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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

More alleged sleaze , Priti Patel this time

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57129745.amp

Not sure if we are allowed to mention this on here without getting criticised

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"More alleged sleaze , Priti Patel this time

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57129745.amp

Not sure if we are allowed to mention this on here without getting criticised "

I think sky are going to tell us no one cares about this?

So what's that?

Undisclosed meetings with a foreign power

Bullying people to the brink of suicide

The head of a dept being investigated for human rights

Is she after Alex's job?

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan  over a year ago

here

Does it involve leather and knee high boots ????

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich

Im sure the good law project will get to the bottom of it in court.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Does it involve leather and knee high boots ????

"

Behave

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"More alleged sleaze , Priti Patel this time

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57129745.amp

Not sure if we are allowed to mention this on here without getting criticised

I think sky are going to tell us no one cares about this?

So what's that?

Undisclosed meetings with a foreign power

Bullying people to the brink of suicide

The head of a dept being investigated for human rights

Is she after Alex's job?

"

Indeed, with a record like that she must be considered for the top job

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By *hybloke67Man  over a year ago

ROMFORD

In Tony Blairs interview he said one of the reasons voters have turned away from Labour is because all they have been doing is finding anything they can to have a swip at the conservatives, rather than come up with a credible plan and ideas for a future government.

Seems to me he knows whats wrong with the current Labour outlook on things.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool

Obvs when a government minister is accused of making money on the side,we should all keep quiet.

Democracy in action

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan  over a year ago

here


"Does it involve leather and knee high boots ????

Behave "

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By *obka3Couple  over a year ago

bournemouth


"In Tony Blairs interview he said one of the reasons voters have turned away from Labour is because all they have been doing is finding anything they can to have a swip at the conservatives, rather than come up with a credible plan and ideas for a future government.

Seems to me he knows whats wrong with the current Labour outlook on things."

Just got to see the posts on this site to know labour and their supporters have absolutely nothing to say on how to improve things and no policies, all they can do is rake up muck, which is ok if any of it was real, just like the ccj against boris, that said I am fully behind any action against illegal actions taken by any politician,

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Obvs when a government minister is accused of making money on the side,we should all keep quiet.

Democracy in action

"

Definitely, we should know our place

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By *obka3Couple  over a year ago

bournemouth


"Obvs when a government minister is accused of making money on the side,we should all keep quiet.

Democracy in action

"

Still no suggestions one policies then just more muck raking, even your most successful leader EVER can see it is driving your supporters away, people want hope like him or loathe him that's what boris brings as do ALL winners, wingers lose

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"In Tony Blairs interview he said one of the reasons voters have turned away from Labour is because all they have been doing is finding anything they can to have a swip at the conservatives, rather than come up with a credible plan and ideas for a future government.

Seems to me he knows whats wrong with the current Labour outlook on things.

Just got to see the posts on this site to know labour and their supporters have absolutely nothing to say on how to improve things and no policies, all they can do is rake up muck, which is ok if any of it was real, just like the ccj against boris, that said I am fully behind any action against illegal actions taken by any politician, "

I took my car to be fixed last week, the garage made a right fuck up of fixing it, when I complained he said ‘could you do better’ & ‘why don’t you find a solution ‘, true story

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Obvs when a government minister is accused of making money on the side,we should all keep quiet.

Democracy in action

"

Where is the accusation of money making?

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By *obka3Couple  over a year ago

bournemouth


"In Tony Blairs interview he said one of the reasons voters have turned away from Labour is because all they have been doing is finding anything they can to have a swip at the conservatives, rather than come up with a credible plan and ideas for a future government.

Seems to me he knows whats wrong with the current Labour outlook on things.

Just got to see the posts on this site to know labour and their supporters have absolutely nothing to say on how to improve things and no policies, all they can do is rake up muck, which is ok if any of it was real, just like the ccj against boris, that said I am fully behind any action against illegal actions taken by any politician,

I took my car to be fixed last week, the garage made a right fuck up of fixing it, when I complained he said ‘could you do better’ & ‘why don’t you find a solution ‘, true story "

Of course it is

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"In Tony Blairs interview he said one of the reasons voters have turned away from Labour is because all they have been doing is finding anything they can to have a swip at the conservatives, rather than come up with a credible plan and ideas for a future government.

Seems to me he knows whats wrong with the current Labour outlook on things.

