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Johnson's lie, that mob and Starmer
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Soooo... Johnson threw out a Smear based on a far-right conspiracy theory about Starmer + Jimmy Savile. It was an utter lie. Many MPs were disgusted, even Tories. But Johnson didn't retract it.
Fast forward a while, a mob of right wing loons accosted Starmer in public, ranting about it. Cops had to get Starmer out of there.
This is the sort of thing that happens when a figure who's supposedly a leader throws around this sort of shit. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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This is the same as the hatred focused on the judges who applied the law and were branded "traitors".
BoJo is a child and will call names and distract in any way that he can.
The false equivalence drawn between an organisation when the leader is not supposed to interfere with individual legal decisions and one where someone is complicit is wholly different.
It's a progressively more nasty form of politics with no thought to the wider consequences beyond what helps an individual right now. |
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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago
Bristol |
"And the Mirror reported some of the protestors had a noose. "
Just goes to show the kind of people who were there demonstrating.
They only arrested 2 of them  should have banged them all up for 24 hours  |
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"And the Mirror reported some of the protestors had a noose.
Just goes to show the kind of people who were there demonstrating.
They only arrested 2 of them should have banged them all up for 24 hours "
Politically engaged nutters. |
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"It reminded me of Trump inciting the storming of The Capitolreally lol a handfull of bellends shouting at starmer is like jan 6th do me a favour"
Chris Bryant MP chair of the Parliamentary Standards Committee has just made the same comparison as me. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It reminded me of Trump inciting the storming of The Capitolreally lol a handfull of bellends shouting at starmer is like jan 6th do me a favour
Chris Bryant MP chair of the Parliamentary Standards Committee has just made the same comparison as me."
We now have our own version of Trump and Trump behaviour in politics here, sad and shameful. |
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The smear around Starmer was out there and thrown in his face a lot on here prior to Boris and his comments.
That being said having watched the clip of Starmer getting hounded it’s clear Boris’s comments have emboldened these morons and this dangerous populist rhetoric has to stop. Two MPs have lost their lives and that’s two too many.
Boris get on your bike and fuck off. |
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"It reminded me of Trump inciting the storming of The Capitol"
It is the same process, that they both have form for. Weasel words thrown out to inflame the anger of dangerous people amongst us, without a care for the consequences, as long as each of the leaders get to hold on to power.
Obviously, both are unfit to hold any public office. |
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"It was also clear that the majority were anti vaxers and the mob were shouting all sorts of things but as usual on here all we hear about is the jimmy saville comment. "
It was the Saville smear that Johnson threw out, to inflame emotions amongst the gullible. Hence it's covered here. |
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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago
Bristol |
"It was also clear that the majority were anti vaxers and the mob were shouting all sorts of things but as usual on here all we hear about is the jimmy saville comment. "
Yup the press manipulating the situation because it’s sensational news |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"It was also clear that the majority were anti vaxers and the mob were shouting all sorts of things but as usual on here all we hear about is the jimmy saville comment.
It was the Saville smear that Johnson threw out, to inflame emotions amongst the gullible. Hence it's covered here. "
yes i understand that but dont you think it should be covered in context? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It was also clear that the majority were anti vaxers and the mob were shouting all sorts of things but as usual on here all we hear about is the jimmy saville comment.
It was the Saville smear that Johnson threw out, to inflame emotions amongst the gullible. Hence it's covered here. yes i understand that but dont you think it should be covered in context?"
These people are obviously ignorant fools , hence why they are anti vaxers and believe Boris, do you think Boris should apologise and retract his statement |
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Boris stands by his statement by saying that the head of an organisation is responsible for anything that happens within the organisation. By the same argument he is therefore responsible for all the government lockdown breaking parties, even the ones he wasn't present at. |
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"Boris stands by his statement by saying that the head of an organisation is responsible for anything that happens within the organisation. By the same argument he is therefore responsible for all the government lockdown breaking parties, even the ones he wasn't present at. "
Nailed it..
Once again the lying buffoon undermines his own indefensible position .. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It reminded me of Trump inciting the storming of The Capitolreally lol a handfull of bellends shouting at starmer is like jan 6th do me a favour
Chris Bryant MP chair of the Parliamentary Standards Committee has just made the same comparison as me."
Doesnt mean its right
You are aware people died on the 6th right?
Nearly as stupid as comparing it to 911 like Harris did |
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"His position is surely indefensible now. "
Agreed, but his own ego and over inflated self opinion of his own competence will not allow him to even contemplate resignation..
Like Berlusconi, Putin and Trump he deems himself above and beyond the norms that are expected of others below him.. |
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"It reminded me of Trump inciting the storming of The Capitolreally lol a handfull of bellends shouting at starmer is like jan 6th do me a favour
Chris Bryant MP chair of the Parliamentary Standards Committee has just made the same comparison as me.
Doesnt mean its right
You are aware people died on the 6th right?
Nearly as stupid as comparing it to 911 like Harris did"
It's a totally reasonable comparison to what trump spent most of his tenure doing..
That the outcome was different is irrelevant, it's the far right extremist dog whistle tactics that's the issue with Boris..
That it possibly came from Rees mogg would not be a surprise..
And that Boris ignored the advice of his then most trusted and loyal advisor of 14 years and still went ahead with it says more about the levels like trump that Boris will stoop to..
