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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

By about 4 billion or 0.2% of GDP I think. Until the country is back on its feet.

For and against?

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By *entleman_spyMan over a year ago

nearby

For

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By *oxychick35Couple over a year ago

thornaby

For

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By *wisted999Man over a year ago

North Bucks

Can see the sense in it.

Reluctant for.

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By *estivalMan over a year ago

borehamwood

For.sort ourselves first then others when we in better shape

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By *riendly older leggy wifeCouple over a year ago

london

For,

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By *obka3Couple over a year ago

bournemouth

For until economy settles then spend it better instead of into warlords pockets

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Youre all obviously Tory voters

For, for now

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By *kstallionMan over a year ago

milton keynes

"By about 4 billion or 0.2% of GDP I think. Until the country is back on its feet.

For and against?"

For and just to add something else maybe an international level of GDP agreed by all those that contribute. Bit like how they in principle have agreed to a minimum level of corporation tax

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

Bookmarks thread for the next time the brexiteers blow a fuse for when they think the EU has broken a promise or gone back on their word.

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By *wisted999Man over a year ago

North Bucks

"Bookmarks thread for the next time the brexiteers blow a fuse for when they think the EU has broken a promise or gone back on their word."

Why have you got so much vitriol in your heart to do something as silly as this. Come on mate chill a bit.

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Bookmarks thread for the next time the brexiteers blow a fuse for when they think the EU has broken a promise or gone back on their word.

Why have you got so much vitriol in your heart to do something as silly as this. Come on mate chill a bit. "

What vitriol?

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By *wisted999Man over a year ago

North Bucks

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By *wisted999Man over a year ago

North Bucks

"Bookmarks thread for the next time the brexiteers blow a fuse for when they think the EU has broken a promise or gone back on their word.

Why have you got so much vitriol in your heart to do something as silly as this. Come on mate chill a bit.

What vitriol?

It’s just a bit weirdly obsessive that you would want to bookmark stuff to use against fellow posters on what’s meant to be a fun site in the future. It’s not healthy mate come on.

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"[Removed by poster at 13/07/21 23:02:53]"

It was a tongue in cheek remark that obviously flew over your head.

Personally I dont think it sets a good example in international diplomacy to go back on your word but I'm ckearly in the minority

I'm sure it womt damage our tep in the long run.

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By *irtylittletramp100TV/TS over a year ago

Notts

Anyone who wants to send money to any country they want has my blessing lol they can make up the short fall that those mean British won't send. Problem solved.

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By *wisted999Man over a year ago

North Bucks

"[Removed by poster at 13/07/21 23:02:53]

It was a tongue in cheek remark that obviously flew over your head.

Personally I dont think it sets a good example in international diplomacy to go back on your word but I'm ckearly in the minority

I'm sure it womt damage our tep in the long run."

Wasn’t funny.

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"[Removed by poster at 13/07/21 23:02:53]

It was a tongue in cheek remark that obviously flew over your head.

Personally I dont think it sets a good example in international diplomacy to go back on your word but I'm ckearly in the minority

I'm sure it womt damage our tep in the long run.

Wasn’t funny. "

Right ok

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By *oxychick35Couple over a year ago

thornaby

"[Removed by poster at 13/07/21 23:02:53]

It was a tongue in cheek remark that obviously flew over your head.

Personally I dont think it sets a good example in international diplomacy to go back on your word but I'm ckearly in the minority

I'm sure it womt damage our tep in the long run.

Wasn’t funny.

Right ok

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so are you for or against ?

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"[Removed by poster at 13/07/21 23:02:53]

It was a tongue in cheek remark that obviously flew over your head.

Personally I dont think it sets a good example in international diplomacy to go back on your word but I'm ckearly in the minority

I'm sure it womt damage our tep in the long run.

Wasn’t funny.

Right ok

so are you for or against ?"

Against obvs.

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By *oxychick35Couple over a year ago

thornaby

"[Removed by poster at 13/07/21 23:02:53]

It was a tongue in cheek remark that obviously flew over your head.

Personally I dont think it sets a good example in international diplomacy to go back on your word but I'm ckearly in the minority

I'm sure it womt damage our tep in the long run.

Wasn’t funny.

Right ok

so are you for or against ?

Against obvs."
obvs lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Definitely for

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By *oxychick35Couple over a year ago

thornaby

Not many against then?

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Not many against then?"

Nope the majority quite happy for us to break our word

Good times.

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By *eanoCoolMan over a year ago

wisbech

For, this country now has a monumental amount of debt to be paid back and its not fair to borrow more for foreign aid that our children will be expected to pay back. Would rather that 0.2% be spent on our NHS or social care personally.

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"For, this country now has a monumental amount of debt to be paid back and its not fair to borrow more for foreign aid that our children will be expected to pay back. Would rather that 0.2% be spent on our NHS or social care personally. "

Well Alex has said the money will be spent on the NHS and I for 1 believe him.

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By *adetMan over a year ago

South of Ipswich

On the OECD list of 30 countries the UK is 5th from top, donating 0.7 percent of our GNI as was agreed. 25 other other countries around the world do not even come close to what they promised

Also there is a clause stating that countries can reduce their percentage in times of 'serious financial downturn'

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By *eanoCoolMan over a year ago

wisbech

Well Alex has said the money will be spent on the NHS and I for 1 believe him."

You lost me, who is Alex? I thought Sajid javid was health Secretary?

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

We can afford a national yacht, that no one wants or needs whilst cutting off help to some of the most destitute people in the world

Guess who?

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

I'm sure at the climate talks in Glasgow johnson will be in the perfect person to hold other countries to their word.

Win win.

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

Well Alex has said the money will be spent on the NHS and I for 1 believe him.

You lost me, who is Alex? I thought Sajid javid was health Secretary?"
Not like Angela Rayner the deputy labour leader she thought it was sadiq javid.

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By *eanoCoolMan over a year ago

wisbech

"We can afford a national yacht, that no one wants or needs whilst cutting off help to some of the most destitute people in the world

Guess who?"

No bloody idea to be honest mate, sorry, as regards the yacht or whatever you want to call it personally I dont see how we can afford that either, there are many destitute people in this country who could do with the cash aswell just the same as those abroad.

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"We can afford a national yacht, that no one wants or needs whilst cutting off help to some of the most destitute people in the world

Guess who?

And you genuinly think that money will go to destitute people here?

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By *oxychick35Couple over a year ago

thornaby

"We can afford a national yacht, that no one wants or needs whilst cutting off help to some of the most destitute people in the world

Guess who?

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"We can afford a national yacht, that no one wants or needs whilst cutting off help to some of the most destitute people in the world

Guess who?

Can I ask you a question

Is there anything the Tories have ever done, that you have actually disagreed with?

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By *oxychick35Couple over a year ago

thornaby

"We can afford a national yacht, that no one wants or needs whilst cutting off help to some of the most destitute people in the world

Guess who?

And you genuinly think that money will go to destitute people here?"
amd you genuinely think that money will go to destitute people abroad?

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By *oxychick35Couple over a year ago

thornaby

"We can afford a national yacht, that no one wants or needs whilst cutting off help to some of the most destitute people in the world

Guess who?

Can I ask you a question

Is there anything the Tories have ever done, that you have actually disagreed with?"
covid the whole taking the knee shit

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"We can afford a national yacht, that no one wants or needs whilst cutting off help to some of the most destitute people in the world

Guess who?

And you genuinly think that money will go to destitute people here? amd you genuinely think that money will go to destitute people abroad?"

Well the chief executive of red cross says it will but presumably you have evidence to the contrary,?

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"We can afford a national yacht, that no one wants or needs whilst cutting off help to some of the most destitute people in the world

Guess who?

Can I ask you a question

Is there anything the Tories have ever done, that you have actually disagreed with? covid the whole taking the knee shit "

I've never seen you once criticise the gmnt over covid

And you have made no mention over taking the knee apart from defending priti patel.

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By *oxychick35Couple over a year ago

thornaby

"We can afford a national yacht, that no one wants or needs whilst cutting off help to some of the most destitute people in the world

Guess who?

And you genuinly think that money will go to destitute people here? amd you genuinely think that money will go to destitute people abroad?

Well the chief executive of red cross says it will but presumably you have evidence to the contrary,?"
does he have evidence it won’t go to warlords and corrupt politicians Lionel

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By *oxychick35Couple over a year ago

thornaby

"We can afford a national yacht, that no one wants or needs whilst cutting off help to some of the most destitute people in the world

Guess who?

Can I ask you a question

Is there anything the Tories have ever done, that you have actually disagreed with? covid the whole taking the knee shit

I've never seen you once criticise the gmnt over covid

And you have made no mention over taking the knee apart from defending priti patel.

"
ffs ov said loads of times we where too slow with the boarders and we should of locked down sooner and what have I said about Patel apart from shes worth a go ?

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By *eanoCoolMan over a year ago

wisbech

"We can afford a national yacht, that no one wants or needs whilst cutting off help to some of the most destitute people in the world

Guess who?

And you genuinly think that money will go to destitute people here?"

Well i would hope so but who knows, but it definitely won't be if its sent abroad thats for sure. Also is there any guarantee that if it was sent it would reach those who need it? Always amazes me that in these countries that are so poor there are always plenty of guns about, so personally I believe some of what is sent as aid ends up in the wrong pocket, probably just like it does here. Who is Alex you never said?

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"We can afford a national yacht, that no one wants or needs whilst cutting off help to some of the most destitute people in the world

Guess who?

And you genuinly think that money will go to destitute people here? amd you genuinely think that money will go to destitute people abroad?

Well the chief executive of red cross says it will but presumably you have evidence to the contrary,?does he have evidence it won’t go to warlords and corrupt politicians Lionel "

Ive just told what he had said.

Considering he is the head of red cross I'd imagine he has a pretty good idea where it goes.

But like I said.. you must have evidence to suggest otherwise.

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"We can afford a national yacht, that no one wants or needs whilst cutting off help to some of the most destitute people in the world

Guess who?

And you genuinly think that money will go to destitute people here?

Johnson

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"We can afford a national yacht, that no one wants or needs whilst cutting off help to some of the most destitute people in the world

Guess who?

Can I ask you a question

Is there anything the Tories have ever done, that you have actually disagreed with? covid the whole taking the knee shit

I've never seen you once criticise the gmnt over covid

And you have made no mention over taking the knee apart from defending priti patel.

ffs ov said loads of times we where too slow with the boarders and we should of locked down sooner and what have I said about Patel apart from shes worth a go ?"

You defended her immigration policy yesterday.

You consistently say they are as bad as one another but I've genuinly never seen you 1 say 1 positive thing about labour.

With friends like that eh?

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By *oxychick35Couple over a year ago

thornaby

"We can afford a national yacht, that no one wants or needs whilst cutting off help to some of the most destitute people in the world

Guess who?

And you genuinly think that money will go to destitute people here? amd you genuinely think that money will go to destitute people abroad?

Well the chief executive of red cross says it will but presumably you have evidence to the contrary,?does he have evidence it won’t go to warlords and corrupt politicians Lionel

Ive just told what he had said.

Considering he is the head of red cross I'd imagine he has a pretty good idea where it goes.

But like I said.. you must have evidence to suggest otherwise."
aw ok so none of the money goes to the wrong people then none of the food goes to armys none of the money to politicians and warlords well thank fuck for that lol

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By *eanoCoolMan over a year ago

wisbech

"We can afford a national yacht, that no one wants or needs whilst cutting off help to some of the most destitute people in the world

Guess who?

And you genuinly think that money will go to destitute people here?

Johnson "

Ok, still no idea why you are calling BJ Alex but never mind, guess its some joke or something that I don't get lol

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"We can afford a national yacht, that no one wants or needs whilst cutting off help to some of the most destitute people in the world

Guess who?

And you genuinly think that money will go to destitute people here? amd you genuinely think that money will go to destitute people abroad?

Well the chief executive of red cross says it will but presumably you have evidence to the contrary,?does he have evidence it won’t go to warlords and corrupt politicians Lionel

Ive just told what he had said.

Considering he is the head of red cross I'd imagine he has a pretty good idea where it goes.

But like I said.. you must have evidence to suggest otherwise.aw ok so none of the money goes to the wrong people then none of the food goes to armys none of the money to politicians and warlords well thank fuck for that lol"

Is it worth even repeating the words come from someone who actually works for the charity

Prob not

You are clearly more well informed than the head of an international charity

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"We can afford a national yacht, that no one wants or needs whilst cutting off help to some of the most destitute people in the world

Guess who?

And you genuinly think that money will go to destitute people here?

Johnson

Ok, still no idea why you are calling BJ Alex but never mind, guess its some joke or something that I don't get lol"

It's his 1st name

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By *oxychick35Couple over a year ago

thornaby

"We can afford a national yacht, that no one wants or needs whilst cutting off help to some of the most destitute people in the world

Guess who?

