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Anyone going to the cost of living protest on Saturday?
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"It's in London, mainly just wondering if anyone even knew these were happening lol" No point all it will do is block up roads stopping others from going about their business, will be just another selfish action | |||
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"if you're struggling with the cost of living, what do you think a demonstration will do to help?? maybe go to work on saturday instead, that would help you more, in fact, probably save you money too rather than pay for travel to the protest and food and drink while you are protesting?? just a thought" Then you will get taxed more for working overtime or a seconds job | |||
"It's in London, mainly just wondering if anyone even knew these were happening lol" . I would prefer to assess my current expenditure rather than waste time going on a March. As most utility companies have yet to announce their new pricing structure we are not yet in a position to assess the full impact . I do not sew many people complaining about interest rates on mortgages being at an all time low. | |||
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"It's in London, mainly just wondering if anyone even knew these were happening lol . I would prefer to assess my current expenditure rather than waste time going on a March. As most utility companies have yet to announce their new pricing structure we are not yet in a position to assess the full impact . I do not sew many people complaining about interest rates on mortgages being at an all time low. " The vast majority of low income people (those hit hardest by these utility bill increases) don’t have a mortgage  | |||
"It's in London, mainly just wondering if anyone even knew these were happening lol No point all it will do is block up roads stopping others from going about their business, will be just another selfish action " Did you say the same about the Iraq war protests? | |||
"It's in London, mainly just wondering if anyone even knew these were happening lol No point all it will do is block up roads stopping others from going about their business, will be just another selfish action Did you say the same about the Iraq war protests? " do you think they worked then? | |||
"It's in London, mainly just wondering if anyone even knew these were happening lol No point all it will do is block up roads stopping others from going about their business, will be just another selfish action Did you say the same about the Iraq war protests? do you think they worked then?" No, but the poll tax protests did  | |||
"if you're struggling with the cost of living, what do you think a demonstration will do to help?? maybe go to work on saturday instead, that would help you more, in fact, probably save you money too rather than pay for travel to the protest and food and drink while you are protesting?? just a thought Then you will get taxed more for working overtime or a seconds job " Why do people feel so put off working a bit more because of paying a bit more tax? You still take home more than if you refrain rom the work. Do we expect to not pay any tax just because it is overtime? That’s not how the grown up world works is it! | |||
"It's in London, mainly just wondering if anyone even knew these were happening lol" Protest ain't going to do anything, what is it going to achieve?, the only thing you actually register your dissatisfaction with the current situation is called Voting, better to hold the fire in your belly for May then the General Election. | |||
"It's in London, mainly just wondering if anyone even knew these were happening lol Protest ain't going to do anything, what is it going to achieve?, the only thing you actually register your dissatisfaction with the current situation is called Voting, better to hold the fire in your belly for May then the General Election. " If people feel strongly enough they have the right to protest. It is one of the cornerstones of a free and open democracy. If we don’t agree with the protest to see it as pointless the quite simple. Don’t go. A. LOT of people are going to be squeezed hard this year. The vice has only had one turn yet. There are a few more rotations due before the year is out. So I for one don’t begrudge those who are impacted from voicing their plight. Not everyone has the option to work their way out of the pinch fast enough. Being careful not to incite anything but it will take quite a sustained and vocal expression of discontent to change things. And maybe some can’t wait 2+ years to voice their protest with an X. | |||
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"It's in London, mainly just wondering if anyone even knew these were happening lol Protest ain't going to do anything, what is it going to achieve?, the only thing you actually register your dissatisfaction with the current situation is called Voting, better to hold the fire in your belly for May then the General Election. If people feel strongly enough they have the right to protest. It is one of the cornerstones of a free and open democracy. If we don’t agree with the protest to see it as pointless the quite simple. Don’t go. A. LOT of people are going to be squeezed hard this year. The vice has only had one turn yet. There are a few more rotations due before the year is out. So I for one don’t begrudge those who are impacted from voicing their plight. Not everyone has the option to work their way out of the pinch fast enough. Being careful not to incite anything but it will take quite a sustained and vocal expression of discontent to change things. And maybe some can’t wait 2+ years to voice their protest with an X. " Tell that to France and Brussels they have banned the freedom convoy,you really couldn't make it up being threatened with imprisonment and fines for having the freedom to protest.Who do these people think they are it seems the conspiracy theorists could have been right as regard to some countries. | |||
"It's in London, mainly just wondering if anyone even knew these were happening lol Protest ain't going to do anything, what is it going to achieve?, the only thing you actually register your dissatisfaction with the current situation is called Voting, better to hold the fire in your belly for May then the General Election. If people feel strongly enough they have the right to protest. It is one of the cornerstones of a free and open democracy. If we don’t agree with the protest to see it as pointless the quite simple. Don’t go. A. LOT of people are going to be squeezed hard this year. The vice has only had one turn yet. There are a few more rotations due before the year is out. So I for one don’t begrudge those who are impacted from voicing their plight. Not everyone has the option to work their way out of the pinch fast enough. Being careful not to incite anything but it will take quite a sustained and vocal expression of discontent to change things. And maybe some can’t wait 2+ years to voice their protest with an X. Tell that to France and Brussels they have banned the freedom convoy,you really couldn't make it up being threatened with imprisonment and fines for having the freedom to protest.Who do these people think they are it seems the conspiracy theorists could have been right as regard to some countries. " Honestly, people start protesting, all you are going to hear from the other side, oh! It’s some political agenda the right will accuse it of being some left wing communist conspiracy, the left will accuse the right of being far right fascist conspiracy, nothing gets done and we are stuck in the same position. If people feel strongly about situations, there is only one way in a democracy and that is vote. The real silent majority are fed up with other people causing damage to property and riots, because at the end it’s them who are made scapegoats for these “protesters” behaviour, causing further government backlash and more punitive actions against them. All because those people who wanted to protest couldn’t wait to let the check of voting take its course. | |||
