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"Would she make a good leader, consider her background???" I'm not sure. She's at least as capable as Boris is - though that is a very low bar. Unlike him, she's really had to put in the effort and overcome plenty of obstacles, to get to where she is. Certainly, she's good for connecting the elite to the real world - which is why Starmer couldn't fire her. | |||
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"Would she make a good leader, consider her background???" What, hard worker who worked her way to the top the hard way? Would you prefer an over privileged incompetent idiot like BoZo Johnson? | |||
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"Would she make a good leader, consider her background??? What, hard worker who worked her way to the top the hard way? Would you prefer an over privileged incompetent idiot like BoZo Johnson? " Was thinking more about how other world leaders would conceive her. No education/qualifications , living off benefits/handouts, pregnant at 15. No a good CV | |||
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"she made a very good point during a recent speech in hindsight. shame some far righty internet warrior types trolled her into a retraction by issuing death threats to her." Really don’t understand how people can make death threats to politicians and not be found out. | |||
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"Would she make a good leader, consider her background??? What, hard worker who worked her way to the top the hard way? Would you prefer an over privileged incompetent idiot like BoZo Johnson? Was thinking more about how other world leaders would conceive her. No education/qualifications , living off benefits/handouts, pregnant at 15. No a good CV" Yeah, other far right people who are utterly devoid of empathy could have the same opinions as you. For sure. I mean, she didn't even go to Eton FFS. | |||
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"Would she make a good leader, consider her background??? What, hard worker who worked her way to the top the hard way? Would you prefer an over privileged incompetent idiot like BoZo Johnson? Was thinking more about how other world leaders would conceive her. No education/qualifications , living off benefits/handouts, pregnant at 15. No a good CV" but she overcame her poor start in life by working hard educating herself abd making her way .much better cv in my eyes than any of the Eton mess running the country now .she at least understands and empathizes with those at the bottom who need our help to raise themselves up | |||
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"Would she make a good leader, consider her background??? What, hard worker who worked her way to the top the hard way? Would you prefer an over privileged incompetent idiot like BoZo Johnson? Was thinking more about how other world leaders would conceive her. No education/qualifications , living off benefits/handouts, pregnant at 15. No a good CVbut she overcame her poor start in life by working hard educating herself abd making her way .much better cv in my eyes than any of the Eton mess running the country now .she at least understands and empathizes with those at the bottom who need our help to raise themselves up " Yes she definitely understands the bottom feeders. | |||
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"Yes she definitely understands the bottom feeders." yes, she demonstrated this succinctly when she called them scum ![]() | |||
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"Would she make a good leader, consider her background??? What, hard worker who worked her way to the top the hard way? Would you prefer an over privileged incompetent idiot like BoZo Johnson? Was thinking more about how other world leaders would conceive her. No education/qualifications , living off benefits/handouts, pregnant at 15. No a good CVbut she overcame her poor start in life by working hard educating herself abd making her way .much better cv in my eyes than any of the Eton mess running the country now .she at least understands and empathizes with those at the bottom who need our help to raise themselves up Yes she definitely understands the bottom feeders." Blimey, you really behind this idea that we should all bow down to our betters who are Eton educated. Lift up the boot so you can crawl under it eh! | |||
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"Yes she definitely understands the bottom feeders. yes, she demonstrated this succinctly when she called them scum ![]() Well that’s what I’m talking about. Imagine Angela meeting the queen if with ever got to be PM. Be like waynette going to Buckingham Palace ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Yes she definitely understands the bottom feeders. yes, she demonstrated this succinctly when she called them scum ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() and what would be wrong with that ? Are you that insular and hidebound in your outlook touch your fore lock to yer masters and know your place ? Newflash members of the royal family have married commoners shock horror | |||
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"Yes she definitely understands the bottom feeders. yes, she demonstrated this succinctly when she called them scum ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() So much hate for the working class. What happened to you? | |||
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" Was thinking more about how other world leaders would conceive her. No education/qualifications , living off benefits/handouts, pregnant at 15. No a good CV" Well, if Trump and Reagan were such massive successes... I personally don't think she's great, but her life story isn't the cause of it. | |||
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"Yes she definitely understands the bottom feeders. yes, she demonstrated this succinctly when she called them scum ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Hate a strong word | |||
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"Yes she definitely understands the bottom feeders. yes, she demonstrated this succinctly when she called them scum ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() How would you describe your distain for working class people? | |||
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"Yes she definitely understands the bottom feeders. yes, she demonstrated this succinctly when she called them scum ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() How do you ? Are you so deluded to think the Labour Party supports working classes. | |||
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"Yes she definitely understands the bottom feeders. yes, she demonstrated this succinctly when she called them scum ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I am not the one saying "living off benefits/handouts, pregnant at 15.". I don't have these abhorrent opinions that working class people shouldn't be politicians. Actually I would prefer my elected representatives to have real life experiences, instead of a privileged life and an Eton education. Why do you think anyone who doesn't hate working class people, is a Labour supporter? What a fucking weird thing to say. | |||
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"Yes she definitely understands the bottom feeders. yes, she demonstrated this succinctly when she called them scum ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Never said she shouldn’t be a politician just embarrassing she is one. No need to swear is there! | |||
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"Angela Rayner is a vile woman. She has no capability of seeing things beyond the mindset of a young single mother who worked as a care assistant. The fact she thinks it acceptable to brand her opponents as scum tells it all when it comes to her keeping her emotions in check and being rational. She is one of the people Labour need to get rid of to gain power again." ![]() | |||
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"Would she make a good leader, consider her background??? What, hard worker who worked her way to the top the hard way? Would you prefer an over privileged incompetent idiot like BoZo Johnson? Being sacked repeatedly for living Having multiple kids to multiple mother's Breaking international treaties A worse CV Was thinking more about how other world leaders would conceive her. No education/qualifications , living off benefits/handouts, pregnant at 15. No a good CV" | |||
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"Would she make a good leader, consider her background??? What, hard worker who worked her way to the top the hard way? Would you prefer an over privileged incompetent idiot like BoZo Johnson? Was thinking more about how other world leaders would conceive her. No education/qualifications , living off benefits/handouts, pregnant at 15. No a good CVbut she overcame her poor start in life by working hard educating herself abd making her way .much better cv in my eyes than any of the Eton mess running the country now .she at least understands and empathizes with those at the bottom who need our help to raise themselves up Yes she definitely understands the bottom feeders." Are you saying she's a bottom feeder? | |||
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"Would she make a good leader, consider her background??? What, hard worker who worked her way to the top the hard way? Would you prefer an over privileged incompetent idiot like BoZo Johnson? Was thinking more about how other world leaders would conceive her. No education/qualifications , living off benefits/handouts, pregnant at 15. No a good CVbut she overcame her poor start in life by working hard educating herself abd making her way .much better cv in my eyes than any of the Eton mess running the country now .she at least understands and empathizes with those at the bottom who need our help to raise themselves up Yes she definitely understands the bottom feeders. Are you saying she's a bottom feeder?" Isn't everyone not privately education at Eton a "bottom feeder"? Imagine being poor, oh the indignity. ![]() | |||
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"Would she make a good leader, consider her background??? What, hard worker who worked her way to the top the hard way? Would you prefer an over privileged incompetent idiot like BoZo Johnson? Was thinking more about how other world leaders would conceive her. No education/qualifications , living off benefits/handouts, pregnant at 15. No a good CVbut she overcame her poor start in life by working hard educating herself abd making her way .much better cv in my eyes than any of the Eton mess running the country now .she at least understands and empathizes with those at the bottom who need our help to raise themselves up Yes she definitely understands the bottom feeders. Are you saying she's a bottom feeder? Isn't everyone not privately education at Eton a "bottom feeder"? Imagine being poor, oh the indignity. ![]() Tbf, certain people know their place, they like to bow down to the upper classes who they see as their superiors | |||
