FabSwingers.com > Forums > Politics > Changes to highway code
Changes to highway code
Jump to: Newest in thread
 |
By *I Two OP Couple
over a year ago
PDI 12-26th Nov 24 |
About time ?
- leave at least 1.5 metres when overtaking cyclists at speeds of up to 30mph, and give them more space when overtaking at higher speeds
- pass horse riders and horse-drawn vehicles at speeds under 10 mph and allow at least 2 metres of space
- allow at least 2 metres of space and keep to a low speed when passing a pedestrian who is walking in the road (for example, where there is no pavement) |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
"About time ?
- leave at least 1.5 metres when overtaking cyclists at speeds of up to 30mph, and give them more space when overtaking at higher speeds
- pass horse riders and horse-drawn vehicles at speeds under 10 mph and allow at least 2 metres of space
- allow at least 2 metres of space and keep to a low speed when passing a pedestrian who is walking in the road (for example, where there is no pavement)"
Or as it was in the past:
'Plain old common sense'
Add Dutch Reach too. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"About time ?
- leave at least 1.5 metres when overtaking cyclists at speeds of up to 30mph, and give them more space when overtaking at higher speeds
- pass horse riders and horse-drawn vehicles at speeds under 10 mph and allow at least 2 metres of space
- allow at least 2 metres of space and keep to a low speed when passing a pedestrian who is walking in the road (for example, where there is no pavement)
Or as it was in the past:
'Plain old common sense'
Add Dutch Reach too."
This just shows how out of touch I am with the code. I always thought the above had always been the case especially about horses. When did it change and to what? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
When I go out for a hack I am no longer surprised by the amount of vehicles that tuck in behind and just seem to rev in frustration.
My horse took a kick at a dust cart the other day that got too close. Could have gone terribly wrong. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"About time ?
- leave at least 1.5 metres when overtaking cyclists at speeds of up to 30mph, and give them more space when overtaking at higher speeds
- pass horse riders and horse-drawn vehicles at speeds under 10 mph and allow at least 2 metres of space
- allow at least 2 metres of space and keep to a low speed when passing a pedestrian who is walking in the road (for example, where there is no pavement)
Or as it was in the past:
'Plain old common sense'
Add Dutch Reach too."
Common sense only works when the majority of people use it.
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
What is “Dutch Reach” never ever heard that term!
Grew up in the country and always stop the car to let horses pass. Last thing I want is the horse getting hurt or kicking my car.
Incidentally, if you do not rev the engine or move too close and the horse still kicks your car, who is libel? Are horses insured to use roads?
Similarly why aren’t bicycles insured for use on the road? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
"What is “Dutch Reach” never ever heard that term!
"
Look up 'Dutch Reach'. Some Police Forces are saying that they will be stopping drivers and issuing advisories to do it.
It's in the pre-print of the new highway code - as soon as it hits the shop shelves it's the highways code. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"What is “Dutch Reach” never ever heard that term!
Look up 'Dutch Reach'. Some Police Forces are saying that they will be stopping drivers and issuing advisories to do it.
It's in the pre-print of the new highway code - as soon as it hits the shop shelves it's the highways code."
Ok will look it up although gotta say it made me think if something different being on a swingers site  |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"Using the hand furthest from the door handle in order to open a car door.
It has the effect of turning your head round, so that you can see cyclists approaching. "
I get the idea but really? Nanny state! Good luck getting the oldies to do that, some barely remember to use indicators! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
"Using the hand furthest from the door handle in order to open a car door.
It has the effect of turning your head round, so that you can see cyclists approaching.
I get the idea but really? Nanny state! Good luck getting the oldies to do that, some barely remember to use indicators!"
I think it's called a simple change of behaviour may save 500 lives every year.  |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago
Near Wells |
"Using the hand furthest from the door handle in order to open a car door.
It has the effect of turning your head round, so that you can see cyclists approaching. "
If I was cycling past a parked car with someone sat in it I would leave enough space for a door to be open. You never know. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago
Bristol |
"Using the hand furthest from the door handle in order to open a car door.
It has the effect of turning your head round, so that you can see cyclists approaching.
I get the idea but really? Nanny state! Good luck getting the oldies to do that, some barely remember to use indicators!"
Ah yes Audi and BMW drivers  |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Tbh I preferred them on the pavements and off the roads lol
You'd love it round here. Loads of wankers cycling on the pavement. youd love it round here loads wankers cycling on the roads "
Where they're supposed to be.
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
The Highway Code is only an advisory document. It has no legal status.
The Road Traffic Act is what governs behaviour on the roads.
Until these changes are enacted by being voted through both parliaments and signed off by the queen nothing has changed. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Tbh I preferred them on the pavements and off the roads lol
You'd love it round here. Loads of wankers cycling on the pavement. youd love it round here loads wankers cycling on the roads
Where they're supposed to be.
"
pay road tax then and insurance |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Tbh I preferred them on the pavements and off the roads lol
You'd love it round here. Loads of wankers cycling on the pavement. youd love it round here loads wankers cycling on the roads
Where they're supposed to be.
pay road tax then and insurance "
Try lobbying your local MP on this issue.
Not sure making 10 year old kids with bikes pay road tax and insurance is a vote winner. But you never know! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *I Two OP Couple
over a year ago
PDI 12-26th Nov 24 |
"The Highway Code is only an advisory document. It has no legal status.
The Road Traffic Act is what governs behaviour on the roads.
Until these changes are enacted by being voted through both parliaments and signed off by the queen nothing has changed."
It serves as guidance and although nobody will be prosecuted for failing to allow 1.5m when overtaking they WILL be hit with driving without due care same as for other highway code transgressions. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
"The Highway Code is only an advisory document. It has no legal status.
The Road Traffic Act is what governs behaviour on the roads.
Until these changes are enacted by being voted through both parliaments and signed off by the queen nothing has changed."
However. Not obeying the Highway Code gives the Police room to argue for driving without due care and attention.
