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"Whatever previous view you had of Johnson, has it changed? " Yes, he is an even bigger cunt than I thought he was | |||
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"Having served the public under him as mayor I knew he was a conniving, devious and self centred egotistical liar who was capable of pretty much anything in order to get his own way so not really shocked at all by these revelations and whatever else is to come.. He's totally unfit to serve at any level of public office.. Ffs the gutless slime doesn't even have the decency to apologise to the Queen over the latest party on the eve of her husband's funeral.." Actually Number 10 did apologize to the queen earlier on today. That said, Boris himself hasn't said a word. I totally agree with all your post otherwise. Especially with "whatever else is to come" Because, bad as it is, i suspect even worse is to come. This bit of shit should not be given the privilege of resigning. He should be sacked by a vote of no confidence. | |||
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"No I haven't changed my attitude towards him I really do hope he survives this though. It would be a disgrace to fire him over a few parties, I'd much rather see him brought to justice for his handling of brexit, which no matter whether you're for or against it, he has made a complete fuck up with his lies, scamming and cheap stunts " Brought to justice??? | |||
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"Previously I thought he was a fucking clown, he is confirming what I thought." I thought he was a better alternative than the clown representing the labour party...  | |||
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"I have definitely changed my mind about Boris." To paraphrase the Rolling Stones, "Because she used to love him, but it's all over now." | |||
"I voted for his party and, until the latest nonsense, wasn't overly worried. " https://www.conservatives.com/join "You started it... Now be part of it" Brilliant | |||
"No I haven't changed my attitude towards him I really do hope he survives this though. It would be a disgrace to fire him over a few parties, I'd much rather see him brought to justice for his handling of brexit, which no matter whether you're for or against it, he has made a complete fuck up with his lies, scamming and cheap stunts Brought to justice???" Absolutely | |||
"Previously I thought he was a fucking clown, he is confirming what I thought. I thought he was a better alternative than the clown representing the labour party... "Well guess for most that was the choice at the last GE. At least at the next GE at least one of those leaders has changed (maybe both the way things are going) | |||
"Whatever previous view you had of Johnson, has it changed? " I thought he would be standard self serving Tory. But he turned out to be worse than I expected. | |||
"Previously I thought he was a fucking clown, he is confirming what I thought. I thought he was a better alternative than the clown representing the labour party... "That clown shot himself in the foot, for sitting on the fence over covid. We knew our clown was a fucking big clown, by the amount of fuck ups he made as London mayor. | |||
"Whatever previous view you had of Johnson, has it changed? " My opinion hasn't changed. I thought he was an entitled, lying prick then and still do now. Well...I didn't vote for him   | |||
"It seems everybody has a low or worse opinion of Johnson these days." A few negatives on a swingers forum does not represent "everybody" | |||
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"not changed view, I have always thought he was a lying hypocritical scum bag. "  | |||
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"Whatever previous view you had of Johnson, has it changed? " Actually I think the question should be for those who voted for Johnson.. has their opinion changed of him? Regardless of who was representing the other sides I hope this doesn’t get baited into a “lesser of two evils” thread….. Me personally … I have heard stories from the time he was at the FCO… so I am surprised… not in the slightest!!! | |||
"Yea yea get labour back in and fk the country over AGAIN Remember remember "Do you think they would fuck the country and the people over worse than the Tories? | |||
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"Whatever previous view you had of Johnson, has it changed? Actually I think the question should be for those who voted for Johnson.. has their opinion changed of him? Regardless of who was representing the other sides I hope this doesn’t get baited into a “lesser of two evils” thread….. Me personally … I have heard stories from the time he was at the FCO… so I am surprised… not in the slightest!!!" I don't always agree with you, original poster, but this is 1000% | |||
"Yea yea get labour back in and fk the country over AGAIN Remember remember
Do you think they would fuck the country and the people over worse than the Tories?"Maybe it's time to give the Greens a chance? We might all end up munching on cow parsley, but at least there'd be no more nukes. Oh, and there'd be great public transport. And windmills. Bring back Dusty Miller! | |||
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"Yea yea get labour back in and fk the country over AGAIN Remember remember
Do you think they would fuck the country and the people over worse than the Tories?
Maybe it's time to give the Greens a chance? We might all end up munching on cow parsley, but at least there'd be no more nukes.
Oh, and there'd be great public transport. And windmills. Bring back Dusty Miller!"Do you mean Windy Millar? | |||
"Yea yea get labour back in and fk the country over AGAIN Remember remember
Do you think they would fuck the country and the people over worse than the Tories?
Maybe it's time to give the Greens a chance? We might all end up munching on cow parsley, but at least there'd be no more nukes.
