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By *uietbloke67 OP Man
over a year ago
outside your bedroom window ;-) |
"See the liar is signing a deal on visas for Indians as part of a trade agreement.
The brexit mob must be raging hahahaha
Why ?
It’s the remain who keep on bringing it up 
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Do you not feel a teeny weensy bit conned.
Go on tell me no, tell me another Boris Porky  |
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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago
Bristol |
"See the liar is signing a deal on visas for Indians as part of a trade agreement.
The brexit mob must be raging hahahaha
Why ?
It’s the remain who keep on bringing it up
Do you not feel a teeny weensy bit conned.
Go on tell me no, tell me another Boris Porky "
No not really as India has some fantastic doctors nurses dentists and lots of professionals we need not endless car wash operatives  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"See the liar is signing a deal on visas for Indians as part of a trade agreement.
The brexit mob must be raging hahahaha
Why ?
It’s the remain who keep on bringing it up
Do you not feel a teeny weensy bit conned.
Go on tell me no, tell me another Boris Porky
No not really as India has some fantastic doctors nurses dentists and lots of professionals we need not endless car wash operatives "
Yes - that would certainly be excellent for the UK.
It also means that the menial tasks like car wash operatives, fruit pickers etc. can be filled by British Workers.
Good thinking |
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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago
Bristol |
"See the liar is signing a deal on visas for Indians as part of a trade agreement.
The brexit mob must be raging hahahaha
Why ?
It’s the remain who keep on bringing it up
Do you not feel a teeny weensy bit conned.
Go on tell me no, tell me another Boris Porky
No not really as India has some fantastic doctors nurses dentists and lots of professionals we need not endless car wash operatives
Yes - that would certainly be excellent for the UK.
It also means that the menial tasks like car wash operatives, fruit pickers etc. can be filled by British Workers.
Good thinking "
You would get no argument from me as I have done low grade manual work for most of my early years on minimum wage until I made enough to get higher up the chain.
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"See the liar is signing a deal on visas for Indians as part of a trade agreement.
The brexit mob must be raging hahahaha
Why ?
It’s the remain who keep on bringing it up
Do you not feel a teeny weensy bit conned.
Go on tell me no, tell me another Boris Porky
No not really as India has some fantastic doctors nurses dentists and lots of professionals we need not endless car wash operatives "
So did the EU countries but most went home much to the celebration of many Leave voters.
Thought part of the drive for Brexit was British jobs for British people? |
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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago
Bristol |
"See the liar is signing a deal on visas for Indians as part of a trade agreement.
The brexit mob must be raging hahahaha
Why ?
It’s the remain who keep on bringing it up
Do you not feel a teeny weensy bit conned.
Go on tell me no, tell me another Boris Porky
No not really as India has some fantastic doctors nurses dentists and lots of professionals we need not endless car wash operatives
So did the EU countries but most went home much to the celebration of many Leave voters.
Thought part of the drive for Brexit was British jobs for British people?"
I thought part of the drive was choosing what professions the uk wanted instead of the free for all that was happening.
Not counting the boat people because they are illegals, but that’s probably a racist view.
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highly ammusing to see johnski's free movement for indians deal utterly overshadowed by his losing control of his party by making them unelectable.
that and watching his 80 seat majority become meaningless in a vote to have three parliamentry investigations into his serial lying to the house and the public, which will run one after the other but only start after the police investigation and the publishing of the sue grey inquiry. this is priceless and will keep the conservative and unionist party in the limelight for their corruption for the next two years up until election time.
labour finally seem to have got their shit together while the conservative and unionists have huge internal rifts and fail to show anybody what they actually stand for as a party other than being dangerous far-righty extremists who are incapable of running an economy or country. |
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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago
Terra Firma |
"See the liar is signing a deal on visas for Indians as part of a trade agreement.
The brexit mob must be raging hahahaha
Why ?
It’s the remain who keep on bringing it up
Do you not feel a teeny weensy bit conned.
Go on tell me no, tell me another Boris Porky
No not really as India has some fantastic doctors nurses dentists and lots of professionals we need not endless car wash operatives "
We need good honest people who contribute to society. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Given how protectionist India is, I suspect they will demand a lot from us.
