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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"All in a days work for the RN.
I doubt it
The Russians would destroy that vessel in a heartbeat
Ifthey really wanted to .
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Of course they would but they have more sense than that its just the usual posturing. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"All in a days work for the RN.
I doubt it
The Russians would destroy that vessel in a heartbeat
Ifthey really wanted to .
Of course they would but they have more sense than that its just the usual posturing."
Posturing by the RN
Yes i agree totally
Very Un-necessary by those in Government & The Military . |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"All in a days work for the RN.
I doubt it
The Russians would destroy that vessel in a heartbeat
Ifthey really wanted to .
Of course they would but they have more sense than that its just the usual posturing.
Posturing by the RN
Yes i agree totally
Very Un-necessary by those in Government & The Military ."
It is like a little kitten poking a bear |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"All in a days work for the RN.
I doubt it
The Russians would destroy that vessel in a heartbeat
Ifthey really wanted to .
Of course they would but they have more sense than that its just the usual posturing.
Posturing by the RN
Yes i agree totally
Very Un-necessary by those in Government & The Military ."
Well that depends on whether you believe the annexing of the Crimea turns international waters into russian waters whats your view of it? |
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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago
milton keynes |
"All in a days work for the RN.
I doubt it
The Russians would destroy that vessel in a heartbeat
Ifthey really wanted to .
Of course they would but they have more sense than that its just the usual posturing.
Posturing by the RN
Yes i agree totally
Very Un-necessary by those in Government & The Military ."
What was unnecessary |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"All in a days work for the RN.
I doubt it
The Russians would destroy that vessel in a heartbeat
Ifthey really wanted to .
Of course they would but they have more sense than that its just the usual posturing.
Posturing by the RN
Yes i agree totally
Very Un-necessary by those in Government & The Military .Well that depends on whether you believe the annexing of the Crimea turns international waters into russian waters whats your view of it? "
Possesion is 9/10ths of the law isnt it ? |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"All in a days work for the RN.
I doubt it
The Russians would destroy that vessel in a heartbeat
Ifthey really wanted to .
Of course they would but they have more sense than that its just the usual posturing.
Posturing by the RN
Yes i agree totally
Very Un-necessary by those in Government & The Military .Well that depends on whether you believe the annexing of the Crimea turns international waters into russian waters whats your view of it?
Possesion is 9/10ths of the law isnt it ?"
Is it? well im not sure that has been recognized internationally. |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
Think that ship can do a lot of damage before it would be overwhelmed.
Interesting reading on its abilities. Also joined by a US top of the range ship now so safety in numbers.
Sabre rattling always a good way to distract from shit news at home though. So Boris how is Brexit going?? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"All in a days work for the RN.
I doubt it
The Russians would destroy that vessel in a heartbeat
Ifthey really wanted to .
Of course they would but they have more sense than that its just the usual posturing.
Posturing by the RN
Yes i agree totally
Very Un-necessary by those in Government & The Military .Well that depends on whether you believe the annexing of the Crimea turns international waters into russian waters whats your view of it?
Possesion is 9/10ths of the law isnt it ? Is it? well im not sure that has been recognized internationally. "
I dont think that matters to much does it ?
There is a place in the world that just takes what it wants landwise & nobody seems to bat an eyelid . |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Think that ship can do a lot of damage before it would be overwhelmed.
Interesting reading on its abilities. Also joined by a US top of the range ship now so safety in numbers.
Sabre rattling always a good way to distract from shit news at home though. So Boris how is Brexit going?? "
Followed by 2 Russian warships & 12 war planes .
Im sure it could do a lot of damage
But at what cost ? |
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"Think that ship can do a lot of damage before it would be overwhelmed.
Interesting reading on its abilities. Also joined by a US top of the range ship now so safety in numbers.
Sabre rattling always a good way to distract from shit news at home though. So Boris how is Brexit going?? "
Also overshadowing his embarassing comments in parliament today.
Straight out of the Thatcher handbook. |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"All in a days work for the RN.
I doubt it
The Russians would destroy that vessel in a heartbeat
Ifthey really wanted to .
Of course they would but they have more sense than that its just the usual posturing.
Posturing by the RN
Yes i agree totally
Very Un-necessary by those in Government & The Military .Well that depends on whether you believe the annexing of the Crimea turns international waters into russian waters whats your view of it?
Possesion is 9/10ths of the law isnt it ? Is it? well im not sure that has been recognized internationally.
I dont think that matters to much does it ?
There is a place in the world that just takes what it wants landwise & nobody seems to bat an eyelid ."
Now you are getting why the RN were there just a reminder that some still give a shit. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"All in a days work for the RN.
I doubt it
The Russians would destroy that vessel in a heartbeat
Ifthey really wanted to .
Of course they would but they have more sense than that its just the usual posturing.
Posturing by the RN
Yes i agree totally
Very Un-necessary by those in Government & The Military .Well that depends on whether you believe the annexing of the Crimea turns international waters into russian waters whats your view of it?
Possesion is 9/10ths of the law isnt it ? Is it? well im not sure that has been recognized internationally.
I dont think that matters to much does it ?
There is a place in the world that just takes what it wants landwise & nobody seems to bat an eyelid .Now you are getting why the RN were there just a reminder that some still give a shit."
