FabSwingers.com > Forums > Politics > Rittenhouse not guilty

Rittenhouse not guilty

By *unnyPair OP Couple over a year ago

Seminole

Thankfully the MSM tactic of overwhelming fake news didn’t affect the verdict. Kid did what he had to do. I don’t think he should have gone there in the first place, but I’m happy that the justice system judged him on a fair system and that he is free. I hope he sues the shit out of everyone who defamed him including the idiot in the Oval Office and his useless VP.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *9alMan over a year ago

Bridgend

American law seems mad to me, if you go out with a gun looking for trouble & shoot 3 people should be locked up for a long time.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *estivalMan over a year ago

borehamwood

Take it you didnt watch the trial then

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *unnyPair OP Couple over a year ago

Seminole

He wasn’t out looking for trouble. He was extinguished fires the idiot rioters were lighting in their widely accepted behavior to destroy private property to show their protest against police. If any concept is mad, it’s the concept that it’s okay to be a thieving piece of shit and not face any consequences.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *oo hotCouple over a year ago

North West

"Thankfully the MSM tactic of overwhelming fake news didn’t affect the verdict. Kid did what he had to do. I don’t think he should have gone there in the first place, but I’m happy that the justice system judged him on a fair system and that he is free. I hope he sues the shit out of everyone who defamed him including the idiot in the Oval Office and his useless VP."

It would be useful to have a non-partisan discussion thread about this but when bias boils over in every sentence… it’s quite a hard thing to do.

I think that most normal thinking people will wonder how a 17 year old can take a rifle into another state, claim on TV to be part of the emergency services and end up shooting dead two people and injuring another.

On a very, very basic level there are so many things wrong with him getting off with that and the precedent that it sets for gunslinging rednecks right across the country is horrific to think about.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *estivalMan over a year ago

borehamwood

It would be useful to have a non-partisan discussion thread about this but when bias boils over in every sentence… it’s quite a hard thing to do.

On a very, very basic level there are so many things wrong with him getting off with that and the precedent that it sets for gunslinging rednecks right across the country is horrific to think about."
except he didnt cross a state line with a firearm also whats your thought on the guy who was pointing a gun at him? Or the guy smashing him with a skateboard? Let me guess you would of tried talking to those people instead,you chase someone down who is armed your gona win a stupid prize

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

"He wasn’t out looking for trouble. He was extinguished fires the idiot rioters were lighting in their widely accepted behavior to destroy private property to show their protest against police. If any concept is mad, it’s the concept that it’s okay to be a thieving piece of shit and not face any consequences."

Do you need a machine gun to put out fires?

Is the appropriate punishment fort someone suspected of being "a thieving piece of shit" being shot to death by a member of the public, immediately, with no trial?

USA is pretty fucked up place.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *estivalMan over a year ago

borehamwood

Do you need a machine gun to put out fires?

Is the appropriate punishment fort someone suspected of being "a thieving piece of shit" being shot to death by a member of the public, immediately, with no trial?

USA is pretty fucked up place."
machine gun pmsl it was an ar15 and one guy smashed him with a skate board one of the peacefull protesters was pointing a gun at him and one was a kiddy fiddler,fact is if the poluce had of actually been doing there job rittenhouse wouldnt of even been there at those riots oopps i meen peacefull protests

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *ercuryMan over a year ago

Grantham

It would be useful to have a non-partisan discussion thread about this but when bias boils over in every sentence… it’s quite a hard thing to do.

On a very, very basic level there are so many things wrong with him getting off with that and the precedent that it sets for gunslinging rednecks right across the country is horrific to think about."

I agree. What I've seen of the accused, he certainly came over as rather immature.

And allowing such a person to be walking strange streets, at a time of heightened tension, armed with a deadly firearm, fills me with horror.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It would be useful to have a non-partisan discussion thread about this but when bias boils over in every sentence… it’s quite a hard thing to do.

On a very, very basic level there are so many things wrong with him getting off with that and the precedent that it sets for gunslinging rednecks right across the country is horrific to think about."

Complains about bias

then proceeds to fill the post with bias

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

Do you need a machine gun to put out fires?

Is the appropriate punishment fort someone suspected of being "a thieving piece of shit" being shot to death by a member of the public, immediately, with no trial?

USA is pretty fucked up place.machine gun pmsl it was an ar15 and one guy smashed him with a skate board one of the peacefull protesters was pointing a gun at him and one was a kiddy fiddler,fact is if the poluce had of actually been doing there job rittenhouse wouldnt of even been there at those riots oopps i meen peacefull protests"

So it's okay he shot to death a few people because it's a different type of gun and it was the police's fault anyway.

Amazing.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *unnyPair OP Couple over a year ago

Seminole

It’s not against the law to open carry a weapon. It is against the law to attack someone with a skateboard, set fire to private property and sexually abuse children.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Do you need a machine gun to put out fires?

Is the appropriate punishment fort someone suspected of being "a thieving piece of shit" being shot to death by a member of the public, immediately, with no trial?

So it's okay he shot to death a few people because it's a different type of gun and it was the police's fault anyway.

Amazing."

Did you actually watch the trial?

It's quite obviously self defense as was obvious from the very first video released last year.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *estivalMan over a year ago

borehamwood

Do you need a machine gun to put out fires?

Is the appropriate punishment fort someone suspected of being "a thieving piece of shit" being shot to death by a member of the public, immediately, with no trial?

So it's okay he shot to death a few people because it's a different type of gun and it was the police's fault anyway.

Amazing."
they were attacking him and one had a firearm as well and if your gona acusse someone of having a machine gun get ya facts straight first,no doubt u think he crossed state lines with it aswell

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *unnyPair OP Couple over a year ago

Seminole

Don’t forget that almost every “protester” came from outside the area including the DB who got it in the arm.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

Do you need a machine gun to put out fires?

Is the appropriate punishment fort someone suspected of being "a thieving piece of shit" being shot to death by a member of the public, immediately, with no trial?

So it's okay he shot to death a few people because it's a different type of gun and it was the police's fault anyway.

