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"Instead of touching his shoulder with the sword they should cut his head off with it." Classy. Top quality people here on Fab. Fuck due process, ignore the fact that multiple enquiries found that he acted entirelycorrectly, conveniently ignore Cameron’s Libya disaster and gleefully encourage the beheading of the most successful post-WW2 Prime Minister in British history. This why our country is broken. | |||
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"Funny old world where you get knighted for taking your country to war on false pretext and dodgy evidence. No wmds anywhere to found still!." it is isnt a funny old world where if you donate £1.5MILLION to the Tory party you also get a knighthood I know which one bothers ne the most it ain't the one that's been awarded to every former prime minister for 100s of years | |||
"Funny old world where you get knighted for taking your country to war on false pretext and dodgy evidence. No wmds anywhere to found still!.it is isnt a funny old world where if you donate £1.5MILLION to the Tory party you also get a knighthood I know which one bothers ne the most it ain't the one that's been awarded to every former prime minister for 100s of years " The honours system is corrupt. Yes the odd one deserves it, e.g sir Tom, but plenty shitbaggs get it too.. Teflon Tony blair for services against humanity (hundreds of thousands dead) and iain Duncan-Smith for services against the vulnerable and poor and increasing suicide amongst the people | |||
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"“where if you donate £1.5MILLION to the Tory party you also get a knighthood” But if you get the Queen out of the shit after her handling of Diana’s death, help Clinton broker peace in Northern Ireland, and donate ALL the proceeds of your autobiography (including a £4.6 million advance) to the Royal British Legion, Fabbers would still see him imprisoned or have his head cut off. Read his memoirs (better still, BUY them and support the British Legion) and THEN judge the man..." Oh so you can buy your way out .. That's the usual MO | |||
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"Instead of touching his shoulder with the sword they should cut his head off with it. Classy. Top quality people here on Fab. Fuck due process, ignore the fact that multiple enquiries found that he acted entirelycorrectly, conveniently ignore Cameron’s Libya disaster and gleefully encourage the beheading of the most successful post-WW2 Prime Minister in British history. This why our country is broken." I did not think that anyone would think I was being serious. I would never seriously encourage anybody to take another persons life - that would make me as bad as Tony Blair.( who this thread is about) You may think the country is broken but my comment on a swingers website is certainly not the reason. | |||
"Funny old world where you get knighted for taking your country to war on false pretext and dodgy evidence. No wmds anywhere to found still!.it is isnt a funny old world where if you donate £1.5MILLION to the Tory party you also get a knighthood I know which one bothers ne the most it ain't the one that's been awarded to every former prime minister for 100s of years " Certainly is, both are wrong and immoral in my book. I only referred to Tony Blair as that was what the op was about. I dont care what there political allegiances are. I believe a knighthood should be given for something more than doing the job you chose to do or donating money to a political party or a charitable cause, it should be something more than that, for instance in the last couple of years I think there are some people in our NHS service that deserve one far more but thats just my opinion. | |||
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"Instead of touching his shoulder with the sword they should cut his head off with it. Classy. Top quality people here on Fab. Fuck due process, ignore the fact that multiple enquiries found that he acted entirelycorrectly, conveniently ignore Cameron’s Libya disaster and gleefully encourage the beheading of the most successful post-WW2 Prime Minister in British history. This why our country is broken." well fuck me your the last person I’d of thought was for the Iraq war lol | |||
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"have alook at the date what is about to happen what do the right wing media and the govt need to distract the plebs from ? ha thats right Brexit fully kicks in hmmm lets give Tony Blaire a knighthood that will keep both the left and the right busy in a frothing frenzy for the next few weeks and as usual the plebs have took it hook line and sinker " The New Years Honours List is traditionally announced on.... New Years Day! 
As I pointed out above, Tony Blair's Knighthood was made solely by the Monarch, without any political input. | |||
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"have alook at the date what is about to happen what do the right wing media and the govt need to distract the plebs from ? ha thats right Brexit fully kicks in hmmm lets give Tony Blaire a knighthood that will keep both the left and the right busy in a frothing frenzy for the next few weeks and as usual the plebs have took it hook line and sinker The New Years Honours List is traditionally announced on.... New Years Day!
