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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
Spain tightening border crossing from Gibraltar.
Visa applications and Dee for 90 day travel.
Fair enough.
https://www.cityam.com/brexit-disbelief-and-confusion-at-gibraltar-border-as-spanish-authorities-block-brits-from-entering/ |
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
"Britain should give it back just like the falklands problem solved "
You're right. Simple.
Do the people there have to become Spanish or Argentinian? Do they have to live in another country as immigrants? Do they have to leave their homes and come to the UK? |
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over a year ago
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"Britain should give it back just like the falklands problem solved "
Give the falklands back to who? Spain? They were never Argentinian. Argentina only went for them because they were on the brink of internal collapse and the best way they thought to unite the crumbling country was to project outwards and try invade. Also, what about those on the Falkland Islands and Gibraltar, it should be their say |
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"Britain should give it back just like the falklands problem solved
Give the falklands back to who? Spain? They were never Argentinian. Argentina only went for them because they were on the brink of internal collapse and the best way they thought to unite the crumbling country was to project outwards and try invade. Also, what about those on the Falkland Islands and Gibraltar, it should be their say"
I think they did have a vote a few years ago for people in the Falkland Islands, and the vast majority wanted to remain in Britain |
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"Britain should give it back just like the falklands problem solved solves NI too..."
The problem with NI is firstly it’s both Catholic and Protestant and reunification would put the Protestant population in jeopardy and secondly, a lot of British defence and ship building is made in NI. Even if the Protestant population was guaranteed safety, Ireland would have to compensate Britain in many, many, many £Billions to remove the defence and ship building industries. |
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"Britain should give it back just like the falklands problem solved solves NI too...
The problem with NI is firstly it’s both Catholic and Protestant and reunification would put the Protestant population in jeopardy and secondly, a lot of British defence and ship building is made in NI. Even if the Protestant population was guaranteed safety, Ireland would have to compensate Britain in many, many, many £Billions to remove the defence and ship building industries. "
Guaranteed safety from who exactly....do you honestly think all the ‘protestants’ are going to be lined up and shot, or turfed out of the country ?
Ireland would have to ‘compensate’ Britain... FFS Britain would be only too glad to be rid of the place, it must cost them billions just to keep the place up and running....
Ship building industry ???
I think that ‘ship’ has long since sailed...
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"Britain should give it back just like the falklands problem solved solves NI too...
The problem with NI is firstly it’s both Catholic and Protestant and reunification would put the Protestant population in jeopardy and secondly, a lot of British defence and ship building is made in NI. Even if the Protestant population was guaranteed safety, Ireland would have to compensate Britain in many, many, many £Billions to remove the defence and ship building industries.
Guaranteed safety from who exactly....do you honestly think all the ‘protestants’ are going to be lined up and shot, or turfed out of the country ?
Ireland would have to ‘compensate’ Britain... FFS Britain would be only too glad to be rid of the place, it must cost them billions just to keep the place up and running....
Ship building industry ???
I think that ‘ship’ has long since sailed...
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Yes the ship building industry - Harland & Woolf - it’s STILL huge and provides thousands of jobs in Belfast!!!
https://www.harland-wolff.com/
Don’t forget the defence industry is also located there too
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/belfast-made-bazookas-pave-the-way-for-defence-sectors-revival-lh62p227c |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Britain should give it back just like the falklands problem solved
Give the falklands back to who? Spain? They were never Argentinian. Argentina only went for them because they were on the brink of internal collapse and the best way they thought to unite the crumbling country was to project outwards and try invade. Also, what about those on the Falkland Islands and Gibraltar, it should be their say
I think they did have a vote a few years ago for people in the Falkland Islands, and the vast majority wanted to remain in Britain"
Massive winning margin too |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
kildare |
"Britain should give it back just like the falklands problem solved solves NI too...
The problem with NI is firstly it’s both Catholic and Protestant and reunification would put the Protestant population in jeopardy and secondly, a lot of British defence and ship building is made in NI. Even if the Protestant population was guaranteed safety, Ireland would have to compensate Britain in many, many, many £Billions to remove the defence and ship building industries. "
What are you talking about ffs
The protestant would be in jeopardy from who exactly and for what reasons?
I await your no doubt very knowledgeable answer |
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"Britain should give it back just like the falklands problem solved "
We cant "give the Falklands back" as they were never Argentinian to start with. Discovered and abandoned by Spain. Later occupied by the French and then "sold" by them to UK.
ALL of this before Argentina as a country even existed! Check your history? |
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"Britain should give it back just like the falklands problem solved solves NI too...
The problem with NI is firstly it’s both Catholic and Protestant and reunification would put the Protestant population in jeopardy and secondly, a lot of British defence and ship building is made in NI. Even if the Protestant population was guaranteed safety, Ireland would have to compensate Britain in many, many, many £Billions to remove the defence and ship building industries.
What are you talking about ffs
The protestant would be in jeopardy from who exactly and for what reasons?
I await your no doubt very knowledgeable answer "
Sectarian violence, sadly. |
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
"Britain should give it back just like the falklands problem solved
Give the falklands back to who? Spain? They were never Argentinian. Argentina only went for them because they were on the brink of internal collapse and the best way they thought to unite the crumbling country was to project outwards and try invade. Also, what about those on the Falkland Islands and Gibraltar, it should be their say
I think they did have a vote a few years ago for people in the Falkland Islands, and the vast majority wanted to remain in Britain"
It's good that Spain are strictly enforcing it's border regulations though, and that there will be stricter EU measures in place though, right? |
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"Britain should give it back just like the falklands problem solved solves NI too...
The problem with NI is firstly it’s both Catholic and Protestant and reunification would put the Protestant population in jeopardy and secondly, a lot of British defence and ship building is made in NI. Even if the Protestant population was guaranteed safety, Ireland would have to compensate Britain in many, many, many £Billions to remove the defence and ship building industries.
Guaranteed safety from who exactly....do you honestly think all the ‘protestants’ are going to be lined up and shot, or turfed out of the country ?
Ireland would have to ‘compensate’ Britain... FFS Britain would be only too glad to be rid of the place, it must cost them billions just to keep the place up and running....
Ship building industry ???
I think that ‘ship’ has long since sailed...
Yes the ship building industry - Harland & Woolf - it’s STILL huge and provides thousands of jobs in Belfast!!!
https://www.harland-wolff.com/
Don’t forget the defence industry is also located there too
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/belfast-made-bazookas-pave-the-way-for-defence-sectors-revival-lh62p227c"
Thousands of jobs ? Hundreds more likely. And anyway... what does it matter, if Boris’ trip to India is fruitful, soon you’ll have thousands of Indians working in the UK... so much for ‘taking back control’ |
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
"Are the Spanish going to give back their colony on the other side of the straits as part off the deal?
