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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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https://www.itv.com/news/2021-06-18/lib-dems-secure-historic-by-election-win-in-chesham-and-amersham
Boris Johnson’s Tories have suffered a humiliating by-election defeat as the Liberal Democrats secured a historic win in Chesham and Amersham.
Lib Dem Sarah Green is the country’s newest MP after winning the seat, which has been a Conservative stronghold since its creation in 1974.
The contest was triggered by the death of former Cabinet minister Dame Cheryl Gillan, who took the seat with a majority of 16,233 in the 2019 general election – some 55% of the vote.
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Must be all that Tactical Voting . |
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"https://www.itv.com/news/2021-06-18/lib-dems-secure-historic-by-election-win-in-chesham-and-amersham
Boris Johnson’s Tories have suffered a humiliating by-election defeat as the Liberal Democrats secured a historic win in Chesham and Amersham.
Lib Dem Sarah Green is the country’s newest MP after winning the seat, which has been a Conservative stronghold since its creation in 1974.
The contest was triggered by the death of former Cabinet minister Dame Cheryl Gillan, who took the seat with a majority of 16,233 in the 2019 general election – some 55% of the vote.
Oops
Must be all that Tactical Voting ."
Yes, but the thing is... Hey look at yhe new royal yaght pics .... Hey is that the red arrows??  |
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"https://www.itv.com/news/2021-06-18/lib-dems-secure-historic-by-election-win-in-chesham-and-amersham
Boris Johnson’s Tories have suffered a humiliating by-election defeat as the Liberal Democrats secured a historic win in Chesham and Amersham.
Lib Dem Sarah Green is the country’s newest MP after winning the seat, which has been a Conservative stronghold since its creation in 1974.
The contest was triggered by the death of former Cabinet minister Dame Cheryl Gillan, who took the seat with a majority of 16,233 in the 2019 general election – some 55% of the vote.
Oops
Must be all that Tactical Voting .
Yes, but the thing is... Hey look at yhe new royal yaght pics .... Hey is that the red arrows?? "
Why we need to keep this news fresh
Boaty McBoat boy isnt getting such an easy ride anymore .
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"https://www.itv.com/news/2021-06-18/lib-dems-secure-historic-by-election-win-in-chesham-and-amersham
Boris Johnson’s Tories have suffered a humiliating by-election defeat as the Liberal Democrats secured a historic win in Chesham and Amersham.
Lib Dem Sarah Green is the country’s newest MP after winning the seat, which has been a Conservative stronghold since its creation in 1974.
The contest was triggered by the death of former Cabinet minister Dame Cheryl Gillan, who took the seat with a majority of 16,233 in the 2019 general election – some 55% of the vote.
Oops
Must be all that Tactical Voting .
Yes, but the thing is... Hey look at yhe new royal yaght pics .... Hey is that the red arrows??
Why we need to keep this news fresh
Boaty McBoat boy isnt getting such an easy ride anymore .
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
Local issues decided this.
The fact that HS2 cuts through the constituency, without any direct local benefit, and reform of planning laws, possibly allowing for more housing in the Chilterns, were the main driving factors.
Green issues seem to be more of an issue in the South.
Labour in 4th with just 600 odd votes.  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Local issues decided this.
The fact that HS2 cuts through the constituency, without any direct local benefit, and reform of planning laws, possibly allowing for more housing in the Chilterns, were the main driving factors.
Green issues seem to be more of an issue in the South.
Labour in 4th with just 600 odd votes. "
Tories neglecting their Heartlands rather than green issues .
600 votes
Maybe tactical voting was a thing after all
My apologies to the one i chastised
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
Sarah Green won with 21517 votes.
Cons 13489
Green 1488
Lab. 622
52% turnout.
Makes Batley and Spen more interesting. Should be a Labour win, but Cons may run them hard, as no Brexit party standing. |
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"Very surprised but heartened from this. Means some people have been paying attention.
Bad news for Labour though if they see resurgence of Lib Dem’s. "
Maybe time for agreeing a progressive alliance. |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"Local issues decided this.
The fact that HS2 cuts through the constituency, without any direct local benefit, and reform of planning laws, possibly allowing for more housing in the Chilterns, were the main driving factors.
Green issues seem to be more of an issue in the South.
Labour in 4th with just 600 odd votes. "
622 down from 11,000 odd votes they need to get their act together i think the labour party will be more worried than the Tories. |
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"Local issues decided this.
The fact that HS2 cuts through the constituency, without any direct local benefit, and reform of planning laws, possibly allowing for more housing in the Chilterns, were the main driving factors.
Green issues seem to be more of an issue in the South.
Labour in 4th with just 600 odd votes. 622 down from 11,000 odd votes they need to get their act together i think the labour party will be more worried than the Tories.
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But the Tories lost an ultra-safe seat. One that Labour never had a cat in hells chance of winning.
Tell me again who should be worried most?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but pretty sure HS2 was going that way at the last election.
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"Local issues decided this.
The fact that HS2 cuts through the constituency, without any direct local benefit, and reform of planning laws, possibly allowing for more housing in the Chilterns, were the main driving factors.
Green issues seem to be more of an issue in the South.
Labour in 4th with just 600 odd votes. 622 down from 11,000 odd votes they need to get their act together i think the labour party will be more worried than the Tories.
But the Tories lost an ultra-safe seat. One that Labour never had a cat in hells chance of winning.
Tell me again who should be worried most?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but pretty sure HS2 was going that way at the last election.
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Their vote was shrinking even in the last election, historically the government in power usually lose a good percentage of voters. The point is labour only got 1.6% of the vote the lowest percentage in any by election ever. |
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"Local issues decided this.
The fact that HS2 cuts through the constituency, without any direct local benefit, and reform of planning laws, possibly allowing for more housing in the Chilterns, were the main driving factors.
Green issues seem to be more of an issue in the South.
Labour in 4th with just 600 odd votes. 622 down from 11,000 odd votes they need to get their act together i think the labour party will be more worried than the Tories.
But the Tories lost an ultra-safe seat. One that Labour never had a cat in hells chance of winning.
Tell me again who should be worried most?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but pretty sure HS2 was going that way at the last election.
Their vote was shrinking even in the last election, historically the government in power usually lose a good percentage of voters. The point is labour only got 1.6% of the vote the lowest percentage in any by election ever."