"Protest against whom or what ? What about The bank of England for printing so much money (nearly a trillion pounds of funny money) which has caused massive inflation The government for their ludicrous, over the top response to covid, spending half a trillion causing a huge spike in commodity prices and shortages as well as the biggest recession for over 300 years . And the government again for rushing into a ridiculous net zero target, phasing out coal and nuclear power regardless of the dependability of wind and solar alternatives. It also ran down the North Sea, demonising the few companies still willing to operate there. It closed down gas storage facilities to save money, complacently assuming it could always buy whatever we needed on the global market. And it effectively banned fracking, even though we have plentiful reserves in the UK, and the scare stories about it make the anti-vaxxers look sensible. Thats what I'd be protesting about ." I'm sure that will make you feel better. Will you vote for the same party in the next election ? | |||
"It's in London, mainly just wondering if anyone even knew these were happening lol Protest ain't going to do anything, what is it going to achieve?, the only thing you actually register your dissatisfaction with the current situation is called Voting, better to hold the fire in your belly for May then the General Election. If people feel strongly enough they have the right to protest. It is one of the cornerstones of a free and open democracy. If we don’t agree with the protest to see it as pointless the quite simple. Don’t go. A. LOT of people are going to be squeezed hard this year. The vice has only had one turn yet. There are a few more rotations due before the year is out. So I for one don’t begrudge those who are impacted from voicing their plight. Not everyone has the option to work their way out of the pinch fast enough. Being careful not to incite anything but it will take quite a sustained and vocal expression of discontent to change things. And maybe some can’t wait 2+ years to voice their protest with an X. Tell that to France and Brussels they have banned the freedom convoy,you really couldn't make it up being threatened with imprisonment and fines for having the freedom to protest.Who do these people think they are it seems the conspiracy theorists could have been right as regard to some countries. Honestly, people start protesting, all you are going to hear from the other side, oh! It’s some political agenda the right will accuse it of being some left wing communist conspiracy, the left will accuse the right of being far right fascist conspiracy, nothing gets done and we are stuck in the same position. If people feel strongly about situations, there is only one way in a democracy and that is vote. The real silent majority are fed up with other people causing damage to property and riots, because at the end it’s them who are made scapegoats for these “protesters” behaviour, causing further government backlash and more punitive actions against them. All because those people who wanted to protest couldn’t wait to let the check of voting take its course." There is nothing wrong with peaceful protest its a basic right in a free country but i do agree its the behaviour of some that causes a government backlash but thats the goal of the minority who highjack peaceful protests. | |||
"Agree with the poster aboves first paragraph. But don't agree with the rest. Its not the government's job to bail out the country. It should be cutting tax on individuals and businesses to promote growth. Thats the only way out of this mess" Bloody hell! I'm shocked to the core. 
Someone has actually posted some common sense on here.
Must be the first time in years. Don't think it will last though.  | |||
"if you're struggling with the cost of living, what do you think a demonstration will do to help?? maybe go to work on saturday instead, that would help you more, in fact, probably save you money too rather than pay for travel to the protest and food and drink while you are protesting?? just a thought Then you will get taxed more for working overtime or a seconds job Why do people feel so put off working a bit more because of paying a bit more tax? You still take home more than if you refrain rom the work. Do we expect to not pay any tax just because it is overtime? That’s not how the grown up world works is it! " I work overtime and weekends and mostly its only short 7.5 shifts (by law u can only work so many hours per week and u are meant to leave 12 hours between shifts) then u only see a very small amount extra per month after tax and NI. This is within the NHS so it's definitely a grown up world | |||
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"It's in London, mainly just wondering if anyone even knew these were happening lol Protest ain't going to do anything, what is it going to achieve?, the only thing you actually register your dissatisfaction with the current situation is called Voting, better to hold the fire in your belly for May then the General Election. If people feel strongly enough they have the right to protest. It is one of the cornerstones of a free and open democracy. If we don’t agree with the protest to see it as pointless the quite simple. Don’t go. A. LOT of people are going to be squeezed hard this year. The vice has only had one turn yet. There are a few more rotations due before the year is out. So I for one don’t begrudge those who are impacted from voicing their plight. Not everyone has the option to work their way out of the pinch fast enough. Being careful not to incite anything but it will take quite a sustained and vocal expression of discontent to change things. And maybe some can’t wait 2+ years to voice their protest with an X. Tell that to France and Brussels they have banned the freedom convoy,you really couldn't make it up being threatened with imprisonment and fines for having the freedom to protest.Who do these people think they are it seems the conspiracy theorists could have been right as regard to some countries. " My sincere apologies Costa. I was under the illusion that London was in Englandshire. The French and The Belgians can figure out their own protests I’m sure. We’ve taken back control so we’ll be fine. It is the answer to everything! | |||
"if you're struggling with the cost of living, what do you think a demonstration will do to help?? maybe go to work on saturday instead, that would help you more, in fact, probably save you money too rather than pay for travel to the protest and food and drink while you are protesting?? just a thought Then you will get taxed more for working overtime or a seconds job Why do people feel so put off working a bit more because of paying a bit more tax? You still take home more than if you refrain rom the work. Do we expect to not pay any tax just because it is overtime? That’s not how the grown up world works is it! I work overtime and weekends and mostly its only short 7.5 shifts (by law u can only work so many hours per week and u are meant to leave 12 hours between shifts) then u only see a very small amount extra per month after tax and NI. This is within the NHS so it's definitely a grown up world" Sounds constraining. Maybe not all employers allow opting of the working time directive. I know plenty in medicine who work extra jobs in private practise so i’m sure they work more that 48h a week. | |||
"It's in London, mainly just wondering if anyone even knew these were happening lol Protest ain't going to do anything, what is it going to achieve?, the only thing you actually register your dissatisfaction with the current situation is called Voting, better to hold the fire in your belly for May then the General Election. If people feel strongly enough they have the right to protest. It is one of the cornerstones of a free and open democracy. If we don’t agree with the protest to see it as pointless the quite simple. Don’t go. A. LOT of people are going to be squeezed hard this year. The vice has only had one turn yet. There are a few more rotations due before the year is out. So I for one don’t begrudge those who are impacted from voicing their plight. Not everyone has the option to work their way out of the pinch fast enough. Being careful not to incite anything but it will take quite a sustained and vocal expression of discontent to change things. And maybe some can’t wait 2+ years to voice their protest with an X. Tell that to France and Brussels they have banned the freedom convoy,you really couldn't make it up being threatened with imprisonment and fines for having the freedom to protest.Who do these people think they are it seems the conspiracy theorists could have been right as regard to some countries. Honestly, people start protesting, all you are going to hear from the other side, oh! It’s some political agenda the right will accuse it of being some left wing communist conspiracy, the left will accuse the right of being far right fascist conspiracy, nothing gets done and we are stuck in the same position. If people feel strongly about situations, there is only one way in a democracy and that is vote. The real silent majority are fed up with other people causing damage to property and riots, because at the end it’s them who are made scapegoats for these “protesters” behaviour, causing further government backlash and more punitive actions against them. All because those people who wanted to protest couldn’t wait to let the check of voting take its course.There is nothing wrong with peaceful protest its a basic right in a free country but i do agree its the behaviour of some that causes a government backlash but thats the goal of the minority who highjack peaceful protests." So instead of going out to a situation which will is a breeding spot for agitators, use the other Right you have and vote! | |||