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The ball is in Conservative MP’s court now, they and they alone are the ones who control the path of Boris’s future. He is not going to resign, he will have to be forced in office. In the meantime, he could inflict serious permanent damage to the Tory party. They are still well short of numbers to trigger a no confidence vote. My guess is that they’ll leave Boris become a zombie PM until after the local elections |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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As has been widely reported in the media, and contrary to the bullshit in the opening post, the thugs who attacked Starmer were identified as some of Corbyn's extreme left anti-vax wankers. As the old saying goes, shit comes out of the same hole. Old mother Corbyn certainly shat out a couple of steaming turds with Piers and Jezza  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"As has been widely reported in the media, and contrary to the bullshit in the opening post, the thugs who attacked Starmer were identified as some of Corbyn's extreme left anti-vax wankers. As the old saying goes, shit comes out of the same hole. Old mother Corbyn certainly shat out a couple of steaming turds with Piers and Jezza "
Bull shit, one of the main culprits was a raging right wing nutter and ex Tory councillor |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"It was also clear that the majority were anti vaxers and the mob were shouting all sorts of things but as usual on here all we hear about is the jimmy saville comment.
It was the Saville smear that Johnson threw out, to inflame emotions amongst the gullible. Hence it's covered here. yes i understand that but dont you think it should be covered in context?"
Same context as his newspaper article about Muslim women looking like letterboxes and bank robbers "defending" their right to do so.
Just an opportunity to inflame a certain section on the population. This time to deflect attention rather than attract it. |
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"As has been widely reported in the media, and contrary to the bullshit in the opening post, the thugs who attacked Starmer were identified as some of Corbyn's extreme left anti-vax wankers. As the old saying goes, shit comes out of the same hole. Old mother Corbyn certainly shat out a couple of steaming turds with Piers and Jezza
Bull shit, one of the main culprits was a raging right wing nutter and ex Tory councillor"
Do you call Christian Wakeford an ex Tory MP or the Labour MP for Bury South? |
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This is just another political scoring match group think ran from the media that want to topple Boris, the protesters own mission was to take down the government and its "weak opposition" in their own words.... There was 2 shouts about Saville, most was about the magna carta, being a traitor, peado protector and also Assange, that won't stop the tory haters online though. Its hilarious how left wing tabloids attribute this to Boris, almost as if they have an agenda |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"This is just another political scoring match group think ran from the media that want to topple Boris, the protesters own mission was to take down the government and its "weak opposition" in their own words.... There was 2 shouts about Saville, most was about the magna carta, being a traitor, peado protector and also Assange, that won't stop the tory haters online though. Its hilarious how left wing tabloids attribute this to Boris, almost as if they have an agenda "
You will be devastated when Boris goes
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"This is just another political scoring match group think ran from the media that want to topple Boris, the protesters own mission was to take down the government and its "weak opposition" in their own words.... There was 2 shouts about Saville, most was about the magna carta, being a traitor, peado protector and also Assange, that won't stop the tory haters online though. Its hilarious how left wing tabloids attribute this to Boris, almost as if they have an agenda "
I watched the Guardians on line clip of this. All you could hear was traitor, magna Carter, Assange and journalist but they still advertised the clip as people shouting about Savile. |
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"This is just another political scoring match group think ran from the media that want to topple Boris, the protesters own mission was to take down the government and its "weak opposition" in their own words.... There was 2 shouts about Saville, most was about the magna carta, being a traitor, peado protector and also Assange, that won't stop the tory haters online though. Its hilarious how left wing tabloids attribute this to Boris, almost as if they have an agenda
I watched the Guardians on line clip of this. All you could hear was traitor, magna Carter, Assange and journalist but they still advertised the clip as people shouting about Savile."
Did you watch it all? They kept shouting Saville and pedo protector, however they are anti vax loons so that probably explains why they believe Boris |
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"This is just another political scoring match group think ran from the media that want to topple Boris, the protesters own mission was to take down the government and its "weak opposition" in their own words.... There was 2 shouts about Saville, most was about the magna carta, being a traitor, peado protector and also Assange, that won't stop the tory haters online though. Its hilarious how left wing tabloids attribute this to Boris, almost as if they have an agenda
You will be devastated when Boris goes
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Not as devastated as people are that he still remains... I don't like his policies and have pushed the party towards the left a nudge. If there was an competent opposition with a decent media then he would of gone weeks ago but at present there is no opposition, sadly. They have a vast majority but haven't done anything with it.
A good opposition forces the government of the day to actually act. |
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"This is just another political scoring match group think ran from the media that want to topple Boris, the protesters own mission was to take down the government and its "weak opposition" in their own words.... There was 2 shouts about Saville, most was about the magna carta, being a traitor, peado protector and also Assange, that won't stop the tory haters online though. Its hilarious how left wing tabloids attribute this to Boris, almost as if they have an agenda
I watched the Guardians on line clip of this. All you could hear was traitor, magna Carter, Assange and journalist but they still advertised the clip as people shouting about Savile.
Did you watch it all? They kept shouting Saville and pedo protector, however they are anti vax loons so that probably explains why they believe Boris "
They also shout peado protector at BBC news people and other journalists.
Their mission is to bring down the government and its weak opposition, in their own words |
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"This is just another political scoring match group think ran from the media that want to topple Boris, the protesters own mission was to take down the government and its "weak opposition" in their own words.... There was 2 shouts about Saville, most was about the magna carta, being a traitor, peado protector and also Assange, that won't stop the tory haters online though. Its hilarious how left wing tabloids attribute this to Boris, almost as if they have an agenda
You will be devastated when Boris goes
Not as devastated as people are that he still remains... I don't like his policies and have pushed the party towards the left a nudge. If there was an competent opposition with a decent media then he would of gone weeks ago but at present there is no opposition, sadly. They have a vast majority but haven't done anything with it.
