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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Should we position British troops on French beaches to stop those poor souls setting out on a dangerous, possibly deadly sea voyage?
Also use SAS to hunt down the people smugglers? "
Apart from the safety aspect, France, like the UK, has no desire to hang on to these refugees and no obligation to stop them.
The UK (and every other country en route on these peoples travels as they flee their own countries can ill afford to keep them) does not have the space, money or the will to adopt so many people from totally different cultures.
Placing troops in France or turning back boats in the channel does very little to stop the flow of refugees. This needs to be done at source by tackling the reason that they flee.
This is where the focus should be rather than suggesting that British troops should patrol French beaches (although I appreciate that this was never a serious suggestion). |
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"Should we position British troops on French beaches to stop those poor souls setting out on a dangerous, possibly deadly sea voyage?
Also use SAS to hunt down the people smugglers? "
And what will these troops do? |
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By *coptoCouple
over a year ago
Côte d'Azur & Great Yarmouth |
"This needs to be done at source by tackling the reason that they flee"
We know the countries they're coming from...
Threaten to stop foreign/development aid to their governments and see how quickly they'll put their own troops on their own borders and "stop those poor souls setting out on a dangerous journey", and how efficiently they'll manage it! |
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""This needs to be done at source by tackling the reason that they flee"
We know the countries they're coming from...
Threaten to stop foreign/development aid to their governments and see how quickly they'll put their own troops on their own borders and "stop those poor souls setting out on a dangerous journey", and how efficiently they'll manage it!"
What country are they coming from? |
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"Should we position British troops on French beaches to stop those poor souls setting out on a dangerous, possibly deadly sea voyage?
Also use SAS to hunt down the people smugglers?
And what will these troops do? "
Stop them setting out to sea, seizing the boats. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Should we position British troops on French beaches to stop those poor souls setting out on a dangerous, possibly deadly sea voyage?
Also use SAS to hunt down the people smugglers?
And what will these troops do?
Stop them setting out to sea, seizing the boats."
PMSL, on French land? Can the French have troops on British beaches? |
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"Should we position British troops on French beaches to stop those poor souls setting out on a dangerous, possibly deadly sea voyage?
Also use SAS to hunt down the people smugglers?
And what will these troops do?
Stop them setting out to sea, seizing the boats.
PMSL, on French land? Can the French have troops on British beaches? "
What’s that got to do with anything? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Should we position British troops on French beaches to stop those poor souls setting out on a dangerous, possibly deadly sea voyage?
Also use SAS to hunt down the people smugglers?
And what will these troops do?
Stop them setting out to sea, seizing the boats.
PMSL, on French land? Can the French have troops on British beaches?
What’s that got to do with anything?"
You want British troops on French land? The French might want troops on British land, so it could work ? Btw, do we know which beaches they are using? |
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""This needs to be done at source by tackling the reason that they flee"
We know the countries they're coming from...
Threaten to stop foreign/development aid to their governments and see how quickly they'll put their own troops on their own borders and "stop those poor souls setting out on a dangerous journey", and how efficiently they'll manage it!"
Most of these poor souls are young men leaving there women behind |
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"Should we position British troops on French beaches to stop those poor souls setting out on a dangerous, possibly deadly sea voyage?
Also use SAS to hunt down the people smugglers?
And what will these troops do?
Stop them setting out to sea, seizing the boats.
PMSL, on French land? Can the French have troops on British beaches?
What’s that got to do with anything?
You want British troops on French land? The French might want troops on British land, so it could work ? Btw, do we know which beaches they are using? "
Actually I wouldn’t mind, we are friends after all and just helping each other out. They would soon get fed up with the food and go back. I have a rough idea of the geography so it would be quite easy. Dunkirk to Le Touquet should do it. I would take my clubs and command operations from a golf course in Le Touquet. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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""This needs to be done at source by tackling the reason that they flee"
We know the countries they're coming from...
Threaten to stop foreign/development aid to their governments and see how quickly they'll put their own troops on their own borders and "stop those poor souls setting out on a dangerous journey", and how efficiently they'll manage it! Most of these poor souls are young men leaving there women behind "
And? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Should we position British troops on French beaches to stop those poor souls setting out on a dangerous, possibly deadly sea voyage?
Also use SAS to hunt down the people smugglers?
And what will these troops do?
Stop them setting out to sea, seizing the boats.
PMSL, on French land? Can the French have troops on British beaches?
What’s that got to do with anything?
You want British troops on French land? The French might want troops on British land, so it could work ? Btw, do we know which beaches they are using?
Actually I wouldn’t mind, we are friends after all and just helping each other out. They would soon get fed up with the food and go back. I have a rough idea of the geography so it would be quite easy. Dunkirk to Le Touquet should do it. I would take my clubs and command operations from a golf course in Le Touquet."
