Makes my blood boil that whole situation an poor harry and his family still have no justice ... I hope the British government or whatever entity has helped pressurise and secure the release of nazannin ratcliffe can get involved and get justice..and extradite that evil bitch from the US |
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By *estivalMan
over a year ago
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"Makes my blood boil that whole situation an poor harry and his family still have no justice ... I hope the British government or whatever entity has helped pressurise and secure the release of nazannin ratcliffe can get involved and get justice..and extradite that evil bitch from the US "
never gonna happen they dont hand there own over to other countrys
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"Makes my blood boil that whole situation an poor harry and his family still have no justice ... I hope the British government or whatever entity has helped pressurise and secure the release of nazannin ratcliffe can get involved and get justice..and extradite that evil bitch from the US never gonna happen they dont hand there own over to other countrys"
I never thought ratcliffe would be released by the Iranians.. |
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"Makes my blood boil that whole situation an poor harry and his family still have no justice ... I hope the British government or whatever entity has helped pressurise and secure the release of nazannin ratcliffe can get involved and get justice..and extradite that evil bitch from the US never gonna happen they dont hand there own over to other countrys"
Your right they don't, but they want other countries to hand people over!
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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago
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"Makes my blood boil that whole situation an poor harry and his family still have no justice ... I hope the British government or whatever entity has helped pressurise and secure the release of nazannin ratcliffe can get involved and get justice..and extradite that evil bitch from the US never gonna happen they dont hand there own over to other countrys
I never thought ratcliffe would be released by the Iranians.. "
She, and the others are nothing more than a bargaining chip against £450m we stole.
Now it's been paid back, they'll all be released. The only concern I have, they paid it all up-front?
Surely 50 up front /50 on delivery would have been a safer option.
They only wanted the refund they were entitled to. We cancelled an order for tanks and kept the money.
We should have cancelled and refunded to prevent any of this.
Boris's big mouth also wasn't helpful.
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This is the Harry Dunn issue? Personally I don't understand why the US will not extradite the woman concerned. I think it's disgraceful that such close allies cannot find a way to co-operate. If it were the other way round...??? |
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"This is the Harry Dunn issue? Personally I don't understand why the US will not extradite the woman concerned. I think it's disgraceful that such close allies cannot find a way to co-operate. If it were the other way round...???"
They're not your allies - they're your masters.
And they know it. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"Makes my blood boil that whole situation an poor harry and his family still have no justice ... I hope the British government or whatever entity has helped pressurise and secure the release of nazannin ratcliffe can get involved and get justice..and extradite that evil bitch from the US "
The reason for this is to maintain the immunity from prosecution of diplomatic staff and their families, without exception.
As soon as exceptions are made then anything could be defined as such and the principal is lost. This is to prevent diplomats and families being threatened with the possibility of trumped-up charges being imposed for political reasons.
The UK government or any other would do exactly the same thing.
Do you not think that it is going a bit far describing her as an "evil bitch"? Are accidental road deaths murder or do you think that her intention was to deliberately kill a motorcyclist? |
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By *amish SMan
over a year ago
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She commited an offence in this country which would be prosecutable had the accident happened in the US. Her alleged diplomatic immunity should not be an issue as to regards prosecution or prevent her returning to the UK for trial. |
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"Makes my blood boil that whole situation an poor harry and his family still have no justice ... I hope the British government or whatever entity has helped pressurise and secure the release of nazannin ratcliffe can get involved and get justice..and extradite that evil bitch from the US
The reason for this is to maintain the immunity from prosecution of diplomatic staff and their families, without exception.
As soon as exceptions are made then anything could be defined as such and the principal is lost. This is to prevent diplomats and families being threatened with the possibility of trumped-up charges being imposed for political reasons.
The UK government or any other would do exactly the same thing.
Do you not think that it is going a bit far describing her as an "evil bitch"? Are accidental road deaths murder or do you think that her intention was to deliberately kill a motorcyclist?"
Agreed but an innocent person doesn't run and hide behind diplomatic immunity. |
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By *9alMan
over a year ago
Bridgend |
"This is the Harry Dunn issue? Personally I don't understand why the US will not extradite the woman concerned. I think it's disgraceful that such close allies cannot find a way to co-operate. If it were the other way round...???"