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"Would she make a good leader, consider her background??? What, hard worker who worked her way to the top the hard way? Would you prefer an over privileged incompetent idiot like BoZo Johnson? Was thinking more about how other world leaders would conceive her. No education/qualifications , living off benefits/handouts, pregnant at 15. No a good CVbut she overcame her poor start in life by working hard educating herself abd making her way .much better cv in my eyes than any of the Eton mess running the country now .she at least understands and empathizes with those at the bottom who need our help to raise themselves up Yes she definitely understands the bottom feeders. Are you saying she's a bottom feeder? Isn't everyone not privately education at Eton a "bottom feeder"? Imagine being poor, oh the indignity. ![]() True. But we're now at a point where people who don't want to bow down to the aristocracy are ridiculed. | |||
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"Angela Rayner is a vile woman. She has no capability of seeing things beyond the mindset of a young single mother who worked as a care assistant. The fact she thinks it acceptable to brand her opponents as scum tells it all when it comes to her keeping her emotions in check and being rational. She is one of the people Labour need to get rid of to gain power again." hmmm " tank top wearing bum boys " & comparing half a religioun to letter boxes is ok from a leader eh ? Something he has never apolagised for you carry on koq towing to your masters oh btwyou will never be one of them just usefull idiots keeping them in power whilst they shit on you at every opertunity | |||
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"Would she make a good leader, consider her background??? What, hard worker who worked her way to the top the hard way? Would you prefer an over privileged incompetent idiot like BoZo Johnson? Was thinking more about how other world leaders would conceive her. No education/qualifications , living off benefits/handouts, pregnant at 15. No a good CVbut she overcame her poor start in life by working hard educating herself abd making her way .much better cv in my eyes than any of the Eton mess running the country now .she at least understands and empathizes with those at the bottom who need our help to raise themselves up Yes she definitely understands the bottom feeders. Are you saying she's a bottom feeder? Isn't everyone not privately education at Eton a "bottom feeder"? Imagine being poor, oh the indignity. ![]() It looks that way, they obviously feel inferior to a person with a posh accent | |||
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"Would she make a good leader, consider her background??? What, hard worker who worked her way to the top the hard way? Would you prefer an over privileged incompetent idiot like BoZo Johnson? Was thinking more about how other world leaders would conceive her. No education/qualifications , living off benefits/handouts, pregnant at 15. No a good CVbut she overcame her poor start in life by working hard educating herself abd making her way .much better cv in my eyes than any of the Eton mess running the country now .she at least understands and empathizes with those at the bottom who need our help to raise themselves up Yes she definitely understands the bottom feeders. Are you saying she's a bottom feeder? Isn't everyone not privately education at Eton a "bottom feeder"? Imagine being poor, oh the indignity. ![]() Who’s the “they” please do tell us ![]() | |||
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"Would she make a good leader, consider her background??? What, hard worker who worked her way to the top the hard way? Would you prefer an over privileged incompetent idiot like BoZo Johnson? Was thinking more about how other world leaders would conceive her. No education/qualifications , living off benefits/handouts, pregnant at 15. No a good CVbut she overcame her poor start in life by working hard educating herself abd making her way .much better cv in my eyes than any of the Eton mess running the country now .she at least understands and empathizes with those at the bottom who need our help to raise themselves up Yes she definitely understands the bottom feeders. Are you saying she's a bottom feeder? Isn't everyone not privately education at Eton a "bottom feeder"? Imagine being poor, oh the indignity. ![]() ![]() People who want to be ruled over by self serving Eton graduates and who think that real life experience in a politician is something to be ridiculed. | |||
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"Would she make a good leader, consider her background??? What, hard worker who worked her way to the top the hard way? Would you prefer an over privileged incompetent idiot like BoZo Johnson? Was thinking more about how other world leaders would conceive her. No education/qualifications , living off benefits/handouts, pregnant at 15. No a good CVbut she overcame her poor start in life by working hard educating herself abd making her way .much better cv in my eyes than any of the Eton mess running the country now .she at least understands and empathizes with those at the bottom who need our help to raise themselves up Yes she definitely understands the bottom feeders. Are you saying she's a bottom feeder? Isn't everyone not privately education at Eton a "bottom feeder"? Imagine being poor, oh the indignity. ![]() ![]() Thanks for clearing that one up cheers ![]() | |||
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"Would she make a good leader, consider her background??? What, hard worker who worked her way to the top the hard way? Would you prefer an over privileged incompetent idiot like BoZo Johnson? Was thinking more about how other world leaders would conceive her. No education/qualifications , living off benefits/handouts, pregnant at 15. No a good CVbut she overcame her poor start in life by working hard educating herself abd making her way .much better cv in my eyes than any of the Eton mess running the country now .she at least understands and empathizes with those at the bottom who need our help to raise themselves up Yes she definitely understands the bottom feeders. Are you saying she's a bottom feeder? Isn't everyone not privately education at Eton a "bottom feeder"? Imagine being poor, oh the indignity. ![]() ![]() The insecure who thinks that a person who sounds posher and is richer is better than they are , | |||
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"she is the female equivalent of John Prescott ." That is a compliment, she will be pleased with that | |||
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"Angela Rayner is a vile woman. She has no capability of seeing things beyond the mindset of a young single mother who worked as a care assistant. The fact she thinks it acceptable to brand her opponents as scum tells it all when it comes to her keeping her emotions in check and being rational. She is one of the people Labour need to get rid of to gain power again." Couldn't have put it better myself. ![]() | |||
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"she is the female equivalent of John Prescott ." Now thats unfair ! John much more attractive ![]() | |||
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"Angela Rayner is a vile woman. She has no capability of seeing things beyond the mindset of a young single mother who worked as a care assistant. The fact she thinks it acceptable to brand her opponents as scum tells it all when it comes to her keeping her emotions in check and being rational. She is one of the people Labour need to get rid of to gain power again." She may be highly capable but she's a hypocrite who supposedly decries personal abuse and negative stereotyping yet routinely relies on it when attacking her opponents. | |||
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"Would she make a good leader, consider her background??? I'm not sure. She's at least as capable as Boris is - though that is a very low bar. Unlike him, she's really had to put in the effort and overcome plenty of obstacles, to get to where she is. Certainly, she's good for connecting the elite to the real world - which is why Starmer couldn't fire her." labour would stand atleast a small chance with her instead of starmer | |||
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"Would she make a good leader, consider her background??? I'm not sure. She's at least as capable as Boris is - though that is a very low bar. Unlike him, she's really had to put in the effort and overcome plenty of obstacles, to get to where she is. Certainly, she's good for connecting the elite to the real world - which is why Starmer couldn't fire her.labour would stand atleast a small chance with her instead of starmer " I think her and Starmer are a good combination, | |||
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"Would she make a good leader, consider her background??? I'm not sure. She's at least as capable as Boris is - though that is a very low bar. Unlike him, she's really had to put in the effort and overcome plenty of obstacles, to get to where she is. Certainly, she's good for connecting the elite to the real world - which is why Starmer couldn't fire her.labour would stand atleast a small chance with her instead of starmer I think her and Starmer are a good combination, " mate starter as just been up to Hartlepool going of all the people on the fone ins he’s toxic labour are doomed under him in my humble opinion | |||
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"Would she make a good leader, consider her background??? I'm not sure. She's at least as capable as Boris is - though that is a very low bar. Unlike him, she's really had to put in the effort and overcome plenty of obstacles, to get to where she is. Certainly, she's good for connecting the elite to the real world - which is why Starmer couldn't fire her.labour would stand atleast a small chance with her instead of starmer I think her and Starmer are a good combination, mate starter as just been up to Hartlepool going of all the people on the fone ins he’s toxic labour are doomed under him in my humble opinion " Why? Is he worse than Boris ? | |||
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"Would she make a good leader, consider her background??? I'm not sure. She's at least as capable as Boris is - though that is a very low bar. Unlike him, she's really had to put in the effort and overcome plenty of obstacles, to get to where she is. Certainly, she's good for connecting the elite to the real world - which is why Starmer couldn't fire her.labour would stand atleast a small chance with her instead of starmer I think her and Starmer are a good combination, mate starter as just been up to Hartlepool going of all the people on the fone ins he’s toxic labour are doomed under him in my humble opinion Why? Is he worse than Boris ? " to the people of Hartlepool I’d say so mate going by the reaction | |||
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"Would she make a good leader, consider her background??? I'm not sure. She's at least as capable as Boris is - though that is a very low bar. Unlike him, she's really had to put in the effort and overcome plenty of obstacles, to get to where she is. Certainly, she's good for connecting the elite to the real world - which is why Starmer couldn't fire her.labour would stand atleast a small chance with her instead of starmer I think her and Starmer are a good combination, mate starter as just been up to Hartlepool going of all the people on the fone ins he’s toxic labour are doomed under him in my humble opinion Why? Is he worse than Boris ? to the people of Hartlepool I’d say so mate going by the reaction " To be fair, Hartlepool is a "bit odd" politically. Do you recall the ukip issue there? | |||
