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" https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10695243/PMs-refreshing-view-trans-athletes-row-chimes-millions-Britons-says-Kwasi-Kwarteng.html Thoughts? Surely, if someone is trans, that means they have become that sex? " No If a man becomes a woman through surgery then they still have the muscle mass of a male. Basic biology, can’t argue with nature  | |||
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"Is this political? " It could be, most likely will be | |||
"Is this political? " People make this political, especially the far right who use it as an excuse to bash the trans community. Piers Morgan gets especially triggered by this kind of thing. As an example. | |||
"Is this political? People make this political, especially the far right who use it as an excuse to bash the trans community. Piers Morgan gets especially triggered by this kind of thing. As an example." I think it is politicised from left to right at every opportunity. | |||
"Is this political? People make this political, especially the far right who use it as an excuse to bash the trans community. Piers Morgan gets especially triggered by this kind of thing. As an example. I think it is politicised from left to right at every opportunity. " Maybe. But the far right sure do love any excuse for some trans bashing. | |||
"Is this political? People make this political, especially the far right who use it as an excuse to bash the trans community. Piers Morgan gets especially triggered by this kind of thing. As an example. I think it is politicised from left to right at every opportunity. Maybe. But the far right sure do love any excuse for some trans bashing." Morgan is a liberal. | |||
"Is this political? People make this political, especially the far right who use it as an excuse to bash the trans community. Piers Morgan gets especially triggered by this kind of thing. As an example. I think it is politicised from left to right at every opportunity. Maybe. But the far right sure do love any excuse for some trans bashing. Morgan is a liberal." He's a bellend with dodgy views that align with the far right. However, I pay very little attention to him. So I'll take that he is a liberal if you say he is. I genuinely don't know. | |||
"Is this political? People make this political, especially the far right who use it as an excuse to bash the trans community. Piers Morgan gets especially triggered by this kind of thing. As an example. I think it is politicised from left to right at every opportunity. Maybe. But the far right sure do love any excuse for some trans bashing. Morgan is a liberal." Morgan is a Conservative Describes himself as "basically a tory" | |||
"Is this political? People make this political, especially the far right who use it as an excuse to bash the trans community. Piers Morgan gets especially triggered by this kind of thing. As an example. I think it is politicised from left to right at every opportunity. Maybe. But the far right sure do love any excuse for some trans bashing. Morgan is a liberal. Morgan is a Conservative Describes himself as "basically a tory"" He has written many times he is liberal but people assume he is conservative. | |||
"Is this political? People make this political, especially the far right who use it as an excuse to bash the trans community. Piers Morgan gets especially triggered by this kind of thing. As an example. I think it is politicised from left to right at every opportunity. Maybe. But the far right sure do love any excuse for some trans bashing. Morgan is a liberal. Morgan is a Conservative Describes himself as "basically a tory" He has written many times he is liberal but people assume he is conservative. " Probably because of transphobic views and that kind of stuff. | |||
"Is this political? People make this political, especially the far right who use it as an excuse to bash the trans community. Piers Morgan gets especially triggered by this kind of thing. As an example. I think it is politicised from left to right at every opportunity. Maybe. But the far right sure do love any excuse for some trans bashing. Morgan is a liberal. Morgan is a Conservative Describes himself as "basically a tory"" I have fact checked myself and I can only apologise! He changes like the bloody wind, cock! | |||
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"Is this political? People make this political, especially the far right who use it as an excuse to bash the trans community. Piers Morgan gets especially triggered by this kind of thing. As an example. I think it is politicised from left to right at every opportunity. Maybe. But the far right sure do love any excuse for some trans bashing. Morgan is a liberal. Morgan is a Conservative Describes himself as "basically a tory" He has written many times he is liberal but people assume he is conservative. " I read him say he is Conservative in UK but Liberal in US | |||
"Is this political? People make this political, especially the far right who use it as an excuse to bash the trans community. Piers Morgan gets especially triggered by this kind of thing. As an example. I think it is politicised from left to right at every opportunity. Maybe. But the far right sure do love any excuse for some trans bashing. Morgan is a liberal. Morgan is a Conservative Describes himself as "basically a tory" I have fact checked myself and I can only apologise! He changes like the bloody wind, cock!" I should apologise for knowing this much about the that. | |||
