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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Tescos throwing away 50 tonnes of food a week
Due to s Shortage of drivers due to the Exodus
By EU based drivers .
The Army is being considered to be put on
Standby to cover shortages of drivers .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/consumer/tesco-food-waste-50-tonnes-hgv-driver-shortage-crisis-1057834/amp
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Exports of Food & drink to European countries
Down 50 % while exports to other countries
Have returned to normal .
( not due to the pandemic then )
https://youtu.be/SKILSvoeQgc
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
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"Tescos throwing away 50 tonnes of food a week
Due to s Shortage of drivers due to the Exodus
By EU based drivers .
The Army is being considered to be put on
Standby to cover shortages of drivers .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/consumer/tesco-food-waste-50-tonnes-hgv-driver-shortage-crisis-1057834/amp
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https://youtu.be/SKILSvoeQgc
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Strange that you didn't quote ALL the reasons for this?
50 tons a week? Over the whole of the tesco empire? Thats not even two trailer loads..... I remember the times when supermarkets used to bin thousands of tons of food! |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
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"Tescos throwing away 50 tonnes of food a week
Due to s Shortage of drivers due to the Exodus
By EU based drivers .
The Army is being considered to be put on
Standby to cover shortages of drivers .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/consumer/tesco-food-waste-50-tonnes-hgv-driver-shortage-crisis-1057834/amp
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https://youtu.be/SKILSvoeQgc
Strange that you didn't quote ALL the reasons for this?
50 tons a week? Over the whole of the tesco empire? Thats not even two trailer loads..... I remember the times when supermarkets used to bin thousands of tons of food! "
Think you’re missing the worrying point of the report.
Tesco a company with very deep pockets and one of the most sophisticated logistics systems in the world can’t get trucks!!
For them to be admitting this is a signal to government.
Imagine how the lesser mortals in the food and drinks industry are coping??
It’s becoming a major problem . No drivers due to EU nationals going home. This driver shortage has been growing for years but the EU workers plugged a large part of the gap. They are not available now. Covid played a part but Brexit nailed the lid on the coffin.
The FTA and RHA warned about this but it was put in the project fear category. Well it seems yet another project reality. . |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
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Wow the country is going to starve because we need two hgv drivers.
Remind me again how many are unemployed in this country, all those kids coming out of uni with social and media studies and no job, this is very little to do with brexit or covid it's to do with the politicians( of all parties) and media telling kids they all need an ology and a desk job yo be worthwhile, the last year has shown which section of the country keeps it going. |
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"Tescos throwing away 50 tonnes of food a week
Due to s Shortage of drivers due to the Exodus
By EU based drivers .
The Army is being considered to be put on
Standby to cover shortages of drivers .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/consumer/tesco-food-waste-50-tonnes-hgv-driver-shortage-crisis-1057834/amp
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Where were these 2 drivers from that were in this exodus that worries you so much? |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
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"When did we vote to leave again?"
Brexit has very little to with this it's about people from this country working and the government of all shades encouraging kids to train for jobs that are available instead of going to uni when there isnt the demand for graduates. Remember your labour pal's education education education policy, it should have been training training training, at least the Tories are encouraging apprenticeships again. Too many work shy in this country. Sooner sit on their arse on the internet all day than get a job |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
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"Erm why can't alternative modes of transport be used? I.e trains.
Or am I being too simplistic?
I realise that trains won't solve the issue on their own, but its a start."
Doesn’t work and trains are used wherever possible . Tesco have trains
One of the biggest benefits of HS2 is it will increase capacity for freight . Trains if they doubled in capacity still would only account for less than 10% of freight and most of that is heavy industry stuff like iron ore and aggregates or waste. |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
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"One of the points missed out, was that HGV training was largely put on hold during lockdown.
This has now restarted. "
It has added to the problem but even with foreign drivers here before Brexit the shortage was growing. Average age of drivers is mid 50s retiring drivers will soon impact on top. |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
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"Wow the country is going to starve because we need two hgv drivers.
Remind me again how many are unemployed in this country, all those kids coming out of uni with social and media studies and no job, this is very little to do with brexit or covid it's to do with the politicians( of all parties) and media telling kids they all need an ology and a desk job yo be worthwhile, the last year has shown which section of the country keeps it going. "
Drama Queen re starving comment
I agree the drive for degrees is distracted by pointless courses. We do need a better educated population to move into tech but looking at some degrees they are nonsense.
Also why is it universities can do a course in two years instead of three but need to charge nearly twice as much.
My kids had very low hours of lectures but still we paid the full £9k . My thoughts are greed and ridiculous overhead costs of the uni megalomaniacs.
I think we could learn a lot from the German system of streaming in vocational courses but they are given the same credibility as academic qualifications . |
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"Erm why can't alternative modes of transport be used? I.e trains.
Or am I being too simplistic?
I realise that trains won't solve the issue on their own, but its a start.
Doesn’t work and trains are used wherever possible . Tesco have trains
One of the biggest benefits of HS2 is it will increase capacity for freight . Trains if they doubled in capacity still would only account for less than 10% of freight and most of that is heavy industry stuff like iron ore and aggregates or waste. "
Thank you, I don't think I thought my comment through properly and should have realised it wasn't that simple x |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Tescos throwing away 50 tonnes of food a week
Due to s Shortage of drivers due to the Exodus
By EU based drivers .
The Army is being considered to be put on
Standby to cover shortages of drivers .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/consumer/tesco-food-waste-50-tonnes-hgv-driver-shortage-crisis-1057834/amp
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https://youtu.be/SKILSvoeQgc
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Doesn’t sound great, when will we start to see some Brexit benefits ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"When did we vote to leave again?
Brexit has very little to with this it's about people from this country working and the government of all shades encouraging kids to train for jobs that are available instead of going to uni when there isnt the demand for graduates. Remember your labour pal's education education education policy, it should have been training training training, at least the Tories are encouraging apprenticeships again. Too many work shy in this country. Sooner sit on their arse on the internet all day than get a job"
What we need is a young, eager for work supply of workers that are close to the UK , hold on, isn’t that what we had before Brexit? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Tescos throwing away 50 tonnes of food a week
Due to s Shortage of drivers due to the Exodus
By EU based drivers .
The Army is being considered to be put on
Standby to cover shortages of drivers .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/consumer/tesco-food-waste-50-tonnes-hgv-driver-shortage-crisis-1057834/amp
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https://youtu.be/SKILSvoeQgc
" Most EU drivers are doing return drop offs on way back to the EU the EUs demands on customs means less of those driver are here taking our work. Dont believe the lies your told we have loads of UK drivers wanting work. Perhaps those complaining should offer fare wages to us who pay UK tax. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Tescos throwing away 50 tonnes of food a week
Due to s Shortage of drivers due to the Exodus
By EU based drivers .
The Army is being considered to be put on
Standby to cover shortages of drivers .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/consumer/tesco-food-waste-50-tonnes-hgv-driver-shortage-crisis-1057834/amp
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https://youtu.be/SKILSvoeQgc
" That 50 tons is nothing compared to what is dumped due to delays in UK /GB food coming into Northern Ireland caused by illegal internal UK customs.Forced on us by the EU. Illegal as our UK act of union states there must never be customs between the UK nations. |
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the EU simply agreed to the ovenready deal which johnson and his tory brextremist mob offered them. if you don't like it then tough shit, face the facts and blame the tory government who are responsible for the mess. |
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"When did we vote to leave again?
23rd June 2016
So we have had a mere 5 years to address these anticipated issues,?"
Due to government corruption ... yes
But to make it clear.. they are ALL disgusting corrupt narcissists. |
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"Funny how quickly that gloating triumphalism vanished.
only to be replaced by the boomers default position of hate and intolerance directed at those generations that follow them"
And of course blaming the eu. |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
bournemouth |
"When did we vote to leave again?
Brexit has very little to with this it's about people from this country working and the government of all shades encouraging kids to train for jobs that are available instead of going to uni when there isnt the demand for graduates. Remember your labour pal's education education education policy, it should have been training training training, at least the Tories are encouraging apprenticeships again. Too many work shy in this country. Sooner sit on their arse on the internet all day than get a job
What we need is a young, eager for work supply of workers that are close to the UK , hold on, isn’t that what we had before Brexit? "
We have plenty of young workers IN the uk they are just too lazy and have been told that unless they go to uni they arent educated |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
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"Funny how quickly that gloating triumphalism vanished.
only to be replaced by the boomers default position of hate and intolerance directed at those generations that follow them
And of course blaming the eu."
Who's blaming the EU for a shortage of drivers? It's a shortage of those in this country who are willing to work that's the problem. Remind me again how many are unemployed in this country |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Tescos throwing away 50 tonnes of food a week
Due to s Shortage of drivers due to the Exodus
By EU based drivers .
The Army is being considered to be put on
Standby to cover shortages of drivers .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/consumer/tesco-food-waste-50-tonnes-hgv-driver-shortage-crisis-1057834/amp
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https://youtu.be/SKILSvoeQgc
Strange that you didn't quote ALL the reasons for this?
50 tons a week? Over the whole of the tesco empire? Thats not even two trailer loads..... I remember the times when supermarkets used to bin thousands of tons of food! "
50 tons is 50 tonnes of food being destroyed .
How many on the breadline could have used this food ?
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Wow the country is going to starve because we need two hgv drivers.