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"Would she make a good leader, consider her background??? I'm not sure. She's at least as capable as Boris is - though that is a very low bar. Unlike him, she's really had to put in the effort and overcome plenty of obstacles, to get to where she is. Certainly, she's good for connecting the elite to the real world - which is why Starmer couldn't fire her.labour would stand atleast a small chance with her instead of starmer I think her and Starmer are a good combination, mate starter as just been up to Hartlepool going of all the people on the fone ins he’s toxic labour are doomed under him in my humble opinion Why? Is he worse than Boris ? to the people of Hartlepool I’d say so mate going by the reaction To be fair, Hartlepool is a "bit odd" politically. Do you recall the ukip issue there?" stuff like this doesn’t really help UKIP got 4 million votes so to infer that many are odd is silly people vote for lots of different reasons doesn’t make them odd just because there reasons are different to yours | |||
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"Would she make a good leader, consider her background??? I'm not sure. She's at least as capable as Boris is - though that is a very low bar. Unlike him, she's really had to put in the effort and overcome plenty of obstacles, to get to where she is. Certainly, she's good for connecting the elite to the real world - which is why Starmer couldn't fire her.labour would stand atleast a small chance with her instead of starmer I think her and Starmer are a good combination, mate starter as just been up to Hartlepool going of all the people on the fone ins he’s toxic labour are doomed under him in my humble opinion Why? Is he worse than Boris ? to the people of Hartlepool I’d say so mate going by the reaction To be fair, Hartlepool is a "bit odd" politically. Do you recall the ukip issue there?stuff like this doesn’t really help UKIP got 4 million votes so to infer that many are odd is silly people vote for lots of different reasons doesn’t make them odd just because there reasons are different to yours " I didn't infer many were odd. I was talking very specifically about Hartlepool. Read the post. | |||
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"Would she make a good leader, consider her background??? I'm not sure. She's at least as capable as Boris is - though that is a very low bar. Unlike him, she's really had to put in the effort and overcome plenty of obstacles, to get to where she is. Certainly, she's good for connecting the elite to the real world - which is why Starmer couldn't fire her.labour would stand atleast a small chance with her instead of starmer I think her and Starmer are a good combination, mate starter as just been up to Hartlepool going of all the people on the fone ins he’s toxic labour are doomed under him in my humble opinion Why? Is he worse than Boris ? to the people of Hartlepool I’d say so mate going by the reaction To be fair, Hartlepool is a "bit odd" politically. Do you recall the ukip issue there?" what are you saying? hartlepool is a bit odd politically... the ukip issue? Clarify what you mean please. what issue? they voted away you didnt like? | |||
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"Would she make a good leader, consider her background??? I'm not sure. She's at least as capable as Boris is - though that is a very low bar. Unlike him, she's really had to put in the effort and overcome plenty of obstacles, to get to where she is. Certainly, she's good for connecting the elite to the real world - which is why Starmer couldn't fire her.labour would stand atleast a small chance with her instead of starmer I think her and Starmer are a good combination, mate starter as just been up to Hartlepool going of all the people on the fone ins he’s toxic labour are doomed under him in my humble opinion Why? Is he worse than Boris ? to the people of Hartlepool I’d say so mate going by the reaction To be fair, Hartlepool is a "bit odd" politically. Do you recall the ukip issue there? what are you saying? hartlepool is a bit odd politically... the ukip issue? Clarify what you mean please. what issue? they voted away you didnt like?" Yes that’s exactly what he’s saying. If someone disagree with their views they have a problem. And you wonder why the people didn’t vote for them ![]() | |||
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"Would she make a good leader, consider her background??? I'm not sure. She's at least as capable as Boris is - though that is a very low bar. Unlike him, she's really had to put in the effort and overcome plenty of obstacles, to get to where she is. Certainly, she's good for connecting the elite to the real world - which is why Starmer couldn't fire her.labour would stand atleast a small chance with her instead of starmer I think her and Starmer are a good combination, mate starter as just been up to Hartlepool going of all the people on the fone ins he’s toxic labour are doomed under him in my humble opinion Why? Is he worse than Boris ? to the people of Hartlepool I’d say so mate going by the reaction To be fair, Hartlepool is a "bit odd" politically. Do you recall the ukip issue there? what are you saying? hartlepool is a bit odd politically... the ukip issue? Clarify what you mean please. what issue? they voted away you didnt like?" Hartlepool has a very very strong streak of "won't play well with others", they don't like cooperation with other local authorities, the council members can be likened to a bag of cats in a sack. And the people of the headland don't see themselves as being part of Hartlepool. As I said, politically a bit odd ![]() | |||
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"Would she make a good leader, consider her background??? I'm not sure. She's at least as capable as Boris is - though that is a very low bar. Unlike him, she's really had to put in the effort and overcome plenty of obstacles, to get to where she is. Certainly, she's good for connecting the elite to the real world - which is why Starmer couldn't fire her.labour would stand atleast a small chance with her instead of starmer I think her and Starmer are a good combination, mate starter as just been up to Hartlepool going of all the people on the fone ins he’s toxic labour are doomed under him in my humble opinion Why? Is he worse than Boris ? to the people of Hartlepool I’d say so mate going by the reaction To be fair, Hartlepool is a "bit odd" politically. Do you recall the ukip issue there? what are you saying? hartlepool is a bit odd politically... the ukip issue? Clarify what you mean please. what issue? they voted away you didnt like? Yes that’s exactly what he’s saying. If someone disagree with their views they have a problem. And you wonder why the people didn’t vote for them ![]() That's not what I'm saying. Try again. | |||
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"Would she make a good leader, consider her background??? I'm not sure. She's at least as capable as Boris is - though that is a very low bar. Unlike him, she's really had to put in the effort and overcome plenty of obstacles, to get to where she is. Certainly, she's good for connecting the elite to the real world - which is why Starmer couldn't fire her.labour would stand atleast a small chance with her instead of starmer I think her and Starmer are a good combination, mate starter as just been up to Hartlepool going of all the people on the fone ins he’s toxic labour are doomed under him in my humble opinion Why? Is he worse than Boris ? to the people of Hartlepool I’d say so mate going by the reaction " Fair enough, Kier needs to up his game then, or at least start telling lies like Boris | |||
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"Would she make a good leader, consider her background??? I'm not sure. She's at least as capable as Boris is - though that is a very low bar. Unlike him, she's really had to put in the effort and overcome plenty of obstacles, to get to where she is. Certainly, she's good for connecting the elite to the real world - which is why Starmer couldn't fire her.labour would stand atleast a small chance with her instead of starmer I think her and Starmer are a good combination, mate starter as just been up to Hartlepool going of all the people on the fone ins he’s toxic labour are doomed under him in my humble opinion Why? Is he worse than Boris ? to the people of Hartlepool I’d say so mate going by the reaction To be fair, Hartlepool is a "bit odd" politically. Do you recall the ukip issue there? what are you saying? hartlepool is a bit odd politically... the ukip issue? Clarify what you mean please. what issue? they voted away you didnt like? Hartlepool has a very very strong streak of "won't play well with others", they don't like cooperation with other local authorities, the council members can be likened to a bag of cats in a sack. And the people of the headland don't see themselves as being part of Hartlepool. As I said, politically a bit odd ![]() Unlike Middlesbrough council now that’s a beacon light as far a councillors working together?? | |||
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"Would she make a good leader, consider her background??? I'm not sure. She's at least as capable as Boris is - though that is a very low bar. Unlike him, she's really had to put in the effort and overcome plenty of obstacles, to get to where she is. Certainly, she's good for connecting the elite to the real world - which is why Starmer couldn't fire her.labour would stand atleast a small chance with her instead of starmer I think her and Starmer are a good combination, mate starter as just been up to Hartlepool going of all the people on the fone ins he’s toxic labour are doomed under him in my humble opinion Why? Is he worse than Boris ? to the people of Hartlepool I’d say so mate going by the reaction To be fair, Hartlepool is a "bit odd" politically. Do you recall the ukip issue there? what are you saying? hartlepool is a bit odd politically... the ukip issue? Clarify what you mean please. what issue? they voted away you didnt like? Hartlepool has a very very strong streak of "won't play well with others", they don't like cooperation with other local authorities, the council members can be likened to a bag of cats in a sack. And the people of the headland don't see themselves as being part of Hartlepool. As I said, politically a bit odd ![]() The discussion was about Hartlepool. | |||
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"Would she make a good leader, consider her background??? I'm not sure. She's at least as capable as Boris is - though that is a very low bar. Unlike him, she's really had to put in the effort and overcome plenty of obstacles, to get to where she is. Certainly, she's good for connecting the elite to the real world - which is why Starmer couldn't fire her.labour would stand atleast a small chance with her instead of starmer I think her and Starmer are a good combination, mate starter as just been up to Hartlepool going of all the people on the fone ins he’s toxic labour are doomed under him in my humble opinion Why? Is he worse than Boris ? to the people of Hartlepool I’d say so mate going by the reaction To be fair, Hartlepool is a "bit odd" politically. Do you recall the ukip issue there? what are you saying? hartlepool is a bit odd politically... the ukip issue? Clarify what you mean please. what issue? they voted away you didnt like? Hartlepool has a very very strong streak of "won't play well with others", they don't like cooperation with other local authorities, the council members can be likened to a bag of cats in a sack. And the people of the headland don't see themselves as being part of Hartlepool. As I said, politically a bit odd ![]() The discussion is about whether Angela Rayner would make a good leader. You tried to imply the people of Hartlepool are odd because they chose to vote for another political party then the one you vote for. | |||
