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By *oo hot OP   Couple  over a year ago

North West

Not exactly politics but why does this guy get piled on so much by the Press?

My view is that as a very young boy he was witness to the worst excesses of Press intrusion on his Mother’s life. He then had to deal with her death and the invasive Press intrusion and walk down Pall Mall behind her coffin. Then he was involved in combat operations in Afghanistan and more recently has had his own Press intrusion into his own life, his wife snd very recently the trawling over the Bashir/Diana interview.

It is astonishing to me that high profile celebs like Piers Morgan and others, as well as the right wing Press pile on to Harry questioning his right to have mental health issues.

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By *uliaChrisCouple  over a year ago

westerham

Because he didn’t have to do much of any of those things. He could have quietly slunk off years ago and had a very privileged quiet life.

Instead he invades his own privacy at least twice a week giving gormless interviews.

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By *ockdownerMan  over a year ago

Preston


"Not exactly politics but why does this guy get piled on so much by the Press?

My view is that as a very young boy he was witness to the worst excesses of Press intrusion on his Mother’s life. He then had to deal with her death and the invasive Press intrusion and walk down Pall Mall behind her coffin. Then he was involved in combat operations in Afghanistan and more recently has had his own Press intrusion into his own life, his wife snd very recently the trawling over the Bashir/Diana interview.

It is astonishing to me that high profile celebs like Piers Morgan and others, as well as the right wing Press pile on to Harry questioning his right to have mental health issues. "

Maybe because he's a hypocritical twat?

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By *eeleyWoman  over a year ago

Dudley


"Because he didn’t have to do much of any of those things. He could have quietly slunk off years ago and had a very privileged quiet life.

Instead he invades his own privacy at least twice a week giving gormless interviews. "

I agree with the interview part but the rest is nonsense, he could never have slunk off, he was born into a position where he was always going to be in the limelight.

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By *obka3Couple  over a year ago

bournemouth

I dont envy the life they lead and to lose their mum in that way was awful and to have to have the world watch you mourn must have been very hard, but harry is making himself look bad, I'm sure in time he will see he has made a mistake seeking all this publicity.

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By *ellhungvweMan  over a year ago

Cheltenham


"Because he didn’t have to do much of any of those things. He could have quietly slunk off years ago and had a very privileged quiet life.

Instead he invades his own privacy at least twice a week giving gormless interviews.

I agree with the interview part but the rest is nonsense, he could never have slunk off, he was born into a position where he was always going to be in the limelight.

"

He does not have to be so public. He is in exactly the same position as Edward (son of a monarch) and no one cares about him. He could have a low profile and be overlooked if he chose to.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool

Because he married a person of colour and the royal family are bastions of inclusivity?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Basically the press / media toady up to the Royal family or at least the Queen and those in the direct line of succession and there direct family members.

Harry is essentially peripheral so he is fair game to bash so its seen as some sort of impartiality and not just grovelling condescension to the whole establishment.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Because he didn’t have to do much of any of those things. He could have quietly slunk off years ago and had a very privileged quiet life.

Instead he invades his own privacy at least twice a week giving gormless interviews.

I agree with the interview part but the rest is nonsense, he could never have slunk off, he was born into a position where he was always going to be in the limelight.

He does not have to be so public. He is in exactly the same position as Edward (son of a monarch) and no one cares about him. He could have a low profile and be overlooked if he chose to."

Who the fuck gave a shit about Edward though?? Harry is just choosing how/when he is in the press, he will always be in the public eye/interest, regardless

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By *wisted999Man  over a year ago

North Bucks

All through his life he’s had cruel snipes and innuendos about him. I don’t blame him for bailing out.

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By *ovebjsMan  over a year ago

Bristol

He could have left home anytime he wanted but then he would have had to work for a living like everyone else

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By *oo hot OP   Couple  over a year ago

North West


"He could have left home anytime he wanted but then he would have had to work for a living like everyone else "

Like serving in the armed forces and being in combat?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Not exactly politics but why does this guy get piled on so much by the Press?

My view is that as a very young boy he was witness to the worst excesses of Press intrusion on his Mother’s life. He then had to deal with her death and the invasive Press intrusion and walk down Pall Mall behind her coffin. Then he was involved in combat operations in Afghanistan and more recently has had his own Press intrusion into his own life, his wife snd very recently the trawling over the Bashir/Diana interview.

