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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago
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"Tbf if they focused on attacking that incompetent buffoon ,instead of pointless internal legal battles,they may not be so skint."
Exactly just more incompetence from them how can we trust them with the countries priorities when they cant even get their own ones right? Totally unelectable.
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You would think if you were responsibile for the highest ever levels of unemployment, the destruction of our industrial base and an explosion in food banks and poverty..you wouldnt be giving lectures out in running the economy wouldnt you? |
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"The party for the workers are now asking their own staff to take voluntary redundancy you couldnt make it up.  "
Maybe the union's will get involved to stop or water it down. If they asking for volunteers now it may lead to compulsory redundancies if they don't get enough volunteers. That would be a twist of fate |
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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago
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"You would think if you were responsibile for the highest ever levels of unemployment, the destruction of our industrial base and an explosion in food banks and poverty..you wouldnt be giving lectures out in running the economy wouldnt you?"
who,s done all that then?  |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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And the BEST title to a story yet . . . lmao
"Rayner defends voluntary redundancy plan as Labour launches workers’ charter".
Oh how does that work? - we charter you to redundancy.
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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But the real truth from the Party Deputy Says:
"The Labour List website reported last week that party reserves are down to one month’s worth of payroll, and said general secretary David Evans had told the National Executive Committee: “We don’t have any money.”
Asked about the situation, Ms Rayner said: “We are in the devastating circumstances where we have lost general elections and we have lost resources as a result of that, and our organisation has to change."
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"The party for the workers are now asking their own staff to take voluntary redundancy you couldnt make it up.
It’s down to COVID
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And tbf at least the people who work for labour are not getting subject to sexual harassment. |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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And let's be clear sexual harassment happens on a day-by-day basis in every walk of life. It's not owned by a party over anther . . . it's a despicable behaviour that ought to be called out for what it is . . . not as a political bat just to score points. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The party for the workers are now asking their own staff to take voluntary redundancy you couldnt make it up.
It’s down to COVID
And tbf at least the people who work for labour are not getting subject to sexual harassment. "
It’s definitely COVID, they weren’t asking for redundancies before the pandemic  |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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It’s definitely COVID, they weren’t asking for redundancies before the pandemic "
Wrong . . .
Asked about the situation, Ms Rayner said: “We are in the devastating circumstances where we have lost general elections and we have lost resources as a result of that, and our organisation has to change." |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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"Tbf if they focused on attacking that incompetent buffoon ,instead of pointless internal legal battles,they may not be so skint. Exactly just more incompetence from them how can we trust them with the countries priorities when they cant even get their own ones right? Totally unelectable."
How can we trust them with the Economy when they can't manage their own micro economy. Shocking management. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It’s definitely due to COVID, this pandemic is hitting everyone ,
Maybe starmer has been banging a 'business woman'and gave all their money away?
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Possibly, I still think it’s COVID, that seems to be the reason for most things these days |
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"It’s definitely due to COVID, this pandemic is hitting everyone ,
Maybe starmer has been banging a 'business woman'and gave all their money away?
Possibly, I still think it’s COVID, that seems to be the reason for most things these days "
Makes a change from the eu |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Taking about managing money, does anyone know what the current national debt is?
I'm not sure but I'd lay a wager its absolutely nothing to do with the gmnt."
Of course not, it’s down to COVID , obviously |
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/16/boris-johnson-accused-of-costing-taxpayers-1bn-on-london-mayor-projects
What's a billion between friends?
I'd still trust him to be prudent. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Taking about managing money, does anyone know what the current national debt is?
Hasn't alex been warned about his financial affairs?"
Possibly, but you have to remember that we are in the middle of a pandemic, |
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"Taking about managing money, does anyone know what the current national debt is?
Hasn't alex been warned about his financial affairs?
Possibly, but you have to remember that we are in the middle of a pandemic, "
Yep..it was definitely one of those numerous investigations..possibly the holiday one. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Taking about managing money, does anyone know what the current national debt is?
Hasn't alex been warned about his financial affairs?
Possibly, but you have to remember that we are in the middle of a pandemic,
Yep..it was definitely one of those numerous investigations..possibly the holiday one."
Shocking management |
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-nanny-flat-loan-b1840805.html%3famp
Or maybe this one
I'd definitely be reassured with someone like that running the nations finances |
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"https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-nanny-flat-loan-b1840805.html%3famp
Or maybe this one
I'd definitely be reassured with someone like that running the nations finances"
Again, shocking management |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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"Liam Byrne, chief secretary to the Treasury under Gordon Brown, left a note for his successor that proved to be a gift for the Conservatives"
"There is no money left".