"Is this political? People make this political, especially the far right who use it as an excuse to bash the trans community. Piers Morgan gets especially triggered by this kind of thing. As an example. I think it is politicised from left to right at every opportunity. Maybe. But the far right sure do love any excuse for some trans bashing. Morgan is a liberal. Morgan is a Conservative Describes himself as "basically a tory" He has written many times he is liberal but people assume he is conservative. Probably because of transphobic views and that kind of stuff." I got my facts wrong, as I posted above I fact checked myself, and he seems to change his views on a whim. | |||
"Is this political? People make this political, especially the far right who use it as an excuse to bash the trans community. Piers Morgan gets especially triggered by this kind of thing. As an example. I think it is politicised from left to right at every opportunity. Maybe. But the far right sure do love any excuse for some trans bashing." Nothing wrong with a bit of trans bashing as long as you have 2 things: 1) Lube 2) Consent | |||
"Is this political? People make this political, especially the far right who use it as an excuse to bash the trans community. Piers Morgan gets especially triggered by this kind of thing. As an example. I think it is politicised from left to right at every opportunity Maybe. But the far right sure do love any excuse for some trans bashing. Morgan is a liberal. Morgan is a Conservative Describes himself as "basically a tory" I have fact checked myself and I can only apologise! He changes like the bloody wind, cock! I should apologise for knowing this much about the that. "  | |||
"Is this political? People make this political, especially the far right who use it as an excuse to bash the trans community. Piers Morgan gets especially triggered by this kind of thing. As an example. I think it is politicised from left to right at every opportunity. Maybe. But the far right sure do love any excuse for some trans bashing. Morgan is a liberal. Morgan is a Conservative Describes himself as "basically a tory" He has written many times he is liberal but people assume he is conservative. Probably because of transphobic views and that kind of stuff. I got my facts wrong, as I posted above I fact checked myself, and he seems to change his views on a whim. "
Sure he's an awful prick. Maybe he was a bad example. | |||
"Thoughts? It's another attempt to ignite the culture war so people won't look at how our government seems intent on screwing us all." Spot on! Let's waste time arguing on this and ignore workers rights and the worst drop in living standards since the 50s. | |||
"Is this political? People make this political, especially the far right who use it as an excuse to bash the trans community. Piers Morgan gets especially triggered by this kind of thing. As an example. I think it is politicised from left to right at every opportunity. Maybe. But the far right sure do love any excuse for some trans bashing. Morgan is a liberal. Morgan is a Conservative Describes himself as "basically a tory" He has written many times he is liberal but people assume he is conservative. " Maybe because he’s a wanker. | |||
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"Is this political? People make this political, especially the far right who use it as an excuse to bash the trans community. Piers Morgan gets especially triggered by this kind of thing. As an example." I often hear of the bogey man that is the far right. Who exactly are the far right? Do you actually mean far right as in right wing? Or as its more commonly used these days, anyone that doesn't agree with you? | |||
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"Most everything that the media and the government say about us is bollocks to distract from the fact that they are fucking horrible people who are screwing the entire country. "Never mind that the tories have stolen billions of pounds during the pandemic, look over there, a transwoman attempting to go for a piss in private, lynch her because she is really a man that is stealing all the gold medals". There's a tiny number of us, we're just trying to get on with our lives, and we are getting really really sick of all the cunts that are spouting shit about us all the time. It's a drip drip drip every single day of our lives. Please just stop it everybody. If you listen to yourselves, you're using the same words as Putin; when you find yourselves on the same side as a genocidal dictator, you ought to know that you are wrong. To all who are offended by this, because you recognise yourselves in my words, not sorry at all. Those who I'm not talking about, I know that you won't be offended, because you will recognise the truth of what I say. Oh yeah, and "woke" to all of you. Peace and love everyone, Polly." See this is what happens when you make things black and white. I don't agree with you, but at the same time I'm not offended. While yes I do agree there are some things societaly that need to change. That doesn't mean everything needs to