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Part 2…. The Israeli Palestinian conflict…

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By *abio OP   Man  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

Flicking through most of thread 1 it seems that most people have forgotten or overlooked the main issue here… which is Israeli government placing Jewish settlements on Palestinian territory in direct contradiction of various UN resolutions… the thing that sparked this round of violence off it a direct offshoot of this! You can’t keep or build on land won in war… and using using a 2000 yr old book as a pretence for furthering claims to land is pathetic

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By *ostafunMan  over a year ago

near ipswich

You wont change it mate its an impossible situation look at the radical muslims they are still on about shit that happened over a 1000 years ago.I would have thought the jews would have a bit of empathy though knowing what they went through in the 30,s and 40,s in Germany.

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By *ykmwyldTV/TS  over a year ago

Belpre

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By *ykmwyldTV/TS  over a year ago

Belpre

I would love to see the conflict stop between those two, sadly I'm very sure it probably never will.

I've read many of the comments in the 1st forum.

Its a bad situation all the way around.

Thankfully, Israel is showing a good bit of restraint, while still trying to get their point across.

Oh, before anyone comments and says, " what restraint is Israel showing ? "

Well, let me remind those people that would ask

such a question. Israel has the capabilities to do

far worse, if they decide to use such measures to

end this conflict.

Let's just hope it doesn't come to that, for

everyones sake !

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"I would love to see the conflict stop between those two, sadly I'm very sure it probably never will.

I've read many of the comments in the 1st forum.

Its a bad situation all the way around.

Thankfully, Israel is showing a good bit of restraint, while still trying to get their point across.

Oh, before anyone comments and says, " what restraint is Israel showing ? "

Well, let me remind those people that would ask

such a question. Israel has the capabilities to do

far worse, if they decide to use such measures to

end this conflict.

Let's just hope it doesn't come to that, for

everyones sake !

"

I'm not sure wiping out an entire state counts as restraint tbh

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I would love to see the conflict stop between those two, sadly I'm very sure it probably never will.

I've read many of the comments in the 1st forum.

Its a bad situation all the way around.

Thankfully, Israel is showing a good bit of restraint, while still trying to get their point across.

Oh, before anyone comments and says, " what restraint is Israel showing ? "

Well, let me remind those people that would ask

such a question. Israel has the capabilities to do

far worse, if they decide to use such measures to

end this conflict.

Let's just hope it doesn't come to that, for

everyones sake !

I'm not sure wiping out an entire state counts as restraint tbh"

Is Israel being selective of targets? Hamas is not just blindly launching multiple indiscriminate attacks? They trying to overwhelm the iron dome in hopes that their rockets get through while using civilian population as human shields to cause outrage when their launchers are hit.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"I would love to see the conflict stop between those two, sadly I'm very sure it probably never will.

I've read many of the comments in the 1st forum.

Its a bad situation all the way around.

Thankfully, Israel is showing a good bit of restraint, while still trying to get their point across.

Oh, before anyone comments and says, " what restraint is Israel showing ? "

Well, let me remind those people that would ask

such a question. Israel has the capabilities to do

far worse, if they decide to use such measures to

end this conflict.

Let's just hope it doesn't come to that, for

everyones sake !

I'm not sure wiping out an entire state counts as restraint tbh

Is Israel being selective of targets? Hamas is not just blindly launching multiple indiscriminate attacks? They trying to overwhelm the iron dome in hopes that their rockets get through while using civilian population as human shields to cause outrage when their launchers are hit. "

How many civilians have israel killed?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I would love to see the conflict stop between those two, sadly I'm very sure it probably never will.

I've read many of the comments in the 1st forum.

Its a bad situation all the way around.

Thankfully, Israel is showing a good bit of restraint, while still trying to get their point across.

Oh, before anyone comments and says, " what restraint is Israel showing ? "

Well, let me remind those people that would ask

such a question. Israel has the capabilities to do

far worse, if they decide to use such measures to

end this conflict.

Let's just hope it doesn't come to that, for

everyones sake !

I'm not sure wiping out an entire state counts as restraint tbh

Is Israel being selective of targets? Hamas is not just blindly launching multiple indiscriminate attacks? They trying to overwhelm the iron dome in hopes that their rockets get through while using civilian population as human shields to cause outrage when their launchers are hit.

How many civilians have israel killed?"

So what is the appropriate response for Israel in your eyes? Sit back under the dome and do nothing?