There are actually two Spanish enclaves on the Moroccan side. Ceuta and Melilla"
What "deal" is being discussed?
It's good that Spain are strictly enforcing it's border regulations though, and that there will be stricter EU measures in place though, right? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Are the Spanish going to give back their colony on the other side of the straits as part off the deal?
There are actually two Spanish enclaves on the Moroccan side. Ceuta and Melilla
What "deal" is being discussed?
It's good that Spain are strictly enforcing it's border regulations though, and that there will be stricter EU measures in place though, right?"
Exactly - countries should be respecting agreements and Spain is only following the agreement that became necessary when the UK left the EU.
I am sure that everyone is behind the Spanish exercising their Sovereign right... |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
kildare |
"Britain should give it back just like the falklands problem solved solves NI too...
The problem with NI is firstly it’s both Catholic and Protestant and reunification would put the Protestant population in jeopardy and secondly, a lot of British defence and ship building is made in NI. Even if the Protestant population was guaranteed safety, Ireland would have to compensate Britain in many, many, many £Billions to remove the defence and ship building industries.
What are you talking about ffs
The protestant would be in jeopardy from who exactly and for what reasons?
I await your no doubt very knowledgeable answer
Sectarian violence, sadly. "
You said reunification would put the Protestant community in jeopardy,like they were going to be victims of genocide.
This is just wrong.
The only violence reunification will bring will be from loyalist and their paramilitaries.
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
kildare |
"Here’s a latest article on the matter
https://unherd.com/2022/04/northern-irelands-bloody-future/"
This article is just about the current state of affairs in NI and does nothing to back up your claim,in fact it says its their own communities both loyalist and republicans do be targeting and just for criminal enterprise like extortion and drug dealing |
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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago
milton keynes |
"All while Portugal are waving the Brits in with open arms for holidays they know how to earn some money  "
Fast tracking them through same as if they were members as I understand it. I assume to attract more holiday makers. I suppose neighbouring countries could loose out a bit if it continues |
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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago
Bristol |
"All while Portugal are waving the Brits in with open arms for holidays they know how to earn some money
Fast tracking them through same as if they were members as I understand it. I assume to attract more holiday makers. I suppose neighbouring countries could loose out a bit if it continues"
They are not following the EU ideology of hold up the Brit’s to teach them a lesson for questioning the superiority of the super state and chose to make some money instead   |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
kildare |
"All while Portugal are waving the Brits in with open arms for holidays they know how to earn some money
Fast tracking them through same as if they were members as I understand it. I assume to attract more holiday makers. I suppose neighbouring countries could loose out a bit if it continues
They are not following the EU ideology of hold up the Brit’s to teach them a lesson for questioning the superiority of the super state and chose to make some money instead "
No,the EU ideology on this issue is free travel for all eu members within the eu.
That's what it has always been,long before brexit. |
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"All while Portugal are waving the Brits in with open arms for holidays they know how to earn some money
Fast tracking them through same as if they were members as I understand it. I assume to attract more holiday makers. I suppose neighbouring countries could loose out a bit if it continues
They are not following the EU ideology of hold up the Brit’s to teach them a lesson for questioning the superiority of the super state and chose to make some money instead
No,the EU ideology on this issue is free travel for all eu members within the eu.
That's what it has always been,long before brexit."
But there’s nothing to stop France , Spain, Portugal & others giving Brits free 12 month visas on arrival. We would reciprocate of course. |
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
"All while Portugal are waving the Brits in with open arms for holidays they know how to earn some money
Fast tracking them through same as if they were members as I understand it. I assume to attract more holiday makers. I suppose neighbouring countries could loose out a bit if it continues"
They aren't doing that anyway:
https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/portugal-passport-eu-brexit-travel-b2063937.html |
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
"All while Portugal are waving the Brits in with open arms for holidays they know how to earn some money
Fast tracking them through same as if they were members as I understand it. I assume to attract more holiday makers. I suppose neighbouring countries could loose out a bit if it continues
They are not following the EU ideology of hold up the Brit’s to teach them a lesson for questioning the superiority of the super state and chose to make some money instead "
No, they are applying the rules that they apply to everyone else.
Why would we expect anything else?
Good that they're applying tight border controls though, right? |
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
"All while Portugal are waving the Brits in with open arms for holidays they know how to earn some money
Fast tracking them through same as if they were members as I understand it. I assume to attract more holiday makers. I suppose neighbouring countries could loose out a bit if it continues
They are not following the EU ideology of hold up the Brit’s to teach them a lesson for questioning the superiority of the super state and chose to make some money instead
No,the EU ideology on this issue is free travel for all eu members within the eu.
That's what it has always been,long before brexit.
But there’s nothing to stop France , Spain, Portugal & others giving Brits free 12 month visas on arrival. We would reciprocate of course. "
Yes, there are the agreed travel regulations that they apply to all non-EU member states.
We probably could negotiate something else, but we didn't.
We will have to apply for a 90 day visa in the future as for travel to the US.
That's what border control looks like. We're all for that, right? |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
kildare |
"All while Portugal are waving the Brits in with open arms for holidays they know how to earn some money
Fast tracking them through same as if they were members as I understand it. I assume to attract more holiday makers. I suppose neighbouring countries could loose out a bit if it continues
They are not following the EU ideology of hold up the Brit’s to teach them a lesson for questioning the superiority of the super state and chose to make some money instead
No,the EU ideology on this issue is free travel for all eu members within the eu.
That's what it has always been,long before brexit.
But there’s nothing to stop France , Spain, Portugal & others giving Brits free 12 month visas on arrival. We would reciprocate of course. "
There is plenty of reasons to not have free travel with UK now.
That would have to include all these extra Indians that boris has just done a deal for,and that's just for a start
Who else will this clown do deals with and have to let into uk/eu?
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"All while Portugal are waving the Brits in with open arms for holidays they know how to earn some money
Fast tracking them through same as if they were members as I understand it. I assume to attract more holiday makers. I suppose neighbouring countries could loose out a bit if it continues
They are not following the EU ideology of hold up the Brit’s to teach them a lesson for questioning the superiority of the super state and chose to make some money instead
No,the EU ideology on this issue is free travel for all eu members within the eu.
That's what it has always been,long before brexit.
But there’s nothing to stop France , Spain, Portugal & others giving Brits free 12 month visas on arrival. We would reciprocate of course.
There is plenty of reasons to not have free travel with UK now.
That would have to include all these extra Indians that boris has just done a deal for,and that's just for a start
Who else will this clown do deals with and have to let into uk/eu?
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He’s not giving them British passports is he? |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
kildare |
"All while Portugal are waving the Brits in with open arms for holidays they know how to earn some money
Fast tracking them through same as if they were members as I understand it. I assume to attract more holiday makers. I suppose neighbouring countries could loose out a bit if it continues
They are not following the EU ideology of hold up the Brit’s to teach them a lesson for questioning the superiority of the super state and chose to make some money instead
No,the EU ideology on this issue is free travel for all eu members within the eu.