I would not imagine a Magistrate anywhere disagreeing with a Police officer where he/she cites a method of driving that is in contradiction to the Highway Code.
Failure to indicate isn't illegal - but thousands of people have been fined for failing to do so. For example.
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Tbh I preferred them on the pavements and off the roads lol
You'd love it round here. Loads of wankers cycling on the pavement. youd love it round here loads wankers cycling on the roads
Where they're supposed to be.
pay road tax then and insurance
Try lobbying your local MP on this issue.
Not sure making 10 year old kids with bikes pay road tax and insurance is a vote winner. But you never know!"
10 yr old kids don’t drive cars maybe do it same age as drivers |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"Using the hand furthest from the door handle in order to open a car door.
It has the effect of turning your head round, so that you can see cyclists approaching.
I get the idea but really? Nanny state! Good luck getting the oldies to do that, some barely remember to use indicators!
Ah yes Audi and BMW drivers "
Oh fuck that includes me then! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
As a horse rider it worries me every time I go out on the roads now as there are far to many drivers who think they own the road.
I now where a camera just incase anything was to happen.
Sadly most people don’t pay attention to the Highway Code or use common sense |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Tbh I preferred them on the pavements and off the roads lol
You'd love it round here. Loads of wankers cycling on the pavement. youd love it round here loads wankers cycling on the roads
Where they're supposed to be.
pay road tax then and insurance
Try lobbying your local MP on this issue.
Not sure making 10 year old kids with bikes pay road tax and insurance is a vote winner. But you never know! 10 yr old kids don’t drive cars maybe do it same age as drivers "
Using the register of bicycle ownership that nobody has? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"As a horse rider it worries me every time I go out on the roads now as there are far to many drivers who think they own the road.
I now where a camera just incase anything was to happen.
Sadly most people don’t pay attention to the Highway Code or use common sense "
Idiots revving engines by horses deserve getting their car kicked.
But what if you pull over and sit quietly to let the horses pass by and then the horse still freaks and damages the car? Are horse riders insured? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"As a horse rider it worries me every time I go out on the roads now as there are far to many drivers who think they own the road.
I now where a camera just incase anything was to happen.
Sadly most people don’t pay attention to the Highway Code or use common sense
Idiots revving engines by horses deserve getting their car kicked.
But what if you pull over and sit quietly to let the horses pass by and then the horse still freaks and damages the car? Are horse riders insured?"
I have insurance so yes in that instance you could claim should the horse damage your property but I know a lot of people that don’t have it.
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
I would just like to see the basic rules of the road applied more often. Too many people fail to use their indicators, park illegally/in stupid places (delivery drivers are the worst) or jump red lights (cyclists are particularly prone to this).
I would also like to see something in the high way code about encouraging cyclists to wear reflective clothing in the dark (which is something a lot of motorcyclists do) or at least stop this fashion for wearing black. It is often hard to see cyclists wearing all black and I think it puts them at undue risk. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"As a horse rider it worries me every time I go out on the roads now as there are far to many drivers who think they own the road.
I now where a camera just incase anything was to happen.
Sadly most people don’t pay attention to the Highway Code or use common sense
Idiots revving engines by horses deserve getting their car kicked.
But what if you pull over and sit quietly to let the horses pass by and then the horse still freaks and damages the car? Are horse riders insured?
I have insurance so yes in that instance you could claim should the horse damage your property but I know a lot of people that don’t have it.
"
You sound sensible but you have illustrated a problem. I strongly believe ALL road users, be they motor vehicles, horses or bicycles should have insurance. The issues aren’t all caused by cars/vans/trucks. Seen plenty of cyclists jumping lights, weaving in and out of traffic and changing lanes without signalling. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"What is “Dutch Reach” never ever heard that term!
Grew up in the country and always stop the car to let horses pass. Last thing I want is the horse getting hurt or kicking my car.
Incidentally, if you do not rev the engine or move too close and the horse still kicks your car, who is libel? Are horses insured to use roads?
Similarly why aren’t bicycles insured for use on the road? "
I see it didn't take long for an uneducated remark to appear.
The Road traffic acts states that MOTORISED vehicles need to have a suitable level of insurance, when being driven on the public highways.
A horse or a bicycle have a motor, therefore no legal requirement for them to have insurance.
Why not look to the drivers who don't have a licence, don't have insurance, or a valid MOT for the vehicle they are driving. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"The Highway Code is only an advisory document. It has no legal status.
The Road Traffic Act is what governs behaviour on the roads.
Until these changes are enacted by being voted through both parliaments and signed off by the queen nothing has changed."
However the highway code is referenced, when you get prosecuted for breaking the Road traffic act. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"What is “Dutch Reach” never ever heard that term!
Grew up in the country and always stop the car to let horses pass. Last thing I want is the horse getting hurt or kicking my car.
Incidentally, if you do not rev the engine or move too close and the horse still kicks your car, who is libel? Are horses insured to use roads?
Similarly why aren’t bicycles insured for use on the road?
I see it didn't take long for an uneducated remark to appear.
The Road traffic acts states that MOTORISED vehicles need to have a suitable level of insurance, when being driven on the public highways.
A horse or a bicycle have a motor, therefore no legal requirement for them to have insurance.
Why not look to the drivers who don't have a licence, don't have insurance, or a valid MOT for the vehicle they are driving. "
Do electric or electrically assisted bicycles, have to have insurance? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"What is “Dutch Reach” never ever heard that term!
Grew up in the country and always stop the car to let horses pass. Last thing I want is the horse getting hurt or kicking my car.
Incidentally, if you do not rev the engine or move too close and the horse still kicks your car, who is libel? Are horses insured to use roads?
Similarly why aren’t bicycles insured for use on the road?
I see it didn't take long for an uneducated remark to appear.
The Road traffic acts states that MOTORISED vehicles need to have a suitable level of insurance, when being driven on the public highways.
A horse or a bicycle have a motor, therefore no legal requirement for them to have insurance.
