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By *ackal1 OP Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
For decades we have been transferring our wealth to China. In recent years we have been enabling Putin to rob his country of millions and suppress democracy there.
Now we have Putin running riot and any sanctions which cause pain to Russia will be compensated by China to stop any real issues for Putin.
Free markets by all means but free markets with dictators in my opinion have brought us to this nightmare. When we will learn to stop our leaders from cosying up to despots around the world?
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"Sounds like your blaming us and we and not them there’s a shock lol
Us? He isn’t blaming me, is he blaming you? "
aw here he is mr everything in the worlds the uk fault lol so who is he blaming then it’s not Russia |
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By *ackal1 OP Couple
over a year ago
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I’m actually blaming me!!
I buy shit from China just like everyone else. I also use the same banking system without ever complaining.
This policy failure is ours to share Tory Labour, liberal and all. |
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"Sounds like your blaming us and we and not them there’s a shock lol
Us? He isn’t blaming me, is he blaming you? aw here he is mr everything in the worlds the uk fault lol so who is he blaming then it’s not Russia "
Like I said, he isn’t blaming me, so why do you think he is blaming you? |
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"I’m actually blaming me!!
I buy shit from China just like everyone else. I also use the same banking system without ever complaining.
This policy failure is ours to share Tory Labour, liberal and all."
you blame you leave me out of it I blame Russia and putin I think most sane people will aswell |
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"Sounds like your blaming us and we and not them there’s a shock lol
Us? He isn’t blaming me, is he blaming you? aw here he is mr everything in the worlds the uk fault lol so who is he blaming then it’s not Russia
Like I said, he isn’t blaming me, so why do you think he is blaming you? "
because I can read |
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By *ackal1 OP Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"I’m actually blaming me!!
I buy shit from China just like everyone else. I also use the same banking system without ever complaining.
This policy failure is ours to share Tory Labour, liberal and all.you blame you leave me out of it I blame Russia and putin I think most sane people will aswell "
So you do t buy anything from China and you bank with a green banking company who have no industrial investments . Interesting.
The democratic west has been lead by profit not morals. This blame isn’t unique to the U.K. , Europe the US equally. We want £2 t shirts and don’t care who’s in charge of the country that’s selling them.
Equally we haven’t cared who’s buying the property in London as long as my semi keeps increasing in value.
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"I’m actually blaming me!!
I buy shit from China just like everyone else. I also use the same banking system without ever complaining.
This policy failure is ours to share Tory Labour, liberal and all.you blame you leave me out of it I blame Russia and putin I think most sane people will aswell
So you do t buy anything from China and you bank with a green banking company who have no industrial investments . Interesting.
The democratic west has been lead by profit not morals. This blame isn’t unique to the U.K. , Europe the US equally. We want £2 t shirts and don’t care who’s in charge of the country that’s selling them.
Equally we haven’t cared who’s buying the property in London as long as my semi keeps increasing in value.
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like I said it’s all our fault what is wrong with you remain squad that look for every Fuck up in the world to be the fault of the U.K. what do you get out of it it’s insane yes shoot me I buy from China and don’t give a thought to who I bank with so putin invading ukrain is all my faul and the U.K. lol classic fab |
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By *ackal1 OP Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"I’m actually blaming me!!
I buy shit from China just like everyone else. I also use the same banking system without ever complaining.
This policy failure is ours to share Tory Labour, liberal and all.you blame you leave me out of it I blame Russia and putin I think most sane people will aswell
So you do t buy anything from China and you bank with a green banking company who have no industrial investments . Interesting.
The democratic west has been lead by profit not morals. This blame isn’t unique to the U.K. , Europe the US equally. We want £2 t shirts and don’t care who’s in charge of the country that’s selling them.
Equally we haven’t cared who’s buying the property in London as long as my semi keeps increasing in value.
like I said it’s all our fault what is wrong with you remain squad that look for every Fuck up in the world to be the fault of the U.K. what do you get out of it it’s insane yes shoot me I buy from China and don’t give a thought to who I bank with so putin invading ukrain is all my faul and the U.K. lol classic fab "
What the fuck has Brexit got to do with my post please explain?? You’re just ranting!!
Do you understand global economics and the funding needed to arm these nutcases?
You turning what I’ve posted into a simplistic response of “he’s a bad guy and not my fault and what’s wrong with you remainers”. is quite simply a ridiculous child like response.
Of course he’s a fucking nutter but look how he got there is what I’m pointing out!
FFS Foxy get a grip and then read and try to understand the original post!
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"I’m actually blaming me!!
I buy shit from China just like everyone else. I also use the same banking system without ever complaining.
This policy failure is ours to share Tory Labour, liberal and all.you blame you leave me out of it I blame Russia and putin I think most sane people will aswell
So you do t buy anything from China and you bank with a green banking company who have no industrial investments . Interesting.
The democratic west has been lead by profit not morals. This blame isn’t unique to the U.K. , Europe the US equally. We want £2 t shirts and don’t care who’s in charge of the country that’s selling them.
Equally we haven’t cared who’s buying the property in London as long as my semi keeps increasing in value.
like I said it’s all our fault what is wrong with you remain squad that look for every Fuck up in the world to be the fault of the U.K. what do you get out of it it’s insane yes shoot me I buy from China and don’t give a thought to who I bank with so putin invading ukrain is all my faul and the U.K. lol classic fab
What the fuck has Brexit got to do with my post please explain?? You’re just ranting!!
Do you understand global economics and the funding needed to arm these nutcases?
You turning what I’ve posted into a simplistic response of “he’s a bad guy and not my fault and what’s wrong with you remainers”. is quite simply a ridiculous child like response.