Turnout 52% - 25% less than the 2019 GE
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"https://www.itv.com/news/2021-06-18/lib-dems-secure-historic-by-election-win-in-chesham-and-amersham
Boris Johnson’s Tories have suffered a humiliating by-election defeat as the Liberal Democrats secured a historic win in Chesham and Amersham.
Lib Dem Sarah Green is the country’s newest MP after winning the seat, which has been a Conservative stronghold since its creation in 1974.
The contest was triggered by the death of former Cabinet minister Dame Cheryl Gillan, who took the seat with a majority of 16,233 in the 2019 general election – some 55% of the vote.
Oops
Must be all that Tactical Voting .
Yes, but the thing is... Hey look at yhe new royal yaght pics .... Hey is that the red arrows??
Why we need to keep this news fresh
Boaty McBoat boy isnt getting such an easy ride anymore .
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Who ?? Is this some personal vendetta or open for sensible discussion instead of the usual tribal point scoring ? |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
bournemouth |
"the tory's have been slapped .... very hard indeed"
I'm sure they wont be happy but labour couldnt beat an egg at the moment, if they cant do better than they have in the last two by elections in the current situation then they have major problems. Perhaps they should bring back Jeremy  |
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"ITT
Suddenly a load of lib dem supporters appear
When the party hasnt even been mentioned in the politics forum for 18 months.
Lol.
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I have no love for the LibDems, in my mind they are partly responsible for the shit-show we have today. Enabling the coalition that set it all in motion.
However, they are not the Torys! They are also very keen on PR, as am I.
To achieve this it's looking more an more like an alliance is needed across all the progressive parties. In effect it's what's happened here, where do you think the Labour voters went, and how was there a 25% swing to the LibDems?
From my point of view, this should be seen as a template for removing this government at the next general election.
There is time to come to some agreements, and likely to be a couple more practices runs before. |
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"Local issues decided this.
The fact that HS2 cuts through the constituency, without any direct local benefit, and reform of planning laws, possibly allowing for more housing in the Chilterns, were the main driving factors.
Green issues seem to be more of an issue in the South.
Labour in 4th with just 600 odd votes. "
Has amersham ever been a socialist stronghold? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"ITT
Suddenly a load of lib dem supporters appear
When the party hasnt even been mentioned in the politics forum for 18 months.
Lol.
I have no love for the LibDems, in my mind they are partly responsible for the shit-show we have today. Enabling the coalition that set it all in motion.
However, they are not the Torys! They are also very keen on PR, as am I.
To achieve this it's looking more an more like an alliance is needed across all the progressive parties. In effect it's what's happened here, where do you think the Labour voters went, and how was there a 25% swing to the LibDems?
From my point of view, this should be seen as a template for removing this government at the next general election.
There is time to come to some agreements, and likely to be a couple more practices runs before."
Apparently tactical voting isn't a thing  |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
bournemouth |
"ITT
Suddenly a load of lib dem supporters appear
When the party hasnt even been mentioned in the politics forum for 18 months.
Lol.
I have no love for the LibDems, in my mind they are partly responsible for the shit-show we have today. Enabling the coalition that set it all in motion.
However, they are not the Torys! They are also very keen on PR, as am I.
To achieve this it's looking more an more like an alliance is needed across all the progressive parties. In effect it's what's happened here, where do you think the Labour voters went, and how was there a 25% swing to the LibDems?
From my point of view, this should be seen as a template for removing this government at the next general election.
There is time to come to some agreements, and likely to be a couple more practices runs before."
Progressive??? What a laugh, labour wanted to go back to mass nationalisation and dare interference and unions in charge, libs wanted to ignore a democratic vote, progressive my arse. Whst the country needs is a decent opposition with some policies, remind me again what labour policies are, oops they wont tell us apart from anything that the tories do is we are against. |
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So the government gets a slap in a mid term by election. Nothing new there then.
The traditional protest vote party actually win it. Nothing new there either.
The main opposition party loses its deposit and can only scrape 622 votes. Now that is a shock result.
Tactically it is a disaster for Labour as a resurgent Lib Dems would only split the left of centre vote even further.
At the next GE Tory voters will have one choice, left of centre voters will have three.
Welcome to the UKIP conundrum.
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"Very surprised but heartened from this. Means some people have been paying attention.
Bad news for Labour though if they see resurgence of Lib Dem’s.
Maybe time for agreeing a progressive alliance. "
Said that a while ago
You would think that at some point people would actually come to the realisation that all of Alex's promises actually mean jack shit.
We will level up the north
We will keep investment in the south
We will build a million new hospitals
Brexit will be wonderful.
The tory sheep of course will still turn out in their millions but surely there must a significant number who actually realise he is full of shit. |
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"ITT
Suddenly a load of lib dem supporters appear
When the party hasnt even been mentioned in the politics forum for 18 months.
Lol.
I have no love for the LibDems, in my mind they are partly responsible for the shit-show we have today. Enabling the coalition that set it all in motion.
However, they are not the Torys! They are also very keen on PR, as am I.
To achieve this it's looking more an more like an alliance is needed across all the progressive parties. In effect it's what's happened here, where do you think the Labour voters went, and how was there a 25% swing to the LibDems?
From my point of view, this should be seen as a template for removing this government at the next general election.
There is time to come to some agreements, and likely to be a couple more practices runs before."
Can't see the lib dems making any alliances after their previous experience, their NEC won't agree to it. |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
bournemouth |
"Very surprised but heartened from this. Means some people have been paying attention.
Bad news for Labour though if they see resurgence of Lib Dem’s.
Maybe time for agreeing a progressive alliance.
Said that a while ago
You would think that at some point people would actually come to the realisation that all of Alex's promises actually mean jack shit.
We will level up the north
We will keep investment in the south
We will build a million new hospitals
Brexit will be wonderful.
The tory sheep of course will still turn out in their millions but surely there must a significant number who actually realise he is full of shit."
So tories voters are sheep aka as thick and ignorant and labour supporters are the clever understanding ones , funny how the vast majority dont agree.
Delusional |
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"ITT
Suddenly a load of lib dem supporters appear
When the party hasnt even been mentioned in the politics forum for 18 months.
Lol.
I have no love for the LibDems, in my mind they are partly responsible for the shit-show we have today. Enabling the coalition that set it all in motion.
