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"So word on the street is mr Donald Trump is preparing to run for presidency for the 3rd time. Personally I don't think he has a chance. Why? Because like Brexit, the people have seen what a fiasco is was to have him in office previously. Honestly did he really care about 'make America great'? Or was it all about him and his family? I mean at the height of the Pandemic he was more concerned about his image than the impact and repercussions of Covid both nationally and internationally. Irrespective of weather you're a Republican or Democrat you couldn't deny what was happening. Could you? I mean when something is white it's white and when it's green it's clearly green. However mr Trump is a man who would argue likewise just because he's always right even when he knows he's awfully wrong. " Hey, OP I liked your posts until this one - I was blissfully enjoying not hearing about this man in the news/ media etc anymore and then you came along and started it! Only joking - fire away. (I was serious about being happy not to hear about DT anymore though - that part was true!)  | |||
"To be honest, the word on the street in the US is not always the word you get published in the UK media. Trump is still very popular and many people seem to want him back - not for him as a person but so many already dislike Biden that much. If he stepped down and let Kamala in, it would be a far more interesting contest." Yes, the gulf between media reports in the UK and US media always surprises me. He still has an astonishingly good level of support on the ground - the election wasn't exactly a landslide for Biden. | |||
"To be honest, the word on the street in the US is not always the word you get published in the UK media. Trump is still very popular and many people seem to want him back - not for him as a person but so many already dislike Biden that much. If he stepped down and let Kamala in, it would be a far more interesting contest. Yes, the gulf between media reports in the UK and US media always surprises me. He still has an astonishingly good level of support on the ground - the election wasn't exactly a landslide for Biden." So does Desantis. It's Going to be interesting. Trump supporters here where I live are still supporting him. | |||
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"Just remember 75m people voted for that lunatic and that’s after 4 years screwing up the country and the world whenever the chance arose. Also, this is the country that re-elected George Bush and that seemed bad enough at the time! "Biden won Pennsylvania. Yet people voted recently to restrict our governor on republican side of the vote. I think my state is realizing a mistake. I hear it everyday. | |||
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"Like it or hate it. The world was at peace when he was in power. Thats indisputable. Now we have all kinds of shenanigans which is irksome" Do you have any evidence for that? I was under the impression he create division and hatred whenever he spoke... or breathed... | |||
"Like it or hate it. The world was at peace when he was in power. Thats indisputable. Now we have all kinds of shenanigans which is irksome" | |||
"Like it or hate it. The world was at peace when he was in power. Thats indisputable. Now we have all kinds of shenanigans which is irksome" As he took Putins word over his own intelligence agencies in Helsinki, it’s true that World Leaders certainly saw him for what he is. Easily manipulated and a fool, even the fat lad in North Korea got one over him. | |||
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"Desantis is going to get the nod. Polls are showing the trend. Desantis with trump policy of America first. Might be a sweep in 2024." If he gets the nod from Trump it’s a certainty he’ll get the nomination. Plus Trump organisation is facing some legal issues this week with Cyrus Vance considering bring criminal charges. I think he’ll drop out but attend a lot of rallies as he loves the attention he gets. | |||
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"Desantis is going to get the nod. Polls are showing the trend. Desantis with trump policy of America first. Might be a sweep in 2024. If he gets the nod from Trump it’s a certainty he’ll get the nomination. Plus Trump organisation is facing some legal issues this week with Cyrus Vance considering bring criminal charges. I think he’ll drop out but attend a lot of rallies as he loves the attention he gets. " Yup I agree. Desantis will capitalize on his message. Nothing screams change when there is rising costs of everything. | |||
"Desantis is going to get the nod. Polls are showing the trend. Desantis with trump policy of America first. Might be a sweep in 2024. If he gets the nod from Trump it’s a certainty he’ll get the nomination. Plus Trump organisation is facing some legal issues this week with Cyrus Vance considering bring criminal charges. I think he’ll drop out but attend a lot of rallies as he loves the attention he gets. Yup I agree. Desantis will capitalize on his message. Nothing screams change when there is rising costs of everything." The Republicans have a number of years to show that they mean business and bring about change from the last few years. | |||
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"The established political class hated him. That inluded the majority of the media we are all exposed to that conspired to create and continue the narrative that he was racist, bigot ect. It was all a lie we were all fed. He created world stabilty ignoring the established military industrial complex, which was another reason they hated him as they want endless wars and endless conflict. He didnt. Under Biden, there will be more war, and more conflict." When you say he created world stability. Do you mean when he launched rocket attack on the most powerful regime in the middle east? Or when he made tensions in the west bank even worse? | |||
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"Like it or hate it. The world was at peace when he was in power. Thats indisputable. Now we have all kinds of shenanigans which is irksome "I think some people just live in la la land. | |||
"The established political class hated him. That inluded the majority of the media we are all exposed to that conspired to create and continue the narrative that he was racist, bigot ect. It was all a lie we were all fed. He created world stabilty ignoring the established military industrial complex, which was another reason they hated him as they want endless wars and endless conflict. He didnt. Under Biden, there will be more war, and more conflict. When you say he created world stability. Do you mean when he launched rocket attack on the most powerful regime in the middle east? Or when he made tensions in the west bank even worse?" Where is your evidence for this? Look at what happened as soon as he left? Is it peaceful now? Its the worst its ever been  | |||
"The established political class hated him. That inluded the majority of the media we are all exposed to that conspired to create and continue the narrative that he was racist, bigot ect. It was all a lie we were all fed. He created world stabilty ignoring the established military industrial complex, which was another reason they hated him as they want endless wars and endless conflict. He didnt. Under Biden, there will be more war, and more conflict. When you say he created world stability. Do you mean when he launched rocket attack on the most powerful regime in the middle east? Or when he made tensions in the west bank even worse?" | |||
"Like it or hate it. The world was at peace when he was in power. Thats indisputable. Now we have all kinds of shenanigans which is irksome
I think some people just live in la la land."Facts not feelings. | |||
"It’s in Trump’s best interest to ensure there’s someone in the Oval who will pardon him. Can’t wait to see his perp-walk It’s more important that he’s convicted of state rather than federal crimes. These can’t be pardoned by the pres "Convicted of what? | |||
"Like it or hate it. The world was at peace when he was in power. Thats indisputable. Now we have all kinds of shenanigans which is irksome
I think some people just live in la la land."I get that people have different opinions about politics and people. I fail to understand how anybody can still claim he did anything good for world peace. Divide and rule - an ancient motto relived. | |||
"The established political class hated him. That inluded the majority of the media we are all exposed to that conspired to create and continue the narrative that he was racist, bigot ect. It was all a lie we were all fed. He created world stabilty ignoring the established military industrial complex, which was another reason they hated him as they want endless wars and endless conflict. He didnt. Under Biden, there will be more war, and more conflict. When you say he created world stability. Do you mean when he launched rocket attack on the most powerful regime in the middle east? Or when he made tensions in the west bank even worse? Where is your evidence for this? Look at what happened as soon as he left? Is it peaceful now? Its the worst its ever been "
Evidence of what?
The missile attack on iran?
Are we now simply denying that events actually took place?
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"Like it or hate it. The world was at peace when he was in power. Thats indisputable. Now we have all kinds of shenanigans which is irksome
I think some people just live in la la land.
Facts not feelings. "That makes no sense | |||
"Like it or hate it. The world was at peace when he was in power. Thats indisputable. Now we have all kinds of shenanigans which is irksome
I think some people just live in la la land.
Facts not feelings.
That makes no sense "It means you present no evidence, but instead are using your feelings to illustrate a point. | |||
"It’s in Trump’s best interest to ensure there’s someone in the Oval who will pardon him. Can’t wait to see his perp-walk It’s more important that he’s convicted of state rather than federal crimes. These can’t be pardoned by the pres
Convicted of what?"Take your pick: insurance fraud, tax evasion, hush-money payments, illegal campaign contributions and payments, self-dealing, being an orange buffoon - tbf I think the last one is only illegal in Maine | |||
"Like it or hate it. The world was at peace when he was in power. Thats indisputable. Now we have all kinds of shenanigans which is irksome
I think some people just live in la la land.
Facts not feelings.