Remind me again how many are unemployed in this country, all those kids coming out of uni with social and media studies and no job, this is very little to do with brexit or covid it's to do with the politicians( of all parties) and media telling kids they all need an ology and a desk job yo be worthwhile, the last year has shown which section of the country keeps it going. "
Tell that to TESCO
Its they who have claimed its down to a lack
Of Drivers .
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Tescos throwing away 50 tonnes of food a week
Due to s Shortage of drivers due to the Exodus
By EU based drivers .
The Army is being considered to be put on
Standby to cover shortages of drivers .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/consumer/tesco-food-waste-50-tonnes-hgv-driver-shortage-crisis-1057834/amp
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https://youtu.be/SKILSvoeQgc
That 50 tons is nothing compared to what is dumped due to delays in UK /GB food coming into Northern Ireland caused by illegal internal UK customs.Forced on us by the EU. Illegal as our UK act of union states there must never be customs between the UK nations."
Nothing is being forced .
Bodge negotiated & signed an oven read deal .
Big Arlene agrred to it .
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Im shocked that the Brexiteers have focussed
so much on the 1st story &
Have sneakily allowed the bigger of the 2 stories
To fall by the way side .
EXPORTS OF FOOD & DRINK DOWN BY 50 % .
DAMN .
Thats down £2 billion in the first quarter Of 2021 .
Brexit means Brexit .
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"when faced with worrying facts then grumpy boomers always have 'yoof' to blame
Definition of 'boomer'
someone born between 1946 and 1964.
So do you blame the'yoof' for much yourself then? "
maybe if you used your toes as well as your fingers for calculating those sums which you seem to find more difficult, then perhaps your grasp of numeracy would improve |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
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"when faced with worrying facts then grumpy boomers always have 'yoof' to blame
Definition of 'boomer'
someone born between 1946 and 1964.
So do you blame the'yoof' for much yourself then?
maybe if you used your toes as well as your fingers for calculating those sums which you seem to find more difficult, then perhaps your grasp of numeracy would improve "
What were you saying about hate and vitriol.
I've not seen any apart from you,are you saying that suggesting that people might get trained to do a job is now hate speech ? |
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I've not seen any apart from you,are you saying that suggesting that people might get trained to do a job is now hate speech ? "
you are the sole protagonist of hate,vitriol and bile on this thread. |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
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I've not seen any apart from you,are you saying that suggesting that people might get trained to do a job is now hate speech ?
you are the sole protagonist of hate,vitriol and bile on this thread. "
Well if expecting people to work is hate then god help us all. |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"Tescos throwing away 50 tonnes of food a week
Due to s Shortage of drivers due to the Exodus
By EU based drivers .
The Army is being considered to be put on
Standby to cover shortages of drivers .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/consumer/tesco-food-waste-50-tonnes-hgv-driver-shortage-crisis-1057834/amp
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https://youtu.be/SKILSvoeQgc
Strange that you didn't quote ALL the reasons for this?
50 tons a week? Over the whole of the tesco empire? Thats not even two trailer loads..... I remember the times when supermarkets used to bin thousands of tons of food!
50 tons is 50 tonnes of food being destroyed .
How many on the breadline could have used this food ?
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In the year 2019-20, Tesco had an annual figure of 67000 tons food wastage, after donations to charity.
Some went for cattle feed, but happily they are committed to reducing this figure further. |
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There seem to be a lot of job vacancies at the moment which are being blamed on Brexit, & I'm sure it is true.
However, these jobs all tend to be low paid, and zero hours contracts.
So we can't get crop pickers because noone wants to do back breaking work for minimum wage. Noone want to take part time bar / restaurant work on minimum wage & zero hours contracts.
Maybe we need to face reality and pay a decent wage. How many here, get no rights to sick pay, no pension contribution from their employer, get no holiday pay & have no job security when the next lockdown / economic downturn comes along. It ain't easy.
Fact is we all want everything at the cheapest price. That cheapest price comes at a cost...... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Tescos throwing away 50 tonnes of food a week
Due to s Shortage of drivers due to the Exodus
By EU based drivers .
The Army is being considered to be put on
Standby to cover shortages of drivers .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/consumer/tesco-food-waste-50-tonnes-hgv-driver-shortage-crisis-1057834/amp
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https://youtu.be/SKILSvoeQgc
" also doesn't say why there's a shortage of driver's at Tesco might have something to do with Eddie only paying minimum wage after sacking or forcing old Tesco drivers to swap so could only get foreign drivers who now gone home as wages going up. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I've not seen any apart from you,are you saying that suggesting that people might get trained to do a job is now hate speech ?
you are the sole protagonist of hate,vitriol and bile on this thread.
Well if expecting people to work is hate then god help us all."
Any sugvestions on
How Bodge Johnson & Co can
Enforce the work to be fulfilled .
My mates have kids
Not one works
Mummy & Daddy are far to wealthy &
Are allowing there little ones
To you tube vlog to sing to golf to btc trade
To try many Entrepreneurial fancies .
None of them are struggling in there choices &
All are eraning Money .
How will Bodge Fix it ?
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Tescos throwing away 50 tonnes of food a week
Due to s Shortage of drivers due to the Exodus
By EU based drivers .
The Army is being considered to be put on
Standby to cover shortages of drivers .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/consumer/tesco-food-waste-50-tonnes-hgv-driver-shortage-crisis-1057834/amp
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https://youtu.be/SKILSvoeQgc
Strange that you didn't quote ALL the reasons for this?
50 tons a week? Over the whole of the tesco empire? Thats not even two trailer loads..... I remember the times when supermarkets used to bin thousands of tons of food!
50 tons is 50 tonnes of food being destroyed .
How many on the breadline could have used this food ?
In the year 2019-20, Tesco had an annual figure of 67000 tons food wastage, after donations to charity.
Some went for cattle feed, but happily they are committed to reducing this figure further. "
Link to Source of proof for your claim please
Otherwise its just guff .
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"when faced with worrying facts then grumpy boomers always have 'yoof' to blame
Definition of 'boomer'
someone born between 1946 and 1964.
So do you blame the'yoof' for much yourself then?
maybe if you used your toes as well as your fingers for calculating those sums which you seem to find more difficult, then perhaps your grasp of numeracy would improve "
Youre missing the point there sweet cheeks.Youre older than me,to me youre a 'boomer' |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"There seem to be a lot of job vacancies at the moment which are being blamed on Brexit, & I'm sure it is true.
However, these jobs all tend to be low paid, and zero hours contracts.
So we can't get crop pickers because noone wants to do back breaking work for minimum wage. Noone want to take part time bar / restaurant work on minimum wage & zero hours contracts.
Maybe we need to face reality and pay a decent wage. How many here, get no rights to sick pay, no pension contribution from their employer, get no holiday pay & have no job security when the next lockdown / economic downturn comes along. It ain't easy.
Fact is we all want everything at the cheapest price. That cheapest price comes at a cost...... "
Plus the thousands missing from the posh restraunts around the country but especially in London .
All those jobs you have mentioned were filled by Europeans
Who now arent here to do the jobs . |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Again though
Why is the £ 2 billion fall in the first quarter
Of 2021 in food & drink exports not being talked about ?
Is it because that will br the tip of the Ice berg ?
What other exports are dropping like stone
to the bottom of the sea ?
#GETBREXITDONE
#WEKNOWWHATWEVOTEDFOR
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"Tescos throwing away 50 tonnes of food a week
Due to s Shortage of drivers due to the Exodus
By EU based drivers .
The Army is being considered to be put on
Standby to cover shortages of drivers .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/consumer/tesco-food-waste-50-tonnes-hgv-driver-shortage-crisis-1057834/amp
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https://youtu.be/SKILSvoeQgc
Strange that you didn't quote ALL the reasons for this?
50 tons a week? Over the whole of the tesco empire? Thats not even two trailer loads..... I remember the times when supermarkets used to bin thousands of tons of food!
50 tons is 50 tonnes of food being destroyed .
How many on the breadline could have used this food ?
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Interesting statistic from the RHA . 50 tons is about 6-10 truck loads of finished caged goods. Each truck delivery to a supermarket needs 500 cars to take the same products away. |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
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"Tescos throwing away 50 tonnes of food a week
Due to s Shortage of drivers due to the Exodus
By EU based drivers .
The Army is being considered to be put on
Standby to cover shortages of drivers .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/consumer/tesco-food-waste-50-tonnes-hgv-driver-shortage-crisis-1057834/amp
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https://youtu.be/SKILSvoeQgc
Strange that you didn't quote ALL the reasons for this?
50 tons a week? Over the whole of the tesco empire? Thats not even two trailer loads..... I remember the times when supermarkets used to bin thousands of tons of food!
50 tons is 50 tonnes of food being destroyed .
How many on the breadline could have used this food ?
In the year 2019-20, Tesco had an annual figure of 67000 tons food wastage, after donations to charity.
Some went for cattle feed, but happily they are committed to reducing this figure further.
Link to Source of proof for your claim please
Otherwise its just guff .
??
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I'm no shouty man. If I post facts, then thats exactly what they are! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Tescos throwing away 50 tonnes of food a week
Due to s Shortage of drivers due to the Exodus
By EU based drivers .
The Army is being considered to be put on
Standby to cover shortages of drivers .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/consumer/tesco-food-waste-50-tonnes-hgv-driver-shortage-crisis-1057834/amp
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https://youtu.be/SKILSvoeQgc
Strange that you didn't quote ALL the reasons for this?
50 tons a week? Over the whole of the tesco empire? Thats not even two trailer loads..... I remember the times when supermarkets used to bin thousands of tons of food!
