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"https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jul/28/rnli-hits-out-migrant-taxi-service-accusations?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other A volunteer service which has saved 1000s of lives over the years versus nigel farage,the daily mail and gb news. " Yes but, the RNLI is British and should only be saving British lives,  | |||
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"https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jul/28/rnli-hits-out-migrant-taxi-service-accusations?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other A volunteer service which has saved 1000s of lives over the years versus nigel farage,the daily mail and gb news. Yes but, the RNLI is British and should only be saving British lives, "You obviously know nothing about the best institution in the world.  | |||
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"https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jul/28/rnli-hits-out-migrant-taxi-service-accusations?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other A volunteer service which has saved 1000s of lives over the years versus nigel farage,the daily mail and gb news. Yes but, the RNLI is British and should only be saving British lives, "Makes you proud doesnt it? | |||
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"https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jul/28/rnli-hits-out-migrant-taxi-service-accusations?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other A volunteer service which has saved 1000s of lives over the years versus nigel farage,the daily mail and gb news. Yes but, the RNLI is British and should only be saving British lives,
Makes you proud doesnt it?"Very, RNLI volunteers were abused in London over the weekend , obviously just a coincidence | |||
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"https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jul/28/rnli-hits-out-migrant-taxi-service-accusations?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other A volunteer service which has saved 1000s of lives over the years versus nigel farage,the daily mail and gb news. Yes but, the RNLI is British and should only be saving British lives, You obviously know nothing about the best institution in the world. "I am not criticising the RNLI, | |||
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"https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jul/28/rnli-hits-out-migrant-taxi-service-accusations?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other A volunteer service which has saved 1000s of lives over the years versus nigel farage,the daily mail and gb news. Yes but, the RNLI is British and should only be saving British lives, "Operates in Southern Ireland as the RNLI as well. | |||
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"https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jul/28/rnli-hits-out-migrant-taxi-service-accusations?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other A volunteer service which has saved 1000s of lives over the years versus nigel farage,the daily mail and gb news. Yes but, the RNLI is British and should only be saving British lives,
Operates in Southern Ireland as the RNLI as well.
"Yes but, they can’t be seen or allowed to just rescue anyone ?? | |||
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"https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jul/28/rnli-hits-out-migrant-taxi-service-accusations?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other A volunteer service which has saved 1000s of lives over the years versus nigel farage,the daily mail and gb news. Yes but, the RNLI is British and should only be saving British lives,
Operates in Southern Ireland as the RNLI as well.
"Indeed. Heroes One and All and won't be phased by a gutter paper - seems odd that people even read it, call it, then post it as an example of what Great Britain is. | |||
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"https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jul/28/rnli-hits-out-migrant-taxi-service-accusations?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other A volunteer service which has saved 1000s of lives over the years versus nigel farage,the daily mail and gb news. Yes but, the RNLI is British and should only be saving British lives,
Operates in Southern Ireland as the RNLI as well.
"Was going to say that but you got their first. | |||
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"https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jul/28/rnli-hits-out-migrant-taxi-service-accusations?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other A volunteer service which has saved 1000s of lives over the years versus nigel farage,the daily mail and gb news. Yes but, the RNLI is British and should only be saving British lives,
Operates in Southern Ireland as the RNLI as well.
Yes but, they can’t be seen or allowed to just rescue anyone ?? "But under maritime rules if someone is in danger they can help if coast guard will take too long to get to point of area. | |||
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"https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jul/28/rnli-hits-out-migrant-taxi-service-accusations?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other A volunteer service which has saved 1000s of lives over the years versus nigel farage,the daily mail and gb news. Yes but, the RNLI is British and should only be saving British lives,
Operates in Southern Ireland as the RNLI as well.
Indeed. Heroes One and All and won't be phased by a gutter paper - seems odd that people even read it, call it, then post it as an example of what Great Britain is. "Yes strange how some will find any excuse to run their own country down when its such a great place to live. | |||
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"https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jul/28/rnli-hits-out-migrant-taxi-service-accusations?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other A volunteer service which has saved 1000s of lives over the years versus nigel farage,the daily mail and gb news. Yes but, the RNLI is British and should only be saving British lives,
Operates in Southern Ireland as the RNLI as well.
Yes but, they can’t be seen or allowed to just rescue anyone ??
But under maritime rules if someone is in danger they can help if coast guard will take too long to get to point of area."I was under the impression that it was against maritime law to allow vessels in such condition to set sail in the first place? | |||
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"https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jul/28/rnli-hits-out-migrant-taxi-service-accusations?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other A volunteer service which has saved 1000s of lives over the years versus nigel farage,the daily mail and gb news. Yes but, the RNLI is British and should only be saving British lives,
Operates in Southern Ireland as the RNLI as well.
Yes but, they can’t be seen or allowed to just rescue anyone ??
But under maritime rules if someone is in danger they can help if coast guard will take too long to get to point of area.
I was under the impression that it was against maritime law to allow vessels in such condition to set sail in the first place?"The French dont seem to bothered about it they just shadow them until they are in British waters. | |||
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"Gammons ripping into the rnli into blaming the french in 3 easy steps
Classic"I'm doing no such thing. I was merely asking a question. If my understanding is incorrect, please clarify | |||
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"Gammons ripping into the rnli into blaming the french in 3 easy steps
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I'm doing no such thing. I was merely asking a question. If my understanding is incorrect, please clarify"My post wasnt in response to yours tbh. | |||
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"Gammons ripping into the rnli into blaming the french in 3 easy steps
Classic"Who on here has ripped into the RNLI ? The French must have such a crap boarder control if they cannot detect boats a mile from their shores, i wonder if it would be the same if it was drugs going into France rather than immigrants leaving.
The French could turn these boats around a mile or so from the shore but instead are quiet content for them to endanger their lives and put money into criminals pockets such a caring nation i bet they must be really proud. | |||
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"https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jul/28/rnli-hits-out-migrant-taxi-service-accusations?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other A volunteer service which has saved 1000s of lives over the years versus nigel farage,the daily mail and gb news. Yes but, the RNLI is British and should only be saving British lives,
Operates in Southern Ireland as the RNLI as well.
Yes but, they can’t be seen or allowed to just rescue anyone ??
But under maritime rules if someone is in danger they can help if coast guard will take too long to get to point of area.
I was under the impression that it was against maritime law to allow vessels in such condition to set sail in the first place?"Not sure could be right I'm just thinking if lives are in danger then must help, but as you said you could be right. | |||
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"https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jul/28/rnli-hits-out-migrant-taxi-service-accusations?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other A volunteer service which has saved 1000s of lives over the years versus nigel farage,the daily mail and gb news. Yes but, the RNLI is British and should only be saving British lives,
Operates in Southern Ireland as the RNLI as well.
Yes but, they can’t be seen or allowed to just rescue anyone ??
But under maritime rules if someone is in danger they can help if coast guard will take too long to get to point of area.
I was under the impression that it was against maritime law to allow vessels in such condition to set sail in the first place?"Probably, though I'm not convinced following the rules is what people traffickers are best known for | |||
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"Rnli there to save people. No matter who. I was helmsman and mechanic for 12 years. "As a sailor i would like to say thanks for all your good work and being there when needed.  | |||
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"Gammons ripping into the rnli into blaming the french in 3 easy steps
ClassicWho on here has ripped into the RNLI ?
The French must have such a crap boarder control if they cannot detect boats a mile from their shores, i wonder if it would be the same if it was drugs going into France rather than immigrants leaving.
The French could turn these boats around a mile or so from the shore but instead are quiet content for them to endanger their lives and put money into criminals pockets such a caring nation i bet they must be really proud. "Exactly! It's convenient for the French to get shot of them, despite being paid by the British Government | |||
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"Rnli there to save people. No matter who. I was helmsman and mechanic for 12 years. As a sailor i would like to say thanks for all your good work and being there when needed. " wnd long may it stay a charity only funded service | |||
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"Gammons ripping into the rnli into blaming the french in 3 easy steps
ClassicWho on here has ripped into the RNLI ?
The French must have such a crap boarder control if they cannot detect boats a mile from their shores, i wonder if it would be the same if it was drugs going into France rather than immigrants leaving.
The French could turn these boats around a mile or so from the shore but instead are quiet content for them to endanger their lives and put money into criminals pockets such a caring nation i bet they must be really proud.
Exactly! It's convenient for the French to get shot of them, despite being paid by the British Government "Sorry to talk about the actual topic.. but what's that got to do with what Farage and his ilk have said about the rnli? | |||
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"Gammons ripping into the rnli into blaming the french in 3 easy steps
ClassicWho on here has ripped into the RNLI ?
The French must have such a crap boarder control if they cannot detect boats a mile from their shores, i wonder if it would be the same if it was drugs going into France rather than immigrants leaving.
The French could turn these boats around a mile or so from the shore but instead are quiet content for them to endanger their lives and put money into criminals pockets such a caring nation i bet they must be really proud.
Exactly! It's convenient for the French to get shot of them, despite being paid by the British Government
Sorry to talk about the actual topic.. but what's that got to do with what Farage and his ilk have said about the rnli?"I havnt actually read what he said but the RNLI is there to save anyone. Thank god most sailors are responsible people and would not set sail in an unseaworthy vessel and do not put themselves in danger on purpose. With all the staycations this year lets hope they are not over stretched and people who find themselves in trouble are still able to make use of their excelent services. | |||
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"Never let it be said that a thread about a Tory supporting newspaper slating the rnli and questioning why it should be rescuing immigrants,would be deflected into a discussion on the French and staycations." Never let it be said that newspapers print what sells. Who gives a fuck what The Mail or Farage have said? Surely it matters what the people on this thread are saying  | |||
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"https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-57999224 The RNLI obviously making stories up again. What type of low life would go and do that? Well apart from Farage obviously. " Clearly didn't read what I wrote. You seem to be arguing with yourself again as not one person here is abusing the RNLI. Quite the opposite in fact. | |||
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"Gammons ripping into the rnli into blaming the french in 3 easy steps
ClassicWho on here has ripped into the RNLI ?
The French must have such a crap boarder control if they cannot detect boats a mile from their shores, i wonder if it would be the same if it was drugs going into France rather than immigrants leaving.
The French could turn these boats around a mile or so from the shore but instead are quiet content for them to endanger their lives and put money into criminals pockets such a caring nation i bet they must be really proud.