However, they are not the Torys! They are also very keen on PR, as am I.
To achieve this it's looking more an more like an alliance is needed across all the progressive parties. In effect it's what's happened here, where do you think the Labour voters went, and how was there a 25% swing to the LibDems?
From my point of view, this should be seen as a template for removing this government at the next general election.
There is time to come to some agreements, and likely to be a couple more practices runs before.
Can't see the lib dems making any alliances after their previous experience, their NEC won't agree to it. "
With the bait of PR, meaning they finally get a permanent significant presence in parliament, I think they would be willing to listen.
Personally I think the real stumbling block is the Labour party. |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"ITT
Suddenly a load of lib dem supporters appear
When the party hasnt even been mentioned in the politics forum for 18 months.
Lol.
I have no love for the LibDems, in my mind they are partly responsible for the shit-show we have today. Enabling the coalition that set it all in motion.
However, they are not the Torys! They are also very keen on PR, as am I.
To achieve this it's looking more an more like an alliance is needed across all the progressive parties. In effect it's what's happened here, where do you think the Labour voters went, and how was there a 25% swing to the LibDems?
From my point of view, this should be seen as a template for removing this government at the next general election.
There is time to come to some agreements, and likely to be a couple more practices runs before."
The right of the Labour party, coupled with Lib Dems and the Greens.??
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"ITT
Suddenly a load of lib dem supporters appear
When the party hasnt even been mentioned in the politics forum for 18 months.
Lol.
I have no love for the LibDems, in my mind they are partly responsible for the shit-show we have today. Enabling the coalition that set it all in motion.
However, they are not the Torys! They are also very keen on PR, as am I.
To achieve this it's looking more an more like an alliance is needed across all the progressive parties. In effect it's what's happened here, where do you think the Labour voters went, and how was there a 25% swing to the LibDems?
From my point of view, this should be seen as a template for removing this government at the next general election.
There is time to come to some agreements, and likely to be a couple more practices runs before.
Progressive??? What a laugh, labour wanted to go back to mass nationalisation and dare interference and unions in charge, libs wanted to ignore a democratic vote, progressive my arse. Whst the country needs is a decent opposition with some policies, remind me again what labour policies are, oops they wont tell us apart from anything that the tories do is we are against."
I would much rather have union power, than off-shore billionaire power, which is what is behind this lot.
The unions are interested in a much greater proportion of the population.
This last year has been an example of where they are listened to, even by right wing governments. Standing up for the working person. |
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"ITT
Suddenly a load of lib dem supporters appear
When the party hasnt even been mentioned in the politics forum for 18 months.
Lol.
I have no love for the LibDems, in my mind they are partly responsible for the shit-show we have today. Enabling the coalition that set it all in motion.
However, they are not the Torys! They are also very keen on PR, as am I.
To achieve this it's looking more an more like an alliance is needed across all the progressive parties. In effect it's what's happened here, where do you think the Labour voters went, and how was there a 25% swing to the LibDems?
From my point of view, this should be seen as a template for removing this government at the next general election.
There is time to come to some agreements, and likely to be a couple more practices runs before.
Can't see the lib dems making any alliances after their previous experience, their NEC won't agree to it.
With the bait of PR, meaning they finally get a permanent significant presence in parliament, I think they would be willing to listen.
Personally I think the real stumbling block is the Labour party. "
Current Labour seats plus lib dems seats are getting nowhere near a government to achieve PR.
The tories had their Vietnam over Europe and are now over it.
Labour need to have their Vietnam, split and let each part make their case to the voters. |
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"ITT
Suddenly a load of lib dem supporters appear
When the party hasnt even been mentioned in the politics forum for 18 months.
Lol.
I have no love for the LibDems, in my mind they are partly responsible for the shit-show we have today. Enabling the coalition that set it all in motion.
However, they are not the Torys! They are also very keen on PR, as am I.
To achieve this it's looking more an more like an alliance is needed across all the progressive parties. In effect it's what's happened here, where do you think the Labour voters went, and how was there a 25% swing to the LibDems?
From my point of view, this should be seen as a template for removing this government at the next general election.
There is time to come to some agreements, and likely to be a couple more practices runs before.
The right of the Labour party, coupled with Lib Dems and the Greens.??
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You mean like the SDP?
That didn't end well did it? |
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"ITT
Suddenly a load of lib dem supporters appear
When the party hasnt even been mentioned in the politics forum for 18 months.
Lol.
I have no love for the LibDems, in my mind they are partly responsible for the shit-show we have today. Enabling the coalition that set it all in motion.
However, they are not the Torys! They are also very keen on PR, as am I.
To achieve this it's looking more an more like an alliance is needed across all the progressive parties. In effect it's what's happened here, where do you think the Labour voters went, and how was there a 25% swing to the LibDems?
From my point of view, this should be seen as a template for removing this government at the next general election.
There is time to come to some agreements, and likely to be a couple more practices runs before.
Progressive??? What a laugh, labour wanted to go back to mass nationalisation and dare interference and unions in charge, libs wanted to ignore a democratic vote, progressive my arse. Whst the country needs is a decent opposition with some policies, remind me again what labour policies are, oops they wont tell us apart from anything that the tories do is we are against.
I would much rather have union power, than off-shore billionaire power, which is what is behind this lot.
The unions are interested in a much greater proportion of the population.
This last year has been an example of where they are listened to, even by right wing governments. Standing up for the working person."
Neither is good.
MCCKUSKEY, Lavery and Co are only interested in members union fees. Fighting for the workers on their 200k salaries and unlimited expense accounts. What a laugh. |
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"ITT
Suddenly a load of lib dem supporters appear
When the party hasnt even been mentioned in the politics forum for 18 months.
Lol.
I have no love for the LibDems, in my mind they are partly responsible for the shit-show we have today. Enabling the coalition that set it all in motion.
However, they are not the Torys! They are also very keen on PR, as am I.
To achieve this it's looking more an more like an alliance is needed across all the progressive parties. In effect it's what's happened here, where do you think the Labour voters went, and how was there a 25% swing to the LibDems?
From my point of view, this should be seen as a template for removing this government at the next general election.
There is time to come to some agreements, and likely to be a couple more practices runs before.