Amazing.they were attacking him and one had a firearm as well and if your gona acusse someone of having a machine gun get ya facts straight first,no doubt u think he crossed state lines with it aswell"

Everything okay this morning?

You seem to be angry that I don't know the difference between different types of mass murder weaponry. And then made up something about what you think that I might think about crossing state lines.

This has gone beyond parody.

I'll leave you guys to the excitement that in the US you can shoot and kill people and get off. And yet if you're suspected of theft it's a reasonable reason for members of the public to shoot and kill you.

Have fun.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *unnyPair OP Couple over a year ago

Seminole

You’re very talented in the way of spinning things.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Do you need a machine gun to put out fires?

Is the appropriate punishment fort someone suspected of being "a thieving piece of shit" being shot to death by a member of the public, immediately, with no trial?

So it's okay he shot to death a few people because it's a different type of gun and it was the police's fault anyway.

Everything okay this morning?

You seem to be angry that I don't know the difference between different types of mass murder weaponry. And then made up something about what you think that I might think about crossing state lines.

This has gone beyond parody.

Have fun.

Deluded

If Kyle had been the aggressor then he would of been found guilty. But he wasnt, he was protecting himself from a baying mob. Which is his legal right, as now seen in the juries verdict.

Seems like alot of people would of liked to see his head smashed in. Says more about them imo

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You’re very talented in the way of spinning things. "

Taking notes from Don Lemon and Brian Stelter it seems

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *unnyPair OP Couple over a year ago

Seminole

And had he been killed by the mob, it would have not gotten any attention at all. I think yesterday there was a person killed at a protest from being beaten to death with a skateboard.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *unnyPair OP Couple over a year ago

Seminole

"You’re very talented in the way of spinning things.

Taking notes from Don Lemon and Brian Stelter it seems "

My thoughts exactly.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *wisted999Man over a year ago

North Bucks

Seems weird that he shot three people who just happened to be multiple felons rampaging through Kenosha. Seems those sort of riots attract a lot of criminal hangers on.

Massive respect to those who demonstrated last night and remained overwhelmingly peaceful.

Apart from Portland but we all knew that was going to happen. Bet they can’t refund the police quick enough.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Seems weird that he shot three people who just happened to be multiple felons rampaging through Kenosha. Seems those sort of riots attract a lot of criminal hangers on.

Massive respect to those who demonstrated last night and remained overwhelmingly peaceful.

Apart from Portland but we all knew that was going to happen. Bet they can’t refund the police quick enough. "

Thats just another day in Portland tbf

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *estivalMan over a year ago

borehamwood

Do you need a machine gun to put out fires?

Is the appropriate punishment fort someone suspected of being "a thieving piece of shit" being shot to death by a member of the public, immediately, with no trial?

So it's okay he shot to death a few people because it's a different type of gun and it was the police's fault anyway.

Everything okay this morning?

You seem to be angry that I don't know the difference between different types of mass murder weaponry. And then made up something about what you think that I might think about crossing state lines.

This has gone beyond parody.

Have fun.

"
everythings fine johnny how about yourself lol luckily the jury looked at the facts instead of letting emotions get involved,why did u think he had a machine gun?? Is that what the news told you?

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Backwards country. America is great. Is it F**k

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *or Fox SakeCouple over a year ago

Thornaby

He was extinguishing fires with a semi automatic rifle?

A hose may have been better.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And had he been killed by the mob, it would have not gotten any attention at all. I think yesterday there was a person killed at a protest from being beaten to death with a skateboard. "

Kyle should've allowed himself to be killed or injured before defending himself. The prosecution and MSNBC would rather have seen that!

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *ap d agde coupleCouple over a year ago

Broadstairs

Don’t think us in the U.K. understand US gun laws , so how can we judge? Anyway a jury has found him innocent

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Don’t think us in the U.K. understand US gun laws , so how can we judge? Anyway a jury has found him innocent "

Doesnt help when 3/4 of the media lie about the case

For example look at this framing at the beginning of the article, that is nothing but posioning the well

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/jury-finds-kyle-rittenhouse-not-guilty-of-all-charges-in-high-profile-murder-trial-184350101.html?guccounter=1

"Rittenhouse was 17 when he carried an AR-style semiautomatic rifle on the streets of Kenosha during a turbulent protest in the summer of 2020 and opened fire on demonstrators, killing Joseph Rosenbaum and Anthony Huber and seriously wounding Gaige Grosskreutz."

This article has been written after the verdict

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *9alMan over a year ago

Bridgend

"Don’t think us in the U.K. understand US gun laws , so how can we judge? Anyway a jury has found him innocent "

we have very restrictive gun laws in the UK but I dont think this case will help to get them relaxed

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Don’t think us in the U.K. understand US gun laws , so how can we judge? Anyway a jury has found him innocent

Doesnt help when 3/4 of the media lie about the case

For example look at this framing at the beginning of the article, that is nothing but

posioning the well

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/jury-finds-kyle-rittenhouse-not-guilty-of-all-charges-in-high-profile-murder-trial-184350101.html?guccounter=1

"Rittenhouse was 17 when he carried an AR-style semiautomatic rifle on the streets of

Kenosha during a turbulent protest in the summer of 2020 and opened fire on demonstrators, killing Joseph Rosenbaum and Anthony Huber and seriously wounding Gaige Grosskreutz."

This article has been written after the verdict "

You are talking absolute rubbish here.

It's way more than 3/4 of the media lying about the case

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Don’t think us in the U.K. understand US gun laws , so how can we judge? Anyway a jury has found him innocent

Doesnt help when 3/4 of the media lie about the case

For example look at this framing at the beginning of the article, that is nothing but

posioning the well

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/jury-finds-kyle-rittenhouse-not-guilty-of-all-charges-in-high-profile-murder-trial-184350101.html?guccounter=1

"Rittenhouse was 17 when he carried an AR-style semiautomatic rifle on the streets of

Kenosha during a turbulent protest in the summer of 2020 and opened fire on demonstrators, killing Joseph Rosenbaum and Anthony Huber and seriously wounding Gaige Grosskreutz."

This article has been written after the verdict

You are talking absolute rubbish here.