Exactly! It's convenient for the French to get shot of them, despite being paid by the British Government
Sorry to talk about the actual topic.. but what's that got to do with what Farage and his ilk have said about the rnli?"Because the French are needlessly endangering others by offloading refugees /migrants onto the RNLI, Farage? He's is just showing himself up as a callous arsehole, who listens to his drivel anyway? | |||
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"Gammons ripping into the rnli into blaming the french in 3 easy steps
ClassicWho on here has ripped into the RNLI ?
The French must have such a crap boarder control if they cannot detect boats a mile from their shores, i wonder if it would be the same if it was drugs going into France rather than immigrants leaving.
The French could turn these boats around a mile or so from the shore but instead are quiet content for them to endanger their lives and put money into criminals pockets such a caring nation i bet they must be really proud.
Exactly! It's convenient for the French to get shot of them, despite being paid by the British Government
Sorry to talk about the actual topic.. but what's that got to do with what Farage and his ilk have said about the rnli?
Because the French are needlessly endangering others by offloading refugees /migrants onto the RNLI, Farage? He's is just showing himself up as a callous arsehole, who listens to his drivel anyway? "16m people? | |||
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"Gammons ripping into the rnli into blaming the french in 3 easy steps
ClassicWho on here has ripped into the RNLI ?
The French must have such a crap boarder control if they cannot detect boats a mile from their shores, i wonder if it would be the same if it was drugs going into France rather than immigrants leaving.
The French could turn these boats around a mile or so from the shore but instead are quiet content for them to endanger their lives and put money into criminals pockets such a caring nation i bet they must be really proud.
Exactly! It's convenient for the French to get shot of them, despite being paid by the British Government
Sorry to talk about the actual topic.. but what's that got to do with what Farage and his ilk have said about the rnli?
Because the French are needlessly endangering others by offloading refugees /migrants onto the RNLI, Farage? He's is just showing himself up as a callous arsehole, who listens to his drivel anyway?
16m people?"How many of them are going to actively attack the RNLI? There's always the odd arsehole unfortunately. | |||
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"Farage lied about supporting fishermen when he was an MEP, he lied about them when saying Brexit would be a bonus for fishermen & now he lies about the obligation to assist people on the high seas. The man is despicable and cares for noone bar himself. Well done for responding RNLI and thank you for everything you do." There is also a clear link there with the attitudes of the likes of Farage and the daily mail with the tough on immigration stance from patel and co. | |||
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"Farage lied about supporting fishermen when he was an MEP, he lied about them when saying Brexit would be a bonus for fishermen & now he lies about the obligation to assist people on the high seas. The man is despicable and cares for noone bar himself. Well done for responding RNLI and thank you for everything you do."
The RNLI is a service of last resort to save those in danger, not to pick up the mess this government has left through incompetence arrogance. | |||
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"Just the way this country is going in genersl with nasty shitholes in government "
And of course one of the best selling newspapers in the country
I find the "oh its just a couple of crackpots 'argument quite interesting when these type of views are a direct result of gmnt policy.
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"Then stop reading the DM. The Daily mail isn't even close to being even a random in your dream's majority of what the British public think. RNLI are the hero's of the hour, not some random add selling zombie in a gutter press office in nowhere, UK. Pretending that they have the ear of the public. " the Bbc, the independent, the times itv, sky news... | |||
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"Farage lied about supporting fishermen when he was an MEP, he lied about them when saying Brexit would be a bonus for fishermen & now he lies about the obligation to assist people on the high seas. The man is despicable and cares for noone bar himself. Well done for responding RNLI and thank you for everything you do." I've not seen his comments about obligation to assist on the high seas...what has he said? | |||
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"As of April 2019, the Daily Mail had a circulation of almost 1.2 million newspapers . . . 68,267,212 million people in the UK. 67 million people don't read the DM. Yet it's quoted here at least 68,267,212 times a week. "Pie chart please  | |||
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"Farage lied about supporting fishermen when he was an MEP, he lied about them when saying Brexit would be a bonus for fishermen & now he lies about the obligation to assist people on the high seas. The man is despicable and cares for noone bar himself. Well done for responding RNLI and thank you for everything you do. I've not seen his comments about obligation to assist on the high seas...what has he said?" He said the RNLI is a taxi service for migrants The fact that the rnli have had to issue a press release and video to justify their work,obviously means they have took seriously the claims made against them. Despite the rather desperate attempts on here to brush it under the carpet. | |||
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"As of April 2019, the Daily Mail had a circulation of almost 1.2 million newspapers . . . 68,267,212 million people in the UK. 67 million people don't read the DM. Yet it's quoted here at least 68,267,212 times a week.
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"Farage lied about supporting fishermen when he was an MEP, he lied about them when saying Brexit would be a bonus for fishermen & now he lies about the obligation to assist people on the high seas. The man is despicable and cares for noone bar himself. Well done for responding RNLI and thank you for everything you do. I've not seen his comments about obligation to assist on the high seas...what has he said?" Reported he said it's a taxi service for immigrants | |||
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"Farage lied about supporting fishermen when he was an MEP, he lied about them when saying Brexit would be a bonus for fishermen & now he lies about the obligation to assist people on the high seas. The man is despicable and cares for noone bar himself. Well done for responding RNLI and thank you for everything you do. I've not seen his comments about obligation to assist on the high seas...what has he said? Reported he said it's a taxi service for immigrants" With the greatest of respect, isn't it turning into that? And before the abuse starts I'm a fundraiser for the RNLI with a brother-in-law who is a crew member in the SW | |||
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"Farage lied about supporting fishermen when he was an MEP, he lied about them when saying Brexit would be a bonus for fishermen & now he lies about the obligation to assist people on the high seas. The man is despicable and cares for noone bar himself. Well done for responding RNLI and thank you for everything you do. I've not seen his comments about obligation to assist on the high seas...what has he said? Reported he said it's a taxi service for immigrants With the greatest of respect, isn't it turning into that? And before the abuse starts I'm a fundraiser for the RNLI with a brother-in-law who is a crew member in the SW " Personally I'd say not. As the video they have put our shows but everyone is entitled to their opinion. | |||
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""The duty to rescue There is a duty pursuant to international law for a ship to attempt the rescue of persons at danger at sea. This duty is based on a long-standing and strongly felt moral obligation among seafarers. This is stated, for example, in the United Nations Convention of the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) Article 98 the International Convention for the Safety of Life at Sea (SOLAS), Regulation V-33. All states recognize this duty. One implication of this rule is that a state cannot legally prohibit its vessels from rescuing persons at sea: states must accept that their vessels engage in rescue operations. In the International Convention on Maritime Search and Rescue (SAR), coastal states undertake the role to coordinate the SAR in respect of persons in specified areas (Article 2.3). There is a duty to organize such services (UNCLOS Article 98 and SOLAS, Regulation V-7). There are no provisions in the SAR convention that the particular state in charge of a specific area can direct foreign vessels whether to assist or not. Within the 12 nautical miles of territorial waters, the state has general jurisdiction on other grounds (including the right to direct vessels how to assist or not to assist), but this jurisdiction does not extend to ships in passage assisting other vessels (UNCLOS Articles 17-18)." Search: The duty to rescue refugees and migrants at sea for the full text. "Doesn't it also fall on the French to prevent vessels that are not seaworthy leaving their shores? It seems to me as though that failing is the root cause? | |||
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"Farage lied about supporting fishermen when he was an MEP, he lied about them when saying Brexit would be a bonus for fishermen & now he lies about the obligation to assist people on the high seas. The man is despicable and cares for noone bar himself. Well done for responding RNLI and thank you for everything you do. I've not seen his comments about obligation to assist on the high seas...what has he said? Reported he said it's a taxi service for immigrants With the greatest of respect, isn't it turning into that? And before the abuse starts I'm a fundraiser for the RNLI with a brother-in-law who is a crew member in the SW Personally I'd say not. As the video they have put our shows but everyone is entitled to their opinion." Then we must respectfully disagree | |||
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""The duty to rescue There is a duty pursuant to international law for a ship to attempt the rescue of persons at danger at sea. This duty is based on a long-standing and strongly felt moral obligation among seafarers. This is stated, for example, in the United Nations Convention of the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) Article 98 the International Convention for the Safety of Life at Sea (SOLAS), Regulation V-33. All states recognize this duty. One implication of this rule is that a state cannot legally prohibit its vessels from rescuing persons at sea: states must accept that their vessels engage in rescue operations. In the International Convention on Maritime Search and Rescue (SAR), coastal states undertake the role to coordinate the SAR in respect of persons in specified areas (Article 2.3). There is a duty to organize such services (UNCLOS Article 98 and SOLAS, Regulation V-7). There are no provisions in the SAR convention that the particular state in charge of a specific area can direct foreign vessels whether to assist or not. Within the 12 nautical miles of territorial waters, the state has general jurisdiction on other grounds (including the right to direct vessels how to assist or not to assist), but this jurisdiction does not extend to ships in passage assisting other vessels (UNCLOS Articles 17-18)." Search: The duty to rescue refugees and migrants at sea for the full text.
Doesn't it also fall on the French to prevent vessels that are not seaworthy leaving their shores? It seems to me as though that failing is the root cause? "Absolutely it does. | |||
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"RNLI crews deserve the utmost respect for what they do, to be honest farage is not fit to wash their kit after a call out.. " | |||
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"He used to volunteer for the RNLI And he's saying what everyone already knows, they're being used to pick up people that the French have nudged into the deep dark waters of the English channel " The stuff about the French is just deflection. The story is about what the RNLI are doing which is stopping people from drowning. You either think this is what a humane, decent society should do or you dont. Simple | |||
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"He used to volunteer for the RNLI And he's saying what everyone already knows, they're being used to pick up people that the French have nudged into the deep dark waters of the English channel The stuff about the French is just deflection. The story is about what the RNLI are doing which is stopping people from drowning. You either think this is what a humane, decent society should do or you dont. Simple " Who said it wasnt what we should be doing? And a decent humane society wouldn't push tiny boats packed with people into deeper waters but apparently the French doing that is just 'deflection' | |||
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"He used to volunteer for the RNLI And he's saying what everyone already knows, they're being used to pick up people that the French have nudged into the deep dark waters of the English channel The stuff about the French is just deflection. The story is about what the RNLI are doing which is stopping people from drowning. You either think this is what a humane, decent society should do or you dont. Simple " I've no desire to argue but the point about the French isn't deflection, it's fact and the rnli wouldn't be involved if the French were following their own maritime laws. That's not pro farage, pro daily mail or anything else. I don't understand why you are unable or unwilling to accept that sometimes, just sometimes, the view of the left is wrong | |||
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"As a current seafarer with alot of experience dodging the migrants coming accross. The french do pick them up butfrom time to time have been see to be "keeping an eye" on their movements. Until they become dover coastguards problem.. Under SOLAS they would be rescued if in danger by any ship hence why the ships get asked, do they have lifejacket on.. Keep doing what you best at RNLI thats saving lives and ignore the idiots "Great to have an informed poster but why are these vessels in danger AFTER they leave French waters and not before? | |||
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"Gammons ripping into the rnli into blaming the french in 3 easy steps
ClassicWho on here has ripped into the RNLI ?
