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"You may already be aware that Gas and Electricity are going up 54% on April 1st. There is also another CAP rise review due in October was widely expected to be 20% (if the markets return to normality over Spring and Summer). This is unlikely and now looking like another 50% hike on prices is coming in October as well. This effectively means: £1277 - Current £1971 - April £3238 - October (suggested). I've just found for a family member, a Two year fixed deal with no exit fees based on a rate between current and post April rise making it immune to the October 22, April 23 and October 23 rises. If you stick to the cap as Martin Lewis suggests, you are exposed to a £1000 rise October. Should by any remote chance it does drop significantly, there are no exit fees to leave the deal and sign up for another.. " This needs to be taken with a bit of caution…. The 3000 energy cap figures came from an expert in the gas/oil sector at investec… in which he said “if” the price of oil was to stick around the 105 dollar mark then he would expect the energy cap figure to be as high as that… | |||
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"Ornwe could frack our own gas and to hell with the rest of them " Then be dependent on other companies who will probably jack our prices up and charge us an arm and a leg for the fuel, Brits want freedom! From high prices, Solar panels makes you a producer, the more people get it the more energy we make and we can sell to other countries. I am sure those who support freedom would be onboard with that. | |||
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"Solar panels only work in the daytime, who’s going to pay for all of this green tech ? The ordinary working person can’t afford it as it takes about 10 years to get the money back and by that time things changed and you have saved nothing " Well actually, panels are getting cheaper, and the break even point has dropped, but people forget the product is getting cheaper, and in easy reach us working people now, as soon as the panel are installed your monthly bill reduces automatically. Like moneysavingexpert says, do your most energy intensive stuff during the day with solar panels, because it would be cheaper. E.g, slow cooking, washing, drying etc. etc. Even on dull days you are getting some energy. I hear people harp on about freedom! Well here it is, getting from under the boot of those energy companies and foreign energy suppliers who could embargo us and make ordinary Brits suffer. | |||
"Solar panels only work in the daytime, who’s going to pay for all of this green tech ? The ordinary working person can’t afford it as it takes about 10 years to get the money back and by that time things changed and you have saved nothing Well actually, panels are getting cheaper, and the break even point has dropped, but people forget the product is getting cheaper, and in easy reach us working people now, as soon as the panel are installed your monthly bill reduces automatically. Like moneysavingexpert says, do your most energy intensive stuff during the day with solar panels, because it would be cheaper. E.g, slow cooking, washing, drying etc. etc. Even on dull days you are getting some energy. I hear people harp on about freedom! Well here it is, getting from under the boot of those energy companies and foreign energy suppliers who could embargo us and make ordinary Brits suffer." When people first started going solar there were no EV’s & no storage battery systems so you used what was being generated or fed it into the grid for which you got a good price. Now though you can feed your energy to storage batteries or charge your EV with them which makes much more sense than giving it to the grid while they give you about 5ppkw. The more electricity goes up the quicker the payback on a system. Seen some for around £8k fitted (although ours would need more panels as not an optimum location) & as we would possibly be a household paying £4kpy worst case scenario for our electricity means that to us with an EV chucked into the mix as well it’s a bit of a no brainier. You are then also insured against any future price rises, sure they may go down once all this mess is over but they will not be lower than before it all started will they? & any future price rises once your system is up & running just reduces your payback time even more. S | |||
"I did the same with a big 6 company. Currently paying about 20% more than the current cap. By April I will be well under the new cap....I'm fixed until December 2023.... What happens by then is anyone's guess...." I spent 4 hours trying to explain to an elderly relative today that paying an extra £100 this year will give her a contract that will potentially save her £750 next year, so a saving of £650 over the 24 months. | |||
"And the companies will go bust and your back to square one. They aren't going to sell it at a huge loss, they can't." Scottish Power and EDF have a privilege position that they have extensively built Nuclear, Hydro and Wind. Wind and Hydro carry very small generation costs and as the guy said to me today, they are loosing shed loads on Gas, but being offset by very cheap electricity generation, so on balance they remain viable. The smaller companies didn't have a 'built in' safety feature and lost the fight.. There's a big margin in renewables available at 36p/kw.. | |||