It's way more than 3/4 of the media lying about the case

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *irtylittletramp100TV/TS over a year ago

Notts

It would be useful to have a non-partisan discussion thread about this but when bias boils over in every sentence… it’s quite a hard thing to do.

On a very, very basic level there are so many things wrong with him getting off with that and the precedent that it sets for gunslinging rednecks right across the country is horrific to think about.except he didnt cross a state line with a firearm also whats your thought on the guy who was pointing a gun at him? Or the guy smashing him with a skateboard? Let me guess you would of tried talking to those people instead,you chase someone down who is armed your gona win a stupid prize"

wasnt he on his own housing estate? and I watched that news clip again and again, the mob attacked him and he responded to that attack...

As for biden wanting to unite america and then calling the trial and justice system out, WOW if trump had done that hed been accused of stirring trouble

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *ty31Man over a year ago

NW London

Unfortunately I don't know the ins and the outs of this case so I won't comment on the rights and wrongs. All I will say is that I do think there would be less of this sort of thing if it was a *privilege* to bear arms instead of a *right* to do so.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *or Fox SakeCouple over a year ago

Thornaby

It would be useful to have a non-partisan discussion thread about this but when bias boils over in every sentence… it’s quite a hard thing to do.

On a very, very basic level there are so many things wrong with him getting off with that and the precedent that it sets for gunslinging rednecks right across the country is horrific to think about.except he didnt cross a state line with a firearm also whats your thought on the guy who was pointing a gun at him? Or the guy smashing him with a skateboard? Let me guess you would of tried talking to those people instead,you chase someone down who is armed your gona win a stupid prize

wasnt he on his own housing estate? and I watched that news clip again and again, the mob attacked him and he responded to that attack...

As for biden wanting to unite america and then calling the trial and justice system out, WOW if trump had done that hed been accused of stirring trouble

He wasn't on his own estate.

He drove 30 minutes to get to the riot. He and others chose to take semi automatic weapons.

Biden said the jury decision must be respected.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It would be useful to have a non-partisan discussion thread about this but when bias boils over in every sentence… it’s quite a hard thing to do.

On a very, very basic level there are so many things wrong with him getting off with that and the precedent that it sets for gunslinging rednecks right across the country is horrific to think about.except he didnt cross a state line with a firearm also whats your thought on the guy who was pointing a gun at him? Or the guy smashing him with a skateboard? Let me guess you would of tried talking to those people instead,you chase someone down who is armed your gona win a stupid prize

wasnt he on his own housing estate? and I watched that news clip again and again, the mob attacked him and he responded to that attack...

As for biden wanting to unite america and then calling the trial and justice system out, WOW if trump had done that hed been accused of stirring trouble

He wasn't on his own estate.

He drove 30 minutes to get to the riot. He and others chose to take semi automatic weapons.

Biden said the jury decision must be respected."
then respect it nothing will change and it's america there problem.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *estivalMan over a year ago

borehamwood

It would be useful to have a non-partisan discussion thread about this but when bias boils over in every sentence… it’s quite a hard thing to do.

On a very, very basic level there are so many things wrong with him getting off with that and the precedent that it sets for gunslinging rednecks right across the country is horrific to think about.except he didnt cross a state line with a firearm also whats your thought on the guy who was pointing a gun at him? Or the guy smashing him with a skateboard? Let me guess you would of tried talking to those people instead,you chase someone down who is armed your gona win a stupid prize

wasnt he on his own housing estate? and I watched that news clip again and again, the mob attacked him and he responded to that attack...

As for biden wanting to unite america and then calling the trial and justice system out, WOW if trump had done that hed been accused of stirring trouble

He wasn't on his own estate.

He drove 30 minutes to get to the riot. He and others chose to take semi automatic weapons.

Biden said the jury decision must be respected."
yea he did say that at first but now there talking about trying to get him on federal charges so not really respecting the court and jury

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *urham 3 riversMan over a year ago

Co. Durham

"Don’t think us in the U.K. understand US gun laws , so how can we judge? Anyway a jury has found him innocent

we have very restrictive gun laws in the UK but I dont think this case will help to get them relaxed "

True it will only get our gun laws tightened more

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *ovebjsMan over a year ago

Bristol

"Don’t think us in the U.K. understand US gun laws , so how can we judge? Anyway a jury has found him innocent

we have very restrictive gun laws in the UK but I dont think this case will help to get them relaxed

True it will only get our gun laws tightened more "

Well there is not good reason for civilians to own guns anyway

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *urham 3 riversMan over a year ago

Co. Durham

"Don’t think us in the U.K. understand US gun laws , so how can we judge? Anyway a jury has found him innocent

we have very restrictive gun laws in the UK but I dont think this case will help to get them relaxed

True it will only get our gun laws tightened more

Well there is not good reason for civilians to own guns anyway

how about target shooting as at the Olympics ?

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *ust RachelTV/TS over a year ago

Horsham

[Removed by poster at 21/11/21 15:52:05]

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Don’t think us in the U.K. understand US gun laws , so how can we judge? Anyway a jury has found him innocent

we have very restrictive gun laws in the UK but I dont think this case will help to get them relaxed

True it will only get our gun laws tightened more

Well there is not good reason for civilians to own guns anyway

The case shows why there is a good reason why civilians could own guns. He would be dead if he didnt

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Don’t think us in the U.K. understand US gun laws , so how can we judge? Anyway a jury has found him innocent

we have very restrictive gun laws in the UK but I dont think this case will help to get them relaxed

True it will only get our gun laws tightened more

Well there is not good reason for civilians to own guns anyway

how about target shooting as at the Olympics ?"