change for such a tiny minority of the population. There's also the fact that the public in ever increasing numbers are becoming less and less sympathetic with the trans community because of a ridiculous vocal minority within a minority that are controlling the narrative. Those people aren't doing your cause any favours. There's also the fact that sometimes you just have to live with reality. No matter how much it upsets you. There are things I don't like about reality. But I'm not about to go around hurling names at people, destroying careers, causing unrest and just plain being an asshole because I don't like it. At the end of the day, no one is disagreeing that trans people should be allowed to participate within professional athletics. But there are very real and very harmful consequences for women as a result of throwing all science into the wind just because you don't like what it says. That may change over time when more studies are done. But you can't escape the fact the biological women are at a disadvantage when it comes to competing with trans athletes. That's not because you're hated. That's reality. It's an inescapable scientific fact. You might not like it, but it doesn't equate to anyone thinking you should have more or less rights than anyone else. To suggest otherwise is just narrow minded and ignorant. You can choose to be like that. That's up to you. But don't expect to be loved for it. Have a conversation. Discuss the topic by all means. But when you start with the doom and gloom everyone hates us rhetoric, you just push open minded and tolerant people away from even considering your point of view. | |||
"Most everything that the media and the government say about us is bollocks to distract from the fact that they are fucking horrible people who are screwing the entire country. "Never mind that the tories have stolen billions of pounds during the pandemic, look over there, a transwoman attempting to go for a piss in private, lynch her because she is really a man that is stealing all the gold medals". There's a tiny number of us, we're just trying to get on with our lives, and we are getting really really sick of all the cunts that are spouting shit about us all the time. It's a drip drip drip every single day of our lives. Please just stop it everybody. If you listen to yourselves, you're using the same words as Putin; when you find yourselves on the same side as a genocidal dictator, you ought to know that you are wrong. To all who are offended by this, because you recognise yourselves in my words, not sorry at all. Those who I'm not talking about, I know that you won't be offended, because you will recognise the truth of what I say. Oh yeah, and "woke" to all of you. Peace and love everyone, Polly. See this is what happens when you make things black and white. I don't agree with you, but at the same time I'm not offended. While yes I do agree there are some things societaly that need to change. That doesn't mean everything needs to change for such a tiny minority of the population. There's also the fact that the public in ever increasing numbers are becoming less and less sympathetic with the trans community because of a ridiculous vocal minority within a minority that are controlling the narrative. Those people aren't doing your cause any favours. There's also the fact that sometimes you just have to live with reality. No matter how much it upsets you. There are things I don't like about reality. But I'm not about to go around hurling names at people, destroying careers, causing unrest and just plain being an asshole because I don't like it. At the end of the day, no one is disagreeing that trans people should be allowed to participate within professional athletics. But there are very real and very harmful consequences for women as a result of throwing all science into the wind just because you don't like what it says. That may change over time when more studies are done. But you can't escape the fact the biological women are at a disadvantage when it comes to competing with trans athletes. That's not because you're hated. That's reality. It's an inescapable scientific fact. You might not like it, but it doesn't equate to anyone thinking you should have more or less rights than anyone else. To suggest otherwise is just narrow minded and ignorant. You can choose to be like that. That's up to you. But don't expect to be loved for it. Have a conversation. Discuss the topic by all means. But when you start with the doom and gloom everyone hates us rhetoric, you just push open minded and tolerant people away from even considering your point of view." You think that there is anyone in the trans community that is controlling the narrative? I must have missed all the major newspapers that are being pushed around by the trans cabal, that are every day publishing articles saying that cis people are perverts. Perhaps I'm not aware of how the UK parliament has been forced into allowing everybody to freely change their legal gender three times a day if they want to. And somehow I failed to notice that since the current sports rules were set twenty odd years ago, every single womens gold medal has been taken by the hordes of trans that have overwhelmed every olympic event. Or maybe in fact the situation is totally the other way around. Your statement is that because a very few people within a marginalised and victimised group have finally dared stand up and start talking back, then that group should be kicked even harder. Those uppity trans people, how dare they talk back! The majority are totally justified, obligated even, to stick the boot in if the minority complains. It's all the fault of the victims, if only they didn't bleed everywhere, it wouldn't be necessary to bully them. We aren't the ones pushing away open minded and tolerant people. That would be transphobes that are every day making up shit about us. That are every day starting forum posts about how we want to destroy real gender, or steal womens rights. Or maybe we'd just like to be allowed to have a piss without someone demanding to look at our genitals? | |||