50 tons is 50 tonnes of food being destroyed .
How many on the breadline could have used this food ?
In the year 2019-20, Tesco had an annual figure of 67000 tons food wastage, after donations to charity.
Some went for cattle feed, but happily they are committed to reducing this figure further.
Link to Source of proof for your claim please
Otherwise its just guff .
??
I'm no shouty man. If I post facts, then thats exactly what they are! "
So no link .
Commenting on a thread where Tescos have reported stuff in a link provided , you respond with something that you havent corroborated with a link .
Ill believe the link for now
Not what some a n other pulls out of his own head.
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"Tescos throwing away 50 tonnes of food a week
Due to s Shortage of drivers due to the Exodus
By EU based drivers .
The Army is being considered to be put on
Standby to cover shortages of drivers .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/consumer/tesco-food-waste-50-tonnes-hgv-driver-shortage-crisis-1057834/amp
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https://youtu.be/SKILSvoeQgc
Strange that you didn't quote ALL the reasons for this?
50 tons a week? Over the whole of the tesco empire? Thats not even two trailer loads..... I remember the times when supermarkets used to bin thousands of tons of food!
50 tons is 50 tonnes of food being destroyed .
How many on the breadline could have used this food ?
In the year 2019-20, Tesco had an annual figure of 67000 tons food wastage, after donations to charity.
Some went for cattle feed, but happily they are committed to reducing this figure further.
Link to Source of proof for your claim please
Otherwise its just guff .
??
I'm no shouty man. If I post facts, then thats exactly what they are!
So no link .
Commenting on a thread where Tescos have reported stuff in a link provided , you respond with something that you havent corroborated with a link .
Ill believe the link for now
Not what some a n other pulls out of his own head.
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I was going to post the link for you so that maybe the debate could move on but I really cant be arsed as its so easy to find, just google tesco food waste 2019-2020 you will find it easy enough if you are truly interested that is. |
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"Tescos throwing away 50 tonnes of food a week
Due to s Shortage of drivers due to the Exodus
By EU based drivers .
The Army is being considered to be put on
Standby to cover shortages of drivers .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/consumer/tesco-food-waste-50-tonnes-hgv-driver-shortage-crisis-1057834/amp
******
https://youtu.be/SKILSvoeQgc
Strange that you didn't quote ALL the reasons for this?
50 tons a week? Over the whole of the tesco empire? Thats not even two trailer loads..... I remember the times when supermarkets used to bin thousands of tons of food!
50 tons is 50 tonnes of food being destroyed .
How many on the breadline could have used this food ?
In the year 2019-20, Tesco had an annual figure of 67000 tons food wastage, after donations to charity.
Some went for cattle feed, but happily they are committed to reducing this figure further.
Link to Source of proof for your claim please
Otherwise its just guff .
??
I'm no shouty man. If I post facts, then thats exactly what they are!
So no link .
Commenting on a thread where Tescos have reported stuff in a link provided , you respond with something that you havent corroborated with a link .
Ill believe the link for now
Not what some a n other pulls out of his own head.
I was going to post the link for you so that maybe the debate could move on but I really cant be arsed as its so easy to find, just google tesco food waste 2019-2020 you will find it easy enough if you are truly interested that is."
Nah
Ill wait for you to c&p it for me in here
Thanks .
Does it explain the £2billion fall in the
1st quarter of food& drink exports as well ?
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"Wow the country is going to starve because we need two hgv drivers.
Remind me again how many are unemployed in this country, all those kids coming out of uni with social and media studies and no job, this is very little to do with brexit or covid it's to do with the politicians( of all parties) and media telling kids they all need an ology and a desk job yo be worthwhile, the last year has shown which section of the country keeps it going.
Drama Queen re starving comment
I agree the drive for degrees is distracted by pointless courses. We do need a better educated population to move into tech but looking at some degrees they are nonsense.
Also why is it universities can do a course in two years instead of three but need to charge nearly twice as much.
My kids had very low hours of lectures but still we paid the full £9k . My thoughts are greed and ridiculous overhead costs of the uni megalomaniacs.
I think we could learn a lot from the German system of streaming in vocational courses but they are given the same credibility as academic qualifications . " agree with all that mate they could even do a 3yr shorter than a two yr coarse it they worked decent hrs my youngest as been 3times since September it’s a joke |
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over a year ago
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"Tescos throwing away 50 tonnes of food a week
Due to s Shortage of drivers due to the Exodus
By EU based drivers .
The Army is being considered to be put on
Standby to cover shortages of drivers .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/consumer/tesco-food-waste-50-tonnes-hgv-driver-shortage-crisis-1057834/amp
******
https://youtu.be/SKILSvoeQgc
Strange that you didn't quote ALL the reasons for this?
50 tons a week? Over the whole of the tesco empire? Thats not even two trailer loads..... I remember the times when supermarkets used to bin thousands of tons of food!
50 tons is 50 tonnes of food being destroyed .
How many on the breadline could have used this food ?
Interesting statistic from the RHA . 50 tons is about 6-10 truck loads of finished caged goods. Each truck delivery to a supermarket needs 500 cars to take the same products away. "
But Brexiteers wont believe any of that .
Theyare still dreaming about Nigels
unfulfilled promises . |
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"Tescos throwing away 50 tonnes of food a week
Due to s Shortage of drivers due to the Exodus
By EU based drivers .
The Army is being considered to be put on
Standby to cover shortages of drivers .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/consumer/tesco-food-waste-50-tonnes-hgv-driver-shortage-crisis-1057834/amp
******
https://youtu.be/SKILSvoeQgc
Strange that you didn't quote ALL the reasons for this?
50 tons a week? Over the whole of the tesco empire? Thats not even two trailer loads..... I remember the times when supermarkets used to bin thousands of tons of food!
50 tons is 50 tonnes of food being destroyed .
How many on the breadline could have used this food ?
In the year 2019-20, Tesco had an annual figure of 67000 tons food wastage, after donations to charity.
Some went for cattle feed, but happily they are committed to reducing this figure further.
Link to Source of proof for your claim please
Otherwise its just guff .
??
I'm no shouty man. If I post facts, then thats exactly what they are!
So no link .
Commenting on a thread where Tescos have reported stuff in a link provided , you respond with something that you havent corroborated with a link .
Ill believe the link for now
Not what some a n other pulls out of his own head.
I was going to post the link for you so that maybe the debate could move on but I really cant be arsed as its so easy to find, just google tesco food waste 2019-2020 you will find it easy enough if you are truly interested that is.
Nah
Ill wait for you to c&p it for me in here
Thanks .
Does it explain the £2billion fall in the
1st quarter of food& drink exports as well ?
"
You will be waiting then. I didn't post it in first place so...and I guess the other guy can't be bothered either. As regards the 2 billion fall I have no idea if it explains it, I dont even know for sure there has been a 2billion fall in the 1st quarter and I cant be bothered to research it either. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Tescos throwing away 50 tonnes of food a week
Due to s Shortage of drivers due to the Exodus
By EU based drivers .
The Army is being considered to be put on
Standby to cover shortages of drivers .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/consumer/tesco-food-waste-50-tonnes-hgv-driver-shortage-crisis-1057834/amp
******
https://youtu.be/SKILSvoeQgc
Strange that you didn't quote ALL the reasons for this?
50 tons a week? Over the whole of the tesco empire? Thats not even two trailer loads..... I remember the times when supermarkets used to bin thousands of tons of food!
50 tons is 50 tonnes of food being destroyed .
How many on the breadline could have used this food ?
In the year 2019-20, Tesco had an annual figure of 67000 tons food wastage, after donations to charity.
Some went for cattle feed, but happily they are committed to reducing this figure further.
Link to Source of proof for your claim please
Otherwise its just guff .
??
I'm no shouty man. If I post facts, then thats exactly what they are!
So no link .
Commenting on a thread where Tescos have reported stuff in a link provided , you respond with something that you havent corroborated with a link .
Ill believe the link for now
Not what some a n other pulls out of his own head.
I was going to post the link for you so that maybe the debate could move on but I really cant be arsed as its so easy to find, just google tesco food waste 2019-2020 you will find it easy enough if you are truly interested that is.
Nah
Ill wait for you to c&p it for me in here
Thanks .
Does it explain the £2billion fall in the
1st quarter of food& drink exports as well ?
You will be waiting then. I didn't post it in first place so...and I guess the other guy can't be bothered either. As regards the 2 billion fall I have no idea if it explains it, I dont even know for sure there has been a 2billion fall in the 1st quarter and I cant be bothered to research it either. "
https://www.ft.com/content/e93a6512-73de-486d-9e00-80d9c8aa3ca1
I posted 1 of many links so people
Didnt have to go and search to hard .
Oh well
Dig that head a little deeper
Into the sand , mind how you go .
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"Tescos throwing away 50 tonnes of food a week
Due to s Shortage of drivers due to the Exodus
By EU based drivers .
The Army is being considered to be put on
Standby to cover shortages of drivers .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/consumer/tesco-food-waste-50-tonnes-hgv-driver-shortage-crisis-1057834/amp
******
https://youtu.be/SKILSvoeQgc
Strange that you didn't quote ALL the reasons for this?
50 tons a week? Over the whole of the tesco empire? Thats not even two trailer loads..... I remember the times when supermarkets used to bin thousands of tons of food!
50 tons is 50 tonnes of food being destroyed .
How many on the breadline could have used this food ?