Progressive??? What a laugh, labour wanted to go back to mass nationalisation and dare interference and unions in charge, libs wanted to ignore a democratic vote, progressive my arse. Whst the country needs is a decent opposition with some policies, remind me again what labour policies are, oops they wont tell us apart from anything that the tories do is we are against.
I would much rather have union power, than off-shore billionaire power, which is what is behind this lot.
The unions are interested in a much greater proportion of the population.
This last year has been an example of where they are listened to, even by right wing governments. Standing up for the working person."
Obvs giving normal people a voice is a shocking idea and mass privatisation has been a roaring success
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Seeing as though we are looking at the wider picture have a tweet from my good friend Owen
“ The Lib Dems thrashing the Tories in a massively safe Tory seat completely destroys Keir Starmer’s excuse that Labour are only struggling because of a vaccine boost”
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"Batley and Spen is Labour's Rubicon moment.
Lose, and the left will demand a change.
Win, SKS buys time to hopefully make real progress.
The media will be all over this. "
First time I have been genuinely interested in such events.
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"Batley and Spen is Labour's Rubicon moment.
Lose, and the left will demand a change.
Win, SKS buys time to hopefully make real progress.
The media will be all over this. "
They wont lose that with jo cox,s sister running for them but it would have been interesting if she wasnt. |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"Apparently there was a tacit agreement that labour wouldnt campaign in the area to encourage tactical voting.
Source?
Or just imagination? "
Ed Davey, Lib Dem Leader, visited the constituency 15 times, so he was convinced it was winnable.
I'm not sure which senior Labour figures went to drum up support? |
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"Apparently there was a tacit agreement that labour wouldnt campaign in the area to encourage tactical voting.
Source?
Or just imagination?
Ed Davey, Lib Dem Leader, visited the constituency 15 times, so he was convinced it was winnable.
I'm not sure which senior Labour figures went to drum up support? "
Quite ironic that he should be so involved with the local HS2 issue, having voted in favour of it on so many previous occasions.
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"Apparently there was a tacit agreement that labour wouldnt campaign in the area to encourage tactical voting.
Source?
Or just imagination?
Ed Davey, Lib Dem Leader, visited the constituency 15 times, so he was convinced it was winnable.
I'm not sure which senior Labour figures went to drum up support?
Quite ironic that he should be so involved with the local HS2 issue, having voted in favour of it on so many previous occasions.
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I think it was less to do with H2S as the tory candidate was opposed to it and more to do with the changes in the planning applications bill,they dont want houses on their green fields. |
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"Apparently there was a tacit agreement that labour wouldnt campaign in the area to encourage tactical voting.
Source?
Or just imagination? "
It was in the guardian apparently but cant find anything online
Looks like the greens and lib dems teamed up but labour dhdnt join in. |
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"Apparently there was a tacit agreement that labour wouldnt campaign in the area to encourage tactical voting.
Source?
Or just imagination?
Ed Davey, Lib Dem Leader, visited the constituency 15 times, so he was convinced it was winnable.
I'm not sure which senior Labour figures went to drum up support?
Quite ironic that he should be so involved with the local HS2 issue, having voted in favour of it on so many previous occasions.
I think it was less to do with H2S as the tory candidate was opposed to it and more to do with the changes in the planning applications bill,they dont want houses on their green fields."
Wonder what lib dem policy on key worker housing is..
Probably more in favour of new housing nationally than any other party.... |
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over a year ago
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"Apparently there was a tacit agreement that labour wouldnt campaign in the area to encourage tactical voting.
Source?
Or just imagination?
It was in the guardian apparently but cant find anything online
Looks like the greens and lib dems teamed up but labour dhdnt join in."
This is what I seen too. Pretty sure there was tactical votes. 60% of Labour and green voters said they would vote tactically to get LD in.
According to someone else though, that would never happen |
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By-elections are all good fun, always a story, batley and spen could be epic....
But always bear in mind, particularly for by-elections, if voting changed anything they'd ban it.
HS2 isn't going to be cancelled. Amersham Green belt developments if they're not approved locally will just be called in to Jenrick and rammed through. |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
bournemouth |
People need houses, it's always those living in new estates that want to stop the new ones built that will block their view stopped.
It always, yes we need houses but this is the wrong place (because we live here).
We need more investment and jobs oop north where there is more room etc, the south east is far too busy and over crowded |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"By-elections are all good fun, always a story, batley and spen could be epic....
But always bear in mind, particularly for by-elections, if voting changed anything they'd ban it.
HS2 isn't going to be cancelled. Amersham Green belt developments if they're not approved locally will just be called in to Jenrick and rammed through. "
As we are finding locally, Planning Inspectors have limited powers to block developments.
It seems that, as long as developments are legal, then they are virtually impossible to stop. |
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"By-elections are all good fun, always a story, batley and spen could be epic....
But always bear in mind, particularly for by-elections, if voting changed anything they'd ban it.
HS2 isn't going to be cancelled. Amersham Green belt developments if they're not approved locally will just be called in to Jenrick and rammed through.
As we are finding locally, Planning Inspectors have limited powers to block developments.
It seems that, as long as developments are legal, then they are virtually impossible to stop.
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Especially if the developers also happen to be Tory party donators. |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
bournemouth |
"By-elections are all good fun, always a story, batley and spen could be epic....
But always bear in mind, particularly for by-elections, if voting changed anything they'd ban it.
HS2 isn't going to be cancelled. Amersham Green belt developments if they're not approved locally will just be called in to Jenrick and rammed through.
As we are finding locally, Planning Inspectors have limited powers to block developments.
It seems that, as long as developments are legal, then they are virtually impossible to stop.
Especially if the developers also happen to be Tory party donators."
So you are happy for your kids and grandkids to not be able to have a house to live in ? There are planning laws for a reason, planning inspectors make decisions on that law. |
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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago
milton keynes |
Very well done to the lib dems
There was a time they specialised in by elections but not for a while. Also well done to the greens who seem to be continuing upward momentum. Not sure what happened to Labour unless as others mentioned the switched tactically. Not sure if starmer will be pleased or not |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"https://www.itv.com/news/2021-06-18/lib-dems-secure-historic-by-election-win-in-chesham-and-amersham
Boris Johnson’s Tories have suffered a humiliating by-election defeat as the Liberal Democrats secured a historic win in Chesham and Amersham.