A good opposition forces the government of the day to actually act. "
I hope he stays, he is destroying your party, the longer he lingers the better |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"It was also clear that the majority were anti vaxers and the mob were shouting all sorts of things but as usual on here all we hear about is the jimmy saville comment.
It was the Saville smear that Johnson threw out, to inflame emotions amongst the gullible. Hence it's covered here. yes i understand that but dont you think it should be covered in context?
These people are obviously ignorant fools , hence why they are anti vaxers and believe Boris, do you think Boris should apologise and retract his statement "
No he didnt say anything that was not true as the speaker has pointed out and starmer was the top man at the time, the buck stops there as you keep saying over these partys. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"This is just another political scoring match group think ran from the media that want to topple Boris, the protesters own mission was to take down the government and its "weak opposition" in their own words.... There was 2 shouts about Saville, most was about the magna carta, being a traitor, peado protector and also Assange, that won't stop the tory haters online though. Its hilarious how left wing tabloids attribute this to Boris, almost as if they have an agenda
I watched the Guardians on line clip of this. All you could hear was traitor, magna Carter, Assange and journalist but they still advertised the clip as people shouting about Savile.
Did you watch it all? They kept shouting Saville and pedo protector, however they are anti vax loons so that probably explains why they believe Boris
They also shout peado protector at BBC news people and other journalists.
Their mission is to bring down the government and its weak opposition, in their own words"
No matter how you try and spin this Boris has shot himself in the foot, he really is as thick as shit |
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"It was also clear that the majority were anti vaxers and the mob were shouting all sorts of things but as usual on here all we hear about is the jimmy saville comment.
It was the Saville smear that Johnson threw out, to inflame emotions amongst the gullible. Hence it's covered here. yes i understand that but dont you think it should be covered in context?
These people are obviously ignorant fools , hence why they are anti vaxers and believe Boris, do you think Boris should apologise and retract his statement No he didnt say anything that was not true as the speaker has pointed out and starmer was the top man at the time, the buck stops there as you keep saying over these partys. "
Standard, here is the difference, Boris attended the parties, Starmer had nothing to do with the Saville case, it was your beloved party that protected abs then knighted a pedo |
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By *andy 1Couple
over a year ago
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"It was also clear that the majority were anti vaxers and the mob were shouting all sorts of things but as usual on here all we hear about is the jimmy saville comment.
It was the Saville smear that Johnson threw out, to inflame emotions amongst the gullible. Hence it's covered here. yes i understand that but dont you think it should be covered in context?
These people are obviously ignorant fools , hence why they are anti vaxers and believe Boris, do you think Boris should apologise and retract his statement No he didnt say anything that was not true as the speaker has pointed out and starmer was the top man at the time, the buck stops there as you keep saying over these partys. "
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"It was also clear that the majority were anti vaxers and the mob were shouting all sorts of things but as usual on here all we hear about is the jimmy saville comment.
It was the Saville smear that Johnson threw out, to inflame emotions amongst the gullible. Hence it's covered here. yes i understand that but dont you think it should be covered in context?
These people are obviously ignorant fools , hence why they are anti vaxers and believe Boris, do you think Boris should apologise and retract his statement No he didnt say anything that was not true as the speaker has pointed out and starmer was the top man at the time, the buck stops there as you keep saying over these partys.
Standard, here is the difference, Boris attended the parties, Starmer had nothing to do with the Saville case, it was your beloved party that protected abs then knighted a pedo "
so what you are saying is starmer was no good at his job . |
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"It was also clear that the majority were anti vaxers and the mob were shouting all sorts of things but as usual on here all we hear about is the jimmy saville comment.
It was the Saville smear that Johnson threw out, to inflame emotions amongst the gullible. Hence it's covered here. yes i understand that but dont you think it should be covered in context?
These people are obviously ignorant fools , hence why they are anti vaxers and believe Boris, do you think Boris should apologise and retract his statement No he didnt say anything that was not true as the speaker has pointed out and starmer was the top man at the time, the buck stops there as you keep saying over these partys.
Standard, here is the difference, Boris attended the parties, Starmer had nothing to do with the Saville case, it was your beloved party that protected abs then knighted a pedo "
Kieth even said in his past comments about being the Head, the buck stops with him, he was head at the time, let's not talk about Knighting a peado when there's Lord Ahmed lifetime labour peer. |
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"It was also clear that the majority were anti vaxers and the mob were shouting all sorts of things but as usual on here all we hear about is the jimmy saville comment.
It was the Saville smear that Johnson threw out, to inflame emotions amongst the gullible. Hence it's covered here. yes i understand that but dont you think it should be covered in context?
These people are obviously ignorant fools , hence why they are anti vaxers and believe Boris, do you think Boris should apologise and retract his statement No he didnt say anything that was not true as the speaker has pointed out and starmer was the top man at the time, the buck stops there as you keep saying over these partys.
Standard, here is the difference, Boris attended the parties, Starmer had nothing to do with the Saville case, it was your beloved party that protected abs then knighted a pedo so what you are saying is starmer was no good at his job ."