Nice, about 100km? |
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""This needs to be done at source by tackling the reason that they flee"
We know the countries they're coming from...
Threaten to stop foreign/development aid to their governments and see how quickly they'll put their own troops on their own borders and "stop those poor souls setting out on a dangerous journey", and how efficiently they'll manage it! Most of these poor souls are young men leaving there women behind
And? "
Very noble leaving there women and if they have any children behind , |
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By (user no longer on site)
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""This needs to be done at source by tackling the reason that they flee"
We know the countries they're coming from...
Threaten to stop foreign/development aid to their governments and see how quickly they'll put their own troops on their own borders and "stop those poor souls setting out on a dangerous journey", and how efficiently they'll manage it! Most of these poor souls are young men leaving there women behind
And? Very noble leaving there women and if they have any children behind ,"
Maybe it is to dangerous for children to cross the channel, why are you assuming they are married with children? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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""This needs to be done at source by tackling the reason that they flee"
We know the countries they're coming from...
Threaten to stop foreign/development aid to their governments and see how quickly they'll put their own troops on their own borders and "stop those poor souls setting out on a dangerous journey", and how efficiently they'll manage it! Most of these poor souls are young men leaving there women behind
And? Very noble leaving there women and if they have any children behind ,"
Fabtastic trying to bait you. He does this to winded people up and get them blocked. Don’t fall of it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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""This needs to be done at source by tackling the reason that they flee"
We know the countries they're coming from...
Threaten to stop foreign/development aid to their governments and see how quickly they'll put their own troops on their own borders and "stop those poor souls setting out on a dangerous journey", and how efficiently they'll manage it! Most of these poor souls are young men leaving there women behind
And? Very noble leaving there women and if they have any children behind ,
Fabtastic trying to bait you. He does this to winded people up and get them blocked. Don’t fall of it."
Hey, look whose back, when did this happen? No idea what your on about |
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""This needs to be done at source by tackling the reason that they flee"
We know the countries they're coming from...
Threaten to stop foreign/development aid to their governments and see how quickly they'll put their own troops on their own borders and "stop those poor souls setting out on a dangerous journey", and how efficiently they'll manage it! Most of these poor souls are young men leaving there women behind
And? Very noble leaving there women and if they have any children behind ,
Fabtastic trying to bait you. He does this to winded people up and get them blocked. Don’t fall of it."
He is the Devils avocado indeed. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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""This needs to be done at source by tackling the reason that they flee"
We know the countries they're coming from...
Threaten to stop foreign/development aid to their governments and see how quickly they'll put their own troops on their own borders and "stop those poor souls setting out on a dangerous journey", and how efficiently they'll manage it! Most of these poor souls are young men leaving there women behind
And? Very noble leaving there women and if they have any children behind ,
Fabtastic trying to bait you. He does this to winded people up and get them blocked. Don’t fall of it.
He is the Devils avocado indeed."
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By (user no longer on site)
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""This needs to be done at source by tackling the reason that they flee"
We know the countries they're coming from...
Threaten to stop foreign/development aid to their governments and see how quickly they'll put their own troops on their own borders and "stop those poor souls setting out on a dangerous journey", and how efficiently they'll manage it! Most of these poor souls are young men leaving there women behind
And? Very noble leaving there women and if they have any children behind ,
Fabtastic trying to bait you. He does this to winded people up and get them blocked. Don’t fall of it.
Hey, look whose back, when did this happen? No idea what your on about "
You said the same yesterday, is your memory so bad you can’t remember what you said the day before?? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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""This needs to be done at source by tackling the reason that they flee"
We know the countries they're coming from...
Threaten to stop foreign/development aid to their governments and see how quickly they'll put their own troops on their own borders and "stop those poor souls setting out on a dangerous journey", and how efficiently they'll manage it! Most of these poor souls are young men leaving there women behind
And? Very noble leaving there women and if they have any children behind ,
Fabtastic trying to bait you. He does this to winded people up and get them blocked. Don’t fall of it.
Hey, look whose back, when did this happen? No idea what your on about
You said the same yesterday, is your memory so bad you can’t remember what you said the day before??"
Do you have anything to contribute to the thread, or is this just about making false accusations and a personal attack ?? |
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""This needs to be done at source by tackling the reason that they flee"
We know the countries they're coming from...
Threaten to stop foreign/development aid to their governments and see how quickly they'll put their own troops on their own borders and "stop those poor souls setting out on a dangerous journey", and how efficiently they'll manage it! Most of these poor souls are young men leaving there women behind
And? Very noble leaving there women and if they have any children behind ,
Fabtastic trying to bait you. He does this to winded people up and get them blocked. Don’t fall of it.
Hey, look whose back, when did this happen? No idea what your on about
You said the same yesterday, is your memory so bad you can’t remember what you said the day before??
