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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

Said a female cop at a London demo and the chief of police is furious. Should the WPC be sacked or congratulated...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Re educated as to what is expected of them when in uniform, I reckon.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If it's free, I'll take 2. One for now and another for on the way home.

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By *aykhanMan  over a year ago

sheffield

Should be saluted

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Re educated as to what is expected of them when in uniform, I reckon."

This she dropped a bollock and should be neither sacked or congratulated.

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By *yron69Man  over a year ago

Fareham

Military muscle killing children is criminal.

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By *iamondCougarWoman  over a year ago

Norfuck! / Lincolnshire

You keep your personal opinions to yourself when in uniform

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By *iamondCougarWoman  over a year ago

Norfuck! / Lincolnshire

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

To be fair these protestors are not hardened criminals. They are concerned about the environment and the treatment of animals

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By *wisted999Man  over a year ago

North Bucks

Reminded that they are to appear impartial. She’s not long in service and shouldn’t be hung out to dry.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Re educated as to what is expected of them when in uniform, I reckon."

Agreed

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By *heVonMatterhornsCouple  over a year ago

Lincoln


"You keep your personal opinions to yourself when in uniform "

The police, military, and presumably other public services are supposed to be apolitical.

LvM

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By *ollydoesWoman  over a year ago

Shangri-La

Not against what was said but shouldn't of been said in uniform while on duty representing the police. May even been frowed upon off duty to

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

When on duty they should be impartial in my opinion, no public expressions of support or public expressions against any cause, from this, to taking the knee, to extinction rebellion, to being a leaver or remainer in Brexit or whatever, while at work stay neutral.

I can imagine those praising her would criticise if she had supported Israel and vice versa those who are upset by it would pleased if she supported Israel. So don’t give either side the chance to whinge

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Re educated as to what is expected of them when in uniform, I reckon."

Exactly what should be expected, police should remain impartial and not be involved in politics

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You keep your personal opinions to yourself when in uniform "

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By *riskynriskyCouple  over a year ago

Essex.


"Military muscle killing children is criminal."

Yet terrorists killing innocent people is fine?

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By *hilloutMan  over a year ago

All over the place! Northwesr, , Southwest


"When on duty they should be impartial in my opinion, no public expressions of support or public expressions against any cause, from this, to taking the knee, to extinction rebellion, to being a leaver or remainer in Brexit or whatever, while at work stay neutral.

I can imagine those praising her would criticise if she had supported Israel and vice versa those who are upset by it would pleased if she supported Israel. So don’t give either side the chance to whinge "

Very much this

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By *rHotNottsMan  over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"You keep your personal opinions to yourself when in uniform

"

Or you have a conscience, use your position and take risks for things you care about. You might find she’s more than happy to take the consequences

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By *acey_RedWoman  over a year ago

Liverpool


"You keep your personal opinions to yourself when in uniform

The police, military, and presumably other public services are supposed to be apolitical.

LvM"

I think it depends. Striking is technically political, as is campaigning against finding cuts. There's definitely a line though and it's better to act as a collective rather than an individual as individuals expressing views when representing a public profession will be assumed to be expressing views on behalf of the whole profession.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

where do I get this "free" Palestine

seems like it could solve a few problems

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By *acey_RedWoman  over a year ago

Liverpool


"Military muscle killing children is criminal.

Yet terrorists killing innocent people is fine?"

I don't think anybody would agree with that.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

People have very short, or "selective" memories. Palestine has some horrendous human rights issues - subjugation of women, treating them like possessions not humans, little or no education. Female children as young as 11 years old being sold into marriage to men 3 or 4 times their age, persecution, torture and murder of homosexuals, forcing boys as young as 10 into being soldiers and suicide bombers.

Did you know, that in Palestine, selling land to a Jewish person is a crime punishable by death. I'm not saying that Israel is the land of milk and money, but they don't do this shit to their people

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By *aitonelMan  over a year ago

Travelling


"People have very short, or "selective" memories. Palestine has some horrendous human rights issues - subjugation of women, treating them like possessions not humans, little or no education. Female children as young as 11 years old being sold into marriage to men 3 or 4 times their age, persecution, torture and murder of homosexuals, forcing boys as young as 10 into being soldiers and suicide bombers.

Did you know, that in Palestine, selling land to a Jewish person is a crime punishable by death. I'm not saying that Israel is the land of milk and money, but they don't do this shit to their people "

Missing the point there.

It is not about one side being good and one side evil. Or what things a country does as a whole, it is about the innocents that have very little to do with, or have any interest in a war having to suffer for it. People would still be yelling for it to stop if it were the other way around, or any other countries involved.

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By *aitonelMan  over a year ago

Travelling


"When on duty they should be impartial in my opinion, no public expressions of support or public expressions against any cause, from this, to taking the knee, to extinction rebellion, to being a leaver or remainer in Brexit or whatever, while at work stay neutral.

I can imagine those praising her would criticise if she had supported Israel and vice versa those who are upset by it would pleased if she supported Israel. So don’t give either side the chance to whinge

Very much this "

I agree with this. Though I am torn, as it is something that must make the job of a police officer extremely difficult. Having to be impartial but still want to stand up for justice and doing the right thing.

Impartial during duty is key to being a police officer, but gut instincts and a sense of right and wrong will often conflict with it.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

But police fly the rainbow flag every year.. is that being impartial?

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By *riskynriskyCouple  over a year ago

Essex.


"Military muscle killing children is criminal.

Yet terrorists killing innocent people is fine?

I don't think anybody would agree with that. "

Yet people readily jump on Israel for defending itself but don't mention the terrorist attacks, often based in schools and hospitals.

People tend to forget that Israel is a very multi cultural place, full of Jews, Christians and Muslims living together in peace.

Israel also give warnings before sticking at terrorist targets.

I'm not saying Israel is perfect, it feels like a lot of the time people don't know what they are supporting.

People also forget that terrorists see everyone as expendable in the fight for their cause.

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By *nabelle21Woman  over a year ago

B38


"You keep your personal opinions to yourself when in uniform

Or you have a conscience, use your position and take risks for things you care about. You might find she’s more than happy to take the consequences "

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By *riskynriskyCouple  over a year ago

Essex.


"You keep your personal opinions to yourself when in uniform

Or you have a conscience, use your position and take risks for things you care about. You might find she’s more than happy to take the consequences "

Most people agreeing with what she did, would be the same ones screaming for her job if she sided with something they didn't agree with.

What if she had said "Down with Israel and ban LGBT"?

A lot of Muslims and Christians disagree with homosexuality, to the point of killing family members because it offends their beliefs and brings shame to the family, she's OK to support that as a police officer if she feels strongly enough?

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By *nabelle21Woman  over a year ago

B38


"You keep your personal opinions to yourself when in uniform

Or you have a conscience, use your position and take risks for things you care about. You might find she’s more than happy to take the consequences

Most people agreeing with what she did, would be the same ones screaming for her job if she sided with something they didn't agree with.

What if she had said "Down with Israel and ban LGBT"?

A lot of Muslims and Christians disagree with homosexuality, to the point of killing family members because it offends their beliefs and brings shame to the family, she's OK to support that as a police officer if she feels strongly enough?

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Are you saying that a person shouldn't stand up for what they believe in?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You keep your personal opinions to yourself when in uniform

Or you have a conscience, use your position and take risks for things you care about. You might find she’s more than happy to take the consequences

Most people agreeing with what she did, would be the same ones screaming for her job if she sided with something they didn't agree with.

What if she had said "Down with Israel and ban LGBT"?

A lot of Muslims and Christians disagree with homosexuality, to the point of killing family members because it offends their beliefs and brings shame to the family, she's OK to support that as a police officer if she feels strongly enough?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

This is precisely why I would never work in public office in the uk. You’re working for a system that talks about freedom and equality, yet simultaneously gags its employees and suppresses their individual beliefs.

Everyone should have the right to free speech - though having said that, knowing she’d get thrown under the bus for using that freedom in that way while in uniform (as I believe was the case), you have to question her timing, even if she was speaking for herself.

Work for public sector and accept the gagging order, or work for it and “break protocol”. I think it’s wrong - but you make your own choice when you take office.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"To be fair these protestors are not hardened criminals. They are concerned about the environment and the treatment of animals"

Wrong protest Tom ?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Military muscle killing children is criminal.

Yet terrorists killing innocent people is fine?"

No one said that.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"To be fair these protestors are not hardened criminals. They are concerned about the environment and the treatment of animals

Wrong protest Tom ?"

I did wonder

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"To be fair these protestors are not hardened criminals. They are concerned about the environment and the treatment of animals

Wrong protest Tom ?

I did wonder "

No matter in FAB The thread went off track in any case........ No change there then.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

She has the same rights as everybody else regarding public protest when she is OFF duty.

She showed bad judgement on duty. She showed weakness on duty. She showed lack of experience.

I think her service record should be examined and a decision made as to whether she is suitable for supportive training i.e. a bloody good cop who exercised poor judgement in a moment or whether it is time to let her go.

The age of the technology eh ? A few years ago and no one would have had a scooby that she tried to placate those goading her.....

Is that a good or a bad thing?

Stop picking your nose. My mic picks up every sound..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"She has the same rights as everybody else regarding public protest when she is OFF duty.

She showed bad judgement on duty. She showed weakness on duty. She showed lack of experience.

I think her service record should be examined and a decision made as to whether she is suitable for supportive training i.e. a bloody good cop who exercised poor judgement in a moment or whether it is time to let her go.

The age of the technology eh ? A few years ago and no one would have had a scooby that she tried to placate those goading her.....

Is that a good or a bad thing?