He has nothing to do with case Are you saying that if there were any parties at No 10?
Then Boris is responsible? The Tory party have been pedo protectors |
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"It was also clear that the majority were anti vaxers and the mob were shouting all sorts of things but as usual on here all we hear about is the jimmy saville comment.
It was the Saville smear that Johnson threw out, to inflame emotions amongst the gullible. Hence it's covered here. yes i understand that but dont you think it should be covered in context?
These people are obviously ignorant fools , hence why they are anti vaxers and believe Boris, do you think Boris should apologise and retract his statement No he didnt say anything that was not true as the speaker has pointed out and starmer was the top man at the time, the buck stops there as you keep saying over these partys.
Standard, here is the difference, Boris attended the parties, Starmer had nothing to do with the Saville case, it was your beloved party that protected abs then knighted a pedo
Kieth even said in his past comments about being the Head, the buck stops with him, he was head at the time, let's not talk about Knighting a peado when there's Lord Ahmed lifetime labour peer. "
Ok, you are parroting the usual right wing nonsense, it really doesn’t matter, this has backfired, it is just another nail in Boris’s coffin, it is great to watch his slow and painful downfall |
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"This is just another political scoring match group think ran from the media that want to topple Boris, the protesters own mission was to take down the government and its "weak opposition" in their own words.... There was 2 shouts about Saville, most was about the magna carta, being a traitor, peado protector and also Assange, that won't stop the tory haters online though. Its hilarious how left wing tabloids attribute this to Boris, almost as if they have an agenda
You will be devastated when Boris goes
Not as devastated as people are that he still remains... I don't like his policies and have pushed the party towards the left a nudge. If there was an competent opposition with a decent media then he would of gone weeks ago but at present there is no opposition, sadly. They have a vast majority but haven't done anything with it.
A good opposition forces the government of the day to actually act. "
It's a tad naive to think Boris would have gone weeks ago, it's his own party that has his fate in their hands and no one else..
Let's see how the police investigation and the full Gray report steers this.. |
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" so what you are saying is starmer was no good at his job .
If he was no good at his job why did he get a Knighthood for it during David Cameron's parliament?"
Ha, brilliant reply |
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"It was also clear that the majority were anti vaxers and the mob were shouting all sorts of things but as usual on here all we hear about is the jimmy saville comment.
It was the Saville smear that Johnson threw out, to inflame emotions amongst the gullible. Hence it's covered here. yes i understand that but dont you think it should be covered in context?
These people are obviously ignorant fools , hence why they are anti vaxers and believe Boris, do you think Boris should apologise and retract his statement No he didnt say anything that was not true as the speaker has pointed out and starmer was the top man at the time, the buck stops there as you keep saying over these partys. "
Costa, one difference this far is that Boris has lied to Parliament over the parties he 'condemned', refused to say whether as the bloke at the top that he will take any responsibility for the ones he attended and happened on his watch..
Starmer like Cameron's apology over Hillsborough is how leaders are meant to act even when they had no previous direct involvement in the actual issue..
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It's a tad naive to think Boris would have gone weeks ago, it's his own party that has his fate in their hands and no one else..
Let's see how the police investigation and the full Gray report steers this.."
My prediction, fixed penalty for high enough civil servents, none for Boris personally, then they say they have issued x amount of FPN but don't reveal who they have given it too, doesn't matter what's in the grey report after it as its been dealt by the met... Life goes on |
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It's a tad naive to think Boris would have gone weeks ago, it's his own party that has his fate in their hands and no one else..
Let's see how the police investigation and the full Gray report steers this..
My prediction, fixed penalty for high enough civil servents, none for Boris personally, then they say they have issued x amount of FPN but don't reveal who they have given it too, doesn't matter what's in the grey report after it as its been dealt by the met... Life goes on"
Boris is finished, if he manages to survive this there will be other scandals to come, time for you to accept reality and start to plan for a new leader |
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It's a tad naive to think Boris would have gone weeks ago, it's his own party that has his fate in their hands and no one else..
Let's see how the police investigation and the full Gray report steers this..
My prediction, fixed penalty for high enough civil servents, none for Boris personally, then they say they have issued x amount of FPN but don't reveal who they have given it too, doesn't matter what's in the grey report after it as its been dealt by the met... Life goes on"
Yep. I've said it a million times. People who vote Tory don't give a shit about any of his multiple and continuous scandals and fuck ups. |
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It's a tad naive to think Boris would have gone weeks ago, it's his own party that has his fate in their hands and no one else..
Let's see how the police investigation and the full Gray report steers this..
My prediction, fixed penalty for high enough civil servents, none for Boris personally, then they say they have issued x amount of FPN but don't reveal who they have given it too, doesn't matter what's in the grey report after it as its been dealt by the met... Life goes on"
The Tories who are not part of the cult of Boris want to see the full report, any pictures which are part of that will be damning for them as a party if they don't act..
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It's a tad naive to think Boris would have gone weeks ago, it's his own party that has his fate in their hands and no one else..
Let's see how the police investigation and the full Gray report steers this..
My prediction, fixed penalty for high enough civil servents, none for Boris personally, then they say they have issued x amount of FPN but don't reveal who they have given it too, doesn't matter what's in the grey report after it as its been dealt by the met... Life goes on
Yep. I've said it a million times. People who vote Tory don't give a shit about any of his multiple and continuous scandals and fuck ups."