Of course he’s a fucking nutter but look how he got there is what I’m pointing out!
FFS Foxy get a grip and then read and try to understand the original post!
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He got there by doing away with his opponents and creaming off from oil and gas sales,are you suggesting that the west should not have bought these from russia? |
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"I’m actually blaming me!!
I buy shit from China just like everyone else. I also use the same banking system without ever complaining.
This policy failure is ours to share Tory Labour, liberal and all.you blame you leave me out of it I blame Russia and putin I think most sane people will aswell
So you do t buy anything from China and you bank with a green banking company who have no industrial investments . Interesting.
The democratic west has been lead by profit not morals. This blame isn’t unique to the U.K. , Europe the US equally. We want £2 t shirts and don’t care who’s in charge of the country that’s selling them.
Equally we haven’t cared who’s buying the property in London as long as my semi keeps increasing in value.
like I said it’s all our fault what is wrong with you remain squad that look for every Fuck up in the world to be the fault of the U.K. what do you get out of it it’s insane yes shoot me I buy from China and don’t give a thought to who I bank with so putin invading ukrain is all my faul and the U.K. lol classic fab
What the fuck has Brexit got to do with my post please explain?? You’re just ranting!!
Do you understand global economics and the funding needed to arm these nutcases?
You turning what I’ve posted into a simplistic response of “he’s a bad guy and not my fault and what’s wrong with you remainers”. is quite simply a ridiculous child like response.
Of course he’s a fucking nutter but look how he got there is what I’m pointing out!
FFS Foxy get a grip and then read and try to understand the original post!
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how he got there is nothing to do with the U.K. sorry for mentioning remain but it does always seem to be the same people who get erections by blaming everything on the U.K. buying from China and not care if where I bank asnt put putin in charge of Russia |
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By *ackal1 OP Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"I’m actually blaming me!!
I buy shit from China just like everyone else. I also use the same banking system without ever complaining.
This policy failure is ours to share Tory Labour, liberal and all.you blame you leave me out of it I blame Russia and putin I think most sane people will aswell
So you do t buy anything from China and you bank with a green banking company who have no industrial investments . Interesting.
The democratic west has been lead by profit not morals. This blame isn’t unique to the U.K. , Europe the US equally. We want £2 t shirts and don’t care who’s in charge of the country that’s selling them.
Equally we haven’t cared who’s buying the property in London as long as my semi keeps increasing in value.
like I said it’s all our fault what is wrong with you remain squad that look for every Fuck up in the world to be the fault of the U.K. what do you get out of it it’s insane yes shoot me I buy from China and don’t give a thought to who I bank with so putin invading ukrain is all my faul and the U.K. lol classic fab
What the fuck has Brexit got to do with my post please explain?? You’re just ranting!!
Do you understand global economics and the funding needed to arm these nutcases?
You turning what I’ve posted into a simplistic response of “he’s a bad guy and not my fault and what’s wrong with you remainers”. is quite simply a ridiculous child like response.
Of course he’s a fucking nutter but look how he got there is what I’m pointing out!
FFS Foxy get a grip and then read and try to understand the original post!
how he got there is nothing to do with the U.K. sorry for mentioning remain but it does always seem to be the same people who get erections by blaming everything on the U.K. buying from China and not care if where I bank asnt put putin in charge of Russia "
So our banking system and great swathes of London prime property is nothing to do with us and “if” he’s baled out financially by China after we gave them our manufacturing wealth that’s nothing to do with the west either??
Costa you know full well our policy of cheap at any cost has come home to haunt us.
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By *ackal1 OP Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"I’m actually blaming me!!
I buy shit from China just like everyone else. I also use the same banking system without ever complaining.
This policy failure is ours to share Tory Labour, liberal and all.you blame you leave me out of it I blame Russia and putin I think most sane people will aswell
So you do t buy anything from China and you bank with a green banking company who have no industrial investments . Interesting.
The democratic west has been lead by profit not morals. This blame isn’t unique to the U.K. , Europe the US equally. We want £2 t shirts and don’t care who’s in charge of the country that’s selling them.
Equally we haven’t cared who’s buying the property in London as long as my semi keeps increasing in value.
like I said it’s all our fault what is wrong with you remain squad that look for every Fuck up in the world to be the fault of the U.K. what do you get out of it it’s insane yes shoot me I buy from China and don’t give a thought to who I bank with so putin invading ukrain is all my faul and the U.K. lol classic fab
What the fuck has Brexit got to do with my post please explain?? You’re just ranting!!
Do you understand global economics and the funding needed to arm these nutcases?
You turning what I’ve posted into a simplistic response of “he’s a bad guy and not my fault and what’s wrong with you remainers”. is quite simply a ridiculous child like response.
Of course he’s a fucking nutter but look how he got there is what I’m pointing out!
FFS Foxy get a grip and then read and try to understand the original post!
He got there by doing away with his opponents and creaming off from oil and gas sales,are you suggesting that the west should not have bought these from russia?"
Indeed snd I said he’s a nutter snd violent thug.
Where’s his wealth kept? |
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"I’m actually blaming me!!
I buy shit from China just like everyone else. I also use the same banking system without ever complaining.
This policy failure is ours to share Tory Labour, liberal and all.you blame you leave me out of it I blame Russia and putin I think most sane people will aswell
So you do t buy anything from China and you bank with a green banking company who have no industrial investments . Interesting.
The democratic west has been lead by profit not morals. This blame isn’t unique to the U.K. , Europe the US equally. We want £2 t shirts and don’t care who’s in charge of the country that’s selling them.