Can I ask you a question

Is there anything the Tories have ever done, that you have actually disagreed with? covid the whole taking the knee shit

I've never seen you once criticise the gmnt over covid

And you have made no mention over taking the knee apart from defending priti patel.

ffs ov said loads of times we where too slow with the boarders and we should of locked down sooner and what have I said about Patel apart from shes worth a go ?

You defended her immigration policy yesterday.

You consistently say they are as bad as one another but I've genuinly never seen you 1 say 1 positive thing about labour.

With friends like that eh?"
haha you said the governments immigration policy was racost I said how was it get a grip Lionel and what can I possibly say that is positive about labour there in a total mess I was gutted when starter became leader because i knew he wouldn’t reunite the norther voters nandy or burnham would of tho can you give me some positives then pls ?

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By *eanoCoolMan over a year ago

wisbech

"We can afford a national yacht, that no one wants or needs whilst cutting off help to some of the most destitute people in the world

Guess who?

And you genuinly think that money will go to destitute people here?

Johnson

Ok, still no idea why you are calling BJ Alex but never mind, guess its some joke or something that I don't get lol

It's his 1st name"

Oh, never knew that, you learn something new every day as they say.

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By *ushtakerMan over a year ago

Preston

"We can afford a national yacht, that no one wants or needs whilst cutting off help to some of the most destitute people in the world

Guess who?

And you genuinly think that money will go to destitute people here? amd you genuinely think that money will go to destitute people abroad?

Well the chief executive of red cross says it will but presumably you have evidence to the contrary,?does he have evidence it won’t go to warlords and corrupt politicians Lionel

Ive just told what he had said.

Considering he is the head of red cross I'd imagine he has a pretty good idea where it goes.

Is it worth even repeating the words come from someone who actually works for the charity

Prob not

You are clearly more well informed than the head of an international charity

I think this statement sum it up “ works for a charity “

Takes money from the charity

Like charity shop managers 15,000 a year expect everyone else to volunteer

Not allowed to change light bulbs in shop need electricians at £60 per hr to do it

Shop next to me I tried to rent wouldn’t allow as wanted a charity shop

They spent over £100,00 raising the floor so it was level totally unnecessary but hay charity pays

None of the money goes anywhere it’s not needed though

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Funny how the government let the big business off with hufe tax breaks then while hit the world's poor, hit pensioners with TV licence, "promises" the tory trough brigade went back on.

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"We can afford a national yacht, that no one wants or needs whilst cutting off help to some of the most destitute people in the world

Guess who?

Can I ask you a question

Is there anything the Tories have ever done, that you have actually disagreed with? covid the whole taking the knee shit

I've never seen you once criticise the gmnt over covid

And you have made no mention over taking the knee apart from defending priti patel.

ffs ov said loads of times we where too slow with the boarders and we should of locked down sooner and what have I said about Patel apart from shes worth a go ?

You defended her immigration policy yesterday.

You consistently say they are as bad as one another but I've genuinly never seen you 1 say 1 positive thing about labour.

With friends like that eh?haha you said the governments immigration policy was racost I said how was it get a grip Lionel and what can I possibly say that is positive about labour there in a total mess I was gutted when starter became leader because i knew he wouldn’t reunite the norther voters nandy or burnham would of tho can you give me some positives then pls ?"

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Funny how the government let the big business off with hufe tax breaks then while hit the world's poor, hit pensioners with TV licence, "promises" the tory trough brigade went back on. "

What's your opinion on it?

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

"Funny how the government let the big business off with hufe tax breaks then while hit the world's poor, hit pensioners with TV licence, "promises" the tory trough brigade went back on.

What's your opinion on it?"

My opinion is this Lionel ...

Shooosh !

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By *irtylittletramp100TV/TS over a year ago

Notts

I don't know why Boris doesn't borrow lionels money tree lol

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

"I don't know why Boris doesn't borrow lionels money tree lol "
him and corbyn are keeping that to themselves.

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By *al2001Man over a year ago

kildare

Does that include cutting foriegn aid to past colonies you exploited and plundered?

More like giving money back

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"I don't know why Boris doesn't borrow lionels money tree lol "

Epic

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

Can we start a collectin for everytime time Corbyn is mentioned in a thread?

All proceeds to a good cause.

We could prob solve world hunger in a week.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

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By *obka3Couple over a year ago

bournemouth

"Can we start a collectin for everytime time Corbyn is mentioned in a thread?

All proceeds to a good cause.

We could prob solve world hunger in a week."

If we had a collection every time you didnt answer a direct question we could do it in half the time.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

Lionel has never answered a question.. he is question averse

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Lionel has never answered a question.. he is question averse "

I've just got certain people on ignore thomas.

The fact that I never respond to their posts obviously flies over their head.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

"Lionel has never answered a question.. he is question averse

I've just got certain people on ignore thomas.

The fact that I never respond to their posts obviously flies over their head."

Just for once Lionel ..

And I am thinking of everyone's mental health..

SHOOSH...!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

For but with the exception that the government literally pisses money away in other areas I can't help feel that they should address that? This seems like a quick fix, fair enough. But would appreciate it if the government spend our taxmoney more wisely in general.

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By *obka3Couple over a year ago

bournemouth

"Lionel has never answered a question.. he is question averse

I've just got certain people on ignore thomas.

The fact that I never respond to their posts obviously flies over their head."

And yet you do respond until get get cornered

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By *ackal1Couple over a year ago

Manchester

Given that it was a percentage and reduced with our GDP a cut was not needed.

Maybe ask the non tax paying residence to cough a little or perhaps super tax the PPE profits oh no they all pay for the governments holidays and provide directorships!! We don’t want to upset them let’s take some more money off the aid budget which helps the ones who really struggle .

Not measured poverty, real no food at all poverty .

Claims we are the most generous answered here.

Several countries have exceeded the U.N. aid target including Denmark (0.73%), Luxembourg (1.02%), Norway (1.11%) and Sweden (1.14%), according to 2020 data by the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD).

Corruption I hear .. it’s estimated 5% is lost through corruption considerably less than the amount lost to favoured PPE contractors in excess payments.

The biggest benefactor of aid from the U.K. is Pakistan. Yes a country that has nuclear weapons and harbours extremists . But it’s spent of women’s aid and education so is it a bad thing??

The thing is the less money and aid these desperate countries receive means an increase in refugees . It’s a damn site cheaper to pay for food in the Yemen than housing social care etc etc in the Uk. So in fact it’s false economy when you work it out!

Global Britain hmmm,,,, I’m alright Jack and fuck you! What goes around etc China will be picking up the slack . So much for our soft power ambitions .

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Given that it was a percentage and reduced with our GDP a cut was not needed.

Not measured poverty, real no food at all poverty .

Claims we are the most generous answered here.

Corruption I hear .. it’s estimated 5% is lost through corruption considerably less than the amount lost to favoured PPE contractors in excess payments.

The biggest benefactor of aid from the U.K. is Pakistan. Yes a country that has nuclear weapons and harbours extremists . But it’s spent of women’s aid and education so is it a bad thing??

Global Britain hmmm,,,, I’m alright Jack and fuck you! What goes around etc China will be picking up the slack . So much for our soft power ambitions .

I'm sure foxy will be along in a min to deconstruct your argument.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

Foreign aid..is corbyn a racist

That's some venn diagram that

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

Shoosh Lionel

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By *obka3Couple over a year ago

bournemouth

"Foreign aid..is corbyn a racist

That's some venn diagram that "

Yep no answer wow shocked I tell you

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

How long does it take for someone to realise they are on ignore?

Asking for a friend

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

"How long does it take for someone to realise they are on ignore?

Asking for a friend

Stop ignoring me Lionel

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By *eroy1000Man over a year ago

milton keynes

"Given that it was a percentage and reduced with our GDP a cut was not needed.

Not measured poverty, real no food at all poverty .

Claims we are the most generous answered here.

Corruption I hear .. it’s estimated 5% is lost through corruption considerably less than the amount lost to favoured PPE contractors in excess payments.

The biggest benefactor of aid from the U.K. is Pakistan. Yes a country that has nuclear weapons and harbours extremists . But it’s spent of women’s aid and education so is it a bad thing??

Global Britain hmmm,,,, I’m alright Jack and fuck you! What goes around etc China will be picking up the slack . So much for our soft power ambitions .

Some are not so good like France, japan, Canada, Italy and the U.S.. that's just the small list on a chart. Even with the cut we will still be only fractionally lower than France and way ahead of the others

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By *asyukMan over a year ago

West London

"By about 4 billion or 0.2% of GDP I think. Until the country is back on its feet.

For and against?"

Against.

We will ultimately benefit from the rest of the world being better educated, healthier and more stable.

If we pay a higher proportion than other countries to achieve this then so be it.

Do more good. If it's not bing spent properly, then do better, don't give up like losers.

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By *ackal1Couple over a year ago

Manchester

"Given that it was a percentage and reduced with our GDP a cut was not needed.

Not measured poverty, real no food at all poverty .

Claims we are the most generous answered here.

Corruption I hear .. it’s estimated 5% is lost through corruption considerably less than the amount lost to favoured PPE contractors in excess payments.

The biggest benefactor of aid from the U.K. is Pakistan. Yes a country that has nuclear weapons and harbours extremists . But it’s spent of women’s aid and education so is it a bad thing??

Global Britain hmmm,,,, I’m alright Jack and fuck you! What goes around etc China will be picking up the slack . So much for our soft power ambitions .

Absolutely agree with your comments on done pay less.. And?

Is your argument for cuts is well those over there are!!

Ok then let’s look at pensions in other countries snd we can match other on those too then!

Either you agree with foreign aid or you don’t and to cut the percentage is mean spirited by an incompetent short sighted government.

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By *adetMan over a year ago

South of Ipswich

In a perfect world I cant imagine anybody being against donating

But n reality I'd rather use the money on health, education and food in this country before sending our taxes to countries that have their own space and nuclear programs

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Against. How many of us are willing to donate to the poppy fund, children in need, comic relief? We should be proud to help other nations. The tories are willing to opt out of the European clampdown on corporate tax, UK corp tax is already amongst the lowest in Europe, and they want to tax the huge companies even less. When are we supposed to be wealthy enough to spare money to donate? No time line laid out, but they have been willing to spaff billions to friends companies, that have failed to deliver during the pandemic.

Little Britain

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By *adetMan over a year ago

South of Ipswich

"Against. How many of us are willing to donate to the poppy fund, children in need, comic relief? We should be proud to help other nations. The tories are willing to opt out of the European clampdown on corporate tax, UK corp tax is already amongst the lowest in Europe, and they want to tax the huge companies even less. When are we supposed to be wealthy enough to spare money to donate? No time line laid out, but they have been willing to spaff billions to friends companies, that have failed to deliver during the pandemic.

Little Britain"

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?

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By *ackal1Couple over a year ago

Manchester

Little Britain

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?"

Why not tax the PPE profits and end the tax free haven status of so many people who donate to political parties . I’m sure that fact is just coincidental .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Little Britain

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?"

Why should a country that's in debt give money away? Charity starts at home

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By *adetMan over a year ago

South of Ipswich

Little Britain

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?

Why not tax the PPE profits and end the tax free haven status of so many people who donate to political parties . I’m sure that fact is just coincidental . "

That's a whole other issue and I don't disagree with you

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

We are botrowing money on interest to give away..

Great housekeeping

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By *hetalkingstoveMan over a year ago

London

Against. We're a rich country and can afford to help others.

We waste far more money on all sorts of things, and people don't get upset because it doesn't involve foreigners.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Little Britain

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?"

Read my post. If tge government taxed corpoearions properly they would have cash, but wait tories sit on corporate boards, no conflict there

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Little Britain

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?

Why should a country that's in debt give money away? Charity starts at home"

Like I said "little britain" full of selfservatives

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

To sum up: our very "not racist" government have taken a policy decision that will cost the lives of many people of different races.

And they did this in the midst of a rising storm about racism.

And they defended the decision on the grounds of "ooh but we haven't got the money." After they gave countless millions to mates. And after they said they werer gonna spend 200 million quid on a yacht.

It's not a great look, is it?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Little Britain

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?"

Yeah, we should let our government spend the money instead on feeding poor, hungry kids in our own country...

Oh...

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By *andy 1Couple over a year ago

northeast

"We can afford a national yacht, that no one wants or needs whilst cutting off help to some of the most destitute people in the world

Guess who?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

For.

Most of the money we give is for political/spying reasons and doesn’t help any of the needy citizens of those countries - it usually goes straight to a Swiss bank account or on weapons or the space race.

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By *oxychick35Couple over a year ago

thornaby

"We can afford a national yacht, that no one wants or needs whilst cutting off help to some of the most destitute people in the world

Guess who?

Can I ask you a question

Is there anything the Tories have ever done, that you have actually disagreed with? covid the whole taking the knee shit

I've never seen you once criticise the gmnt over covid

And you have made no mention over taking the knee apart from defending priti patel.

ffs ov said loads of times we where too slow with the boarders and we should of locked down sooner and what have I said about Patel apart from shes worth a go ?