It is astonishing to me that high profile celebs like Piers Morgan and others, as well as the right wing Press pile on to Harry questioning his right to have mental health issues. "

It’s because he refuses to play the game the tabloid press asks most celebrities to play, that is you comply, let them intrude in your life, grant them exclusives, or they’ll continue to try and denigrate you.

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By *uliaChrisCouple  over a year ago

westerham


"He could have left home anytime he wanted but then he would have had to work for a living like everyone else

Like serving in the armed forces and being in combat?"

He dines out on that. I'm sure he wasn't storming enemy bunkers and he was certainly never mentioned in dispatches. Weak sauce.

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By *ovebjsMan  over a year ago

Bristol


"He could have left home anytime he wanted but then he would have had to work for a living like everyone else

Like serving in the armed forces and being in combat?"

Combat ? Yea right behind everyone else who was there at the sharp end

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By *eeleyWoman  over a year ago

Dudley

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"He could have left home anytime he wanted but then he would have had to work for a living like everyone else

Like serving in the armed forces and being in combat?"

What while being protected by a unit of SBS and playing videogames in a bunker.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"He could have left home anytime he wanted but then he would have had to work for a living like everyone else

Like serving in the armed forces and being in combat?

What while being protected by a unit of SBS and playing videogames in a bunker.

"

Oh while being allowed to do Officer training while not even having the correct amount of A levels in the first place...

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By *obka3Couple  over a year ago

bournemouth


"He could have left home anytime he wanted but then he would have had to work for a living like everyone else

Like serving in the armed forces and being in combat?

What while being protected by a unit of SBS and playing videogames in a bunker.

"

Can you provide proof of that ? While he has gone a bit OTT, it's very easy for keyboard warriors to slag off his time in a war zone.

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By *oxychick35Couple  over a year ago

thornaby


"He could have left home anytime he wanted but then he would have had to work for a living like everyone else

Like serving in the armed forces and being in combat?

What while being protected by a unit of SBS and playing videogames in a bunker.

"

hats of to him going over there but to think he was ever a chance of him being in danger is very silly

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By *oo hot OP   Couple  over a year ago

North West

This guy has had more to deal with in his relatively short life than any of us would expect - even in two, or three full lifetimes.

Considering just what happened to his Mum, just maybe he needs to be cut a little slack.

I have met plenty of people in my life who gobbed off and made unnecessary waves, but in the fullness of time, and without exception there were underlying issues.

This guy needs help in my opinion.

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By *oo hot OP   Couple  over a year ago

North West


"He could have left home anytime he wanted but then he would have had to work for a living like everyone else

Like serving in the armed forces and being in combat?

What while being protected by a unit of SBS and playing videogames in a bunker.

hats of to him going over there but to think he was ever a chance of him being in danger is very silly "

He was a helicopter pilot. Helicopters are unstable flying machines at the best of times and he was deployed in active theatres of military operations in Afghanistan. Seriously, you are mistaken. Flying a helicopter by default comes with risk. Flying a military helicopter in a combat zone exacerbates the risk by some considerable degree.

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By *uliaChrisCouple  over a year ago

westerham


"He could have left home anytime he wanted but then he would have had to work for a living like everyone else

Like serving in the armed forces and being in combat?

What while being protected by a unit of SBS and playing videogames in a bunker.

hats of to him going over there but to think he was ever a chance of him being in danger is very silly

He was a helicopter pilot. Helicopters are unstable flying machines at the best of times and he was deployed in active theatres of military operations in Afghanistan. Seriously, you are mistaken. Flying a helicopter by default comes with risk. Flying a military helicopter in a combat zone exacerbates the risk by some considerable degree."

No, he was a co pilot gunner, very different. No Apaches have been shot down in Afghanistan, the Taliban don’t have the weapons for that,

If he’d been sent out on patrol in the mobile coffin Land Rovers, then that would be hats off to him. He wasn’t.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

For my 2pence worth yes he's had a rotten childhood with thw shit his mum put up with and how she was killed.

I personally think though that meghan has been a big fucking millstone round his neck and dragged him into more shit than he can handle

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By *ewfie02Couple  over a year ago

Ayrshire

Because he was the cuckoo in the nest

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Because he was the cuckoo in the nest "

Eh?

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By *oxychick35Couple  over a year ago

thornaby


"This guy has had more to deal with in his relatively short life than any of us would expect - even in two, or three full lifetimes.

Considering just what happened to his Mum, just maybe he needs to be cut a little slack.

I have met plenty of people in my life who gobbed off and made unnecessary waves, but in the fullness of time, and without exception there were underlying issues.