That makes no sense
It means you present no evidence, but instead are using your feelings to illustrate a point. "I've just provided you with evidence Does shooting immigrants in the back make the world a safer place? | |||
"The established political class hated him. That inluded the majority of the media we are all exposed to that conspired to create and continue the narrative that he was racist, bigot ect. It was all a lie we were all fed. He created world stabilty ignoring the established military industrial complex, which was another reason they hated him as they want endless wars and endless conflict. He didnt. Under Biden, there will be more war, and more conflict." Funny how you talk about the media but not the things Trump has said and done himself. Words out of his own moth that where racist and bigoted among many other things. I'd laugh at the irony of this post but you are obviously serious. But this is why I love the forums. It's such a good filter. | |||
"Like it or hate it. The world was at peace when he was in power. Thats indisputable. Now we have all kinds of shenanigans which is irksome
I think some people just live in la la land.
I get that people have different opinions about politics and people. I fail to understand how anybody can still claim he did anything good for world peace.
Divide and rule - an ancient motto relived."Removed troops from the all over the place they had no place being. | |||
"Like it or hate it. The world was at peace when he was in power. Thats indisputable. Now we have all kinds of shenanigans which is irksome
I think some people just live in la la land.
Facts not feelings.
That makes no sense
It means you present no evidence, but instead are using your feelings to illustrate a point.
I've just provided you with evidence
Does shooting immigrants in the back make the world a safer place?"Splitting children from their parents, inciting hatred and violent behaviour during rallies - what more evidence could one need? | |||
"The established political class hated him. That inluded the majority of the media we are all exposed to that conspired to create and continue the narrative that he was racist, bigot ect. It was all a lie we were all fed. He created world stabilty ignoring the established military industrial complex, which was another reason they hated him as they want endless wars and endless conflict. He didnt. Under Biden, there will be more war, and more conflict. Funny how you talk about the media but not the things Trump has said and done himself. Words out of his own moth that where racist and bigoted among many other things. I'd laugh at the irony of this post but you are obviously serious. But this is why I love the forums. It's such a good filter. Arw you kidding?? Have you seen what Biden has said?? You wont have unless you look for it because it doesnt fit the narrative. But that's your call. " | |||
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"Like it or hate it. The world was at peace when he was in power. Thats indisputable. Now we have all kinds of shenanigans which is irksome
I think some people just live in la la land.
Facts not feelings.
That makes no sense
It means you present no evidence, but instead are using your feelings to illustrate a point.
I've just provided you with evidence
Does shooting immigrants in the back make the world a safer place?
Splitting children from their parents, inciting hatred and violent behaviour during rallies - what more evidence could one need?"Ate you referring to the current admisration who has made the migrant a full blown crisis? Far worse than it ever was. Or their gaslighting roiters all over the country? | |||
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"https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51039520" Ahh the good old bbc. Never news. Always opinion. | |||
"Like it or hate it. The world was at peace when he was in power. Thats indisputable. Now we have all kinds of shenanigans which is irksome
I think some people just live in la la land.
Facts not feelings.
That makes no sense
It means you present no evidence, but instead are using your feelings to illustrate a point.
I've just provided you with evidence
Does shooting immigrants in the back make the world a safer place?
Splitting children from their parents, inciting hatred and violent behaviour during rallies - what more evidence could one need?
Ate you referring to the current admisration who has made the migrant a full blown crisis? Far worse than it ever was. Or their gaslighting roiters all over the country? "Maybe they should build a wall? | |||
"No" Then you should be | |||
"Like it or hate it. The world was at peace when he was in power. Thats indisputable. Now we have all kinds of shenanigans which is irksome
I think some people just live in la la land.
Facts not feelings.
That makes no sense
It means you present no evidence, but instead are using your feelings to illustrate a point.
I've just provided you with evidence
Does shooting immigrants in the back make the world a safer place?
Splitting children from their parents, inciting hatred and violent behaviour during rallies - what more evidence could one need?"Israel and the Gulf state of Bahrain have reached a landmark deal to fully normalise their relations, US President Donald Trump has announced. "The second Arab country to make peace with Israel in 30 days, | |||
"https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51039520 Ahh the good old bbc. Never news. Always opinion." Ha ha ha ha Fake news despite it being reported by almost every news outlet on the planet Superb | |||
"Like it or hate it. The world was at peace when he was in power. Thats indisputable. Now we have all kinds of shenanigans which is irksome
I think some people just live in la la land.
Facts not feelings.
That makes no sense
It means you present no evidence, but instead are using your feelings to illustrate a point.
I've just provided you with evidence
Does shooting immigrants in the back make the world a safer place?
Splitting children from their parents, inciting hatred and violent behaviour during rallies - what more evidence could one need?
Ate you referring to the current admisration who has made the migrant a full blown crisis? Far worse than it ever was. Or their gaslighting roiters all over the country? "I think the evidence (sources) are on this thread, plenty of it. I am not a "polarised" woman, I allow shades of grey between the black and white extremes of opinion. As such I allow even a Trump supporter that privilege of having an opinion. I do see, read and critically assess not just the media in this country or the US for that matter. Enough said. | |||
"The established political class hated him. That inluded the majority of the media we are all exposed to that conspired to create and continue the narrative that he was racist, bigot ect. It was all a lie we were all fed. He created world stabilty ignoring the established military industrial complex, which was another reason they hated him as they want endless wars and endless conflict. He didnt. Under Biden, there will be more war, and more conflict. Funny how you talk about the media but not the things Trump has said and done himself. Words out of his own moth that where racist and bigoted among many other things. I'd laugh at the irony of this post but you are obviously serious. But this is why I love the forums. It's such a good filter. Arw you kidding?? Have you seen what Biden has said?? You wont have unless you look for it because it doesnt fit the narrative. But that's your call. " True when I said you need F 15s and Nukes to take on the federal government. Did he forget Jan 6th ? Is he willing to drop a nuke on American soil? Lol he just as a big baffoon. | |||
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"https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51039520 Ahh the good old bbc. Never news. Always opinion." Or possibly just news that doesn’t align with your views. Got to love this left-wing/media narrative idea have you watched Fox, newsmax, OAN etc. now THERE’S a narrative - of utter garbage | |||
"https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51039520 Ahh the good old bbc. Never news. Always opinion. Ha ha ha ha Fake news despite it being reported by almost every news outlet on the planet Superb "If you take your news, and thus form your opinion from the bbc, then you're lost and we have nothing more to discuss. | |||
"https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51039520 Ahh the good old bbc. Never news. Always opinion. Or possibly just news that doesn’t align with your views. Got to love this left-wing/media narrative idea have you watched Fox, newsmax, OAN etc. now THERE’S a narrative - of utter garbage "Facts. Not feelings. | |||
"Like it or hate it. The world was at peace when he was in power. Thats indisputable. Now we have all kinds of shenanigans which is irksome
I think some people just live in la la land.
Facts not feelings.
That makes no sense
It means you present no evidence, but instead are using your feelings to illustrate a point.
I've just provided you with evidence
Does shooting immigrants in the back make the world a safer place?
Splitting children from their parents, inciting hatred and violent behaviour during rallies - what more evidence could one need?
Ate you referring to the current admisration who has made the migrant a full blown crisis? Far worse than it ever was. Or their gaslighting roiters all over the country?
I think the evidence (sources) are on this thread, plenty of it.
I am not a "polarised" woman, I allow shades of grey between the black and white extremes of opinion. As such I allow even a Trump supporter that privilege of having an opinion.