"It's in London, mainly just wondering if anyone even knew these were happening lol Protest ain't going to do anything, what is it going to achieve?, the only thing you actually register your dissatisfaction with the current situation is called Voting, better to hold the fire in your belly for May then the General Election. If people feel strongly enough they have the right to protest. It is one of the cornerstones of a free and open democracy. If we don’t agree with the protest to see it as pointless the quite simple. Don’t go. A. LOT of people are going to be squeezed hard this year. The vice has only had one turn yet. There are a few more rotations due before the year is out. So I for one don’t begrudge those who are impacted from voicing their plight. Not everyone has the option to work their way out of the pinch fast enough. Being careful not to incite anything but it will take quite a sustained and vocal expression of discontent to change things. And maybe some can’t wait 2+ years to voice their protest with an X. Tell that to France and Brussels they have banned the freedom convoy,you really couldn't make it up being threatened with imprisonment and fines for having the freedom to protest.Who do these people think they are it seems the conspiracy theorists could have been right as regard to some countries. Honestly, people start protesting, all you are going to hear from the other side, oh! It’s some political agenda the right will accuse it of being some left wing communist conspiracy, the left will accuse the right of being far right fascist conspiracy, nothing gets done and we are stuck in the same position. If people feel strongly about situations, there is only one way in a democracy and that is vote. The real silent majority are fed up with other people causing damage to property and riots, because at the end it’s them who are made scapegoats for these “protesters” behaviour, causing further government backlash and more punitive actions against them. All because those people who wanted to protest couldn’t wait to let the check of voting take its course.There is nothing wrong with peaceful protest its a basic right in a free country but i do agree its the behaviour of some that causes a government backlash but thats the goal of the minority who highjack peaceful protests. So instead of going out to a situation which will is a breeding spot for agitators, use the other Right you have and vote!" The right to vote to ban protests, oh my .  | |||
"It's in London, mainly just wondering if anyone even knew these were happening lol Protest ain't going to do anything, what is it going to achieve?, the only thing you actually register your dissatisfaction with the current situation is called Voting, better to hold the fire in your belly for May then the General Election. If people feel strongly enough they have the right to protest. It is one of the cornerstones of a free and open democracy. If we don’t agree with the protest to see it as pointless the quite simple. Don’t go. A. LOT of people are going to be squeezed hard this year. The vice has only had one turn yet. There are a few more rotations due before the year is out. So I for one don’t begrudge those who are impacted from voicing their plight. Not everyone has the option to work their way out of the pinch fast enough. Being careful not to incite anything but it will take quite a sustained and vocal expression of discontent to change things. And maybe some can’t wait 2+ years to voice their protest with an X. Tell that to France and Brussels they have banned the freedom convoy,you really couldn't make it up being threatened with imprisonment and fines for having the freedom to protest.Who do these people think they are it seems the conspiracy theorists could have been right as regard to some countries. Honestly, people start protesting, all you are going to hear from the other side, oh! It’s some political agenda the right will accuse it of being some left wing communist conspiracy, the left will accuse the right of being far right fascist conspiracy, nothing gets done and we are stuck in the same position. If people feel strongly about situations, there is only one way in a democracy and that is vote. The real silent majority are fed up with other people causing damage to property and riots, because at the end it’s them who are made scapegoats for these “protesters” behaviour, causing further government backlash and more punitive actions against them. All because those people who wanted to protest couldn’t wait to let the check of voting take its course.There is nothing wrong with peaceful protest its a basic right in a free country but i do agree its the behaviour of some that causes a government backlash but thats the goal of the minority who highjack peaceful protests. So instead of going out to a situation which will is a breeding spot for agitators, use the other Right you have and vote! The right to vote to ban protests, oh my . "No one said that, but protests are not the way, voting is the only way. I have never seen a situation where protests where it hasn't turned nasty in recent history. I think goading people into protesting is just to hide activities of those who really want to stir something up. Again the government will then have a another excuse to blame ordinary people for their failures. | |||
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"it's always odd that the refusenik righties immediately attempt change the topic of conversation from this country to france or germany or any other place randomly generated by their bizzare minds. the silent majority are interested in what's happening here; they are rightly concerned over where the vocal minority are dragging everybody else to with their juvenile public school ideas of totalitarianism. "If you actually read what i said i was defending the right to protest and was using them as an example of what should not be done,how that is changing the subject i have no idea. | |||
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"it's always odd that the refusenik righties immediately attempt change the topic of conversation from this country to france or germany or any other place randomly generated by their bizzare minds. the silent majority are interested in what's happening here; they are rightly concerned over where the vocal minority are dragging everybody else to with their juvenile public school ideas of totalitarianism. If you actually read what i said i was defending the right to protest and was using them as an example of what should not be done,how that is changing the subject i have no idea. "interesting that you have chosen to identify yourself with the post i made when it clearly wasn't directed at you. you are todays winner of the internet. | |||
"it's always odd that the refusenik righties immediately attempt change the topic of conversation from this country to france or germany or any other place randomly generated by their bizzare minds. the silent majority are interested in what's happening here; they are rightly concerned over where the vocal minority are dragging everybody else to with their juvenile public school ideas of totalitarianism. If you actually read what i said i was defending the right to protest and was using them as an example of what should not be done,how that is changing the subject i have no idea.
