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"I'm a bit sceptical about it. When the flood hit Noah were there cars and industrial factories and gas boilers. When the ice age finished were there diesel engines, nuclear power stations and methane burping rubbish tips. Take man out of the equation and floods and fires would still be battering the earth just as badly. Man is a polluting little animal just look what he did to the moon and now Mars. I think the Earth will out live man and flourish. " Quite the comment. | |||
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"I'm a bit sceptical about it. When the flood hit Noah were there cars and industrial factories and gas boilers. When the ice age finished were there diesel engines, nuclear power stations and methane burping rubbish tips. Take man out of the equation and floods and fires would still be battering the earth just as badly. Man is a polluting little animal just look what he did to the moon and now Mars. I think the Earth will out live man and flourish. " I have to agree with you there, of course man has some effect on the planet but all these things have happened before. It always strikes me that they always take figures from around 1840 which was the end of a mini ice age, very convenient  | |||
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"I take as much notice of this as all the other warning,when i was a kid it was hole in ozone layer we gona fry in ten years then it was in 10 years. Sea levels will rise and drorwn us all didnt happen either have no doubt this will fail to materialize either,predicting what the climate is gona do 50 years from now,yea righto,they change the threat every time the last one failed to happen" There was a hole in the ozone layer and it was getting bigger, the world took action by banning CFC’s through the Montreal Protocol and the growth of the hole was stabilised. It gradually started to to shrink and in 2020 it closed for the first time in 40 years. Mankind saw the problem and mankind took action to fix their problem. The Montreal Protocol was signed by 197 countries, and is the only UN treaty in history to achieve universal ratification. The treaty is one of the most successful protocols to tackle an environmental challenge caused by humans. As for sea levels - they are rising across the world. Just because this news is not front and centre every day just yet does not mean that it isn’t happening. A number of low lying South Pacific Islands around Tarawa and the other Marshall Islands have experienced unsustainable sea events in the last decade and many are now only one cyclonic event away from being completely destroyed. I suppose those people in the South Pacific are a very long way away and not even British, so what about some examples here in the U.K.? Ever heard of Fairbourne in Wales? It is now so exposed to flooding after multiple high tide events in recent years that the Welsh Govt and local authority are questioning the cost - benefit ratio of even trying to save the town. Another example might be the Southsea Coastal Scheme - a massive project that is needed unless 10,000 homes and almost 1,000 businesses are to face an uncertain future. They have had the warnings and action is now being taken. | |||
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"Preach all you like but after hearing these armagedon predictions since childhood i tend to take it with a pinch of salt,hope your doing your bit though get rid of your car no more holidays abroad,truth is my carbon footprint is probably smaller than yours is and im not even trying to save the planet" Did you go to the school of hard knocks and get a degree from the university of life in ‘telling it how it is’? | |||
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"Preach all you like but after hearing these armagedon predictions since childhood i tend to take it with a pinch of salt,hope your doing your bit though get rid of your car no more holidays abroad,truth is my carbon footprint is probably smaller than yours is and im not even trying to save the planet" How is it me who is preaching? You are the one "preaching" falsehoods. Facts are just facts for you to accept, or to challenge with contrary evidence. Preaching falsehoods and unsubstantiated and unproven opinions is what you are doing. | |||
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"Preach all you like but after hearing these armagedon predictions since childhood i tend to take it with a pinch of salt,hope your doing your bit though get rid of your car no more holidays abroad,truth is my carbon footprint is probably smaller than yours is and im not even trying to save the planet Did you go to the school of hard knocks and get a degree from the university of life in ‘telling it how it is’?" what is wrong with what he said it’s his opinion it’s as valid as any not everyone wants to google information and stats just to be a plastic expert tbh I agree with a lot of what everyone as said | |||
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"Yes, we don't want information and facts to get in the way of an opinion. "It'd set a dangerous precedent, wouldn't it?  | |||
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"Preach all you like but after hearing these armagedon predictions since childhood i tend to take it with a pinch of salt,hope your doing your bit though get rid of your car no more holidays abroad,truth is my carbon footprint is probably smaller than yours is and im not even trying to save the planet Did you go to the school of hard knocks and get a degree from the university of life in ‘telling it how it is’?" nah normal school,my opinion so there you go,if your a climate expert stop spending so much time on here and save the planet | |||
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"Preach all you like but after hearing these armagedon predictions since childhood i tend to take it with a pinch of salt,hope your doing your bit though get rid of your car no more holidays abroad,truth is my carbon footprint is probably smaller than yours is and im not even trying to save the planet How is it me who is preaching? You are the one "preaching" falsehoods. Facts are just facts for you to accept, or to challenge with contrary evidence. Preaching falsehoods and unsubstantiated and unproven opinions is what you are doing." falsehoods? How are they false if all these predictions have come to diddly squat | |||
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"Preach all you like but after hearing these armagedon predictions since childhood i tend to take it with a pinch of salt,hope your doing your bit though get rid of your car no more holidays abroad,truth is my carbon footprint is probably smaller than yours is and im not even trying to save the planet How is it me who is preaching? You are the one "preaching" falsehoods. Facts are just facts for you to accept, or to challenge with contrary evidence. Preaching falsehoods and unsubstantiated and unproven opinions is what you are doing.falsehoods? How are they false if all these predictions have come to diddly squat" Sea levels have gone up. Global temperatures have gone up. The ice caps are melting. Some might think these are slightly bad signs. | |||
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"Preach all you like but after hearing these armagedon predictions since childhood i tend to take it with a pinch of salt,hope your doing your bit though get rid of your car no more holidays abroad,truth is my carbon footprint is probably smaller than yours is and im not even trying to save the planet How is it me who is preaching? You are the one "preaching" falsehoods. Facts are just facts for you to accept, or to challenge with contrary evidence. Preaching falsehoods and unsubstantiated and unproven opinions is what you are doing.falsehoods? How are they false if all these predictions have come to diddly squat" With regard to the ozone layer, I have lived in New Zealand over which the hole opened up, you cannot send your child to school there with bare legs of arms, or a sun hat. Every morning on the news they tell you the day’s ‘burn time’ (which is usually 5-10 minutes) and that is with the drastic action that was taken by the world that has Ben detailed on this thread. Please take your pub bore opinions to Facebook where they belong. | |||
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"Preach all you like but after hearing these armagedon predictions since childhood i tend to take it with a pinch of salt,hope your doing your bit though get rid of your car no more holidays abroad,truth is my carbon footprint is probably smaller than yours is and im not even trying to save the planet Did you go to the school of hard knocks and get a degree from the university of life in ‘telling it how it is’? what is wrong with what he said it’s his opinion it’s as valid as any not everyone wants to google information and stats just to be a plastic expert tbh I agree with a lot of what everyone as said " There in lies the problem, it’s not as valid as anyone else’s as some people have taken the time to read the views expressed by 97% of climate scientists. Only an idiot would give opinion the same credence as scientific research. | |||
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"I take as much notice of this as all the other warning,when i was a kid it was hole in ozone layer we gona fry in ten years then it was in 10 years. Sea levels will rise and drorwn us all didnt happen either have no doubt this will fail to materialize either,predicting what the climate is gona do 50 years from now,yea righto,they change the threat every time the last one failed to happen There was a hole in the ozone layer and it was getting bigger, the world took action by banning CFC’s through the Montreal Protocol and the growth of the hole was stabilised. It gradually started to to shrink and in 2020 it closed for the first time in 40 years. Mankind saw the problem and mankind took action to fix their problem. The Montreal Protocol was signed by 197 countries, and is the only UN treaty in history to achieve universal ratification. The treaty is one of the most successful protocols to tackle an environmental challenge caused by humans. As for sea levels - they are rising across the world. Just because this news is not front and centre every day just yet does not mean that it isn’t happening. A number of low lying South Pacific Islands around Tarawa and the other Marshall Islands have experienced unsustainable sea events in the last decade and many are now only one cyclonic event away from being completely destroyed. I suppose those people in the South Pacific are a very long way away and not even British, so what about some examples here in the U.K.? Ever heard of Fairbourne in Wales? It is now so exposed to flooding after multiple high tide events in recent years that the Welsh Govt and local authority are questioning the cost - benefit ratio of even trying to save the town. Another example might be the Southsea Coastal Scheme - a massive project that is needed unless 10,000 homes and almost 1,000 businesses are to face an uncertain future. They have had the warnings and action is now being taken. " coastal erosion and towns disappearing have been going on for centuries take Dunwich for instance it was the capital of the kingdom of the East Angles but finally disapeared into the sea in 1287 it had a port the size of 14th century London. All this is nothing new. | |||
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" coastal erosion and towns disappearing have been going on for centuries take Dunwich for instance it was the capital of the kingdom of the East Angles but finally disapeared into the sea in 1287 it had a port the size of 14th century London. All this is nothing new." Takung a step back, and looking at the bigger picture... Carbon gas is a wrll known greenhouse gas. Its been pumped into the atmosphere at a growing rate from the industrial revolution. The climate is warming, ice caps melting, and through careful study, scientists say there's more carbon in the atmosphere now thanks to our activity since before humans walked the earth. Putting that together, whats the odds of it being a natural coincidence? | |||
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"Preach all you like but after hearing these armagedon predictions since childhood i tend to take it with a pinch of salt,hope your doing your bit though get rid of your car no more holidays abroad,truth is my carbon footprint is probably smaller than yours is and im not even trying to save the planet How is it me who is preaching? You are the one "preaching" falsehoods. Facts are just facts for you to accept, or to challenge with contrary evidence. Preaching falsehoods and unsubstantiated and unproven opinions is what you are doing.falsehoods? How are they false if all these predictions have come to diddly squat With regard to the ozone layer, I have lived in New Zealand over which the hole opened up, you cannot send your child to school there with bare legs of arms, or a sun hat. Every morning on the news they tell you the day’s ‘burn time’ (which is usually 5-10 minutes) and that is with the drastic action that was taken by the world that has Ben detailed on this thread. Please take your pub bore opinions to Facebook where they belong." please stop telling people what they should do on a forum for members of this site,ive not posted anything thats against the rules.like i said if your such an expert why are u wasting time on here go save mankind the climate clock is ticking isnt it | |||
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"Preach all you like but after hearing these armagedon predictions since childhood i tend to take it with a pinch of salt,hope your doing your bit though get rid of your car no more holidays abroad,truth is my carbon footprint is probably smaller than yours is and im not even trying to save the planet How is it me who is preaching? You are the one "preaching" falsehoods. Facts are just facts for you to accept, or to challenge with contrary evidence. Preaching falsehoods and unsubstantiated and unproven opinions is what you are doing.falsehoods? How are they false if all these predictions have come to diddly squat Sea levels have gone up. Global temperatures have gone up. The ice caps are melting. Some might think these are slightly bad signs." but we was told we would of all fried by now or be living in waterworld none of wich happend so how am i preaching falsehoods i think thats the people who made those predictions | |||
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"Preach all you like but after hearing these armagedon predictions since childhood i tend to take it with a pinch of salt,hope your doing your bit though get rid of your car no more holidays abroad,truth is my carbon footprint is probably smaller than yours is and im not even trying to save the planet How is it me who is preaching? You are the one "preaching" falsehoods. Facts are just facts for you to accept, or to challenge with contrary evidence. Preaching falsehoods and unsubstantiated and unproven opinions is what you are doing.falsehoods? How are they false if all these predictions have come to diddly squat Sea levels have gone up. Global temperatures have gone up. The ice caps are melting. Some might think these are slightly bad signs.but we was told we would of all fried by now or be living in waterworld none of wich happend so how am i preaching falsehoods i think thats the people who made those predictions" So we should do nothing at all until things get really bad? | |||
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"Preach all you like but after hearing these armagedon predictions since childhood i tend to take it with a pinch of salt,hope your doing your bit though get rid of your car no more holidays abroad,truth is my carbon footprint is probably smaller than yours is and im not even trying to save the planet How is it me who is preaching? You are the one "preaching" falsehoods. Facts are just facts for you to accept, or to challenge with contrary evidence. Preaching falsehoods and unsubstantiated and unproven opinions is what you are doing.falsehoods? How are they false if all these predictions have come to diddly squat With regard to the ozone layer, I have lived in New Zealand over which the hole opened up, you cannot send your child to school there with bare legs of arms, or a sun hat. Every morning on the news they tell you the day’s ‘burn time’ (which is usually 5-10 minutes) and that is with the drastic action that was taken by the world that has Ben detailed on this thread. Please take your pub bore opinions to Facebook where they belong.please stop telling people what they should do on a forum for members of this site,ive not posted anything thats against the rules.like i said if your such an expert why are u wasting time on here go save mankind the climate clock is ticking isnt it" That’s a fair point, being an ignorant and tedious bore who talks shit in order to get attention is not against forum rules. | |||
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"Preach all you like but after hearing these armagedon predictions since childhood i tend to take it with a pinch of salt,hope your doing your bit though get rid of your car no more holidays abroad,truth is my carbon footprint is probably smaller than yours is and im not even trying to save the planet How is it me who is preaching? You are the one "preaching" falsehoods. Facts are just facts for you to accept, or to challenge with contrary evidence. Preaching falsehoods and unsubstantiated and unproven opinions is what you are doing.falsehoods? How are they false if all these predictions have come to diddly squat Sea levels have gone up. Global temperatures have gone up. The ice caps are melting. Some might think these are slightly bad signs.but we was told we would of all fried by now or be living in waterworld none of wich happend so how am i preaching falsehoods i think thats the people who made those predictions So we should do nothing at all until things get really bad?" You do you and allow others to do the same 
The virtue signalling in this place worse by the day. | |||
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"Preach all you like but after hearing these armagedon predictions since childhood i tend to take it with a pinch of salt,hope your doing your bit though get rid of your car no more holidays abroad,truth is my carbon footprint is probably smaller than yours is and im not even trying to save the planet How is it me who is preaching? You are the one "preaching" falsehoods. Facts are just facts for you to accept, or to challenge with contrary evidence. Preaching falsehoods and unsubstantiated and unproven opinions is what you are doing.falsehoods? How are they false if all these predictions have come to diddly squat With regard to the ozone layer, I have lived in New Zealand over which the hole opened up, you cannot send your child to school there with bare legs of arms, or a sun hat. Every morning on the news they tell you the day’s ‘burn time’ (which is usually 5-10 minutes) and that is with the drastic action that was taken by the world that has Ben detailed on this thread. Please take your pub bore opinions to Facebook where they belong.please stop telling people what they should do on a forum for members of this site,ive not posted anything thats against the rules.like i said if your such an expert why are u wasting time on here go save mankind the climate clock is ticking isnt it That’s a fair point, being an ignorant and tedious bore who talks shit in order to get attention is not against forum rules." ah insults from a random on the internet. | |||
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"Preach all you like but after hearing these armagedon predictions since childhood i tend to take it with a pinch of salt,hope your doing your bit though get rid of your car no more holidays abroad,truth is my carbon footprint is probably smaller than yours is and im not even trying to save the planet How is it me who is preaching? You are the one "preaching" falsehoods. Facts are just facts for you to accept, or to challenge with contrary evidence. Preaching falsehoods and unsubstantiated and unproven opinions is what you are doing.falsehoods? How are they false if all these predictions have come to diddly squat Sea levels have gone up. Global temperatures have gone up. The ice caps are melting. Some might think these are slightly bad signs.but we was told we would of all fried by now or be living in waterworld none of wich happend so how am i preaching falsehoods i think thats the people who made those predictions So we should do nothing at all until things get really bad? You do you and allow others to do the same
The virtue signalling in this place worse by the day."Yep because caring about the fate of the world as we know it is virtue signalling.  | |||
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"Preach all you like but after hearing these armagedon predictions since childhood i tend to take it with a pinch of salt,hope your doing your bit though get rid of your car no more holidays abroad,truth is my carbon footprint is probably smaller than yours is and im not even trying to save the planet How is it me who is preaching? You are the one "preaching" falsehoods. Facts are just facts for you to accept, or to challenge with contrary evidence. Preaching falsehoods and unsubstantiated and unproven opinions is what you are doing.falsehoods? How are they false if all these predictions have come to diddly squat Sea levels have gone up. Global temperatures have gone up. The ice caps are melting. Some might think these are slightly bad signs.but we was told we would of all fried by now or be living in waterworld none of wich happend so how am i preaching falsehoods i think thats the people who made those predictions So we should do nothing at all until things get really bad? You do you and allow others to do the same
The virtue signalling in this place worse by the day.