Equally we haven’t cared who’s buying the property in London as long as my semi keeps increasing in value.
like I said it’s all our fault what is wrong with you remain squad that look for every Fuck up in the world to be the fault of the U.K. what do you get out of it it’s insane yes shoot me I buy from China and don’t give a thought to who I bank with so putin invading ukrain is all my faul and the U.K. lol classic fab
What the fuck has Brexit got to do with my post please explain?? You’re just ranting!!
Do you understand global economics and the funding needed to arm these nutcases?
You turning what I’ve posted into a simplistic response of “he’s a bad guy and not my fault and what’s wrong with you remainers”. is quite simply a ridiculous child like response.
Of course he’s a fucking nutter but look how he got there is what I’m pointing out!
FFS Foxy get a grip and then read and try to understand the original post!
He got there by doing away with his opponents and creaming off from oil and gas sales,are you suggesting that the west should not have bought these from russia?
Indeed snd I said he’s a nutter snd violent thug.
Where’s his wealth kept? "
all over the world jackal in banks and assets same as most billionaires I’d think |
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By *ackal1 OP Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
Before the next person says I’m getting off on this. I’ve got very close family in the armed forces already being notified of potential so please go and shove those accusations up where the sun doesn’t shine!!
Rude I know but wanted to clarify that point! |
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By *ackal1 OP Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"I’m actually blaming me!!
I buy shit from China just like everyone else. I also use the same banking system without ever complaining.
This policy failure is ours to share Tory Labour, liberal and all.you blame you leave me out of it I blame Russia and putin I think most sane people will aswell
So you do t buy anything from China and you bank with a green banking company who have no industrial investments . Interesting.
The democratic west has been lead by profit not morals. This blame isn’t unique to the U.K. , Europe the US equally. We want £2 t shirts and don’t care who’s in charge of the country that’s selling them.
Equally we haven’t cared who’s buying the property in London as long as my semi keeps increasing in value.
like I said it’s all our fault what is wrong with you remain squad that look for every Fuck up in the world to be the fault of the U.K. what do you get out of it it’s insane yes shoot me I buy from China and don’t give a thought to who I bank with so putin invading ukrain is all my faul and the U.K. lol classic fab
What the fuck has Brexit got to do with my post please explain?? You’re just ranting!!
Do you understand global economics and the funding needed to arm these nutcases?
You turning what I’ve posted into a simplistic response of “he’s a bad guy and not my fault and what’s wrong with you remainers”. is quite simply a ridiculous child like response.
Of course he’s a fucking nutter but look how he got there is what I’m pointing out!
FFS Foxy get a grip and then read and try to understand the original post!
He got there by doing away with his opponents and creaming off from oil and gas sales,are you suggesting that the west should not have bought these from russia?
Indeed snd I said he’s a nutter snd violent thug.
Where’s his wealth kept? all over the world jackal in banks and assets same as most billionaires I’d think "
Yes and read my above post mentioning the west and the banks . Those funds are held mostly by the west and his allies are heavily involved in London. This is a western creation not just the U.K. look at how much real estate he has in London and New York via proxy, |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"I’m actually blaming me!!
I buy shit from China just like everyone else. I also use the same banking system without ever complaining.
This policy failure is ours to share Tory Labour, liberal and all.you blame you leave me out of it I blame Russia and putin I think most sane people will aswell
So you do t buy anything from China and you bank with a green banking company who have no industrial investments . Interesting.
The democratic west has been lead by profit not morals. This blame isn’t unique to the U.K. , Europe the US equally. We want £2 t shirts and don’t care who’s in charge of the country that’s selling them.
Equally we haven’t cared who’s buying the property in London as long as my semi keeps increasing in value.
like I said it’s all our fault what is wrong with you remain squad that look for every Fuck up in the world to be the fault of the U.K. what do you get out of it it’s insane yes shoot me I buy from China and don’t give a thought to who I bank with so putin invading ukrain is all my faul and the U.K. lol classic fab
What the fuck has Brexit got to do with my post please explain?? You’re just ranting!!
Do you understand global economics and the funding needed to arm these nutcases?
You turning what I’ve posted into a simplistic response of “he’s a bad guy and not my fault and what’s wrong with you remainers”. is quite simply a ridiculous child like response.
Of course he’s a fucking nutter but look how he got there is what I’m pointing out!
FFS Foxy get a grip and then read and try to understand the original post!
how he got there is nothing to do with the U.K. sorry for mentioning remain but it does always seem to be the same people who get erections by blaming everything on the U.K. buying from China and not care if where I bank asnt put putin in charge of Russia
So our banking system and great swathes of London prime property is nothing to do with us and “if” he’s baled out financially by China after we gave them our manufacturing wealth that’s nothing to do with the west either??
Costa you know full well our policy of cheap at any cost has come home to haunt us.
"
No i dont agree, china has been a sleeping giant for decades they had the manpower and the poverty to make it work for them yes goods were cheaper but that was because they were so far behind India will be the next one its the way the world works. Do you think that not trading with them would have made them more open to the west or more insular and resentful?.Trade is a good way of keeping peace but you cannot guarantee that some nutter will not rise to the top.To say its the wests fault is totally wrong in my book. |
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"I’m actually blaming me!!
I buy shit from China just like everyone else. I also use the same banking system without ever complaining.
This policy failure is ours to share Tory Labour, liberal and all.you blame you leave me out of it I blame Russia and putin I think most sane people will aswell
So you do t buy anything from China and you bank with a green banking company who have no industrial investments . Interesting.
The democratic west has been lead by profit not morals. This blame isn’t unique to the U.K. , Europe the US equally. We want £2 t shirts and don’t care who’s in charge of the country that’s selling them.
