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"https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57239483 Anti muslim views at local and individual level..pm makes insensitive remarks...complaints system needs overhaul..isnt that all very similar to the labour one? But not institutional Be interesting to know the defeniton of what constitutes institutional ?" It'll be changed according to current narratives, language and who's the most offended on a rolling basis...  | |||
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"For the record ..I'll.disregard what I've said about labour. Lets keep this about the issue of racism in the gmnt " Funny Buggered it up Johnson with his Muslim Heritage should be so anti burka . | |||
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"For the record ..I'll.disregard what I've said about labour. Lets keep this about the issue of racism in the gmnt " I've never heard you say anything about labour   | |||
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"For the record ..I'll.disregard what I've said about labour. Lets keep this about the issue of racism in the gmnt Funny Buggered it up Johnson with his Muslim Heritage should be so anti burka ." Which just goes to show that you can be anti burka but it does not mean you are anti Muslim | |||
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"For the record ..I'll.disregard what I've said about labour. Lets keep this about the issue of racism in the gmnt Funny Buggered it up Johnson with his Muslim Heritage should be so anti burka .Which just goes to show that you can be anti burka but it does not mean you are anti Muslim "I dont think it does . A burqa will be worn by some islamic traditions Not by all . It would be like claiming That all Catholics are Right wing Facist Francophiles & Cilice wearers because opus dei may have done so at some point . If a person follows certain aspects of religious tradition Ie clothing Then there no problem . | |||
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"For the record ..I'll.disregard what I've said about labour. Lets keep this about the issue of racism in the gmnt Funny Buggered it up Johnson with his Muslim Heritage should be so anti burka .Which just goes to show that you can be anti burka but it does not mean you are anti Muslim
I dont think it does .
A burqa will be worn by some islamic traditions
Not by all .
It would be like claiming
That all Catholics are Right wing
Facist Francophiles & Cilice wearers
because opus dei may have done so at some point .
If a person follows certain aspects of religious
tradition Ie clothing Then there no problem .
"Exactly otherwise France, Belgium and the Netherlands would be guilty of that.  | |||
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"https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57239483 Anti muslim views at local and individual level..pm makes insensitive remarks...complaints system needs overhaul..isnt that all very similar to the labour one? But not institutional Be interesting to know the defeniton of what constitutes institutional ?" They came to that conclusion by the way that any complaint was handled hence not institutional hope this helps. | |||
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"Well like I said..there is clearly a problem there so at least Alex will be taking full responsibility and standing down "Why would he do that ? | |||
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"Well like I said..there is clearly a problem there so at least Alex will be taking full responsibility and standing down Why would he do that ?"Something to do with a racist problem in his party? | |||
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"Well like I said..there is clearly a problem there so at least Alex will be taking full responsibility and standing down Why would he do that ?
Something to do with a racist problem in his party?"Apparently but i can only go by what has been reported its to do with better training and more staff in the complaints procedure at ground level of the party lets hope they follow the recommendations,we will find out later. | |||
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"Well like I said..there is clearly a problem there so at least Alex will be taking full responsibility and standing down Why would he do that ?
Something to do with a racist problem in his party?Apparently but i can only go by what has been reported its to do with better training and more staff in the complaints procedure at ground level of the party lets hope they follow the recommendations,we will find out later. "
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"Has anyone been thrown out the party for being racist?" I dont know have they? | |||
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"Well it makes no mention of it..so it seems to be acceptable practice in the gmnt. Who knew?" Or maybe the independent enquiry didn't find anything wrong with the outcomes of any cases after all that is the job of an enquiry.  | |||
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"So the PM is the one who ordered the Independent report. Plus the report found no institutional racism but the complaints system in need of overhaul. Reads like the PM is addressing the problem and not denying it like some people." It found evidence of racism and said there was a problem...how is he going to address the problem of racism..considering he has issues himself? | |||
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"And in other news Bears do in fact shit in the woods and it turns out the Pope is actualy a catholic ." And in even more surprising news.its being defended | |||
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"Well it makes no mention of it..so it seems to be acceptable practice in the gmnt. Who knew?Or maybe the independent enquiry didn't find anything wrong with the outcomes of any cases after all that is the job of an enquiry. "Erm ..the report found evidence of anti Muslim attitudes and said there was a problem...so how exactly does that equate to them not finding anything? | |||
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"https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-conservative-leadership-latest-racism-watermelon-smiles-satirical-a8981166.html%3famp This is the man who is going to sort out the issue "Speaking to the inquiry, Mr Johnson said: "I am obviously sorry for any offence taken. Would I use some of the offending language from my past writings today? Now that I am prime minister, I would not." Nice to see he knows the difference from being a journalist and a PM. | |||
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"For the record ..I'll.disregard what I've said about labour. Lets keep this about the issue of racism in the gmnt Funny Buggered it up Johnson with his Muslim Heritage should be so anti burka .Which just goes to show that you can be anti burka but it does not mean you are anti Muslim
I dont think it does .