interesting that you have chosen to identify yourself with the post i made when it clearly wasn't directed at you. you are todays winner of the internet. "Nice try but since i was the only one to mention France it was clearly aimed at me.You really must try harder if you are looking for click bait. | |||
"it's always odd that the refusenik righties immediately attempt change the topic of conversation from this country to france or germany or any other place randomly generated by their bizzare minds. the silent majority are interested in what's happening here; they are rightly concerned over where the vocal minority are dragging everybody else to with their juvenile public school ideas of totalitarianism. If you actually read what i said i was defending the right to protest and was using them as an example of what should not be done,how that is changing the subject i have no idea.
interesting that you have chosen to identify yourself with the post i made when it clearly wasn't directed at you. you are todays winner of the internet. Nice try but since i was the only one to mention France it was clearly aimed at me.You really must try harder if you are looking for click bait. "careful, now you are contravening forum rules by bitching about my post | |||
"it's always odd that the refusenik righties immediately attempt change the topic of conversation from this country to france or germany or any other place randomly generated by their bizzare minds. the silent majority are interested in what's happening here; they are rightly concerned over where the vocal minority are dragging everybody else to with their juvenile public school ideas of totalitarianism. If you actually read what i said i was defending the right to protest and was using them as an example of what should not be done,how that is changing the subject i have no idea.
interesting that you have chosen to identify yourself with the post i made when it clearly wasn't directed at you. you are todays winner of the internet. Nice try but since i was the only one to mention France it was clearly aimed at me.You really must try harder if you are looking for click bait.
careful, now you are contravening forum rules by bitching about my post "yeah why not report it thats what lefties usually do when they have no argument revert to the shut down culture. | |||
"It's in London, mainly just wondering if anyone even knew these were happening lol" It's too late. Brexit has happened and is irreversible | |||
"if you're struggling with the cost of living, what do you think a demonstration will do to help?? maybe go to work on saturday instead, that would help you more, in fact, probably save you money too rather than pay for travel to the protest and food and drink while you are protesting?? just a thought Then you will get taxed more for working overtime or a seconds job " By that backward logic, I am better off not working at all because then I don’t have to pay any tax at all . With a few complex exceptions.. when you earn an extra pound you pay some more tax but you still keep more than half of that extra pound. You need more money get off your backsides and work the overtime and second jobs. | |||
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"it has been very noticeable from the variety of media coverage that representation of the silver haired demographic was in the majority at the protests. this could be a worrying indicator of the mood of the core voteconservative and unionist party. "It could also indicate that the silver haired brigade have far too much time on their hands and could be providing a future for the yougsters instead. Ya know, like silver hair brigade should really be serving in McDonalds to ensure their pension? | |||
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"best leave those sorts of macjobs for the kids as they need to pay far more into the system while the silver haired have paid in enough ... hope this helps "I see what you did there, but.... How on earth is your average 16 year old Corsa sXi driver to be expected to pay their insurance premium? | |||
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"it's always odd that the refusenik righties immediately attempt change the topic of conversation from this country to france or germany or any other place randomly generated by their bizzare minds. the silent majority are interested in what's happening here; they are rightly concerned over where the vocal minority are dragging everybody else to with their juvenile public school ideas of totalitarianism. If you actually read what i said i was defending the right to protest and was using them as an example of what should not be done,how that is changing the subject i have no idea.
interesting that you have chosen to identify yourself with the post i made when it clearly wasn't directed at you. you are todays winner of the internet. Nice try but since i was the only one to mention France it was clearly aimed at me.You really must try harder if you are looking for click bait.
careful, now you are contravening forum rules by bitching about my post yeah why not report it thats what lefties usually do when they have no argument revert to the shut down culture. " | |||
"GOOD NEWS, THE PROTEST WORKED! The government released a statement saying it will be offering a fair package of support. Crisis over! "The government released a statement. Okay, that is like typing up a load of trype on a sheet of A4. Looking forward to when the package is released. | |||
"if you're struggling with the cost of living, what do you think a demonstration will do to help?? maybe go to work on saturday instead, that would help you more, in fact, probably save you money too rather than pay for travel to the protest and food and drink while you are protesting?? just a thought Then you will get taxed more for working overtime or a seconds job By that backward logic, I am better off not working at all because then I don’t have to pay any tax at all . With a few complex exceptions.. when you earn an extra pound you pay some more tax but you still keep more than half of that extra pound. You need more money get off your backsides and work the overtime and second jobs."If u read the thread I work overtime already in a very busy NHS hospital I don't have time for a second job sorry and most of the time the money earned isn't worth the hours and stress. | |||
"if you're struggling with the cost of living, what do you think a demonstration will do to help?? maybe go to work on saturday instead, that would help you more, in fact, probably save you money too rather than pay for travel to the protest and food and drink while you are protesting?? just a thought Then you will get taxed more for working overtime or a seconds job By that backward logic, I am better off not working at all because then I don’t have to pay any tax at all . With a few complex exceptions.. when you earn an extra pound you pay some more tax but you still keep more than half of that extra pound. You need more money get off your backsides and work the overtime and second jobs.