Do you have anything to contribute to the thread, or is this just about making false accusations and a personal attack ??"
Do we get to vote? |
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By *amish SMan
over a year ago
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"Should we position British troops on French beaches to stop those poor souls setting out on a dangerous, possibly deadly sea voyage?
Also use SAS to hunt down the people smugglers? "
Doesn't need SAS to hunt them down, if they were that elusive they'd be out of business. |
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""This needs to be done at source by tackling the reason that they flee"
We know the countries they're coming from...
Threaten to stop foreign/development aid to their governments and see how quickly they'll put their own troops on their own borders and "stop those poor souls setting out on a dangerous journey", and how efficiently they'll manage it! Most of these poor souls are young men leaving there women behind
And? Very noble leaving there women and if they have any children behind ,
Fabtastic trying to bait you. He does this to winded people up and get them blocked. Don’t fall of it.
Hey, look whose back, when did this happen? No idea what your on about
You said the same yesterday, is your memory so bad you can’t remember what you said the day before??
Do you have anything to contribute to the thread, or is this just about making false accusations and a personal attack ??
Do we get to vote?"
would you respect the vote tho lol |
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"Should we position British troops on French beaches to stop those poor souls setting out on a dangerous, possibly deadly sea voyage?
Also use SAS to hunt down the people smugglers?
Doesn't need SAS to hunt them down, if they were that elusive they'd be out of business. "
the French can’t find them! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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""This needs to be done at source by tackling the reason that they flee"
We know the countries they're coming from...
Threaten to stop foreign/development aid to their governments and see how quickly they'll put their own troops on their own borders and "stop those poor souls setting out on a dangerous journey", and how efficiently they'll manage it! Most of these poor souls are young men leaving there women behind
And? Very noble leaving there women and if they have any children behind ,
Fabtastic trying to bait you. He does this to winded people up and get them blocked. Don’t fall of it.
Hey, look whose back, when did this happen? No idea what your on about
You said the same yesterday, is your memory so bad you can’t remember what you said the day before??
Do you have anything to contribute to the thread, or is this just about making false accusations and a personal attack ??
Do we get to vote?would you respect the vote tho lol"
Yeah, if it was legally binding and not advisory |
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"Should we position British troops on French beaches to stop those poor souls setting out on a dangerous, possibly deadly sea voyage?
Also use SAS to hunt down the people smugglers?
Doesn't need SAS to hunt them down, if they were that elusive they'd be out of business. the French can’t find them!"
aw I’d bet me house there really looking hard lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
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""This needs to be done at source by tackling the reason that they flee"
We know the countries they're coming from...
Threaten to stop foreign/development aid to their governments and see how quickly they'll put their own troops on their own borders and "stop those poor souls setting out on a dangerous journey", and how efficiently they'll manage it! Most of these poor souls are young men leaving there women behind
And? Very noble leaving there women and if they have any children behind ,
Fabtastic trying to bait you. He does this to winded people up and get them blocked. Don’t fall of it.
Hey, look whose back, when did this happen? No idea what your on about
You said the same yesterday, is your memory so bad you can’t remember what you said the day before??
Do you have anything to contribute to the thread, or is this just about making false accusations and a personal attack ??"
Bit of both  |
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"Should we position British troops on French beaches to stop those poor souls setting out on a dangerous, possibly deadly sea voyage?
Also use SAS to hunt down the people smugglers?
Doesn't need SAS to hunt them down, if they were that elusive they'd be out of business. the French can’t find them!"
They seem to be good at moving the refugees on and giving them a bit of a beating when they do so too according to a interview with a refugee currently in France that was in the guardian the other day. |
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By *I TwoCouple
over a year ago
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"It beats me how the French let 1000,s of people with no papers or food sleep in the streets waiting to try and get to the UK illegally shouldn't they at least give them accommodation? "
They give them boats and a map to sucker land |
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"It beats me how the French let 1000,s of people with no papers or food sleep in the streets waiting to try and get to the UK illegally shouldn't they at least give them accommodation? "
From the Frenchs point of view that might encourage them to stay , and very much doubt France wants that
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"It beats me how the French let 1000,s of people with no papers or food sleep in the streets waiting to try and get to the UK illegally shouldn't they at least give them accommodation? From the Frenchs point of view that might encourage them to stay , and very much doubt France wants that "
There would be an outcry if we just let them sleep on the beaches when they got here though thats my point.
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"The only time the French will do anything, is when the people consider turning round to try and stay in France.
The whole time people want to come to england, the french will take a back seat."
ain’t that the truth arnt the french our closest friends lol |
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"It beats me how the French let 1000,s of people with no papers or food sleep in the streets waiting to try and get to the UK illegally shouldn't they at least give them accommodation? From the Frenchs point of view that might encourage them to stay , and very much doubt France wants that There would be an outcry if we just let them sleep on the beaches when they got here though thats my point."