Oh, and there'd be great public transport. And windmills. Bring back Dusty Miller!
Do you mean Windy Millar? "Miller even  | |||
"Yea yea get labour back in and fk the country over AGAIN Remember remember
Do you think they would fuck the country and the people over worse than the Tories?
Maybe it's time to give the Greens a chance? We might all end up munching on cow parsley, but at least there'd be no more nukes.
Oh, and there'd be great public transport. And windmills. Bring back Dusty Miller!
Do you mean Windy Millar?
Miller even "It's what being a trumper does for you in Trumpington. Your move. | |||
"Yea yea get labour back in and fk the country over AGAIN Remember remember "Remember what? The last time that the country ran an operational credit was in the Tony Blair era. Blair and Brown also virtually eliminated homelessness (as an aside). You are recalling the global financial crash of 2008 which damaged the economies of many, many countries. Gordon Brown’s decision to lend taxpayer money to the banks was costly but has since been universally accepted to be the correct course of action. It is a fallacy and 100% untrue to assert that Labour wreck finances. | |||
"Whatever previous view you had of Johnson, has it changed? " I’ve always loved Boris Johnson and always will! | |||
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"Whatever previous view you had of Johnson, has it changed? I’ve always loved Boris Johnson and always will! " | |||
"Whatever previous view you had of Johnson, has it changed? I’ve always loved Boris Johnson and always will! " What especially about his self serving, not giving a fuck about British people, reign as PM do you like the most? | |||
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"Yea yea get labour back in and fk the country over AGAIN Remember remember
Do you think they would fuck the country and the people over worse than the Tories?
Maybe it's time to give the Greens a chance? We might all end up munching on cow parsley, but at least there'd be no more nukes.
Oh, and there'd be great public transport. And windmills. Bring back Dusty Miller!
Do you mean Windy Millar?
Miller even
It's what being a trumper does for you in Trumpington. Your move."Oh dear schoolboy error Trumpton was later with Chippy Minton and Mrs Lovelace and the firemen, Pugh, Pugh, Barney Mcgrew, Cuthbert , Dibble, Grub., Windy was in Canberwick Green which came first and had Pippin Fort. Although they both along with the later Chigley were based in Trumptonshire.
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"A lot of responses. 1 person seems to still like him. Not looking good for him." Doesn't necessarily mean labour votes though | |||
"A lot of responses. 1 person seems to still like him. Not looking good for him. Doesn't necessarily mean labour votes though" Don't think I even mentioned the opposition. | |||
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"Boris situation is a bit like Winston Churchill. Whilst Churchill was a great wartime prime minister nobody wanted him to run the country after the war. Boris got Brexit started and signed up for but no one seriously wants him to run the country. The man is shambolic. " There might be some truth in this. People got what they wanted but at a cost. | |||
"A lot of responses. 1 person seems to still like him. Not looking good for him. Doesn't necessarily mean labour votes though Don't think I even mentioned the opposition." Like almost all countries leaders with the last 2 years of covid domestic policies have been side lined, trade disrupted and businesses shut and so the guy has not really had a chance to show what he intended to do.Personally i would like to see him carry on until the next election and then make my mind up. | |||
"A lot of responses. 1 person seems to still like him. Not looking good for him. Doesn't necessarily mean labour votes though Don't think I even mentioned the opposition.Like almost all countries leaders with the last 2 years of covid domestic policies have been side lined, trade disrupted and businesses shut and so the guy has not really had a chance to show what he intended to do.Personally i would like to see him carry on until the next election and then make my mind up. " Oh but Johnson has shown us all exactly what he is... | |||
"Whatever previous view you had of Johnson, has it changed? Yes, he is an even bigger cunt than I thought he was " Fair point. However, it's a claim I can't make. My view of those who make excuses for him, who support him, who vote for his Party hasn't changed either. Due to his leadership (if you can call it that) tens of thousands of UK citizens met avoidable deaths. Enough said. | |||
"Whatever previous view you had of Johnson, has it changed? Yes, he is an even bigger cunt than I thought he was Fair point. However, it's a claim I can't make. My view of those who make excuses for him, who support him, who vote for his Party hasn't changed either. Due to his leadership (if you can call it that) tens of thousands of UK citizens met avoidable deaths. Enough said." you keep repeating this mantra but never tell anyone how you have come to this conclusion care to enlighten me? | |||
"Whatever previous view you had of Johnson, has it changed? Yes, he is an even bigger cunt than I thought he was Fair point. However, it's a claim I can't make. My view of those who make excuses for him, who support him, who vote for his Party hasn't changed either. Due to his leadership (if you can call it that) tens of thousands of UK citizens met avoidable deaths. Enough said.you keep repeating this mantra but never tell anyone how you have come to this conclusion care to enlighten me?" A UK Parliamentary report said that delaying lockdown caused thousands of unecessary deaths. And a report by Imperial College found that imposing a national lockdown 1 week earlier would have saved 21,000 lives. Maybe they were what the poster was alluding to. | |||