As I pointed out above, Tony Blair's Knighthood was made solely by the Monarch, without any political input. "Yes but wil be associated with the wars A friend of mine took his life recently, so fuck it, I'll sign the petition | |||
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"Not signing it don’t see the point " The honours list is cobblers. Lewis Hamilton is on it even though he lives in Monaco to avoid tax | |||
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"Let’s put this into context 1. Invasion of Iraq, put a tyrant who terrorised his own people with chemical weapons out of power, evidence was later proven to be dodgy, but the moral justification for removing such a regime was correct, think about this, it was the tories who we’re cosying up with saddam In the 80’s and providing him with support against Iran. 2. The labour government he led when In power did the following: Sure start Minimum wage Tax credits Pupil premium Reduced childhood poverty Built new schools Fixed, repaired, renewed hospitals Reduced waiting times for appointments Warm homes policy The trust fund which was guaranteed Good Friday agreement Devolution Civil partnerships Freedom of information act Human rights act ASBO’s PCSO’s Paying the police properly Paying teachers properly Paying hospital staff properly Increased aspiration for millions of people to go university Life expectancy increased Blair was and still is a patriot, he sought to protect this nation after 9/11, people will say he made the wrong choices, but being a proper leader is about making choices, unlike this current PM who demonstrates daily how not to be a statesman and flip flops like a fish out of water. How easily we forget. In the many years of tory rule, we’ve gone backwards, we’ve become the poor and sick man of Europe again, our public services trashed, our education system in shambles, our NHS ruined, our social care system broken, our cost of living increase. So for the achievements he brought then he should have the honour, if he didn’t do anything which brought positive change to the country then yeah I would be the first to say he shouldn’t have it. " Re: fixing hospitals, he went along the lines of privitisation. Secondly, and more to the point, he was always playing second fiddle to Bush. We weren't equals to America, we were the lap dogs to dodgy American foreign policy. One German minister, I forget his name, stood upto Bush about the voracity of American intelligence and voted against the UN resolution to invade, before the USA decided to trample international law, and launch an illegal war. Ee should have stood upto America too but just like the gimp to America, we were dragged into an illegal war. Yes he did positive things as you mentioned, BUT, small compared to THE MASSIVE flaw of being Bush's yes man, a spineless whimp. Why do you think the only other country to be dragged into America's illegal war was us? The German government was one that saw through the crap, along with many other countries | |||
"Let’s put this into context 1. Invasion of Iraq, put a tyrant who terrorised his own people with chemical weapons out of power, evidence was later proven to be dodgy, but the moral justification for removing such a regime was correct, think about this, it was the tories who we’re cosying up with saddam In the 80’s and providing him with support against Iran. 2. The labour government he led when In power did the following: Sure start Minimum wage Tax credits Pupil premium Reduced childhood poverty Built new schools Fixed, repaired, renewed hospitals Reduced waiting times for appointments Warm homes policy The trust fund which was guaranteed Good Friday agreement Devolution Civil partnerships Freedom of information act Human rights act ASBO’s PCSO’s Paying the police properly Paying teachers properly Paying hospital staff properly Increased aspiration for millions of people to go university Life expectancy increased Blair was and still is a patriot, he sought to protect this nation after 9/11, people will say he made the wrong choices, but being a proper leader is about making choices, unlike this current PM who demonstrates daily how not to be a statesman and flip flops like a fish out of water. How easily we forget. In the many years of tory rule, we’ve gone backwards, we’ve become the poor and sick man of Europe again, our public services trashed, our education system in shambles, our NHS ruined, our social care system broken, our cost of living increase. So for the achievements he brought then he should have the honour, if he didn’t do anything which brought positive change to the country then yeah I would be the first to say he shouldn’t have it. " anyone who blows smoke up blairs arse is as moraly bankrupt as he is | |||