Equally we haven’t cared who’s buying the property in London as long as my semi keeps increasing in value.
like I said it’s all our fault what is wrong with you remain squad that look for every Fuck up in the world to be the fault of the U.K. what do you get out of it it’s insane yes shoot me I buy from China and don’t give a thought to who I bank with so putin invading ukrain is all my faul and the U.K. lol classic fab
What the fuck has Brexit got to do with my post please explain?? You’re just ranting!!
Do you understand global economics and the funding needed to arm these nutcases?
You turning what I’ve posted into a simplistic response of “he’s a bad guy and not my fault and what’s wrong with you remainers”. is quite simply a ridiculous child like response.
Of course he’s a fucking nutter but look how he got there is what I’m pointing out!
FFS Foxy get a grip and then read and try to understand the original post!
how he got there is nothing to do with the U.K. sorry for mentioning remain but it does always seem to be the same people who get erections by blaming everything on the U.K. buying from China and not care if where I bank asnt put putin in charge of Russia
So our banking system and great swathes of London prime property is nothing to do with us and “if” he’s baled out financially by China after we gave them our manufacturing wealth that’s nothing to do with the west either??
Costa you know full well our policy of cheap at any cost has come home to haunt us.
No i dont agree, china has been a sleeping giant for decades they had the manpower and the poverty to make it work for them yes goods were cheaper but that was because they were so far behind India will be the next one its the way the world works. Do you think that not trading with them would have made them more open to the west or more insular and resentful?.Trade is a good way of keeping peace but you cannot guarantee that some nutter will not rise to the top.To say its the wests fault is totally wrong in my book. "
I agree with you costa trade as been going on since beginning of man and so as warmongering loonies like putin |
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"For decades we have been transferring our wealth to China. In recent years we have been enabling Putin to rob his country of millions and suppress democracy there.
Now we have Putin running riot and any sanctions which cause pain to Russia will be compensated by China to stop any real issues for Putin.
Free markets by all means but free markets with dictators in my opinion have brought us to this nightmare. When we will learn to stop our leaders from cosying up to despots around the world?
Arms sales are us !! "
Err our "" leaders lol
are despots also. |
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By *ackal1 OP Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"I’m actually blaming me!!
I buy shit from China just like everyone else. I also use the same banking system without ever complaining.
This policy failure is ours to share Tory Labour, liberal and all.you blame you leave me out of it I blame Russia and putin I think most sane people will aswell
So you do t buy anything from China and you bank with a green banking company who have no industrial investments . Interesting.
The democratic west has been lead by profit not morals. This blame isn’t unique to the U.K. , Europe the US equally. We want £2 t shirts and don’t care who’s in charge of the country that’s selling them.
Equally we haven’t cared who’s buying the property in London as long as my semi keeps increasing in value.
like I said it’s all our fault what is wrong with you remain squad that look for every Fuck up in the world to be the fault of the U.K. what do you get out of it it’s insane yes shoot me I buy from China and don’t give a thought to who I bank with so putin invading ukrain is all my faul and the U.K. lol classic fab
What the fuck has Brexit got to do with my post please explain?? You’re just ranting!!
Do you understand global economics and the funding needed to arm these nutcases?
You turning what I’ve posted into a simplistic response of “he’s a bad guy and not my fault and what’s wrong with you remainers”. is quite simply a ridiculous child like response.
Of course he’s a fucking nutter but look how he got there is what I’m pointing out!
FFS Foxy get a grip and then read and try to understand the original post!
how he got there is nothing to do with the U.K. sorry for mentioning remain but it does always seem to be the same people who get erections by blaming everything on the U.K. buying from China and not care if where I bank asnt put putin in charge of Russia
So our banking system and great swathes of London prime property is nothing to do with us and “if” he’s baled out financially by China after we gave them our manufacturing wealth that’s nothing to do with the west either??
Costa you know full well our policy of cheap at any cost has come home to haunt us.
No i dont agree, china has been a sleeping giant for decades they had the manpower and the poverty to make it work for them yes goods were cheaper but that was because they were so far behind India will be the next one its the way the world works. Do you think that not trading with them would have made them more open to the west or more insular and resentful?.Trade is a good way of keeping peace but you cannot guarantee that some nutter will not rise to the top.To say its the wests fault is totally wrong in my book. "
I think you’re right to a point and we did need to trade and try to help with peace but to just move our wealth so fully to what is in effect a dictatorship was very short sighted.
We have lost our manufacturing and with it our wealth creation . China now has much deeper pockets than us and will soon outstrip the US in defence defending if they chose.
We should have more moral trade which I know is a fantasy but to say yes I’ll take that t shirt at a quid, Wait you use sl4ve labour??? Oh well don’t tell anyone and we will be fine.. Dreaming I know but the principal is there.
Apple employ over a hundred thousand Chinese and their wealth is held offshore so not benefit for the west other than we can buy expensive phones. Were’s the joined up thinking of what’s good for us? A huge amount of their shares are held offshore too.
We make ourselves poorer and others more powerful. The others are in this case Dictators!
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"I’m actually blaming me!!
I buy shit from China just like everyone else. I also use the same banking system without ever complaining.
This policy failure is ours to share Tory Labour, liberal and all.you blame you leave me out of it I blame Russia and putin I think most sane people will aswell
So you do t buy anything from China and you bank with a green banking company who have no industrial investments . Interesting.
The democratic west has been lead by profit not morals. This blame isn’t unique to the U.K. , Europe the US equally. We want £2 t shirts and don’t care who’s in charge of the country that’s selling them.
Equally we haven’t cared who’s buying the property in London as long as my semi keeps increasing in value.
like I said it’s all our fault what is wrong with you remain squad that look for every Fuck up in the world to be the fault of the U.K. what do you get out of it it’s insane yes shoot me I buy from China and don’t give a thought to who I bank with so putin invading ukrain is all my faul and the U.K. lol classic fab
What the fuck has Brexit got to do with my post please explain?? You’re just ranting!!