In the year 2019-20, Tesco had an annual figure of 67000 tons food wastage, after donations to charity.
Some went for cattle feed, but happily they are committed to reducing this figure further.
Link to Source of proof for your claim please
Otherwise its just guff .
??
I'm no shouty man. If I post facts, then thats exactly what they are!
So no link .
Commenting on a thread where Tescos have reported stuff in a link provided , you respond with something that you havent corroborated with a link .
Ill believe the link for now
Not what some a n other pulls out of his own head.
I was going to post the link for you so that maybe the debate could move on but I really cant be arsed as its so easy to find, just google tesco food waste 2019-2020 you will find it easy enough if you are truly interested that is.
Nah
Ill wait for you to c&p it for me in here
Thanks .
Does it explain the £2billion fall in the
1st quarter of food& drink exports as well ?
You will be waiting then. I didn't post it in first place so...and I guess the other guy can't be bothered either. As regards the 2 billion fall I have no idea if it explains it, I dont even know for sure there has been a 2billion fall in the 1st quarter and I cant be bothered to research it either.
https://www.ft.com/content/e93a6512-73de-486d-9e00-80d9c8aa3ca1
I posted 1 of many links so people
Didnt have to go and search to hard .
Oh well
Dig that head a little deeper
Into the sand , mind how you go .
"
I see your link and normally the ft is behind a pay wall for me. I am not digging my head in the sand at all, I didn't vote for brexit and am not surprised that a lot of these things are happening, and even if i could read your link I do like to check my information from more than one source so that I get a more unbiased, balanced view on thing's though, so quit with the insults thanks. |
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"Tescos throwing away 50 tonnes of food a week
Due to s Shortage of drivers due to the Exodus
By EU based drivers .
The Army is being considered to be put on
Standby to cover shortages of drivers .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/consumer/tesco-food-waste-50-tonnes-hgv-driver-shortage-crisis-1057834/amp
******
https://youtu.be/SKILSvoeQgc
Strange that you didn't quote ALL the reasons for this?
50 tons a week? Over the whole of the tesco empire? Thats not even two trailer loads..... I remember the times when supermarkets used to bin thousands of tons of food!
50 tons is 50 tonnes of food being destroyed .
How many on the breadline could have used this food ?
In the year 2019-20, Tesco had an annual figure of 67000 tons food wastage, after donations to charity.
Some went for cattle feed, but happily they are committed to reducing this figure further.
Link to Source of proof for your claim please
Otherwise its just guff .
??
I'm no shouty man. If I post facts, then thats exactly what they are!
So no link .
Commenting on a thread where Tescos have reported stuff in a link provided , you respond with something that you havent corroborated with a link .
Ill believe the link for now
Not what some a n other pulls out of his own head.
I was going to post the link for you so that maybe the debate could move on but I really cant be arsed as its so easy to find, just google tesco food waste 2019-2020 you will find it easy enough if you are truly interested that is.
Nah
Ill wait for you to c&p it for me in here
Thanks .
Does it explain the £2billion fall in the
1st quarter of food& drink exports as well ?
You will be waiting then. I didn't post it in first place so...and I guess the other guy can't be bothered either. As regards the 2 billion fall I have no idea if it explains it, I dont even know for sure there has been a 2billion fall in the 1st quarter and I cant be bothered to research it either.
https://www.ft.com/content/e93a6512-73de-486d-9e00-80d9c8aa3ca1
I posted 1 of many links so people
Didnt have to go and search to hard .
Oh well
Dig that head a little deeper
Into the sand , mind how you go .
I see your link and normally the ft is behind a pay wall for me. I am not digging my head in the sand at all, I didn't vote for brexit and am not surprised that a lot of these things are happening, and even if i could read your link I do like to check my information from more than one source so that I get a more unbiased, balanced view on thing's though, so quit with the insults thanks." he can’t help the insults mate he’s still steaming over brexit lol |
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over a year ago
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"Tescos throwing away 50 tonnes of food a week
Due to s Shortage of drivers due to the Exodus
By EU based drivers .
The Army is being considered to be put on
Standby to cover shortages of drivers .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/consumer/tesco-food-waste-50-tonnes-hgv-driver-shortage-crisis-1057834/amp
******
https://youtu.be/SKILSvoeQgc
Strange that you didn't quote ALL the reasons for this?
50 tons a week? Over the whole of the tesco empire? Thats not even two trailer loads..... I remember the times when supermarkets used to bin thousands of tons of food!
50 tons is 50 tonnes of food being destroyed .
How many on the breadline could have used this food ?
In the year 2019-20, Tesco had an annual figure of 67000 tons food wastage, after donations to charity.
Some went for cattle feed, but happily they are committed to reducing this figure further.
Link to Source of proof for your claim please
Otherwise its just guff .
??
I'm no shouty man. If I post facts, then thats exactly what they are!
So no link .
Commenting on a thread where Tescos have reported stuff in a link provided , you respond with something that you havent corroborated with a link .
Ill believe the link for now
Not what some a n other pulls out of his own head.
I was going to post the link for you so that maybe the debate could move on but I really cant be arsed as its so easy to find, just google tesco food waste 2019-2020 you will find it easy enough if you are truly interested that is.
Nah
Ill wait for you to c&p it for me in here
Thanks .
Does it explain the £2billion fall in the
1st quarter of food& drink exports as well ?
You will be waiting then. I didn't post it in first place so...and I guess the other guy can't be bothered either. As regards the 2 billion fall I have no idea if it explains it, I dont even know for sure there has been a 2billion fall in the 1st quarter and I cant be bothered to research it either.
https://www.ft.com/content/e93a6512-73de-486d-9e00-80d9c8aa3ca1
I posted 1 of many links so people
Didnt have to go and search to hard .
Oh well
Dig that head a little deeper
Into the sand , mind how you go .
I see your link and normally the ft is behind a pay wall for me. I am not digging my head in the sand at all, I didn't vote for brexit and am not surprised that a lot of these things are happening, and even if i could read your link I do like to check my information from more than one source so that I get a more unbiased, balanced view on thing's though, so quit with the insults thanks."
What Insults ?
Head in the sand is just someone claiming
something with no link to prove a fact .
Dont think its an insult
Think of it as a chance to prove a point !
"To move the debate on" if you like |
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"Tescos throwing away 50 tonnes of food a week
Due to s Shortage of drivers due to the Exodus
By EU based drivers .
The Army is being considered to be put on
Standby to cover shortages of drivers .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/consumer/tesco-food-waste-50-tonnes-hgv-driver-shortage-crisis-1057834/amp
******
https://youtu.be/SKILSvoeQgc
Strange that you didn't quote ALL the reasons for this?
50 tons a week? Over the whole of the tesco empire? Thats not even two trailer loads..... I remember the times when supermarkets used to bin thousands of tons of food!
50 tons is 50 tonnes of food being destroyed .
How many on the breadline could have used this food ?
In the year 2019-20, Tesco had an annual figure of 67000 tons food wastage, after donations to charity.
Some went for cattle feed, but happily they are committed to reducing this figure further.
Link to Source of proof for your claim please
Otherwise its just guff .
??
I'm no shouty man. If I post facts, then thats exactly what they are!
So no link .
Commenting on a thread where Tescos have reported stuff in a link provided , you respond with something that you havent corroborated with a link .
Ill believe the link for now
Not what some a n other pulls out of his own head.
I was going to post the link for you so that maybe the debate could move on but I really cant be arsed as its so easy to find, just google tesco food waste 2019-2020 you will find it easy enough if you are truly interested that is.
Nah
Ill wait for you to c&p it for me in here
Thanks .
Does it explain the £2billion fall in the
1st quarter of food& drink exports as well ?
You will be waiting then. I didn't post it in first place so...and I guess the other guy can't be bothered either. As regards the 2 billion fall I have no idea if it explains it, I dont even know for sure there has been a 2billion fall in the 1st quarter and I cant be bothered to research it either.
https://www.ft.com/content/e93a6512-73de-486d-9e00-80d9c8aa3ca1
I posted 1 of many links so people
Didnt have to go and search to hard .
Oh well
Dig that head a little deeper
Into the sand , mind how you go .
I see your link and normally the ft is behind a pay wall for me. I am not digging my head in the sand at all, I didn't vote for brexit and am not surprised that a lot of these things are happening, and even if i could read your link I do like to check my information from more than one source so that I get a more unbiased, balanced view on thing's though, so quit with the insults thanks.
What Insults ?
Head in the sand is just someone claiming
something with no link to prove a fact .
Dont think its an insult
Think of it as a chance to prove a point !
"To move the debate on" if you like "
The way you used it was in my opinion. I have no point to prove, I didn't post the original statement about tesco that was someone else, I just pointed out how easy it is to find and verify and its not behind a paywall like the ft. |
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"Tescos throwing away 50 tonnes of food a week
Due to s Shortage of drivers due to the Exodus
By EU based drivers .
The Army is being considered to be put on
Standby to cover shortages of drivers .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/consumer/tesco-food-waste-50-tonnes-hgv-driver-shortage-crisis-1057834/amp
******
https://youtu.be/SKILSvoeQgc
Strange that you didn't quote ALL the reasons for this?
50 tons a week? Over the whole of the tesco empire? Thats not even two trailer loads..... I remember the times when supermarkets used to bin thousands of tons of food!
50 tons is 50 tonnes of food being destroyed .
How many on the breadline could have used this food ?