Why not look to the drivers who don't have a licence, don't have insurance, or a valid MOT for the vehicle they are driving. "
Uneducated! You wound me!
I know the RTA requires insurance for motorised vehicles but I believe that needs to change because cyclists and horses can cause serious damage or even death. Ergo they should have insurance.
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"What is “Dutch Reach” never ever heard that term!
Grew up in the country and always stop the car to let horses pass. Last thing I want is the horse getting hurt or kicking my car.
Incidentally, if you do not rev the engine or move too close and the horse still kicks your car, who is libel? Are horses insured to use roads?
Similarly why aren’t bicycles insured for use on the road?
I see it didn't take long for an uneducated remark to appear.
The Road traffic acts states that MOTORISED vehicles need to have a suitable level of insurance, when being driven on the public highways.
A horse or a bicycle have a motor, therefore no legal requirement for them to have insurance.
Why not look to the drivers who don't have a licence, don't have insurance, or a valid MOT for the vehicle they are driving.
Uneducated! You wound me!
I know the RTA requires insurance for motorised vehicles but I believe that needs to change because cyclists and horses can cause serious damage or even death. Ergo they should have insurance.
"
What you believe and what is legal doesn't matter.
I believe we should all be able to have fully automatic large caliber weapons, but the law doesn't allow it.
The law states anything with a motor or engine, needs to have insurance, to go on the roads.
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Does it all matter, Katie price seems to get away with it. Can't imagine there is much left it the highway code she has not broken. Avoids jail after 5 bans. "
6bans she should do 6 yeas jail the fucking scank
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"What is “Dutch Reach” never ever heard that term!
Grew up in the country and always stop the car to let horses pass. Last thing I want is the horse getting hurt or kicking my car.
Incidentally, if you do not rev the engine or move too close and the horse still kicks your car, who is libel? Are horses insured to use roads?
Similarly why aren’t bicycles insured for use on the road?
I see it didn't take long for an uneducated remark to appear.
The Road traffic acts states that MOTORISED vehicles need to have a suitable level of insurance, when being driven on the public highways.
A horse or a bicycle have a motor, therefore no legal requirement for them to have insurance.
Why not look to the drivers who don't have a licence, don't have insurance, or a valid MOT for the vehicle they are driving.
Uneducated! You wound me!
I know the RTA requires insurance for motorised vehicles but I believe that needs to change because cyclists and horses can cause serious damage or even death. Ergo they should have insurance.
What you believe and what is legal doesn't matter.
I believe we should all be able to have fully automatic large caliber weapons, but the law doesn't allow it.
The law states anything with a motor or engine, needs to have insurance, to go on the roads.
"
You do like stating the obvious don’t you! The laws in this country are often a joke and in many cases fall so far behind the reality in the country.
If it can cause damage it SHOULD be insured. The fact that things aren’t is stupid! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *I Two OP Couple
over a year ago
PDI 12-26th Nov 24 |
"What is “Dutch Reach” never ever heard that term!
Grew up in the country and always stop the car to let horses pass. Last thing I want is the horse getting hurt or kicking my car.
Incidentally, if you do not rev the engine or move too close and the horse still kicks your car, who is libel? Are horses insured to use roads?
Similarly why aren’t bicycles insured for use on the road?
I see it didn't take long for an uneducated remark to appear.
The Road traffic acts states that MOTORISED vehicles need to have a suitable level of insurance, when being driven on the public highways.
A horse or a bicycle have a motor, therefore no legal requirement for them to have insurance.
Why not look to the drivers who don't have a licence, don't have insurance, or a valid MOT for the vehicle they are driving.
Uneducated! You wound me!
I know the RTA requires insurance for motorised vehicles but I believe that needs to change because cyclists and horses can cause serious damage or even death. Ergo they should have insurance.
What you believe and what is legal doesn't matter.
I believe we should all be able to have fully automatic large caliber weapons, but the law doesn't allow it.
The law states anything with a motor or engine, needs to have insurance, to go on the roads.
You do like stating the obvious don’t you! The laws in this country are often a joke and in many cases fall so far behind the reality in the country.
If it can cause damage it SHOULD be insured. The fact that things aren’t is stupid!"
Do you have third party liability if you happen to bump into someone and make them drop their phone while walking ? Should it be compulsory ?
What if you push a shopping trolley over someone's toe ?
As for cycling, if you join many of the cycling clubs you get free liability insurance for a few pounds a year. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"What is “Dutch Reach” never ever heard that term!
Grew up in the country and always stop the car to let horses pass. Last thing I want is the horse getting hurt or kicking my car.
Incidentally, if you do not rev the engine or move too close and the horse still kicks your car, who is libel? Are horses insured to use roads?
Similarly why aren’t bicycles insured for use on the road?
I see it didn't take long for an uneducated remark to appear.
The Road traffic acts states that MOTORISED vehicles need to have a suitable level of insurance, when being driven on the public highways.
A horse or a bicycle have a motor, therefore no legal requirement for them to have insurance.
Why not look to the drivers who don't have a licence, don't have insurance, or a valid MOT for the vehicle they are driving.
Uneducated! You wound me!
I know the RTA requires insurance for motorised vehicles but I believe that needs to change because cyclists and horses can cause serious damage or even death. Ergo they should have insurance.
What you believe and what is legal doesn't matter.
I believe we should all be able to have fully automatic large caliber weapons, but the law doesn't allow it.
The law states anything with a motor or engine, needs to have insurance, to go on the roads.
You do like stating the obvious don’t you! The laws in this country are often a joke and in many cases fall so far behind the reality in the country.
If it can cause damage it SHOULD be insured. The fact that things aren’t is stupid!
Do you have third party liability if you happen to bump into someone and make them drop their phone while walking ? Should it be compulsory ?
What if you push a shopping trolley over someone's toe ?
As for cycling, if you join many of the cycling clubs you get free liability insurance for a few pounds a year."