"Solar panels only work in the daytime, who’s going to pay for all of this green tech ? The ordinary working person can’t afford it as it takes about 10 years to get the money back and by that time things changed and you have saved nothing Well actually, panels are getting cheaper, and the break even point has dropped, but people forget the product is getting cheaper, and in easy reach us working people now, as soon as the panel are installed your monthly bill reduces automatically. Like moneysavingexpert says, do your most energy intensive stuff during the day with solar panels, because it would be cheaper. E.g, slow cooking, washing, drying etc. etc. Even on dull days you are getting some energy. I hear people harp on about freedom! Well here it is, getting from under the boot of those energy companies and foreign energy suppliers who could embargo us and make ordinary Brits suffer. When people first started going solar there were no EV’s & no storage battery systems so you used what was being generated or fed it into the grid for which you got a good price. Now though you can feed your energy to storage batteries or charge your EV with them which makes much more sense than giving it to the grid while they give you about 5ppkw. The more electricity goes up the quicker the payback on a system. Seen some for around £8k fitted (although ours would need more panels as not an optimum location) & as we would possibly be a household paying £4kpy worst case scenario for our electricity means that to us with an EV chucked into the mix as well it’s a bit of a no brainier. You are then also insured against any future price rises, sure they may go down once all this mess is over but they will not be lower than before it all started will they? & any future price rises once your system is up & running just reduces your payback time even more. S" I second this. I've had 16kw Lead Acid batteries on a 5kw system for 6 years and it paid for itself based on prices I would have paid for energy last year. The whole system, panels, inverters and batteries cost £4500 with some wheeling and dealing on Facebook and ebay. I am sat here now with Grid import at 0watts. And since second week of February, production has grown each day as the sun lifts higher in the spring sky. Today, run house baseline, 2x 40 degree washes, 1hr tumble dry and 4kw stored into battery giving 10kw at a equivalent cost of £2.60 saved. Yesterday was £1.80. Mid March, it will be back to 25kwh per day rising to 35kwh as mid summer approaches. I have enough excess to heat 200 litres of water per day after mid march, summer is free Air Conditioning of which used as heaters to offset gas usage via boiler. Upgrading to 40kw Lithium batteries and additional panels this Summer and will use night car charging rate to store 7p/kw over night, topped up with Solar. Therefore energy will either be free from Solar or 7p/kw, not the 26p/kw the tariff rate is. As for unaffordable, this is untrue and a travesty the the so called "money saving expert" kept banging on that Solar and Batteries is unviable. Until the 28th of this month, a grant that was available to many via local councils expires which could have paid up to £5000 on the cost of Solar. An EPC certificate is required, so for many, they've lost put on the chance of stepping onto the ladder. Household income less than £30K, you got 75% paid and on benefits, 100% paid towards installation. The scheme closes on 28th February! £3billion was available and little has been claimed and wrong that the Government and Martin Lewis didn't promote it. It is affordable, it is viable and saving me over £1000 per year on gas and electric. An opportunity lost!! | |||
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"Commercial availability for domestic it's a long way off, there are less novel solutions which don't require burning. If anyone who is reading this and: Holds a current EPC Total house income less then £30K Family member claiming a benefit Search for Green Energy Grant. You've just about got time to apply. Either the system is free or £1250 for a £5000 system, and an ideal opportunity to play with Solar and the lifestyle change it makes which is fun in making sure none escapes and you use as much as possible.. Just picked up another 12,000btu Air Conditioner, brand new for £300 and fitting next month. That will boost heating downstairs and cooling in summer. 6 weeks of the year, generation is low but the restoration the year, I usually pay £15/month electric.." I thought the Green Energy Grant closed last year? Can’t find anything that says otherwise. S | |||
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"Commercial availability for domestic it's a long way off, there are less novel solutions which don't require burning. If anyone who is reading this and: Holds a current EPC Total house income less then £30K Family member claiming a benefit Search for Green Energy Grant. You've just about got time to apply. Either the system is free or £1250 for a £5000 system " Meanwhile us tax payers can't afford to go green because we are subsiding those that don't pay tax to go green. Strange old world | |||