Keep the guns used at the target range

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Don’t think us in the U.K. understand US gun laws , so how can we judge? Anyway a jury has found him innocent

we have very restrictive gun laws in the UK but I dont think this case will help to get them relaxed

True it will only get our gun laws tightened more

Well there is not good reason for civilians to own guns anyway

The case shows why there is a good reason why civilians could own guns. He would be dead if he didnt "

How do you know? Your guessing

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

"Don’t think us in the U.K. understand US gun laws , so how can we judge? Anyway a jury has found him innocent

we have very restrictive gun laws in the UK but I dont think this case will help to get them relaxed

True it will only get our gun laws tightened more

Well there is not good reason for civilians to own guns anyway

The case shows why there is a good reason why civilians could own guns. He would be dead if he didnt "

In this specific case, two people are dead.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Don’t think us in the U.K. understand US gun laws , so how can we judge? Anyway a jury has found him innocent

we have very restrictive gun laws in the UK but I dont think this case will help to get them relaxed

True it will only get our gun laws tightened more

Well there is not good reason for civilians to own guns anyway

The case shows why there is a good reason why civilians could own guns. He would be dead if he didnt

In this specific case, two people are dead."

Indeed

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Don’t think us in the U.K. understand US gun laws , so how can we judge? Anyway a jury has found him innocent

we have very restrictive gun laws in the UK but I dont think this case will help to get them relaxed

True it will only get our gun laws tightened more

Well there is not good reason for civilians to own guns anyway

The case shows why there is a good reason why civilians could own guns. He would be dead if he didnt

In this specific case, two people are dead."

Two people that attacked another without provocation.

Unless you think stopping arson is provocative

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

"Don’t think us in the U.K. understand US gun laws , so how can we judge? Anyway a jury has found him innocent

we have very restrictive gun laws in the UK but I dont think this case will help to get them relaxed

True it will only get our gun laws tightened more

Well there is not good reason for civilians to own guns anyway

The case shows why there is a good reason why civilians could own guns. He would be dead if he didnt

In this specific case, two people are dead.

Two people that attacked another without provocation.

Unless you think stopping arson is provocative "

If none of them had guns. Probably none of them would be dead.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *or Fox SakeCouple over a year ago

Thornaby

It would be useful to have a non-partisan discussion thread about this but when bias boils over in every sentence… it’s quite a hard thing to do.

On a very, very basic level there are so many things wrong with him getting off with that and the precedent that it sets for gunslinging rednecks right across the country is horrific to think about.except he didnt cross a state line with a firearm also whats your thought on the guy who was pointing a gun at him? Or the guy smashing him with a skateboard? Let me guess you would of tried talking to those people instead,you chase someone down who is armed your gona win a stupid prize

wasnt he on his own housing estate? and I watched that news clip again and again, the mob attacked him and he responded to that attack...

As for biden wanting to unite america and then calling the trial and justice system out, WOW if trump had done that hed been accused of stirring trouble

He wasn't on his own estate.

He drove 30 minutes to get to the riot. He and others chose to take semi automatic weapons.

Biden said the jury decision must be respected. yea he did say that at first but now there talking about trying to get him on federal charges so not really respecting the court and jury"

Who are talking about it?

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Don’t think us in the U.K. understand US gun laws , so how can we judge? Anyway a jury has found him innocent

we have very restrictive gun laws in the UK but I dont think this case will help to get them relaxed

True it will only get our gun laws tightened more

Well there is not good reason for civilians to own guns anyway

The case shows why there is a good reason why civilians could own guns. He would be dead if he didnt

In this specific case, two people are dead.

Two people that attacked another without provocation.

Unless you think stopping arson is provocative "

And we’re shot, using a gun ,

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So your trying to use skateboarders as scapegoats over 17 year olds welding an AR15. You people who protect these murderers are just playing out bannons and crews neo nazisms. Are you proud to be a fascist modern day Nazi or do you live pretending your ideals are sound? As they are very unsound and inhumane

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And had he been killed by the mob, it would have not gotten any attention at all. I think yesterday there was a person killed at a protest from being beaten to death with a skateboard. "

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So your trying to use skateboarders as scapegoats over 17 year olds welding an AR15. You people who protect these murderers are just playing out bannons and crews neo nazisms. Are you proud to be a fascist modern day Nazi or do you live pretending your ideals are sound? As they are very unsound and inhumane"

English please

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

[Removed by poster at 21/11/21 18:21:39]

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Veery interesting that you have several peeople here on the side of the agressors

As i have said before, says more about you"

Do you think these people deserved to be killed?

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Veery interesting that you have several peeople here on the side of the agressors

As i have said before, says more about you

Do you think these people deserved to be killed? "

Did Kyle deserve to be atttacked?

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Veery interesting that you have several peeople here on the side of the agressors

As i have said before, says more about you

Do you think these people deserved to be killed?

Did Kyle deserve to be atttacked?"

Definitely not, did his attackers deserve to die?

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Veery interesting that you have several peeople here on the side of the agressors

As i have said before, says more about you

Do you think these people deserved to be killed?

Did Kyle deserve to be atttacked?

Definitely not, did his attackers deserve to die? "

Deserve is a strong word.

I personally dont find it regrettable that a convicted child predator tried to attack a minor and got his Darwin award by express delivery.

Maybe dont try to attack people and grab rifles? A rifle that he is fully legal to open carry and use to defend himself if needed.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *ick270Man over a year ago

Here

Trial by media never works out, look at the USA now media wanted Biden that was not a good move was it?

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Veery interesting that you have several peeople here on the side of the agressors

As i have said before, says more about you

Do you think these people deserved to be killed?

Did Kyle deserve to be atttacked?

Definitely not, did his attackers deserve to die?

Deserve is a strong word.

I personally dont find it regrettable that a convicted child predator tried to attack a minor and got his Darwin award by express delivery.

Maybe dont try to attack people and grab rifles? A rifle that he is fully legal to open carry and use to defend himself if needed.

How the hell did he know he was a ‘child predator’ when he shot him? Btw, I am not surprised by the verdict, technically he didn’t break the law , no wonder America is so fucked up

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

"Trial by media never works out, look at the USA now media wanted Biden that was not a good move was it?"

Did Biden shoot some punters and get let off? What's going on here!

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Veery interesting that you have several peeople here on the side of the agressors

As i have said before, says more about you

Do you think these people deserved to be killed?

Did Kyle deserve to be atttacked?

Definitely not, did his attackers deserve to die?

Deserve is a strong word.