Just got to see the posts on this site to know labour and their supporters have absolutely nothing to say on how to improve things and no policies, all they can do is rake up muck, which is ok if any of it was real, just like the ccj against boris, that said I am fully behind any action against illegal actions taken by any politician,

I took my car to be fixed last week, the garage made a right fuck up of fixing it, when I complained he said ‘could you do better’ & ‘why don’t you find a solution ‘, true story

Of course it is"

Definitely, then my mobile phone broke, took it to 02 and they said, ‘why are you complaining, if you dont know how to fix then why should we, what is your solution’ true story that

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Every single thread round here now just descends into this nonsense

People are asking for opinions or suggestions. Not for you to have all the answers. There's a vast difference

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"Obvs when a government minister is accused of making money on the side,we should all keep quiet.

Democracy in action

Where is the accusation of money making? "

Just their imagination running away again but as my mate aways used to say dont let the truth get in the way of a good story.

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By *obka3Couple  over a year ago

bournemouth


"In Tony Blairs interview he said one of the reasons voters have turned away from Labour is because all they have been doing is finding anything they can to have a swip at the conservatives, rather than come up with a credible plan and ideas for a future government.

Seems to me he knows whats wrong with the current Labour outlook on things.

Just got to see the posts on this site to know labour and their supporters have absolutely nothing to say on how to improve things and no policies, all they can do is rake up muck, which is ok if any of it was real, just like the ccj against boris, that said I am fully behind any action against illegal actions taken by any politician,

I took my car to be fixed last week, the garage made a right fuck up of fixing it, when I complained he said ‘could you do better’ & ‘why don’t you find a solution ‘, true story

Of course it is

Definitely, then my mobile phone broke, took it to 02 and they said, ‘why are you complaining, if you dont know how to fix then why should we, what is your solution’ true story that "

Then you wonder why labour are going down the pan, your attitude of life is shit, let's just complain and get someone to make our life better makes you at home with them, you wont get far in life with that outlook

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

These threads are funny.

One of the Tories could walk into some people's living room, take a dump on the floor, smash the TV, and nick the biscuits from the cupboard. And Labour or Labour policy would get the blame.

It's really fun to watch.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"In Tony Blairs interview he said one of the reasons voters have turned away from Labour is because all they have been doing is finding anything they can to have a swip at the conservatives, rather than come up with a credible plan and ideas for a future government.

Seems to me he knows whats wrong with the current Labour outlook on things.

Just got to see the posts on this site to know labour and their supporters have absolutely nothing to say on how to improve things and no policies, all they can do is rake up muck, which is ok if any of it was real, just like the ccj against boris, that said I am fully behind any action against illegal actions taken by any politician,

I took my car to be fixed last week, the garage made a right fuck up of fixing it, when I complained he said ‘could you do better’ & ‘why don’t you find a solution ‘, true story

Of course it is

Definitely, then my mobile phone broke, took it to 02 and they said, ‘why are you complaining, if you dont know how to fix then why should we, what is your solution’ true story that

Then you wonder why labour are going down the pan, your attitude of life is shit, let's just complain and get someone to make our life better makes you at home with them, you wont get far in life with that outlook"

True, I feel silly going to an expert when getting my phone fixed I should have just done it myself, stayed quiet, and known my place

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"These threads are funny.

One of the Tories could walk into some people's living room, take a dump on the floor, smash the TV, and nick the biscuits from the cupboard. And Labour or Labour policy would get the blame.

It's really fun to watch. "

Indeed, tories know their place though , they are very obedient to the cause

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Obvs when a government minister is accused of making money on the side,we should all keep quiet.

Democracy in action

Definitely, we should know our place "

S'funny.. when prescott was driving round in 2 jags the ring wing media hammered him that much,he is still known by it over 20 years later.

Yet an entire gmnt mired in sleaze and we should all ignore it.

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By *obka3Couple  over a year ago

bournemouth


"These threads are funny.

One of the Tories could walk into some people's living room, take a dump on the floor, smash the TV, and nick the biscuits from the cupboard. And Labour or Labour policy would get the blame.

It's really fun to watch. "

That's the whole point, neither labour or you have any policies, that's why they are losing support. What does starker stand for ? What's his view on how to tackle covid, what's his view on social care, what's his view on building a new vision after brexit, only one policy which is don't tell the voters

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Obvs when a government minister is accused of making money on the side,we should all keep quiet.