Would there ?
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It beats me how the French let 1000,s of people with no papers or food sleep in the streets waiting to try and get to the UK illegally shouldn't they at least give them accommodation? From the Frenchs point of view that might encourage them to stay , and very much doubt France wants that There would be an outcry if we just let them sleep on the beaches when they got here though thats my point."
Why would we do that? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The only time the French will do anything, is when the people consider turning round to try and stay in France.
The whole time people want to come to england, the french will take a back seat."
Apart from the safety aspect, why should the French stop people who want to get to the UK going there?
Nobody appears to care about stopping the same refugees reaching France!
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The only time the French will do anything, is when the people consider turning round to try and stay in France.
The whole time people want to come to england, the french will take a back seat.
Apart from the safety aspect, why should the French stop people who want to get to the UK going there?
Nobody appears to care about stopping the same refugees reaching France!
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Does anyomr know how many refugees stay in France compared to those that come to the UK? |
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"The only time the French will do anything, is when the people consider turning round to try and stay in France.
The whole time people want to come to england, the french will take a back seat.
Apart from the safety aspect, why should the French stop people who want to get to the UK going there?
Nobody appears to care about stopping the same refugees reaching France!
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That’s a good point , sometime Europe is going to have to grow a pair , potentially there could be 100 of millions wanting a better life in Europe |
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"The only time the French will do anything, is when the people consider turning round to try and stay in France.
The whole time people want to come to england, the french will take a back seat.
Apart from the safety aspect, why should the French stop people who want to get to the UK going there?
Nobody appears to care about stopping the same refugees reaching France!
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because that is a problem for the french |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The only time the French will do anything, is when the people consider turning round to try and stay in France.
The whole time people want to come to england, the french will take a back seat.
Apart from the safety aspect, why should the French stop people who want to get to the UK going there?
Nobody appears to care about stopping the same refugees reaching France!
because that is a problem for the french "
And the people coming here is our problem |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"The only time the French will do anything, is when the people consider turning round to try and stay in France.
The whole time people want to come to england, the french will take a back seat.
Apart from the safety aspect, why should the French stop people who want to get to the UK going there?
Nobody appears to care about stopping the same refugees reaching France!
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Well that's down to your precious eu mate and the Schengen scheme anyone can walk through their boarders once in an eu country. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The only time the French will do anything, is when the people consider turning round to try and stay in France.
The whole time people want to come to england, the french will take a back seat.
Apart from the safety aspect, why should the French stop people who want to get to the UK going there?
Nobody appears to care about stopping the same refugees reaching France!
Well that's down to your precious eu mate and the Schengen scheme anyone can walk through their boarders once in an eu country. "
Sorry mate - I have no idea why boarders have anything to do with this!
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By *exysinnersCouple
over a year ago
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Instead of Priti giving the X amount of millions to France to do Nothing. Why not use it to fly all the so called refugee's back to their country of origin.
If this was to happen enough times they would realise it's a waste of time coming to the UK, just to be flown home again! |
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""This needs to be done at source by tackling the reason that they flee"
We know the countries they're coming from...
Threaten to stop foreign/development aid to their governments and see how quickly they'll put their own troops on their own borders and "stop those poor souls setting out on a dangerous journey", and how efficiently they'll manage it!"
Completely wrong. Withdraw foreign aid then the governments in those countries will have no need to at least appear to appease us. They will just throw their gates open. Less of a drain on their economies.  |
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"Instead of Priti giving the X amount of millions to France to do Nothing. Why not use it to fly all the so called refugee's back to their country of origin.
If this was to happen enough times they would realise it's a waste of time coming to the UK, just to be flown home again!"
Apart from that being against international law, (as laid down in the UN charter that the UK was a key driver of!), that would cost a fortune. Way more than the relatively small amount we pay out in benefits. And no. Being returned wouldn’t put them off. They’d just leave again. |
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"The only time the French will do anything, is when the people consider turning round to try and stay in France.
The whole time people want to come to england, the french will take a back seat.
Apart from the safety aspect, why should the French stop people who want to get to the UK going there?
Nobody appears to care about stopping the same refugees reaching France!
Well that's down to your precious eu mate and the Schengen scheme anyone can walk through their boarders once in an eu country. "
And… you’re wrong. Even if each country they passed through had a fully monitored border, as refugees they can just pass through as long as they have the Id. And the illegals would just hop the fences regardless. |
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"The only time the French will do anything, is when the people consider turning round to try and stay in France.
The whole time people want to come to england, the french will take a back seat.
Apart from the safety aspect, why should the French stop people who want to get to the UK going there?
Nobody appears to care about stopping the same refugees reaching France!
Does anyomr know how many refugees stay in France compared to those that come to the UK?"
122k last year to France
But German is the biggy. Our numbers are rudely in comparison |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The only time the French will do anything, is when the people consider turning round to try and stay in France.
