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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago
Longridge |
And damned well should be and should have been done years ago.
Long overdue.
I have worked on a Wastewater Works and when I submitting a report in regards to storm overflow and higher volumes due to catchment area development- more bottoms shitting down the pot and more roofs and drains being connected.
I was told to delete it and don't cause any more attention to it.
The works I was on was originally built in 1932, upgraded in 1984 and when I left had NEVER had any expansion added in respect to additional load and flow from drains and toilets.
I left 20 years ago. Planning allows 1000s of new houses to be built, yet water companies are not under any obligation to treat higher volumes of flow and loading. 3000 houses built near me in the last 4 years, there has been no Wastewater expansion provisioned yet they still charge the full rate on water bills - pure profit.
Storm tank water got nothing but a few hours settling and at time of leaving before being dumped into the Mersey with no screening for rags, condoms and sanitary products although, I believed it was later screened as a primary treatment.
The idea of storm tanks us to trap the surge which contains a lot of wash out to then overflow the more diluted effluent, storm water later being put through treatment once flows drop. Some days the plant was discharging non stop for days on end.. |
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By *drianukMan
over a year ago
Spain, Lancs |
When there is a storm the storm water and sewage either goes back into houses or waterways.
Recent investments into stormwater tanks is welcome but even these can get full and need to be discharged.
This is basic physics |
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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago
Longridge |
Agree, but...
Many companies have failed to invest in tanks and increase capacity at treatment works both on the storm and treatment sides.
Failing to increase actual normal treatment means storm water is released at lower flow rates.
In the years I was in the industry, I never saw any increase in actual treatment capacity itself. This meant more flow went to diversion and longer periods of storm tanks kept full thus not freeing up capacity for new inflows.
Many sites population rating was lower or close to the actual population it served with little reservesfor new-builds. |
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By *drianukMan
over a year ago
Spain, Lancs |
"It's almost like privatising everything and putting company profit ahead of providing a reasonable service is a bad idea.
Who'd have thunk it, eh?"
You think this didn't happen when water was nationalised? |
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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago
carrbrook stalybridge |
"It's almost like privatising everything and putting company profit ahead of providing a reasonable service is a bad idea.
Who'd have thunk it, eh?
You think this didn't happen when water was nationalised?"
yes it more than likely did bit the people in charge didnt cry poverty whilst awarding themselves and shareholders billions of pounds . If they had invested which they singularly have failed to do but the cry of we cant afford to improve expand and invest holds no water with me . |
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By *drianukMan
over a year ago
Spain, Lancs |
"It's almost like privatising everything and putting company profit ahead of providing a reasonable service is a bad idea.
Who'd have thunk it, eh?
You think this didn't happen when water was nationalised?yes it more than likely did bit the people in charge didnt cry poverty whilst awarding themselves and shareholders billions of pounds . If they had invested which they singularly have failed to do but the cry of we cant afford to improve expand and invest holds no water with me ."
Water pollution was far worse when water was nationalised.
It has improved amazingly since privatisation |
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"It's almost like privatising everything and putting company profit ahead of providing a reasonable service is a bad idea.
Who'd have thunk it, eh?
You think this didn't happen when water was nationalised?yes it more than likely did bit the people in charge didnt cry poverty whilst awarding themselves and shareholders billions of pounds . If they had invested which they singularly have failed to do but the cry of we cant afford to improve expand and invest holds no water with me .
Water pollution was far worse when water was nationalised.
It has improved amazingly since privatisation"
That was mainly due to it being highly regulated, EU regulations.
Another own goal from you. |
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By *drianukMan
over a year ago
Spain, Lancs |
"It's almost like privatising everything and putting company profit ahead of providing a reasonable service is a bad idea.
Who'd have thunk it, eh?
You think this didn't happen when water was nationalised?yes it more than likely did bit the people in charge didnt cry poverty whilst awarding themselves and shareholders billions of pounds . If they had invested which they singularly have failed to do but the cry of we cant afford to improve expand and invest holds no water with me .
Water pollution was far worse when water was nationalised.
It has improved amazingly since privatisation
That was mainly due to it being highly regulated, EU regulations.
Another own goal from you."
Not at all. You simply don't understand Brexit which is actually about making our own laws.
We now have the freedom to strengthen our laws. Or weaken them. It's up to us, no-one else.
Talking of own goals, have you checked up on the Daily Mail yet? |
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"It's almost like privatising everything and putting company profit ahead of providing a reasonable service is a bad idea.