Tbere are places that the RN should have
visited way before Crimea . |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Did anything actually happen?
BBC 1st said shots were fired.
Then the mod said nothing happened. "
There is audio
That clearly has explosions/gunfire in the distance . |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"Think that ship can do a lot of damage before it would be overwhelmed.
Interesting reading on its abilities. Also joined by a US top of the range ship now so safety in numbers.
Sabre rattling always a good way to distract from shit news at home though. So Boris how is Brexit going??
Also overshadowing his embarassing comments in parliament today.
Straight out of the Thatcher handbook."
Yes yet another cringeworthy performance of a man so far out of his depth he could be described as titanic .. Yes the one at the bottom of the Atlantic . More lies snd incompetence. The oven ready social care plan which was done and ready months ago according to Boris is still nowhere to be seen.
No reason to believe less police and courts will affect the prosecution rates on sexual crimes at all according to the buffoon. But lots of protection for statues in the criminal bill so that’s ok then. |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"Did anything actually happen?
BBC 1st said shots were fired.
Then the mod said nothing happened.
There is audio
That clearly has explosions/gunfire in the distance ."
Reporter on board stated they can hear Russian war games which they were made aware of by the Russians. |
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"Think that ship can do a lot of damage before it would be overwhelmed.
Interesting reading on its abilities. Also joined by a US top of the range ship now so safety in numbers.
Sabre rattling always a good way to distract from shit news at home though. So Boris how is Brexit going??
Also overshadowing his embarassing comments in parliament today.
Straight out of the Thatcher handbook.
Yes yet another cringeworthy performance of a man so far out of his depth he could be described as titanic .. Yes the one at the bottom of the Atlantic . More lies snd incompetence. The oven ready social care plan which was done and ready months ago according to Boris is still nowhere to be seen.
No reason to believe less police and courts will affect the prosecution rates on sexual crimes at all according to the buffoon. But lots of protection for statues in the criminal bill so that’s ok then. "
The deflection of the r### issue into the vaccine was unbelievable.
Unsurprisingly its received v little coverage. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Did anything actually happen?
BBC 1st said shots were fired.
Then the mod said nothing happened.
There is audio
That clearly has explosions/gunfire in the distance .
Reporter on board stated they can hear Russian war games which they were made aware of by the Russians. "
Yup
With a real live target in the area to .
Not the sort of Games Responsible Politicians
Should be playing with the likes of Russia & Vlad . |
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Fxxfing English clowns, what is a English warship doing in the black sea 12 miles off the coast of Russia in 2021,rule Britannia, OMG this boris thing is getting petitic, trying to be a revelent player in the modern real world, embarrassing, embarrassing, get real you English clowns, |
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I don't buy all this us vs Russia crap.
It's both sides trying to drum up support from their own people by creating a mock conflict.
They did it with the so called cold war, that was a load of crap as they were talking to each other all the time. That was the biggest con of all mankind.
As soon as you start believing their crap they've got you under their spell, and before you know it you've begun another paranoid number they can control.
Free yo mind and yo ass will follow.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I don't buy all this us vs Russia crap.
It's both sides trying to drum up support from their own people by creating a mock conflict.
They did it with the so called cold war, that was a load of crap as they were talking to each other all the time. That was the biggest con of all mankind.
As soon as you start believing their crap they've got you under their spell, and before you know it you've begun another paranoid number they can control.
Free yo mind and yo ass will follow.
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When did you arrive in the Land of Mary Poppins ? |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
Dear me, some right misconceptions on here.
The RN is there as part of a NATO force, giving protection to Ukraine. It deters Russia from further aggressive acts.
The back story to yesterday, is that on Monday, Ukraine signed a deal with the UK, to supply new Destroyers, refurbished minesweepers, armaments and logistical provision at Ukrainian. Naval bases. Which no doubt irked the Russians.
This deal was signed off on.... HMS Defender! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Deliberate provoking by RN, loitering about near Russians to get a reaction. I think its a dangerous game and totally stupid actions by the UK I'm sorry to say |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"Deliberate provoking by RN, loitering about near Russians to get a reaction. I think its a dangerous game and totally stupid actions by the UK I'm sorry to say "
The RN were in International Waters. They have every right to be there.
Notice how the Russians sent a coastguard boat to try and drive the RN ship away? They wouldn't dare use one of their warships, knowing that reporters and a camera crew were on HMS Defender. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Dear me, some right misconceptions on here.
The RN is there as part of a NATO force, giving protection to Ukraine. It deters Russia from further aggressive acts.
The back story to yesterday, is that on Monday, Ukraine signed a deal with the UK, to supply new Destroyers, refurbished minesweepers, armaments and logistical provision at Ukrainian. Naval bases. Which no doubt irked the Russians.
This deal was signed off on.... HMS Defender! "
The British signed an initial agreement with the Ukrainians last October to help revitalize naval capabilities hit by the Russian takeover of Crimea.
The new memorandum falls short of a deal actually being struck by the two sides, but a company spokesman in London said the signing maintained the momentum of discussions and was an important next step.
Babcock’s ship construction pedigree includes building five new Type 31 frigates for the Royal Navy.
Hardly a Deal though is it .