"Is this political? People make this political, especially the far right who use it as an excuse to bash the trans community. Piers Morgan gets especially triggered by this kind of thing. As an example. I often hear of the bogey man that is the far right. Who exactly are the far right? Do you actually mean far right as in right wing? Or as its more commonly used these days, anyone that doesn't agree with you?" This is a very strange reply. "Far right" is unrelated to the concept of agreement with other people on any subject. far right noun the extreme right wing of a political party or group. "while the far right may gain some seats, it is far from gaining power" adjective belonging to or representing the views of the extreme right wing of a political party or group. "far right politicians" Hope that helps. | |||
"Is this political? People make this political, especially the far right who use it as an excuse to bash the trans community. Piers Morgan gets especially triggered by this kind of thing. As an example. I think it is politicised from left to right at every opportunity. Maybe. But the far right sure do love any excuse for some trans bashing. Morgan is a liberal. Morgan is a Conservative Describes himself as "basically a tory"" Which is odd if you were an editor of the daily mirror ? | |||
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"Most everything that the media and the government say about us is bollocks to distract from the fact that they are fucking horrible people who are screwing the entire country. "Never mind that the tories have stolen billions of pounds during the pandemic, look over there, a transwoman attempting to go for a piss in private, lynch her because she is really a man that is stealing all the gold medals". There's a tiny number of us, we're just trying to get on with our lives, and we are getting really really sick of all the cunts that are spouting shit about us all the time. It's a drip drip drip every single day of our lives. Please just stop it everybody. If you listen to yourselves, you're using the same words as Putin; when you find yourselves on the same side as a genocidal dictator, you ought to know that you are wrong. To all who are offended by this, because you recognise yourselves in my words, not sorry at all. Those who I'm not talking about, I know that you won't be offended, because you will recognise the truth of what I say. Oh yeah, and "woke" to all of you. Peace and love everyone, Polly." | |||
" You think that there is anyone in the trans community that is controlling the narrative? I must have missed all the major newspapers that are being pushed around by the trans cabal, that are every day publishing articles saying that cis people are perverts. Perhaps I'm not aware of how the UK parliament has been forced into allowing everybody to freely change their legal gender three times a day if they want to. And somehow I failed to notice that since the current sports rules were set twenty odd years ago, every single womens gold medal has been taken by the hordes of trans that have overwhelmed every olympic event. Or maybe in fact the situation is totally the other way around. Your statement is that because a very few people within a marginalised and victimised group have finally dared stand up and start talking back, then that group should be kicked even harder. Those uppity trans people, how dare they talk back! The majority are totally justified, obligated even, to stick the boot in if the minority complains. It's all the fault of the victims, if only they didn't bleed everywhere, it wouldn't be necessary to bully them. We aren't the ones pushing away open minded and tolerant people. That would be transphobes that are every day making up shit about us. That are every day starting forum posts about how we want to destroy real gender, or steal womens rights. Or maybe we'd just like to be allowed to have a piss without someone demanding to look at our genitals?" | |||