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"Would she make a good leader, consider her background??? I'm not sure. She's at least as capable as Boris is - though that is a very low bar. Unlike him, she's really had to put in the effort and overcome plenty of obstacles, to get to where she is. Certainly, she's good for connecting the elite to the real world - which is why Starmer couldn't fire her.labour would stand atleast a small chance with her instead of starmer I think her and Starmer are a good combination, mate starter as just been up to Hartlepool going of all the people on the fone ins he’s toxic labour are doomed under him in my humble opinion Why? Is he worse than Boris ? to the people of Hartlepool I’d say so mate going by the reaction To be fair, Hartlepool is a "bit odd" politically. Do you recall the ukip issue there? what are you saying? hartlepool is a bit odd politically... the ukip issue? Clarify what you mean please. what issue? they voted away you didnt like? Hartlepool has a very very strong streak of "won't play well with others", they don't like cooperation with other local authorities, the council members can be likened to a bag of cats in a sack. And the people of the headland don't see themselves as being part of Hartlepool. As I said, politically a bit odd ![]() No I did not. I pointed this out earlier. Try again. | |||
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"To be fair, Hartlepool is a "bit odd" politically Your words, you do realise its the people of Hartlepool that vote? Or is your problem the a tory MP was elected in Hartlepool. OMG what are the servants of Hartlepool thinking they’re working class they should vote for the same shite they also voted for." Thank you for accepting I didn't say what you accused me of. I want someone to be an MP that is interested in the town, not someone who lives 50 miles away and has no understanding of the issues his or her constitutents face. It would also help if she wasn't a councillor for an area 50 or so miles away (distances approximate). Don't you? | |||
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"Would she make a good leader, consider her background??? I'm not sure. She's at least as capable as Boris is - though that is a very low bar. Unlike him, she's really had to put in the effort and overcome plenty of obstacles, to get to where she is. Certainly, she's good for connecting the elite to the real world - which is why Starmer couldn't fire her.labour would stand atleast a small chance with her instead of starmer I think her and Starmer are a good combination, mate starter as just been up to Hartlepool going of all the people on the fone ins he’s toxic labour are doomed under him in my humble opinion Why? Is he worse than Boris ? to the people of Hartlepool I’d say so mate going by the reaction To be fair, Hartlepool is a "bit odd" politically. Do you recall the ukip issue there? what are you saying? hartlepool is a bit odd politically... the ukip issue? Clarify what you mean please. what issue? they voted away you didnt like? Hartlepool has a very very strong streak of "won't play well with others", they don't like cooperation with other local authorities, the council members can be likened to a bag of cats in a sack. And the people of the headland don't see themselves as being part of Hartlepool. As I said, politically a bit odd ![]() lol I guess Middlesbrough must be a bit odd then | |||
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"Would she make a good leader, consider her background??? I'm not sure. She's at least as capable as Boris is - though that is a very low bar. Unlike him, she's really had to put in the effort and overcome plenty of obstacles, to get to where she is. Certainly, she's good for connecting the elite to the real world - which is why Starmer couldn't fire her.labour would stand atleast a small chance with her instead of starmer I think her and Starmer are a good combination, mate starter as just been up to Hartlepool going of all the people on the fone ins he’s toxic labour are doomed under him in my humble opinion Why? Is he worse than Boris ? to the people of Hartlepool I’d say so mate going by the reaction To be fair, Hartlepool is a "bit odd" politically. Do you recall the ukip issue there? what are you saying? hartlepool is a bit odd politically... the ukip issue? Clarify what you mean please. what issue? they voted away you didnt like? Hartlepool has a very very strong streak of "won't play well with others", they don't like cooperation with other local authorities, the council members can be likened to a bag of cats in a sack. And the people of the headland don't see themselves as being part of Hartlepool. As I said, politically a bit odd ![]() Its twinned helmand province. | |||
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"Would she make a good leader, consider her background??? I'm not sure. She's at least as capable as Boris is - though that is a very low bar. Unlike him, she's really had to put in the effort and overcome plenty of obstacles, to get to where she is. Certainly, she's good for connecting the elite to the real world - which is why Starmer couldn't fire her.labour would stand atleast a small chance with her instead of starmer I think her and Starmer are a good combination, mate starter as just been up to Hartlepool going of all the people on the fone ins he’s toxic labour are doomed under him in my humble opinion Why? Is he worse than Boris ? to the people of Hartlepool I’d say so mate going by the reaction To be fair, Hartlepool is a "bit odd" politically. Do you recall the ukip issue there? what are you saying? hartlepool is a bit odd politically... the ukip issue? Clarify what you mean please. what issue? they voted away you didnt like? Hartlepool has a very very strong streak of "won't play well with others", they don't like cooperation with other local authorities, the council members can be likened to a bag of cats in a sack. And the people of the headland don't see themselves as being part of Hartlepool. As I said, politically a bit odd ![]() if you say its odd, you have to compare to others to see why YOU think its odd... perhaps hartlepool has free thinking individuals...? | |||
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"Would she make a good leader, consider her background??? I'm not sure. She's at least as capable as Boris is - though that is a very low bar. Unlike him, she's really had to put in the effort and overcome plenty of obstacles, to get to where she is. Certainly, she's good for connecting the elite to the real world - which is why Starmer couldn't fire her.labour would stand atleast a small chance with her instead of starmer I think her and Starmer are a good combination, mate starter as just been up to Hartlepool going of all the people on the fone ins he’s toxic labour are doomed under him in my humble opinion Why? Is he worse than Boris ? to the people of Hartlepool I’d say so mate going by the reaction To be fair, Hartlepool is a "bit odd" politically. Do you recall the ukip issue there? what are you saying? hartlepool is a bit odd politically... the ukip issue? Clarify what you mean please. what issue? they voted away you didnt like? Hartlepool has a very very strong streak of "won't play well with others", they don't like cooperation with other local authorities, the council members can be likened to a bag of cats in a sack. And the people of the headland don't see themselves as being part of Hartlepool. As I said, politically a bit odd ![]() It's odd because the local authority is at war with itself and refuses to cooperate with other local authorities even though it could save them money and improve local services. | |||
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"Would she make a good leader, consider her background??? I'm not sure. She's at least as capable as Boris is - though that is a very low bar. Unlike him, she's really had to put in the effort and overcome plenty of obstacles, to get to where she is. Certainly, she's good for connecting the elite to the real world - which is why Starmer couldn't fire her.labour would stand atleast a small chance with her instead of starmer I think her and Starmer are a good combination, mate starter as just been up to Hartlepool going of all the people on the fone ins he’s toxic labour are doomed under him in my humble opinion Why? Is he worse than Boris ? to the people of Hartlepool I’d say so mate going by the reaction To be fair, Hartlepool is a "bit odd" politically. Do you recall the ukip issue there? what are you saying? hartlepool is a bit odd politically... the ukip issue? Clarify what you mean please. what issue? they voted away you didnt like? Hartlepool has a very very strong streak of "won't play well with others", they don't like cooperation with other local authorities, the council members can be likened to a bag of cats in a sack. And the people of the headland don't see themselves as being part of Hartlepool. As I said, politically a bit odd ![]() like Middlesbrough then been at war for years | |||
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"Would she make a good leader, consider her background??? I'm not sure. She's at least as capable as Boris is - though that is a very low bar. Unlike him, she's really had to put in the effort and overcome plenty of obstacles, to get to where she is. Certainly, she's good for connecting the elite to the real world - which is why Starmer couldn't fire her.labour would stand atleast a small chance with her instead of starmer I think her and Starmer are a good combination, mate starter as just been up to Hartlepool going of all the people on the fone ins he’s toxic labour are doomed under him in my humble opinion Why? Is he worse than Boris ? to the people of Hartlepool I’d say so mate going by the reaction To be fair, Hartlepool is a "bit odd" politically. Do you recall the ukip issue there? what are you saying? hartlepool is a bit odd politically... the ukip issue? Clarify what you mean please. what issue? they voted away you didnt like? Hartlepool has a very very strong streak of "won't play well with others", they don't like cooperation with other local authorities, the council members can be likened to a bag of cats in a sack. And the people of the headland don't see themselves as being part of Hartlepool. As I said, politically a bit odd ![]() Hartlepool hung the monkey... | |||
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"Couldnt see her being leader,everytime i see and hear her first thought in my head is ginger vikki pollard" Yes but no but, yes but no but. | |||
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"Would she make a good leader, consider her background??? I'm not sure. She's at least as capable as Boris is - though that is a very low bar. Unlike him, she's really had to put in the effort and overcome plenty of obstacles, to get to where she is. Certainly, she's good for connecting the elite to the real world - which is why Starmer couldn't fire her.labour would stand atleast a small chance with her instead of starmer I think her and Starmer are a good combination, mate starter as just been up to Hartlepool going of all the people on the fone ins he’s toxic labour are doomed under him in my humble opinion Why? Is he worse than Boris ? to the people of Hartlepool I’d say so mate going by the reaction To be fair, Hartlepool is a "bit odd" politically. Do you recall the ukip issue there? what are you saying? hartlepool is a bit odd politically... the ukip issue? Clarify what you mean please. what issue? they voted away you didnt like? Hartlepool has a very very strong streak of "won't play well with others", they don't like cooperation with other local authorities, the council members can be likened to a bag of cats in a sack. And the people of the headland don't see themselves as being part of Hartlepool. As I said, politically a bit odd ![]() nothing odd there then! typical infighting! | |||