Bit reckless sailing so close to Crimea . |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Deliberate provoking by RN, loitering about near Russians to get a reaction. I think its a dangerous game and totally stupid actions by the UK I'm sorry to say
The RN were in International Waters. They have every right to be there.
Notice how the Russians sent a coastguard boat to try and drive the RN ship away? They wouldn't dare use one of their warships, knowing that reporters and a camera crew were on HMS Defender. "
Yet they had a dozen warplanes " buzz the RN
ship as the reporter stated .
The Russians will do as they please .
As they have dont the last few years flying around the uk
Sending Agents to Novichok whoever they want .
Please be real .
The Russians Will not worry about the RN
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"All in a days work for the RN.
I doubt it
The Russians would destroy that vessel in a heartbeat
Ifthey really wanted to .
Of course they would but they have more sense than that its just the usual posturing.
Posturing by the RN
Yes i agree totally
Very Un-necessary by those in Government & The Military .Well that depends on whether you believe the annexing of the Crimea turns international waters into russian waters whats your view of it? "
If Israel can annex pallestine with the full support of the usa and the UK , how can anyone criticise Russia over the crimea?
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Deliberate provoking by RN, loitering about near Russians to get a reaction. I think its a dangerous game and totally stupid actions by the UK I'm sorry to say
The RN were in International Waters. They have every right to be there.
Notice how the Russians sent a coastguard boat to try and drive the RN ship away? They wouldn't dare use one of their warships, knowing that reporters and a camera crew were on HMS Defender. "
Loitering and passing are 2 seperate things |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"Deliberate provoking by RN, loitering about near Russians to get a reaction. I think its a dangerous game and totally stupid actions by the UK I'm sorry to say
The RN were in International Waters. They have every right to be there.
Notice how the Russians sent a coastguard boat to try and drive the RN ship away? They wouldn't dare use one of their warships, knowing that reporters and a camera crew were on HMS Defender.
Yet they had a dozen warplanes " buzz the RN
ship as the reporter stated .
The Russians will do as they please .
As they have dont the last few years flying around the uk
Sending Agents to Novichok whoever they want .
Please be real .
The Russians Will not worry about the RN
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What the Russian's do is for their own internal consumption. I can well imagine that their TV stations were full of "their brave forces chasing away the imperialistic aggressors". |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Deliberate provoking by RN, loitering about near Russians to get a reaction. I think its a dangerous game and totally stupid actions by the UK I'm sorry to say
The RN were in International Waters. They have every right to be there.
Notice how the Russians sent a coastguard boat to try and drive the RN ship away? They wouldn't dare use one of their warships, knowing that reporters and a camera crew were on HMS Defender.
Yet they had a dozen warplanes " buzz the RN
ship as the reporter stated .
The Russians will do as they please .
As they have dont the last few years flying around the uk
Sending Agents to Novichok whoever they want .
Please be real .
The Russians Will not worry about the RN
What the Russian's do is for their own internal consumption. I can well imagine that their TV stations were full of "their brave forces chasing away the imperialistic aggressors". "
Of course what the Russians do is for there internal consumption
Much like the UK or The U.S or Brazil China, France so on & so on .
The point is still, that the Russians will do whatever Putin wants them to do & everyone should be aware of that . |
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"Deliberate provoking by RN, loitering about near Russians to get a reaction. I think its a dangerous game and totally stupid actions by the UK I'm sorry to say
The RN were in International Waters. They have every right to be there.
Notice how the Russians sent a coastguard boat to try and drive the RN ship away? They wouldn't dare use one of their warships, knowing that reporters and a camera crew were on HMS Defender.
Yet they had a dozen warplanes " buzz the RN
ship as the reporter stated .
The Russians will do as they please .
As they have dont the last few years flying around the uk
Sending Agents to Novichok whoever they want .
Please be real .
The Russians Will not worry about the RN
What the Russian's do is for their own internal consumption. I can well imagine that their TV stations were full of "their brave forces chasing away the imperialistic aggressors". "
As opposed to our completely impartial media presumably? |
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"I don't buy all this us vs Russia crap.
It's both sides trying to drum up support from their own people by creating a mock conflict.
They did it with the so called cold war, that was a load of crap as they were talking to each other all the time. That was the biggest con of all mankind.
As soon as you start believing their crap they've got you under their spell, and before you know it you've begun another paranoid number they can control.
Free yo mind and yo ass will follow.
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The west always needs a folk devil. |
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"Is Putin the good guy now?
I'd ask where anyone said anything remotely of the sort but..you know..
That’s not what I said though. I asked a simple question and again you go off early. "
You asked a question which no one had even come close to alluding too.
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"Is Putin the good guy now?
I'd ask where anyone said anything remotely of the sort but..you know..
That’s not what I said though. I asked a simple question and again you go off early.
You asked a question which no one had even come close to alluding too.
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Which is why I didn’t allude to it.
Thread is Boris vs Vladimir. I want to know who the good guy is. The Drago to the Rocky. It’s important to know these things in my irreverent world. |
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To me the whole episode has a "Maggie and the Falklands" vibe to it.
Not that a war is in the offing, but that this flexing of military muscle always wins points.
There are other, better ways to challenge Russia regarding it's behaviour in Ukraine/Crimea. But we don't seem to be doing much on that front.