Lib Dem Sarah Green is the country’s newest MP after winning the seat, which has been a Conservative stronghold since its creation in 1974.
The contest was triggered by the death of former Cabinet minister Dame Cheryl Gillan, who took the seat with a majority of 16,233 in the 2019 general election – some 55% of the vote.
Oops
Must be all that Tactical Voting .
Yes, but the thing is... Hey look at yhe new royal yaght pics .... Hey is that the red arrows??
Why we need to keep this news fresh
Boaty McBoat boy isnt getting such an easy ride anymore .
Who ?? Is this some personal vendetta or open for sensible discussion instead of the usual tribal point scoring ?"
8 think hes the leader of your crew
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I see that Sir Ed Davey has tweeted that this sends a shockwave through British politics.
No, it really doesn't.
The Lib Dem candidate has won the seat with a majority half of what the Conservatives managed in this seat in 2019.
Turnout at this by-election, which came about due to the death of said MP, was around 52%. Turnout at the 2019 General Election was around 76% I believe.
Many attribute the LibDem win to being a protest vote against HS2 amongst other things - a project which impacts this constituency immensely.
We're 11 years in to a Conservative government. Sitting governments usually don't fair too well in local and by-elections - but look at what happened in Hartlepool just last month.
The real test here will be if the LibDems can hold on to this seat at the next General election.
Perhaps the biggest shock though, is the appalling performance of Labour.
At the 2019 General election, they came second in this seat with a littl over 11,000 votes.
Yesterday, their candidate lost their deposit after securing only 662 votes, coming in 4th behind the Green Party. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I see that Sir Ed Davey has tweeted that this sends a shockwave through British politics.
No, it really doesn't.
The Lib Dem candidate has won the seat with a majority half of what the Conservatives managed in this seat in 2019.
Turnout at this by-election, which came about due to the death of said MP, was around 52%. Turnout at the 2019 General Election was around 76% I believe.
Many attribute the LibDem win to being a protest vote against HS2 amongst other things - a project which impacts this constituency immensely.
We're 11 years in to a Conservative government. Sitting governments usually don't fair too well in local and by-elections - but look at what happened in Hartlepool just last month.
The real test here will be if the LibDems can hold on to this seat at the next General election.
Perhaps the biggest shock though, is the appalling performance of Labour.
At the 2019 General election, they came second in this seat with a littl over 11,000 votes.
Yesterday, their candidate lost their deposit after securing only 662 votes, coming in 4th behind the Green Party."
Tactical voting  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Batley and Spen is Labour's Rubicon moment.
Lose, and the left will demand a change.
Win, SKS buys time to hopefully make real progress.
The media will be all over this. They wont lose that with jo cox,s sister running for them but it would have been interesting if she wasnt."
Pobably the main reason behind having her as the candidate is the sympathy vote.
Just imagine though, if it's not enough and they lose it. |
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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago
milton keynes |
"The lib dem candidate, I presume, tweeted her thanks to the labour and green voters, who turned out for them."
So the tactical voting that was questioned on here recently turned out true. About time we had some opposition in this country. I was expecting it from Labour but seems the libs and greens are carrying the touch for now |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Batley and Spen is Labour's Rubicon moment.
Lose, and the left will demand a change.
Win, SKS buys time to hopefully make real progress.
The media will be all over this. They wont lose that with jo cox,s sister running for them but it would have been interesting if she wasnt.
Pobably the main reason behind having her as the candidate is the sympathy vote.
Just imagine though, if it's not enough and they lose it."
If a Right Wing Bigot hadnt of killed
The sitting MP
I very much doubt that Batley & Spen would be in need of
A by election .
I really dont think sympathy has much to do with it |
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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago
milton keynes |
"When the Tories won Hartlepool i didn’t hear those on the right complaining then…. Now the excuses come out because they lose this one……"
I have not seen complaining just some noticed the other day it was dismissed as a possibility. Personally as you can see I congratulated the winners as is only polite. Strong opposition is very important for all so the sooner we get it the better |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Batley and Spen is Labour's Rubicon moment.
Lose, and the left will demand a change.
Win, SKS buys time to hopefully make real progress.
The media will be all over this. They wont lose that with jo cox,s sister running for them but it would have been interesting if she wasnt.
Pobably the main reason behind having her as the candidate is the sympathy vote.
Just imagine though, if it's not enough and they lose it."
Sympathy vote, wow, |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Batley and Spen is Labour's Rubicon moment.
Lose, and the left will demand a change.
Win, SKS buys time to hopefully make real progress.
The media will be all over this. They wont lose that with jo cox,s sister running for them but it would have been interesting if she wasnt.
Pobably the main reason behind having her as the candidate is the sympathy vote.
Just imagine though, if it's not enough and they lose it.
Sympathy vote, wow, "
It seems the Rabid Right really dont want a democracy at all .
If they are talking about sympathy votes for a murder victim .
We might as well just give up on freedom
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Batley and Spen is Labour's Rubicon moment.
Lose, and the left will demand a change.
Win, SKS buys time to hopefully make real progress.
The media will be all over this. They wont lose that with jo cox,s sister running for them but it would have been interesting if she wasnt.
Pobably the main reason behind having her as the candidate is the sympathy vote.
Just imagine though, if it's not enough and they lose it.
Sympathy vote, wow,
It seems the Rabid Right really dont want a democracy at all .
If they are talking about sympathy votes for a murder victim .
We might as well just give up on freedom
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Batley and Spen is Labour's Rubicon moment.
Lose, and the left will demand a change.
Win, SKS buys time to hopefully make real progress.
The media will be all over this. They wont lose that with jo cox,s sister running for them but it would have been interesting if she wasnt.
Pobably the main reason behind having her as the candidate is the sympathy vote.
Just imagine though, if it's not enough and they lose it.
Sympathy vote, wow,
It seems the Rabid Right really dont want a democracy at all .
If they are talking about sympathy votes for a murder victim .
We might as well just give up on freedom
If labour win its a sympathy vote, all time low, sad times "
Indeed it is .
Still 1.17 on the euro &
all that guff |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"this thread certainly touched a very raw nerve indeed, causing the fab far righty cartel to get triggered max "
Dont say Triggered to loudly
There might be a Thomas Mair
type lurking in the dark corners ! |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"this thread certainly touched a very raw nerve indeed, causing the fab far righty cartel to get triggered max "
You must be reading different posts to me where has anyone said they were surprised or upset by the result and who are these far right people?