That's what it has always been,long before brexit.
But there’s nothing to stop France , Spain, Portugal & others giving Brits free 12 month visas on arrival. We would reciprocate of course.
There is plenty of reasons to not have free travel with UK now.
That would have to include all these extra Indians that boris has just done a deal for,and that's just for a start
Who else will this clown do deals with and have to let into uk/eu?
He’s not giving them British passports is he? "
I have no idea in that case but what's stopping him,or from giving others uk passports?
We have unified rules for a reason.
If you step outside those rules,you step outside the benefits of having those rules.
You can't have it both ways.
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"All while Portugal are waving the Brits in with open arms for holidays they know how to earn some money
Fast tracking them through same as if they were members as I understand it. I assume to attract more holiday makers. I suppose neighbouring countries could loose out a bit if it continues
They are not following the EU ideology of hold up the Brit’s to teach them a lesson for questioning the superiority of the super state and chose to make some money instead
No,the EU ideology on this issue is free travel for all eu members within the eu.
That's what it has always been,long before brexit.
But there’s nothing to stop France , Spain, Portugal & others giving Brits free 12 month visas on arrival. We would reciprocate of course.
There is plenty of reasons to not have free travel with UK now.
That would have to include all these extra Indians that boris has just done a deal for,and that's just for a start
Who else will this clown do deals with and have to let into uk/eu?
He’s not giving them British passports is he?
I have no idea in that case but what's stopping him,or from giving others uk passports?
We have unified rules for a reason.
If you step outside those rules,you step outside the benefits of having those rules.
You can't have it both ways.
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Can’t have what both ways? |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
kildare |
"All while Portugal are waving the Brits in with open arms for holidays they know how to earn some money
Fast tracking them through same as if they were members as I understand it. I assume to attract more holiday makers. I suppose neighbouring countries could loose out a bit if it continues
They are not following the EU ideology of hold up the Brit’s to teach them a lesson for questioning the superiority of the super state and chose to make some money instead
No,the EU ideology on this issue is free travel for all eu members within the eu.
That's what it has always been,long before brexit.
But there’s nothing to stop France , Spain, Portugal & others giving Brits free 12 month visas on arrival. We would reciprocate of course.
There is plenty of reasons to not have free travel with UK now.
That would have to include all these extra Indians that boris has just done a deal for,and that's just for a start
Who else will this clown do deals with and have to let into uk/eu?
He’s not giving them British passports is he?
I have no idea in that case but what's stopping him,or from giving others uk passports?
We have unified rules for a reason.
If you step outside those rules,you step outside the benefits of having those rules.
You can't have it both ways.
Can’t have what both ways? "
Free travel within eu,or the sunny parts,but a different set of rules regarding your borders |
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"All while Portugal are waving the Brits in with open arms for holidays they know how to earn some money
Fast tracking them through same as if they were members as I understand it. I assume to attract more holiday makers. I suppose neighbouring countries could loose out a bit if it continues
They are not following the EU ideology of hold up the Brit’s to teach them a lesson for questioning the superiority of the super state and chose to make some money instead
No,the EU ideology on this issue is free travel for all eu members within the eu.
That's what it has always been,long before brexit.
But there’s nothing to stop France , Spain, Portugal & others giving Brits free 12 month visas on arrival. We would reciprocate of course.
There is plenty of reasons to not have free travel with UK now.
That would have to include all these extra Indians that boris has just done a deal for,and that's just for a start
Who else will this clown do deals with and have to let into uk/eu?
He’s not giving them British passports is he?
I have no idea in that case but what's stopping him,or from giving others uk passports?
We have unified rules for a reason.
If you step outside those rules,you step outside the benefits of having those rules.
You can't have it both ways.
Can’t have what both ways?
Free travel within eu,or the sunny parts,but a different set of rules regarding your borders"
I’m not asking for that. It would be reciprocal. Making life easier for European citizens. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Britain should give it back just like the falklands problem solved
We cant "give the Falklands back" as they were never Argentinian to start with. Discovered and abandoned by Spain. Later occupied by the French and then "sold" by them to UK.
ALL of this before Argentina as a country even existed! Check your history?"
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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago
milton keynes |
"All while Portugal are waving the Brits in with open arms for holidays they know how to earn some money
Fast tracking them through same as if they were members as I understand it. I assume to attract more holiday makers. I suppose neighbouring countries could loose out a bit if it continues
They are not following the EU ideology of hold up the Brit’s to teach them a lesson for questioning the superiority of the super state and chose to make some money instead "
well after covid I expect they are looking forward to a bumper summer. With the cost of living problems there could be less customers to go around. Makes sense for them to get an advantage over rivals |
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
"All while Portugal are waving the Brits in with open arms for holidays they know how to earn some money
Fast tracking them through same as if they were members as I understand it. I assume to attract more holiday makers. I suppose neighbouring countries could loose out a bit if it continues
They are not following the EU ideology of hold up the Brit’s to teach them a lesson for questioning the superiority of the super state and chose to make some money instead
well after covid I expect they are looking forward to a bumper summer. With the cost of living problems there could be less customers to go around. Makes sense for them to get an advantage over rivals"
You'll be disappointed if you think Portugal are applying different rules then:
https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/portugal-passport-eu-brexit-travel-b2063937.html |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
"All while Portugal are waving the Brits in with open arms for holidays they know how to earn some money
Or treat people humanely?
Getting your passport checked is inhumane?
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Have you seen the queues? lol |
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By *I TwoCouple
over a year ago
PDI 12-26th Nov 24 |
"Britain should give it back just like the falklands problem solved solves NI too...
The problem with NI is firstly it’s both Catholic and Protestant and reunification would put the Protestant population in jeopardy and secondly, a lot of British defence and ship building is made in NI. Even if the Protestant population was guaranteed safety, Ireland would have to compensate Britain in many, many, many £Billions to remove the defence and ship building industries. "
Ah another expert on Northern Ireland lol |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
kildare |
"Britain should give it back just like the falklands problem solved solves NI too...
The problem with NI is firstly it’s both Catholic and Protestant and reunification would put the Protestant population in jeopardy and secondly, a lot of British defence and ship building is made in NI. Even if the Protestant population was guaranteed safety, Ireland would have to compensate Britain in many, many, many £Billions to remove the defence and ship building industries.
Ah another expert on Northern Ireland lol"
It is the very attitude and false narrative that led to catholics being persecuted and denied their basic human and civil rights that started the troubles in the first place
Same old same old |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
kildare |
"All while Portugal are waving the Brits in with open arms for holidays they know how to earn some money
Or treat people humanely?