A burqa will be worn by some islamic traditions
Not by all .
It would be like claiming
That all Catholics are Right wing
Facist Francophiles & Cilice wearers
because opus dei may have done so at some point .
If a person follows certain aspects of religious
tradition Ie clothing Then there no problem .
Exactly otherwise France, Belgium and the Netherlands would be guilty of that. "France havent banned the burqa They have banned any clothing that covers the face Belfium has banned 300 burqa wearers from following there tradition out of a Million muslim population . Nederlands has yet to prosecute anyone for wearing a burqa Im pretty sure you will find , as every city said they would not enforce the ban . | |||
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"https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-conservative-leadership-latest-racism-watermelon-smiles-satirical-a8981166.html%3famp This is the man who is going to sort out the issue Speaking to the inquiry, Mr Johnson said: "I am obviously sorry for any offence taken. Would I use some of the offending language from my past writings today? Now that I am prime minister, I would not."
Nice to see he knows the difference from being a journalist and a PM. "You sure about that ? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/boris-johnson-lies-viral-video-b1830732.html%3famp Lying as an MP https://www.quora.com/Boris-Johnson-has-been-sacked-twice-as-a-journalist-for-lying-What-will-it-say-about-the-British-public-if-he-is-voted-to-the-position-of-Prime-Minister Lying as a Journalist = sacked twice . | |||
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"For the record ..I'll.disregard what I've said about labour. Lets keep this about the issue of racism in the gmnt Funny Buggered it up Johnson with his Muslim Heritage should be so anti burka .Which just goes to show that you can be anti burka but it does not mean you are anti Muslim
I dont think it does .
A burqa will be worn by some islamic traditions
Not by all .
It would be like claiming
That all Catholics are Right wing
Facist Francophiles & Cilice wearers
because opus dei may have done so at some point .
If a person follows certain aspects of religious
tradition Ie clothing Then there no problem .
Exactly otherwise France, Belgium and the Netherlands would be guilty of that.
France havent banned the burqa
They have banned any clothing that covers the face
Belfium has banned 300 burqa wearers from following there tradition out of a Million muslim population .
Nederlands has yet to prosecute anyone for wearing a burqa
Im pretty sure you will find , as every city said they would not enforce the ban .
"https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/07/switzerland-on-course-to-ban-wearing-of-burqa-and-niqab-in-public-places Not what the guardian says but heyho i thought i would use that as we all know that a mail link would just be debunked. | |||
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"For the record ..I'll.disregard what I've said about labour. Lets keep this about the issue of racism in the gmnt Funny Buggered it up Johnson with his Muslim Heritage should be so anti burka .Which just goes to show that you can be anti burka but it does not mean you are anti Muslim
I dont think it does .
A burqa will be worn by some islamic traditions
Not by all .
It would be like claiming
That all Catholics are Right wing
Facist Francophiles & Cilice wearers
because opus dei may have done so at some point .
If a person follows certain aspects of religious
tradition Ie clothing Then there no problem .
Exactly otherwise France, Belgium and the Netherlands would be guilty of that.
France havent banned the burqa
They have banned any clothing that covers the face
Belfium has banned 300 burqa wearers from following there tradition out of a Million muslim population .
Nederlands has yet to prosecute anyone for wearing a burqa
Im pretty sure you will find , as every city said they would not enforce the ban .
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/07/switzerland-on-course-to-ban-wearing-of-burqa-and-niqab-in-public-places
Not what the guardian says but heyho i thought i would use that as we all know that a mail link would just be debunked. "Having a ban does not enforce a ban or bring prosecution A headache doesnt always lead to a brain tumor .  | |||
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"For the record ..I'll.disregard what I've said about labour. Lets keep this about the issue of racism in the gmnt Funny Buggered it up Johnson with his Muslim Heritage should be so anti burka .Which just goes to show that you can be anti burka but it does not mean you are anti Muslim
I dont think it does .
A burqa will be worn by some islamic traditions
Not by all .
