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"I think she's right...which probably means the woke think otherwise 
Why would non-racists be upset with someone suggesting saving for a house?
You should see the abuse she rec'd "
It's not the saving, it's the suggestion that they make cutbacks |
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"I think she's right...which probably means the woke think otherwise
Why would non-racists be upset with someone suggesting saving for a house?
You should see the abuse she rec'd "
Only from the ‘woke’ ? |
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"I think she's right...which probably means the woke think otherwise
Why would non-racists be upset with someone suggesting saving for a house?
You should see the abuse she rec'd
Only from the ‘woke’ ? "
And the self entitlement culture |
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"I think she's right...which probably means the woke think otherwise
Why would non-racists be upset with someone suggesting saving for a house?
You should see the abuse she rec'd
Only from the ‘woke’ ?
And the self entitlement culture "
I see, what ‘cut backs ‘ did she recommend? |
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"I think she's right...which probably means the woke think otherwise
Why would non-racists be upset with someone suggesting saving for a house?
You should see the abuse she rec'd
Only from the ‘woke’ ?
And the self entitlement culture
I see, what ‘cut backs ‘ did she recommend? "
I'm sure you'll have read about it |
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"I think she's right...which probably means the woke think otherwise
Why would non-racists be upset with someone suggesting saving for a house?
You should see the abuse she rec'd "
Exclusively from non racists? |
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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago
Bristol |
She had flak for not seeing that she came from privileged upbringing daughter to a Barron and went to good schools all paid for by daddy Who also helped her to buy her first house 
To tell others who will have had a much harder start in life to save money they don’t have to buy houses they cannot afford is hypocritical.
She has not had to live in the real world
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"She had flak for not seeing that she came from privileged upbringing daughter to a Barron and went to good schools all paid for by daddy Who also helped her to buy her first house
To tell others who will have had a much harder start in life to save money they don’t have to buy houses they cannot afford is hypocritical.
She has not had to live in the real world
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The OP must be Little Lord Fauntleroy |
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"51 year old thinks people angry at the daughter of a baron are all left leaning woke.
Shows how out of touch some older folk are."
I'm confused as to what people being not-racist has got to do with Kirsty Alsop being a standard out of touch Tory. |
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"51 year old thinks people angry at the daughter of a baron are all left leaning woke.
Shows how out of touch some older folk are.
I'm confused as to what people being not-racist has got to do with Kirsty Alsop being a standard out of touch Tory."
I have a feeling the OP is confused and doesn’t understand what the word woke really means |
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"51 year old thinks people angry at the daughter of a baron are all left leaning woke.
Shows how out of touch some older folk are.
I'm confused as to what people being not-racist has got to do with Kirsty Alsop being a standard out of touch Tory.
I have a feeling the OP is confused and doesn’t understand what the word woke really means "
Ah that could explain it. What would it mean in this context?
A person who doesn't like being shit on by the Tories? |
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"51 year old thinks people angry at the daughter of a baron are all left leaning woke.
Shows how out of touch some older folk are.
I'm confused as to what people being not-racist has got to do with Kirsty Alsop being a standard out of touch Tory.
I have a feeling the OP is confused and doesn’t understand what the word woke really means
Ah that could explain it. What would it mean in this context?
A person who doesn't like being shit on by the Tories?"
Possibly, I find that people who use woke as an insult are very confused and angry at something they think is woke, sad to see |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"I think she's right...which probably means the woke think otherwise "
Others have already tackled her financially secure/supported background and what “woke” actually means so I will ask you OP this...
You are in your 50s. I am going to assume you therefore bought your first home in the 1990s. What was the average house price and what was the average salary back then?
It was perfectly possible to buy a flat in most parts of London with a mortgage 3x a fair salary in the mid 90s. I know cos I did. Simply impossible now. |
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She is a complete moron , not got a single clue about how hard it is for young people to get on the property ladder .
Woke is an awful word , conjures up images of snowflake types that get offended by everything and tend to blame injustices on things like privilege and patriarchy . |
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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago
Bristol |
"She is a complete moron , not got a single clue about how hard it is for young people to get on the property ladder .