Majority of the "scandals" are just a lynch mob attack by the media/ wonderful world of twitter and are infact not representing the real world views... Cake gate, wallpaper gate, party gate...
Hence why the polls are now going back up and any decent opposition would be leagues ahead but the Labour of today caters to the metropolitan and the overly woke.
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It's a tad naive to think Boris would have gone weeks ago, it's his own party that has his fate in their hands and no one else..
Let's see how the police investigation and the full Gray report steers this..
My prediction, fixed penalty for high enough civil servents, none for Boris personally, then they say they have issued x amount of FPN but don't reveal who they have given it too, doesn't matter what's in the grey report after it as its been dealt by the met... Life goes on
The Tories who are not part of the cult of Boris want to see the full report, any pictures which are part of that will be damning for them as a party if they don't act..
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I have said in this thread I am far from the cult of Boris but not part of the self jerking circle of twitter faux outrage of left wing toilet papers like the guardian and the mirror. I also hate the views of the daily fail, scum and torygrapgh. |
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It's a tad naive to think Boris would have gone weeks ago, it's his own party that has his fate in their hands and no one else..
Let's see how the police investigation and the full Gray report steers this..
My prediction, fixed penalty for high enough civil servents, none for Boris personally, then they say they have issued x amount of FPN but don't reveal who they have given it too, doesn't matter what's in the grey report after it as its been dealt by the met... Life goes on
Boris is finished, if he manages to survive this there will be other scandals to come, time for you to accept reality and start to plan for a new leader "
Realistically there is none at present....
In the real world people are caring about the brink of a world war and not party gate but hey the media go to Ukraine and the first 2 questions to Boris are about party gate. |
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" so what you are saying is starmer was no good at his job .
If he was no good at his job why did he get a Knighthood for it during David Cameron's parliament?"
Erm, could it be because all former DPPs are awarded a knighthood / damehood when they step down, regardless of how crap they are? |
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It's a tad naive to think Boris would have gone weeks ago, it's his own party that has his fate in their hands and no one else..
Let's see how the police investigation and the full Gray report steers this..
My prediction, fixed penalty for high enough civil servents, none for Boris personally, then they say they have issued x amount of FPN but don't reveal who they have given it too, doesn't matter what's in the grey report after it as its been dealt by the met... Life goes on
Boris is finished, if he manages to survive this there will be other scandals to come, time for you to accept reality and start to plan for a new leader
Realistically there is none at present....
In the real world people are caring about the brink of a world war and not party gate but hey the media go to Ukraine and the first 2 questions to Boris are about party gate. "
Boris is finished, the sooner you learn to accept this the better, Dom Cummings (who is a cunt) has plenty more up his sleeve |
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"Have I Got News For You tweet "Police have arrested two antivaxers for shouting Jimmy Savile abuse at Kier Starmer. They have yet to find a single brain cell" "
How does shouting abuse a kier starmer about jimmy saville and julian assange make them "anti vaxxers"
Can anyone remind me? |
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" so what you are saying is starmer was no good at his job .
If he was no good at his job why did he get a Knighthood for it during David Cameron's parliament?
Erm, could it be because all former DPPs are awarded a knighthood / damehood when they step down, regardless of how crap they are?"
Do all children entertainers /DJ peados also get them? Or only those who are Tories and friends with Thatcher? |
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" so what you are saying is starmer was no good at his job .
If he was no good at his job why did he get a Knighthood for it during David Cameron's parliament?
Erm, could it be because all former DPPs are awarded a knighthood / damehood when they step down, regardless of how crap they are?"
Same with former speakers but the last one hahaha |
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Starmer may not have been involved in the decision not to prosecute Saville, but he certainly agreed with it.
The Guardian, 24 Oct 2012 reports:
"In a statement earlier this week the CPS said it had confirmed in December 2011 that it concluded in 2009 prosecution would not be viable.
Starmer said in a statement on Wednesday that a review of the files submitted by Surrey police in 2009 had already found "that the decisions taken at the time were the right decisions based on the information and evidence then available"."
He then commissioned his chief legal adviser Alison Levitt QC to conduct a review of the decision not to prosecute.
Levitt’s findings were somewhat different from Sir Keir's. She concluded that:
Decisions not to prosecute were not consciously influenced by any improper motive on the part of either police or prosecutors.
However,
The allegations were both serious and credible and the prosecutor should have sought to “build” a prosecution, by seeing for example whether the victim could be reassured to the extent that she might be prepared to give evidence, or by giving consideration to whether there was any way in which the evidence could be added to, or improved,so
that the victim’s attendance would be unnecessary.
In other words, the CPS DID NOT do enough to build a prosecution case against Saville, which is rather different from Sir Keir Starmer's view that "that the decisions taken at the time were the right decisions based on the information and evidence then available"."
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"Have I Got News For You tweet "Police have arrested two antivaxers for shouting Jimmy Savile abuse at Kier Starmer. They have yet to find a single brain cell"
How does shouting abuse a kier starmer about jimmy saville and julian assange make them "anti vaxxers"
Can anyone remind me?"
Nothing, the reason they were there was to parrot the trucker protests, and failed, but to get rid of the government and opposition. Then just shouted everything they could but the media runs with the minute Saville comments and not the traitor, peado protector, magna carta and Assange shouts |
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"Do all children entertainers /DJ peados also get them? Or only those who are Tories and friends with Thatcher? "
Not sure about knighthoods. It's certainly true that Greville Janner QC, former Labour MP for Leicester West, was made a life peer in 1997 in the early days of the New Labour government, despite there having been several allegations of child abuse made against him from 1991 onwards, and dating back all the way to 1955.
