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If you voted for Johnson before, would you vote for him again?

By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I ask this question in the wake of the Paterson lobbying scandal. A scandal that was made very much worse when Johnson used Paterson as an excuse to try and tear up the rulebook that's there to try and hold MPs to account.

Johnson has arguably done things that are far worse. But I'm getting a feeling the Paterson incident might be the tipping point for some.

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By *L RogueMan over a year ago

London

This will be interesting...

*grabs popcorn...*

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I think it's a clear and simple question. I guess we'll see what answers it gets, if any.

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By *he_Last_TitanMan over a year ago

Bristol

No, but then I didn’t vote for him the first time. He’s not my MP.

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

Does anyone vote for a person? they have to be pretty stupid if they do. Personally i vote on the main points in a manifesto the ones that benefit me and my family and come across as credible are the party i go for,who cares who the person is if they stick to the manifesto.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

"Does anyone vote for a person? they have to be pretty stupid if they do. Personally i vote on the main points in a manifesto the ones that benefit me and my family and come across as credible are the party i go for,who cares who the person is if they stick to the manifesto."

Is "disaster capitalism" in the Tory party manifesto?

Or awarding PPE contracts through nepotism.

Or flushing human shit into the rivers.

Or lying to the queen.

Or lying to the British public

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple over a year ago

Broadstairs

Is "disaster capitalism" in the Tory party manifesto?

Or awarding PPE contracts through nepotism.

Or flushing human shit into the rivers.

Or lying to the queen.

Or lying to the British public

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

Is "disaster capitalism" in the Tory party manifesto?

Or awarding PPE contracts through nepotism.

Or flushing human shit into the rivers.

Or lying to the queen.

Or lying to the British public

Because people don't seem to give a shit about any of the above.

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple over a year ago

Broadstairs

Is "disaster capitalism" in the Tory party manifesto?

Or awarding PPE contracts through nepotism.

Or flushing human shit into the rivers.

Or lying to the queen.

Or lying to the British public

Because people don't seem to give a shit about any of the above. "
Doubt that’s the reason

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

Is "disaster capitalism" in the Tory party manifesto?

Or awarding PPE contracts through nepotism.

Or flushing human shit into the rivers.

Or lying to the queen.

Or lying to the British public

Because people don't seem to give a shit about any of the above. Doubt that’s the reason "

People keep voting Tory though.

I guess we might find out more if some conservative votes decide to contribute.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I ask this question in the wake of the Paterson lobbying scandal. A scandal that was made very much worse when Johnson used Paterson as an excuse to try and tear up the rulebook that's there to try and hold MPs to account.

Johnson has arguably done things that are far worse. But I'm getting a feeling the Paterson incident might be the tipping point for some.

Ffs get a life, do you think your really going to change the political world by posting shite on a swingers forum??

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By *estivalMan over a year ago

borehamwood

Is "disaster capitalism" in the Tory party manifesto?

Or awarding PPE contracts through nepotism.

Or flushing human shit into the rivers.

Or lying to the queen.

Or lying to the British public

Etc etc. Could go on all day. But the point is, the Tories are not credible when it comes to sticking to their manifesto. Even if their manifesto is broadly speaking Eton speak for, fuck the poor, they're actually much worse than that. All very true but why doesn’t Labour get voted in ? "
im guessing because the uk and england in particulat are a conservitive country,cant see any other reason for why there has only been two labour goverments over the last 40-50 years

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

Is "disaster capitalism" in the Tory party manifesto?

Or awarding PPE contracts through nepotism.

Or flushing human shit into the rivers.

Or lying to the queen.

Or lying to the British public

Because people don't seem to give a shit about any of the above. Doubt that’s the reason

People keep voting Tory though.

I guess we might find out more if some conservative votes decide to contribute. "
I think the reasons people never voted for labour last time have been well covered before,corbyn sat on the fence over Brexit and could not say how his spending spree was going to be paid for.The electorate contrary to some on here are not stupid.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Plus the public didn’t and still don’t trust corbyn. And why should they trust a terrorist supporting, Marxist communists bastard.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

"Plus the public didn’t and still don’t trust corbyn. And why should they trust a terrorist supporting, Marxist communists bastard. "

Lol.

Amazing.

Seriously though. Is the ex labour leader your justification for not caring that the current government is ripping off the country and using the pandemic and Brexit to line their own pockets?

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple over a year ago

Broadstairs

"Plus the public didn’t and still don’t trust corbyn. And why should they trust a terrorist supporting, Marxist communists bastard. "
Think your partly right England in general especially in southern England do not like lefties apart from London , Labour had to turn right to get elected under Blair, with no worthwhile opposition Conservatives can do what they want and still get in at election time

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

"Plus the public didn’t and still don’t trust corbyn. And why should they trust a terrorist supporting, Marxist communists bastard.

Lol.

Amazing.

Seriously though. Is the ex labour leader your justification for not caring that the current government is ripping off the country and using the pandemic and Brexit to line their own pockets?"
I keep hearing this but has there been one case so far of people lining their pockets? It is so easy to throw accusations about when you disagree but personally i like to see actual proof not someone's bias opinion. If any corruption has taken place the full force of the law should be brought down to bare.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It’ll be interesting to see if all the Red Wall Northerners sill vote the same way next election. I wonder how levelling up is going. Will they see much improvement since Brexit that they helped support.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

"Plus the public didn’t and still don’t trust corbyn. And why should they trust a terrorist supporting, Marxist communists bastard.

Lol.

Amazing.

Seriously though. Is the ex labour leader your justification for not caring that the current government is ripping off the country and using the pandemic and Brexit to line their own pockets?I keep hearing this but has there been one case so far of people lining their pockets? It is so easy to throw accusations about when you disagree but personally i like to see actual proof not someone's bias opinion. If any corruption has taken place the full force of the law should be brought down to bare."

Have you been reading about Owen Peterson? There's one single example.

Do you think it's appropriate that the Tories do everything they can to concentrate on getting rich, and getting Tory party donors rich? Bending the law, trying to change the methods of scrutiny to worm their way out of trouble?

In any case. I think you answered the OP. None of this matters to you personally. Which is fine.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Plus the public didn’t and still don’t trust corbyn. And why should they trust a terrorist supporting, Marxist communists bastard. "

Corbyn isn’t an option anymore, try again

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

"Plus the public didn’t and still don’t trust corbyn. And why should they trust a terrorist supporting, Marxist communists bastard.

Lol.

Amazing.

Seriously though. Is the ex labour leader your justification for not caring that the current government is ripping off the country and using the pandemic and Brexit to line their own pockets?I keep hearing this but has there been one case so far of people lining their pockets? It is so easy to throw accusations about when you disagree but personally i like to see actual proof not someone's bias opinion. If any corruption has taken place the full force of the law should be brought down to bare.

Have you been reading about Owen Peterson? There's one single example.

In any case. I think you answered the OP. None of this matters to you personally. Which is fine. "
What matters to me is my family and their future thats true, i vote for whom i think will make them better off and that doesn't mean just monetary.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

"Plus the public didn’t and still don’t trust corbyn. And why should they trust a terrorist supporting, Marxist communists bastard.

Lol.

Amazing.

Seriously though. Is the ex labour leader your justification for not caring that the current government is ripping off the country and using the pandemic and Brexit to line their own pockets?I keep hearing this but has there been one case so far of people lining their pockets? It is so easy to throw accusations about when you disagree but personally i like to see actual proof not someone's bias opinion. If any corruption has taken place the full force of the law should be brought down to bare.

Have you been reading about Owen Peterson? There's one single example.

In any case. I think you answered the OP. None of this matters to you personally. Which is fine. What matters to me is my family and their future thats true, i vote for whom i think will make them better off and that doesn't mean just monetary."

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By *or Fox SakeCouple over a year ago

Thornaby

"Plus the public didn’t and still don’t trust corbyn. And why should they trust a terrorist supporting, Marxist communists bastard.

Lol.

Amazing.

Seriously though. Is the ex labour leader your justification for not caring that the current government is ripping off the country and using the pandemic and Brexit to line their own pockets?I keep hearing this but has there been one case so far of people lining their pockets? It is so easy to throw accusations about when you disagree but personally i like to see actual proof not someone's bias opinion. If any corruption has taken place the full force of the law should be brought down to bare.

Have you been reading about Owen Peterson? There's one single example.

So what do you then do when their manifesto turns out to be a pack of lies, when they prove to be deeply incompetent and corrupted?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

"Plus the public didn’t and still don’t trust corbyn. And why should they trust a terrorist supporting, Marxist communists bastard. "

Question. On a previous thread you mentioned that anyone who takes a moment to consider the impact of brexit should "fuck off out of the country".

Does the same apply to people making outrageous claims such as "Corbyn is not the current Labour leader"?

Asking for a friend.

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

"Plus the public didn’t and still don’t trust corbyn. And why should they trust a terrorist supporting, Marxist communists bastard.

Question. On a previous thread you mentioned that anyone who takes a moment to consider the impact of brexit should "fuck off out of the country".

Does the same apply to people making outrageous claims such as "Corbyn is not the current Labour leader"?

Asking for a friend.

"
Not me mate you must be getting your posters mixed up.

do try to post accurate information other people will read that and think its true.

I know you are new here and so are some others but the regular crew will know thats not my view and you are talking utter bo$%ocks.

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By *ebbie69Couple over a year ago

milton keynes

Johnson has arguably done things that are far worse. But I'm getting a feeling the Paterson incident might be the tipping point for some.

In the past I have voted for both main parties by how I judge at the time. I can't say now how I will feel shortly before the next GE. For me the Paterson saga is a big tick in the negative column for y conservative if that helps. Will have to wait until the GE and compare the full term to what other parties say/promise

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

"Plus the public didn’t and still don’t trust corbyn. And why should they trust a terrorist supporting, Marxist communists bastard.

Question. On a previous thread you mentioned that anyone who takes a moment to consider the impact of brexit should "fuck off out of the country".

Does the same apply to people making outrageous claims such as "Corbyn is not the current Labour leader"?

Asking for a friend.

Not me mate you must be getting your posters mixed up.

do try to post accurate information other people will read that and think its true.

I know you are new here and so are some others but the regular crew will know thats not my view and you are talking utter bo$%ocks."

Having a 'mare today?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

Johnson has arguably done things that are far worse. But I'm getting a feeling the Paterson incident might be the tipping point for some.

Will many people think back to this saga at election time?

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

"Plus the public didn’t and still don’t trust corbyn. And why should they trust a terrorist supporting, Marxist communists bastard.

Question. On a previous thread you mentioned that anyone who takes a moment to consider the impact of brexit should "fuck off out of the country".

Does the same apply to people making outrageous claims such as "Corbyn is not the current Labour leader"?

Asking for a friend.

Not me mate you must be getting your posters mixed up.

do try to post accurate information other people will read that and think its true.

I know you are new here and so are some others but the regular crew will know thats not my view and you are talking utter bo$%ocks.

Having a 'mare today?

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I actually think you should apologise for putting my name to a post i actually dont agree with and didnt comment on it seems to me its you who is having a mare as you like to put it having to resort to those tactics.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

"Plus the public didn’t and still don’t trust corbyn. And why should they trust a terrorist supporting, Marxist communists bastard.

Question. On a previous thread you mentioned that anyone who takes a moment to consider the impact of brexit should "fuck off out of the country".

Does the same apply to people making outrageous claims such as "Corbyn is not the current Labour leader"?

Asking for a friend.

Not me mate you must be getting your posters mixed up.

do try to post accurate information other people will read that and think its true.

I know you are new here and so are some others but the regular crew will know thats not my view and you are talking utter bo$%ocks.

Having a 'mare today?

I actually think you should apologise for putting my name to a post i actually dont agree with and didnt comment on it seems to me its you who is having a mare as you like to put it having to resort to those tactics."

Take a deep breath. Pause. And you will see I was not replying to you.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Plus the public didn’t and still don’t trust corbyn. And why should they trust a terrorist supporting, Marxist communists bastard.

Corbyn isn’t an option anymore, try again "

But Corbyn was when Boris won by a landside Sid. That the point!

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By *oo hotCouple over a year ago

North West

Johnson has arguably done things that are far worse. But I'm getting a feeling the Paterson incident might be the tipping point for some.

Will many people think back to this saga at election time?"

There will be plenty more of the same between now and then, I think we can all be sure of that.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

"Plus the public didn’t and still don’t trust corbyn. And why should they trust a terrorist supporting, Marxist communists bastard.

Corbyn isn’t an option anymore, try again

But Corbyn was when Boris won by a landside Sid. That the point!"

Just so we're clear, you are saying you would vote for Boris again, (as per the question in the OP), and the reason is because a different labour leader, who you don't like, lost the election to Boris Johnson last time around.

Fair play.

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By *ebbie69Couple over a year ago

milton keynes

Johnson has arguably done things that are far worse. But I'm getting a feeling the Paterson incident might be the tipping point for some.

Will many people think back to this saga at election time?"

I will think back to it, yes. Obviously I can't speak for others. I do feel rightly or wrongly that one of the opposition jobs is to remind voters of such mistakes. It will be the usual thing of the incumbent government going on about good things and opposition about bad things and hopefully how they plan to do a better job.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Plus the public didn’t and still don’t trust corbyn. And why should they trust a terrorist supporting, Marxist communists bastard.