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"Most everything that the media and the government say about us is bollocks to distract from the fact that they are fucking horrible people who are screwing the entire country. "Never mind that the tories have stolen billions of pounds during the pandemic, look over there, a transwoman attempting to go for a piss in private, lynch her because she is really a man that is stealing all the gold medals". There's a tiny number of us, we're just trying to get on with our lives, and we are getting really really sick of all the cunts that are spouting shit about us all the time. It's a drip drip drip every single day of our lives. Please just stop it everybody. If you listen to yourselves, you're using the same words as Putin; when you find yourselves on the same side as a genocidal dictator, you ought to know that you are wrong. To all who are offended by this, because you recognise yourselves in my words, not sorry at all. Those who I'm not talking about, I know that you won't be offended, because you will recognise the truth of what I say. Oh yeah, and "woke" to all of you. Peace and love everyone, Polly." Stop demanding access to women's sports, changing rooms, prisons etc & you won't get the backlash. | |||
"Most everything that the media and the government say about us is bollocks to distract from the fact that they are fucking horrible people who are screwing the entire country. "Never mind that the tories have stolen billions of pounds during the pandemic, look over there, a transwoman attempting to go for a piss in private, lynch her because she is really a man that is stealing all the gold medals". There's a tiny number of us, we're just trying to get on with our lives, and we are getting really really sick of all the cunts that are spouting shit about us all the time. It's a drip drip drip every single day of our lives. Please just stop it everybody. If you listen to yourselves, you're using the same words as Putin; when you find yourselves on the same side as a genocidal dictator, you ought to know that you are wrong. To all who are offended by this, because you recognise yourselves in my words, not sorry at all. Those who I'm not talking about, I know that you won't be offended, because you will recognise the truth of what I say. Oh yeah, and "woke" to all of you. Peace and love everyone, Polly. Stop demanding access to women's sports, changing rooms, prisons etc & you won't get the backlash. " We don't. All we request is that the existing law on these matters is fairly applied. All the shit stirring is done by the big money and evil intent behind the gender crits. | |||
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"Most everything that the media and the government say about us is bollocks to distract from the fact that they are fucking horrible people who are screwing the entire country. "Never mind that the tories have stolen billions of pounds during the pandemic, look over there, a transwoman attempting to go for a piss in private, lynch her because she is really a man that is stealing all the gold medals". There's a tiny number of us, we're just trying to get on with our lives, and we are getting really really sick of all the cunts that are spouting shit about us all the time. It's a drip drip drip every single day of our lives. Please just stop it everybody. If you listen to yourselves, you're using the same words as Putin; when you find yourselves on the same side as a genocidal dictator, you ought to know that you are wrong. To all who are offended by this, because you recognise yourselves in my words, not sorry at all. Those who I'm not talking about, I know that you won't be offended, because you will recognise the truth of what I say. Oh yeah, and "woke" to all of you. Peace and love everyone, Polly. Stop demanding access to women's sports, changing rooms, prisons etc & you won't get the backlash. We don't. All we request is that the existing law on these matters is fairly applied. All the shit stirring is done by the big money and evil intent behind the gender crits." "We don't',is simply untrue. That is EXACTLY the reason there is a justified backlash as that IS what the extremist trans lobby are demanding | |||
"Most everything that the media and the government say about us is bollocks to distract from the fact that they are fucking horrible people who are screwing the entire country. "Never mind that the tories have stolen billions of pounds during the pandemic, look over there, a transwoman attempting to go for a piss in private, lynch her because she is really a man that is stealing all the gold medals". There's a tiny number of us, we're just trying to get on with our lives, and we are getting really really sick of all the cunts that are spouting shit about us all the time. It's a drip drip drip every single day of our lives. Please just stop it everybody. If you listen to yourselves, you're using the same words as Putin; when you find yourselves on the same side as a genocidal dictator, you ought to know that you are wrong. To all who are offended by this, because you recognise yourselves in my words, not sorry at all. Those who I'm not talking about, I know that you won't be offended, because you will recognise the truth of what I say. Oh yeah, and "woke" to all of you. Peace and love everyone, Polly. Stop demanding access to women's sports, changing rooms, prisons etc & you won't get the backlash. We don't. All we request is that the existing law on these matters is fairly applied. All the shit stirring is done by the big money and evil intent behind the gender crits. "We don't',is simply untrue. That is EXACTLY the reason there is a justified backlash as that IS what the extremist trans lobby are demanding " judging a group by it's extreme elements doesn't feel fair. | |||
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