"Whatever previous view you had of Johnson, has it changed? Yes, he is an even bigger cunt than I thought he was Fair point. However, it's a claim I can't make. My view of those who make excuses for him, who support him, who vote for his Party hasn't changed either. Due to his leadership (if you can call it that) tens of thousands of UK citizens met avoidable deaths. Enough said.you keep repeating this mantra but never tell anyone how you have come to this conclusion care to enlighten me? A UK Parliamentary report said that delaying lockdown caused thousands of unecessary deaths. And a report by Imperial College found that imposing a national lockdown 1 week earlier would have saved 21,000 lives. Maybe they were what the poster was alluding to." Plus ignoring the lessons learnt from not locking down sooner were again totally ignored when SAGE advised a lockdown in September 20, the resulting delay again costs lives over the Christmas/ January period as the inevitable lockdown was too late .. | |||
"Whatever previous view you had of Johnson, has it changed? Yes, he is an even bigger cunt than I thought he was Fair point. However, it's a claim I can't make. My view of those who make excuses for him, who support him, who vote for his Party hasn't changed either. Due to his leadership (if you can call it that) tens of thousands of UK citizens met avoidable deaths. Enough said.you keep repeating this mantra but never tell anyone how you have come to this conclusion care to enlighten me? A UK Parliamentary report said that delaying lockdown caused thousands of unecessary deaths. And a report by Imperial College found that imposing a national lockdown 1 week earlier would have saved 21,000 lives. Maybe they were what the poster was alluding to." I think we all know by now delaying a lockdown does not stop a virus look at how quick they stopped S Africa it didnt make a blind bit of difference to the uk or the rest of Europe. | |||
"Whatever previous view you had of Johnson, has it changed? Yes, he is an even bigger cunt than I thought he was Fair point. However, it's a claim I can't make. My view of those who make excuses for him, who support him, who vote for his Party hasn't changed either. Due to his leadership (if you can call it that) tens of thousands of UK citizens met avoidable deaths. Enough said.you keep repeating this mantra but never tell anyone how you have come to this conclusion care to enlighten me? A UK Parliamentary report said that delaying lockdown caused thousands of unecessary deaths. And a report by Imperial College found that imposing a national lockdown 1 week earlier would have saved 21,000 lives. Maybe they were what the poster was alluding to.I think we all know by now delaying a lockdown does not stop a virus look at how quick they stopped S Africa it didnt make a blind bit of difference to the uk or the rest of Europe. " You asked a question. I answered it. It's not my fault you don't believe reality. | |||
"Whatever previous view you had of Johnson, has it changed? Yes, he is an even bigger cunt than I thought he was Fair point. However, it's a claim I can't make. My view of those who make excuses for him, who support him, who vote for his Party hasn't changed either. Due to his leadership (if you can call it that) tens of thousands of UK citizens met avoidable deaths. Enough said.you keep repeating this mantra but never tell anyone how you have come to this conclusion care to enlighten me? A UK Parliamentary report said that delaying lockdown caused thousands of unecessary deaths. And a report by Imperial College found that imposing a national lockdown 1 week earlier would have saved 21,000 lives. Maybe they were what the poster was alluding to.I think we all know by now delaying a lockdown does not stop a virus look at how quick they stopped S Africa it didnt make a blind bit of difference to the uk or the rest of Europe. You asked a question. I answered it. It's not my fault you don't believe reality." yeah an answer from 2020 i think they know so much more now but nice try. | |||
"Whatever previous view you had of Johnson, has it changed? Yes, he is an even bigger cunt than I thought he was Fair point. However, it's a claim I can't make. My view of those who make excuses for him, who support him, who vote for his Party hasn't changed either. Due to his leadership (if you can call it that) tens of thousands of UK citizens met avoidable deaths. Enough said.you keep repeating this mantra but never tell anyone how you have come to this conclusion care to enlighten me? A UK Parliamentary report said that delaying lockdown caused thousands of unecessary deaths. And a report by Imperial College found that imposing a national lockdown 1 week earlier would have saved 21,000 lives. Maybe they were what the poster was alluding to.I think we all know by now delaying a lockdown does not stop a virus look at how quick they stopped S Africa it didnt make a blind bit of difference to the uk or the rest of Europe. You asked a question. I answered it. It's not my fault you don't believe reality." Your better of telling lies. Boris fans tend to believe bull shit over facts | |||
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"Who cars what a load of rabid lefties think… they want the welfare state to take care of their kids from their various fathers and get free council houses….. " Cars? Most of the unemployed and people on benefits vote Tory | |||
""Boris sometimes seems affronted when criticised for what amounts to a gross failure of responsibility. I think he honestly believes that it is churlish of us not to regard him as an exception, one who should be free of the network of obligation which binds everyone else." Is that a quote from last week? From 2016? No, it is from 1982, by a teacher at Eton." 