Corbyn isn’t an option anymore, try again

But Corbyn was when Boris won by a landside Sid. That the point!"

No it isn’t, would you vote for him again, try and keep up Bert

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Plus the public didn’t and still don’t trust corbyn. And why should they trust a terrorist supporting, Marxist communists bastard.

Corbyn isn’t an option anymore, try again

But Corbyn was when Boris won by a landside Sid. That the point!

No it isn’t, would you vote for him again, try and keep up Bert

Touched a nerve Sid?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

"Plus the public didn’t and still don’t trust corbyn. And why should they trust a terrorist supporting, Marxist communists bastard.

Corbyn isn’t an option anymore, try again

But Corbyn was when Boris won by a landside Sid. That the point!

No it isn’t, would you vote for him again, try and keep up Bert

Touched a nerve Sid?

I saw your last message, the one you deleted.

Poor form.

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By *oxychick35Couple over a year ago

thornaby

Simple answer no

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Plus the public didn’t and still don’t trust corbyn. And why should they trust a terrorist supporting, Marxist communists bastard.

Corbyn isn’t an option anymore, try again

But Corbyn was when Boris won by a landside Sid. That the point!

No it isn’t, would you vote for him again, try and keep up Bert

Touched a nerve Sid?

Haha, don’t be daft Keith, your obsession with Corbyn is worrying, noted

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Plus the public didn’t and still don’t trust corbyn. And why should they trust a terrorist supporting, Marxist communists bastard.

Corbyn isn’t an option anymore, try again

But Corbyn was when Boris won by a landside Sid. That the point!

No it isn’t, would you vote for him again, try and keep up Bert

Touched a nerve Sid?

I saw your last message, the one you deleted.

Poor form."

What did it say? He obviously wasn’t brave enough to post it

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

"Plus the public didn’t and still don’t trust corbyn. And why should they trust a terrorist supporting, Marxist communists bastard.

Corbyn isn’t an option anymore, try again

But Corbyn was when Boris won by a landside Sid. That the point!

No it isn’t, would you vote for him again, try and keep up Bert

Touched a nerve Sid?

I saw your last message, the one you deleted.

Poor form.

What did it say? He obviously wasn’t brave enough to post it "

It was fucking vile. I won't repeat it.

Suffice to say, it was against the forum rules.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

"Simple answer no "

Interesting. Did he not meet expectations?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Plus the public didn’t and still don’t trust corbyn. And why should they trust a terrorist supporting, Marxist communists bastard.

Corbyn isn’t an option anymore, try again

But Corbyn was when Boris won by a landside Sid. That the point!

No it isn’t, would you vote for him again, try and keep up Bert

Touched a nerve Sid?

I saw your last message, the one you deleted.

Poor form.

What did it say? He obviously wasn’t brave enough to post it

It was fucking vile. I won't repeat it.

Suffice to say, it was against the forum rules."

Haha, to be expected , some people can’t take the banter

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By *oxychick35Couple over a year ago

thornaby

"Simple answer no

Interesting. Did he not meet expectations?"
he got brexit done job done that was it for me

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Plus the public didn’t and still don’t trust corbyn. And why should they trust a terrorist supporting, Marxist communists bastard.

Corbyn isn’t an option anymore, try again

But Corbyn was when Boris won by a landside Sid. That the point!

No it isn’t, would you vote for him again, try and keep up Bert

Touched a nerve Sid?

I saw your last message, the one you deleted.

Poor form.

What did it say? He obviously wasn’t brave enough to post it

It was fucking vile. I won't repeat it.

Suffice to say, it was against the forum rules."

No it wasn’t mentioned the fact that corbyn supports terrorist and peadophiles, but then so does the Labour Party, oh and not to mention Labour is a racist party.

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By *irldnCouple over a year ago

Brighton

Is "disaster capitalism" in the Tory party manifesto?

Or awarding PPE contracts through nepotism.

Or flushing human shit into the rivers.

Or lying to the queen.

Or lying to the British public

Because people don't seem to give a shit about any of the above. Doubt that’s the reason

People keep voting Tory though.

I guess we might find out more if some conservative votes decide to contribute. I think the reasons people never voted for labour last time have been well covered before,corbyn sat on the fence over Brexit and could not say how his spending spree was going to be paid for.The electorate contrary to some on here are not stupid."

You just said people don’t vote for people (implying tory voters voted for the party not Johnson) then can’t mention Labour without mentioning Corbyn? Make your mind up Costa!

Regardless of what the UK FPTP constituency politics is “supposed” to mean, of course most people in the UK vote for the person they want to see as PM (as long as they are in the tribe/team they are incapable of voting against)!

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By *irldnCouple over a year ago

Brighton

"Simple answer no

Interesting. Did he not meet expectations? he got brexit done job done that was it for me "

And look what that blinkered single issue has enabled. Brexit = Trojan Horse bringing in a proto-fascist Govt that are barely recognisable as Conservatives. Thatcher would be ashamed!

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By *or Fox SakeCouple over a year ago

Thornaby

"Simple answer no

Interesting. Did he not meet expectations? he got brexit done job done that was it for me "

Yea it's so done he wants to rip up the treaties he signed

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

As a 100% Thatcherite I couldn’t agree more. This mob are nothing more than the self serving Russian mobsters in my humble opinion

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By *irldnCouple over a year ago

Brighton

"As a 100% Thatcherite I couldn’t agree more. This mob are nothing more than the self serving Russian mobsters in my humble opinion "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Plus the public didn’t and still don’t trust corbyn. And why should they trust a terrorist supporting, Marxist communists bastard.

Corbyn isn’t an option anymore, try again

But Corbyn was when Boris won by a landside Sid. That the point!

No it isn’t, would you vote for him again, try and keep up Bert

Touched a nerve Sid?

I saw your last message, the one you deleted.

Poor form.

What did it say? He obviously wasn’t brave enough to post it

It was fucking vile. I won't repeat it.

Suffice to say, it was against the forum rules.

No it wasn’t mentioned the fact that corbyn supports terrorist and peadophiles, but then so does the Labour Party, oh and not to mention Labour is a racist party.

Cobyn isn’t labour leader anymore, I think your struggling with what the OP is asking,

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"As a 100% Thatcherite I couldn’t agree more. This mob are nothing more than the self serving Russian mobsters in my humble opinion "

I don’t like the tories but I have a grudging respect for some of their former MPs & ministers, but your right, this shower are the utter dregs, this isn’t a conservative government, it is a ‘Brexit ‘ government

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Simple answer no

Interesting. Did he not meet expectations? he got brexit done job done that was it for me "

He hasn’t though,

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By *oxychick35Couple over a year ago

thornaby

"Simple answer no

Interesting. Did he not meet expectations? he got brexit done job done that was it for me

He hasn’t though, "
aw are we still in the eu then silly me

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Plus the public didn’t and still don’t trust corbyn. And why should they trust a terrorist supporting, Marxist communists bastard.

Corbyn isn’t an option anymore, try again

But Corbyn was when Boris won by a landside Sid. That the point!

No it isn’t, would you vote for him again, try and keep up Bert

Touched a nerve Sid?

I saw your last message, the one you deleted.

Poor form.

What did it say? He obviously wasn’t brave enough to post it

It was fucking vile. I won't repeat it.

Suffice to say, it was against the forum rules.

No it wasn’t mentioned the fact that corbyn supports terrorist and peadophiles, but then so does the Labour Party, oh and not to mention Labour is a racist party.

Cobyn isn’t labour leader anymore, I think your struggling with what the OP is asking, "

No shite Sid I thought he was , oh it Keir isn’t the fellow who let the biggest pedo in UK history off the hook

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Simple answer no

Interesting. Did he not meet expectations? he got brexit done job done that was it for me

He hasn’t though, "

Think you’ll find Boris did Sid, come on keep up sid

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Plus the public didn’t and still don’t trust corbyn. And why should they trust a terrorist supporting, Marxist communists bastard.

Corbyn isn’t an option anymore, try again

But Corbyn was when Boris won by a landside Sid. That the point!

No it isn’t, would you vote for him again, try and keep up Bert

Touched a nerve Sid?

I saw your last message, the one you deleted.

Poor form.

What did it say? He obviously wasn’t brave enough to post it

It was fucking vile. I won't repeat it.

Suffice to say, it was against the forum rules.

No it wasn’t mentioned the fact that corbyn supports terrorist and peadophiles, but then so does the Labour Party, oh and not to mention Labour is a racist party.

Cobyn isn’t labour leader anymore, I think your struggling with what the OP is asking,

No shite Sid I thought he was , oh it Keir isn’t the fellow who let the biggest pedo in UK history off the hook

Ah yes, I remember that now? Sir Jimmy Saville , massive Tory, knighted by thatcher, so, Keith, works you vote for Boris again

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Plus the public didn’t and still don’t trust corbyn. And why should they trust a terrorist supporting, Marxist communists bastard.

Corbyn isn’t an option anymore, try again

But Corbyn was when Boris won by a landside Sid. That the point!

No it isn’t, would you vote for him again, try and keep up Bert

Touched a nerve Sid?

I saw your last message, the one you deleted.

Poor form.

What did it say? He obviously wasn’t brave enough to post it

It was fucking vile. I won't repeat it.

Suffice to say, it was against the forum rules.

No it wasn’t mentioned the fact that corbyn supports terrorist and peadophiles, but then so does the Labour Party, oh and not to mention Labour is a racist party.

Cobyn isn’t labour leader anymore, I think your struggling with what the OP is asking,

No shite Sid I thought he was , oh it Keir isn’t the fellow who let the biggest pedo in UK history off the hook

Ah yes, I remember that now? Sir Jimmy Saville , massive Tory, knighted by thatcher, so, Keith, works you vote for Boris again "

Would

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Plus the public didn’t and still don’t trust corbyn. And why should they trust a terrorist supporting, Marxist communists bastard.

Corbyn isn’t an option anymore, try again

But Corbyn was when Boris won by a landside Sid. That the point!

No it isn’t, would you vote for him again, try and keep up Bert

Touched a nerve Sid?

I saw your last message, the one you deleted.

Poor form.

What did it say? He obviously wasn’t brave enough to post it

It was fucking vile. I won't repeat it.

Suffice to say, it was against the forum rules.

No it wasn’t mentioned the fact that corbyn supports terrorist and peadophiles, but then so does the Labour Party, oh and not to mention Labour is a racist party.

Cobyn isn’t labour leader anymore, I think your struggling with what the OP is asking,

No shite Sid I thought he was , oh it Keir isn’t the fellow who let the biggest pedo in UK history off the hook

Ah yes, I remember that now? Sir Jimmy Saville , massive Tory, knighted by thatcher, so, Keith, works you vote for Boris again

Would "

Keith Sid your losing the plot Sir,

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Plus the public didn’t and still don’t trust corbyn. And why should they trust a terrorist supporting, Marxist communists bastard.

Corbyn isn’t an option anymore, try again

But Corbyn was when Boris won by a landside Sid. That the point!

No it isn’t, would you vote for him again, try and keep up Bert

Touched a nerve Sid?

I saw your last message, the one you deleted.

Poor form.

What did it say? He obviously wasn’t brave enough to post it

It was fucking vile. I won't repeat it.

Suffice to say, it was against the forum rules.

No it wasn’t mentioned the fact that corbyn supports terrorist and peadophiles, but then so does the Labour Party, oh and not to mention Labour is a racist party.

Cobyn isn’t labour leader anymore, I think your struggling with what the OP is asking,

No shite Sid I thought he was , oh it Keir isn’t the fellow who let the biggest pedo in UK history off the hook

Ah yes, I remember that now? Sir Jimmy Saville , massive Tory, knighted by thatcher, so, Keith, works you vote for Boris again

Would

Keith Sid your losing the plot Sir,

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

"Simple answer no

Interesting. Did he not meet expectations? he got brexit done job done that was it for me "

Oh.

Fair enough for being honest though.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

"Plus the public didn’t and still don’t trust corbyn. And why should they trust a terrorist supporting, Marxist communists bastard.

Corbyn isn’t an option anymore, try again

But Corbyn was when Boris won by a landside Sid. That the point!

No it isn’t, would you vote for him again, try and keep up Bert

Touched a nerve Sid?

I saw your last message, the one you deleted.

Poor form.

What did it say? He obviously wasn’t brave enough to post it

It was fucking vile. I won't repeat it.

Suffice to say, it was against the forum rules.

No it wasn’t mentioned the fact that corbyn supports terrorist and peadophiles, but then so does the Labour Party, oh and not to mention Labour is a racist party.

What?

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By *irtylittletramp100TV/TS over a year ago

Notts

and if you say no the op is right and if you say yes youll get bombarded as to why youre wrong lol whod vote for blair again? trump? may? the french one swarkaski? who ended up on charges....

its all the same, politics IS a dirty game! I want my champion to be upto it! I dont want him fighting with queensberry rules and the other guy holding a baton!

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

"and if you say no the op is right and if you say yes youll get bombarded as to why youre wrong lol whod vote for blair again? trump? may? the french one swarkaski? who ended up on charges....

its all the same, politics IS a dirty game! I want my champion to be upto it! I dont want him fighting with queensberry rules and the other guy holding a baton!

But you probably want them to be fighting on behalf of the country, instead of fighting on behalf of their mates & corporate sponsors, and of course their own bank accounts.