You defended her immigration policy yesterday.

You consistently say they are as bad as one another but I've genuinly never seen you 1 say 1 positive thing about labour.

You havemt said 1 positive thing about labour since I've been on here..but wax lyrical about brexit,consistently side with the knitting circle and slate anyone who thinks Brexit isnt a fairly tale..at least be honest about it."
wtf could I possibly say that is positive about labour right now Lionel ? They arnt even close to getting anywhere near to getting in power with starmer and you know it and iv always said I voted for brexit and when do I slate ppl who voted remain ? Stop talking out your arse just because your been made a fool of on here mate

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By *oxychick35Couple over a year ago

thornaby

"Given that it was a percentage and reduced with our GDP a cut was not needed.

Not measured poverty, real no food at all poverty .

Claims we are the most generous answered here.

Corruption I hear .. it’s estimated 5% is lost through corruption considerably less than the amount lost to favoured PPE contractors in excess payments.

The biggest benefactor of aid from the U.K. is Pakistan. Yes a country that has nuclear weapons and harbours extremists . But it’s spent of women’s aid and education so is it a bad thing??

Global Britain hmmm,,,, I’m alright Jack and fuck you! What goes around etc China will be picking up the slack . So much for our soft power ambitions .

"
how about Pakistani stop spending money on nuclear weapons and spends it on women’s aid jackal or is that too unreasonable is it the uk fault againnnn

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By *ackal1Couple over a year ago

Manchester

"Given that it was a percentage and reduced with our GDP a cut was not needed.

Not measured poverty, real no food at all poverty .

Claims we are the most generous answered here.

Corruption I hear .. it’s estimated 5% is lost through corruption considerably less than the amount lost to favoured PPE contractors in excess payments.

The biggest benefactor of aid from the U.K. is Pakistan. Yes a country that has nuclear weapons and harbours extremists . But it’s spent of women’s aid and education so is it a bad thing??

Global Britain hmmm,,,, I’m alright Jack and fuck you! What goes around etc China will be picking up the slack . So much for our soft power ambitions .

how about Pakistani stop spending money on nuclear weapons and spends it on women’s aid jackal or is that too unreasonable is it the uk fault againnnn"

You missed the bit about education !!

The intrinsic issue over honour killings etc etc

We should ignore ok that’s fine then.

And no comment on tax avoidance or PPE

Just because a country behaves in a stupid way like Pakistan on weapons which they hopefully will never use . We are equally stupid losing billions over Brexit and people still deal with us.

Those similar facts are no reason for us helping to stop a country with such lethal weapons descending into another Afghanistan.

Remember Pakistan are one of the biggest immigrant populations into the U.K. . Let’s make sure they are all extremists and let’s do a good job of importing said ill educated terrorists . 1000 of the 20k ISIS army were directly from the Uk.

Aid isn’t just a bag of flour.

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By *L RogueMan over a year ago

London

Little Britain

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?

Yeah, we should let our government spend the money instead on feeding poor, hungry kids in our own country...

Oh...

My thoughts exactly.

We've seen a lot of bad public spending over the last 12 months and NOW we want to talk about "our own?"

Wow...

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By *adetMan over a year ago

South of Ipswich

Little Britain

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?

Yeah, we should let our government spend the money instead on feeding poor, hungry kids in our own country...

Oh...

My thoughts exactly.

We've seen a lot of bad public spending over the last 12 months and NOW we want to talk about "our own?"

Wow..."

But why would you want to make it potentially even worse for poor kids here by sending billions abroad?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Little Britain

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?

Yeah, we should let our government spend the money instead on feeding poor, hungry kids in our own country...

Oh...

My thoughts exactly.

We've seen a lot of bad public spending over the last 12 months and NOW we want to talk about "our own?"

Wow..."

So we should have more bad public spending because we've had a lot of bad public spending?

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By *L RogueMan over a year ago

London

Little Britain

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?

Yeah, we should let our government spend the money instead on feeding poor, hungry kids in our own country...

Oh...

My thoughts exactly.

We've seen a lot of bad public spending over the last 12 months and NOW we want to talk about "our own?"

Wow...

But why would you want to make it potentially even worse for poor kids here by sending billions abroad?"

Because it's already worse...and now it'll be worse elsewhere too.

The money was never the issue, it's how they chose to spend it. Loads of sweetheart deals for mates and job roles for Officials' bit on the side but nothing for hungry children: foreign or domestic. If they had spent wisely and honestly then there would be no reason to cut foreign aid.

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By *L RogueMan over a year ago

London

Little Britain

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?

Yeah, we should let our government spend the money instead on feeding poor, hungry kids in our own country...

Oh...

My thoughts exactly.

We've seen a lot of bad public spending over the last 12 months and NOW we want to talk about "our own?"

Wow...

So we should have more bad public spending because we've had a lot of bad public spending? "

Is foreign aid bad spending?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Little Britain

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?

Yeah, we should let our government spend the money instead on feeding poor, hungry kids in our own country...

Oh...

My thoughts exactly.

We've seen a lot of bad public spending over the last 12 months and NOW we want to talk about "our own?"

Wow...

But why would you want to make it potentially even worse for poor kids here by sending billions abroad?

Because it's already worse...and now it'll be worse elsewhere too.

If other nations can't feed their children perhaps they should have less? Britain has its own people on the streets that need helping before anyone else

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By *adetMan over a year ago

South of Ipswich

Little Britain

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?

Yeah, we should let our government spend the money instead on feeding poor, hungry kids in our own country...

Oh...

My thoughts exactly.

We've seen a lot of bad public spending over the last 12 months and NOW we want to talk about "our own?"

Wow...

But why would you want to make it potentially even worse for poor kids here by sending billions abroad?

Because it's already worse...and now it'll be worse elsewhere too.

Yes and if my grandmother had wheels she'd be a bike. Start a thread about the government spending money wisely. It doesn't escape the fact that we would just be robbing Peter to pay Paul. In other words taking money from one lot of poor people just to give it to other poor people. That's if it would even reach the other poor people

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Little Britain

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?

Yeah, we should let our government spend the money instead on feeding poor, hungry kids in our own country...

Oh...

My thoughts exactly.

We've seen a lot of bad public spending over the last 12 months and NOW we want to talk about "our own?"

Wow...

So we should have more bad public spending because we've had a lot of bad public spending?

Is foreign aid bad spending?"

Yes it is, giving money away when your own citizens are out on the street is rediculously wasteful spending

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By *ackal1Couple over a year ago

Manchester

Little Britain

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?

Yeah, we should let our government spend the money instead on feeding poor, hungry kids in our own country...

Oh...

My thoughts exactly.

We've seen a lot of bad public spending over the last 12 months and NOW we want to talk about "our own?"

Wow...

But why would you want to make it potentially even worse for poor kids here by sending billions abroad?

Because it's already worse...and now it'll be worse elsewhere too.

If other nations can't feed their children perhaps they should have less? Britain has its own people on the streets that need helping before anyone else"

And the fact these people are being bombed to shit rags with weapons we supplied is that ok too?

Your empathy with the plight of these people is heart warming !

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Little Britain

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?

Yeah, we should let our government spend the money instead on feeding poor, hungry kids in our own country...

Oh...

My thoughts exactly.

We've seen a lot of bad public spending over the last 12 months and NOW we want to talk about "our own?"

Wow...

But why would you want to make it potentially even worse for poor kids here by sending billions abroad?

Because it's already worse...and now it'll be worse elsewhere too.

If other nations can't feed their children perhaps they should have less? Britain has its own people on the streets that need helping before anyone else

And the fact these people are being bombed to shit rags with weapons we supplied is that ok too?

Your empathy with the plight of these people is heart warming ! "

They will get weapons to kill eachother with from elsewhere, that's for their own nations to sort out, it's not our job to police the world and fix their problems. Britain should've stayed out of the middle east and left them to it

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By *ackal1Couple over a year ago

Manchester

Little Britain

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?

Yeah, we should let our government spend the money instead on feeding poor, hungry kids in our own country...

Oh...

My thoughts exactly.

We've seen a lot of bad public spending over the last 12 months and NOW we want to talk about "our own?"

Wow...

So we should have more bad public spending because we've had a lot of bad public spending?

Is foreign aid bad spending?

Yes it is, giving money away when your own citizens are out on the street is rediculously wasteful spending"

They are out on the streets due to our governments cuts in social care services and a desire to keep housing expensive . It has a major impact in our net worth as a country. It hides our net debt position which is fucking scary!

Why else do you think there was a give away on stamp duty. That’s didn’t save jobs or lives it just kept the houses selling and bouncing along nicely.

The target on 300k houses is a nice number never met and certainly very low on the affordable level.

Housing and homelessness is a self made issue and nothing to do with the aid budget.

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By *ackal1Couple over a year ago

Manchester

Little Britain

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?

Yeah, we should let our government spend the money instead on feeding poor, hungry kids in our own country...

Oh...

My thoughts exactly.

We've seen a lot of bad public spending over the last 12 months and NOW we want to talk about "our own?"

Wow...

But why would you want to make it potentially even worse for poor kids here by sending billions abroad?

Because it's already worse...and now it'll be worse elsewhere too.

If other nations can't feed their children perhaps they should have less? Britain has its own people on the streets that need helping before anyone else

And the fact these people are being bombed to shit rags with weapons we supplied is that ok too?

Your empathy with the plight of these people is heart warming !

Yea I’m sure the hundreds of thousands of workers in tne U.K. relying on arms sales will totally agree with you.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Little Britain

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?

Yeah, we should let our government spend the money instead on feeding poor, hungry kids in our own country...

Oh...

My thoughts exactly.

We've seen a lot of bad public spending over the last 12 months and NOW we want to talk about "our own?"

Wow...

So we should have more bad public spending because we've had a lot of bad public spending?

Is foreign aid bad spending?

Yes it is, giving money away when your own citizens are out on the street is rediculously wasteful spending

Why else do you think there was a give away on stamp duty. That’s didn’t save jobs or lives it just kept the houses selling and bouncing along nicely.

The target on 300k houses is a nice number never met and certainly very low on the affordable level.

Housing and homelessness is a self made issue and nothing to do with the aid budget. "

They've cut social care and services because they're trying to reduce their expenditure whilst giving away considerably more to foreign nations that aren't our problem or any of our business

Why would you give away money when you're in debt?

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By *lder funCouple over a year ago

tottenham

And house prices are due to the market forces

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By *L RogueMan over a year ago

London

I'm not replying to those those quotes anymore because feels like I'm talking to the same person...

Didn't Marcus Rashford get an MBE for making sure that the government U-turned on making sure children didn't go hungry? Didn't the same government waste money on lucrative contracts for Businesses that had connections with sitting MPs.

The fact is you can't have an honest conversation about cuts if you disregard the spending that happened before. The debates around Foreign Aid are constant. Search these forums if you don't believe me. So feel free to say it's all about the kids and homeless but we all know that's not the complete picture.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Little Britain

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?

Yeah, we should let our government spend the money instead on feeding poor, hungry kids in our own country...

Oh...

My thoughts exactly.

We've seen a lot of bad public spending over the last 12 months and NOW we want to talk about "our own?"

Wow...

So we should have more bad public spending because we've had a lot of bad public spending?

Is foreign aid bad spending?

Yes it is, giving money away when your own citizens are out on the street is rediculously wasteful spending

Why else do you think there was a give away on stamp duty. That’s didn’t save jobs or lives it just kept the houses selling and bouncing along nicely.

The target on 300k houses is a nice number never met and certainly very low on the affordable level.

Housing and homelessness is a self made issue and nothing to do with the aid budget.

They've cut social care and services because they're trying to reduce their expenditure whilst giving away considerably more to foreign nations that aren't our problem or any of our business

Why would you give away money when you're in debt? "

‘Aren’t our problem’ imagine if everyone thought like that

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By *ackal1Couple over a year ago

Manchester

"And house prices are due to the market forces"

Yes supply and demand

Don’t build enough and they are expensive too many and they are cheap it’s not a supermarket it’s government policy on developments which favour more expensive housing.

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By *lder funCouple over a year ago

tottenham

And also the brickies and trades have to be paid a decent wage to build them,they are not a charity

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan over a year ago

here

"I'm not replying to those those quotes anymore because feels like I'm talking to the same person...

... there's an honesty about this that makes it hard not to agree.

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By *ackal1Couple over a year ago

Manchester

Little Britain

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?

Yeah, we should let our government spend the money instead on feeding poor, hungry kids in our own country...

Oh...

My thoughts exactly.

We've seen a lot of bad public spending over the last 12 months and NOW we want to talk about "our own?"

Wow...

So we should have more bad public spending because we've had a lot of bad public spending?

Is foreign aid bad spending?

Yes it is, giving money away when your own citizens are out on the street is rediculously wasteful spending

Why else do you think there was a give away on stamp duty. That’s didn’t save jobs or lives it just kept the houses selling and bouncing along nicely.