Maybe his heroes include Kim Jong | |||
"Who cars what a load of rabid lefties think… they want the welfare state to take care of their kids from their various fathers and get free council houses….. Cars? Most of the unemployed and people on benefits vote Tory " are you sure? | |||
"Who cars what a load of rabid lefties think… they want the welfare state to take care of their kids from their various fathers and get free council houses….. Cars? Most of the unemployed and people on benefits vote Tory are you sure? " Yeah | |||
"Who cars what a load of rabid lefties think… they want the welfare state to take care of their kids from their various fathers and get free council houses….. " That's very specific. What about rabid lefties who don't have kids, what do they want? | |||
"Who cars what a load of rabid lefties think… they want the welfare state to take care of their kids from their various fathers and get free council houses….. Cars? Most of the unemployed and people on benefits vote Tory are you sure? Yeah " why would people on benefits vote for torys? Always hear on here how the torys hate the poor,seems strange those people would vote for a party that hates them,you seem so sure though so you must be correct | |||
"Who cars what a load of rabid lefties think… they want the welfare state to take care of their kids from their various fathers and get free council houses….. Cars? Most of the unemployed and people on benefits vote Tory are you sure? Yeah why would people on benefits vote for torys? Always hear on here how the torys hate the poor,seems strange those people would vote for a party that hates them,you seem so sure though so you must be correct" No idea, no offence but why do you care? | |||
"Who cars what a load of rabid lefties think… they want the welfare state to take care of their kids from their various fathers and get free council houses….. " What about the middle income right wingers that are also on the tit i.e don’t pay enough tax to be net contributors? How do we address those? Do they get cars too? You’d be surprised how high up the you need to go to technically be a scrounger | |||
"Who cars what a load of rabid lefties think… they want the welfare state to take care of their kids from their various fathers and get free council houses….. Cars? Most of the unemployed and people on benefits vote Tory are you sure? Yeah why would people on benefits vote for torys? Always hear on here how the torys hate the poor,seems strange those people would vote for a party that hates them,you seem so sure though so you must be correct No idea, no offence but why do you care? " just wonderd how you knew all dole ites were tory voters,like i said seems a bit strange for people to vote for a party that hates them but it must be true as you seem so sure,i dont care who they vote for to be honest with you but you must have some inside knowledge of how those on benefits vote,unless your saying stuff with no actual evidence | |||
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"Most of the media is on the right or hadn't you noticed. Tell it to my friends and family that we have moved on. My aunt died alone and my uncle died of a broken heart a few months later. Funerals nope. 2 friends died with no family around, yes I'm over it. " Why no funeral? immediate family were always allowed to attend. | |||
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"Only a few family members, no going back to a house, sat on our own. My uncle sat there on his own weeping apparently. I'm guessing you never went to a lock down funeral. Just think what the Queen was thinking meanwhile party time at number 10. I had to censor myself there " You would guess wrong then, wakes were banned thats true but thats not the funeral, the venue dictated how many people went and yes everyone had to social distance but they took place with people there. | |||
"Only a few family members, no going back to a house, sat on our own. My uncle sat there on his own weeping apparently. I'm guessing you never went to a lock down funeral. Just think what the Queen was thinking meanwhile party time at number 10. I had to censor myself there You would guess wrong then, wakes were banned thats true but thats not the funeral, the venue dictated how many people went and yes everyone had to social distance but they took place with people there." Dear god, your scr*ping the barrel , how low will you go in order to defend your hero Boris, sad to see | |||
"Who cars what a load of rabid lefties think… they want the welfare state to take care of their kids from their various fathers and get free council houses….. Cars? Most of the unemployed and people on benefits vote Tory are you sure? Yeah why would people on benefits vote for torys? Always hear on here how the torys hate the poor,seems strange those people would vote for a party that hates them,you seem so sure though so you must be correct No idea, no offence but why do you care? just wonderd how you knew all dole ites were tory voters,like i said seems a bit strange for people to vote for a party that hates them but it must be true as you seem so sure,i dont care who they vote for to be honest with you but you must have some inside knowledge of how those on benefits vote,unless your saying stuff with no actual evidence" I didn’t say ‘all dole ites were tories’ anyway, your usual response to anything on here is, who cares, both sides are the same, all MPs are the same, remainers and leavers are the same, left and right are the same, I never vote etc etc so why the sudden interest ? | |||
"Who cars what a load of rabid lefties think… they want the welfare state to take care of their kids from their various fathers and get free council houses….. " What about the less than rabid lefties who have served their Queen and country then both worked front line of two emergency services serving the public.. Who have never been on 'welfare', did qualify for child allowance mind and have only ever owned their own homes? What, in your infinite wisdom no doubt gained by your year's of life experiences do you think they want? Apart from expecting competence, honesty, integrity and a level of moral equivalence higher than an alley cat from those who 'lead' the government.. | |||
