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"You can’t really shoot with truncheons Tom. But I think a “bop over the head and asks questions later” policy is the right approach. We’re all guilty of something I am sure and with this kind of policy we win both ways. One the coppers get good use out of their truncheons and the other being that the British people will evolve stronger skulls, making us a stronger nation " | |||
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"Absolutely not. I'm still trying to figure out if this was a moronic attempt to distance herself from Corbyn's accusations of being a terrorist sympathiser or if she's actually an idiot. " I agree, but it could also be the rightwing media misreporting her. I'm not trying to let her off the hook but it wouldnt be the first time the media have done this. | |||
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"Angela Rayner said she is the kind of Shoot to Kill person. Ask questions later kinda girl. Is this the way forward for the police " Who is reporting she said shoot to kill ? It’s a lie | |||
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"Absolutely not. I'm still trying to figure out if this was a moronic attempt to distance herself from Corbyn's accusations of being a terrorist sympathiser or if she's actually an idiot. " Possibly both! | |||
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"Think we can use Betteridge’s Law of Headlines here * (* Betteridge's law of headlines is an adage that states: "Any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered by the word no." It is named after Ian Betteridge, a British technology journalist who wrote about it in 2009, although the principle is much older. It is based on the assumption that if the publishers were confident that the answer was yes, they would have presented it as an assertion; by presenting it as a question, they are not accountable for whether it is correct or not.)" All too true, I fear. Even quite intelligent articles and interesting true news reports often have idiotic, irrelevant, meaningless, or misleading headlines. | |||
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"Just checked the headlines, no one is reporting this statement you made it up all by yourself "I saw it in my news feed this morning, so it isnt entirely fictional | |||
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"Just checked the headlines, no one is reporting this statement you made it up all by yourself
I saw it in my news feed this morning, so it isnt entirely fictional"I saw it on the news on the TV. Sky News I think it was though might have been BBC. | |||
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"Absolutely not. I'm still trying to figure out if this was a moronic attempt to distance herself from Corbyn's accusations of being a terrorist sympathiser or if she's actually an idiot. I agree, but it could also be the rightwing media misreporting her. I'm not trying to let her off the hook but it wouldnt be the first time the media have done this." I agree but I'm really struggling to see what she could possibly have really meant and if she's going to talk about shooting people, she needs to be really careful with her words precisely because of that so she would still be an idiot  . | |||
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"Absolutely not. I'm still trying to figure out if this was a moronic attempt to distance herself from Corbyn's accusations of being a terrorist sympathiser or if she's actually an idiot. I agree, but it could also be the rightwing media misreporting her. I'm not trying to let her off the hook but it wouldnt be the first time the media have done this." Im sure you can hear her saying it on the matt Forde podcast so no not right wing media at all. | |||
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"Shoot terrorists engaged in terrorist acts I’m more than cool with. Even in the preparation stage of said act. Arbitrarily gunning them down “encounter” style not cool. " Exactly , and this is what happens, there are several examples of the police shooting and killing terrorists | |||
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"Just checked the headlines, no one is reporting this statement you made it up all by yourself
I saw it in my news feed this morning, so it isnt entirely fictional"She said shoot first did not say shoot to kill | |||
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"Just checked the headlines, no one is reporting this statement you made it up all by yourself
I saw it in my news feed this morning, so it isnt entirely fictional
She said shoot first did not say shoot to kill "Shooting people is pretty safe right, no danger to life. | |||
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"She's all about self promotion & keeping herself in the press. She's Katie Price with better hair but an even worse gob. " this | |||
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"Absolutely not. I'm still trying to figure out if this was a moronic attempt to distance herself from Corbyn's accusations of being a terrorist sympathiser or if she's actually an idiot. I agree, but it could also be the rightwing media misreporting her. I'm not trying to let her off the hook but it wouldnt be the first time the media have done this." Who reports it is irrelevant. Being true or a lie is what is relevant. | |||
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"What about issuing more tasers? Zap first ... " Nah! No good at all. There is barely enough electricity to keep the lights on so recharging all them tazers would blow the main fuse. Besides Greta would give us a proper scowl. | |||
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"From The Independent:- " "Labour’s deputy leader Angela Rayner has said Britain’s terror police should “shoot first” and “ask questions second”, as the party sets out its credentials on law and order. She said “On things like law and order I am quite hardline. I am like, shoot your terrorists and ask questions second”. Ms Rayner then stubbed her cigarette out on the lectern, farted loudly and was last seen staggering out of Weatherspoon's 3 hours later" " The numerically incompetent Diane Abbott later tweeted "Is Angela suggesting a mandatory death sentence for suspected (but not convicted) 'terrorists'?" A vote for Labour obviously means a vote for continued persecution of the Jews and the death penalty for back-pack wearing joggers.