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"The fact she thinks it acceptable to brand her opponents as scum tells it all" an honest politician ... how rare ![]() | |||
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"The fact she thinks it acceptable to brand her opponents as scum tells it all an honest politician ... how rare ![]() Not very professional though is it. | |||
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"The fact she thinks it acceptable to brand her opponents as scum tells it all an honest politician ... how rare ![]() On one side. We have an MP who is from a poor family, used the word "scum" and didn't even go to Eton. On the other side we have a current government who tried to change the rules so they wouldn't face any consequences for ripping off the public to the tune of 100s of millions of pounds. Lining their own pockets, handing their mates multi million pound PPE contracts. Using the pandemic for "disaster capitalism" while 142,000 people died. ![]() | |||
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"Not very professional though is it." i disagree ... despite it being crystal clear that supporters of the tory government prefer them to be liars, i believe honesty is both highly professional and preferable. ![]() | |||
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"Not very professional though is it. i disagree ... despite it being crystal clear that supporters of the tory government prefer them to be liars, i believe honesty is both highly professional and preferable. ![]() Tell that to the Rotherham children that the then Labour Party left to be groomed and rxped. | |||
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"Not very professional though is it. i disagree ... despite it being crystal clear that supporters of the tory government prefer them to be liars, i believe honesty is both highly professional and preferable. ![]() They ‘let them’ ? Sounds like a bold claim, did the Tory party ‘let ‘ Jimmy Saville abuse children for decades | |||
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"Not very professional though is it. i disagree ... despite it being crystal clear that supporters of the tory government prefer them to be liars, i believe honesty is both highly professional and preferable. ![]() For someone that not a Labour Party supporters you jump to their defence ever time. | |||
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"Not very professional though is it. i disagree ... despite it being crystal clear that supporters of the tory government prefer them to be liars, i believe honesty is both highly professional and preferable. ![]() I am a Labour supporter, I am trying to work out when they ‘let’ these children be abused | |||
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"Following the shocking revelations on BBC Radio 4 by former Chief Crown Prosecutor Mr Nazir Afzal, when he revealed a "Government Cover-Up” started 11 years ago in 2008 when the Labour Government under Prime Minister Gordon Brown, and Home Secretary Jacqui Smith, sent-out a circular to all the British police forces’; stating that “...as far as these young girls who are being exploited in towns and cities, we believe they have made an informed choice about their sexual behavior and therefore it is not for you police officers to get involved in.” – is the reason this a Public Inquiry is now being called for." What are the results of the public inquiry? | |||
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"You really should research the political party you support. Next you’ll tell people the Labour Party is NOT a racist party. Do you want some fact/ figure on that as well???" No, let’s stick to the claims you have made on here, what are the results of the public inquiry? | |||
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"You really should research the political party you support. Next you’ll tell people the Labour Party is NOT a racist party. Do you want some fact/ figure on that as well???" Desperate attempt to divert attention. | |||
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"You really should research the political party you support. Next you’ll tell people the Labour Party is NOT a racist party. Do you want some fact/ figure on that as well??? No, let’s stick to the claims you have made on here, what are the results of the public inquiry? " Do some research of your own, you nonce/racist supporters! Its all out there! | |||
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"You really should research the political party you support. Next you’ll tell people the Labour Party is NOT a racist party. Do you want some fact/ figure on that as well??? Desperate attempt to divert attention." Indeed, ![]() | |||
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"You really should research the political party you support. Next you’ll tell people the Labour Party is NOT a racist party. Do you want some fact/ figure on that as well??? No, let’s stick to the claims you have made on here, what are the results of the public inquiry? Do some research of your own, you nonce/racist supporters! Its all out there!" Do you have the results of the public inquiry? | |||
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"You really should research the political party you support. Next you’ll tell people the Labour Party is NOT a racist party. Do you want some fact/ figure on that as well??? No, let’s stick to the claims you have made on here, what are the results of the public inquiry? Do some research of your own, you nonce/racist supporters! Its all out there!" This place gets weirder by the minute. I miss the posts claiming "Corbyn" was one of the options on the EU membership referendum. Or the guy who thought that science was all faked. | |||
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"You really should research the political party you support. Next you’ll tell people the Labour Party is NOT a racist party. Do you want some fact/ figure on that as well??? No, let’s stick to the claims you have made on here, what are the results of the public inquiry? Do some research of your own, you nonce/racist supporters! Its all out there! This place gets weirder by the minute. I miss the posts claiming "Corbyn" was one of the options on the EU membership referendum. Or the guy who thought that science was all faked. " Tbh, when you have Corbyn living in your head tent free he becomes on obsession , he will be blaming him for COVID ![]() | |||
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"You really should research the political party you support. Next you’ll tell people the Labour Party is NOT a racist party. Do you want some fact/ figure on that as well??? No, let’s stick to the claims you have made on here, what are the results of the public inquiry? Do some research of your own, you nonce/racist supporters! Its all out there! This place gets weirder by the minute. I miss the posts claiming "Corbyn" was one of the options on the EU membership referendum. Or the guy who thought that science was all faked. Tbh, when you have Corbyn living in your head tent free he becomes on obsession , he will be blaming him for COVID ![]() Rent ![]() | |||
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"You really should research the political party you support. Next you’ll tell people the Labour Party is NOT a racist party. Do you want some fact/ figure on that as well??? No, let’s stick to the claims you have made on here, what are the results of the public inquiry? Do some research of your own, you nonce/racist supporters! Its all out there! This place gets weirder by the minute. I miss the posts claiming "Corbyn" was one of the options on the EU membership referendum. Or the guy who thought that science was all faked. Tbh, when you have Corbyn living in your head tent free he becomes on obsession , he will be blaming him for COVID ![]() ![]() If you left it that Corbyn was living in a tent. That would not be the weirdest claim in this thread. | |||
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"You really should research the political party you support. Next you’ll tell people the Labour Party is NOT a racist party. Do you want some fact/ figure on that as well??? No, let’s stick to the claims you have made on here, what are the results of the public inquiry? Do some research of your own, you nonce/racist supporters! Its all out there! This place gets weirder by the minute. I miss the posts claiming "Corbyn" was one of the options on the EU membership referendum. Or the guy who thought that science was all faked. Tbh, when you have Corbyn living in your head tent free he becomes on obsession , he will be blaming him for COVID ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"You really should research the political party you support. Next you’ll tell people the Labour Party is NOT a racist party. Do you want some fact/ figure on that as well??? No, let’s stick to the claims you have made on here, what are the results of the public inquiry? Do some research of your own, you nonce/racist supporters! Its all out there! This place gets weirder by the minute. I miss the posts claiming "Corbyn" was one of the options on the EU membership referendum. Or the guy who thought that science was all faked. Tbh, when you have Corbyn living in your head tent free he becomes on obsession , he will be blaming him for COVID ![]() ![]() Who is an idiot? Btw, did you manage to find the results of that public inquiry? ![]() | |||
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"You really should research the political party you support. Next you’ll tell people the Labour Party is NOT a racist party. Do you want some fact/ figure on that as well??? No, let’s stick to the claims you have made on here, what are the results of the public inquiry? Do some research of your own, you nonce/racist supporters! Its all out there! This place gets weirder by the minute. I miss the posts claiming "Corbyn" was one of the options on the EU membership referendum. Or the guy who thought that science was all faked. Tbh, when you have Corbyn living in your head tent free he becomes on obsession , he will be blaming him for COVID ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"oh dear, the far righty tommy robinson fascist nonsense is back then. " ![]() | |||
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"Yes she'd make a good leader of the next manned mission to Neptune , in case Keir Starmer crashes the rocket or Boris Johnson flogs it to his mates " Eh? ![]() | |||
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"Yes she'd make a good leader of the next manned mission to Neptune , in case Keir Starmer crashes the rocket or Boris Johnson flogs it to his mates " sounds like certainty did you see KS backing a lorry into the barrier at an HGV driving school ? | |||
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"oh dear, the far righty tommy robinson fascist nonsense is back then. ![]() The statement was from Nazir Afzal OBE born October 1962, Birmingham a British solicitor with experience in the legal areas of child sexual exploitation and violence against women. Hardly a TR or a member of the EDL is he. | |||