Democracy in action

Still no suggestions one policies then just more muck raking, even your most successful leader EVER can see it is driving your supporters away, people want hope like him or loathe him that's what boris brings as do ALL winners, wingers lose "

Let me get this straight..a man sacked twice...a man who cheated on his gravely I'll wife and gave his fling gmnt money...a man who has broken that many pledges we have lost cost..a pm ..who lies that much he literally has to be fact checked that to you is a winner?

Serously?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"More alleged sleaze , Priti Patel this time

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57129745.amp

Not sure if we are allowed to mention this on here without getting criticised "

Oh I'm sure some usual suspects will be along

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"Obvs when a government minister is accused of making money on the side,we should all keep quiet.

Democracy in action

Definitely, we should know our place

S'funny.. when prescott was driving round in 2 jags the ring wing media hammered him that much,he is still known by it over 20 years later.

Yet an entire gmnt mired in sleaze and we should all ignore it."

Yet again a total fabrication i haven't seen one post so far that says it should be ignored. I stand by what i have said before which is anyone whomever it is if found to have broken the law should be prosecuted. I still believe in the uk you are innocent until proved guilty but guess thats just me.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool

As for labour having no policies,I'd advise anyone to check out the interview given by the new hartlepool incumbent

As an aside,one of the biggest crotiscm of starmer is they dont know what his policies are,but what this has to do with a gmnt mired in sleaze is anyones guess.

Well apart from blatant deflection.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"These threads are funny.

One of the Tories could walk into some people's living room, take a dump on the floor, smash the TV, and nick the biscuits from the cupboard. And Labour or Labour policy would get the blame.

It's really fun to watch.

That's the whole point, neither labour or you have any policies, that's why they are losing support. What does starker stand for ? What's his view on how to tackle covid, what's his view on social care, what's his view on building a new vision after brexit, only one policy which is don't tell the voters"

what's that got to do with Tory corruption?

I don't care about Labour.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"These threads are funny.

One of the Tories could walk into some people's living room, take a dump on the floor, smash the TV, and nick the biscuits from the cupboard. And Labour or Labour policy would get the blame.

It's really fun to watch.

That's the whole point, neither labour or you have any policies, that's why they are losing support. What does starker stand for ? What's his view on how to tackle covid, what's his view on social care, what's his view on building a new vision after brexit, only one policy which is don't tell the voters

what's that got to do with Tory corruption?

I don't care about Labour."

Absolutely nothing

Its total whataboutery and deflecting

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"As for labour having no policies,I'd advise anyone to check out the interview given by the new hartlepool incumbent

As an aside,one of the biggest crotiscm of starmer is they dont know what his policies are,but what this has to do with a gmnt mired in sleaze is anyones guess.

Well apart from blatant deflection."

Because the die hard Tory has been indoctrinated to believe that it is labours fault and any criticism towards their leaders has to be dismissed . You see it all the time on here, it’s like communist China & Russia

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"These threads are funny.

One of the Tories could walk into some people's living room, take a dump on the floor, smash the TV, and nick the biscuits from the cupboard. And Labour or Labour policy would get the blame.

It's really fun to watch.

That's the whole point, neither labour or you have any policies, that's why they are losing support. What does starker stand for ? What's his view on how to tackle covid, what's his view on social care, what's his view on building a new vision after brexit, only one policy which is don't tell the voters

what's that got to do with Tory corruption?

I don't care about Labour.

Absolutely nothing

Its total whataboutery and deflecting

"

What the sleaze allegations? as that is all they are at the moment.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"These threads are funny.

One of the Tories could walk into some people's living room, take a dump on the floor, smash the TV, and nick the biscuits from the cupboard. And Labour or Labour policy would get the blame.

It's really fun to watch.

That's the whole point, neither labour or you have any policies, that's why they are losing support. What does starker stand for ? What's his view on how to tackle covid, what's his view on social care, what's his view on building a new vision after brexit, only one policy which is don't tell the voters

what's that got to do with Tory corruption?

I don't care about Labour.

Absolutely nothing

Its total whataboutery and deflecting

What the sleaze allegations? as that is all they are at the moment. "

Yes, they are ‘allegations’ at this stage , some with enough evidence to warrant an investigation, should they be dismissed?

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By *obka3Couple  over a year ago

bournemouth


"These threads are funny.

One of the Tories could walk into some people's living room, take a dump on the floor, smash the TV, and nick the biscuits from the cupboard. And Labour or Labour policy would get the blame.