The target on 300k houses is a nice number never met and certainly very low on the affordable level.

Housing and homelessness is a self made issue and nothing to do with the aid budget.

They've cut social care and services because they're trying to reduce their expenditure whilst giving away considerably more to foreign nations that aren't our problem or any of our business

Why would you give away money when you're in debt? "

We are aim debt hmm why is that ? Covid yes that’s not helped PPE again not good Brexit adds to the pot!

But are you aware we give away billions every month? The tax avoidance through London is in excess of £300Billion per year. Tax legally avoided by the likes of the owner of the daily mail who lives in Wiltshire and claims non domicile status so most of his income and wealth isn’t taxed or the owners of JCB who wealth is in Caribbean syphoned out of the U.K. through Luxembourg .

Why give all those billions away every month if we are in so much debt??

It makes the aid budget seem like small change.

Not very good housekeeping is it!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Little Britain

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?

Yeah, we should let our government spend the money instead on feeding poor, hungry kids in our own country...

Oh...

My thoughts exactly.

We've seen a lot of bad public spending over the last 12 months and NOW we want to talk about "our own?"

Wow...

So we should have more bad public spending because we've had a lot of bad public spending?

Is foreign aid bad spending?

Yes it is, giving money away when your own citizens are out on the street is rediculously wasteful spending

Why else do you think there was a give away on stamp duty. That’s didn’t save jobs or lives it just kept the houses selling and bouncing along nicely.

The target on 300k houses is a nice number never met and certainly very low on the affordable level.

Housing and homelessness is a self made issue and nothing to do with the aid budget.

They've cut social care and services because they're trying to reduce their expenditure whilst giving away considerably more to foreign nations that aren't our problem or any of our business

Why would you give away money when you're in debt?

We are aim debt hmm why is that ? Covid yes that’s not helped PPE again not good Brexit adds to the pot!

Why give all those billions away every month if we are in so much debt??

It makes the aid budget seem like small change.

Not very good housekeeping is it!!

Exactly, £4 billion is nothing compared to the unpaid taxes

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Little Britain

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?

Yeah, we should let our government spend the money instead on feeding poor, hungry kids in our own country...

Oh...

My thoughts exactly.

We've seen a lot of bad public spending over the last 12 months and NOW we want to talk about "our own?"

Wow...

So we should have more bad public spending because we've had a lot of bad public spending?

Is foreign aid bad spending?

Yes it is, giving money away when your own citizens are out on the street is rediculously wasteful spending

Why else do you think there was a give away on stamp duty. That’s didn’t save jobs or lives it just kept the houses selling and bouncing along nicely.

The target on 300k houses is a nice number never met and certainly very low on the affordable level.

Housing and homelessness is a self made issue and nothing to do with the aid budget.

They've cut social care and services because they're trying to reduce their expenditure whilst giving away considerably more to foreign nations that aren't our problem or any of our business

Why would you give away money when you're in debt?

‘Aren’t our problem’ imagine if everyone thought like that

Perhaps we'd have fixed our own problems and be in a position to actually help other people, instead of throwing money at a problem that has been on going for decades with no real solution

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By *ackal1Couple over a year ago

Manchester

"And also the brickies and trades have to be paid a decent wage to build them,they are not a charity"

Covid stopped the building so not relevant it was just sales .

And a brickie or will be paid the same rate to lay bricks on an affordable house as a on a large house he will just build more !!

Look at any development and see the affordable housing pushed to the corner and a token effort by the builder . They make more money by selling larger houses to more affluent people . The need is for smaller cheaper houses but they aren’t built .

Have a look at donations from the major builders to the political parties This isn’t partisan even Tony Blair supported housing during the crash in his reign. They know we are fucked if it drops .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Little Britain

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?

Yeah, we should let our government spend the money instead on feeding poor, hungry kids in our own country...

Oh...

My thoughts exactly.

We've seen a lot of bad public spending over the last 12 months and NOW we want to talk about "our own?"

Wow...

So we should have more bad public spending because we've had a lot of bad public spending?

Is foreign aid bad spending?

Yes it is, giving money away when your own citizens are out on the street is rediculously wasteful spending

Why else do you think there was a give away on stamp duty. That’s didn’t save jobs or lives it just kept the houses selling and bouncing along nicely.

The target on 300k houses is a nice number never met and certainly very low on the affordable level.

Housing and homelessness is a self made issue and nothing to do with the aid budget.

They've cut social care and services because they're trying to reduce their expenditure whilst giving away considerably more to foreign nations that aren't our problem or any of our business

Why would you give away money when you're in debt?

We are aim debt hmm why is that ? Covid yes that’s not helped PPE again not good Brexit adds to the pot!

Why give all those billions away every month if we are in so much debt??

It makes the aid budget seem like small change.

Not very good housekeeping is it!!

This just comes back to the same point.. just because the government already wastes money that doesn't mean we should waste more. You seem to think I agree with this governments spending/taxation when I don't

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Little Britain

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?

Yeah, we should let our government spend the money instead on feeding poor, hungry kids in our own country...

Oh...

My thoughts exactly.

We've seen a lot of bad public spending over the last 12 months and NOW we want to talk about "our own?"

Wow...

So we should have more bad public spending because we've had a lot of bad public spending?

Is foreign aid bad spending?

Yes it is, giving money away when your own citizens are out on the street is rediculously wasteful spending

Why else do you think there was a give away on stamp duty. That’s didn’t save jobs or lives it just kept the houses selling and bouncing along nicely.

The target on 300k houses is a nice number never met and certainly very low on the affordable level.

Housing and homelessness is a self made issue and nothing to do with the aid budget.

They've cut social care and services because they're trying to reduce their expenditure whilst giving away considerably more to foreign nations that aren't our problem or any of our business

Why would you give away money when you're in debt?

‘Aren’t our problem’ imagine if everyone thought like that

Perhaps we'd have fixed our own problems and be in a position to actually help other people, instead of throwing money at a problem that has been on going for decades with no real solution"

Hungry kids,’ not my problem’, unemployment, ‘not my problem’, etc etc

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By *ackal1Couple over a year ago

Manchester

Little Britain

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?

Yeah, we should let our government spend the money instead on feeding poor, hungry kids in our own country...

Oh...

My thoughts exactly.

We've seen a lot of bad public spending over the last 12 months and NOW we want to talk about "our own?"

Wow...

So we should have more bad public spending because we've had a lot of bad public spending?

Is foreign aid bad spending?

Yes it is, giving money away when your own citizens are out on the street is rediculously wasteful spending

Why else do you think there was a give away on stamp duty. That’s didn’t save jobs or lives it just kept the houses selling and bouncing along nicely.

The target on 300k houses is a nice number never met and certainly very low on the affordable level.

Housing and homelessness is a self made issue and nothing to do with the aid budget.

They've cut social care and services because they're trying to reduce their expenditure whilst giving away considerably more to foreign nations that aren't our problem or any of our business

Why would you give away money when you're in debt?

We are aim debt hmm why is that ? Covid yes that’s not helped PPE again not good Brexit adds to the pot!

Why give all those billions away every month if we are in so much debt??

It makes the aid budget seem like small change.

Not very good housekeeping is it!!

Then you should realise this is of no financial significance and is just to appease his right wing Daily mail supporters. It’s just playing politics but it’s with a real risk people will die !

Given this governments history re Covid I really think they actually don’t care in the slightest!

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By *lder funCouple over a year ago

tottenham

The government doesn't set the tradesmans wages,it is negotiable normally with the main contractor,

Lack of trades they pay more,it's called economics,supply and demand

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By *ackal1Couple over a year ago

Manchester

"The government doesn't set the tradesmans wages,it is negotiable normally with the main contractor,

Lack of trades they pay more,it's called economics,supply and demand "

What’s your point ?? There were no trades working during Covid the first time and yet the government poured money into stamp duty holidays why?? It didn’t help the builders or the need for housing it just kept prices high.

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By *lder funCouple over a year ago

tottenham

No point,just stating a fact,

You know how much tradesman are charging now ?

go and get a quote to get a house built

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By *oxychick35Couple over a year ago

thornaby

"Given that it was a percentage and reduced with our GDP a cut was not needed.

Not measured poverty, real no food at all poverty .

Claims we are the most generous answered here.

Corruption I hear .. it’s estimated 5% is lost through corruption considerably less than the amount lost to favoured PPE contractors in excess payments.

The biggest benefactor of aid from the U.K. is Pakistan. Yes a country that has nuclear weapons and harbours extremists . But it’s spent of women’s aid and education so is it a bad thing??

Global Britain hmmm,,,, I’m alright Jack and fuck you! What goes around etc China will be picking up the slack . So much for our soft power ambitions .

how about Pakistani stop spending money on nuclear weapons and spends it on women’s aid jackal or is that too unreasonable is it the uk fault againnnn

You missed the bit about education !!

The intrinsic issue over honour killings etc etc

We should ignore ok that’s fine then.

And no comment on tax avoidance or PPE

Just because a country behaves in a stupid way like Pakistan on weapons which they hopefully will never use . We are equally stupid losing billions over Brexit and people still deal with us.

Those similar facts are no reason for us helping to stop a country with such lethal weapons descending into another Afghanistan.

Aid isn’t just a bag of flour.

"
firstl jackal I didn’t come t on ppe and tax avoidance because I agree 100% you say I missed the bit about education honour killings so do you really thing the money the U.K. send to Pakistani is spent on educating them that our way of thinking is the way forward do you think they teach about how bad honour killings are in there schools and the U.K. should be responsible for paying for that ? Because your on a rant you bring up how stupid we are for brexit ffs your better than that mate

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Little Britain

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?

Yeah, we should let our government spend the money instead on feeding poor, hungry kids in our own country...

Oh...

My thoughts exactly.

We've seen a lot of bad public spending over the last 12 months and NOW we want to talk about "our own?"

Wow...

So we should have more bad public spending because we've had a lot of bad public spending?

Is foreign aid bad spending?

Yes it is, giving money away when your own citizens are out on the street is rediculously wasteful spending

Why else do you think there was a give away on stamp duty. That’s didn’t save jobs or lives it just kept the houses selling and bouncing along nicely.

The target on 300k houses is a nice number never met and certainly very low on the affordable level.

Housing and homelessness is a self made issue and nothing to do with the aid budget.

They've cut social care and services because they're trying to reduce their expenditure whilst giving away considerably more to foreign nations that aren't our problem or any of our business

Why would you give away money when you're in debt?

‘Aren’t our problem’ imagine if everyone thought like that

Perhaps we'd have fixed our own problems and be in a position to actually help other people, instead of throwing money at a problem that has been on going for decades with no real solution

Hungry kids,’ not my problem’, unemployment, ‘not my problem’, etc etc "

This is the problem nowerdays, people make decisions based on emotion instead of logic

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By *ackal1Couple over a year ago

Manchester

"Given that it was a percentage and reduced with our GDP a cut was not needed.

Not measured poverty, real no food at all poverty .

Claims we are the most generous answered here.

Corruption I hear .. it’s estimated 5% is lost through corruption considerably less than the amount lost to favoured PPE contractors in excess payments.

The biggest benefactor of aid from the U.K. is Pakistan. Yes a country that has nuclear weapons and harbours extremists . But it’s spent of women’s aid and education so is it a bad thing??

Global Britain hmmm,,,, I’m alright Jack and fuck you! What goes around etc China will be picking up the slack . So much for our soft power ambitions .

how about Pakistani stop spending money on nuclear weapons and spends it on women’s aid jackal or is that too unreasonable is it the uk fault againnnn

You missed the bit about education !!

The intrinsic issue over honour killings etc etc

We should ignore ok that’s fine then.

And no comment on tax avoidance or PPE

Just because a country behaves in a stupid way like Pakistan on weapons which they hopefully will never use . We are equally stupid losing billions over Brexit and people still deal with us.

Those similar facts are no reason for us helping to stop a country with such lethal weapons descending into another Afghanistan.

Aid isn’t just a bag of flour.

firstl jackal I didn’t come t on ppe and tax avoidance because I agree 100% you say I missed the bit about education honour killings so do you really thing the money the U.K. send to Pakistani is spent on educating them that our way of thinking is the way forward do you think they teach about how bad honour killings are in there schools and the U.K. should be responsible for paying for that ? Because your on a rant you bring up how stupid we are for brexit ffs your better than that mate "

It was a tongue in cheek comment to say just because we incompetent leaders doesn’t mean the people have to be stupid too.

Education we take for granted. If you’re told you are a woman and must do as your husband says or starve because the local cleric says so do you have any thoughts of how to stop this, no because you can’t read or write and have no voice.

Aid in education and healthcare is critical to stopping the fucking nut jobs like isis and the Taliban. They know keeping the masses ignorant and god fearing keeps them in power.

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By *oxychick35Couple over a year ago

thornaby

"Given that it was a percentage and reduced with our GDP a cut was not needed.

Not measured poverty, real no food at all poverty .