I do see, read and critically assess not just the media in this country or the US for that matter. Enough said. "Your words "even a trump supporter" and "i allow" are terrifying. Oh. And opinion should NEVER be a privilege as you say. It is your RIGHT. | |||
"https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51039520 Ahh the good old bbc. Never news. Always opinion. Ha ha ha ha Fake news despite it being reported by almost every news outlet on the planet Superb
If you take your news, and thus form your opinion from the bbc, then you're lost and we have nothing more to discuss. "Spoken like a true trump fan: I don’t appreciate being forced to confront reality so I’ll take my bat and ball home | |||
"The established political class hated him. That inluded the majority of the media we are all exposed to that conspired to create and continue the narrative that he was racist, bigot ect. It was all a lie we were all fed. He created world stabilty ignoring the established military industrial complex, which was another reason they hated him as they want endless wars and endless conflict. He didnt. Under Biden, there will be more war, and more conflict. Funny how you talk about the media but not the things Trump has said and done himself. Words out of his own moth that where racist and bigoted among many other things. I'd laugh at the irony of this post but you are obviously serious. But this is why I love the forums. It's such a good filter. Arw you kidding?? Have you seen what Biden has said?? You wont have unless you look for it because it doesnt fit the narrative. But that's your call. True when I said you need F 15s and Nukes to take on the federal government. Did he forget Jan 6th ? Is he willing to drop a nuke on American soil? Lol he just as a big baffoon." Agreed. He is a very dangerous idiot. | |||
"https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51039520 Ahh the good old bbc. Never news. Always opinion. Ha ha ha ha Fake news despite it being reported by almost every news outlet on the planet Superb
If you take your news, and thus form your opinion from the bbc, then you're lost and we have nothing more to discuss. "And when you just dismiss facts because you dont agree with them we are in Donald trump world. | |||
"https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51039520 Ahh the good old bbc. Never news. Always opinion. Ha ha ha ha Fake news despite it being reported by almost every news outlet on the planet Superb
If you take your news, and thus form your opinion from the bbc, then you're lost and we have nothing more to discuss.
Spoken like a true trump fan: I don’t appreciate being forced to confront reality so I’ll take my bat and ball home "Yet fox news is the most watched in the states. Weird. | |||
"https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51039520 Ahh the good old bbc. Never news. Always opinion. Ha ha ha ha Fake news despite it being reported by almost every news outlet on the planet Superb
If you take your news, and thus form your opinion from the bbc, then you're lost and we have nothing more to discuss.
Spoken like a true trump fan: I don’t appreciate being forced to confront reality so I’ll take my bat and ball home "Not a trump fan. A truth fan. They are very different. Perhaps one day you will see it too. Outlets like the bbc are not truth tellers. If think they are, then you too are lost. | |||
"https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51039520 Ahh the good old bbc. Never news. Always opinion. Ha ha ha ha Fake news despite it being reported by almost every news outlet on the planet Superb
If you take your news, and thus form your opinion from the bbc, then you're lost and we have nothing more to discuss.
And when you just dismiss facts because you dont agree with them we are in Donald trump world."One last point for you before I toddle off for a wank. If it's facts you're so precious about, then find your facts from other sources. Widen the scope. Then you'll find perhaps the world isn't quite the place you thought it was. Maybe, just maybe,the veil may lift a litle and you may find the world has been lying to you. If your cognitive dissonance will allow it. Good luck. | |||
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"Is he going to join Fab? " Would you arrange a meet if he did? | |||
"I thought he was quite funny and miss his tweets in the news. He’s definitely funnier than Boris, but I’m biased and only really interested in the comedy factor of politics " I miss his dancing. | |||
"https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51039520 Ahh the good old bbc. Never news. Always opinion. Ha ha ha ha Fake news despite it being reported by almost every news outlet on the planet Superb
If you take your news, and thus form your opinion from the bbc, then you're lost and we have nothing more to discuss.
Spoken like a true trump fan: I don’t appreciate being forced to confront reality so I’ll take my bat and ball home
Not a trump fan. A truth fan. They are very different. Perhaps one day you will see it too. Outlets like the bbc are not truth tellers. If think they are, then you too are lost. "
Yep the words truth and trump are inseparable.
Who is the truth teller btw?
The beano? | |||
"https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51039520 Ahh the good old bbc. Never news. Always opinion. Ha ha ha ha Fake news despite it being reported by almost every news outlet on the planet Superb
If you take your news, and thus form your opinion from the bbc, then you're lost and we have nothing more to discuss.
And when you just dismiss facts because you dont agree with them we are in Donald trump world.
One last point for you before I toddle off for a wank. If it's facts you're so precious about, then find your facts from other sources. Widen the scope. Then you'll find perhaps the world isn't quite the place you thought it was. Maybe, just maybe,the veil may lift a litle and you may find the world has been lying to you. If your cognitive dissonance will allow it. Good luck. "Good point. I'm off to watch some toothless redneck simpleton from Ohio on you tube and learn the real truth. | |||
"Like it or hate it. The world was at peace when he was in power. Thats indisputable. Now we have all kinds of shenanigans which is irksome
I think some people just live in la la land.
Facts not feelings.
That makes no sense
It means you present no evidence, but instead are using your feelings to illustrate a point.
I've just provided you with evidence
Does shooting immigrants in the back make the world a safer place?
Splitting children from their parents, inciting hatred and violent behaviour during rallies - what more evidence could one need?"Well, where do I start. As you well know Aphrodite I run the entire Wales business operations of North West England's answer to Donald Trump. My day was coming to a conclusion of trying to inject another dose of sanity into in my world of eccentric and irrationality on the highest level which I couldn't make up, or write into a situation comedy. So I thought I'll log on to fab, and see what amusement there is to be seen there on fab forum posts. When I saw this debate with your input, I roared laughing as I thought about our in depth conversations where we both have opposite views, but still like each other, and have the utmost respect for each other. I don't think that you would need to be Einstein to work out where my loyalties lie, but whether it's Donald, or others like him including Boris, dictators from history, and the fella I've just put the phone down on, what cannot be overlooked is that it's their single mindedness, and ambition doing things their way, or no way, shoot first, and ask questions later, and actually getting on with job their way, please or offend, that has put them in the elevated positions that they are in today, and carving a lifestyle for themselves during their allotted life span that most can only dream of. Such rare individuals, with that strength of character will always have a following, it will simply be a case of how that charisma works for them on the day that will determine whether they stay in the limelight or not. I'm rather looking forward to the next round of American elections, which I don't think will be complete without good old Donald taking a stand. Agree or disagree, listening to you making point Aphrodite is always a breath of fresh air. | |||
"Like it or hate it. The world was at peace when he was in power. Thats indisputable. Now we have all kinds of shenanigans which is irksome
I think some people just live in la la land.
Facts not feelings.
That makes no sense
It means you present no evidence, but instead are using your feelings to illustrate a point.
I've just provided you with evidence
Does shooting immigrants in the back make the world a safer place?
Splitting children from their parents, inciting hatred and violent behaviour during rallies - what more evidence could one need?
Well, where do I start. As you well know Aphrodite I run the entire Wales business operations of North West England's answer to Donald Trump. My day was coming to a conclusion of trying to inject another dose of sanity into in my world of eccentric and irrationality on the highest level which I couldn't make up, or write into a situation comedy. So I thought I'll log on to fab, and see what amusement there is to be seen there on fab forum posts. When I saw this debate with your input, I roared laughing as I thought about our in depth conversations where we both have opposite views, but still like each other, and have the utmost respect for each other.
I don't think that you would need to be Einstein to work out where my loyalties lie, but whether it's Donald, or others like him including Boris, dictators from history, and the fella I've just put the phone down on, what cannot be overlooked is that it's their single mindedness, and ambition doing things their way, or no way, shoot first, and ask questions later, and actually getting on with job their way, please or offend, that has put them in the elevated positions that they are in today, and carving a lifestyle for themselves during their allotted life span that most can only dream of. Such rare individuals, with that strength of character will always have a following, it will simply be a case of how that charisma works for them on the day that will determine whether they stay in the limelight or not. I'm rather looking forward to the next round of American elections, which I don't think will be complete without good old Donald taking a stand. Agree or disagree, listening to you making point Aphrodite is always a breath of fresh air. "I do respect different views - quite right! Mind you, I am single-minded regarding what red wine I like!  | |||
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"Like it or hate it. The world was at peace when he was in power. Thats indisputable. Now we have all kinds of shenanigans which is irksome
I think some people just live in la la land.
Facts not feelings.
That makes no sense
It means you present no evidence, but instead are using your feelings to illustrate a point.
I've just provided you with evidence
Does shooting immigrants in the back make the world a safer place?
Splitting children from their parents, inciting hatred and violent behaviour during rallies - what more evidence could one need?
Well, where do I start. As you well know Aphrodite I run the entire Wales business operations of North West England's answer to Donald Trump. My day was coming to a conclusion of trying to inject another dose of sanity into in my world of eccentric and irrationality on the highest level which I couldn't make up, or write into a situation comedy. So I thought I'll log on to fab, and see what amusement there is to be seen there on fab forum posts. When I saw this debate with your input, I roared laughing as I thought about our in depth conversations where we both have opposite views, but still like each other, and have the utmost respect for each other.