The whole time people want to come to england, the french will take a back seat.
Apart from the safety aspect, why should the French stop people who want to get to the UK going there?
Nobody appears to care about stopping the same refugees reaching France!
Does anyomr know how many refugees stay in France compared to those that come to the UK?
122k last year to France
But German is the biggy. Our numbers are rudely in comparison "
Ah, so only a small percentage are actually trying to get here,  |
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By *drianukMan
over a year ago
Spain, Lancs |
No. But we need to look closely at our treaty obligations. Almost all are economic immigrants not genuine refugees.
If they were genuine refugees why would they first have travelled through France, Germany, Italy etc etc? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"No. But we need to look closely at our treaty obligations. Almost all are economic immigrants not genuine refugees.
If they were genuine refugees why would they first have travelled through France, Germany, Italy etc etc?"
It’s their choice, the vast majority stay in Germany or France, |
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By *drianukMan
over a year ago
Spain, Lancs |
"No. But we need to look closely at our treaty obligations. Almost all are economic immigrants not genuine refugees.
If they were genuine refugees why would they first have travelled through France, Germany, Italy etc etc?
It’s their choice, the vast majority stay in Germany or France, "
But in what sense are they freeing oppression in France? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"No. But we need to look closely at our treaty obligations. Almost all are economic immigrants not genuine refugees.
If they were genuine refugees why would they first have travelled through France, Germany, Italy etc etc?
It’s their choice, the vast majority stay in Germany or France,
But in what sense are they freeing oppression in France?"
They are anti EU, and they want to experience tue sunny uplands and unicorns in the UK? |
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"No. But we need to look closely at our treaty obligations. Almost all are economic immigrants not genuine refugees.
If they were genuine refugees why would they first have travelled through France, Germany, Italy etc etc?"
If they were economic refugees they would go to Germany. They can can claim double there than they can here. Even France pays more than we do. But most of the ones who come here are English speakers. That’s the biggest reason. |
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By *drianukMan
over a year ago
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"No. But we need to look closely at our treaty obligations. Almost all are economic immigrants not genuine refugees.
If they were genuine refugees why would they first have travelled through France, Germany, Italy etc etc?
If they were economic refugees they would go to Germany. They can can claim double there than they can here. Even France pays more than we do. But most of the ones who come here are English speakers. That’s the biggest reason."
So they're economic immigrants then, and not 'refugees'? |
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"No. But we need to look closely at our treaty obligations. Almost all are economic immigrants not genuine refugees.
If they were genuine refugees why would they first have travelled through France, Germany, Italy etc etc?
If they were economic refugees they would go to Germany. They can can claim double there than they can here. Even France pays more than we do. But most of the ones who come here are English speakers. That’s the biggest reason.
So they're economic immigrants then, and not 'refugees'?"
No, they are refugees, the majority stay in the EU, but the unicorn chasers want to come to the UK, can you blame them? |
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By *drianukMan
over a year ago
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"No. But we need to look closely at our treaty obligations. Almost all are economic immigrants not genuine refugees.
If they were genuine refugees why would they first have travelled through France, Germany, Italy etc etc?
If they were economic refugees they would go to Germany. They can can claim double there than they can here. Even France pays more than we do. But most of the ones who come here are English speakers. That’s the biggest reason.
So they're economic immigrants then, and not 'refugees'?
No, they are refugees, the majority stay in the EU, but the unicorn chasers want to come to the UK, can you blame them? "
But I was replying to Glosguy (above) who had claimed they travelled through safe countries like France because they are English speakers.
So if they're not being persecuted, in what sense are they 'refugees'? |
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"No. But we need to look closely at our treaty obligations. Almost all are economic immigrants not genuine refugees.
If they were genuine refugees why would they first have travelled through France, Germany, Italy etc etc?
If they were economic refugees they would go to Germany. They can can claim double there than they can here. Even France pays more than we do. But most of the ones who come here are English speakers. That’s the biggest reason."
double in Germany really double wow |
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"No. But we need to look closely at our treaty obligations. Almost all are economic immigrants not genuine refugees.
If they were genuine refugees why would they first have travelled through France, Germany, Italy etc etc?
If they were economic refugees they would go to Germany. They can can claim double there than they can here. Even France pays more than we do. But most of the ones who come here are English speakers. That’s the biggest reason.double in Germany really double wow "
Yep and Germany take far more asylum seekers than the UK does |
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"No. But we need to look closely at our treaty obligations. Almost all are economic immigrants not genuine refugees.
If they were genuine refugees why would they first have travelled through France, Germany, Italy etc etc?
If they were economic refugees they would go to Germany. They can can claim double there than they can here. Even France pays more than we do. But most of the ones who come here are English speakers. That’s the biggest reason.
So they're economic immigrants then, and not 'refugees'?