Do you understand global economics and the funding needed to arm these nutcases?
You turning what I’ve posted into a simplistic response of “he’s a bad guy and not my fault and what’s wrong with you remainers”. is quite simply a ridiculous child like response.
Of course he’s a fucking nutter but look how he got there is what I’m pointing out!
FFS Foxy get a grip and then read and try to understand the original post!
how he got there is nothing to do with the U.K. sorry for mentioning remain but it does always seem to be the same people who get erections by blaming everything on the U.K. buying from China and not care if where I bank asnt put putin in charge of Russia
So our banking system and great swathes of London prime property is nothing to do with us and “if” he’s baled out financially by China after we gave them our manufacturing wealth that’s nothing to do with the west either??
Costa you know full well our policy of cheap at any cost has come home to haunt us.
No i dont agree, china has been a sleeping giant for decades they had the manpower and the poverty to make it work for them yes goods were cheaper but that was because they were so far behind India will be the next one its the way the world works. Do you think that not trading with them would have made them more open to the west or more insular and resentful?.Trade is a good way of keeping peace but you cannot guarantee that some nutter will not rise to the top.To say its the wests fault is totally wrong in my book.
I think you’re right to a point and we did need to trade and try to help with peace but to just move our wealth so fully to what is in effect a dictatorship was very short sighted.
We have lost our manufacturing and with it our wealth creation . China now has much deeper pockets than us and will soon outstrip the US in defence defending if they chose.
We should have more moral trade which I know is a fantasy but to say yes I’ll take that t shirt at a quid, Wait you use sl4ve labour??? Oh well don’t tell anyone and we will be fine.. Dreaming I know but the principal is there.
Apple employ over a hundred thousand Chinese and their wealth is held offshore so not benefit for the west other than we can buy expensive phones. Were’s the joined up thinking of what’s good for us? A huge amount of their shares are held offshore too.
We make ourselves poorer and others more powerful. The others are in this case Dictators!
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As i said before we were always going to lose our manufacturing as the country and people got richer thats how the world works. Poorer nations with poor people will always emerge and as they get richer pay taxes so the country gets richer they then become consumers which in turn leads to another country taking up the manufacturing baton. |
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By *ackal1 OP Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"I’m actually blaming me!!
I buy shit from China just like everyone else. I also use the same banking system without ever complaining.
This policy failure is ours to share Tory Labour, liberal and all.you blame you leave me out of it I blame Russia and putin I think most sane people will aswell
So you do t buy anything from China and you bank with a green banking company who have no industrial investments . Interesting.
The democratic west has been lead by profit not morals. This blame isn’t unique to the U.K. , Europe the US equally. We want £2 t shirts and don’t care who’s in charge of the country that’s selling them.
Equally we haven’t cared who’s buying the property in London as long as my semi keeps increasing in value.
like I said it’s all our fault what is wrong with you remain squad that look for every Fuck up in the world to be the fault of the U.K. what do you get out of it it’s insane yes shoot me I buy from China and don’t give a thought to who I bank with so putin invading ukrain is all my faul and the U.K. lol classic fab
What the fuck has Brexit got to do with my post please explain?? You’re just ranting!!
Do you understand global economics and the funding needed to arm these nutcases?
You turning what I’ve posted into a simplistic response of “he’s a bad guy and not my fault and what’s wrong with you remainers”. is quite simply a ridiculous child like response.
Of course he’s a fucking nutter but look how he got there is what I’m pointing out!
FFS Foxy get a grip and then read and try to understand the original post!
how he got there is nothing to do with the U.K. sorry for mentioning remain but it does always seem to be the same people who get erections by blaming everything on the U.K. buying from China and not care if where I bank asnt put putin in charge of Russia
So our banking system and great swathes of London prime property is nothing to do with us and “if” he’s baled out financially by China after we gave them our manufacturing wealth that’s nothing to do with the west either??
Costa you know full well our policy of cheap at any cost has come home to haunt us.
No i dont agree, china has been a sleeping giant for decades they had the manpower and the poverty to make it work for them yes goods were cheaper but that was because they were so far behind India will be the next one its the way the world works. Do you think that not trading with them would have made them more open to the west or more insular and resentful?.Trade is a good way of keeping peace but you cannot guarantee that some nutter will not rise to the top.To say its the wests fault is totally wrong in my book.
I think you’re right to a point and we did need to trade and try to help with peace but to just move our wealth so fully to what is in effect a dictatorship was very short sighted.
We have lost our manufacturing and with it our wealth creation . China now has much deeper pockets than us and will soon outstrip the US in defence defending if they chose.
We should have more moral trade which I know is a fantasy but to say yes I’ll take that t shirt at a quid, Wait you use sl4ve labour??? Oh well don’t tell anyone and we will be fine.. Dreaming I know but the principal is there.
Apple employ over a hundred thousand Chinese and their wealth is held offshore so not benefit for the west other than we can buy expensive phones. Were’s the joined up thinking of what’s good for us? A huge amount of their shares are held offshore too.
We make ourselves poorer and others more powerful. The others are in this case Dictators!
As i said before we were always going to lose our manufacturing as the country and people got richer thats how the world works. Poorer nations with poor people will always emerge and as they get richer pay taxes so the country gets richer they then become consumers which in turn leads to another country taking up the manufacturing baton. "
Yes i agree. Vietnam is taking Chinese jobs as we speak. There are some jobs moving to Eastern Europe as logistics and the time delays are making Eastern Europe more attractive to supply Western Europe.