Getting your passport checked is inhumane?
Have you seen the queues? lol "
A 1 way ticket to Rwanda is inhumane.
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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago
Bristol |
"All while Portugal are waving the Brits in with open arms for holidays they know how to earn some money
Or treat people humanely?
Getting your passport checked is inhumane?
Have you seen the queues? lol
A 1 way ticket to Rwanda is inhumane.
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But if successful in the allocation for refugee status you get to come to the uk
If not you get the chance to settle in Rwanda and build a life there
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"All while Portugal are waving the Brits in with open arms for holidays they know how to earn some money
Or treat people humanely?
Getting your passport checked is inhumane?
Have you seen the queues? lol
A 1 way ticket to Rwanda is inhumane.
But if successful in the allocation for refugee status you get to come to the uk
If not you get the chance to settle in Rwanda and build a life there
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Yes, this is an excellent distraction and waste of British tax payers money.
Do Rwanda get a say in who stays there? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"All while Portugal are waving the Brits in with open arms for holidays they know how to earn some money
Or treat people humanely?
Getting your passport checked is inhumane?
Have you seen the queues? lol
A 1 way ticket to Rwanda is inhumane.
But if successful in the allocation for refugee status you get to come to the uk
If not you get the chance to settle in Rwanda and build a life there
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that isnt clear fron the home office press statement!
"Those whose claims are accepted will then be supported to build a new and prosperous life in one of the fastest-growing economies, recognised globally for its record on welcoming and integrating migrants."
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over a year ago
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"All while Portugal are waving the Brits in with open arms for holidays they know how to earn some money
Or treat people humanely?
Getting your passport checked is inhumane?
Have you seen the queues? lol
A 1 way ticket to Rwanda is inhumane.
But if successful in the allocation for refugee status you get to come to the uk
If not you get the chance to settle in Rwanda and build a life there
that isnt clear fron the home office press statement!
"Those whose claims are accepted will then be supported to build a new and prosperous life in one of the fastest-growing economies, recognised globally for its record on welcoming and integrating migrants."
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Exactly , It is a ‘one way ‘ ticket , |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
kildare |
"All while Portugal are waving the Brits in with open arms for holidays they know how to earn some money
Or treat people humanely?
Getting your passport checked is inhumane?
Have you seen the queues? lol
A 1 way ticket to Rwanda is inhumane.
But if successful in the allocation for refugee status you get to come to the uk
If not you get the chance to settle in Rwanda and build a life there
that isnt clear fron the home office press statement!
"Those whose claims are accepted will then be supported to build a new and prosperous life in one of the fastest-growing economies, recognised globally for its record on welcoming and integrating migrants."
Exactly , It is a ‘one way ‘ ticket , "
They used to give Africans a 1 way ticket to the new world
The exploitation continues today |
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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago
Bristol |
"All while Portugal are waving the Brits in with open arms for holidays they know how to earn some money
Or treat people humanely?
Getting your passport checked is inhumane?
Have you seen the queues? lol
A 1 way ticket to Rwanda is inhumane.
But if successful in the allocation for refugee status you get to come to the uk
If not you get the chance to settle in Rwanda and build a life there
that isnt clear fron the home office press statement!
"Those whose claims are accepted will then be supported to build a new and prosperous life in one of the fastest-growing economies, recognised globally for its record on welcoming and integrating migrants."
Exactly , It is a ‘one way ‘ ticket ,
They used to give Africans a 1 way ticket to the new world
The exploitation continues today"
Yes the exploitation of illegal migrates coming to the uk by illegal ways |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"All while Portugal are waving the Brits in with open arms for holidays they know how to earn some money
Or treat people humanely?
Getting your passport checked is inhumane?
Have you seen the queues? lol
A 1 way ticket to Rwanda is inhumane.
But if successful in the allocation for refugee status you get to come to the uk
If not you get the chance to settle in Rwanda and build a life there
that isnt clear fron the home office press statement!
"Those whose claims are accepted will then be supported to build a new and prosperous life in one of the fastest-growing economies, recognised globally for its record on welcoming and integrating migrants."
Exactly , It is a ‘one way ‘ ticket ,
They used to give Africans a 1 way ticket to the new world
The exploitation continues today
Yes the exploitation of illegal migrates coming to the uk by illegal ways "
does Rwanda prevent this tho? Especially if it isn't actually a one way ticket ? It's a confusing story. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"All while Portugal are waving the Brits in with open arms for holidays they know how to earn some money
Or treat people humanely?
Getting your passport checked is inhumane?
Have you seen the queues? lol
A 1 way ticket to Rwanda is inhumane.
But if successful in the allocation for refugee status you get to come to the uk
If not you get the chance to settle in Rwanda and build a life there
that isnt clear fron the home office press statement!
"Those whose claims are accepted will then be supported to build a new and prosperous life in one of the fastest-growing economies, recognised globally for its record on welcoming and integrating migrants."
Exactly , It is a ‘one way ‘ ticket ,
They used to give Africans a 1 way ticket to the new world
The exploitation continues today
Yes the exploitation of illegal migrates coming to the uk by illegal ways "
Is there any other way to get to the UK except illegally for these people and interestingly enough, how do you know that these migrants are illegal?
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"All while Portugal are waving the Brits in with open arms for holidays they know how to earn some money
Or treat people humanely?
Getting your passport checked is inhumane?
Have you seen the queues? lol
A 1 way ticket to Rwanda is inhumane.
But if successful in the allocation for refugee status you get to come to the uk
If not you get the chance to settle in Rwanda and build a life there
that isnt clear fron the home office press statement!
"Those whose claims are accepted will then be supported to build a new and prosperous life in one of the fastest-growing economies, recognised globally for its record on welcoming and integrating migrants."
Exactly , It is a ‘one way ‘ ticket ,
They used to give Africans a 1 way ticket to the new world
The exploitation continues today
Yes the exploitation of illegal migrates coming to the uk by illegal ways
Is there any other way to get to the UK except illegally for these people and interestingly enough, how do you know that these migrants are illegal?
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"All while Portugal are waving the Brits in with open arms for holidays they know how to earn some money
Or treat people humanely?
Getting your passport checked is inhumane?
Have you seen the queues? lol
A 1 way ticket to Rwanda is inhumane.
But if successful in the allocation for refugee status you get to come to the uk
If not you get the chance to settle in Rwanda and build a life there
that isnt clear fron the home office press statement!
"Those whose claims are accepted will then be supported to build a new and prosperous life in one of the fastest-growing economies, recognised globally for its record on welcoming and integrating migrants."