It's really fun to watch.

That's the whole point, neither labour or you have any policies, that's why they are losing support. What does starker stand for ? What's his view on how to tackle covid, what's his view on social care, what's his view on building a new vision after brexit, only one policy which is don't tell the voters

what's that got to do with Tory corruption?

I don't care about Labour.

Absolutely nothing

Its total whataboutery and deflecting

"

The deflecting is coming from labour as they have nothing else, since the local elections and by election, lots of labour politicians past and present including their most successful leader ever has made the point, labour have no policies, no alternative, just like their supporters here, if people want to get rid of the tories then the opposition need a credible plan to get voters to vote for them, corruption/sleaze and cronyism will be dealt with by the police. Until labour produce a plan no one will vote for them

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"These threads are funny.

One of the Tories could walk into some people's living room, take a dump on the floor, smash the TV, and nick the biscuits from the cupboard. And Labour or Labour policy would get the blame.

It's really fun to watch.

That's the whole point, neither labour or you have any policies, that's why they are losing support. What does starker stand for ? What's his view on how to tackle covid, what's his view on social care, what's his view on building a new vision after brexit, only one policy which is don't tell the voters

what's that got to do with Tory corruption?

I don't care about Labour.

Absolutely nothing

Its total whataboutery and deflecting

What the sleaze allegations? as that is all they are at the moment.

Yes, they are ‘allegations’ at this stage , some with enough evidence to warrant an investigation, should they be dismissed? "

No of course not as i said if found guilty the full force of the law should be applied.What i object to is some on here presenting allegations as facts because thats what they want them to be.Its only true when found to be until then they are innocent or do you not believe in uk law?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"These threads are funny.

One of the Tories could walk into some people's living room, take a dump on the floor, smash the TV, and nick the biscuits from the cupboard. And Labour or Labour policy would get the blame.

It's really fun to watch.

That's the whole point, neither labour or you have any policies, that's why they are losing support. What does starker stand for ? What's his view on how to tackle covid, what's his view on social care, what's his view on building a new vision after brexit, only one policy which is don't tell the voters

what's that got to do with Tory corruption?

I don't care about Labour.

Absolutely nothing

Its total whataboutery and deflecting

What the sleaze allegations? as that is all they are at the moment.

Yes, they are ‘allegations’ at this stage , some with enough evidence to warrant an investigation, should they be dismissed? No of course not as i said if found guilty the full force of the law should be applied.What i object to is some on here presenting allegations as facts because thats what they want them to be.Its only true when found to be until then they are innocent or do you not believe in uk law? "

Yes I believe in UK law, do you think that the PM should have the final say on allegations about himself?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"These threads are funny.

One of the Tories could walk into some people's living room, take a dump on the floor, smash the TV, and nick the biscuits from the cupboard. And Labour or Labour policy would get the blame.

It's really fun to watch.

That's the whole point, neither labour or you have any policies, that's why they are losing support. What does starker stand for ? What's his view on how to tackle covid, what's his view on social care, what's his view on building a new vision after brexit, only one policy which is don't tell the voters

what's that got to do with Tory corruption?

I don't care about Labour.

Absolutely nothing

Its total whataboutery and deflecting

The deflecting is coming from labour as they have nothing else, since the local elections and by election, lots of labour politicians past and present including their most successful leader ever has made the point, labour have no policies, no alternative, just like their supporters here, if people want to get rid of the tories then the opposition need a credible plan to get voters to vote for them, corruption/sleaze and cronyism will be dealt with by the police. Until labour produce a plan no one will vote for them"

What have labour policies got to do with Tory sleaze?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"In Tony Blairs interview he said one of the reasons voters have turned away from Labour is because all they have been doing is finding anything they can to have a swip at the conservatives, rather than come up with a credible plan and ideas for a future government.

Seems to me he knows whats wrong with the current Labour outlook on things.

Just got to see the posts on this site to know labour and their supporters have absolutely nothing to say on how to improve things and no policies, all they can do is rake up muck, which is ok if any of it was real, just like the ccj against boris, that said I am fully behind any action against illegal actions taken by any politician, "

I am sure you'd be concerned if a Labour government cabinet members were acting similarly, as would i.

If these things are coming to light then what else could be going on that we don't know about?

These people decide on policies that affect the country.

the pm should be keeping discipline and isn't.