Woke is an awful word , conjures up images of snowflake types that get offended by everything and tend to blame injustices on things like privilege and patriarchy ."
As the song goes every generation blames the one before |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It's completely justified to be angry at the generation who had:
- Free university education
- Cheap housing
- Better opportunities
turn around and say the younger generation are lazy and entitled.
Boomers were fortunate in many ways. For one, the economy was in a good place when they were growing up. Also, the generation before them were trying to make the world a better place following the second world war.
Healthcare, pensions, housing you name it were all in their favour.
Now most of the boomer generation are kicking the ladder behind them. Decade by decade they've been dismantling the post war settlement as they've all grown up and it doesn't benefit them any longer. |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"It's completely justified to be angry at the generation who had:
- Free university education
- Cheap housing
- Better opportunities
turn around and say the younger generation are lazy and entitled.
Boomers were fortunate in many ways. For one, the economy was in a good place when they were growing up. Also, the generation before them were trying to make the world a better place following the second world war.
Healthcare, pensions, housing you name it were all in their favour.
Now most of the boomer generation are kicking the ladder behind them. Decade by decade they've been dismantling the post war settlement as they've all grown up and it doesn't benefit them any longer."
This is a good post. Nice one. |
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By *ancadamMan
over a year ago
Stockport |
"It's completely justified to be angry at the generation who had:
- Free university education
- Cheap housing
- Better opportunities
turn around and say the younger generation are lazy and entitled.
Boomers were fortunate in many ways. For one, the economy was in a good place when they were growing up. Also, the generation before them were trying to make the world a better place following the second world war.
Healthcare, pensions, housing you name it were all in their favour.
Now most of the boomer generation are kicking the ladder behind them. Decade by decade they've been dismantling the post war settlement as they've all grown up and it doesn't benefit them any longer."
...Nailed it. Thank you. |
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"Fuck I remember the good old days
No food no heating no money for holidays no colour telly.
My old man standing inline for a days or weeks work
Oh yea the good old days "
The good old days are coming back. Brexit Britain.
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By *I TwoCouple
over a year ago
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"I think she's right...which probably means the woke think otherwise
Others have already tackled her financially secure/supported background and what “woke” actually means so I will ask you OP this...
You are in your 50s. I am going to assume you therefore bought your first home in the 1990s. What was the average house price and what was the average salary back then?
It was perfectly possible to buy a flat in most parts of London with a mortgage 3x a fair salary in the mid 90s. I know cos I did. Simply impossible now."
You're forgetting house mortgages have more to do with interest rates than house prices. What was the interest rate back in the 80/90s ? |
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"Fuck I remember the good old days
No food no heating no money for holidays no colour telly.
My old man standing inline for a days or weeks work
Oh yea the good old days "
You're misconstruing what I've said. Point out where I said it were all fine and dandy for the boomer generation (and some gen x)?
Despite your fathers hardships I would bet good money that he was a homeowner.
Someone on a modest salary right now cannot even afford to buy a house. Moving to somewhere where housing is cheaper is not a solution because it would lead to a house price boom in those areas too. We've already seen it with people moving out of London and the South East during the pandemic. |
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The fact that I have friends still living with their parents despite having good salaries says it all too.
It's simply not possible to rent (properties owned by boomers I must say, mostly converted to cramped flats), and save for a deposit at the same time.
For most it's a choice between renting and homeownership. |
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By *estivalMan
over a year ago
borehamwood |
"I think she's right...which probably means the woke think otherwise
Others have already tackled her financially secure/supported background and what “woke” actually means so I will ask you OP this...
You are in your 50s. I am going to assume you therefore bought your first home in the 1990s. What was the average house price and what was the average salary back then?
It was perfectly possible to buy a flat in most parts of London with a mortgage 3x a fair salary in the mid 90s. I know cos I did. Simply impossible now.
You're forgetting house mortgages have more to do with interest rates than house prices. What was the interest rate back in the 80/90s ?"
tell me bout it remember coming in one day to find my mum in tears because she thought she would lose the house after a 5% intrest rate rise in one day,think wen she first got her mortgage it was something like 14% intrest,people these days lose there shit when it goes up a 1/4% |
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"I think she's right...which probably means the woke think otherwise
Others have already tackled her financially secure/supported background and what “woke” actually means so I will ask you OP this...