Yep because caring about the fate of the world as we know it is virtue signalling. "If you care so much, get off the Internet | |||
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"Preach all you like but after hearing these armagedon predictions since childhood i tend to take it with a pinch of salt,hope your doing your bit though get rid of your car no more holidays abroad,truth is my carbon footprint is probably smaller than yours is and im not even trying to save the planet How is it me who is preaching? You are the one "preaching" falsehoods. Facts are just facts for you to accept, or to challenge with contrary evidence. Preaching falsehoods and unsubstantiated and unproven opinions is what you are doing.falsehoods? How are they false if all these predictions have come to diddly squat Sea levels have gone up. Global temperatures have gone up. The ice caps are melting. Some might think these are slightly bad signs.but we was told we would of all fried by now or be living in waterworld none of wich happend so how am i preaching falsehoods i think thats the people who made those predictions So we should do nothing at all until things get really bad? You do you and allow others to do the same
The virtue signalling in this place worse by the day.
Yep because caring about the fate of the world as we know it is virtue signalling.
If you care so much, get off the Internet "I'm not allowed to be online or even to discuss this? I didn't get that memo. Are you at all concerned by climate change? What do you think we should do about it? | |||
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"Preach all you like but after hearing these armagedon predictions since childhood i tend to take it with a pinch of salt,hope your doing your bit though get rid of your car no more holidays abroad,truth is my carbon footprint is probably smaller than yours is and im not even trying to save the planet How is it me who is preaching? You are the one "preaching" falsehoods. Facts are just facts for you to accept, or to challenge with contrary evidence. Preaching falsehoods and unsubstantiated and unproven opinions is what you are doing.falsehoods? How are they false if all these predictions have come to diddly squat Sea levels have gone up. Global temperatures have gone up. The ice caps are melting. Some might think these are slightly bad signs.but we was told we would of all fried by now or be living in waterworld none of wich happend so how am i preaching falsehoods i think thats the people who made those predictions So we should do nothing at all until things get really bad? You do you and allow others to do the same
The virtue signalling in this place worse by the day.
Yep because caring about the fate of the world as we know it is virtue signalling.
If you care so much, get off the Internet
I'm not allowed to be online or even to discuss this? I didn't get that memo.
Are you at all concerned by climate change? What do you think we should do about it?"I didn't say you couldn't, just pointing out how it's virtue signalling. The Internet uses between 10-20% of the works energy consumption. I personally couldn't care less. Evolution at work. | |||
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"Preach all you like but after hearing these armagedon predictions since childhood i tend to take it with a pinch of salt,hope your doing your bit though get rid of your car no more holidays abroad,truth is my carbon footprint is probably smaller than yours is and im not even trying to save the planet How is it me who is preaching? You are the one "preaching" falsehoods. Facts are just facts for you to accept, or to challenge with contrary evidence. Preaching falsehoods and unsubstantiated and unproven opinions is what you are doing.falsehoods? How are they false if all these predictions have come to diddly squat With regard to the ozone layer, I have lived in New Zealand over which the hole opened up, you cannot send your child to school there with bare legs of arms, or a sun hat. Every morning on the news they tell you the day’s ‘burn time’ (which is usually 5-10 minutes) and that is with the drastic action that was taken by the world that has Ben detailed on this thread. Please take your pub bore opinions to Facebook where they belong.please stop telling people what they should do on a forum for members of this site,ive not posted anything thats against the rules.like i said if your such an expert why are u wasting time on here go save mankind the climate clock is ticking isnt it That’s a fair point, being an ignorant and tedious bore who talks shit in order to get attention is not against forum rules. ah insults from a random on the internet."Perhaps it wasn’t directed at you, but if the cap fits… | |||
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"Preach all you like but after hearing these armagedon predictions since childhood i tend to take it with a pinch of salt,hope your doing your bit though get rid of your car no more holidays abroad,truth is my carbon footprint is probably smaller than yours is and im not even trying to save the planet How is it me who is preaching? You are the one "preaching" falsehoods. Facts are just facts for you to accept, or to challenge with contrary evidence. Preaching falsehoods and unsubstantiated and unproven opinions is what you are doing.falsehoods? How are they false if all these predictions have come to diddly squat With regard to the ozone layer, I have lived in New Zealand over which the hole opened up, you cannot send your child to school there with bare legs of arms, or a sun hat. Every morning on the news they tell you the day’s ‘burn time’ (which is usually 5-10 minutes) and that is with the drastic action that was taken by the world that has Ben detailed on this thread. Please take your pub bore opinions to Facebook where they belong.please stop telling people what they should do on a forum for members of this site,ive not posted anything thats against the rules.like i said if your such an expert why are u wasting time on here go save mankind the climate clock is ticking isnt it That’s a fair point, being an ignorant and tedious bore who talks shit in order to get attention is not against forum rules. ah insults from a random on the internet.
Perhaps it wasn’t directed at you, but if the cap fits…"you were replying to my post who else were you talking to? | |||
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"Preach all you like but after hearing these armagedon predictions since childhood i tend to take it with a pinch of salt,hope your doing your bit though get rid of your car no more holidays abroad,truth is my carbon footprint is probably smaller than yours is and im not even trying to save the planet How is it me who is preaching? You are the one "preaching" falsehoods. Facts are just facts for you to accept, or to challenge with contrary evidence. Preaching falsehoods and unsubstantiated and unproven opinions is what you are doing.falsehoods? How are they false if all these predictions have come to diddly squat Sea levels have gone up. Global temperatures have gone up. The ice caps are melting. Some might think these are slightly bad signs.but we was told we would of all fried by now or be living in waterworld none of wich happend so how am i preaching falsehoods i think thats the people who made those predictions So we should do nothing at all until things get really bad? You do you and allow others to do the same
The virtue signalling in this place worse by the day.
Yep because caring about the fate of the world as we know it is virtue signalling.
If you care so much, get off the Internet
I'm not allowed to be online or even to discuss this? I didn't get that memo.
Are you at all concerned by climate change? What do you think we should do about it?
I didn't say you couldn't, just pointing out how it's virtue signalling. The Internet uses between 10-20% of the works energy consumption.
I personally couldn't care less. Evolution at work.
"You really don't care if there is catastrophic climate change? If new and extreme weather kills somebody you love, you'll just shrug and say: " it's "evolution at work."? | |||
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"Preach all you like but after hearing these armagedon predictions since childhood i tend to take it with a pinch of salt,hope your doing your bit though get rid of your car no more holidays abroad,truth is my carbon footprint is probably smaller than yours is and im not even trying to save the planet How is it me who is preaching? You are the one "preaching" falsehoods. Facts are just facts for you to accept, or to challenge with contrary evidence. Preaching falsehoods and unsubstantiated and unproven opinions is what you are doing.falsehoods? How are they false if all these predictions have come to diddly squat Sea levels have gone up. Global temperatures have gone up. The ice caps are melting. Some might think these are slightly bad signs.but we was told we would of all fried by now or be living in waterworld none of wich happend so how am i preaching falsehoods i think thats the people who made those predictions So we should do nothing at all until things get really bad? You do you and allow others to do the same
The virtue signalling in this place worse by the day.
Yep because caring about the fate of the world as we know it is virtue signalling.
If you care so much, get off the Internet
I'm not allowed to be online or even to discuss this? I didn't get that memo.
Are you at all concerned by climate change? What do you think we should do about it?
I didn't say you couldn't, just pointing out how it's virtue signalling. The Internet uses between 10-20% of the works energy consumption.
I personally couldn't care less. Evolution at work.
You really don't care if there is catastrophic climate change? If new and extreme weather kills somebody you love, you'll just shrug and say: " it's "evolution at work."?"Bit extreme for it to happen suddenly. Our elders left it in a worse state for us, as their elders did for them. That's called evolution. | |||
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"Preach all you like but after hearing these armagedon predictions since childhood i tend to take it with a pinch of salt,hope your doing your bit though get rid of your car no more holidays abroad,truth is my carbon footprint is probably smaller than yours is and im not even trying to save the planet How is it me who is preaching? You are the one "preaching" falsehoods. Facts are just facts for you to accept, or to challenge with contrary evidence. Preaching falsehoods and unsubstantiated and unproven opinions is what you are doing.falsehoods? How are they false if all these predictions have come to diddly squat With regard to the ozone layer, I have lived in New Zealand over which the hole opened up, you cannot send your child to school there with bare legs of arms, or a sun hat. Every morning on the news they tell you the day’s ‘burn time’ (which is usually 5-10 minutes) and that is with the drastic action that was taken by the world that has Ben detailed on this thread. Please take your pub bore opinions to Facebook where they belong.please stop telling people what they should do on a forum for members of this site,ive not posted anything thats against the rules.like i said if your such an expert why are u wasting time on here go save mankind the climate clock is ticking isnt it That’s a fair point, being an ignorant and tedious bore who talks shit in order to get attention is not against forum rules. ah insults from a random on the internet.
Perhaps it wasn’t directed at you, but if the cap fits…you were replying to my post who else were you talking to? "There really are a lot of possibilities. | |||
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"Preach all you like but after hearing these armagedon predictions since childhood i tend to take it with a pinch of salt,hope your doing your bit though get rid of your car no more holidays abroad,truth is my carbon footprint is probably smaller than yours is and im not even trying to save the planet How is it me who is preaching? You are the one "preaching" falsehoods. Facts are just facts for you to accept, or to challenge with contrary evidence. Preaching falsehoods and unsubstantiated and unproven opinions is what you are doing.falsehoods? How are they false if all these predictions have come to diddly squat Sea levels have gone up. Global temperatures have gone up. The ice caps are melting. Some might think these are slightly bad signs.but we was told we would of all fried by now or be living in waterworld none of wich happend so how am i preaching falsehoods i think thats the people who made those predictions So we should do nothing at all until things get really bad? You do you and allow others to do the same
The virtue signalling in this place worse by the day.
Yep because caring about the fate of the world as we know it is virtue signalling.
If you care so much, get off the Internet
I'm not allowed to be online or even to discuss this? I didn't get that memo.
Are you at all concerned by climate change? What do you think we should do about it?
I didn't say you couldn't, just pointing out how it's virtue signalling. The Internet uses between 10-20% of the works energy consumption.
I personally couldn't care less. Evolution at work.
You really don't care if there is catastrophic climate change? If new and extreme weather kills somebody you love, you'll just shrug and say: " it's "evolution at work."?
Bit extreme for it to happen suddenly.
Our elders left it in a worse state for us, as their elders did for them. That's called evolution."Not sure that's quite how Darwin explained evolution... Again, you really couldn't care less? If climate change damages, ruins or ends the life of somebody you love, you wouldn't care still? | |||
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"Preach all you like but after hearing these armagedon predictions since childhood i tend to take it with a pinch of salt,hope your doing your bit though get rid of your car no more holidays abroad,truth is my carbon footprint is probably smaller than yours is and im not even trying to save the planet Did you go to the school of hard knocks and get a degree from the university of life in ‘telling it how it is’? what is wrong with what he said it’s his opinion it’s as valid as any not everyone wants to google information and stats just to be a plastic expert tbh I agree with a lot of what everyone as said There in lies the problem, it’s not as valid as anyone else’s as some people have taken the time to read the views expressed by 97% of climate scientists. Only an idiot would give opinion the same credence as scientific research." ok so I’m an idiot you’ve won well done you I’m sorry I won’t express any opinions again I’ll just use google and pretend I’m an expert on the subject just like you | |||
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"Preach all you like but after hearing these armagedon predictions since childhood i tend to take it with a pinch of salt,hope your doing your bit though get rid of your car no more holidays abroad,truth is my carbon footprint is probably smaller than yours is and im not even trying to save the planet How is it me who is preaching? You are the one "preaching" falsehoods. Facts are just facts for you to accept, or to challenge with contrary evidence. Preaching falsehoods and unsubstantiated and unproven opinions is what you are doing.falsehoods? How are they false if all these predictions have come to diddly squat Sea levels have gone up. Global temperatures have gone up. The ice caps are melting. Some might think these are slightly bad signs.but we was told we would of all fried by now or be living in waterworld none of wich happend so how am i preaching falsehoods i think thats the people who made those predictions So we should do nothing at all until things get really bad? You do you and allow others to do the same
The virtue signalling in this place worse by the day.
Yep because caring about the fate of the world as we know it is virtue signalling.
If you care so much, get off the Internet
I'm not allowed to be online or even to discuss this? I didn't get that memo.
Are you at all concerned by climate change? What do you think we should do about it?
I didn't say you couldn't, just pointing out how it's virtue signalling. The Internet uses between 10-20% of the works energy consumption.
I personally couldn't care less. Evolution at work.
You really don't care if there is catastrophic climate change? If new and extreme weather kills somebody you love, you'll just shrug and say: " it's "evolution at work."?
Bit extreme for it to happen suddenly.
Our elders left it in a worse state for us, as their elders did for them. That's called evolution.
Not sure that's quite how Darwin explained evolution...
Again, you really couldn't care less? If climate change damages, ruins or ends the life of somebody you love, you wouldn't care still?"Darwin spoke of biology, not climate. I'll say it again, it won't happen suddenly. I'll likely be in this world for 60-90 years and I'm gonna love my way so that I can enjoy it. Once more, you do you and allow others the same courtesy | |||
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"Preach all you like but after hearing these armagedon predictions since childhood i tend to take it with a pinch of salt,hope your doing your bit though get rid of your car no more holidays abroad,truth is my carbon footprint is probably smaller than yours is and im not even trying to save the planet How is it me who is preaching? You are the one "preaching" falsehoods. Facts are just facts for you to accept, or to challenge with contrary evidence. Preaching falsehoods and unsubstantiated and unproven opinions is what you are doing.falsehoods? How are they false if all these predictions have come to diddly squat Sea levels have gone up. Global temperatures have gone up. The ice caps are melting. Some might think these are slightly bad signs.but we was told we would of all fried by now or be living in waterworld none of wich happend so how am i preaching falsehoods i think thats the people who made those predictions So we should do nothing at all until things get really bad? You do you and allow others to do the same
The virtue signalling in this place worse by the day.
Yep because caring about the fate of the world as we know it is virtue signalling.
If you care so much, get off the Internet
I'm not allowed to be online or even to discuss this? I didn't get that memo.
Are you at all concerned by climate change? What do you think we should do about it?
I didn't say you couldn't, just pointing out how it's virtue signalling. The Internet uses between 10-20% of the works energy consumption.
I personally couldn't care less. Evolution at work.
You really don't care if there is catastrophic climate change? If new and extreme weather kills somebody you love, you'll just shrug and say: " it's "evolution at work."?
Bit extreme for it to happen suddenly.
Our elders left it in a worse state for us, as their elders did for them. That's called evolution.
Not sure that's quite how Darwin explained evolution...
Again, you really couldn't care less? If climate change damages, ruins or ends the life of somebody you love, you wouldn't care still?
Darwin spoke of biology, not climate.
I'll say it again, it won't happen suddenly.
I'll likely be in this world for 60-90 years and I'm gonna love my way so that I can enjoy it.