However I do think we should have protected our jobs more such as Sheffield steel making as those skills once gone aren’t easily found again. Market protection is screamed as a swear word but China does it and yet will still let them undercut our own country. I’m not a protectionist at any costs but even our MOD outsource manufacturing of basic stuff. Why are we buying testing kits from China still? |
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"I’m actually blaming me!!
I buy shit from China just like everyone else. I also use the same banking system without ever complaining.
This policy failure is ours to share Tory Labour, liberal and all.you blame you leave me out of it I blame Russia and putin I think most sane people will aswell
So you do t buy anything from China and you bank with a green banking company who have no industrial investments . Interesting.
The democratic west has been lead by profit not morals. This blame isn’t unique to the U.K. , Europe the US equally. We want £2 t shirts and don’t care who’s in charge of the country that’s selling them.
Equally we haven’t cared who’s buying the property in London as long as my semi keeps increasing in value.
like I said it’s all our fault what is wrong with you remain squad that look for every Fuck up in the world to be the fault of the U.K. what do you get out of it it’s insane yes shoot me I buy from China and don’t give a thought to who I bank with so putin invading ukrain is all my faul and the U.K. lol classic fab
What the fuck has Brexit got to do with my post please explain?? You’re just ranting!!
Do you understand global economics and the funding needed to arm these nutcases?
You turning what I’ve posted into a simplistic response of “he’s a bad guy and not my fault and what’s wrong with you remainers”. is quite simply a ridiculous child like response.
Of course he’s a fucking nutter but look how he got there is what I’m pointing out!
FFS Foxy get a grip and then read and try to understand the original post!
how he got there is nothing to do with the U.K. sorry for mentioning remain but it does always seem to be the same people who get erections by blaming everything on the U.K. buying from China and not care if where I bank asnt put putin in charge of Russia
So our banking system and great swathes of London prime property is nothing to do with us and “if” he’s baled out financially by China after we gave them our manufacturing wealth that’s nothing to do with the west either??
Costa you know full well our policy of cheap at any cost has come home to haunt us.
No i dont agree, china has been a sleeping giant for decades they had the manpower and the poverty to make it work for them yes goods were cheaper but that was because they were so far behind India will be the next one its the way the world works. Do you think that not trading with them would have made them more open to the west or more insular and resentful?.Trade is a good way of keeping peace but you cannot guarantee that some nutter will not rise to the top.To say its the wests fault is totally wrong in my book.
I think you’re right to a point and we did need to trade and try to help with peace but to just move our wealth so fully to what is in effect a dictatorship was very short sighted.
We have lost our manufacturing and with it our wealth creation . China now has much deeper pockets than us and will soon outstrip the US in defence defending if they chose.
We should have more moral trade which I know is a fantasy but to say yes I’ll take that t shirt at a quid, Wait you use sl4ve labour??? Oh well don’t tell anyone and we will be fine.. Dreaming I know but the principal is there.
Apple employ over a hundred thousand Chinese and their wealth is held offshore so not benefit for the west other than we can buy expensive phones. Were’s the joined up thinking of what’s good for us? A huge amount of their shares are held offshore too.
We make ourselves poorer and others more powerful. The others are in this case Dictators!
As i said before we were always going to lose our manufacturing as the country and people got richer thats how the world works. Poorer nations with poor people will always emerge and as they get richer pay taxes so the country gets richer they then become consumers which in turn leads to another country taking up the manufacturing baton.
Yes i agree. Vietnam is taking Chinese jobs as we speak. There are some jobs moving to Eastern Europe as logistics and the time delays are making Eastern Europe more attractive to supply Western Europe.
However I do think we should have protected our jobs more such as Sheffield steel making as those skills once gone aren’t easily found again. Market protection is screamed as a swear word but China does it and yet will still let them undercut our own country. I’m not a protectionist at any costs but even our MOD outsource manufacturing of basic stuff. Why are we buying testing kits from China still? "
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By *ackal1 OP Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"I’m actually blaming me!!
I buy shit from China just like everyone else. I also use the same banking system without ever complaining.
This policy failure is ours to share Tory Labour, liberal and all.you blame you leave me out of it I blame Russia and putin I think most sane people will aswell
So you do t buy anything from China and you bank with a green banking company who have no industrial investments . Interesting.
The democratic west has been lead by profit not morals. This blame isn’t unique to the U.K. , Europe the US equally. We want £2 t shirts and don’t care who’s in charge of the country that’s selling them.
Equally we haven’t cared who’s buying the property in London as long as my semi keeps increasing in value.
like I said it’s all our fault what is wrong with you remain squad that look for every Fuck up in the world to be the fault of the U.K. what do you get out of it it’s insane yes shoot me I buy from China and don’t give a thought to who I bank with so putin invading ukrain is all my faul and the U.K. lol classic fab
What the fuck has Brexit got to do with my post please explain?? You’re just ranting!!
Do you understand global economics and the funding needed to arm these nutcases?
You turning what I’ve posted into a simplistic response of “he’s a bad guy and not my fault and what’s wrong with you remainers”. is quite simply a ridiculous child like response.
Of course he’s a fucking nutter but look how he got there is what I’m pointing out!
FFS Foxy get a grip and then read and try to understand the original post!
how he got there is nothing to do with the U.K. sorry for mentioning remain but it does always seem to be the same people who get erections by blaming everything on the U.K. buying from China and not care if where I bank asnt put putin in charge of Russia
So our banking system and great swathes of London prime property is nothing to do with us and “if” he’s baled out financially by China after we gave them our manufacturing wealth that’s nothing to do with the west either??
Costa you know full well our policy of cheap at any cost has come home to haunt us.