I personally dont find it regrettable that a convicted child predator tried to attack a minor and got his Darwin award by express delivery.

Maybe dont try to attack people and grab rifles? A rifle that he is fully legal to open carry and use to defend himself if needed.

How the hell did he know he was a ‘child predator’ when he shot him? Btw, I am not surprised by the verdict, technically he didn’t break the law , no wonder America is so fucked up "

When did i say he did?

Rosenbaum is the only one responsible for what happened to him. His actions lead him to being legally shot. If he had left Kyle alone he most likely would be alive right now.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *adetMan over a year ago

South of Ipswich

Rittenhouse grew up and lived in Kenosha with his father. He lived in Antioch when staying with his mother

He didn't carry a gun across state lines

He had been beaten to the ground, beaten with a skateboard, kicked in the face and the guy who was shot in the arm was pointing his unlicensed gun at Rittenhouse before he was shot

Rosenbaum was sentenced to 20 years imprisonment for sexually abusing children.

Huber had been charged with domestic abuse and also served time after he tried to kill his own brother

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Veery interesting that you have several peeople here on the side of the agressors

As i have said before, says more about you

Do you think these people deserved to be killed?

Did Kyle deserve to be atttacked?

Definitely not, did his attackers deserve to die?

Deserve is a strong word.

I personally dont find it regrettable that a convicted child predator tried to attack a minor and got his Darwin award by express delivery.

Maybe dont try to attack people and grab rifles? A rifle that he is fully legal to open carry and use to defend himself if needed.

How the hell did he know he was a ‘child predator’ when he shot him? Btw, I am not surprised by the verdict, technically he didn’t break the law , no wonder America is so fucked up

When did i say he did?

Rosenbaum is the only one responsible for what happened to him. His actions lead him to being legally shot. If he had left Kyle alone he most likely would be alive right now."

So he deserved to be killed ?

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Rittenhouse grew up and lived in Kenosha with his father. He lived in Antioch when staying with his mother

He didn't carry a gun across state lines

He had been beaten to the ground, beaten with a skateboard, kicked in the face and the guy who was shot in the arm was pointing his unlicensed gun at Rittenhouse before he was shot

Rosenbaum was sentenced to 20 years imprisonment for sexually abusing children.

Huber had been charged with domestic abuse and also served time after he tried to kill his own brother"

Tbh the verdict isn’t a surprise and judging by the law he was not guilty, there were 3 people shot , did the other person have a criminal record?

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *adetMan over a year ago

South of Ipswich

"Rittenhouse grew up and lived in Kenosha with his father. He lived in Antioch when staying with his mother

He didn't carry a gun across state lines

He had been beaten to the ground, beaten with a skateboard, kicked in the face and the guy who was shot in the arm was pointing his unlicensed gun at Rittenhouse before he was shot

Rosenbaum was sentenced to 20 years imprisonment for sexually abusing children.

Huber had been charged with domestic abuse and also served time after he tried to kill his own brother

Tbh the verdict isn’t a surprise and judging by the law he was not guilty, there were 3 people shot , did the other person have a criminal record? "

The other person who was shot in the arm was pointing his unlicensed gun at Rittenhouses face before Rittenhouse shot him in the arm

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Rittenhouse grew up and lived in Kenosha with his father. He lived in Antioch when staying with his mother

He didn't carry a gun across state lines

He had been beaten to the ground, beaten with a skateboard, kicked in the face and the guy who was shot in the arm was pointing his unlicensed gun at Rittenhouse before he was shot

Rosenbaum was sentenced to 20 years imprisonment for sexually abusing children.

Huber had been charged with domestic abuse and also served time after he tried to kill his own brother

Tbh the verdict isn’t a surprise and judging by the law he was not guilty, there were 3 people shot , did the other person have a criminal record?

The other person who was shot in the arm was pointing his unlicensed gun at Rittenhouses face before Rittenhouse shot him in the arm"

I see, there is nothing to complain about then, 3 people shot, 2 killed , 1 injured , I can’t see why it even went to trial.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *or Fox SakeCouple over a year ago

Thornaby

"Rittenhouse grew up and lived in Kenosha with his father. He lived in Antioch when staying with his mother

He didn't carry a gun across state lines

He had been beaten to the ground, beaten with a skateboard, kicked in the face and the guy who was shot in the arm was pointing his unlicensed gun at Rittenhouse before he was shot

Rosenbaum was sentenced to 20 years imprisonment for sexually abusing children.

Huber had been charged with domestic abuse and also served time after he tried to kill his own brother

Tbh the verdict isn’t a surprise and judging by the law he was not guilty, there were 3 people shot , did the other person have a criminal record?

The other person who was shot in the arm was pointing his unlicensed gun at Rittenhouses face before Rittenhouse shot him in the arm

I see, there is nothing to complain about then, 3 people shot, 2 killed , 1 injured , I can’t see why it even went to trial. "

Can someone please explain the following

If he was there to put out fires why was he carrying an assault rifle?

If he felt in danger, why didn't he get behind the police lines?

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Veery interesting that you have several peeople here on the side of the agressors

As i have said before, says more about you

Do you think these people deserved to be killed?

Did Kyle deserve to be atttacked?

Definitely not, did his attackers deserve to die?

Deserve is a strong word.

I personally dont find it regrettable that a convicted child predator tried to attack a minor and got his Darwin award by express delivery.

Maybe dont try to attack people and grab rifles? A rifle that he is fully legal to open carry and use to defend himself if needed.

How the hell did he know he was a ‘child predator’ when he shot him? Btw, I am not surprised by the verdict, technically he didn’t break the law , no wonder America is so fucked up

When did i say he did?

Rosenbaum is the only one responsible for what happened to him. His actions lead him to being legally shot. If he had left Kyle alone he most likely would be alive right now.

So he deserved to be killed ? "

Im not getting in to these stupid arguements that go round and round with you. So this is it

Legally, he deserved to be shot. If the outcome of that is that he dies, thats on him.

The fact that open/concealed carry is even a thing is a totally different debate.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *hybloke67Man over a year ago

ROMFORD

Unless you are American or live/lived in the USA I very much doubt you are going to understand the gun laws in the USA.

