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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"never mind life expectancy, never mind cancer outcomes. Look at wage growth,"
Some of Johnson's recent words when interviewed. That's how much he cares about the NHS and our lives. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Whats the average life expectacy today around 82? now go back say 50 years and compare the figures I would say we are doing pretty well.
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Just to clarify, do you agree with Spaffer? So called Wage rises are more important that life expectancy? |
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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago
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"Whats the average life expectacy today around 82? now go back say 50 years and compare the figures I would say we are doing pretty well.
Just to clarify, do you agree with Spaffer? So called Wage rises are more important that life expectancy? "
Never said that did I ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Whats the average life expectacy today around 82? now go back say 50 years and compare the figures I would say we are doing pretty well.
Just to clarify, do you agree with Spaffer? So called Wage rises are more important that life expectancy?
Never said that did I ?"
Do you agree or not??  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"never mind life expectancy, never mind cancer outcomes. Look at wage growth,"
Some of Johnson's recent words when interviewed. That's how much he cares about the NHS and our lives."
do you have a link to the interview? Context Feels important here |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"never mind life expectancy, never mind cancer outcomes. Look at wage growth,"
Some of Johnson's recent words when interviewed. That's how much he cares about the NHS and our lives.do you have a link to the interview? Context Feels important here "
ignore. Found it. |
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"Whats the average life expectacy today around 82? now go back say 50 years and compare the figures I would say we are doing pretty well.
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I doubt it’s 82 in Teesside tho we’ve always had the lowest |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Whats the average life expectacy today around 82? now go back say 50 years and compare the figures I would say we are doing pretty well.
Just to clarify, do you agree with Spaffer? So called Wage rises are more important that life expectancy? "
what do you think about? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Whats the average life expectacy today around 82? now go back say 50 years and compare the figures I would say we are doing pretty well.
Just to clarify, do you agree with Spaffer? So called Wage rises are more important that life expectancy? what do you think about?"
What do I think about? I think it was a callous and pathetic thing to say, standard for Boris though |
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By *drianukMan
over a year ago
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"Yawn. Remainers again  isnt this more about left v right than remain v leave ?"
No. The Remainers try to drag everything back to the EU.
Furthermore, left and right have become very confused in recent years as the so-called left cheers on bad bosses, cheap labour and sneers at pay rises. They have switched sides and are now the enemies of working people.
That too is linked to their Remain obsessions. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yawn. Remainers again isnt this more about left v right than remain v leave ?
No. The Remainers try to drag everything back to the EU.
Furthermore, left and right have become very confused in recent years as the so-called left cheers on bad bosses, cheap labour and sneers at pay rises. They have switched sides and are now the enemies of working people.
That too is linked to their Remain obsessions."
Nobody has mentioned the EU |
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By *drianukMan
over a year ago
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"Yawn. Remainers again isnt this more about left v right than remain v leave ?
No. The Remainers try to drag everything back to the EU.
Furthermore, left and right have become very confused in recent years as the so-called left cheers on bad bosses, cheap labour and sneers at pay rises. They have switched sides and are now the enemies of working people.
That too is linked to their Remain obsessions.
Nobody has mentioned the EU "
You think and speak of little else!
But it is very revealing how the so-called left now backs bosses against workers
Why is that? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yawn. Remainers again isnt this more about left v right than remain v leave ?
No. The Remainers try to drag everything back to the EU.
Furthermore, left and right have become very confused in recent years as the so-called left cheers on bad bosses, cheap labour and sneers at pay rises. They have switched sides and are now the enemies of working people.
That too is linked to their Remain obsessions.
Nobody has mentioned the EU
You think and speak of little else!
But it is very revealing how the so-called left now backs bosses against workers
Why is that?"
The only person mentioning Brexit and the EU was you, why is that? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yawn. Remainers again isnt this more about left v right than remain v leave ?
No. The Remainers try to drag everything back to the EU.
Furthermore, left and right have become very confused in recent years as the so-called left cheers on bad bosses, cheap labour and sneers at pay rises. They have switched sides and are now the enemies of working people.
That too is linked to their Remain obsessions."
yet you raised this !
Brexit cut across left and right as in some ways the EU is left leaning (WTD etc) in other ways not. It also has a wider lens... In a way FoM is levelling up ... It's just in this case the UK is the equivalent of London in the domestic version. And people tend to vote what benefits them rather than from pure principals.
It's interesting that the labour are looking at higher minimu wages just as the Tories are using cheap resources to dig the country out if a hole. |
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raising taxes in a way that negatively affects the lowest paid whilst simultaneously cutting in and out of work benefits at a time of widening stagnation of the economy coupled with rapid inflation is a political own goal that has just lost the tory government any gains they made in so called red wall constituencies. now with huge discontent in the tory heartlands over huge shortages of fuel, goods etc., their forthcomming gerrymander geographic politics may just come back to haunt them. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Also interesting that labour are pro-Eu freedom of movement which forces wages down...then they say they want wages to rise!