In the year 2019-20, Tesco had an annual figure of 67000 tons food wastage, after donations to charity.
Some went for cattle feed, but happily they are committed to reducing this figure further.
Link to Source of proof for your claim please
Otherwise its just guff .
??
I'm no shouty man. If I post facts, then thats exactly what they are!
So no link .
Commenting on a thread where Tescos have reported stuff in a link provided , you respond with something that you havent corroborated with a link .
Ill believe the link for now
Not what some a n other pulls out of his own head.
I was going to post the link for you so that maybe the debate could move on but I really cant be arsed as its so easy to find, just google tesco food waste 2019-2020 you will find it easy enough if you are truly interested that is.
Nah
Ill wait for you to c&p it for me in here
Thanks .
Does it explain the £2billion fall in the
1st quarter of food& drink exports as well ?
You will be waiting then. I didn't post it in first place so...and I guess the other guy can't be bothered either. As regards the 2 billion fall I have no idea if it explains it, I dont even know for sure there has been a 2billion fall in the 1st quarter and I cant be bothered to research it either.
https://www.ft.com/content/e93a6512-73de-486d-9e00-80d9c8aa3ca1
I posted 1 of many links so people
Didnt have to go and search to hard .
Oh well
Dig that head a little deeper
Into the sand , mind how you go .
I see your link and normally the ft is behind a pay wall for me. I am not digging my head in the sand at all, I didn't vote for brexit and am not surprised that a lot of these things are happening, and even if i could read your link I do like to check my information from more than one source so that I get a more unbiased, balanced view on thing's though, so quit with the insults thanks.
What Insults ?
Head in the sand is just someone claiming
something with no link to prove a fact .
Dont think its an insult
Think of it as a chance to prove a point !
"To move the debate on" if you like
The way you used it was in my opinion. I have no point to prove, I didn't post the original statement about tesco that was someone else, I just pointed out how easy it is to find and verify and its not behind a paywall like the ft."
The FT was one example its freely available
In the independent the guardian etc .
Back to the point about tesco .
We are only 6 months in so 26 weeks
& 50 tonnes a week are being dumped .
Its in the opening statement backed up
By a link .
To claim Tescos dumped in 2019 without
supplying a link will be treated with the disdain
It deserves . Nothing but Hocum ! |
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"Tescos throwing away 50 tonnes of food a week
Due to s Shortage of drivers due to the Exodus
By EU based drivers .
The Army is being considered to be put on
Standby to cover shortages of drivers .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/consumer/tesco-food-waste-50-tonnes-hgv-driver-shortage-crisis-1057834/amp
******
https://youtu.be/SKILSvoeQgc
Strange that you didn't quote ALL the reasons for this?
50 tons a week? Over the whole of the tesco empire? Thats not even two trailer loads..... I remember the times when supermarkets used to bin thousands of tons of food!
50 tons is 50 tonnes of food being destroyed .
How many on the breadline could have used this food ?
In the year 2019-20, Tesco had an annual figure of 67000 tons food wastage, after donations to charity.
Some went for cattle feed, but happily they are committed to reducing this figure further.
Link to Source of proof for your claim please
Otherwise its just guff .
??
I'm no shouty man. If I post facts, then thats exactly what they are!
So no link .
Commenting on a thread where Tescos have reported stuff in a link provided , you respond with something that you havent corroborated with a link .
Ill believe the link for now
Not what some a n other pulls out of his own head.
I was going to post the link for you so that maybe the debate could move on but I really cant be arsed as its so easy to find, just google tesco food waste 2019-2020 you will find it easy enough if you are truly interested that is.
Nah
Ill wait for you to c&p it for me in here
Thanks .
Does it explain the £2billion fall in the
1st quarter of food& drink exports as well ?
You will be waiting then. I didn't post it in first place so...and I guess the other guy can't be bothered either. As regards the 2 billion fall I have no idea if it explains it, I dont even know for sure there has been a 2billion fall in the 1st quarter and I cant be bothered to research it either.
https://www.ft.com/content/e93a6512-73de-486d-9e00-80d9c8aa3ca1
I posted 1 of many links so people
Didnt have to go and search to hard .
Oh well
Dig that head a little deeper
Into the sand , mind how you go .
I see your link and normally the ft is behind a pay wall for me. I am not digging my head in the sand at all, I didn't vote for brexit and am not surprised that a lot of these things are happening, and even if i could read your link I do like to check my information from more than one source so that I get a more unbiased, balanced view on thing's though, so quit with the insults thanks.
What Insults ?
Head in the sand is just someone claiming
something with no link to prove a fact .
Dont think its an insult
Think of it as a chance to prove a point !
"To move the debate on" if you like
The way you used it was in my opinion. I have no point to prove, I didn't post the original statement about tesco that was someone else, I just pointed out how easy it is to find and verify and its not behind a paywall like the ft.
The FT was one example its freely available
In the independent the guardian etc .
Back to the point about tesco .
We are only 6 months in so 26 weeks
& 50 tonnes a week are being dumped .
Its in the opening statement backed up
By a link .
To claim Tescos dumped in 2019 without
supplying a link will be treated with the disdain
It deserves . Nothing but Hocum !"
Here
"Overall, this led to the amount of food going to waste in Tesco’s UK operations falling by 17% to 44,297 tonnes (0.45% sales) compared to the previous year"
From Tesco themselves
https://www.tescoplc.com/news/2019/tesco-calls-for-more-businesses-to-publish-food-waste-data-as-amount-of-food-wasted-in-tesco-is-down-17/ |
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"Tescos throwing away 50 tonnes of food a week
Due to s Shortage of drivers due to the Exodus
By EU based drivers .
The Army is being considered to be put on
Standby to cover shortages of drivers .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/consumer/tesco-food-waste-50-tonnes-hgv-driver-shortage-crisis-1057834/amp
******
https://youtu.be/SKILSvoeQgc
Strange that you didn't quote ALL the reasons for this?
50 tons a week? Over the whole of the tesco empire? Thats not even two trailer loads..... I remember the times when supermarkets used to bin thousands of tons of food!
50 tons is 50 tonnes of food being destroyed .
How many on the breadline could have used this food ?
In the year 2019-20, Tesco had an annual figure of 67000 tons food wastage, after donations to charity.
Some went for cattle feed, but happily they are committed to reducing this figure further.
Link to Source of proof for your claim please
Otherwise its just guff .
??
I'm no shouty man. If I post facts, then thats exactly what they are!
So no link .
Commenting on a thread where Tescos have reported stuff in a link provided , you respond with something that you havent corroborated with a link .
Ill believe the link for now
Not what some a n other pulls out of his own head.
I was going to post the link for you so that maybe the debate could move on but I really cant be arsed as its so easy to find, just google tesco food waste 2019-2020 you will find it easy enough if you are truly interested that is.
Nah
Ill wait for you to c&p it for me in here
Thanks .
Does it explain the £2billion fall in the
1st quarter of food& drink exports as well ?
You will be waiting then. I didn't post it in first place so...and I guess the other guy can't be bothered either. As regards the 2 billion fall I have no idea if it explains it, I dont even know for sure there has been a 2billion fall in the 1st quarter and I cant be bothered to research it either.
https://www.ft.com/content/e93a6512-73de-486d-9e00-80d9c8aa3ca1
I posted 1 of many links so people
Didnt have to go and search to hard .
Oh well
Dig that head a little deeper
Into the sand , mind how you go .
I see your link and normally the ft is behind a pay wall for me. I am not digging my head in the sand at all, I didn't vote for brexit and am not surprised that a lot of these things are happening, and even if i could read your link I do like to check my information from more than one source so that I get a more unbiased, balanced view on thing's though, so quit with the insults thanks.
What Insults ?
Head in the sand is just someone claiming
something with no link to prove a fact .
Dont think its an insult
Think of it as a chance to prove a point !
"To move the debate on" if you like
The way you used it was in my opinion. I have no point to prove, I didn't post the original statement about tesco that was someone else, I just pointed out how easy it is to find and verify and its not behind a paywall like the ft.
The FT was one example its freely available
In the independent the guardian etc .
Back to the point about tesco .
We are only 6 months in so 26 weeks
& 50 tonnes a week are being dumped .
Its in the opening statement backed up
By a link .
To claim Tescos dumped in 2019 without
supplying a link will be treated with the disdain
It deserves . Nothing but Hocum !
Here
"Overall, this led to the amount of food going to waste in Tesco’s UK operations falling by 17% to 44,297 tonnes (0.45% sales) compared to the previous year"
From Tesco themselves
https://www.tescoplc.com/news/2019/tesco-calls-for-more-businesses-to-publish-food-waste-data-as-amount-of-food-wasted-in-tesco-is-down-17/"
Thanks ,
As i thought this is just an article about
Wastage of unsold food items & bad stock buying ..
Nothing to do with Tescos binning 50 tonnes of food
A week because of a lack of drivers .
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over a year ago
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"Tescos throwing away 50 tonnes of food a week
Due to s Shortage of drivers due to the Exodus
By EU based drivers .
The Army is being considered to be put on
Standby to cover shortages of drivers .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/consumer/tesco-food-waste-50-tonnes-hgv-driver-shortage-crisis-1057834/amp
******
https://youtu.be/SKILSvoeQgc
Strange that you didn't quote ALL the reasons for this?
50 tons a week? Over the whole of the tesco empire? Thats not even two trailer loads..... I remember the times when supermarkets used to bin thousands of tons of food!
50 tons is 50 tonnes of food being destroyed .