It would be like claiming
That all Catholics are Right wing
Facist Francophiles & Cilice wearers
because opus dei may have done so at some point .
If a person follows certain aspects of religious
tradition Ie clothing Then there no problem .
Exactly otherwise France, Belgium and the Netherlands would be guilty of that.
France havent banned the burqa
They have banned any clothing that covers the face
Belfium has banned 300 burqa wearers from following there tradition out of a Million muslim population .
Nederlands has yet to prosecute anyone for wearing a burqa
Im pretty sure you will find , as every city said they would not enforce the ban .
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/07/switzerland-on-course-to-ban-wearing-of-burqa-and-niqab-in-public-places
Not what the guardian says but heyho i thought i would use that as we all know that a mail link would just be debunked.
Having a ban does not enforce a ban or bring prosecution
A headache doesnt always lead to a brain tumor .
"Who saying it does? the whole point is that there is one in the 1st place does that make them Islamophobic? | |||
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"For the record ..I'll.disregard what I've said about labour. Lets keep this about the issue of racism in the gmnt Funny Buggered it up Johnson with his Muslim Heritage should be so anti burka .Which just goes to show that you can be anti burka but it does not mean you are anti Muslim
I dont think it does .
A burqa will be worn by some islamic traditions
Not by all .
It would be like claiming
That all Catholics are Right wing
Facist Francophiles & Cilice wearers
because opus dei may have done so at some point .
If a person follows certain aspects of religious
tradition Ie clothing Then there no problem .
Exactly otherwise France, Belgium and the Netherlands would be guilty of that.
France havent banned the burqa
They have banned any clothing that covers the face
Belfium has banned 300 burqa wearers from following there tradition out of a Million muslim population .
Nederlands has yet to prosecute anyone for wearing a burqa
Im pretty sure you will find , as every city said they would not enforce the ban .
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/07/switzerland-on-course-to-ban-wearing-of-burqa-and-niqab-in-public-places
Not what the guardian says but heyho i thought i would use that as we all know that a mail link would just be debunked.
Having a ban does not enforce a ban or bring prosecution
A headache doesnt always lead to a brain tumor .
Who saying it does? the whole point is that there is one in the 1st place does that make them Islamophobic?"If you read the articles you have linked you will see that opposition parties think it is . Also France hasnt banned the burqa specifically because it did not want to be seen as Islamophobic . Hioe this helps your understanding a little more . | |||
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"For the record ..I'll.disregard what I've said about labour. Lets keep this about the issue of racism in the gmnt Funny Buggered it up Johnson with his Muslim Heritage should be so anti burka .Which just goes to show that you can be anti burka but it does not mean you are anti Muslim
I dont think it does .
A burqa will be worn by some islamic traditions
Not by all .
It would be like claiming
That all Catholics are Right wing
Facist Francophiles & Cilice wearers
because opus dei may have done so at some point .
If a person follows certain aspects of religious
tradition Ie clothing Then there no problem .
Exactly otherwise France, Belgium and the Netherlands would be guilty of that.
France havent banned the burqa
They have banned any clothing that covers the face
Belfium has banned 300 burqa wearers from following there tradition out of a Million muslim population .
Nederlands has yet to prosecute anyone for wearing a burqa
Im pretty sure you will find , as every city said they would not enforce the ban .
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/07/switzerland-on-course-to-ban-wearing-of-burqa-and-niqab-in-public-places
Not what the guardian says but heyho i thought i would use that as we all know that a mail link would just be debunked.
Having a ban does not enforce a ban or bring prosecution
A headache doesnt always lead to a brain tumor .
Who saying it does? the whole point is that there is one in the 1st place does that make them Islamophobic?
If you read the articles you have linked you will see that opposition parties think it is .
Also France hasnt banned the burqa specifically because it did not want to be seen as Islamophobic .
Hioe this helps your understanding a little more ."I think i understand but you seem to be having trouble. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/france-burqa-ban-islamic-face-coverings-masks-mandatory/ Anyway have a good read of that and i will bid you farewell until next week i look foreward to continuing. | |||
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"Anti Muslim sentiment'remains a problem 'within the conservative party" No means individuals within the party | |||
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"Anti Muslim sentiment'remains a problem 'within the conservative partyNo means individuals within the party" Essentially if the party isn't getting to grip with the said individuals then it's a bigger issue.. Same as bullying.. | |||
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"Anti Muslim sentiment'remains a problem 'within the conservative partyNo means individuals within the party" Trying hard not to dive into whatabouttery... | |||
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"For the record ..I'll.disregard what I've said about labour. Lets keep this about the issue of racism in the gmnt Funny Buggered it up Johnson with his Muslim Heritage should be so anti burka .Which just goes to show that you can be anti burka but it does not mean you are anti Muslim
I dont think it does .