The French must have such a crap boarder control if they cannot detect boats a mile from their shores, i wonder if it would be the same if it was drugs going into France rather than immigrants leaving.
The French could turn these boats around a mile or so from the shore but instead are quiet content for them to endanger their lives and put money into criminals pockets such a caring nation i bet they must be really proud.
Exactly! It's convenient for the French to get shot of them, despite being paid by the British Government
Sorry to talk about the actual topic.. but what's that got to do with what Farage and his ilk have said about the rnli?I havnt actually read what he said but the RNLI is there to save anyone. Thank god most sailors are responsible people and would not set sail in an unseaworthy vessel and do not put themselves in danger on purpose.
With all the staycations this year lets hope they are not over stretched and people who find themselves in trouble are still able to make use of their excelent services."Going to sea off the coast of Cornwall in an inflatable swan is pretty much irresponsible so let’s hope the mail tells the RNLI to not rescue those either. Imagine the British coastguard letting those irresponsible idiots sail from our coast. | |||
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"Gammons ripping into the rnli into blaming the french in 3 easy steps
ClassicWho on here has ripped into the RNLI ?
The French must have such a crap boarder control if they cannot detect boats a mile from their shores, i wonder if it would be the same if it was drugs going into France rather than immigrants leaving.
The French could turn these boats around a mile or so from the shore but instead are quiet content for them to endanger their lives and put money into criminals pockets such a caring nation i bet they must be really proud.
Exactly! It's convenient for the French to get shot of them, despite being paid by the British Government
Sorry to talk about the actual topic.. but what's that got to do with what Farage and his ilk have said about the rnli?I havnt actually read what he said but the RNLI is there to save anyone. Thank god most sailors are responsible people and would not set sail in an unseaworthy vessel and do not put themselves in danger on purpose.
With all the staycations this year lets hope they are not over stretched and people who find themselves in trouble are still able to make use of their excelent services.
Going to sea off the coast of Cornwall in an inflatable swan is pretty much irresponsible so let’s hope the mail tells the RNLI to not rescue those either. Imagine the British coastguard letting those irresponsible idiots sail from our coast. "Daft post...if the guardian told you to jump????? | |||
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"https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-57999224 The RNLI obviously making stories up again. What type of low life would go and do that? Well apart from Farage obviously. Clearly didn't read what I wrote. You seem to be arguing with yourself again as not one person here is abusing the RNLI. Quite the opposite in fact." But the mail is and those ignorant arseholes on the beach are too. This is the Britain of Brexit. Disgusting and embarrassing. The mail is a vehement supporter of Boris for tax and anti immigration reasons and he aligns himself with their views. Makes you proud to be part of our culturally diverse and tolerant nation. Attacking the RNLI is yet another new low in this country. Shameful. | |||
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"Gammons ripping into the rnli into blaming the french in 3 easy steps
ClassicWho on here has ripped into the RNLI ?
The French must have such a crap boarder control if they cannot detect boats a mile from their shores, i wonder if it would be the same if it was drugs going into France rather than immigrants leaving.
The French could turn these boats around a mile or so from the shore but instead are quiet content for them to endanger their lives and put money into criminals pockets such a caring nation i bet they must be really proud.
Exactly! It's convenient for the French to get shot of them, despite being paid by the British Government
Sorry to talk about the actual topic.. but what's that got to do with what Farage and his ilk have said about the rnli?I havnt actually read what he said but the RNLI is there to save anyone. Thank god most sailors are responsible people and would not set sail in an unseaworthy vessel and do not put themselves in danger on purpose.
With all the staycations this year lets hope they are not over stretched and people who find themselves in trouble are still able to make use of their excelent services.
Going to sea off the coast of Cornwall in an inflatable swan is pretty much irresponsible so let’s hope the mail tells the RNLI to not rescue those either. Imagine the British coastguard letting those irresponsible idiots sail from our coast.
Daft post...if the guardian told you to jump?????"The RNLI risk their lives for such idiots on a daily basis. Why should they bother? Why do they go out to sea in a fucking swan? Same principal as the accusations of the immigrants being foolish. Saving idiots on inflatables could risk the RNLI being too busy to rescue sailors from a ship in trouble. | |||
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"As of April 2019, the Daily Mail had a circulation of almost 1.2 million newspapers . . . 68,267,212 million people in the UK. 67 million people don't read the DM. Yet it's quoted here at least 68,267,212 times a week. "Look at its online presence . 218million unique visitors per month . It’s a big readership. | |||
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"Gammons ripping into the rnli into blaming the french in 3 easy steps
ClassicWho on here has ripped into the RNLI ?
The French must have such a crap boarder control if they cannot detect boats a mile from their shores, i wonder if it would be the same if it was drugs going into France rather than immigrants leaving.
The French could turn these boats around a mile or so from the shore but instead are quiet content for them to endanger their lives and put money into criminals pockets such a caring nation i bet they must be really proud.
Exactly! It's convenient for the French to get shot of them, despite being paid by the British Government
Sorry to talk about the actual topic.. but what's that got to do with what Farage and his ilk have said about the rnli?I havnt actually read what he said but the RNLI is there to save anyone. Thank god most sailors are responsible people and would not set sail in an unseaworthy vessel and do not put themselves in danger on purpose.
With all the staycations this year lets hope they are not over stretched and people who find themselves in trouble are still able to make use of their excelent services.
Going to sea off the coast of Cornwall in an inflatable swan is pretty much irresponsible so let’s hope the mail tells the RNLI to not rescue those either. Imagine the British coastguard letting those irresponsible idiots sail from our coast.
Daft post...if the guardian told you to jump?????
The RNLI risk their lives for such idiots on a daily basis. Why should they bother? Why do they go out to sea in a fucking swan? Same principal as the accusations of the immigrants being foolish.
Saving idiots on inflatables could risk the RNLI being too busy to rescue sailors from a ship in trouble.
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"Gammons ripping into the rnli into blaming the french in 3 easy steps
ClassicWho on here has ripped into the RNLI ?
The French must have such a crap boarder control if they cannot detect boats a mile from their shores, i wonder if it would be the same if it was drugs going into France rather than immigrants leaving.
The French could turn these boats around a mile or so from the shore but instead are quiet content for them to endanger their lives and put money into criminals pockets such a caring nation i bet they must be really proud.
Exactly! It's convenient for the French to get shot of them, despite being paid by the British Government
Sorry to talk about the actual topic.. but what's that got to do with what Farage and his ilk have said about the rnli?I havnt actually read what he said but the RNLI is there to save anyone. Thank god most sailors are responsible people and would not set sail in an unseaworthy vessel and do not put themselves in danger on purpose.
With all the staycations this year lets hope they are not over stretched and people who find themselves in trouble are still able to make use of their excelent services.
Going to sea off the coast of Cornwall in an inflatable swan is pretty much irresponsible so let’s hope the mail tells the RNLI to not rescue those either. Imagine the British coastguard letting those irresponsible idiots sail from our coast.
Daft post...if the guardian told you to jump?????
The RNLI risk their lives for such idiots on a daily basis. Why should they bother? Why do they go out to sea in a fucking swan? Same principal as the accusations of the immigrants being foolish.
Saving idiots on inflatables could risk the RNLI being too busy to rescue sailors from a ship in trouble.
