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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I think it will remain blue with a reduced majority.

No way labour is making in roads there.

See higher count for reform and heritage party.

Mainly lots of tories voters are staying home on this one.

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By *ercuryMan over a year ago

Grantham

A good summing up. Blue votes will be reduced in all three upcoming by-elections.

Lets see where the "brexit" voters go.

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By *ovebjsMan over a year ago

Bristol

"A good summing up. Blue votes will be reduced in all three upcoming by-elections.

Lets see where the "brexit" voters go. "

So if the vote don’t go the way you personally want it to then it’s Brexit voters ?

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By *or Fox SakeCouple over a year ago

Thornaby

"A good summing up. Blue votes will be reduced in all three upcoming by-elections.

Lets see where the "brexit" voters go.

So if the vote don’t go the way you personally want it to then it’s Brexit voters ?"

He didn't say that

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By *ovebjsMan over a year ago

Bristol

"A good summing up. Blue votes will be reduced in all three upcoming by-elections.

Lets see where the "brexit" voters go.

So if the vote don’t go the way you personally want it to then it’s Brexit voters ?

He didn't say that"

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By *ercuryMan over a year ago

Grantham

"A good summing up. Blue votes will be reduced in all three upcoming by-elections.

Lets see where the "brexit" voters go.

So if the vote don’t go the way you personally want it to then it’s Brexit voters ?"

The vote is the vote, my view is irrelevant.

I'm talking about people who voted UKIP. Will they go Reform or go elsewhere?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Called it, victory with a reduced majority, very low.

Looks like a bloody nose for Boris, I wonder if he even cares?, maybe a case of a victory is a victory, doesn’t matter if there were less votes.

Labour didn’t really need to much here, and this is what might happen, give Boris and his cronies enough time to make more blunders and gaffs, and they will make themselves unelectable.

If they do call an election, it would be early to stop the rot setting in further, because any longer and the losses might be huge.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Called it, victory with a reduced majority, very low.

Looks like a bloody nose for Boris, I wonder if he even cares?, maybe a case of a victory is a victory, doesn’t matter if there were less votes.

Labour didn’t really need to much here, and this is what might happen, give Boris and his cronies enough time to make more blunders and gaffs, and they will make themselves unelectable.

If they do call an election, it would be early to stop the rot setting in further, because any longer and the losses might be huge."

Spot on, have you got this weeks lottery numbers

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

"Called it, victory with a reduced majority, very low.

Looks like a bloody nose for Boris, I wonder if he even cares?, maybe a case of a victory is a victory, doesn’t matter if there were less votes.

Labour didn’t really need to much here, and this is what might happen, give Boris and his cronies enough time to make more blunders and gaffs, and they will make themselves unelectable.

If they do call an election, it would be early to stop the rot setting in further, because any longer and the losses might be huge."
Ah right they lost on purpose it was tactical ive heard it all now and congratulations for the best spin ive seen so far.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Called it, victory with a reduced majority, very low.

Looks like a bloody nose for Boris, I wonder if he even cares?, maybe a case of a victory is a victory, doesn’t matter if there were less votes.

Labour didn’t really need to much here, and this is what might happen, give Boris and his cronies enough time to make more blunders and gaffs, and they will make themselves unelectable.

If they do call an election, it would be early to stop the rot setting in further, because any longer and the losses might be huge.Ah right they lost on purpose it was tactical ive heard it all now and congratulations for the best spin ive seen so far.

Your a bit ‘ edgy’ this morning,

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

"Called it, victory with a reduced majority, very low.

Looks like a bloody nose for Boris, I wonder if he even cares?, maybe a case of a victory is a victory, doesn’t matter if there were less votes.

Labour didn’t really need to much here, and this is what might happen, give Boris and his cronies enough time to make more blunders and gaffs, and they will make themselves unelectable.

Your a bit ‘ edgy’ this morning, "
not sure what thats supposed to mean but even you must find that the most amusing post so far to justify the disaster.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Called it, victory with a reduced majority, very low.

Looks like a bloody nose for Boris, I wonder if he even cares?, maybe a case of a victory is a victory, doesn’t matter if there were less votes.

Labour didn’t really need to much here, and this is what might happen, give Boris and his cronies enough time to make more blunders and gaffs, and they will make themselves unelectable.

Your a bit ‘ edgy’ this morning, not sure what thats supposed to mean but even you must find that the most amusing post so far to justify the disaster.

It means your on edge, not thinking rationally, making things up to make you feel better ,

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

"Called it, victory with a reduced majority, very low.

Looks like a bloody nose for Boris, I wonder if he even cares?, maybe a case of a victory is a victory, doesn’t matter if there were less votes.

Labour didn’t really need to much here, and this is what might happen, give Boris and his cronies enough time to make more blunders and gaffs, and they will make themselves unelectable.

Your a bit ‘ edgy’ this morning, not sure what thats supposed to mean but even you must find that the most amusing post so far to justify the disaster.

It means your on edge, not thinking rationally, making things up to make you feel better , "
Ok thanks for your diagnosis is that another of your skills as well as predictions.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Called it, victory with a reduced majority, very low.