Once more, you do you and allow others the same courtesy "You're the 1 who started using the term evolution... Anyway, you might find it harder to enjoy your life if climate change gets worse and worse. We're alreadys seeing signs this is happening with increasing extreme weather events. And the whole "you do you" attitude doesn't work when there's a huge and serious threat to us all. We only deal with something like that by working together. | |||
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"Preach all you like but after hearing these armagedon predictions since childhood i tend to take it with a pinch of salt,hope your doing your bit though get rid of your car no more holidays abroad,truth is my carbon footprint is probably smaller than yours is and im not even trying to save the planet How is it me who is preaching? You are the one "preaching" falsehoods. Facts are just facts for you to accept, or to challenge with contrary evidence. Preaching falsehoods and unsubstantiated and unproven opinions is what you are doing.falsehoods? How are they false if all these predictions have come to diddly squat Sea levels have gone up. Global temperatures have gone up. The ice caps are melting. Some might think these are slightly bad signs.but we was told we would of all fried by now or be living in waterworld none of wich happend so how am i preaching falsehoods i think thats the people who made those predictions So we should do nothing at all until things get really bad? You do you and allow others to do the same
The virtue signalling in this place worse by the day.
Yep because caring about the fate of the world as we know it is virtue signalling.
If you care so much, get off the Internet
I'm not allowed to be online or even to discuss this? I didn't get that memo.
Are you at all concerned by climate change? What do you think we should do about it?
I didn't say you couldn't, just pointing out how it's virtue signalling. The Internet uses between 10-20% of the works energy consumption.
I personally couldn't care less. Evolution at work.
You really don't care if there is catastrophic climate change? If new and extreme weather kills somebody you love, you'll just shrug and say: " it's "evolution at work."?
Bit extreme for it to happen suddenly.
Our elders left it in a worse state for us, as their elders did for them. That's called evolution.
Not sure that's quite how Darwin explained evolution...
Again, you really couldn't care less? If climate change damages, ruins or ends the life of somebody you love, you wouldn't care still?
Darwin spoke of biology, not climate.
I'll say it again, it won't happen suddenly.
I'll likely be in this world for 60-90 years and I'm gonna love my way so that I can enjoy it.
Once more, you do you and allow others the same courtesy
You're the 1 who started using the term evolution...
Anyway, you might find it harder to enjoy your life if climate change gets worse and worse. We're alreadys seeing signs this is happening with increasing extreme weather events.
And the whole "you do you" attitude doesn't work when there's a huge and serious threat to us all. We only deal with something like that by working together."so what is it you do to help with climate change ? | |||
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"Preach all you like but after hearing these armagedon predictions since childhood i tend to take it with a pinch of salt,hope your doing your bit though get rid of your car no more holidays abroad,truth is my carbon footprint is probably smaller than yours is and im not even trying to save the planet How is it me who is preaching? You are the one "preaching" falsehoods. Facts are just facts for you to accept, or to challenge with contrary evidence. Preaching falsehoods and unsubstantiated and unproven opinions is what you are doing.falsehoods? How are they false if all these predictions have come to diddly squat Sea levels have gone up. Global temperatures have gone up. The ice caps are melting. Some might think these are slightly bad signs.but we was told we would of all fried by now or be living in waterworld none of wich happend so how am i preaching falsehoods i think thats the people who made those predictions So we should do nothing at all until things get really bad? You do you and allow others to do the same
The virtue signalling in this place worse by the day.
Yep because caring about the fate of the world as we know it is virtue signalling.
If you care so much, get off the Internet
I'm not allowed to be online or even to discuss this? I didn't get that memo.
Are you at all concerned by climate change? What do you think we should do about it?
I didn't say you couldn't, just pointing out how it's virtue signalling. The Internet uses between 10-20% of the works energy consumption.
I personally couldn't care less. Evolution at work.
You really don't care if there is catastrophic climate change? If new and extreme weather kills somebody you love, you'll just shrug and say: " it's "evolution at work."?
Bit extreme for it to happen suddenly.
Our elders left it in a worse state for us, as their elders did for them. That's called evolution.
Not sure that's quite how Darwin explained evolution...
Again, you really couldn't care less? If climate change damages, ruins or ends the life of somebody you love, you wouldn't care still?
Darwin spoke of biology, not climate.
I'll say it again, it won't happen suddenly.
I'll likely be in this world for 60-90 years and I'm gonna love my way so that I can enjoy it.
Once more, you do you and allow others the same courtesy
You're the 1 who started using the term evolution...
Anyway, you might find it harder to enjoy your life if climate change gets worse and worse. We're alreadys seeing signs this is happening with increasing extreme weather events.
And the whole "you do you" attitude doesn't work when there's a huge and serious threat to us all. We only deal with something like that by working together."I did mention evolution, I said nothing of Darwin or biology. Are we saying the world hasn't evolved now? If you genuinely think you're gonna get everyone to think your way and 'world together' then I'm afraid you're gonna waste an awful lot of you're life. | |||
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"I'm a bit sceptical about it. When the flood hit Noah were there cars and industrial factories and gas boilers. When the ice age finished were there diesel engines, nuclear power stations and methane burping rubbish tips. Take man out of the equation and floods and fires would still be battering the earth just as badly. Man is a polluting little animal just look what he did to the moon and now Mars. I think the Earth will out live man and flourish. I have to agree with you there, of course man has some effect on the planet but all these things have happened before. It always strikes me that they always take figures from around 1840 which was the end of a mini ice age, very convenient "Which was funnily enough the reason the bicycle was invented. Now we are supposed to ride bicycles to stop climate change  . | |||
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"Preach all you like but after hearing these armagedon predictions since childhood i tend to take it with a pinch of salt,hope your doing your bit though get rid of your car no more holidays abroad,truth is my carbon footprint is probably smaller than yours is and im not even trying to save the planet How is it me who is preaching? You are the one "preaching" falsehoods. Facts are just facts for you to accept, or to challenge with contrary evidence. Preaching falsehoods and unsubstantiated and unproven opinions is what you are doing.falsehoods? How are they false if all these predictions have come to diddly squat Sea levels have gone up. Global temperatures have gone up. The ice caps are melting. Some might think these are slightly bad signs.but we was told we would of all fried by now or be living in waterworld none of wich happend so how am i preaching falsehoods i think thats the people who made those predictions So we should do nothing at all until things get really bad? You do you and allow others to do the same
The virtue signalling in this place worse by the day.
Yep because caring about the fate of the world as we know it is virtue signalling.
If you care so much, get off the Internet
I'm not allowed to be online or even to discuss this? I didn't get that memo.
Are you at all concerned by climate change? What do you think we should do about it?
I didn't say you couldn't, just pointing out how it's virtue signalling. The Internet uses between 10-20% of the works energy consumption.
I personally couldn't care less. Evolution at work.
You really don't care if there is catastrophic climate change? If new and extreme weather kills somebody you love, you'll just shrug and say: " it's "evolution at work."?
Bit extreme for it to happen suddenly.
Our elders left it in a worse state for us, as their elders did for them. That's called evolution.
Not sure that's quite how Darwin explained evolution...
Again, you really couldn't care less? If climate change damages, ruins or ends the life of somebody you love, you wouldn't care still?
Darwin spoke of biology, not climate.
I'll say it again, it won't happen suddenly.
I'll likely be in this world for 60-90 years and I'm gonna love my way so that I can enjoy it.
Once more, you do you and allow others the same courtesy
You're the 1 who started using the term evolution...
Anyway, you might find it harder to enjoy your life if climate change gets worse and worse. We're alreadys seeing signs this is happening with increasing extreme weather events.
And the whole "you do you" attitude doesn't work when there's a huge and serious threat to us all. We only deal with something like that by working together.so what is it you do to help with climate change ?"I do lots of simple things that many of us can do. I walk wherever possible. I only use other forms of transport when I must. I rarely fly. I got a smart meter. I reduced water usage. I don't waste or bin any food. I don't splurge on clothes buying. I turn off any electrical items when I'm not using them. I recycle etc | |||
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"Preach all you like but after hearing these armagedon predictions since childhood i tend to take it with a pinch of salt,hope your doing your bit though get rid of your car no more holidays abroad,truth is my carbon footprint is probably smaller than yours is and im not even trying to save the planet How is it me who is preaching? You are the one "preaching" falsehoods. Facts are just facts for you to accept, or to challenge with contrary evidence. Preaching falsehoods and unsubstantiated and unproven opinions is what you are doing.falsehoods? How are they false if all these predictions have come to diddly squat Sea levels have gone up. Global temperatures have gone up. The ice caps are melting. Some might think these are slightly bad signs.but we was told we would of all fried by now or be living in waterworld none of wich happend so how am i preaching falsehoods i think thats the people who made those predictions So we should do nothing at all until things get really bad? You do you and allow others to do the same
The virtue signalling in this place worse by the day.
Yep because caring about the fate of the world as we know it is virtue signalling.
If you care so much, get off the Internet
I'm not allowed to be online or even to discuss this? I didn't get that memo.
Are you at all concerned by climate change? What do you think we should do about it?
I didn't say you couldn't, just pointing out how it's virtue signalling. The Internet uses between 10-20% of the works energy consumption.
I personally couldn't care less. Evolution at work.
You really don't care if there is catastrophic climate change? If new and extreme weather kills somebody you love, you'll just shrug and say: " it's "evolution at work."?
Bit extreme for it to happen suddenly.
Our elders left it in a worse state for us, as their elders did for them. That's called evolution.
Not sure that's quite how Darwin explained evolution...
Again, you really couldn't care less? If climate change damages, ruins or ends the life of somebody you love, you wouldn't care still?
Darwin spoke of biology, not climate.
I'll say it again, it won't happen suddenly.
I'll likely be in this world for 60-90 years and I'm gonna love my way so that I can enjoy it.
Once more, you do you and allow others the same courtesy
You're the 1 who started using the term evolution...
Anyway, you might find it harder to enjoy your life if climate change gets worse and worse. We're alreadys seeing signs this is happening with increasing extreme weather events.
And the whole "you do you" attitude doesn't work when there's a huge and serious threat to us all. We only deal with something like that by working together.
I did mention evolution, I said nothing of Darwin or biology. Are we saying the world hasn't evolved now?
If you genuinely think you're gonna get everyone to think your way and 'world together' then I'm afraid you're gonna waste an awful lot of you're life."Oh I don't think I'll get everybody to think my way. But this is a forum for discussion. And it seems a valid point climate change is an issue that affects us all. In that light, "You do you" is an incredibly unhelpful stance to take. | |||
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"Preach all you like but after hearing these armagedon predictions since childhood i tend to take it with a pinch of salt,hope your doing your bit though get rid of your car no more holidays abroad,truth is my carbon footprint is probably smaller than yours is and im not even trying to save the planet How is it me who is preaching? You are the one "preaching" falsehoods. Facts are just facts for you to accept, or to challenge with contrary evidence. Preaching falsehoods and unsubstantiated and unproven opinions is what you are doing.falsehoods? How are they false if all these predictions have come to diddly squat Sea levels have gone up. Global temperatures have gone up. The ice caps are melting. Some might think these are slightly bad signs.but we was told we would of all fried by now or be living in waterworld none of wich happend so how am i preaching falsehoods i think thats the people who made those predictions So we should do nothing at all until things get really bad? You do you and allow others to do the same
The virtue signalling in this place worse by the day.
Yep because caring about the fate of the world as we know it is virtue signalling.
If you care so much, get off the Internet
I'm not allowed to be online or even to discuss this? I didn't get that memo.
Are you at all concerned by climate change? What do you think we should do about it?
I didn't say you couldn't, just pointing out how it's virtue signalling. The Internet uses between 10-20% of the works energy consumption.
I personally couldn't care less. Evolution at work.
You really don't care if there is catastrophic climate change? If new and extreme weather kills somebody you love, you'll just shrug and say: " it's "evolution at work."?
Bit extreme for it to happen suddenly.
Our elders left it in a worse state for us, as their elders did for them. That's called evolution.
Not sure that's quite how Darwin explained evolution...
Again, you really couldn't care less? If climate change damages, ruins or ends the life of somebody you love, you wouldn't care still?
Darwin spoke of biology, not climate.
I'll say it again, it won't happen suddenly.
I'll likely be in this world for 60-90 years and I'm gonna love my way so that I can enjoy it.
Once more, you do you and allow others the same courtesy
You're the 1 who started using the term evolution...
Anyway, you might find it harder to enjoy your life if climate change gets worse and worse. We're alreadys seeing signs this is happening with increasing extreme weather events.
And the whole "you do you" attitude doesn't work when there's a huge and serious threat to us all. We only deal with something like that by working together.
I did mention evolution, I said nothing of Darwin or biology. Are we saying the world hasn't evolved now?
If you genuinely think you're gonna get everyone to think your way and 'world together' then I'm afraid you're gonna waste an awful lot of you're life.
Oh I don't think I'll get everybody to think my way. But this is a forum for discussion. And it seems a valid point climate change is an issue that affects us all. In that light, "You do you" is an incredibly unhelpful stance to take."Has climate change affected you in a negative way? | |||
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"Preach all you like but after hearing these armagedon predictions since childhood i tend to take it with a pinch of salt,hope your doing your bit though get rid of your car no more holidays abroad,truth is my carbon footprint is probably smaller than yours is and im not even trying to save the planet How is it me who is preaching? You are the one "preaching" falsehoods. Facts are just facts for you to accept, or to challenge with contrary evidence. Preaching falsehoods and unsubstantiated and unproven opinions is what you are doing.falsehoods? How are they false if all these predictions have come to diddly squat Sea levels have gone up. Global temperatures have gone up. The ice caps are melting. Some might think these are slightly bad signs.but we was told we would of all fried by now or be living in waterworld none of wich happend so how am i preaching falsehoods i think thats the people who made those predictions So we should do nothing at all until things get really bad? You do you and allow others to do the same
The virtue signalling in this place worse by the day.
Yep because caring about the fate of the world as we know it is virtue signalling.
If you care so much, get off the Internet
I'm not allowed to be online or even to discuss this? I didn't get that memo.
Are you at all concerned by climate change? What do you think we should do about it?
I didn't say you couldn't, just pointing out how it's virtue signalling. The Internet uses between 10-20% of the works energy consumption.
I personally couldn't care less. Evolution at work.
You really don't care if there is catastrophic climate change? If new and extreme weather kills somebody you love, you'll just shrug and say: " it's "evolution at work."?
Bit extreme for it to happen suddenly.
Our elders left it in a worse state for us, as their elders did for them. That's called evolution.
Not sure that's quite how Darwin explained evolution...
Again, you really couldn't care less? If climate change damages, ruins or ends the life of somebody you love, you wouldn't care still?
Darwin spoke of biology, not climate.
I'll say it again, it won't happen suddenly.
I'll likely be in this world for 60-90 years and I'm gonna love my way so that I can enjoy it.
Once more, you do you and allow others the same courtesy
You're the 1 who started using the term evolution...
Anyway, you might find it harder to enjoy your life if climate change gets worse and worse. We're alreadys seeing signs this is happening with increasing extreme weather events.
And the whole "you do you" attitude doesn't work when there's a huge and serious threat to us all. We only deal with something like that by working together.so what is it you do to help with climate change ?
I do lots of simple things that many of us can do.
I walk wherever possible. I only use other forms of transport when I must. I rarely fly. I got a smart meter. I reduced water usage. I don't waste or bin any food. I don't splurge on clothes buying. I turn off any electrical items when I'm not using them. I recycle etc"id guess many of us do that aswell | |||
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"Preach all you like but after hearing these armagedon predictions since childhood i tend to take it with a pinch of salt,hope your doing your bit though get rid of your car no more holidays abroad,truth is my carbon footprint is probably smaller than yours is and im not even trying to save the planet How is it me who is preaching? You are the one "preaching" falsehoods. Facts are just facts for you to accept, or to challenge with contrary evidence. Preaching falsehoods and unsubstantiated and unproven opinions is what you are doing.falsehoods? How are they false if all these predictions have come to diddly squat Sea levels have gone up. Global temperatures have gone up. The ice caps are melting. Some might think these are slightly bad signs.but we was told we would of all fried by now or be living in waterworld none of wich happend so how am i preaching falsehoods i think thats the people who made those predictions So we should do nothing at all until things get really bad? You do you and allow others to do the same
The virtue signalling in this place worse by the day.