Your tolerance seems at a low level and besides as has already been highlighted it's illegal to leave French shores in such vessels"So what should the rnli do? | |||
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"https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-57999224 The RNLI obviously making stories up again. What type of low life would go and do that? Well apart from Farage obviously. Clearly didn't read what I wrote. You seem to be arguing with yourself again as not one person here is abusing the RNLI. Quite the opposite in fact. But the mail is and those ignorant arseholes on the beach are too. This is the Britain of Brexit. Disgusting and embarrassing. The mail is a vehement supporter of Boris for tax and anti immigration reasons and he aligns himself with their views. Makes you proud to be part of our culturally diverse and tolerant nation. Attacking the RNLI is yet another new low in this country. Shameful. " I'd say fuck the mail, Farage and the rest of those ignorant twunts. As I've already stated, surely the very people who you are speaking to (posters on this forum) actually count for something. I'm fairly sure that an outstanding majority support the RNLI in what they do and couldn't give a flying fuck what the mail or Farage are saying. Just because any particular person reads an article in a newspaper or hears something a 2bit politician says doesn't actually mean the agree or believe. | |||
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" The RNLI risk their lives for such idiots on a daily basis. Why should they bother? Why do they go out to sea in a fucking swan? Same principal as the accusations of the immigrants being foolish. Saving idiots on inflatables could risk the RNLI being too busy to rescue sailors from a ship in trouble. " The government, as others including myself have said, it's the government and this shower of incompetent shite not doing their jobs. I think they're laughing up their sleeves, getting a free service to rescue migrants, and your right they're busy sorting out the government shite and not being there for ships and crews | |||
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" So what should the rnli do?" They should continue do what they always do. It isnt the RNLI's job to sort out the government's utter fuck up! Its upto this shit useless bojo and patel. The media and opposition should be calling them out on it. | |||
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"Only on this forum could the fact that immigrants leave a French shore to attempt to cross 50 miles of one of the busiest sea lanes in the world in flimsy boats and try to land on UK shores, and it be a deflection to mention the French with regard to it being part of the solution. Now there is 'priceless' if you ever did see it!!! To a previous poster, the UK has paid over £154 million in the last 3 years to the French to assist with the problem. It needs a solution. That saves lives and is workable for everyone - not least of which the migrants." Yep. It's like some nutcase walking around a swimming pool pushing people into the deep end but nobody is allowed to talk about the nutcase Standard though and shows where people's moral compass really is and how eager they are to believe in nonsense stories and invented conflicts in the press | |||
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"The article is solely about Farage and the daily mail attacking the actions actions of the rnli. Unless you are belmg blissfully ignorant there is an obvious connection here to the "tough'srance on immigration by the uk gmnt. However in a totally unsurprising move ,the blame has been shifted to the feench gmnt. once again,there is a theme of 'nothing to see here'despite the story appearing in almost every major media outlet in the country. It appears to be another one of those topics we aremt supposed to talk about, much like johnson having his flat decorated. Obviously that's absolutely nothing to do with the fact that we have a gmnt who have decided that immigrants need to be degumsmised and their lackeys in the media have followed suit. Maybe at some point ,someone will say what the rnli should so,which seems to be what the entire story is about. Hence the video they have put out." How many times?? The RNLI have a huge support across the country. I'm gonna hazard a guess and say the support for them is way above 90%. Fuck Farage and The Mail. I'm not sure we could be any clearer in our support for the RNLI. | |||
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"Only on this forum could the fact that immigrants leave a French shore to attempt to cross 50 miles of one of the busiest sea lanes in the world in flimsy boats and try to land on UK shores, and it be a deflection to mention the French with regard to it being part of the solution. Now there is 'priceless' if you ever did see it!!! To a previous poster, the UK has paid over £154 million in the last 3 years to the French to assist with the problem. It needs a solution. That saves lives and is workable for everyone - not least of which the migrants. Yep. It's like some nutcase walking around a swimming pool pushing people into the deep end but nobody is allowed to talk about the nutcase Standard though and shows where people's moral compass really is and how eager they are to believe in nonsense stories and invented conflicts in the press " | |||
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"Only on this forum could the fact that immigrants leave a French shore to attempt to cross 50 miles of one of the busiest sea lanes in the world in flimsy boats and try to land on UK shores, and it be a deflection to mention the French with regard to it being part of the solution. Now there is 'priceless' if you ever did see it!!! To a previous poster, the UK has paid over £154 million in the last 3 years to the French to assist with the problem. It needs a solution. That saves lives and is workable for everyone - not least of which the migrants. Yep. It's like some nutcase walking around a swimming pool pushing people into the deep end but nobody is allowed to talk about the nutcase Standard though and shows where people's moral compass really is and how eager they are to believe in nonsense stories and invented conflicts in the press " So now it didnt actually happen Welcome the post truth era | |||
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"Just to add Lionel: farage and his gang of arseholes should be called out on that too! The RNLI is apolitical, and should stay that way and glad to read the statement issued by them. They are an emergency rescue service of last resort, not there to sort out government fuck ups! And lionel, I disagree with you on the French, they'll be happy to offload these people and i suspect if they think a boat looks like it'll make it across i wouldn't be surprised if they let it go " Well seeing as the story appeared in one of the biggest supporters of the gmnt, I'm sure they will be along to dissociate themselves from it any minute now. There is a genuine anti migrant feeling in the country right now,fuelled by the gmnts stance and also the headlines in many of the newspapers, which also played a significant role in brexit. | |||
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"Only on this forum could the fact that immigrants leave a French shore to attempt to cross 50 miles of one of the busiest sea lanes in the world in flimsy boats and try to land on UK shores, and it be a deflection to mention the French with regard to it being part of the solution. Now there is 'priceless' if you ever did see it!!! To a previous poster, the UK has paid over £154 million in the last 3 years to the French to assist with the problem. It needs a solution. That saves lives and is workable for everyone - not least of which the migrants. Yep. It's like some nutcase walking around a swimming pool pushing people into the deep end but nobody is allowed to talk about the nutcase Standard though and shows where people's moral compass really is and how eager they are to believe in nonsense stories and invented conflicts in the press So now it didnt actually happen Welcome the post truth era" Like I said in my previous post which you ignored Farage used to volunteer for the RNLI If you still want to believe fabricated conflicts whipped up by the press then go ahead. But dont be surprised when the rest of us aren't so easily taken in | |||
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"Only on this forum could the fact that immigrants leave a French shore to attempt to cross 50 miles of one of the busiest sea lanes in the world in flimsy boats and try to land on UK shores, and it be a deflection to mention the French with regard to it being part of the solution. Now there is 'priceless' if you ever did see it!!! To a previous poster, the UK has paid over £154 million in the last 3 years to the French to assist with the problem. It needs a solution. That saves lives and is workable for everyone - not least of which the migrants. Yep. It's like some nutcase walking around a swimming pool pushing people into the deep end but nobody is allowed to talk about the nutcase Standard though and shows where people's moral compass really is and how eager they are to believe in nonsense stories and invented conflicts in the press So now it didnt actually happen Welcome the post truth era Like I said in my previous post which you ignored Farage used to volunteer for the RNLI If you still want to believe fabricated conflicts whipped up by the press then go ahead. But dont be surprised when the rest of us aren't so easily taken in" Are you suggesting Farage didn't say it?or because he alledgly used to work for them ,this gives him carte blanche to criticise them? The RNLI put out a video claiming that were abused when rescuing refugees which according to you is'fabricated' It's a tough one to call. The RNLI or you. | |||
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"Only on this forum could the fact that immigrants leave a French shore to attempt to cross 50 miles of one of the busiest sea lanes in the world in flimsy boats and try to land on UK shores, and it be a deflection to mention the French with regard to it being part of the solution. Now there is 'priceless' if you ever did see it!!! To a previous poster, the UK has paid over £154 million in the last 3 years to the French to assist with the problem. It needs a solution. That saves lives and is workable for everyone - not least of which the migrants. Yep. It's like some nutcase walking around a swimming pool pushing people into the deep end but nobody is allowed to talk about the nutcase Standard though and shows where people's moral compass really is and how eager they are to believe in nonsense stories and invented conflicts in the press So now it didnt actually happen Welcome the post truth era Like I said in my previous post which you ignored Farage used to volunteer for the RNLI If you still want to believe fabricated conflicts whipped up by the press then go ahead. But dont be surprised when the rest of us aren't so easily taken in Are you suggesting Farage didn't say it?or because he alledgly used to work for them ,this gives him carte blanche to criticise them? The RNLI put out a video claiming that were abused when rescuing refugees which according to you is'fabricated' It's a tough one to call. The RNLI or you." Then what does Farage saying that the RNLI is being misused as a taxi service have to do with it? They are and people are now quitting the service because of it But like I say, you carry on believing the press saying that Farage attacked the RNLI and people with common sense will carry on ignoring their fabrications | |||
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"Only on this forum could the fact that immigrants leave a French shore to attempt to cross 50 miles of one of the busiest sea lanes in the world in flimsy boats and try to land on UK shores, and it be a deflection to mention the French with regard to it being part of the solution. Now there is 'priceless' if you ever did see it!!! To a previous poster, the UK has paid over £154 million in the last 3 years to the French to assist with the problem. It needs a solution. That saves lives and is workable for everyone - not least of which the migrants. Yep. It's like some nutcase walking around a swimming pool pushing people into the deep end but nobody is allowed to talk about the nutcase Standard though and shows where people's moral compass really is and how eager they are to believe in nonsense stories and invented conflicts in the press So now it didnt actually happen Welcome the post truth era Like I said in my previous post which you ignored Farage used to volunteer for the RNLI If you still want to believe fabricated conflicts whipped up by the press then go ahead. But dont be surprised when the rest of us aren't so easily taken in Are you suggesting Farage didn't say it?or because he alledgly used to work for them ,this gives him carte blanche to criticise them? The RNLI put out a video claiming that were abused when rescuing refugees which according to you is'fabricated' It's a tough one to call. The RNLI or you." I've spent thus entire thread saying fuck Farage but in all honesty I haven't even read what he said. Can you tell me what he said against the RNLI? | |||
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"Only on this forum could the fact that immigrants leave a French shore to attempt to cross 50 miles of one of the busiest sea lanes in the world in flimsy boats and try to land on UK shores, and it be a deflection to mention the French with regard to it being part of the solution. Now there is 'priceless' if you ever did see it!!! To a previous poster, the UK has paid over £154 million in the last 3 years to the French to assist with the problem. It needs a solution. That saves lives and is workable for everyone - not least of which the migrants. Yep. It's like some nutcase walking around a swimming pool pushing people into the deep end but nobody is allowed to talk about the nutcase Standard though and shows where people's moral compass really is and how eager they are to believe in nonsense stories and invented conflicts in the press So now it didnt actually happen Welcome the post truth era Like I said in my previous post which you ignored Farage used to volunteer for the RNLI If you still want to believe fabricated conflicts whipped up by the press then go ahead. But dont be surprised when the rest of us aren't so easily taken in Are you suggesting Farage didn't say it?or because he alledgly used to work for them ,this gives him carte blanche to criticise them? The RNLI put out a video claiming that were abused when rescuing refugees which according to you is'fabricated' It's a tough one to call. The RNLI or you. Then what does Farage saying that the RNLI is being misused as a taxi service have to do with it? They are and people are now quitting the service because of it But like I say, you carry on believing the press saying that Farage attacked the RNLI and people with common sense will carry on ignoring their fabrications " So lets just get this straight Farage has said the rnli is being used as a taxi service.. we can agree on that? The rnli then issued a statement and a video ,defending what they do. But you dont think Farage was criticising the RNLI? | |||
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"It amazes me that some people are still so obsessed with Farage, isnt he a has been like may , Corbyn and Cameron? "Yup. But it seems that even though they are talking about a deadwind - it suits where it fits. Oh! And it's a deflection if you do it lol | |||
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"It amazes me that some people are still so obsessed with Farage, isnt he a has been like may , Corbyn and Cameron?
Yup. But it seems that even though they are talking about a deadwind - it suits where it fits.
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"Yet more examples of ..oh let's just ignore this story which has appeared in every major outlet because it raises uncomfortable questions about the gmnt. Maybe we should have a charter about what we can and cant discuss.?" You are getting confused again Farage has nothing to do with the government. | |||
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"It amazes me that some people are still so obsessed with Farage, isnt he a has been like may , Corbyn and Cameron?
Yup. But it seems that even though they are talking about a deadwind - it suits where it fits.