The only solution is in a general election.

Btw the ccj against boris : iagree with you there

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich


"These threads are funny.

One of the Tories could walk into some people's living room, take a dump on the floor, smash the TV, and nick the biscuits from the cupboard. And Labour or Labour policy would get the blame.

It's really fun to watch.

That's the whole point, neither labour or you have any policies, that's why they are losing support. What does starker stand for ? What's his view on how to tackle covid, what's his view on social care, what's his view on building a new vision after brexit, only one policy which is don't tell the voters

what's that got to do with Tory corruption?

I don't care about Labour.

Absolutely nothing

Its total whataboutery and deflecting

What the sleaze allegations? as that is all they are at the moment.

Yes, they are ‘allegations’ at this stage , some with enough evidence to warrant an investigation, should they be dismissed? No of course not as i said if found guilty the full force of the law should be applied.What i object to is some on here presenting allegations as facts because thats what they want them to be.Its only true when found to be until then they are innocent or do you not believe in uk law?

Yes I believe in UK law, do you think that the PM should have the final say on allegations about himself? "

No

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By *loughing the landMan  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Obvs when a government minister is accused of making money on the side,we should all keep quiet.

Democracy in action

Still no suggestions one policies then just more muck raking, even your most successful leader EVER can see it is driving your supporters away, people want hope like him or loathe him that's what boris brings as do ALL winners, wingers lose

Let me get this straight..a man sacked twice...a man who cheated on his gravely I'll wife and gave his fling gmnt money...a man who has broken that many pledges we have lost cost..a pm ..who lies that much he literally has to be fact checked that to you is a winner?

Serously?

"

Why would anyone be in the slightest bit concerned about Boris being sacked. That is between him and his employer. His talent was clearly recognised by other organisations or departments as he secured alternative roles very quickly.

The relationship between Boris and his wife is a private matter and nothing to do with the public. We know nothing about the circumstances.

If you think that a lot of the information supplied by Boris is incorrect . maybe blame the Civil Service . They supply the facts and figures to Boris.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Obvs when a government minister is accused of making money on the side,we should all keep quiet.

Democracy in action

Still no suggestions one policies then just more muck raking, even your most successful leader EVER can see it is driving your supporters away, people want hope like him or loathe him that's what boris brings as do ALL winners, wingers lose

Let me get this straight..a man sacked twice...a man who cheated on his gravely I'll wife and gave his fling gmnt money...a man who has broken that many pledges we have lost cost..a pm ..who lies that much he literally has to be fact checked that to you is a winner?

Serously?

Why would anyone be in the slightest bit concerned about Boris being sacked. That is between him and his employer. His talent was clearly recognised by other organisations or departments as he secured alternative roles very quickly.

The relationship between Boris and his wife is a private matter and nothing to do with the public. We know nothing about the circumstances.

If you think that a lot of the information supplied by Boris is incorrect . maybe blame the Civil Service . They supply the facts and figures to Boris. "

I will give you this Pat, you definitely know your place

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"In Tony Blairs interview he said one of the reasons voters have turned away from Labour is because all they have been doing is finding anything they can to have a swip at the conservatives, rather than come up with a credible plan and ideas for a future government.

Seems to me he knows whats wrong with the current Labour outlook on things.

Just got to see the posts on this site to know labour and their supporters have absolutely nothing to say on how to improve things and no policies, all they can do is rake up muck, which is ok if any of it was real, just like the ccj against boris, that said I am fully behind any action against illegal actions taken by any politician,

I am sure you'd be concerned if a Labour government cabinet members were acting similarly, as would i.

If these things are coming to light then what else could be going on that we don't know about?

These people decide on policies that affect the country.

the pm should be keeping discipline and isn't.

The only solution is in a general election.

Btw the ccj against boris : iagree with you there "

The CCJ was ridiculous, piss poor journalism and a total non story

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"These threads are funny.

One of the Tories could walk into some people's living room, take a dump on the floor, smash the TV, and nick the biscuits from the cupboard. And Labour or Labour policy would get the blame.

It's really fun to watch.

That's the whole point, neither labour or you have any policies, that's why they are losing support. What does starker stand for ? What's his view on how to tackle covid, what's his view on social care, what's his view on building a new vision after brexit, only one policy which is don't tell the voters

what's that got to do with Tory corruption?

I don't care about Labour.