Think I read somewhere an estimate of the value of a deal is 0.2pc GDP. "
Wow, that high, |
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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago
milton keynes |
"Given how protectionist India is, I suspect they will demand a lot from us.
Think I read somewhere an estimate of the value of a deal is 0.2pc GDP. "
I read a bit on the BBC that said India was so protectionist that we currently do less trade with India than we do with Belgium. Some of the tariffs they impose are huge. They are moving away from that position but will take some time. A glimmer of hope is that they have started doing trade deals recently and now are to rise to be the third biggest economy in the world, so need to get rid of those restrictions. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Given how protectionist India is, I suspect they will demand a lot from us.
Think I read somewhere an estimate of the value of a deal is 0.2pc GDP.
I read a bit on the BBC that said India was so protectionist that we currently do less trade with India than we do with Belgium. Some of the tariffs they impose are huge. They are moving away from that position but will take some time. A glimmer of hope is that they have started doing trade deals recently and now are to rise to be the third biggest economy in the world, so need to get rid of those restrictions."
Excellent.
Shipping goods to and from India makes much more sense that to Europe.
It will also help reduce the volume of lorries queuing at Dover.
Win - Win
Who needs to trade with countries on our doorstep when we can trade with countries halfway across the World and keep the shipping and oil industries fully employed.
Global Britain - think Big and be small... |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
We can sign any trade deal we like and unilaterally change the terms anyway. We just introduce legislation saying that it's okay, so it's legal.
Presumably that means that the counterparty can do the same.
Not sure what the point of the exercise is anymore then. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"We can sign any trade deal we like and unilaterally change the terms anyway. We just introduce legislation saying that it's okay, so it's legal.
Presumably that means that the counterparty can do the same.
Not sure what the point of the exercise is anymore then."
Agreed - the recent proposal that UK Law be changed to make reneging on any signed treaty, trade deal etc. appears to be a retrograde step which will mean that any country signing anything with the UK would have to assume that the signature meant nothing therefore...why bother?
India must be getting all excited at the thought...
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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago
milton keynes |
"Given how protectionist India is, I suspect they will demand a lot from us.
Think I read somewhere an estimate of the value of a deal is 0.2pc GDP.
I read a bit on the BBC that said India was so protectionist that we currently do less trade with India than we do with Belgium. Some of the tariffs they impose are huge. They are moving away from that position but will take some time. A glimmer of hope is that they have started doing trade deals recently and now are to rise to be the third biggest economy in the world, so need to get rid of those restrictions.
Excellent.
Shipping goods to and from India makes much more sense that to Europe.
It will also help reduce the volume of lorries queuing at Dover.
Win - Win
Who needs to trade with countries on our doorstep when we can trade with countries halfway across the World and keep the shipping and oil industries fully employed.
Global Britain - think Big and be small..."
I was just posting what the BBC report says. It was focused on India. They did not mention Europe or not trading with Europe in favour of India as far as I read. |
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"Given how protectionist India is, I suspect they will demand a lot from us.
Think I read somewhere an estimate of the value of a deal is 0.2pc GDP.
I read a bit on the BBC that said India was so protectionist that we currently do less trade with India than we do with Belgium. Some of the tariffs they impose are huge. They are moving away from that position but will take some time. A glimmer of hope is that they have started doing trade deals recently and now are to rise to be the third biggest economy in the world, so need to get rid of those restrictions.
Excellent.
Shipping goods to and from India makes much more sense that to Europe.
It will also help reduce the volume of lorries queuing at Dover.
Win - Win
Who needs to trade with countries on our doorstep when we can trade with countries halfway across the World and keep the shipping and oil industries fully employed.
Global Britain - think Big and be small..."
. The trade with India will be in addition to that with the EU. I am sure most commercial organisations will be aware of transport costs and adjust adjust their target markets accordingly . European countries will probably be given preference to India . The Indian trade will not replace trade with European countries, it will be additional |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Given how protectionist India is, I suspect they will demand a lot from us.
Think I read somewhere an estimate of the value of a deal is 0.2pc GDP.