You are in your 50s. I am going to assume you therefore bought your first home in the 1990s. What was the average house price and what was the average salary back then?
It was perfectly possible to buy a flat in most parts of London with a mortgage 3x a fair salary in the mid 90s. I know cos I did. Simply impossible now.
You're forgetting house mortgages have more to do with interest rates than house prices. What was the interest rate back in the 80/90s ?tell me bout it remember coming in one day to find my mum in tears because she thought she would lose the house after a 5% intrest rate rise in one day,think wen she first got her mortgage it was something like 14% intrest,people these days lose there shit when it goes up a 1/4%"
You got interest on your savings then though, these days you get next to nothing on your savings. |
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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago
Bristol |
"Fuck I remember the good old days
No food no heating no money for holidays no colour telly.
My old man standing inline for a days or weeks work
Oh yea the good old days
You're misconstruing what I've said. Point out where I said it were all fine and dandy for the boomer generation (and some gen x)?
Despite your fathers hardships I would bet good money that he was a homeowner.
Someone on a modest salary right now cannot even afford to buy a house. Moving to somewhere where housing is cheaper is not a solution because it would lead to a house price boom in those areas too. We've already seen it with people moving out of London and the South East during the pandemic."
My father never had a spare penny to scratch his arse  .
When I said we had none of those things I really meant it he struggled to bring up 4 boys in his Tod and worked ( we were latchkey kids )
Now me I do own my own house but it took a lot of sacrifices as in no holidays ect but you make your own priorities
Buying a house has always been a struggle in any generation I lied on the forms to get the mortgage  and have sailed close to the wind many times at keeping it paid.
It’s not to say I don’t have a hell of a lot of sympathy with the young today life’s not fair  |
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By *ornagainchristianMan
over a year ago
Preston, Glasgow, Cheltenham, Leeds, Birmingham and Leicester (but travel all over the UK |
Anyone without parents gifting them the money who are on average wages and currently renting will find it is practically impossible to save from scratch for a deposit, plus all the other fees to consider. Kirsty Allsopp is not qualified to give her opinion on this given her privileged upbringing as daughter of a Baron. Neither for that matter are 55+ year old Daily Mail readers who hate the younger generations, and have lived til in a house they bought in the early 70s and self-certified their own interest only mortgage |
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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago
Bristol |
"Anyone without parents gifting them the money who are on average wages and currently renting will find it is practically impossible to save from scratch for a deposit, plus all the other fees to consider. Kirsty Allsopp is not qualified to give her opinion on this given her privileged upbringing as daughter of a Baron. Neither for that matter are 55+ year old Daily Mail readers who hate the younger generations, and have lived til in a house they bought in the early 70s and self-certified their own interest only mortgage"
I never started my mortgage until the 90’s and it was still pretty hard going but then again it was only one income coming in so not surprising.
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By (user no longer on site)
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Hubby got his first mortgage at 37 and has 15 years left on it. He never had a fancy car or went on many holidays in his life and had zero support from his parents. It is a struggle if you don't have family to support you but it can be done and it is very much a case of choosing what is more important to you. |
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By *estivalMan
over a year ago
borehamwood |
"I think she's right...which probably means the woke think otherwise
Others have already tackled her financially secure/supported background and what “woke” actually means so I will ask you OP this...
You are in your 50s. I am going to assume you therefore bought your first home in the 1990s. What was the average house price and what was the average salary back then?
It was perfectly possible to buy a flat in most parts of London with a mortgage 3x a fair salary in the mid 90s. I know cos I did. Simply impossible now.