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"From The Independent:- " "Labour’s deputy leader Angela Rayner has said Britain’s terror police should “shoot first” and “ask questions second”, as the party sets out its credentials on law and order. She said “On things like law and order I am quite hardline. I am like, shoot your terrorists and ask questions second”. Ms Rayner then stubbed her cigarette out on the lectern, farted loudly and was last seen staggering out of Weatherspoon's 3 hours later" " The numerically incompetent Diane Abbott later tweeted "Is Angela suggesting a mandatory death sentence for suspected (but not convicted) 'terrorists'?" A vote for Labour obviously means a vote for continued persecution of the Jews and the death penalty for back-pack wearing joggers.
Fake news, Only raging right winged Brexit supporters drink in Wetherspoons "Ah, yes - you're probably right. The two giveaways are that Looney Labourites can't afford to drink in Weatherspoons unless someone else is paying, and it's not possible for Diane Abbott to write a legible sentence without help from her carer. | |||
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"From The Independent:- " "Labour’s deputy leader Angela Rayner has said Britain’s terror police should “shoot first” and “ask questions second”, as the party sets out its credentials on law and order. She said “On things like law and order I am quite hardline. I am like, shoot your terrorists and ask questions second”. Ms Rayner then stubbed her cigarette out on the lectern, farted loudly and was last seen staggering out of Weatherspoon's 3 hours later" " The numerically incompetent Diane Abbott later tweeted "Is Angela suggesting a mandatory death sentence for suspected (but not convicted) 'terrorists'?" A vote for Labour obviously means a vote for continued persecution of the Jews and the death penalty for back-pack wearing joggers.
Fake news, Only raging right winged Brexit supporters drink in Wetherspoons
Ah, yes - you're probably right. The two giveaways are that Looney Labourites can't afford to drink in Weatherspoons unless someone else is paying, and it's not possible for Diane Abbott to write a legible sentence without help from her carer. "Why is Dianne Abbot living in your head rent free? | |||
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"Did the shoot to kill policy in Northern Ireland not already answer this stupid question?" It worked. Should not have stopped because terrorists whinged like bitches. | |||
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"Did the shoot to kill policy in Northern Ireland not already answer this stupid question? It worked. Should not have stopped because terrorists whinged like bitches." Was this in Northern Ireland? | |||
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"Just checked the headlines, no one is reporting this statement you made it up all by yourself
I saw it in my news feed this morning, so it isnt entirely fictional
She said shoot first did not say shoot to kill
Shooting people is pretty safe right, no danger to life."I have no sympathy for a knife wielding nutter personally I would shot to kill as it’s much cheaper than putting them through the justice system and prison | |||
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"Did the shoot to kill policy in Northern Ireland not already answer this stupid question? It worked. Should not have stopped because terrorists whinged like bitches. Was this in Northern Ireland? " Just ask DCC John Stalker of Greater Manchester why he was removed from the investigation as he was about to publish it and replaced with another investigator who's findings were never published. | |||
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"From The Independent:- " "Labour’s deputy leader Angela Rayner has said Britain’s terror police should “shoot first” and “ask questions second”, as the party sets out its credentials on law and order. She said “On things like law and order I am quite hardline. I am like, shoot your terrorists and ask questions second”. Ms Rayner then stubbed her cigarette out on the lectern, farted loudly and was last seen staggering out of Weatherspoon's 3 hours later" " The numerically incompetent Diane Abbott later tweeted "Is Angela suggesting a mandatory death sentence for suspected (but not convicted) 'terrorists'?" A vote for Labour obviously means a vote for continued persecution of the Jews and the death penalty for back-pack wearing joggers.