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By *uddy laneMan over a year ago

dudley

Politics is all about fear and hatred.

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By *irldnCouple over a year ago

Brighton

"and if you say no the op is right and if you say yes youll get bombarded as to why youre wrong lol whod vote for blair again? trump? may? the french one swarkaski? who ended up on charges....

its all the same, politics IS a dirty game! I want my champion to be upto it! I dont want him fighting with queensberry rules and the other guy holding a baton!

But you probably want them to be fighting on behalf of the country, instead of fighting on behalf of their mates & corporate sponsors, and of course their own bank accounts."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Didn't vote Tory, but nothing has really surprised this term. They got their version of brexit over the line. Not a suprise. It was oven ready. They've made some clumsy decisions in policy. Not a surprise, given the last few months of the previois government. They have been too close to some of their best mates and havent managed conflict of interest. Again, this doesn't feel like it's going against the grain. Whipping thru decisions feels in line with previous.

Covid has been a game changer and forced them to be a bit more socialist like.

And while the NIP drama isn't a suprise, and probably in line with many supporters views, it is a bit odd to want to u turn on a cornerstone manifesto deliverable.

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By *oo hotCouple over a year ago

North West

"Didn't vote Tory, but nothing has really surprised this term. They got their version of brexit over the line. Not a suprise. It was oven ready. They've made some clumsy decisions in policy. Not a surprise, given the last few months of the previois government. They have been too close to some of their best mates and havent managed conflict of interest. Again, this doesn't feel like it's going against the grain. Whipping thru decisions feels in line with previous.

Covid has been a game changer and forced them to be a bit more socialist like.

And while the NIP drama isn't a suprise, and probably in line with many supporters views, it is a bit odd to want to u turn on a cornerstone manifesto deliverable. "

How did they get Brexit done?

I am sure I heard Frost yesterday threatening to trigger A-16 ?

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By *irtylittletramp100TV/TS over a year ago

Notts

"and if you say no the op is right and if you say yes youll get bombarded as to why youre wrong lol whod vote for blair again? trump? may? the french one swarkaski? who ended up on charges....

its all the same, politics IS a dirty game! I want my champion to be upto it! I dont want him fighting with queensberry rules and the other guy holding a baton!

But you probably want them to be fighting on behalf of the country, instead of fighting on behalf of their mates & corporate sponsors, and of course their own bank accounts."

yes and on a white horse and they must not swear or fart either.... you want a bare knuckle fighter they come with certain other qualities... seen jack Nicholson in a few good men? ok i dont want them to turn into tony soprano but i dont want little miss muffet either! well only to fuck

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Covid has been a game changer and forced them to be a bit more socialist like.

And while the NIP drama isn't a suprise, and probably in line with many supporters views, it is a bit odd to want to u turn on a cornerstone manifesto deliverable.

How did they get Brexit done?

I am sure I heard Frost yesterday threatening to trigger A-16 ?

"
that's the NIP drama bit. It was done. They are now seeking to undo it. How do you know what you are voting for when manifestos are so easily broken...

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

"and if you say no the op is right and if you say yes youll get bombarded as to why youre wrong lol whod vote for blair again? trump? may? the french one swarkaski? who ended up on charges....

its all the same, politics IS a dirty game! I want my champion to be upto it! I dont want him fighting with queensberry rules and the other guy holding a baton!

But you probably want them to be fighting on behalf of the country, instead of fighting on behalf of their mates & corporate sponsors, and of course their own bank accounts.

How hard they fight only matters if they're fighting on your behalf.

I'm not a Tory MP, didn't go to Eton with them, and don't own a corporation that donates to, or employs them. So they're not doing anything for me, and the vast majority.

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By *eroy1000Man over a year ago

milton keynes

Covid has been a game changer and forced them to be a bit more socialist like.

And while the NIP drama isn't a suprise, and probably in line with many supporters views, it is a bit odd to want to u turn on a cornerstone manifesto deliverable.

How did they get Brexit done?

I am sure I heard Frost yesterday threatening to trigger A-16 ?

Unless triggering the article 16 somehow makes the UK re join the EU then I don't see how its relevant.

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By *oo hotCouple over a year ago

North West

Covid has been a game changer and forced them to be a bit more socialist like.

And while the NIP drama isn't a suprise, and probably in line with many supporters views, it is a bit odd to want to u turn on a cornerstone manifesto deliverable.

How did they get Brexit done?

I am sure I heard Frost yesterday threatening to trigger A-16 ?

Unless triggering the article 16 somehow makes the UK re join the EU then I don't see how its relevant. "

Triggering A-16 is more likely to collapse the entire Brexit deal once the sanctions kick in - meaning that it never really was “done” in the first place.

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By *V-AliceTV/TS over a year ago

Ayr

Johnson has arguably done things that are far worse. But I'm getting a feeling the Paterson incident might be the tipping point for some.

It'll only be the tipping point for anyone with any integrity or principles.

It terms of Tory MPs, that was about 14% of them. If you extend that to their potential voters - and generously double it - that still leaves you with 72% of Tory voters who don't give a fuck how corrupt the government is because they have no moral compass of their own. So, it's not enough.

It's why they can never be trusted - and if that seems harsh, it's merely a precautionary principle.

If you were in a jungle where you knew 72% of the snakes were deadly, you'd be right to be wary of the 28% that weren't.

Sadly, it's the FPTP system, not the majority of the electorate, that keeps them in power. Until the UK Parliament is elected by PR, these dregs will keep getting elected to power by the conscienceless who vote for them.

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By *irtylittletramp100TV/TS over a year ago

Notts

"and if you say no the op is right and if you say yes youll get bombarded as to why youre wrong lol whod vote for blair again? trump? may? the french one swarkaski? who ended up on charges....

its all the same, politics IS a dirty game! I want my champion to be upto it! I dont want him fighting with queensberry rules and the other guy holding a baton!

But you probably want them to be fighting on behalf of the country, instead of fighting on behalf of their mates & corporate sponsors, and of course their own bank accounts.

How hard they fight only matters if they're fighting on your behalf.

I'm not a Tory MP, didn't go to Eton with them, and don't own a corporation that donates to, or employs them. So they're not doing anything for me, and the vast majority. "

Move to teeside and you might change your mind, we see what the majority think at election time and the majority disagreed with you.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

"and if you say no the op is right and if you say yes youll get bombarded as to why youre wrong lol whod vote for blair again? trump? may? the french one swarkaski? who ended up on charges....

its all the same, politics IS a dirty game! I want my champion to be upto it! I dont want him fighting with queensberry rules and the other guy holding a baton!

But you probably want them to be fighting on behalf of the country, instead of fighting on behalf of their mates & corporate sponsors, and of course their own bank accounts.

How hard they fight only matters if they're fighting on your behalf.

I'm not a Tory MP, didn't go to Eton with them, and don't own a corporation that donates to, or employs them. So they're not doing anything for me, and the vast majority.

Move to teeside and you might change your mind, we see what the majority think at election time and the majority disagreed with you.

Oh I have absolutely no faith that people will vote out the current set of self servicing MPs.

So I'm with you there.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The country will keep voting tory because the majority of print media supports the tories.

Labour is held to a higher standard than the cons. Just look at the massive media attack on Corbyn on the run up to the last election. Even the BBC were on it. They still are as they have Laura K who is practially a tory spokesperson.

The country will also keep voting tory because the problems they have created (housing, NHS, funding etc) is blamed on foreigners. Much easier to convince the public that Pawel (who is a tax paying citizen like the rest of us) is causing problems for GPs and the NHS rather than admit it's due to funding cuts.

Case in point, Cornwall and Wales voted for Brexit yet they recieved the most funds from the EU. They wont get the same funding from the government

Let's not forget the massive targeted adverting there was on facebook by cambridge analytica to dupe people into voting for brexit.

Btw brexit isnt over. We may have left the EU but we're still feeling the pain of it and will continue to do so for many decades.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Wow there has been a hell of a lot of deflection since I asked the question at the top of the thread. As far as I can tell, only 1 person actually answered the question. And they said "no". ie they wouldn't vote for Johnson again.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

And another thing. People will criticise Labour MPs for anything. But if a the Tories do something wrong then they will spout "oh all MPs are bad".

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By *irtylittletramp100TV/TS over a year ago

Notts

"and if you say no the op is right and if you say yes youll get bombarded as to why youre wrong lol whod vote for blair again? trump? may? the french one swarkaski? who ended up on charges....

its all the same, politics IS a dirty game! I want my champion to be upto it! I dont want him fighting with queensberry rules and the other guy holding a baton!

But you probably want them to be fighting on behalf of the country, instead of fighting on behalf of their mates & corporate sponsors, and of course their own bank accounts.

How hard they fight only matters if they're fighting on your behalf.

I'm not a Tory MP, didn't go to Eton with them, and don't own a corporation that donates to, or employs them. So they're not doing anything for me, and the vast majority.

Move to teeside and you might change your mind, we see what the majority think at election time and the majority disagreed with you.

Oh I have absolutely no faith that people will vote out the current set of self servicing MPs.

So I'm with you there."

It's the system we use, but I'm not sure one set of tossers is better than the next....revolution? However the op has a box full of perfect humans waiting in the wings

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"And another thing. People will criticise Labour MPs for anything. But if a the Tories do something wrong then they will spout "oh all MPs are bad". "

It's the standard defence when a politician has done somthing indefensible. (I suspect it's equally likely to be used for an MP of any party. It just so happens that most of the time right now it's the Tories pulling the indefensible shit.)

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By *oi_LucyCouple over a year ago

Barbados

Is "disaster capitalism" in the Tory party manifesto?

Or awarding PPE contracts through nepotism.

Or flushing human shit into the rivers.

Or lying to the queen.

Or lying to the British public

Because of the FPTP voting system we use.

-Matt

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By *eroy1000Man over a year ago

milton keynes

Covid has been a game changer and forced them to be a bit more socialist like.

And while the NIP drama isn't a suprise, and probably in line with many supporters views, it is a bit odd to want to u turn on a cornerstone manifesto deliverable.

How did they get Brexit done?

I am sure I heard Frost yesterday threatening to trigger A-16 ?

Unless triggering the article 16 somehow makes the UK re join the EU then I don't see how its relevant.

Triggering A-16 is more likely to collapse the entire Brexit deal once the sanctions kick in - meaning that it never really was “done” in the first place."

The deal is the relationship between the UK and EU. Without the deal its still brexit but a no deal brexit instead of having a deal brexit. Either way brexit has happened. Brexit is the UK leaving the EU only which has happened

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By *asyukMan over a year ago

West London

What would Johnson have to do to not be voted for again?

Lie?

Be corrupt?

Be incompetent?

Not care about anyone or anything except himself?

Not take responsibility for anything negative?

Be responsible for deaths due to the above?

Cause the break-up of the UK?

Is there anything at all?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"What would Johnson have to do to not be voted for again?

Lie?

Be corrupt?

Be incompetent?

Not care about anyone or anything except himself?

Not take responsibility for anything negative?

Be responsible for deaths due to the above?

Cause the break-up of the UK?

Is there anything at all?"

I've mused along these lines, too. Some of his supporters really do seem to forgive him for anything at all. Their reasoning and excuses get ever more bizarre as he becomes more and more indefensible.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS over a year ago

Horsham

Didn't vote for him back then, glad I won't vote dor him again.

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By *asyukMan over a year ago

West London

"What would Johnson have to do to not be voted for again?

Lie?

Be corrupt?

Be incompetent?

Not care about anyone or anything except himself?

Not take responsibility for anything negative?

Be responsible for deaths due to the above?

Cause the break-up of the UK?

Is there anything at all?

This is not uncommon in general.

O ce you have made a commitment and argued your position vociferously, it's very, very hard to accept that you have been conned because you have to accept the reality of the circumstances.

Intelligwnt people are much better at defending the indefensible, because they're clever. However, this is because they are actually defending their own sense of self-worth and self-perception. Clever people get co ned all the time, but it is far, far harder for them to acknowledge it than for those who are aware that that is not their strongest skill.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"What would Johnson have to do to not be voted for again?

Lie?

Be corrupt?

Be incompetent?

Not care about anyone or anything except himself?

Not take responsibility for anything negative?

Be responsible for deaths due to the above?

Cause the break-up of the UK?

Is there anything at all?"

I'm not a Boris supporter. Or Tory. But I can see that if you have broad ideals in line with conservatives, then you almost have to go blue, regardless of the details. Labour, libs, sno, greens all take a similar space so you can move your vote.... But the lack of an alternative means your are screwed.

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By *irldnCouple over a year ago

Brighton

Boris Johnson led Govt, just a few highlights (remember they have been in less than two years)...

1. Proroguing parliament

2. Crony Covid contracts

3. Cash for peerages

4. Changing tax rules for mates

5. The PM's flat refurb

6. Breaking lockdown rules

7. “Free” holidays

8. Owen Paterson

9. Dominic Cummings

10. Cheltenham

11. Trip to India and then...

12. Keeping Borders Open allowing in Delta

13. PPE

14. Care homes and untested covid patients

And as Mayor...

Garden Bridge

Jennifer Acuri

Etc etc

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By *ercuryMan over a year ago

Grantham

"Boris Johnson led Govt, just a few highlights (remember they have been in less than two years)...