Claims we are the most generous answered here.

Corruption I hear .. it’s estimated 5% is lost through corruption considerably less than the amount lost to favoured PPE contractors in excess payments.

The biggest benefactor of aid from the U.K. is Pakistan. Yes a country that has nuclear weapons and harbours extremists . But it’s spent of women’s aid and education so is it a bad thing??

Global Britain hmmm,,,, I’m alright Jack and fuck you! What goes around etc China will be picking up the slack . So much for our soft power ambitions .

how about Pakistani stop spending money on nuclear weapons and spends it on women’s aid jackal or is that too unreasonable is it the uk fault againnnn

You missed the bit about education !!

The intrinsic issue over honour killings etc etc

We should ignore ok that’s fine then.

And no comment on tax avoidance or PPE

Just because a country behaves in a stupid way like Pakistan on weapons which they hopefully will never use . We are equally stupid losing billions over Brexit and people still deal with us.

Those similar facts are no reason for us helping to stop a country with such lethal weapons descending into another Afghanistan.

Aid isn’t just a bag of flour.

It was a tongue in cheek comment to say just because we incompetent leaders doesn’t mean the people have to be stupid too.

Aid in education and healthcare is critical to stopping the fucking nut jobs like isis and the Taliban. They know keeping the masses ignorant and god fearing keeps them in power. "
jackal so what your saying is you want tne money to teach them the way of the west then and there way of life is wrong I don’t get what you think they will teach them in school that will help the U.K. how many schools in the U.K. have had parents outside protesting about sex education and religion they will teach what they want in Pakistan regardless of U.K. aid mate I’m surprised you think they won’t

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By *ackal1Couple over a year ago

Manchester

"Given that it was a percentage and reduced with our GDP a cut was not needed.

Not measured poverty, real no food at all poverty .

Claims we are the most generous answered here.

Corruption I hear .. it’s estimated 5% is lost through corruption considerably less than the amount lost to favoured PPE contractors in excess payments.

The biggest benefactor of aid from the U.K. is Pakistan. Yes a country that has nuclear weapons and harbours extremists . But it’s spent of women’s aid and education so is it a bad thing??

Global Britain hmmm,,,, I’m alright Jack and fuck you! What goes around etc China will be picking up the slack . So much for our soft power ambitions .

how about Pakistani stop spending money on nuclear weapons and spends it on women’s aid jackal or is that too unreasonable is it the uk fault againnnn

You missed the bit about education !!

The intrinsic issue over honour killings etc etc

We should ignore ok that’s fine then.

And no comment on tax avoidance or PPE

Just because a country behaves in a stupid way like Pakistan on weapons which they hopefully will never use . We are equally stupid losing billions over Brexit and people still deal with us.

Those similar facts are no reason for us helping to stop a country with such lethal weapons descending into another Afghanistan.

Aid isn’t just a bag of flour.

It was a tongue in cheek comment to say just because we incompetent leaders doesn’t mean the people have to be stupid too.

Aid in education and healthcare is critical to stopping the fucking nut jobs like isis and the Taliban. They know keeping the masses ignorant and god fearing keeps them in power. jackal so what your saying is you want tne money to teach them the way of the west then and there way of life is wrong I don’t get what you think they will teach them in school that will help the U.K. how many schools in the U.K. have had parents outside protesting about sex education and religion they will teach what they want in Pakistan regardless of U.K. aid mate I’m surprised you think they won’t "

No not the way of the west at all . I want them to be able to decide their future in a free society . If they want religious schools then fine but if they don’t then they should have that choice in their country. An educated society is less in fear of religion snd therefore it’s leaders.

Personally in the U.K. all religious schools should be banned . Including CofE !!

If you want religion practice it at home.

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By *oxychick35Couple over a year ago

thornaby

"Given that it was a percentage and reduced with our GDP a cut was not needed.

Not measured poverty, real no food at all poverty .

Claims we are the most generous answered here.

Corruption I hear .. it’s estimated 5% is lost through corruption considerably less than the amount lost to favoured PPE contractors in excess payments.

The biggest benefactor of aid from the U.K. is Pakistan. Yes a country that has nuclear weapons and harbours extremists . But it’s spent of women’s aid and education so is it a bad thing??

Global Britain hmmm,,,, I’m alright Jack and fuck you! What goes around etc China will be picking up the slack . So much for our soft power ambitions .

how about Pakistani stop spending money on nuclear weapons and spends it on women’s aid jackal or is that too unreasonable is it the uk fault againnnn

You missed the bit about education !!

The intrinsic issue over honour killings etc etc

We should ignore ok that’s fine then.

And no comment on tax avoidance or PPE

Just because a country behaves in a stupid way like Pakistan on weapons which they hopefully will never use . We are equally stupid losing billions over Brexit and people still deal with us.

Those similar facts are no reason for us helping to stop a country with such lethal weapons descending into another Afghanistan.

Aid isn’t just a bag of flour.

It was a tongue in cheek comment to say just because we incompetent leaders doesn’t mean the people have to be stupid too.

Personally in the U.K. all religious schools should be banned . Including CofE !!

If you want religion practice it at home.

"
agree said many times get rid of religious schools in tne U.K. but that’s never going to happen there and it shouldn’t it’s there way of life fuck all to do with us

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By *ackal1Couple over a year ago

Manchester

"Given that it was a percentage and reduced with our GDP a cut was not needed.

Not measured poverty, real no food at all poverty .

Claims we are the most generous answered here.

Corruption I hear .. it’s estimated 5% is lost through corruption considerably less than the amount lost to favoured PPE contractors in excess payments.

The biggest benefactor of aid from the U.K. is Pakistan. Yes a country that has nuclear weapons and harbours extremists . But it’s spent of women’s aid and education so is it a bad thing??

Global Britain hmmm,,,, I’m alright Jack and fuck you! What goes around etc China will be picking up the slack . So much for our soft power ambitions .

how about Pakistani stop spending money on nuclear weapons and spends it on women’s aid jackal or is that too unreasonable is it the uk fault againnnn

You missed the bit about education !!

The intrinsic issue over honour killings etc etc

We should ignore ok that’s fine then.

And no comment on tax avoidance or PPE

Just because a country behaves in a stupid way like Pakistan on weapons which they hopefully will never use . We are equally stupid losing billions over Brexit and people still deal with us.

Those similar facts are no reason for us helping to stop a country with such lethal weapons descending into another Afghanistan.

Aid isn’t just a bag of flour.

It was a tongue in cheek comment to say just because we incompetent leaders doesn’t mean the people have to be stupid too.

Personally in the U.K. all religious schools should be banned . Including CofE !!

If you want religion practice it at home.

agree said many times get rid of religious schools in tne U.K. but that’s never going to happen there and it shouldn’t it’s there way of life fuck all to do with us "

Look at the number of immigrants from India and Pakistan

Over 600k per year. You sure it’s nothing to do with us?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Little Britain

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?

Yeah, we should let our government spend the money instead on feeding poor, hungry kids in our own country...

Oh...

My thoughts exactly.

We've seen a lot of bad public spending over the last 12 months and NOW we want to talk about "our own?"

Wow...

So we should have more bad public spending because we've had a lot of bad public spending?

Is foreign aid bad spending?

Yes it is, giving money away when your own citizens are out on the street is rediculously wasteful spending

Why else do you think there was a give away on stamp duty. That’s didn’t save jobs or lives it just kept the houses selling and bouncing along nicely.

The target on 300k houses is a nice number never met and certainly very low on the affordable level.

Housing and homelessness is a self made issue and nothing to do with the aid budget.

They've cut social care and services because they're trying to reduce their expenditure whilst giving away considerably more to foreign nations that aren't our problem or any of our business

Why would you give away money when you're in debt?

‘Aren’t our problem’ imagine if everyone thought like that

Perhaps we'd have fixed our own problems and be in a position to actually help other people, instead of throwing money at a problem that has been on going for decades with no real solution

Hungry kids,’ not my problem’, unemployment, ‘not my problem’, etc etc

This is the problem nowerdays, people make decisions based on emotion instead of logic"

Do they? Using your logic hungry kids in the UK has nothing to do with me, homeless people on the streets, has nothing to do with me, hungry kids in other countries, has nothing to do with you or me

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By *oxychick35Couple over a year ago

thornaby

"Given that it was a percentage and reduced with our GDP a cut was not needed.

Not measured poverty, real no food at all poverty .

Claims we are the most generous answered here.

Corruption I hear .. it’s estimated 5% is lost through corruption considerably less than the amount lost to favoured PPE contractors in excess payments.

The biggest benefactor of aid from the U.K. is Pakistan. Yes a country that has nuclear weapons and harbours extremists . But it’s spent of women’s aid and education so is it a bad thing??

Global Britain hmmm,,,, I’m alright Jack and fuck you! What goes around etc China will be picking up the slack . So much for our soft power ambitions .

how about Pakistani stop spending money on nuclear weapons and spends it on women’s aid jackal or is that too unreasonable is it the uk fault againnnn

You missed the bit about education !!

The intrinsic issue over honour killings etc etc

We should ignore ok that’s fine then.

And no comment on tax avoidance or PPE

Just because a country behaves in a stupid way like Pakistan on weapons which they hopefully will never use . We are equally stupid losing billions over Brexit and people still deal with us.

Those similar facts are no reason for us helping to stop a country with such lethal weapons descending into another Afghanistan.

Aid isn’t just a bag of flour.

It was a tongue in cheek comment to say just because we incompetent leaders doesn’t mean the people have to be stupid too.

Personally in the U.K. all religious schools should be banned . Including CofE !!

If you want religion practice it at home.

agree said many times get rid of religious schools in tne U.K. but that’s never going to happen there and it shouldn’t it’s there way of life fuck all to do with us

Look at the number of immigrants from India and Pakistan

Over 600k per year. You sure it’s nothing to do with us? "
so your still saying we should change there way of thinking about religion and beliefs with education who the fuck are we to interfere in there lives don’t you think it’s a bit arrogant jackal ? And I think your 600k a year is way off and now you’ve added India into it why stop there

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By *ebbie69Couple over a year ago

milton keynes

Little Britain"

Seems I have missed this story about the Tories opting out of a European corporation tax clampdown. The only stories I recall recently was the G7 agreement that's been agreed in principal by over 100 countries. I did catch a bit of a headline the other day about the EU now putting there plans on ice due to the G7 agreement. Ireland and a couple of others have said they will not take part. Is yours a different story, if so please share as corporate tax shenanigans is a pain

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Little Britain

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?

Yeah, we should let our government spend the money instead on feeding poor, hungry kids in our own country...

Oh...

My thoughts exactly.

We've seen a lot of bad public spending over the last 12 months and NOW we want to talk about "our own?"

Wow...

So we should have more bad public spending because we've had a lot of bad public spending?

Is foreign aid bad spending?

Yes it is, giving money away when your own citizens are out on the street is rediculously wasteful spending

Why else do you think there was a give away on stamp duty. That’s didn’t save jobs or lives it just kept the houses selling and bouncing along nicely.

The target on 300k houses is a nice number never met and certainly very low on the affordable level.

Housing and homelessness is a self made issue and nothing to do with the aid budget.

They've cut social care and services because they're trying to reduce their expenditure whilst giving away considerably more to foreign nations that aren't our problem or any of our business

Why would you give away money when you're in debt?

‘Aren’t our problem’ imagine if everyone thought like that

Perhaps we'd have fixed our own problems and be in a position to actually help other people, instead of throwing money at a problem that has been on going for decades with no real solution

Hungry kids,’ not my problem’, unemployment, ‘not my problem’, etc etc

This is the problem nowerdays, people make decisions based on emotion instead of logic

Do they? Using your logic hungry kids in the UK has nothing to do with me, homeless people on the streets, has nothing to do with me, hungry kids in other countries, has nothing to do with you or me "

I said sort our people on the streets before helping people from other countries (logical), but you don't want that, you want us send money to other countries because of the "hungry children" whilst we have our own problems to fix prior to helping everyone else (emotional)

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By *ethnmelvCouple over a year ago

Cardiff

Against - it’s show’s in sharp relief how thin the veneer of ‘Global Britain’ really is under the Tory’s. They will throw billions to their mates and nobody bats an eyelid, but give money to foreigners and people all of a sudden get touchy - I am choosing my words wisely here, but it does smack of ‘they’re not like us’…

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Little Britain

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?

Yeah, we should let our government spend the money instead on feeding poor, hungry kids in our own country...

Oh...

My thoughts exactly.

We've seen a lot of bad public spending over the last 12 months and NOW we want to talk about "our own?"

Wow...

So we should have more bad public spending because we've had a lot of bad public spending?

Is foreign aid bad spending?

Yes it is, giving money away when your own citizens are out on the street is rediculously wasteful spending

Why else do you think there was a give away on stamp duty. That’s didn’t save jobs or lives it just kept the houses selling and bouncing along nicely.

The target on 300k houses is a nice number never met and certainly very low on the affordable level.