This guy needs help in my opinion. "

more to deal with in his lifetime you maybe have t had much to deal with mate but I have trust me he couldn’t deal with what iv been through and he’s done it with plenty of help compared to me

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By *eeleyWoman  over a year ago

Dudley


"This guy has had more to deal with in his relatively short life than any of us would expect - even in two, or three full lifetimes.

Considering just what happened to his Mum, just maybe he needs to be cut a little slack.

I have met plenty of people in my life who gobbed off and made unnecessary waves, but in the fullness of time, and without exception there were underlying issues.

This guy needs help in my opinion. more to deal with in his lifetime you maybe have t had much to deal with mate but I have trust me he couldn’t deal with what iv been through and he’s done it with plenty of help compared to me "

It isn't a competition.

Regardless of whether he's royal or not, he's still just a man, he didn't choose his family.

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By *laytimenowMan  over a year ago

Essex


"This guy has had more to deal with in his relatively short life than any of us would expect - even in two, or three full lifetimes.

Considering just what happened to his Mum, just maybe he needs to be cut a little slack.

I have met plenty of people in my life who gobbed off and made unnecessary waves, but in the fullness of time, and without exception there were underlying issues.

This guy needs help in my opinion. more to deal with in his lifetime you maybe have t had much to deal with mate but I have trust me he couldn’t deal with what iv been through and he’s done it with plenty of help compared to me

It isn't a competition.

Regardless of whether he's royal or not, he's still just a man, he didn't choose his family. "

Well said .

None of us have a choice of what life we are born into .

We just get to try & enjoy it the best way we can

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By *oo hot OP   Couple  over a year ago

North West


"He could have left home anytime he wanted but then he would have had to work for a living like everyone else

Like serving in the armed forces and being in combat?

What while being protected by a unit of SBS and playing videogames in a bunker.

hats of to him going over there but to think he was ever a chance of him being in danger is very silly

He was a helicopter pilot. Helicopters are unstable flying machines at the best of times and he was deployed in active theatres of military operations in Afghanistan. Seriously, you are mistaken. Flying a helicopter by default comes with risk. Flying a military helicopter in a combat zone exacerbates the risk by some considerable degree.

No, he was a co pilot gunner, very different. No Apaches have been shot down in Afghanistan, the Taliban don’t have the weapons for that,

If he’d been sent out on patrol in the mobile coffin Land Rovers, then that would be hats off to him. He wasn’t."

Helicopters are naturally unstable and have very narrow flight envelope. By default, they are trying to shake themselves to pieces and are inherently unstable. They crash. Thirteen Apache helicopters were lost in Afghanistan. It is not just about being shot down it is the fast low-level tactical flying that massively increases the chances of a freak incident placing the aircraft outside of its operational envelope.

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By *oxychick35Couple  over a year ago

thornaby


"This guy has had more to deal with in his relatively short life than any of us would expect - even in two, or three full lifetimes.

Considering just what happened to his Mum, just maybe he needs to be cut a little slack.

I have met plenty of people in my life who gobbed off and made unnecessary waves, but in the fullness of time, and without exception there were underlying issues.

This guy needs help in my opinion. more to deal with in his lifetime you maybe have t had much to deal with mate but I have trust me he couldn’t deal with what iv been through and he’s done it with plenty of help compared to me

It isn't a competition.

Regardless of whether he's royal or not, he's still just a man, he didn't choose his family. "

you know what no one gets to choose like the guy says we crack on

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By *uliaChrisCouple  over a year ago

westerham


"He could have left home anytime he wanted but then he would have had to work for a living like everyone else

Like serving in the armed forces and being in combat?

What while being protected by a unit of SBS and playing videogames in a bunker.

hats of to him going over there but to think he was ever a chance of him being in danger is very silly

He was a helicopter pilot. Helicopters are unstable flying machines at the best of times and he was deployed in active theatres of military operations in Afghanistan. Seriously, you are mistaken. Flying a helicopter by default comes with risk. Flying a military helicopter in a combat zone exacerbates the risk by some considerable degree.

No, he was a co pilot gunner, very different. No Apaches have been shot down in Afghanistan, the Taliban don’t have the weapons for that,

If he’d been sent out on patrol in the mobile coffin Land Rovers, then that would be hats off to him. He wasn’t.

Helicopters are naturally unstable and have very narrow flight envelope. By default, they are trying to shake themselves to pieces and are inherently unstable. They crash. Thirteen Apache helicopters were lost in Afghanistan. It is not just about being shot down it is the fast low-level tactical flying that massively increases the chances of a freak incident placing the aircraft outside of its operational envelope."