I don't think that you would need to be Einstein to work out where my loyalties lie, but whether it's Donald, or others like him including Boris, dictators from history, and the fella I've just put the phone down on, what cannot be overlooked is that it's their single mindedness, and ambition doing things their way, or no way, shoot first, and ask questions later, and actually getting on with job their way, please or offend, that has put them in the elevated positions that they are in today, and carving a lifestyle for themselves during their allotted life span that most can only dream of. Such rare individuals, with that strength of character will always have a following, it will simply be a case of how that charisma works for them on the day that will determine whether they stay in the limelight or not. I'm rather looking forward to the next round of American elections, which I don't think will be complete without good old Donald taking a stand. Agree or disagree, listening to you making point Aphrodite is always a breath of fresh air.
I do respect different views - quite right!
Mind you, I am single-minded regarding what red wine I like! "And far be it from me to deny you the wine of your choice next time at Miller and Carter. XX | |||
"People thought he would never be elected the first time. Don’t write him off in this era of ridiculous politics. " Old joe has been as spectacular as a fireworks show that can't light the fuses. | |||
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"Better than the shitshow before him." Nah it's like those old silent movies. Drama and que cards. Nothing of substance. | |||
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"People thought he would never be elected the first time. Don’t write him off in this era of ridiculous politics. Old joe has been as spectacular as a fireworks show that can't light the fuses." Biden is clueless, but he still thrashed Trump, has Donald learnt how to put his trousers on the right way ? | |||
"People thought he would never be elected the first time. Don’t write him off in this era of ridiculous politics. Old joe has been as spectacular as a fireworks show that can't light the fuses. Biden is clueless, but he still thrashed Trump, has Donald learnt how to put his trousers on the right way ? " Lol true. | |||
"People thought he would never be elected the first time. Don’t write him off in this era of ridiculous politics. Old joe has been as spectacular as a fireworks show that can't light the fuses. Biden is clueless, but he still thrashed Trump, has Donald learnt how to put his trousers on the right way ? Lol true." Maybe trump needs to hire Bidens handlers. | |||
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"People thought he would never be elected the first time. Don’t write him off in this era of ridiculous politics. Old joe has been as spectacular as a fireworks show that can't light the fuses. Biden is clueless, but he still thrashed Trump, has Donald learnt how to put his trousers on the right way ? Lol true. Maybe trump needs to hire Bidens handlers." Bidens ‘handlers ‘ only work with winners | |||
"People thought he would never be elected the first time. Don’t write him off in this era of ridiculous politics. Old joe has been as spectacular as a fireworks show that can't light the fuses. Biden is clueless, but he still thrashed Trump, has Donald learnt how to put his trousers on the right way ? " Biden hasn’t trashed anyone since cornpop, aside from trashing the intelligence of minorities each time he strays off the provided cue cards and speaks his mind. The liberal media and those who wish to empower the evil in the world rallied against Trump because he offended them. I personally don’t want him back, but his actions against the shittiest countries, movements and initiatives in the world I have no problem with. | |||
"People thought he would never be elected the first time. Don’t write him off in this era of ridiculous politics. Old joe has been as spectacular as a fireworks show that can't light the fuses. Biden is clueless, but he still thrashed Trump, has Donald learnt how to put his trousers on the right way ? Biden hasn’t trashed anyone since cornpop, aside from trashing the intelligence of minorities each time he strays off the provided cue cards and speaks his mind. The liberal media and those who wish to empower the evil in the world rallied against Trump because he offended them. I personally don’t want him back, but his actions against the shittiest countries, movements and initiatives in the world I have no problem with. " Biden thrashed Trump, fact | |||
"One thing Trump presidency has shown is how corrupt big tech and MSM are. I’m not a Trump fan but what I do see is how fixed the cards are if you’re not part of theIr plan. The fact that they threw everything at him and still haven’t got anything to stick shows how utterly incompetent they are or how Trump is on the right path. Imagine if they’d thrown the same amount of scrutiny at Biden..... Christ look how big tech and MSM buried Hunter Biden laptop story. Could the Biden family be any more compromised.... imagine if it was Trump’s son laptop.... that hypocrisy/censorship in itself must tell you something isn’t right. From what I can gather before Covid America was on its best footing for a long while. I watched the election live and for all those postal votes to come in at the last min in those swing states.... just doesn’t ring true to me. The worrying thing is the U.K. is usually just behind the states so if they can get away with it there chances are it’s going to happen here. Tbh I think if already is "Wasnt trump very close to Murdoch? | |||
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"One thing Trump presidency has shown is how corrupt big tech and MSM are. I’m not a Trump fan but what I do see is how fixed the cards are if you’re not part of theIr plan. The fact that they threw everything at him and still haven’t got anything to stick shows how utterly incompetent they are or how Trump is on the right path. Imagine if they’d thrown the same amount of scrutiny at Biden..... Christ look how big tech and MSM buried Hunter Biden laptop story. Could the Biden family be any more compromised.... imagine if it was Trump’s son laptop.... that hypocrisy/censorship in itself must tell you something isn’t right. From what I can gather before Covid America was on its best footing for a long while. I watched the election live and for all those postal votes to come in at the last min in those swing states.... just doesn’t ring true to me. The worrying thing is the U.K. is usually just behind the states so if they can get away with it there chances are it’s going to happen here. Tbh I think if already is "Completely agree. Its frightening. | |||
"No criminal charges." 
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"No criminal charges.
Quite right. " | |||
"People thought he would never be elected the first time. Don’t write him off in this era of ridiculous politics. Old joe has been as spectacular as a fireworks show that can't light the fuses. Biden is clueless, but he still thrashed Trump, has Donald learnt how to put his trousers on the right way ? Biden hasn’t trashed anyone since cornpop, aside from trashing the intelligence of minorities each time he strays off the provided cue cards and speaks his mind. The liberal media and those who wish to empower the evil in the world rallied against Trump because he offended them. I personally don’t want him back, but his actions against the shittiest countries, movements and initiatives in the world I have no problem with. " There were lots of reasons why he was and still is, so dispised, so lied about, so smeared, and so fought against. For those reasons alone he should be listened to. | |||
"One thing Trump presidency has shown is how corrupt big tech and MSM are. I’m not a Trump fan but what I do see is how fixed the cards are if you’re not part of theIr plan. The fact that they threw everything at him and still haven’t got anything to stick shows how utterly incompetent they are or how Trump is on the right path. Imagine if they’d thrown the same amount of scrutiny at Biden..... Christ look how big tech and MSM buried Hunter Biden laptop story. Could the Biden family be any more compromised.... imagine if it was Trump’s son laptop.... that hypocrisy/censorship in itself must tell you something isn’t right. From what I can gather before Covid America was on its best footing for a long while. I watched the election live and for all those postal votes to come in at the last min in those swing states.... just doesn’t ring true to me. The worrying thing is the U.K. is usually just behind the states so if they can get away with it there chances are it’s going to happen here. Tbh I think if already is
Wasnt trump very close to Murdoch?"Everyone is close to Murdoch. | |||
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"The established political class hated him. That inluded the majority of the media we are all exposed to that conspired to create and continue the narrative that he was racist, bigot ect. It was all a lie we were all fed. He created world stabilty ignoring the established military industrial complex, which was another reason they hated him as they want endless wars and endless conflict. He didnt. Under Biden, there will be more war, and more conflict. Funny how you talk about the media but not the things Trump has said and done himself. Words out of his own moth that where racist and bigoted among many other things. I'd laugh at the irony of this post but you are obviously serious. But this is why I love the forums. It's such a good filter. One example. Just give one example of something he said that was racist. Ill wait here. " | |||
"One thing Trump presidency has shown is how corrupt big tech and MSM are. I’m not a Trump fan but what I do see is how fixed the cards are if you’re not part of theIr plan. The fact that they threw everything at him and still haven’t got anything to stick shows how utterly incompetent they are or how Trump is on the right path. Imagine if they’d thrown the same amount of scrutiny at Biden..... Christ look how big tech and MSM buried Hunter Biden laptop story. Could the Biden family be any more compromised.... imagine if it was Trump’s son laptop.... that hypocrisy/censorship in itself must tell you something isn’t right. From what I can gather before Covid America was on its best footing for a long while. I watched the election live and for all those postal votes to come in at the last min in those swing states.... just doesn’t ring true to me. The worrying thing is the U.K. is usually just behind the states so if they can get away with it there chances are it’s going to happen here. Tbh I think if already is
Wasnt trump very close to Murdoch?