If u read the thread I work overtime already in a very busy NHS hospital I don't have time for a second job sorry and most of the time the money earned isn't worth the hours and stress."Thank you for your service, I would suspect many people here would be happy to have a larger proportion of our taxes being given directly to NHS workers for all they do and have done during this time. But we are not in control of the purse strings, and protest isn't going to solve anything, it has to be a giant push on Election Day, or nothing is going to change, the only thing a government sees is a massive shift in people opinion of them. To those who discourage voting, it is akin to someone hiding something. If they really have nothing to hide, then put it to a vote, I say. | |||
"if you're struggling with the cost of living, what do you think a demonstration will do to help?? maybe go to work on saturday instead, that would help you more, in fact, probably save you money too rather than pay for travel to the protest and food and drink while you are protesting?? just a thought Then you will get taxed more for working overtime or a seconds job By that backward logic, I am better off not working at all because then I don’t have to pay any tax at all . With a few complex exceptions.. when you earn an extra pound you pay some more tax but you still keep more than half of that extra pound. You need more money get off your backsides and work the overtime and second jobs.
If u read the thread I work overtime already in a very busy NHS hospital I don't have time for a second job sorry and most of the time the money earned isn't worth the hours and stress.
Thank you for your service, I would suspect many people here would be happy to have a larger proportion of our taxes being given directly to NHS workers for all they do and have done during this time.
But we are not in control of the purse strings, and protest isn't going to solve anything, it has to be a giant push on Election Day, or nothing is going to change, the only thing a government sees is a massive shift in people opinion of them.
To those who discourage voting, it is akin to someone hiding something. If they really have nothing to hide, then put it to a vote, I say.
"If there was a whiff of a for the people party I am sure the 19 million who did not vote in the last election,, more than who voted for the tory party to take office... would vote. | |||
"if you're struggling with the cost of living, what do you think a demonstration will do to help?? maybe go to work on saturday instead, that would help you more, in fact, probably save you money too rather than pay for travel to the protest and food and drink while you are protesting?? just a thought Then you will get taxed more for working overtime or a seconds job By that backward logic, I am better off not working at all because then I don’t have to pay any tax at all . With a few complex exceptions.. when you earn an extra pound you pay some more tax but you still keep more than half of that extra pound. You need more money get off your backsides and work the overtime and second jobs.
If u read the thread I work overtime already in a very busy NHS hospital I don't have time for a second job sorry and most of the time the money earned isn't worth the hours and stress.
Thank you for your service, I would suspect many people here would be happy to have a larger proportion of our taxes being given directly to NHS workers for all they do and have done during this time.
But we are not in control of the purse strings, and protest isn't going to solve anything, it has to be a giant push on Election Day, or nothing is going to change, the only thing a government sees is a massive shift in people opinion of them.
To those who discourage voting, it is akin to someone hiding something. If they really have nothing to hide, then put it to a vote, I say.
If there was a whiff of a for the people party I am sure the 19 million who did not vote in the last election,, more than who voted for the tory party to take office... would vote."Rome wasn't built in a day, just because it doesn't exist today, doesn't mean it will not exist tomorrow, the first thing is to get over the hurdle, then tomorrow will be the next challenge, it doesn't get any simpler. small steps. It is a crying shame when people feel so defeated by the system, yet they hold the ultimate sanction, which is voting, don't be fooled into thinking otherwise. | |||
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"if you're struggling with the cost of living, what do you think a demonstration will do to help?? maybe go to work on saturday instead, that would help you more, in fact, probably save you money too rather than pay for travel to the protest and food and drink while you are protesting?? just a thought Then you will get taxed more for working overtime or a seconds job By that backward logic, I am better off not working at all because then I don’t have to pay any tax at all . With a few complex exceptions.. when you earn an extra pound you pay some more tax but you still keep more than half of that extra pound. You need more money get off your backsides and work the overtime and second jobs.
If u read the thread I work overtime already in a very busy NHS hospital I don't have time for a second job sorry and most of the time the money earned isn't worth the hours and stress.
Thank you for your service, I would suspect many people here would be happy to have a larger proportion of our taxes being given directly to NHS workers for all they do and have done during this time.
But we are not in control of the purse strings, and protest isn't going to solve anything, it has to be a giant push on Election Day, or nothing is going to change, the only thing a government sees is a massive shift in people opinion of them.
To those who discourage voting, it is akin to someone hiding something. If they really have nothing to hide, then put it to a vote, I say.
If there was a whiff of a for the people party I am sure the 19 million who did not vote in the last election,, more than who voted for the tory party to take office... would vote.
Rome wasn't built in a day, just because it doesn't exist today, doesn't mean it will not exist tomorrow, the first thing is to get over the hurdle, then tomorrow will be the next challenge, it doesn't get any simpler. small steps. It is a crying shame when people feel so defeated by the system, yet they hold the ultimate sanction, which is voting, don't be fooled into thinking otherwise. "Thinking a political party is going to save you from another political party is foolish. | |||
"if you're struggling with the cost of living, what do you think a demonstration will do to help?? maybe go to work on saturday instead, that would help you more, in fact, probably save you money too rather than pay for travel to the protest and food and drink while you are protesting?? just a thought Then you will get taxed more for working overtime or a seconds job By that backward logic, I am better off not working at all because then I don’t have to pay any tax at all . With a few complex exceptions.. when you earn an extra pound you pay some more tax but you still keep more than half of that extra pound. You need more money get off your backsides and work the overtime and second jobs.
If u read the thread I work overtime already in a very busy NHS hospital I don't have time for a second job sorry and most of the time the money earned isn't worth the hours and stress.
Thank you for your service, I would suspect many people here would be happy to have a larger proportion of our taxes being given directly to NHS workers for all they do and have done during this time.
But we are not in control of the purse strings, and protest isn't going to solve anything, it has to be a giant push on Election Day, or nothing is going to change, the only thing a government sees is a massive shift in people opinion of them.