Exactly , It is a ‘one way ‘ ticket ,
They used to give Africans a 1 way ticket to the new world
The exploitation continues today
Yes the exploitation of illegal migrates coming to the uk by illegal ways does Rwanda prevent this tho? Especially if it isn't actually a one way ticket ? It's a confusing story. "
It doesn't matter if it makes sense, the only point is to whip up support from the right wing of the party and to distract from Johnson and his pals partying and laughing while British people died alone in hospitals.
By and large, it's working. |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
kildare |
"All while Portugal are waving the Brits in with open arms for holidays they know how to earn some money
Or treat people humanely?
Getting your passport checked is inhumane?
Have you seen the queues? lol
A 1 way ticket to Rwanda is inhumane.
But if successful in the allocation for refugee status you get to come to the uk
If not you get the chance to settle in Rwanda and build a life there
that isnt clear fron the home office press statement!
"Those whose claims are accepted will then be supported to build a new and prosperous life in one of the fastest-growing economies, recognised globally for its record on welcoming and integrating migrants."
Exactly , It is a ‘one way ‘ ticket ,
They used to give Africans a 1 way ticket to the new world
The exploitation continues today
Yes the exploitation of illegal migrates coming to the uk by illegal ways "
No the exploitation of African countries.
How much of a say does Rwanda have in this,when you take into account uks foreign aid to them |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"All while Portugal are waving the Brits in with open arms for holidays they know how to earn some money
Or treat people humanely?
Getting your passport checked is inhumane?
Have you seen the queues? lol
A 1 way ticket to Rwanda is inhumane.
But if successful in the allocation for refugee status you get to come to the uk
If not you get the chance to settle in Rwanda and build a life there
that isnt clear fron the home office press statement!
"Those whose claims are accepted will then be supported to build a new and prosperous life in one of the fastest-growing economies, recognised globally for its record on welcoming and integrating migrants."
Exactly , It is a ‘one way ‘ ticket ,
They used to give Africans a 1 way ticket to the new world
The exploitation continues today
Yes the exploitation of illegal migrates coming to the uk by illegal ways "
They only become ‘illegal’ when they are denied asylum, |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"All while Portugal are waving the Brits in with open arms for holidays they know how to earn some money
Or treat people humanely?
Getting your passport checked is inhumane?
Have you seen the queues? lol
A 1 way ticket to Rwanda is inhumane.
But if successful in the allocation for refugee status you get to come to the uk
If not you get the chance to settle in Rwanda and build a life there
that isnt clear fron the home office press statement!
"Those whose claims are accepted will then be supported to build a new and prosperous life in one of the fastest-growing economies, recognised globally for its record on welcoming and integrating migrants."
Exactly , It is a ‘one way ‘ ticket ,
They used to give Africans a 1 way ticket to the new world
The exploitation continues today
Yes the exploitation of illegal migrates coming to the uk by illegal ways
Is there any other way to get to the UK except illegally for these people and interestingly enough, how do you know that these migrants are illegal?
I guess the purpose of border checks is to establish this? "
Perhaps it would make more sense to have the UK border moved from France to the UK and scrap the Le Touquet agreement.
The UK press (and many on here) continue to complain that France does nothing to stop migrants so why keep it if it is so bad?
Once in the UK, an immigrant can then be properly vetted as to whether they are illegal or not whereas, if they are not physically on UK soil, the UK appears to be able to relinquish any responsibility.
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
"All while Portugal are waving the Brits in with open arms for holidays they know how to earn some money
Or treat people humanely?
Getting your passport checked is inhumane?
Have you seen the queues? lol
A 1 way ticket to Rwanda is inhumane.
But if successful in the allocation for refugee status you get to come to the uk
If not you get the chance to settle in Rwanda and build a life there
that isnt clear fron the home office press statement!
"Those whose claims are accepted will then be supported to build a new and prosperous life in one of the fastest-growing economies, recognised globally for its record on welcoming and integrating migrants."
Exactly , It is a ‘one way ‘ ticket ,
They used to give Africans a 1 way ticket to the new world
The exploitation continues today
Yes the exploitation of illegal migrates coming to the uk by illegal ways "
I posted this in one of the the Rwanda threads,
Some information of what current and expected (but still unknown) policy is and some precedents from The Briefing Room on Radio 4
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0016hfv
The UK has arranged a process where you can only claim asylum in the UK, but there are almost know routes to reaching the UK to do so.
The solution would be to set up application centres in countries near areas of conflict and process there.
If unsuccessful there is no point in traveling as the entire appeals process could be carried out and if you fail then coming to the UK doesn't help.
Far better to give neighboring states the means (with the "hated" foreign aid spending) to build local economies and absorb these people closer to home so that they can return when it is feasible.
Instead an expensive system that is likely to fail but sounds "tough".
Regardless, you do welcome Spain enforcing control of its borders, right? |
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"All while Portugal are waving the Brits in with open arms for holidays they know how to earn some money
Or treat people humanely?
Getting your passport checked is inhumane?
Have you seen the queues? lol
A 1 way ticket to Rwanda is inhumane.
But if successful in the allocation for refugee status you get to come to the uk
If not you get the chance to settle in Rwanda and build a life there
that isnt clear fron the home office press statement!
"Those whose claims are accepted will then be supported to build a new and prosperous life in one of the fastest-growing economies, recognised globally for its record on welcoming and integrating migrants."
Exactly , It is a ‘one way ‘ ticket ,
They used to give Africans a 1 way ticket to the new world
The exploitation continues today
Yes the exploitation of illegal migrates coming to the uk by illegal ways
I posted this in one of the the Rwanda threads,
Some information of what current and expected (but still unknown) policy is and some precedents from The Briefing Room on Radio 4
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0016hfv
The UK has arranged a process where you can only claim asylum in the UK, but there are almost know routes to reaching the UK to do so.
The solution would be to set up application centres in countries near areas of conflict and process there.
If unsuccessful there is no point in traveling as the entire appeals process could be carried out and if you fail then coming to the UK doesn't help.
Far better to give neighboring states the means (with the "hated" foreign aid spending) to build local economies and absorb these people closer to home so that they can return when it is feasible.
Instead an expensive system that is likely to fail but sounds "tough".
Regardless, you do welcome Spain enforcing control of its borders, right?"
I’m not too sure what point you are making? Spain has always controlled its non EU border. |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"All while Portugal are waving the Brits in with open arms for holidays they know how to earn some money
Or treat people humanely?
Getting your passport checked is inhumane?
Have you seen the queues? lol
A 1 way ticket to Rwanda is inhumane.
But if successful in the allocation for refugee status you get to come to the uk
If not you get the chance to settle in Rwanda and build a life there
that isnt clear fron the home office press statement!
"Those whose claims are accepted will then be supported to build a new and prosperous life in one of the fastest-growing economies, recognised globally for its record on welcoming and integrating migrants."