Again, despite three investigations (1991, 2002, and 2006) the CPS and the police refused to take matters further, even though there was extensive credible evidence against Janner. Finally, in 2013-14, police submitted a file to CPS, who again decided not to prosecute on the grounds of Janner's "ill health". If he hadn't been ill he'd have faced 22 charges of indecent assaults and buggery against minors.
Following this decision, the Labour Party finally moved to suspend him, FOURTEEN YEARS after the allegations first surfaced.
Of course, being elevated to the House of Lords, and never having been a frontbencher, means that Greville Janner could not have been one the two Labour MPs, both former ministers, who were caught by Operation Ore (the same op that caught Pete Townshend and Chris Langham) paying with their credit cards to access child pornography.
It was an enormous shock at the time, but swiftly covered up following the issue of a D-Notice (D for Defence of the Realm Act) by the New Labour government to kill the story on the grounds of national security.
The only reference you'll find left online is a piece in the Guardian dated Mon 13 Jan 2003, reporting that Scotland Yard had been sent details of the MPs by US police.
Needless to say, no further action was taken.
Has anyone mentioned Lord Ahmed yet, or would that be overkill? |
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"Do all children entertainers /DJ peados also get them? Or only those who are Tories and friends with Thatcher?
Not sure about knighthoods. It's certainly true that Greville Janner QC, former Labour MP for Leicester West, was made a life peer in 1997 in the early days of the New Labour government, despite there having been several allegations of child abuse made against him from 1991 onwards, and dating back all the way to 1955.
Again, despite three investigations (1991, 2002, and 2006) the CPS and the police refused to take matters further, even though there was extensive credible evidence against Janner. Finally, in 2013-14, police submitted a file to CPS, who again decided not to prosecute on the grounds of Janner's "ill health". If he hadn't been ill he'd have faced 22 charges of indecent assaults and buggery against minors.
Following this decision, the Labour Party finally moved to suspend him, FOURTEEN YEARS after the allegations first surfaced.
Of course, being elevated to the House of Lords, and never having been a frontbencher, means that Greville Janner could not have been one the two Labour MPs, both former ministers, who were caught by Operation Ore (the same op that caught Pete Townshend and Chris Langham) paying with their credit cards to access child pornography.
It was an enormous shock at the time, but swiftly covered up following the issue of a D-Notice (D for Defence of the Realm Act) by the New Labour government to kill the story on the grounds of national security.
The only reference you'll find left online is a piece in the Guardian dated Mon 13 Jan 2003, reporting that Scotland Yard had been sent details of the MPs by US police.
Needless to say, no further action was taken.
Has anyone mentioned Lord Ahmed yet, or would that be overkill? "
Just to clarify, do all childrens entertainers /DJ pedos get Knighted or is it just Saville ?
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"Do all children entertainers /DJ peados also get them? Or only those who are Tories and friends with Thatcher?
Not sure about knighthoods. It's certainly true that Greville Janner QC, former Labour MP for Leicester West, was made a life peer in 1997 in the early days of the New Labour government, despite there having been several allegations of child abuse made against him from 1991 onwards, and dating back all the way to 1955.
Again, despite three investigations (1991, 2002, and 2006) the CPS and the police refused to take matters further, even though there was extensive credible evidence against Janner. Finally, in 2013-14, police submitted a file to CPS, who again decided not to prosecute on the grounds of Janner's "ill health". If he hadn't been ill he'd have faced 22 charges of indecent assaults and buggery against minors.
Following this decision, the Labour Party finally moved to suspend him, FOURTEEN YEARS after the allegations first surfaced.
Of course, being elevated to the House of Lords, and never having been a frontbencher, means that Greville Janner could not have been one the two Labour MPs, both former ministers, who were caught by Operation Ore (the same op that caught Pete Townshend and Chris Langham) paying with their credit cards to access child pornography.
It was an enormous shock at the time, but swiftly covered up following the issue of a D-Notice (D for Defence of the Realm Act) by the New Labour government to kill the story on the grounds of national security.
The only reference you'll find left online is a piece in the Guardian dated Mon 13 Jan 2003, reporting that Scotland Yard had been sent details of the MPs by US police.
Needless to say, no further action was taken.
Has anyone mentioned Lord Ahmed yet, or would that be overkill? "
Btw, why did Thatcher decide to knight Cyril Smith despite knowing about sex abuse allegations about him? Seems she liked to give knight hoods to pedos |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"It was also clear that the majority were anti vaxers and the mob were shouting all sorts of things but as usual on here all we hear about is the jimmy saville comment.
It was the Saville smear that Johnson threw out, to inflame emotions amongst the gullible. Hence it's covered here. yes i understand that but dont you think it should be covered in context?
These people are obviously ignorant fools , hence why they are anti vaxers and believe Boris, do you think Boris should apologise and retract his statement No he didnt say anything that was not true as the speaker has pointed out and starmer was the top man at the time, the buck stops there as you keep saying over these partys.
Standard, here is the difference, Boris attended the parties, Starmer had nothing to do with the Saville case, it was your beloved party that protected abs then knighted a pedo so what you are saying is starmer was no good at his job ."
You understand the difference between the legal profession and just doing what you want, don't you?
The DPP is not supposed to intervene in individual matters.