Absolutely nothing

Its total whataboutery and deflecting

The deflecting is coming from labour as they have nothing else, since the local elections and by election, lots of labour politicians past and present including their most successful leader ever has made the point, labour have no policies, no alternative, just like their supporters here, if people want to get rid of the tories then the opposition need a credible plan to get voters to vote for them, corruption/sleaze and cronyism will be dealt with by the police. Until labour produce a plan no one will vote for them"

In fairness, this is pretty funny. Your argument against the fact the people blame Labour for the Tory corruption, centres about blaming Labour, for the Tory corruption.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"These threads are funny.

One of the Tories could walk into some people's living room, take a dump on the floor, smash the TV, and nick the biscuits from the cupboard. And Labour or Labour policy would get the blame.

It's really fun to watch.

That's the whole point, neither labour or you have any policies, that's why they are losing support. What does starker stand for ? What's his view on how to tackle covid, what's his view on social care, what's his view on building a new vision after brexit, only one policy which is don't tell the voters

what's that got to do with Tory corruption?

I don't care about Labour.

Absolutely nothing

Its total whataboutery and deflecting

The deflecting is coming from labour as they have nothing else, since the local elections and by election, lots of labour politicians past and present including their most successful leader ever has made the point, labour have no policies, no alternative, just like their supporters here, if people want to get rid of the tories then the opposition need a credible plan to get voters to vote for them, corruption/sleaze and cronyism will be dealt with by the police. Until labour produce a plan no one will vote for them

In fairness, this is pretty funny. Your argument against the fact the people blame Labour for the Tory corruption, centres about blaming Labour, for the Tory corruption.

"

They know their place, Tory sleaze ? But what about the oppositions policies . Tory policies? Would you do any better? ‘What is your solution ? Deflect, don’t criticise and know your place

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"These threads are funny.

One of the Tories could walk into some people's living room, take a dump on the floor, smash the TV, and nick the biscuits from the cupboard. And Labour or Labour policy would get the blame.

It's really fun to watch.

That's the whole point, neither labour or you have any policies, that's why they are losing support. What does starker stand for ? What's his view on how to tackle covid, what's his view on social care, what's his view on building a new vision after brexit, only one policy which is don't tell the voters

what's that got to do with Tory corruption?

I don't care about Labour.

Absolutely nothing

Its total whataboutery and deflecting

The deflecting is coming from labour as they have nothing else, since the local elections and by election, lots of labour politicians past and present including their most successful leader ever has made the point, labour have no policies, no alternative, just like their supporters here, if people want to get rid of the tories then the opposition need a credible plan to get voters to vote for them, corruption/sleaze and cronyism will be dealt with by the police. Until labour produce a plan no one will vote for them"

I'm not going to vote for a party, I dont know what their current policies are.

I'll vote for a party who are literally mired in sleaze and who's leader wouldnt know the truth if it got into bed with him.

1st class logic right there.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"In Tony Blairs interview he said one of the reasons voters have turned away from Labour is because all they have been doing is finding anything they can to have a swip at the conservatives, rather than come up with a credible plan and ideas for a future government.

Seems to me he knows whats wrong with the current Labour outlook on things.

Just got to see the posts on this site to know labour and their supporters have absolutely nothing to say on how to improve things and no policies, all they can do is rake up muck, which is ok if any of it was real, just like the ccj against boris, that said I am fully behind any action against illegal actions taken by any politician,

I am sure you'd be concerned if a Labour government cabinet members were acting similarly, as would i.

If these things are coming to light then what else could be going on that we don't know about?

These people decide on policies that affect the country.

the pm should be keeping discipline and isn't.

The only solution is in a general election.

Btw the ccj against boris : iagree with you there "

Yep.

If If it was labour or snp involved the reaction would be exactly the same

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"These threads are funny.

One of the Tories could walk into some people's living room, take a dump on the floor, smash the TV, and nick the biscuits from the cupboard. And Labour or Labour policy would get the blame.

It's really fun to watch.

That's the whole point, neither labour or you have any policies, that's why they are losing support. What does starker stand for ? What's his view on how to tackle covid, what's his view on social care, what's his view on building a new vision after brexit, only one policy which is don't tell the voters

what's that got to do with Tory corruption?

I don't care about Labour.

Absolutely nothing

Its total whataboutery and deflecting

What the sleaze allegations? as that is all they are at the moment.