Hopefully the police will remand in custody any American involved in a serious road accident |
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By *estivalMan
over a year ago
borehamwood |
"Makes my blood boil that whole situation an poor harry and his family still have no justice ... I hope the British government or whatever entity has helped pressurise and secure the release of nazannin ratcliffe can get involved and get justice..and extradite that evil bitch from the US never gonna happen they dont hand there own over to other countrys
I never thought ratcliffe would be released by the Iranians.. "
we dont owe the u.s 450 million so we cant pay it off to get her into a u.k court, the iranians on the other hand we do owe money to, now thats being paid they will hand over uk citizens |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Makes my blood boil that whole situation an poor harry and his family still have no justice ... I hope the British government or whatever entity has helped pressurise and secure the release of nazannin ratcliffe can get involved and get justice..and extradite that evil bitch from the US
The reason for this is to maintain the immunity from prosecution of diplomatic staff and their families, without exception.
As soon as exceptions are made then anything could be defined as such and the principal is lost. This is to prevent diplomats and families being threatened with the possibility of trumped-up charges being imposed for political reasons.
The UK government or any other would do exactly the same thing.
Do you not think that it is going a bit far describing her as an "evil bitch"? Are accidental road deaths murder or do you think that her intention was to deliberately kill a motorcyclist?"
Tony Baldry who signed immunity deal at RAF Croughton in 1995, says it applied to staff, not dependants |
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"Makes my blood boil that whole situation an poor harry and his family still have no justice ... I hope the British government or whatever entity has helped pressurise and secure the release of nazannin ratcliffe can get involved and get justice..and extradite that evil bitch from the US
The reason for this is to maintain the immunity from prosecution of diplomatic staff and their families, without exception.
As soon as exceptions are made then anything could be defined as such and the principal is lost. This is to prevent diplomats and families being threatened with the possibility of trumped-up charges being imposed for political reasons.
The UK government or any other would do exactly the same thing.
Do you not think that it is going a bit far describing her as an "evil bitch"? Are accidental road deaths murder or do you think that her intention was to deliberately kill a motorcyclist?
Agreed but an innocent person doesn't run and hide behind diplomatic immunity."
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"This is the Harry Dunn issue? Personally I don't understand why the US will not extradite the woman concerned. I think it's disgraceful that such close allies cannot find a way to co-operate. If it were the other way round...???
They're not your allies - they're your masters.
And they know it."
Good grief |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"This is the Harry Dunn issue? Personally I don't understand why the US will not extradite the woman concerned. I think it's disgraceful that such close allies cannot find a way to co-operate. If it were the other way round...???
They're not your allies - they're your masters.
And they know it."
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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago
Bristol |
"This is the Harry Dunn issue? Personally I don't understand why the US will not extradite the woman concerned. I think it's disgraceful that such close allies cannot find a way to co-operate. If it were the other way round...???
They're not your allies - they're your masters.
And they know it."
There’s always one |
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"This is the Harry Dunn issue? Personally I don't understand why the US will not extradite the woman concerned. I think it's disgraceful that such close allies cannot find a way to co-operate. If it were the other way round...???
They're not your allies - they're your masters.
And they know it."
Always been a one way ‘special relationship’. Where’s Hugh Grant when we need him? |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"She commited an offence in this country which would be prosecutable had the accident happened in the US. Her alleged diplomatic immunity should not be an issue as to regards prosecution or prevent her returning to the UK for trial. "
It's not "alleged" it is diplomatic immunity. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"Makes my blood boil that whole situation an poor harry and his family still have no justice ... I hope the British government or whatever entity has helped pressurise and secure the release of nazannin ratcliffe can get involved and get justice..and extradite that evil bitch from the US
The reason for this is to maintain the immunity from prosecution of diplomatic staff and their families, without exception.
As soon as exceptions are made then anything could be defined as such and the principal is lost. This is to prevent diplomats and families being threatened with the possibility of trumped-up charges being imposed for political reasons.
The UK government or any other would do exactly the same thing.
Do you not think that it is going a bit far describing her as an "evil bitch"? Are accidental road deaths murder or do you think that her intention was to deliberately kill a motorcyclist?
Agreed but an innocent person doesn't run and hide behind diplomatic immunity."
Innocent or not, it doesn't matter. It's not something that will be countenanced by any state as it changes the status quo in a manner that allows this to become a political tool. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"This is the Harry Dunn issue? Personally I don't understand why the US will not extradite the woman concerned. I think it's disgraceful that such close allies cannot find a way to co-operate. If it were the other way round...???
They're not your allies - they're your masters.
And they know it.
Always been a one way ‘special relationship’. Where’s Hugh Grant when we need him? "
This is true. As our lopsided extradition treaty with the US demonstrates.
This has nothing to do with the diplomatic principle here though. |
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