I read a bit on the BBC that said India was so protectionist that we currently do less trade with India than we do with Belgium. Some of the tariffs they impose are huge. They are moving away from that position but will take some time. A glimmer of hope is that they have started doing trade deals recently and now are to rise to be the third biggest economy in the world, so need to get rid of those restrictions.
Excellent.
Shipping goods to and from India makes much more sense that to Europe.
It will also help reduce the volume of lorries queuing at Dover.
Win - Win
Who needs to trade with countries on our doorstep when we can trade with countries halfway across the World and keep the shipping and oil industries fully employed.
Global Britain - think Big and be small... . The trade with India will be in addition to that with the EU. I am sure most commercial organisations will be aware of transport costs and adjust adjust their target markets accordingly . European countries will probably be given preference to India . The Indian trade will not replace trade with European countries, it will be additional "
Every bit helps given the trade deal with India, at best, would be worth 0.25% of GDP whilst the OBR states GDP will shrink by 4% due to Brexit. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"Given how protectionist India is, I suspect they will demand a lot from us.
Think I read somewhere an estimate of the value of a deal is 0.2pc GDP.
I read a bit on the BBC that said India was so protectionist that we currently do less trade with India than we do with Belgium. Some of the tariffs they impose are huge. They are moving away from that position but will take some time. A glimmer of hope is that they have started doing trade deals recently and now are to rise to be the third biggest economy in the world, so need to get rid of those restrictions.
Excellent.
Shipping goods to and from India makes much more sense that to Europe.
It will also help reduce the volume of lorries queuing at Dover.
Win - Win
Who needs to trade with countries on our doorstep when we can trade with countries halfway across the World and keep the shipping and oil industries fully employed.
Global Britain - think Big and be small... . The trade with India will be in addition to that with the EU. I am sure most commercial organisations will be aware of transport costs and adjust adjust their target markets accordingly . European countries will probably be given preference to India . The Indian trade will not replace trade with European countries, it will be additional "
Trade with the EU is shrinking as barriers to tease are being created as per the negotiated agreement.
Some proportion of the increased trade with India merely replaces that lost with the EU.
That is clear to you I hope. |
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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago
milton keynes |
"Given how protectionist India is, I suspect they will demand a lot from us.
Think I read somewhere an estimate of the value of a deal is 0.2pc GDP.
I read a bit on the BBC that said India was so protectionist that we currently do less trade with India than we do with Belgium. Some of the tariffs they impose are huge. They are moving away from that position but will take some time. A glimmer of hope is that they have started doing trade deals recently and now are to rise to be the third biggest economy in the world, so need to get rid of those restrictions.
Excellent.
Shipping goods to and from India makes much more sense that to Europe.
It will also help reduce the volume of lorries queuing at Dover.
Win - Win
Who needs to trade with countries on our doorstep when we can trade with countries halfway across the World and keep the shipping and oil industries fully employed.
Global Britain - think Big and be small... . The trade with India will be in addition to that with the EU. I am sure most commercial organisations will be aware of transport costs and adjust adjust their target markets accordingly . European countries will probably be given preference to India . The Indian trade will not replace trade with European countries, it will be additional "
I read a bit on this a while back. It is not a straightforward place with different regions having different rules. Even moving goods from one region to another can incur problems. The deal will have to overcome the complexities or will not be worth it. If they do overcome the tariffs ect then it could go well. Immediate gains are relatively small but if India continue growing like they have then the gains will be much larger. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"Given how protectionist India is, I suspect they will demand a lot from us.
Think I read somewhere an estimate of the value of a deal is 0.2pc GDP.
I read a bit on the BBC that said India was so protectionist that we currently do less trade with India than we do with Belgium. Some of the tariffs they impose are huge. They are moving away from that position but will take some time. A glimmer of hope is that they have started doing trade deals recently and now are to rise to be the third biggest economy in the world, so need to get rid of those restrictions.
Excellent.
Shipping goods to and from India makes much more sense that to Europe.
It will also help reduce the volume of lorries queuing at Dover.
Win - Win
Who needs to trade with countries on our doorstep when we can trade with countries halfway across the World and keep the shipping and oil industries fully employed.