History in circular motion.
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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"Crikey I thought this thread was about the Labour Party. 
Circle them wagons boys!!!! "
Some think that it's just the playground - sad, really. Others would like to talk about the OP. |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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"Crikey I thought this thread was about the Labour Party.
Circle them wagons boys!!!!
Ironic really given who is supplying the whataboutary after complaining about it on other threads"
Yup childish playground stuff  |
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"Crikey I thought this thread was about the Labour Party.
Circle them wagons boys!!!!
Ironic really given who is supplying the whataboutary after complaining about it on other threads"
Or maybe people think it's a bit rich to complain about other peoples financial management, when the teflon one,cant even finance his own child care/flat/holiday. |
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"Are there still rules about making personal jibes about people on the forum?
I think people should have a read up on them
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You tell me who has been personal Lionel and I will have a word with them for you. |
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"Crikey I thought this thread was about the Labour Party.
Circle them wagons boys!!!!
Ironic really given who is supplying the whataboutary after complaining about it on other threads
Or maybe people think it's a bit rich to complain about other peoples financial management, when the teflon one,cant even finance his own child care/flat/holiday."
Hope you remember that criteria next time you complain of others doing it |
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"Crikey I thought this thread was about the Labour Party.
Circle them wagons boys!!!!
Ironic really given who is supplying the whataboutary after complaining about it on other threads
Or maybe people think it's a bit rich to complain about other peoples financial management, when the teflon one,cant even finance his own child care/flat/holiday.
Hope you remember that criteria next time you complain of others doing it"
What of not financing their own flat? |
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So what’s happening here…
Labour make lots of employees redundant.
Labour rehire others with short term contracts, lower wages and lesser T&Cs.
Sounds like that very thing Labour were admonishing others for very recently - fire and rehire is the term???
Senior Labour MP is believed to have said “Sacking individuals and hiring others with worse wages, terms and conditions are the actions of the worst of the very worst employers.”
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"https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-nanny-flat-loan-b1840805.html%3famp
Or maybe this one
I'd definitely be reassured with someone like that running the nations finances
Again, shocking management "
the tag team are back how yas doing boys been for a nice stroll together lol |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
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"So what’s happening here…
Labour make lots of employees redundant.
Labour rehire others with short term contracts, lower wages and lesser T&Cs.
Sounds like that very thing Labour were admonishing others for very recently - fire and rehire is the term???
Senior Labour MP is believed to have said “Sacking individuals and hiring others with worse wages, terms and conditions are the actions of the worst of the very worst employers.”
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The Times reports millions spent on legal fees. 250 members a day leaving.
Their Annual Conference will be interesting! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-nanny-flat-loan-b1840805.html%3famp
Or maybe this one
I'd definitely be reassured with someone like that running the nations finances
Again, shocking management the tag team are back how yas doing boys been for a nice stroll together lol"
Pardon? |
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"So what’s happening here…
Labour make lots of employees redundant.
Labour rehire others with short term contracts, lower wages and lesser T&Cs.
Sounds like that very thing Labour were admonishing others for very recently - fire and rehire is the term???
Senior Labour MP is believed to have said “Sacking individuals and hiring others with worse wages, terms and conditions are the actions of the worst of the very worst employers.”
The Times reports millions spent on legal fees. 250 members a day leaving.
Their Annual Conference will be interesting! "
Labours loss our gain. Embrace the Green. |
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I think one of the main factors is membership is low. That's what's the in-fighting will do. Add that to the fact that Starmer has divided opinion and you have members walking away from the party in general. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So what’s happening here…
Labour make lots of employees redundant.
Labour rehire others with short term contracts, lower wages and lesser T&Cs.
Sounds like that very thing Labour were admonishing others for very recently - fire and rehire is the term???
Senior Labour MP is believed to have said “Sacking individuals and hiring others with worse wages, terms and conditions are the actions of the worst of the very worst employers.”
The Times reports millions spent on legal fees. 250 members a day leaving.
Their Annual Conference will be interesting!
Labours loss our gain. Embrace the Green. "
This is true, but the greens would never go into coalition with the Tories, they would with labour |
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I mean obviously at some point, someone will be along and provide the link between labour naking some staff redundant, and the economic workings of running an entire country.
And labours handling of the economy is a completely different topic,to the tories running the economy.
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"So what’s happening here…
Labour make lots of employees redundant.
Labour rehire others with short term contracts, lower wages and lesser T&Cs.
Sounds like that very thing Labour were admonishing others for very recently - fire and rehire is the term???