Stop picking your nose. My mic picks up every sound.. "

This. Except the nose part x

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By *ty31Man  over a year ago

NW London

I read that the WPC in question is 20 year old rookie, not long out of training. I think sacking her would be harsh and disproportionate. She should be reminded that the job of a police officer is to be fair and impartial.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I read that the WPC in question is 20 year old rookie, not long out of training. I think sacking her would be harsh and disproportionate. She should be reminded that the job of a police officer is to be fair and impartial."

Scary really,

20 years old. 3 months training. 6 months on the force.

How can you be wordly wise after 3 months training?

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"I read that the WPC in question is 20 year old rookie, not long out of training. I think sacking her would be harsh and disproportionate. She should be reminded that the job of a police officer is to be fair and impartial.

Scary really,

20 years old. 3 months training. 6 months on the force.

How can you be wordly wise after 3 months training? "

Exactly everyone has to learn

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By *laytimenowMan  over a year ago

Essex


"I read that the WPC in question is 20 year old rookie, not long out of training. I think sacking her would be harsh and disproportionate. She should be reminded that the job of a police officer is to be fair and impartial.

Scary really,

20 years old. 3 months training. 6 months on the force.

How can you be wordly wise after 3 months training? Exactly everyone has to learn "

What has age got to do with it ?

Or length of time on the Job ?

TTBL

PC Jamie Lewis, PC Deniz Jaffer .

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By *ERRIBLE TWOSUMCouple  over a year ago

Suck mammys strap-on


"Military muscle killing children is criminal.

Yet terrorists killing innocent people is fine?"

this exactly...seems a few here think Hamas launched love bombs into Israel instead of high explosives

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By *laytimenowMan  over a year ago

Essex


"Military muscle killing children is criminal.

Yet terrorists killing innocent people is fine?this exactly...seems a few here think Hamas launched love bombs into Israel instead of high explosives "

Number 6 of the 10 Commandments

Thou shall not Kill.

Number 8 of the 10 commandments

Thou shall not Steal .

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By *uliaChrisCouple  over a year ago

westerham


"You keep your personal opinions to yourself when in uniform

Or you have a conscience, use your position and take risks for things you care about. You might find she’s more than happy to take the consequences "

She doesn't have a position. She wasn't elected. She's not in charge of anything. She has no responsibility other than chasing down criminals and cracking skulls.

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By *ERRIBLE TWOSUMCouple  over a year ago

Suck mammys strap-on


"She has the same rights as everybody else regarding public protest when she is OFF duty.

She showed bad judgement on duty. She showed weakness on duty. She showed lack of experience.

I think her service record should be examined and a decision made as to whether she is suitable for supportive training i.e. a bloody good cop who exercised poor judgement in a moment or whether it is time to let her go.

The age of the technology eh ? A few years ago and no one would have had a scooby that she tried to placate those goading her.....

Is that a good or a bad thing?

Stop picking your nose. My mic picks up every sound.. "

you don't bow or kneel to the mob

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By *ERRIBLE TWOSUMCouple  over a year ago

Suck mammys strap-on


"Military muscle killing children is criminal.

Yet terrorists killing innocent people is fine?this exactly...seems a few here think Hamas launched love bombs into Israel instead of high explosives

Number 6 of the 10 Commandments

Thou shall not Kill.

Number 8 of the 10 commandments

Thou shall not Steal .

"

we get it,you think raining down high explosives on Israel citizens be they Jewish,Christians or Muslim is fine...but returning the favour to Hamas is bad...good to know what side off the fence your on

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By *laytimenowMan  over a year ago

Essex


"Military muscle killing children is criminal.

Yet terrorists killing innocent people is fine?this exactly...seems a few here think Hamas launched love bombs into Israel instead of high explosives

Number 6 of the 10 Commandments

Thou shall not Kill.

Number 8 of the 10 commandments

Thou shall not Steal .

we get it,you think raining down high explosives on Israel citizens be they Jewish,Christians or Muslim is fine...but returning the favour to Hamas is bad...good to know what side off the fence your on "

Im on Gods side of the fence

He passed the commandments on

Thou shall not kill

Thou shall not steal

Thou.shall not bear false witness

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By *rHotNottsMan  over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"You keep your personal opinions to yourself when in uniform

Or you have a conscience, use your position and take risks for things you care about. You might find she’s more than happy to take the consequences

She doesn't have a position. She wasn't elected. She's not in charge of anything. She has no responsibility other than chasing down criminals and cracking skulls. "

Clearly she does, she made the news and now even swingers on a forum are debating it, so I guess it worked out really well for her

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By *ornyH90Man  over a year ago

Edinburgh

So it's perfectly okay for the police to fly the rainbow flag. And it's perfectly okay for the police to take the knee during BLM protests. But completely not okay for the police to stand in solidarity with Palestine. Hmm okay then. Double standards as usual. Nothing new then.

Also, so many sheep/zionists on here, believing whatever is fed to them by the BBC and the zionist controlled media. Go and educate yourselves.

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By *uliaChrisCouple  over a year ago

westerham


"You keep your personal opinions to yourself when in uniform

Or you have a conscience, use your position and take risks for things you care about. You might find she’s more than happy to take the consequences

She doesn't have a position. She wasn't elected. She's not in charge of anything. She has no responsibility other than chasing down criminals and cracking skulls.

Clearly she does, she made the news and now even swingers on a forum are debating it, so I guess it worked out really well for her "

Certainly worked out well for the criminals she's employed to chase down.

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By *uliaChrisCouple  over a year ago

westerham


"So it's perfectly okay for the police to fly the rainbow flag. And it's perfectly okay for the police to take the knee during BLM protests. But completely not okay for the police to stand in solidarity with Palestine. Hmm okay then. Double standards as usual. Nothing new then.

Also, so many sheep/zionists on here, believing whatever is fed to them by the BBC and the zionist controlled media. Go and educate yourselves.

"

I don't think the police should be doing any of that. Its not OK.

If you check the national mood rather than the bleeding edge of a tiny woke minority, you'll find most people don't want the police virtue signalling anything other than the sharp end of a truncheon.

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By *wisted999Man  over a year ago

North Bucks


"I read that the WPC in question is 20 year old rookie, not long out of training. I think sacking her would be harsh and disproportionate. She should be reminded that the job of a police officer is to be fair and impartial.

Scary really,

20 years old. 3 months training. 6 months on the force.

How can you be wordly wise after 3 months training? "

The length of training is ridiculous. Perhaps if the training was longer and more taxing then we wouldn’t have the Police put in these situations.

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By *ERRIBLE TWOSUMCouple  over a year ago

Suck mammys strap-on


"So it's perfectly okay for the police to fly the rainbow flag. And it's perfectly okay for the police to take the knee during BLM protests. But completely not okay for the police to stand in solidarity with Palestine. Hmm okay then. Double standards as usual. Nothing new then.

Also, so many sheep/zionists on here, believing whatever is fed to them by the BBC and the zionist controlled media. Go and educate yourselves.

"

No it wasn't OK for the police in any European or American country to take the knee for BLM...it only emboldens the mob..and sure that worked out great eh...ah the old Zionist media line as they say,tinfoil hats and all that.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Personal opinions need kept to yourself when a servant to the public

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By *laytimenowMan  over a year ago

Essex


"Personal opinions need kept to yourself when a servant to the public"

Sould that include a police officer watching a Racist police officer forcing the life out of someone whilenhis knee is

On his neck ?

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Personal opinions need kept to yourself when a servant to the public

Sould that include a police officer watching a Racist police officer forcing the life out of someone whilenhis knee is

On his neck ?"

Not sure racism was mentioned in the trial..

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By *laytimenowMan  over a year ago

Essex


"Personal opinions need kept to yourself when a servant to the public

Sould that include a police officer watching a Racist police officer forcing the life out of someone whilenhis knee is

On his neck ?

Not sure racism was mentioned in the trial.."

A quote from someone above

we get it,you think raining down high explosives on Israel citizens be they Jewish,Christians or Muslim is fine...but returning the favour to Hamas is bad...good to know what side off the fence your on" .

Likes to accuse Admin of banning people for no reason

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By *ERRIBLE TWOSUMCouple  over a year ago

Suck mammys strap-on


"Personal opinions need kept to yourself when a servant to the public

Sould that include a police officer watching a Racist police officer forcing the life out of someone whilenhis knee is

On his neck ?"

Race wasn't brought up in the trail...but sure race baiting is up your street

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Personal opinions need kept to yourself when a servant to the public

Sould that include a police officer watching a Racist police officer forcing the life out of someone whilenhis knee is

On his neck ?"

The police officer watching failed to do his duty under the law. If he failed because of a personal belief - that he was racist, that is why "Personal opinions need kept to yourself when a servant to the public". If a middle-aged white police officer was clapping and cheering for Tommy Robinson, what would your opinion of that police officer be?

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By *laytimenowMan  over a year ago

Essex


"Personal opinions need kept to yourself when a servant to the public

Sould that include a police officer watching a Racist police officer forcing the life out of someone whilenhis knee is

On his neck ?Race wasn't brought up in the trail...but sure race baiting is up your street "

It was only about a racist policeman taking someones life .

Hypothetically speaking no officer colour was mentioned by me

And Neither was victims colour mentioned by me .

Just a racist officer taking someones life .

Should an officer with moral concerns not be able to make a judgement call on another officer with Racist concerns

Allow a life to be lost , because his beliefs conflict with someone elses ?

If you equate it to other historical events , then that i am afraid is down to what ever views you may have

Racist or Non Racist .ife does not need to be ended

Only you can answer that question .

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By *artyHardMan  over a year ago

North

Free Palestine

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By *estivalMan  over a year ago

borehamwood


"Re educated as to what is expected of them when in uniform, I reckon."
re educated pmsl sounds a bit totalitarian

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By *enSiskoMan  over a year ago

Cestus 3

Free Palestine

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Free Palestine from brutal Islamic rule.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Not even going to get into the mental gymnastics of those who parrot 'Free Palestine'. It's not that simple, especially now decades have gone by and folk have been born and grown up in those lands as they are now.