Global Britain - think Big and be small... . The trade with India will be in addition to that with the EU. I am sure most commercial organisations will be aware of transport costs and adjust adjust their target markets accordingly . European countries will probably be given preference to India . The Indian trade will not replace trade with European countries, it will be additional
I read a bit on this a while back. It is not a straightforward place with different regions having different rules. Even moving goods from one region to another can incur problems. The deal will have to overcome the complexities or will not be worth it. If they do overcome the tariffs ect then it could go well. Immediate gains are relatively small but if India continue growing like they have then the gains will be much larger. "
It will be a benefit if we have anything that they wish to buy.
There is no guarantee that increased trade improves UK exports. The NZ and Australian deals are expected to create a negative outcome for the UK economy. This is without the rise of nationalism in India which includes a certain antipathy towards the former colonial power.
Other EU states have had significantly higher levels of trade with India for many years without a trade deal.
It looks like the primary export item will be weapons to split India from its reliance on Russia and its subsequent diplomatic ties. Should replace the Middle East which is no longer a guaranteed market. |
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"Given how protectionist India is, I suspect they will demand a lot from us.
Think I read somewhere an estimate of the value of a deal is 0.2pc GDP.
I read a bit on the BBC that said India was so protectionist that we currently do less trade with India than we do with Belgium. Some of the tariffs they impose are huge. They are moving away from that position but will take some time. A glimmer of hope is that they have started doing trade deals recently and now are to rise to be the third biggest economy in the world, so need to get rid of those restrictions.
Excellent.
Shipping goods to and from India makes much more sense that to Europe.
It will also help reduce the volume of lorries queuing at Dover.
Win - Win
Who needs to trade with countries on our doorstep when we can trade with countries halfway across the World and keep the shipping and oil industries fully employed.
Global Britain - think Big and be small... . The trade with India will be in addition to that with the EU. I am sure most commercial organisations will be aware of transport costs and adjust adjust their target markets accordingly . European countries will probably be given preference to India . The Indian trade will not replace trade with European countries, it will be additional
Every bit helps given the trade deal with India, at best, would be worth 0.25% of GDP whilst the OBR states GDP will shrink by 4% due to Brexit."
. However I think we can safely ignore any estimates by the OBR . They have proved to be hopelessly inaccurate. With a lot of modelling you can get the result you want by altering assumptions and modifying inputs. |
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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago
milton keynes |
"Given how protectionist India is, I suspect they will demand a lot from us.
Think I read somewhere an estimate of the value of a deal is 0.2pc GDP.
I read a bit on the BBC that said India was so protectionist that we currently do less trade with India than we do with Belgium. Some of the tariffs they impose are huge. They are moving away from that position but will take some time. A glimmer of hope is that they have started doing trade deals recently and now are to rise to be the third biggest economy in the world, so need to get rid of those restrictions.
Excellent.
Shipping goods to and from India makes much more sense that to Europe.
It will also help reduce the volume of lorries queuing at Dover.
Win - Win
Who needs to trade with countries on our doorstep when we can trade with countries halfway across the World and keep the shipping and oil industries fully employed.
Global Britain - think Big and be small... . The trade with India will be in addition to that with the EU. I am sure most commercial organisations will be aware of transport costs and adjust adjust their target markets accordingly . European countries will probably be given preference to India . The Indian trade will not replace trade with European countries, it will be additional
Every bit helps given the trade deal with India, at best, would be worth 0.25% of GDP whilst the OBR states GDP will shrink by 4% due to Brexit.. However I think we can safely ignore any estimates by the OBR . They have proved to be hopelessly inaccurate. With a lot of modelling you can get the result you want by altering assumptions and modifying inputs. "
Of course you can ignore the estimates but that's all we have to go on until the actual figures are in. What would be interesting is a table that compared predictions to actual outcomes. On India the ONS says trade with India was at plus 8.7% by September last year. Apparently they buy many things from the UK with popular things being machinery, nuclear reactors and boilers. What they did not say was what the predictions were prior to the results. Also on the predicted figures you doubt they do revise them as things become known. I recall seeing they changed their short to medium term predictions on something similar as the actual results were better than anticipated. I think they do a difficult job |
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"Given how protectionist India is, I suspect they will demand a lot from us.