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"I would love to see the conflict stop between those two, sadly I'm very sure it probably never will.

I've read many of the comments in the 1st forum.

Its a bad situation all the way around.

Thankfully, Israel is showing a good bit of restraint, while still trying to get their point across.

Oh, before anyone comments and says, " what restraint is Israel showing ? "

Well, let me remind those people that would ask

such a question. Israel has the capabilities to do

far worse, if they decide to use such measures to

end this conflict.

Let's just hope it doesn't come to that, for

everyones sake !

I'm not sure wiping out an entire state counts as restraint tbh

Is Israel being selective of targets? Hamas is not just blindly launching multiple indiscriminate attacks? They trying to overwhelm the iron dome in hopes that their rockets get through while using civilian population as human shields to cause outrage when their launchers are hit.

How many civilians have israel killed?

So what is the appropriate response for Israel in your eyes? Sit back under the dome and do nothing? "

Did I miss your answer there?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I would love to see the conflict stop between those two, sadly I'm very sure it probably never will.

I've read many of the comments in the 1st forum.

Its a bad situation all the way around.

Thankfully, Israel is showing a good bit of restraint, while still trying to get their point across.

Oh, before anyone comments and says, " what restraint is Israel showing ? "

Well, let me remind those people that would ask

such a question. Israel has the capabilities to do

far worse, if they decide to use such measures to

end this conflict.

Let's just hope it doesn't come to that, for

everyones sake !

I'm not sure wiping out an entire state counts as restraint tbh

Is Israel being selective of targets? Hamas is not just blindly launching multiple indiscriminate attacks? They trying to overwhelm the iron dome in hopes that their rockets get through while using civilian population as human shields to cause outrage when their launchers are hit.

How many civilians have israel killed?

So what is the appropriate response for Israel in your eyes? Sit back under the dome and do nothing?

Did I miss your answer there?"

There is going to be more casualties on Hamas side of the conflict because they lack defensive capabilities. 130 six days. So what should Israel do just let the rockets through ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I would love to see the conflict stop between those two, sadly I'm very sure it probably never will.

I've read many of the comments in the 1st forum.

Its a bad situation all the way around.

Thankfully, Israel is showing a good bit of restraint, while still trying to get their point across.

Oh, before anyone comments and says, " what restraint is Israel showing ? "

Well, let me remind those people that would ask

such a question. Israel has the capabilities to do

far worse, if they decide to use such measures to

end this conflict.

Let's just hope it doesn't come to that, for

everyones sake !

I'm not sure wiping out an entire state counts as restraint tbh

Is Israel being selective of targets? Hamas is not just blindly launching multiple indiscriminate attacks? They trying to overwhelm the iron dome in hopes that their rockets get through while using civilian population as human shields to cause outrage when their launchers are hit.

How many civilians have israel killed?

So what is the appropriate response for Israel in your eyes? Sit back under the dome and do nothing?

Did I miss your answer there?

There is going to be more casualties on Hamas side of the conflict because they lack defensive capabilities. 130 six days. So what should Israel do just let the rockets through ?"

Maybe they could stop building settlements in Palestinian lands, and stop rebuilding the border 2-5 miles into Palestine.

I don't know of many countries that would be happy with their land being stollen.

Sure, firing rockets is a shitty thing to do.

But let's get some perspective, one side of this conflict is better funded, better equipped, better supported on the international stage and is the main aggressor.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"I would love to see the conflict stop between those two, sadly I'm very sure it probably never will.

I've read many of the comments in the 1st forum.

Its a bad situation all the way around.

Thankfully, Israel is showing a good bit of restraint, while still trying to get their point across.

Oh, before anyone comments and says, " what restraint is Israel showing ? "

Well, let me remind those people that would ask

such a question. Israel has the capabilities to do

far worse, if they decide to use such measures to

end this conflict.

Let's just hope it doesn't come to that, for

everyones sake !

I'm not sure wiping out an entire state counts as restraint tbh

Is Israel being selective of targets? Hamas is not just blindly launching multiple indiscriminate attacks? They trying to overwhelm the iron dome in hopes that their rockets get through while using civilian population as human shields to cause outrage when their launchers are hit.

How many civilians have israel killed?

So what is the appropriate response for Israel in your eyes? Sit back under the dome and do nothing?

Did I miss your answer there?

There is going to be more casualties on Hamas side of the conflict because they lack defensive capabilities. 130 six days. So what should Israel do just let the rockets through ?"