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"sounds like more far righty tommy robinson scum in fairness " OK so does the name Nazir Afzal sound far right to you ![]() | |||
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"The only people that like her in any numbers are the more middle class elements of Labour support who are thrilled to think they have found a ', working class' person who thinks like them. She is repellent to working-class voters who have far higher standards of speech and decorum than the middle class assume. A Rayner leadership would lead to yet another Conservative landslide...indeed, further Labour seats would be lost" Really? Her constituents from Ashton under lyne (a predominantly working class area) disagree, good effort though ![]() | |||
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"The only people that like her in any numbers are the more middle class elements of Labour support who are thrilled to think they have found a ', working class' person who thinks like them. She is repellent to working-class voters who have far higher standards of speech and decorum than the middle class assume. A Rayner leadership would lead to yet another Conservative landslide...indeed, further Labour seats would be lost Really? Her constituents from Ashton under lyne (a predominantly working class area) disagree, good effort though ![]() The fact that people in Ashton under Lyne vote Labour is for historic reasons. Nothing to do with Angela Rayner who would be an embarrassment | |||
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"The only people that like her in any numbers are the more middle class elements of Labour support who are thrilled to think they have found a ', working class' person who thinks like them. She is repellent to working-class voters who have far higher standards of speech and decorum than the middle class assume. A Rayner leadership would lead to yet another Conservative landslide...indeed, further Labour seats would be lost Really? Her constituents from Ashton under lyne (a predominantly working class area) disagree, good effort though ![]() She is very popular in the area, that’s why she won her seat, | |||
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"The only people that like her in any numbers are the more middle class elements of Labour support who are thrilled to think they have found a ', working class' person who thinks like them. She is repellent to working-class voters who have far higher standards of speech and decorum than the middle class assume. A Rayner leadership would lead to yet another Conservative landslide...indeed, further Labour seats would be lost Really? Her constituents from Ashton under lyne (a predominantly working class area) disagree, good effort though ![]() Thanks for your insights Your earlier effort was better. | |||
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"Angela Rayner won her constituency with a majority of 12%. In 2001 Labour won the constituency with a majority of 43.5%. She isn't popular with the working class. An embarrassment" So the politics of 2001 are exactly the same as now? Who'd have thought it. | |||
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"Angela Rayner won her constituency with a majority of 12%. In 2001 Labour won the constituency with a majority of 43.5%. She isn't popular with the working class. An embarrassment So the politics of 2001 are exactly the same as now? Who'd have thought it." Why don't you check other results in the area? Rayner is a disaster | |||
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"Angela Rayner won her constituency with a majority of 12%. In 2001 Labour won the constituency with a majority of 43.5%. She isn't popular with the working class. An embarrassment So the politics of 2001 are exactly the same as now? Who'd have thought it. Why don't you check other results in the area? Rayner is a disaster" She is very popular and well respected by her constituents, who is your local MP? | |||
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"Angela Rayner won her constituency with a majority of 12%. In 2001 Labour won the constituency with a majority of 43.5%. She isn't popular with the working class. An embarrassment So the politics of 2001 are exactly the same as now? Who'd have thought it. Why don't you check other results in the area? Rayner is a disaster" You put forward the idea, it's up to you to provide evidence to support your point. Can I ask though, which do you hate most, that's a highly successful woman clearly at the top end of life, or is it that she's a working class woman clearly at the top end of life? | |||
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"In 1997, Lab won Ashton under Lyme with a majority of 48.5% of the vote. In 2001, Lab won with a majority of 43.5%. 2005 38%. 2010 24% 2015 (Rayner becomes candidate) 28% 2019 Rayner still candidate...Lab majority 12% In other words, Labour generally wins Ashton with a majority averaging 35%. Since Rayner took over Labours majorities in the area have averaged 20%. She is an idiot" She is very popular and well respect by her constituents and the Labour Party, ![]() | |||
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"In 1997, Lab won Ashton under Lyme with a majority of 48.5% of the vote. In 2001, Lab won with a majority of 43.5%. 2005 38%. 2010 24% 2015 (Rayner becomes candidate) 28% 2019 Rayner still candidate...Lab majority 12% In other words, Labour generally wins Ashton with a majority averaging 35%. Since Rayner took over Labours majorities in the area have averaged 20%. She is an idiot She is very popular and well respect by her constituents and the Labour Party, ![]() Labour always wins that constituency. They don't win it because of Rayner. They win it despite Rayner. I hope she becomes the next Labour leader. It'll be interesting ![]() ![]() | |||
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"In 1997, Lab won Ashton under Lyme with a majority of 48.5% of the vote. In 2001, Lab won with a majority of 43.5%. 2005 38%. 2010 24% 2015 (Rayner becomes candidate) 28% 2019 Rayner still candidate...Lab majority 12% In other words, Labour generally wins Ashton with a majority averaging 35%. Since Rayner took over Labours majorities in the area have averaged 20%. She is an idiot She is very popular and well respect by her constituents and the Labour Party, ![]() ![]() ![]() She is very popular and well respect by her constituents (predominantly working class) and the Labour Party. ![]() | |||
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"I suspect even her seat would be lost if she became leader! Working-class people hate her type" Working class people voted for her in Ashton under lyne, where she is very popular abs well respected | |||
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"I suspect even her seat would be lost if she became leader! Working-class people hate her type Working class people voted for her in Ashton under lyne, where she is very popular abs well respected " Good luck in your efforts ![]() | |||
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"I suspect even her seat would be lost if she became leader! Working-class people hate her type Working class people voted for her in Ashton under lyne, where she is very popular abs well respected Good luck in your efforts ![]() Brexit, but not to worry, ‘Brexit is done’, | |||
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"I suspect even her seat would be lost if she became leader! Working-class people hate her type Working class people voted for her in Ashton under lyne, where she is very popular abs well respected Good luck in your efforts ![]() It goes far deeper than that | |||
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"I suspect even her seat would be lost if she became leader! Working-class people hate her type Working class people voted for her in Ashton under lyne, where she is very popular abs well respected Good luck in your efforts ![]() Here are the facts, Angela Rayner is very popular with the predominantly working class people of Ashton under Lyne, can I ask, who is your local MP? | |||
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"I suspect even her seat would be lost if she became leader! Working-class people hate her type Working class people voted for her in Ashton under lyne, where she is very popular abs well respected Good luck in your efforts ![]() But how has Labour s middle class membership become so alienated from ordinary people that they believe Rayner won't repel them? As election results show | |||
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"I suspect even her seat would be lost if she became leader! Working-class people hate her type Working class people voted for her in Ashton under lyne, where she is very popular abs well respected Good luck in your efforts ![]() Brexit | |||
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"I suspect even her seat would be lost if she became leader! Working-class people hate her type Working class people voted for her in Ashton under lyne, where she is very popular abs well respected Good luck in your efforts ![]() Why? | |||
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"I suspect even her seat would be lost if she became leader! Working-class people hate her type Working class people voted for her in Ashton under lyne, where she is very popular abs well respected Good luck in your efforts ![]() It's deeper than Brexit. Brexit just brought the middle class arrogance to the surface. I'm sure I've told you the real nature of Labours isolation many times but you only seem to smirk. Listening is always helpful | |||
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"I suspect even her seat would be lost if she became leader! Working-class people hate her type Working class people voted for her in Ashton under lyne, where she is very popular abs well respected Good luck in your efforts ![]() Because Brexit was the major issue in the last GE, labours position was weak , and electorate fell for Boris’s bullshit, | |||
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"I suspect even her seat would be lost if she became leader! Working-class people hate her type Working class people voted for her in Ashton under lyne, where she is very popular abs well respected Good luck in your efforts ![]() It's deeper than Brexit. Brexit just brought the middle class arrogance to the surface. I'm sure I've told you the real nature of Labours isolation many times but you only seem to smirk. Listening is always helpful | |||
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"I suspect even her seat would be lost if she became leader! Working-class people hate her type Working class people voted for her in Ashton under lyne, where she is very popular abs well respected Good luck in your efforts ![]() Sorry Adrian but you have no credibility with me, your Monnet faux pas was the final straw, | |||
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"I suspect even her seat would be lost if she became leader! Working-class people hate her type Working class people voted for her in Ashton under lyne, where she is very popular abs well respected Good luck in your efforts ![]() But I've asked you to explain my non-existent 'Monnet faux pas' many times and you don't. How then was Monnet working to make the EU's rulers closer to the public? A clue: he wasn't | |||