Looks like a bloody nose for Boris, I wonder if he even cares?, maybe a case of a victory is a victory, doesn’t matter if there were less votes.

Labour didn’t really need to much here, and this is what might happen, give Boris and his cronies enough time to make more blunders and gaffs, and they will make themselves unelectable.

Your a bit ‘ edgy’ this morning, not sure what thats supposed to mean but even you must find that the most amusing post so far to justify the disaster.

It means your on edge, not thinking rationally, making things up to make you feel better , Ok thanks for your diagnosis is that another of your skills as well as predictions.

Just a bit alarming to see,

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

"Called it, victory with a reduced majority, very low.

Looks like a bloody nose for Boris, I wonder if he even cares?, maybe a case of a victory is a victory, doesn’t matter if there were less votes.

Labour didn’t really need to much here, and this is what might happen, give Boris and his cronies enough time to make more blunders and gaffs, and they will make themselves unelectable.

Your a bit ‘ edgy’ this morning, not sure what thats supposed to mean but even you must find that the most amusing post so far to justify the disaster.

It means your on edge, not thinking rationally, making things up to make you feel better , Ok thanks for your diagnosis is that another of your skills as well as predictions.

Just a bit alarming to see, "
So doctor what am i making up to make me feel better?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Called it, victory with a reduced majority, very low.

Looks like a bloody nose for Boris, I wonder if he even cares?, maybe a case of a victory is a victory, doesn’t matter if there were less votes.

Labour didn’t really need to much here, and this is what might happen, give Boris and his cronies enough time to make more blunders and gaffs, and they will make themselves unelectable.

If they do call an election, it would be early to stop the rot setting in further, because any longer and the losses might be huge.

Ah right they lost on purpose it was tactical ive heard it all now and congratulations for the best spin ive seen so far.

Your a bit ‘ edgy’ this morning, not sure what thats supposed to mean but even you must find that the most amusing post so far to justify the disaster.

It means your on edge, not thinking rationally, making things up to make you feel better , Ok thanks for your diagnosis is that another of your skills as well as predictions.

Just a bit alarming to see, So doctor what am i making up to make me feel better?"

You can see the way things are going, when you hear tory voters complaining about their own party under Boris, it is kind of inevitable these things happen.

Just like many Labour supporters complained about the direction Corbyn took their party, and look what happened the worst defeat ever and the red wall crumbled.

Any party should be wary when their supporters are taken for granted.

The tories are not immune to this phenomenon, and alarm bells must be ringing at tory party HQ.

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

Labour are clinging to the fact that they had a 10% increase in votes in this bi election what they dont say is that in mid term bi elections the average swing against the party in power runs at about 16% and 10% is unusually low.

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By *ercuryMan over a year ago

Grantham

We need a by-election in a swing seat. Then maybe we'll see possible voter intentions.

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

"We need a by-election in a swing seat. Then maybe we'll see possible voter intentions. "
I doubt it as people vote in bi elections for lots of different reasons when they know its not going to affect who runs the country.

If the labour party dont recognise that it has been a disaster and keep on trying to convince themselves they are making ground they will never change and never win.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"We need a by-election in a swing seat. Then maybe we'll see possible voter intentions. I doubt it as people vote in bi elections for lots of different reasons when they know its not going to affect who runs the country.

If the labour party dont recognise that it has been a disaster and keep on trying to convince themselves they are making ground they will never change and never win."

I think many in labour recognised that when the last GE happened, sadly the message didn’t permeate through to Corbyn and his supporters, so out of touch with reality they were and still are.

The current leadership maintains a more pragmatic approach, however it’s no good if they cannot convince the electorate.

Whilst the conservatives flounder, and the Labour Party doesn’t press this advantage then it will really come to naught come the next GE.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan over a year ago

London

If the labour party dont recognise that it has been a disaster and keep on trying to convince themselves they are making ground they will never change and never win.

I think many in labour recognised that when the last GE happened, sadly the message didn’t permeate through to Corbyn and his supporters, so out of touch with reality they were and still are.

The current leadership maintains a more pragmatic approach, however it’s no good if they cannot convince the electorate.

Whilst the conservatives flounder, and the Labour Party doesn’t press this advantage then it will really come to naught come the next GE."

This is actually a fairly mediocre result for Labour. Incumbent parties usually do badly in by elections, and half the votes the Tories lost went to Reform, not Labour.

I look forward to the day when Starmer fans have the integrity and honesty to admit that he's been an utter failure so far, without having to bring up Corbyn.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

If the labour party dont recognise that it has been a disaster and keep on trying to convince themselves they are making ground they will never change and never win.

I think many in labour recognised that when the last GE happened, sadly the message didn’t permeate through to Corbyn and his supporters, so out of touch with reality they were and still are.

The current leadership maintains a more pragmatic approach, however it’s no good if they cannot convince the electorate.

Whilst the conservatives flounder, and the Labour Party doesn’t press this advantage then it will really come to naught come the next GE.

This is actually a fairly mediocre result for Labour. Incumbent parties usually do badly in by elections, and half the votes the Tories lost went to Reform, not Labour.