Yep because caring about the fate of the world as we know it is virtue signalling.
If you care so much, get off the Internet
I'm not allowed to be online or even to discuss this? I didn't get that memo.
Are you at all concerned by climate change? What do you think we should do about it?
I didn't say you couldn't, just pointing out how it's virtue signalling. The Internet uses between 10-20% of the works energy consumption.
I personally couldn't care less. Evolution at work.
You really don't care if there is catastrophic climate change? If new and extreme weather kills somebody you love, you'll just shrug and say: " it's "evolution at work."?
Bit extreme for it to happen suddenly.
Our elders left it in a worse state for us, as their elders did for them. That's called evolution.
Not sure that's quite how Darwin explained evolution...
Again, you really couldn't care less? If climate change damages, ruins or ends the life of somebody you love, you wouldn't care still?
Darwin spoke of biology, not climate.
I'll say it again, it won't happen suddenly.
I'll likely be in this world for 60-90 years and I'm gonna love my way so that I can enjoy it.
Once more, you do you and allow others the same courtesy
You're the 1 who started using the term evolution...
Anyway, you might find it harder to enjoy your life if climate change gets worse and worse. We're alreadys seeing signs this is happening with increasing extreme weather events.
And the whole "you do you" attitude doesn't work when there's a huge and serious threat to us all. We only deal with something like that by working together.so what is it you do to help with climate change ?
I do lots of simple things that many of us can do.
I walk wherever possible. I only use other forms of transport when I must. I rarely fly. I got a smart meter. I reduced water usage. I don't waste or bin any food. I don't splurge on clothes buying. I turn off any electrical items when I'm not using them. I recycle etcid guess many of us do that aswell "Hopefully  | |||
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"Preach all you like but after hearing these armagedon predictions since childhood i tend to take it with a pinch of salt,hope your doing your bit though get rid of your car no more holidays abroad,truth is my carbon footprint is probably smaller than yours is and im not even trying to save the planet How is it me who is preaching? You are the one "preaching" falsehoods. Facts are just facts for you to accept, or to challenge with contrary evidence. Preaching falsehoods and unsubstantiated and unproven opinions is what you are doing.falsehoods? How are they false if all these predictions have come to diddly squat Sea levels have gone up. Global temperatures have gone up. The ice caps are melting. Some might think these are slightly bad signs.but we was told we would of all fried by now or be living in waterworld none of wich happend so how am i preaching falsehoods i think thats the people who made those predictions So we should do nothing at all until things get really bad? You do you and allow others to do the same
The virtue signalling in this place worse by the day.
Yep because caring about the fate of the world as we know it is virtue signalling.
If you care so much, get off the Internet
I'm not allowed to be online or even to discuss this? I didn't get that memo.
Are you at all concerned by climate change? What do you think we should do about it?
I didn't say you couldn't, just pointing out how it's virtue signalling. The Internet uses between 10-20% of the works energy consumption.
I personally couldn't care less. Evolution at work.
You really don't care if there is catastrophic climate change? If new and extreme weather kills somebody you love, you'll just shrug and say: " it's "evolution at work."?
Bit extreme for it to happen suddenly.
Our elders left it in a worse state for us, as their elders did for them. That's called evolution.
Not sure that's quite how Darwin explained evolution...
Again, you really couldn't care less? If climate change damages, ruins or ends the life of somebody you love, you wouldn't care still?
Darwin spoke of biology, not climate.
I'll say it again, it won't happen suddenly.
I'll likely be in this world for 60-90 years and I'm gonna love my way so that I can enjoy it.
Once more, you do you and allow others the same courtesy
You're the 1 who started using the term evolution...
Anyway, you might find it harder to enjoy your life if climate change gets worse and worse. We're alreadys seeing signs this is happening with increasing extreme weather events.
And the whole "you do you" attitude doesn't work when there's a huge and serious threat to us all. We only deal with something like that by working together.
I did mention evolution, I said nothing of Darwin or biology. Are we saying the world hasn't evolved now?
If you genuinely think you're gonna get everyone to think your way and 'world together' then I'm afraid you're gonna waste an awful lot of you're life.
Oh I don't think I'll get everybody to think my way. But this is a forum for discussion. And it seems a valid point climate change is an issue that affects us all. In that light, "You do you" is an incredibly unhelpful stance to take.
Has climate change affected you in a negative way?"So far? It's possibly increased food prices. So because it hasn't fucked up my life yet, I should do nothing? At what point should I be concerned? When my home is underwater? When I can't get or afford food? When many people have died from climate change? | |||
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"Preach all you like but after hearing these armagedon predictions since childhood i tend to take it with a pinch of salt,hope your doing your bit though get rid of your car no more holidays abroad,truth is my carbon footprint is probably smaller than yours is and im not even trying to save the planet How is it me who is preaching? You are the one "preaching" falsehoods. Facts are just facts for you to accept, or to challenge with contrary evidence. Preaching falsehoods and unsubstantiated and unproven opinions is what you are doing.falsehoods? How are they false if all these predictions have come to diddly squat Sea levels have gone up. Global temperatures have gone up. The ice caps are melting. Some might think these are slightly bad signs.but we was told we would of all fried by now or be living in waterworld none of wich happend so how am i preaching falsehoods i think thats the people who made those predictions So we should do nothing at all until things get really bad? You do you and allow others to do the same
The virtue signalling in this place worse by the day.
Yep because caring about the fate of the world as we know it is virtue signalling.
If you care so much, get off the Internet
I'm not allowed to be online or even to discuss this? I didn't get that memo.
Are you at all concerned by climate change? What do you think we should do about it?
I didn't say you couldn't, just pointing out how it's virtue signalling. The Internet uses between 10-20% of the works energy consumption.
I personally couldn't care less. Evolution at work.
You really don't care if there is catastrophic climate change? If new and extreme weather kills somebody you love, you'll just shrug and say: " it's "evolution at work."?
Bit extreme for it to happen suddenly.
Our elders left it in a worse state for us, as their elders did for them. That's called evolution.
Not sure that's quite how Darwin explained evolution...
Again, you really couldn't care less? If climate change damages, ruins or ends the life of somebody you love, you wouldn't care still?
Darwin spoke of biology, not climate.
I'll say it again, it won't happen suddenly.
I'll likely be in this world for 60-90 years and I'm gonna love my way so that I can enjoy it.
Once more, you do you and allow others the same courtesy
You're the 1 who started using the term evolution...
Anyway, you might find it harder to enjoy your life if climate change gets worse and worse. We're alreadys seeing signs this is happening with increasing extreme weather events.
And the whole "you do you" attitude doesn't work when there's a huge and serious threat to us all. We only deal with something like that by working together.so what is it you do to help with climate change ?
I do lots of simple things that many of us can do.
I walk wherever possible. I only use other forms of transport when I must. I rarely fly. I got a smart meter. I reduced water usage. I don't waste or bin any food. I don't splurge on clothes buying. I turn off any electrical items when I'm not using them. I recycle etcid guess many of us do that aswell
Hopefully "it’s a total waste of time tho with what China and India are doing | |||
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"Preach all you like but after hearing these armagedon predictions since childhood i tend to take it with a pinch of salt,hope your doing your bit though get rid of your car no more holidays abroad,truth is my carbon footprint is probably smaller than yours is and im not even trying to save the planet How is it me who is preaching? You are the one "preaching" falsehoods. Facts are just facts for you to accept, or to challenge with contrary evidence. Preaching falsehoods and unsubstantiated and unproven opinions is what you are doing.falsehoods? How are they false if all these predictions have come to diddly squat Sea levels have gone up. Global temperatures have gone up. The ice caps are melting. Some might think these are slightly bad signs.but we was told we would of all fried by now or be living in waterworld none of wich happend so how am i preaching falsehoods i think thats the people who made those predictions So we should do nothing at all until things get really bad? You do you and allow others to do the same
The virtue signalling in this place worse by the day.
Yep because caring about the fate of the world as we know it is virtue signalling.
If you care so much, get off the Internet
I'm not allowed to be online or even to discuss this? I didn't get that memo.
Are you at all concerned by climate change? What do you think we should do about it?
I didn't say you couldn't, just pointing out how it's virtue signalling. The Internet uses between 10-20% of the works energy consumption.
I personally couldn't care less. Evolution at work.
You really don't care if there is catastrophic climate change? If new and extreme weather kills somebody you love, you'll just shrug and say: " it's "evolution at work."?
Bit extreme for it to happen suddenly.
Our elders left it in a worse state for us, as their elders did for them. That's called evolution.
Not sure that's quite how Darwin explained evolution...
Again, you really couldn't care less? If climate change damages, ruins or ends the life of somebody you love, you wouldn't care still?
Darwin spoke of biology, not climate.
I'll say it again, it won't happen suddenly.
I'll likely be in this world for 60-90 years and I'm gonna love my way so that I can enjoy it.
Once more, you do you and allow others the same courtesy
You're the 1 who started using the term evolution...
Anyway, you might find it harder to enjoy your life if climate change gets worse and worse. We're alreadys seeing signs this is happening with increasing extreme weather events.
And the whole "you do you" attitude doesn't work when there's a huge and serious threat to us all. We only deal with something like that by working together.so what is it you do to help with climate change ?
I do lots of simple things that many of us can do.
I walk wherever possible. I only use other forms of transport when I must. I rarely fly. I got a smart meter. I reduced water usage. I don't waste or bin any food. I don't splurge on clothes buying. I turn off any electrical items when I'm not using them. I recycle etcid guess many of us do that aswell
Hopefully it’s a total waste of time tho with what China and India are doing "This is why we need to talk about this on a global scale and work together on a global scale. | |||
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"Preach all you like but after hearing these armagedon predictions since childhood i tend to take it with a pinch of salt,hope your doing your bit though get rid of your car no more holidays abroad,truth is my carbon footprint is probably smaller than yours is and im not even trying to save the planet How is it me who is preaching? You are the one "preaching" falsehoods. Facts are just facts for you to accept, or to challenge with contrary evidence. Preaching falsehoods and unsubstantiated and unproven opinions is what you are doing.falsehoods? How are they false if all these predictions have come to diddly squat Sea levels have gone up. Global temperatures have gone up. The ice caps are melting. Some might think these are slightly bad signs.but we was told we would of all fried by now or be living in waterworld none of wich happend so how am i preaching falsehoods i think thats the people who made those predictions So we should do nothing at all until things get really bad? You do you and allow others to do the same
The virtue signalling in this place worse by the day.
Yep because caring about the fate of the world as we know it is virtue signalling.
If you care so much, get off the Internet
I'm not allowed to be online or even to discuss this? I didn't get that memo.
Are you at all concerned by climate change? What do you think we should do about it?
I didn't say you couldn't, just pointing out how it's virtue signalling. The Internet uses between 10-20% of the works energy consumption.
I personally couldn't care less. Evolution at work.
You really don't care if there is catastrophic climate change? If new and extreme weather kills somebody you love, you'll just shrug and say: " it's "evolution at work."?
Bit extreme for it to happen suddenly.
Our elders left it in a worse state for us, as their elders did for them. That's called evolution.
Not sure that's quite how Darwin explained evolution...
Again, you really couldn't care less? If climate change damages, ruins or ends the life of somebody you love, you wouldn't care still?
Darwin spoke of biology, not climate.
I'll say it again, it won't happen suddenly.
I'll likely be in this world for 60-90 years and I'm gonna love my way so that I can enjoy it.
Once more, you do you and allow others the same courtesy
You're the 1 who started using the term evolution...
Anyway, you might find it harder to enjoy your life if climate change gets worse and worse. We're alreadys seeing signs this is happening with increasing extreme weather events.
And the whole "you do you" attitude doesn't work when there's a huge and serious threat to us all. We only deal with something like that by working together.so what is it you do to help with climate change ?
I do lots of simple things that many of us can do.
I walk wherever possible. I only use other forms of transport when I must. I rarely fly. I got a smart meter. I reduced water usage. I don't waste or bin any food. I don't splurge on clothes buying. I turn off any electrical items when I'm not using them. I recycle etcid guess many of us do that aswell
Hopefully it’s a total waste of time tho with what China and India are doing
This is why we need to talk about this on a global scale and work together on a global scale."good luck with that China do what China wants and as no interest in slowing | |||
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"Preach all you like but after hearing these armagedon predictions since childhood i tend to take it with a pinch of salt,hope your doing your bit though get rid of your car no more holidays abroad,truth is my carbon footprint is probably smaller than yours is and im not even trying to save the planet How is it me who is preaching? You are the one "preaching" falsehoods. Facts are just facts for you to accept, or to challenge with contrary evidence. Preaching falsehoods and unsubstantiated and unproven opinions is what you are doing.falsehoods? How are they false if all these predictions have come to diddly squat Sea levels have gone up. Global temperatures have gone up. The ice caps are melting. Some might think these are slightly bad signs.but we was told we would of all fried by now or be living in waterworld none of wich happend so how am i preaching falsehoods i think thats the people who made those predictions So we should do nothing at all until things get really bad? You do you and allow others to do the same
The virtue signalling in this place worse by the day.
Yep because caring about the fate of the world as we know it is virtue signalling.
If you care so much, get off the Internet
I'm not allowed to be online or even to discuss this? I didn't get that memo.
Are you at all concerned by climate change? What do you think we should do about it?
I didn't say you couldn't, just pointing out how it's virtue signalling. The Internet uses between 10-20% of the works energy consumption.
I personally couldn't care less. Evolution at work.
You really don't care if there is catastrophic climate change? If new and extreme weather kills somebody you love, you'll just shrug and say: " it's "evolution at work."?
Bit extreme for it to happen suddenly.
Our elders left it in a worse state for us, as their elders did for them. That's called evolution.
Not sure that's quite how Darwin explained evolution...
Again, you really couldn't care less? If climate change damages, ruins or ends the life of somebody you love, you wouldn't care still?
Darwin spoke of biology, not climate.
I'll say it again, it won't happen suddenly.
I'll likely be in this world for 60-90 years and I'm gonna love my way so that I can enjoy it.
Once more, you do you and allow others the same courtesy
You're the 1 who started using the term evolution...
Anyway, you might find it harder to enjoy your life if climate change gets worse and worse. We're alreadys seeing signs this is happening with increasing extreme weather events.
And the whole "you do you" attitude doesn't work when there's a huge and serious threat to us all. We only deal with something like that by working together.so what is it you do to help with climate change ?
I do lots of simple things that many of us can do.
I walk wherever possible. I only use other forms of transport when I must. I rarely fly. I got a smart meter. I reduced water usage. I don't waste or bin any food. I don't splurge on clothes buying. I turn off any electrical items when I'm not using them. I recycle etcid guess many of us do that aswell
Hopefully it’s a total waste of time tho with what China and India are doing
This is why we need to talk about this on a global scale and work together on a global scale.good luck with that China do what China wants and as no interest in slowing "They will if we stop buying so much shit!! Laws on repair should also be tightened . Don’t take this as Brexit please as not intended but if we can get stuff nearer than the other side of the world then alternatives using high carbon transport should be taxed more . It’s a simple thought but a nightmare to implement I know . It’s nuts that we buy pegs and coat hangers from the other side of the world . We can make the simple crap closer to home . Also applies to food | |||
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"Preach all you like but after hearing these armagedon predictions since childhood i tend to take it with a pinch of salt,hope your doing your bit though get rid of your car no more holidays abroad,truth is my carbon footprint is probably smaller than yours is and im not even trying to save the planet How is it me who is preaching? You are the one "preaching" falsehoods. Facts are just facts for you to accept, or to challenge with contrary evidence. Preaching falsehoods and unsubstantiated and unproven opinions is what you are doing.falsehoods? How are they false if all these predictions have come to diddly squat Sea levels have gone up. Global temperatures have gone up. The ice caps are melting. Some might think these are slightly bad signs.but we was told we would of all fried by now or be living in waterworld none of wich happend so how am i preaching falsehoods i think thats the people who made those predictions So we should do nothing at all until things get really bad? You do you and allow others to do the same
The virtue signalling in this place worse by the day.