No British Apaches have been lost anywhere. The M25 on a Friday night is far more dangerous.

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By *oo hot OP   Couple  over a year ago

North West


"He could have left home anytime he wanted but then he would have had to work for a living like everyone else

Like serving in the armed forces and being in combat?

What while being protected by a unit of SBS and playing videogames in a bunker.

hats of to him going over there but to think he was ever a chance of him being in danger is very silly

He was a helicopter pilot. Helicopters are unstable flying machines at the best of times and he was deployed in active theatres of military operations in Afghanistan. Seriously, you are mistaken. Flying a helicopter by default comes with risk. Flying a military helicopter in a combat zone exacerbates the risk by some considerable degree.

No, he was a co pilot gunner, very different. No Apaches have been shot down in Afghanistan, the Taliban don’t have the weapons for that,

If he’d been sent out on patrol in the mobile coffin Land Rovers, then that would be hats off to him. He wasn’t.

Helicopters are naturally unstable and have very narrow flight envelope. By default, they are trying to shake themselves to pieces and are inherently unstable. They crash. Thirteen Apache helicopters were lost in Afghanistan. It is not just about being shot down it is the fast low-level tactical flying that massively increases the chances of a freak incident placing the aircraft outside of its operational envelope.

No British Apaches have been lost anywhere. The M25 on a Friday night is far more dangerous."

Having embarrassed yourself with your “sailing” assertions recently, do you really want to lock horns about aviation?

Flying generally is a risk activity because even small mistakes can be very costly.

Flying helicopters has additional risk because of the narrow flight envelope of all helicopters

Flying helicopters in theatres of combat is exponentially more risky because of the need to fly tactically.

Just let it go.

Prince Harry was engaged in high risk military operations in Afghanistan. He was - just leave it there. Stop arguing.

Suggest you just try hovering a Robinson R22 one day.

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By *dd269Man  over a year ago

Clee

Diana had her fairytale wedding and performed her duty to produce an Heir and a Spare. Since William married Kate and she has produced as well, Harry’s position a Spare is now redundant.

He now has to recognise his new position, and Me-again Markle has to recognise that her fairytale wedding was to a dud. It may not last long.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Diana had her fairytale wedding and performed her duty to produce an Heir and a Spare. Since William married Kate and she has produced as well, Harry’s position a Spare is now redundant.

He now has to recognise his new position, and Me-again Markle has to recognise that her fairytale wedding was to a dud. It may not last long."

Meghan was a big kick in the balls for harry, shame they've had kids as a split up will be more difficult.

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By *exy_HornyCouple  over a year ago

Leigh


"Because he was the cuckoo in the nest "

We wonder if Charlie ever took a paternity test.

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By *uliaChrisCouple  over a year ago

westerham


"He could have left home anytime he wanted but then he would have had to work for a living like everyone else

Like serving in the armed forces and being in combat?

What while being protected by a unit of SBS and playing videogames in a bunker.

hats of to him going over there but to think he was ever a chance of him being in danger is very silly

He was a helicopter pilot. Helicopters are unstable flying machines at the best of times and he was deployed in active theatres of military operations in Afghanistan. Seriously, you are mistaken. Flying a helicopter by default comes with risk. Flying a military helicopter in a combat zone exacerbates the risk by some considerable degree.

No, he was a co pilot gunner, very different. No Apaches have been shot down in Afghanistan, the Taliban don’t have the weapons for that,

If he’d been sent out on patrol in the mobile coffin Land Rovers, then that would be hats off to him. He wasn’t.

Helicopters are naturally unstable and have very narrow flight envelope. By default, they are trying to shake themselves to pieces and are inherently unstable. They crash. Thirteen Apache helicopters were lost in Afghanistan. It is not just about being shot down it is the fast low-level tactical flying that massively increases the chances of a freak incident placing the aircraft outside of its operational envelope.

No British Apaches have been lost anywhere. The M25 on a Friday night is far more dangerous.

Having embarrassed yourself with your “sailing” assertions recently, do you really want to lock horns about aviation?

Flying generally is a risk activity because even small mistakes can be very costly.

Flying helicopters has additional risk because of the narrow flight envelope of all helicopters

Flying helicopters in theatres of combat is exponentially more risky because of the need to fly tactically.

Just let it go.

Prince Harry was engaged in high risk military operations in Afghanistan. He was - just leave it there. Stop arguing.