"Let’s put this into context 1. Invasion of Iraq, put a tyrant who terrorised his own people with chemical weapons out of power, evidence was later proven to be dodgy, but the moral justification for removing such a regime was correct, think about this, it was the tories who we’re cosying up with saddam In the 80’s and providing him with support against Iran. 2. The labour government he led when In power did the following: Sure start Minimum wage Tax credits Pupil premium Reduced childhood poverty Built new schools Fixed, repaired, renewed hospitals Reduced waiting times for appointments Warm homes policy The trust fund which was guaranteed Good Friday agreement Devolution Civil partnerships Freedom of information act Human rights act ASBO’s PCSO’s Paying the police properly Paying teachers properly Paying hospital staff properly Increased aspiration for millions of people to go university Life expectancy increased Blair was and still is a patriot, he sought to protect this nation after 9/11, people will say he made the wrong choices, but being a proper leader is about making choices, unlike this current PM who demonstrates daily how not to be a statesman and flip flops like a fish out of water. How easily we forget. In the many years of tory rule, we’ve gone backwards, we’ve become the poor and sick man of Europe again, our public services trashed, our education system in shambles, our NHS ruined, our social care system broken, our cost of living increase. So for the achievements he brought then he should have the honour, if he didn’t do anything which brought positive change to the country then yeah I would be the first to say he shouldn’t have it. Re: fixing hospitals, he went along the lines of privitisation. Secondly, and more to the point, he was always playing second fiddle to Bush. We weren't equals to America, we were the lap dogs to dodgy American foreign policy. One German minister, I forget his name, stood upto Bush about the voracity of American intelligence and voted against the UN resolution to invade, before the USA decided to trample international law, and launch an illegal war. Ee should have stood upto America too but just like the gimp to America, we were dragged into an illegal war. Yes he did positive things as you mentioned, BUT, small compared to THE MASSIVE flaw of being Bush's yes man, a spineless whimp. Why do you think the only other country to be dragged into America's illegal war was us? The German government was one that saw through the crap, along with many other countries " It does always make me laugh when I see the lefties on here harp on about the conservatives are going to privatise the NHS. When in fact the last Labour government under Blair have already done it to certain parts. Hospitals with the PPI scheme, plus GP surgeries and dental practices. | |||
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"It does always make me laugh when I see the lefties on here harp on about the conservatives are going to privatise the NHS. When in fact the last Labour government under Blair have already done it to certain parts. Hospitals with the PPI scheme, plus GP surgeries and dental practices." Ermm.. I suggest that you Check what I wrote properly | |||
"Let’s put this into context 1. Invasion of Iraq, put a tyrant who terrorised his own people with chemical weapons out of power, evidence was later proven to be dodgy, but the moral justification for removing such a regime was correct, think about this, it was the tories who we’re cosying up with saddam In the 80’s and providing him with support against Iran. 2. The labour government he led when In power did the following: Sure start Minimum wage Tax credits Pupil premium Reduced childhood poverty Built new schools Fixed, repaired, renewed hospitals Reduced waiting times for appointments Warm homes policy The trust fund which was guaranteed Good Friday agreement Devolution Civil partnerships Freedom of information act Human rights act ASBO’s PCSO’s Paying the police properly Paying teachers properly Paying hospital staff properly Increased aspiration for millions of people to go university Life expectancy increased Blair was and still is a patriot, he sought to protect this nation after 9/11, people will say he made the wrong choices, but being a proper leader is about making choices, unlike this current PM who demonstrates daily how not to be a statesman and flip flops like a fish out of water. How easily we forget. In the many years of tory rule, we’ve gone backwards, we’ve become the poor and sick man of Europe again, our public services trashed, our education system in shambles, our NHS ruined, our social care system broken, our cost of living increase. So for the achievements he brought then he should have the honour, if he didn’t do anything which brought positive change to the country then yeah I would be the first to say he shouldn’t have it. Re: fixing hospitals, he went along the lines of privitisation. Secondly, and more to the point, he was always playing second fiddle to Bush. We weren't equals to America, we were the lap dogs to dodgy American foreign policy. One German minister, I forget his name, stood upto Bush about the voracity of American intelligence and voted against the UN resolution to invade, before the USA decided to trample international law, and launch an illegal war. Ee should have stood upto America too but just