Yep because caring about the fate of the world as we know it is virtue signalling.
If you care so much, get off the Internet
I'm not allowed to be online or even to discuss this? I didn't get that memo.
Are you at all concerned by climate change? What do you think we should do about it?
I didn't say you couldn't, just pointing out how it's virtue signalling. The Internet uses between 10-20% of the works energy consumption.
I personally couldn't care less. Evolution at work.
You really don't care if there is catastrophic climate change? If new and extreme weather kills somebody you love, you'll just shrug and say: " it's "evolution at work."?
Bit extreme for it to happen suddenly.
Our elders left it in a worse state for us, as their elders did for them. That's called evolution.
Not sure that's quite how Darwin explained evolution...
Again, you really couldn't care less? If climate change damages, ruins or ends the life of somebody you love, you wouldn't care still?
Darwin spoke of biology, not climate.
I'll say it again, it won't happen suddenly.
I'll likely be in this world for 60-90 years and I'm gonna love my way so that I can enjoy it.
Once more, you do you and allow others the same courtesy
You're the 1 who started using the term evolution...
Anyway, you might find it harder to enjoy your life if climate change gets worse and worse. We're alreadys seeing signs this is happening with increasing extreme weather events.
And the whole "you do you" attitude doesn't work when there's a huge and serious threat to us all. We only deal with something like that by working together.so what is it you do to help with climate change ?
I do lots of simple things that many of us can do.
I walk wherever possible. I only use other forms of transport when I must. I rarely fly. I got a smart meter. I reduced water usage. I don't waste or bin any food. I don't splurge on clothes buying. I turn off any electrical items when I'm not using them. I recycle etcid guess many of us do that aswell
Hopefully it’s a total waste of time tho with what China and India are doing
This is why we need to talk about this on a global scale and work together on a global scale.good luck with that China do what China wants and as no interest in slowing
They will if we stop buying so much shit!!
Laws on repair should also be tightened . Don’t take this as Brexit please as not intended but if we can get stuff nearer than the other side of the world then alternatives using high carbon transport should be taxed more .
It’s a simple thought but a nightmare to implement I know .
It’s nuts that we buy pegs and coat hangers from the other side of the world . We can make the simple crap closer to home . Also applies to food "I agree mate we buy far to much shite from there but unless the rest of the world stop aswell won’t make a dent in all for buying British but look at the menus in restaurants pubs hospitals carehomes universities schools there’s a lot of pasta and rice on them we don’t grow that in the U.K. | |||
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"Preach all you like but after hearing these armagedon predictions since childhood i tend to take it with a pinch of salt,hope your doing your bit though get rid of your car no more holidays abroad,truth is my carbon footprint is probably smaller than yours is and im not even trying to save the planet How is it me who is preaching? You are the one "preaching" falsehoods. Facts are just facts for you to accept, or to challenge with contrary evidence. Preaching falsehoods and unsubstantiated and unproven opinions is what you are doing.falsehoods? How are they false if all these predictions have come to diddly squat Sea levels have gone up. Global temperatures have gone up. The ice caps are melting. Some might think these are slightly bad signs.but we was told we would of all fried by now or be living in waterworld none of wich happend so how am i preaching falsehoods i think thats the people who made those predictions So we should do nothing at all until things get really bad? You do you and allow others to do the same
The virtue signalling in this place worse by the day.
Yep because caring about the fate of the world as we know it is virtue signalling.
If you care so much, get off the Internet
I'm not allowed to be online or even to discuss this? I didn't get that memo.
Are you at all concerned by climate change? What do you think we should do about it?
I didn't say you couldn't, just pointing out how it's virtue signalling. The Internet uses between 10-20% of the works energy consumption.
I personally couldn't care less. Evolution at work.
You really don't care if there is catastrophic climate change? If new and extreme weather kills somebody you love, you'll just shrug and say: " it's "evolution at work."?
Bit extreme for it to happen suddenly.
Our elders left it in a worse state for us, as their elders did for them. That's called evolution.
Not sure that's quite how Darwin explained evolution...
Again, you really couldn't care less? If climate change damages, ruins or ends the life of somebody you love, you wouldn't care still?
Darwin spoke of biology, not climate.
I'll say it again, it won't happen suddenly.
I'll likely be in this world for 60-90 years and I'm gonna love my way so that I can enjoy it.
Once more, you do you and allow others the same courtesy
You're the 1 who started using the term evolution...
Anyway, you might find it harder to enjoy your life if climate change gets worse and worse. We're alreadys seeing signs this is happening with increasing extreme weather events.
And the whole "you do you" attitude doesn't work when there's a huge and serious threat to us all. We only deal with something like that by working together.so what is it you do to help with climate change ?
I do lots of simple things that many of us can do.
I walk wherever possible. I only use other forms of transport when I must. I rarely fly. I got a smart meter. I reduced water usage. I don't waste or bin any food. I don't splurge on clothes buying. I turn off any electrical items when I'm not using them. I recycle etcid guess many of us do that aswell
Hopefully it’s a total waste of time tho with what China and India are doing
This is why we need to talk about this on a global scale and work together on a global scale.good luck with that China do what China wants and as no interest in slowing
They will if we stop buying so much shit!!
Laws on repair should also be tightened . Don’t take this as Brexit please as not intended but if we can get stuff nearer than the other side of the world then alternatives using high carbon transport should be taxed more .
It’s a simple thought but a nightmare to implement I know .
It’s nuts that we buy pegs and coat hangers from the other side of the world . We can make the simple crap closer to home . Also applies to food I agree mate we buy far to much shite from there but unless the rest of the world stop aswell won’t make a dent in all for buying British but look at the menus in restaurants pubs hospitals carehomes universities schools there’s a lot of pasta and rice on them we don’t grow that in the U.K. "They don't grow pasta anywhere. | |||
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"Preach all you like but after hearing these armagedon predictions since childhood i tend to take it with a pinch of salt,hope your doing your bit though get rid of your car no more holidays abroad,truth is my carbon footprint is probably smaller than yours is and im not even trying to save the planet How is it me who is preaching? You are the one "preaching" falsehoods. Facts are just facts for you to accept, or to challenge with contrary evidence. Preaching falsehoods and unsubstantiated and unproven opinions is what you are doing.falsehoods? How are they false if all these predictions have come to diddly squat Sea levels have gone up. Global temperatures have gone up. The ice caps are melting. Some might think these are slightly bad signs.but we was told we would of all fried by now or be living in waterworld none of wich happend so how am i preaching falsehoods i think thats the people who made those predictions So we should do nothing at all until things get really bad? You do you and allow others to do the same
The virtue signalling in this place worse by the day.
Yep because caring about the fate of the world as we know it is virtue signalling.
If you care so much, get off the Internet
I'm not allowed to be online or even to discuss this? I didn't get that memo.
Are you at all concerned by climate change? What do you think we should do about it?
I didn't say you couldn't, just pointing out how it's virtue signalling. The Internet uses between 10-20% of the works energy consumption.
I personally couldn't care less. Evolution at work.
You really don't care if there is catastrophic climate change? If new and extreme weather kills somebody you love, you'll just shrug and say: " it's "evolution at work."?
Bit extreme for it to happen suddenly.
Our elders left it in a worse state for us, as their elders did for them. That's called evolution.
Not sure that's quite how Darwin explained evolution...
Again, you really couldn't care less? If climate change damages, ruins or ends the life of somebody you love, you wouldn't care still?
Darwin spoke of biology, not climate.
I'll say it again, it won't happen suddenly.
I'll likely be in this world for 60-90 years and I'm gonna love my way so that I can enjoy it.
Once more, you do you and allow others the same courtesy
You're the 1 who started using the term evolution...
Anyway, you might find it harder to enjoy your life if climate change gets worse and worse. We're alreadys seeing signs this is happening with increasing extreme weather events.
And the whole "you do you" attitude doesn't work when there's a huge and serious threat to us all. We only deal with something like that by working together.so what is it you do to help with climate change ?
I do lots of simple things that many of us can do.
I walk wherever possible. I only use other forms of transport when I must. I rarely fly. I got a smart meter. I reduced water usage. I don't waste or bin any food. I don't splurge on clothes buying. I turn off any electrical items when I'm not using them. I recycle etcid guess many of us do that aswell
Hopefully it’s a total waste of time tho with what China and India are doing
This is why we need to talk about this on a global scale and work together on a global scale.good luck with that China do what China wants and as no interest in slowing
They will if we stop buying so much shit!!
Laws on repair should also be tightened . Don’t take this as Brexit please as not intended but if we can get stuff nearer than the other side of the world then alternatives using high carbon transport should be taxed more .
It’s a simple thought but a nightmare to implement I know .
It’s nuts that we buy pegs and coat hangers from the other side of the world . We can make the simple crap closer to home . Also applies to food I agree mate we buy far to much shite from there but unless the rest of the world stop aswell won’t make a dent in all for buying British but look at the menus in restaurants pubs hospitals carehomes universities schools there’s a lot of pasta and rice on them we don’t grow that in the U.K.
They don't grow pasta anywhere. "well done atleast you got the just tho lol | |||
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"Preach all you like but after hearing these armagedon predictions since childhood i tend to take it with a pinch of salt,hope your doing your bit though get rid of your car no more holidays abroad,truth is my carbon footprint is probably smaller than yours is and im not even trying to save the planet How is it me who is preaching? You are the one "preaching" falsehoods. Facts are just facts for you to accept, or to challenge with contrary evidence. Preaching falsehoods and unsubstantiated and unproven opinions is what you are doing.falsehoods? How are they false if all these predictions have come to diddly squat Sea levels have gone up. Global temperatures have gone up. The ice caps are melting. Some might think these are slightly bad signs.but we was told we would of all fried by now or be living in waterworld none of wich happend so how am i preaching falsehoods i think thats the people who made those predictions So we should do nothing at all until things get really bad? You do you and allow others to do the same
The virtue signalling in this place worse by the day.
Yep because caring about the fate of the world as we know it is virtue signalling.
If you care so much, get off the Internet
I'm not allowed to be online or even to discuss this? I didn't get that memo.
Are you at all concerned by climate change? What do you think we should do about it?
I didn't say you couldn't, just pointing out how it's virtue signalling. The Internet uses between 10-20% of the works energy consumption.
I personally couldn't care less. Evolution at work.
You really don't care if there is catastrophic climate change? If new and extreme weather kills somebody you love, you'll just shrug and say: " it's "evolution at work."?
Bit extreme for it to happen suddenly.
Our elders left it in a worse state for us, as their elders did for them. That's called evolution.
Not sure that's quite how Darwin explained evolution...
Again, you really couldn't care less? If climate change damages, ruins or ends the life of somebody you love, you wouldn't care still?
Darwin spoke of biology, not climate.
I'll say it again, it won't happen suddenly.
I'll likely be in this world for 60-90 years and I'm gonna love my way so that I can enjoy it.
Once more, you do you and allow others the same courtesy
You're the 1 who started using the term evolution...
Anyway, you might find it harder to enjoy your life if climate change gets worse and worse. We're alreadys seeing signs this is happening with increasing extreme weather events.
And the whole "you do you" attitude doesn't work when there's a huge and serious threat to us all. We only deal with something like that by working together.so what is it you do to help with climate change ?
I do lots of simple things that many of us can do.
I walk wherever possible. I only use other forms of transport when I must. I rarely fly. I got a smart meter. I reduced water usage. I don't waste or bin any food. I don't splurge on clothes buying. I turn off any electrical items when I'm not using them. I recycle etcid guess many of us do that aswell
Hopefully it’s a total waste of time tho with what China and India are doing
This is why we need to talk about this on a global scale and work together on a global scale.good luck with that China do what China wants and as no interest in slowing
They will if we stop buying so much shit!!
Laws on repair should also be tightened . Don’t take this as Brexit please as not intended but if we can get stuff nearer than the other side of the world then alternatives using high carbon transport should be taxed more .
It’s a simple thought but a nightmare to implement I know .