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"I think for the majority of voters they chose him because they like a little gamble, at the time there wasn't really much of real a real choice. Now we've spent these two years seeing what he is like, its like buyers remorse for many now. Looks like they taking him back to the shop and getting a replacement at the next GE. There is no shame really in not voting for him or his party now, I think it has made it easier for true blue tories to reassess their choices, do they want a competent government, which can bring stability, or do they want a chaotic government, which is changeable as the wind? I don't think we should bat those who have doubts about being a Conservative supporter, rather we should be extending the hand of friendship, and saying it's ok we understand. " Well said.. It's not easy to fess up and admit you've been duped, especially by someone so adept at doing so.. | |||
"I think for the majority of voters they chose him because they like a little gamble, at the time there wasn't really much of real a real choice. Now we've spent these two years seeing what he is like, its like buyers remorse for many now. Looks like they taking him back to the shop and getting a replacement at the next GE. There is no shame really in not voting for him or his party now, I think it has made it easier for true blue tories to reassess their choices, do they want a competent government, which can bring stability, or do they want a chaotic government, which is changeable as the wind? I don't think we should bat those who have doubts about being a Conservative supporter, rather we should be extending the hand of friendship, and saying it's ok we understand. " The last paragraph, is of course, total and unmitigated bollocks. Anyone with an ounce of sense only has to read the thread titled "Tories" to realise what a blatant lie that is. If Johnson stays as PM, the Tories will win by a small margin at the next GE. If he resigns before then, the Tories will win by a big margin. Yet again. | |||
"I think for the majority of voters they chose him because they like a little gamble, at the time there wasn't really much of real a real choice. Now we've spent these two years seeing what he is like, its like buyers remorse for many now. Looks like they taking him back to the shop and getting a replacement at the next GE. There is no shame really in not voting for him or his party now, I think it has made it easier for true blue tories to reassess their choices, do they want a competent government, which can bring stability, or do they want a chaotic government, which is changeable as the wind? I don't think we should bat those who have doubts about being a Conservative supporter, rather we should be extending the hand of friendship, and saying it's ok we understand. The last paragraph, is of course, total and unmitigated bollocks. Anyone with an ounce of sense only has to read the thread titled "Tories" to realise what a blatant lie that is. If Johnson stays as PM, the Tories will win by a small margin at the next GE. If he resigns before then, the Tories will win by a big margin. Yet again. " It's ok, I understand. | |||
"I think for the majority of voters they chose him because they like a little gamble, at the time there wasn't really much of real a real choice. Now we've spent these two years seeing what he is like, its like buyers remorse for many now. Looks like they taking him back to the shop and getting a replacement at the next GE. There is no shame really in not voting for him or his party now, I think it has made it easier for true blue tories to reassess their choices, do they want a competent government, which can bring stability, or do they want a chaotic government, which is changeable as the wind? I don't think we should bat those who have doubts about being a Conservative supporter, rather we should be extending the hand of friendship, and saying it's ok we understand. The last paragraph, is of course, total and unmitigated bollocks. Anyone with an ounce of sense only has to read the thread titled "Tories" to realise what a blatant lie that is. If Johnson stays as PM, the Tories will win by a small margin at the next GE. If he resigns before then, the Tories will win by a big margin. Yet again. " Yeah I agree. Conservative voters don't care how badly Boris and the government fuck us over. They will vote for them again and again. | |||
"I think for the majority of voters they chose him because they like a little gamble, at the time there wasn't really much of real a real choice. Now we've spent these two years seeing what he is like, its like buyers remorse for many now. Looks like they taking him back to the shop and getting a replacement at the next GE. There is no shame really in not voting for him or his party now, I think it has made it easier for true blue tories to reassess their choices, do they want a competent government, which can bring stability, or do they want a chaotic government, which is changeable as the wind? I don't think we should bat those who have doubts about being a Conservative supporter, rather we should be extending the hand of friendship, and saying it's ok we understand. The last paragraph, is of course, total and unmitigated bollocks. Anyone with an ounce of sense only has to read the thread titled "Tories" to realise what a blatant lie that is. If Johnson stays as PM, the Tories will win by a small margin at the next GE. If he resigns before then, the Tories will win by a big margin. Yet again. Yeah I agree. Conservative voters don't care how badly Boris and the government fuck us over. They will vote for them again and again. " Of course they will, because they're the best option available. Whose fault is that? | |||