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By *rHotNottsMan  over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"Not even going to get into the mental gymnastics of those who parrot 'Free Palestine'. It's not that simple, especially now decades have gone by and folk have been born and grown up in those lands as they are now."

True, but they could start by dismantling the apartheid, they managed it in RSA

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Immediate dismissal

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

At the end of the day she is supporting terrorists, murdering terrorists, maybe if the terrorises had no support of any kind then they would cease to exist

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By *amish SMan  over a year ago

Eastleigh


"Military muscle killing children is criminal.

Yet terrorists killing innocent people is fine?

I don't think anybody would agree with that. "

You're wrong, civilians in Gaza seemed to be celebrating good and proper Saturday.

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By *astandFeistyCouple  over a year ago

Bournemouth


"Military muscle killing children is criminal.

Yet terrorists killing innocent people is fine?

I don't think anybody would agree with that.

You're wrong, civilians in Gaza seemed to be celebrating good and proper Saturday."

If the images I'm seeing are real then it's not just civilians in Gaza celebrating.

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By *melie LALWoman  over a year ago

Peterborough


"Immediate dismissal"

Immediate? That was over a year ago

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By *eroy1000Man  over a year ago

milton keynes


"Military muscle killing children is criminal.

Yet terrorists killing innocent people is fine?

I don't think anybody would agree with that.

You're wrong, civilians in Gaza seemed to be celebrating good and proper Saturday.

If the images I'm seeing are real then it's not just civilians in Gaza celebrating. "

They have been celebrating in many places and also appear offended of shows of solidarity with Israel. According to the BBC a council office somewhere in the UK was flying the Israeli flag. Protesters climbed up, removed it and replaced it with a Palestine flag.

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By *astandFeistyCouple  over a year ago

Bournemouth


"Military muscle killing children is criminal.

Yet terrorists killing innocent people is fine?

I don't think anybody would agree with that.

You're wrong, civilians in Gaza seemed to be celebrating good and proper Saturday.

If the images I'm seeing are real then it's not just civilians in Gaza celebrating.

They have been celebrating in many places and also appear offended of shows of solidarity with Israel. According to the BBC a council office somewhere in the UK was flying the Israeli flag. Protesters climbed up, removed it and replaced it with a Palestine flag. "

That was Sheffield. I understand if they're upset by people standing with Israel. I do not understand celebrations, I'll never understand that.

But then again, BUT ISRAEL...

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By *artyHardMan  over a year ago

North

Mental gymnastics lol anyone saying free Palestine is purely showing solidarity with the Palestinian people. Us Irish nationalists know exactly what it’s like to be occupied & governed by foreign officials that aren’t wanted! Irish nationalists had their houses burned woman assaulted denied a vote etc etc, this is why we show solidarity to the Palestinian people. It’s not that hard to fathom!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Over 100 anti-semitic incidents reported so far in London alone.

Bess

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Over 100 anti-semitic incidents reported so far in London alone.

Bess "

Bess, we agree on very very little but I hope you and Jews around the country keep safe. The inability to separate Israel and the actions of Israel from Jews is what leads to these scary rises in antisemitism when things like this happen.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think people should be able to believe in a free Palestine and believe that the actions of the Israeli government are abhorrent whilst also not being antisemitic. The Israeli government are acting illegally by attacking civilian targets and by denying Palestinians access to resources. This needs to be globally condemned. And I’m condemning, people need not conflate Israel or the Israeli government with the Jewish diaspora.

And we have to be clear in calling out conflations of Palestine and Hamas because they are different. Hamas are not Palestine and they’re not the Palestinian authority.

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By *enSiskoMan  over a year ago

Cestus 3

I have no idea why the Palestinians are attacking the Israelis.

They are given everything they need whilst in their compounds, Food, Water and electricity.

They can leave whenever they wish, go where ever they wish.

One would think they have been terrorised the way they have acted, killing innocent people and the like.

The Israelis would do no such thing, it is their country and the Palestinians are just living there by the grace of Israel.

They bite the hands that feed them so they deserve what they get, as Israel is a peaceful nation and have never attacked or murdered anyone ever.

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By *artyHardMan  over a year ago

North


"I have no idea why the Palestinians are attacking the Israelis.

They are given everything they need whilst in their compounds, Food, Water and electricity.

They can leave whenever they wish, go where ever they wish.

One would think they have been terrorised the way they have acted, killing innocent people and the like.

The Israelis would do no such thing, it is their country and the Palestinians are just living there by the grace of Israel.

They bite the hands that feed them so they deserve what they get, as Israel is a peaceful nation and have never attacked or murdered anyone ever."

Tell me you’re a Brit without telling me you’re a Brit. What a statement

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I have no idea why the Palestinians are attacking the Israelis.

They are given everything they need whilst in their compounds, Food, Water and electricity.

They can leave whenever they wish, go where ever they wish.

One would think they have been terrorised the way they have acted, killing innocent people and the like.

The Israelis would do no such thing, it is their country and the Palestinians are just living there by the grace of Israel.

They bite the hands that feed them so they deserve what they get, as Israel is a peaceful nation and have never attacked or murdered anyone ever.

Tell me you’re a Brit without telling me you’re a Brit. What a statement "

I think it's an attempt at irony

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By *enSiskoMan  over a year ago

Cestus 3


"I have no idea why the Palestinians are attacking the Israelis.

They are given everything they need whilst in their compounds, Food, Water and electricity.

They can leave whenever they wish, go where ever they wish.

One would think they have been terrorised the way they have acted, killing innocent people and the like.

The Israelis would do no such thing, it is their country and the Palestinians are just living there by the grace of Israel.

They bite the hands that feed them so they deserve what they get, as Israel is a peaceful nation and have never attacked or murdered anyone ever.

Tell me you’re a Brit without telling me you’re a Brit. What a statement "

Whats wrong with my statement, I saw it on YouTube.

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By *enSiskoMan  over a year ago

Cestus 3


"I have no idea why the Palestinians are attacking the Israelis.

They are given everything they need whilst in their compounds, Food, Water and electricity.

They can leave whenever they wish, go where ever they wish.

One would think they have been terrorised the way they have acted, killing innocent people and the like.

The Israelis would do no such thing, it is their country and the Palestinians are just living there by the grace of Israel.

They bite the hands that feed them so they deserve what they get, as Israel is a peaceful nation and have never attacked or murdered anyone ever.

Tell me you’re a Brit without telling me you’re a Brit. What a statement

I think it's an attempt at irony "

Irony?

No it is the truth, open air compounds, food electric and water. well food water and electric are now cut off.

But they still have their homes, that has got to be a bonus. and they are alive, well for now most of them.

Leave Israel alone and let them do their thing.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Over 100 anti-semitic incidents reported so far in London alone.

Bess

Bess, we agree on very very little but I hope you and Jews around the country keep safe. The inability to separate Israel and the actions of Israel from Jews is what leads to these scary rises in antisemitism when things like this happen. "

Thank you Steve, I appreciate that.

Bess

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Free us from Muslims

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan  over a year ago

golden fields


"Free us from Muslims "

Are all 1.8 billion of them holding you somewhere?

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By *mmmMaybeCouple  over a year ago

West Wales


"I have no idea why the Palestinians are attacking the Israelis.

They are given everything they need whilst in their compounds, Food, Water and electricity.

They can leave whenever they wish, go where ever they wish.

One would think they have been terrorised the way they have acted, killing innocent people and the like.

The Israelis would do no such thing, it is their country and the Palestinians are just living there by the grace of Israel.

They bite the hands that feed them so they deserve what they get, as Israel is a peaceful nation and have never attacked or murdered anyone ever."

Fck me! I thought I was a bit one sided

“They are given everything they need while in their compounds, but bite the hands that feed them!”

Who the fck do you think you are Johnny Fcking Morris!

S

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If your humanity is selective, then you have no humanity

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By *orleymanMan  over a year ago

Leeds


"Said a female cop at a London demo and the chief of police is furious. Should the WPC be sacked or congratulated... "

The police should be independent of any movement and do their job. No slogans no kneeling, no joining in in chorus or cries.

Sack whoever can't uphold their impartiality.

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By *eroy1000Man  over a year ago

milton keynes


"Military muscle killing children is criminal.

Yet terrorists killing innocent people is fine?

I don't think anybody would agree with that.

You're wrong, civilians in Gaza seemed to be celebrating good and proper Saturday.

If the images I'm seeing are real then it's not just civilians in Gaza celebrating.

They have been celebrating in many places and also appear offended of shows of solidarity with Israel. According to the BBC a council office somewhere in the UK was flying the Israeli flag. Protesters climbed up, removed it and replaced it with a Palestine flag.

That was Sheffield. I understand if they're upset by people standing with Israel. I do not understand celebrations, I'll never understand that.

But then again, BUT ISRAEL..."

Your right it was Sheffield and as far as I know no arrests were made.

To me a person or institution should be able to show support if they wish without fear and without others trying to stop them. Otherwise all those celebrating the heinous crimes committed by Hamas should also be stopped. I hear that Wembley stadium will not be lit up in Israeli colours for fear of backlash

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan  over a year ago

nearby


"Said a female cop at a London demo and the chief of police is furious. Should the WPC be sacked or congratulated... "

She should be made to go and look at Hamas’s work and the charred bodies of young children

https://twitter.com/Ostrov_A?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

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By *enSiskoMan  over a year ago

Cestus 3


"I have no idea why the Palestinians are attacking the Israelis.

They are given everything they need whilst in their compounds, Food, Water and electricity.