"Commercial availability for domestic it's a long way off, there are less novel solutions which don't require burning. If anyone who is reading this and: Holds a current EPC Total house income less then £30K Family member claiming a benefit Search for Green Energy Grant. You've just about got time to apply. Either the system is free or £1250 for a £5000 system, and an ideal opportunity to play with Solar and the lifestyle change it makes which is fun in making sure none escapes and you use as much as possible.. Just picked up another 12,000btu Air Conditioner, brand new for £300 and fitting next month. That will boost heating downstairs and cooling in summer. 6 weeks of the year, generation is low but the restoration the year, I usually pay £15/month electric.. I thought the Green Energy Grant closed last year? Can’t find anything that says otherwise. S" Search your Local Council for it. It was rebranded in Lancashire as 'Cosy Homes Grant". Remaining funds from Green Home Grant was given to Councils to carry on until end if February. In Lancashire, 4x or 5x Councils set the scheme up as a single entity. | |||
"Commercial availability for domestic it's a long way off, there are less novel solutions which don't require burning. If anyone who is reading this and: Holds a current EPC Total house income less then £30K Family member claiming a benefit Search for Green Energy Grant. You've just about got time to apply. Either the system is free or £1250 for a £5000 system Meanwhile us tax payers can't afford to go green because we are subsiding those that don't pay tax to go green. Strange old world " Is it not like a famine? Don't feed the country, give them seeds and teach them how to grow their own food. Tax payer funding, I'd prefer people in need got subsidising on Solar panels than on the bills themselves. Much more value for money, plus it supports jobs of installers, supply chain with a benefit of impact on Climate Change at the same time. | |||
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"It covers insulation, Solar PV, Solar Thermal, Central Heating, and a lot more. If you are looking for yourselves drop me a line and I'll help you find your version of it. Below is from Cosy Homes Lancashire: CHiL is a partnership of the 15 Local Authorities in Lancashire, offering residents in the region access to free first time central heating, gas connections, affordable heating solutions, energy advice and support on a range of money saving energy measures to help you keep warm and save money. Rhea Projects Ltd manage the CHiL scheme and the Administration Hub on behalf of the Lancashire Local Authorities. The Lancashire Authorities have recently secured Green Homes Grant (Local Authority Delivery element) from Central Government which is available to owner-occupiers and tenants and will cover the cost of larger insulation measures and renewable heating technologies." No doubt there will be another wave of millionaires made out of that 
If local authorities were really that interested they would be doing all this at cost but you can bet the markup will be huge | |||
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"Nothing beats a little negatively.. It's there to find, if councils haven't pushed it then it's a failure on their part. Better than it lining pockets of Russia Billionaires in gas supplies. "Don't hit me with them negative waves so early in the morning. Think the bridge will be there and it will be there. It's a mother, beautiful bridge, and it's gonna be there."" I do wish it was a better world too  | |||
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"Commercial availability for domestic it's a long way off, there are less novel solutions which don't require burning. If anyone who is reading this and: Holds a current EPC Total house income less then £30K Family member claiming a benefit Search for Green Energy Grant. You've just about got time to apply. Either the system is free or £1250 for a £5000 system, and an ideal opportunity to play with Solar and the lifestyle change it makes which is fun in making sure none escapes and you use as much as possible.. Just picked up another 12,000btu Air Conditioner, brand new for £300 and fitting next month. That will boost heating downstairs and cooling in summer. 6 weeks of the year, generation is low but the restoration the year, I usually pay £15/month electric.. I thought the Green Energy Grant closed last year? Can’t find anything that says otherwise. S Search your Local Council for it. It was rebranded in Lancashire as 'Cosy Homes Grant". Remaining funds from Green Home Grant was given to Councils to carry on until end if February. In Lancashire, 4x or 5x Councils set the scheme up as a single entity." Different system in Wales but we did get help with insulation & a new heating system. Unfortunately they are not interested in technology that removes you from the fossil fuel providers, they’ll help you use less oil/gas/grid energy but won’t help you use none. Very limited options offered too. insulation & heating systems that’s it. No heat pumps, solar etc. To the other poster going on about “Tax payers” funding it. My take on it at just short of sixty is that I’ve spent the grand total of six weeks out of work since I was seventeen. For ten or so years from roughly 86-96 I was a higher rate tax payer. However for the last five or so I’ve been working from home doing fewer & fewer hours as my wife’s medical condition gradually worsens & she needs my help more. So just because people qualify for stuff now, never assume it’s always been that way & never assume it’s always out of choice... Looking at my old P60’s they could build me a fully kitted custom disability house or two for what I’ve paid in over the years so if I’m now able to get something back because of some benefit or disability we’ve been hit with you can damn well be sure I’m going to grab it ?? S | |||