So the argument that only Palestine are targeting civilians is flawed,?

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool

Are refugee camps militarily targets?

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By *wisted999Man  over a year ago

North Bucks

That was some precise work taking out the media building.

Qatar gonna be pissed now.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"That was some precise work taking out the media building.

Qatar gonna be pissed now. "

Maybe it was just a lucky strike since everyone thinks the IDF is directly targeting civilians indiscriminately. Even warned they are launching that attack so people cleared it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

https://mobile.twitter.com/AlaaDaraghme/status/1391793058237358084

Only watch the clip in this link if you have a strong

Constitution .

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"https://mobile.twitter.com/AlaaDaraghme/status/1391793058237358084

Only watch the clip in this link if you have a strong

Constitution ."

Well that's clearly another military target

Still only defending themselves.

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By *unnyPairCouple  over a year ago

Seminole

It’s definitely not a good versus evil situation. Those who think it is on either side of this conflict will not have their minds changed.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Reality of war. Seen worse in realtime. You can be appalled. I am desensitized to violence. Can't help it. This is what religious wars do. Hamas chose to fire and keep the rocket attacks up. IDF going to respond. Hamas handed Israel this tragedy by giving them the green light by attacking first. Now everyone appalled by the responses.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Reality of war. Seen worse in realtime. You can be appalled. I am desensitized to violence. Can't help it. This is what religious wars do. Hamas chose to fire and keep the rocket attacks up. IDF going to respond. Hamas handed Israel this tragedy by giving them the green light by attacking first. Now everyone appalled by the responses."

Aye .many a time I've walked down the shop and seen the aftermath of a airstrike with body parts everywhere.. its a common occurrence .

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By *atEvolutionCouple  over a year ago

'Merry Christmas'

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It’s definitely not a good versus evil situation. Those who think it is on either side of this conflict will not have their minds changed."

Absolutely, neither party is coming away from this with the moral high ground.

But these two sides are not evenly matched, and one side is oppressed, imprisoned, and has their land forcibly taken year or year and get not help from the international community.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Reality of war. Seen worse in realtime. You can be appalled. I am desensitized to violence. Can't help it. This is what religious wars do. Hamas chose to fire and keep the rocket attacks up. IDF going to respond. Hamas handed Israel this tragedy by giving them the green light by attacking first. Now everyone appalled by the responses.

America - what it doesn't understand it tends to want shoot."

We not involved are we. Where is precious NATO atm. Why is there no intervention from the world community. I don't see UK rushing troops there to bolster Hamas against the IDF. Ask yourself why.

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By *atEvolutionCouple  over a year ago

'Merry Christmas'


"Reality of war. Seen worse in realtime. You can be appalled. I am desensitized to violence. Can't help it. This is what religious wars do. Hamas chose to fire and keep the rocket attacks up. IDF going to respond. Hamas handed Israel this tragedy by giving them the green light by attacking first. Now everyone appalled by the responses."

America - what it doesn't understand it tends to want to shoot.

(typo)

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Reality of war. Seen worse in realtime. You can be appalled. I am desensitized to violence. Can't help it. This is what religious wars do. Hamas chose to fire and keep the rocket attacks up. IDF going to respond. Hamas handed Israel this tragedy by giving them the green light by attacking first. Now everyone appalled by the responses.

America - what it doesn't understand it tends to want shoot.

We not involved are we. Where is precious NATO atm. Why is there no intervention from the world community. I don't see UK rushing troops there to bolster Hamas against the IDF. Ask yourself why."

The US supplies and supports Israel with weapons.

The US votes against the UN taking action against Israel, the UK abstains.

No help is coming for Palestine from the international community.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Reality of war. Seen worse in realtime. You can be appalled. I am desensitized to violence. Can't help it. This is what religious wars do. Hamas chose to fire and keep the rocket attacks up. IDF going to respond. Hamas handed Israel this tragedy by giving them the green light by attacking first. Now everyone appalled by the responses.

America - what it doesn't understand it tends to want shoot.

We not involved are we. Where is precious NATO atm. Why is there no intervention from the world community. I don't see UK rushing troops there to bolster Hamas against the IDF. Ask yourself why."