Fake news, Only raging right winged Brexit supporters drink in Wetherspoons
Ah, yes - you're probably right. The two giveaways are that Looney Labourites can't afford to drink in Weatherspoons unless someone else is paying, and it's not possible for Diane Abbott to write a legible sentence without help from her carer. " | |||
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"From The Independent:- " "Labour’s deputy leader Angela Rayner has said Britain’s terror police should “shoot first” and “ask questions second”, as the party sets out its credentials on law and order. She said “On things like law and order I am quite hardline. I am like, shoot your terrorists and ask questions second”. Ms Rayner then stubbed her cigarette out on the lectern, farted loudly and was last seen staggering out of Weatherspoon's 3 hours later" " The numerically incompetent Diane Abbott later tweeted "Is Angela suggesting a mandatory death sentence for suspected (but not convicted) 'terrorists'?" A vote for Labour obviously means a vote for continued persecution of the Jews and the death penalty for back-pack wearing joggers.
Fake news, Only raging right winged Brexit supporters drink in Wetherspoons
Ah, yes - you're probably right. The two giveaways are that Looney Labourites can't afford to drink in Weatherspoons unless someone else is paying, and it's not possible for Diane Abbott to write a legible sentence without help from her carer. "Why do old white men get triggered by Dianne Abbott,  | |||
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"From The Independent:- " "Labour’s deputy leader Angela Rayner has said Britain’s terror police should “shoot first” and “ask questions second”, as the party sets out its credentials on law and order. She said “On things like law and order I am quite hardline. I am like, shoot your terrorists and ask questions second”. Ms Rayner then stubbed her cigarette out on the lectern, farted loudly and was last seen staggering out of Weatherspoon's 3 hours later" " The numerically incompetent Diane Abbott later tweeted "Is Angela suggesting a mandatory death sentence for suspected (but not convicted) 'terrorists'?" A vote for Labour obviously means a vote for continued persecution of the Jews and the death penalty for back-pack wearing joggers.
Fake news, Only raging right winged Brexit supporters drink in Wetherspoons
Ah, yes - you're probably right. The two giveaways are that Looney Labourites can't afford to drink in Weatherspoons unless someone else is paying, and it's not possible for Diane Abbott to write a legible sentence without help from her carer. "Ridiculing poor people. Not a great post. | |||
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"From The Independent:- " "Labour’s deputy leader Angela Rayner has said Britain’s terror police should “shoot first” and “ask questions second”, as the party sets out its credentials on law and order. She said “On things like law and order I am quite hardline. I am like, shoot your terrorists and ask questions second”. Ms Rayner then stubbed her cigarette out on the lectern, farted loudly and was last seen staggering out of Weatherspoon's 3 hours later" " The numerically incompetent Diane Abbott later tweeted "Is Angela suggesting a mandatory death sentence for suspected (but not convicted) 'terrorists'?" A vote for Labour obviously means a vote for continued persecution of the Jews and the death penalty for back-pack wearing joggers.
Fake news, Only raging right winged Brexit supporters drink in Wetherspoons
Ah, yes - you're probably right. The two giveaways are that Looney Labourites can't afford to drink in Weatherspoons unless someone else is paying, and it's not possible for Diane Abbott to write a legible sentence without help from her carer.
Ridiculing poor people. Not a great post."Admitting that looney labourites are all poor people? Not a great post. There are plenty of jobs around though. Sorry to use the word "job", I hope you're not too traumatised. | |||
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"From The Independent:- " "Labour’s deputy leader Angela Rayner has said Britain’s terror police should “shoot first” and “ask questions second”, as the party sets out its credentials on law and order. She said “On things like law and order I am quite hardline. I am like, shoot your terrorists and ask questions second”. Ms Rayner then stubbed her cigarette out on the lectern, farted loudly and was last seen staggering out of Weatherspoon's 3 hours later" " The numerically incompetent Diane Abbott later tweeted "Is Angela suggesting a mandatory death sentence for suspected (but not convicted) 'terrorists'?" A vote for Labour obviously means a vote for continued persecution of the Jews and the death penalty for back-pack wearing joggers.