To those who discourage voting, it is akin to someone hiding something. If they really have nothing to hide, then put it to a vote, I say.
"Yes I totally agree with u and boris will not definitely leave on his own accord he has worked 2 hard (for himself) 2 get there (throwing others under the bus). We need a some proper opposition b4 the elections | |||
"Protest against whom or what ? Russia ? China ? Brexit ? " Those protesting, they should opt for Communism or a Socialist state. Never understand why people turn to the government for help when private enterprises fuck it up. Isn't this what we celebrate demand as good old 'Western capitalism' or 'freedom'? Rough cometh after the smooth. Can't have both ways.. Money, well, get back I'm all right Jack, keep your hands off of my stack Money, it's a hit Don't give me that do goody good bullshit I'm in the high-fidelity first class travelling set You know, I think I need a Lear jet | |||
"if you're struggling with the cost of living, what do you think a demonstration will do to help?? maybe go to work on saturday instead, that would help you more, in fact, probably save you money too rather than pay for travel to the protest and food and drink while you are protesting?? just a thought Then you will get taxed more for working overtime or a seconds job By that backward logic, I am better off not working at all because then I don’t have to pay any tax at all . With a few complex exceptions.. when you earn an extra pound you pay some more tax but you still keep more than half of that extra pound. You need more money get off your backsides and work the overtime and second jobs.
If u read the thread I work overtime already in a very busy NHS hospital I don't have time for a second job sorry and most of the time the money earned isn't worth the hours and stress.
Thank you for your service, I would suspect many people here would be happy to have a larger proportion of our taxes being given directly to NHS workers for all they do and have done during this time.
But we are not in control of the purse strings, and protest isn't going to solve anything, it has to be a giant push on Election Day, or nothing is going to change, the only thing a government sees is a massive shift in people opinion of them.
To those who discourage voting, it is akin to someone hiding something. If they really have nothing to hide, then put it to a vote, I say.
If there was a whiff of a for the people party I am sure the 19 million who did not vote in the last election,, more than who voted for the tory party to take office... would vote.
Rome wasn't built in a day, just because it doesn't exist today, doesn't mean it will not exist tomorrow, the first thing is to get over the hurdle, then tomorrow will be the next challenge, it doesn't get any simpler. small steps. It is a crying shame when people feel so defeated by the system, yet they hold the ultimate sanction, which is voting, don't be fooled into thinking otherwise.
Thinking a political party is going to save you from another political party is foolish."Yet many people voted for their respective parties on that basis. Does that make them fools? | |||
"if you're struggling with the cost of living, what do you think a demonstration will do to help?? maybe go to work on saturday instead, that would help you more, in fact, probably save you money too rather than pay for travel to the protest and food and drink while you are protesting?? just a thought Then you will get taxed more for working overtime or a seconds job By that backward logic, I am better off not working at all because then I don’t have to pay any tax at all . With a few complex exceptions.. when you earn an extra pound you pay some more tax but you still keep more than half of that extra pound. You need more money get off your backsides and work the overtime and second jobs.
If u read the thread I work overtime already in a very busy NHS hospital I don't have time for a second job sorry and most of the time the money earned isn't worth the hours and stress.
Thank you for your service, I would suspect many people here would be happy to have a larger proportion of our taxes being given directly to NHS workers for all they do and have done during this time.
But we are not in control of the purse strings, and protest isn't going to solve anything, it has to be a giant push on Election Day, or nothing is going to change, the only thing a government sees is a massive shift in people opinion of them.
To those who discourage voting, it is akin to someone hiding something. If they really have nothing to hide, then put it to a vote, I say.
If there was a whiff of a for the people party I am sure the 19 million who did not vote in the last election,, more than who voted for the tory party to take office... would vote.
Rome wasn't built in a day, just because it doesn't exist today, doesn't mean it will not exist tomorrow, the first thing is to get over the hurdle, then tomorrow will be the next challenge, it doesn't get any simpler. small steps. It is a crying shame when people feel so defeated by the system, yet they hold the ultimate sanction, which is voting, don't be fooled into thinking otherwise.
Thinking a political party is going to save you from another political party is foolish.
Yet many people voted for their respective parties on that basis. Does that make them fools?"Wmd, iraq Afghanistan Libya Syria, bank bailouts, Windrush, nicks phone contact list borski's lies and many more, and you were saying you need to vote for something or someone. Yeah right. | |||
"if you're struggling with the cost of living, what do you think a demonstration will do to help?? maybe go to work on saturday instead, that would help you more, in fact, probably save you money too rather than pay for travel to the protest and food and drink while you are protesting?? just a thought Then you will get taxed more for working overtime or a seconds job By that backward logic, I am better off not working at all because then I don’t have to pay any tax at all . With a few complex exceptions.. when you earn an extra pound you pay some more tax but you still keep more than half of that extra pound. You need more money get off your backsides and work the overtime and second jobs.
If u read the thread I work overtime already in a very busy NHS hospital I don't have time for a second job sorry and most of the time the money earned isn't worth the hours and stress.
Thank you for your service, I would suspect many people here would be happy to have a larger proportion of our taxes being given directly to NHS workers for all they do and have done during this time.
But we are not in control of the purse strings, and protest isn't going to solve anything, it has to be a giant push on Election Day, or nothing is going to change, the only thing a government sees is a massive shift in people opinion of them.
To those who discourage voting, it is akin to someone hiding something. If they really have nothing to hide, then put it to a vote, I say.
If there was a whiff of a for the people party I am sure the 19 million who did not vote in the last election,, more than who voted for the tory party to take office... would vote.
Rome wasn't built in a day, just because it doesn't exist today, doesn't mean it will not exist tomorrow, the first thing is to get over the hurdle, then tomorrow will be the next challenge, it doesn't get any simpler. small steps. It is a crying shame when people feel so defeated by the system, yet they hold the ultimate sanction, which is voting, don't be fooled into thinking otherwise.
Thinking a political party is going to save you from another political party is foolish.