Housing and homelessness is a self made issue and nothing to do with the aid budget.

They've cut social care and services because they're trying to reduce their expenditure whilst giving away considerably more to foreign nations that aren't our problem or any of our business

Why would you give away money when you're in debt?

‘Aren’t our problem’ imagine if everyone thought like that

Perhaps we'd have fixed our own problems and be in a position to actually help other people, instead of throwing money at a problem that has been on going for decades with no real solution

Hungry kids,’ not my problem’, unemployment, ‘not my problem’, etc etc

This is the problem nowerdays, people make decisions based on emotion instead of logic

Do they? Using your logic hungry kids in the UK has nothing to do with me, homeless people on the streets, has nothing to do with me, hungry kids in other countries, has nothing to do with you or me

What are ‘our own problems’ ?

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By *ackal1Couple over a year ago

Manchester

"Given that it was a percentage and reduced with our GDP a cut was not needed.

Not measured poverty, real no food at all poverty .

Claims we are the most generous answered here.

Corruption I hear .. it’s estimated 5% is lost through corruption considerably less than the amount lost to favoured PPE contractors in excess payments.

The biggest benefactor of aid from the U.K. is Pakistan. Yes a country that has nuclear weapons and harbours extremists . But it’s spent of women’s aid and education so is it a bad thing??

Global Britain hmmm,,,, I’m alright Jack and fuck you! What goes around etc China will be picking up the slack . So much for our soft power ambitions .

how about Pakistani stop spending money on nuclear weapons and spends it on women’s aid jackal or is that too unreasonable is it the uk fault againnnn

You missed the bit about education !!

The intrinsic issue over honour killings etc etc

We should ignore ok that’s fine then.

And no comment on tax avoidance or PPE

Just because a country behaves in a stupid way like Pakistan on weapons which they hopefully will never use . We are equally stupid losing billions over Brexit and people still deal with us.

Those similar facts are no reason for us helping to stop a country with such lethal weapons descending into another Afghanistan.

Aid isn’t just a bag of flour.

It was a tongue in cheek comment to say just because we incompetent leaders doesn’t mean the people have to be stupid too.

Personally in the U.K. all religious schools should be banned . Including CofE !!

If you want religion practice it at home.

agree said many times get rid of religious schools in tne U.K. but that’s never going to happen there and it shouldn’t it’s there way of life fuck all to do with us

Look at the number of immigrants from India and Pakistan

Over 600k per year. You sure it’s nothing to do with us? so your still saying we should change there way of thinking about religion and beliefs with education who the fuck are we to interfere in there lives don’t you think it’s a bit arrogant jackal ? And I think your 600k a year is way off and now you’ve added India into it why stop there "

India .. The post is about giving aid or have you missed that bit? We have been giving aid to India well did until recently. They have a space programme FFS.

Your right the numbers are over 5 years not as I stated per year my mistake it was a comparison I remembered comparing the real numbers of immigrants and their reasons for coming to the U.K. . In the last year a net 330k non eu national came to the U.K. legally. Discounting the western countries as described it is estimated 80% of non European immigrants come for education or dependency. Where as EU immigrants 95% came to work.

You’re not reading my posts, I don’t give a fuck about what religion they follow. I object to fanaticism which breeds off ignorance and lack of education. The aid goes towards education amongst other things.

Give people the ability to read and they can work stuff out for themselves.

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By *oxychick35Couple over a year ago

thornaby

"Given that it was a percentage and reduced with our GDP a cut was not needed.

Not measured poverty, real no food at all poverty .

Claims we are the most generous answered here.

Corruption I hear .. it’s estimated 5% is lost through corruption considerably less than the amount lost to favoured PPE contractors in excess payments.

The biggest benefactor of aid from the U.K. is Pakistan. Yes a country that has nuclear weapons and harbours extremists . But it’s spent of women’s aid and education so is it a bad thing??

Global Britain hmmm,,,, I’m alright Jack and fuck you! What goes around etc China will be picking up the slack . So much for our soft power ambitions .

how about Pakistani stop spending money on nuclear weapons and spends it on women’s aid jackal or is that too unreasonable is it the uk fault againnnn

You missed the bit about education !!

The intrinsic issue over honour killings etc etc

We should ignore ok that’s fine then.

And no comment on tax avoidance or PPE

Just because a country behaves in a stupid way like Pakistan on weapons which they hopefully will never use . We are equally stupid losing billions over Brexit and people still deal with us.

Those similar facts are no reason for us helping to stop a country with such lethal weapons descending into another Afghanistan.

Aid isn’t just a bag of flour.

It was a tongue in cheek comment to say just because we incompetent leaders doesn’t mean the people have to be stupid too.

Personally in the U.K. all religious schools should be banned . Including CofE !!

If you want religion practice it at home.

agree said many times get rid of religious schools in tne U.K. but that’s never going to happen there and it shouldn’t it’s there way of life fuck all to do with us

Look at the number of immigrants from India and Pakistan

India .. The post is about giving aid or have you missed that bit? We have been giving aid to India well did until recently. They have a space programme FFS.

Give people the ability to read and they can work stuff out for themselves. "
I know we been giving aid to India aswell as China it’s a joke it needs stopping I’m all for helping poor countries but if they have space programs nuclear weapons army’s the size of small countries well that’s just plain fucking stupidity in my book and you keep going on about education I’m sure Pakistan can afford to educate there kids without our help and in the way they want to not the western way

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Little Britain

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?

Yeah, we should let our government spend the money instead on feeding poor, hungry kids in our own country...

Oh...

My thoughts exactly.

We've seen a lot of bad public spending over the last 12 months and NOW we want to talk about "our own?"

Wow...

So we should have more bad public spending because we've had a lot of bad public spending?

Is foreign aid bad spending?

Yes it is, giving money away when your own citizens are out on the street is rediculously wasteful spending

Why else do you think there was a give away on stamp duty. That’s didn’t save jobs or lives it just kept the houses selling and bouncing along nicely.

The target on 300k houses is a nice number never met and certainly very low on the affordable level.

Housing and homelessness is a self made issue and nothing to do with the aid budget.

They've cut social care and services because they're trying to reduce their expenditure whilst giving away considerably more to foreign nations that aren't our problem or any of our business

Why would you give away money when you're in debt?

‘Aren’t our problem’ imagine if everyone thought like that

Perhaps we'd have fixed our own problems and be in a position to actually help other people, instead of throwing money at a problem that has been on going for decades with no real solution

Hungry kids,’ not my problem’, unemployment, ‘not my problem’, etc etc

This is the problem nowerdays, people make decisions based on emotion instead of logic

Do they? Using your logic hungry kids in the UK has nothing to do with me, homeless people on the streets, has nothing to do with me, hungry kids in other countries, has nothing to do with you or me

What are ‘our own problems’ ? "

Our national debt, our people on the streets, NHS being underfunded, police being underfunded, obesity epidemic, our open borders, mental health issues, mass media indoctrination, underfunded military, prevalent knife crime, the list is endless.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Little Britain

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?

Yeah, we should let our government spend the money instead on feeding poor, hungry kids in our own country...

Oh...

My thoughts exactly.

We've seen a lot of bad public spending over the last 12 months and NOW we want to talk about "our own?"

Wow...

So we should have more bad public spending because we've had a lot of bad public spending?

Is foreign aid bad spending?

Yes it is, giving money away when your own citizens are out on the street is rediculously wasteful spending

Why else do you think there was a give away on stamp duty. That’s didn’t save jobs or lives it just kept the houses selling and bouncing along nicely.

The target on 300k houses is a nice number never met and certainly very low on the affordable level.

Housing and homelessness is a self made issue and nothing to do with the aid budget.

They've cut social care and services because they're trying to reduce their expenditure whilst giving away considerably more to foreign nations that aren't our problem or any of our business

Why would you give away money when you're in debt?

‘Aren’t our problem’ imagine if everyone thought like that

Perhaps we'd have fixed our own problems and be in a position to actually help other people, instead of throwing money at a problem that has been on going for decades with no real solution

Hungry kids,’ not my problem’, unemployment, ‘not my problem’, etc etc

This is the problem nowerdays, people make decisions based on emotion instead of logic

Do they? Using your logic hungry kids in the UK has nothing to do with me, homeless people on the streets, has nothing to do with me, hungry kids in other countries, has nothing to do with you or me

What are ‘our own problems’ ?

If my child was going hungry and so was yours whose child would be your priority? It would be yours in your eyes and mine in my eyes; Is that wrong? No. Your family takes priority as does your country before someone elses.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Little Britain

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?

Yeah, we should let our government spend the money instead on feeding poor, hungry kids in our own country...

Oh...

My thoughts exactly.

We've seen a lot of bad public spending over the last 12 months and NOW we want to talk about "our own?"

Wow...

So we should have more bad public spending because we've had a lot of bad public spending?

Is foreign aid bad spending?

Yes it is, giving money away when your own citizens are out on the street is rediculously wasteful spending

Why else do you think there was a give away on stamp duty. That’s didn’t save jobs or lives it just kept the houses selling and bouncing along nicely.

The target on 300k houses is a nice number never met and certainly very low on the affordable level.

Housing and homelessness is a self made issue and nothing to do with the aid budget.

They've cut social care and services because they're trying to reduce their expenditure whilst giving away considerably more to foreign nations that aren't our problem or any of our business

Why would you give away money when you're in debt?

‘Aren’t our problem’ imagine if everyone thought like that

Perhaps we'd have fixed our own problems and be in a position to actually help other people, instead of throwing money at a problem that has been on going for decades with no real solution

Hungry kids,’ not my problem’, unemployment, ‘not my problem’, etc etc

This is the problem nowerdays, people make decisions based on emotion instead of logic

Do they? Using your logic hungry kids in the UK has nothing to do with me, homeless people on the streets, has nothing to do with me, hungry kids in other countries, has nothing to do with you or me

What are ‘our own problems’ ?

And you honestly think stopping foreign aid will change anything?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Little Britain

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?

Yeah, we should let our government spend the money instead on feeding poor, hungry kids in our own country...

Oh...

My thoughts exactly.

We've seen a lot of bad public spending over the last 12 months and NOW we want to talk about "our own?"

Wow...

So we should have more bad public spending because we've had a lot of bad public spending?

Is foreign aid bad spending?

Yes it is, giving money away when your own citizens are out on the street is rediculously wasteful spending

Why else do you think there was a give away on stamp duty. That’s didn’t save jobs or lives it just kept the houses selling and bouncing along nicely.

The target on 300k houses is a nice number never met and certainly very low on the affordable level.

Housing and homelessness is a self made issue and nothing to do with the aid budget.

They've cut social care and services because they're trying to reduce their expenditure whilst giving away considerably more to foreign nations that aren't our problem or any of our business

Why would you give away money when you're in debt?

‘Aren’t our problem’ imagine if everyone thought like that

Perhaps we'd have fixed our own problems and be in a position to actually help other people, instead of throwing money at a problem that has been on going for decades with no real solution

Hungry kids,’ not my problem’, unemployment, ‘not my problem’, etc etc

This is the problem nowerdays, people make decisions based on emotion instead of logic

Do they? Using your logic hungry kids in the UK has nothing to do with me, homeless people on the streets, has nothing to do with me, hungry kids in other countries, has nothing to do with you or me

What are ‘our own problems’ ?

And you honestly think stopping foreign aid will change anything? "

That just goes back to.. so we should just waste money because the idiots on either side of the political spectrum are wasting money? Regardless of who runs the country, that £10bn will change something if the foreign aid budget was cut because it will be used somewhere else. In the hypothetical scenario where we had someone in power that put Britain and it's people before anything else then stopping wasteful spending i.e foreign aid would change things for the better.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Little Britain

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?

Yeah, we should let our government spend the money instead on feeding poor, hungry kids in our own country...

Oh...

My thoughts exactly.

We've seen a lot of bad public spending over the last 12 months and NOW we want to talk about "our own?"

Wow...

So we should have more bad public spending because we've had a lot of bad public spending?

Is foreign aid bad spending?

Yes it is, giving money away when your own citizens are out on the street is rediculously wasteful spending

Why else do you think there was a give away on stamp duty. That’s didn’t save jobs or lives it just kept the houses selling and bouncing along nicely.

The target on 300k houses is a nice number never met and certainly very low on the affordable level.

Housing and homelessness is a self made issue and nothing to do with the aid budget.

They've cut social care and services because they're trying to reduce their expenditure whilst giving away considerably more to foreign nations that aren't our problem or any of our business

Why would you give away money when you're in debt?

‘Aren’t our problem’ imagine if everyone thought like that

Perhaps we'd have fixed our own problems and be in a position to actually help other people, instead of throwing money at a problem that has been on going for decades with no real solution

Hungry kids,’ not my problem’, unemployment, ‘not my problem’, etc etc

This is the problem nowerdays, people make decisions based on emotion instead of logic

Do they? Using your logic hungry kids in the UK has nothing to do with me, homeless people on the streets, has nothing to do with me, hungry kids in other countries, has nothing to do with you or me

What are ‘our own problems’ ?