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"What happened in Greece, Italy and Spain over the last few years, is now being played out in Kent, Sussex and Essex. Once a trickle starts being a flood, then hostility will rise. Its a problem that's very hard to stop, and some locals are getting angry. Solutions are not easy. And yes, people will exploit the situation for political capital. " Hostility has been rising for years. Not helped by a gmnt which are happy to ignore the human rights of said immigrants. The grown up solution would be a cross country resolution. However it's much easier to score political points by being tough on immigration. The fact that other countries take significantly more migrants than we do,seems tobe lost in the debate. | |||
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"What happened in Greece, Italy and Spain over the last few years, is now being played out in Kent, Sussex and Essex. Once a trickle starts being a flood, then hostility will rise. Its a problem that's very hard to stop, and some locals are getting angry. Solutions are not easy. And yes, people will exploit the situation for political capital. Hostility has been rising for years. Not helped by a gmnt which are happy to ignore the human rights of said immigrants. The grown up solution would be a cross country resolution. However it's much easier to score political points by being tough on immigration. The fact that other countries take significantly more migrants than we do,seems tobe lost in the debate." Tell that to all the immigrants that live in eu funded camps in Turkey. | |||
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"Only on this forum could the fact that immigrants leave a French shore to attempt to cross 50 miles of one of the busiest sea lanes in the world in flimsy boats and try to land on UK shores, and it be a deflection to mention the French with regard to it being part of the solution. Now there is 'priceless' if you ever did see it!!! To a previous poster, the UK has paid over £154 million in the last 3 years to the French to assist with the problem. It needs a solution. That saves lives and is workable for everyone - not least of which the migrants. Yep. It's like some nutcase walking around a swimming pool pushing people into the deep end but nobody is allowed to talk about the nutcase Standard though and shows where people's moral compass really is and how eager they are to believe in nonsense stories and invented conflicts in the press So now it didnt actually happen Welcome the post truth era Like I said in my previous post which you ignored Farage used to volunteer for the RNLI If you still want to believe fabricated conflicts whipped up by the press then go ahead. But dont be surprised when the rest of us aren't so easily taken in Are you suggesting Farage didn't say it?or because he alledgly used to work for them ,this gives him carte blanche to criticise them? The RNLI put out a video claiming that were abused when rescuing refugees which according to you is'fabricated' It's a tough one to call. The RNLI or you. Then what does Farage saying that the RNLI is being misused as a taxi service have to do with it? They are and people are now quitting the service because of it But like I say, you carry on believing the press saying that Farage attacked the RNLI and people with common sense will carry on ignoring their fabrications So lets just get this straight Farage has said the rnli is being used as a taxi service.. we can agree on that? The rnli then issued a statement and a video ,defending what they do. But you dont think Farage was criticising the RNLI?" The RNLI video is not remotely a defence of themselves, it doesn't even mention this fabricated 'attack' from Farage. They're talking about their experiences and the pressure that they are now under Again you are as desperate to distribute this nonsense as the press are to print it | |||
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"I stand by my comments about that the RNLI are being used as taxi service.. here is my messege to them after they decided to pick a fight with me in the guardian N Farage Is this fabricated too or is another example of Farage not criticising the rnli?" Just watched that video. He doesn't criticise the RNLI at all for what they do. In fact, if you listen to it, you'll see he is criticising the Governement. He says it should be for Border Force or the Navy to deal with this crisis | |||
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"Yet more examples of ..oh let's just ignore this story which has appeared in every major outlet because it raises uncomfortable questions about the gmnt. Maybe we should have a charter about what we can and can't discuss.?You are getting confused again Farage has nothing to do with the government. "Yup. See I would have thought that as it appears in EVERY MAJOR outlet that it was in Labour supporting press too - which it is - in violating all those infertile free-thinking minds, you know like the majority of them that we have seen here in their clear support of RNLI - but hey-ho !! | |||
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"Only on this forum could the fact that immigrants leave a French shore to attempt to cross 50 miles of one of the busiest sea lanes in the world in flimsy boats and try to land on UK shores, and it be a deflection to mention the French with regard to it being part of the solution. Now there is 'priceless' if you ever did see it!!! To a previous poster, the UK has paid over £154 million in the last 3 years to the French to assist with the problem. It needs a solution. That saves lives and is workable for everyone - not least of which the migrants. Yep. It's like some nutcase walking around a swimming pool pushing people into the deep end but nobody is allowed to talk about the nutcase Standard though and shows where people's moral compass really is and how eager they are to believe in nonsense stories and invented conflicts in the press So now it didnt actually happen Welcome the post truth era Like I said in my previous post which you ignored Farage used to volunteer for the RNLI If you still want to believe fabricated conflicts whipped up by the press then go ahead. But dont be surprised when the rest of us aren't so easily taken in Are you suggesting Farage didn't say it?or because he alledgly used to work for them ,this gives him carte blanche to criticise them? The RNLI put out a video claiming that were abused when rescuing refugees which according to you is'fabricated' It's a tough one to call. The RNLI or you. Then what does Farage saying that the RNLI is being misused as a taxi service have to do with it? They are and people are now quitting the service because of it But like I say, you carry on believing the press saying that Farage attacked the RNLI and people with common sense will carry on ignoring their fabrications So lets just get this straight Farage has said the rnli is being used as a taxi service.. we can agree on that? The rnli then issued a statement and a video ,defending what they do. But you dont think Farage was criticising the RNLI? The RNLI video is not remotely a defence of themselves, it doesn't even mention this fabricated 'attack' from Farage. They're talking about their experiences and the pressure that they are now under Again you are as desperate to distribute this nonsense as the press are to print it " I think that bears repeating That rnli video is not remotely a defence of itself. A video which explicitly shows what and why they do it,is not a defence of itself. There really is no arguing with that. Farage is on twitter directly talking about the rnli picking a fight..and it's still 'fabricated ' When something happens..simply deny it It's the trump way. | |||
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" The grown up solution would be a cross country resolution. " Oh you mean that deflection France? Yea let's leave them out of it in it - wait a sec. . . | |||
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"I stand by my comments about that the RNLI are being used as taxi service.. here is my messege to them after they decided to pick a fight with me in the guardian N Farage Is this fabricated too or is another example of Farage not criticising the rnli? Just watched that video. He doesn't criticise the RNLI at all for what they do. In fact, if you listen to it, you'll see he is criticising the Governement. He says it should be for Border Force or the Navy to deal with this crisis" Yup but it's quite fun watching our Liverpudlian friend dodge, sidetrack and deflect from the fact that he's been taken in yet again by another non story | |||
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"I stand by my comments about that the RNLI are being used as taxi service.. here is my messege to them after they decided to pick a fight with me in the guardian N Farage Is this fabricated too or is another example of Farage not criticising the rnli? Just watched that video. He doesn't criticise the RNLI at all for what they do. In fact, if you listen to it, you'll see he is criticising the Governement. He says it should be for Border Force or the Navy to deal with this crisis Yup but it's quite fun watching our Liverpudlian friend dodge, sidetrack and deflect from the fact that he's been taken in yet again by another non story "
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"I stand by my comments about that the RNLI are being used as taxi service.. here is my messege to them after they decided to pick a fight with me in the guardian N Farage Is this fabricated too or is another example of Farage not criticising the rnli? Just watched that video. He doesn't criticise the RNLI at all for what they do. In fact, if you listen to it, you'll see he is criticising the Governement. He says it should be for Border Force or the Navy to deal with this crisis Yup but it's quite fun watching our Liverpudlian friend dodge, sidetrack and deflect from the fact that he's been taken in yet again by another non story "I'm not sure he has actually watched that video. Think he has just read a headline and made his mind up | |||
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"Nigel I wonder if the rnli have used the same pr firm as harry and Meghan GB news Another example of the media inventing a story that mr farage is somehow critical of the RNLI " Also Nigel.... It is an organisation that I have the most massive admiration for. | |||
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"So to sum up Farage has accused the rnli of being a taxi service for migrants He has accused the rnli of picking a fight with him in the guardian He has questioned the pr team (All actual quotes) But none of the above equates to actual criticism
Another day in la la land."So to sum up... The last 2 are correct. That means both happened. The first one is far from correct. That means that whilst the words you write are true but you're very purposefully leaving out the context. Should Farage not defend his position even when quotes attributed to him are clearly out of context? What | |||
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"I stand by my comments about that the RNLI are being used as taxi service.. here is my messege to them after they decided to pick a fight with me in the guardian N Farage Is this fabricated too or is another example of Farage not criticising the rnli? Just watched that video. He doesn't criticise the RNLI at all for what they do. In fact, if you listen to it, you'll see he is criticising the Governement. He says it should be for Border Force or the Navy to deal with this crisis Yup but it's quite fun watching our Liverpudlian friend dodge, sidetrack and deflect from the fact that he's been taken in yet again by another non story
I'm not sure he has actually watched that video.
Think he has just read a headline and made his mind up "I'm actually convinced that he's a Tory stooge and his exploits on here are part of a brilliant plan to subvert the left by making them look even more absurd than they already do | |||
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"I stand by my comments about that the RNLI are being used as taxi service.. here is my messege to them after they decided to pick a fight with me in the guardian N Farage Is this fabricated too or is another example of Farage not criticising the rnli? Just watched that video. He doesn't criticise the RNLI at all for what they do. In fact, if you listen to it, you'll see he is criticising the Governement. He says it should be for Border Force or the Navy to deal with this crisis Yup but it's quite fun watching our Liverpudlian friend dodge, sidetrack and deflect from the fact that he's been taken in yet again by another non story
I'm not sure he has actually watched that video.
Think he has just read a headline and made his mind up
I'm actually convinced that he's a Tory stooge and his exploits on here are part of a brilliant plan to subvert the left by making them look even more absurd than they already do "Clever move Just completely ignore the exact quotes which complete rubbish your 'fabrication 'argument and try to focus on the poster. Respect | |||
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"I stand by my comments about that the RNLI are being used as taxi service.. here is my messege to them after they decided to pick a fight with me in the guardian N Farage Is this fabricated too or is another example of Farage not criticising the rnli? Just watched that video. He doesn't criticise the RNLI at all for what they do. In fact, if you listen to it, you'll see he is criticising the Governement. He says it should be for Border Force or the Navy to deal with this crisis Yup but it's quite fun watching our Liverpudlian friend dodge, sidetrack and deflect from the fact that he's been taken in yet again by another non story
I'm not sure he has actually watched that video.
Think he has just read a headline and made his mind up
I'm actually convinced that he's a Tory stooge and his exploits on here are part of a brilliant plan to subvert the left by making them look even more absurd than they already do
Clever move
Just completely ignore the exact quotes which complete rubbish your 'fabrication 'argument and try to focus on the poster.
Respect
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"Gammons ripping into the rnli into blaming the french in 3 easy steps
ClassicWho on here has ripped into the RNLI ?