Do you believe them?"
They will increase wages by increasing the minimum wage, |
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By *eachcplCouple
over a year ago
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"never mind life expectancy, never mind cancer outcomes. Look at wage growth,"
Some of Johnson's recent words when interviewed. That's how much he cares about the NHS and our lives."
The man is an absolute disgrace. He clearly has never had to deal with cancer and the consequences. The man is a moron |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"never mind life expectancy, never mind cancer outcomes. Look at wage growth,"
Some of Johnson's recent words when interviewed. That's how much he cares about the NHS and our lives.
The man is an absolute disgrace. He clearly has never had to deal with cancer and the consequences. The man is a moron"
His ex wife had cancer, he is a complete bell end, it’s almost like he is saying these things to lose his job  |
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By *drianukMan
over a year ago
Spain, Lancs |
"Also interesting that labour are pro-Eu freedom of movement which forces wages down...then they say they want wages to rise!
Do you believe them?
They will increase wages by increasing the minimum wage, "
Why not strengthen the position of workers in the labour market? Far more effective, proven to work historically and allows for wages to adjust downwards as well as upwards |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Also interesting that labour are pro-Eu freedom of movement which forces wages down...then they say they want wages to rise!
Do you believe them?
They will increase wages by increasing the minimum wage,
Why not strengthen the position of workers in the labour market? Far more effective, proven to work historically and allows for wages to adjust downwards as well as upwards"
Increase the minimum wage for ‘all’ problem solved, employers won’t be able to ‘impost foreign cheap labour’ anymore |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Also interesting that labour are pro-Eu freedom of movement which forces wages down...then they say they want wages to rise!
Do you believe them?
They will increase wages by increasing the minimum wage,
Why not strengthen the position of workers in the labour market? Far more effective, proven to work historically and allows for wages to adjust downwards as well as upwards"
Why do you want then to go down? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Also interesting that labour are pro-Eu freedom of movement which forces wages down...then they say they want wages to rise!
Do you believe them?
They will increase wages by increasing the minimum wage,
Why not strengthen the position of workers in the labour market? Far more effective, proven to work historically and allows for wages to adjust downwards as well as upwards
Increase the minimum wage for ‘all’ problem solved, employers won’t be able to ‘impost foreign cheap labour’ anymore "
Import |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Also interesting that labour are pro-Eu freedom of movement which forces wages down...then they say they want wages to rise!
Do you believe them?
They will increase wages by increasing the minimum wage,
Why not strengthen the position of workers in the labour market? Far more effective, proven to work historically and allows for wages to adjust downwards as well as upwards"
how would you go about doing this ? |
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"Why not strengthen the position of workers in the labour market? Far more effective, proven to work historically and allows for wages to adjust downwards as well as upwards
how would you go about doing this ? "
this is clearly advocating unionisation and the control of the means of production by workers which is a very interesting shift towards marxist ideology from the more usual far right contingent on fab. |
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By *ony 2016Man
over a year ago
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"never mind life expectancy, never mind cancer outcomes. Look at wage growth,"
Some of Johnson's recent words when interviewed. That's how much he cares about the NHS and our lives."
,, ,,, the best Johnson can hope for is that the media don't mention his words in future interviews , , Andrew Marr failed to mention this at all this morning ,, |
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"never mind life expectancy, never mind cancer outcomes. Look at wage growth,"
Some of Johnson's recent words when interviewed. That's how much he cares about the NHS and our lives."
I saw the interview, the interviewer kept cutting in with random quotes off topic and Johnson was basically keeping on topic  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Yawn. Remainers again "
I don't think anybody brought Brexit into this topic at all until you did.
It'd be just like those pesky remainers, though, to object to such a callous comment by Johnson. How dare these hpothtical people care about life and death? |
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By *I TwoCouple
over a year ago
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"never mind life expectancy, never mind cancer outcomes. Look at wage growth,"
Some of Johnson's recent words when interviewed. That's how much he cares about the NHS and our lives."
Isn't there a direct link between wage growth and inflation and also poverty ? |
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This was in the Marr interview. Where Marr also used the ONS data to show that there is not actually any true wage increase anyway.
It's purely because we have lost so many workers at the lower end of the scale, the current average wage is now dragged higher by dint of the higher outliers.
It will probably drop down again once the driver, hospitality etc. areas fill some of those job places. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"This was in the Marr interview. Where Marr also used the ONS data to show that there is not actually any true wage increase anyway.
It's purely because we have lost so many workers at the lower end of the scale, the current average wage is now dragged higher by dint of the higher outliers.
It will probably drop down again once the driver, hospitality etc. areas fill some of those job places."
Johnson was not happy when it was pointed out to him there was no real terms wage increase, especially as that was based on official government figures.
(Side note: it was a nice change to actually see Marr confronting a Tory properly for a change.) |
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