“free liability insurance for a few pounds a year” is an oxymoron surely
That sounds very sensible.
Re earlier points - the chances of causing serious damage to person or property simply walking on the path is simply not comparable to the potential damage a cyclist or horse could do.
If a cyclists hits my car because they jumped the lights or changed lanes without signalling then they should have insurance to make a claim against.
Similarly a horse kicks my car when it is stationary then again I should be able to make a claim against the riders insurance. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"As a horse rider it worries me every time I go out on the roads now as there are far to many drivers who think they own the road.
I now where a camera just incase anything was to happen.
Sadly most people don’t pay attention to the Highway Code or use common sense
Idiots revving engines by horses deserve getting their car kicked.
But what if you pull over and sit quietly to let the horses pass by and then the horse still freaks and damages the car? Are horse riders insured?
I have insurance so yes in that instance you could claim should the horse damage your property but I know a lot of people that don’t have it.
"
Yes we had it and a lot of sensible horse owners do but sadly a lot decide no thanks. More fool them because if their horse kicks my car and they don’t pay to fix it I’ll be calling the lawyers and they are not cheap but a premium is. Either way they will be picking up my bill including the lawyer and barrister if needed. Horses are not cheap to own so usually an owner can run to a small insurance. The fact some chose not to tells you more about them than the cost.
Insurance for cyclist I’m not sure . Kids maybe on house insurance ? If someone’s on low income maybe a peppercorn national levy as a bike may be the only thing enabling someone to get to work and getting by on bills . Electric bikes/ scooters are expensive so if you afford one then yes insurance please . Motability scooters???? suggestions on a postcard as I have no idea who pays what.
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
I don’t for one minute think cyclists should be paying premiums anything like car drivers. But I do believe they should be required to have something afterall they can do damage but unlikely anywhere near as much as a motor vehicle. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *xhib12Man
over a year ago
Blyth |
"I don’t for one minute think cyclists should be paying premiums anything like car drivers. But I do believe they should be required to have something afterall they can do damage but unlikely anywhere near as much as a motor vehicle."
Have you seen yhe cost of a respray on an Aston Martin after a bike pedal has run down the side of it?  |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
Does it say anything about cyclists wearing the darkest outfits possible so the unfortunate horseless carriage and other drivers have little chance of seeing them before the almost inevitable happens ? At least horse riders always wear hi vis attire . |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"As a horse rider it worries me every time I go out on the roads now as there are far to many drivers who think they own the road.
I now where a camera just incase anything was to happen.
Sadly most people don’t pay attention to the Highway Code or use common sense
Idiots revving engines by horses deserve getting their car kicked.
But what if you pull over and sit quietly to let the horses pass by and then the horse still freaks and damages the car? Are horse riders insured?
I have insurance so yes in that instance you could claim should the horse damage your property but I know a lot of people that don’t have it.
Yes we had it and a lot of sensible horse owners do but sadly a lot decide no thanks. More fool them because if their horse kicks my car and they don’t pay to fix it I’ll be calling the lawyers and they are not cheap but a premium is. Either way they will be picking up my bill including the lawyer and barrister if needed. Horses are not cheap to own so usually an owner can run to a small insurance. The fact some chose not to tells you more about them than the cost.
Insurance for cyclist I’m not sure . Kids maybe on house insurance ? If someone’s on low income maybe a peppercorn national levy as a bike may be the only thing enabling someone to get to work and getting by on bills . Electric bikes/ scooters are expensive so if you afford one then yes insurance please . Motability scooters???? suggestions on a postcard as I have no idea who pays what.
"
If you have a mobility scooter from Motablity I believe insurance is included same as a Car |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *amish SMan
over a year ago
Eastleigh |
The person on pavement on the left has priority will be interesting, as it seems they can step straight out now as they have priority.
This will translate as cyclist on pavement, scooter rider on pavement etc.
Can you imagine trying to turn left on some high streets, let the traffic queues begin.
Some of the other changes were just what most were doing anyway. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"As a horse rider it worries me every time I go out on the roads now as there are far to many drivers who think they own the road.
I now where a camera just incase anything was to happen.
Sadly most people don’t pay attention to the Highway Code or use common sense
Idiots revving engines by horses deserve getting their car kicked.
But what if you pull over and sit quietly to let the horses pass by and then the horse still freaks and damages the car? Are horse riders insured?
I have insurance so yes in that instance you could claim should the horse damage your property but I know a lot of people that don’t have it.
Yes we had it and a lot of sensible horse owners do but sadly a lot decide no thanks. More fool them because if their horse kicks my car and they don’t pay to fix it I’ll be calling the lawyers and they are not cheap but a premium is. Either way they will be picking up my bill including the lawyer and barrister if needed. Horses are not cheap to own so usually an owner can run to a small insurance. The fact some chose not to tells you more about them than the cost.
Insurance for cyclist I’m not sure . Kids maybe on house insurance ? If someone’s on low income maybe a peppercorn national levy as a bike may be the only thing enabling someone to get to work and getting by on bills . Electric bikes/ scooters are expensive so if you afford one then yes insurance please . Motability scooters???? suggestions on a postcard as I have no idea who pays what.
If you have a mobility scooter from Motablity I believe insurance is included same as a Car "
Thanks .. every days a school day |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"The person on pavement on the left has priority will be interesting, as it seems they can step straight out now as they have priority.
This will translate as cyclist on pavement, scooter rider on pavement etc.
Can you imagine trying to turn left on some high streets, let the traffic queues begin.
Some of the other changes were just what most were doing anyway. "
so they should have priority |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"As a horse rider it worries me every time I go out on the roads now as there are far to many drivers who think they own the road.
I now where a camera just incase anything was to happen.
Sadly most people don’t pay attention to the Highway Code or use common sense
Idiots revving engines by horses deserve getting their car kicked.
But what if you pull over and sit quietly to let the horses pass by and then the horse still freaks and damages the car? Are horse riders insured?