Everyone is close to Murdoch. "No they arent. | |||
"There is no return of trump to any kind of power position in government, thank goodness ! Trumps completely dismal performance as president, his over 20,000 confirmed lies and misleading statements, his over 215 confirmed indictments and still counting against the cronies he hired for his campaign and for government positions, his public racist statements and white supremacy sympathy, his blatant disregard for the democratic rule of law and dictator attitude, his Psychopathic Behavioral Characteristics, ect...ect... . All of this, and still more to come, has already sealed his fate in granite as the worst US president in our nations history by the congressional historians ! A Legacy Of Disgrace Well Deserved !" Desantis is polling better than trump. No worries. | |||
"There is no return of trump to any kind of power position in government, thank goodness ! Trumps completely dismal performance as president, his over 20,000 confirmed lies and misleading statements, his over 215 confirmed indictments and still counting against the cronies he hired for his campaign and for government positions, his public racist statements and white supremacy sympathy, his blatant disregard for the democratic rule of law and dictator attitude, his Psychopathic Behavioral Characteristics, ect...ect... . All of this, and still more to come, has already sealed his fate in granite as the worst US president in our nations history by the congressional historians ! A Legacy Of Disgrace Well Deserved ! Desantis is polling better than trump. No worries." Desantis is Trump on steroids.So if trump endorsed him well it be good times. I think the ploy going to be if trump gets charged endorses desantis. Desantis gets in and pardons Trump. Minds would explode gray matter everywhere. | |||
"There is no return of trump to any kind of power position in government, thank goodness ! Trumps completely dismal performance as president, his over 20,000 confirmed lies and misleading statements, his over 215 confirmed indictments and still counting against the cronies he hired for his campaign and for government positions, his public racist statements and white supremacy sympathy, his blatant disregard for the democratic rule of law and dictator attitude, his Psychopathic Behavioral Characteristics, ect...ect... . All of this, and still more to come, has already sealed his fate in granite as the worst US president in our nations history by the congressional historians ! A Legacy Of Disgrace Well Deserved ! Desantis is polling better than trump. No worries. Desantis is Trump on steroids.So if trump endorsed him well it be good times. I think the ploy going to be if trump gets charged endorses desantis. Desantis gets in and pardons Trump. Minds would explode gray matter everywhere."  | |||
"One thing Trump presidency has shown is how corrupt big tech and MSM are. I’m not a Trump fan but what I do see is how fixed the cards are if you’re not part of theIr plan. The fact that they threw everything at him and still haven’t got anything to stick shows how utterly incompetent they are or how Trump is on the right path. Imagine if they’d thrown the same amount of scrutiny at Biden..... Christ look how big tech and MSM buried Hunter Biden laptop story. Could the Biden family be any more compromised.... imagine if it was Trump’s son laptop.... that hypocrisy/censorship in itself must tell you something isn’t right. From what I can gather before Covid America was on its best footing for a long while. I watched the election live and for all those postal votes to come in at the last min in those swing states.... just doesn’t ring true to me. The worrying thing is the U.K. is usually just behind the states so if they can get away with it there chances are it’s going to happen here. Tbh I think if already is
Wasnt trump very close to Murdoch?
Everyone is close to Murdoch.
No they arent."Dude. You have no idea how far his tenticles reach. Fox is only one of his outlets if thats what you're referring to. Every western politician needs Murdoch and actively seeks approval from newscorp. | |||
"The established political class hated him. That inluded the majority of the media we are all exposed to that conspired to create and continue the narrative that he was racist, bigot ect. It was all a lie we were all fed. He created world stabilty ignoring the established military industrial complex, which was another reason they hated him as they want endless wars and endless conflict. He didnt. Under Biden, there will be more war, and more conflict. Funny how you talk about the media but not the things Trump has said and done himself. Words out of his own moth that where racist and bigoted among many other things. I'd laugh at the irony of this post but you are obviously serious. But this is why I love the forums. It's such a good filter. Arw you kidding?? Have you seen what Biden has said?? You wont have unless you look for it because it doesnt fit the narrative. But that's your call. " I can play logical fallacies bingo with your response. If you choose to make all your responses based on presumptions and suppositions, not exactly grounds for a "debate" is it? Biden's a joke. Trump was a much bigger more dangerous joke. That's all you need to know. It should be clear to all the only one with a narrative here is you! | |||
"The established political class hated him. That inluded the majority of the media we are all exposed to that conspired to create and continue the narrative that he was racist, bigot ect. It was all a lie we were all fed. He created world stabilty ignoring the established military industrial complex, which was another reason they hated him as they want endless wars and endless conflict. He didnt. Under Biden, there will be more war, and more conflict. Funny how you talk about the media but not the things Trump has said and done himself. Words out of his own moth that where racist and bigoted among many other things. I'd laugh at the irony of this post but you are obviously serious. But this is why I love the forums. It's such a good filter. Arw you kidding?? Have you seen what Biden has said?? You wont have unless you look for it because it doesnt fit the narrative. But that's your call. I can play logical fallacies bingo with your response. If you choose to make all your responses based on presumptions and suppositions, not exactly grounds for a "debate" is it? Biden's a joke. Trump was a much bigger more dangerous joke. That's all you need to know. It should be clear to all the only one with a narrative here is you! " Your response makes no sense. I mean it's articulate. But it makes no sense. I also assume judging by your words, that you, also havnt seen what Biden has said. Otherwise you wouldn't have responded with such illogical nonsense. Who said this ? "“Poor kids” just as bright as “white kids" or this..." Put y’all back in chains” or this ..."Obama is "the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean”? Because for all his faults, it wasn't trump. | |||
"The established political class hated him. That inluded the majority of the media we are all exposed to that conspired to create and continue the narrative that he was racist, bigot ect. It was all a lie we were all fed. He created world stabilty ignoring the established military industrial complex, which was another reason they hated him as they want endless wars and endless conflict. He didnt. Under Biden, there will be more war, and more conflict. Funny how you talk about the media but not the things Trump has said and done himself. Words out of his own moth that where racist and bigoted among many other things. I'd laugh at the irony of this post but you are obviously serious. But this is why I love the forums. It's such a good filter. Arw you kidding?? Have you seen what Biden has said?? You wont have unless you look for it because it doesnt fit the narrative. But that's your call. I can play logical fallacies bingo with your response. If you choose to make all your responses based on presumptions and suppositions, not exactly grounds for a "debate" is it? Biden's a joke. Trump was a much bigger more dangerous joke. That's all you need to know. It should be clear to all the only one with a narrative here is you! Your response makes no sense. I mean it's articulate. But it makes no sense. I also assume judging by your words, that you, also havnt seen what Biden has said. Otherwise you wouldn't have responded with such illogical nonsense. Who said this ? "“Poor kids” just as bright as “white kids" or this..." Put y’all back in chains” or this ..."Obama is "the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean”? Because for all his faults, it wasn't trump. " You forgot the F15s and nukes quote. The Taliban and Vietcong probably laughed themselves silly. | |||
"One thing Trump presidency has shown is how corrupt big tech and MSM are. I’m not a Trump fan but what I do see is how fixed the cards are if you’re not part of theIr plan. The fact that they threw everything at him and still haven’t got anything to stick shows how utterly incompetent they are or how Trump is on the right path. Imagine if they’d thrown the same amount of scrutiny at Biden..... Christ look how big tech and MSM buried Hunter Biden laptop story. Could the Biden family be any more compromised.... imagine if it was Trump’s son laptop.... that hypocrisy/censorship in itself must tell you something isn’t right. From what I can gather before Covid America was on its best footing for a long while. I watched the election live and for all those postal votes to come in at the last min in those swing states.... just doesn’t ring true to me. The worrying thing is the U.K. is usually just behind the states so if they can get away with it there chances are it’s going to happen here. Tbh I think if already is
Wasnt trump very close to Murdoch?