They can leave whenever they wish, go where ever they wish.

One would think they have been terrorised the way they have acted, killing innocent people and the like.

The Israelis would do no such thing, it is their country and the Palestinians are just living there by the grace of Israel.

They bite the hands that feed them so they deserve what they get, as Israel is a peaceful nation and have never attacked or murdered anyone ever.

Fck me! I thought I was a bit one sided

“They are given everything they need while in their compounds, but bite the hands that feed them!”

Who the fck do you think you are Johnny Fcking Morris!

S"

Who is Jonny Morris, and who is he fcking.

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By *otMe66Man  over a year ago

Terra Firma


"Said a female cop at a London demo and the chief of police is furious. Should the WPC be sacked or congratulated... "

After watching the video, 100% sack her.

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By *iman2100Man  over a year ago

Glasgow

Look at the background to this.

The first kibbutz was created in 1907 in Tel Aviv. Palestine was then part of the Ottoman Empire which lost it during the 1st World War to Britain.

In 1917 the British minister Balfour pledged support for the establishment of a Jewish National Home in Palestine. The British ruled Palestine from 1918 to 1948 when they relinquished control following a UN decision.

At that time Palestine did not exist as a state. The areas of the West Bank and Gazza were administrated by Jordan and Egypt. Israel is registered as a country in the UN. Palestine is not.

So, it is a huge mess in which Hamas, which wants to create an Islamic State, has as its primary aim the annihilation of ALL Jews.

The only solution would appear to be a democratic one, but whilst religions control countries and the minds of fanatics, there is sadly little chance of that happening.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The only message am getting from this conflict is ' might is right.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The only message am getting from this conflict is ' might is right."

That's the only message you're getting? I'm getting lots of messages. That many sick people think slaughtering and beheading babies is justifiable. That many twisted sub-humans think it's worth celebrating that hundreds of young people at a peace music _estival were massacred without warning. That women were r*ped and pregnant women had unborn foetuses cut from their living bodies is something to be happy about. Those are the messages that I'm seeing.

Palestine needs freeing alright - it, and the world, needs freeing from every single bastard Hamas coward and ALL of their supporters.

Bess

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The only message am getting from this conflict is ' might is right.

That's the only message you're getting? I'm getting lots of messages. That many sick people think slaughtering and beheading babies is justifiable. That many twisted sub-humans think it's worth celebrating that hundreds of young people at a peace music _estival were massacred without warning. That women were r*ped and pregnant women had unborn foetuses cut from their living bodies is something to be happy about. Those are the messages that I'm seeing.

Palestine needs freeing alright - it, and the world, needs freeing from every single bastard Hamas coward and ALL of their supporters.

Bess"

Nope the only message is " might is right"

"My suffering is greater than yours"

" don't dare raise your voice against us"

If you interpret raising you voice for one group of innocents is justifying terror and brutality on another group, thats your choice. When will you think the revenge will have gone far enough, do you a figure in your head. If its a eye for a eye, then its already done.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The only message am getting from this conflict is ' might is right.

That's the only message you're getting? I'm getting lots of messages. That many sick people think slaughtering and beheading babies is justifiable. That many twisted sub-humans think it's worth celebrating that hundreds of young people at a peace music _estival were massacred without warning. That women were r*ped and pregnant women had unborn foetuses cut from their living bodies is something to be happy about. Those are the messages that I'm seeing.

Palestine needs freeing alright - it, and the world, needs freeing from every single bastard Hamas coward and ALL of their supporters.

Bess

Nope the only message is " might is right"

"My suffering is greater than yours"

" don't dare raise your voice against us"

If you interpret raising you voice for one group of innocents is justifying terror and brutality on another group, thats your choice. When will you think the revenge will have gone far enough, do you a figure in your head. If its a eye for a eye, then its already done.

"

Revenge will have gone far enough when every single Hamas coward and their supporters no longer exist. The world will be grateful. And as for the "eye for an eye" nonsense, there will always be at least one who keeps their eyes - the victor, and it won't be a sub-human Hamas piece of shit.

Bess

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The only message am getting from this conflict is ' might is right.

That's the only message you're getting? I'm getting lots of messages. That many sick people think slaughtering and beheading babies is justifiable. That many twisted sub-humans think it's worth celebrating that hundreds of young people at a peace music _estival were massacred without warning. That women were r*ped and pregnant women had unborn foetuses cut from their living bodies is something to be happy about. Those are the messages that I'm seeing.

Palestine needs freeing alright - it, and the world, needs freeing from every single bastard Hamas coward and ALL of their supporters.

Bess

Nope the only message is " might is right"

"My suffering is greater than yours"

" don't dare raise your voice against us"

If you interpret raising you voice for one group of innocents is justifying terror and brutality on another group, thats your choice. When will you think the revenge will have gone far enough, do you a figure in your head. If its a eye for a eye, then its already done.

Revenge will have gone far enough when every single Hamas coward and their supporters no longer exist. The world will be grateful. And as for the "eye for an eye" nonsense, there will always be at least one who keeps their eyes - the victor, and it won't be a sub-human Hamas piece of shit.

Bess"

Hopefully your lust for blood will be quenched soon and you can be at peace.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The only message am getting from this conflict is ' might is right.

That's the only message you're getting? I'm getting lots of messages. That many sick people think slaughtering and beheading babies is justifiable. That many twisted sub-humans think it's worth celebrating that hundreds of young people at a peace music _estival were massacred without warning. That women were r*ped and pregnant women had unborn foetuses cut from their living bodies is something to be happy about. Those are the messages that I'm seeing.

Palestine needs freeing alright - it, and the world, needs freeing from every single bastard Hamas coward and ALL of their supporters.

Bess

Nope the only message is " might is right"

"My suffering is greater than yours"

" don't dare raise your voice against us"

If you interpret raising you voice for one group of innocents is justifying terror and brutality on another group, thats your choice. When will you think the revenge will have gone far enough, do you a figure in your head. If its a eye for a eye, then its already done.

Revenge will have gone far enough when every single Hamas coward and their supporters no longer exist. The world will be grateful. And as for the "eye for an eye" nonsense, there will always be at least one who keeps their eyes - the victor, and it won't be a sub-human Hamas piece of shit.

Bess

Hopefully your lust for blood will be quenched soon and you can be at peace."

Are you showing support for terrorism on an open forum?

Bess

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By *ensual-dominant-passionMan  over a year ago

sheffield


"The only message am getting from this conflict is ' might is right.

That's the only message you're getting? I'm getting lots of messages. That many sick people think slaughtering and beheading babies is justifiable. That many twisted sub-humans think it's worth celebrating that hundreds of young people at a peace music _estival were massacred without warning. That women were r*ped and pregnant women had unborn foetuses cut from their living bodies is something to be happy about. Those are the messages that I'm seeing.

Palestine needs freeing alright - it, and the world, needs freeing from every single bastard Hamas coward and ALL of their supporters.

Bess

Nope the only message is " might is right"

"My suffering is greater than yours"

" don't dare raise your voice against us"

If you interpret raising you voice for one group of innocents is justifying terror and brutality on another group, thats your choice. When will you think the revenge will have gone far enough, do you a figure in your head. If its a eye for a eye, then its already done.

Revenge will have gone far enough when every single Hamas coward and their supporters no longer exist. The world will be grateful. And as for the "eye for an eye" nonsense, there will always be at least one who keeps their eyes - the victor, and it won't be a sub-human Hamas piece of shit.

Bess"

Revenge is one thing… but to commit pure brutality on civilians while claiming they did that to us… what makes you better than them? They have cut off food supplies… water.. electricity… and now they want 1.2 million people to move in 24 hours… where are they meant to go… what about the wounded in hospital where are they meant to go… I’m sorry but your tone sounds like you couldn’t give a damn about those people… just concerned about what happened to one side… this is not Israel defending it self… this has genocide written all over it… and Israel are losing the moral high ground… support and solidarity does not give you the right to break international and humanitarian laws

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

In 2023 there were there have been more than 1800 terrorist attacks in Western Africa in which more than 4600 people were killed.

Not much sympathy in the media, political elite, public for those people or countries.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The only message am getting from this conflict is ' might is right.

That's the only message you're getting? I'm getting lots of messages. That many sick people think slaughtering and beheading babies is justifiable. That many twisted sub-humans think it's worth celebrating that hundreds of young people at a peace music _estival were massacred without warning. That women were r*ped and pregnant women had unborn foetuses cut from their living bodies is something to be happy about. Those are the messages that I'm seeing.

Palestine needs freeing alright - it, and the world, needs freeing from every single bastard Hamas coward and ALL of their supporters.

Bess

Nope the only message is " might is right"

"My suffering is greater than yours"

" don't dare raise your voice against us"

If you interpret raising you voice for one group of innocents is justifying terror and brutality on another group, thats your choice. When will you think the revenge will have gone far enough, do you a figure in your head. If its a eye for a eye, then its already done.

Revenge will have gone far enough when every single Hamas coward and their supporters no longer exist. The world will be grateful. And as for the "eye for an eye" nonsense, there will always be at least one who keeps their eyes - the victor, and it won't be a sub-human Hamas piece of shit.

Bess

Hopefully your lust for blood will be quenched soon and you can be at peace.

Are you showing support for terrorism on an open forum?

Bess"

No , you said you didn't want a stop to the violence until a hammas had been wiped out. I said hopefully you will be at peace when that happens. Are you looking for a argument for argument sake..?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The only message am getting from this conflict is ' might is right.

That's the only message you're getting? I'm getting lots of messages. That many sick people think slaughtering and beheading babies is justifiable. That many twisted sub-humans think it's worth celebrating that hundreds of young people at a peace music _estival were massacred without warning. That women were r*ped and pregnant women had unborn foetuses cut from their living bodies is something to be happy about. Those are the messages that I'm seeing.