Ringing the doorbell and running away doesn't seem like an effective strategy. |
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"Is Putin the good guy now?
I'd ask where anyone said anything remotely of the sort but..you know..
That’s not what I said though. I asked a simple question and again you go off early.
You asked a question which no one had even come close to alluding too.
Which is why I didn’t allude to it.
Thread is Boris vs Vladimir. I want to know who the good guy is. The Drago to the Rocky. It’s important to know these things in my irreverent world. "
There arent any good guys. |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"To me the whole episode has a "Maggie and the Falklands" vibe to it.
Not that a war is in the offing, but that this flexing of military muscle always wins points.
There are other, better ways to challenge Russia regarding it's behaviour in Ukraine/Crimea. But we don't seem to be doing much on that front.
Ringing the doorbell and running away doesn't seem like an effective strategy."
Yes but not really much we can do on our own these days unfortunately.Its not threatening the usa,s security so they wont get involved and the eu dare not say anything as they are so reliant on russian gas. |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"To me the whole episode has a "Maggie and the Falklands" vibe to it.
Not that a war is in the offing, but that this flexing of military muscle always wins points.
There are other, better ways to challenge Russia regarding it's behaviour in Ukraine/Crimea. But we don't seem to be doing much on that front.
Ringing the doorbell and running away doesn't seem like an effective strategy."
What you saw yesterday goes on daily. Its just that HMS Defender had media crews aboard, after the Ukranian navy deal signing on Monday in Odessa.
Watch the Channel 4 series, Warship, about HMS Duncan's deployment in the Black Sea and see for yourself.
Watch the BBC1 interview with Rear Admiral Chris Parry this morning. He tells it exactly how it is. |
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"To me the whole episode has a "Maggie and the Falklands" vibe to it.
Not that a war is in the offing, but that this flexing of military muscle always wins points.
There are other, better ways to challenge Russia regarding it's behaviour in Ukraine/Crimea. But we don't seem to be doing much on that front.
Ringing the doorbell and running away doesn't seem like an effective strategy.
What you saw yesterday goes on daily. Its just that HMS Defender had media crews aboard, after the Ukranian navy deal signing on Monday in Odessa.
Watch the Channel 4 series, Warship, about HMS Duncan's deployment in the Black Sea and see for yourself.
Watch the BBC1 interview with Rear Admiral Chris Parry this morning. He tells it exactly how it is. "
Yes that interview was very interesting.
As he pointed out, if an international route is not used for a period of time that route may then be claimed as its own waters by the nearest county.
So what the RN was clearly doing was showing the Russians these international waters are not your territory. |
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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago
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"To me the whole episode has a "Maggie and the Falklands" vibe to it.
Not that a war is in the offing, but that this flexing of military muscle always wins points.
There are other, better ways to challenge Russia regarding it's behaviour in Ukraine/Crimea. But we don't seem to be doing much on that front.
Ringing the doorbell and running away doesn't seem like an effective strategy.
What you saw yesterday goes on daily. Its just that HMS Defender had media crews aboard, after the Ukranian navy deal signing on Monday in Odessa.
Watch the Channel 4 series, Warship, about HMS Duncan's deployment in the Black Sea and see for yourself.
Watch the BBC1 interview with Rear Admiral Chris Parry this morning. He tells it exactly how it is. "
That was a good series about HMS Duncan which if I recall correctly included a warship from a certain country trying to get close to the French carrier before Duncan intervened. I do believe ships from any country can use international waters |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"To me the whole episode has a "Maggie and the Falklands" vibe to it.
Not that a war is in the offing, but that this flexing of military muscle always wins points.
There are other, better ways to challenge Russia regarding it's behaviour in Ukraine/Crimea. But we don't seem to be doing much on that front.
Ringing the doorbell and running away doesn't seem like an effective strategy."
Trouble is, Russia is far superior
In military & Naval forces than
The Argies ever were .
Boris is trying to play some deluded
Churchillian hero role |
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"To me the whole episode has a "Maggie and the Falklands" vibe to it.
Not that a war is in the offing, but that this flexing of military muscle always wins points.
There are other, better ways to challenge Russia regarding it's behaviour in Ukraine/Crimea. But we don't seem to be doing much on that front.
Ringing the doorbell and running away doesn't seem like an effective strategy.
Trouble is, Russia is far superior
In military & Naval forces than
The Argies ever were .
Boris is trying to play some deluded
Churchillian hero role "
are they really ? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"To me the whole episode has a "Maggie and the Falklands" vibe to it.
Not that a war is in the offing, but that this flexing of military muscle always wins points.
There are other, better ways to challenge Russia regarding it's behaviour in Ukraine/Crimea. But we don't seem to be doing much on that front.
Ringing the doorbell and running away doesn't seem like an effective strategy.
Trouble is, Russia is far superior
In military & Naval forces than
The Argies ever were .
Boris is trying to play some deluded
Churchillian hero role are they really ?"
If you need to ask, then i cant help you
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"To me the whole episode has a "Maggie and the Falklands" vibe to it.
Not that a war is in the offing, but that this flexing of military muscle always wins points.
There are other, better ways to challenge Russia regarding it's behaviour in Ukraine/Crimea. But we don't seem to be doing much on that front.
Ringing the doorbell and running away doesn't seem like an effective strategy.