Senior Labour MP is believed to have said “Sacking individuals and hiring others with worse wages, terms and conditions are the actions of the worst of the very worst employers.”
The Times reports millions spent on legal fees. 250 members a day leaving.
Their Annual Conference will be interesting!
Labours loss our gain. Embrace the Green.
This is true, but the greens would never go into coalition with the Tories, they would with labour "
We keep picking up members we won’t need a coalition.  |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
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"So what’s happening here…
Labour make lots of employees redundant.
Labour rehire others with short term contracts, lower wages and lesser T&Cs.
Sounds like that very thing Labour were admonishing others for very recently - fire and rehire is the term???
Senior Labour MP is believed to have said “Sacking individuals and hiring others with worse wages, terms and conditions are the actions of the worst of the very worst employers.”
The Times reports millions spent on legal fees. 250 members a day leaving.
Their Annual Conference will be interesting!
Labours loss our gain. Embrace the Green.
This is true, but the greens would never go into coalition with the Tories, they would with labour
We keep picking up members we won’t need a coalition. "
The Greens are the obvious beneficaries of both Labour infighting and Conservative dissatisfaction.
Time for them to really go for it. Maybe this is their time. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So what’s happening here…
Labour make lots of employees redundant.
Labour rehire others with short term contracts, lower wages and lesser T&Cs.
Sounds like that very thing Labour were admonishing others for very recently - fire and rehire is the term???
Senior Labour MP is believed to have said “Sacking individuals and hiring others with worse wages, terms and conditions are the actions of the worst of the very worst employers.”
The Times reports millions spent on legal fees. 250 members a day leaving.
Their Annual Conference will be interesting!
Labours loss our gain. Embrace the Green.
This is true, but the greens would never go into coalition with the Tories, they would with labour
We keep picking up members we won’t need a coalition. "
I hope your right, but realistically you will need a partner to form a government and that won’t be the tories |
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"Crikey I thought this thread was about the Labour Party.
Circle them wagons boys!!!!
Ironic really given who is supplying the whataboutary after complaining about it on other threads
Or maybe people think it's a bit rich to complain about other peoples financial management, when the teflon one,cant even finance his own child care/flat/holiday.
Hope you remember that criteria next time you complain of others doing it
What of not financing their own flat?"
At least you acknowledge it was a whataboutery. Very confusing when I see you complain of others doing the same thing. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If only they got funded by dodgy Russian oligarchs and this wouldnt happen.
Yeah dodgy union leaders are so much better."
At least they are ‘our’ union leaders voted in by their members |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If only they got funded by dodgy Russian oligarchs and this wouldnt happen.
Yeah dodgy union leaders are so much better.
At least they are ‘our’ union leaders voted in by their members "
Just as the Tories are 'our' leaders, voted in by their constituents |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If only they got funded by dodgy Russian oligarchs and this wouldnt happen.
Yeah dodgy union leaders are so much better.
At least they are ‘our’ union leaders voted in by their members
Just as the Tories are 'our' leaders, voted in by their constituents "
Not by me, are you in a union? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If only they got funded by dodgy Russian oligarchs and this wouldnt happen.
Yeah dodgy union leaders are so much better.
At least they are ‘our’ union leaders voted in by their members
Just as the Tories are 'our' leaders, voted in by their constituents
Not by me, are you in a union? "
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"So what’s happening here…
Labour make lots of employees redundant.
Labour rehire others with short term contracts, lower wages and lesser T&Cs.
Sounds like that very thing Labour were admonishing others for very recently - fire and rehire is the term???
Senior Labour MP is believed to have said “Sacking individuals and hiring others with worse wages, terms and conditions are the actions of the worst of the very worst employers.”
The Times reports millions spent on legal fees. 250 members a day leaving.
Their Annual Conference will be interesting!
Labours loss our gain. Embrace the Green.
This is true, but the greens would never go into coalition with the Tories, they would with labour
We keep picking up members we won’t need a coalition.
I hope your right, but realistically you will need a partner to form a government and that won’t be the tories "
Tories are much more likely to be drawn towards a brexit type party evidenced by that continuing existence of that toad,Farage. |
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"If only they got funded by dodgy Russian oligarchs and this wouldnt happen.
Yeah dodgy union leaders are so much better."
So you prefer someone who goes round poisoning its political opponents than some ind working to better your working conditions.
Well it's an interesting take.
Funny that's it was labour who was given the Russian spy tag but at least you knowledge it's more like to be alecski
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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The quotes above are directly from Rayner's mouth . . .