I think its more of people not getting the reaction they were hoping for on this thread who are probably more upset. |
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"Batley and Spen is Labour's Rubicon moment.
Lose, and the left will demand a change.
Win, SKS buys time to hopefully make real progress.
The media will be all over this. They wont lose that with jo cox,s sister running for them but it would have been interesting if she wasnt.
Pobably the main reason behind having her as the candidate is the sympathy vote.
Just imagine though, if it's not enough and they lose it."
Tories
Doncha just love em? |
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By *amish SMan
over a year ago
Eastleigh |
Fib Dems get in by promising to oppose planning legislation. The secret weapon is on its way, Eastleighs Fib Dem Council leader, Keith House, now more commonly known as Keith builds houses, will show them how to build on every piece of land in their Borough, and how to ignore the residents objections. |
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over a year ago
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"Fib Dems get in by promising to oppose planning legislation. The secret weapon is on its way, Eastleighs Fib Dem Council leader, Keith House, now more commonly known as Keith builds houses, will show them how to build on every piece of land in their Borough, and how to ignore the residents objections. "
At least the Fib dems didnt lie to
Her Maj the queen Liz .
Unlike Bodge the Tory ! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Labour 1.6% of the vote. Lost their deposit. Keep up the good work Kier "
Stop the Tories at all Costs .
Wouldnt suprise me if Labour & Lib dems do a deal to
Make sure the Story party fail at the Next GE .
It seems the only way as the right side of the
Electorate dont care what they do .
You will soon . |
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"Labour 1.6% of the vote. Lost their deposit. Keep up the good work Kier
Stop the Tories at all Costs .
Wouldnt suprise me if Labour & Lib dems do a deal to
Make sure the Story party fail at the Next GE .
It seems the only way as the right side of the
Electorate dont care what they do .
You will soon ."
I think the fact that the lid dems thank labour voters for their support has gone over their heads.
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IF - and it's a big if - the Tories are serious about "levelling up", we should expect more of this.
The NIMBYs whining about this result need to come to the realisation that they and their kind have had their way for decades; whilst the Midlands and the North of England have suffered.
They really need to be told "Fuck off, you've had your turn; we're going to spend the money where it's needed - and that's not where you live."
What happens if the Tories ignore their heartlands? Fuck all - IF they spend money on the Midlands and the North of England.
They will keep the gains they made in the last GE - and they'd have to alienate another 79 constituencies full of loaded, entitled wankers to lose their majority.
Even if they manage to do that - and it's unlikely they will - they'll lose those seats to LibDems, or Greens; which will still leave them as the largest Party in Westminster.
I look forward to the Tories turning their backs on the well-off and looking after the people who really need it.
IF they have the balls for it. |
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over a year ago
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"IF - and it's a big if - the Tories are serious about "levelling up", we should expect more of this.
The NIMBYs whining about this result need to come to the realisation that they and their kind have had their way for decades; whilst the Midlands and the North of England have suffered.
They really need to be told "Fuck off, you've had your turn; we're going to spend the money where it's needed - and that's not where you live."
What happens if the Tories ignore their heartlands? Fuck all - IF they spend money on the Midlands and the North of England.
They will keep the gains they made in the last GE - and they'd have to alienate another 79 constituencies full of loaded, entitled wankers to lose their majority.
Even if they manage to do that - and it's unlikely they will - they'll lose those seats to LibDems, or Greens; which will still leave them as the largest Party in Westminster.
I look forward to the Tories turning their backs on the well-off and looking after the people who really need it.
IF they have the balls for it."
You seem to imply that all of the conservative constituencies are full of 'loaded, entitled wankers', you couldn't be further from the truth.
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"IF - and it's a big if - the Tories are serious about "levelling up", we should expect more of this.
The NIMBYs whining about this result need to come to the realisation that they and their kind have had their way for decades; whilst the Midlands and the North of England have suffered.
They really need to be told "Fuck off, you've had your turn; we're going to spend the money where it's needed - and that's not where you live."
What happens if the Tories ignore their heartlands? Fuck all - IF they spend money on the Midlands and the North of England.
They will keep the gains they made in the last GE - and they'd have to alienate another 79 constituencies full of loaded, entitled wankers to lose their majority.
Even if they manage to do that - and it's unlikely they will - they'll lose those seats to LibDems, or Greens; which will still leave them as the largest Party in Westminster.
I look forward to the Tories turning their backs on the well-off and looking after the people who really need it.
IF they have the balls for it."
If alex is going to level up the north(don't laugh at the back)how is he still going to maintain the investment in the south aswell as his million other 'promises '?(new hospitals etc)
At some point you think the penny would finally drop that he simply says what people want to hear and his word means Jack shit.
Kunsberg did a piece on him yday saying he was not universally popular in the traditional daily mail heartlands. |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
bournemouth |
"The hypocrisy is strong in here.
Its obviously ok to throw around insults on a daily basis but God forbid anyone makes a disparaging remark about Alex's sheep like following."
Sure is . Cant even use the name he chooses and call his followers sheep. |
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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago
Near Wells |
So far this year, Conservative pinched a seat from Labour and the Lib Dems pinched a seat from the Tories.
I don't think Boris will be overly worried, Labour hasn't won anything in a while. Labour's last by election win was in 2012. |
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over a year ago
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"So far this year, Conservative pinched a seat from Labour and the Lib Dems pinched a seat from the Tories.
I don't think Boris will be overly worried, Labour hasn't won anything in a while. Labour's last by election win was in 2012."
Newport West 2019 Labour win
Lewisham east 2018 Labour win .
I think you should check your sources
Before you make such ambitious claims .
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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago
milton keynes |
"So far this year, Conservative pinched a seat from Labour and the Lib Dems pinched a seat from the Tories.
I don't think Boris will be overly worried, Labour hasn't won anything in a while. Labour's last by election win was in 2012.
Newport West 2019 Labour win
Lewisham east 2018 Labour win .
I think you should check your sources
Before you make such ambitious claims .
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Not sure what is wrong with the posters quote to be fair as the first words are ' so far this year'. I am only aware of 2 by elections this year and pretty sure its 2021 not 2018 or 2019 |
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over a year ago
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"So far this year, Conservative pinched a seat from Labour and the Lib Dems pinched a seat from the Tories.