We are too busy selling arms to Saudi

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By *oxychick35Couple  over a year ago

thornaby


"It’s definitely not a good versus evil situation. Those who think it is on either side of this conflict will not have their minds changed."
I agree there some on here who’s minds could never change

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"It’s definitely not a good versus evil situation. Those who think it is on either side of this conflict will not have their minds changed.I agree there some on here who’s minds could never change "

I'll.ask again foxu..in a conflict are both sides equally to blame?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Reality of war. Seen worse in realtime. You can be appalled. I am desensitized to violence. Can't help it. This is what religious wars do. Hamas chose to fire and keep the rocket attacks up. IDF going to respond. Hamas handed Israel this tragedy by giving them the green light by attacking first. Now everyone appalled by the responses.

America - what it doesn't understand it tends to want shoot.

We not involved are we. Where is precious NATO atm. Why is there no intervention from the world community. I don't see UK rushing troops there to bolster Hamas against the IDF. Ask yourself why.

The US supplies and supports Israel with weapons.

The US votes against the UN taking action against Israel, the UK abstains.

No help is coming for Palestine from the international community."

Go it alone then if everybody feels inclined to do so. We did.

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By *oxychick35Couple  over a year ago

thornaby


"It’s definitely not a good versus evil situation. Those who think it is on either side of this conflict will not have their minds changed.I agree there some on here who’s minds could never change

I'll.ask again foxu..in a conflict are both sides equally to blame?"

not always but I can’t see where both sides are coming from Israel are surrounded by countries that want them gone and Pallistine want there land back it will never end no matter which countries get involved the who Middle East is a total fuck up always as been always will be

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Reality of war. Seen worse in realtime. You can be appalled. I am desensitized to violence. Can't help it. This is what religious wars do. Hamas chose to fire and keep the rocket attacks up. IDF going to respond. Hamas handed Israel this tragedy by giving them the green light by attacking first. Now everyone appalled by the responses.

America - what it doesn't understand it tends to want shoot.

We not involved are we. Where is precious NATO atm. Why is there no intervention from the world community. I don't see UK rushing troops there to bolster Hamas against the IDF. Ask yourself why.

The US supplies and supports Israel with weapons.

The US votes against the UN taking action against Israel, the UK abstains.

No help is coming for Palestine from the international community.

Go it alone then if everybody feels inclined to do so. We did. "

That's what they're doing.

I'm not sure the US's historical struggles to gain independence from Britain can really compare to this situation though.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Reality of war. Seen worse in realtime. You can be appalled. I am desensitized to violence. Can't help it. This is what religious wars do. Hamas chose to fire and keep the rocket attacks up. IDF going to respond. Hamas handed Israel this tragedy by giving them the green light by attacking first. Now everyone appalled by the responses.

America - what it doesn't understand it tends to want shoot.

We not involved are we. Where is precious NATO atm. Why is there no intervention from the world community. I don't see UK rushing troops there to bolster Hamas against the IDF. Ask yourself why.

The US supplies and supports Israel with weapons.

The US votes against the UN taking action against Israel, the UK abstains.

No help is coming for Palestine from the international community.

Go it alone then if everybody feels inclined to do so. We did.

That's what they're doing.

I'm not sure the US's historical struggles to gain independence from Britain can really compare to this situation though. "

Your country has the capability to stop it. Now you see what a joke NATO is.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Reality of war. Seen worse in realtime. You can be appalled. I am desensitized to violence. Can't help it. This is what religious wars do. Hamas chose to fire and keep the rocket attacks up. IDF going to respond. Hamas handed Israel this tragedy by giving them the green light by attacking first. Now everyone appalled by the responses.

America - what it doesn't understand it tends to want shoot.

We not involved are we. Where is precious NATO atm. Why is there no intervention from the world community. I don't see UK rushing troops there to bolster Hamas against the IDF. Ask yourself why.

The US supplies and supports Israel with weapons.

The US votes against the UN taking action against Israel, the UK abstains.

No help is coming for Palestine from the international community.

Go it alone then if everybody feels inclined to do so. We did.

That's what they're doing.

I'm not sure the US's historical struggles to gain independence from Britain can really compare to this situation though.

Your country has the capability to stop it. Now you see what a joke NATO is."

The UK abstains from UN votes to help Palestine.

Our government is pathetic.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Reality of war. Seen worse in realtime. You can be appalled. I am desensitized to violence. Can't help it. This is what religious wars do. Hamas chose to fire and keep the rocket attacks up. IDF going to respond. Hamas handed Israel this tragedy by giving them the green light by attacking first. Now everyone appalled by the responses.