Palestine needs freeing alright - it, and the world, needs freeing from every single bastard Hamas coward and ALL of their supporters.

Bess

Nope the only message is " might is right"

"My suffering is greater than yours"

" don't dare raise your voice against us"

If you interpret raising you voice for one group of innocents is justifying terror and brutality on another group, thats your choice. When will you think the revenge will have gone far enough, do you a figure in your head. If its a eye for a eye, then its already done.

Revenge will have gone far enough when every single Hamas coward and their supporters no longer exist. The world will be grateful. And as for the "eye for an eye" nonsense, there will always be at least one who keeps their eyes - the victor, and it won't be a sub-human Hamas piece of shit.

Bess

Revenge is one thing… but to commit pure brutality on civilians while claiming they did that to us… what makes you better than them? They have cut off food supplies… water.. electricity… and now they want 1.2 million people to move in 24 hours… where are they meant to go… what about the wounded in hospital where are they meant to go… I’m sorry but your tone sounds like you couldn’t give a damn about those people… just concerned about what happened to one side… this is not Israel defending it self… this has genocide written all over it… and Israel are losing the moral high ground… support and solidarity does not give you the right to break international and humanitarian laws"

Israel gave warning and is taking over the northern part of Gaza city. Did Hamas warn Israeli civilians about their imminent attack ? No they did not.

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By *ensual-dominant-passionMan  over a year ago

sheffield

The UN said it’s impossible for 1.2 million people to move to the south side in 24 hours…

Humanitarian aid workers have left saying they can’t work there as there is no supplies and is way too dangerous… as the bombs are dropping on civilians… not militants… people will start to starve… there will be no water supply… also no medical supplies to treat the wounded… basic anaesthetics.. they don’t have hospital beds… wounded are laying on the floor

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan  over a year ago

golden fields


"The only message am getting from this conflict is ' might is right.

That's the only message you're getting? I'm getting lots of messages. That many sick people think slaughtering and beheading babies is justifiable. That many twisted sub-humans think it's worth celebrating that hundreds of young people at a peace music _estival were massacred without warning. That women were r*ped and pregnant women had unborn foetuses cut from their living bodies is something to be happy about. Those are the messages that I'm seeing.

Palestine needs freeing alright - it, and the world, needs freeing from every single bastard Hamas coward and ALL of their supporters.

Bess

Nope the only message is " might is right"

"My suffering is greater than yours"

" don't dare raise your voice against us"

If you interpret raising you voice for one group of innocents is justifying terror and brutality on another group, thats your choice. When will you think the revenge will have gone far enough, do you a figure in your head. If its a eye for a eye, then its already done.

Revenge will have gone far enough when every single Hamas coward and their supporters no longer exist. The world will be grateful. And as for the "eye for an eye" nonsense, there will always be at least one who keeps their eyes - the victor, and it won't be a sub-human Hamas piece of shit.

Bess"

Can't we just be equally horrified and equally in opposition to killing innocent people.

To me there's no difference whatever the nationality of the victims.

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By *ensual-dominant-passionMan  over a year ago

sheffield


"The only message am getting from this conflict is ' might is right.

That's the only message you're getting? I'm getting lots of messages. That many sick people think slaughtering and beheading babies is justifiable. That many twisted sub-humans think it's worth celebrating that hundreds of young people at a peace music _estival were massacred without warning. That women were r*ped and pregnant women had unborn foetuses cut from their living bodies is something to be happy about. Those are the messages that I'm seeing.

Palestine needs freeing alright - it, and the world, needs freeing from every single bastard Hamas coward and ALL of their supporters.

Bess

Nope the only message is " might is right"

"My suffering is greater than yours"

" don't dare raise your voice against us"

If you interpret raising you voice for one group of innocents is justifying terror and brutality on another group, thats your choice. When will you think the revenge will have gone far enough, do you a figure in your head. If its a eye for a eye, then its already done.

Revenge will have gone far enough when every single Hamas coward and their supporters no longer exist. The world will be grateful. And as for the "eye for an eye" nonsense, there will always be at least one who keeps their eyes - the victor, and it won't be a sub-human Hamas piece of shit.

Bess

Revenge is one thing… but to commit pure brutality on civilians while claiming they did that to us… what makes you better than them? They have cut off food supplies… water.. electricity… and now they want 1.2 million people to move in 24 hours… where are they meant to go… what about the wounded in hospital where are they meant to go… I’m sorry but your tone sounds like you couldn’t give a damn about those people… just concerned about what happened to one side… this is not Israel defending it self… this has genocide written all over it… and Israel are losing the moral high ground… support and solidarity does not give you the right to break international and humanitarian laws Israel gave warning and is taking over the northern part of Gaza city. Did Hamas warn Israeli civilians about their imminent attack ? No they did not. "

Hamas are branded as a terrorist group… so it Israeli do the same as them and attack the way they are doing… would you agree that they are also a terrorist army?

Dropping letters form the sky telling them to get out… we are about to throw bombs on you… where are they meant to go… how fast can they get out..

You have no clue with a statement like that

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By *otlovefun42Couple  over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"Look at the background to this.

The first kibbutz was created in 1907 in Tel Aviv. Palestine was then part of the Ottoman Empire which lost it during the 1st World War to Britain.

In 1917 the British minister Balfour pledged support for the establishment of a Jewish National Home in Palestine. The British ruled Palestine from 1918 to 1948 when they relinquished control following a UN decision.

At that time Palestine did not exist as a state. The areas of the West Bank and Gazza were administrated by Jordan and Egypt. Israel is registered as a country in the UN. Palestine is not.

So, it is a huge mess in which Hamas, which wants to create an Islamic State, has as its primary aim the annihilation of ALL Jews.

The only solution would appear to be a democratic one, but whilst religions control countries and the minds of fanatics, there is sadly little chance of that happening. "

Good post.

I would add that there has never been a state/country of Palestine. So how can it be occupied if it never existed?

Go back far enough however and the area used to be called Judea (clue in the name) and in those days there were no Muslims anywhere.

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By *ensual-dominant-passionMan  over a year ago

sheffield


"The only message am getting from this conflict is ' might is right.

That's the only message you're getting? I'm getting lots of messages. That many sick people think slaughtering and beheading babies is justifiable. That many twisted sub-humans think it's worth celebrating that hundreds of young people at a peace music _estival were massacred without warning. That women were r*ped and pregnant women had unborn foetuses cut from their living bodies is something to be happy about. Those are the messages that I'm seeing.

Palestine needs freeing alright - it, and the world, needs freeing from every single bastard Hamas coward and ALL of their supporters.

Bess

Nope the only message is " might is right"

"My suffering is greater than yours"

" don't dare raise your voice against us"

If you interpret raising you voice for one group of innocents is justifying terror and brutality on another group, thats your choice. When will you think the revenge will have gone far enough, do you a figure in your head. If its a eye for a eye, then its already done.

Revenge will have gone far enough when every single Hamas coward and their supporters no longer exist. The world will be grateful. And as for the "eye for an eye" nonsense, there will always be at least one who keeps their eyes - the victor, and it won't be a sub-human Hamas piece of shit.

Bess

Can't we just be equally horrified and equally in opposition to killing innocent people.

To me there's no difference whatever the nationality of the victims. "

This is the problem.. it’s disgusting and beyond awful what happened to Israel… but you can’t deny what Israel is doing justification… the Palestinians are paying a heavy price…

50 percent of the Palestinians are small children

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The only message am getting from this conflict is ' might is right.

That's the only message you're getting? I'm getting lots of messages. That many sick people think slaughtering and beheading babies is justifiable. That many twisted sub-humans think it's worth celebrating that hundreds of young people at a peace music _estival were massacred without warning. That women were r*ped and pregnant women had unborn foetuses cut from their living bodies is something to be happy about. Those are the messages that I'm seeing.

Palestine needs freeing alright - it, and the world, needs freeing from every single bastard Hamas coward and ALL of their supporters.

Bess

Nope the only message is " might is right"

"My suffering is greater than yours"

" don't dare raise your voice against us"

If you interpret raising you voice for one group of innocents is justifying terror and brutality on another group, thats your choice. When will you think the revenge will have gone far enough, do you a figure in your head. If its a eye for a eye, then its already done.

Revenge will have gone far enough when every single Hamas coward and their supporters no longer exist. The world will be grateful. And as for the "eye for an eye" nonsense, there will always be at least one who keeps their eyes - the victor, and it won't be a sub-human Hamas piece of shit.

Bess

Hopefully your lust for blood will be quenched soon and you can be at peace.

Are you showing support for terrorism on an open forum?

Bess

No , you said you didn't want a stop to the violence until a hammas had been wiped out. I said hopefully you will be at peace when that happens. Are you looking for a argument for argument sake..?"

That's not what I said at all, stop making up rubbish! What I actually said is in my post that you quoted - everyone can see you're a liar. Stop it.

Bess

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By *uddy laneMan  over a year ago

dudley

I am sure the Palestinian people could walk to France and get a over priced inflatable ride.

But I dought they will because they are not cowards and are fighting for what they believe.

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By *astandFeistyCouple  over a year ago

Bournemouth

I don't think Israel really cares what the UN think.

This is a simple case of 'if you come after mine, I will obliterate your whole family'

Whether that is right or wrong, depends on individual moral compasses.

What this world is lacking today is allowing others autonomy over thought. We don't all have to think the same way, and we're not gonna change each others thinking by debating on a forum.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Look at the background to this.

The first kibbutz was created in 1907 in Tel Aviv. Palestine was then part of the Ottoman Empire which lost it during the 1st World War to Britain.