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"I think for the majority of voters they chose him because they like a little gamble, at the time there wasn't really much of real a real choice. Now we've spent these two years seeing what he is like, its like buyers remorse for many now. Looks like they taking him back to the shop and getting a replacement at the next GE. There is no shame really in not voting for him or his party now, I think it has made it easier for true blue tories to reassess their choices, do they want a competent government, which can bring stability, or do they want a chaotic government, which is changeable as the wind? I don't think we should bat those who have doubts about being a Conservative supporter, rather we should be extending the hand of friendship, and saying it's ok we understand. The last paragraph, is of course, total and unmitigated bollocks. Anyone with an ounce of sense only has to read the thread titled "Tories" to realise what a blatant lie that is. If Johnson stays as PM, the Tories will win by a small margin at the next GE. If he resigns before then, the Tories will win by a big margin. Yet again. Yeah I agree. Conservative voters don't care how badly Boris and the government fuck us over. They will vote for them again and again. Of course they will, because they're the best option available. Whose fault is that?" I've no idea why you have no aspirations not to be fucked over by our government. Or who you blame. | |||
" Of course they will, because they're the best option available. Whose fault is that?" As a matter of interest, why do you think that the man who led the most successful team that that COS ever had would be a worse leader of the country than a man who lies as easily as he breathes? What constitutes Leadership to you? Even without Johnson - reports today that £8.7 billion of the £12.1 1billion spent on PPE by this Govt has been written off. The catalogue of catastrophic and costly mistakes by successive Conservative (and majority Conservative coalition) since 2010 is a book with no ending. I am interested in why you personally think there is no alternative to such utter incompetence? What newspapers do you read FFS. | |||
"I think for the majority of voters they chose him because they like a little gamble, at the time there wasn't really much of real a real choice. Now we've spent these two years seeing what he is like, its like buyers remorse for many now. Looks like they taking him back to the shop and getting a replacement at the next GE. There is no shame really in not voting for him or his party now, I think it has made it easier for true blue tories to reassess their choices, do they want a competent government, which can bring stability, or do they want a chaotic government, which is changeable as the wind? I don't think we should bat those who have doubts about being a Conservative supporter, rather we should be extending the hand of friendship, and saying it's ok we understand. The last paragraph, is of course, total and unmitigated bollocks. Anyone with an ounce of sense only has to read the thread titled "Tories" to realise what a blatant lie that is. If Johnson stays as PM, the Tories will win by a small margin at the next GE. If he resigns before then, the Tories will win by a big margin. Yet again. Yeah I agree. Conservative voters don't care how badly Boris and the government fuck us over. They will vote for them again and again. " I tend to disagree, I think there are many Conservative voters who are now in the " I am not voting for this party" group now, they are looking for alternatives now, either reform or lib-dems, I wouldn't say many are going to vote labour, or they will stay at home come Election time, so I think they understand that this cannot continue anymore, its no longer a vocal minority now, it a very vocal majority, one thing I can say, Conservative voters can be just as ruthless. Which is fine. | |||
"I think for the majority of voters they chose him because they like a little gamble, at the time there wasn't really much of real a real choice. Now we've spent these two years seeing what he is like, its like buyers remorse for many now. Looks like they taking him back to the shop and getting a replacement at the next GE. There is no shame really in not voting for him or his party now, I think it has made it easier for true blue tories to reassess their choices, do they want a competent government, which can bring stability, or do they want a chaotic government, which is changeable as the wind? I don't think we should bat those who have doubts about being a Conservative supporter, rather we should be extending the hand of friendship, and saying it's ok we understand. The last paragraph, is of course, total and unmitigated bollocks. Anyone with an ounce of sense only has to read the thread titled "Tories" to realise what a blatant lie that is. If Johnson stays as PM, the Tories will win by a small margin at the next GE. If he resigns before then, the Tories will win by a big margin. Yet again. Yeah I agree. Conservative voters don't care how badly Boris and the government fuck us over. They will vote for them again and again. Of course they will, because they're the best option available. Whose fault is that?" Boris is the best option available for the tories? That is worrying | |||