Fake news, Only raging right winged Brexit supporters drink in Wetherspoons
Ah, yes - you're probably right. The two giveaways are that Looney Labourites can't afford to drink in Weatherspoons unless someone else is paying, and it's not possible for Diane Abbott to write a legible sentence without help from her carer. "Soilder f? | |||
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"Angela Rayner said she is the kind of Shoot to Kill person. Ask questions later kinda girl. Is this the way forward for the police " Why is Boris still breathing then ? | |||
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"Weapons trained officers are always taught to shoot to kill. Firstly, the torso is the biggest and easiest target, especially if the suspect is in motion. There is also less chance of a round going straight through a torso shot and hitting someone the other side. Secondly, if they only get in a wounding shot, the suspect would still be able to fire a weapon or detonate a bomb." Quite correct; the use of the phrase by ignorant journalists trying to produce sensational headlines has misled a lot of people who know no better. In fact police officers and soldiers should hardly ever be opening fire unless they are shooting to kill. The British Army's basic marksmanship training booklet for the infantry (and others) was actually very sensibly entitled: 'Shoot to Kill'! | |||
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"There is an elephant in the room" I thought I could smell something, tbh, I thought it was bull shit | |||
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"I don't know about how the English police snipers are trained but in America I have seen film where there snipers shoot suspects in the hand if they are carrying a knife. I think the USA either have more accurate guns or are trained to a higher standard with better snipers" Yes, if you watch films you will see lots of things, John Wayne hitting a man in the little finger with an old Colt revolver at 100 yards, pistols that have a six round chamber or an eight round magazine firing 100 rounds without reloading, but even in America these things don't happen in reality! They have very similar weapons and training and such 'trick shooting' very rarely happens anywhere outside a circus, and it would almost always be foolish and ineffective to attempt it. I have spent most of my life using small arms operationally and in training and instructed on rifles, pistols, and other weapons for some time. I carried a pistol permanently on or off duty for about twenty years, except when carrying another weapon. | |||
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"I don't know about how the English police snipers are trained but in America I have seen film where there snipers shoot suspects in the hand if they are carrying a knife. I think the USA either have more accurate guns or are trained to a higher standard with better snipers" A sniper is a lot different from a police marksman, it’s incredibly difficult to hit a small target such as a hand from a standing position and as has been said it will go through and has a chance of hitting someone else. A body much easier to hit
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"I saw this American sheriff literally shoot the man in the hand to make him drop his weapon. I saw another literally shoot the legs of another. This was no cowboy film but reality tv. The USA Police SWAT teams. I found stands for Special Weapons and Tactics. These guys will let you live to tell the tale by winging the suspect to bring him down and face trial. Over here they just seem to shoot them dead. I am no lover of Americans but I would rather be shot by an American sniper than the Brits. More chance of surviving. " It's not impossible to take the shot as you describe, but it depends on circumstances. If the gunman is clear, and no threat to civilians, an incapacitating shot could be attempted by a competent marksperson. You can guarantee though, if the gunman continues to pose a threat, the lead content of his body would increase rapidly. If the assailant is wearing a suicide bomb backpack in a crowded area, like a music venue, multiple body shots would be the most efficient option. | |||
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"I saw this American sheriff literally shoot the man in the hand to make him drop his weapon. I saw another literally shoot the legs of another. This was no cowboy film but reality tv. The USA Police SWAT teams. I found stands for Special Weapons and Tactics. These guys will let you live to tell the tale by winging the suspect to bring him down and face trial. Over here they just seem to shoot them dead. I am no lover of Americans but I would rather be shot by an American sniper than the Brits. More chance of surviving. " I see what you mean, but I think that you will find that incidents where such tactics are used are extraordinarily rare in the USA and everywhere else. There are very rare circumstances where it might be worth trying but if anything American Police are more likely to shoot people dead than British Police, not less, and not just because American Police are all armed as part of their uniform and they often have more legal latitude to do so. Very few people are shot by the Police in Britain, and mistakes and errors of judgment are made here and in the USA, but here they are rare whereas in America they are more common if only because of all Police being armed. The priority for Police anywhere is and must be to protect the public and themselves, before considering whether they can eliminate a deadly threat without killing someone who is about to or may imminently kill them. | |||
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"Shoot terrorists engaged in terrorist acts I’m more than cool with. Even in the preparation stage of said act. Arbitrarily gunning them down “encounter” style not cool. Exactly , and this is what happens, there are several examples of the police shooting and killing terrorists " | |||