What you saw yesterday goes on daily. Its just that HMS Defender had media crews aboard, after the Ukranian navy deal signing on Monday in Odessa.
Watch the Channel 4 series, Warship, about HMS Duncan's deployment in the Black Sea and see for yourself.
Watch the BBC1 interview with Rear Admiral Chris Parry this morning. He tells it exactly how it is. "
Maybe some others in this thread should also watch the documentary and the interview, maybe they might have a better understanding then of what is actually happening on a regular basis. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Is Putin the good guy now?
I'd ask where anyone said anything remotely of the sort but..you know..
That’s not what I said though. I asked a simple question and again you go off early.
You asked a question which no one had even come close to alluding too.
Which is why I didn’t allude to it.
Thread is Boris vs Vladimir. I want to know who the good guy is. The Drago to the Rocky. It’s important to know these things in my irreverent world. "
Ahh right, well putin would run rings round boris.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"To me the whole episode has a "Maggie and the Falklands" vibe to it.
Not that a war is in the offing, but that this flexing of military muscle always wins points.
There are other, better ways to challenge Russia regarding it's behaviour in Ukraine/Crimea. But we don't seem to be doing much on that front.
Ringing the doorbell and running away doesn't seem like an effective strategy.
What you saw yesterday goes on daily. Its just that HMS Defender had media crews aboard, after the Ukranian navy deal signing on Monday in Odessa.
Watch the Channel 4 series, Warship, about HMS Duncan's deployment in the Black Sea and see for yourself.
Watch the BBC1 interview with Rear Admiral Chris Parry this morning. He tells it exactly how it is.
Maybe some others in this thread should also watch the documentary and the interview, maybe they might have a better understanding then of what is actually happening on a regular basis."
Was that the one where they sailed up the Med to
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I mean they had British Military muredered by terrorists
At the King David Hotel didnt they ?
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Is Putin the good guy now?
I'd ask where anyone said anything remotely of the sort but..you know..
That’s not what I said though. I asked a simple question and again you go off early.
You asked a question which no one had even come close to alluding too.
Which is why I didn’t allude to it.
Thread is Boris vs Vladimir. I want to know who the good guy is. The Drago to the Rocky. It’s important to know these things in my irreverent world.
Ahh right, well putin would run rings round boris.
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Oh i dunno
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By *renzMan
over a year ago
Between Chichester and Havant |
The Russians are one of the best at misinformation.
Great podcast called Into the grey zone.
Seems like many on here would do themselves a favour by listening to it.
So many willing to roll over and have their tummies rubbed. |
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"To me the whole episode has a "Maggie and the Falklands" vibe to it.
Not that a war is in the offing, but that this flexing of military muscle always wins points.
There are other, better ways to challenge Russia regarding it's behaviour in Ukraine/Crimea. But we don't seem to be doing much on that front.
Ringing the doorbell and running away doesn't seem like an effective strategy.
What you saw yesterday goes on daily. Its just that HMS Defender had media crews aboard, after the Ukranian navy deal signing on Monday in Odessa.
Watch the Channel 4 series, Warship, about HMS Duncan's deployment in the Black Sea and see for yourself.
Watch the BBC1 interview with Rear Admiral Chris Parry this morning. He tells it exactly how it is.
Maybe some others in this thread should also watch the documentary and the interview, maybe they might have a better understanding then of what is actually happening on a regular basis.
Was that the one where they sailed up the Med to
Stand up for Palestine ?
I mean they had British Military muredered by terrorists
At the King David Hotel didnt they ?
After all , the charge of the light brigade was an awful long time ago ."
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"To me the whole episode has a "Maggie and the Falklands" vibe to it.
Not that a war is in the offing, but that this flexing of military muscle always wins points.
There are other, better ways to challenge Russia regarding it's behaviour in Ukraine/Crimea. But we don't seem to be doing much on that front.
Ringing the doorbell and running away doesn't seem like an effective strategy.
What you saw yesterday goes on daily. Its just that HMS Defender had media crews aboard, after the Ukranian navy deal signing on Monday in Odessa.
Watch the Channel 4 series, Warship, about HMS Duncan's deployment in the Black Sea and see for yourself.
Watch the BBC1 interview with Rear Admiral Chris Parry this morning. He tells it exactly how it is.
Maybe some others in this thread should also watch the documentary and the interview, maybe they might have a better understanding then of what is actually happening on a regular basis.
Was that the one where they sailed up the Med to
Stand up for Palestine ?
I mean they had British Military muredered by terrorists
At the King David Hotel didnt they ?
After all , the charge of the light brigade was an awful long time ago .
And that makes so much sense "
It should do
I wrote it , if you dont understand it
Thats your lack of knowledge
Not mine
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So did it start WWIII, no.
Why? Because they are all in it together, and need all this crap to perpetuate their weapons industries.
Cause and effect.
Meanwhile the poor old tax payers are footing the bill.
I used to work in the defense industry, I know how it works.
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"To me the whole episode has a "Maggie and the Falklands" vibe to it.
Not that a war is in the offing, but that this flexing of military muscle always wins points.
There are other, better ways to challenge Russia regarding it's behaviour in Ukraine/Crimea. But we don't seem to be doing much on that front.