Think I read somewhere an estimate of the value of a deal is 0.2pc GDP.
I read a bit on the BBC that said India was so protectionist that we currently do less trade with India than we do with Belgium. Some of the tariffs they impose are huge. They are moving away from that position but will take some time. A glimmer of hope is that they have started doing trade deals recently and now are to rise to be the third biggest economy in the world, so need to get rid of those restrictions.
Excellent.
Shipping goods to and from India makes much more sense that to Europe.
It will also help reduce the volume of lorries queuing at Dover.
Win - Win
Who needs to trade with countries on our doorstep when we can trade with countries halfway across the World and keep the shipping and oil industries fully employed.
Global Britain - think Big and be small... . The trade with India will be in addition to that with the EU. I am sure most commercial organisations will be aware of transport costs and adjust adjust their target markets accordingly . European countries will probably be given preference to India . The Indian trade will not replace trade with European countries, it will be additional
Every bit helps given the trade deal with India, at best, would be worth 0.25% of GDP whilst the OBR states GDP will shrink by 4% due to Brexit.. However I think we can safely ignore any estimates by the OBR . They have proved to be hopelessly inaccurate. With a lot of modelling you can get the result you want by altering assumptions and modifying inputs.
Of course you can ignore the estimates but that's all we have to go on until the actual figures are in. What would be interesting is a table that compared predictions to actual outcomes. On India the ONS says trade with India was at plus 8.7% by September last year. Apparently they buy many things from the UK with popular things being machinery, nuclear reactors and boilers. What they did not say was what the predictions were prior to the results. Also on the predicted figures you doubt they do revise them as things become known. I recall seeing they changed their short to medium term predictions on something similar as the actual results were better than anticipated. I think they do a difficult job"
we still won't know what GDP would like had we stayed. Wherever number is quites people will say yes but, modelling, COVID, Ukraine, Corbyn, etc |
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By *mp411Man
over a year ago
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And while we are bickering among ourselves the lying theiveing corrupt hippocritical polititans are getting fat on the misery they are causing us with high taxes, high costs for food and extortionate energy, unfettered immigration. Multiculturalism doesn't work |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"And while we are bickering among ourselves the lying theiveing corrupt hippocritical polititans are getting fat on the misery they are causing us with high taxes, high costs for food and extortionate energy, unfettered immigration. Multiculturalism doesn't work "
how is that multiculturalisms fault?
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"And while we are bickering among ourselves the lying theiveing corrupt hippocritical polititans are getting fat on the misery they are causing us with high taxes, high costs for food and extortionate energy, unfettered immigration. Multiculturalism doesn't work "
Some of us defend the government at any cost and voted for brexit. Some of us question the government corruption and are against the UK being flushed down the shitter.
Multiculturalism works perfectly. The only ones it doesn't work for is bigots. Everyone else gets along just fine. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"And while we are bickering among ourselves the lying theiveing corrupt hippocritical polititans are getting fat on the misery they are causing us with high taxes, high costs for food and extortionate energy, unfettered immigration. Multiculturalism doesn't work "
This appears to be blaming people with different backgrounds for all of the UKs problems. Is that what you're saying?
Please feel free to explain the link between corrupt government, global economics and multiculturalism. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So Boris is off signing a trade deal with India who have massively increased their imports of Russian oil since the war started
Is that right ? "
They did, they got are getting it at discounted price. |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
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"So Boris is off signing a trade deal with India who have massively increased their imports of Russian oil since the war started
Is that right ? "
Yes nice to know where their moral compass is in relation to a country being invaded. They take advantage and help the aggressor. |
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"So Boris is off signing a trade deal with India who have massively increased their imports of Russian oil since the war started
Is that right ?
Yes nice to know where their moral compass is in relation to a country being invaded. They take advantage and help the aggressor. "
They have answered that, by pointing out their purchase is still a fraction of what Europe, is still buying in a day from Russia.
https://m.economictimes.com/news/india/indias-total-purchases-of-russian-oil-for-month-less-than-what-europe-does-in-afternoon-jaishankar/articleshow/90789179.cms
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
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"So Boris is off signing a trade deal with India who have massively increased their imports of Russian oil since the war started
Is that right ?