America - what it doesn't understand it tends to want shoot.

We not involved are we. Where is precious NATO atm. Why is there no intervention from the world community. I don't see UK rushing troops there to bolster Hamas against the IDF. Ask yourself why.

The US supplies and supports Israel with weapons.

The US votes against the UN taking action against Israel, the UK abstains.

No help is coming for Palestine from the international community.

Go it alone then if everybody feels inclined to do so. We did.

That's what they're doing.

I'm not sure the US's historical struggles to gain independence from Britain can really compare to this situation though.

Your country has the capability to stop it. Now you see what a joke NATO is.

The UK abstains from UN votes to help Palestine.

Our government is pathetic.

"

And when orangeman wanted to exit NATO it's a bad idea

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By *ERRIBLE TWOSUMCouple  over a year ago

Suck mammys strap-on


"I would love to see the conflict stop between those two, sadly I'm very sure it probably never will.

I've read many of the comments in the 1st forum.

Its a bad situation all the way around.

Thankfully, Israel is showing a good bit of restraint, while still trying to get their point across.

Oh, before anyone comments and says, " what restraint is Israel showing ? "

Well, let me remind those people that would ask

such a question. Israel has the capabilities to do

far worse, if they decide to use such measures to

end this conflict.

Let's just hope it doesn't come to that, for

everyones sake !

I'm not sure wiping out an entire state counts as restraint tbh

Is Israel being selective of targets? Hamas is not just blindly launching multiple indiscriminate attacks? They trying to overwhelm the iron dome in hopes that their rockets get through while using civilian population as human shields to cause outrage when their launchers are hit. "

Makes you wonder what these people who throw about lines like "Israel are wiping out an entire state" thinks would happen to Israelis if they said aw fuck it we'll lay down our arms and do what the good Europeans and the UN tell us to do,what's the worst that can happen....there's a bit off an idea if they looked into 1948...pretty sure that was an attempt at wiping out an entire state..but we'll ignore that.

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By *oxychick35Couple  over a year ago

thornaby


"Reality of war. Seen worse in realtime. You can be appalled. I am desensitized to violence. Can't help it. This is what religious wars do. Hamas chose to fire and keep the rocket attacks up. IDF going to respond. Hamas handed Israel this tragedy by giving them the green light by attacking first. Now everyone appalled by the responses.

America - what it doesn't understand it tends to want shoot.

We not involved are we. Where is precious NATO atm. Why is there no intervention from the world community. I don't see UK rushing troops there to bolster Hamas against the IDF. Ask yourself why.

The US supplies and supports Israel with weapons.

The US votes against the UN taking action against Israel, the UK abstains.

No help is coming for Palestine from the international community.

Go it alone then if everybody feels inclined to do so. We did.

That's what they're doing.

I'm not sure the US's historical struggles to gain independence from Britain can really compare to this situation though.

Your country has the capability to stop it. Now you see what a joke NATO is.

The UK abstains from UN votes to help Palestine.

Our government is pathetic.

And when orangeman wanted to exit NATO it's a bad idea "

nato is a joke tho

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Reality of war. Seen worse in realtime. You can be appalled. I am desensitized to violence. Can't help it. This is what religious wars do. Hamas chose to fire and keep the rocket attacks up. IDF going to respond. Hamas handed Israel this tragedy by giving them the green light by attacking first. Now everyone appalled by the responses."

You just seem to thrive on people being killed.

I personally will always be shocked that Humans

Whatever side of the fence you are on ,

Want to sign up to willingly take Life .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Reality of war. Seen worse in realtime. You can be appalled. I am desensitized to violence. Can't help it. This is what religious wars do. Hamas chose to fire and keep the rocket attacks up. IDF going to respond. Hamas handed Israel this tragedy by giving them the green light by attacking first. Now everyone appalled by the responses.

America - what it doesn't understand it tends to want shoot.

We not involved are we. Where is precious NATO atm. Why is there no intervention from the world community. I don't see UK rushing troops there to bolster Hamas against the IDF. Ask yourself why.

The US supplies and supports Israel with weapons.

The US votes against the UN taking action against Israel, the UK abstains.

No help is coming for Palestine from the international community.

Go it alone then if everybody feels inclined to do so. We did.

That's what they're doing.

I'm not sure the US's historical struggles to gain independence from Britain can really compare to this situation though.

Your country has the capability to stop it. Now you see what a joke NATO is.