Suggest you just try hovering a Robinson R22 one day."

An R22 is weak sauce, a child of 6 could fly one of those.

Losing your instruments at night and following an algae trail back to the carrier, that’s flying.

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By *uliaChrisCouple  over a year ago

westerham


"He could have left home anytime he wanted but then he would have had to work for a living like everyone else

Like serving in the armed forces and being in combat?

What while being protected by a unit of SBS and playing videogames in a bunker.

hats of to him going over there but to think he was ever a chance of him being in danger is very silly

He was a helicopter pilot. Helicopters are unstable flying machines at the best of times and he was deployed in active theatres of military operations in Afghanistan. Seriously, you are mistaken. Flying a helicopter by default comes with risk. Flying a military helicopter in a combat zone exacerbates the risk by some considerable degree.

No, he was a co pilot gunner, very different. No Apaches have been shot down in Afghanistan, the Taliban don’t have the weapons for that,

If he’d been sent out on patrol in the mobile coffin Land Rovers, then that would be hats off to him. He wasn’t.

Helicopters are naturally unstable and have very narrow flight envelope. By default, they are trying to shake themselves to pieces and are inherently unstable. They crash. Thirteen Apache helicopters were lost in Afghanistan. It is not just about being shot down it is the fast low-level tactical flying that massively increases the chances of a freak incident placing the aircraft outside of its operational envelope.

No British Apaches have been lost anywhere. The M25 on a Friday night is far more dangerous.

Having embarrassed yourself with your “sailing” assertions recently, do you really want to lock horns about aviation?

Flying generally is a risk activity because even small mistakes can be very costly.

Flying helicopters has additional risk because of the narrow flight envelope of all helicopters

Flying helicopters in theatres of combat is exponentially more risky because of the need to fly tactically.

Just let it go.

Prince Harry was engaged in high risk military operations in Afghanistan. He was - just leave it there. Stop arguing.

Suggest you just try hovering a Robinson R22 one day.

An R22 is weak sauce, a child of 6 could fly one of those.

Losing your instruments at night and following an algae trail back to the carrier, that’s flying. "

It doesn't bear comparison with what Chuck Yeager told me about when he lost control of his X1-A due to inertia coupling, that was really and risky flying.

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By *laytimenowMan  over a year ago

Essex


"He could have left home anytime he wanted but then he would have had to work for a living like everyone else

Like serving in the armed forces and being in combat?

What while being protected by a unit of SBS and playing videogames in a bunker.

hats of to him going over there but to think he was ever a chance of him being in danger is very silly

He was a helicopter pilot. Helicopters are unstable flying machines at the best of times and he was deployed in active theatres of military operations in Afghanistan. Seriously, you are mistaken. Flying a helicopter by default comes with risk. Flying a military helicopter in a combat zone exacerbates the risk by some considerable degree.

No, he was a co pilot gunner, very different. No Apaches have been shot down in Afghanistan, the Taliban don’t have the weapons for that,

If he’d been sent out on patrol in the mobile coffin Land Rovers, then that would be hats off to him. He wasn’t.

Helicopters are naturally unstable and have very narrow flight envelope. By default, they are trying to shake themselves to pieces and are inherently unstable. They crash. Thirteen Apache helicopters were lost in Afghanistan. It is not just about being shot down it is the fast low-level tactical flying that massively increases the chances of a freak incident placing the aircraft outside of its operational envelope.

No British Apaches have been lost anywhere. The M25 on a Friday night is far more dangerous.

Having embarrassed yourself with your “sailing” assertions recently, do you really want to lock horns about aviation?

Flying generally is a risk activity because even small mistakes can be very costly.

Flying helicopters has additional risk because of the narrow flight envelope of all helicopters

Flying helicopters in theatres of combat is exponentially more risky because of the need to fly tactically.

Just let it go.

Prince Harry was engaged in high risk military operations in Afghanistan. He was - just leave it there. Stop arguing.

Suggest you just try hovering a Robinson R22 one day.

An R22 is weak sauce, a child of 6 could fly one of those.

Losing your instruments at night and following an algae trail back to the carrier, that’s flying.

It doesn't bear comparison with what Chuck Yeager told me about when he lost control of his X1-A due to inertia coupling, that was really and risky flying. "

You do onow a winged flight vehicle

falls very differently to a rotator

Flight vehicle dont you ?

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By *uliaChrisCouple  over a year ago

westerham


"He could have left home anytime he wanted but then he would have had to work for a living like everyone else

Like serving in the armed forces and being in combat?