The French must have such a crap boarder control if they cannot detect boats a mile from their shores, i wonder if it would be the same if it was drugs going into France rather than immigrants leaving.
The French could turn these boats around a mile or so from the shore but instead are quiet content for them to endanger their lives and put money into criminals pockets such a caring nation i bet they must be really proud.
Exactly! It's convenient for the French to get shot of them, despite being paid by the British Government
Sorry to talk about the actual topic.. but what's that got to do with what Farage and his ilk have said about the rnli?I havnt actually read what he said but the RNLI is there to save anyone. Thank god most sailors are responsible people and would not set sail in an unseaworthy vessel and do not put themselves in danger on purpose.
With all the staycations this year lets hope they are not over stretched and people who find themselves in trouble are still able to make use of their excelent services.
Going to sea off the coast of Cornwall in an inflatable swan is pretty much irresponsible so let’s hope the mail tells the RNLI to not rescue those either. Imagine the British coastguard letting those irresponsible idiots sail from our coast.
Daft post...if the guardian told you to jump?????
The RNLI risk their lives for such idiots on a daily basis. Why should they bother? Why do they go out to sea in a fucking swan? Same principal as the accusations of the immigrants being foolish.
Saving idiots on inflatables could risk the RNLI being too busy to rescue sailors from a ship in trouble.
Your tolerance seems at a low level and besides as has already been highlighted it's illegal to leave French shores in such vessels"Your inability to see the irony is simple staggering. An volunteer organisation is being criticised in the right wing media and by fanatical beach watchers like Farage for saving lives . Do you get that bit?? | |||
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"I stand by my comments about that the RNLI are being used as taxi service.. here is my messege to them after they decided to pick a fight with me in the guardian N Farage Is this fabricated too or is another example of Farage not criticising the rnli? Just watched that video. He doesn't criticise the RNLI at all for what they do. In fact, if you listen to it, you'll see he is criticising the Governement. He says it should be for Border Force or the Navy to deal with this crisis Yup but it's quite fun watching our Liverpudlian friend dodge, sidetrack and deflect from the fact that he's been taken in yet again by another non story
I'm not sure he has actually watched that video.
Think he has just read a headline and made his mind up
I'm actually convinced that he's a Tory stooge and his exploits on here are part of a brilliant plan to subvert the left by making them look even more absurd than they already do
Clever move
Just completely ignore the exact quotes which complete rubbish your 'fabrication 'argument and try to focus on the poster.
Respect
It's over Lionel but God loves a tryer "I'm not sure what's more embarassing. The fact that your argument has been completely demolished and you are trying to brush it off or the fact that the little collective who have backed you up,now once again have egg on their faces. But nice effort | |||
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"Gammons ripping into the rnli into blaming the french in 3 easy steps
ClassicWho on here has ripped into the RNLI ?
The French must have such a crap boarder control if they cannot detect boats a mile from their shores, i wonder if it would be the same if it was drugs going into France rather than immigrants leaving.
The French could turn these boats around a mile or so from the shore but instead are quiet content for them to endanger their lives and put money into criminals pockets such a caring nation i bet they must be really proud.
Exactly! It's convenient for the French to get shot of them, despite being paid by the British Government
Sorry to talk about the actual topic.. but what's that got to do with what Farage and his ilk have said about the rnli?I havnt actually read what he said but the RNLI is there to save anyone. Thank god most sailors are responsible people and would not set sail in an unseaworthy vessel and do not put themselves in danger on purpose.
With all the staycations this year lets hope they are not over stretched and people who find themselves in trouble are still able to make use of their excelent services.
Going to sea off the coast of Cornwall in an inflatable swan is pretty much irresponsible so let’s hope the mail tells the RNLI to not rescue those either. Imagine the British coastguard letting those irresponsible idiots sail from our coast.
Daft post...if the guardian told you to jump?????
The RNLI risk their lives for such idiots on a daily basis. Why should they bother? Why do they go out to sea in a fucking swan? Same principal as the accusations of the immigrants being foolish.
Saving idiots on inflatables could risk the RNLI being too busy to rescue sailors from a ship in trouble.
Your tolerance seems at a low level and besides as has already been highlighted it's illegal to leave French shores in such vessels
Your inability to see the irony is simple staggering.
An volunteer organisation is being criticised in the right wing media and by fanatical beach watchers like Farage for saving lives . Do you get that bit?? "Havent you been taking notes. According to the esteemed Tory collective Farage hasnt criticised them at all. It's a media fabrication | |||
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"I stand by my comments about that the RNLI are being used as taxi service.. here is my messege to them after they decided to pick a fight with me in the guardian N Farage Is this fabricated too or is another example of Farage not criticising the rnli? Just watched that video. He doesn't criticise the RNLI at all for what they do. In fact, if you listen to it, you'll see he is criticising the Governement. He says it should be for Border Force or the Navy to deal with this crisis Yup but it's quite fun watching our Liverpudlian friend dodge, sidetrack and deflect from the fact that he's been taken in yet again by another non story
I'm not sure he has actually watched that video.
Think he has just read a headline and made his mind up
I'm actually convinced that he's a Tory stooge and his exploits on here are part of a brilliant plan to subvert the left by making them look even more absurd than they already do
Clever move
Just completely ignore the exact quotes which complete rubbish your 'fabrication 'argument and try to focus on the poster.
Respect
It's over Lionel but God loves a tryer
I'm not sure what's more embarassing.
The fact that your argument has been completely demolished and you are trying to brush it off or the fact that the little collective who have backed you up,now once again have egg on their faces.
But nice effort
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"Gammons ripping into the rnli into blaming the french in 3 easy steps
ClassicWho on here has ripped into the RNLI ?
The French must have such a crap boarder control if they cannot detect boats a mile from their shores, i wonder if it would be the same if it was drugs going into France rather than immigrants leaving.
The French could turn these boats around a mile or so from the shore but instead are quiet content for them to endanger their lives and put money into criminals pockets such a caring nation i bet they must be really proud.
Exactly! It's convenient for the French to get shot of them, despite being paid by the British Government
Sorry to talk about the actual topic.. but what's that got to do with what Farage and his ilk have said about the rnli?I havnt actually read what he said but the RNLI is there to save anyone. Thank god most sailors are responsible people and would not set sail in an unseaworthy vessel and do not put themselves in danger on purpose.
With all the staycations this year lets hope they are not over stretched and people who find themselves in trouble are still able to make use of their excelent services.
Going to sea off the coast of Cornwall in an inflatable swan is pretty much irresponsible so let’s hope the mail tells the RNLI to not rescue those either. Imagine the British coastguard letting those irresponsible idiots sail from our coast.
Daft post...if the guardian told you to jump?????
The RNLI risk their lives for such idiots on a daily basis. Why should they bother? Why do they go out to sea in a fucking swan? Same principal as the accusations of the immigrants being foolish.
Saving idiots on inflatables could risk the RNLI being too busy to rescue sailors from a ship in trouble.
Your tolerance seems at a low level and besides as has already been highlighted it's illegal to leave French shores in such vessels
Your inability to see the irony is simple staggering.
An volunteer organisation is being criticised in the right wing media and by fanatical beach watchers like Farage for saving lives . Do you get that bit?? "There is no irony. Farage has not criticised the RNLI for saving lives. Please go watch the video before coming back to me. | |||
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"What happened in Greece, Italy and Spain over the last few years, is now being played out in Kent, Sussex and Essex. Once a trickle starts being a flood, then hostility will rise. Its a problem that's very hard to stop, and some locals are getting angry. Solutions are not easy. And yes, people will exploit the situation for political capital. Hostility has been rising for years. Not helped by a gmnt which are happy to ignore the human rights of said immigrants. The grown up solution would be a cross country resolution. However it's much easier to score political points by being tough on immigration. The fact that other countries take significantly more migrants than we do,seems tobe lost in the debate.Tell that to all the immigrants that live in eu funded camps in Turkey." Yes mostly Syrians Tell me again who was doing the vast majority of the bombing there? | |||
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"The usual standard of throwing out insults and then taking offence when anything is said back. Entirely predictable again." You would have the high ground if you hadn’t thrown out the Gammon insult at the start of the thread. These back and forths go both ways. You all need your heads banging together. | |||
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"The usual standard of throwing out insults and then taking offence when anything is said back. Entirely predictable again. You would have the high ground if you hadn’t thrown out the Gammon insult at the start of the thread. These back and forths go both ways. You all need your heads banging together. " If the gammons remark was aimed at anyone on here ,you may actually have a point. | |||
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"ah just say gammons with no reason - that's sound reasonable." That's how it works, don't aim it at anyone in particular and then claim it was taken out of context. Something he knows all about | |||
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"Gammons ripping into the rnli into blaming the french in 3 easy steps
Classic"By you. | |||
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"The usual standard of throwing out insults and then taking offence when anything is said back. Entirely predictable again. You would have the high ground if you hadn’t thrown out the Gammon insult at the start of the thread. These back and forths go both ways. You all need your heads banging together. If the gammons remark was aimed at anyone on here ,you may actually have a point." Ok so it’s just coincidence that you put it under the first comment that mentioned the French. | |||
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"It's of course a complete coincidence that once the whole..its a fabrication/farage never said anything bad about the rnli argument was completely shredded..the thread becomes personal. " It hasn't been ripped to shreds at all. I'm still here waiting to have a discussion but you seem to be avoiding my points for some bizarre reason | |||
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"The usual standard of throwing out insults and then taking offence when anything is said back. Entirely predictable again. You would have the high ground if you hadn’t thrown out the Gammon insult at the start of the thread. These back and forths go both ways. You all need your heads banging together. If the gammons remark was aimed at anyone on here ,you may actually have a point. Ok so it’s just coincidence that you put it under the first comment that mentioned the French. "Cant even be arsed arguing. The gammons remark was aimed at no one on here which you know full well. Unlike the numerous tory stooge and personal remarks aimed at yours truly. | |||
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"The usual standard of throwing out insults and then taking offence when anything is said back. Entirely predictable again. You would have the high ground if you hadn’t thrown out the Gammon insult at the start of the thread. These back and forths go both ways. You all need your heads banging together. If the gammons remark was aimed at anyone on here ,you may actually have a point. Ok so it’s just coincidence that you put it under the first comment that mentioned the French. "My gammon remark was aimed at people ripping into the rnli. Considering no one has done that,I'd say your argument is slightly flawed. | |||
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"The usual standard of throwing out insults and then taking offence when anything is said back. Entirely predictable again. You would have the high ground if you hadn’t thrown out the Gammon insult at the start of the thread. These back and forths go both ways. You all need your heads banging together. If the gammons remark was aimed at anyone on here ,you may actually have a point. Ok so it’s just coincidence that you put it under the first comment that mentioned the French.