Who'd have thunk it, eh?
You think this didn't happen when water was nationalised?yes it more than likely did bit the people in charge didnt cry poverty whilst awarding themselves and shareholders billions of pounds . If they had invested which they singularly have failed to do but the cry of we cant afford to improve expand and invest holds no water with me .
Water pollution was far worse when water was nationalised.
It has improved amazingly since privatisation
That was mainly due to it being highly regulated, EU regulations.
Another own goal from you.
Not at all. You simply don't understand Brexit which is actually about making our own laws.
We now have the freedom to strengthen our laws. Or weaken them. It's up to us, no-one else.
Talking of own goals, have you checked up on the Daily Mail yet?"
Daily Fail, yup it's still a brexitrimist paper.
If brexit was all about making our own laws, why did the Brexitter leaders concentrate on hating forums?
Can I politely suggest you try harder? |
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By *drianukMan
over a year ago
Spain, Lancs |
"It's almost like privatising everything and putting company profit ahead of providing a reasonable service is a bad idea.
Who'd have thunk it, eh?
You think this didn't happen when water was nationalised?yes it more than likely did bit the people in charge didnt cry poverty whilst awarding themselves and shareholders billions of pounds . If they had invested which they singularly have failed to do but the cry of we cant afford to improve expand and invest holds no water with me .
Water pollution was far worse when water was nationalised.
It has improved amazingly since privatisation
That was mainly due to it being highly regulated, EU regulations.
Another own goal from you.
Not at all. You simply don't understand Brexit which is actually about making our own laws.
We now have the freedom to strengthen our laws. Or weaken them. It's up to us, no-one else.
Talking of own goals, have you checked up on the Daily Mail yet?
Daily Fail, yup it's still a brexitrimist paper.
If brexit was all about making our own laws, why did the Brexitter leaders concentrate on hating forums?
Can I politely suggest you try harder?"
Well, that shows how little you know. And Remainers think they're the clever ones  |
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"It's almost like privatising everything and putting company profit ahead of providing a reasonable service is a bad idea.
Who'd have thunk it, eh?
You think this didn't happen when water was nationalised?yes it more than likely did bit the people in charge didnt cry poverty whilst awarding themselves and shareholders billions of pounds . If they had invested which they singularly have failed to do but the cry of we cant afford to improve expand and invest holds no water with me .
Water pollution was far worse when water was nationalised.
It has improved amazingly since privatisation
That was mainly due to it being highly regulated, EU regulations.
Another own goal from you.
Not at all. You simply don't understand Brexit which is actually about making our own laws.
We now have the freedom to strengthen our laws. Or weaken them. It's up to us, no-one else.
Talking of own goals, have you checked up on the Daily Mail yet?
Daily Fail, yup it's still a brexitrimist paper.
If brexit was all about making our own laws, why did the Brexitter leaders concentrate on hating forums?
Can I politely suggest you try harder?
Well, that shows how little you know. And Remainers think they're the clever ones "
You omitted the usual emotions |
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By *drianukMan
over a year ago
Spain, Lancs |
"It's almost like privatising everything and putting company profit ahead of providing a reasonable service is a bad idea.
Who'd have thunk it, eh?
You think this didn't happen when water was nationalised?yes it more than likely did bit the people in charge didnt cry poverty whilst awarding themselves and shareholders billions of pounds . If they had invested which they singularly have failed to do but the cry of we cant afford to improve expand and invest holds no water with me .
Water pollution was far worse when water was nationalised.
It has improved amazingly since privatisation
That was mainly due to it being highly regulated, EU regulations.
Another own goal from you.
Not at all. You simply don't understand Brexit which is actually about making our own laws.
We now have the freedom to strengthen our laws. Or weaken them. It's up to us, no-one else.
Talking of own goals, have you checked up on the Daily Mail yet?
Daily Fail, yup it's still a brexitrimist paper.
If brexit was all about making our own laws, why did the Brexitter leaders concentrate on hating forums?
Can I politely suggest you try harder?
Well, that shows how little you know. And Remainers think they're the clever ones
You omitted the usual emotions"
You're wrong again. I thought you were the clever one |
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"It's almost like privatising everything and putting company profit ahead of providing a reasonable service is a bad idea.
Who'd have thunk it, eh?