"You may already be aware that Gas and Electricity are going up 54% on April 1st. There is also another CAP rise review due in October was widely expected to be 20% (if the markets return to normality over Spring and Summer). This is unlikely and now looking like another 50% hike on prices is coming in October as well. This effectively means: £1277 - Current £1971 - April £3238 - October (suggested). I've just found for a family member, a Two year fixed deal with no exit fees based on a rate between current and post April rise making it immune to the October 22, April 23 and October 23 rises. If you stick to the cap as Martin Lewis suggests, you are exposed to a £1000 rise October. Should by any remote chance it does drop significantly, there are no exit fees to leave the deal and sign up for another.. " When I was a kid growing up in the 60's, I do remember times of the tin bath in front of the fire. Yes, I was well jell of my mates who had posh dads who could afford a semi detached, especially if it had dormer windows. However, if energy price rises means that I'm gonna suffer from ice on the inside of my bedroom window, then I've already been there, done that and even got the T shirt. Hope that helps. | |||
"You may already be aware that Gas and Electricity are going up 54% on April 1st. There is also another CAP rise review due in October was widely expected to be 20% (if the markets return to normality over Spring and Summer). This is unlikely and now looking like another 50% hike on prices is coming in October as well. This effectively means: £1277 - Current £1971 - April £3238 - October (suggested). I've just found for a family member, a Two year fixed deal with no exit fees based on a rate between current and post April rise making it immune to the October 22, April 23 and October 23 rises. If you stick to the cap as Martin Lewis suggests, you are exposed to a £1000 rise October. Should by any remote chance it does drop significantly, there are no exit fees to leave the deal and sign up for another.. When I was a kid growing up in the 60's, I do remember times of the tin bath in front of the fire. Yes, I was well jell of my mates who had posh dads who could afford a semi detached, especially if it had dormer windows. However, if energy price rises means that I'm gonna suffer from ice on the inside of my bedroom window, then I've already been there, done that and even got the T shirt. Hope that helps." me too mate  | |||
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"I purchased heated bed cover from a German box store last Autumn for £14.99, and well worth the investment.. I can switch heating off an hour earlier then dive into a warm or hot bed. 10 watts low, 20 watts med, 50 watts high. I set high on timer for 30 minutes to get toasty, so 25 watts consumption in total. Saves running a 35kw boiler for an hour.. " Have you tried a duvet on the matress there is no need for electric blankets it is like been wrapped up in a duvet get warm in seconds. | |||
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"I cannot understand the low take up Solar, I can only assume a lot listened to Martin Lewis spewing out that Solar isn't worth it as the government won't buy it back.. why sell valuable energy for 4p/kw when it's worth over 32p. Interest rates are low, payback is only a few years at todays rates, it protects from the bulk of future hikes and there is Grants available to those willing to find them. My house nominally uses 10-12kwh per day baseline. I've generated 9kw today, 5kw was used during the day and 4kw went to batteries. It's midnight and still running 100% on batteries which have around another hour capacity left at which point Grid will continue to power the house until 8am. Therefore, import today will be around 3kw - 60p. A saving of £1.80. The days are getting longer meaning more time Solar directly powering the house, batteries are getting deeper charges and there is more surplus for portable heaters and Air Conditioners to run for free heat. None of the system was expensive, I just took the decision to finance it against reduced bills. Anyone can do it by shopping around. In 4 weeks time, I'll see production rise to over 25-35kwh per day when show time starts as free Hot Water and whole house heat starts. December and January is reliance on Grid bit Solar does still contribute." Naa I'm plumbed up to the neighbours through the loft into their upstairs lighting. | |||
"I purchased heated bed cover from a German box store last Autumn for £14.99, and well worth the investment.. I can switch heating off an hour earlier then dive into a warm or hot bed. 10 watts low, 20 watts med, 50 watts high. I set high on timer for 30 minutes to get toasty, so 25 watts consumption in total. Saves running a 35kw boiler for an hour.. Have you tried a duvet on the matress there is no need for electric blankets it is like been wrapped up in a duvet get warm in seconds." I like my heated bed for 0.5p a night. Do like double wrapping my feet.. | |||