Cant even be arsed arguing.
The gammons remark was aimed at no one on here which you know full well.
Unlike the numerous tory stooge and personal remarks aimed at yours truly."How do I know full well? Look at the optics of when you made that remark and then told another poster it wasnt aimed at them ergo it was aimed at someone. You have been called some names but you do the same with the knitting circle comments and others. I don’t subscribe to a Lionel pile on but you do give it out but cry foul when it comes back. It should all stop from both sides. | |||
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"The usual standard of throwing out insults and then taking offence when anything is said back. Entirely predictable again. You would have the high ground if you hadn’t thrown out the Gammon insult at the start of the thread. These back and forths go both ways. You all need your heads banging together. If the gammons remark was aimed at anyone on here ,you may actually have a point. Ok so it’s just coincidence that you put it under the first comment that mentioned the French.
Cant even be arsed arguing.
The gammons remark was aimed at no one on here which you know full well.
Unlike the numerous tory stooge and personal remarks aimed at yours truly.
How do I know full well? Look at the optics of when you made that remark and then told another poster it wasnt aimed at them ergo it was aimed at someone.
You have been called some names but you do the same with the knitting circle comments and others.
I don’t subscribe to a Lionel pile on but you do give it out but cry foul when it comes back.
It should all stop from both sides. "Because it was not aimed at a particular poster. I would have thought that was obvious? It was a remark aimed at the people who were criticising the rnli(calling for it to be defunded etc) However if people wanna take offence at a remark not aimed at them,so be it. | |||
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"The usual standard of throwing out insults and then taking offence when anything is said back. Entirely predictable again. You would have the high ground if you hadn’t thrown out the Gammon insult at the start of the thread. These back and forths go both ways. You all need your heads banging together. If the gammons remark was aimed at anyone on here ,you may actually have a point. Ok so it’s just coincidence that you put it under the first comment that mentioned the French.
Cant even be arsed arguing.
The gammons remark was aimed at no one on here which you know full well.
Unlike the numerous tory stooge and personal remarks aimed at yours truly.
How do I know full well? Look at the optics of when you made that remark and then told another poster it wasnt aimed at them ergo it was aimed at someone.
You have been called some names but you do the same with the knitting circle comments and others.
I don’t subscribe to a Lionel pile on but you do give it out but cry foul when it comes back.
It should all stop from both sides.
Because it was not aimed at a particular poster.
I would have thought that was obvious?
It was a remark aimed at the people who were criticising the rnli(calling for it to be defunded etc)
However if people wanna take offence at a remark not aimed at them,so be it."What were the 3 easy steps you mentioned in the same post as the term gammons | |||
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"The usual standard of throwing out insults and then taking offence when anything is said back. Entirely predictable again. You would have the high ground if you hadn’t thrown out the Gammon insult at the start of the thread. These back and forths go both ways. You all need your heads banging together. If the gammons remark was aimed at anyone on here ,you may actually have a point. Ok so it’s just coincidence that you put it under the first comment that mentioned the French.
Cant even be arsed arguing.
The gammons remark was aimed at no one on here which you know full well.
Unlike the numerous tory stooge and personal remarks aimed at yours truly.
How do I know full well? Look at the optics of when you made that remark and then told another poster it wasnt aimed at them ergo it was aimed at someone.
You have been called some names but you do the same with the knitting circle comments and others.
I don’t subscribe to a Lionel pile on but you do give it out but cry foul when it comes back.
It should all stop from both sides.
Because it was not aimed at a particular poster.
I would have thought that was obvious?
It was a remark aimed at the people who were criticising the rnli(calling for it to be defunded etc)
However if people wanna take offence at a remark not aimed at them,so be it.
What were the 3 easy steps you mentioned in the same post as the term gammons"That a debate on the gammons who were attacking the rnli had morphed into a debate on the French. | |||
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"The usual standard of throwing out insults and then taking offence when anything is said back. Entirely predictable again. You would have the high ground if you hadn’t thrown out the Gammon insult at the start of the thread. These back and forths go both ways. You all need your heads banging together. If the gammons remark was aimed at anyone on here ,you may actually have a point. Ok so it’s just coincidence that you put it under the first comment that mentioned the French.
Cant even be arsed arguing.
The gammons remark was aimed at no one on here which you know full well.
Unlike the numerous tory stooge and personal remarks aimed at yours truly.
How do I know full well? Look at the optics of when you made that remark and then told another poster it wasnt aimed at them ergo it was aimed at someone.
You have been called some names but you do the same with the knitting circle comments and others.
I don’t subscribe to a Lionel pile on but you do give it out but cry foul when it comes back.
It should all stop from both sides.
Because it was not aimed at a particular poster.
I would have thought that was obvious?
It was a remark aimed at the people who were criticising the rnli(calling for it to be defunded etc)
However if people wanna take offence at a remark not aimed at them,so be it.
What were the 3 easy steps you mentioned in the same post as the term gammons
That a debate on the gammons who were attacking the rnli had morphed into a debate on the French."What's a gammon? And what are the 3 steps | |||
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"Gammons ripping into the rnli into blaming the french in 3 easy steps
ClassicWho on here has ripped into the RNLI ?
The French must have such a crap boarder control if they cannot detect boats a mile from their shores, i wonder if it would be the same if it was drugs going into France rather than immigrants leaving.
The French could turn these boats around a mile or so from the shore but instead are quiet content for them to endanger their lives and put money into criminals pockets such a caring nation i bet they must be really proud.
Exactly! It's convenient for the French to get shot of them, despite being paid by the British Government
Sorry to talk about the actual topic.. but what's that got to do with what Farage and his ilk have said about the rnli?I havnt actually read what he said but the RNLI is there to save anyone. Thank god most sailors are responsible people and would not set sail in an unseaworthy vessel and do not put themselves in danger on purpose.
With all the staycations this year lets hope they are not over stretched and people who find themselves in trouble are still able to make use of their excelent services.
Going to sea off the coast of Cornwall in an inflatable swan is pretty much irresponsible so let’s hope the mail tells the RNLI to not rescue those either. Imagine the British coastguard letting those irresponsible idiots sail from our coast.
Daft post...if the guardian told you to jump?????
The RNLI risk their lives for such idiots on a daily basis. Why should they bother? Why do they go out to sea in a fucking swan? Same principal as the accusations of the immigrants being foolish.
Saving idiots on inflatables could risk the RNLI being too busy to rescue sailors from a ship in trouble.
Your tolerance seems at a low level and besides as has already been highlighted it's illegal to leave French shores in such vessels
Your inability to see the irony is simple staggering.
An volunteer organisation is being criticised in the right wing media and by fanatical beach watchers like Farage for saving lives . Do you get that bit??
There is no irony.
Farage has not criticised the RNLI for saving lives.
Please go watch the video before coming back to me."Farage claims RNLI backers are complaining as they don’t want to pay fo them to become part of the border force . No evidence to back this up. Then as I stated the beach watchers “like” Farage ( he’s a beach and boat watcher ) were criticising the RNLI for bringing in migrants . They would rather they left them to the elements instead of making sure they don’t die . That is saving lives Farage has tweeted to say “I stand by my comment that the RNLI is being used as a taxi service “. Criticism again. He then goes on to challenge them to a fight as in his words “I’ve taken on uglier and bigger people than the RNLI.” What a despicable character for anyone to support in anyway. The comment that those refugees were paying up to £20k each to cross. Utter crap exaggerated by media . If they had £20k to gamble they wouldn’t need to come to the U.K. If it’s 30k refugees as he claims it will be are we going to sink?? We need the workers blatantly. So pick them up process them and educate them into our society. I’m not sure why we are getting so much horrific abuse aimed at people desperately trying to get a better life and in many cases away from the war zones we create . If English is their second language then Britain is the target . Happy to blow up their country but not happy to offer a hand. With the cuts in foreign aid expect more of the same . | |||
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"Gammons ripping into the rnli into blaming the french in 3 easy steps
ClassicWho on here has ripped into the RNLI ?
The French must have such a crap boarder control if they cannot detect boats a mile from their shores, i wonder if it would be the same if it was drugs going into France rather than immigrants leaving.
The French could turn these boats around a mile or so from the shore but instead are quiet content for them to endanger their lives and put money into criminals pockets such a caring nation i bet they must be really proud.
Exactly! It's convenient for the French to get shot of them, despite being paid by the British Government
Sorry to talk about the actual topic.. but what's that got to do with what Farage and his ilk have said about the rnli?I havnt actually read what he said but the RNLI is there to save anyone. Thank god most sailors are responsible people and would not set sail in an unseaworthy vessel and do not put themselves in danger on purpose.
With all the staycations this year lets hope they are not over stretched and people who find themselves in trouble are still able to make use of their excelent services.
Going to sea off the coast of Cornwall in an inflatable swan is pretty much irresponsible so let’s hope the mail tells the RNLI to not rescue those either. Imagine the British coastguard letting those irresponsible idiots sail from our coast.
Daft post...if the guardian told you to jump?????
The RNLI risk their lives for such idiots on a daily basis. Why should they bother? Why do they go out to sea in a fucking swan? Same principal as the accusations of the immigrants being foolish.
Saving idiots on inflatables could risk the RNLI being too busy to rescue sailors from a ship in trouble.
Your tolerance seems at a low level and besides as has already been highlighted it's illegal to leave French shores in such vessels
Your inability to see the irony is simple staggering.
An volunteer organisation is being criticised in the right wing media and by fanatical beach watchers like Farage for saving lives . Do you get that bit??
There is no irony.
Farage has not criticised the RNLI for saving lives.
Please go watch the video before coming back to me.
Farage claims RNLI backers are complaining as they don’t want to pay fo them to become part of the border force . No evidence to back this up. Then as I stated the beach watchers “like” Farage ( he’s a beach and boat watcher ) were criticising the RNLI for bringing in migrants . They would rather they left them to the elements instead of making sure they don’t die . That is saving lives
Farage has tweeted to say “I stand by my comment that the RNLI is being used as a taxi service “. Criticism again. He then goes on to challenge them to a fight as in his words “I’ve taken on uglier and bigger people than the RNLI.”
What a despicable character for anyone to support in anyway.