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"I suspect even her seat would be lost if she became leader! Working-class people hate her type Working class people voted for her in Ashton under lyne, where she is very popular abs well respected Good luck in your efforts ![]() This is tedious as you obviously don’t understand, you kept making falsely quoting that monnet said ‘Europes nations should be guided towards thr superstate without their people understanding what is happening ‘ he never said this. You also stated that the working class hate Angela Rayner based on no evidence abs despite the fact the her constituents are predominantly working class. I am afraid you have no credibility with me and shall refrain from taking anything you say seriously. | |||
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"I suspect even her seat would be lost if she became leader! Working-class people hate her type Working class people voted for her in Ashton under lyne, where she is very popular abs well respected Good luck in your efforts ![]() So, what you're saying is that the EU was designed to narrow the gap between rulers and the public? Have you evidence for that? Can you provide evidence that Monnet didn't want to insulate the EU from public opinion. Pray tell! | |||
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"Gee, I'd hate it if I was judged now, as a 36yo woman, on the basis I was a mother at 16. It's perfectly possible to be a teen parent and be highly educated and be very successful career wise. I don't know much about Angela Rayner from a political standpoint, but judging her on her personal circumstances years and years ago is fundamentally unfair." The objections to Rayner aren't because she was a young mother. They stem from the fact that she is spectacularly dim and is very abusive to people who hold different opinions | |||
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"Gee, I'd hate it if I was judged now, as a 36yo woman, on the basis I was a mother at 16. It's perfectly possible to be a teen parent and be highly educated and be very successful career wise. I don't know much about Angela Rayner from a political standpoint, but judging her on her personal circumstances years and years ago is fundamentally unfair. The objections to Rayner aren't because she was a young mother. They stem from the fact that she is spectacularly dim and is very abusive to people who hold different opinions" Someone further up stated her CV isn't great, because she'd been a teen mum with few qualifications. That specific poster didn't reference much else. Again, I don't know the woman - how do you know she's dim? The lack of formal qualifications doesn't mean a person is dim. | |||
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"Gee, I'd hate it if I was judged now, as a 36yo woman, on the basis I was a mother at 16. It's perfectly possible to be a teen parent and be highly educated and be very successful career wise. I don't know much about Angela Rayner from a political standpoint, but judging her on her personal circumstances years and years ago is fundamentally unfair. The objections to Rayner aren't because she was a young mother. They stem from the fact that she is spectacularly dim and is very abusive to people who hold different opinions Someone further up stated her CV isn't great, because she'd been a teen mum with few qualifications. That specific poster didn't reference much else. Again, I don't know the woman - how do you know she's dim? The lack of formal qualifications doesn't mean a person is dim. " To be a member of parliament you do not need a single qualification all you need is for people to vote for you and get more x's by your name than the other candidates. | |||
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"Gee, I'd hate it if I was judged now, as a 36yo woman, on the basis I was a mother at 16. It's perfectly possible to be a teen parent and be highly educated and be very successful career wise. I don't know much about Angela Rayner from a political standpoint, but judging her on her personal circumstances years and years ago is fundamentally unfair. The objections to Rayner aren't because she was a young mother. They stem from the fact that she is spectacularly dim and is very abusive to people who hold different opinions Someone further up stated her CV isn't great, because she'd been a teen mum with few qualifications. That specific poster didn't reference much else. Again, I don't know the woman - how do you know she's dim? The lack of formal qualifications doesn't mean a person is dim. To be a member of parliament you do not need a single qualification all you need is for people to vote for you and get more x's by your name than the other candidates. " Indeed, but still doesn't explain why there's an assumption this woman is "dim". All we've got so far is she was a teen mum and had no formal qualifications. I'm unclear if she has since achieved any? It just grates on me when someone's suitability to be an MP or even the PM is debating from the perspective of their personal circumstances many years ago and whether or not they have a degree! | |||
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"Gee, I'd hate it if I was judged now, as a 36yo woman, on the basis I was a mother at 16. It's perfectly possible to be a teen parent and be highly educated and be very successful career wise. I don't know much about Angela Rayner from a political standpoint, but judging her on her personal circumstances years and years ago is fundamentally unfair. The objections to Rayner aren't because she was a young mother. They stem from the fact that she is spectacularly dim and is very abusive to people who hold different opinions" Yes such people should have a serious look at themselves being so insulting to others with a different political opinion. So I thought I’d quote you. “I just recall the immense snobbery of the Remainers. So used to getting their own way for over 20 years they threw a massive tantrum in which they labelled Leavers as low-education, stupid, knuckledraggers, mouth breathers, racists, Nazis, various 'phobes' and said they were too stupid for their vote to stand. They won't be forgiven for generations. What people! “ Recognise your words Adrian? Very disappointing and I’ll let you decide whether dim or not but it’s another example of why I tend to ignore you. . ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Gee, I'd hate it if I was judged now, as a 36yo woman, on the basis I was a mother at 16. It's perfectly possible to be a teen parent and be highly educated and be very successful career wise. I don't know much about Angela Rayner from a political standpoint, but judging her on her personal circumstances years and years ago is fundamentally unfair. The objections to Rayner aren't because she was a young mother. They stem from the fact that she is spectacularly dim and is very abusive to people who hold different opinions Someone further up stated her CV isn't great, because she'd been a teen mum with few qualifications. That specific poster didn't reference much else. Again, I don't know the woman - how do you know she's dim? The lack of formal qualifications doesn't mean a person is dim. " Her dimness is nothing to do with qualifications. Just watch her on YouTube | |||
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"Gee, I'd hate it if I was judged now, as a 36yo woman, on the basis I was a mother at 16. It's perfectly possible to be a teen parent and be highly educated and be very successful career wise. I don't know much about Angela Rayner from a political standpoint, but judging her on her personal circumstances years and years ago is fundamentally unfair. The objections to Rayner aren't because she was a young mother. They stem from the fact that she is spectacularly dim and is very abusive to people who hold different opinions Someone further up stated her CV isn't great, because she'd been a teen mum with few qualifications. That specific poster didn't reference much else. Again, I don't know the woman - how do you know she's dim? The lack of formal qualifications doesn't mean a person is dim. To be a member of parliament you do not need a single qualification all you need is for people to vote for you and get more x's by your name than the other candidates. Indeed, but still doesn't explain why there's an assumption this woman is "dim". All we've got so far is she was a teen mum and had no formal qualifications. I'm unclear if she has since achieved any? It just grates on me when someone's suitability to be an MP or even the PM is debating from the perspective of their personal circumstances many years ago and whether or not they have a degree! " You need hatred and fear for the illusion of politics to take hold. | |||
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"Gee, I'd hate it if I was judged now, as a 36yo woman, on the basis I was a mother at 16. It's perfectly possible to be a teen parent and be highly educated and be very successful career wise. I don't know much about Angela Rayner from a political standpoint, but judging her on her personal circumstances years and years ago is fundamentally unfair. The objections to Rayner aren't because she was a young mother. They stem from the fact that she is spectacularly dim and is very abusive to people who hold different opinions Yes such people should have a serious look at themselves being so insulting to others with a different political opinion. So I thought I’d quote you. “I just recall the immense snobbery of the Remainers. So used to getting their own way for over 20 years they threw a massive tantrum in which they labelled Leavers as low-education, stupid, knuckledraggers, mouth breathers, racists, Nazis, various 'phobes' and said they were too stupid for their vote to stand. They won't be forgiven for generations. What people! “ Recognise your words Adrian? Very disappointing and I’ll let you decide whether dim or not but it’s another example of why I tend to ignore you. . ![]() ![]() Yes, the Remainers were/are appallingly abusive and incredibly dim. Angela Rayner is also abusive and dim. What's your point? | |||
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"Gee, I'd hate it if I was judged now, as a 36yo woman, on the basis I was a mother at 16. It's perfectly possible to be a teen parent and be highly educated and be very successful career wise. I don't know much about Angela Rayner from a political standpoint, but judging her on her personal circumstances years and years ago is fundamentally unfair. The objections to Rayner aren't because she was a young mother. They stem from the fact that she is spectacularly dim and is very abusive to people who hold different opinions Someone further up stated her CV isn't great, because she'd been a teen mum with few qualifications. That specific poster didn't reference much else. Again, I don't know the woman - how do you know she's dim? The lack of formal qualifications doesn't mean a person is dim. Her dimness is nothing to do with qualifications. Just watch her on YouTube" Why are you watching her on YouTube? | |||
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"Gee, I'd hate it if I was judged now, as a 36yo woman, on the basis I was a mother at 16. It's perfectly possible to be a teen parent and be highly educated and be very successful career wise. I don't know much about Angela Rayner from a political standpoint, but judging her on her personal circumstances years and years ago is fundamentally unfair. The objections to Rayner aren't because she was a young mother. They stem from the fact that she is spectacularly dim and is very abusive to people who hold different opinions Someone further up stated her CV isn't great, because she'd been a teen mum with few qualifications. That specific poster didn't reference much else. Again, I don't know the woman - how do you know she's dim? The lack of formal qualifications doesn't mean a person is dim. Her dimness is nothing to do with qualifications. Just watch her on YouTube Why are you watching her on YouTube? " She sometimes pops up as part of news items/opinion pieces as an example of how laughable she is. Comedy gold | |||