"I purchased heated bed cover from a German box store last Autumn for £14.99, and well worth the investment.. I can switch heating off an hour earlier then dive into a warm or hot bed. 10 watts low, 20 watts med, 50 watts high. I set high on timer for 30 minutes to get toasty, so 25 watts consumption in total. Saves running a 35kw boiler for an hour.. Have you tried a duvet on the matress there is no need for electric blankets it is like been wrapped up in a duvet get warm in seconds. I like my heated bed for 0.5p a night. Do like double wrapping my feet.." Is that 5p a night thats a chocolate fredo in 5 days  | |||
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"Hope these sunny days continue.. -9kw used for heating, washing and the House -5kw into batteries for tonight Another £2.80s worth of electricity I won't be paying for.. If anyone sees Martin Lewis, tell him Solar is worth it. Signed another relative to Scottish Power today as 2023-2024 Variable (Do Nothing Capped) rates are looking frightening. I have a quick calc spreadsheet if anyone wants a copy to allow entry of Variable rates, to project next 2yrs potential savings and prices if considering Fixing, which I strongly recommend." Solar only work in the daylight, TEG modules are becoming more popular just over a £ each of ebay connected in series and parallel upto 5 kw from waste heat. | |||
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"And burn endless quantities of wood in the process. I wouldn't say it was sustainable. Best to heat water with the flames and let Solar give the electricity. As for only work in daylight, this is why batteries work. I've stored enough today to get me through to 8am without touching a single firelighter. I think the 14 megawatts my panels have generated since they were installed far outweighs the CO2 emitted in their production. Don't believe everything you read." Do not forget when solar panels pack up eventually they are extremely hard if not impossible to recycle and cost more to recycle than to manufacture, you have a roof of bio waste you will have to deal with. | |||
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"This all depends on what your current usage is now. Eg if your monthly is £70, a 45% increase means something around the £100 mark so makes no sense to sign up to £150-£160" £77 current £124 as up 54% not 45% from April £183 as predicted 50% rise October If another Winter like this then at least another 20% as they'll still have to recoup this year's disaster so being conservative at 20%. £218 - £275 per month for the remaining 12 months but holding the option of being able to leave or change tariff at anytime at no cost. Then standing charge for electricity is going from 23p to 42p per day, an additional £60 per year included above. Comes in at £153 per month. The gamble being £10 per month this year against a possible (more likely) rise of £63 per month from April 23 until contract ending April 24. Although government and media are not being straight with us, claiming only 2% gas comes durect from Russia. While this may be true, there is no mention of Russian gas that comes to us via Ukraine and Nordstream 1 through Germany. So gas prices are not coming down anytime soon. Relative has locked in for two years at £157 per month for two years. The bet is edged against the prices in the final 12 months, not the immediate which is almost levelled out. Even with no further increase after October, at £183, the £157 fixed will become a £200 saved over the contract. | |||
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"Wow.. 2 year contracts signed up for last week have risen to £240 per month from £170. 45p/kw, is a sign of things to come?" Heating oil going the same way, what was £275 in December is £410 today! I bought last week at £365 S | |||
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"Nothing beats a little negatively.. It's there to find, if councils haven't pushed it then it's a failure on their part. Better than it lining pockets of Russia Billionaires in gas supplies. "Don't hit me with them negative waves so early in the morning. Think the bridge will be there and it will be there. It's a mother, beautiful bridge, and it's gonna be there."" Kelly's Heroes reference. Nice. You know it's The Italian Job with tanks, right? Same guy wrote the scripts. As far as energy goes, I pay my gas and electricity bills once a month, on the same day. I minimise my gas use as much as I can - and my electricity is, obviously, fairly stable, month to month. I've been on a low energy use lifestyle for many years - so, my bills are going to go up no matter what I do. Luckily, after this month, I'll be into the six months where I don't use anywhere near as much gas. Can't wait.  | |||
"I'm topped up for around 18 mths on gas and leccy. " Yet, there is a limit on how much you can top up each time, and how much credit your meter can hold. We asked all the big names and they said that usually you can top up between £1 and £49 at a time, while the meter itself can typically hold up to £249 for electricity and £999+ for gas (depending on the meter). So to max the trick, you'd have to pay a few visits to the top-up shop.. | |||