No i dont agree, china has been a sleeping giant for decades they had the manpower and the poverty to make it work for them yes goods were cheaper but that was because they were so far behind India will be the next one its the way the world works. Do you think that not trading with them would have made them more open to the west or more insular and resentful?.Trade is a good way of keeping peace but you cannot guarantee that some nutter will not rise to the top.To say its the wests fault is totally wrong in my book.
I think you’re right to a point and we did need to trade and try to help with peace but to just move our wealth so fully to what is in effect a dictatorship was very short sighted.
We have lost our manufacturing and with it our wealth creation . China now has much deeper pockets than us and will soon outstrip the US in defence defending if they chose.
We should have more moral trade which I know is a fantasy but to say yes I’ll take that t shirt at a quid, Wait you use sl4ve labour??? Oh well don’t tell anyone and we will be fine.. Dreaming I know but the principal is there.
Apple employ over a hundred thousand Chinese and their wealth is held offshore so not benefit for the west other than we can buy expensive phones. Were’s the joined up thinking of what’s good for us? A huge amount of their shares are held offshore too.
We make ourselves poorer and others more powerful. The others are in this case Dictators!
As i said before we were always going to lose our manufacturing as the country and people got richer thats how the world works. Poorer nations with poor people will always emerge and as they get richer pay taxes so the country gets richer they then become consumers which in turn leads to another country taking up the manufacturing baton.
Yes i agree. Vietnam is taking Chinese jobs as we speak. There are some jobs moving to Eastern Europe as logistics and the time delays are making Eastern Europe more attractive to supply Western Europe.
However I do think we should have protected our jobs more such as Sheffield steel making as those skills once gone aren’t easily found again. Market protection is screamed as a swear word but China does it and yet will still let them undercut our own country. I’m not a protectionist at any costs but even our MOD outsource manufacturing of basic stuff. Why are we buying testing kits from China still? so like me then British jobs for British people I got slaughtered in here for saying that lol"
Yes foxy but you like me and everyone else buys Chinese over U.K.. it’s the Free market way despite the devastation it has caused to industry in this country. |
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"For decades we have been transferring our wealth to China. In recent years we have been enabling Putin to rob his country of millions and suppress democracy there.
Now we have Putin running riot and any sanctions which cause pain to Russia will be compensated by China to stop any real issues for Putin.
Free markets by all means but free markets with dictators in my opinion have brought us to this nightmare. When we will learn to stop our leaders from cosying up to despots around the world?
Arms sales are us !! "
Well considering what has happened today, its the wake up call to realise that unrestrained free markets are not the silver bullet to democratise countries.
Caution is the order now. The stakes are now higher than before. |
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By *ackal1 OP Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"For decades we have been transferring our wealth to China. In recent years we have been enabling Putin to rob his country of millions and suppress democracy there.
Now we have Putin running riot and any sanctions which cause pain to Russia will be compensated by China to stop any real issues for Putin.
Free markets by all means but free markets with dictators in my opinion have brought us to this nightmare. When we will learn to stop our leaders from cosying up to despots around the world?
Arms sales are us !!
Well considering what has happened today, its the wake up call to realise that unrestrained free markets are not the silver bullet to democratise countries.
Caution is the order now. The stakes are now higher than before. "
Indeed, scary times for a lot of people.
Will we learn? I genuinely hope so but think our greed will probably result in the same old outcomes.
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"I’m actually blaming me!!
I buy shit from China just like everyone else. I also use the same banking system without ever complaining.
This policy failure is ours to share Tory Labour, liberal and all.you blame you leave me out of it I blame Russia and putin I think most sane people will aswell
So you do t buy anything from China and you bank with a green banking company who have no industrial investments . Interesting.
The democratic west has been lead by profit not morals. This blame isn’t unique to the U.K. , Europe the US equally. We want £2 t shirts and don’t care who’s in charge of the country that’s selling them.
Equally we haven’t cared who’s buying the property in London as long as my semi keeps increasing in value.
like I said it’s all our fault what is wrong with you remain squad that look for every Fuck up in the world to be the fault of the U.K. what do you get out of it it’s insane yes shoot me I buy from China and don’t give a thought to who I bank with so putin invading ukrain is all my faul and the U.K. lol classic fab
What the fuck has Brexit got to do with my post please explain?? You’re just ranting!!
Do you understand global economics and the funding needed to arm these nutcases?
You turning what I’ve posted into a simplistic response of “he’s a bad guy and not my fault and what’s wrong with you remainers”. is quite simply a ridiculous child like response.
Of course he’s a fucking nutter but look how he got there is what I’m pointing out!
FFS Foxy get a grip and then read and try to understand the original post!
how he got there is nothing to do with the U.K. sorry for mentioning remain but it does always seem to be the same people who get erections by blaming everything on the U.K. buying from China and not care if where I bank asnt put putin in charge of Russia
So our banking system and great swathes of London prime property is nothing to do with us and “if” he’s baled out financially by China after we gave them our manufacturing wealth that’s nothing to do with the west either??
Costa you know full well our policy of cheap at any cost has come home to haunt us.
No i dont agree, china has been a sleeping giant for decades they had the manpower and the poverty to make it work for them yes goods were cheaper but that was because they were so far behind India will be the next one its the way the world works. Do you think that not trading with them would have made them more open to the west or more insular and resentful?.Trade is a good way of keeping peace but you cannot guarantee that some nutter will not rise to the top.To say its the wests fault is totally wrong in my book.
I think you’re right to a point and we did need to trade and try to help with peace but to just move our wealth so fully to what is in effect a dictatorship was very short sighted.
We have lost our manufacturing and with it our wealth creation . China now has much deeper pockets than us and will soon outstrip the US in defence defending if they chose.