1. Proroguing parliament

2. Crony Covid contracts

3. Cash for peerages

4. Changing tax rules for mates

5. The PM's flat refurb

6. Breaking lockdown rules

7. “Free” holidays

8. Owen Paterson

9. Dominic Cummings

10. Cheltenham

11. Trip to India and then...

12. Keeping Borders Open allowing in Delta

13. PPE

14. Care homes and untested covid patients

And as Mayor...

Garden Bridge

Jennifer Acuri

Etc etc"

Boris Johnson hasn't visited India as Prime Minister.

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By *asyukMan over a year ago

West London

"Boris Johnson led Govt, just a few highlights (remember they have been in less than two years)...

1. Proroguing parliament

2. Crony Covid contracts

3. Cash for peerages

4. Changing tax rules for mates

5. The PM's flat refurb

6. Breaking lockdown rules

7. “Free” holidays

8. Owen Paterson

9. Dominic Cummings

10. Cheltenham

11. Trip to India and then...

12. Keeping Borders Open allowing in Delta

13. PPE

14. Care homes and untested covid patients

And as Mayor...

Garden Bridge

Jennifer Acuri

Etc etc

Boris Johnson hasn't visited India as Prime Minister. "

Boris Johnson wanted to go to India to try to close a trade deal and kept travel to India open during the height of their outbreak to maintain the option and not upset India. That was probably the reference here.

You are usually quite sharp on these things.

You haven't given your opinion on the OPs question

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By *allySlinkyWoman over a year ago

Leeds

Imagine having a popularity rating of minus twenty

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By *asyukMan over a year ago

West London

"Imagine having a popularity rating of minus twenty"

I think that you could live with that if you had some thought and strategy and conviction behind what you were doing.

I do not get the impression that this is anymore than about pride and power, so probably not good.

I expect the Prime Minister will be avoiding responsibility and hiding again...

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By *irldnCouple over a year ago

Brighton

"Boris Johnson led Govt, just a few highlights (remember they have been in less than two years)...

1. Proroguing parliament

2. Crony Covid contracts

3. Cash for peerages

4. Changing tax rules for mates

5. The PM's flat refurb

6. Breaking lockdown rules

7. “Free” holidays

8. Owen Paterson

9. Dominic Cummings

10. Cheltenham

11. Trip to India and then...

12. Keeping Borders Open allowing in Delta

13. PPE

14. Care homes and untested covid patients

And as Mayor...

Garden Bridge

Jennifer Acuri

Etc etc

Boris Johnson hasn't visited India as Prime Minister. "

You gotta love how out of that list you pick one thing implying it is wrong when it is just semantics. Maybe I should have typed...

“The Prime Minister’s trade trip to India that got cancelled on 19 April after increased pressure relating to what came to be called the Delta Variant.”

But that was a bit of a mouthful and “trip to India” had it covered!

Go back and check out the timeline regarding that planned trip and how long they had known about Delta and how long it took to close the border (flights) to and from India. BJ’s inaction allowed Delta to swarm into the UK killing 000s more people.

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By *ercuryMan over a year ago

Grantham

"Boris Johnson led Govt, just a few highlights (remember they have been in less than two years)...

1. Proroguing parliament

2. Crony Covid contracts

3. Cash for peerages

4. Changing tax rules for mates

5. The PM's flat refurb

6. Breaking lockdown rules

7. “Free” holidays

8. Owen Paterson

9. Dominic Cummings

10. Cheltenham

11. Trip to India and then...

12. Keeping Borders Open allowing in Delta

13. PPE

14. Care homes and untested covid patients

And as Mayor...

Garden Bridge

Jennifer Acuri

Etc etc

Boris Johnson hasn't visited India as Prime Minister.

You are usually quite sharp on these things.

You haven't given your opinion on the OPs question

Arguements are usually stronger if the facts are right!

My opinion?

This is a "win at all costs" brexit goverment, thats left many traditional Conservatives appalled. Myself included.

For the first time in 40 years, I didn't vote Conservative in 2019. The writing was on the wall, when honest and traditional Conservatives started to get marginalised and pushed away.

Brexit as a concept was ill-thought out. Its execution has been an unmitigated disaster.

Covid has largely followed that same path but at least there are some mitigations there.

The pattern has continued with "sleaze". It needs stamping out, because we are creating a dangerous whirlpool in politics, where we will all get sucked in, unless we do something to change the system.

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By *asyukMan over a year ago

West London

"Boris Johnson led Govt, just a few highlights (remember they have been in less than two years)...

1. Proroguing parliament

2. Crony Covid contracts

3. Cash for peerages

4. Changing tax rules for mates

5. The PM's flat refurb

6. Breaking lockdown rules

7. “Free” holidays

8. Owen Paterson

9. Dominic Cummings

10. Cheltenham

11. Trip to India and then...

12. Keeping Borders Open allowing in Delta

13. PPE

14. Care homes and untested covid patients

And as Mayor...

Garden Bridge

Jennifer Acuri

Etc etc

Boris Johnson hasn't visited India as Prime Minister.

You are usually quite sharp on these things.

You haven't given your opinion on the OPs question

Arguements are usually stronger if the facts are right!

My opinion?

This is a "win at all costs" brexit goverment, thats left many traditional Conservatives appalled. Myself included.

For the first time in 40 years, I didn't vote Conservative in 2019. The writing was on the wall, when honest and traditional Conservatives started to get marginalised and pushed away.

Brexit as a concept was ill-thought out. Its execution has been an unmitigated disaster.

Covid has largely followed that same path but at least there are some mitigations there.

That was unambiguous and clearly stated

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Boris Johnson led Govt, just a few highlights (remember they have been in less than two years)...

1. Proroguing parliament

2. Crony Covid contracts

3. Cash for peerages

4. Changing tax rules for mates

5. The PM's flat refurb

6. Breaking lockdown rules

7. “Free” holidays

8. Owen Paterson

9. Dominic Cummings

10. Cheltenham

11. Trip to India and then...

12. Keeping Borders Open allowing in Delta

13. PPE

14. Care homes and untested covid patients

And as Mayor...

Garden Bridge

Jennifer Acuri

Etc etc

Boris Johnson hasn't visited India as Prime Minister.

You are usually quite sharp on these things.

You haven't given your opinion on the OPs question

Arguements are usually stronger if the facts are right!

My opinion?

This is a "win at all costs" brexit goverment, thats left many traditional Conservatives appalled. Myself included.

For the first time in 40 years, I didn't vote Conservative in 2019. The writing was on the wall, when honest and traditional Conservatives started to get marginalised and pushed away.

Brexit as a concept was ill-thought out. Its execution has been an unmitigated disaster.

Covid has largely followed that same path but at least there are some mitigations there.

That was unambiguous and clearly stated

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Interesting that not 1 person has said they voted for Johnson before and would vote for him again.

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By *oxychick35Couple over a year ago

thornaby

Covid has been a game changer and forced them to be a bit more socialist like.

And while the NIP drama isn't a suprise, and probably in line with many supporters views, it is a bit odd to want to u turn on a cornerstone manifesto deliverable.

How did they get Brexit done?

I am sure I heard Frost yesterday threatening to trigger A-16 ?

Unless triggering the article 16 somehow makes the UK re join the EU then I don't see how its relevant.

Triggering A-16 is more likely to collapse the entire Brexit deal once the sanctions kick in - meaning that it never really was “done” in the first place."
so is that what you are predicting brexit collapse???

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By *asyukMan over a year ago

West London

Covid has been a game changer and forced them to be a bit more socialist like.

And while the NIP drama isn't a suprise, and probably in line with many supporters views, it is a bit odd to want to u turn on a cornerstone manifesto deliverable.

How did they get Brexit done?

I am sure I heard Frost yesterday threatening to trigger A-16 ?

Unless triggering the article 16 somehow makes the UK re join the EU then I don't see how its relevant.

Triggering A-16 is more likely to collapse the entire Brexit deal once the sanctions kick in - meaning that it never really was “done” in the first place.so is that what you are predicting brexit collapse???"

It would be a "no-deal" Brexit because our own doesn't like what it negotiated and signed.

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By *asyukMan over a year ago

West London

Covid has been a game changer and forced them to be a bit more socialist like.

And while the NIP drama isn't a suprise, and probably in line with many supporters views, it is a bit odd to want to u turn on a cornerstone manifesto deliverable.

How did they get Brexit done?

I am sure I heard Frost yesterday threatening to trigger A-16 ?

Unless triggering the article 16 somehow makes the UK re join the EU then I don't see how its relevant.

You would vote for Johnson again then?

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By *oxychick35Couple over a year ago

thornaby

Covid has been a game changer and forced them to be a bit more socialist like.

And while the NIP drama isn't a suprise, and probably in line with many supporters views, it is a bit odd to want to u turn on a cornerstone manifesto deliverable.

How did they get Brexit done?

I am sure I heard Frost yesterday threatening to trigger A-16 ?

Unless triggering the article 16 somehow makes the UK re join the EU then I don't see how its relevant.

You would vote for Johnson again then?"
no If you have read all the posts you would of seen where I said no mate

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By *asyukMan over a year ago

West London

Covid has been a game changer and forced them to be a bit more socialist like.

And while the NIP drama isn't a suprise, and probably in line with many supporters views, it is a bit odd to want to u turn on a cornerstone manifesto deliverable.

How did they get Brexit done?

I am sure I heard Frost yesterday threatening to trigger A-16 ?

Unless triggering the article 16 somehow makes the UK re join the EU then I don't see how its relevant.

You would vote for Johnson again then?no If you have read all the posts you would of seen where I said no mate "

So, if he is turning out to be a liar and incompetent and he brought you Brexit...or is that a special case? Unconne

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By *asyukMan over a year ago

West London

Covid has been a game changer and forced them to be a bit more socialist like.

And while the NIP drama isn't a suprise, and probably in line with many supporters views, it is a bit odd to want to u turn on a cornerstone manifesto deliverable.

How did they get Brexit done?

I am sure I heard Frost yesterday threatening to trigger A-16 ?

Unless triggering the article 16 somehow makes the UK re join the EU then I don't see how its relevant.

You would vote for Johnson again then?no If you have read all the posts you would of seen where I said no mate

So, if he is turning out to be a liar and incompetent and he brought you Brexit...or is that a special case? Unconne"

Unconnected*

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By *oxychick35Couple over a year ago

thornaby

Covid has been a game changer and forced them to be a bit more socialist like.

And while the NIP drama isn't a suprise, and probably in line with many supporters views, it is a bit odd to want to u turn on a cornerstone manifesto deliverable.

How did they get Brexit done?

I am sure I heard Frost yesterday threatening to trigger A-16 ?

Unless triggering the article 16 somehow makes the UK re join the EU then I don't see how its relevant.

You would vote for Johnson again then?no If you have read all the posts you would of seen where I said no mate

So, if he is turning out to be a liar and incompetent and he brought you Brexit...or is that a special case? Unconne"
if you kept up with the thread I wouldn’t need to tell you but here it goes I voted for him to get brexit done now it’s time for him to fuck off

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By *or Fox SakeCouple over a year ago

Thornaby

Covid has been a game changer and forced them to be a bit more socialist like.

And while the NIP drama isn't a suprise, and probably in line with many supporters views, it is a bit odd to want to u turn on a cornerstone manifesto deliverable.

How did they get Brexit done?

I am sure I heard Frost yesterday threatening to trigger A-16 ?

Unless triggering the article 16 somehow makes the UK re join the EU then I don't see how its relevant.

You would vote for Johnson again then?no If you have read all the posts you would of seen where I said no mate

So, if he is turning out to be a liar and incompetent and he brought you Brexit...or is that a special case? Unconneif you kept up with the thread I wouldn’t need to tell you but here it goes I voted for him to get brexit done now it’s time for him to fuck off "

Sure that "done" would mean he's delivered everything he said he would, has he?

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By *oxychick35Couple over a year ago

thornaby

Covid has been a game changer and forced them to be a bit more socialist like.

And while the NIP drama isn't a suprise, and probably in line with many supporters views, it is a bit odd to want to u turn on a cornerstone manifesto deliverable.

How did they get Brexit done?

I am sure I heard Frost yesterday threatening to trigger A-16 ?

Unless triggering the article 16 somehow makes the UK re join the EU then I don't see how its relevant.

You would vote for Johnson again then?no If you have read all the posts you would of seen where I said no mate

Sure that "done" would mean he's delivered everything he said he would, has he?"
we are out the eu

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By *or Fox SakeCouple over a year ago

Thornaby

Covid has been a game changer and forced them to be a bit more socialist like.

And while the NIP drama isn't a suprise, and probably in line with many supporters views, it is a bit odd to want to u turn on a cornerstone manifesto deliverable.

How did they get Brexit done?

I am sure I heard Frost yesterday threatening to trigger A-16 ?

Unless triggering the article 16 somehow makes the UK re join the EU then I don't see how its relevant.

You would vote for Johnson again then?no If you have read all the posts you would of seen where I said no mate

Sure that "done" would mean he's delivered everything he said he would, has he?we are out the eu "

Yes and as a result poorer.

What brexit promises has delivered?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

Covid has been a game changer and forced them to be a bit more socialist like.

And while the NIP drama isn't a suprise, and probably in line with many supporters views, it is a bit odd to want to u turn on a cornerstone manifesto deliverable.

How did they get Brexit done?

