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https://news.sky.com/story/starmer-slumps-17-points-behind-pm-in-new-poll-and-a-third-of-labour-voters-want-him-to-quit-12307527
"Sir Keir Starmer slumps 17 points behind PM in new poll - and a third of Labour voters want him to quit
An Opinium poll sees the Labour leader struggling to make headway against a PM whose handling of the pandemic has gained approval."
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Wrong man for the job in my opinion, I never could see him succeeding as leader of Labour to be honest, he was too involved with the previous Labour cabinet and his stance on brexit was always going to piss more red wall voters off and not get them bk, and without there vote I cannot see any road bk to power for Labour for a very long time. |
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"Wrong man for the job in my opinion, I never could see him succeeding as leader of Labour to be honest, he was too involved with the previous Labour cabinet and his stance on brexit was always going to piss more red wall voters off and not get them bk, and without there vote I cannot see any road bk to power for Labour for a very long time."
I'm not too sure there are many pro leave labour big guns around?
He is good at pmq but he lacks charisma and passion. |
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"Wrong man for the job in my opinion, I never could see him succeeding as leader of Labour to be honest, he was too involved with the previous Labour cabinet and his stance on brexit was always going to piss more red wall voters off and not get them bk, and without there vote I cannot see any road bk to power for Labour for a very long time.
I'm not too sure there are many pro leave labour big guns around?
He is good at pmq but he lacks charisma and passion."
No i don't think there was, but somebody not so tainted by pushing for a second vote would have been a better choice. Yes he is precise at pmqs, but you would expect that from a barrister, but as you say he lacks charisma and passion, overall a bit dull I feel. |
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over a year ago
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"Well you didn't have a pro-leaver before SKS did you. So maybe you will just have to take who you've got - or just let them vote Conservative."
Is that the only choice? Vote Labour or Conservative.
Thankfully we have other options. Voting for these two parties is not compulsory. |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"Well you didn't have a pro-leaver before SKS did you. So maybe you will just have to take who you've got - or just let them vote Conservative."
they did he was just to scared to come out and say it corbyn was always anti eu until he became leader then sat on the fence.
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"Well you didn't have a pro-leaver before SKS did you. So maybe you will just have to take who you've got - or just let them vote Conservative. they did he was just to scared to come out and say it corbyn was always anti eu until he became leader then sat on the fence."
I said that lol.  |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"Well you didn't have a pro-leaver before SKS did you. So maybe you will just have to take who you've got - or just let them vote Conservative. they did he was just to scared to come out and say it corbyn was always anti eu until he became leader then sat on the fence.
I said that lol. "
sorry i can see what you mean now i didnt get the sarcasm written down doh  |
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"Well you didn't have a pro-leaver before SKS did you. So maybe you will just have to take who you've got - or just let them vote Conservative. they did he was just to scared to come out and say it corbyn was always anti eu until he became leader then sat on the fence.
I said that lol. sorry i can see what you mean now i didnt get the sarcasm written down doh "
lol. Only my third coffee here. |
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Was reading Andy Burnhams interview yesterday. Smart choice not wanting to throw his name in until after the next general election.
Who would want to take control of the current dumpster fire of a party. |
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"Was reading Andy Burnhams interview yesterday. Smart choice not wanting to throw his name in until after the next general election.
Who would want to take control of the current dumpster fire of a party. "
This. I would be very surprised if he went anywhere near it until Labour totally implode and reform (it's a matter of opinion where that is exactly right now lol) As very often the reformer doesn't get to be the one held up to lead any party into power. |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"Seeing as people are counting sks's days remaining, Andy Burnham would be good, possibly yvette cooper? "
She didnt come across very well on andrew marr this morning defending the labour party only herself. |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"Do you mean defending only herself? "
yes when he put the facts of how the labour party agreed with the gov about certain things she was saying they should not have done her reply was i wasnt saying that.  |
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"Well you didn't have a pro-leaver before SKS did you. So maybe you will just have to take who you've got - or just let them vote Conservative.
Is that the only choice? Vote Labour or Conservative.
Thankfully we have other options. Voting for these two parties is not compulsory."
In reality. Yes. It is the only choice if you want a serving government from all the parties available. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
upton wirral |
You Labour people just do not get it do you.
Labour wants to force PC and there ideas down are throat.