I have insurance so yes in that instance you could claim should the horse damage your property but I know a lot of people that don’t have it.
Yes we had it and a lot of sensible horse owners do but sadly a lot decide no thanks. More fool them because if their horse kicks my car and they don’t pay to fix it I’ll be calling the lawyers and they are not cheap but a premium is. Either way they will be picking up my bill including the lawyer and barrister if needed. Horses are not cheap to own so usually an owner can run to a small insurance. The fact some chose not to tells you more about them than the cost.
Insurance for cyclist I’m not sure . Kids maybe on house insurance ? If someone’s on low income maybe a peppercorn national levy as a bike may be the only thing enabling someone to get to work and getting by on bills . Electric bikes/ scooters are expensive so if you afford one then yes insurance please . Motability scooters???? suggestions on a postcard as I have no idea who pays what.
"
I think the electric scooters that are all the rage at the moment need insurance. I’m sure there have been articles in the papers about people having them impounded due to no insurance. They can certainly go at speed and if they were to hit something or someone they would do damaged. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
So many people whinging about who should have insurance, when the road traffic acts clearly says what vehicles need insurance. Here is a hint, motorised ones.
But I don't see anyone mentioning the drivers, who don't have insurance, don't have a valid MOT, or they don't have a valid driving licence.
Yet these drivers are on the roads every day, but most here are not interested in them.
Why is that?
A driver without insurance and a valid MOT, is a bigger danger than a cyclist without any legal need for insurance. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"So many people whinging about who should have insurance, when the road traffic acts clearly says what vehicles need insurance. Here is a hint, motorised ones.
But I don't see anyone mentioning the drivers, who don't have insurance, don't have a valid MOT, or they don't have a valid driving licence.
Yet these drivers are on the roads every day, but most here are not interested in them.
Why is that?
A driver without insurance and a valid MOT, is a bigger danger than a cyclist without any legal need for insurance."
I think the points you make regarding uninsured/mot'd vehicles etc are already covered by various laws. Yes, they are a danger but the law is "supposed" to deal with them. As a pretty much full-time cyclist myself, I would be in favour of cyclists having more accountability. I would include mandatory front and back lights illuminated at all times, helmets, and hi-vis jackets with a recognisable ID on them, such as a QR code. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago
carrbrook stalybridge |
"So many people whinging about who should have insurance, when the road traffic acts clearly says what vehicles need insurance. Here is a hint, motorised ones.
But I don't see anyone mentioning the drivers, who don't have insurance, don't have a valid MOT, or they don't have a valid driving licence.
Yet these drivers are on the roads every day, but most here are not interested in them.
Why is that?
A driver without insurance and a valid MOT, is a bigger danger than a cyclist without any legal need for insurance.
I think the points you make regarding uninsured/mot'd vehicles etc are already covered by various laws. Yes, they are a danger but the law is "supposed" to deal with them. As a pretty much full-time cyclist myself, I would be in favour of cyclists having more accountability. I would include mandatory front and back lights illuminated at all times, helmets, and hi-vis jackets with a recognisable ID on them, such as a QR code. "
and brakes that work ! works van smashed into by a clown on what was basicly a frame seat pedals and wheels no brakes lighs etc came flying out of a side road smashed into my front wing across the bonnet on his feet and legged it ! lucky for me all on dash cam or would have had to pay for repairs myself
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"So many people whinging about who should have insurance, when the road traffic acts clearly says what vehicles need insurance. Here is a hint, motorised ones.
But I don't see anyone mentioning the drivers, who don't have insurance, don't have a valid MOT, or they don't have a valid driving licence.
Yet these drivers are on the roads every day, but most here are not interested in them.
Why is that?
A driver without insurance and a valid MOT, is a bigger danger than a cyclist without any legal need for insurance."
An unsafe road user is just that. It doesn't matter what documentation they have, they are still unsafe. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"So many people whinging about who should have insurance, when the road traffic acts clearly says what vehicles need insurance. Here is a hint, motorised ones.
But I don't see anyone mentioning the drivers, who don't have insurance, don't have a valid MOT, or they don't have a valid driving licence.
Yet these drivers are on the roads every day, but most here are not interested in them.
Why is that?
A driver without insurance and a valid MOT, is a bigger danger than a cyclist without any legal need for insurance.
I think the points you make regarding uninsured/mot'd vehicles etc are already covered by various laws. Yes, they are a danger but the law is "supposed" to deal with them. "
But the laws don't work, as there are drivers without the legal documents needed by law to use the roads.
"
As a pretty much full-time cyclist myself, I would be in favour of cyclists having more accountability. I would include mandatory front and back lights illuminated at all times, helmets, and hi-vis jackets with a recognisable ID on them, such as a QR code. "
The ID bit is not going to happen, the government has already said, there are no plans to put something in place.
Are you having a fucking laugh with the Hi vis shit, I was knocked off my motorbike while wearing a Hi vis coat. The whole front of the bike was fluorescent orange, I keep getting mistaken for a copper. The blind cunt still didn't see me, as he wasn't looking for a motorbike.
To knock another hole in your argument,I had my front headlight on, blind cunt still didn't see me. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"About time ?
- leave at least 1.5 metres when overtaking cyclists at speeds of up to 30mph, and give them more space when overtaking at higher speeds
- pass horse riders and horse-drawn vehicles at speeds under 10 mph and allow at least 2 metres of space
- allow at least 2 metres of space and keep to a low speed when passing a pedestrian who is walking in the road (for example, where there is no pavement)"
Nice seems the laws are not going to affect anyone, unless if you live in the countryside or near Buckingham palace or any royal residence.
So in short, one rule for them and another rule for us.
Typical.
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"I don’t for one minute think cyclists should be paying premiums anything like car drivers. But I do believe they should be required to have something afterall they can do damage but unlikely anywhere near as much as a motor vehicle.