I am sure I heard Frost yesterday threatening to trigger A-16 ?

Unless triggering the article 16 somehow makes the UK re join the EU then I don't see how its relevant.

You would vote for Johnson again then?no If you have read all the posts you would of seen where I said no mate

Sure that "done" would mean he's delivered everything he said he would, has he?"

Pretty much.

He fucked us over so they could dump human shit into the rivers, do trade deals to import sub quality food while fucking over British farmers, destroy the fishing industry and add huge extra costs and red tape to any British businesses who import and export to the EU.

He only very thinly veiled this with the bullshit bus, no one believed that the NHS would even vaguely benefit. We all knew what brexit would bring. So in that sense. He delivered.

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By *oxychick35Couple over a year ago

thornaby

Covid has been a game changer and forced them to be a bit more socialist like.

And while the NIP drama isn't a suprise, and probably in line with many supporters views, it is a bit odd to want to u turn on a cornerstone manifesto deliverable.

How did they get Brexit done?

I am sure I heard Frost yesterday threatening to trigger A-16 ?

Unless triggering the article 16 somehow makes the UK re join the EU then I don't see how its relevant.

You would vote for Johnson again then?no If you have read all the posts you would of seen where I said no mate

Sure that "done" would mean he's delivered everything he said he would, has he?we are out the eu

Yes and as a result poorer.

What brexit promises has delivered?"
im sorry your poorer I’ll buy you a pint if I see you in clubf mate

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By *or Fox SakeCouple over a year ago

Thornaby

Covid has been a game changer and forced them to be a bit more socialist like.

And while the NIP drama isn't a suprise, and probably in line with many supporters views, it is a bit odd to want to u turn on a cornerstone manifesto deliverable.

How did they get Brexit done?

I am sure I heard Frost yesterday threatening to trigger A-16 ?

Unless triggering the article 16 somehow makes the UK re join the EU then I don't see how its relevant.

You would vote for Johnson again then?no If you have read all the posts you would of seen where I said no mate

Sure that "done" would mean he's delivered everything he said he would, has he?we are out the eu

Yes and as a result poorer.

What brexit promises has delivered?im sorry your poorer I’ll buy you a pint if I see you in clubf mate "

So you can't actually respond to the point made, and ClubF doesn't have an alcohol license I believe.

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By *oxychick35Couple over a year ago

thornaby

Covid has been a game changer and forced them to be a bit more socialist like.

And while the NIP drama isn't a suprise, and probably in line with many supporters views, it is a bit odd to want to u turn on a cornerstone manifesto deliverable.

How did they get Brexit done?

I am sure I heard Frost yesterday threatening to trigger A-16 ?

Unless triggering the article 16 somehow makes the UK re join the EU then I don't see how its relevant.

You would vote for Johnson again then?no If you have read all the posts you would of seen where I said no mate

Sure that "done" would mean he's delivered everything he said he would, has he?we are out the eu

Yes and as a result poorer.

What brexit promises has delivered?im sorry your poorer I’ll buy you a pint if I see you in clubf mate

So you can't actually respond to the point made, and ClubF doesn't have an alcohol license I believe."
ok I’ll give ya a can there mite cheer ya up lol like I said we are out that’s why people voted for him

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

Covid has been a game changer and forced them to be a bit more socialist like.

And while the NIP drama isn't a suprise, and probably in line with many supporters views, it is a bit odd to want to u turn on a cornerstone manifesto deliverable.

How did they get Brexit done?

I am sure I heard Frost yesterday threatening to trigger A-16 ?

Unless triggering the article 16 somehow makes the UK re join the EU then I don't see how its relevant.

You would vote for Johnson again then?no If you have read all the posts you would of seen where I said no mate

Sure that "done" would mean he's delivered everything he said he would, has he?we are out the eu

Yes and as a result poorer.

What brexit promises has delivered?im sorry your poorer I’ll buy you a pint if I see you in clubf mate

So you can't actually respond to the point made, and ClubF doesn't have an alcohol license I believe.ok I’ll give ya a can there mite cheer ya up lol like I said we are out that’s why people voted for him "

This makes sense. A Venn diagram showing people who think brexit is a good idea, would have a lot of overlap with people who think Boris is a good PM.

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By *asyukMan over a year ago

West London

Covid has been a game changer and forced them to be a bit more socialist like.

And while the NIP drama isn't a suprise, and probably in line with many supporters views, it is a bit odd to want to u turn on a cornerstone manifesto deliverable.

How did they get Brexit done?

I am sure I heard Frost yesterday threatening to trigger A-16 ?

Unless triggering the article 16 somehow makes the UK re join the EU then I don't see how its relevant.

You would vote for Johnson again then?no If you have read all the posts you would of seen where I said no mate

It is not "done" if we're still negotiating with the EU. This could still be "no deal" rather than just a bad deal. Is your definition of "done" that there was a headline that you read and the liar told you something that you decided to believe? Like George Bush Jr landing on the aircraft carrier with the "Mission Accomplished" in Iraq.

He's a liar. You don't trust him or anything that he does now but you trust what he said that he did and would happen before despite the evidence to the contrary.

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By *or Fox SakeCouple over a year ago

Thornaby

Covid has been a game changer and forced them to be a bit more socialist like.

And while the NIP drama isn't a suprise, and probably in line with many supporters views, it is a bit odd to want to u turn on a cornerstone manifesto deliverable.

How did they get Brexit done?

I am sure I heard Frost yesterday threatening to trigger A-16 ?

Unless triggering the article 16 somehow makes the UK re join the EU then I don't see how its relevant.

You would vote for Johnson again then?no If you have read all the posts you would of seen where I said no mate

Sure that "done" would mean he's delivered everything he said he would, has he?we are out the eu

Yes and as a result poorer.

What brexit promises has delivered?im sorry your poorer I’ll buy you a pint if I see you in clubf mate

And as has been demonstrated, he lied. What attracts you to him?

You said he got brexit done

We are still trying to get trade deals

He's put a border down the Irish sea

He's thrown fishermen over board

Is that getting brexit done?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Covid has been a game changer and forced them to be a bit more socialist like.

And while the NIP drama isn't a suprise, and probably in line with many supporters views, it is a bit odd to want to u turn on a cornerstone manifesto deliverable.

How did they get Brexit done?

I am sure I heard Frost yesterday threatening to trigger A-16 ?

Unless triggering the article 16 somehow makes the UK re join the EU then I don't see how its relevant.

You would vote for Johnson again then?no If you have read all the posts you would of seen where I said no mate

Sure that "done" would mean he's delivered everything he said he would, has he?we are out the eu

Yes and as a result poorer.

What brexit promises has delivered?im sorry your poorer I’ll buy you a pint if I see you in clubf mate

And as has been demonstrated, he lied. What attracts you to him?

You said he got brexit done

We are still trying to get trade deals

He's put a border down the Irish sea

He's thrown fishermen over board

Is that getting brexit done?"

He's thrown fishermen over board????

Really must of missed that one Boris tossing fishermen off

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Covid has been a game changer and forced them to be a bit more socialist like.

And while the NIP drama isn't a suprise, and probably in line with many supporters views, it is a bit odd to want to u turn on a cornerstone manifesto deliverable.

How did they get Brexit done?

I am sure I heard Frost yesterday threatening to trigger A-16 ?

Unless triggering the article 16 somehow makes the UK re join the EU then I don't see how its relevant.

You would vote for Johnson again then?no If you have read all the posts you would of seen where I said no mate

Sure that "done" would mean he's delivered everything he said he would, has he?we are out the eu

Yes and as a result poorer.

What brexit promises has delivered?im sorry your poorer I’ll buy you a pint if I see you in clubf mate

And as has been demonstrated, he lied. What attracts you to him?

You said he got brexit done

We are still trying to get trade deals

He's put a border down the Irish sea

He's thrown fishermen over board

Is that getting brexit done?

He's thrown fishermen over board????

Really must of missed that one Boris tossing fishermen off

Johnson did that so he could get to their wives before the fishermen could swim all the way back.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Covid has been a game changer and forced them to be a bit more socialist like.

And while the NIP drama isn't a suprise, and probably in line with many supporters views, it is a bit odd to want to u turn on a cornerstone manifesto deliverable.

How did they get Brexit done?

I am sure I heard Frost yesterday threatening to trigger A-16 ?

Unless triggering the article 16 somehow makes the UK re join the EU then I don't see how its relevant.

You would vote for Johnson again then?no If you have read all the posts you would of seen where I said no mate

Sure that "done" would mean he's delivered everything he said he would, has he?we are out the eu

Yes and as a result poorer.

What brexit promises has delivered?im sorry your poorer I’ll buy you a pint if I see you in clubf mate

And as has been demonstrated, he lied. What attracts you to him?

You said he got brexit done

We are still trying to get trade deals

He's put a border down the Irish sea

He's thrown fishermen over board

Is that getting brexit done?

He's thrown fishermen over board????

Really must of missed that one Boris tossing fishermen off

Johnson did that so he could get to their wives before the fishermen could swim all the way back."

Wow you really have an issue with Boris don’t you?

Have you considered counselling

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By *or Fox SakeCouple over a year ago

Thornaby

Covid has been a game changer and forced them to be a bit more socialist like.

And while the NIP drama isn't a suprise, and probably in line with many supporters views, it is a bit odd to want to u turn on a cornerstone manifesto deliverable.

How did they get Brexit done?

I am sure I heard Frost yesterday threatening to trigger A-16 ?

Unless triggering the article 16 somehow makes the UK re join the EU then I don't see how its relevant.

You would vote for Johnson again then?no If you have read all the posts you would of seen where I said no mate

Sure that "done" would mean he's delivered everything he said he would, has he?we are out the eu

Yes and as a result poorer.

What brexit promises has delivered?im sorry your poorer I’ll buy you a pint if I see you in clubf mate

And as has been demonstrated, he lied. What attracts you to him?

You said he got brexit done

We are still trying to get trade deals

He's put a border down the Irish sea

He's thrown fishermen over board

Is that getting brexit done?

He's thrown fishermen over board????

Really must of missed that one Boris tossing fishermen off

Ba-dum-tish

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Covid has been a game changer and forced them to be a bit more socialist like.

And while the NIP drama isn't a suprise, and probably in line with many supporters views, it is a bit odd to want to u turn on a cornerstone manifesto deliverable.

How did they get Brexit done?

I am sure I heard Frost yesterday threatening to trigger A-16 ?

Unless triggering the article 16 somehow makes the UK re join the EU then I don't see how its relevant.

You would vote for Johnson again then?no If you have read all the posts you would of seen where I said no mate

Sure that "done" would mean he's delivered everything he said he would, has he?we are out the eu

Yes and as a result poorer.

What brexit promises has delivered?im sorry your poorer I’ll buy you a pint if I see you in clubf mate

And as has been demonstrated, he lied. What attracts you to him?

You said he got brexit done

We are still trying to get trade deals

He's put a border down the Irish sea

He's thrown fishermen over board

Is that getting brexit done?

He's thrown fishermen over board????

Really must of missed that one Boris tossing fishermen off

Johnson did that so he could get to their wives before the fishermen could swim all the way back.

Wow you really have an issue with Boris don’t you?

Have you considered counselling

Um... it was a joke.

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By *or Fox SakeCouple over a year ago

Thornaby

Covid has been a game changer and forced them to be a bit more socialist like.

And while the NIP drama isn't a suprise, and probably in line with many supporters views, it is a bit odd to want to u turn on a cornerstone manifesto deliverable.

How did they get Brexit done?

I am sure I heard Frost yesterday threatening to trigger A-16 ?

Unless triggering the article 16 somehow makes the UK re join the EU then I don't see how its relevant.

You would vote for Johnson again then?no If you have read all the posts you would of seen where I said no mate

Sure that "done" would mean he's delivered everything he said he would, has he?we are out the eu

Yes and as a result poorer.

What brexit promises has delivered?im sorry your poorer I’ll buy you a pint if I see you in clubf mate

And as has been demonstrated, he lied. What attracts you to him?

You said he got brexit done

We are still trying to get trade deals

He's put a border down the Irish sea

He's thrown fishermen over board

Is that getting brexit done?

He's thrown fishermen over board????

Really must of missed that one Boris tossing fishermen off

Johnson did that so he could get to their wives before the fishermen could swim all the way back.

Wow you really have an issue with Boris don’t you?

Have you considered counselling

What first attracted you to the serial liar sex pest?

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By *oxychick35Couple over a year ago

thornaby

Covid has been a game changer and forced them to be a bit more socialist like.

And while the NIP drama isn't a suprise, and probably in line with many supporters views, it is a bit odd to want to u turn on a cornerstone manifesto deliverable.

How did they get Brexit done?

I am sure I heard Frost yesterday threatening to trigger A-16 ?

Unless triggering the article 16 somehow makes the UK re join the EU then I don't see how its relevant.

You would vote for Johnson again then?no If you have read all the posts you would of seen where I said no mate

Sure that "done" would mean he's delivered everything he said he would, has he?we are out the eu

Yes and as a result poorer.

What brexit promises has delivered?im sorry your poorer I’ll buy you a pint if I see you in clubf mate

And as has been demonstrated, he lied. What attracts you to him?

You said he got brexit done

We are still trying to get trade deals

He's put a border down the Irish sea

He's thrown fishermen over board

Is that getting brexit done?