Everyone is close to Murdoch.
No they arent.
Dude. You have no idea how far his tenticles reach. Fox is only one of his outlets if thats what you're referring to. Every western politician needs Murdoch and actively seeks approval from newscorp. "Right ..so to clarify.. The.msn had it in for a man who was bessies with the most powerful media mogul on the planet? | |||
"One thing Trump presidency has shown is how corrupt big tech and MSM are. I’m not a Trump fan but what I do see is how fixed the cards are if you’re not part of theIr plan. The fact that they threw everything at him and still haven’t got anything to stick shows how utterly incompetent they are or how Trump is on the right path. Imagine if they’d thrown the same amount of scrutiny at Biden..... Christ look how big tech and MSM buried Hunter Biden laptop story. Could the Biden family be any more compromised.... imagine if it was Trump’s son laptop.... that hypocrisy/censorship in itself must tell you something isn’t right. From what I can gather before Covid America was on its best footing for a long while. I watched the election live and for all those postal votes to come in at the last min in those swing states.... just doesn’t ring true to me. The worrying thing is the U.K. is usually just behind the states so if they can get away with it there chances are it’s going to happen here. Tbh I think if already is
Wasnt trump very close to Murdoch?
Everyone is close to Murdoch.
No they arent.
Dude. You have no idea how far his tenticles reach. Fox is only one of his outlets if thats what you're referring to. Every western politician needs Murdoch and actively seeks approval from newscorp.
Right ..so to clarify.. The.msn had it in for a man who was bessies with the most powerful media mogul on the planet?"A) The only Murdoch outlet pro trump was Fox. B) not bessies. Not even close dude. C) media has changed. The most powerful outlets are now in the hands of big tech. Fb & Twitter who actively colluded against him, and supressed anything for him. Do you know who Hunter biden is? And what happened with his laptop just before the election? Amd what big tech did to silence and supress news about it? | |||
"One thing Trump presidency has shown is how corrupt big tech and MSM are. I’m not a Trump fan but what I do see is how fixed the cards are if you’re not part of theIr plan. The fact that they threw everything at him and still haven’t got anything to stick shows how utterly incompetent they are or how Trump is on the right path. Imagine if they’d thrown the same amount of scrutiny at Biden..... Christ look how big tech and MSM buried Hunter Biden laptop story. Could the Biden family be any more compromised.... imagine if it was Trump’s son laptop.... that hypocrisy/censorship in itself must tell you something isn’t right. From what I can gather before Covid America was on its best footing for a long while. I watched the election live and for all those postal votes to come in at the last min in those swing states.... just doesn’t ring true to me. The worrying thing is the U.K. is usually just behind the states so if they can get away with it there chances are it’s going to happen here. Tbh I think if already is
Wasnt trump very close to Murdoch?
Everyone is close to Murdoch.
No they arent.
Dude. You have no idea how far his tenticles reach. Fox is only one of his outlets if thats what you're referring to. Every western politician needs Murdoch and actively seeks approval from newscorp.
Right ..so to clarify.. The.msn had it in for a man who was bessies with the most powerful media mogul on the planet?
A) The only Murdoch outlet pro trump was Fox.
B) not bessies. Not even close dude.
C) media has changed. The most powerful outlets are now in the hands of big tech. Fb & Twitter who actively colluded against him, and supressed anything for him. Do you know who Hunter biden is? And what happened with his laptop just before the election? Amd what big tech did to silence and supress news about it?"So does fox not count as msn now then. Explain to me how twitter collued against him | |||
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"One thing Trump presidency has shown is how corrupt big tech and MSM are. I’m not a Trump fan but what I do see is how fixed the cards are if you’re not part of theIr plan. The fact that they threw everything at him and still haven’t got anything to stick shows how utterly incompetent they are or how Trump is on the right path. Imagine if they’d thrown the same amount of scrutiny at Biden..... Christ look how big tech and MSM buried Hunter Biden laptop story. Could the Biden family be any more compromised.... imagine if it was Trump’s son laptop.... that hypocrisy/censorship in itself must tell you something isn’t right. From what I can gather before Covid America was on its best footing for a long while. I watched the election live and for all those postal votes to come in at the last min in those swing states.... just doesn’t ring true to me. The worrying thing is the U.K. is usually just behind the states so if they can get away with it there chances are it’s going to happen here. Tbh I think if already is
Wasnt trump very close to Murdoch?
Everyone is close to Murdoch.
No they arent.
Dude. You have no idea how far his tenticles reach. Fox is only one of his outlets if thats what you're referring to. Every western politician needs Murdoch and actively seeks approval from newscorp.
Right ..so to clarify.. The.msn had it in for a man who was bessies with the most powerful media mogul on the planet?
A) The only Murdoch outlet pro trump was Fox.
B) not bessies. Not even close dude.
C) media has changed. The most powerful outlets are now in the hands of big tech. Fb & Twitter who actively colluded against him, and supressed anything for him. Do you know who Hunter biden is? And what happened with his laptop just before the election? Amd what big tech did to silence and supress news about it?
So does fox not count as msn now then.
Explain to me how twitter collued against him
"Twitter: banned the New York Post story they broke about Hunter Biden. And then anyone who mentioned it. They finally relented AFTER the election. Twitter: they flagged his posts as posts as potentially misleading without any evidence. Twitter: used dubiois fact checkers linked to trumps oppostion. Twitter: banned anyone with views they didn't like or who put trump in a remotely positive light. Such as project veritas or Judicial Watch. Removed posts at the direction of the democatats in the run up to the elections. This came out only today. The list goes on. And they all worked in direct conjunction with FB and Google. | |||
"One thing Trump presidency has shown is how corrupt big tech and MSM are. I’m not a Trump fan but what I do see is how fixed the cards are if you’re not part of theIr plan. The fact that they threw everything at him and still haven’t got anything to stick shows how utterly incompetent they are or how Trump is on the right path. Imagine if they’d thrown the same amount of scrutiny at Biden..... Christ look how big tech and MSM buried Hunter Biden laptop story. Could the Biden family be any more compromised.... imagine if it was Trump’s son laptop.... that hypocrisy/censorship in itself must tell you something isn’t right. From what I can gather before Covid America was on its best footing for a long while. I watched the election live and for all those postal votes to come in at the last min in those swing states.... just doesn’t ring true to me. The worrying thing is the U.K. is usually just behind the states so if they can get away with it there chances are it’s going to happen here. Tbh I think if already is
Wasnt trump very close to Murdoch?
Everyone is close to Murdoch.
No they arent.
Dude. You have no idea how far his tenticles reach. Fox is only one of his outlets if thats what you're referring to. Every western politician needs Murdoch and actively seeks approval from newscorp.
Right ..so to clarify.. The.msn had it in for a man who was bessies with the most powerful media mogul on the planet?
A) The only Murdoch outlet pro trump was Fox.
B) not bessies. Not even close dude.
C) media has changed. The most powerful outlets are now in the hands of big tech. Fb & Twitter who actively colluded against him, and supressed anything for him. Do you know who Hunter biden is? And what happened with his laptop just before the election? Amd what big tech did to silence and supress news about it?
So does fox not count as msn now then.
Explain to me how twitter collued against him
Twitter: banned the New York Post story they broke about Hunter Biden. And then anyone who mentioned it. They finally relented AFTER the election. Twitter: they flagged his posts as posts as potentially misleading without any evidence. Twitter: used dubiois fact checkers linked to trumps oppostion. Twitter: banned anyone with views they didn't like or who put trump in a remotely positive light. Such as project veritas or Judicial Watch. Removed posts at the direction of the democatats in the run up to the elections. This came out only today. The list goes on. And they all worked in direct conjunction with FB and Google. "Didnt Twitter start doing that when he started saying the election was rigged? | |||
"One thing Trump presidency has shown is how corrupt big tech and MSM are. I’m not a Trump fan but what I do see is how fixed the cards are if you’re not part of theIr plan. The fact that they threw everything at him and still haven’t got anything to stick shows how utterly incompetent they are or how Trump is on the right path. Imagine if they’d thrown the same amount of scrutiny at Biden..... Christ look how big tech and MSM buried Hunter Biden laptop story. Could the Biden family be any more compromised.... imagine if it was Trump’s son laptop.... that hypocrisy/censorship in itself must tell you something isn’t right. From what I can gather before Covid America was on its best footing for a long while. I watched the election live and for all those postal votes to come in at the last min in those swing states.... just doesn’t ring true to me. The worrying thing is the U.K. is usually just behind the states so if they can get away with it there chances are it’s going to happen here. Tbh I think if already is
Wasnt trump very close to Murdoch?