I don't think Boris will be overly worried, Labour hasn't won anything in a while. Labour's last by election win was in 2012.
Newport West 2019 Labour win
Lewisham east 2018 Labour win .
I think you should check your sources
Before you make such ambitious claims .
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Not sure what is wrong with the posters quote to be fair as the first words are ' so far this year'. I am only aware of 2 by elections this year and pretty sure its 2021 not 2018 or 2019"
If the statement had finished there
I probably wouldnt have responded .
The trouble with your Mob is that they always
Want to try & inflict some made up fantasy into The thread .
"I don't think Boris will be overly worried, Labour hasn't won anything in a while. Labour's last by election win was in 2012"
I'm only ever going to correct those fantasies With Truths .
Still you already know that dontcha
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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago
milton keynes |
"So far this year, Conservative pinched a seat from Labour and the Lib Dems pinched a seat from the Tories.
I don't think Boris will be overly worried, Labour hasn't won anything in a while. Labour's last by election win was in 2012.
Newport West 2019 Labour win
Lewisham east 2018 Labour win .
I think you should check your sources
Before you make such ambitious claims .
You're Welcome
Not sure what is wrong with the posters quote to be fair as the first words are ' so far this year'. I am only aware of 2 by elections this year and pretty sure its 2021 not 2018 or 2019
If the statement had finished there
I probably wouldnt have responded .
The trouble with your Mob is that they always
Want to try & inflict some made up fantasy into The thread .
I don't think Boris will be overly worried, Labour hasn't won anything in a while. Labour's last by election win was in 2012
I'm only ever going to correct those fantasies With Truths .
Still you already know that dontcha
"
My mob!
Who is my mob? I am but one person. I want Labour to up their game as much as anyone as a strong opposition is very important |
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over a year ago
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"So far this year, Conservative pinched a seat from Labour and the Lib Dems pinched a seat from the Tories.
I don't think Boris will be overly worried, Labour hasn't won anything in a while. Labour's last by election win was in 2012.
Newport West 2019 Labour win
Lewisham east 2018 Labour win .
I think you should check your sources
Before you make such ambitious claims .
You're Welcome
Not sure what is wrong with the posters quote to be fair as the first words are ' so far this year'. I am only aware of 2 by elections this year and pretty sure its 2021 not 2018 or 2019
If the statement had finished there
I probably wouldnt have responded .
The trouble with your Mob is that they always
Want to try & inflict some made up fantasy into The thread .
I don't think Boris will be overly worried, Labour hasn't won anything in a while. Labour's last by election win was in 2012
I'm only ever going to correct those fantasies With Truths .
Still you already know that dontcha
My mob!
Who is my mob? I am but one person. I want Labour to up their game as much as anyone as a strong opposition is very important"
Your Mob who will not allow criticism of the
Country or Its leaders ( ) if thats
What you call them .
I think you personally must have just
Been spoiling for some kind of a fight ?
As you only wanted to comment on the bit of a post concerning 2021 & not the FALSE statement about 2012 .
I can only guess at your reasons for doing so
Only you can justify what your position is . |
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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago
milton keynes |
"So far this year, Conservative pinched a seat from Labour and the Lib Dems pinched a seat from the Tories.
I don't think Boris will be overly worried, Labour hasn't won anything in a while. Labour's last by election win was in 2012.
Newport West 2019 Labour win
Lewisham east 2018 Labour win .
I think you should check your sources
Before you make such ambitious claims .
You're Welcome
Not sure what is wrong with the posters quote to be fair as the first words are ' so far this year'. I am only aware of 2 by elections this year and pretty sure its 2021 not 2018 or 2019
If the statement had finished there
I probably wouldnt have responded .
The trouble with your Mob is that they always
Want to try & inflict some made up fantasy into The thread .
I don't think Boris will be overly worried, Labour hasn't won anything in a while. Labour's last by election win was in 2012
I'm only ever going to correct those fantasies With Truths .
Still you already know that dontcha
My mob!
Who is my mob? I am but one person. I want Labour to up their game as much as anyone as a strong opposition is very important
Your Mob who will not allow criticism of the
Country or Its leaders ( ) if thats
What you call them .
I think you personally must have just
Been spoiling for some kind of a fight ?
As you only wanted to comment on the bit of a post concerning 2021 & not the FALSE statement about 2012 .
I can only guess at your reasons for doing so
Only you can justify what your position is ."
I will repeat I don't have a mob I am but one person. I do not do mobs, I leave that to others. I don't look to fight, why would I. As for criticising the government, I too have done this on here. I have also seen others doing the same. When you say these people (the so called mob) don't allow you to criticise the government, how do they stop you? When I criticise them no one stopped me |
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over a year ago
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"So far this year, Conservative pinched a seat from Labour and the Lib Dems pinched a seat from the Tories.
I don't think Boris will be overly worried, Labour hasn't won anything in a while. Labour's last by election win was in 2012.
Newport West 2019 Labour win
Lewisham east 2018 Labour win .
I think you should check your sources
Before you make such ambitious claims .
You're Welcome
Not sure what is wrong with the posters quote to be fair as the first words are ' so far this year'. I am only aware of 2 by elections this year and pretty sure its 2021 not 2018 or 2019
If the statement had finished there
I probably wouldnt have responded .
The trouble with your Mob is that they always
Want to try & inflict some made up fantasy into The thread .
I don't think Boris will be overly worried, Labour hasn't won anything in a while. Labour's last by election win was in 2012
I'm only ever going to correct those fantasies With Truths .
Still you already know that dontcha
My mob!
Who is my mob? I am but one person. I want Labour to up their game as much as anyone as a strong opposition is very important
Your Mob who will not allow criticism of the
Country or Its leaders ( ) if thats
What you call them .
I think you personally must have just
Been spoiling for some kind of a fight ?
As you only wanted to comment on the bit of a post concerning 2021 & not the FALSE statement about 2012 .
I can only guess at your reasons for doing so
Only you can justify what your position is ."
Sure those seats that you mention were already labour seats which they held onto.
Not exactly wins |
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over a year ago
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"So far this year, Conservative pinched a seat from Labour and the Lib Dems pinched a seat from the Tories.