Have you seen yhe cost of a respray on an Aston Martin after a bike pedal has run down the side of it? "
Sadly don’t have an Aston Martin but do drive a BMW 850 Gran Coupe and dread to think what a respray would cost for that!!!! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"So many people whinging about who should have insurance, when the road traffic acts clearly says what vehicles need insurance. Here is a hint, motorised ones.
But I don't see anyone mentioning the drivers, who don't have insurance, don't have a valid MOT, or they don't have a valid driving licence.
Yet these drivers are on the roads every day, but most here are not interested in them.
Why is that?
A driver without insurance and a valid MOT, is a bigger danger than a cyclist without any legal need for insurance."
You are absolutely right about car drivers without insurance or MOT. Doesn’t mean we are wrong about cyclists and horses needing insurance. The two things are not mutually exclusive! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I don’t for one minute think cyclists should be paying premiums anything like car drivers. But I do believe they should be required to have something afterall they can do damage but unlikely anywhere near as much as a motor vehicle.
Have you seen yhe cost of a respray on an Aston Martin after a bike pedal has run down the side of it?
Sadly don’t have an Aston Martin but do drive a BMW 850 Gran Coupe and dread to think what a respray would cost for that!!!!"
The advantage of owning silver cars like I have is that all is needed is a tin of Hammerite, a brush and some cellulose thinners to make good the paintwork.
I suppose if I had a black car I could use boot polish. Ive used that on scuffs in the days when cars had sensible matt black bumpers instead of colour coordinated ones.
There are few forms of vanity more demanding than one's car bodywork! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *not69Man
over a year ago
Lancashire |
"The Highway Code is only an advisory document. It has no legal status.
The Road Traffic Act is what governs behaviour on the roads.
Until these changes are enacted by being voted through both parliaments and signed off by the queen nothing has changed."
The RAC says: “Taken alone, the Highway Code is not the law.
“But many of its instructions are backed up by law and so have legal muscle behind them.
“Those points supported by the law are clearly identified in the document by wording like ‘MUST’, ‘MUST NOT’, rather than ‘should’ or ‘should not’.
“Failure to comply with the other rules of the Code can’t directly cause you to be fined, prosecuted or disqualified. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *I Two OP Couple
over a year ago
PDI 12-26th Nov 24 |
"I don’t for one minute think cyclists should be paying premiums anything like car drivers. But I do believe they should be required to have something afterall they can do damage but unlikely anywhere near as much as a motor vehicle.
Have you seen yhe cost of a respray on an Aston Martin after a bike pedal has run down the side of it?
Sadly don’t have an Aston Martin but do drive a BMW 850 Gran Coupe and dread to think what a respray would cost for that!!!!"
Don't worry, your insurance will pay |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"I don’t for one minute think cyclists should be paying premiums anything like car drivers. But I do believe they should be required to have something afterall they can do damage but unlikely anywhere near as much as a motor vehicle.
Have you seen yhe cost of a respray on an Aston Martin after a bike pedal has run down the side of it?
Sadly don’t have an Aston Martin but do drive a BMW 850 Gran Coupe and dread to think what a respray would cost for that!!!!
Don't worry, your insurance will pay"
Yep but just like with an uninsured driver, the claim SHOULD be taken from them/their insurance! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I don’t for one minute think cyclists should be paying premiums anything like car drivers. But I do believe they should be required to have something afterall they can do damage but unlikely anywhere near as much as a motor vehicle.
Have you seen yhe cost of a respray on an Aston Martin after a bike pedal has run down the side of it?
Sadly don’t have an Aston Martin but do drive a BMW 850 Gran Coupe and dread to think what a respray would cost for that!!!!
Don't worry, your insurance will pay
Yep but just like with an uninsured driver, the claim SHOULD be taken from them/their insurance!"
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Does it say anything about cyclists wearing the darkest outfits possible so the unfortunate horseless carriage and other drivers have little chance of seeing them before the almost inevitable happens ? At least horse riders always wear hi vis attire ."
As a cyclist this fucking annoys me. I got knocked of my bike and taken half way round a roundabout under his car, when I was 7 by a driver who claimed they didn't see me as I wore a grey waterproof. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *amish SMan
over a year ago
Eastleigh |
Hopefully they'll introduce another rule for car drivers - don't pull out in front of a single white light. Just because you can see one light doesn't mean you are pulling out in front of a push bike, seems to be a too common problem when riding the motorcycle at night these days. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
"Hopefully they'll introduce another rule for car drivers - don't pull out in front of a single white light. Just because you can see one light doesn't mean you are pulling out in front of a push bike, seems to be a too common problem when riding the motorcycle at night these days. "
While I'm all for Think Bike. Maybe motorbikes need a flishy flashy like sensible cyclists use (imagine a Hells Angels Chapter with flishy flashy lights front and rear lol? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *I Two OP Couple
over a year ago
PDI 12-26th Nov 24 |
"Hopefully they'll introduce another rule for car drivers - don't pull out in front of a single white light. Just because you can see one light doesn't mean you are pulling out in front of a push bike, seems to be a too common problem when riding the motorcycle at night these days.
While I'm all for Think Bike. Maybe motorbikes need a flishy flashy like sensible cyclists use (imagine a Hells Angels Chapter with flishy flashy lights front and rear lol?"
You mean the flashy flashy light that can be a little troublesome if a driver has epilepsy, or can even temporary blind some drivers and makes it impossible to judge how far away the vehicle is ? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
"Hopefully they'll introduce another rule for car drivers - don't pull out in front of a single white light. Just because you can see one light doesn't mean you are pulling out in front of a push bike, seems to be a too common problem when riding the motorcycle at night these days.
While I'm all for Think Bike. Maybe motorbikes need a flishy flashy like sensible cyclists use (imagine a Hells Angels Chapter with flishy flashy lights front and rear lol?
You mean the flashy flashy light that can be a little troublesome if a driver has epilepsy, or can even temporary blind some drivers and makes it impossible to judge how far away the vehicle is ?"
Persons with light triggered epilepsy are not allowed to drive.