So when it comes to any trail involving firearms, us over here just do not understand the whole picture.

Personally I still can't understand how OJ got acquitted.!

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *irtylittletramp100TV/TS over a year ago

Notts

"Veery interesting that you have several peeople here on the side of the agressors

As i have said before, says more about you

Do you think these people deserved to be killed? "

Those thugs in Europe used live rounds against civilians.... well a mob of civilians... yes the police did in rotterdam...OMG!

The mob shouldn't have behaved how they did and ritterman could have stayed away.... but both didn't. ... and the mob attacked him.... play with fire boys and girls....

As for Biden and vice pres, both have made it clear they think justice hasn't been done.... so much for bringing people together, hes opened door for trump.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Rittenhouse grew up and lived in Kenosha with his father. He lived in Antioch when staying with his mother

He didn't carry a gun across state lines

He had been beaten to the ground, beaten with a skateboard, kicked in the face and the guy who was shot in the arm was pointing his unlicensed gun at Rittenhouse before he was shot

Rosenbaum was sentenced to 20 years imprisonment for sexually abusing children.

Huber had been charged with domestic abuse and also served time after he tried to kill his own brother

Tbh the verdict isn’t a surprise and judging by the law he was not guilty, there were 3 people shot , did the other person have a criminal record?

The other person who was shot in the arm was pointing his unlicensed gun at Rittenhouses face before Rittenhouse shot him in the arm

I see, there is nothing to complain about then, 3 people shot, 2 killed , 1 injured , I can’t see why it even went to trial.

Can someone please explain the following

If he was there to put out fires why was he carrying an assault rifle?

If he felt in danger, why didn't he get behind the police lines?"

Someone didnt watch any of the trial it seems

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *irtylittletramp100TV/TS over a year ago

Notts

"Veery interesting that you have several peeople here on the side of the agressors

As i have said before, says more about you

Do you think these people deserved to be killed?

Did Kyle deserve to be atttacked?

Definitely not, did his attackers deserve to die?

Deserve is a strong word.

I personally dont find it regrettable that a convicted child predator tried to attack a minor and got his Darwin award by express delivery.

Maybe dont try to attack people and grab rifles? A rifle that he is fully legal to open carry and use to defend himself if needed.

How the hell did he know he was a ‘child predator’ when he shot him? Btw, I am not surprised by the verdict, technically he didn’t break the law , no wonder America is so fucked up

When did i say he did?

Rosenbaum is the only one responsible for what happened to him. His actions lead him to being legally shot. If he had left Kyle alone he most likely would be alive right now.

So he deserved to be killed ?

Im not getting in to these stupid arguements that go round and round with you. So this is it

Legally, he deserved to be shot. If the outcome of that is that he dies, thats on him.

The fact that open/concealed carry is even a thing is a totally different debate. "

Foxes like being chased and then cry when the hounds get them, pointless, UK and USA different worlds

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *adetMan over a year ago

South of Ipswich

"Rittenhouse grew up and lived in Kenosha with his father. He lived in Antioch when staying with his mother

He didn't carry a gun across state lines

He had been beaten to the ground, beaten with a skateboard, kicked in the face and the guy who was shot in the arm was pointing his unlicensed gun at Rittenhouse before he was shot

Rosenbaum was sentenced to 20 years imprisonment for sexually abusing children.

Huber had been charged with domestic abuse and also served time after he tried to kill his own brother

Tbh the verdict isn’t a surprise and judging by the law he was not guilty, there were 3 people shot , did the other person have a criminal record?

The other person who was shot in the arm was pointing his unlicensed gun at Rittenhouses face before Rittenhouse shot him in the arm

I see, there is nothing to complain about then, 3 people shot, 2 killed , 1 injured , I can’t see why it even went to trial.

Can someone please explain the following

If he was there to put out fires why was he carrying an assault rifle?

If he felt in danger, why didn't he get behind the police lines?"

He tried to get to the police but was chased away from them. He probably brought a gun for the same reason that the person who was pointing an unlicensed gun in Rittenhouses face. Three on one and one of those also had a gun

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

"Unless you are American or live/lived in the USA I very much doubt you are going to understand the gun laws in the USA.

So when it comes to any trail involving firearms, us over here just do not understand the whole picture.

Personally I still can't understand how OJ got acquitted.!"

It's easy to understand.

Gun = good.

Shooting and killing punters = also good.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *or Fox SakeCouple over a year ago

Thornaby

"Rittenhouse grew up and lived in Kenosha with his father. He lived in Antioch when staying with his mother

He didn't carry a gun across state lines

He had been beaten to the ground, beaten with a skateboard, kicked in the face and the guy who was shot in the arm was pointing his unlicensed gun at Rittenhouse before he was shot

Rosenbaum was sentenced to 20 years imprisonment for sexually abusing children.

Huber had been charged with domestic abuse and also served time after he tried to kill his own brother

Tbh the verdict isn’t a surprise and judging by the law he was not guilty, there were 3 people shot , did the other person have a criminal record?

The other person who was shot in the arm was pointing his unlicensed gun at Rittenhouses face before Rittenhouse shot him in the arm

I see, there is nothing to complain about then, 3 people shot, 2 killed , 1 injured , I can’t see why it even went to trial.

Can someone please explain the following

If he was there to put out fires why was he carrying an assault rifle?

If he felt in danger, why didn't he get behind the police lines?

Where's the evidence he couldn't make it to police lines?

The unlicensed gun, was it a semi automatic assault rifle?

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Unless you are American or live/lived in the USA I very much doubt you are going to understand the gun laws in the USA.

So when it comes to any trail involving firearms, us over here just do not understand the whole picture.

Personally I still can't understand how OJ got acquitted.!"

That is true, if you can accept the verdict from this case then you have to accept the verdict from the OJ case

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Rittenhouse grew up and lived in Kenosha with his father. He lived in Antioch when staying with his mother

He didn't carry a gun across state lines

He had been beaten to the ground, beaten with a skateboard, kicked in the face and the guy who was shot in the arm was pointing his unlicensed gun at Rittenhouse before he was shot

Rosenbaum was sentenced to 20 years imprisonment for sexually abusing children.