Decisions are made based on the available evidence and not modified because the DPP " thinks" that it will look good.
You cannot prosecute if there is not sufficient evidence to have a good chance of conviction. |
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"It reminded me of Trump inciting the storming of The Capitolreally lol a handfull of bellends shouting at starmer is like jan 6th do me a favour"
Well the Americans always do things bigger, louder and better than us.. |
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"Soooo... Johnson threw out a Smear based on a far-right conspiracy theory about Starmer + Jimmy Savile. It was an utter lie. Many MPs were disgusted, even Tories. But Johnson didn't retract it.
Fast forward a while, a mob of right wing loons accosted Starmer in public, ranting about it. Cops had to get Starmer out of there.
This is the sort of thing that happens when a figure who's supposedly a leader throws around this sort of shit."
BJ is a leader in the same way that if lightning strikes your local 400,000volt mains grid pylon and a wire snaps, then you're gonna dance to the tune of the broken cable.
Hope that helps. |
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Well, now that we've found out the truth of this "mob of right wing loons" in the OP, the usual subjects have gone quiet on that one.
In the past, the looney labourists have always portrayed thugs as far right jack-booted skinheads. Today's thugs are much more likely to be left whingers who wear responsibly sourced vegan-friendly sandals and sport man-buns and beards. And that's just the women! |
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By *estivalMan
over a year ago
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"It reminded me of Trump inciting the storming of The Capitolreally lol a handfull of bellends shouting at starmer is like jan 6th do me a favour
Chris Bryant MP chair of the Parliamentary Standards Committee has just made the same comparison as me."
Well he is talking out the top of his head also then he also thinks half a dozen people shouting bollox is the same as thousands streaming towards the capitol building |
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It's a tad naive to think Boris would have gone weeks ago, it's his own party that has his fate in their hands and no one else..
Let's see how the police investigation and the full Gray report steers this..
My prediction, fixed penalty for high enough civil servents, none for Boris personally, then they say they have issued x amount of FPN but don't reveal who they have given it too, doesn't matter what's in the grey report after it as its been dealt by the met... Life goes on
Yep. I've said it a million times. People who vote Tory don't give a shit about any of his multiple and continuous scandals and fuck ups.
Majority of the "scandals" are just a lynch mob attack by the media/ wonderful world of twitter and are infact not representing the real world views... Cake gate, wallpaper gate, party gate...
Hence why the polls are now going back up and any decent opposition would be leagues ahead but the Labour of today caters to the metropolitan and the overly woke.
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Lolz. I think we are in full agreement.
Yeah as I said Tory voters just don't care how badly they fuck us all over.
I did enjoy the "what about Labour" jibe too. Lol. |
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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago
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"Watching Chanel 4 news about the mob from yesterday.
Jeez what a Bunch of fucking misfits 
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That sounds a fair description of them. Apparently this lot are not new to this sort of action having treated other politicians in the same way and quite recently too. |
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We don't believe the spin of any media as they all have their own agendas. The media is there to distract and divide us all, while advertising products for us to consume. That is all.
That said, looking at the footage that is available of what actually happened, it looks like a group of people accusing Starmer of all sorts of things. Given that Labour have repeatedly stuck to the script of the Covid authoritarian policies it could just as easily be viewed that this relates to their past support of lockdowns.
At the end of the day Boris is nothing more than a puppet for the people who bankroll his interests. The wiser folk should be asking who is digging the dirt and pushing for him to be gone, and why. Furthermore, which puppet will replace Boris and who will be their masters?
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"We don't believe the spin of any media as they all have their own agendas. The media is there to distract and divide us all, while advertising products for us to consume. That is all.
That said, looking at the footage that is available of what actually happened, it looks like a group of people accusing Starmer of all sorts of things. Given that Labour have repeatedly stuck to the script of the Covid authoritarian policies it could just as easily be viewed that this relates to their past support of lockdowns.
At the end of the day Boris is nothing more than a puppet for the people who bankroll his interests. The wiser folk should be asking who is digging the dirt and pushing for him to be gone, and why. Furthermore, which puppet will replace Boris and who will be their masters?
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Nobody needs to dig dirt. He broadcasts what he does openly.
We also know that it's Cummings who brought him to power with the same games. |
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hmm it seems there were also left wing loons alongside the right wing loons.
So... that makes what Johnson said and the way he said it perfectly fine? Is that the defence? |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"Well, now that we've found out the truth of this "mob of right wing loons" in the OP, the usual subjects have gone quiet on that one.
In the past, the looney labourists have always portrayed thugs as far right jack-booted skinheads. Today's thugs are much more likely to be left whingers who wear responsibly sourced vegan-friendly sandals and sport man-buns and beards. And that's just the women! "
Whoever they were, they were repeating a lie told by our Prime Minister in order to distract from being an incompetent leader and serial liar.
You clearly believe otherwise, which after all this time seems remarkable considering how transparent his repeated tactics are, but if you want to believe, you believe. |
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"Well, now that we've found out the truth of this "mob of right wing loons" in the OP, the usual subjects have gone quiet on that one.
In the past, the looney labourists have always portrayed thugs as far right jack-booted skinheads. Today's thugs are much more likely to be left whingers who wear responsibly sourced vegan-friendly sandals and sport man-buns and beards. And that's just the women!
Whoever they were, they were repeating a lie told by our Prime Minister in order to distract from being an incompetent leader and serial liar.