Yet many people voted for their respective parties on that basis. Does that make them fools?
Wmd, iraq Afghanistan Libya Syria, bank bailouts, Windrush, nicks phone contact list borski's lies and many more, and you were saying you need to vote for something or someone. Yeah right."Put it this way, if you do not vote, there is a greater chance that you get the above or worse next time, when people say not in my name, what they should be saying why did I let this happen, when I could have have had a chance to stop this from happening by voting. | |||
"if you're struggling with the cost of living, what do you think a demonstration will do to help?? maybe go to work on saturday instead, that would help you more, in fact, probably save you money too rather than pay for travel to the protest and food and drink while you are protesting?? just a thought Then you will get taxed more for working overtime or a seconds job By that backward logic, I am better off not working at all because then I don’t have to pay any tax at all . With a few complex exceptions.. when you earn an extra pound you pay some more tax but you still keep more than half of that extra pound. You need more money get off your backsides and work the overtime and second jobs.
If u read the thread I work overtime already in a very busy NHS hospital I don't have time for a second job sorry and most of the time the money earned isn't worth the hours and stress.
Thank you for your service, I would suspect many people here would be happy to have a larger proportion of our taxes being given directly to NHS workers for all they do and have done during this time.
But we are not in control of the purse strings, and protest isn't going to solve anything, it has to be a giant push on Election Day, or nothing is going to change, the only thing a government sees is a massive shift in people opinion of them.
To those who discourage voting, it is akin to someone hiding something. If they really have nothing to hide, then put it to a vote, I say.
If there was a whiff of a for the people party I am sure the 19 million who did not vote in the last election,, more than who voted for the tory party to take office... would vote.
Rome wasn't built in a day, just because it doesn't exist today, doesn't mean it will not exist tomorrow, the first thing is to get over the hurdle, then tomorrow will be the next challenge, it doesn't get any simpler. small steps. It is a crying shame when people feel so defeated by the system, yet they hold the ultimate sanction, which is voting, don't be fooled into thinking otherwise.
Thinking a political party is going to save you from another political party is foolish.
Yet many people voted for their respective parties on that basis. Does that make them fools?
Wmd, iraq Afghanistan Libya Syria, bank bailouts, Windrush, nicks phone contact list borski's lies and many more, and you were saying you need to vote for something or someone. Yeah right.
Put it this way, if you do not vote, there is a greater chance that you get the above or worse next time, when people say not in my name, what they should be saying why did I let this happen, when I could have have had a chance to stop this from happening by voting."Everyting I stated above i did not vote for, i did not legitimise a political party to do those things through the vote, the wmd lie, brown flogging off the gold, Windrush how low does the bar have to get. | |||
"if you're struggling with the cost of living, what do you think a demonstration will do to help?? maybe go to work on saturday instead, that would help you more, in fact, probably save you money too rather than pay for travel to the protest and food and drink while you are protesting?? just a thought Then you will get taxed more for working overtime or a seconds job By that backward logic, I am better off not working at all because then I don’t have to pay any tax at all . With a few complex exceptions.. when you earn an extra pound you pay some more tax but you still keep more than half of that extra pound. You need more money get off your backsides and work the overtime and second jobs.
If u read the thread I work overtime already in a very busy NHS hospital I don't have time for a second job sorry and most of the time the money earned isn't worth the hours and stress.
Thank you for your service, I would suspect many people here would be happy to have a larger proportion of our taxes being given directly to NHS workers for all they do and have done during this time.
But we are not in control of the purse strings, and protest isn't going to solve anything, it has to be a giant push on Election Day, or nothing is going to change, the only thing a government sees is a massive shift in people opinion of them.
To those who discourage voting, it is akin to someone hiding something. If they really have nothing to hide, then put it to a vote, I say.
If there was a whiff of a for the people party I am sure the 19 million who did not vote in the last election,, more than who voted for the tory party to take office... would vote.
Rome wasn't built in a day, just because it doesn't exist today, doesn't mean it will not exist tomorrow, the first thing is to get over the hurdle, then tomorrow will be the next challenge, it doesn't get any simpler. small steps. It is a crying shame when people feel so defeated by the system, yet they hold the ultimate sanction, which is voting, don't be fooled into thinking otherwise.
Thinking a political party is going to save you from another political party is foolish.
Yet many people voted for their respective parties on that basis. Does that make them fools?
Wmd, iraq Afghanistan Libya Syria, bank bailouts, Windrush, nicks phone contact list borski's lies and many more, and you were saying you need to vote for something or someone. Yeah right.
Put it this way, if you do not vote, there is a greater chance that you get the above or worse next time, when people say not in my name, what they should be saying why did I let this happen, when I could have have had a chance to stop this from happening by voting.