Again . . . the Party Deputy (Angela Rayner Said:
Asked about the situation, Ms Rayner said: “We are in the devastating circumstances where we have lost general elections and we have lost resources as a result of that, and our organisation has to change."
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The quotes above are directly from Rayner's mouth . . .
Again . . . the Party Deputy (Angela Rayner Said:
Asked about the situation, Ms Rayner said: “We are in the devastating circumstances where we have lost general elections and we have lost resources as a result of that, and our organisation has to change."
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She hasn't fired and rehired yet to my knowledge |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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"The quotes above are directly from Rayner's mouth . . .
Again . . . the Party Deputy (Angela Rayner Said:
Asked about the situation, Ms Rayner said: “We are in the devastating circumstances where we have lost general elections and we have lost resources as a result of that, and our organisation has to change."
She hasn't fired and rehired yet to my knowledge "
Yea but, no but, yea but lol.
It does read in that vein. |
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"The quotes above are directly from Rayner's mouth . . .
Again . . . the Party Deputy (Angela Rayner Said:
Asked about the situation, Ms Rayner said: “We are in the devastating circumstances where we have lost general elections and we have lost resources as a result of that, and our organisation has to change."
She hasn't fired and rehired yet to my knowledge
Yea but, no but, yea but lol.
It does read in that vein. "
No it doesn't. Let's see how it pans out. |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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"The quotes above are directly from Rayner's mouth . . .
Again . . . the Party Deputy (Angela Rayner Said:
Asked about the situation, Ms Rayner said: “We are in the devastating circumstances where we have lost general elections and we have lost resources as a result of that, and our organisation has to change."
She hasn't fired and rehired yet to my knowledge
Yea but, no but, yea but lol.
It does read in that vein.
No it doesn't. Let's see how it pans out. "
Yes it does. If they make them redundant because they have no money because of their own inadequate handling of economics of their own party then at a later stage they rehire then that's the same behaviour as she was calling out.
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"The quotes above are directly from Rayner's mouth . . .
Again . . . the Party Deputy (Angela Rayner Said:
Asked about the situation, Ms Rayner said: “We are in the devastating circumstances where we have lost general elections and we have lost resources as a result of that, and our organisation has to change."
She hasn't fired and rehired yet to my knowledge
Yea but, no but, yea but lol.
It does read in that vein.
No it doesn't. Let's see how it pans out.
Yes it does. If they make them redundant because they have no money because of their own inadequate handling of economics of their own party then at a later stage they rehire then that's the same behaviour as she was calling out.
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The support base from unite is causing the problem.
Your also judging them something they haven't done yet! They say fire & re-hire won't happen, let's just wait & see shall we? |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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"The quotes above are directly from Rayner's mouth . . .
Again . . . the Party Deputy (Angela Rayner Said:
Asked about the situation, Ms Rayner said: “We are in the devastating circumstances where we have lost general elections and we have lost resources as a result of that, and our organisation has to change."
She hasn't fired and rehired yet to my knowledge
Yea but, no but, yea but lol.
It does read in that vein.
No it doesn't. Let's see how it pans out.
Yes it does. If they make them redundant because they have no money because of their own inadequate handling of economics of their own party then at a later stage they rehire then that's the same behaviour as she was calling out.
The support base from unite is causing the problem.
Your also judging them something they haven't done yet! They say fire & re-hire won't happen, let's just wait & see shall we? "
The secretary said they have less than one month of payroll left. |
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I can't see them doing a fire and 're hire after ever thing they have said. It would loose them any credibility left. The big companies especially will watch closely taking notes for next time they need to scale back and get so called advice from Labour/ unions |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
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"I can't see them doing a fire and 're hire after ever thing they have said. It would loose them any credibility left. The big companies especially will watch closely taking notes for next time they need to scale back and get so called advice from Labour/ unions"
The problem with that approach is that if they have no money, 'literally' and they have to fire and when they get money again they will need to 'hire' - If they don't 'rehire' those they let go to redundancy, that's almost the same sticky situation. Not a very good position to be in from either direction. |
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"I can't see them doing a fire and 're hire after ever thing they have said. It would loose them any credibility left. The big companies especially will watch closely taking notes for next time they need to scale back and get so called advice from Labour/ unions
The problem with that approach is that if they have no money, 'literally' and they have to fire and when they get money again they will need to 'hire' - If they don't 'rehire' those they let go to redundancy, that's almost the same sticky situation. Not a very good position to be in from either direction."
That's true enough. I think when they do eventually 're hire it will have to be on at least the same pay and conditions (allowing for inflation of course) as the redundant jobs. If not it will look like they are doing what they accuse struggling businesses of doing |
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