I look forward to the day when Starmer fans have the integrity and honesty to admit that he's been an utter failure so far, without having to bring up Corbyn.

I fail to see in what universe 1,432 votes for reform UK equates to half of 11,189 votes for the conservatives. It’s this kind of misinformation which needs to be called out.

A failure? Give the man his day at the GE, we cannot ascertain that just yet. Corbyn got 2 GE’s and failed on both counts.

It’s easy to see mediocrity, but considering the utter electoral bashing the Labour Party got in 2019, mediocre is on balance better than being disastrous.

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

The north Shropshire by election will give a better indicator on how well the labour party do as the libs really didn't contest the sidcup one and are concentrating on this one.My guess is they will come 3rd.

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By *eroy1000Man over a year ago

milton keynes

"Called it, victory with a reduced majority, very low.

Looks like a bloody nose for Boris, I wonder if he even cares?, maybe a case of a victory is a victory, doesn’t matter if there were less votes.

Labour didn’t really need to much here, and this is what might happen, give Boris and his cronies enough time to make more blunders and gaffs, and they will make themselves unelectable.

If they do call an election, it would be early to stop the rot setting in further, because any longer and the losses might be huge."

Looks about the right result. The voters keep blue but with a warning shot to the government that things need to improve. A shame the turnout was so low but there was a 10% swing. That was not enough in this seat but I think would be enough in many others come a GE.

Not sure they can call an early GE unless they managed to change the rules

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"The north Shropshire by election will give a better indicator on how well the labour party do as the libs really didn't contest the sidcup one and are concentrating on this one.My guess is they will come 3rd. "

I think so too, the Lib Dems have been putting a lot of effort there. Just a question of how badly do the local electorate want to protest.

The biggest difficulty is that the big hitters of the conservatives have not been an active presence as they were in the bexley and Sidcup by-election. It may count against them, as voters may wonder why they got less attention.

Sometimes you have to show your face to rally the troops. This was another failure of labour at the last election, they totally disregarded their core heartlands and they paid for it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Called it, victory with a reduced majority, very low.

Looks like a bloody nose for Boris, I wonder if he even cares?, maybe a case of a victory is a victory, doesn’t matter if there were less votes.

Labour didn’t really need to much here, and this is what might happen, give Boris and his cronies enough time to make more blunders and gaffs, and they will make themselves unelectable.

If they do call an election, it would be early to stop the rot setting in further, because any longer and the losses might be huge.

Not sure they can call an early GE unless they managed to change the rules"

It was one of the first changes which Boris enacted after the last GE, which was to repeal the fixed terms parliaments act. So it is possible to call it. Problem is that it is a huge gamble. It could cement tory dominance further or it could lead to a weakened government. We just wait and see, I suspect it is being discussed though, but the next by election in north staffs. might be decider on whether the tories move now towards an election footing or not, but then again covid plays a big part in it also.

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By *eroy1000Man over a year ago

milton keynes

"Called it, victory with a reduced majority, very low.

Looks like a bloody nose for Boris, I wonder if he even cares?, maybe a case of a victory is a victory, doesn’t matter if there were less votes.

Labour didn’t really need to much here, and this is what might happen, give Boris and his cronies enough time to make more blunders and gaffs, and they will make themselves unelectable.

If they do call an election, it would be early to stop the rot setting in further, because any longer and the losses might be huge.

Not sure they can call an early GE unless they managed to change the rules

Thank you for the update. I heard a while back they wanted to scrap it but did not know the repeal had gone into law yet. Looks like the law only lasted 10 years ish then

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By *ercuryMan over a year ago

Grantham

"Called it, victory with a reduced majority, very low.

Looks like a bloody nose for Boris, I wonder if he even cares?, maybe a case of a victory is a victory, doesn’t matter if there were less votes.

Labour didn’t really need to much here, and this is what might happen, give Boris and his cronies enough time to make more blunders and gaffs, and they will make themselves unelectable.

If they do call an election, it would be early to stop the rot setting in further, because any longer and the losses might be huge.

Not sure they can call an early GE unless they managed to change the rules

Thank you for the update. I heard a while back they wanted to scrap it but did not know the repeal had gone into law yet. Looks like the law only lasted 10 years ish then"

The Repeal Bill is still goung through Parliamentary process. I think it was still with the Lords at the end of November.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Called it, victory with a reduced majority, very low.

Looks like a bloody nose for Boris, I wonder if he even cares?, maybe a case of a victory is a victory, doesn’t matter if there were less votes.

Labour didn’t really need to much here, and this is what might happen, give Boris and his cronies enough time to make more blunders and gaffs, and they will make themselves unelectable.

If they do call an election, it would be early to stop the rot setting in further, because any longer and the losses might be huge.

Not sure they can call an early GE unless they managed to change the rules

Thank you for the update. I heard a while back they wanted to scrap it but did not know the repeal had gone into law yet. Looks like the law only lasted 10 years ish then

The Repeal Bill is still goung through Parliamentary process. I think it was still with the Lords at the end of November. "

I stand corrected. But obviously there is a strong effort to repeal.

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