Everyting I stated above i did not vote for, i did not legitimise a political party to do those things through the vote, the wmd lie, brown flogging off the gold, Windrush how low does the bar have to get."I only say vote, the choice of political party available at the ballot box is entirely upto the individual, as long as people take part in the political process. People forget that results are taken as direction of policy for the next government. Case in point, when the Conservatives were finding that UKIP were getting a share of the vote, which could have turned into a threat, they took it as a indication that their party would be split in two over the Europe issue, as a result policy changed and it force the conservative government to put a referendum on the table before their own party imploded, and rest is history. Another Example, the Red wall disintegration, now you have northern conservatives who are challenging traditional conservative thought. So when someone says voting doesn't make a different, it might not be seen, but it has been heard. | |||
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"I would appreciate anyone telling me when the cost if living was actually falling for a period of 2years+? Cost of living increases aren't anything new to anyone surely" Indeed they are not. It is the gap between wage growth and cost of living roses that is wider now. Could be a blip, but as the later has outstripped the former for many years now, a ‘dramatic’ jump in the cost of living - such as we are seeing now is much more painful for those on fixed income or on relatively low income with little scope to adjust. Those on higher disposable incomes are in comparison inconvenienced more than made to suffer or sacrifice, or may well be in roles or business areas where they have much more scope to adjust and offset any increases in costs. | |||
"I would appreciate anyone telling me when the cost if living was actually falling for a period of 2years+? Cost of living increases aren't anything new to anyone surely Indeed they are not. It is the gap between wage growth and cost of living roses that is wider now. Could be a blip, but as the later has outstripped the former for many years now, a ‘dramatic’ jump in the cost of living - such as we are seeing now is much more painful for those on fixed income or on relatively low income with little scope to adjust. Those on higher disposable incomes are in comparison inconvenienced more than made to suffer or sacrifice, or may well be in roles or business areas where they have much more scope to adjust and offset any increases in costs. " Well forgive me but it's always been a case of trying to catch up to stay still in my lifetime | |||
"I would appreciate anyone telling me when the cost if living was actually falling for a period of 2years+? Cost of living increases aren't anything new to anyone surely Indeed they are not. It is the gap between wage growth and cost of living roses that is wider now. Could be a blip, but as the later has outstripped the former for many years now, a ‘dramatic’ jump in the cost of living - such as we are seeing now is much more painful for those on fixed income or on relatively low income with little scope to adjust. Those on higher disposable incomes are in comparison inconvenienced more than made to suffer or sacrifice, or may well be in roles or business areas where they have much more scope to adjust and offset any increases in costs. Well forgive me but it's always been a case of trying to catch up to stay still in my lifetime" General graphs which have a wider sample than one lifetime of experience suggest the challenge is worsening for many. This not my opinion. Many UK and international studies have shown this. | |||
"I would appreciate anyone telling me when the cost if living was actually falling for a period of 2years+? Cost of living increases aren't anything new to anyone surely Indeed they are not. It is the gap between wage growth and cost of living roses that is wider now. Could be a blip, but as the later has outstripped the former for many years now, a ‘dramatic’ jump in the cost of living - such as we are seeing now is much more painful for those on fixed income or on relatively low income with little scope to adjust. Those on higher disposable incomes are in comparison inconvenienced more than made to suffer or sacrifice, or may well be in roles or business areas where they have much more scope to adjust and offset any increases in costs. Well forgive me but it's always been a case of trying to catch up to stay still in my lifetime General graphs which have a wider sample than one lifetime of experience suggest the challenge is worsening for many. This not my opinion. Many UK and international studies have shown this. " Worsening for many, probably not for many others. Meet the challenge! | |||
"I would appreciate anyone telling me when the cost if living was actually falling for a period of 2years+? Cost of living increases aren't anything new to anyone surely Indeed they are not. It is the gap between wage growth and cost of living roses that is wider now. Could be a blip, but as the later has outstripped the former for many years now, a ‘dramatic’ jump in the cost of living - such as we are seeing now is much more painful for those on fixed income or on relatively low income with little scope to adjust. Those on higher disposable incomes are in comparison inconvenienced more than made to suffer or sacrifice, or may well be in roles or business areas where they have much more scope to adjust and offset any increases in costs. Well forgive me but it's always been a case of trying to catch up to stay still in my lifetime General graphs which have a wider sample than one lifetime of experience suggest the challenge is worsening for many. This not my opinion. Many UK and international studies have shown this. Worsening for many, probably not for many others. Meet the challenge!" It is the inequality of ability/opportunity to “meet the challenge” that is the real concern. Deepening divisions in society can’t be a good thing. Overall. | |||
"I would appreciate anyone telling me when the cost if living was actually falling for a period of 2years+? Cost of living increases aren't anything new to anyone surely Indeed they are not. It is the gap between wage growth and cost of living roses that is wider now. Could be a blip, but as the later has outstripped the former for many years now, a ‘dramatic’ jump in the cost of living - such as we are seeing now is much more painful for those on fixed income or on relatively low income with little scope to adjust. Those on higher disposable incomes are in comparison inconvenienced more than made to suffer or sacrifice, or may well be in roles or business areas where they have much more scope to adjust and offset any increases in costs. Well forgive me but it's always been a case of trying to catch up to stay still in my lifetime General graphs which have a wider sample than one lifetime of experience suggest the challenge is worsening for many. This not my opinion. Many UK and international studies have shown this. Worsening for many, probably not for many others. Meet the challenge! It is the inequality of ability/opportunity to “meet the challenge” that is the real concern. Deepening divisions in society can’t be a good thing. Overall. " That's where we differ. I don't believe in this inequality you refer to. | |||
"I would appreciate anyone telling me when the cost if living was actually falling for a period of 2years+? Cost of living increases aren't anything new to anyone surely Indeed they are not. It is the gap between wage growth and cost of living roses that is wider now. Could be a blip, but as the later has outstripped the former for many years now, a ‘dramatic’ jump in the cost of living - such as we are seeing now is much more painful for those on fixed income or on relatively low income with little scope to adjust. Those on higher disposable incomes are in comparison inconvenienced more than made to suffer or sacrifice, or may well be in roles or business areas where they have much more scope to adjust and offset any increases in costs. Well forgive me but it's always been a case of trying to catch up to stay still in my lifetime General graphs which have a wider sample than one lifetime of experience suggest the challenge is worsening for many. This not my opinion. Many UK and international studies have shown this. Worsening for many, probably not for many others. Meet the challenge! It is the inequality of ability/opportunity to “meet the challenge” that is the real concern. Deepening divisions in society can’t be a good thing. Overall. That's where we differ. I don't believe in this inequality you refer to. " So are you therefore saying that everyone in the UK is equally able and has the means and opportunity to increase their earnings to offset high inflation? Personally I don’t think It is a matter of faith/belief. It is an imperially observable fact. Someone who is a high earner and/or in a very in demand field can far better absorb the price rises and offset it than someone who’s in the bottom quartile and has less leverage to increase their wages? Inflation is close to 7% which is how much I raised my rates this year. Nit sure someone on a zero hours contract has same “opportunity” but i could be wrong since you believe that is the case. | |||