Exactly , It is a ‘one way ‘ ticket ,
They used to give Africans a 1 way ticket to the new world
The exploitation continues today
Yes the exploitation of illegal migrates coming to the uk by illegal ways
I posted this in one of the the Rwanda threads,
Some information of what current and expected (but still unknown) policy is and some precedents from The Briefing Room on Radio 4
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0016hfv
The UK has arranged a process where you can only claim asylum in the UK, but there are almost know routes to reaching the UK to do so.
The solution would be to set up application centres in countries near areas of conflict and process there.
If unsuccessful there is no point in traveling as the entire appeals process could be carried out and if you fail then coming to the UK doesn't help.
Far better to give neighboring states the means (with the "hated" foreign aid spending) to build local economies and absorb these people closer to home so that they can return when it is feasible.
Instead an expensive system that is likely to fail but sounds "tough".
Regardless, you do welcome Spain enforcing control of its borders, right?
I’m not too sure what point you are making? Spain has always controlled its non EU border."
Of course it has
just go to Ceuta and see the bloody great fence round it. |
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
"All while Portugal are waving the Brits in with open arms for holidays they know how to earn some money
Or treat people humanely?
Getting your passport checked is inhumane?
Have you seen the queues? lol
A 1 way ticket to Rwanda is inhumane.
But if successful in the allocation for refugee status you get to come to the uk
If not you get the chance to settle in Rwanda and build a life there
that isnt clear fron the home office press statement!
"Those whose claims are accepted will then be supported to build a new and prosperous life in one of the fastest-growing economies, recognised globally for its record on welcoming and integrating migrants."
Exactly , It is a ‘one way ‘ ticket ,
They used to give Africans a 1 way ticket to the new world
The exploitation continues today
Yes the exploitation of illegal migrates coming to the uk by illegal ways
I posted this in one of the the Rwanda threads,
Some information of what current and expected (but still unknown) policy is and some precedents from The Briefing Room on Radio 4
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0016hfv
The UK has arranged a process where you can only claim asylum in the UK, but there are almost know routes to reaching the UK to do so.
The solution would be to set up application centres in countries near areas of conflict and process there.
If unsuccessful there is no point in traveling as the entire appeals process could be carried out and if you fail then coming to the UK doesn't help.
Far better to give neighboring states the means (with the "hated" foreign aid spending) to build local economies and absorb these people closer to home so that they can return when it is feasible.
Instead an expensive system that is likely to fail but sounds "tough".
Regardless, you do welcome Spain enforcing control of its borders, right?
I’m not too sure what point you are making? Spain has always controlled its non EU border."
The point I'm making is that there appears to have been some shock and surprise about this being done on the border with Gibraltar, but if we want it for the UK then we should be content that Spain does the same. |
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
"All while Portugal are waving the Brits in with open arms for holidays they know how to earn some money
Or treat people humanely?
Getting your passport checked is inhumane?
Have you seen the queues? lol
A 1 way ticket to Rwanda is inhumane.
But if successful in the allocation for refugee status you get to come to the uk
If not you get the chance to settle in Rwanda and build a life there
that isnt clear fron the home office press statement!
"Those whose claims are accepted will then be supported to build a new and prosperous life in one of the fastest-growing economies, recognised globally for its record on welcoming and integrating migrants."
Exactly , It is a ‘one way ‘ ticket ,
They used to give Africans a 1 way ticket to the new world
The exploitation continues today
Yes the exploitation of illegal migrates coming to the uk by illegal ways
I posted this in one of the the Rwanda threads,
Some information of what current and expected (but still unknown) policy is and some precedents from The Briefing Room on Radio 4
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0016hfv
The UK has arranged a process where you can only claim asylum in the UK, but there are almost know routes to reaching the UK to do so.
The solution would be to set up application centres in countries near areas of conflict and process there.
If unsuccessful there is no point in traveling as the entire appeals process could be carried out and if you fail then coming to the UK doesn't help.
Far better to give neighboring states the means (with the "hated" foreign aid spending) to build local economies and absorb these people closer to home so that they can return when it is feasible.
Instead an expensive system that is likely to fail but sounds "tough".
Regardless, you do welcome Spain enforcing control of its borders, right?
I’m not too sure what point you are making? Spain has always controlled its non EU border.Of course it has
just go to Ceuta and see the bloody great fence round it. "
That's how they have to control their border.
I'm assuming that you support that. |
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"All while Portugal are waving the Brits in with open arms for holidays they know how to earn some money
Or treat people humanely?
Getting your passport checked is inhumane?
Have you seen the queues? lol
A 1 way ticket to Rwanda is inhumane.
But if successful in the allocation for refugee status you get to come to the uk
If not you get the chance to settle in Rwanda and build a life there
that isnt clear fron the home office press statement!
"Those whose claims are accepted will then be supported to build a new and prosperous life in one of the fastest-growing economies, recognised globally for its record on welcoming and integrating migrants."
Exactly , It is a ‘one way ‘ ticket ,
They used to give Africans a 1 way ticket to the new world
The exploitation continues today
Yes the exploitation of illegal migrates coming to the uk by illegal ways
I posted this in one of the the Rwanda threads,
Some information of what current and expected (but still unknown) policy is and some precedents from The Briefing Room on Radio 4
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0016hfv
The UK has arranged a process where you can only claim asylum in the UK, but there are almost know routes to reaching the UK to do so.
The solution would be to set up application centres in countries near areas of conflict and process there.
If unsuccessful there is no point in traveling as the entire appeals process could be carried out and if you fail then coming to the UK doesn't help.
Far better to give neighboring states the means (with the "hated" foreign aid spending) to build local economies and absorb these people closer to home so that they can return when it is feasible.
Instead an expensive system that is likely to fail but sounds "tough".
Regardless, you do welcome Spain enforcing control of its borders, right?
I’m not too sure what point you are making? Spain has always controlled its non EU border.
The point I'm making is that there appears to have been some shock and surprise about this being done on the border with Gibraltar, but if we want it for the UK then we should be content that Spain does the same."
I guess it depends why they are doing it and what they hope to achieve? Until I read your original post I had no idea things had changed. I suppose it’s an issue for those that use the border on a regular basis. Probably just another example of the powers that be not giving a fuck about ordinary people just trying to get by and make a living. |
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
"All while Portugal are waving the Brits in with open arms for holidays they know how to earn some money
Or treat people humanely?
Getting your passport checked is inhumane?
Have you seen the queues? lol
A 1 way ticket to Rwanda is inhumane.
But if successful in the allocation for refugee status you get to come to the uk
If not you get the chance to settle in Rwanda and build a life there
that isnt clear fron the home office press statement!
"Those whose claims are accepted will then be supported to build a new and prosperous life in one of the fastest-growing economies, recognised globally for its record on welcoming and integrating migrants."