It’s nuts that we buy pegs and coat hangers from the other side of the world . We can make the simple crap closer to home . Also applies to food I agree mate we buy far to much shite from there but unless the rest of the world stop aswell won’t make a dent in all for buying British but look at the menus in restaurants pubs hospitals carehomes universities schools there’s a lot of pasta and rice on them we don’t grow that in the U.K. "Err! We grow wheat, what’s pasta made from ? | |||
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"we all live on a spinning sphere that is not only spinning its going round a very hot star along with that we have a moon going around us that affects the tides now this is all a very fine balancing act which we as humans have no control over at all. As there is no data as to the earths orbit around the sun who knows it could deviate every 100,200,1000,100,000 years which would explain why over the life of the earth it has been hot, temperate and cold. People dont want to hear this stuff as its human nature to be in control but the truth is we are all living on a runaway train with no driver and no idea when the ride will end. I am all for doing what we can to help with emissions it keeps people calm when they think that they have some control over what is happening and it cant do any harm but personally i dont think its man made its happened too many times in the past." Almost every reputable scientist in the world seems to disagree with you. | |||
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"we all live on a spinning sphere that is not only spinning its going round a very hot star along with that we have a moon going around us that affects the tides now this is all a very fine balancing act which we as humans have no control over at all. As there is no data as to the earths orbit around the sun who knows it could deviate every 100,200,1000,100,000 years which would explain why over the life of the earth it has been hot, temperate and cold. People dont want to hear this stuff as its human nature to be in control but the truth is we are all living on a runaway train with no driver and no idea when the ride will end. I am all for doing what we can to help with emissions it keeps people calm when they think that they have some control over what is happening and it cant do any harm but personally i dont think its man made its happened too many times in the past." Hi Costa I agree it has changed over millions of years but until man came along it’s never changed this quickly. That’s the worrying bit as changing slowly and nature adapts . Quickly and it’s a different ball game . We are a greedy destructive animal. | |||
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"I was surprised there was no thread on this. The IPCC report is in. It's been described as a "code red for humanity." How bad do you think this is? What should we do? What will we do?" There's nothing we can do really, we can attempt to reverse whatever we have done, but if it's as bad as they say then the universe and our little corner of it has its own way of sorting itself out, we will be wiped out like we were never here. This climate change movement is actually a perfect case of the selfishness of seemingly good deeds, because the planet will be fine, its been here billions of years... Its us that are fucked. | |||
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"we all live on a spinning sphere that is not only spinning its going round a very hot star along with that we have a moon going around us that affects the tides now this is all a very fine balancing act which we as humans have no control over at all. As there is no data as to the earths orbit around the sun who knows it could deviate every 100,200,1000,100,000 years which would explain why over the life of the earth it has been hot, temperate and cold. People dont want to hear this stuff as its human nature to be in control but the truth is we are all living on a runaway train with no driver and no idea when the ride will end. I am all for doing what we can to help with emissions it keeps people calm when they think that they have some control over what is happening and it cant do any harm but personally i dont think its man made its happened too many times in the past." | |||
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"we all live on a spinning sphere that is not only spinning its going round a very hot star along with that we have a moon going around us that affects the tides now this is all a very fine balancing act which we as humans have no control over at all. As there is no data as to the earths orbit around the sun who knows it could deviate every 100,200,1000,100,000 years which would explain why over the life of the earth it has been hot, temperate and cold. People dont want to hear this stuff as its human nature to be in control but the truth is we are all living on a runaway train with no driver and no idea when the ride will end. I am all for doing what we can to help with emissions it keeps people calm when they think that they have some control over what is happening and it cant do any harm but personally i dont think its man made its happened too many times in the past. Hi Costa I agree it has changed over millions of years but until man came along it’s never changed this quickly. That’s the worrying bit as changing slowly and nature adapts . Quickly and it’s a different ball game . We are a greedy destructive animal. " Has it though who knows some of the Sahara was forest we know this because there is oil there according to scientists the earth heated up which stopped the monsoons bringing the rain to it and it died. The med has dried out at least 5 times according to some science i have seen how quickly or slowly this happened who knows. Of course its heating up quickly now as we only came out of a mini ice age in 1840. Nobody is going to say we are all fucked and there is nothing we can do and only some will survive what would that do to world order? personally i think its going to get worse and worse whatever we do. | |||
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"we all live on a spinning sphere that is not only spinning its going round a very hot star along with that we have a moon going around us that affects the tides now this is all a very fine balancing act which we as humans have no control over at all. As there is no data as to the earths orbit around the sun who knows it could deviate every 100,200,1000,100,000 years which would explain why over the life of the earth it has been hot, temperate and cold. People dont want to hear this stuff as its human nature to be in control but the truth is we are all living on a runaway train with no driver and no idea when the ride will end. I am all for doing what we can to help with emissions it keeps people calm when they think that they have some control over what is happening and it cant do any harm but personally i dont think its man made its happened too many times in the past. Hi Costa I agree it has changed over millions of years but until man came along it’s never changed this quickly. That’s the worrying bit as changing slowly and nature adapts . Quickly and it’s a different ball game . We are a greedy destructive animal. Has it though who knows some of the Sahara was forest we know this because there is oil there according to scientists the earth heated up which stopped the monsoons bringing the rain to it and it died. The med has dried out at least 5 times according to some science i have seen how quickly or slowly this happened who knows. Of course its heating up quickly now as we only came out of a mini ice age in 1840. Nobody is going to say we are all fucked and there is nothing we can do and only some will survive what would that do to world order? personally i think its going to get worse and worse whatever we do." Maybe it will get worse but it won’t hurt to slow it down if we can . Yes the geologists are pretty good at timelines now and now is the fastest . We are accelerating our own demise . | |||
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"I was surprised there was no thread on this. The IPCC report is in. It's been described as a "code red for humanity." How bad do you think this is? What should we do? What will we do? There's nothing we can do really, we can attempt to reverse whatever we have done, but if it's as bad as they say then the universe and our little corner of it has its own way of sorting itself out, we will be wiped out like we were never here. This climate change movement is actually a perfect case of the selfishness of seemingly good deeds, because the planet will be fine, its been here billions of years... Its us that are fucked. " That’s so true the planet will regenerate and like you say humanity will be gone | |||
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"I'm a bit sceptical about it. When the flood hit Noah were there cars and industrial factories and gas boilers. When the ice age finished were there diesel engines, nuclear power stations and methane burping rubbish tips. Take man out of the equation and floods and fires would still be battering the earth just as badly. Man is a polluting little animal just look what he did to the moon and now Mars. I think the Earth will out live man and flourish. " Tend to agree with you  | |||
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"I was surprised there was no thread on this. The IPCC report is in. It's been described as a "code red for humanity." How bad do you think this is? What should we do? What will we do?" We do not have the collective will to make the necessary changes to avert stuff like this. Too much big interests wanting to keep the status quo. I think we need to adapt to the new reality, because I do not think we can change anything now. | |||
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"I was surprised there was no thread on this. The IPCC report is in. It's been described as a "code red for humanity." How bad do you think this is? What should we do? What will we do?" What I think is that our leaders, the uber rich and the powerful who espouse these views won't be enduring equally whatever long term pain they prescribe for us mere taxpayers. As we've seen throughout lockdown 'important' people have been jetting around the globe doing all sorts of things that the rest of us can now only dream of. Whatever prices rises and restrictions that are enforced upon us will not be applied to them any more than tey were in Communist Russia where the elite lived the high life as they watched millions starving. | |||
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"Realistically world population has doubled since the 70’s and that the issue here it not carbon we release it the sheer volume of us realising carbon and growing animals for food we as a species are to successful and that’s what is damaging the planet " Yep stop people having kids and reduce world population, perhaps China just tried with covid? Too many people per sqm! | |||
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"Realistically world population has doubled since the 70’s and that the issue here it not carbon we release it the sheer volume of us realising carbon and growing animals for food we as a species are to successful and that’s what is damaging the planet "
David Attenborough was begging to mention the population boom, and suddenly went quiet. I thonk he was told to shut up. | |||
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"That's not an accurate or fair portrayal of communist Russia ...it's how the corporate elite would like you to view Russia because they are terrified of socialist revolution. " | |||
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"Realistically world population has doubled since the 70’s and that the issue here it not carbon we release it the sheer volume of us realising carbon and growing animals for food we as a species are to successful and that’s what is damaging the planet
David Attenborough was begging to mention the population boom, and suddenly went quiet. I thonk he was told to shut up. "1 billion people 120 years ago now 8 plus and going up , it’s something the politicians won’t mention | |||
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"The climate has always got warmer and got cooler. The Thames used to regularly ice over. The Romans cultivated grapes in the north of England. Greenland used to be farmed. The whole climate change thing is a tax-raising scam" How much pollution was around when the Romans were in England?  | |||
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"The climate has always got warmer and got cooler. The Thames used to regularly ice over. The Romans cultivated grapes in the north of England. Greenland used to be farmed. The whole climate change thing is a tax-raising scam How much pollution was around when the Romans were in England? "Good point. It was warmer 2000 years ago and pollution was minimal. Climate is always changing. This is a scam | |||
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"The climate has always got warmer and got cooler. The Thames used to regularly ice over. The Romans cultivated grapes in the north of England. Greenland used to be farmed. The whole climate change thing is a tax-raising scam How much pollution was around when the Romans were in England?
Good point. It was warmer 2000 years ago and pollution was minimal.
Climate is always changing. This is a scam"Says a man on a sex site | |||
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"The climate has always got warmer and got cooler. The Thames used to regularly ice over. The Romans cultivated grapes in the north of England. Greenland used to be farmed. The whole climate change thing is a tax-raising scam How much pollution was around when the Romans were in England?
Good point. It was warmer 2000 years ago and pollution was minimal.
Climate is always changing. This is a scam
Says a man on a sex site "Can you answer the points? Why was it warmer in the past? I'm still awaiting the promised ice age | |||
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"The climate has always got warmer and got cooler. The Thames used to regularly ice over. The Romans cultivated grapes in the north of England. Greenland used to be farmed. The whole climate change thing is a tax-raising scam How much pollution was around when the Romans were in England?
Good point. It was warmer 2000 years ago and pollution was minimal.
Climate is always changing. This is a scam
Says a man on a sex site
Can you answer the points? Why was it warmer in the past?
I'm still awaiting the promised ice age "PMSL, let me guess, you think COVID is a scam? The vaccine isn’t safe? You voted for Brexit ? Where is your proof it was warmer in the past? | |||
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"Not that hard to find, actually . .. Between 600 AD and 1200 AD it was .01 degrees warmer than it is current day. I'm not in any way debunking current warming, but the above are scientific facts. "And then there was a mini ice age in the medieval period. Climate is always changing and always has done | |||
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"The thermometer was invented in 1612 "How do you know it is getting historically warmer then?
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"Not that hard to find, actually . .. Between 600 AD and 1200 AD it was .01 degrees warmer than it is current day. I'm not in any way debunking current warming, but the above are scientific facts.
And then there was a mini ice age in the medieval period.
Climate is always changing and always has done"Yup. In around 500 AD the temperature started to rise until around 850 AD when it started to fall again, right down until the Medieval Mini ice age in 1400 to 1800 and is now rising again - but is still .01 degrees lower than it's peak around 850 AD. | |||
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"0.01 degrees is very specific and minuscule, but not to worry, let’s just carry ignore the scientists and pretend it’s all a global ‘ tax avoiding scam’ " Why not answer the points I raised above? It's about tax and you know it... otherwise, why not answer the points? | |||
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"The thermometer was invented in 1612
How do you know it is getting historically warmer then?
How do you explain ice fairs on the Thames? Or farming in Greenland hundreds of years ago?"Freak weather? I remember the canals near me freezing 10 years ago, hasn’t happened since Can you explain why the current ‘climate crisis’ is just a global ‘tax avoiding scam ‘ | |||
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"0.01 degrees is very specific and minuscule, but not to worry, let’s just carry ignore the scientists and pretend it’s all a global ‘ tax avoiding scam’ Why not answer the points I raised above? It's about tax and you know it... otherwise, why not answer the points?" Why is it? Give me one plausible reason why it’s a ‘tax avoidance scam’? Who will benefit ? Let me guess , you think COVID is a scam? The vaccine is a scam ? | |||
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"0.01 degrees is very specific and minuscule, but not to worry, let’s just carry ignore the scientists and pretend it’s all a global ‘ tax avoiding scam’ Why not answer the points I raised above? It's about tax and you know it... otherwise, why not answer the points? Why is it? Give me one plausible reason why it’s a ‘tax avoidance scam’? Who will benefit ? Let me guess , you think COVID is a scam? The vaccine is a scam ? " Yes, it's about tax. A cover story to increase the prices of fuel, driving, holidays etc. ALL tax I dread to think how poor people will manage the coming fuel poverty. So why the Thames ice fairs? The vines in Roman Britain? Farming in Greenland? Freak weather | |||
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"0.01 degrees is very specific and minuscule, but not to worry, let’s just carry ignore the scientists and pretend it’s all a global ‘ tax avoiding scam’ Why not answer the points I raised above? It's about tax and you know it... otherwise, why not answer the points? Why is it? Give me one plausible reason why it’s a ‘tax avoidance scam’? Who will benefit ? Let me guess , you think COVID is a scam? The vaccine is a scam ? Yes, it's about tax. A cover story to increase the prices of fuel, driving, holidays etc. ALL tax I dread to think how poor people will manage the coming fuel poverty. So why the Thames ice fairs? The vines in Roman Britain? Farming in Greenland? Freak weather "Yes , freak weather, so who has decided to create a global climate ‘crisis’ for tax avoidance? Who is in charge? Who will benefit? How have they managed to bribe all these scientists ? | |||
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"Do you know the difference between weather and climate?" Yes, do you , why don’t you try answering the questions | |||
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"Do you know the difference between weather and climate? Yes, do you , why don’t you try answering the questions "The question is, if the earth is warming then is it man-made? The historical existence of Greenland farming, grapes in Britain, Thames ice fairs tends to suggest there are different factors at work. For you to 'explain' them away as due to 'freak weather: is laughable | |||
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"Do you know the difference between weather and climate? Yes, do you , why don’t you try answering the questions
The question is, if the earth is warming then is it man-made? The historical existence of Greenland farming, grapes in Britain, Thames ice fairs tends to suggest there are different factors at work.
For you to 'explain' them away as due to 'freak weather: is laughable"What are these other factors? So who has decided to create a global climate ‘crisis’ for tax avoidance? Who is in charge? Who will benefit? How have they managed to bribe all these scientists ? | |||
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"Do you know the difference between weather and climate? Yes, do you , why don’t you try answering the questions
The question is, if the earth is warming then is it man-made? The historical existence of Greenland farming, grapes in Britain, Thames ice fairs tends to suggest there are different factors at work.
For you to 'explain' them away as due to 'freak weather: is laughable"You can still grow grapes in Britain The Thames was frozen over in 1963 There is currently farming in Greenland | |||
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"The climate has always got warmer and got cooler. The Thames used to regularly ice over. The Romans cultivated grapes in the north of England. Greenland used to be farmed. The whole climate change thing is a tax-raising scam" i tend to agree and scientists are always arguing among themselves about the size of their theory! fact is there were huge swings in climate before the invention of the wheel lol But if we do go with the man made argument... stop breeding! stop buying stuff... etc people might actually be happier.... imagine that! | |||
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"Still not knocking the Climate Change Debate . . . but . . . Scientists do love a Research Grant "Yes, and they don't get grants if they question the orthodoxy. Many do question the orthodoxy but...it costs them dear to tell the truth. It happens in other areas too. David Bellamy was cancelled by the BBC for speaking out. The bullying verges on the fascistic and it is accelerating | |||
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"Still not knocking the Climate Change Debate . . . but . . . Scientists do love a Research Grant "and the chance to release a book if possible..... they must hate hawkings! book and a film! a film! | |||
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"Still not knocking the Climate Change Debate . . . but . . . Scientists do love a Research Grant
Yes, and they don't get grants if they question the orthodoxy. Many do question the orthodoxy but...it costs them dear to tell the truth.
It happens in other areas too. David Bellamy was cancelled by the BBC for speaking out.
The bullying verges on the fascistic and it is accelerating"Any idea why it’s all just a ‘tax avoiding scam’ ?? | |||
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"Still not knocking the Climate Change Debate . . . but . . . Scientists do love a Research Grant "Stop encouraging, naughty. | |||
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"Still not knocking the Climate Change Debate . . . but . . . Scientists do love a Research Grant
Stop encouraging, naughty. "lol. | |||
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"Still not knocking the Climate Change Debate . . . but . . . Scientists do love a Research Grant
Yes, and they don't get grants if they question the orthodoxy. Many do question the orthodoxy but...it costs them dear to tell the truth.
It happens in other areas too. David Bellamy was cancelled by the BBC for speaking out.
The bullying verges on the fascistic and it is accelerating
Any idea why it’s all just a ‘tax avoiding scam’ ??"It's not a 'tax avoiding scam'. It's a tax-raising scam | |||
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"There will have always been fluctuations in the climate, warming and cooling over the billions of years the planet has evolved. The issue seems to be these fluctuations are happening more quicker than before and are linked to human activity. Not either a sceptic or an extinction rebellion activist but neither naive to think our increasing population and the demand for natural resources don't have some impact. " since mac donalds and cola, more people take drugs, i therefore conclude, cola and big macs cause drug taking! theres a link, prove me wrong lol like other posters have stated and we all know, why did the ice age end? not a car or power station in sight.... I still think humans arent helping but its not clear cut, IMHO | |||
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"Still not knocking the Climate Change Debate . . . but . . . Scientists do love a Research Grant
Yes, and they don't get grants if they question the orthodoxy. Many do question the orthodoxy but...it costs them dear to tell the truth.
It happens in other areas too. David Bellamy was cancelled by the BBC for speaking out.
The bullying verges on the fascistic and it is accelerating
Any idea why it’s all just a ‘tax avoiding scam’ ??
It's not a 'tax avoiding scam'. It's a tax-raising scam"How? Why? Who? | |||
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"After reading the many comments, I remain unconvinced that we have any capacity to save ourselves. There is no collective will to address the problem. If you cannot convince the howlers that its not a natural variance in here, then how can anyone convince those who can actually make a difference?" Ain't that the truth - Humanity will just argue about the arguing, while cooking a marshmallow over a lava hot rock | |||
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"Still not knocking the Climate Change Debate . . . but . . . Scientists do love a Research Grant
Yes, and they don't get grants if they question the orthodoxy. Many do question the orthodoxy but...it costs them dear to tell the truth.
It happens in other areas too. David Bellamy was cancelled by the BBC for speaking out.
The bullying verges on the fascistic and it is accelerating
Any idea why it’s all just a ‘tax avoiding scam’ ??
It's not a 'tax avoiding scam'. It's a tax-raising scam
How? Why? Who? "Hmmm Look up CCL and the Government collect it. | |||
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"Still not knocking the Climate Change Debate . . . but . . . Scientists do love a Research Grant
Yes, and they don't get grants if they question the orthodoxy. Many do question the orthodoxy but...it costs them dear to tell the truth.
It happens in other areas too. David Bellamy was cancelled by the BBC for speaking out.
The bullying verges on the fascistic and it is accelerating
Any idea why it’s all just a ‘tax avoiding scam’ ??
It's not a 'tax avoiding scam'. It's a tax-raising scam
How? Why? Who? "it is a convenient wagon to attach taxes to.... jump on | |||
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"Still not knocking the Climate Change Debate . . . but . . . Scientists do love a Research Grant
Yes, and they don't get grants if they question the orthodoxy. Many do question the orthodoxy but...it costs them dear to tell the truth.