"Nothing beats a little negatively.. It's there to find, if councils haven't pushed it then it's a failure on their part. Better than it lining pockets of Russia Billionaires in gas supplies. "Don't hit me with them negative waves so early in the morning. Think the bridge will be there and it will be there. It's a mother, beautiful bridge, and it's gonna be there." Kelly's Heroes reference. Nice. You know it's The Italian Job with tanks, right? Same guy wrote the scripts. As far as energy goes, I pay my gas and electricity bills once a month, on the same day. I minimise my gas use as much as I can - and my electricity is, obviously, fairly stable, month to month. I've been on a low energy use lifestyle for many years - so, my bills are going to go up no matter what I do. Luckily, after this month, I'll be into the six months where I don't use anywhere near as much gas. Can't wait. "I used to be but in mid summer, I have an issue. Drowning in surplus electricity that even two Air Conditioners running at max can't use. My mates and family come round and complain how feckin cold the house is. Usually 15 degrees and humidity at 40%. I sleep like a baby with electric blanket on!! Fave film, Kelly's Heroes. Reminds me of a December night watching with my dad eating chocolate that was given as a bribe for not pressing charges on a neighbours wife, who'd whacked me over the head with a spade for sledging on her side of the street. October's going to be another 50% shocker.. be ready for it. | |||
"I'm topped up for around 18 mths on gas and leccy. Yet, there is a limit on how much you can top up each time, and how much credit your meter can hold. We asked all the big names and they said that usually you can top up between £1 and £49 at a time, while the meter itself can typically hold up to £249 for electricity and £999+ for gas (depending on the meter). So to max the trick, you'd have to pay a few visits to the top-up shop.."
Look at the diy brake disc oil burner, a saucepan a vented brake disc and a flu, a mate has one, uses used engine oil, which all modern engine oils are clean burn and it kicks out that much heat the flu pipe glows white Hot at full burn he slightly adjusts the height of the flu off the brake disc to regulate the burn he has got it down to half a ltr an hour with plenty of heat he has it covered with 300mm spiral ducting capped at the bottom with the flu going through and reduced at the top with a 200 mm bend flu going through the center so it rotates 360 with teg modules running a blower forcing air into the duct at the bottom out through the bend at the top which is in his garage. | |||
"And the companies will go bust and your back to square one. They aren't going to sell it at a huge loss, they can't." I cancelled all DD when new entrants first put at risk, incurring extra £8 per month per account but letting debt build up at with no interest. Pure went bust and the government moves 2 of my accounts to shell without my instruction. They transfer credits but not debits. Pure settled with me out of court last week for 5% . Shell haven’t been paid a penny yet, they say I owe them £3200 over two accounts and from April it be be approx 6,100 per year over both. I said no thanks, unless it’s free turn it off. I have offered £75 good will gesture on the basis I never agreed to them to supply me and they have no contract or legal means to invoice me I’m in process of switching again. Might look at this fix | |||
"You may already be aware that Gas and Electricity are going up 54% on April 1st. There is also another CAP rise review due in October was widely expected to be 20% (if the markets return to normality over Spring and Summer). This is unlikely and now looking like another 50% hike on prices is coming in October as well. This effectively means: £1277 - Current £1971 - April £3238 - October (suggested). I've just found for a family member, a Two year fixed deal with no exit fees based on a rate between current and post April rise making it immune to the October 22, April 23 and October 23 rises. If you stick to the cap as Martin Lewis suggests, you are exposed to a £1000 rise October. Should by any remote chance it does drop significantly, there are no exit fees to leave the deal and sign up for another.. This needs to be taken with a bit of caution…. The 3000 energy cap figures came from an expert in the gas/oil sector at investec… in which he said “if” the price of oil was to stick around the 105 dollar mark then he would expect the energy cap figure to be as high as that…" $125 conservative estimates, I wouldn’t be surprised to see it at $150 in the coming months. About 6 days of production as reserves have been released it’s tiny. This isn’t our problem to solve , cancel your DD’s keep your money in Atom or Marcus until they actually set a date for county court action, they won’t do it, throw they the occasional £20 and say it’s all you have | |||
"Nothing beats a little negatively.. It's there to find, if councils haven't pushed it then it's a failure on their part. Better than it lining pockets of Russia Billionaires in gas supplies. "Don't hit me with them negative waves so early in the morning. Think the bridge will be there and it will be there. It's a mother, beautiful bridge, and it's gonna be there." Kelly's Heroes reference. Nice. You know it's The Italian Job with tanks, right? Same guy wrote the scripts. As far as energy goes, I pay my gas and electricity bills once a month, on the same day. I minimise my gas use as much as I can - and my electricity is, obviously, fairly stable, month to month. I've been on a low energy use lifestyle for many years - so, my bills are going to go up no matter what I do. Luckily, after this month, I'll be into the six months where I don't use anywhere near as much gas. Can't wait.