You're forgetting house mortgages have more to do with interest rates than house prices. What was the interest rate back in the 80/90s ?tell me bout it remember coming in one day to find my mum in tears because she thought she would lose the house after a 5% intrest rate rise in one day,think wen she first got her mortgage it was something like 14% intrest,people these days lose there shit when it goes up a 1/4%
You got interest on your savings then though, these days you get next to nothing on your savings."
savings lol my old girl was working two jobs to pay the mortgage no nights out or holidays and certainly no savings, |
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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago
milton keynes |
"Anyone without parents gifting them the money who are on average wages and currently renting will find it is practically impossible to save from scratch for a deposit, plus all the other fees to consider. Kirsty Allsopp is not qualified to give her opinion on this given her privileged upbringing as daughter of a Baron. Neither for that matter are 55+ year old Daily Mail readers who hate the younger generations, and have lived til in a house they bought in the early 70s and self-certified their own interest only mortgage"
If someone of say 56 years old (55+ as you put it) bought a house in the early 70's they done very well considering they were in first school |
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"Anyone without parents gifting them the money who are on average wages and currently renting will find it is practically impossible to save from scratch for a deposit, plus all the other fees to consider. Kirsty Allsopp is not qualified to give her opinion on this given her privileged upbringing as daughter of a Baron. Neither for that matter are 55+ year old Daily Mail readers who hate the younger generations, and have lived til in a house they bought in the early 70s and self-certified their own interest only mortgage"
Garbage |
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"Anyone without parents gifting them the money who are on average wages and currently renting will find it is practically impossible to save from scratch for a deposit, plus all the other fees to consider. Kirsty Allsopp is not qualified to give her opinion on this given her privileged upbringing as daughter of a Baron. Neither for that matter are 55+ year old Daily Mail readers who hate the younger generations, and have lived til in a house they bought in the early 70s and self-certified their own interest only mortgage
Garbage "
"Garbage" tell tale sign that someone spends a lot of time on US based alt right websites. |
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By *eerobCouple
over a year ago
solihull |
I bought a house early 80s. I didnt have a holiday abroad for 10 years and didnt buy new clothes very often..or go out...my interest rate went up to 15 percent..this left me with 50 pounds a week for two of us to live on..i was always in the red.
My some of my daughters friends do not have houses...but they have new cars every 3 years at least...lovely clothes and numerous holidays a year...
Im not trying to out do anyone.. but it monty python style but it wasnt easy back then either. Think peoples priorities have changed somewhat perhaps.? |
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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago
Bristol |
"I bought a house early 80s. I didnt have a holiday abroad for 10 years and didnt buy new clothes very often..or go out...my interest rate went up to 15 percent..this left me with 50 pounds a week for two of us to live on..i was always in the red.
My some of my daughters friends do not have houses...but they have new cars every 3 years at least...lovely clothes and numerous holidays a year...
Im not trying to out do anyone.. but it monty python style but it wasnt easy back then either. Think peoples priorities have changed somewhat perhaps.?"
Yup I know where you are coming from |
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"I bought a house early 80s. I didnt have a holiday abroad for 10 years and didnt buy new clothes very often..or go out...my interest rate went up to 15 percent..this left me with 50 pounds a week for two of us to live on..i was always in the red.
My some of my daughters friends do not have houses...but they have new cars every 3 years at least...lovely clothes and numerous holidays a year...
Im not trying to out do anyone.. but it monty python style but it wasnt easy back then either. Think peoples priorities have changed somewhat perhaps.?"
Nicely put...btw the newest car I've ever had was 8 years old |
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"I bought a house early 80s. I didnt have a holiday abroad for 10 years and didnt buy new clothes very often..or go out...my interest rate went up to 15 percent..this left me with 50 pounds a week for two of us to live on..i was always in the red.
My some of my daughters friends do not have houses...but they have new cars every 3 years at least...lovely clothes and numerous holidays a year...
Im not trying to out do anyone.. but it monty python style but it wasnt easy back then either. Think peoples priorities have changed somewhat perhaps.?"
Rentals and finance |
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By *estivalMan
over a year ago
borehamwood |
"Anyone without parents gifting them the money who are on average wages and currently renting will find it is practically impossible to save from scratch for a deposit, plus all the other fees to consider. Kirsty Allsopp is not qualified to give her opinion on this given her privileged upbringing as daughter of a Baron. Neither for that matter are 55+ year old Daily Mail readers who hate the younger generations, and have lived til in a house they bought in the early 70s and self-certified their own interest only mortgage
Garbage
"Garbage" tell tale sign that someone spends a lot of time on US based alt right websites."
alt right think someone spends to much time watching cnn  |
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"alt right think someone spends to much time watching cnn "
Easy to spot someone who consumes right wing fake news... they mention CNN.