And you honestly think stopping foreign aid will change anything?

It is a political ‘stunt’ to appease the right wingers in the Tory party, it won’t change a thing

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By *andy 1Couple over a year ago

northeast

"Given that it was a percentage and reduced with our GDP a cut was not needed.

Not measured poverty, real no food at all poverty .

Claims we are the most generous answered here.

Corruption I hear .. it’s estimated 5% is lost through corruption considerably less than the amount lost to favoured PPE contractors in excess payments.

The biggest benefactor of aid from the U.K. is Pakistan. Yes a country that has nuclear weapons and harbours extremists . But it’s spent of women’s aid and education so is it a bad thing??

Global Britain hmmm,,,, I’m alright Jack and fuck you! What goes around etc China will be picking up the slack . So much for our soft power ambitions .

how about Pakistani stop spending money on nuclear weapons and spends it on women’s aid jackal or is that too unreasonable is it the uk fault againnnn

You missed the bit about education !!

The intrinsic issue over honour killings etc etc

We should ignore ok that’s fine then.

And no comment on tax avoidance or PPE

Just because a country behaves in a stupid way like Pakistan on weapons which they hopefully will never use . We are equally stupid losing billions over Brexit and people still deal with us.

Those similar facts are no reason for us helping to stop a country with such lethal weapons descending into another Afghanistan.

Aid isn’t just a bag of flour.

It was a tongue in cheek comment to say just because we incompetent leaders doesn’t mean the people have to be stupid too.

Personally in the U.K. all religious schools should be banned . Including CofE !!

If you want religion practice it at home.

agree said many times get rid of religious schools in tne U.K. but that’s never going to happen there and it shouldn’t it’s there way of life fuck all to do with us

Look at the number of immigrants from India and Pakistan

India .. The post is about giving aid or have you missed that bit? We have been giving aid to India well did until recently. They have a space programme FFS.

Give people the ability to read and they can work stuff out for themselves. I know we been giving aid to India aswell as China it’s a joke it needs stopping I’m all for helping poor countries but if they have space programs nuclear weapons army’s the size of small countries well that’s just plain fucking stupidity in my book and you keep going on about education I’m sure Pakistan can afford to educate there kids without our help and in the way they want to not the western way "

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By *ackal1Couple over a year ago

Manchester

Little Britain

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?

Yeah, we should let our government spend the money instead on feeding poor, hungry kids in our own country...

Oh...

My thoughts exactly.

We've seen a lot of bad public spending over the last 12 months and NOW we want to talk about "our own?"

Wow...

So we should have more bad public spending because we've had a lot of bad public spending?

Is foreign aid bad spending?

Yes it is, giving money away when your own citizens are out on the street is rediculously wasteful spending

Why else do you think there was a give away on stamp duty. That’s didn’t save jobs or lives it just kept the houses selling and bouncing along nicely.

The target on 300k houses is a nice number never met and certainly very low on the affordable level.

Housing and homelessness is a self made issue and nothing to do with the aid budget.

They've cut social care and services because they're trying to reduce their expenditure whilst giving away considerably more to foreign nations that aren't our problem or any of our business

Why would you give away money when you're in debt?

‘Aren’t our problem’ imagine if everyone thought like that

Perhaps we'd have fixed our own problems and be in a position to actually help other people, instead of throwing money at a problem that has been on going for decades with no real solution

Hungry kids,’ not my problem’, unemployment, ‘not my problem’, etc etc

This is the problem nowerdays, people make decisions based on emotion instead of logic

Do they? Using your logic hungry kids in the UK has nothing to do with me, homeless people on the streets, has nothing to do with me, hungry kids in other countries, has nothing to do with you or me

What are ‘our own problems’ ?

So why do you think the government gives more money each year to rich people? Seems a bit churlish to make the poor in either country suffer any you think?

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By *ackal1Couple over a year ago

Manchester

Little Britain

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?

Yeah, we should let our government spend the money instead on feeding poor, hungry kids in our own country...

Oh...

My thoughts exactly.

We've seen a lot of bad public spending over the last 12 months and NOW we want to talk about "our own?"

Wow...

So we should have more bad public spending because we've had a lot of bad public spending?

Is foreign aid bad spending?

Yes it is, giving money away when your own citizens are out on the street is rediculously wasteful spending

Why else do you think there was a give away on stamp duty. That’s didn’t save jobs or lives it just kept the houses selling and bouncing along nicely.

The target on 300k houses is a nice number never met and certainly very low on the affordable level.

Housing and homelessness is a self made issue and nothing to do with the aid budget.

They've cut social care and services because they're trying to reduce their expenditure whilst giving away considerably more to foreign nations that aren't our problem or any of our business

Why would you give away money when you're in debt?

‘Aren’t our problem’ imagine if everyone thought like that

Perhaps we'd have fixed our own problems and be in a position to actually help other people, instead of throwing money at a problem that has been on going for decades with no real solution

Hungry kids,’ not my problem’, unemployment, ‘not my problem’, etc etc

This is the problem nowerdays, people make decisions based on emotion instead of logic

Do they? Using your logic hungry kids in the UK has nothing to do with me, homeless people on the streets, has nothing to do with me, hungry kids in other countries, has nothing to do with you or me

What are ‘our own problems’ ?

And you honestly think stopping foreign aid will change anything?

You are living in a fantasy Utopia if you think the government will divert those savings to anyone needy in this country.

If they were serious about that they would would have made financial institutions part of the global tax attack. Oh hang on those guys will pay me a shit load of money when I leave politics.

Keep the gravy train going at all costs .

New hospitals

50k “extra” nurses

Why no reform of MP’s profit making expenses in last 13 years despite promising to do so?

Levelling up the north ( interesting how that’s around the £4b mark and when spread out probably gives us all a nice share of fuck all .

It’s less than one of the major rail projects in London!

What happened to the extra payments for poor people in this country if we’ve managed to save so much in aid why is that being withdrawn.

As I’ve got older and seen how the system stinks. It makes me laugh how people actually think the Tories are for them. They are for themselves and I’m not a labour supporter so don’t think that!

They get into Parliament and can’t resist the easy life and play the game .

You keep being happy with the crumbs and they’ll keep telling you how they are working so hard to make your life better!!

The country’s GDP has grown and yet you are mostly worse off!!

I’ve listened to that crap a long time and the only people who keep getting rich and staying rich is the same elite privileged groups save a few entrepreneurs.

We don’t have PR in this country as that would upset the order they control to keep you in your place .

Aid cutting will make no difference apart from a few right wing tits being happy it’s not going to those “other people”

Sadly it will affect a lot of very poor people in a far more serious way

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Little Britain

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?

Yeah, we should let our government spend the money instead on feeding poor, hungry kids in our own country...

Oh...

My thoughts exactly.

We've seen a lot of bad public spending over the last 12 months and NOW we want to talk about "our own?"

Wow...

So we should have more bad public spending because we've had a lot of bad public spending?

Is foreign aid bad spending?

Yes it is, giving money away when your own citizens are out on the street is rediculously wasteful spending

Why else do you think there was a give away on stamp duty. That’s didn’t save jobs or lives it just kept the houses selling and bouncing along nicely.

The target on 300k houses is a nice number never met and certainly very low on the affordable level.

Housing and homelessness is a self made issue and nothing to do with the aid budget.

They've cut social care and services because they're trying to reduce their expenditure whilst giving away considerably more to foreign nations that aren't our problem or any of our business

Why would you give away money when you're in debt?

‘Aren’t our problem’ imagine if everyone thought like that

Perhaps we'd have fixed our own problems and be in a position to actually help other people, instead of throwing money at a problem that has been on going for decades with no real solution

Hungry kids,’ not my problem’, unemployment, ‘not my problem’, etc etc

This is the problem nowerdays, people make decisions based on emotion instead of logic

Do they? Using your logic hungry kids in the UK has nothing to do with me, homeless people on the streets, has nothing to do with me, hungry kids in other countries, has nothing to do with you or me

What are ‘our own problems’ ?

So why do you think the government gives more money each year to rich people? Seems a bit churlish to make the poor in either country suffer any you think?

Because clearly they're owned by their backers, hence why democracy is useless. This thread is about foreign aid, my stance is all wasteful spending should be stopped and this country and its people should be put first. So can we stop with the whataboutism?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Little Britain

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?

Yeah, we should let our government spend the money instead on feeding poor, hungry kids in our own country...

Oh...

My thoughts exactly.

We've seen a lot of bad public spending over the last 12 months and NOW we want to talk about "our own?"

Wow...

So we should have more bad public spending because we've had a lot of bad public spending?

Is foreign aid bad spending?

Yes it is, giving money away when your own citizens are out on the street is rediculously wasteful spending

Why else do you think there was a give away on stamp duty. That’s didn’t save jobs or lives it just kept the houses selling and bouncing along nicely.

The target on 300k houses is a nice number never met and certainly very low on the affordable level.

Housing and homelessness is a self made issue and nothing to do with the aid budget.

They've cut social care and services because they're trying to reduce their expenditure whilst giving away considerably more to foreign nations that aren't our problem or any of our business

Why would you give away money when you're in debt?

‘Aren’t our problem’ imagine if everyone thought like that

Perhaps we'd have fixed our own problems and be in a position to actually help other people, instead of throwing money at a problem that has been on going for decades with no real solution

Hungry kids,’ not my problem’, unemployment, ‘not my problem’, etc etc

This is the problem nowerdays, people make decisions based on emotion instead of logic

Do they? Using your logic hungry kids in the UK has nothing to do with me, homeless people on the streets, has nothing to do with me, hungry kids in other countries, has nothing to do with you or me

What are ‘our own problems’ ?

So why do you think the government gives more money each year to rich people? Seems a bit churlish to make the poor in either country suffer any you think?

The general public of this country should be put 1st. Sadly, they are not.

But even if the people here were put 1st, it wouldn't mean you can't give foreign aid too. The Tories have wasted an immense amount of money and given it to chums while claiming there is no money. There clearly is money.

As to why we should give foreign aid, have you heard of a thing called humanity? Saving blameless lives? And if that doesn't sway you, learn about a thing called "soft power".

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

I've changed my mind tbh.

I think it's great the poor and needy are going to get some financial help so if someone could just provide me with the specific groups who are going to benefit,and how much they are getting,that would be much appreciated

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By *ick270Man over a year ago

Here

Should have been cut to the bone when have charity bosses earning more than the PM and all the money raised by ban aid 35 years later still wanting more,nothing changes its ego boost for a few

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Should have been cut to the bone when have charity bosses earning more than the PM and all the money raised by ban aid 35 years later still wanting more,nothing changes its ego boost for a few "

How many charity bosses earn more than the pm?

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

"Should have been cut to the bone when have charity bosses earning more than the PM and all the money raised by ban aid 35 years later still wanting more,nothing changes its ego boost for a few

How many charity bosses earn more than the pm?"

Lionel.. Shoosh !

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By *ethnmelvCouple over a year ago

Cardiff

Little Britain

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?

Yeah, we should let our government spend the money instead on feeding poor, hungry kids in our own country...

Oh...

My thoughts exactly.

We've seen a lot of bad public spending over the last 12 months and NOW we want to talk about "our own?"

Wow...

So we should have more bad public spending because we've had a lot of bad public spending?

Is foreign aid bad spending?

Yes it is, giving money away when your own citizens are out on the street is rediculously wasteful spending

Why else do you think there was a give away on stamp duty. That’s didn’t save jobs or lives it just kept the houses selling and bouncing along nicely.

The target on 300k houses is a nice number never met and certainly very low on the affordable level.

Housing and homelessness is a self made issue and nothing to do with the aid budget.

They've cut social care and services because they're trying to reduce their expenditure whilst giving away considerably more to foreign nations that aren't our problem or any of our business

Why would you give away money when you're in debt?

‘Aren’t our problem’ imagine if everyone thought like that

Perhaps we'd have fixed our own problems and be in a position to actually help other people, instead of throwing money at a problem that has been on going for decades with no real solution

Hungry kids,’ not my problem’, unemployment, ‘not my problem’, etc etc

This is the problem nowerdays, people make decisions based on emotion instead of logic

Do they? Using your logic hungry kids in the UK has nothing to do with me, homeless people on the streets, has nothing to do with me, hungry kids in other countries, has nothing to do with you or me

What are ‘our own problems’ ?

So why do you think the government gives more money each year to rich people? Seems a bit churlish to make the poor in either country suffer any you think?

The general public of this country should be put 1st. Sadly, they are not.

As to why we should give foreign aid, have you heard of a thing called humanity? Saving blameless lives? And if that doesn't sway you, learn about a thing called "soft power".

Ask Dido & Hancocks family for money back & we could still afford to meet our commitments

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Little Britain

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?

Yeah, we should let our government spend the money instead on feeding poor, hungry kids in our own country...