You clearly believe otherwise, which after all this time seems remarkable considering how transparent his repeated tactics are, but if you want to believe, you believe."
It's known exactly who they were. One of them was Will Coleshill, who is editor of 'Resistance GB'. The video quite clearly shows him screeching 'You are the leader of the opposition - why aren't you standing up for our constitution? For the working classes of this country. What about the working people of this country? Aren't you meant to be the opposition?' So, nothing to do with the PM and all about the incompetence of Starmer - your hapless idol. You should try finding out the facts rather than making up your own version to fit your agenda. |
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"Well, now that we've found out the truth of this "mob of right wing loons" in the OP, the usual subjects have gone quiet on that one.
In the past, the looney labourists have always portrayed thugs as far right jack-booted skinheads. Today's thugs are much more likely to be left whingers who wear responsibly sourced vegan-friendly sandals and sport man-buns and beards. And that's just the women!
Whoever they were, they were repeating a lie told by our Prime Minister in order to distract from being an incompetent leader and serial liar.
You clearly believe otherwise, which after all this time seems remarkable considering how transparent his repeated tactics are, but if you want to believe, you believe.
It's known exactly who they were. One of them was Will Coleshill, who is editor of 'Resistance GB'. The video quite clearly shows him screeching 'You are the leader of the opposition - why aren't you standing up for our constitution? For the working classes of this country. What about the working people of this country? Aren't you meant to be the opposition?' So, nothing to do with the PM and all about the incompetence of Starmer - your hapless idol. You should try finding out the facts rather than making up your own version to fit your agenda."
Nobody said that BoJo was mentioned directly. He encouraged abusive behaviour with inflammatory language. He has done it before.
What you hear most clearly is the person closest to the microphone. That is what you are writing about. If you do not want to hear anything else, then you won't.
Are you saying that nothing else was said?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/keir-starmer-protesters-jimmy-savile-slurs-b2009596.html?r=91737 |
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and so it transpires that the rent-a-mob in the starmer incident comprised of conservative and unionist party members and even conservative and unionist politicians who are responsible for various sinister internet social media groups, whose sole purpose is to diseminate conservative and unionist party extremism such as the violent harrassment of centrist politicians. the silent majority are quite rightly, utterly sickened by the ruling party's extremist bile and tactics of violent disorder. |
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If your angry, fed up with this situation, just go, go to your windows, now! open them, stick your head out, and shout'i am as mad as hell, and I won't take anymore'
Peter finch, network. |
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What do you do when you want to shift attention from your problems? Throw a Dead Cat, create uproar, and quietly hide away.
I think the PM thinks he is clever, but it still isn't going to away the pictures of those parties continue to be revealed. Real hard evidence.
Even Shaggy is thinking, my song can't help him now. Looks like a new leader is on the Cards now, 4 in 12 years with a 5th one soon.
Looks like Sound of Music "So Long, Farewell" is getting ready for a comeback. |
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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago
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When the C4 reported asked them the next day who are the Ped*s and child Mol**sters they said all of them no particular party just all of them 
Just goes to show it not just Labour or Tory's they want to bring down but the who government no matter what.
as far as I can see they are just a bunch of wasters who don't work sponge off the state.
Mind you Pierce Corbyn is Loaded so he might be bank rolling them |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"As has been widely reported in the media, and contrary to the bullshit in the opening post, the thugs who attacked Starmer were identified as some of Corbyn's extreme left anti-vax wankers. As the old saying goes, shit comes out of the same hole. Old mother Corbyn certainly shat out a couple of steaming turds with Piers and Jezza "
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By *amish SMan
over a year ago
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Starmer might have been head of the organisation. It is alleged he didn't know anything about the decision not to prosecute Saville. As the head, I honestly don't think he did not know anything about it. The case against a high profile public figure like Saville I would have expected or needed to cross his desk, if not clearly the position he held was not needed.
I'd love a job in an organisation as the Head where cases with a potential for massive public interest wouldn't cross my desk. Makes you wonder about his level of leadership whilst there and how he run the organisation, it creates a lot of doubt about his leadership capability. |
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"We don't believe the spin of any media as they all have their own agendas. The media is there to distract and divide us all, while advertising products for us to consume. That is all.
That said, looking at the footage that is available of what actually happened, it looks like a group of people accusing Starmer of all sorts of things. Given that Labour have repeatedly stuck to the script of the Covid authoritarian policies it could just as easily be viewed that this relates to their past support of lockdowns.
At the end of the day Boris is nothing more than a puppet for the people who bankroll his interests. The wiser folk should be asking who is digging the dirt and pushing for him to be gone, and why. Furthermore, which puppet will replace Boris and who will be their masters?
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Simple answer. Jacob Rees Mogg. Because he's got a funny sounding double barrelled name. So that makes him worthy.
He also seems to like enjoy wearing a blue and white shirt which I find quite disturbing. Yes, I HAVE visited the campsite just outside of Oranienburg.
Hope that helps.
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"Starmer might have been head of the organisation. It is alleged he didn't know anything about the decision not to prosecute Saville. As the head, I honestly don't think he did not know anything about it. The case against a high profile public figure like Saville I would have expected or needed to cross his desk, if not clearly the position he held was not needed.
I'd love a job in an organisation as the Head where cases with a potential for massive public interest wouldn't cross my desk. Makes you wonder about his level of leadership whilst there and how he run the organisation, it creates a lot of doubt about his leadership capability. "
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