We're in the UK, not the USA babe. |
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By *estivalMan
over a year ago
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"alt right think someone spends to much time watching cnn
Easy to spot someone who consumes right wing fake news... they mention CNN.
We're in the UK, not the USA babe."
hahaha BABE im neither left or right wing lol i wouldnt vote for either lying side,burn it all to the ground as far as im concerned,survival of the fittest and all that,and forgive me if im wrong but i didnt rattle your cage |
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Easy to spot someone who consumes right wing fake news... they mention CNN.
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far righties will always give themselves away by droping their far righty card ... they just can't help themselves .... especially the ones who think RT is an unbiased news source. |
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"Anyone without parents gifting them the money who are on average wages and currently renting will find it is practically impossible to save from scratch for a deposit, plus all the other fees to consider. Kirsty Allsopp is not qualified to give her opinion on this given her privileged upbringing as daughter of a Baron. Neither for that matter are 55+ year old Daily Mail readers who hate the younger generations, and have lived til in a house they bought in the early 70s and self-certified their own interest only mortgage
Garbage
"Garbage" tell tale sign that someone spends a lot of time on US based alt right websites."
Forgive me... rubbish |
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"Anyone without parents gifting them the money who are on average wages and currently renting will find it is practically impossible to save from scratch for a deposit, plus all the other fees to consider. Kirsty Allsopp is not qualified to give her opinion on this given her privileged upbringing as daughter of a Baron. Neither for that matter are 55+ year old Daily Mail readers who hate the younger generations, and have lived til in a house they bought in the early 70s and self-certified their own interest only mortgage
Garbage
"Garbage" tell tale sign that someone spends a lot of time on US based alt right websites.alt right think someone spends to much time watching cnn "
Never watched it. Didn't even know it was broadcast in the UK.
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By *appyPandaMan
over a year ago
Kilkenny, but Dublin is more fun |
To really see the issue, you need to be able to escape from a humancentric point of view and look on us from an outside perspective as the still primitive apes we are still so rooted in tribalism who have advanced so quickly in only a few thousand years to become trapped in this made up fantasy world of our own creation, convinced it's the real world.
Money started out as a simplified way to barter for goods, but we've allowed it to become an entity in itself and let it become something we put so much importance in and our governments and financial institutions have jumped behind it, lost in this delusion of endless growth and the amount of money in the world become arbitrary incredulous amounts in recent decades no one can even fathom. It's completely imaginary these days while governments and banks base their focuses on increasing it more and more, while normal people are convinced things are much better now because we get entertained by new toys every year, not seeing that adjusted for inflation, we're getting less and less for our money in comparison to who came before us. |
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By *appyPandaMan
over a year ago
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"To really see the issue, you need to be able to escape from a humancentric point of view and look on us from an outside perspective as the still primitive apes we are still so rooted in tribalism who have advanced so quickly in only a few thousand years to become trapped in this made up fantasy world of our own creation, convinced it's the real world.
Money started out as a simplified way to barter for goods, but we've allowed it to become an entity in itself and let it become something we put so much importance in and our governments and financial institutions have jumped behind it, lost in this delusion of endless growth and the amount of money in the world become arbitrary incredulous amounts in recent decades no one can even fathom. It's completely imaginary these days while governments and banks base their focuses on increasing it more and more, while normal people are convinced things are much better now because we get entertained by new toys every year, not seeing that adjusted for inflation, we're getting less and less for our money in comparison to who came before us."
And to add, while we're usually given enough to feed this new economy so dependent on consumerism and a population constantly buying (and basing their lives around working to further this pointless dream of growth for the sake of growth), property prices have soared because it's not just a house anymore or a piece of land. It's an investment, something so linked to the current way our economy is structured that it's a physical metaphor for the imaginary money we use.
What doesn't help is that debt these days is seen as something so absolutely normal and commonplace where it doesn't matter at all if normal people would rarely if ever have the income to actually just buy a house, because we've been convinced it's perfectly normal to go into debt and support a booming mortgage industry our oversized financial sector profits off of so much. |
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