Exactly , It is a ‘one way ‘ ticket ,
They used to give Africans a 1 way ticket to the new world
The exploitation continues today
Yes the exploitation of illegal migrates coming to the uk by illegal ways
I posted this in one of the the Rwanda threads,
Some information of what current and expected (but still unknown) policy is and some precedents from The Briefing Room on Radio 4
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0016hfv
The UK has arranged a process where you can only claim asylum in the UK, but there are almost know routes to reaching the UK to do so.
The solution would be to set up application centres in countries near areas of conflict and process there.
If unsuccessful there is no point in traveling as the entire appeals process could be carried out and if you fail then coming to the UK doesn't help.
Far better to give neighboring states the means (with the "hated" foreign aid spending) to build local economies and absorb these people closer to home so that they can return when it is feasible.
Instead an expensive system that is likely to fail but sounds "tough".
Regardless, you do welcome Spain enforcing control of its borders, right?
I’m not too sure what point you are making? Spain has always controlled its non EU border.
The point I'm making is that there appears to have been some shock and surprise about this being done on the border with Gibraltar, but if we want it for the UK then we should be content that Spain does the same.
I guess it depends why they are doing it and what they hope to achieve? Until I read your original post I had no idea things had changed. I suppose it’s an issue for those that use the border on a regular basis. Probably just another example of the powers that be not giving a fuck about ordinary people just trying to get by and make a living. "
It's the powers that be applying the terms of a deal that we agreed to.
It could be considered a negative from creating artificial divisions or celebrated as a state enforcing its sovereignty... |
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By *amish SMan
over a year ago
Eastleigh |
What is surprising is that some seem to forget that the Gib border was actually shut for a long period whilst we were in the EU. No matter whose border and where they should be correctly controlled, surely that makes sense. |
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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago
milton keynes |
"Looks like Portugal are going to fast-track UK passports through immigration controls.
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lots of outlets say it's happening though one paper says it's not so not sure who is right. Hopefully be made clear especially for anyone looking to go to Portugal. If true and it works for them then hats off to them |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"Looks like Portugal are going to fast-track UK passports through immigration controls.
lots of outlets say it's happening though one paper says it's not so not sure who is right. Hopefully be made clear especially for anyone looking to go to Portugal. If true and it works for them then hats off to them"
SchengenVisaInfo reports that UK travellers are now able to use Electronic Gates at all Portugese Airports, and are not treated as third country visitors.
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
"Looks like Portugal are going to fast-track UK passports through immigration controls.
lots of outlets say it's happening though one paper says it's not so not sure who is right. Hopefully be made clear especially for anyone looking to go to Portugal. If true and it works for them then hats off to them
SchengenVisaInfo reports that UK travellers are now able to use Electronic Gates at all Portugese Airports, and are not treated as third country visitors.
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My understanding is that there will be some e-gates available (for adults as everywhere) but manual stamping is still necessary.
A little bit of an Portuguese advertising campaign perhaps? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Britain should give it back just like the falklands problem solved solves NI too...
The problem with NI is firstly it’s both Catholic and Protestant and reunification would put the Protestant population in jeopardy and secondly, a lot of British defence and ship building is made in NI. Even if the Protestant population was guaranteed safety, Ireland would have to compensate Britain in many, many, many £Billions to remove the defence and ship building industries.
What are you talking about ffs
The protestant would be in jeopardy from who exactly and for what reasons?
I await your no doubt very knowledgeable answer
Sectarian violence, sadly. "
So where there is violence in occupied lands should the solution worldwide be to give it back? |
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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago
milton keynes |
"Looks like Portugal are going to fast-track UK passports through immigration controls.
lots of outlets say it's happening though one paper says it's not so not sure who is right. Hopefully be made clear especially for anyone looking to go to Portugal. If true and it works for them then hats off to them
SchengenVisaInfo reports that UK travellers are now able to use Electronic Gates at all Portugese Airports, and are not treated as third country visitors.
"
I have seen it on several outlets from both here and abroad and they say that the situation has changed and British visitors are now treated the same as EU visitor's. The independent says this can't be the case as they need to stamp passports so they know how long you are in the country. The daily mirror says Portugal is the first country to abandon manual checks' This would suggest no physical stamping of passports though maybe they have it wrong. I would have thought the e gates that EU and now British visitors use would be able to record when you enter . Maybe they are not capable of that. It does seem to be a conflict of understanding between the independent and all the other reports. |
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
"Looks like Portugal are going to fast-track UK passports through immigration controls.
lots of outlets say it's happening though one paper says it's not so not sure who is right. Hopefully be made clear especially for anyone looking to go to Portugal. If true and it works for them then hats off to them
SchengenVisaInfo reports that UK travellers are now able to use Electronic Gates at all Portugese Airports, and are not treated as third country visitors.
I have seen it on several outlets from both here and abroad and they say that the situation has changed and British visitors are now treated the same as EU visitor's. The independent says this can't be the case as they need to stamp passports so they know how long you are in the country. The daily mirror says Portugal is the first country to abandon manual checks' This would suggest no physical stamping of passports though maybe they have it wrong. I would have thought the e gates that EU and now British visitors use would be able to record when you enter . Maybe they are not capable of that. It does seem to be a conflict of understanding between the independent and all the other reports. "
I guess we will find out in due course.
It doesn't change Spain's decision to control its borders being a good thing too though. |
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"Looks like Portugal are going to fast-track UK passports through immigration controls.
lots of outlets say it's happening though one paper says it's not so not sure who is right. Hopefully be made clear especially for anyone looking to go to Portugal. If true and it works for them then hats off to them
SchengenVisaInfo reports that UK travellers are now able to use Electronic Gates at all Portugese Airports, and are not treated as third country visitors.
I have seen it on several outlets from both here and abroad and they say that the situation has changed and British visitors are now treated the same as EU visitor's. The independent says this can't be the case as they need to stamp passports so they know how long you are in the country. The daily mirror says Portugal is the first country to abandon manual checks' This would suggest no physical stamping of passports though maybe they have it wrong. I would have thought the e gates that EU and now British visitors use would be able to record when you enter . Maybe they are not capable of that. It does seem to be a conflict of understanding between the independent and all the other reports.
I guess we will find out in due course.
It doesn't change Spain's decision to control its borders being a good thing too though."
What country doesn’t control it’s own borders? |
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
"Looks like Portugal are going to fast-track UK passports through immigration controls.
lots of outlets say it's happening though one paper says it's not so not sure who is right. Hopefully be made clear especially for anyone looking to go to Portugal. If true and it works for them then hats off to them
SchengenVisaInfo reports that UK travellers are now able to use Electronic Gates at all Portugese Airports, and are not treated as third country visitors.