Everyone is close to Murdoch.
No they arent.
Dude. You have no idea how far his tenticles reach. Fox is only one of his outlets if thats what you're referring to. Every western politician needs Murdoch and actively seeks approval from newscorp.
Right ..so to clarify.. The.msn had it in for a man who was bessies with the most powerful media mogul on the planet?
A) The only Murdoch outlet pro trump was Fox.
B) not bessies. Not even close dude.
C) media has changed. The most powerful outlets are now in the hands of big tech. Fb & Twitter who actively colluded against him, and supressed anything for him. Do you know who Hunter biden is? And what happened with his laptop just before the election? Amd what big tech did to silence and supress news about it?
So does fox not count as msn now then.
Explain to me how twitter collued against him
Twitter: banned the New York Post story they broke about Hunter Biden. And then anyone who mentioned it. They finally relented AFTER the election. Twitter: they flagged his posts as posts as potentially misleading without any evidence. Twitter: used dubiois fact checkers linked to trumps oppostion. Twitter: banned anyone with views they didn't like or who put trump in a remotely positive light. Such as project veritas or Judicial Watch. Removed posts at the direction of the democatats in the run up to the elections. This came out only today. The list goes on. And they all worked in direct conjunction with FB and Google.
Didnt Twitter start doing that when he started saying the election was rigged?"Long before. The hunter story for example was months prior to the elections. | |||
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"Trump had the perfect message for us. Basically it was a fuck all we going to do what is in our national interest. Kudos. The media portrays him as a villian. Desantis is the norm. He has the fortitude to see Trump's message of America first. Nothing wrong with carrying that message. Desantis is more bulletproof." Trump interests was to himself like most right wing populist politicians. The trick is convincing enough people he actually puts the country 1st. How anyone can actually believe that after the Capitol shenanigans is beyond me. He would have burnt the country down to get another 4 years. | |||
"Trump had the perfect message for us. Basically it was a fuck all we going to do what is in our national interest. Kudos. The media portrays him as a villian. Desantis is the norm. He has the fortitude to see Trump's message of America first. Nothing wrong with carrying that message. Desantis is more bulletproof. Trump interests was to himself like most right wing populist politicians. The trick is convincing enough people he actually puts the country 1st. How anyone can actually believe that after the Capitol shenanigans is beyond me. He would have burnt the country down to get another 4 years." And yet you focus on 1 man. Really it is kind of silly. States have their own constitutional authority. Blame 1 man. Media hype much ? | |||
"Is he going to join Fab? " | |||
"Trump had the perfect message for us. Basically it was a fuck all we going to do what is in our national interest. Kudos. The media portrays him as a villian. Desantis is the norm. He has the fortitude to see Trump's message of America first. Nothing wrong with carrying that message. Desantis is more bulletproof. Trump interests was to himself like most right wing populist politicians. The trick is convincing enough people he actually puts the country 1st. How anyone can actually believe that after the Capitol shenanigans is beyond me. He would have burnt the country down to get another 4 years. And yet you focus on 1 man. Really it is kind of silly. States have their own constitutional authority. Blame 1 man. Media hype much ?" He was the president | |||
"Trump had the perfect message for us. Basically it was a fuck all we going to do what is in our national interest. Kudos. The media portrays him as a villian. Desantis is the norm. He has the fortitude to see Trump's message of America first. Nothing wrong with carrying that message. Desantis is more bulletproof. Trump interests was to himself like most right wing populist politicians. The trick is convincing enough people he actually puts the country 1st. How anyone can actually believe that after the Capitol shenanigans is beyond me. He would have burnt the country down to get another 4 years. And yet you focus on 1 man. Really it is kind of silly. States have their own constitutional authority. Blame 1 man. Media hype much ?" Well since everyone on the other side is blaming Biden for everything isn’t that a bit rich….. | |||
"Trump had the perfect message for us. Basically it was a fuck all we going to do what is in our national interest. Kudos. The media portrays him as a villian. Desantis is the norm. He has the fortitude to see Trump's message of America first. Nothing wrong with carrying that message. Desantis is more bulletproof. Trump interests was to himself like most right wing populist politicians. The trick is convincing enough people he actually puts the country 1st. How anyone can actually believe that after the Capitol shenanigans is beyond me. He would have burnt the country down to get another 4 years. And yet you focus on 1 man. Really it is kind of silly. States have their own constitutional authority. Blame 1 man. Media hype much ? Well since everyone on the other side is blaming Biden for everything isn’t that a bit rich….." This ^^ | |||
"Trump had the perfect message for us. Basically it was a fuck all we going to do what is in our national interest. Kudos. The media portrays him as a villian. Desantis is the norm. He has the fortitude to see Trump's message of America first. Nothing wrong with carrying that message. Desantis is more bulletproof. Trump interests was to himself like most right wing populist politicians. The trick is convincing enough people he actually puts the country 1st. How anyone can actually believe that after the Capitol shenanigans is beyond me. He would have burnt the country down to get another 4 years. And yet you focus on 1 man. Really it is kind of silly. States have their own constitutional authority. Blame 1 man. Media hype much ? Well since everyone on the other side is blaming Biden for everything isn’t that a bit rich….." Biden is the president of course everyone going to blame him.just like any other sitting president.Instead of where the blame should go. | |||
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"His supporters are convinced he can do it again, thats half the battle, the other half is getting the donors to pour money into his campaign. Once that is done 2024 may be his 2nd term." Polls trending for Desantis. | |||
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"Been indited" No. He hasn't. Look behind the headlines. | |||
"To be honest, the word on the street in the US is not always the word you get published in the UK media. Trump is still very popular and many people seem to want him back - not for him as a person but so many already dislike Biden that much. If he stepped down and let Kamala in, it would be a far more interesting contest. Yes, the gulf between media reports in the UK and US media always surprises me. He still has an astonishingly good level of support on the ground - the election wasn't exactly a landslide for Biden." I think Biden had the same college votes as trump when he won, no? | |||
"Been indited No. He hasn't. Look behind the headlines. " Right. | |||
"The established political class hated him. That inluded the majority of the media we are all exposed to that conspired to create and continue the narrative that he was racist, bigot ect. It was all a lie we were all fed. He created world stabilty ignoring the established military industrial complex, which was another reason they hated him as they want endless wars and endless conflict. He didnt. Under Biden, there will be more war, and more conflict. Funny how you talk about the media but not the things Trump has said and done himself. Words out of his own moth that where racist and bigoted among many other things. I'd laugh at the irony of this post but you are obviously serious. But this is why I love the forums. It's such a good filter. Arw you kidding?? Have you seen what Biden has said?? You wont have unless you look for it because it doesnt fit the narrative. But that's your call. I can play logical fallacies bingo with your response. If you choose to make all your responses based on presumptions and suppositions, not exactly grounds for a "debate" is it? Biden's a joke. Trump was a much bigger more dangerous joke. That's all you need to know. It should be clear to all the only one with a narrative here is you! " Why is Biden a joke ? | |||
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"Did you all miss the cspan survey of presidents…. 150 presidential historians and biographers were asked to rank the presidents in order from best to worst… Trump…. 4th worst! Lol oh dear!!!!!! "https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/01/politics/voting-rights-act-supreme-court-ruling/index.html Thanks scotus | |||
"Did you all miss the cspan survey of presidents…. 150 presidential historians and biographers were asked to rank the presidents in order from best to worst… Trump…. 4th worst! Lol oh dear!!!!!!