Yes nice to know where their moral compass is in relation to a country being invaded. They take advantage and help the aggressor.
They have answered that, by pointing out their purchase is still a fraction of what Europe, is still buying in a day from Russia.
https://m.economictimes.com/news/india/indias-total-purchases-of-russian-oil-for-month-less-than-what-europe-does-in-afternoon-jaishankar/articleshow/90789179.cms
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Europe is trying to reduce consumption India is increasing not sure what is morally good about that. It’s still taking advantage and increasing support .
It’s like saying India is trying to reduce the number of racist killings there, but as we only have a few here in the U.K. we will allow an increase of two per week for the Indian ex pats to commit. That’s a very low number per afternoon.
It’s not a valid argument at all. Oh and I’m not advocating murders just making a point. |
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"So Boris is off signing a trade deal with India who have massively increased their imports of Russian oil since the war started
Is that right ?
Yes nice to know where their moral compass is in relation to a country being invaded. They take advantage and help the aggressor.
They have answered that, by pointing out their purchase is still a fraction of what Europe, is still buying in a day from Russia.
https://m.economictimes.com/news/india/indias-total-purchases-of-russian-oil-for-month-less-than-what-europe-does-in-afternoon-jaishankar/articleshow/90789179.cms
Europe is trying to reduce consumption India is increasing not sure what is morally good about that. It’s still taking advantage and increasing support .
It’s like saying India is trying to reduce the number of racist killings there, but as we only have a few here in the U.K. we will allow an increase of two per week for the Indian ex pats to commit. That’s a very low number per afternoon.
It’s not a valid argument at all. Oh and I’m not advocating murders just making a point. "
Its not the way moral compass works with government and countries. Where is the moral compass of the west with Saudi Arabia and Yemen, for example. You can't have your cake and eat it.
India also has a special relationship with Russia. In the past the Soviet Union was the only country that supported India while the USA, China ganged up against it to support Pakistan, even when Pakistan was committing genocide in Bangladesh. Most countries like most people don't forget support from others through hard times. |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"So Boris is off signing a trade deal with India who have massively increased their imports of Russian oil since the war started
Is that right ?
Yes nice to know where their moral compass is in relation to a country being invaded. They take advantage and help the aggressor.
They have answered that, by pointing out their purchase is still a fraction of what Europe, is still buying in a day from Russia.
https://m.economictimes.com/news/india/indias-total-purchases-of-russian-oil-for-month-less-than-what-europe-does-in-afternoon-jaishankar/articleshow/90789179.cms
Europe is trying to reduce consumption India is increasing not sure what is morally good about that. It’s still taking advantage and increasing support .
It’s like saying India is trying to reduce the number of racist killings there, but as we only have a few here in the U.K. we will allow an increase of two per week for the Indian ex pats to commit. That’s a very low number per afternoon.
It’s not a valid argument at all. Oh and I’m not advocating murders just making a point.
Its not the way moral compass works with government and countries. Where is the moral compass of the west with Saudi Arabia and Yemen, for example. You can't have your cake and eat it.
India also has a special relationship with Russia. In the past the Soviet Union was the only country that supported India while the USA, China ganged up against it to support Pakistan, even when Pakistan was committing genocide in Bangladesh. Most countries like most people don't forget support from others through hard times."
I have to say you make a very compelling point and must admit I agree with you.
My narrow view as it’s close to home made me forget for a moment how much we interfere to the often fatal cost of others.
Happy to admit whilst I’m disappointed in India’s stance, I lost this argument to a better standpoint. |
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"So Boris is off signing a trade deal with India who have massively increased their imports of Russian oil since the war started
Is that right ?
Yes nice to know where their moral compass is in relation to a country being invaded. They take advantage and help the aggressor.
They have answered that, by pointing out their purchase is still a fraction of what Europe, is still buying in a day from Russia.
https://m.economictimes.com/news/india/indias-total-purchases-of-russian-oil-for-month-less-than-what-europe-does-in-afternoon-jaishankar/articleshow/90789179.cms
Europe is trying to reduce consumption India is increasing not sure what is morally good about that. It’s still taking advantage and increasing support .