I have seen it on several outlets from both here and abroad and they say that the situation has changed and British visitors are now treated the same as EU visitor's. The independent says this can't be the case as they need to stamp passports so they know how long you are in the country. The daily mirror says Portugal is the first country to abandon manual checks' This would suggest no physical stamping of passports though maybe they have it wrong. I would have thought the e gates that EU and now British visitors use would be able to record when you enter . Maybe they are not capable of that. It does seem to be a conflict of understanding between the independent and all the other reports.
I guess we will find out in due course.
It doesn't change Spain's decision to control its borders being a good thing too though.
What country doesn’t control it’s own borders? "
Apparently, we didn't... |
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"Looks like Portugal are going to fast-track UK passports through immigration controls.
lots of outlets say it's happening though one paper says it's not so not sure who is right. Hopefully be made clear especially for anyone looking to go to Portugal. If true and it works for them then hats off to them
SchengenVisaInfo reports that UK travellers are now able to use Electronic Gates at all Portugese Airports, and are not treated as third country visitors.
I have seen it on several outlets from both here and abroad and they say that the situation has changed and British visitors are now treated the same as EU visitor's. The independent says this can't be the case as they need to stamp passports so they know how long you are in the country. The daily mirror says Portugal is the first country to abandon manual checks' This would suggest no physical stamping of passports though maybe they have it wrong. I would have thought the e gates that EU and now British visitors use would be able to record when you enter . Maybe they are not capable of that. It does seem to be a conflict of understanding between the independent and all the other reports.
I guess we will find out in due course.
It doesn't change Spain's decision to control its borders being a good thing too though.
What country doesn’t control it’s own borders?
Apparently, we didn't..."
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
"Looks like Portugal are going to fast-track UK passports through immigration controls.
lots of outlets say it's happening though one paper says it's not so not sure who is right. Hopefully be made clear especially for anyone looking to go to Portugal. If true and it works for them then hats off to them
SchengenVisaInfo reports that UK travellers are now able to use Electronic Gates at all Portugese Airports, and are not treated as third country visitors.
I have seen it on several outlets from both here and abroad and they say that the situation has changed and British visitors are now treated the same as EU visitor's. The independent says this can't be the case as they need to stamp passports so they know how long you are in the country. The daily mirror says Portugal is the first country to abandon manual checks' This would suggest no physical stamping of passports though maybe they have it wrong. I would have thought the e gates that EU and now British visitors use would be able to record when you enter . Maybe they are not capable of that. It does seem to be a conflict of understanding between the independent and all the other reports.
I guess we will find out in due course.
It doesn't change Spain's decision to control its borders being a good thing too though.
What country doesn’t control it’s own borders?
Apparently, we didn't...
But you know full well we did. You are being the Devils avocado. "
I may adopt "The Devil's Avocado" as my profile name
I know that we did, but a significant part of the Brexit campaign was based on saying otherwise.
I'm interested to know if those advocating this support it when border controls negatively impact us. |
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"Looks like Portugal are going to fast-track UK passports through immigration controls.
lots of outlets say it's happening though one paper says it's not so not sure who is right. Hopefully be made clear especially for anyone looking to go to Portugal. If true and it works for them then hats off to them
SchengenVisaInfo reports that UK travellers are now able to use Electronic Gates at all Portugese Airports, and are not treated as third country visitors.
I have seen it on several outlets from both here and abroad and they say that the situation has changed and British visitors are now treated the same as EU visitor's. The independent says this can't be the case as they need to stamp passports so they know how long you are in the country. The daily mirror says Portugal is the first country to abandon manual checks' This would suggest no physical stamping of passports though maybe they have it wrong. I would have thought the e gates that EU and now British visitors use would be able to record when you enter . Maybe they are not capable of that. It does seem to be a conflict of understanding between the independent and all the other reports.
I guess we will find out in due course.
It doesn't change Spain's decision to control its borders being a good thing too though.
What country doesn’t control it’s own borders?
Apparently, we didn't...
But you know full well we did. You are being the Devils avocado.
I may adopt "The Devil's Avocado" as my profile name
I know that we did, but a significant part of the Brexit campaign was based on saying otherwise.
I'm interested to know if those advocating this support it when border controls negatively impact us."
They don’t give a stuff as it doesn’t really impact on them. Neither does it impact on the elite as flying to their Tuscan villas is not made any tougher. |
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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago
West London |
"Looks like Portugal are going to fast-track UK passports through immigration controls.
lots of outlets say it's happening though one paper says it's not so not sure who is right. Hopefully be made clear especially for anyone looking to go to Portugal. If true and it works for them then hats off to them
SchengenVisaInfo reports that UK travellers are now able to use Electronic Gates at all Portugese Airports, and are not treated as third country visitors.
I have seen it on several outlets from both here and abroad and they say that the situation has changed and British visitors are now treated the same as EU visitor's. The independent says this can't be the case as they need to stamp passports so they know how long you are in the country. The daily mirror says Portugal is the first country to abandon manual checks' This would suggest no physical stamping of passports though maybe they have it wrong. I would have thought the e gates that EU and now British visitors use would be able to record when you enter . Maybe they are not capable of that. It does seem to be a conflict of understanding between the independent and all the other reports.
I guess we will find out in due course.
It doesn't change Spain's decision to control its borders being a good thing too though.
What country doesn’t control it’s own borders?
Apparently, we didn't...
But you know full well we did. You are being the Devils avocado.
I may adopt "The Devil's Avocado" as my profile name
I know that we did, but a significant part of the Brexit campaign was based on saying otherwise.
I'm interested to know if those advocating this support it when border controls negatively impact us.
They don’t give a stuff as it doesn’t really impact on them. Neither does it impact on the elite as flying to their Tuscan villas is not made any tougher. "
Even on this site, there seems to be no vocal support of the Spanish implementation.
Talking about Portugal and foreign colonies instead... |
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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago
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"Looks like Portugal are going to fast-track UK passports through immigration controls.
lots of outlets say it's happening though one paper says it's not so not sure who is right. Hopefully be made clear especially for anyone looking to go to Portugal. If true and it works for them then hats off to them
SchengenVisaInfo reports that UK travellers are now able to use Electronic Gates at all Portugese Airports, and are not treated as third country visitors.
I have seen it on several outlets from both here and abroad and they say that the situation has changed and British visitors are now treated the same as EU visitor's. The independent says this can't be the case as they need to stamp passports so they know how long you are in the country. The daily mirror says Portugal is the first country to abandon manual checks' This would suggest no physical stamping of passports though maybe they have it wrong. I would have thought the e gates that EU and now British visitors use would be able to record when you enter . Maybe they are not capable of that. It does seem to be a conflict of understanding between the independent and all the other reports.
I guess we will find out in due course.
It doesn't change Spain's decision to control its borders being a good thing too though."
I hope it becomes clear one way or the other. Be an interesting experiment for them to see if they can attract more visitors. I think it's a very competitive industry so any little advantage would help |
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