The majority do not want this,we want to decide our future,we want to be free we want no EU less government control on our lives.
Your living in a pre 1939 world full of idealistic crap and it caused a big war a very big war.
As a nation we have fought against this weather it be Hitler or the EU and won.Fought against communism and winning up to now and must continue to do so.
Even the Romans gave up trying to enforce there rules on us.
Freedom and democracy allways and until labour realises this they will be in trouble whoever leads them.
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"Wrong man for the job in my opinion, I never could see him succeeding as leader of Labour to be honest, he was too involved with the previous Labour cabinet and his stance on brexit was always going to piss more red wall voters off and not get them bk, and without there vote I cannot see any road bk to power for Labour for a very long time.
I'm not too sure there are many pro leave labour big guns around?
He is good at pmq but he lacks charisma and passion."
And he'a tory |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"You Labour people just do not get it do you.
Labour wants to force PC and there ideas down are throat.
The majority do not want this,we want to decide our future,we want to be free we want no EU less government control on our lives.
Your living in a pre 1939 world full of idealistic crap and it caused a big war a very big war.
As a nation we have fought against this weather it be Hitler or the EU and won.Fought against communism and winning up to now and must continue to do so.
Even the Romans gave up trying to enforce there rules on us.
Freedom and democracy allways and until labour realises this they will be in trouble whoever leads them.
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You want to decide your future yet when JC witheld his stance on Brexit, so you could do that, you all whined because he didn't tell you what to do... Wtf?! |
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"Wrong man for the job in my opinion, I never could see him succeeding as leader of Labour to be honest, he was too involved with the previous Labour cabinet and his stance on brexit was always going to piss more red wall voters off and not get them bk, and without there vote I cannot see any road bk to power for Labour for a very long time.
I'm not too sure there are many pro leave labour big guns around?
He is good at pmq but he lacks charisma and passion.
And he'a tory"
Angela Rayner wants to be too lol. |
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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago
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"He will be gone in the next 6 months Andy Burnham has an eye on his job."
I keep seeing Andy Burnham's name pop up and he certainly has a lot of support. As he has just been elected mayor I think it would be a bit of a kick in the teeth to those in Manchester that just voted for him as I think he would have to give that job up. I heard him on newscast saying he is not even an MP so not likely to happen anytime soon. Does anyone know if Labour party rules allow a non MP to be leader like in the conservative party? |
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"You Labour people just do not get it do you.
Labour wants to force PC and there ideas down are throat.
The majority do not want this,we want to decide our future,we want to be free we want no EU less government control on our lives.
Your living in a pre 1939 world full of idealistic crap and it caused a big war a very big war.
As a nation we have fought against this weather it be Hitler or the EU and won.Fought against communism and winning up to now and must continue to do so.
Even the Romans gave up trying to enforce there rules on us.
Freedom and democracy allways and until labour realises this they will be in trouble whoever leads them.
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Labour to blame now for ww2
That's a new one |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"You Labour people just do not get it do you.
Labour wants to force PC and there ideas down are throat.
The majority do not want this,we want to decide our future,we want to be free we want no EU less government control on our lives.
Your living in a pre 1939 world full of idealistic crap and it caused a big war a very big war.
As a nation we have fought against this weather it be Hitler or the EU and won.Fought against communism and winning up to now and must continue to do so.
Even the Romans gave up trying to enforce there rules on us.
Freedom and democracy allways and until labour realises this they will be in trouble whoever leads them.
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A bit of an outlandish statement don't you think? |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"You Labour people just do not get it do you.
Labour wants to force PC and there ideas down are throat.
The majority do not want this,we want to decide our future,we want to be free we want no EU less government control on our lives.
Your living in a pre 1939 world full of idealistic crap and it caused a big war a very big war.
As a nation we have fought against this weather it be Hitler or the EU and won.Fought against communism and winning up to now and must continue to do so.
Even the Romans gave up trying to enforce there rules on us.
Freedom and democracy allways and until labour realises this they will be in trouble whoever leads them.
Labour to blame now for ww2
That's a new one"
You do not understand what I said,I am talking about idealism ie fasism and communism and the labour party is about ideals.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"He will be gone in the next 6 months Andy Burnham has an eye on his job."
Burnham would have to become an MP 1st .
He has stated this himself .
So i think you can say He wont be anywhere near
Labour Leadership untill he decides . |
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