We should have more moral trade which I know is a fantasy but to say yes I’ll take that t shirt at a quid, Wait you use sl4ve labour??? Oh well don’t tell anyone and we will be fine.. Dreaming I know but the principal is there.
Apple employ over a hundred thousand Chinese and their wealth is held offshore so not benefit for the west other than we can buy expensive phones. Were’s the joined up thinking of what’s good for us? A huge amount of their shares are held offshore too.
We make ourselves poorer and others more powerful. The others are in this case Dictators!
As i said before we were always going to lose our manufacturing as the country and people got richer thats how the world works. Poorer nations with poor people will always emerge and as they get richer pay taxes so the country gets richer they then become consumers which in turn leads to another country taking up the manufacturing baton.
Yes i agree. Vietnam is taking Chinese jobs as we speak. There are some jobs moving to Eastern Europe as logistics and the time delays are making Eastern Europe more attractive to supply Western Europe.
However I do think we should have protected our jobs more such as Sheffield steel making as those skills once gone aren’t easily found again. Market protection is screamed as a swear word but China does it and yet will still let them undercut our own country. I’m not a protectionist at any costs but even our MOD outsource manufacturing of basic stuff. Why are we buying testing kits from China still? so like me then British jobs for British people I got slaughtered in here for saying that lol
Yes foxy but you like me and everyone else buys Chinese over U.K.. it’s the Free market way despite the devastation it has caused to industry in this country. "
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By *ackal1 OP Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"I’m actually blaming me!!
I buy shit from China just like everyone else. I also use the same banking system without ever complaining.
This policy failure is ours to share Tory Labour, liberal and all.you blame you leave me out of it I blame Russia and putin I think most sane people will aswell
So you do t buy anything from China and you bank with a green banking company who have no industrial investments . Interesting.
The democratic west has been lead by profit not morals. This blame isn’t unique to the U.K. , Europe the US equally. We want £2 t shirts and don’t care who’s in charge of the country that’s selling them.
Equally we haven’t cared who’s buying the property in London as long as my semi keeps increasing in value.
like I said it’s all our fault what is wrong with you remain squad that look for every Fuck up in the world to be the fault of the U.K. what do you get out of it it’s insane yes shoot me I buy from China and don’t give a thought to who I bank with so putin invading ukrain is all my faul and the U.K. lol classic fab
What the fuck has Brexit got to do with my post please explain?? You’re just ranting!!
Do you understand global economics and the funding needed to arm these nutcases?
You turning what I’ve posted into a simplistic response of “he’s a bad guy and not my fault and what’s wrong with you remainers”. is quite simply a ridiculous child like response.
Of course he’s a fucking nutter but look how he got there is what I’m pointing out!
FFS Foxy get a grip and then read and try to understand the original post!
how he got there is nothing to do with the U.K. sorry for mentioning remain but it does always seem to be the same people who get erections by blaming everything on the U.K. buying from China and not care if where I bank asnt put putin in charge of Russia
So our banking system and great swathes of London prime property is nothing to do with us and “if” he’s baled out financially by China after we gave them our manufacturing wealth that’s nothing to do with the west either??
Costa you know full well our policy of cheap at any cost has come home to haunt us.
No i dont agree, china has been a sleeping giant for decades they had the manpower and the poverty to make it work for them yes goods were cheaper but that was because they were so far behind India will be the next one its the way the world works. Do you think that not trading with them would have made them more open to the west or more insular and resentful?.Trade is a good way of keeping peace but you cannot guarantee that some nutter will not rise to the top.To say its the wests fault is totally wrong in my book.
I think you’re right to a point and we did need to trade and try to help with peace but to just move our wealth so fully to what is in effect a dictatorship was very short sighted.
We have lost our manufacturing and with it our wealth creation . China now has much deeper pockets than us and will soon outstrip the US in defence defending if they chose.
We should have more moral trade which I know is a fantasy but to say yes I’ll take that t shirt at a quid, Wait you use sl4ve labour??? Oh well don’t tell anyone and we will be fine.. Dreaming I know but the principal is there.
Apple employ over a hundred thousand Chinese and their wealth is held offshore so not benefit for the west other than we can buy expensive phones. Were’s the joined up thinking of what’s good for us? A huge amount of their shares are held offshore too.
We make ourselves poorer and others more powerful. The others are in this case Dictators!
As i said before we were always going to lose our manufacturing as the country and people got richer thats how the world works. Poorer nations with poor people will always emerge and as they get richer pay taxes so the country gets richer they then become consumers which in turn leads to another country taking up the manufacturing baton.
Yes i agree. Vietnam is taking Chinese jobs as we speak. There are some jobs moving to Eastern Europe as logistics and the time delays are making Eastern Europe more attractive to supply Western Europe.
However I do think we should have protected our jobs more such as Sheffield steel making as those skills once gone aren’t easily found again. Market protection is screamed as a swear word but China does it and yet will still let them undercut our own country. I’m not a protectionist at any costs but even our MOD outsource manufacturing of basic stuff. Why are we buying testing kits from China still? so like me then British jobs for British people I got slaughtered in here for saying that lol
Yes foxy but you like me and everyone else buys Chinese over U.K.. it’s the Free market way despite the devastation it has caused to industry in this country. I know mate we all buy it but I try when I can but it will never stop it’s China now then it will be another country what can we do ? "
Chose not to buy cheap imports if you can afford the choice? Then protect our manufacturers by imposing tariffs.
Every pound spent here invests more here, even if sone profits disappear to offshore accounts. Every pound spent on imports goes abroad apart from the local logistics.
Free markets are a very nice ideal but when the starting points are different such as cheaper labour then whey not balance that by protecting our own? |
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