A burqa will be worn by some islamic traditions
Not by all .
It would be like claiming
That all Catholics are Right wing
Facist Francophiles & Cilice wearers
because opus dei may have done so at some point .
If a person follows certain aspects of religious
tradition Ie clothing Then there no problem .
Exactly otherwise France, Belgium and the Netherlands would be guilty of that.
France havent banned the burqa
They have banned any clothing that covers the face
Belfium has banned 300 burqa wearers from following there tradition out of a Million muslim population .
Nederlands has yet to prosecute anyone for wearing a burqa
Im pretty sure you will find , as every city said they would not enforce the ban .
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/07/switzerland-on-course-to-ban-wearing-of-burqa-and-niqab-in-public-places
Not what the guardian says but heyho i thought i would use that as we all know that a mail link would just be debunked.
Having a ban does not enforce a ban or bring prosecution
A headache doesnt always lead to a brain tumor .
Who saying it does? the whole point is that there is one in the 1st place does that make them Islamophobic?
If you read the articles you have linked you will see that opposition parties think it is .
Also France hasnt banned the burqa specifically because it did not want to be seen as Islamophobic .
Hioe this helps your understanding a little more .I think i understand but you seem to be having trouble.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/france-burqa-ban-islamic-face-coverings-masks-mandatory/
Anyway have a good read of that and i will bid you farewell until next week i look foreward to continuing. "The French government confirmed that its years-long ban on wearing burqas, niqabs and other full-face coverings in public will remain in place, even as face masks become mandatory on Monday. ***** So all face coverings not just islamic ones Yet strangely ****** While French citizens nationwide will be covering their faces, women who do so with Islamic garb are still subject to punishmentCan the Islamophobia be any more transparent?" Human Rights Watch executive director Kenneth Roth said on Twitter. "The French government mandates masks but still bans the burqua." ***** Kind of proves Islamophobia is in french politics | |||
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"Anti Muslim sentiment'remains a problem 'within the conservative partyNo means individuals within the party" So Labour wasnt raging with anti-semetism Only individuals . Glad you have cleared that up | |||
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"Anti Muslim sentiment'remains a problem 'within the conservative partyNo means individuals within the party So Labour wasnt raging with anti-semetism Only individuals . Glad you have cleared that up "I'm sure there are people in every political party that dont like other races, creeds , sexual persuasion, it's just the way it is, pretty childish making political point scoring the object. I believe every human being has likes and dislikes it will never change | |||
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"Anti Muslim sentiment'remains a problem 'within the conservative partyNo means individuals within the party So Labour wasnt raging with anti-semetism Only individuals . Glad you have cleared that up
I'm sure there are people in every political party that dont like other races, creeds , sexual persuasion, it's just the way it is, pretty childish making political point scoring the object. I believe every human being has likes and dislikes it will never change""Anti Muslim sentiment'remains a problem 'within the conservative party" No means individuals within the party | |||
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"Anti Muslim sentiment'remains a problem 'within the conservative partyNo means individuals within the party So Labour wasnt raging with anti-semetism Only individuals . Glad you have cleared that up "When the labour story broke people were literally creaming themselves on here. There was even a reference yesterday to Corbyns anti semitic trial. There were literally dozens of threads. Yet today those people screaming about racism, are strangely reticent Absolutely no double standards on here whatsoever | |||
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"Anti Muslim sentiment'remains a problem 'within the conservative partyNo means individuals within the party So Labour wasnt raging with anti-semetism Only individuals . Glad you have cleared that up
I'm sure there are people in every political party that dont like other races, creeds , sexual persuasion, it's just the way it is, pretty childish making political point scoring the object. I believe every human being has likes and dislikes it will never change"Did you say that about the anti semitism issue at labour? | |||
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"Anti Muslim sentiment'remains a problem 'within the conservative partyNo means individuals within the party So Labour wasnt raging with anti-semetism Only individuals . Glad you have cleared that up
I'm sure there are people in every political party that dont like other races, creeds , sexual persuasion, it's just the way it is, pretty childish making political point scoring the object. I believe every human being has likes and dislikes it will never change
"Anti Muslim sentiment'remains a problem 'within the conservative party"