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"Gee, I'd hate it if I was judged now, as a 36yo woman, on the basis I was a mother at 16. It's perfectly possible to be a teen parent and be highly educated and be very successful career wise. I don't know much about Angela Rayner from a political standpoint, but judging her on her personal circumstances years and years ago is fundamentally unfair. The objections to Rayner aren't because she was a young mother. They stem from the fact that she is spectacularly dim and is very abusive to people who hold different opinions Yes such people should have a serious look at themselves being so insulting to others with a different political opinion. So I thought I’d quote you. “I just recall the immense snobbery of the Remainers. So used to getting their own way for over 20 years they threw a massive tantrum in which they labelled Leavers as low-education, stupid, knuckledraggers, mouth breathers, racists, Nazis, various 'phobes' and said they were too stupid for their vote to stand. They won't be forgiven for generations. What people! “ Recognise your words Adrian? Very disappointing and I’ll let you decide whether dim or not but it’s another example of why I tend to ignore you. . ![]() ![]() And there you have it you have just indicated where you stand in the dim stakes . My point is confirmed and if you can’t see that then my reason for not taking you seriously is also confirmed. Goodnight | |||
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"Gee, I'd hate it if I was judged now, as a 36yo woman, on the basis I was a mother at 16. It's perfectly possible to be a teen parent and be highly educated and be very successful career wise. I don't know much about Angela Rayner from a political standpoint, but judging her on her personal circumstances years and years ago is fundamentally unfair. The objections to Rayner aren't because she was a young mother. They stem from the fact that she is spectacularly dim and is very abusive to people who hold different opinions Someone further up stated her CV isn't great, because she'd been a teen mum with few qualifications. That specific poster didn't reference much else. Again, I don't know the woman - how do you know she's dim? The lack of formal qualifications doesn't mean a person is dim. Her dimness is nothing to do with qualifications. Just watch her on YouTube Why are you watching her on YouTube? She sometimes pops up as part of news items/opinion pieces as an example of how laughable she is. Comedy gold" You get your news from YouTube? Explains a lot | |||
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"Gee, I'd hate it if I was judged now, as a 36yo woman, on the basis I was a mother at 16. It's perfectly possible to be a teen parent and be highly educated and be very successful career wise. I don't know much about Angela Rayner from a political standpoint, but judging her on her personal circumstances years and years ago is fundamentally unfair. The objections to Rayner aren't because she was a young mother. They stem from the fact that she is spectacularly dim and is very abusive to people who hold different opinions Yes such people should have a serious look at themselves being so insulting to others with a different political opinion. So I thought I’d quote you. “I just recall the immense snobbery of the Remainers. So used to getting their own way for over 20 years they threw a massive tantrum in which they labelled Leavers as low-education, stupid, knuckledraggers, mouth breathers, racists, Nazis, various 'phobes' and said they were too stupid for their vote to stand. They won't be forgiven for generations. What people! “ Recognise your words Adrian? Very disappointing and I’ll let you decide whether dim or not but it’s another example of why I tend to ignore you. . ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Gee, I'd hate it if I was judged now, as a 36yo woman, on the basis I was a mother at 16. It's perfectly possible to be a teen parent and be highly educated and be very successful career wise. I don't know much about Angela Rayner from a political standpoint, but judging her on her personal circumstances years and years ago is fundamentally unfair. The objections to Rayner aren't because she was a young mother. They stem from the fact that she is spectacularly dim and is very abusive to people who hold different opinions Yes such people should have a serious look at themselves being so insulting to others with a different political opinion. So I thought I’d quote you. “I just recall the immense snobbery of the Remainers. So used to getting their own way for over 20 years they threw a massive tantrum in which they labelled Leavers as low-education, stupid, knuckledraggers, mouth breathers, racists, Nazis, various 'phobes' and said they were too stupid for their vote to stand. They won't be forgiven for generations. What people! “ Recognise your words Adrian? Very disappointing and I’ll let you decide whether dim or not but it’s another example of why I tend to ignore you. . ![]() ![]() Is something contradictory in what I said? What? Try again | |||
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"Gee, I'd hate it if I was judged now, as a 36yo woman, on the basis I was a mother at 16. It's perfectly possible to be a teen parent and be highly educated and be very successful career wise. I don't know much about Angela Rayner from a political standpoint, but judging her on her personal circumstances years and years ago is fundamentally unfair. The objections to Rayner aren't because she was a young mother. They stem from the fact that she is spectacularly dim and is very abusive to people who hold different opinions Yes such people should have a serious look at themselves being so insulting to others with a different political opinion. So I thought I’d quote you. “I just recall the immense snobbery of the Remainers. So used to getting their own way for over 20 years they threw a massive tantrum in which they labelled Leavers as low-education, stupid, knuckledraggers, mouth breathers, racists, Nazis, various 'phobes' and said they were too stupid for their vote to stand. They won't be forgiven for generations. What people! “ Recognise your words Adrian? Very disappointing and I’ll let you decide whether dim or not but it’s another example of why I tend to ignore you. . ![]() ![]() Silence. I presume you can't explain what you have said | |||
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"She cant even be trusted with airpods the tax payers bought her shes lost them on a train. ![]() Just wait till you see how BoZo spent your money | |||
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"She's got lush hair and wears hot heels that's good enough for me and if she wants she can fook me with a strap on that's a big plus. ![]() She probably would, hear she’s still a bit of a girl. | |||
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"She's got lush hair and wears hot heels that's good enough for me and if she wants she can fook me with a strap on that's a big plus. ![]() Nice ![]() | |||
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"Says a lot about people of Stoke...she is completely unelectable, doesn't even speak English properly. How would she be able to make a decision on the economy..there should be a criteria to become an MP..you should have actually worked in industry for 5 years. No one should be allowed to become an MP until the age of 30 " Are you talking about Angela Rayner? | |||
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"Says a lot about people of Stoke...she is completely unelectable, doesn't even speak English properly. How would she be able to make a decision on the economy..there should be a criteria to become an MP..you should have actually worked in industry for 5 years. No one should be allowed to become an MP until the age of 30 " She didn't even go to Eton. | |||
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"Says a lot about people of Stoke...she is completely unelectable, doesn't even speak English properly. How would she be able to make a decision on the economy..there should be a criteria to become an MP..you should have actually worked in industry for 5 years. No one should be allowed to become an MP until the age of 30 She didn't even go to Eton." And she is 41, became an MP when she was 35 and represents Ashton under Lyne , ![]() | |||
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"Says a lot about people of Stoke...she is completely unelectable, doesn't even speak English properly. How would she be able to make a decision on the economy..there should be a criteria to become an MP..you should have actually worked in industry for 5 years. No one should be allowed to become an MP until the age of 30 " Does care work not count as "industry" What about journalism ? | |||
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"She's openly aggressive in the same way as RLB and doesn't seem able to wind her neck in. Not statesmanlike in the slightest in my opinion. I don't believe she and Starmer are a happy mix, more likely he's appeasing the left of the party" Statesman like ![]() ![]() | |||
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"She's openly aggressive in the same way as RLB and doesn't seem able to wind her neck in. Not statesmanlike in the slightest in my opinion. I don't believe she and Starmer are a happy mix, more likely he's appeasing the left of the party Statesman like ![]() ![]() Irrelevant since we're talking about Angela Rayner | |||
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"She's openly aggressive in the same way as RLB and doesn't seem able to wind her neck in. Not statesmanlike in the slightest in my opinion. I don't believe she and Starmer are a happy mix, more likely he's appeasing the left of the party Statesman like ![]() ![]() How many politicians could be described as statesman like? Let's take care not to hold her to a higher standard than any other MP. PS: As my earlier comments attest, I know little about Angela Rayner specifically. | |||
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"She's openly aggressive in the same way as RLB and doesn't seem able to wind her neck in. Not statesmanlike in the slightest in my opinion. I don't believe she and Starmer are a happy mix, more likely he's appeasing the left of the party Statesman like ![]() ![]() I understand that but the thread us about her specifically, not politicians in general | |||
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"She's openly aggressive in the same way as RLB and doesn't seem able to wind her neck in. Not statesmanlike in the slightest in my opinion. I don't believe she and Starmer are a happy mix, more likely he's appeasing the left of the party Statesman like ![]() ![]() And my point is that she seems (for reasons unknown) to be held to higher standards than others. Why? Because she's female? Labour? Northern? A single parent/teen parent (shock horror!) | |||
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"She's openly aggressive in the same way as RLB and doesn't seem able to wind her neck in. Not statesmanlike in the slightest in my opinion. I don't believe she and Starmer are a happy mix, more likely he's appeasing the left of the party Statesman like ![]() ![]() I don't think she is at all | |||
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