I used to be but in mid summer, I have an issue. Drowning in surplus electricity that even two Air Conditioners running at max can't use. My mates and family come round and complain how feckin cold the house is. Usually 15 degrees and humidity at 40%. I sleep like a baby with electric blanket on!!
Fave film, Kelly's Heroes. Reminds me of a December night watching with my dad eating chocolate that was given as a bribe for not pressing charges on a neighbours wife, who'd whacked me over the head with a spade for sledging on her side of the street.
October's going to be another 50% shocker.. be ready for it."Well, that's going to be a right cunt, then. Got my letter from my energy supplier today, with the details of how my bills will be increasing. Applied the new charges to my last bill - double checked my maths - and it's an increase of 38% for the total paid. Basically, I'll never have a bill of less than £100/month again. Maybe, in the summer, if I wash myself and my clothes in the river nearby. Another 50% on top of that, heading into our next winter? Fuuuuuuucckk! And, as I always say - I only have me to worry about. How the fuck are poor people with kids and/or elderly relatives to care for going to cope? P.S. Kelly's Heroes - my favourite bit has always been the paint shell moment. | |||
"I'm topped up for around 18 mths on gas and leccy. Yet, there is a limit on how much you can top up each time, and how much credit your meter can hold. We asked all the big names and they said that usually you can top up between £1 and £49 at a time, while the meter itself can typically hold up to £249 for electricity and £999+ for gas (depending on the meter). So to max the trick, you'd have to pay a few visits to the top-up shop..
Look at the diy brake disc oil burner, a saucepan a vented brake disc and a flu, a mate has one, uses used engine oil, which all modern engine oils are clean burn and it kicks out that much heat the flu pipe glows white Hot at full burn he slightly adjusts the height of the flu off the brake disc to regulate the burn he has got it down to half a ltr an hour with plenty of heat he has it covered with 300mm spiral ducting capped at the bottom with the flu going through and reduced at the top with a 200 mm bend flu going through the center so it rotates 360 with teg modules running a blower forcing air into the duct at the bottom out through the bend at the top which is in his garage."The one small problem with that is .... Oil is oil and it's expensive, you can only drain your car engine once and you have to buy more lol | |||
"I'm topped up for around 18 mths on gas and leccy. Yet, there is a limit on how much you can top up each time, and how much credit your meter can hold. We asked all the big names and they said that usually you can top up between £1 and £49 at a time, while the meter itself can typically hold up to £249 for electricity and £999+ for gas (depending on the meter). So to max the trick, you'd have to pay a few visits to the top-up shop..
Look at the diy brake disc oil burner, a saucepan a vented brake disc and a flu, a mate has one, uses used engine oil, which all modern engine oils are clean burn and it kicks out that much heat the flu pipe glows white Hot at full burn he slightly adjusts the height of the flu off the brake disc to regulate the burn he has got it down to half a ltr an hour with plenty of heat he has it covered with 300mm spiral ducting capped at the bottom with the flu going through and reduced at the top with a 200 mm bend flu going through the center so it rotates 360 with teg modules running a blower forcing air into the duct at the bottom out through the bend at the top which is in his garage.
The one small problem with that is ....
Oil is oil and it's expensive, you can only drain your car engine once and you have to buy more lol"Your local neighbourhood garage will give it you for nothing. | |||
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"Wow.. 2 year contracts signed up for last week have risen to £240 per month from £170. 45p/kw, is a sign of things to come? Heating oil going the same way, what was £275 in December is £410 today! I bought last week at £365 S" Not quite energy saving but can save money, for those who lived through the blackouts of the 70s, Mr Johnson suggest this might be whats coming. This is a good time to consider battery storage, especially if you have Solar or an EV although not necessary. The EV tariff means you can charge home batteries at 7p/kw and use it the day after against a more expensive rate. If you've also got Solar, charge them for free either, costs can be recovered over a few years. If gas is shut off from Russia, then it is certain they'll be rationing of the Grid electric at peak periods. I'm upgrading from 10kw to 30kw or 40kw when they get here in a couple of weeks to cover extended mains outage. Something to think about.. | |||
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"Or top up your pre pay meters. "Yup. I have one - I listened to Martin whatsit. Before 31st March I’ll be topping mine up by about £700 if I can. Not sure if there’s a limit. I’d basically like to pay for a year’s gas upfront. X | |||
"Or top up your pre pay meters.