The UK abstains from UN votes to help Palestine.

Our government is pathetic.

And when orangeman wanted to exit NATO it's a bad idea "

No Orangeman choosing to encourage Israel

To make Jerusalem the Capital of Israel

Is the BAD IDEA !

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By *ebbie69Couple  over a year ago

milton keynes


"Reality of war. Seen worse in realtime. You can be appalled. I am desensitized to violence. Can't help it. This is what religious wars do. Hamas chose to fire and keep the rocket attacks up. IDF going to respond. Hamas handed Israel this tragedy by giving them the green light by attacking first. Now everyone appalled by the responses.

America - what it doesn't understand it tends to want shoot.

We not involved are we. Where is precious NATO atm. Why is there no intervention from the world community. I don't see UK rushing troops there to bolster Hamas against the IDF. Ask yourself why.

The US supplies and supports Israel with weapons.

The US votes against the UN taking action against Israel, the UK abstains.

No help is coming for Palestine from the international community.

Go it alone then if everybody feels inclined to do so. We did.

That's what they're doing.

I'm not sure the US's historical struggles to gain independence from Britain can really compare to this situation though.

Your country has the capability to stop it. Now you see what a joke NATO is.

The UK abstains from UN votes to help Palestine.

Our government is pathetic.

"

Is the UK abstaining in UN votes a recent thing or has it been the case for years

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool

There is footage there of innocent people blown to pieces by the state of Israel, armed most likely by America

And it's been met by whataboutery and ..well they started it.

Thank god we are the good guys

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It’s definitely not a good versus evil situation. Those who think it is on either side of this conflict will not have their minds changed.I agree there some on here who’s minds could never change

I'll.ask again foxu..in a conflict are both sides equally to blame? not always but I can’t see where both sides are coming from Israel are surrounded by countries that want them gone and Pallistine want there land back it will never end no matter which countries get involved the who Middle East is a total fuck up always as been always will be "

Why did Anwar Sadat sign a peace treat ywith Menachem Begin

To try & bring peace to Israel & Egypt ?

The U.S was told to keep its nose out of Israeli buisness

Last year.

A US congress woman told Israel

Stop asking for $4 billion dollars of military aid every year then .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Good to see the Italian dockers refusing to unload

A ship at there docks loaded with arms , headed towards

Israel .

The worlds op8nion is starting to change a little .

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By *ultry SuccubusTV/TS  over a year ago

London

There are countries that campaigned to criminalise war to the UN.

Not sure what was the outcome of that.

Based on earlier discussion/thread, some of us don't support either parties.

We just hope the root of the problem tackled/solved.

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By *abio OP   Man  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Reality of war. Seen worse in realtime. You can be appalled. I am desensitized to violence. Can't help it. This is what religious wars do. Hamas chose to fire and keep the rocket attacks up. IDF going to respond. Hamas handed Israel this tragedy by giving them the green light by attacking first. Now everyone appalled by the responses."

Actually hamas didn’t start this flare up as such….

This flare up started because Jewish people wanted to evict Palestinian residents from an Palestinian neighbourhood in Jerusalem and wanted to clear and claim the land so that more Jewish people could come in…. And they used a clause in Israeli law to do this!

It got to the point where Jewish groups in the neighbourhood started attacking Palestinian neighbours… and it escalated from there….

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By *hetalkingstoveMan  over a year ago

London

Palestinians are basically under apartheid. It's absolutely ludicrous to try and put on a 'both sides are equally bad' spin.

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By *ausageNmashCouple  over a year ago

Andover


"Reality of war. Seen worse in realtime. You can be appalled. I am desensitized to violence. Can't help it. This is what religious wars do. Hamas chose to fire and keep the rocket attacks up. IDF going to respond. Hamas handed Israel this tragedy by giving them the green light by attacking first. Now everyone appalled by the responses."

This

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Reality of war. Seen worse in realtime. You can be appalled. I am desensitized to violence. Can't help it. This is what religious wars do. Hamas chose to fire and keep the rocket attacks up. IDF going to respond. Hamas handed Israel this tragedy by giving them the green light by attacking first. Now everyone appalled by the responses.

This "

Another with very little empathy for Life

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By *ausageNmashCouple  over a year ago

Andover


"Reality of war. Seen worse in realtime. You can be appalled. I am desensitized to violence. Can't help it. This is what religious wars do. Hamas chose to fire and keep the rocket attacks up. IDF going to respond. Hamas handed Israel this tragedy by giving them the green light by attacking first. Now everyone appalled by the responses.