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/01/politics/voting-rights-act-supreme-court-ruling/index.html
Thanks scotus "Arizona voting right act is going to come back to bite republicans on the ass as actually about 75% of all people who vote there do so by mail in… and they have the systems down pat…. This will end up eating into your own vote … It’s not as innately as racially targeted as the Georgia or Texas voting rights bills…. Arizona republicans are a different breed of crazy! And since you threw that in, let me lob one back did you see the federal courts have blocked Florida from enacting the social media law….. | |||
"Did you all miss the cspan survey of presidents…. 150 presidential historians and biographers were asked to rank the presidents in order from best to worst… Trump…. 4th worst! Lol oh dear!!!!!! "As high as that? has he learnt how to put his trousers on the right way ? | |||
"Did you all miss the cspan survey of presidents…. 150 presidential historians and biographers were asked to rank the presidents in order from best to worst… Trump…. 4th worst! Lol oh dear!!!!!!
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/01/politics/voting-rights-act-supreme-court-ruling/index.html
Thanks scotus
Arizona voting right act is going to come back to bite republicans on the ass as actually about 75% of all people who vote there do so by mail in… and they have the systems down pat….
This will end up eating into your own vote …
It’s not as innately as racially targeted as the Georgia or Texas voting rights bills…. Arizona republicans are a different breed of crazy!
And since you threw that in, let me lob one back did you see the federal courts have blocked Florida from enacting the social media law….."I seen the injunction. It's just a process it will end up in scotus laps eventually. | |||
"Did you all miss the cspan survey of presidents…. 150 presidential historians and biographers were asked to rank the presidents in order from best to worst… Trump…. 4th worst! Lol oh dear!!!!!!
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/01/politics/voting-rights-act-supreme-court-ruling/index.html
Thanks scotus
Arizona voting right act is going to come back to bite republicans on the ass as actually about 75% of all people who vote there do so by mail in… and they have the systems down pat….
This will end up eating into your own vote …
It’s not as innately as racially targeted as the Georgia or Texas voting rights bills…. Arizona republicans are a different breed of crazy!
And since you threw that in, let me lob one back did you see the federal courts have blocked Florida from enacting the social media law…..
I seen the injunction. It's just a process it will end up in scotus laps eventually."Like the voter fraud allegations?  | |||
"Did you all miss the cspan survey of presidents…. 150 presidential historians and biographers were asked to rank the presidents in order from best to worst… Trump…. 4th worst! Lol oh dear!!!!!!
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/01/politics/voting-rights-act-supreme-court-ruling/index.html
Thanks scotus
Arizona voting right act is going to come back to bite republicans on the ass as actually about 75% of all people who vote there do so by mail in… and they have the systems down pat….
This will end up eating into your own vote …
It’s not as innately as racially targeted as the Georgia or Texas voting rights bills…. Arizona republicans are a different breed of crazy!
And since you threw that in, let me lob one back did you see the federal courts have blocked Florida from enacting the social media law…..
I seen the injunction. It's just a process it will end up in scotus laps eventually.
Like the voter fraud allegations? "Umm no Clarence Thomas is eager to discuss social media. More then likely it will head to scotus. | |||
"Did you all miss the cspan survey of presidents…. 150 presidential historians and biographers were asked to rank the presidents in order from best to worst… Trump…. 4th worst! Lol oh dear!!!!!!
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/01/politics/voting-rights-act-supreme-court-ruling/index.html
Thanks scotus
Arizona voting right act is going to come back to bite republicans on the ass as actually about 75% of all people who vote there do so by mail in… and they have the systems down pat….
This will end up eating into your own vote …
It’s not as innately as racially targeted as the Georgia or Texas voting rights bills…. Arizona republicans are a different breed of crazy!
And since you threw that in, let me lob one back did you see the federal courts have blocked Florida from enacting the social media law…..
I seen the injunction. It's just a process it will end up in scotus laps eventually.
Like the voter fraud allegations?
Umm no Clarence Thomas is eager to discuss social media. More then likely it will head to scotus."‘More than likely ‘ | |||
"Did you all miss the cspan survey of presidents…. 150 presidential historians and biographers were asked to rank the presidents in order from best to worst… Trump…. 4th worst! Lol oh dear!!!!!!
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/01/politics/voting-rights-act-supreme-court-ruling/index.html
Thanks scotus
Arizona voting right act is going to come back to bite republicans on the ass as actually about 75% of all people who vote there do so by mail in… and they have the systems down pat….
This will end up eating into your own vote …
It’s not as innately as racially targeted as the Georgia or Texas voting rights bills…. Arizona republicans are a different breed of crazy!
And since you threw that in, let me lob one back did you see the federal courts have blocked Florida from enacting the social media law…..
I seen the injunction. It's just a process it will end up in scotus laps eventually.
Like the voter fraud allegations?
Umm no Clarence Thomas is eager to discuss social media. More then likely it will head to scotus."It's a temporary block | |||
"Did you all miss the cspan survey of presidents…. 150 presidential historians and biographers were asked to rank the presidents in order from best to worst… Trump…. 4th worst! Lol oh dear!!!!!!
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/01/politics/voting-rights-act-supreme-court-ruling/index.html
Thanks scotus
Arizona voting right act is going to come back to bite republicans on the ass as actually about 75% of all people who vote there do so by mail in… and they have the systems down pat….
This will end up eating into your own vote …
It’s not as innately as racially targeted as the Georgia or Texas voting rights bills…. Arizona republicans are a different breed of crazy!
And since you threw that in, let me lob one back did you see the federal courts have blocked Florida from enacting the social media law…..
I seen the injunction. It's just a process it will end up in scotus laps eventually.
Like the voter fraud allegations?
Umm no Clarence Thomas is eager to discuss social media. More then likely it will head to scotus.
It's a temporary block "Most likely | |||
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"CSPAM has him ranked as the 4th worst president, and the Congressional Historians ranked him as the worst. What a legacy in history lol ! Desantis is to much of a trump butt kisser and trump minded to make a good president. It would be like voting in another Hitler minded fool to run the country again. The republican party needs to endorse someone that's for the people, all the people, of every race, and every gender, someone that will raise people out of poverty, someone that will change policing to actually serve and protect everyone, regardless of race and gender, someone that will follow the constitutional rules of law in government, someone that wont use the Department of Justice as their own police force, someone that actually honors our military not pretend to honor just who follows their views, someone that will make it easier for everyone to vote not harder, someone that isn't for big business interests and the wealthy, someone that will raise corporate tax rates and taxes on the wealthy to help raise people out of poverty, someone thats out to protect our environment and prepare for the future troubles of climate change that are coming, someone that's not out to destroy our democracy and rule in a autocracy as trump was trying to do in every way he possibly could. Oh, wait just a minute, that means the republican party would have to endorse a democrat to do what was right for the people and the nation. Well, the republican party of trump isn't smart enough to do the correct things for the people and the nation, they are only worried about their own political careers, and will cheat and lie through their teeth to benefit themselves, they have no interest in doing the correct things to lift the nation as a whole. It's a travesty that many of the republican party has let themselves be fooled to the point that they would fall to their knees to worship and kiss the ass of that psychopath trump, they've lost all the honor they may have once had. It will definitely come back to bite them in the ass hard, which will most likely be to the benefit of the people and the nation in the long run anyway. It's an inevitable fact, for any democratic nation, or democratic republic to survive and progress, it has to become more liberal leaning because of the diversity of the people, otherwise it will not survive as a democratic nation or democratic republic, it will become an autocracy, and the people will only have the right to follow the wishes of their ruler, or leave the country if they possibly can. You either follow the right politicians that try to protect your democracy, and that try to make things better for the people as a whole, whether you are a republican or democrat, or you follow the wrong type of politicians like trump and his political ass kissers and lose your democracy to autocracy ! You see these trump like politician nuts on a daily basis if you turn on the tv. Thats the only choice you have, so choose wisely, for your children and grandchildrens sake, because they will be the ones that truly suffer if you choose unwisely !" Desantis .... He against the norm and forged path that people can follow. Is he right in his assessment? I would say yes he is. Unless you can prove otherwise. | |||
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"The leader of the US is critical to the state of the world. As you can see from the record breaking heatwave in Canada and the US this week, the climate emergency is already having major impacts on current life. Putting a dangerous puppet in to power, wasting more years of when we could be tackling the biggest problem in the world, is myopic and stupid. We wasted those years of his presidency, making it much, much harder to get corrections under way. He makes no apology for squandered time and lost opportunities. He's just in it for himself, not his country and certainly not the world and all citizens. He belongs in the past. " is it a climate emergency ? Same things had happened in the past before the industrial revolution. | |||