Huber had been charged with domestic abuse and also served time after he tried to kill his own brother

Tbh the verdict isn’t a surprise and judging by the law he was not guilty, there were 3 people shot , did the other person have a criminal record?

The other person who was shot in the arm was pointing his unlicensed gun at Rittenhouses face before Rittenhouse shot him in the arm

I see, there is nothing to complain about then, 3 people shot, 2 killed , 1 injured , I can’t see why it even went to trial.

Can someone please explain the following

If he was there to put out fires why was he carrying an assault rifle?

If he felt in danger, why didn't he get behind the police lines?

The guy should have shot Rittenhouse first then , that’s his it works

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Veery interesting that you have several peeople here on the side of the agressors

As i have said before, says more about you

Do you think these people deserved to be killed?

Those thugs in Europe used live rounds against civilians.... well a mob of civilians... yes the police did in rotterdam...OMG!

The mob shouldn't have behaved how they did and ritterman could have stayed away.... but both didn't. ... and the mob attacked him.... play with fire boys and girls....

As for Biden and vice pres, both have made it clear they think justice hasn't been done.... so much for bringing people together, hes opened door for trump.

PMSL, trump is finished, I know it’s hard to accept but he won’t be president again,

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Rittenhouse grew up and lived in Kenosha with his father. He lived in Antioch when staying with his mother

He didn't carry a gun across state lines

He had been beaten to the ground, beaten with a skateboard, kicked in the face and the guy who was shot in the arm was pointing his unlicensed gun at Rittenhouse before he was shot

Rosenbaum was sentenced to 20 years imprisonment for sexually abusing children.

Huber had been charged with domestic abuse and also served time after he tried to kill his own brother

Tbh the verdict isn’t a surprise and judging by the law he was not guilty, there were 3 people shot , did the other person have a criminal record?

The other person who was shot in the arm was pointing his unlicensed gun at Rittenhouses face before Rittenhouse shot him in the arm

I see, there is nothing to complain about then, 3 people shot, 2 killed , 1 injured , I can’t see why it even went to trial.

Can someone please explain the following

If he was there to put out fires why was he carrying an assault rifle?

If he felt in danger, why didn't he get behind the police lines?

The guy should have shot Rittenhouse first then , that’s his it works "

How it works

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Unless you are American or live/lived in the USA I very much doubt you are going to understand the gun laws in the USA.

So when it comes to any trail involving firearms, us over here just do not understand the whole picture.

Personally I still can't understand how OJ got acquitted.!

It's easy to understand.

Gun = good.

Shooting and killing punters = also good."

Man with gun points his gun at man with gun, gets injured ,then man with gun then shoots and kills two other people. All good

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *wisted999Man over a year ago

North Bucks

I wonder why they didn’t arrest shrodingers arm man for his unlicensed firearm?

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *hybloke67Man over a year ago

ROMFORD

"Unless you are American or live/lived in the USA I very much doubt you are going to understand the gun laws in the USA.

So when it comes to any trail involving firearms, us over here just do not understand the whole picture.

Personally I still can't understand how OJ got acquitted.!

That is true, if you can accept the verdict from this case then you have to accept the verdict from the OJ case "

Yeah, so if you accept the verdict of the OJ trail you have to accept the verdict of this trail.

Simples.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *irtylittletramp100TV/TS over a year ago

Notts

"Veery interesting that you have several peeople here on the side of the agressors

As i have said before, says more about you

Do you think these people deserved to be killed?

Those thugs in Europe used live rounds against civilians.... well a mob of civilians... yes the police did in rotterdam...OMG!

The mob shouldn't have behaved how they did and ritterman could have stayed away.... but both didn't. ... and the mob attacked him.... play with fire boys and girls....

As for Biden and vice pres, both have made it clear they think justice hasn't been done.... so much for bringing people together, hes opened door for trump.

PMSL, trump is finished, I know it’s hard to accept but he won’t be president again,

There's something in the water

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

"Veery interesting that you have several peeople here on the side of the agressors

As i have said before, says more about you

Do you think these people deserved to be killed?

Those thugs in Europe used live rounds against civilians.... well a mob of civilians... yes the police did in rotterdam...OMG!

The mob shouldn't have behaved how they did and ritterman could have stayed away.... but both didn't. ... and the mob attacked him.... play with fire boys and girls....

As for Biden and vice pres, both have made it clear they think justice hasn't been done.... so much for bringing people together, hes opened door for trump.

PMSL, trump is finished, I know it’s hard to accept but he won’t be president again,

There's something in the water

Human shit? Or is that just here.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *irtylittletramp100TV/TS over a year ago

Notts

"Veery interesting that you have several peeople here on the side of the agressors

As i have said before, says more about you

Do you think these people deserved to be killed?

Those thugs in Europe used live rounds against civilians.... well a mob of civilians... yes the police did in rotterdam...OMG!

The mob shouldn't have behaved how they did and ritterman could have stayed away.... but both didn't. ... and the mob attacked him.... play with fire boys and girls....

As for Biden and vice pres, both have made it clear they think justice hasn't been done.... so much for bringing people together, hes opened door for trump.

PMSL, trump is finished, I know it’s hard to accept but he won’t be president again,

There's something in the water

Human shit? Or is that just here. "

That's just your taps!

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Clearly the American Constitution is at odds with itself, freedom of speech and the right to bear arms. Put it this way, you say something and someone don’t agree with it you have the right to shoot someone because of it.

You can’t make this stuff up.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Clearly the American Constitution is at odds with itself, freedom of speech and the right to bear arms. Put it this way, you say something and someone don’t agree with it you have the right to shoot someone because of it.

You can’t make this stuff up.

Im sorry. But can you explain how free of specch is involed in this?

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *erlins5Man over a year ago

South Fife

"Don’t think us in the U.K. understand US gun laws , so how can we judge? Anyway a jury has found him innocent

we have very restrictive gun laws in the UK but I dont think this case will help to get them relaxed

True it will only get our gun laws tightened more "

Surely that is a good thing?