Ringing the doorbell and running away doesn't seem like an effective strategy.
What you saw yesterday goes on daily. Its just that HMS Defender had media crews aboard, after the Ukranian navy deal signing on Monday in Odessa.
Watch the Channel 4 series, Warship, about HMS Duncan's deployment in the Black Sea and see for yourself.
Watch the BBC1 interview with Rear Admiral Chris Parry this morning. He tells it exactly how it is.
Maybe some others in this thread should also watch the documentary and the interview, maybe they might have a better understanding then of what is actually happening on a regular basis.
Was that the one where they sailed up the Med to
Stand up for Palestine ?
I mean they had British Military muredered by terrorists
At the King David Hotel didnt they ?
After all , the charge of the light brigade was an awful long time ago .
And that makes so much sense
It should do
I wrote it , if you dont understand it
Thats your lack of knowledge
Not mine
"
Oh I understand what you wrote but it has fuck all to do with HMS defender and what happened though. Guess its just your sense of humour.
People can change there names in life but not there spots  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"To me the whole episode has a "Maggie and the Falklands" vibe to it.
Not that a war is in the offing, but that this flexing of military muscle always wins points.
There are other, better ways to challenge Russia regarding it's behaviour in Ukraine/Crimea. But we don't seem to be doing much on that front.
Ringing the doorbell and running away doesn't seem like an effective strategy.
What you saw yesterday goes on daily. Its just that HMS Defender had media crews aboard, after the Ukranian navy deal signing on Monday in Odessa.
Watch the Channel 4 series, Warship, about HMS Duncan's deployment in the Black Sea and see for yourself.
Watch the BBC1 interview with Rear Admiral Chris Parry this morning. He tells it exactly how it is.
Maybe some others in this thread should also watch the documentary and the interview, maybe they might have a better understanding then of what is actually happening on a regular basis.
Was that the one where they sailed up the Med to
Stand up for Palestine ?
I mean they had British Military muredered by terrorists
At the King David Hotel didnt they ?
After all , the charge of the light brigade was an awful long time ago .
And that makes so much sense
It should do
I wrote it , if you dont understand it
Thats your lack of knowledge
Not mine
Oh I understand what you wrote but it has fuck all to do with HMS defender and what happened though. Guess its just your sense of humour.
People can change there names in life but not there spots "
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"To me the whole episode has a "Maggie and the Falklands" vibe to it.
Not that a war is in the offing, but that this flexing of military muscle always wins points.
There are other, better ways to challenge Russia regarding it's behaviour in Ukraine/Crimea. But we don't seem to be doing much on that front.
Ringing the doorbell and running away doesn't seem like an effective strategy.
What you saw yesterday goes on daily. Its just that HMS Defender had media crews aboard, after the Ukranian navy deal signing on Monday in Odessa.
Watch the Channel 4 series, Warship, about HMS Duncan's deployment in the Black Sea and see for yourself.
Watch the BBC1 interview with Rear Admiral Chris Parry this morning. He tells it exactly how it is.
Maybe some others in this thread should also watch the documentary and the interview, maybe they might have a better understanding then of what is actually happening on a regular basis.
Was that the one where they sailed up the Med to
Stand up for Palestine ?
I mean they had British Military muredered by terrorists
At the King David Hotel didnt they ?
After all , the charge of the light brigade was an awful long time ago .
And that makes so much sense
It should do
I wrote it , if you dont understand it
Thats your lack of knowledge
Not mine
Oh I understand what you wrote but it has fuck all to do with HMS defender and what happened though. Guess its just your sense of humour.
People can change there names in life but not there spots "
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over a year ago
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"To me the whole episode has a "Maggie and the Falklands" vibe to it.
Not that a war is in the offing, but that this flexing of military muscle always wins points.
There are other, better ways to challenge Russia regarding it's behaviour in Ukraine/Crimea. But we don't seem to be doing much on that front.
Ringing the doorbell and running away doesn't seem like an effective strategy.
What you saw yesterday goes on daily. Its just that HMS Defender had media crews aboard, after the Ukranian navy deal signing on Monday in Odessa.
Watch the Channel 4 series, Warship, about HMS Duncan's deployment in the Black Sea and see for yourself.
Watch the BBC1 interview with Rear Admiral Chris Parry this morning. He tells it exactly how it is.
Maybe some others in this thread should also watch the documentary and the interview, maybe they might have a better understanding then of what is actually happening on a regular basis.
Was that the one where they sailed up the Med to
Stand up for Palestine ?
I mean they had British Military muredered by terrorists
At the King David Hotel didnt they ?
After all , the charge of the light brigade was an awful long time ago .
And that makes so much sense
It should do
I wrote it , if you dont understand it
Thats your lack of knowledge
Not mine
Oh I understand what you wrote but it has fuck all to do with HMS defender and what happened though. Guess its just your sense of humour.
People can change there names in life but not there spots "
As ive already stated
Alex = Boris
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"So many phoenix's on fab and there was me thinking they were a extinct species "
Surel a phonix dies & rises from the ashes .
Are you suggesting I am a dead man ?
I should report you to admin !!
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"Oh look Batley & spen byelection iminent must do a bit of sabre ratling to drum up votesalways worked for Maggie "
I think that SKS and the Labour party have more to fear about Batley and Spen! |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"To me the whole episode has a "Maggie and the Falklands" vibe to it.