This

Another with very little empathy for Life

"

Really ? ....you don't know us so don't judge

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Reality of war. Seen worse in realtime. You can be appalled. I am desensitized to violence. Can't help it. This is what religious wars do. Hamas chose to fire and keep the rocket attacks up. IDF going to respond. Hamas handed Israel this tragedy by giving them the green light by attacking first. Now everyone appalled by the responses.

This

Another with very little empathy for Life

"

May 14th 1948. There I was empathetic.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Reality of war. Seen worse in realtime. You can be appalled. I am desensitized to violence. Can't help it. This is what religious wars do. Hamas chose to fire and keep the rocket attacks up. IDF going to respond. Hamas handed Israel this tragedy by giving them the green light by attacking first. Now everyone appalled by the responses.

This

Another with very little empathy for Life

May 14th 1948. There I was empathetic."

You are looking good for a 74 year old

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Reality of war. Seen worse in realtime. You can be appalled. I am desensitized to violence. Can't help it. This is what religious wars do. Hamas chose to fire and keep the rocket attacks up. IDF going to respond. Hamas handed Israel this tragedy by giving them the green light by attacking first. Now everyone appalled by the responses.

This

Another with very little empathy for Life

May 14th 1948. There I was empathetic."

Deir Yassin massacre

April 9, 1948, when around 130 fighters from the Far-right wing Zionist paramilitary groups Irgun and Lehi killed at least 107 Palestinian Arabs, including women and children, in Deir Yassin, a village of roughly 600 people near Jerusalem .

Murdering palestinian women & Children for half a century +

It seemed Terrorism paid in the 30s & 40s .

Tragedy for all those killed & those still dying at the hands of those who seem unphased by the taking of life.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Reality of war. Seen worse in realtime. You can be appalled. I am desensitized to violence. Can't help it. This is what religious wars do. Hamas chose to fire and keep the rocket attacks up. IDF going to respond. Hamas handed Israel this tragedy by giving them the green light by attacking first. Now everyone appalled by the responses.

This

Another with very little empathy for Life

May 14th 1948. There I was empathetic.

You are looking good for a 74 year old

"

November 11, 1794,

I doubt they were at that ,

but the ancestors may have been .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Reality of war. Seen worse in realtime. You can be appalled. I am desensitized to violence. Can't help it. This is what religious wars do. Hamas chose to fire and keep the rocket attacks up. IDF going to respond. Hamas handed Israel this tragedy by giving them the green light by attacking first. Now everyone appalled by the responses.

This

Another with very little empathy for Life

May 14th 1948. There I was empathetic.

You are looking good for a 74 year old

November 11, 1794,

I doubt they were at that ,

but the ancestors may have been .

"

No iron dome no conflict no rockets. Kind of redundant.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Reality of war. Seen worse in realtime. You can be appalled. I am desensitized to violence. Can't help it. This is what religious wars do. Hamas chose to fire and keep the rocket attacks up. IDF going to respond. Hamas handed Israel this tragedy by giving them the green light by attacking first. Now everyone appalled by the responses.

This

Another with very little empathy for Life

May 14th 1948. There I was empathetic.

You are looking good for a 74 year old

November 11, 1794,

I doubt they were at that ,

but the ancestors may have been .

No iron dome no conflict no rockets. Kind of redundant."

The Injans would have loved an Iron dome

So may got wiped out it might have helped .

Gawd bless amer-a-kee or some such nonsense .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Reality of war. Seen worse in realtime. You can be appalled. I am desensitized to violence. Can't help it. This is what religious wars do. Hamas chose to fire and keep the rocket attacks up. IDF going to respond. Hamas handed Israel this tragedy by giving them the green light by attacking first. Now everyone appalled by the responses.

This

Another with very little empathy for Life

May 14th 1948. There I was empathetic.

You are looking good for a 74 year old

November 11, 1794,

I doubt they were at that ,

but the ancestors may have been .

No iron dome no conflict no rockets. Kind of redundant.

The Injans would have loved an Iron dome

So may got wiped out it might have helped .

Gawd bless amer-a-kee or some such nonsense .