No means individuals within the party"I just responded to somone trying to point score Who stated there was no problem with the conservative party . By using Labour as evidence that an inquiry found Was due to individuals in the Labour Party evidently being Anti Semetic , although Corbyn personally was admonished from this personally. There are many who still use the phrase The anti semetic Labour Party to point score I tend to find point scoring is a good way of balancing Those kind of comments if used against the Tory party Having a problem with islamaphobia . If anyone wants me to stop using that termn I will if you promise not to use the Labour party Is anti semetic . Especially if any further investigation Finds it to be so within the Tory Party . Hope that makes my point clear . | |||
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"Talk about floggin a dead horse......" Yep. Let's move on..who cares? | |||
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"Talk about floggin a dead horse......" Hardly a dead horse as its a current top news story https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57239483 | |||
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"Financial irregularities.. Nothing to see here Racism in the Tory party..nothing to see here Corbyn has done what??? " Who cares?? Corbyn an his ilk are history | |||
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"Financial irregularities.. Nothing to see here Racism in the Tory party..nothing to see here Corbyn has done what??? Who cares?? Corbyn an his ilk are history" Who cares about racism...yep good call | |||
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"Anti Muslim sentiment'remains a problem 'within the conservative partyNo means individuals within the party So Labour wasnt raging with anti-semetism Only individuals . Glad you have cleared that up
I'm sure there are people in every political party that dont like other races, creeds , sexual persuasion, it's just the way it is, pretty childish making political point scoring the object. I believe every human being has likes and dislikes it will never change
Did you say that about the anti semitism issue at labour?"Seeing as you appear to spend all day every day on here you know I have never accused labour of being anti semitic or have I accused corbyn of that. I have said time and time again humans are tribal we ALL dislike some sections of society, you dislike the tories, those to the right of centre and the daily mail among others,does that make you a bad person ? | |||
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"Anti Muslim sentiment'remains a problem 'within the conservative partyNo means individuals within the party So Labour wasnt raging with anti-semetism Only individuals . Glad you have cleared that up
I'm sure there are people in every political party that dont like other races, creeds , sexual persuasion, it's just the way it is, pretty childish making political point scoring the object. I believe every human being has likes and dislikes it will never change
Did you say that about the anti semitism issue at labour?
Seeing as you appear to spend all day every day on here you know I have never accused labour of being anti semitic or have I accused corbyn of that. I have said time and time again humans are tribal we ALL dislike some sections of society, you dislike the tories, those to the right of centre and the daily mail among others,does that make you a bad person ? "Tut tut Making it personal again | |||
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"Some peeps are jus born losers. Its human nature i suppose" And some people are just born racists | |||
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"Anti Muslim sentiment'remains a problem 'within the conservative partyNo means individuals within the party So Labour wasnt raging with anti-semetism Only individuals . Glad you have cleared that up
I'm sure there are people in every political party that dont like other races, creeds , sexual persuasion, it's just the way it is, pretty childish making political point scoring the object. I believe every human being has likes and dislikes it will never change
Did you say that about the anti semitism issue at labour?
Seeing as you appear to spend all day every day on here you know I have never accused labour of being anti semitic or have I accused corbyn of that. I have said time and time again humans are tribal we ALL dislike some sections of society, you dislike the tories, those to the right of centre and the daily mail among others,does that make you a bad person ?
Tut tut
Making it personal again
"Yes of course that's personal, not, usual tatic divert awkward questions and observations | |||
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"For the record I could count on 1 hand The number of people who didnt jump on the bandwagon when the anti semitism thing blew up." So who in your mind is the biggest racist JC or boris ? And just like in school we need to see your workings. | |||
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"Anti Muslim sentiment'remains a problem 'within the conservative partyNo means individuals within the party Essentially if the party isn't getting to grip with the said individuals then it's a bigger issue.. Same as bullying.." Possib;y but easier to deal with so no excuse for not sorting it quickly | |||
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"Nice to see the media taking it with the seriousness it deserves It makes 1 front page https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/news/2021/may/25/tory-islamophobia-report-criticises-boris-johnson-over-burqa-remarks" . Hello. Probably because enquiries such as these are simply a waste of money and those undertaking a review have to justify its cost. Most people in the UK simply accept that race relations in the UK are good. There are a lot of topics which take a much greater priority. You will be pleased to know that it is on Page 2 of the Daily Mail and is given an entire page. | |||
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