In 1917 the British minister Balfour pledged support for the establishment of a Jewish National Home in Palestine. The British ruled Palestine from 1918 to 1948 when they relinquished control following a UN decision.

At that time Palestine did not exist as a state. The areas of the West Bank and Gazza were administrated by Jordan and Egypt. Israel is registered as a country in the UN. Palestine is not.

So, it is a huge mess in which Hamas, which wants to create an Islamic State, has as its primary aim the annihilation of ALL Jews.

The only solution would appear to be a democratic one, but whilst religions control countries and the minds of fanatics, there is sadly little chance of that happening.

Good post.

I would add that there has never been a state/country of Palestine. So how can it be occupied if it never existed?

Go back far enough however and the area used to be called Judea (clue in the name) and in those days there were no Muslims anywhere. "

You're quite correct. Muslims are the invaders in that region.

Bess

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I am sure the Palestinian people could walk to France and get a over priced inflatable ride.

But I dought they will because they are not cowards and are fighting for what they believe. "

Not cowards? What else would you call someone who supports the beheading of babies? I can think of many terms, coward would be just one of them.

Bess

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It has been widely reported by independent sources that Hamas operatives are cajoling and threatening "civilians" into staying at home.

Bess

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By *uddy laneMan  over a year ago

dudley


"I am sure the Palestinian people could walk to France and get a over priced inflatable ride.

But I dought they will because they are not cowards and are fighting for what they believe.

Not cowards? What else would you call someone who supports the beheading of babies? I can think of many terms, coward would be just one of them.

Bess"

That is hamas doing that not the palestinian people even israel recognises that with the 24 hour warning.

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By *eroy1000Man  over a year ago

milton keynes

What do people think the Israeli response should be to the atrocities committed against its population which seems to get grimmer by the day? They could call an end to actions now as they have already hit Gaza from the air. They can go in on the ground which would mean heavy loss of life on both sides and could draw in more countries. They can just do nothing and accept the losses.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The only message am getting from this conflict is ' might is right.

That's the only message you're getting? I'm getting lots of messages. That many sick people think slaughtering and beheading babies is justifiable. That many twisted sub-humans think it's worth celebrating that hundreds of young people at a peace music _estival were massacred without warning. That women were r*ped and pregnant women had unborn foetuses cut from their living bodies is something to be happy about. Those are the messages that I'm seeing.

Palestine needs freeing alright - it, and the world, needs freeing from every single bastard Hamas coward and ALL of their supporters.

Bess

Nope the only message is " might is right"

"My suffering is greater than yours"

" don't dare raise your voice against us"

If you interpret raising you voice for one group of innocents is justifying terror and brutality on another group, thats your choice. When will you think the revenge will have gone far enough, do you a figure in your head. If its a eye for a eye, then its already done.

Revenge will have gone far enough when every single Hamas coward and their supporters no longer exist. The world will be grateful. And as for the "eye for an eye" nonsense, there will always be at least one who keeps their eyes - the victor, and it won't be a sub-human Hamas piece of shit.

Bess

Revenge is one thing… but to commit pure brutality on civilians while claiming they did that to us… what makes you better than them? They have cut off food supplies… water.. electricity… and now they want 1.2 million people to move in 24 hours… where are they meant to go… what about the wounded in hospital where are they meant to go… I’m sorry but your tone sounds like you couldn’t give a damn about those people… just concerned about what happened to one side… this is not Israel defending it self… this has genocide written all over it… and Israel are losing the moral high ground… support and solidarity does not give you the right to break international and humanitarian laws Israel gave warning and is taking over the northern part of Gaza city. Did Hamas warn Israeli civilians about their imminent attack ? No they did not.

Hamas are branded as a terrorist group… so it Israeli do the same as them and attack the way they are doing… would you agree that they are also a terrorist army?

Dropping letters form the sky telling them to get out… we are about to throw bombs on you… where are they meant to go… how fast can they get out..

You have no clue with a statement like that"

Hamas took hostages. Israel is taking half a city hostage. One you celebrate the other you are condeming.

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By *ensual-dominant-passionMan  over a year ago

sheffield


"I am sure the Palestinian people could walk to France and get a over priced inflatable ride.

But I dought they will because they are not cowards and are fighting for what they believe.

Not cowards? What else would you call someone who supports the beheading of babies? I can think of many terms, coward would be just one of them.

Bess"

Israel have committed atrocities far worse… meaning if you was to look at the numbers in comparison… the Palestinians have suffered far worse than people in Israel….

Stop playing the “well look what they did” you call hamas terrorists because they targeted civilians… you must be an absolute idiot if you think Israel is trying to avoid civilians… they just want to level the place.. to them the Palestinian civilians are like bugs… and they are out to exterminate them

If me side is barbaric then other side is definitely barbaric… because the result is the same… innocents are dying

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By *ensual-dominant-passionMan  over a year ago

sheffield


"What do people think the Israeli response should be to the atrocities committed against its population which seems to get grimmer by the day? They could call an end to actions now as they have already hit Gaza from the air. They can go in on the ground which would mean heavy loss of life on both sides and could draw in more countries. They can just do nothing and accept the losses."

Well they are doing what they want to… they want to level Gaza from the air.. and then just easily go in and clean up what’s left of it

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By *ensual-dominant-passionMan  over a year ago

sheffield


"The only message am getting from this conflict is ' might is right.

That's the only message you're getting? I'm getting lots of messages. That many sick people think slaughtering and beheading babies is justifiable. That many twisted sub-humans think it's worth celebrating that hundreds of young people at a peace music _estival were massacred without warning. That women were r*ped and pregnant women had unborn foetuses cut from their living bodies is something to be happy about. Those are the messages that I'm seeing.

Palestine needs freeing alright - it, and the world, needs freeing from every single bastard Hamas coward and ALL of their supporters.

Bess

Nope the only message is " might is right"

"My suffering is greater than yours"

" don't dare raise your voice against us"

If you interpret raising you voice for one group of innocents is justifying terror and brutality on another group, thats your choice. When will you think the revenge will have gone far enough, do you a figure in your head. If its a eye for a eye, then its already done.

Revenge will have gone far enough when every single Hamas coward and their supporters no longer exist. The world will be grateful. And as for the "eye for an eye" nonsense, there will always be at least one who keeps their eyes - the victor, and it won't be a sub-human Hamas piece of shit.

Bess

Revenge is one thing… but to commit pure brutality on civilians while claiming they did that to us… what makes you better than them? They have cut off food supplies… water.. electricity… and now they want 1.2 million people to move in 24 hours… where are they meant to go… what about the wounded in hospital where are they meant to go… I’m sorry but your tone sounds like you couldn’t give a damn about those people… just concerned about what happened to one side… this is not Israel defending it self… this has genocide written all over it… and Israel are losing the moral high ground… support and solidarity does not give you the right to break international and humanitarian laws Israel gave warning and is taking over the northern part of Gaza city. Did Hamas warn Israeli civilians about their imminent attack ? No they did not.

Hamas are branded as a terrorist group… so it Israeli do the same as them and attack the way they are doing… would you agree that they are also a terrorist army?

Dropping letters form the sky telling them to get out… we are about to throw bombs on you… where are they meant to go… how fast can they get out..

You have no clue with a statement like that Hamas took hostages. Israel is taking half a city hostage. One you celebrate the other you are condeming."

Israel has taken the whole of Gaza as a hostage… blocking supplies… water… electricity… blocking all

Exits so they can’t leave.. they want them to go to Egypt (propaganda) then they bombed the exit to the Egypt… you can’t make this up

Hamas are terrorists… barbaric… but what gets me is people in solidarity with Israel.. be in solidarity with the people… not the right wing government of Israel who has taken this as green light to commit genocide and all mainly for their own political reasons

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By *ittlesub4uWoman  over a year ago

Manchester


"What do people think the Israeli response should be to the atrocities committed against its population which seems to get grimmer by the day? They could call an end to actions now as they have already hit Gaza from the air. They can go in on the ground which would mean heavy loss of life on both sides and could draw in more countries. They can just do nothing and accept the losses."

Would you say the same of Haitian resistance against the French colonialists who tried to ensl@ve them? How about of the ANC’s resistance of South African apartheid? And just look at the celebration of Ukrainian violent resistance by mainstream media.

Revolution and resistance are always violent because their oppressors force them into doing it. There have been peaceful and cooperative efforts from Palestinians since day one of Nakba and their government continue to cooperate and adhere to international law, whilst the Israeli state commits war crimes with Western support in full force.

If a member of my family was murdered, it would not give me license to destroy the whole country where the murderer came from but essentially, that’s what you’re saying.

No, there is no justification for genocide and never will be.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The only message am getting from this conflict is ' might is right.

That's the only message you're getting? I'm getting lots of messages. That many sick people think slaughtering and beheading babies is justifiable. That many twisted sub-humans think it's worth celebrating that hundreds of young people at a peace music _estival were massacred without warning. That women were r*ped and pregnant women had unborn foetuses cut from their living bodies is something to be happy about. Those are the messages that I'm seeing.

Palestine needs freeing alright - it, and the world, needs freeing from every single bastard Hamas coward and ALL of their supporters.

Bess

Nope the only message is " might is right"

"My suffering is greater than yours"

" don't dare raise your voice against us"

If you interpret raising you voice for one group of innocents is justifying terror and brutality on another group, thats your choice. When will you think the revenge will have gone far enough, do you a figure in your head. If its a eye for a eye, then its already done.

Revenge will have gone far enough when every single Hamas coward and their supporters no longer exist. The world will be grateful. And as for the "eye for an eye" nonsense, there will always be at least one who keeps their eyes - the victor, and it won't be a sub-human Hamas piece of shit.