Yes, they are ‘allegations’ at this stage , some with enough evidence to warrant an investigation, should they be dismissed? No of course not as i said if found guilty the full force of the law should be applied.What i object to is some on here presenting allegations as facts because thats what they want them to be.Its only true when found to be until then they are innocent or do you not believe in uk law?

Yes I believe in UK law, do you think that the PM should have the final say on allegations about himself? "

Of course he should..thats democracy right there

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Obvs when a government minister is accused of making money on the side,we should all keep quiet.

Democracy in action

Still no suggestions one policies then just more muck raking, even your most successful leader EVER can see it is driving your supporters away, people want hope like him or loathe him that's what boris brings as do ALL winners, wingers lose

Let me get this straight..a man sacked twice...a man who cheated on his gravely I'll wife and gave his fling gmnt money...a man who has broken that many pledges we have lost cost..a pm ..who lies that much he literally has to be fact checked that to you is a winner?

Serously?

Why would anyone be in the slightest bit concerned about Boris being sacked. That is between him and his employer. His talent was clearly recognised by other organisations or departments as he secured alternative roles very quickly.

The relationship between Boris and his wife is a private matter and nothing to do with the public. We know nothing about the circumstances.

If you think that a lot of the information supplied by Boris is incorrect . maybe blame the Civil Service . They supply the facts and figures to Boris.

I will give you this Pat, you definitely know your place "

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By *ockdownerMan  over a year ago

Preston


"More alleged sleaze , Priti Patel this time

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57129745.amp

Not sure if we are allowed to mention this on here without getting criticised "

When she was found guilty of bullying staff by an independent investigation and Boris simply throws the report in the proverbial bin, don't hold your breath over anything but a pat on the back for her.

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By *ebbie69Couple  over a year ago

milton keynes


"These threads are funny.

One of the Tories could walk into some people's living room, take a dump on the floor, smash the TV, and nick the biscuits from the cupboard. And Labour or Labour policy would get the blame.

It's really fun to watch.

That's the whole point, neither labour or you have any policies, that's why they are losing support. What does starker stand for ? What's his view on how to tackle covid, what's his view on social care, what's his view on building a new vision after brexit, only one policy which is don't tell the voters

what's that got to do with Tory corruption?

I don't care about Labour.

Absolutely nothing

Its total whataboutery and deflecting

What the sleaze allegations? as that is all they are at the moment.

Yes, they are ‘allegations’ at this stage , some with enough evidence to warrant an investigation, should they be dismissed? "

no not dismissed. They should be checked and if found true the culprit should be dealt with accordingly. Also Boris should not be the judge if he is the alleged culprit. If a judge commited a crime I would not expect him to lead his own trial

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By *ausageNmashCouple  over a year ago

Andover


"In Tony Blairs interview he said one of the reasons voters have turned away from Labour is because all they have been doing is finding anything they can to have a swip at the conservatives, rather than come up with a credible plan and ideas for a future government.

Seems to me he knows whats wrong with the current Labour outlook on things.

Just got to see the posts on this site to know labour and their supporters have absolutely nothing to say on how to improve things and no policies, all they can do is rake up muck, which is ok if any of it was real, just like the ccj against boris, that said I am fully behind any action against illegal actions taken by any politician,

I took my car to be fixed last week, the garage made a right fuck up of fixing it, when I complained he said ‘could you do better’ & ‘why don’t you find a solution ‘, true story "

And they where right

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"In Tony Blairs interview he said one of the reasons voters have turned away from Labour is because all they have been doing is finding anything they can to have a swip at the conservatives, rather than come up with a credible plan and ideas for a future government.

Seems to me he knows whats wrong with the current Labour outlook on things.

Just got to see the posts on this site to know labour and their supporters have absolutely nothing to say on how to improve things and no policies, all they can do is rake up muck, which is ok if any of it was real, just like the ccj against boris, that said I am fully behind any action against illegal actions taken by any politician,

I took my car to be fixed last week, the garage made a right fuck up of fixing it, when I complained he said ‘could you do better’ & ‘why don’t you find a solution ‘, true story

And they where right "

Who were ‘right ‘?

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"More alleged sleaze , Priti Patel this time

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57129745.amp

Not sure if we are allowed to mention this on here without getting criticised

When she was found guilty of bullying staff by an independent investigation and Boris simply throws the report in the proverbial bin, don't hold your breath over anything but a pat on the back for her. "

Its farcical

They dont even pretend.

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