like the gimp to America, we were dragged into an illegal war. Yes he did positive things as you mentioned, BUT, small compared to THE MASSIVE flaw of being Bush's yes man, a spineless whimp. Why do you think the only other country to be dragged into America's illegal war was us? The German government was one that saw through the crap, along with many other countries It does always make me laugh when I see the lefties on here harp on about the conservatives are going to privatise the NHS. When in fact the last Labour government under Blair have already done it to certain parts. Hospitals with the PPI scheme, plus GP surgeries and dental practices." The Public Private Partnership saved the NHS, after the chronic underfunding of 18 years of tory mismanagement. It was a third way, the tories are more interested in selling the NHS and creaming profits so their friends can benefit. What labour did was to make capitalism benefit the rest of society. That cannot be denied as you can see now, Personal Protection Equipment contracts being won by tory cronies with millions of pounds being distributed to the top as an example. It’s kinda rich when the tories say they are investing in the NHS, when the money ends up in their friends pockets. | |||
"“where if you donate £1.5MILLION to the Tory party you also get a knighthood” But if you get the Queen out of the shit after her handling of Diana’s death, help Clinton broker peace in Northern Ireland, and donate ALL the proceeds of your autobiography (including a £4.6 million advance) to the Royal British Legion, Fabbers would still see him imprisoned or have his head cut off. Read his memoirs (better still, BUY them and support the British Legion) and THEN judge the man..." If you checked the facts John Major did all the leg work in the 4 years of talks and deals prior to Bliar stepping in for 2 months and claiming all the glory for N Ireland. Also he was NOT vindicated over Iraq and WMD. There were no WMD. Yanks knew it, HE knew it and now we ALL know it. | |||
"“where if you donate £1.5MILLION to the Tory party you also get a knighthood” But if you get the Queen out of the shit after her handling of Diana’s death, help Clinton broker peace in Northern Ireland, and donate ALL the proceeds of your autobiography (including a £4.6 million advance) to the Royal British Legion, Fabbers would still see him imprisoned or have his head cut off. Read his memoirs (better still, BUY them and support the British Legion) and THEN judge the man... If you checked the facts John Major did all the leg work in the 4 years of talks and deals prior to Bliar stepping in for 2 months and claiming all the glory for N Ireland. Also he was NOT vindicated over Iraq and WMD. There were no WMD. Yanks knew it, HE knew it and now we ALL know it."  | |||
"“where if you donate £1.5MILLION to the Tory party you also get a knighthood” But if you get the Queen out of the shit after her handling of Diana’s death, help Clinton broker peace in Northern Ireland, and donate ALL the proceeds of your autobiography (including a £4.6 million advance) to the Royal British Legion, Fabbers would still see him imprisoned or have his head cut off. Read his memoirs (better still, BUY them and support the British Legion) and THEN judge the man... If you checked the facts John Major did all the leg work in the 4 years of talks and deals prior to Bliar stepping in for 2 months and claiming all the glory for N Ireland. Also he was NOT vindicated over Iraq and WMD. There were no WMD. Yanks knew it, HE knew it and now we ALL know it. "What about Kosovo and Sierra Leone?, he did good there, again people forget that happened also, but he toppled a dictator who killed his own civilians, when the allied forces took Baghdad and the people toppled the statue of saddam it was justified, to those people who say it wasn’t morally right to overthrow tyranny like that, bringing democracy is a painful process, it post reconstruction was poorly handled, but nation building isn’t going to happen overnight. We all talk about WMD’s but we forget the belligerence of Saddam with the Weapon inspectors, if we just keeled over, we could be the in situation of an Saddam with nuclear weapons like North Korea now, then what? It would be a case people saying we should have done something then. | |||
"“where if you donate £1.5MILLION to the Tory party you also get a knighthood” But if you get the Queen out of the shit after her handling of Diana’s death, help Clinton broker peace in Northern Ireland, and donate ALL the proceeds of your autobiography (including a £4.6 million advance) to the Royal British Legion, Fabbers would still see him imprisoned or have his head cut off. Read his memoirs (better still, BUY them and support the British Legion) and THEN judge the man... If you checked the facts John Major did all the leg work in the 4 years of talks and deals prior to Bliar stepping in for 2 months and claiming all the glory for N Ireland. Also he was NOT vindicated over Iraq and WMD. There were no WMD. Yanks knew it, HE knew it and now we ALL know it.