No, they are refugees, the majority stay in the EU, but the unicorn chasers want to come to the UK, can you blame them?
But I was replying to Glosguy (above) who had claimed they travelled through safe countries like France because they are English speakers.
So if they're not being persecuted, in what sense are they 'refugees'?"
a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster. |
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"No. But we need to look closely at our treaty obligations. Almost all are economic immigrants not genuine refugees.
If they were genuine refugees why would they first have travelled through France, Germany, Italy etc etc?
If they were economic refugees they would go to Germany. They can can claim double there than they can here. Even France pays more than we do. But most of the ones who come here are English speakers. That’s the biggest reason.
So they're economic immigrants then, and not 'refugees'?
No, they are refugees, the majority stay in the EU, but the unicorn chasers want to come to the UK, can you blame them?
But I was replying to Glosguy (above) who had claimed they travelled through safe countries like France because they are English speakers.
So if they're not being persecuted, in what sense are they 'refugees'?
a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster."
Is entitled to go wherever? |
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"No. But we need to look closely at our treaty obligations. Almost all are economic immigrants not genuine refugees.
If they were genuine refugees why would they first have travelled through France, Germany, Italy etc etc?
If they were economic refugees they would go to Germany. They can can claim double there than they can here. Even France pays more than we do. But most of the ones who come here are English speakers. That’s the biggest reason.
So they're economic immigrants then, and not 'refugees'?
No, they are refugees, the majority stay in the EU, but the unicorn chasers want to come to the UK, can you blame them?
But I was replying to Glosguy (above) who had claimed they travelled through safe countries like France because they are English speakers.
So if they're not being persecuted, in what sense are they 'refugees'?
a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster.
Is entitled to go wherever?"
Yep, wherever they want , most stay in mainland Europe though |
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"No. But we need to look closely at our treaty obligations. Almost all are economic immigrants not genuine refugees.
If they were genuine refugees why would they first have travelled through France, Germany, Italy etc etc?
If they were economic refugees they would go to Germany. They can can claim double there than they can here. Even France pays more than we do. But most of the ones who come here are English speakers. That’s the biggest reason.
So they're economic immigrants then, and not 'refugees'?
No, they are refugees, the majority stay in the EU, but the unicorn chasers want to come to the UK, can you blame them?
But I was replying to Glosguy (above) who had claimed they travelled through safe countries like France because they are English speakers.
So if they're not being persecuted, in what sense are they 'refugees'?
a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster.
Is entitled to go wherever?
Yep, wherever they want , most stay in mainland Europe though "
Even if a country says no entry? |
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"No. But we need to look closely at our treaty obligations. Almost all are economic immigrants not genuine refugees.
If they were genuine refugees why would they first have travelled through France, Germany, Italy etc etc?
If they were economic refugees they would go to Germany. They can can claim double there than they can here. Even France pays more than we do. But most of the ones who come here are English speakers. That’s the biggest reason.
So they're economic immigrants then, and not 'refugees'?
No, they are refugees, the majority stay in the EU, but the unicorn chasers want to come to the UK, can you blame them?
But I was replying to Glosguy (above) who had claimed they travelled through safe countries like France because they are English speakers.
So if they're not being persecuted, in what sense are they 'refugees'?
a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster.
Is entitled to go wherever?
Yep, wherever they want , most stay in mainland Europe though
Even if a country says no entry?"
Which countries are saying ‘no entry’ |
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"No. But we need to look closely at our treaty obligations. Almost all are economic immigrants not genuine refugees.
If they were genuine refugees why would they first have travelled through France, Germany, Italy etc etc?
If they were economic refugees they would go to Germany. They can can claim double there than they can here. Even France pays more than we do. But most of the ones who come here are English speakers. That’s the biggest reason.
So they're economic immigrants then, and not 'refugees'?
No, they are refugees, the majority stay in the EU, but the unicorn chasers want to come to the UK, can you blame them?
But I was replying to Glosguy (above) who had claimed they travelled through safe countries like France because they are English speakers.
So if they're not being persecuted, in what sense are they 'refugees'?
a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster.
Is entitled to go wherever?
Yep, wherever they want , most stay in mainland Europe though
Even if a country says no entry?
Which countries are saying ‘no entry’ "
Poland? |
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"No. But we need to look closely at our treaty obligations. Almost all are economic immigrants not genuine refugees.
If they were genuine refugees why would they first have travelled through France, Germany, Italy etc etc?
If they were economic refugees they would go to Germany. They can can claim double there than they can here. Even France pays more than we do. But most of the ones who come here are English speakers. That’s the biggest reason.
So they're economic immigrants then, and not 'refugees'?
No, they are refugees, the majority stay in the EU, but the unicorn chasers want to come to the UK, can you blame them?