He's thrown fishermen over board????

Really must of missed that one Boris tossing fishermen off

Johnson did that so he could get to their wives before the fishermen could swim all the way back.

Wow you really have an issue with Boris don’t you?

Have you considered counselling

What first attracted you to the serial liar sex pest?"
are we out of the eu?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

Covid has been a game changer and forced them to be a bit more socialist like.

And while the NIP drama isn't a suprise, and probably in line with many supporters views, it is a bit odd to want to u turn on a cornerstone manifesto deliverable.

How did they get Brexit done?

I am sure I heard Frost yesterday threatening to trigger A-16 ?

Unless triggering the article 16 somehow makes the UK re join the EU then I don't see how its relevant.

You would vote for Johnson again then?no If you have read all the posts you would of seen where I said no mate

Sure that "done" would mean he's delivered everything he said he would, has he?we are out the eu

Yes and as a result poorer.

What brexit promises has delivered?im sorry your poorer I’ll buy you a pint if I see you in clubf mate

And as has been demonstrated, he lied. What attracts you to him?

You said he got brexit done

We are still trying to get trade deals

He's put a border down the Irish sea

He's thrown fishermen over board

Is that getting brexit done?

He's thrown fishermen over board????

Really must of missed that one Boris tossing fishermen off

Johnson did that so he could get to their wives before the fishermen could swim all the way back.

Wow you really have an issue with Boris don’t you?

Have you considered counselling

What first attracted you to the serial liar sex pest?are we out of the eu?"

That brings up a good point. Which is more damaging for Britain. Brexit, or Boris?

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By *or Fox SakeCouple over a year ago

Thornaby

Covid has been a game changer and forced them to be a bit more socialist like.

And while the NIP drama isn't a suprise, and probably in line with many supporters views, it is a bit odd to want to u turn on a cornerstone manifesto deliverable.

How did they get Brexit done?

I am sure I heard Frost yesterday threatening to trigger A-16 ?

Unless triggering the article 16 somehow makes the UK re join the EU then I don't see how its relevant.

You would vote for Johnson again then?no If you have read all the posts you would of seen where I said no mate

Sure that "done" would mean he's delivered everything he said he would, has he?we are out the eu

Yes and as a result poorer.

What brexit promises has delivered?im sorry your poorer I’ll buy you a pint if I see you in clubf mate

And as has been demonstrated, he lied. What attracts you to him?

You said he got brexit done

We are still trying to get trade deals

He's put a border down the Irish sea

He's thrown fishermen over board

Is that getting brexit done?

He's thrown fishermen over board????

Really must of missed that one Boris tossing fishermen off

Johnson did that so he could get to their wives before the fishermen could swim all the way back.

Wow you really have an issue with Boris don’t you?

Have you considered counselling

What first attracted you to the serial liar sex pest?are we out of the eu?"

Yes and as a result we are all poorer, have a border down the Irish sea.

If brexit is that good, list the tangible benefits.

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By *asyukMan over a year ago

West London

There is no point asking what the benefit of Brexit is, because over the chosen 50 year period there is no way to know

What is more interesting, in the context of this thread is what makes BoJo more unreliable now than before? More power and therefore more opportunity to to cause chaos.

However, why does that not apply to what he has said and done before now? Was what he did truthful and positive before then?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

"There is no point asking what the benefit of Brexit is, because over the chosen 50 year period there is no way to know

What is more interesting, in the context of this thread is what makes BoJo more unreliable now than before? More power and therefore more opportunity to to cause chaos.

However, why does that not apply to what he has said and done before now? Was what he did truthful and positive before then?"

He was sometimes funny on HIGNFY

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By *irtylittletramp100TV/TS over a year ago

Notts

before you ask what is more damaging boris or brexit grasshopper, you should ask what have you contributed to world for you can control your own actions much easier than that of others, hiiiiya

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

"before you ask what is more damaging boris or brexit grasshopper, you should ask what have you contributed to world for you can control your own actions much easier than that of others, hiiiiya

Erm. I'm doing fine thanks. But that doesn't magically polish either the brexit turd, or Boris's reign (of river flows) of shit.

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By *oxychick35Couple over a year ago

thornaby

Covid has been a game changer and forced them to be a bit more socialist like.

And while the NIP drama isn't a suprise, and probably in line with many supporters views, it is a bit odd to want to u turn on a cornerstone manifesto deliverable.

How did they get Brexit done?

I am sure I heard Frost yesterday threatening to trigger A-16 ?

Unless triggering the article 16 somehow makes the UK re join the EU then I don't see how its relevant.

You would vote for Johnson again then?no If you have read all the posts you would of seen where I said no mate

Sure that "done" would mean he's delivered everything he said he would, has he?we are out the eu

Yes and as a result poorer.

What brexit promises has delivered?im sorry your poorer I’ll buy you a pint if I see you in clubf mate

And as has been demonstrated, he lied. What attracts you to him?

You said he got brexit done

We are still trying to get trade deals

He's put a border down the Irish sea

He's thrown fishermen over board

Is that getting brexit done?

He's thrown fishermen over board????

Really must of missed that one Boris tossing fishermen off

Johnson did that so he could get to their wives before the fishermen could swim all the way back.

Wow you really have an issue with Boris don’t you?

Have you considered counselling

What first attracted you to the serial liar sex pest?are we out of the eu?

Yes and as a result we are all poorer, have a border down the Irish sea.

If brexit is that good, list the tangible benefits."
like I said I’ll buy you a drink if your poorer mate what’s your tipple

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By *or Fox SakeCouple over a year ago

Thornaby

Covid has been a game changer and forced them to be a bit more socialist like.

And while the NIP drama isn't a suprise, and probably in line with many supporters views, it is a bit odd to want to u turn on a cornerstone manifesto deliverable.

How did they get Brexit done?

I am sure I heard Frost yesterday threatening to trigger A-16 ?

Unless triggering the article 16 somehow makes the UK re join the EU then I don't see how its relevant.

You would vote for Johnson again then?no If you have read all the posts you would of seen where I said no mate

Sure that "done" would mean he's delivered everything he said he would, has he?we are out the eu

Yes and as a result poorer.

What brexit promises has delivered?im sorry your poorer I’ll buy you a pint if I see you in clubf mate

And as has been demonstrated, he lied. What attracts you to him?

You said he got brexit done

We are still trying to get trade deals

He's put a border down the Irish sea

He's thrown fishermen over board

Is that getting brexit done?

He's thrown fishermen over board????

Really must of missed that one Boris tossing fishermen off

Johnson did that so he could get to their wives before the fishermen could swim all the way back.

Wow you really have an issue with Boris don’t you?

Have you considered counselling

What first attracted you to the serial liar sex pest?are we out of the eu?

Yes and as a result we are all poorer, have a border down the Irish sea.

If brexit is that good, list the tangible benefits. like I said I’ll buy you a drink if your poorer mate what’s your tipple "

Again, you can't answer the questions. Are you "The Costa of the North?"

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By *oxychick35Couple over a year ago

thornaby

Covid has been a game changer and forced them to be a bit more socialist like.

And while the NIP drama isn't a suprise, and probably in line with many supporters views, it is a bit odd to want to u turn on a cornerstone manifesto deliverable.

How did they get Brexit done?

I am sure I heard Frost yesterday threatening to trigger A-16 ?

Unless triggering the article 16 somehow makes the UK re join the EU then I don't see how its relevant.

You would vote for Johnson again then?no If you have read all the posts you would of seen where I said no mate

Sure that "done" would mean he's delivered everything he said he would, has he?we are out the eu

Yes and as a result poorer.

What brexit promises has delivered?im sorry your poorer I’ll buy you a pint if I see you in clubf mate

And as has been demonstrated, he lied. What attracts you to him?

You said he got brexit done

We are still trying to get trade deals

He's put a border down the Irish sea

He's thrown fishermen over board

Is that getting brexit done?

He's thrown fishermen over board????

Really must of missed that one Boris tossing fishermen off

Johnson did that so he could get to their wives before the fishermen could swim all the way back.

Wow you really have an issue with Boris don’t you?

Have you considered counselling

What first attracted you to the serial liar sex pest?are we out of the eu?

Yes and as a result we are all poorer, have a border down the Irish sea.

If brexit is that good, list the tangible benefits. like I said I’ll buy you a drink if your poorer mate what’s your tipple

Again, you can't answer the questions. Are you "The Costa of the North?""
if you have read all the posts you would see I answered the thread is about would you vote for him again iv said no is that clear enough are you the Lionel of the north ?

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By *or Fox SakeCouple over a year ago

Thornaby

Covid has been a game changer and forced them to be a bit more socialist like.

And while the NIP drama isn't a suprise, and probably in line with many supporters views, it is a bit odd to want to u turn on a cornerstone manifesto deliverable.

How did they get Brexit done?

I am sure I heard Frost yesterday threatening to trigger A-16 ?

Unless triggering the article 16 somehow makes the UK re join the EU then I don't see how its relevant.

You would vote for Johnson again then?no If you have read all the posts you would of seen where I said no mate

Sure that "done" would mean he's delivered everything he said he would, has he?we are out the eu

Yes and as a result poorer.

What brexit promises has delivered?im sorry your poorer I’ll buy you a pint if I see you in clubf mate

And as has been demonstrated, he lied. What attracts you to him?

You said he got brexit done

We are still trying to get trade deals

He's put a border down the Irish sea

He's thrown fishermen over board

Is that getting brexit done?

He's thrown fishermen over board????

Really must of missed that one Boris tossing fishermen off

Johnson did that so he could get to their wives before the fishermen could swim all the way back.

Wow you really have an issue with Boris don’t you?

Have you considered counselling

What first attracted you to the serial liar sex pest?are we out of the eu?

Yes and as a result we are all poorer, have a border down the Irish sea.

If brexit is that good, list the tangible benefits. like I said I’ll buy you a drink if your poorer mate what’s your tipple

Again, you can't answer the questions. Are you "The Costa of the North?"if you have read all the posts you would see I answered the thread is about would you vote for him again iv said no is that clear enough are you the Lionel of the north ?"

So you accept he and his government are liars, but trust him on Freeport's?

How odd.

And who is Lionel?

More odd.

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By *irtylittletramp100TV/TS over a year ago

Notts

"before you ask what is more damaging boris or brexit grasshopper, you should ask what have you contributed to world for you can control your own actions much easier than that of others, hiiiiya

Erm. I'm doing fine thanks. But that doesn't magically polish either the brexit turd, or Boris's reign (of river flows) of shit."

Grasshopper you have eyes but do not see, ears but do not listen.....

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

"before you ask what is more damaging boris or brexit grasshopper, you should ask what have you contributed to world for you can control your own actions much easier than that of others, hiiiiya

Erm. I'm doing fine thanks. But that doesn't magically polish either the brexit turd, or Boris's reign (of river flows) of shit.

Grasshopper you have eyes but do not see, ears but do not listen.....

First off. I like that I have a pet name "grasshopper".

Secondly, sure, I don't see or hear everything. But I am aware of what's going on in the UK to a degree.

Is there a secret upside to Johnson as a PM, or to Brexit? Something we're not being told. And does it out weigh the rivers of shit, and the giant brexit turd that the Tories dumped onto is all?

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By *irtylittletramp100TV/TS over a year ago

Notts

"before you ask what is more damaging boris or brexit grasshopper, you should ask what have you contributed to world for you can control your own actions much easier than that of others, hiiiiya

Erm. I'm doing fine thanks. But that doesn't magically polish either the brexit turd, or Boris's reign (of river flows) of shit.

Grasshopper you have eyes but do not see, ears but do not listen.....

First off. I like that I have a pet name "grasshopper".

Secondly, sure, I don't see or hear everything. But I am aware of what's going on in the UK to a degree.

Is there a secret upside to Johnson as a PM, or to Brexit? Something we're not being told. And does it out weigh the rivers of shit, and the giant brexit turd that the Tories dumped onto is all?"

In those flashbacks, Master Po calls his young student "Grasshopper," given from a playful lesson he taught to Caine as a child about being aware of the world around him, including the grasshopper that happened to be at his feet at that moment.

you have failed to notice the grasshopper.....

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

"before you ask what is more damaging boris or brexit grasshopper, you should ask what have you contributed to world for you can control your own actions much easier than that of others, hiiiiya

Erm. I'm doing fine thanks. But that doesn't magically polish either the brexit turd, or Boris's reign (of river flows) of shit.

Grasshopper you have eyes but do not see, ears but do not listen.....

First off. I like that I have a pet name "grasshopper".

Secondly, sure, I don't see or hear everything. But I am aware of what's going on in the UK to a degree.

Is there a secret upside to Johnson as a PM, or to Brexit? Something we're not being told. And does it out weigh the rivers of shit, and the giant brexit turd that the Tories dumped onto is all?

you have failed to notice the grasshopper.....

Excellent.

Does this mean Boris has secretly polished the brexit turd, and no one except you knows about it?

Will there be a big reveal?

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By *irldnCouple over a year ago

Brighton

And the corruption continues to be revealed...

Geoffrey Cox MP spent April, while Brits were still under lockdown rules, in the Caribbean, voting in parliament over Zoom, earning £100,000s representing a tax haven island “against the British state” over corruption claims!

Daily Mail no less...