How many on the breadline could have used this food ?
In the year 2019-20, Tesco had an annual figure of 67000 tons food wastage, after donations to charity.
Some went for cattle feed, but happily they are committed to reducing this figure further.
Link to Source of proof for your claim please
Otherwise its just guff .
??
I'm no shouty man. If I post facts, then thats exactly what they are!
So no link .
Commenting on a thread where Tescos have reported stuff in a link provided , you respond with something that you havent corroborated with a link .
Ill believe the link for now
Not what some a n other pulls out of his own head.
I was going to post the link for you so that maybe the debate could move on but I really cant be arsed as its so easy to find, just google tesco food waste 2019-2020 you will find it easy enough if you are truly interested that is.
Nah
Ill wait for you to c&p it for me in here
Thanks .
Does it explain the £2billion fall in the
1st quarter of food& drink exports as well ?
You will be waiting then. I didn't post it in first place so...and I guess the other guy can't be bothered either. As regards the 2 billion fall I have no idea if it explains it, I dont even know for sure there has been a 2billion fall in the 1st quarter and I cant be bothered to research it either.
https://www.ft.com/content/e93a6512-73de-486d-9e00-80d9c8aa3ca1
I posted 1 of many links so people
Didnt have to go and search to hard .
Oh well
Dig that head a little deeper
Into the sand , mind how you go .
I see your link and normally the ft is behind a pay wall for me. I am not digging my head in the sand at all, I didn't vote for brexit and am not surprised that a lot of these things are happening, and even if i could read your link I do like to check my information from more than one source so that I get a more unbiased, balanced view on thing's though, so quit with the insults thanks.
What Insults ?
Head in the sand is just someone claiming
something with no link to prove a fact .
Dont think its an insult
Think of it as a chance to prove a point !
"To move the debate on" if you like
The way you used it was in my opinion. I have no point to prove, I didn't post the original statement about tesco that was someone else, I just pointed out how easy it is to find and verify and its not behind a paywall like the ft.
The FT was one example its freely available
In the independent the guardian etc .
Back to the point about tesco .
We are only 6 months in so 26 weeks
& 50 tonnes a week are being dumped .
Its in the opening statement backed up
By a link .
To claim Tescos dumped in 2019 without
supplying a link will be treated with the disdain
It deserves . Nothing but Hocum !
Here
"Overall, this led to the amount of food going to waste in Tesco’s UK operations falling by 17% to 44,297 tonnes (0.45% sales) compared to the previous year"
From Tesco themselves
https://www.tescoplc.com/news/2019/tesco-calls-for-more-businesses-to-publish-food-waste-data-as-amount-of-food-wasted-in-tesco-is-down-17/
Thanks ,
As i thought this is just an article about
Wastage of unsold food items & bad stock buying ..
Nothing to do with Tescos binning 50 tonnes of food
A week because of a lack of drivers .
"
Always a way to try spin it I suppose.
Teaco reported in 2019 that they wasted 44k tonnes of food and you're worried about 2.5k |
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"Tescos throwing away 50 tonnes of food a week
Due to s Shortage of drivers due to the Exodus
By EU based drivers .
The Army is being considered to be put on
Standby to cover shortages of drivers .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/consumer/tesco-food-waste-50-tonnes-hgv-driver-shortage-crisis-1057834/amp
******
https://youtu.be/SKILSvoeQgc
Strange that you didn't quote ALL the reasons for this?
50 tons a week? Over the whole of the tesco empire? Thats not even two trailer loads..... I remember the times when supermarkets used to bin thousands of tons of food!
50 tons is 50 tonnes of food being destroyed .
How many on the breadline could have used this food ?
In the year 2019-20, Tesco had an annual figure of 67000 tons food wastage, after donations to charity.
Some went for cattle feed, but happily they are committed to reducing this figure further.
Link to Source of proof for your claim please
Otherwise its just guff .
??
I'm no shouty man. If I post facts, then thats exactly what they are!
So no link .
Commenting on a thread where Tescos have reported stuff in a link provided , you respond with something that you havent corroborated with a link .
Ill believe the link for now
Not what some a n other pulls out of his own head.
I was going to post the link for you so that maybe the debate could move on but I really cant be arsed as its so easy to find, just google tesco food waste 2019-2020 you will find it easy enough if you are truly interested that is.
Nah
Ill wait for you to c&p it for me in here
Thanks .
Does it explain the £2billion fall in the
1st quarter of food& drink exports as well ?
You will be waiting then. I didn't post it in first place so...and I guess the other guy can't be bothered either. As regards the 2 billion fall I have no idea if it explains it, I dont even know for sure there has been a 2billion fall in the 1st quarter and I cant be bothered to research it either.
https://www.ft.com/content/e93a6512-73de-486d-9e00-80d9c8aa3ca1
I posted 1 of many links so people
Didnt have to go and search to hard .
Oh well
Dig that head a little deeper
Into the sand , mind how you go .
I see your link and normally the ft is behind a pay wall for me. I am not digging my head in the sand at all, I didn't vote for brexit and am not surprised that a lot of these things are happening, and even if i could read your link I do like to check my information from more than one source so that I get a more unbiased, balanced view on thing's though, so quit with the insults thanks.
What Insults ?
Head in the sand is just someone claiming
something with no link to prove a fact .
Dont think its an insult
Think of it as a chance to prove a point !
"To move the debate on" if you like
The way you used it was in my opinion. I have no point to prove, I didn't post the original statement about tesco that was someone else, I just pointed out how easy it is to find and verify and its not behind a paywall like the ft.
The FT was one example its freely available
In the independent the guardian etc .
Back to the point about tesco .
We are only 6 months in so 26 weeks
& 50 tonnes a week are being dumped .
Its in the opening statement backed up
By a link .
To claim Tescos dumped in 2019 without
supplying a link will be treated with the disdain
It deserves . Nothing but Hocum !
Here
"Overall, this led to the amount of food going to waste in Tesco’s UK operations falling by 17% to 44,297 tonnes (0.45% sales) compared to the previous year"
From Tesco themselves
https://www.tescoplc.com/news/2019/tesco-calls-for-more-businesses-to-publish-food-waste-data-as-amount-of-food-wasted-in-tesco-is-down-17/
Thanks ,
As i thought this is just an article about
Wastage of unsold food items & bad stock buying ..
Nothing to do with Tescos binning 50 tonnes of food
A week because of a lack of drivers .
Always a way to try spin it I suppose.
Teaco reported in 2019 that they wasted 44k tonnes of food and you're worried about 2.5k "
Not at all
This is just waste from lack of drivers
They havent as yet mentioned
What is being dumped due to being unsold .
You do understand the 2 will run concurrently
Dont you . Im sure its just an oversight on
Your part . I know it gets hectic trying to
Defend the indefensible .
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By *amish SMan
over a year ago
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"Tescos throwing away 50 tonnes of food a week
Due to s Shortage of drivers due to the Exodus
By EU based drivers .
The Army is being considered to be put on
Standby to cover shortages of drivers .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/consumer/tesco-food-waste-50-tonnes-hgv-driver-shortage-crisis-1057834/amp
******
https://youtu.be/SKILSvoeQgc
Strange that you didn't quote ALL the reasons for this?
50 tons a week? Over the whole of the tesco empire? Thats not even two trailer loads..... I remember the times when supermarkets used to bin thousands of tons of food!
Think you’re missing the worrying point of the report.
Tesco a company with very deep pockets and one of the most sophisticated logistics systems in the world can’t get trucks!!
For them to be admitting this is a signal to government.
Imagine how the lesser mortals in the food and drinks industry are coping??
It’s becoming a major problem . No drivers due to EU nationals going home. This driver shortage has been growing for years but the EU workers plugged a large part of the gap. They are not available now. Covid played a part but Brexit nailed the lid on the coffin.
The FTA and RHA warned about this but it was put in the project fear category. Well it seems yet another project reality. . "
Then they need to sack their logistics manager then. If they have the money, then pay for the drivers, it's called economics.
Sounds very much like Tesco want cheap underpaid drivers like those from Eastern Europe, pay decent wages and get decent drivers.
Yes, the RHA warned of this not now, but decades ago when the UK opened up its roads to EU hauliers.
The message is that this country needs to get back on its feet, pay proper wages, and not rely on market distorting foreign labour.
That time is here, and it will appear to cost more, but effectively just levels us up with the neighbouring countries.
By the way it is not a Brexit thing, ironically, even the rich EU states are complaining of lack of cheap drivers from Eastern European members, says it all really. |
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"Funny how quickly that gloating triumphalism vanished.
only to be replaced by the boomers default position of hate and intolerance directed at those generations that follow them
And of course blaming the eu.
Who's blaming the EU for a shortage of drivers? It's a shortage of those in this country who are willing to work that's the problem. Remind me again how many are unemployed in this country "
Its not cheap to get your HGV licence now and just cant go and get your class 1. Like everything in this country have made it hard work with all the extra red tape. |
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"Funny how quickly that gloating triumphalism vanished.
only to be replaced by the boomers default position of hate and intolerance directed at those generations that follow them
And of course blaming the eu.