Bess

Revenge is one thing… but to commit pure brutality on civilians while claiming they did that to us… what makes you better than them? They have cut off food supplies… water.. electricity… and now they want 1.2 million people to move in 24 hours… where are they meant to go… what about the wounded in hospital where are they meant to go… I’m sorry but your tone sounds like you couldn’t give a damn about those people… just concerned about what happened to one side… this is not Israel defending it self… this has genocide written all over it… and Israel are losing the moral high ground… support and solidarity does not give you the right to break international and humanitarian laws Israel gave warning and is taking over the northern part of Gaza city. Did Hamas warn Israeli civilians about their imminent attack ? No they did not.

Hamas are branded as a terrorist group… so it Israeli do the same as them and attack the way they are doing… would you agree that they are also a terrorist army?

Dropping letters form the sky telling them to get out… we are about to throw bombs on you… where are they meant to go… how fast can they get out..

You have no clue with a statement like that Hamas took hostages. Israel is taking half a city hostage. One you celebrate the other you are condeming.

Israel has taken the whole of Gaza as a hostage… blocking supplies… water… electricity… blocking all

Exits so they can’t leave.. they want them to go to Egypt (propaganda) then they bombed the exit to the Egypt… you can’t make this up

Hamas are terrorists… barbaric… but what gets me is people in solidarity with Israel.. be in solidarity with the people… not the right wing government of Israel who has taken this as green light to commit genocide and all mainly for their own political reasons

"

Totally agree, gazza will be flattened then rebuilt for Israeli settlements. Hamas need to be wiped out like every other terrorist cell, but not at the cost of innocent civilians. The "War on terror" holds no boundaries.

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By *eroy1000Man  over a year ago

milton keynes


"What do people think the Israeli response should be to the atrocities committed against its population which seems to get grimmer by the day? They could call an end to actions now as they have already hit Gaza from the air. They can go in on the ground which would mean heavy loss of life on both sides and could draw in more countries. They can just do nothing and accept the losses.

Well they are doing what they want to… they want to level Gaza from the air.. and then just easily go in and clean up what’s left of it "

I was asking what option people here think Israel should take or indeed another option I have not listed. As opposed to actual events

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By *eroy1000Man  over a year ago

milton keynes


"What do people think the Israeli response should be to the atrocities committed against its population which seems to get grimmer by the day? They could call an end to actions now as they have already hit Gaza from the air. They can go in on the ground which would mean heavy loss of life on both sides and could draw in more countries. They can just do nothing and accept the losses.

Would you say the same of Haitian resistance against the French colonialists who tried to ensl@ve them? How about of the ANC’s resistance of South African apartheid? And just look at the celebration of Ukrainian violent resistance by mainstream media.

Revolution and resistance are always violent because their oppressors force them into doing it. There have been peaceful and cooperative efforts from Palestinians since day one of Nakba and their government continue to cooperate and adhere to international law, whilst the Israeli state commits war crimes with Western support in full force.

If a member of my family was murdered, it would not give me license to destroy the whole country where the murderer came from but essentially, that’s what you’re saying.

No, there is no justification for genocide and never will be."

All I'm asking is what people think Israel should do from the options listed or an alternative option after what has happened

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I am sure the Palestinian people could walk to France and get a over priced inflatable ride.

But I dought they will because they are not cowards and are fighting for what they believe.

Not cowards? What else would you call someone who supports the beheading of babies? I can think of many terms, coward would be just one of them.

Bess

Israel have committed atrocities far worse… meaning if you was to look at the numbers in comparison… the Palestinians have suffered far worse than people in Israel….

Stop playing the “well look what they did” you call hamas terrorists because they targeted civilians… you must be an absolute idiot if you think Israel is trying to avoid civilians… they just want to level the place.. to them the Palestinian civilians are like bugs… and they are out to exterminate them

If me side is barbaric then other side is definitely barbaric… because the result is the same… innocents are dying "

Your first paragraph starts "Israel have committed atrocities far worse…" and your second paragraph starts with "Stop playing the “well look what they did”"

You really are making yourself look foolish.

Bess

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

You only have to look at the news reports from all over the world, including - shamefully, Britain - muslims screeching "kill the jews", "gas the jews", "destroy Israel". These are not Hamas militant cowards saying this - it's many of those "innocent civilians" you're bleating about. Hamas are not a cohesive military unit, they are "civilians" who live in homes in Gaza. Who the fuck do you think feeds them after they've had their fun slaughtering babies? Who do you think washes the slaughtered babies' blood from their clothes? Or the pregnant women's blood from their trousers? Who do you think washes the goat shit off their cocks when they've finished fucking their favourite goats? Who voted in Hamas in 2006? Yup, to all the above, it was those "innocent civilians".

Bess

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The only message am getting from this conflict is ' might is right.

That's the only message you're getting? I'm getting lots of messages. That many sick people think slaughtering and beheading babies is justifiable. That many twisted sub-humans think it's worth celebrating that hundreds of young people at a peace music _estival were massacred without warning. That women were r*ped and pregnant women had unborn foetuses cut from their living bodies is something to be happy about. Those are the messages that I'm seeing.

Palestine needs freeing alright - it, and the world, needs freeing from every single bastard Hamas coward and ALL of their supporters.

Bess

Nope the only message is " might is right"

"My suffering is greater than yours"

" don't dare raise your voice against us"

If you interpret raising you voice for one group of innocents is justifying terror and brutality on another group, thats your choice. When will you think the revenge will have gone far enough, do you a figure in your head. If its a eye for a eye, then its already done.

Revenge will have gone far enough when every single Hamas coward and their supporters no longer exist. The world will be grateful. And as for the "eye for an eye" nonsense, there will always be at least one who keeps their eyes - the victor, and it won't be a sub-human Hamas piece of shit.

Bess

Hopefully your lust for blood will be quenched soon and you can be at peace.

Are you showing support for terrorism on an open forum?

Bess

No , you said you didn't want a stop to the violence until a hammas had been wiped out. I said hopefully you will be at peace when that happens. Are you looking for a argument for argument sake..?

That's not what I said at all, stop making up rubbish! What I actually said is in my post that you quoted - everyone can see you're a liar. Stop it.

Bess"

Interesting tactic, say something, then when the other person says I hope what you said comes true.

Get emotional and call the other person a liar and to shut up.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The only message am getting from this conflict is ' might is right.

That's the only message you're getting? I'm getting lots of messages. That many sick people think slaughtering and beheading babies is justifiable. That many twisted sub-humans think it's worth celebrating that hundreds of young people at a peace music _estival were massacred without warning. That women were r*ped and pregnant women had unborn foetuses cut from their living bodies is something to be happy about. Those are the messages that I'm seeing.

Palestine needs freeing alright - it, and the world, needs freeing from every single bastard Hamas coward and ALL of their supporters.

Bess

Nope the only message is " might is right"

"My suffering is greater than yours"

" don't dare raise your voice against us"

If you interpret raising you voice for one group of innocents is justifying terror and brutality on another group, thats your choice. When will you think the revenge will have gone far enough, do you a figure in your head. If its a eye for a eye, then its already done.

Revenge will have gone far enough when every single Hamas coward and their supporters no longer exist. The world will be grateful. And as for the "eye for an eye" nonsense, there will always be at least one who keeps their eyes - the victor, and it won't be a sub-human Hamas piece of shit.

Bess

Hopefully your lust for blood will be quenched soon and you can be at peace.

Are you showing support for terrorism on an open forum?

Bess

No , you said you didn't want a stop to the violence until a hammas had been wiped out. I said hopefully you will be at peace when that happens. Are you looking for a argument for argument sake..?

That's not what I said at all, stop making up rubbish! What I actually said is in my post that you quoted - everyone can see you're a liar. Stop it.

Bess

Interesting tactic, say something, then when the other person says I hope what you said comes true.

Get emotional and call the other person a liar and to shut up."

You're just talking blithering rubbish now. Please point to where I said the following, which you say I said "said you didn't want a stop to the violence until a hammas had been wiped out."

You can't, can you? Because you twisted what I said, which is lying. You are a liar. I have a great idea for you, why not travel to Gaza and show your support of terrorism directly? They love cross-dressing bisexual men there - you would provide seconds of entertainment for them as you plummet off a building blindfolded with your hands and feet tied. This is what they do, and this is what you're supporting.

Bess

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

People who get emotional and start personal attacks really should stay of political forums.

Its not good for their health.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The only message am getting from this conflict is ' might is right.

That's the only message you're getting? I'm getting lots of messages. That many sick people think slaughtering and beheading babies is justifiable. That many twisted sub-humans think it's worth celebrating that hundreds of young people at a peace music _estival were massacred without warning. That women were r*ped and pregnant women had unborn foetuses cut from their living bodies is something to be happy about. Those are the messages that I'm seeing.

Palestine needs freeing alright - it, and the world, needs freeing from every single bastard Hamas coward and ALL of their supporters.

Bess

Nope the only message is " might is right"

"My suffering is greater than yours"

" don't dare raise your voice against us"

If you interpret raising you voice for one group of innocents is justifying terror and brutality on another group, thats your choice. When will you think the revenge will have gone far enough, do you a figure in your head. If its a eye for a eye, then its already done.

Revenge will have gone far enough when every single Hamas coward and their supporters no longer exist. The world will be grateful. And as for the "eye for an eye" nonsense, there will always be at least one who keeps their eyes - the victor, and it won't be a sub-human Hamas piece of shit.

Bess

Hopefully your lust for blood will be quenched soon and you can be at peace.

Are you showing support for terrorism on an open forum?

Bess

No , you said you didn't want a stop to the violence until a hammas had been wiped out. I said hopefully you will be at peace when that happens. Are you looking for a argument for argument sake..?

That's not what I said at all, stop making up rubbish! What I actually said is in my post that you quoted - everyone can see you're a liar. Stop it.