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"I think for the majority of voters they chose him because they like a little gamble, at the time there wasn't really much of real a real choice. Now we've spent these two years seeing what he is like, its like buyers remorse for many now. Looks like they taking him back to the shop and getting a replacement at the next GE. There is no shame really in not voting for him or his party now, I think it has made it easier for true blue tories to reassess their choices, do they want a competent government, which can bring stability, or do they want a chaotic government, which is changeable as the wind? I don't think we should bat those who have doubts about being a Conservative supporter, rather we should be extending the hand of friendship, and saying it's ok we understand. The last paragraph, is of course, total and unmitigated bollocks. Anyone with an ounce of sense only has to read the thread titled "Tories" to realise what a blatant lie that is. If Johnson stays as PM, the Tories will win by a small margin at the next GE. If he resigns before then, the Tories will win by a big margin. Yet again. Yeah I agree. Conservative voters don't care how badly Boris and the government fuck us over. They will vote for them again and again. Of course they will, because they're the best option available. Whose fault is that? Boris is the best option available for the tories? That is worrying " What is even more worrying is that the Uk seemingly think Tories are the best choice and that Boris is the best if that bunch. It just goes to shows what an excellent job the ‘elites’ have done in dividing society for their benefit. You have to hand to those with the real power - who “control the media narrative” and leverage every opportunity to get the 95% to be divided so that the 1% can thrive. | |||
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"It's so difficult, imagine trying to bring up kids not to lie and obey the rules yet our prime minister does that all the time with the blessing from the English public. We are so much better then this yet " We're not. It's time we accept that truth. | |||
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"Wow, you chaps have short memories. Here's a reminder. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45030552 Good people don't forget racist bullies and they sure as hell don't vote for them. " But it is ok for “good people” to vote to impoverish huge swathes of the country to enrich the few? Is that your point? | |||
"Wow, you chaps have short memories. Here's a reminder. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45030552 Good people don't forget racist bullies and they sure as hell don't vote for them. But it is ok for “good people” to vote to impoverish huge swathes of the country to enrich the few? Is that your point? " I think I'd rather be a poor good person than a racist old girl. Some of us do have principles. | |||
"Wow, you chaps have short memories. Here's a reminder. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45030552 Good people don't forget racist bullies and they sure as hell don't vote for them. But it is ok for “good people” to vote to impoverish huge swathes of the country to enrich the few? Is that your point? I think I'd rather be a poor good person than a racist old girl. Some of us do have principles. "I’d wholeheartedly agree. But both parties have had big accusations against them from various quarters. Only one actively seeks to impoverish those who are not rich. So again there’s an element of choice. This racist here, or this other racist who also wants to be racist and make people poor. Is that how these principles you mention operate? | |||
"Who cars what a load of rabid lefties think… they want the welfare state to take care of their kids from their various fathers and get free council houses….. Cars? Most of the unemployed and people on benefits vote Tory are you sure? Yeah why would people on benefits vote for torys? Always hear on here how the torys hate the poor,seems strange those people would vote for a party that hates them,you seem so sure though so you must be correct No idea, no offence but why do you care? just wonderd how you knew all dole ites were tory voters,like i said seems a bit strange for people to vote for a party that hates them but it must be true as you seem so sure,i dont care who they vote for to be honest with you but you must have some inside knowledge of how those on benefits vote,unless your saying stuff with no actual evidence I didn’t say ‘all dole ites were tories’ anyway, your usual response to anything on here is, who cares, both sides are the same, all MPs are the same, remainers and leavers are the same, left and right are the same, I never vote etc etc so why the sudden interest ? "told you plenty of times i can comment on any thread i like as long as i dont break the rules,just like coming in for the giggles and watching everyone preach about why the other side is so bad for the country,reality is none of them care about the great unwashed,and you did say most unemployed and people on benefits vote tory i just wonderd how you know that,you must have proof of this or is that just your opinion? | |||
"Who cars what a load of rabid lefties think… they want the welfare state to take care of their kids from their various fathers and get free council houses….. Cars? Most of the unemployed and people on benefits vote Tory are you sure? Yeah why would people on benefits vote for torys? Always hear on here how the torys hate the poor,seems strange those people would vote for a party that hates them,you seem so sure though so you must be correct No idea, no offence but why do you care? just wonderd how you knew all dole ites were tory voters,like i said seems a bit strange for people to vote for a party that hates them but it must be true as you seem so sure,i dont care who they vote for to be honest with you but you must have some inside knowledge of how those on benefits vote,unless your saying stuff with no actual evidence I didn’t say ‘all dole ites were tories’ anyway, your usual response to anything on here is, who cares, both sides are the same, all MPs are the same, remainers and leavers are the same, left and right are the same, I never vote etc etc so why the sudden interest ? told you plenty of times i can comment on any thread i like as long as i dont break the rules,just like coming in for the giggles and watching everyone preach about why the other side is so bad for the country,reality is none of them care about the great unwashed,and you did say most unemployed and people on benefits vote tory i just wonderd how you know that,you must have proof of this or is that just your opinion?"Yeah, I have proof | |||