Judging distance while driving is a requirement of driving. If you can't judge distance - Please STOP DRIVING!!!  |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *I Two OP Couple
over a year ago
PDI 12-26th Nov 24 |
"Hopefully they'll introduce another rule for car drivers - don't pull out in front of a single white light. Just because you can see one light doesn't mean you are pulling out in front of a push bike, seems to be a too common problem when riding the motorcycle at night these days.
While I'm all for Think Bike. Maybe motorbikes need a flishy flashy like sensible cyclists use (imagine a Hells Angels Chapter with flishy flashy lights front and rear lol?
You mean the flashy flashy light that can be a little troublesome if a driver has epilepsy, or can even temporary blind some drivers and makes it impossible to judge how far away the vehicle is ?
Persons with light triggered epilepsy are not allowed to drive.
Judging distance while driving is a requirement of driving. If you can't judge distance - Please STOP DRIVING!!! "
Lol you're struggling |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Tbh I preferred them on the pavements and off the roads lol
You'd love it round here. Loads of wankers cycling on the pavement. youd love it round here loads wankers cycling on the roads
Where they're supposed to be.
pay road tax then and insurance "
Like all those car drivers that don't pay road tax or insurance
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
"Hopefully they'll introduce another rule for car drivers - don't pull out in front of a single white light. Just because you can see one light doesn't mean you are pulling out in front of a push bike, seems to be a too common problem when riding the motorcycle at night these days.
While I'm all for Think Bike. Maybe motorbikes need a flishy flashy like sensible cyclists use (imagine a Hells Angels Chapter with flishy flashy lights front and rear lol?
You mean the flashy flashy light that can be a little troublesome if a driver has epilepsy, or can even temporary blind some drivers and makes it impossible to judge how far away the vehicle is ?
Persons with light triggered epilepsy are not allowed to drive.
Judging distance while driving is a requirement of driving. If you can't judge distance - Please STOP DRIVING!!!
Lol you're struggling"
Yea. Struggling to understand people who struggle to understand.  |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *I Two OP Couple
over a year ago
PDI 12-26th Nov 24 |
"Hopefully they'll introduce another rule for car drivers - don't pull out in front of a single white light. Just because you can see one light doesn't mean you are pulling out in front of a push bike, seems to be a too common problem when riding the motorcycle at night these days.
While I'm all for Think Bike. Maybe motorbikes need a flishy flashy like sensible cyclists use (imagine a Hells Angels Chapter with flishy flashy lights front and rear lol?
You mean the flashy flashy light that can be a little troublesome if a driver has epilepsy, or can even temporary blind some drivers and makes it impossible to judge how far away the vehicle is ?
Persons with light triggered epilepsy are not allowed to drive.
Judging distance while driving is a requirement of driving. If you can't judge distance - Please STOP DRIVING!!!
Lol you're struggling
Yea. Struggling to understand people who struggle to understand. "
Absolutely, your replies are usually so well thought out and researched you surprised me.
Don't worry. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Hopefully they'll introduce another rule for car drivers - don't pull out in front of a single white light. Just because you can see one light doesn't mean you are pulling out in front of a push bike, seems to be a too common problem when riding the motorcycle at night these days.
While I'm all for Think Bike. Maybe motorbikes need a flishy flashy like sensible cyclists use (imagine a Hells Angels Chapter with flishy flashy lights front and rear lol?
You mean the flashy flashy light that can be a little troublesome if a driver has epilepsy, or can even temporary blind some drivers and makes it impossible to judge how far away the vehicle is ?
Persons with light triggered epilepsy are not allowed to drive. Yes they are, if they are seizure free for 12months.
Judging distance while driving is a requirement of driving. If you can't judge distance - Please STOP DRIVING!!! "
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago
Longridge |
"Tbh I preferred them on the pavements and off the roads lol
You'd love it round here. Loads of wankers cycling on the pavement. youd love it round here loads wankers cycling on the roads
Where they're supposed to be.
pay road tax then and insurance "
And put friggin' lights on too..
Riding two abreast at snails pace on fast country lanes, yet contribute nothing to the road infrastructure. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
It is pretty simple really. The law needs to changed so that if you use the road (motorised, non motorised, animal powered) you are required to have some level of insurance because you have the ability to cause damage to property and people.
If your dog runs into the road and causes an accident, you the dog owner are liable and can be sued. Hence sensible dog owners have insurance for public liability. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *amish SMan
over a year ago
Eastleigh |
If road users (all types) had a little patience and courtesy then these new rules would not be needed.
Just like the idea smart motorways are dangerous, total tosh, its the users who are dangerous - the smart motorway is no more dangerous than any other road, think about it, a road cannot physically harm you if used correctly. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Hopefully they'll introduce another rule for car drivers - don't pull out in front of a single white light. Just because you can see one light doesn't mean you are pulling out in front of a push bike, seems to be a too common problem when riding the motorcycle at night these days. "
Pulling out in front of a bike with dual headlights, thinking its a car a distance away. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago
Longridge |
It's a load of utter bollox.
It's been illegal to:
drive with lights not working
to modify headlights to off road HIDS
to remove a DPF filter
to drive with bald tyres
to have blacked out number plates
But drive at night and a third the cars you see have lights out completel on one side, walk round a supermarket and you'll find at least 5 to 10 cars with completely bald front tyres.
More legislation that will NEVER be enforced, don't know why they even bother. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago
Longridge |
Oh, and bikes..
No enforcement of riding at night in the middle of the road with no lights whatsoever.
Watch BBC Panorama from Monday night, not a single fixed traffic camera in the UK is operating. Empty, expensive yellow boxes obstructing the pavements which are now "old and out dated", Lancashire police have only 4 dedicated traffic officers for the whole Preston area and random breath stops over Christmas half what they were 10 years ago.
Worth watching.. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"It's a load of utter bollox.