The comment that those refugees were paying up to £20k each to cross. Utter crap exaggerated by media . If they had £20k to gamble they wouldn’t need to come to the U.K.
If it’s 30k refugees as he claims it will be are we going to sink?? We need the workers blatantly. So pick them up process them and educate them into our society.
I’m not sure why we are getting so much horrific abuse aimed at people desperately trying to get a better life and in many cases away from the war zones we create .
If English is their second language then Britain is the target .
Happy to blow up their country but not happy to offer a hand. With the cuts in foreign aid expect more of the same . "Has has also tweeted that the rnli have attacked him in the guardian and criticised their pr team. Apparently none of this constitutes criticism and it's a complete coincidence that the RNLI have issued a video defending what they do. None of this is related to farages 'fabricated'quotes. | |||
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"Gammons ripping into the rnli into blaming the french in 3 easy steps
ClassicWho on here has ripped into the RNLI ?
The French must have such a crap boarder control if they cannot detect boats a mile from their shores, i wonder if it would be the same if it was drugs going into France rather than immigrants leaving.
The French could turn these boats around a mile or so from the shore but instead are quiet content for them to endanger their lives and put money into criminals pockets such a caring nation i bet they must be really proud.
Exactly! It's convenient for the French to get shot of them, despite being paid by the British Government
Sorry to talk about the actual topic.. but what's that got to do with what Farage and his ilk have said about the rnli?I havnt actually read what he said but the RNLI is there to save anyone. Thank god most sailors are responsible people and would not set sail in an unseaworthy vessel and do not put themselves in danger on purpose.
With all the staycations this year lets hope they are not over stretched and people who find themselves in trouble are still able to make use of their excelent services.
Going to sea off the coast of Cornwall in an inflatable swan is pretty much irresponsible so let’s hope the mail tells the RNLI to not rescue those either. Imagine the British coastguard letting those irresponsible idiots sail from our coast.
Daft post...if the guardian told you to jump?????
The RNLI risk their lives for such idiots on a daily basis. Why should they bother? Why do they go out to sea in a fucking swan? Same principal as the accusations of the immigrants being foolish.
Saving idiots on inflatables could risk the RNLI being too busy to rescue sailors from a ship in trouble.
Your tolerance seems at a low level and besides as has already been highlighted it's illegal to leave French shores in such vessels
Your inability to see the irony is simple staggering.
An volunteer organisation is being criticised in the right wing media and by fanatical beach watchers like Farage for saving lives . Do you get that bit??
There is no irony.
Farage has not criticised the RNLI for saving lives.
Please go watch the video before coming back to me.
Farage claims RNLI backers are complaining as they don’t want to pay fo them to become part of the border force . No evidence to back this up. Then as I stated the beach watchers “like” Farage ( he’s a beach and boat watcher ) were criticising the RNLI for bringing in migrants . They would rather they left them to the elements instead of making sure they don’t die . That is saving lives
Farage has tweeted to say “I stand by my comment that the RNLI is being used as a taxi service “. Criticism again. He then goes on to challenge them to a fight as in his words “I’ve taken on uglier and bigger people than the RNLI.”
What a despicable character for anyone to support in anyway.
The comment that those refugees were paying up to £20k each to cross. Utter crap exaggerated by media . If they had £20k to gamble they wouldn’t need to come to the U.K.
If it’s 30k refugees as he claims it will be are we going to sink?? We need the workers blatantly. So pick them up process them and educate them into our society.
I’m not sure why we are getting so much horrific abuse aimed at people desperately trying to get a better life and in many cases away from the war zones we create .
If English is their second language then Britain is the target .
Happy to blow up their country but not happy to offer a hand. With the cuts in foreign aid expect more of the same . "Did you watch the same video as me? Farage did say he has taken on bigger corporations in the one I watched. He also said it should be a job for Border Force or the Navy and not left up to the RNLI volunteers to pick up their slack. I'm all for saying Fuck Farage if he wants people to die but let's not get into 'he said this' when in fact if you watch the video he is not criticising them for saving lives as some would like to believe. | |||
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"Does Farage still go looking on beaches for ‘immigrants’ ? " Media fabrication Obvs | |||
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"Does Farage still go looking on beaches for ‘immigrants’ ? Media fabrication Obvs" He made a ‘documentary’ about it? I think he is a bit upset that Brexit has made the situation worse | |||
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"Does Farage still go looking on beaches for ‘immigrants’ ? Media fabrication Obvs He made a ‘documentary’ about it? I think he is a bit upset that Brexit has made the situation worse "Are you sure its just not another attempt by the media to shed him in a bad light? He used to work for the rnli you know? Although what this means is..he shook a few tins when he was out canvassing. | |||
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"Just watched the video and he,s upset about the money given by most to the charity of the RNLI" Why is he upset about that ? | |||
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"I agree, No one one this thread has mentioned the poor desperate refugees who are escaping all sorts of hardships and are only looking for a better life for their family,as we would do in their shoes. We also have to remember that Priti Pattel,s parents where economic immigrants. I have spoken to some of these people and they are desperate human beings! " I agree, but Farsge thinks we are at ‘breaking point’ his Brexit poster looks even showed a large queue of alleged immigrants (not in this country though) | |||
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"Just watched the video and he,s upset about the money given by most to the charity of the RNLI Why is he upset about that ? " Because people give to charity to help the RNLI not the migrants | |||
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"Just watched the video and he,s upset about the money given by most to the charity of the RNLI Why is he upset about that ? Because people give to charity to help the RNLI not the migrants " Ah right, he must be confused, bless | |||
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"Just watched the video and he,s upset about the money given by most to the charity of the RNLI Why is he upset about that ? Because people give to charity to help the RNLI not the migrants " So the rnli should let them drown? | |||
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"Just watched the video and he,s upset about the money given by most to the charity of the RNLI Why is he upset about that ? Because people give to charity to help the RNLI not the migrants So the rnli should let them drown?" I think Nigel is getting angry and confused, it’s probably down to the fact that since Brexit and ‘taking back control’ there has been an increase in migrants crossing the channel either that or he wants the RNLI to only rescue ‘British ‘ people | |||
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"Just watched the video and he,s upset about the money given by most to the charity of the RNLI Why is he upset about that ? Because people give to charity to help the RNLI not the migrants So the rnli should let them drown? I think Nigel is getting angry and confused, it’s probably down to the fact that since Brexit and ‘taking back control’ there has been an increase in migrants crossing the channel either that or he wants the RNLI to only rescue ‘British ‘ people " Very true But at least we can be fully confident he has never criticised the rnli | |||
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"Just watched the video and he,s upset about the money given by most to the charity of the RNLI Why is he upset about that ? Because people give to charity to help the RNLI not the migrants So the rnli should let them drown? I think Nigel is getting angry and confused, it’s probably down to the fact that since Brexit and ‘taking back control’ there has been an increase in migrants crossing the channel either that or he wants the RNLI to only rescue ‘British ‘ people Very true But at least we can be fully confident he has never criticised the rnli "On the plus side , since Farage ‘definitely didn’t criticise the RNLI’ there has been a surge in donations to the RNLI, maybe that was always his intention? | |||
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"Just watched the video and he,s upset about the money given by most to the charity of the RNLI Why is he upset about that ? Because people give to charity to help the RNLI not the migrants So the rnli should let them drown? I think Nigel is getting angry and confused, it’s probably down to the fact that since Brexit and ‘taking back control’ there has been an increase in migrants crossing the channel either that or he wants the RNLI to only rescue ‘British ‘ people Very true But at least we can be fully confident he has never criticised the rnli
On the plus side , since Farage ‘definitely didn’t criticise the RNLI’ there has been a surge in donations to the RNLI, maybe that was always his intention?
"Well as the consensus on here appears to be the media made up the story, either that or it was just a sheer coincidence that his words have led to a show of support? | |||
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"Just watched the video and he,s upset about the money given by most to the charity of the RNLI Why is he upset about that ? Because people give to charity to help the RNLI not the migrants So the rnli should let them drown? I think Nigel is getting angry and confused, it’s probably down to the fact that since Brexit and ‘taking back control’ there has been an increase in migrants crossing the channel either that or he wants the RNLI to only rescue ‘British ‘ people Very true But at least we can be fully confident he has never criticised the rnli
On the plus side , since Farage ‘definitely didn’t criticise the RNLI’ there has been a surge in donations to the RNLI, maybe that was always his intention?
Well as the consensus on here appears to be the media made up the story, either that or it was just a sheer coincidence that his words have led to a show of support?"Must be coincidence?? | |||
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"I agree, No one one this thread has mentioned the poor desperate refugees who are escaping all sorts of hardships and are only looking for a better life for their family,as we would do in their shoes. We also have to remember that Priti Pattel,s parents where economic immigrants. I have spoken to some of these people and they are desperate human beings! " escaping hardships in france? I thought mainland europe was an open and welcoming place unlike the horrible uk | |||
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"I agree, No one one this thread has mentioned the poor desperate refugees who are escaping all sorts of hardships and are only looking for a better life for their family,as we would do in their shoes. We also have to remember that Priti Pattel,s parents where economic immigrants. I have spoken to some of these people and they are desperate human beings! escaping hardships in france? I thought mainland europe was an open and welcoming place unlike the horrible uk" | |||
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"I agree, No one one this thread has mentioned the poor desperate refugees who are escaping all sorts of hardships and are only looking for a better life for their family,as we would do in their shoes. We also have to remember that Priti Pattel,s parents where economic immigrants. I have spoken to some of these people and they are desperate human beings! escaping hardships in france? I thought mainland europe was an open and welcoming place unlike the horrible uk" They aren’t from France | |||
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"I agree, No one one this thread has mentioned the poor desperate refugees who are escaping all sorts of hardships and are only looking for a better life for their family,as we would do in their shoes. We also have to remember that Priti Pattel,s parents where economic immigrants. I have spoken to some of these people and they are desperate human beings! escaping hardships in france? I thought mainland europe was an open and welcoming place unlike the horrible uk They aren’t from France " Why dont they want to stay in Europe and risk their lives to get to the uk isn't it as good or safe as the uk? | |||
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"I agree, No one one this thread has mentioned the poor desperate refugees who are escaping all sorts of hardships and are only looking for a better life for their family,as we would do in their shoes. We also have to remember that Priti Pattel,s parents where economic immigrants. I have spoken to some of these people and they are desperate human beings! escaping hardships in france? I thought mainland europe was an open and welcoming place unlike the horrible uk They aren’t from France " I think that fact escaped him. | |||
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