What while being protected by a unit of SBS and playing videogames in a bunker.

hats of to him going over there but to think he was ever a chance of him being in danger is very silly

He was a helicopter pilot. Helicopters are unstable flying machines at the best of times and he was deployed in active theatres of military operations in Afghanistan. Seriously, you are mistaken. Flying a helicopter by default comes with risk. Flying a military helicopter in a combat zone exacerbates the risk by some considerable degree.

No, he was a co pilot gunner, very different. No Apaches have been shot down in Afghanistan, the Taliban don’t have the weapons for that,

If he’d been sent out on patrol in the mobile coffin Land Rovers, then that would be hats off to him. He wasn’t.

Helicopters are naturally unstable and have very narrow flight envelope. By default, they are trying to shake themselves to pieces and are inherently unstable. They crash. Thirteen Apache helicopters were lost in Afghanistan. It is not just about being shot down it is the fast low-level tactical flying that massively increases the chances of a freak incident placing the aircraft outside of its operational envelope.

No British Apaches have been lost anywhere. The M25 on a Friday night is far more dangerous.

Having embarrassed yourself with your “sailing” assertions recently, do you really want to lock horns about aviation?

Flying generally is a risk activity because even small mistakes can be very costly.

Flying helicopters has additional risk because of the narrow flight envelope of all helicopters

Flying helicopters in theatres of combat is exponentially more risky because of the need to fly tactically.

Just let it go.

Prince Harry was engaged in high risk military operations in Afghanistan. He was - just leave it there. Stop arguing.

Suggest you just try hovering a Robinson R22 one day.

An R22 is weak sauce, a child of 6 could fly one of those.

Losing your instruments at night and following an algae trail back to the carrier, that’s flying.

It doesn't bear comparison with what Chuck Yeager told me about when he lost control of his X1-A due to inertia coupling, that was really and risky flying.

You do onow a winged flight vehicle

falls very differently to a rotator

Flight vehicle dont you ?

"

Technically they're very similar

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By *laytimenowMan  over a year ago

Essex


"He could have left home anytime he wanted but then he would have had to work for a living like everyone else

Like serving in the armed forces and being in combat?

What while being protected by a unit of SBS and playing videogames in a bunker.

hats of to him going over there but to think he was ever a chance of him being in danger is very silly

He was a helicopter pilot. Helicopters are unstable flying machines at the best of times and he was deployed in active theatres of military operations in Afghanistan. Seriously, you are mistaken. Flying a helicopter by default comes with risk. Flying a military helicopter in a combat zone exacerbates the risk by some considerable degree.

No, he was a co pilot gunner, very different. No Apaches have been shot down in Afghanistan, the Taliban don’t have the weapons for that,

If he’d been sent out on patrol in the mobile coffin Land Rovers, then that would be hats off to him. He wasn’t.

Helicopters are naturally unstable and have very narrow flight envelope. By default, they are trying to shake themselves to pieces and are inherently unstable. They crash. Thirteen Apache helicopters were lost in Afghanistan. It is not just about being shot down it is the fast low-level tactical flying that massively increases the chances of a freak incident placing the aircraft outside of its operational envelope.

No British Apaches have been lost anywhere. The M25 on a Friday night is far more dangerous.

Having embarrassed yourself with your “sailing” assertions recently, do you really want to lock horns about aviation?

Flying generally is a risk activity because even small mistakes can be very costly.

Flying helicopters has additional risk because of the narrow flight envelope of all helicopters

Flying helicopters in theatres of combat is exponentially more risky because of the need to fly tactically.

Just let it go.

Prince Harry was engaged in high risk military operations in Afghanistan. He was - just leave it there. Stop arguing.

Suggest you just try hovering a Robinson R22 one day.

An R22 is weak sauce, a child of 6 could fly one of those.

Losing your instruments at night and following an algae trail back to the carrier, that’s flying.

It doesn't bear comparison with what Chuck Yeager told me about when he lost control of his X1-A due to inertia coupling, that was really and risky flying.

You do onow a winged flight vehicle

falls very differently to a rotator

Flight vehicle dont you ?

Technically they're very similar "

Technically.theyre not .

The Belle X-1 was a rocket propeeled plane

That would spin

A helicopter would twist spin rotate & plunge to the ground .

Far harder to control .

I spoke to old chucky years ago when my grandaddy

Use to visit & phone him so i could say hello .

Both were test pilots way back when .

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