Bess

Interesting tactic, say something, then when the other person says I hope what you said comes true.

Get emotional and call the other person a liar and to shut up.

You're just talking blithering rubbish now. Please point to where I said the following, which you say I said "said you didn't want a stop to the violence until a hammas had been wiped out."

You can't, can you? Because you twisted what I said, which is lying. You are a liar. I have a great idea for you, why not travel to Gaza and show your support of terrorism directly? They love cross-dressing bisexual men there - you would provide seconds of entertainment for them as you plummet off a building blindfolded with your hands and feet tied. This is what they do, and this is what you're supporting.

Bess"

You said qoute

" Revenge will have gone far enough when every single Hamas coward and their supporters no longer exist. The world will be grateful."

I replied quote

" you said you didn't want a stop to the violence until a hammas had been wiped out."

Although not a word for word quote, what's the difference in terms of meaning..?

I didn't know Israel were bombing Gaza for them to be more accepting of LBGT rights. Maybe I should get on board with it then.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

All the innocent people that have been murdered by a terrorist group and a STATE, this thread is depressing af.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The only message am getting from this conflict is ' might is right.

That's the only message you're getting? I'm getting lots of messages. That many sick people think slaughtering and beheading babies is justifiable. That many twisted sub-humans think it's worth celebrating that hundreds of young people at a peace music _estival were massacred without warning. That women were r*ped and pregnant women had unborn foetuses cut from their living bodies is something to be happy about. Those are the messages that I'm seeing.

Palestine needs freeing alright - it, and the world, needs freeing from every single bastard Hamas coward and ALL of their supporters.

Bess

Nope the only message is " might is right"

"My suffering is greater than yours"

" don't dare raise your voice against us"

If you interpret raising you voice for one group of innocents is justifying terror and brutality on another group, thats your choice. When will you think the revenge will have gone far enough, do you a figure in your head. If its a eye for a eye, then its already done.

Revenge will have gone far enough when every single Hamas coward and their supporters no longer exist. The world will be grateful. And as for the "eye for an eye" nonsense, there will always be at least one who keeps their eyes - the victor, and it won't be a sub-human Hamas piece of shit.

Bess

Hopefully your lust for blood will be quenched soon and you can be at peace.

Are you showing support for terrorism on an open forum?

Bess

No , you said you didn't want a stop to the violence until a hammas had been wiped out. I said hopefully you will be at peace when that happens. Are you looking for a argument for argument sake..?

That's not what I said at all, stop making up rubbish! What I actually said is in my post that you quoted - everyone can see you're a liar. Stop it.

Bess

Interesting tactic, say something, then when the other person says I hope what you said comes true.

Get emotional and call the other person a liar and to shut up.

You're just talking blithering rubbish now. Please point to where I said the following, which you say I said "said you didn't want a stop to the violence until a hammas had been wiped out."

You can't, can you? Because you twisted what I said, which is lying. You are a liar. I have a great idea for you, why not travel to Gaza and show your support of terrorism directly? They love cross-dressing bisexual men there - you would provide seconds of entertainment for them as you plummet off a building blindfolded with your hands and feet tied. This is what they do, and this is what you're supporting.

Bess

You said qoute

" Revenge will have gone far enough when every single Hamas coward and their supporters no longer exist. The world will be grateful."

I replied quote

" you said you didn't want a stop to the violence until a hammas had been wiped out."

Although not a word for word quote, what's the difference in terms of meaning..?

I didn't know Israel were bombing Gaza for them to be more accepting of LBGT rights. Maybe I should get on board with it then.

"

Your posts have been reported.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The only message am getting from this conflict is ' might is right.

That's the only message you're getting? I'm getting lots of messages. That many sick people think slaughtering and beheading babies is justifiable. That many twisted sub-humans think it's worth celebrating that hundreds of young people at a peace music _estival were massacred without warning. That women were r*ped and pregnant women had unborn foetuses cut from their living bodies is something to be happy about. Those are the messages that I'm seeing.

Palestine needs freeing alright - it, and the world, needs freeing from every single bastard Hamas coward and ALL of their supporters.

Bess

Nope the only message is " might is right"

"My suffering is greater than yours"

" don't dare raise your voice against us"

If you interpret raising you voice for one group of innocents is justifying terror and brutality on another group, thats your choice. When will you think the revenge will have gone far enough, do you a figure in your head. If its a eye for a eye, then its already done.

Revenge will have gone far enough when every single Hamas coward and their supporters no longer exist. The world will be grateful. And as for the "eye for an eye" nonsense, there will always be at least one who keeps their eyes - the victor, and it won't be a sub-human Hamas piece of shit.

Bess

Hopefully your lust for blood will be quenched soon and you can be at peace.

Are you showing support for terrorism on an open forum?

Bess

No , you said you didn't want a stop to the violence until a hammas had been wiped out. I said hopefully you will be at peace when that happens. Are you looking for a argument for argument sake..?

That's not what I said at all, stop making up rubbish! What I actually said is in my post that you quoted - everyone can see you're a liar. Stop it.

Bess

Interesting tactic, say something, then when the other person says I hope what you said comes true.

Get emotional and call the other person a liar and to shut up.

You're just talking blithering rubbish now. Please point to where I said the following, which you say I said "said you didn't want a stop to the violence until a hammas had been wiped out."

You can't, can you? Because you twisted what I said, which is lying. You are a liar. I have a great idea for you, why not travel to Gaza and show your support of terrorism directly? They love cross-dressing bisexual men there - you would provide seconds of entertainment for them as you plummet off a building blindfolded with your hands and feet tied. This is what they do, and this is what you're supporting.

Bess

You said qoute

" Revenge will have gone far enough when every single Hamas coward and their supporters no longer exist. The world will be grateful."

I replied quote

" you said you didn't want a stop to the violence until a hammas had been wiped out."

Although not a word for word quote, what's the difference in terms of meaning..?

I didn't know Israel were bombing Gaza for them to be more accepting of LBGT rights. Maybe I should get on board with it then.

Your posts have been reported. "

Poor form. I should have reported you. It wasn’t me who got personal by calling the other a liar, tell the other to shut up and attacking the others sexuality.

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"The only message am getting from this conflict is ' might is right.

That's the only message you're getting? I'm getting lots of messages. That many sick people think slaughtering and beheading babies is justifiable. That many twisted sub-humans think it's worth celebrating that hundreds of young people at a peace music _estival were massacred without warning. That women were r*ped and pregnant women had unborn foetuses cut from their living bodies is something to be happy about. Those are the messages that I'm seeing.

Palestine needs freeing alright - it, and the world, needs freeing from every single bastard Hamas coward and ALL of their supporters.

Bess

Nope the only message is " might is right"

"My suffering is greater than yours"

" don't dare raise your voice against us"

If you interpret raising you voice for one group of innocents is justifying terror and brutality on another group, thats your choice. When will you think the revenge will have gone far enough, do you a figure in your head. If its a eye for a eye, then its already done.

Revenge will have gone far enough when every single Hamas coward and their supporters no longer exist. The world will be grateful. And as for the "eye for an eye" nonsense, there will always be at least one who keeps their eyes - the victor, and it won't be a sub-human Hamas piece of shit.

Bess

Revenge is one thing… but to commit pure brutality on civilians while claiming they did that to us… what makes you better than them? They have cut off food supplies… water.. electricity… and now they want 1.2 million people to move in 24 hours… where are they meant to go… what about the wounded in hospital where are they meant to go… I’m sorry but your tone sounds like you couldn’t give a damn about those people… just concerned about what happened to one side… this is not Israel defending it self… this has genocide written all over it… and Israel are losing the moral high ground… support and solidarity does not give you the right to break international and humanitarian laws Israel gave warning and is taking over the northern part of Gaza city. Did Hamas warn Israeli civilians about their imminent attack ? No they did not.

Hamas are branded as a terrorist group… so it Israeli do the same as them and attack the way they are doing… would you agree that they are also a terrorist army?

Dropping letters form the sky telling them to get out… we are about to throw bombs on you… where are they meant to go… how fast can they get out..

You have no clue with a statement like that"

I was trying to think of a British comparison…. It a bit like asking the entire populations of Newcastle and Sunderland to move down to Darlington….

They know full well it can’t happen… the UN have said what they are asking is almost impossible… and even the United States have said that would be very tough…

One set of war crimes committed by one side doesn’t give the other side a “get out of jail free” card to commit another…..

It’s a collective punishment…..

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By *irldnCouple  over a year ago

Brighton

I posted this in the Israel 2 thread but think it could do with being posted in here...

I think we should look more at this “all the Palestinians are complicit in the actions of Hamas because they knew they were living amongst them”.

As an analogy lets loom at Northern Ireland in the 1970/80s.

Were ALL the Catholic Northern Irish complicit with the IRA? Were all the Protestant Northern Irish complicit with the UDF?

These terrorist organisations are one step up from organised crime. Much of their funding comes from the same activity that organised crime groups operate inc kid-napping, extortion, protection rackets, drug smuggling/dealing, etc etc.

If you were a Catholic and knew of people in the IRA would you speak up? Would you grass on them? Or would you keep your mouth shut to protect the lives of your children and family? If the IRA came to you and told you they wanted to hide one of theirs in your house for a bit, or store some equipment. Would you say no? If the IRA had scored a victory would you support it and celebrate it while they were watching and if you didn’t really support it, keep quiet about it? Would you be wary of your neighbours in case they were full on supporters or even involved with the IRA?

Now transpose that to Gaza and hand on heart tell me how you would act?

Without doubt there are “normal” Palestinians who support Hamas (we have seen footage of celebrations) but there will also be those who don’t but are too scared to speak out. I don’t blame them. I would be too!

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