Not that a war is in the offing, but that this flexing of military muscle always wins points.
There are other, better ways to challenge Russia regarding it's behaviour in Ukraine/Crimea. But we don't seem to be doing much on that front.
Ringing the doorbell and running away doesn't seem like an effective strategy.
What you saw yesterday goes on daily. Its just that HMS Defender had media crews aboard, after the Ukranian navy deal signing on Monday in Odessa.
Watch the Channel 4 series, Warship, about HMS Duncan's deployment in the Black Sea and see for yourself.
Watch the BBC1 interview with Rear Admiral Chris Parry this morning. He tells it exactly how it is.
Maybe some others in this thread should also watch the documentary and the interview, maybe they might have a better understanding then of what is actually happening on a regular basis.
Was that the one where they sailed up the Med to
Stand up for Palestine ?
I mean they had British Military muredered by terrorists
At the King David Hotel didnt they ?
After all , the charge of the light brigade was an awful long time ago .
And that makes so much sense
It should do
I wrote it , if you dont understand it
Thats your lack of knowledge
Not mine
Oh I understand what you wrote but it has fuck all to do with HMS defender and what happened though. Guess its just your sense of humour.
People can change there names in life but not there spots "
It seems some change their names regularly on here i often wonder why, is it that they think that people will think there are more people with their point of view or that they have said something they regret and have gone into hiding in embarrassment? |
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"To me the whole episode has a "Maggie and the Falklands" vibe to it.
Not that a war is in the offing, but that this flexing of military muscle always wins points.
There are other, better ways to challenge Russia regarding it's behaviour in Ukraine/Crimea. But we don't seem to be doing much on that front.
Ringing the doorbell and running away doesn't seem like an effective strategy.
What you saw yesterday goes on daily. Its just that HMS Defender had media crews aboard, after the Ukranian navy deal signing on Monday in Odessa.
Watch the Channel 4 series, Warship, about HMS Duncan's deployment in the Black Sea and see for yourself.
Watch the BBC1 interview with Rear Admiral Chris Parry this morning. He tells it exactly how it is.
Maybe some others in this thread should also watch the documentary and the interview, maybe they might have a better understanding then of what is actually happening on a regular basis.
Was that the one where they sailed up the Med to
Stand up for Palestine ?
I mean they had British Military muredered by terrorists
At the King David Hotel didnt they ?
After all , the charge of the light brigade was an awful long time ago .
And that makes so much sense
It should do
I wrote it , if you dont understand it
Thats your lack of knowledge
Not mine
Oh I understand what you wrote but it has fuck all to do with HMS defender and what happened though. Guess its just your sense of humour.
People can change there names in life but not there spots It seems some change their names regularly on here i often wonder why, is it that they think that people will think there are more people with their point of view or that they have said something they regret and have gone into hiding in embarrassment? "
Helps getting around an account being banned too if you have a couple lol. |
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"To me the whole episode has a "Maggie and the Falklands" vibe to it.
Not that a war is in the offing, but that this flexing of military muscle always wins points.
There are other, better ways to challenge Russia regarding it's behaviour in Ukraine/Crimea. But we don't seem to be doing much on that front.
Ringing the doorbell and running away doesn't seem like an effective strategy.
What you saw yesterday goes on daily. Its just that HMS Defender had media crews aboard, after the Ukranian navy deal signing on Monday in Odessa.
Watch the Channel 4 series, Warship, about HMS Duncan's deployment in the Black Sea and see for yourself.
Watch the BBC1 interview with Rear Admiral Chris Parry this morning. He tells it exactly how it is.
Maybe some others in this thread should also watch the documentary and the interview, maybe they might have a better understanding then of what is actually happening on a regular basis.
Was that the one where they sailed up the Med to
Stand up for Palestine ?
I mean they had British Military muredered by terrorists
At the King David Hotel didnt they ?
After all , the charge of the light brigade was an awful long time ago .
And that makes so much sense
It should do
I wrote it , if you dont understand it
Thats your lack of knowledge
Not mine
Oh I understand what you wrote but it has fuck all to do with HMS defender and what happened though. Guess its just your sense of humour.
People can change there names in life but not there spots It seems some change their names regularly on here i often wonder why, is it that they think that people will think there are more people with their point of view or that they have said something they regret and have gone into hiding in embarrassment? "
Not that dreary chap from the south coast? |
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By *renzMan
over a year ago
Between Chichester and Havant |
"To me the whole episode has a "Maggie and the Falklands" vibe to it.
Not that a war is in the offing, but that this flexing of military muscle always wins points.
There are other, better ways to challenge Russia regarding it's behaviour in Ukraine/Crimea. But we don't seem to be doing much on that front.
Ringing the doorbell and running away doesn't seem like an effective strategy.
What you saw yesterday goes on daily. Its just that HMS Defender had media crews aboard, after the Ukranian navy deal signing on Monday in Odessa.
Watch the Channel 4 series, Warship, about HMS Duncan's deployment in the Black Sea and see for yourself.
Watch the BBC1 interview with Rear Admiral Chris Parry this morning. He tells it exactly how it is.
Maybe some others in this thread should also watch the documentary and the interview, maybe they might have a better understanding then of what is actually happening on a regular basis.