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Don’t think us in the U.K. understand US gun laws , so how can we judge? Anyway a jury has found him innocent

we have very restrictive gun laws in the UK but I dont think this case will help to get them relaxed

True it will only get our gun laws tightened more

Surely that is a good thing? "

You'd think so.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *estivalMan over a year ago

borehamwood

You can’t make this stuff up.

the kid was the victim of same failed system as those who died. He will have to live with his mistakes, I hope he realises that he is just another pawn in a twisted game of human suffering delivered by extremist elements."
who got shot because someone said somethinhg who some one didnt agree with?? I thought he shot them because they were attacking him

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *estivalMan over a year ago

borehamwood

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *ittleAcornMan over a year ago

visiting the beach

There are two very different things to consider in this case. The first, and obviously most important in regard to guilt or otherwise, is the law as it stands in Wisconsin.

It appears that under the self-defence laws, if he felt he was threatened, and felt in fear of his life. He was justified in using lethal force.

I believe the prosecutor failed to make a very good case, and the defence were successful in convincing the jury he did feel this way.

The very separate issue is the morality of this law, how it can be used to justify people seeking confrontation to then defend their actions for example.

I think both these things are quite alien to UK (and in fact much of European) thinking.

To my mind these laws are very wrong, in fact I think that about ownership of guns also. But those are not the points of this case.

Sadly I think this was the right decision under these horribly wrong laws.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There are two very different things to consider in this case. The first, and obviously most important in regard to guilt or otherwise, is the law as it stands in Wisconsin.

It appears that under the self-defence laws, if he felt he was threatened, and felt in fear of his life. He was justified in using lethal force.

I believe the prosecutor failed to make a very good case, and the defence were successful in convincing the jury he did feel this way.

The very separate issue is the morality of this law, how it can be used to justify people seeking confrontation to then defend their actions for example.

I think both these things are quite alien to UK (and in fact much of European) thinking.

To my mind these laws are very wrong, in fact I think that about ownership of guns also. But those are not the points of this case.

Sadly I think this was the right decision under these horribly wrong laws."

You are making an assumption he went for confrontation.

if there was evidence that he went from confrontation then from my knowledge that would not constitute self defense

The only evidence we have is that he went to provide medical aid and his rifle was for protection not confronting rioters

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There are two very different things to consider in this case. The first, and obviously most important in regard to guilt or otherwise, is the law as it stands in Wisconsin.

It appears that under the self-defence laws, if he felt he was threatened, and felt in fear of his life. He was justified in using lethal force.

I believe the prosecutor failed to make a very good case, and the defence were successful in convincing the jury he did feel this way.

The very separate issue is the morality of this law, how it can be used to justify people seeking confrontation to then defend their actions for example.

I think both these things are quite alien to UK (and in fact much of European) thinking.

To my mind these laws are very wrong, in fact I think that about ownership of guns also. But those are not the points of this case.

Sadly I think this was the right decision under these horribly wrong laws."

I agree, and if Rittenhouse had been shot and killed before he had chance to shoot the same laws would apply , it is a mess

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There are two very different things to consider in this case. The first, and obviously most important in regard to guilt or otherwise, is the law as it stands in Wisconsin.

It appears that under the self-defence laws, if he felt he was threatened, and felt in fear of his life. He was justified in using lethal force.

I believe the prosecutor failed to make a very good case, and the defence were successful in convincing the jury he did feel this way.

The very separate issue is the morality of this law, how it can be used to justify people seeking confrontation to then defend their actions for example.

I think both these things are quite alien to UK (and in fact much of European) thinking.

To my mind these laws are very wrong, in fact I think that about ownership of guns also. But those are not the points of this case.

Sadly I think this was the right decision under these horribly wrong laws.

I agree, and if Rittenhouse had been shot and killed before he had chance to shoot the same laws would apply , it is a mess "

No they wouldnt

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *or Fox SakeCouple over a year ago

Thornaby

"There are two very different things to consider in this case. The first, and obviously most important in regard to guilt or otherwise, is the law as it stands in Wisconsin.

It appears that under the self-defence laws, if he felt he was threatened, and felt in fear of his life. He was justified in using lethal force.

I believe the prosecutor failed to make a very good case, and the defence were successful in convincing the jury he did feel this way.

The very separate issue is the morality of this law, how it can be used to justify people seeking confrontation to then defend their actions for example.

I think both these things are quite alien to UK (and in fact much of European) thinking.

To my mind these laws are very wrong, in fact I think that about ownership of guns also. But those are not the points of this case.

Sadly I think this was the right decision under these horribly wrong laws.

You are making an assumption he went for confrontation.

if there was evidence that he went from confrontation then from my knowledge that would not constitute self defense

The only evidence we have is that he went to provide medical aid and his rifle was for protection not confronting rioters"

you don't go to provide medical air armed with an assault rifle

you don't claim to be standing guard at the same time, i believe he made that claim to a tv crew

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There are two very different things to consider in this case. The first, and obviously most important in regard to guilt or otherwise, is the law as it stands in Wisconsin.

It appears that under the self-defence laws, if he felt he was threatened, and felt in fear of his life. He was justified in using lethal force.

I believe the prosecutor failed to make a very good case, and the defence were successful in convincing the jury he did feel this way.

The very separate issue is the morality of this law, how it can be used to justify people seeking confrontation to then defend their actions for example.

I think both these things are quite alien to UK (and in fact much of European) thinking.

To my mind these laws are very wrong, in fact I think that about ownership of guns also. But those are not the points of this case.

Sadly I think this was the right decision under these horribly wrong laws.

You are making an assumption he went for confrontation.

if there was evidence that he went from confrontation then from my knowledge that would not constitute self defense

The only evidence we have is that he went to provide medical aid and his rifle was for protection not confronting rioters

you don't go to provide medical air armed with an assault rifle

you don't claim to be standing guard at the same time, i believe he made that claim to a tv crew"

In that exact interview he said his other job is to provide medical aid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpDZJ_dPxYo

The exact same guy filming has spoken alot about how it was self defense