It happens in other areas too. David Bellamy was cancelled by the BBC for speaking out.
The bullying verges on the fascistic and it is accelerating
Any idea why it’s all just a ‘tax avoiding scam’ ??
It's not a 'tax avoiding scam'. It's a tax-raising scam
How? Why? Who? "Very naive if you don't see that there are tens of billions of pounds of vested interests. These taxes are given by governments to them. Do you have any idea of 'renewable energy' economics? | |||
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"taxing the sky is brilliant lol what can we tax, weve done windows, sugar, alcohol..... hmmmm the fucking air! lol" This | |||
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"Still not knocking the Climate Change Debate . . . but . . . Scientists do love a Research Grant
Yes, and they don't get grants if they question the orthodoxy. Many do question the orthodoxy but...it costs them dear to tell the truth.
It happens in other areas too. David Bellamy was cancelled by the BBC for speaking out.
The bullying verges on the fascistic and it is accelerating
Any idea why it’s all just a ‘tax avoiding scam’ ??
It's not a 'tax avoiding scam'. It's a tax-raising scam
How? Why? Who?
Very naive if you don't see that there are tens of billions of pounds of vested interests.
These taxes are given by governments to them.
Do you have any idea of 'renewable energy' economics?"Very naive if you don’t see that renewable energy is just replacing the old heavily taxed forms of energy , so I will ask again, why create a crisis to raise taxes | |||
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"Still not knocking the Climate Change Debate . . . but . . . Scientists do love a Research Grant
Yes, and they don't get grants if they question the orthodoxy. Many do question the orthodoxy but...it costs them dear to tell the truth.
It happens in other areas too. David Bellamy was cancelled by the BBC for speaking out.
The bullying verges on the fascistic and it is accelerating
Any idea why it’s all just a ‘tax avoiding scam’ ??
It's not a 'tax avoiding scam'. It's a tax-raising scam
How? Why? Who?
Very naive if you don't see that there are tens of billions of pounds of vested interests.
These taxes are given by governments to them.
Do you have any idea of 'renewable energy' economics?
Very naive if you don’t see that renewable energy is just replacing the old heavily taxed forms of energy , so I will ask again, why create a crisis to raise taxes "Do you understand how energy is priced? The impact of 'carbon charges'? All baked into the bill. It's a huge transfer of wealth from the poor to the wealthy who are lobbying for even more. Do you even care about poverty? | |||
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"Still not knocking the Climate Change Debate . . . but . . . Scientists do love a Research Grant
Yes, and they don't get grants if they question the orthodoxy. Many do question the orthodoxy but...it costs them dear to tell the truth.
It happens in other areas too. David Bellamy was cancelled by the BBC for speaking out.
The bullying verges on the fascistic and it is accelerating
Any idea why it’s all just a ‘tax avoiding scam’ ??
It's not a 'tax avoiding scam'. It's a tax-raising scam
How? Why? Who?
Very naive if you don't see that there are tens of billions of pounds of vested interests.
These taxes are given by governments to them.
Do you have any idea of 'renewable energy' economics?
Very naive if you don’t see that renewable energy is just replacing the old heavily taxed forms of energy , so I will ask again, why create a crisis to raise taxes
Do you understand how energy is priced? The impact of 'carbon charges'?
All baked into the bill. It's a huge transfer of wealth from the poor to the wealthy who are lobbying for even more.
Do you even care about poverty?"Yes, do you? | |||
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"Still not knocking the Climate Change Debate . . . but . . . Scientists do love a Research Grant
Yes, and they don't get grants if they question the orthodoxy. Many do question the orthodoxy but...it costs them dear to tell the truth.
It happens in other areas too. David Bellamy was cancelled by the BBC for speaking out.
The bullying verges on the fascistic and it is accelerating
Any idea why it’s all just a ‘tax avoiding scam’ ??
It's not a 'tax avoiding scam'. It's a tax-raising scam
How? Why? Who?
Very naive if you don't see that there are tens of billions of pounds of vested interests.
These taxes are given by governments to them.
Do you have any idea of 'renewable energy' economics?
Very naive if you don’t see that renewable energy is just replacing the old heavily taxed forms of energy , so I will ask again, why create a crisis to raise taxes
Do you understand how energy is priced? The impact of 'carbon charges'?
All baked into the bill. It's a huge transfer of wealth from the poor to the wealthy who are lobbying for even more.
Do you even care about poverty?
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"Still not knocking the Climate Change Debate . . . but . . . Scientists do love a Research Grant
Yes, and they don't get grants if they question the orthodoxy. Many do question the orthodoxy but...it costs them dear to tell the truth.
It happens in other areas too. David Bellamy was cancelled by the BBC for speaking out.
The bullying verges on the fascistic and it is accelerating
Any idea why it’s all just a ‘tax avoiding scam’ ??
It's not a 'tax avoiding scam'. It's a tax-raising scam
How? Why? Who?
Very naive if you don't see that there are tens of billions of pounds of vested interests.
These taxes are given by governments to them.
Do you have any idea of 'renewable energy' economics?
Very naive if you don’t see that renewable energy is just replacing the old heavily taxed forms of energy , so I will ask again, why create a crisis to raise taxes
Do you understand how energy is priced? The impact of 'carbon charges'?
All baked into the bill. It's a huge transfer of wealth from the poor to the wealthy who are lobbying for even more.
Do you even care about poverty?"and lets go cashless so poor people can not hide money under the mattress... milk them milk them..... | |||
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"Still not knocking the Climate Change Debate . . . but . . . Scientists do love a Research Grant
Yes, and they don't get grants if they question the orthodoxy. Many do question the orthodoxy but...it costs them dear to tell the truth.
It happens in other areas too. David Bellamy was cancelled by the BBC for speaking out.
The bullying verges on the fascistic and it is accelerating
Any idea why it’s all just a ‘tax avoiding scam’ ??
It's not a 'tax avoiding scam'. It's a tax-raising scam
How? Why? Who?
Very naive if you don't see that there are tens of billions of pounds of vested interests.
These taxes are given by governments to them.
Do you have any idea of 'renewable energy' economics?
Very naive if you don’t see that renewable energy is just replacing the old heavily taxed forms of energy , so I will ask again, why create a crisis to raise taxes
Do you understand how energy is priced? The impact of 'carbon charges'?
All baked into the bill. It's a huge transfer of wealth from the poor to the wealthy who are lobbying for even more.
Do you even care about poverty?
Yes, do you?
Yes, I'd reduce taxes on staying warm and cooking to nil.
How do you care when you support extra taxes/charges?"And how are you going to do that? Can you explain you explain what this has to do with you ‘climate crisis scam ‘ conspiracy? Energy is already heavily taxed , | |||
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"Still not knocking the Climate Change Debate . . . but . . . Scientists do love a Research Grant
Yes, and they don't get grants if they question the orthodoxy. Many do question the orthodoxy but...it costs them dear to tell the truth.
It happens in other areas too. David Bellamy was cancelled by the BBC for speaking out.
The bullying verges on the fascistic and it is accelerating
Any idea why it’s all just a ‘tax avoiding scam’ ??
It's not a 'tax avoiding scam'. It's a tax-raising scam
How? Why? Who?
Very naive if you don't see that there are tens of billions of pounds of vested interests.
These taxes are given by governments to them.
Do you have any idea of 'renewable energy' economics?
Very naive if you don’t see that renewable energy is just replacing the old heavily taxed forms of energy , so I will ask again, why create a crisis to raise taxes
Do you understand how energy is priced? The impact of 'carbon charges'?
All baked into the bill. It's a huge transfer of wealth from the poor to the wealthy who are lobbying for even more.
Do you even care about poverty?
Yes, do you?
Yes, I'd reduce taxes on staying warm and cooking to nil.
How do you care when you support extra taxes/charges?
And how are you going to do that? Can you explain you explain what this has to do with you ‘climate crisis scam ‘ conspiracy? Energy is already heavily taxed , "How can you care about poverty when you support the measures that force people into poverty? | |||
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"Still not knocking the Climate Change Debate . . . but . . . Scientists do love a Research Grant
Yes, and they don't get grants if they question the orthodoxy. Many do question the orthodoxy but...it costs them dear to tell the truth.
It happens in other areas too. David Bellamy was cancelled by the BBC for speaking out.
The bullying verges on the fascistic and it is accelerating
Any idea why it’s all just a ‘tax avoiding scam’ ??
It's not a 'tax avoiding scam'. It's a tax-raising scam
How? Why? Who?
Very naive if you don't see that there are tens of billions of pounds of vested interests.
These taxes are given by governments to them.
Do you have any idea of 'renewable energy' economics?
Very naive if you don’t see that renewable energy is just replacing the old heavily taxed forms of energy , so I will ask again, why create a crisis to raise taxes
Do you understand how energy is priced? The impact of 'carbon charges'?
All baked into the bill. It's a huge transfer of wealth from the poor to the wealthy who are lobbying for even more.
Do you even care about poverty?
Yes, do you?
Yes, I'd reduce taxes on staying warm and cooking to nil.
How do you care when you support extra taxes/charges?
And how are you going to do that? Can you explain you explain what this has to do with you ‘climate crisis scam ‘ conspiracy? Energy is already heavily taxed ,
How can you care about poverty when you support the measures that force people into poverty?"As you ignore my questions I will ignore yours And how are you going to do that? Can you explain you explain what this has to do with you ‘climate crisis scam ‘ conspiracy? Energy is already heavily taxed , | |||
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"Still not knocking the Climate Change Debate . . . but . . . Scientists do love a Research Grant
Yes, and they don't get grants if they question the orthodoxy. Many do question the orthodoxy but...it costs them dear to tell the truth.
It happens in other areas too. David Bellamy was cancelled by the BBC for speaking out.
The bullying verges on the fascistic and it is accelerating
Any idea why it’s all just a ‘tax avoiding scam’ ??
It's not a 'tax avoiding scam'. It's a tax-raising scam
How? Why? Who?
Very naive if you don't see that there are tens of billions of pounds of vested interests.
These taxes are given by governments to them.
Do you have any idea of 'renewable energy' economics?
Very naive if you don’t see that renewable energy is just replacing the old heavily taxed forms of energy , so I will ask again, why create a crisis to raise taxes
Do you understand how energy is priced? The impact of 'carbon charges'?
All baked into the bill. It's a huge transfer of wealth from the poor to the wealthy who are lobbying for even more.
Do you even care about poverty?
Yes, do you?
Yes, I'd reduce taxes on staying warm and cooking to nil.
How do you care when you support extra taxes/charges?"That's the price you pay for decade's of ignoring global warming warnings and coming up with total deluded shit but hey fuck the science. The poverty global warming will cause is unbearable to imagine. | |||
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"Its quite obvious there are way to many of us on the planet for it to be self sufficient and cope any longer, population density and pollution are clearly linked but nobody seems to want to talk about population control. We as a species have a lot to learn from the animal world in this." That is true, | |||
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"Still not knocking the Climate Change Debate . . . but . . . Scientists do love a Research Grant
Yes, and they don't get grants if they question the orthodoxy. Many do question the orthodoxy but...it costs them dear to tell the truth.
It happens in other areas too. David Bellamy was cancelled by the BBC for speaking out.
The bullying verges on the fascistic and it is accelerating
Any idea why it’s all just a ‘tax avoiding scam’ ??
It's not a 'tax avoiding scam'. It's a tax-raising scam
How? Why? Who?
Very naive if you don't see that there are tens of billions of pounds of vested interests.
These taxes are given by governments to them.
Do you have any idea of 'renewable energy' economics?
Very naive if you don’t see that renewable energy is just replacing the old heavily taxed forms of energy , so I will ask again, why create a crisis to raise taxes
Do you understand how energy is priced? The impact of 'carbon charges'?
All baked into the bill. It's a huge transfer of wealth from the poor to the wealthy who are lobbying for even more.
Do you even care about poverty?
Yes, do you?
Yes, I'd reduce taxes on staying warm and cooking to nil.
How do you care when you support extra taxes/charges?
And how are you going to do that? Can you explain you explain what this has to do with you ‘climate crisis scam ‘ conspiracy? Energy is already heavily taxed ,
How can you care about poverty when you support the measures that force people into poverty?
As you ignore my questions I will ignore yours
And how are you going to do that? Can you explain you explain what this has to do with you ‘climate crisis scam ‘ conspiracy? Energy is already heavily taxed , "Yes. I've already explained. These taxes already on energy bills are 'green levies' and carbon charges. They are taken from the consumer...forcing up prices...and given to the investors in the green scam. People like you want this injustice to be accelerated. You support a vast transfer of wealth from the poor to the wealthy. Well done | |||
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"Still not knocking the Climate Change Debate . . . but . . . Scientists do love a Research Grant
Yes, and they don't get grants if they question the orthodoxy. Many do question the orthodoxy but...it costs them dear to tell the truth.
It happens in other areas too. David Bellamy was cancelled by the BBC for speaking out.
The bullying verges on the fascistic and it is accelerating
Any idea why it’s all just a ‘tax avoiding scam’ ??
It's not a 'tax avoiding scam'. It's a tax-raising scam
How? Why? Who?
Very naive if you don't see that there are tens of billions of pounds of vested interests.
These taxes are given by governments to them.
Do you have any idea of 'renewable energy' economics?
Very naive if you don’t see that renewable energy is just replacing the old heavily taxed forms of energy , so I will ask again, why create a crisis to raise taxes
Do you understand how energy is priced? The impact of 'carbon charges'?
All baked into the bill. It's a huge transfer of wealth from the poor to the wealthy who are lobbying for even more.
Do you even care about poverty?
Yes, do you?
Yes, I'd reduce taxes on staying warm and cooking to nil.
How do you care when you support extra taxes/charges?
And how are you going to do that? Can you explain you explain what this has to do with you ‘climate crisis scam ‘ conspiracy? Energy is already heavily taxed ,
How can you care about poverty when you support the measures that force people into poverty?
As you ignore my questions I will ignore yours
And how are you going to do that? Can you explain you explain what this has to do with you ‘climate crisis scam ‘ conspiracy? Energy is already heavily taxed ,
Yes. I've already explained. These taxes already on energy bills are 'green levies' and carbon charges. They are taken from the consumer...forcing up prices...and given to the investors in the green scam. People like you want this injustice to be accelerated.
You support a vast transfer of wealth from the poor to the wealthy. Well done"And how are you going to do that? Can you explain you explain what this has to do with you ‘climate crisis scam ‘ conspiracy? Energy is already heavily taxed | |||
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"Still not knocking the Climate Change Debate . . . but . . . Scientists do love a Research Grant
Yes, and they don't get grants if they question the orthodoxy. Many do question the orthodoxy but...it costs them dear to tell the truth.
It happens in other areas too. David Bellamy was cancelled by the BBC for speaking out.
The bullying verges on the fascistic and it is accelerating
Any idea why it’s all just a ‘tax avoiding scam’ ??
It's not a 'tax avoiding scam'. It's a tax-raising scam
How? Why? Who?
Very naive if you don't see that there are tens of billions of pounds of vested interests.
These taxes are given by governments to them.
Do you have any idea of 'renewable energy' economics?
Very naive if you don’t see that renewable energy is just replacing the old heavily taxed forms of energy , so I will ask again, why create a crisis to raise taxes
Do you understand how energy is priced? The impact of 'carbon charges'?
All baked into the bill. It's a huge transfer of wealth from the poor to the wealthy who are lobbying for even more.
Do you even care about poverty?
Yes, do you?
Yes, I'd reduce taxes on staying warm and cooking to nil.
How do you care when you support extra taxes/charges?
And how are you going to do that? Can you explain you explain what this has to do with you ‘climate crisis scam ‘ conspiracy? Energy is already heavily taxed ,
How can you care about poverty when you support the measures that force people into poverty?