Was that the one where they sailed up the Med to
Stand up for Palestine ?
I mean they had British Military muredered by terrorists
At the King David Hotel didnt they ?
After all , the charge of the light brigade was an awful long time ago .
And that makes so much sense
It should do
I wrote it , if you dont understand it
Thats your lack of knowledge
Not mine
Oh I understand what you wrote but it has fuck all to do with HMS defender and what happened though. Guess its just your sense of humour.
People can change there names in life but not there spots It seems some change their names regularly on here i often wonder why, is it that they think that people will think there are more people with their point of view or that they have said something they regret and have gone into hiding in embarrassment? "
Probably both of the above. Add into that the faf messages they probably send and then get abusive when turned down so are banned from the site. |
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"Boris seems to be taking a rather large risk
Challenging the Big Red Bear ."
No risk was taken - by either of them.
HMS Defender was doing what any RN warship would do. By navigating international waters near a potential adversary, she let the Russians know that they should not consider that sea-lane under their control - despite their control of Crimea.
It's also a way of testing an adversary's kit - and your own - in many important ways. The UK and the Russians (Americans, French, Chinese, etc) do it all the time. Nothing too bad ever happens.
Why? Well, in this case, it's because even though Putin is a murdering arsehole who runs what is, essentially, a mafia state; he's not an idiot. He knows his country has a smaller GDP than Italy - and that if he triggers Article 5 of the NATO Treaty, he's fucked. |
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By *amish SMan
over a year ago
Eastleigh |
"Deliberate provoking by RN, loitering about near Russians to get a reaction. I think its a dangerous game and totally stupid actions by the UK I'm sorry to say
The RN were in International Waters. They have every right to be there.
Notice how the Russians sent a coastguard boat to try and drive the RN ship away? They wouldn't dare use one of their warships, knowing that reporters and a camera crew were on HMS Defender.
Yet they had a dozen warplanes " buzz the RN
ship as the reporter stated .
The Russians will do as they please .
As they have dont the last few years flying around the uk
Sending Agents to Novichok whoever they want .
Please be real .
The Russians Will not worry about the RN
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But they do, they know of most capable navy in the world and that is why they put on a show, if they didn't worry they would not have bothered showing up.
Some must think that the RN was only off Crimea, they can usually be found worldwide most days, sometimes they are not visual.
For an island nation many don't understand what the navy looks like, or what it does and where.
In 2012 during the Olympics, squaddies and RAF often seen at train stations being heckled, I didn't get heckled, only asked about the next train to London Bridge, most did not recognise the uniform I was wearing.
That type 45 has massive capability, most of those aircraft would have been taken out in seconds. Its anti air systems and radar are most probably the best about these days. If it wasn't any good the big players would not invite to excercise with there big ships. |
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"Deliberate provoking by RN, loitering about near Russians to get a reaction. I think its a dangerous game and totally stupid actions by the UK I'm sorry to say
The RN were in International Waters. They have every right to be there.
Notice how the Russians sent a coastguard boat to try and drive the RN ship away? They wouldn't dare use one of their warships, knowing that reporters and a camera crew were on HMS Defender.
Yet they had a dozen warplanes " buzz the RN
ship as the reporter stated .
The Russians will do as they please .
As they have dont the last few years flying around the uk
Sending Agents to Novichok whoever they want .
Please be real .
The Russians Will not worry about the RN
But they do, they know of most capable navy in the world and that is why they put on a show, if they didn't worry they would not have bothered showing up.
Some must think that the RN was only off Crimea, they can usually be found worldwide most days, sometimes they are not visual.
For an island nation many don't understand what the navy looks like, or what it does and where.
In 2012 during the Olympics, squaddies and RAF often seen at train stations being heckled, I didn't get heckled, only asked about the next train to London Bridge, most did not recognise the uniform I was wearing.
That type 45 has massive capability, most of those aircraft would have been taken out in seconds. Its anti air systems and radar are most probably the best about these days. If it wasn't any good the big players would not invite to excercise with there big ships. "
Outside of the U.S the
Biggest & best Navy in the world by a country mile
Who else of the big players are you talking about ?
Russia , China , Japan ?
They are 2 3 & 4 in tonnage behind the US
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"johnson is a stalinist and putin admires him because of it. it's why putins backroom boys fall over theselves to cough up 50 grand a time to play tennis with the fat addelpated ingrate"
In what was is johnson is a stalinist?
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"johnson is a stalinist and putin admires him because of it. it's why putins backroom boys fall over theselves to cough up 50 grand a time to play tennis with the fat addelpated ingrate
In what was is johnson is a stalinist?
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He's not
He thinks he is Churchill
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"Churchill who sent the black and tans to my country to murder men women and children, ya i would say churchill has a lot in common with stalin when it comes to murdering innocent people "
Churchill had very little to do with sending
The B&T's to Ireland .
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Defender Papers & Documents found at a bus stop .
The rumours that a Russian spent
£ 20 at the local news agents while photo
Copying "stuff" have been denied by ministers . |
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"Defender Papers & Documents found at a bus stop .
The rumours that a Russian spent
£ 20 at the local news agents while photo
Copying "stuff" have been denied by ministers ."
Like I said they are all in it together.
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