It’s like saying India is trying to reduce the number of racist killings there, but as we only have a few here in the U.K. we will allow an increase of two per week for the Indian ex pats to commit. That’s a very low number per afternoon.
It’s not a valid argument at all. Oh and I’m not advocating murders just making a point.
Its not the way moral compass works with government and countries. Where is the moral compass of the west with Saudi Arabia and Yemen, for example. You can't have your cake and eat it.
India also has a special relationship with Russia. In the past the Soviet Union was the only country that supported India while the USA, China ganged up against it to support Pakistan, even when Pakistan was committing genocide in Bangladesh. Most countries like most people don't forget support from others through hard times.
I have to say you make a very compelling point and must admit I agree with you.
My narrow view as it’s close to home made me forget for a moment how much we interfere to the often fatal cost of others.
Happy to admit whilst I’m disappointed in India’s stance, I lost this argument to a better standpoint. "
Its easy to just judge the present by current news. I watched some Indian news channels clips on YouTube about Liz Truss visit to India a few weeks ago.
They all reported it has the hypocrisy of a formal colonial powers coming to wag its finger thinking it still had a empire.
Its was only through those clips I became aware of those events and looked further into them. The cause of the war between India and Pakistan leading to the creation of Bangladesh, I recommend people to have a look at.
Nixon and Kissenger allegedly knew about the genocide the Pakistani carried in Bangladesh,but still carried on arming them. Allegedly upto 3 million Bangladeshi's killed.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_Bangladesh_genocide
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"And while we are bickering among ourselves the lying theiveing corrupt hippocritical polititans are getting fat on the misery they are causing us with high taxes, high costs for food and extortionate energy, unfettered immigration. Multiculturalism doesn't work "
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"Labour got their shit together ? Hehehehehe!!!! 
Has Corbyn got a new jib as a toilet cleaner? "
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"So Boris is off signing a trade deal with India who have massively increased their imports of Russian oil since the war started
Is that right ?
Yes nice to know where their moral compass is in relation to a country being invaded. They take advantage and help the aggressor.
They have answered that, by pointing out their purchase is still a fraction of what Europe, is still buying in a day from Russia.
https://m.economictimes.com/news/india/indias-total-purchases-of-russian-oil-for-month-less-than-what-europe-does-in-afternoon-jaishankar/articleshow/90789179.cms
Europe is trying to reduce consumption India is increasing not sure what is morally good about that. It’s still taking advantage and increasing support .
It’s like saying India is trying to reduce the number of racist killings there, but as we only have a few here in the U.K. we will allow an increase of two per week for the Indian ex pats to commit. That’s a very low number per afternoon.
It’s not a valid argument at all. Oh and I’m not advocating murders just making a point.
Its not the way moral compass works with government and countries. Where is the moral compass of the west with Saudi Arabia and Yemen, for example. You can't have your cake and eat it.
India also has a special relationship with Russia. In the past the Soviet Union was the only country that supported India while the USA, China ganged up against it to support Pakistan, even when Pakistan was committing genocide in Bangladesh. Most countries like most people don't forget support from others through hard times.
I have to say you make a very compelling point and must admit I agree with you.
My narrow view as it’s close to home made me forget for a moment how much we interfere to the often fatal cost of others.
Happy to admit whilst I’m disappointed in India’s stance, I lost this argument to a better standpoint.
Its easy to just judge the present by current news. I watched some Indian news channels clips on YouTube about Liz Truss visit to India a few weeks ago.
They all reported it has the hypocrisy of a formal colonial powers coming to wag its finger thinking it still had a empire.
Its was only through those clips I became aware of those events and looked further into them. The cause of the war between India and Pakistan leading to the creation of Bangladesh, I recommend people to have a look at.
Nixon and Kissenger allegedly knew about the genocide the Pakistani carried in Bangladesh,but still carried on arming them. Allegedly upto 3 million Bangladeshi's killed.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_Bangladesh_genocide
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I think India are really playing with Britain, it’s the shoe is on the other foot now, well it’s probably expected considering all the stuff we did to them in the past. I guess Boris embodies everything that was bad with the old empire perhaps? |
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