Who's blaming the EU for a shortage of drivers? It's a shortage of those in this country who are willing to work that's the problem. Remind me again how many are unemployed in this country
Its not cheap to get your HGV licence now and just cant go and get your class 1. Like everything in this country have made it hard work with all the extra red tape. "
There is no extra red tape getting a hgv 1 at all, the process for application is exactly the same as it was. |
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Just hang in there until liz tuss cuts a few world beating trade deals with, say Turkey Brazil and india,the first requirement of a deal with these countries will be free movement of people so you will have a influx of millions of poor people from these countries, the UK will surely find a few thousand hgv drivers from among the millions of emigrants from these countries,
Another Brexit bonus, you can control your borders |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Tescos throwing away 50 tonnes of food a week
Due to s Shortage of drivers due to the Exodus
By EU based drivers .
The Army is being considered to be put on
Standby to cover shortages of drivers .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/consumer/tesco-food-waste-50-tonnes-hgv-driver-shortage-crisis-1057834/amp
******
https://youtu.be/SKILSvoeQgc
Strange that you didn't quote ALL the reasons for this?
50 tons a week? Over the whole of the tesco empire? Thats not even two trailer loads..... I remember the times when supermarkets used to bin thousands of tons of food!
Think you’re missing the worrying point of the report.
Tesco a company with very deep pockets and one of the most sophisticated logistics systems in the world can’t get trucks!!
For them to be admitting this is a signal to government.
Imagine how the lesser mortals in the food and drinks industry are coping??
It’s becoming a major problem . No drivers due to EU nationals going home. This driver shortage has been growing for years but the EU workers plugged a large part of the gap. They are not available now. Covid played a part but Brexit nailed the lid on the coffin.
The FTA and RHA warned about this but it was put in the project fear category. Well it seems yet another project reality. .
Then they need to sack their logistics manager then. If they have the money, then pay for the drivers, it's called economics.
Sounds very much like Tesco want cheap underpaid drivers like those from Eastern Europe, pay decent wages and get decent drivers.
Yes, the RHA warned of this not now, but decades ago when the UK opened up its roads to EU hauliers.
The message is that this country needs to get back on its feet, pay proper wages, and not rely on market distorting foreign labour.
That time is here, and it will appear to cost more, but effectively just levels us up with the neighbouring countries.
By the way it is not a Brexit thing, ironically, even the rich EU states are complaining of lack of cheap drivers from Eastern European members, says it all really. "
Have you got a link for the claim you have made about
The rich eu states lacking in eastern european drivers .
Tesco have never stated it was short of eastern european
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"Tescos throwing away 50 tonnes of food a week
Due to s Shortage of drivers due to the Exodus
By EU based drivers .
The Army is being considered to be put on
Standby to cover shortages of drivers .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/consumer/tesco-food-waste-50-tonnes-hgv-driver-shortage-crisis-1057834/amp
******
https://youtu.be/SKILSvoeQgc
Strange that you didn't quote ALL the reasons for this?
50 tons a week? Over the whole of the tesco empire? Thats not even two trailer loads..... I remember the times when supermarkets used to bin thousands of tons of food!
Think you’re missing the worrying point of the report.
Tesco a company with very deep pockets and one of the most sophisticated logistics systems in the world can’t get trucks!!
For them to be admitting this is a signal to government.
Imagine how the lesser mortals in the food and drinks industry are coping??
It’s becoming a major problem . No drivers due to EU nationals going home. This driver shortage has been growing for years but the EU workers plugged a large part of the gap. They are not available now. Covid played a part but Brexit nailed the lid on the coffin.
The FTA and RHA warned about this but it was put in the project fear category. Well it seems yet another project reality. . " I think you are missing the point over 30,000 hgv driving tests have been cancelled due to covid which is a very large part . |
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over a year ago
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Between me and my mate's we have 10 hgv and tanker licences.only two of us use them mainly because over the years wages have been cut due to European driver's.better working stacking shelf's no risk to license and better money some companies deserve what they get profit over wages. |
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"Between me and my mate's we have 10 hgv and tanker licences.only two of us use them mainly because over the years wages have been cut due to European driver's.better working stacking shelf's no risk to license and better money some companies deserve what they get profit over wages."
Yep, it’s the poorest paid who are benefiting most from Brexit |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
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"Between me and my mate's we have 10 hgv and tanker licences.only two of us use them mainly because over the years wages have been cut due to European driver's.better working stacking shelf's no risk to license and better money some companies deserve what they get profit over wages.
Yep, it’s the poorest paid who are benefiting most from Brexit"
That would be the biggest bonus if it happens across all sectors, no wonder all the socialists on here are so up in arms over brexit the reasons to vote labour will shrink even more. |
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"Between me and my mate's we have 10 hgv and tanker licences.only two of us use them mainly because over the years wages have been cut due to European driver's.better working stacking shelf's no risk to license and better money some companies deserve what they get profit over wages.
Yep, it’s the poorest paid who are benefiting most from Brexit"
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"Tescos throwing away 50 tonnes of food a week
Due to s Shortage of drivers due to the Exodus
By EU based drivers .
The Army is being considered to be put on
Standby to cover shortages of drivers .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/consumer/tesco-food-waste-50-tonnes-hgv-driver-shortage-crisis-1057834/amp
******
https://youtu.be/SKILSvoeQgc
"
Ireland is in the EU and we have a severe shortage of truck drivers.
Mostly due to the ever increasing costs of becoming a driver and very low wages.
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"Tescos throwing away 50 tonnes of food a week
Due to s Shortage of drivers due to the Exodus
By EU based drivers .
The Army is being considered to be put on
Standby to cover shortages of drivers .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/consumer/tesco-food-waste-50-tonnes-hgv-driver-shortage-crisis-1057834/amp
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https://youtu.be/SKILSvoeQgc
Ireland is in the EU and we have a severe shortage of truck drivers.
Mostly due to the ever increasing costs of becoming a driver and very low wages.
"
From the Irish Trucker magazine:
“The skills shortage is made more severe as many firms have become reliant on eastern European workers to fill gaps, a recruitment strategy that is likely to prove more difficult in future, once the UK leaves the European Union.
It is estimated that out of the UK’s 250,000 drivers, between 43,000-60,000 are from the European Union. Earlier this year the Freight Transport Association warned that the availability of migrant drivers was declining.“
Looks like they’re also gonna have to put wages up, so the lowest paid in Ireland also benefits from Brexit |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"Tescos throwing away 50 tonnes of food a week
Due to s Shortage of drivers due to the Exodus
By EU based drivers .
The Army is being considered to be put on
Standby to cover shortages of drivers .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/consumer/tesco-food-waste-50-tonnes-hgv-driver-shortage-crisis-1057834/amp
******
https://youtu.be/SKILSvoeQgc
Strange that you didn't quote ALL the reasons for this?
50 tons a week? Over the whole of the tesco empire? Thats not even two trailer loads..... I remember the times when supermarkets used to bin thousands of tons of food!
Think you’re missing the worrying point of the report.
Tesco a company with very deep pockets and one of the most sophisticated logistics systems in the world can’t get trucks!!
For them to be admitting this is a signal to government.
Imagine how the lesser mortals in the food and drinks industry are coping??
It’s becoming a major problem . No drivers due to EU nationals going home. This driver shortage has been growing for years but the EU workers plugged a large part of the gap. They are not available now. Covid played a part but Brexit nailed the lid on the coffin.
The FTA and RHA warned about this but it was put in the project fear category. Well it seems yet another project reality. .
Then they need to sack their logistics manager then. If they have the money, then pay for the drivers, it's called economics.
Sounds very much like Tesco want cheap underpaid drivers like those from Eastern Europe, pay decent wages and get decent drivers.
Yes, the RHA warned of this not now, but decades ago when the UK opened up its roads to EU hauliers.
The message is that this country needs to get back on its feet, pay proper wages, and not rely on market distorting foreign labour.
That time is here, and it will appear to cost more, but effectively just levels us up with the neighbouring countries.
By the way it is not a Brexit thing, ironically, even the rich EU states are complaining of lack of cheap drivers from Eastern European members, says it all really. "
The imbalance of goods drove the U.K. hauliers away from international work not foreign hauliers. We don’t export as much as we used to since thatcher destroyed a lot of manufacturing As a result the U.K. haulage companies would mostly be running out of the country empty to bring an import in.
The primary loads come from the continent and so by its nature is brought by foreign hauliers . Nothing to do with allowing foreign hauliers in causing cheap drivers. We don’t have exports!!!!
The drivers employed in the U.K. are on the same money as U.K. national drivers. It’s a myth that it was cheap Labour. We employ them and they work hard without complaint but always on the same money. The Union reps would eat us alive if we used cheap labour.
The driver shortage is a Europe wide problem that’s true, however good wages brought Eastern Europeans to alleviate the problem a little in the U.K. it is now much worse here in the U.K. because the Eastern European’s have gone home. It has definitely been made worse by Brexit. One of our hauliers has had 40 drivers leave the UK due to Brexit. He’s in trouble.
U.K. nationals don’t want the work. They want 9-5 and a desk . It’s too much like hard work for most. It’s not just the money. The facilities for drivers around the country are appalling and getting worse. Shitting in a lay-bye because there’s not enough parking with facilities is not appealing at all.
Closing truck stops and services not catering to drivers in any real, way shows how little respect get have. Take a drive around South Mimms services one evening snd see the chaos caused by lack of truck parking. Remember by law they have to stop. So if they can’t park then it’s down some dodgy industrial estate without any facilities whatsoever.
It’s a Cinderella career but no fairy godmother on the horizon.
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"Tescos throwing away 50 tonnes of food a week
Due to s Shortage of drivers due to the Exodus
By EU based drivers .