As you ignore my questions I will ignore yours
And how are you going to do that? Can you explain you explain what this has to do with you ‘climate crisis scam ‘ conspiracy? Energy is already heavily taxed ,
Yes. I've already explained. These taxes already on energy bills are 'green levies' and carbon charges. They are taken from the consumer...forcing up prices...and given to the investors in the green scam. People like you want this injustice to be accelerated.
You support a vast transfer of wealth from the poor to the wealthy. Well done
And how are you going to do that? Can you explain you explain what this has to do with you ‘climate crisis scam ‘ conspiracy? Energy is already heavily taxed "See my answer above. Actually, I'll cut and paste it so you have no excuse: 'Yes. I've already explained. These taxes already on energy bills are 'green levies' and carbon charges. They are taken from the consumer...forcing up prices...and given to the investors in the green scam. People like you want this injustice to be accelerated. You support a vast transfer of wealth from the poor to the wealthy. Well done' | |||
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These are just some off the things happening here if you look abroad there are wildfires, hurricanes, tornados, melting polar ice caps and so forth...
People are free to believe or make their own decision but from what I can see be it reports being accurate or even exaggerated there is a noticeable change..
Just my prospective/take on it... | |||
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"Still not knocking the Climate Change Debate . . . but . . . Scientists do love a Research Grant
Yes, and they don't get grants if they question the orthodoxy. Many do question the orthodoxy but...it costs them dear to tell the truth.
It happens in other areas too. David Bellamy was cancelled by the BBC for speaking out.
The bullying verges on the fascistic and it is accelerating
Any idea why it’s all just a ‘tax avoiding scam’ ??
It's not a 'tax avoiding scam'. It's a tax-raising scam
How? Why? Who?
Very naive if you don't see that there are tens of billions of pounds of vested interests.
These taxes are given by governments to them.
Do you have any idea of 'renewable energy' economics?
Very naive if you don’t see that renewable energy is just replacing the old heavily taxed forms of energy , so I will ask again, why create a crisis to raise taxes
Do you understand how energy is priced? The impact of 'carbon charges'?
All baked into the bill. It's a huge transfer of wealth from the poor to the wealthy who are lobbying for even more.
Do you even care about poverty?
Yes, do you?
Yes, I'd reduce taxes on staying warm and cooking to nil.
How do you care when you support extra taxes/charges?
And how are you going to do that? Can you explain you explain what this has to do with you ‘climate crisis scam ‘ conspiracy? Energy is already heavily taxed ,
How can you care about poverty when you support the measures that force people into poverty?
As you ignore my questions I will ignore yours
And how are you going to do that? Can you explain you explain what this has to do with you ‘climate crisis scam ‘ conspiracy? Energy is already heavily taxed ,
Yes. I've already explained. These taxes already on energy bills are 'green levies' and carbon charges. They are taken from the consumer...forcing up prices...and given to the investors in the green scam. People like you want this injustice to be accelerated.
You support a vast transfer of wealth from the poor to the wealthy. Well done"So you favour the even distribution of wealth then? Excellent news comrade! | |||
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"In my own opinion I honestly see it from a perspective off facts and what is happening not only in the U.K. but also world wide it is happening around us as we speak.. For instance in the last 10 years we have seen an increase in: - Heatwaves and rising temperatures during summer time which was not as prevalent as in the past. - polar vortex, now I get Britain is famous for at times rough weather but even that is unusual for over here. - increased flooding, (okay maybe not so much on climate change part but I figured I would add that) - when they test air pollution levels they seem to be increasing in certain parts off the nation - was even reported a small tornado down south not so long ago
These are just some off the things happening here if you look abroad there are wildfires, hurricanes, tornados, melting polar ice caps and so forth...
People are free to believe or make their own decision but from what I can see be it reports being accurate or even exaggerated there is a noticeable change..
Just my prospective/take on it..."Read the thread..... there were no power stations to end the ice age....etc etc... | |||
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"I'm a bit sceptical about it. When the flood hit Noah were there cars and industrial factories and gas boilers. When the ice age finished were there diesel engines, nuclear power stations and methane burping rubbish tips. Take man out of the equation and floods and fires would still be battering the earth just as badly. Man is a polluting little animal just look what he did to the moon and now Mars. I think the Earth will out live man and flourish. " | |||
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" Read the thread..... there were no power stations to end the ice age....etc etc... " I can read fine thank you very much, also I made zero mention off “power stations ending ice ages or etc etc..” that’s coming from you not me so don’t it get confused I was merely making an observation/opinion off what I have seen first hand around me over the years not some reports.. If a major climate shift is due with or without human interference or cause but let’s face it that it’s a big contributing factor then that is just life.. I’ve said my opinion and left it at that I’m not going to be drawn into some back and forth with you... | |||
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" Read the thread..... there were no power stations to end the ice age....etc etc... I can read fine thank you very much, also I made zero mention off “power stations ending ice ages or etc etc..” that’s coming from you not me so don’t it get confused I was merely making an observation/opinion off what I have seen first hand around me over the years not some reports.. If a major climate shift is due with or without human interference or cause but let’s face it that it’s a big contributing factor then that is just life.. I’ve said my opinion and left it at that I’m not going to be drawn into some back and forth with you..." it reads as if youve ignored every other post and just added your post it note, which is the mantra at the minute.... im not interested in back and forth with you lol like as if i would! | |||
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" it reads as if youve ignored every other post and just added your post it note, which is the mantra at the minute.... im not interested in back and forth with you lol like as if i would! "Really? On that note it reads as if you tried to bait me but failed miserably by coming out with some gibberish then trying to pass it off as if I said it then continued with you’re usual sarcastic “mantra”.. It’s pretty sad really when people’s highlight off the day seems to be to try getting reactions on an online forum.. Ah well can’t be helped have a nice life anyway I’m sure one day you will find something more better/productive to do | |||
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" it reads as if youve ignored every other post and just added your post it note, which is the mantra at the minute.... im not interested in back and forth with you lol like as if i would!
Really? On that note it reads as if you tried to bait me but failed miserably by coming out with some gibberish then trying to pass it off as if I said it then continued with you’re usual sarcastic “mantra”..
It’s pretty sad really when people’s highlight off the day seems to be to try getting reactions on an online forum..
Ah well can’t be helped have a nice life anyway I’m sure one day you will find something more better/productive to do "If you had read at least some other posts you would realise I don't bring up ice age others did..... everyone who has read other posts will realise this! | |||
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"The climate has always got warmer and got cooler. The Thames used to regularly ice over. The Romans cultivated grapes in the north of England. Greenland used to be farmed. The whole climate change thing is a tax-raising scam" Possible? | |||
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"The climate has always got warmer and got cooler. The Thames used to regularly ice over. The Romans cultivated grapes in the north of England. Greenland used to be farmed. The whole climate change thing is a tax-raising scam Possible?" No. | |||
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" If you had read at least some other posts you would realise I don't bring up ice age others did..... everyone who has read other posts will realise this! "Whatever helps you sleep easier at night mate | |||
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" If you had read at least some other posts you would realise I don't bring up ice age others did..... everyone who has read other posts will realise this!
Whatever helps you sleep easier at night mate "Your the one who stated you didn't want to go back and forth and yet here you are lol and why are you calling me mate, when you clearly aren't lol sad really, desperate to put me down coz you couldn't be bothered to read at least some of the thread, never mind  | |||
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"The climate has always got warmer and got cooler. The Thames used to regularly ice over. The Romans cultivated grapes in the north of England. Greenland used to be farmed. The whole climate change thing is a tax-raising scam Possible? No." Why? Plenty think it is. ....are they all just deluded lol | |||
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"The climate has always got warmer and got cooler. The Thames used to regularly ice over. The Romans cultivated grapes in the north of England. Greenland used to be farmed. The whole climate change thing is a tax-raising scam Possible? No. Why? Plenty think it is. ....are they all just deluded lol" Plenty? | |||
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" Your the one who stated you didn't want to go back and forth and yet here you are lol and why are you calling me mate, when you clearly aren't lol sad really, desperate to put me down coz you couldn't be bothered to read at least some of the thread, never mind "Well I did try to go away and leave it be at that but then you kept on coming back and left me no choice... Again I don’t see the point in carrying on but as you keep on insisting in trying to force you’re views on me or say that I didn’t read the thread is frankly silly.. Can’t be helped though if you think you’re a mind reader ah well.. | |||
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"The climate has always got warmer and got cooler. The Thames used to regularly ice over. The Romans cultivated grapes in the north of England. Greenland used to be farmed. The whole climate change thing is a tax-raising scam Possible? No. Why? Plenty think it is. ....are they all just deluded lol" Yes. | |||
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" Your the one who stated you didn't want to go back and forth and yet here you are lol and why are you calling me mate, when you clearly aren't lol sad really, desperate to put me down coz you couldn't be bothered to read at least some of the thread, never mind
Well I did try to go away and leave it be at that but then you kept on coming back and left me no choice...
Again I don’t see the point in carrying on but as you keep on insisting in trying to force you’re views on me or say that I didn’t read the thread is frankly silly..
Can’t be helped though if you think you’re a mind reader ah well.."If you read it you clearly didn't remember any of it lol as you said I was talking gibberish when I was in fact quoting others.... sleep well hun x | |||
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"The climate has always got warmer and got cooler. The Thames used to regularly ice over. The Romans cultivated grapes in the north of England. Greenland used to be farmed. The whole climate change thing is a tax-raising scam Possible? No. Why? Plenty think it is. ....are they all just deluded lol Yes." I do love an open mind lol | |||
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"The Noahs flood story is a fairytale. But as for the ice age, the earth goes through natural cycles of cooling and warming. What's different this time is the speed of change and the high levels of co2 in the atmosphere that's not recorded at any other poin. There is a ton of evedence pointing to climate change being man made. 93% of scientists are now in agreement. " Who was measuring co2 in the ice age? And most scientists thought Darwin was are twat..... they all argue all the time and follow the grants lol I'm on fence, I'm sure man must be having some impact but I'm not convinced it's just man.... | |||
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" Who was measuring co2 in the ice age" Not who but what.. Ice deposits in the polar regions trapped air. Scientists drilled core samples in the ice sheets and can even see the roman empires impact on the climate. Changes recorded in the ice show a rapid build up when the industrialidation started | |||
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" Who was measuring co2 in the ice age Not who but what.. Ice deposits in the polar regions trapped air. Scientists drilled core samples in the ice sheets and can even see the roman empires impact on the climate. Changes recorded in the ice show a rapid build up when the industrialidation started " valid point lol but the interpretation of the same information, like with covid or darwin, always varies immensely.... darwin was out weighed in public and scientific circles by a mile... but who was right... i dont think world cycle temps are all on man, i think we arent helping! but the weather in terms of history, does fluctuate a lot! Im not arguing against this, the world is over populated and uses too much, read my earlier posts.... im happy to stop planes over night, use less heating.... stop buying plastic everything... but man is tipping it not causing it, in my opinion. Still not good! | |||
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" Who was measuring co2 in the ice age Not who but what.. Ice deposits in the polar regions trapped air. Scientists drilled core samples in the ice sheets and can even see the roman empires impact on the climate. Changes recorded in the ice show a rapid build up when the industrialidation started valid point lol but the interpretation of the same information, like with covid or darwin, always varies immensely.... darwin was out weighed in public and scientific circles by a mile... but who was right... i dont think world cycle temps are all on man, i think we arent helping! but the weather in terms of history, does fluctuate a lot! Im not arguing against this, the world is over populated and uses too much, read my earlier posts.... im happy to stop planes over night, use less heating.... stop buying plastic everything... but man is tipping it not causing it, in my opinion. Still not good!" Almost every reputable scientist would say you're wrong. I'll take their informed opinion over yours any day. | |||
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"So who's refusing to fly? .... yep nothing will change and companies will sell new shit..... " I refuse to fly. Anyone else? | |||
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"So who's refusing to fly? .... yep nothing will change and companies will sell new shit..... I refuse to fly. Anyone else?" Nope going away in a few weeks. | |||
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"So who's refusing to fly? .... yep nothing will change and companies will sell new shit..... I refuse to fly. Anyone else?" Me | |||
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"It was recently said that mining for lithium.. the mineral used in car batteries etc used more diesel in one year... than the world uses in aviation fuel in the same period. " That’s ok then | |||
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"It was recently said that mining for lithium.. the mineral used in car batteries etc used more diesel in one year... than the world uses in aviation fuel in the same period. " The Chinese demolished a mountain so imagine how much diesel | |||
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"It was recently said that mining for lithium.. the mineral used in car batteries etc used more diesel in one year... than the world uses in aviation fuel in the same period. " jeremy clarkson said the same thing years ago... but was totally ignored! | |||
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" Who was measuring co2 in the ice age Not who but what.. Ice deposits in the polar regions trapped air. Scientists drilled core samples in the ice sheets and can even see the roman empires impact on the climate. Changes recorded in the ice show a rapid build up when the industrialidation started valid point lol but the interpretation of the same information, like with covid or darwin, always varies immensely.... darwin was out weighed in public and scientific circles by a mile... but who was right... i dont think world cycle temps are all on man, i think we arent helping! but the weather in terms of history, does fluctuate a lot! Im not arguing against this, the world is over populated and uses too much, read my earlier posts.... im happy to stop planes over night, use less heating.... stop buying plastic everything... but man is tipping it not causing it, in my opinion. Still not good!" Well your right about varying changes, (roman grapes in UK) But cutting to the chase: - Carbon dioxide is a well known gas and greenhouse properties are well known - thousands of tonnes have been releases into the atmosphere - from analysis of core samples , theres never been this much catbon in the atmosphere in human history | |||
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" Who was measuring co2 in the ice age Not who but what.. Ice deposits in the polar regions trapped air. Scientists drilled core samples in the ice sheets and can even see the roman empires impact on the climate. Changes recorded in the ice show a rapid build up when the industrialidation started valid point lol but the interpretation of the same information, like with covid or darwin, always varies immensely.... darwin was out weighed in public and scientific circles by a mile... but who was right... i dont think world cycle temps are all on man, i think we arent helping! but the weather in terms of history, does fluctuate a lot! Im not arguing against this, the world is over populated and uses too much, read my earlier posts.... im happy to stop planes over night, use less heating.... stop buying plastic everything... but man is tipping it not causing it, in my opinion. Still not good! Almost every reputable scientist would say you're wrong. I'll take their informed opinion over yours any day." so why is no one listening to them then lol still all getting on planes etc etc of course you are..... every reputable scientist with a pay master will say yes thats correct.... im paying for the programme i get to say how we interpret the results lol all the scientists only a few weeks ago were saying dont unlock fully....its too soon... and when questioned about it, because deaths havent rocketed one said, oh the results have surprised us! lol | |||
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" Who was measuring co2 in the ice age Not who but what.. Ice deposits in the polar regions trapped air. Scientists drilled core samples in the ice sheets and can even see the roman empires impact on the climate. Changes recorded in the ice show a rapid build up when the industrialidation started valid point lol but the interpretation of the same information, like with covid or darwin, always varies immensely.... darwin was out weighed in public and scientific circles by a mile... but who was right... i dont think world cycle temps are all on man, i think we arent helping! but the weather in terms of history, does fluctuate a lot! Im not arguing against this, the world is over populated and uses too much, read my earlier posts.... im happy to stop planes over night, use less heating.... stop buying plastic everything... but man is tipping it not causing it, in my opinion. Still not good! Well your right about varying changes, (roman grapes in UK) But cutting to the chase: - Carbon dioxide is a well known gas and greenhouse properties are well known - thousands of tonnes have been releases into the atmosphere - from analysis of core samples , theres never been this much catbon in the atmosphere in human history " i agree! but the people screaming the loudest still carry on! that fuck wit who turned up for a climate demo and flew by private jet to get there! the eco _estival where they left tons of tents to go in skip..... Who are they shouting at? themselves lol | |||
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