"A Whitehall insider said: ‘While he should have been in the UK working for his constituents he’s been over in the British Virgin Islands doing his second job working as a barrister and advising those accused of trousering cash for their mates.’"

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By *V-AliceTV/TS over a year ago

Ayr

"Interesting that not 1 person has said they voted for Johnson before and would vote for him again."

They might just be lying. Clearly, a lot of them did it last time to get Brexit done - but a lot of them do it as a matter of course.

Their most faithful mouthpiece on here justified (in his own mind, at least) voting Tory by saying it was what was best for his family and children.

Too spineless to own what he really is, using his loved ones as an excuse, in a desperate attempt to convince anyone at all, that he isn't 100% behind all they do. If you think that's harsh, look at his track record. By his posts shall ye know him.

Unless he didn't really mean any of it. A notion even more ridiculous than he is.

If you knowingly vote for a Party whose policies increase child poverty and hunger, in the UK - as well as the Third World - simply because you care more about your own (which ALL non-Tory voters do, by the way) - then you are part of a minority, devoid of empathy and conscience, frequently considered despicable ...

and you should not be surprised when the words most often used to describe you are vile insults.

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By *lex46TV/TS over a year ago

Near Wells

"Interesting that not 1 person has said they voted for Johnson before and would vote for him again.

They might just be lying. Clearly, a lot of them did it last time to get Brexit done - but a lot of them do it as a matter of course.

Their most faithful mouthpiece on here justified (in his own mind, at least) voting Tory by saying it was what was best for his family and children.

Unless he didn't really mean any of it. A notion even more ridiculous than he is.

and you should not be surprised when the words most often used to describe you are vile insults."

I honestly don't know the answer to this but did child hunger and poverty and the UK and the third world decrease between 1997-2010?

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By *asyukMan over a year ago

West London

"And the corruption continues to be revealed...

Daily Mail no less...

This does not, actually, seem corrupt to me.

Transparent, paid work external to his work as an MP and not either illegal or medically irresponsible to be working in the BVI.

There is no indication that he didn't carry out his constituency duties.

Unless he was using his government contacts inappropriately, I don't actually it's not corrupt, just mildy annoying.

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By *or Fox SakeCouple over a year ago

Thornaby

"And the corruption continues to be revealed...

Daily Mail no less...

This does not, actually, seem corrupt to me.

Transparent, paid work external to his work as an MP and not either illegal or medically irresponsible to be working in the BVI.

There is no indication that he didn't carry out his constituency duties.

Unless he was using his government contacts inappropriately, I don't actually it's not corrupt, just mildy annoying."

Not financially, morally ?

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By *asyukMan over a year ago

West London

"And the corruption continues to be revealed...

Daily Mail no less...

This does not, actually, seem corrupt to me.

Transparent, paid work external to his work as an MP and not either illegal or medically irresponsible to be working in the BVI.

There is no indication that he didn't carry out his constituency duties.

Unless he was using his government contacts inappropriately, I don't actually it's not corrupt, just mildy annoying.

Not financially, morally ?"

Not convinced about that either. An MP who is a human rights lawyer acting against the government would be fine for you, but outrage a Daily Mail reader.

He is probably being paid the going rate for a QC doing that work.

If he was carrying out his constituency work, then also fine.

It may not be a good look in some ways, but he is not doing anything inappropriate.

This is more an overreach of outrage than sleaze or corruption. Do we stop MPs from practicing as doctors or writing books too?

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By *irldnCouple over a year ago

Brighton

"And the corruption continues to be revealed...

Daily Mail no less...

This does not, actually, seem corrupt to me.

Transparent, paid work external to his work as an MP and not either illegal or medically irresponsible to be working in the BVI.

There is no indication that he didn't carry out his constituency duties.

Unless he was using his government contacts inappropriately, I don't actually it's not corrupt, just mildy annoying.

Not financially, morally ?

Not convinced about that either. An MP who is a human rights lawyer acting against the government would be fine for you, but outrage a Daily Mail reader.

He is probably being paid the going rate for a QC doing that work.

If he was carrying out his constituency work, then also fine.

It may not be a good look in some ways, but he is not doing anything inappropriate.

This is more an overreach of outrage than sleaze or corruption. Do we stop MPs from practicing as doctors or writing books too?"

Interesting take but I would argue that his position as an MP and Attorney General eould give him privileged access to information that would result in a conflict of interest when representing BVI in tax haven and tax evasion aiding and abetting. ie supporting a “regime” that is not to the benefit of the UK or his constituents.

Plus he travelled abroad when most of us couldn’t!

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

"Do we stop MPs from practicing as doctors or writing books too?"

If the MP has influence of something like art grants that apply to authors as well as artists. Then there is a conflict of interest if they apply for the grant for their book.

There is a different way of dealing with it.

But there should be a way to stop nepotism and self serving politics.

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By *irtylittletramp100TV/TS over a year ago

Notts

"before you ask what is more damaging boris or brexit grasshopper, you should ask what have you contributed to world for you can control your own actions much easier than that of others, hiiiiya

Erm. I'm doing fine thanks. But that doesn't magically polish either the brexit turd, or Boris's reign (of river flows) of shit.

Grasshopper you have eyes but do not see, ears but do not listen.....

First off. I like that I have a pet name "grasshopper".

Secondly, sure, I don't see or hear everything. But I am aware of what's going on in the UK to a degree.

Is there a secret upside to Johnson as a PM, or to Brexit? Something we're not being told. And does it out weigh the rivers of shit, and the giant brexit turd that the Tories dumped onto is all?

you have failed to notice the grasshopper.....

Excellent.

Does this mean Boris has secretly polished the brexit turd, and no one except you knows about it?

Will there be a big reveal?"

No it appears you are still blind and have been kicked out of monk training for being blinkered

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

"before you ask what is more damaging boris or brexit grasshopper, you should ask what have you contributed to world for you can control your own actions much easier than that of others, hiiiiya

Erm. I'm doing fine thanks. But that doesn't magically polish either the brexit turd, or Boris's reign (of river flows) of shit.

Grasshopper you have eyes but do not see, ears but do not listen.....

First off. I like that I have a pet name "grasshopper".

Secondly, sure, I don't see or hear everything. But I am aware of what's going on in the UK to a degree.

Is there a secret upside to Johnson as a PM, or to Brexit? Something we're not being told. And does it out weigh the rivers of shit, and the giant brexit turd that the Tories dumped onto is all?

you have failed to notice the grasshopper.....

Excellent.

Does this mean Boris has secretly polished the brexit turd, and no one except you knows about it?

Will there be a big reveal?

No it appears you are still blind and have been kicked out of monk training for being blinkered

Free lance grasshopper?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"What would Johnson have to do to not be voted for again?

Lie?

Be corrupt?

Be incompetent?

Not care about anyone or anything except himself?

Not take responsibility for anything negative?

Be responsible for deaths due to the above?

Cause the break-up of the UK?

Is there anything at all?

This is what happens with a cult.

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By *asyukMan over a year ago

West London

"And the corruption continues to be revealed...

Daily Mail no less...

This does not, actually, seem corrupt to me.

Transparent, paid work external to his work as an MP and not either illegal or medically irresponsible to be working in the BVI.

There is no indication that he didn't carry out his constituency duties.

Unless he was using his government contacts inappropriately, I don't actually it's not corrupt, just mildy annoying.

Not financially, morally ?

Not convinced about that either. An MP who is a human rights lawyer acting against the government would be fine for you, but outrage a Daily Mail reader.

He is probably being paid the going rate for a QC doing that work.

If he was carrying out his constituency work, then also fine.

It may not be a good look in some ways, but he is not doing anything inappropriate.

This is more an overreach of outrage than sleaze or corruption. Do we stop MPs from practicing as doctors or writing books too?

Plus he travelled abroad when most of us couldn’t! "

You are making a non-neutral value judgement.

He is a former Attorney General. He cannot be made to forget what he k kws, but he should not have privileged access. This has not been raised though.

There was absolutely nothing illegal or underhand about the case. It's a legal argument like any other and you could argue that representing a refugee was "against the interest" of the UK or constitutents if so inclined.

We could travel to the BVI if we could afford to then.

Tbis is confected outrage, even though I don't like him much.

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By *irtylittletramp100TV/TS over a year ago

Notts

"before you ask what is more damaging boris or brexit grasshopper, you should ask what have you contributed to world for you can control your own actions much easier than that of others, hiiiiya

Erm. I'm doing fine thanks. But that doesn't magically polish either the brexit turd, or Boris's reign (of river flows) of shit.

Grasshopper you have eyes but do not see, ears but do not listen.....

First off. I like that I have a pet name "grasshopper".

Secondly, sure, I don't see or hear everything. But I am aware of what's going on in the UK to a degree.

Is there a secret upside to Johnson as a PM, or to Brexit? Something we're not being told. And does it out weigh the rivers of shit, and the giant brexit turd that the Tories dumped onto is all?

you have failed to notice the grasshopper.....

Excellent.

Does this mean Boris has secretly polished the brexit turd, and no one except you knows about it?

Will there be a big reveal?

No it appears you are still blind and have been kicked out of monk training for being blinkered

Free lance grasshopper?"

Sorry, you've not found enlightenment and a wider understanding of your world, I'll prey for you

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

"before you ask what is more damaging boris or brexit grasshopper, you should ask what have you contributed to world for you can control your own actions much easier than that of others, hiiiiya

Erm. I'm doing fine thanks. But that doesn't magically polish either the brexit turd, or Boris's reign (of river flows) of shit.

Grasshopper you have eyes but do not see, ears but do not listen.....

First off. I like that I have a pet name "grasshopper".

Secondly, sure, I don't see or hear everything. But I am aware of what's going on in the UK to a degree.

Is there a secret upside to Johnson as a PM, or to Brexit? Something we're not being told. And does it out weigh the rivers of shit, and the giant brexit turd that the Tories dumped onto is all?

you have failed to notice the grasshopper.....

Excellent.

Does this mean Boris has secretly polished the brexit turd, and no one except you knows about it?

Will there be a big reveal?

No it appears you are still blind and have been kicked out of monk training for being blinkered

Free lance grasshopper?

Sorry, you've not found enlightenment and a wider understanding of your world, I'll prey for you

Thanks for your concern. I'm all good and well though, despite the brexit turd that the Tories dumped onto us.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

So... has anybody said they voted for Johnson before and would do again?

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By *asyukMan over a year ago

West London

"And the corruption continues to be revealed...

Daily Mail no less...

This does not, actually, seem corrupt to me.

Transparent, paid work external to his work as an MP and not either illegal or medically irresponsible to be working in the BVI.

There is no indication that he didn't carry out his constituency duties.

Unless he was using his government contacts inappropriately, I don't actually it's not corrupt, just mildy annoying.

Not financially, morally ?

Not convinced about that either. An MP who is a human rights lawyer acting against the government would be fine for you, but outrage a Daily Mail reader.

He is probably being paid the going rate for a QC doing that work.

If he was carrying out his constituency work, then also fine.

It may not be a good look in some ways, but he is not doing anything inappropriate.

This is more an overreach of outrage than sleaze or corruption. Do we stop MPs from practicing as doctors or writing books too?

Plus he travelled abroad when most of us couldn’t!

You are making a non-neutral value judgement.

He is a former Attorney General. He cannot be made to forget what he k kws, but he should not have privileged access. This has not been raised though.

We could travel to the BVI if we could afford to then.

Tbis is confected outrage, even though I don't like him much."

...although he has now been referred for using his Parliamentary office for private work, so some sanction due, but for a relatively minor infraction.

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By *irldnCouple over a year ago

Brighton

"And the corruption continues to be revealed...

Daily Mail no less...

This does not, actually, seem corrupt to me.

Transparent, paid work external to his work as an MP and not either illegal or medically irresponsible to be working in the BVI.

There is no indication that he didn't carry out his constituency duties.

Unless he was using his government contacts inappropriately, I don't actually it's not corrupt, just mildy annoying.

Not financially, morally ?

Not convinced about that either. An MP who is a human rights lawyer acting against the government would be fine for you, but outrage a Daily Mail reader.

He is probably being paid the going rate for a QC doing that work.

If he was carrying out his constituency work, then also fine.

It may not be a good look in some ways, but he is not doing anything inappropriate.

This is more an overreach of outrage than sleaze or corruption. Do we stop MPs from practicing as doctors or writing books too?

Plus he travelled abroad when most of us couldn’t!

You are making a non-neutral value judgement.

He is a former Attorney General. He cannot be made to forget what he k kws, but he should not have privileged access. This has not been raised though.

We could travel to the BVI if we could afford to then.

Tbis is confected outrage, even though I don't like him much.

...although he has now been referred for using his Parliamentary office for private work, so some sanction due, but for a relatively minor infraction."

There are plenty of things in life that are not illegal, such as tax avoidance, that are nonetheless considered morally wrong. If an MP earns £82k to represent a rural farming community in Devon but also earns £900k doing work for a British Overseas Territory Govt, which will be their priority? Can you be assured that being an MP and Attorney General did not provide access to privileged information to help him in his activities with the BOT? If someone can earn almost £1m a year from their “second job” you have to ask what the benefit is of their “primary job”. Is it to gain contacts, influence and access (to people and info) and are taxpayers really getting value for money from his activities as an MP?

When the “side hustle” pays over 10 times the primary job, it cannot be deemed a side hustle.