What about Kosovo and Sierra Leone?, he did good there, again people forget that happened also, but he toppled a dictator who killed his own civilians, when the allied forces took Baghdad and the people toppled the statue of saddam it was justified, to those people who say it wasn’t morally right to overthrow tyranny like that, bringing democracy is a painful process, it post reconstruction was poorly handled, but nation building isn’t going to happen overnight.
We all talk about WMD’s but we forget the belligerence of Saddam with the Weapon inspectors, if we just keeled over, we could be the in situation of an Saddam with nuclear weapons like North Korea now, then what? It would be a case people saying we should have done something then.
"With that logic, it can be aplied to Adolf Hitler.. What a great guy he was by eliminating unemployment, building autobhans, and he was a brilliant decorator, hanging paper and could paint a house out in one day.. Two coats too | |||
"“where if you donate £1.5MILLION to the Tory party you also get a knighthood” But if you get the Queen out of the shit after her handling of Diana’s death, help Clinton broker peace in Northern Ireland, and donate ALL the proceeds of your autobiography (including a £4.6 million advance) to the Royal British Legion, Fabbers would still see him imprisoned or have his head cut off. Read his memoirs (better still, BUY them and support the British Legion) and THEN judge the man... If you checked the facts John Major did all the leg work in the 4 years of talks and deals prior to Bliar stepping in for 2 months and claiming all the glory for N Ireland. Also he was NOT vindicated over Iraq and WMD. There were no WMD. Yanks knew it, HE knew it and now we ALL know it.
What about Kosovo and Sierra Leone?, he did good there, again people forget that happened also, but he toppled a dictator who killed his own civilians, when the allied forces took Baghdad and the people toppled the statue of saddam it was justified, to those people who say it wasn’t morally right to overthrow tyranny like that, bringing democracy is a painful process, it post reconstruction was poorly handled, but nation building isn’t going to happen overnight.
We all talk about WMD’s but we forget the belligerence of Saddam with the Weapon inspectors, if we just keeled over, we could be the in situation of an Saddam with nuclear weapons like North Korea now, then what? It would be a case people saying we should have done something then.
With that logic, it can be aplied to Adolf Hitler..
What a great guy he was by eliminating unemployment, building autobhans, and he was a brilliant decorator, hanging paper and could paint a house out in one day.. Two coats too
"That is cancelling logic with that argument. Typical ridiculous right mentality. | |||
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"“where if you donate £1.5MILLION to the Tory party you also get a knighthood” But if you get the Queen out of the shit after her handling of Diana’s death, help Clinton broker peace in Northern Ireland, and donate ALL the proceeds of your autobiography (including a £4.6 million advance) to the Royal British Legion, Fabbers would still see him imprisoned or have his head cut off. Read his memoirs (better still, BUY them and support the British Legion) and THEN judge the man... If you checked the facts John Major did all the leg work in the 4 years of talks and deals prior to Bliar stepping in for 2 months and claiming all the glory for N Ireland. Also he was NOT vindicated over Iraq and WMD. There were no WMD. Yanks knew it, HE knew it and now we ALL know it.
What about Kosovo and Sierra Leone?, he did good there, again people forget that happened also, but he toppled a dictator who killed his own civilians, when the allied forces took Baghdad and the people toppled the statue of saddam it was justified, to those people who say it wasn’t morally right to overthrow tyranny like that, bringing democracy is a painful process, it post reconstruction was poorly handled, but nation building isn’t going to happen overnight.
We all talk about WMD’s but we forget the belligerence of Saddam with the Weapon inspectors, if we just keeled over, we could be the in situation of an Saddam with nuclear weapons like North Korea now, then what? It would be a case people saying we should have done something then.
With that logic, it can be aplied to Adolf Hitler..
What a great guy he was by eliminating unemployment, building autobhans, and he was a brilliant decorator, hanging paper and could paint a house out in one day.. Two coats too
That is cancelling logic with that argument.
Typical ridiculous right mentality."Seig heil baby!  | |||
"another honour he shoul be serving a prison sentance not being knited" Knited. A wooly Tony Blair. Fantastic. | |||
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"Funny old world where you get knighted for taking your country to war on false pretext and dodgy evidence. No wmds anywhere to found still!." Beats being knighted for being a sex offender which is a qualifying action | |||