Oh...

My thoughts exactly.

We've seen a lot of bad public spending over the last 12 months and NOW we want to talk about "our own?"

Wow...

So we should have more bad public spending because we've had a lot of bad public spending?

Is foreign aid bad spending?

Yes it is, giving money away when your own citizens are out on the street is rediculously wasteful spending

Why else do you think there was a give away on stamp duty. That’s didn’t save jobs or lives it just kept the houses selling and bouncing along nicely.

The target on 300k houses is a nice number never met and certainly very low on the affordable level.

Housing and homelessness is a self made issue and nothing to do with the aid budget.

They've cut social care and services because they're trying to reduce their expenditure whilst giving away considerably more to foreign nations that aren't our problem or any of our business

Why would you give away money when you're in debt?

‘Aren’t our problem’ imagine if everyone thought like that

Perhaps we'd have fixed our own problems and be in a position to actually help other people, instead of throwing money at a problem that has been on going for decades with no real solution

Hungry kids,’ not my problem’, unemployment, ‘not my problem’, etc etc

This is the problem nowerdays, people make decisions based on emotion instead of logic

Do they? Using your logic hungry kids in the UK has nothing to do with me, homeless people on the streets, has nothing to do with me, hungry kids in other countries, has nothing to do with you or me

What are ‘our own problems’ ?

So why do you think the government gives more money each year to rich people? Seems a bit churlish to make the poor in either country suffer any you think?

The general public of this country should be put 1st. Sadly, they are not.

As to why we should give foreign aid, have you heard of a thing called humanity? Saving blameless lives? And if that doesn't sway you, learn about a thing called "soft power".

It's not britains job to look after every other nations children, if you base your decisions on emotions you're not fit to lead. If we did soft power like china (build infrastructure and if the country can't pay for it then china takes ownership of it) then I'd agree it may be worth it, but we gain nothing from handing out money to everyone.

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

Little Britain

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?

Yeah, we should let our government spend the money instead on feeding poor, hungry kids in our own country...

Oh...

My thoughts exactly.

We've seen a lot of bad public spending over the last 12 months and NOW we want to talk about "our own?"

Wow...

So we should have more bad public spending because we've had a lot of bad public spending?

Is foreign aid bad spending?

Yes it is, giving money away when your own citizens are out on the street is rediculously wasteful spending

Why else do you think there was a give away on stamp duty. That’s didn’t save jobs or lives it just kept the houses selling and bouncing along nicely.

The target on 300k houses is a nice number never met and certainly very low on the affordable level.

Housing and homelessness is a self made issue and nothing to do with the aid budget.

They've cut social care and services because they're trying to reduce their expenditure whilst giving away considerably more to foreign nations that aren't our problem or any of our business

Why would you give away money when you're in debt?

‘Aren’t our problem’ imagine if everyone thought like that

Perhaps we'd have fixed our own problems and be in a position to actually help other people, instead of throwing money at a problem that has been on going for decades with no real solution

Hungry kids,’ not my problem’, unemployment, ‘not my problem’, etc etc

This is the problem nowerdays, people make decisions based on emotion instead of logic

Do they? Using your logic hungry kids in the UK has nothing to do with me, homeless people on the streets, has nothing to do with me, hungry kids in other countries, has nothing to do with you or me

What are ‘our own problems’ ?

So why do you think the government gives more money each year to rich people? Seems a bit churlish to make the poor in either country suffer any you think?

The general public of this country should be put 1st. Sadly, they are not.

As to why we should give foreign aid, have you heard of a thing called humanity? Saving blameless lives? And if that doesn't sway you, learn about a thing called "soft power".

Could you tell which groups the money is helping?

Cheers

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By *oxychick35Couple over a year ago

thornaby

Little Britain

So we should give more away? Making our own poor even worse off?

Yeah, we should let our government spend the money instead on feeding poor, hungry kids in our own country...

Oh...

My thoughts exactly.

We've seen a lot of bad public spending over the last 12 months and NOW we want to talk about "our own?"

Wow...

So we should have more bad public spending because we've had a lot of bad public spending?

Is foreign aid bad spending?

Yes it is, giving money away when your own citizens are out on the street is rediculously wasteful spending

Why else do you think there was a give away on stamp duty. That’s didn’t save jobs or lives it just kept the houses selling and bouncing along nicely.

The target on 300k houses is a nice number never met and certainly very low on the affordable level.

Housing and homelessness is a self made issue and nothing to do with the aid budget.

They've cut social care and services because they're trying to reduce their expenditure whilst giving away considerably more to foreign nations that aren't our problem or any of our business

Why would you give away money when you're in debt?

‘Aren’t our problem’ imagine if everyone thought like that

Perhaps we'd have fixed our own problems and be in a position to actually help other people, instead of throwing money at a problem that has been on going for decades with no real solution

Hungry kids,’ not my problem’, unemployment, ‘not my problem’, etc etc

This is the problem nowerdays, people make decisions based on emotion instead of logic

Do they? Using your logic hungry kids in the UK has nothing to do with me, homeless people on the streets, has nothing to do with me, hungry kids in other countries, has nothing to do with you or me

What are ‘our own problems’ ?

So why do you think the government gives more money each year to rich people? Seems a bit churlish to make the poor in either country suffer any you think?

The general public of this country should be put 1st. Sadly, they are not.

As to why we should give foreign aid, have you heard of a thing called humanity? Saving blameless lives? And if that doesn't sway you, learn about a thing called "soft power".

Could you tell which groups the money is helping?

Cheers

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I asked this a while ago but the ppl who are against couldn’t answer. So how much should we give in overseas aid ? If it’s about feeding poor ppl amd educating them no amount will be enough so how about we scrap hs2 I mean twenty minutes saved time from Leeds to London against starving ppl in Africa it’s a no brainier so there’s an extra 100 odd billion to give away would that make the ones who are against happy ??

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

No..which groups in the uk is the money going too?

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By *oxychick35Couple over a year ago

thornaby

"No..which groups in the uk is the money going too?"
no Lionel this to you and the ppl who are against the cuts I’m asking no money is enough to send abroad so how much is enough a 100 billion 200billion just give me a number how much should we send and what cuts shud we make to fund it ????

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

I'll try again.

Your party have consistently said the money needs to be spent here.

Where will it be spent?

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By *oxychick35Couple over a year ago

thornaby

"I'll try again.

Your party have consistently said the money needs to be spent here.

Where will it be spent?"
it’s not my party amd you know that don’t bother asking me questions you can’t answer any yourself mate your famous on here for it

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By *wisted999Man over a year ago

North Bucks

It was fun while it lasted. A peaceful interlude and now back to arguing.

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

All through the thread people have said the money should be spent here but asking where it will be spent obviously crosses a line

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"I'll try again.

Your party have consistently said the money needs to be spent here.

Where will it be spent?it’s not my party amd you know that don’t bother asking me questions you can’t answer any yourself mate your famous on here for it "

You asked me a question thf other day.

I answered and you had forgotten you asked it.

However let's stick to the point.

I'll give it 1 more go.

All the way through the thread people(including yourself)have said the money should be spent here

So I'll type this real slowly

Where will it be spent?

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

A bit of a pointless question, as far as i know no one in here is in the government so they probably have as much idea as you do.

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

Let's not send money abroad it needs to be spent here.

Right..where is it going?

Erm..I haven't got a clue

Well I'm convinced

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By *ebbie69Couple over a year ago

milton keynes

"A bit of a pointless question, as far as i know no one in here is in the government so they probably have as much idea as you do."

thats true and as it all goes into a big pot not easy to know. How about give it to a UK charity like children in need or similar

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

I would like the Government hold a Free raffle with every UK citizen having a ticket. Then on a Saturday night Boris could do a draw and make ten UK citizens millionaires. Not just any old lottery but an oven ready lottery.

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By *oxychick35Couple over a year ago

thornaby

"I'll try again.

Your party have consistently said the money needs to be spent here.

Where will it be spent?it’s not my party amd you know that don’t bother asking me questions you can’t answer any yourself mate your famous on here for it

You asked me a question thf other day.

I answered and you had forgotten you asked it.

However let's stick to the point.

I'll give it 1 more go.

All the way through the thread people(including yourself)have said the money should be spent here

So I'll type this real slowly

Where will it be spent?"
will be spent I do t know where it should be spent on the poor and homeless maybe nhs to help with that little chalenge they have got on now called covid that’s a start how about how much should we spend on overseas aid then go on have a go it won’t hurt Lionel

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By *eanoCoolMan over a year ago

wisbech

Nobody on this forum can categorically state where the money would be spent here or abroad if for aid, that is upto the government, charities and various organisations that would receive the funds and I wouldn't mind betting even they couldn't tell you categorically where every penny goes to be fair. Unfortunately the public taxpayer is never consulted on what we would like the money we pay in spent on, theres always somebody who knows better how to do that, apparently.

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"I'll try again.

Your party have consistently said the money needs to be spent here.

Where will it be spent?it’s not my party amd you know that don’t bother asking me questions you can’t answer any yourself mate your famous on here for it

You asked me a question thf other day.

I answered and you had forgotten you asked it.

However let's stick to the point.

I'll give it 1 more go.

All the way through the thread people(including yourself)have said the money should be spent here

So I'll type this real slowly

Where will it be spent? will be spent I do t know where it should be spent on the poor and homeless maybe nhs to help with that little chalenge they have got on now called covid that’s a start how about how much should we spend on overseas aid then go on have a go it won’t hurt Lionel "

So you domt know where it's going to be spent ?

We pledged to spent x amount on foreign aid.

We should stick to that pledge as when the time comes to ask countires to do the same, we wont have a leg to stand on

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

"I'll try again.

Your party have consistently said the money needs to be spent here.

Where will it be spent?it’s not my party amd you know that don’t bother asking me questions you can’t answer any yourself mate your famous on here for it

You asked me a question thf other day.

I answered and you had forgotten you asked it.

However let's stick to the point.

I'll give it 1 more go.

All the way through the thread people(including yourself)have said the money should be spent here

So I'll type this real slowly

So you domt know where it's going to be spent ?

We pledged to spent x amount on foreign aid.

We should stick to that pledge as when the time comes to ask countires to do the same, we wont have a leg to stand on

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what makes you think other countries listen to the uk about foreign aid? most of them spend less gdp than the uk anyway.

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By *andy 1Couple over a year ago

northeast

"I'll try again.

Your party have consistently said the money needs to be spent here.

Where will it be spent?it’s not my party amd you know that don’t bother asking me questions you can’t answer any yourself mate your famous on here for it

You asked me a question thf other day.

I answered and you had forgotten you asked it.

However let's stick to the point.

I'll give it 1 more go.

All the way through the thread people(including yourself)have said the money should be spent here

So I'll type this real slowly

So you domt know where it's going to be spent ?

We pledged to spent x amount on foreign aid.

We should stick to that pledge as when the time comes to ask countires to do the same, we wont have a leg to stand on

what makes you think other countries listen to the uk about foreign aid? most of them spend less gdp than the uk anyway."

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By *eroy1000Man over a year ago

milton keynes

"I'll try again.

Your party have consistently said the money needs to be spent here.

Where will it be spent?it’s not my party amd you know that don’t bother asking me questions you can’t answer any yourself mate your famous on here for it

You asked me a question thf other day.

I answered and you had forgotten you asked it.

However let's stick to the point.

I'll give it 1 more go.

All the way through the thread people(including yourself)have said the money should be spent here

So I'll type this real slowly

So you domt know where it's going to be spent ?

We pledged to spent x amount on foreign aid.

We should stick to that pledge as when the time comes to ask countires to do the same, we wont have a leg to stand on

what makes you think other countries listen to the uk about foreign aid? most of them spend less gdp than the uk anyway."

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By *eroy1000Man over a year ago

milton keynes

"Given that it was a percentage and reduced with our GDP a cut was not needed.

Not measured poverty, real no food at all poverty .

Claims we are the most generous answered here.

Corruption I hear .. it’s estimated 5% is lost through corruption considerably less than the amount lost to favoured PPE contractors in excess payments.

The biggest benefactor of aid from the U.K. is Pakistan. Yes a country that has nuclear weapons and harbours extremists . But it’s spent of women’s aid and education so is it a bad thing??

Global Britain hmmm,,,, I’m alright Jack and fuck you! What goes around etc China will be picking up the slack . So much for our soft power ambitions .

Absolutely agree with your comments on done pay less.. And?

Is your argument for cuts is well those over there are!!

Ok then let’s look at pensions in other countries snd we can match other on those too then!

Either you agree with foreign aid or you don’t and to cut the percentage is mean spirited by an incompetent short sighted government.

You quoted only countries that give more so for balance I quoted those that give less as you must have forgotten we are amongst the most generous. Even with the cut we will be basically the same as France. I don't hear you complain about them. Pensions have nothing to do with this thread so is just a deflection attempt. Yes i agree with aid if targeted and proven to get where its sent as opposed to being siphoned off.

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