You think this didn't happen when water was nationalised?yes it more than likely did bit the people in charge didnt cry poverty whilst awarding themselves and shareholders billions of pounds . If they had invested which they singularly have failed to do but the cry of we cant afford to improve expand and invest holds no water with me .
Water pollution was far worse when water was nationalised.
It has improved amazingly since privatisation
That was mainly due to it being highly regulated, EU regulations.
Another own goal from you.
Not at all. You simply don't understand Brexit which is actually about making our own laws.
We now have the freedom to strengthen our laws. Or weaken them. It's up to us, no-one else.
Talking of own goals, have you checked up on the Daily Mail yet?
Daily Fail, yup it's still a brexitrimist paper.
If brexit was all about making our own laws, why did the Brexitter leaders concentrate on hating forums?
Can I politely suggest you try harder?
Well, that shows how little you know. And Remainers think they're the clever ones
You omitted the usual emotions
You're wrong again. I thought you were the clever one "
I've never claimed to be clever, you posted nonsense.
Please try again. |
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By *drianukMan
over a year ago
Spain, Lancs |
"It's almost like privatising everything and putting company profit ahead of providing a reasonable service is a bad idea.
Who'd have thunk it, eh?
You think this didn't happen when water was nationalised?yes it more than likely did bit the people in charge didnt cry poverty whilst awarding themselves and shareholders billions of pounds . If they had invested which they singularly have failed to do but the cry of we cant afford to improve expand and invest holds no water with me .
Water pollution was far worse when water was nationalised.
It has improved amazingly since privatisation
That was mainly due to it being highly regulated, EU regulations.
Another own goal from you.
Not at all. You simply don't understand Brexit which is actually about making our own laws.
We now have the freedom to strengthen our laws. Or weaken them. It's up to us, no-one else.
Talking of own goals, have you checked up on the Daily Mail yet?
Daily Fail, yup it's still a brexitrimist paper.
If brexit was all about making our own laws, why did the Brexitter leaders concentrate on hating forums?
Can I politely suggest you try harder?
Well, that shows how little you know. And Remainers think they're the clever ones
You omitted the usual emotions
You're wrong again. I thought you were the clever one
I've never claimed to be clever, you posted nonsense.
Please try again."
But you were slagging off the Daily Mail because you thought it supported Brexit. You didn't know it supported Remain.
Even when I provided evidence of the change you carried on with your claim.
For some reason |
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By *drianukMan
over a year ago
Spain, Lancs |
"the conservative governments latest in a series of continuous u-turn's or to be more factual, they are now going around in ever decreasing circles as they revolve around the political drain. "
Although, to be fair, there was exactly the same degree of water pollution under a variety of Labour governments |
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"the conservative governments latest in a series of continuous u-turn's or to be more factual, they are now going around in ever decreasing circles as they revolve around the political drain.
Although, to be fair, there was exactly the same degree of water pollution under a variety of Labour governments"
evidence please |
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"When there is a storm the storm water and sewage either goes back into houses or waterways.
Recent investments into stormwater tanks is welcome but even these can get full and need to be discharged.
This is basic physics"
Basic physics. And why some or all of the tens of £billions in dividends shouldn't have been dividends but invested into the creation of fit for purpose capacity. |
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"It's almost like privatising everything and putting company profit ahead of providing a reasonable service is a bad idea.
Who'd have thunk it, eh?
You think this didn't happen when water was nationalised?yes it more than likely did bit the people in charge didnt cry poverty whilst awarding themselves and shareholders billions of pounds . If they had invested which they singularly have failed to do but the cry of we cant afford to improve expand and invest holds no water with me .
Water pollution was far worse when water was nationalised.
It has improved amazingly since privatisation
That was mainly due to it being highly regulated, EU regulations.
Another own goal from you.
Not at all. You simply don't understand Brexit which is actually about making our own laws.
We now have the freedom to strengthen our laws. Or weaken them. It's up to us, no-one else.
Talking of own goals, have you checked up on the Daily Mail yet?
Daily Fail, yup it's still a brexitrimist paper.
If brexit was all about making our own laws, why did the Brexitter leaders concentrate on hating forums?
Can I politely suggest you try harder?
Well, that shows how little you know. And Remainers think they're the clever ones "
I think the research was quite clear on that point  |
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"the conservative governments latest in a series of continuous u-turn's or to be more factual, they are now going around in ever decreasing circles as they revolve around the political drain.
Although, to be fair, there was exactly the same degree of water pollution under a variety of Labour governments
evidence please"
Adrian doesn't need evidence. |
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