I don't think Boris will be overly worried, Labour hasn't won anything in a while. Labour's last by election win was in 2012.
Newport West 2019 Labour win
Lewisham east 2018 Labour win .
I think you should check your sources
Before you make such ambitious claims .
You're Welcome
Not sure what is wrong with the posters quote to be fair as the first words are ' so far this year'. I am only aware of 2 by elections this year and pretty sure its 2021 not 2018 or 2019
If the statement had finished there
I probably wouldnt have responded .
The trouble with your Mob is that they always
Want to try & inflict some made up fantasy into The thread .
I don't think Boris will be overly worried, Labour hasn't won anything in a while. Labour's last by election win was in 2012
I'm only ever going to correct those fantasies With Truths .
Still you already know that dontcha
My mob!
Who is my mob? I am but one person. I want Labour to up their game as much as anyone as a strong opposition is very important
Your Mob who will not allow criticism of the
Country or Its leaders ( ) if thats
What you call them .
I think you personally must have just
Been spoiling for some kind of a fight ?
As you only wanted to comment on the bit of a post concerning 2021 & not the FALSE statement about 2012 .
I can only guess at your reasons for doing so
Only you can justify what your position is .
Sure those seats that you mention were already labour seats which they held onto.
Not exactly wins "
Something the tories failed to do in chesham & Amersham
A seat that has been tory since it was created &
Managed to turn a 16000 positive into an 8,000 negative .
I think it shows exactly Wins
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over a year ago
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"So far this year, Conservative pinched a seat from Labour and the Lib Dems pinched a seat from the Tories.
I don't think Boris will be overly worried, Labour hasn't won anything in a while. Labour's last by election win was in 2012.
Newport West 2019 Labour win
Lewisham east 2018 Labour win .
I think you should check your sources
Before you make such ambitious claims .
You're Welcome
Not sure what is wrong with the posters quote to be fair as the first words are ' so far this year'. I am only aware of 2 by elections this year and pretty sure its 2021 not 2018 or 2019
If the statement had finished there
I probably wouldnt have responded .
The trouble with your Mob is that they always
Want to try & inflict some made up fantasy into The thread .
I don't think Boris will be overly worried, Labour hasn't won anything in a while. Labour's last by election win was in 2012
I'm only ever going to correct those fantasies With Truths .
Still you already know that dontcha
My mob!
Who is my mob? I am but one person. I want Labour to up their game as much as anyone as a strong opposition is very important
Your Mob who will not allow criticism of the
Country or Its leaders ( ) if thats
What you call them .
I think you personally must have just
Been spoiling for some kind of a fight ?
As you only wanted to comment on the bit of a post concerning 2021 & not the FALSE statement about 2012 .
I can only guess at your reasons for doing so
Only you can justify what your position is .
Sure those seats that you mention were already labour seats which they held onto.
Not exactly wins
Something the tories failed to do in chesham & Amersham
A seat that has been tory since it was created &
Managed to turn a 16000 positive into an 8,000 negative .
I think it shows exactly Wins
"
So by elections where a party manages to hold onto seats they already hold but their numbers are slashed quite dramatically are classed as wins?
I can see now why you think you're winning
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"So far this year, Conservative pinched a seat from Labour and the Lib Dems pinched a seat from the Tories.
I don't think Boris will be overly worried, Labour hasn't won anything in a while. Labour's last by election win was in 2012.
Newport West 2019 Labour win
Lewisham east 2018 Labour win .
I think you should check your sources
Before you make such ambitious claims .
You're Welcome
Not sure what is wrong with the posters quote to be fair as the first words are ' so far this year'. I am only aware of 2 by elections this year and pretty sure its 2021 not 2018 or 2019
If the statement had finished there
I probably wouldnt have responded .
The trouble with your Mob is that they always
Want to try & inflict some made up fantasy into The thread .
I don't think Boris will be overly worried, Labour hasn't won anything in a while. Labour's last by election win was in 2012
I'm only ever going to correct those fantasies With Truths .
Still you already know that dontcha
My mob!
Who is my mob? I am but one person. I want Labour to up their game as much as anyone as a strong opposition is very important
Your Mob who will not allow criticism of the
Country or Its leaders ( ) if thats
What you call them .
I think you personally must have just
Been spoiling for some kind of a fight ?
As you only wanted to comment on the bit of a post concerning 2021 & not the FALSE statement about 2012 .
I can only guess at your reasons for doing so
Only you can justify what your position is .
Sure those seats that you mention were already labour seats which they held onto.
Not exactly wins
Something the tories failed to do in chesham & Amersham
A seat that has been tory since it was created &
Managed to turn a 16000 positive into an 8,000 negative .
I think it shows exactly Wins
So by elections where a party manages to hold onto seats they already hold but their numbers are slashed quite dramatically are classed as wins?
I can see now why you think you're winning
"
I dont think Im winning
I know the Tory Party lost
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"So far this year, Conservative pinched a seat from Labour and the Lib Dems pinched a seat from the Tories.
I don't think Boris will be overly worried, Labour hasn't won anything in a while. Labour's last by election win was in 2012.
Newport West 2019 Labour win
Lewisham east 2018 Labour win .
I think you should check your sources
Before you make such ambitious claims .
You're Welcome
Not sure what is wrong with the posters quote to be fair as the first words are ' so far this year'. I am only aware of 2 by elections this year and pretty sure its 2021 not 2018 or 2019"
The poster clearly stated the last by election win was 2012. |
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"So far this year, Conservative pinched a seat from Labour and the Lib Dems pinched a seat from the Tories.
I don't think Boris will be overly worried, Labour hasn't won anything in a while. Labour's last by election win was in 2012.
Newport West 2019 Labour win
Lewisham east 2018 Labour win .
I think you should check your sources
Before you make such ambitious claims .
You're Welcome
Not sure what is wrong with the posters quote to be fair as the first words are ' so far this year'. I am only aware of 2 by elections this year and pretty sure its 2021 not 2018 or 2019
The poster clearly stated the last by election win was 2012."
Indeed they did Lionel
They were just trying to belittle
The Left & Labour as usual .
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Interesting that the good people of aversham are feeling that the buffoon is neglecting the blue wall.
Presumably they were quite happy to see the north be utterly decimated under Thatcher for over a decade.
Not that tories only care about themselves like. |
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