It's been illegal to:
drive with lights not working
to modify headlights to off road HIDS
to remove a DPF filter
to drive with bald tyres
to have blacked out number plates
But drive at night and a third the cars you see have lights out completel on one side, walk round a supermarket and you'll find at least 5 to 10 cars with completely bald front tyres.
More legislation that will NEVER be enforced, don't know why they even bother."
The Highway Code is advisory, though may influence behaviour that the police may charge users for, under existing legislation. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago
Longridge |
"Many of the rules in The Highway Code are legal requirements, and if you disobey these rules you are committing a criminal offence. You may be fined, given penalty points on your licence or be disqualified from driving. In the most serious cases you may be sent to prison."
You must, you should are terms and depending on the rule itself, most are attached to the Road Traffic Acts and other legislation. Therefore the Highway Code is not advisory, only some where there is no law standing behind but can fall into other categories such as driving without due care and attention, driving without consideration of other road users and a very vague but often used, reckless driving.
GMP have announced they will prosecute drivers not opening car doors correctly, which is a joke when they don't prosecute other offences or do their best to avoid the paperwork.
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
All these rules will only be an issue if someone is hurt or killed and then they will throw the code at you and the law to back it up.
There is an offence of hogging the middle lane on a motorway which you can be fined for. It turns a three lane motorway into a two lane motorway for those of you who do it . Idiots!! How often do you see anyone being pulled over? The police do not have the resource or time so will not enforce any of this unless like I said something goes wrong.
On a practical point I’m not sure I agree with the turning left and giving way to a pedestrian who looks like they may want to cross ( not actually crossing) If you come off a main road with say a 50mph limit then turn into a side road you look like you’re leaving the road you don’t it’s asking for a vehicle to run into the back of you. Yes i know their fault but an accident caused by being courteous to some one who “might” want to cross the road??
Having driven an hgv many years ago I also would like to point out how stupid some cyclists are undertaking trucks. I’ve indicated left in plenty of time and because I’ve seen an idiot cyclist ignoring my indicators I’ve braked stopping them from being crushed. Sounding the horn results in a finger gesture from said cyclist. This happens a lot so please stop being so stupid. Oh and before anyone starts I’ve also witnessed a lot of knob head truck driver but they don’t tend to get crushed.
My motorcycle instructor said just assume every other road user is an idiot and will make a wrong decision which will kill your. Defensive and courteous road use all the way, |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"About time ?
- leave at least 1.5 metres when overtaking cyclists at speeds of up to 30mph, and give them more space when overtaking at higher speeds
- pass horse riders and horse-drawn vehicles at speeds under 10 mph and allow at least 2 metres of space
- allow at least 2 metres of space and keep to a low speed when passing a pedestrian who is walking in the road (for example, where there is no pavement)
Or as it was in the past:
'Plain old common sense'
Add Dutch Reach too.
This just shows how out of touch I am with the code. I always thought the above had always been the case especially about horses. When did it change and to what?"
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
“ People cycling are asked to be aware of people driving behind them and allow them to overtake (for example, by moving into single file or stopping) when it’s safe to do so”
I don’t think this one will catch on round my way. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
North West |
These changes just add weight to the protection of the most vulnerable road users and we all want to look after our own don’t we?
I would lay a good bet that most people who are objecting to laws to protect the most vulnerable British road users are the same ones who demand w that we should be looking after own when it comes to just being a decent, civilised country and paying our fair share of foreign aid. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"How many frustrated motorists will there be now pushbikes further out in the road, cycling 2 abreast. How many cyclists pay to use the road like vehicle drives"
this!! Also - what was the point of having cycle lanes installed at vast expense?  |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"About time ?
- leave at least 1.5 metres when overtaking cyclists at speeds of up to 30mph, and give them more space when overtaking at higher speeds
- pass horse riders and horse-drawn vehicles at speeds under 10 mph and allow at least 2 metres of space
- allow at least 2 metres of space and keep to a low speed when passing a pedestrian who is walking in the road (for example, where there is no pavement)"
As a motorcycle rider , car driver and have driver I believe cyclists are the bane of my life and a lot of my colleagues also, too many holier thsn though cyclists believe they've rights above and beyond the bounds of common sense. 2 cyclists one riding nxt thd verge the other on the white line to prevent simpler easier passing. Boils my blood.
If they're on the white line I'd need a 3rd lane to give them safe distances when overtaking.. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
Just tonight I was wanting to turn left down a side street, 4 people (in hi Viz!), On the corner waiting to cross the junction (across my intended path) so I slowed down, stopped and gave frantic hand signals for them to cross, they seemed unsure what to do but eventually got the message. Meanwhile someone slammed their brakes on right behind me because they had expected me to carry on regardless. I was observing the law in doing what I did. But that's not much compensation when someone writes your car off and shoves you into pedestrians
I don't mind the law change so much, just please, have some sense and don't attempt to cross at the junction itself. Walk a few feet out of your way where it's safer to cross. Don't assume people will see you or even stop for you. If I hadn't stopped to let them cross, the car behind me would have almost certainly have hit someone. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"How many frustrated motorists will there be now pushbikes further out in the road, cycling 2 abreast. How many cyclists pay to use the road like vehicle drives
this!! Also - what was the point of having cycle lanes installed at vast expense? "
If they pay council tax, then all of them. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"It's a load of utter bollox.
It's been illegal to:
drive with lights not working
to modify headlights to off road HIDS
to remove a DPF filter
to drive with bald tyres
to have blacked out number plates
But drive at night and a third the cars you see have lights out completel on one side, walk round a supermarket and you'll find at least 5 to 10 cars with completely bald front tyres.
More legislation that will NEVER be enforced, don't know why they even bother.
The Highway Code is advisory, though may influence behaviour that the police may charge users for, under existing legislation. "
The highway code is referred to, when you are being prosecuted under the Road Traffic Act. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Personally I’ve always been friendly to horse riders . I always pip my horn and wave!! "
I've always thought that a window sticker saying 'I backfire for horses' would go down well in country lanes! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
» Add a new message to this topic