"Who cars what a load of rabid lefties think… they want the welfare state to take care of their kids from their various fathers and get free council houses….. Cars? Most of the unemployed and people on benefits vote Tory are you sure? Yeah why would people on benefits vote for torys? Always hear on here how the torys hate the poor,seems strange those people would vote for a party that hates them,you seem so sure though so you must be correct No idea, no offence but why do you care? just wonderd how you knew all dole ites were tory voters,like i said seems a bit strange for people to vote for a party that hates them but it must be true as you seem so sure,i dont care who they vote for to be honest with you but you must have some inside knowledge of how those on benefits vote,unless your saying stuff with no actual evidence I didn’t say ‘all dole ites were tories’ anyway, your usual response to anything on here is, who cares, both sides are the same, all MPs are the same, remainers and leavers are the same, left and right are the same, I never vote etc etc so why the sudden interest ? told you plenty of times i can comment on any thread i like as long as i dont break the rules,just like coming in for the giggles and watching everyone preach about why the other side is so bad for the country,reality is none of them care about the great unwashed,and you did say most unemployed and people on benefits vote tory i just wonderd how you know that,you must have proof of this or is that just your opinion?
Yeah, I have proof "care to share that proof with everyone? | |||
"I think for the majority of voters they chose him because they like a little gamble, at the time there wasn't really much of real a real choice. Now we've spent these two years seeing what he is like, its like buyers remorse for many now. Looks like they taking him back to the shop and getting a replacement at the next GE. There is no shame really in not voting for him or his party now, I think it has made it easier for true blue tories to reassess their choices, do they want a competent government, which can bring stability, or do they want a chaotic government, which is changeable as the wind? I don't think we should bat those who have doubts about being a Conservative supporter, rather we should be extending the hand of friendship, and saying it's ok we understand. The last paragraph, is of course, total and unmitigated bollocks. Anyone with an ounce of sense only has to read the thread titled "Tories" to realise what a blatant lie that is. If Johnson stays as PM, the Tories will win by a small margin at the next GE. If he resigns before then, the Tories will win by a big margin. Yet again. Yeah I agree. Conservative voters don't care how badly Boris and the government fuck us over. They will vote for them again and again. I tend to disagree, I think there are many Conservative voters who are now in the " I am not voting for this party" group now, they are looking for alternatives now, either reform or lib-dems, I wouldn't say many are going to vote labour, or they will stay at home come Election time, so I think they understand that this cannot continue anymore, its no longer a vocal minority now, it a very vocal majority, one thing I can say, Conservative voters can be just as ruthless. Which is fine." I'm sure there are some. But I don't think it will be enough to end the Tories being in government. As the Tories on here keep hammering home to us. They literally don't care about being lied to, fucked over, having their taxes handed directly to Conservative party donors, being laughed at by partying super toffs while 1,000 people a day died of covid, islamaphobia, having environmental protections & safety standards removed from them etc etc. And I for one, completely believe them. | |||
"Wow, you chaps have short memories. Here's a reminder. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45030552 Good people don't forget racist bullies and they sure as hell don't vote for them. But it is ok for “good people” to vote to impoverish huge swathes of the country to enrich the few? Is that your point? I think I'd rather be a poor good person than a racist old girl. Some of us do have principles. "Tory voters calling other people racist for not voting Tory is right up there with "brexit is a good idea", and "covid is a conspiracy" tin foil hat wearing comedy nonsense. | |||
"Wow, you chaps have short memories. Here's a reminder. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45030552 Good people don't forget racist bullies and they sure as hell don't vote for them. But it is ok for “good people” to vote to impoverish huge swathes of the country to enrich the few? Is that your point? I think I'd rather be a poor good person than a racist old girl. Some of us do have principles.
Tory voters calling other people racist for not voting Tory is right up there with "brexit is a good idea", and "covid is a conspiracy" tin foil hat wearing comedy nonsense. "True, I am starting to wonder if Fab has been infiltrated with bots, | |||
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"Most of the media is on the right or hadn't you noticed. Tell it to my friends and family that we have moved on. My aunt died alone and my uncle died of a broken heart a few months later. Funerals nope. 2 friends died with no family around, yes I'm over it. " Other family members of the wife of the prime minister might or might not have "owned" a newspaper. Being independant is about making ones own choices. Just sayin | |||
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