The Army is being considered to be put on
Standby to cover shortages of drivers .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/consumer/tesco-food-waste-50-tonnes-hgv-driver-shortage-crisis-1057834/amp
******
https://youtu.be/SKILSvoeQgc
Strange that you didn't quote ALL the reasons for this?
50 tons a week? Over the whole of the tesco empire? Thats not even two trailer loads..... I remember the times when supermarkets used to bin thousands of tons of food!
Think you’re missing the worrying point of the report.
Tesco a company with very deep pockets and one of the most sophisticated logistics systems in the world can’t get trucks!!
For them to be admitting this is a signal to government.
Imagine how the lesser mortals in the food and drinks industry are coping??
It’s becoming a major problem . No drivers due to EU nationals going home. This driver shortage has been growing for years but the EU workers plugged a large part of the gap. They are not available now. Covid played a part but Brexit nailed the lid on the coffin.
The FTA and RHA warned about this but it was put in the project fear category. Well it seems yet another project reality. . I think you are missing the point over 30,000 hgv driving tests have been cancelled due to covid which is a very large part ."
It had made a big problem worse but Covid isn’t the cause. |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"Between me and my mate's we have 10 hgv and tanker licences.only two of us use them mainly because over the years wages have been cut due to European driver's.better working stacking shelf's no risk to license and better money some companies deserve what they get profit over wages."
The likes of Stobarts and Wincanton taking over the premium tanker work and slashing wages has brought the overall levels down that’s true. It’s not due to foreign drivers as most tanker driver outfits used to be full of nepotism so the foreign drivers wouldn’t get a look in. The drive for cheaper logistics from Tesco etc has put a lid on wages not the EU drivers.
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"Tescos throwing away 50 tonnes of food a week
Due to s Shortage of drivers due to the Exodus
By EU based drivers .
The Army is being considered to be put on
Standby to cover shortages of drivers .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/consumer/tesco-food-waste-50-tonnes-hgv-driver-shortage-crisis-1057834/amp
******
https://youtu.be/SKILSvoeQgc
Strange that you didn't quote ALL the reasons for this?
50 tons a week? Over the whole of the tesco empire? Thats not even two trailer loads..... I remember the times when supermarkets used to bin thousands of tons of food!
Think you’re missing the worrying point of the report.
Tesco a company with very deep pockets and one of the most sophisticated logistics systems in the world can’t get trucks!!
For them to be admitting this is a signal to government.
Imagine how the lesser mortals in the food and drinks industry are coping??
It’s becoming a major problem . No drivers due to EU nationals going home. This driver shortage has been growing for years but the EU workers plugged a large part of the gap. They are not available now. Covid played a part but Brexit nailed the lid on the coffin.
The FTA and RHA warned about this but it was put in the project fear category. Well it seems yet another project reality. .
Then they need to sack their logistics manager then. If they have the money, then pay for the drivers, it's called economics.
Sounds very much like Tesco want cheap underpaid drivers like those from Eastern Europe, pay decent wages and get decent drivers.
Yes, the RHA warned of this not now, but decades ago when the UK opened up its roads to EU hauliers.
The message is that this country needs to get back on its feet, pay proper wages, and not rely on market distorting foreign labour.
That time is here, and it will appear to cost more, but effectively just levels us up with the neighbouring countries.
By the way it is not a Brexit thing, ironically, even the rich EU states are complaining of lack of cheap drivers from Eastern European members, says it all really.
The imbalance of goods drove the U.K. hauliers away from international work not foreign hauliers. We don’t export as much as we used to since thatcher destroyed a lot of manufacturing As a result the U.K. haulage companies would mostly be running out of the country empty to bring an import in.
The primary loads come from the continent and so by its nature is brought by foreign hauliers . Nothing to do with allowing foreign hauliers in causing cheap drivers. We don’t have exports!!!!
The drivers employed in the U.K. are on the same money as U.K. national drivers. It’s a myth that it was cheap Labour. We employ them and they work hard without complaint but always on the same money. The Union reps would eat us alive if we used cheap labour.
The driver shortage is a Europe wide problem that’s true, however good wages brought Eastern Europeans to alleviate the problem a little in the U.K. it is now much worse here in the U.K. because the Eastern European’s have gone home. It has definitely been made worse by Brexit. One of our hauliers has had 40 drivers leave the UK due to Brexit. He’s in trouble.
U.K. nationals don’t want the work. They want 9-5 and a desk . It’s too much like hard work for most. It’s not just the money. The facilities for drivers around the country are appalling and getting worse. Shitting in a lay-bye because there’s not enough parking with facilities is not appealing at all.
Closing truck stops and services not catering to drivers in any real, way shows how little respect get have. Take a drive around South Mimms services one evening snd see the chaos caused by lack of truck parking. Remember by law they have to stop. So if they can’t park then it’s down some dodgy industrial estate without any facilities whatsoever.
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And post Brexit market forces can now resolve these issues |
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Hmmm… I wonder if the driver shortage will spur the self driving vehicle evolution that is on it’s way? No truck stops needed. No working time regs. No driver to pay.
Seems like a no brainer for the supermarkets with their big haulage fleets, |
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"Hmmm… I wonder if the driver shortage will spur the self driving vehicle evolution that is on it’s way? No truck stops needed. No working time regs. No driver to pay.
Seems like a no brainer for the supermarkets with their big haulage fleets,"
Who knows but the driver shortage in Ireland applies across all sectors not least construction.
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"Hmmm… I wonder if the driver shortage will spur the self driving vehicle evolution that is on it’s way? No truck stops needed. No working time regs. No driver to pay.
Seems like a no brainer for the supermarkets with their big haulage fleets,"
Driverless is eventually coming, but as a poster above said, market forces will now make Tesco pay better, and indeed lobby better, for driver pay and conditions. |
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"Between me and my mate's we have 10 hgv and tanker licences.only two of us use them mainly because over the years wages have been cut due to European driver's.better working stacking shelf's no risk to license and better money some companies deserve what they get profit over wages.
The likes of Stobarts and Wincanton taking over the premium tanker work and slashing wages has brought the overall levels down that’s true. It’s not due to foreign drivers as most tanker driver outfits used to be full of nepotism so the foreign drivers wouldn’t get a look in. The drive for cheaper logistics from Tesco etc has put a lid on wages not the EU drivers.
" yeah I agree I don't blame foreign drivers I blame the transport companies. im lucky my company have always paid good but I remember when few friends used to work for Tesco then Eddie took contract over and reduced the wages so they left and never drove again . |
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"Between me and my mate's we have 10 hgv and tanker licences.only two of us use them mainly because over the years wages have been cut due to European driver's.better working stacking shelf's no risk to license and better money some companies deserve what they get profit over wages.
The likes of Stobarts and Wincanton taking over the premium tanker work and slashing wages has brought the overall levels down that’s true. It’s not due to foreign drivers as most tanker driver outfits used to be full of nepotism so the foreign drivers wouldn’t get a look in. The drive for cheaper logistics from Tesco etc has put a lid on wages not the EU drivers.
yeah I agree I don't blame foreign drivers I blame the transport companies. im lucky my company have always paid good but I remember when few friends used to work for Tesco then Eddie took contract over and reduced the wages so they left and never drove again ."
I had a few friends who drove for Fina in the 80s and knew of drivers doing car deliveries. They were pushing £40k 30 years ago. I think it was Tank freight and Wincanton that started the elite tanker drivers fall ..
I have to say the tanker boys had a high lung cancer rate though which wasn’t so great. Never a proven link obviously . |
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"Hmmm… I wonder if the driver shortage will spur the self driving vehicle evolution that is on it’s way? No truck stops needed. No working time regs. No driver to pay.
Seems like a no brainer for the supermarkets with their big haulage fleets,
Driverless is eventually coming, but as a poster above said, market forces will now make Tesco pay better, and indeed lobby better, for driver pay and conditions. "
Drivers wages will go up . In the USA Walmart doubled the rates for drivers and fixed their problems but sucked drivers from other firms who had to shut.
Right now there are a few larger trucks being tested but it’s kept off the front pages. The payload will go from 28 to 34 tons and 2mtrs longer . Bigger trucks less drivers .
Driverless technology is here we just don’t trust it like aeroplanes . A plane can fly itself but not many people fancy getting on board without a pilot sitting there. |
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"https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jun/18/uk-faces-chilled-food-shortage-over-summer-logistics-industry-warns
Project fear"
Brexit, Covid and unusual high demand.
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"https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jun/18/uk-faces-chilled-food-shortage-over-summer-logistics-industry-warns
Project fear
Brexit, Covid and unusual high demand.
I didn't bother to read the rest of the article "
Good for you
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"Hmmm… I wonder if the driver shortage will spur the self driving vehicle evolution that is on it’s way? No truck stops needed. No working time regs. No driver to pay.
Seems like a no brainer for the supermarkets with their big haulage fleets,
Driverless is eventually coming, but as a poster above said, market forces will now make Tesco pay better, and indeed lobby better, for driver pay and conditions.
Drivers wages will go up . In the USA Walmart doubled the rates for drivers and fixed their problems but sucked drivers from other firms who had to shut.
Right now there are a few larger trucks being tested but it’s kept off the front pages. The payload will go from 28 to 34 tons and 2mtrs longer . Bigger trucks less drivers .
Driverless technology is here we just don’t trust it like aeroplanes . A plane can fly itself but not many people fancy getting on board without a pilot sitting there. "
uk roads weren't designed to carry vehicles of that weight. |
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