The Guardian...

“Most of Cox’s constituents would expect him to see their welfare, and that of the communities in Torridge and West Devon, as his main concern. If he isn’t prepared to do that – if he wants to be off arguing cases in tax havens – he shouldn’t be an MP.”

However, this is all actually a useful distraction from Johnson and the obvious improprieties he is responsible for!

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By *allySlinkyWoman over a year ago

Leeds

There is video evidence to prove Cox was using his tax payer fundeded parliamentary office to carry out his Virgin Islands work

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By *irtylittletramp100TV/TS over a year ago

Notts

"before you ask what is more damaging boris or brexit grasshopper, you should ask what have you contributed to world for you can control your own actions much easier than that of others, hiiiiya

Erm. I'm doing fine thanks. But that doesn't magically polish either the brexit turd, or Boris's reign (of river flows) of shit.

Grasshopper you have eyes but do not see, ears but do not listen.....

First off. I like that I have a pet name "grasshopper".

Secondly, sure, I don't see or hear everything. But I am aware of what's going on in the UK to a degree.

Is there a secret upside to Johnson as a PM, or to Brexit? Something we're not being told. And does it out weigh the rivers of shit, and the giant brexit turd that the Tories dumped onto is all?

you have failed to notice the grasshopper.....

Excellent.

Does this mean Boris has secretly polished the brexit turd, and no one except you knows about it?

Will there be a big reveal?

No it appears you are still blind and have been kicked out of monk training for being blinkered

Free lance grasshopper?

Sorry, you've not found enlightenment and a wider understanding of your world, I'll prey for you

Thanks for your concern. I'm all good and well though, despite the brexit turd that the Tories dumped onto us."

do not think of it as a turd but chocolate grasshopper, savour its favour and the new tastes it brings to your palate... pain is a sensation and sensations are meant to be enjoyed! open your mind

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

"before you ask what is more damaging boris or brexit grasshopper, you should ask what have you contributed to world for you can control your own actions much easier than that of others, hiiiiya

Erm. I'm doing fine thanks. But that doesn't magically polish either the brexit turd, or Boris's reign (of river flows) of shit.

Grasshopper you have eyes but do not see, ears but do not listen.....

First off. I like that I have a pet name "grasshopper".

Secondly, sure, I don't see or hear everything. But I am aware of what's going on in the UK to a degree.

Is there a secret upside to Johnson as a PM, or to Brexit? Something we're not being told. And does it out weigh the rivers of shit, and the giant brexit turd that the Tories dumped onto is all?

you have failed to notice the grasshopper.....

Excellent.

Does this mean Boris has secretly polished the brexit turd, and no one except you knows about it?

Will there be a big reveal?

No it appears you are still blind and have been kicked out of monk training for being blinkered

Free lance grasshopper?

Sorry, you've not found enlightenment and a wider understanding of your world, I'll prey for you

Thanks for your concern. I'm all good and well though, despite the brexit turd that the Tories dumped onto us.

do not think of it as a turd but chocolate grasshopper, savour its favour and the new tastes it brings to your palate... pain is a sensation and sensations are meant to be enjoyed! open your mind

We're all being force fed the stinking brexit turd. It does not taste sweet for anyone except those conditioned to believe pro-brexit propaganda without question.

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By *irtylittletramp100TV/TS over a year ago

Notts

"before you ask what is more damaging boris or brexit grasshopper, you should ask what have you contributed to world for you can control your own actions much easier than that of others, hiiiiya

Erm. I'm doing fine thanks. But that doesn't magically polish either the brexit turd, or Boris's reign (of river flows) of shit.

Grasshopper you have eyes but do not see, ears but do not listen.....

First off. I like that I have a pet name "grasshopper".

Secondly, sure, I don't see or hear everything. But I am aware of what's going on in the UK to a degree.

Is there a secret upside to Johnson as a PM, or to Brexit? Something we're not being told. And does it out weigh the rivers of shit, and the giant brexit turd that the Tories dumped onto is all?

you have failed to notice the grasshopper.....

Excellent.

Does this mean Boris has secretly polished the brexit turd, and no one except you knows about it?

Will there be a big reveal?

No it appears you are still blind and have been kicked out of monk training for being blinkered

Free lance grasshopper?

Sorry, you've not found enlightenment and a wider understanding of your world, I'll prey for you

Thanks for your concern. I'm all good and well though, despite the brexit turd that the Tories dumped onto us.

do not think of it as a turd but chocolate grasshopper, savour its favour and the new tastes it brings to your palate... pain is a sensation and sensations are meant to be enjoyed! open your mind

We're all being force fed the stinking brexit turd. It does not taste sweet for anyone except those conditioned to believe pro-brexit propaganda without question.

for they are enlightened to the pleasures of brexit and those to come.... ok ill stop now lol

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By *lex46TV/TS over a year ago

Near Wells

"So... has anybody said they voted for Johnson before and would do again?"

I don't think they have. I'll be the first and say yes I would vote for Boris again.

I'll go and hide under a desk now. I may pop up later.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So... has anybody said they voted for Johnson before and would do again?

I don't think they have. I'll be the first and say yes I would vote for Boris again.

I'll go and hide under a desk now. I may pop up later. "

I admire your honesty, what has he done since he has become PM that makes you want to vote for him again?

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By *lex46TV/TS over a year ago

Near Wells

Two reasons, I actually like him and he's not stupid as people make out. He has ways that make him look like he doesn't know what he's on about but you don't have a CV like his by being stupid.

Also since the last election, I don't think the opposition has massively improved, better than they were. Good at criticism but no concrete ideas as to what they would do better.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Two reasons, I actually like him and he's not stupid as people make out. He has ways that make him look like he doesn't know what he's on about but you don't have a CV like his by being stupid.

Also since the last election, I don't think the opposition has massively improved, better than they were. Good at criticism but no concrete ideas as to what they would do better. "

His CV is awful, apart from the Mayor of London he has been sacked from every job. I get your point on labour, they need to drastically improve

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

"Two reasons, I actually like him and he's not stupid as people make out. He has ways that make him look like he doesn't know what he's on about but you don't have a CV like his by being stupid.

Also since the last election, I don't think the opposition has massively improved, better than they were. Good at criticism but no concrete ideas as to what they would do better. "

I agree that he's not stupid. The bluster is all part of his act.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Two reasons, I actually like him and he's not stupid as people make out. He has ways that make him look like he doesn't know what he's on about but you don't have a CV like his by being stupid.

Also since the last election, I don't think the opposition has massively improved, better than they were. Good at criticism but no concrete ideas as to what they would do better. "

He's not stupid. That hardly makes him a good leader, though.

Are you happy with the tens of thousands of deaths Johnson caused? Or are you happy with the corruption he is embroiled in? Or are you happy with his constant lies? Or are you happy with his attempts to break rules and even the law?

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By *lex46TV/TS over a year ago

Near Wells

"Two reasons, I actually like him and he's not stupid as people make out. He has ways that make him look like he doesn't know what he's on about but you don't have a CV like his by being stupid.

Also since the last election, I don't think the opposition has massively improved, better than they were. Good at criticism but no concrete ideas as to what they would do better.

He's not stupid. That hardly makes him a good leader, though.

I never said he was a good leader, the question was would I vote for him again and I would.

I recall lots of needles deaths in other countries during the last Labour government.

The first pandemic in a hundred years would anyone else have done better? It's not just the UK that have suffered deaths, a lot of countries have.

Are you saying Labour politicians don't lie, aren't corrupt in any way? There's at least two that have been prosecuted for criminal offences and became independent??

Admittedly things are not looking good for Boris at the moment.

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By *irtylittletramp100TV/TS over a year ago

Notts

just agree with man slut, he has the all knowing eye, all other opinions are worthless... well until people go to the ballot box and man slut is proven wrong again!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Two reasons, I actually like him and he's not stupid as people make out. He has ways that make him look like he doesn't know what he's on about but you don't have a CV like his by being stupid.

Also since the last election, I don't think the opposition has massively improved, better than they were. Good at criticism but no concrete ideas as to what they would do better.

He's not stupid. That hardly makes him a good leader, though.

I never said he was a good leader, the question was would I vote for him again and I would.

I recall lots of needles deaths in other countries during the last Labour government.

The first pandemic in a hundred years would anyone else have done better? It's not just the UK that have suffered deaths, a lot of countries have.

Are you saying Labour politicians don't lie, aren't corrupt in any way? There's at least two that have been prosecuted for criminal offences and became independent??

Admittedly things are not looking good for Boris at the moment. "

The old "nobody woulda done better in the pandemic" argument keeps popping up. And it's utter nonsense. Johnson has been awful in the pandemic. Many avoidable deaths are at his door. The facts are damning. Many people could have done better. Easily.

And of course politicians from other parties lie, fuck up, break the law etc. And? How on Earth is that an argument to allow our country to be led by the most corrupt and least honest leader in living memory in this country? Surely we should all aspire to better.

Your example of Labour politicians being prosecuted is unfortunate, though. A large part of the corruption scandal lately arose because Johnson didn't expel a Tory MP who was found corrupt. And Johnson backed that MP in not being punished according to the rules. On the contrary, Johnson actually tried to nobble the standards committee to get him off. (And to get Johnson off since he's being investigated too.)

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By *irtylittletramp100TV/TS over a year ago

Notts

The old "nobody woulda done better in the pandemic" argument keeps popping up. And it's utter nonsense.

How do you KNOW that? I personally think they did a decent job in a shitty situation. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Yes they could have done better but they could have done a lot worse!

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

"The old "nobody woulda done better in the pandemic" argument keeps popping up. And it's utter nonsense.

How do you KNOW that? I personally think they did a decent job in a shitty situation. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Yes they could have done better but they could have done a lot worse!

He did an excellent job. Lots of Tory party donors made 100s of millions on PPE and other contracts. Great success.

Lots more people died than they needed to while he faffed about, didn't wear a mask, ignored scientific advice etc. But that's not really important. The pandemic was a win for those Tories and their friends "disaster capitalism".

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"The old "nobody woulda done better in the pandemic" argument keeps popping up. And it's utter nonsense.

How do you KNOW that? I personally think they did a decent job in a shitty situation. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Yes they could have done better but they could have done a lot worse!

Ah the old "hindsight" argument keeps popping up too. That's also utter nonsense.

We had ample warning Covid was comning. Johnson did bugger all for ages.

Scientists also begged Johnson to close down. Again, he did bugger all until too late. His lateness to lockdowns caused many deaths.

Johnson also provided very muddled messages on Covid at a time when the public needed a v clear message. Worse, he back Cummings after his B Castle jaunt. Studies later showed that incident caused more deaths.

Johnson has many deaths on his hands. But I know you won't believe me. And I know you won't read the damning stats and analyses. So be well I guess.

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By *irtylittletramp100TV/TS over a year ago

Notts

"The old "nobody woulda done better in the pandemic" argument keeps popping up. And it's utter nonsense.

How do you KNOW that? I personally think they did a decent job in a shitty situation. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Yes they could have done better but they could have done a lot worse!

Ah the old "hindsight" argument keeps popping up too. That's also utter nonsense.

We had ample warning Covid was comning. Johnson did bugger all for ages.

Scientists also begged Johnson to close down. Again, he did bugger all until too late. His lateness to lockdowns caused many deaths.

Johnson has many deaths on his hands. But I know you won't believe me. And I know you won't read the damning stats and analyses. So be well I guess."

everything you dont agree with is utternonsense lol which is utter nonsense!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"The old "nobody woulda done better in the pandemic" argument keeps popping up. And it's utter nonsense.

How do you KNOW that? I personally think they did a decent job in a shitty situation. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Yes they could have done better but they could have done a lot worse!

Ah the old "hindsight" argument keeps popping up too. That's also utter nonsense.

We had ample warning Covid was comning. Johnson did bugger all for ages.

Scientists also begged Johnson to close down. Again, he did bugger all until too late. His lateness to lockdowns caused many deaths.

Johnson has many deaths on his hands. But I know you won't believe me. And I know you won't read the damning stats and analyses. So be well I guess.

everything you dont agree with is utternonsense lol which is utter nonsense!

I'm just basing things on facts again. Thiings that actually happened. You could easily look them up for yourself. But you won't. Feels like any more back and forth on this topic is a waste of time.

So, as I said, be well.

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By *uddy laneMan over a year ago

dudley

The tea leaves are telling me... clowns are the entertainment at the circus.

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By *heekychapieMan over a year ago

kent

Personally I think most people will vote for him again. These are people who have no fucking idea about Boris the man, politics , UK economy and basically the rule of law as the owen Patterson situation shows !

They are in there own little world where the British empire still exists, playing rule Britannia and hating Johnny foreigner for taking all our jobs!

I did feel sorry for them because they were/are being lied to but they just cannot see it!! Basically, let’s call it as it is , they are fucking stupid !

I’m afraid they will carry on thinking life is so much better despite things collapsing around them.

For god sake people stop listening to fancy sound bites and look at the actual FACTS and open your eyes.

I’m praying the younger generation will get a grip on this and turn this fucking shit show around , hopefully sooner rather than later cos folks we are sinking fast and I fear for a generation.

BJ and his cronies should be locked up for what they have done to this country !!

Oh and for the record I’m no Labour fan, I’m your average joe that actually cares for this country and the people in it. Even the stupid ones!!!