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"There are people on here who claim to be in the know.. Are they fantasists...? Who knows ?" If you are so stupid that you think that I would waste my time making things up when I am explaining things that I know about from my working life then more fool you. Perhaps that is how you behave yourself? There are clearly a lot of dishonest idiots on these sites, as these forums frequently demonstrate. | |||
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"Perhaps it should be think first? Look what happened to poor Jean Charles De Menezes." I don't think anyone is saying just go ahead and shoot someone who is susspected it's all about context isn't it? If you have a knife or machete wielding nutcase or or someone running around thretening to blow people up then I would have though that was the time to go ahead and shoot. Misstakes do happen but when there is a clear case I don't see the problem. Maybe ask some of the people that have lost relatives what they think ? | |||
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"Angela Rayner said she is the kind of Shoot to Kill person. Ask questions later kinda girl. Is this the way forward for the police " Possible candidate for a Dick replacement, then? | |||
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"There are people on here who claim to be in the know.. Are they fantasists...? Who knows ?" . . You obviously have never been under fire or have been in a position to use a weapon. As a former British Army Paratrooper I can assure you that if you are receiving incoming fire then it is returned in as lethal a manner as possible. I doubt that at no point did any soldier shoot a hand or a leg of the other combatant intentionally, rather the opposite. If I returned fire then that was either suppressing fire or intentionally aimed fire. As for a shoot to kill policy, in NI the only ones who had/have a shoot to kill policy was the terrorist organisations who were happy to bomb, shoot, torture and kill men, women and children. But screamed injustice if they themselves were shot down. If a provo was shot and died then that was one less to inflict suffering on the NI population. With regards to the armed police in the UK, would you prefer that if you were in a situation where a member of a terrorist organisation was stood next to you or your son with a weapon pointed at you, or was about to cut your daughters throat, that the police attempt to shoot him or her in the hand or leg which would still leave that person the ability to take YOUR or your childrens lives or for the police to shoot to kill. The terrorist is already prepared die, a good shot has the potential to save countless other lives | |||
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"There are people on here who claim to be in the know.. Are they fantasists...? Who knows ? . . You obviously have never been under fire or have been in a position to use a weapon. As a former British Army Paratrooper I can assure you that if you are receiving incoming fire then it is returned in as lethal a manner as possible. I doubt that at no point did any soldier shoot a hand or a leg of the other combatant intentionally, rather the opposite. If I returned fire then that was either suppressing fire or intentionally aimed fire. As for a shoot to kill policy, in NI the only ones who had/have a shoot to kill policy was the terrorist organisations who were happy to bomb, shoot, torture and kill men, women and children. But screamed injustice if they themselves were shot down. If a provo was shot and died then that was one less to inflict suffering on the NI population. With regards to the armed police in the UK, would you prefer that if you were in a situation where a member of a terrorist organisation was stood next to you or your son with a weapon pointed at you, or was about to cut your daughters throat, that the police attempt to shoot him or her in the hand or leg which would still leave that person the ability to take YOUR or your childrens lives or for the police to shoot to kill. The terrorist is already prepared die, a good shot has the potential to save countless other lives" I often wonder what the thinking is in regard to the threat of pulling the trigger? A 20 year old on a country road carrying out his job making deliveries in a van is surrounded by paratroopers, a gun put to his head and £100 worth of goods stolen from his van. His driving licence torn up and thrown in a ditch so he could no longer show ID at every roadblock and told he will be shot just for being a Catholic. Or the 21 year old once again with a gun at his head and asked what his religion was when all he was doing was buying bread and milk. Told he had to admit to something he didn't do or he would be shot,only to be rescued by an RUC officer telling the soldiers they were out of order and physically restraining one. Those aren't the thoughts of a fantasist or a terrorist or even someone who is bitter as a result but I'm curious how shooting me on either ocasion and stealing from my vehicle could be classed as saving anyone's life? | |||