But I was replying to Glosguy (above) who had claimed they travelled through safe countries like France because they are English speakers.
So if they're not being persecuted, in what sense are they 'refugees'?
a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster.
Is entitled to go wherever?
Yep, wherever they want , most stay in mainland Europe though
Even if a country says no entry?
Which countries are saying ‘no entry’
Poland? "
Are they stopping all asylum seekers? Anyway, they are legally entitled to travel to the UK, you will just have to learn to live with it |
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By *drianukMan
over a year ago
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"No. But we need to look closely at our treaty obligations. Almost all are economic immigrants not genuine refugees.
If they were genuine refugees why would they first have travelled through France, Germany, Italy etc etc?
If they were economic refugees they would go to Germany. They can can claim double there than they can here. Even France pays more than we do. But most of the ones who come here are English speakers. That’s the biggest reason.
So they're economic immigrants then, and not 'refugees'?
No, they are refugees, the majority stay in the EU, but the unicorn chasers want to come to the UK, can you blame them?
But I was replying to Glosguy (above) who had claimed they travelled through safe countries like France because they are English speakers.
So if they're not being persecuted, in what sense are they 'refugees'?
a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster.
Is entitled to go wherever?
Yep, wherever they want , most stay in mainland Europe though
Even if a country says no entry?
Which countries are saying ‘no entry’
Poland?
Are they stopping all asylum seekers? Anyway, they are legally entitled to travel to the UK, you will just have to learn to live with it "
But are the Channel entrants 'refugees' or just economic immigrants?
How can they be 'refugees' if they haven't been persecuted in France? |
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"No. But we need to look closely at our treaty obligations. Almost all are economic immigrants not genuine refugees.
If they were genuine refugees why would they first have travelled through France, Germany, Italy etc etc?
If they were economic refugees they would go to Germany. They can can claim double there than they can here. Even France pays more than we do. But most of the ones who come here are English speakers. That’s the biggest reason.
So they're economic immigrants then, and not 'refugees'?
No, they are refugees, the majority stay in the EU, but the unicorn chasers want to come to the UK, can you blame them?
But I was replying to Glosguy (above) who had claimed they travelled through safe countries like France because they are English speakers.
So if they're not being persecuted, in what sense are they 'refugees'?
a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster.
Is entitled to go wherever?
Yep, wherever they want , most stay in mainland Europe though
Even if a country says no entry?
Which countries are saying ‘no entry’
Poland?
Are they stopping all asylum seekers? Anyway, they are legally entitled to travel to the UK, you will just have to learn to live with it "
They appear to be stopping anyone on that border with the backing of the EU as you well know |
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"No. But we need to look closely at our treaty obligations. Almost all are economic immigrants not genuine refugees.
If they were genuine refugees why would they first have travelled through France, Germany, Italy etc etc?
If they were economic refugees they would go to Germany. They can can claim double there than they can here. Even France pays more than we do. But most of the ones who come here are English speakers. That’s the biggest reason.
So they're economic immigrants then, and not 'refugees'?
No, they are refugees, the majority stay in the EU, but the unicorn chasers want to come to the UK, can you blame them?
But I was replying to Glosguy (above) who had claimed they travelled through safe countries like France because they are English speakers.
So if they're not being persecuted, in what sense are they 'refugees'?
a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster.
Is entitled to go wherever?
Yep, wherever they want , most stay in mainland Europe though
Even if a country says no entry?
Which countries are saying ‘no entry’
Poland?
Are they stopping all asylum seekers? Anyway, they are legally entitled to travel to the UK, you will just have to learn to live with it
They appear to be stopping anyone on that border with the backing of the EU as you well know"
We aren’t in the EU, so what is your point ? |
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"No. But we need to look closely at our treaty obligations. Almost all are economic immigrants not genuine refugees.
If they were genuine refugees why would they first have travelled through France, Germany, Italy etc etc?
If they were economic refugees they would go to Germany. They can can claim double there than they can here. Even France pays more than we do. But most of the ones who come here are English speakers. That’s the biggest reason.
So they're economic immigrants then, and not 'refugees'?
No, they are refugees, the majority stay in the EU, but the unicorn chasers want to come to the UK, can you blame them?
But I was replying to Glosguy (above) who had claimed they travelled through safe countries like France because they are English speakers.
So if they're not being persecuted, in what sense are they 'refugees'?
a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster.
Is entitled to go wherever?
Yep, wherever they want , most stay in mainland Europe though
Even if a country says no entry?
Which countries are saying ‘no entry’
Poland?
Are they stopping all asylum seekers? Anyway, they are legally entitled to travel to the UK, you will just have to learn to live with it
But are the Channel entrants 'refugees' or just economic immigrants?
How can they be 'refugees' if they haven't been persecuted in France?"