Yup. I have one - I listened to Martin whatsit. Before 31st March I’ll be topping mine up by about £700 if I can. Not sure if there’s a limit. I’d basically like to pay for a year’s gas upfront. X"Gas upto a grand on some and around 250 on the leccy, I posted about topping up pre pay meters weeks ago Martin got it from here. | |||
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"You may already be aware that Gas and Electricity are going up 54% on April 1st. There is also another CAP rise review due in October was widely expected to be 20% (if the markets return to normality over Spring and Summer). This is unlikely and now looking like another 50% hike on prices is coming in October as well. This effectively means: £1277 - Current £1971 - April £3238 - October (suggested). I've just found for a family member, a Two year fixed deal with no exit fees based on a rate between current and post April rise making it immune to the October 22, April 23 and October 23 rises. If you stick to the cap as Martin Lewis suggests, you are exposed to a £1000 rise October. Should by any remote chance it does drop significantly, there are no exit fees to leave the deal and sign up for another.. This needs to be taken with a bit of caution…. The 3000 energy cap figures came from an expert in the gas/oil sector at investec… in which he said “if” the price of oil was to stick around the 105 dollar mark then he would expect the energy cap figure to be as high as that…" 6 months later, that was a very big 'if'.. Did anyone fix when I suggested it? | |||
"You may already be aware that Gas and Electricity are going up 54% on April 1st. There is also another CAP rise review due in October was widely expected to be 20% (if the markets return to normality over Spring and Summer). This is unlikely and now looking like another 50% hike on prices is coming in October as well. This effectively means: £1277 - Current £1971 - April £3238 - October (suggested). I've just found for a family member, a Two year fixed deal with no exit fees based on a rate between current and post April rise making it immune to the October 22, April 23 and October 23 rises. If you stick to the cap as Martin Lewis suggests, you are exposed to a £1000 rise October. Should by any remote chance it does drop significantly, there are no exit fees to leave the deal and sign up for another.. This needs to be taken with a bit of caution…. The 3000 energy cap figures came from an expert in the gas/oil sector at investec… in which he said “if” the price of oil was to stick around the 105 dollar mark then he would expect the energy cap figure to be as high as that… 6 months later, that was a very big 'if'.. Did anyone fix when I suggested it?" Fancy running the country because either of the 2 about to become PM are clueless. Wish I'd seen your advice. Any chance you could pm me about Solar. Googled and it's a total minefield for a newbie. No worries if you can't as no doubt you're inundated with shouts of "help" | |||
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"I'll drop you a message and give advice if it helps. Is your man filter off? As for government, no time nor inclination. I'm too busy selling 10kwh and 14kwh batteries to help people prepare for power cuts and ZERO their electricity import for 10 months of the year at the same time. I've written twice to our numpty of a Energy Secretary with no reply to advise that due to lazy gas engineers, 90% of boilers are using 20-25% more gas than they should if set up correctly. If anyone is reading this with a Condensing Gas Boiler- ensure the Heat Output matches the size of your property. This is nothing to do with the Flow temperatures or radiator balancing wittered on about in the media. This is a 25kwh to 36kwh Gas boiler set incorrectly to give its near maximum output to heating. Quick guide: Flat = 5kwh to 6kwh One or two bed = 8kwh to 11kwh Three or four bed = 11kwh to 14kwh Large property, heat loss calculation recommended. It is estimated 90% of 20 million gas boilers are burning at too high a rate and wasting gas. I had mine set from 34kwh output on heating to 12kwh and it uses 22% less gas. Takes a few minutes longer to warm up but no cycling of Boiler as it is running very low flame. The only problem, only a Gas Safe engineer should set it. This setting should be legally required under the Benchmark but isn't. " Received...cheers | |||