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"There are people on here who claim to be in the know.. Are they fantasists...? Who knows ? . . You obviously have never been under fire or have been in a position to use a weapon. As a former British Army Paratrooper I can assure you that if you are receiving incoming fire then it is returned in as lethal a manner as possible. I doubt that at no point did any soldier shoot a hand or a leg of the other combatant intentionally, rather the opposite. If I returned fire then that was either suppressing fire or intentionally aimed fire. As for a shoot to kill policy, in NI the only ones who had/have a shoot to kill policy was the terrorist organisations who were happy to bomb, shoot, torture and kill men, women and children. But screamed injustice if they themselves were shot down. If a provo was shot and died then that was one less to inflict suffering on the NI population. With regards to the armed police in the UK, would you prefer that if you were in a situation where a member of a terrorist organisation was stood next to you or your son with a weapon pointed at you, or was about to cut your daughters throat, that the police attempt to shoot him or her in the hand or leg which would still leave that person the ability to take YOUR or your childrens lives or for the police to shoot to kill. The terrorist is already prepared die, a good shot has the potential to save countless other lives I often wonder what the thinking is in regard to the threat of pulling the trigger? A 20 year old on a country road carrying out his job making deliveries in a van is surrounded by paratroopers, a gun put to his head and £100 worth of goods stolen from his van. His driving licence torn up and thrown in a ditch so he could no longer show ID at every roadblock and told he will be shot just for being a Catholic. Or the 21 year old once again with a gun at his head and asked what his religion was when all he was doing was buying bread and milk. Told he had to admit to something he didn't do or he would be shot,only to be rescued by an RUC officer telling the soldiers they were out of order and physically restraining one. Those aren't the thoughts of a fantasist or a terrorist or even someone who is bitter as a result but I'm curious how shooting me on either ocasion and stealing from my vehicle could be classed as saving anyone's life? " They sound like terrorists to me. | |||
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"The Brazilian guy was shot.. Is that what Angela Rayner wants.. Shoot first .. question later ?" No | |||
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"The Brazilian guy was shot.. Is that what Angela Rayner wants.. Shoot first .. question later ? No " Although plenty of people here are in favour of the police shooting punters who do suspicious stuff like running or wearing a backpack. | |||
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"The Brazilian guy was shot.. Is that what Angela Rayner wants.. Shoot first .. question later ? No Although plenty of people here are in favour of the police shooting punters who do suspicious stuff like running or wearing a backpack. " Really? That is a worry , I ran for a bus wearing a back pack recently, lucky escape | |||
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"The Brazilian guy was shot.. Is that what Angela Rayner wants.. Shoot first .. question later ? No Although plenty of people here are in favour of the police shooting punters who do suspicious stuff like running or wearing a backpack. Really? That is a worry , I ran for a bus wearing a back pack recently, lucky escape "If some people in here were making policy, you could have been shot to death for that. | |||
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"The Brazilian guy was shot.. Is that what Angela Rayner wants.. Shoot first .. question later ? No Although plenty of people here are in favour of the police shooting punters who do suspicious stuff like running or wearing a backpack. Really? That is a worry , I ran for a bus wearing a back pack recently, lucky escape
If some people in here were making policy, you could have been shot to death for that.
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"The Brazilian guy was shot.. Is that what Angela Rayner wants.. Shoot first .. question later ? No Although plenty of people here are in favour of the police shooting punters who do suspicious stuff like running or wearing a backpack. Really? That is a worry , I ran for a bus wearing a back pack recently, lucky escape "trust you to be soft on terrorists lol | |||
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"The Brazilian guy was shot.. Is that what Angela Rayner wants.. Shoot first .. question later ? No Although plenty of people here are in favour of the police shooting punters who do suspicious stuff like running or wearing a backpack. Really? That is a worry , I ran for a bus wearing a back pack recently, lucky escape trust you to be soft on terrorists lol"Why does being against shooting random people with backpacks on translate to being soft on terrorists? | |||
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"The Brazilian guy was shot.. Is that what Angela Rayner wants.. Shoot first .. question later ? No Although plenty of people here are in favour of the police shooting punters who do suspicious stuff like running or wearing a backpack. Really? That is a worry , I ran for a bus wearing a back pack recently, lucky escape trust you to be soft on terrorists lol
Why does being against shooting random people with backpacks on translate to being soft on terrorists?"because I don’t think any normal person thinks it’s about shooting random people with backpacks do you ? | |||
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"The Brazilian guy was shot.. Is that what Angela Rayner wants.. Shoot first .. question later ? No Although plenty of people here are in favour of the police shooting punters who do suspicious stuff like running or wearing a backpack. Really? That is a worry , I ran for a bus wearing a back pack recently, lucky escape trust you to be soft on terrorists lol
Why does being against shooting random people with backpacks on translate to being soft on terrorists?because I don’t think any normal person thinks it’s about shooting random people with backpacks do you ?"So normal people are soft on terrorists? | |||
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"The Brazilian guy was shot.. Is that what Angela Rayner wants.. Shoot first .. question later ? No Although plenty of people here are in favour of the police shooting punters who do suspicious stuff like running or wearing a backpack. Really? That is a worry , I ran for a bus wearing a back pack recently, lucky escape trust you to be soft on terrorists lol"Eh?  | |||
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