O dear, they are legally entitled to travel where they want, they want to live in the UK and see the sunlit uplands and unicorns |
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"No. But we need to look closely at our treaty obligations. Almost all are economic immigrants not genuine refugees.
If they were genuine refugees why would they first have travelled through France, Germany, Italy etc etc?
If they were economic refugees they would go to Germany. They can can claim double there than they can here. Even France pays more than we do. But most of the ones who come here are English speakers. That’s the biggest reason.
So they're economic immigrants then, and not 'refugees'?
No, they are refugees, the majority stay in the EU, but the unicorn chasers want to come to the UK, can you blame them?
But I was replying to Glosguy (above) who had claimed they travelled through safe countries like France because they are English speakers.
So if they're not being persecuted, in what sense are they 'refugees'?
a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster.
Is entitled to go wherever?
Yep, wherever they want , most stay in mainland Europe though
Even if a country says no entry?
Which countries are saying ‘no entry’
Poland?
Are they stopping all asylum seekers? Anyway, they are legally entitled to travel to the UK, you will just have to learn to live with it
They appear to be stopping anyone on that border with the backing of the EU as you well know
We aren’t in the EU, so what is your point ? "
Yet you put so much store in the EU |
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By *drianukMan
over a year ago
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"No. But we need to look closely at our treaty obligations. Almost all are economic immigrants not genuine refugees.
If they were genuine refugees why would they first have travelled through France, Germany, Italy etc etc?
If they were economic refugees they would go to Germany. They can can claim double there than they can here. Even France pays more than we do. But most of the ones who come here are English speakers. That’s the biggest reason.
So they're economic immigrants then, and not 'refugees'?
No, they are refugees, the majority stay in the EU, but the unicorn chasers want to come to the UK, can you blame them?
But I was replying to Glosguy (above) who had claimed they travelled through safe countries like France because they are English speakers.
So if they're not being persecuted, in what sense are they 'refugees'?
a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster.
Is entitled to go wherever?
Yep, wherever they want , most stay in mainland Europe though
Even if a country says no entry?
Which countries are saying ‘no entry’
Poland?
Are they stopping all asylum seekers? Anyway, they are legally entitled to travel to the UK, you will just have to learn to live with it
They appear to be stopping anyone on that border with the backing of the EU as you well know
We aren’t in the EU, so what is your point ? "
What does it have to do with being in the EU or not being in?
These are international treaties |
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"No. But we need to look closely at our treaty obligations. Almost all are economic immigrants not genuine refugees.
If they were genuine refugees why would they first have travelled through France, Germany, Italy etc etc?
If they were economic refugees they would go to Germany. They can can claim double there than they can here. Even France pays more than we do. But most of the ones who come here are English speakers. That’s the biggest reason.
So they're economic immigrants then, and not 'refugees'?
No, they are refugees, the majority stay in the EU, but the unicorn chasers want to come to the UK, can you blame them?
But I was replying to Glosguy (above) who had claimed they travelled through safe countries like France because they are English speakers.
So if they're not being persecuted, in what sense are they 'refugees'?
a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster.
Is entitled to go wherever?
Yep, wherever they want , most stay in mainland Europe though
Even if a country says no entry?
Which countries are saying ‘no entry’
Poland?
Are they stopping all asylum seekers? Anyway, they are legally entitled to travel to the UK, you will just have to learn to live with it
They appear to be stopping anyone on that border with the backing of the EU as you well know
We aren’t in the EU, so what is your point ?
Yet you put so much store in the EU"
I voted to remain, the EU is far from perfect, the situation in Poland is horrendous , what has this got to do with British soldiers patrolling French beaches? |
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By *drianukMan
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"No. But we need to look closely at our treaty obligations. Almost all are economic immigrants not genuine refugees.
If they were genuine refugees why would they first have travelled through France, Germany, Italy etc etc?
If they were economic refugees they would go to Germany. They can can claim double there than they can here. Even France pays more than we do. But most of the ones who come here are English speakers. That’s the biggest reason.
So they're economic immigrants then, and not 'refugees'?
No, they are refugees, the majority stay in the EU, but the unicorn chasers want to come to the UK, can you blame them?
But I was replying to Glosguy (above) who had claimed they travelled through safe countries like France because they are English speakers.
So if they're not being persecuted, in what sense are they 'refugees'?
a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster.
Is entitled to go wherever?
Yep, wherever they want , most stay in mainland Europe though
Even if a country says no entry?
Which countries are saying ‘no entry’
Poland?
Are they stopping all asylum seekers? Anyway, they are legally entitled to travel to the UK, you will just have to learn to live with it
They appear to be stopping anyone on that border with the backing of the EU as you well know
We aren’t in the EU, so what is your point ?
Yet you put so much store in the EU
I voted to remain, the EU is far from perfect, the situation in Poland is horrendous , what has this got to do with British soldiers patrolling French beaches? "
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