"

Yup and you can trust media reports blindly. Just like Hamas fighters just did. Maybe they should have fact checked before believing the media machine.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Reality of war. Seen worse in realtime. You can be appalled. I am desensitized to violence. Can't help it. This is what religious wars do. Hamas chose to fire and keep the rocket attacks up. IDF going to respond. Hamas handed Israel this tragedy by giving them the green light by attacking first. Now everyone appalled by the responses.

This

Another with very little empathy for Life

May 14th 1948. There I was empathetic.

You are looking good for a 74 year old

November 11, 1794,

I doubt they were at that ,

but the ancestors may have been .

No iron dome no conflict no rockets. Kind of redundant.

The Injans would have loved an Iron dome

So may got wiped out it might have helped .

Gawd bless amer-a-kee or some such nonsense .

Yup and you can trust media reports blindly. Just like Hamas fighters just did. Maybe they should have fact checked before believing the media machine. "

What are you mumbling on about now ?

You been busy diggin your head into the sand to much

Pumpkins

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

So what is the appropriate response for Israel in your eyes? Sit back under the dome and do nothing? "

1. Negotiate a ceasefire

2. Obay international law to withdraw from the occupied territory seized in the 60s

Problem is that international law isn't being adhered to by isreal, and supported by the usa.

Hypocrisy in action

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

So what is the appropriate response for Israel in your eyes? Sit back under the dome and do nothing?

1. Negotiate a ceasefire

2. Obay international law to withdraw from the occupied territory seized in the 60s

Problem is that international law isn't being adhered to by isreal, and supported by the usa.

Hypocrisy in action

"

And the UK government quit abstaining on NATO votes regarding Israel. Hypocrisy at its finest.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

So what is the appropriate response for Israel in your eyes? Sit back under the dome and do nothing?

1. Negotiate a ceasefire

2. Obay international law to withdraw from the occupied territory seized in the 60s

Problem is that international law isn't being adhered to by isreal, and supported by the usa.

Hypocrisy in action

And the UK government quit abstaining on NATO votes regarding Israel. Hypocrisy at its finest."

Yes those too. Loss of credibility also when condemning Russia taking over the crimea, donbas region.

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By *ERRIBLE TWOSUMCouple  over a year ago

Suck mammys strap-on


"Reality of war. Seen worse in realtime. You can be appalled. I am desensitized to violence. Can't help it. This is what religious wars do. Hamas chose to fire and keep the rocket attacks up. IDF going to respond. Hamas handed Israel this tragedy by giving them the green light by attacking first. Now everyone appalled by the responses.

This

Another with very little empathy for Life

May 14th 1948. There I was empathetic.

Deir Yassin massacre

April 9, 1948, when around 130 fighters from the Far-right wing Zionist paramilitary groups Irgun and Lehi killed at least 107 Palestinian Arabs, including women and children, in Deir Yassin, a village of roughly 600 people near Jerusalem .

Murdering palestinian women & Children for half a century +

It seemed Terrorism paid in the 30s & 40s .

Tragedy for all those killed & those still dying at the hands of those who seem unphased by the taking of life.

"

Maybe you can list some off the many pogroms against Jews across the Middle East,there is plenty to chose from as far back as 1912...or maybe you attended the pro Palestinian protest today in London were the chants off F##K the Jews R##E their daughters could be heard....il go on a limb and guess you'll tell me that's just another peaceful pro Palestinian protest

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool

The fact that there were programs over 100 years ago is completely relevant to israel killing kids in 2021,if you think about it.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool

Are there not rules about personal abuse in here?

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By *ERRIBLE TWOSUMCouple  over a year ago

Suck mammys strap-on


"Are there not rules about personal abuse in here?"
how is that abuse...i guess I have a fourm ban coming.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Reality of war. Seen worse in realtime. You can be appalled. I am desensitized to violence. Can't help it. This is what religious wars do. Hamas chose to fire and keep the rocket attacks up. IDF going to respond. Hamas handed Israel this tragedy by giving them the green light by attacking first. Now everyone appalled by the responses.

This

Another with very little empathy for Life

May 14th 1948. There I was empathetic.

Deir Yassin massacre

April 9, 1948, when around 130 fighters from the Far-right wing Zionist paramilitary groups Irgun and Lehi killed at least 107 Palestinian Arabs, including women and children, in Deir Yassin, a village of roughly 600 people near Jerusalem .

Murdering palestinian women & Children for half a century +

It seemed Terrorism paid in the 30s & 40s .

Tragedy for all those killed & those still dying at the hands of those who seem unphased by the taking of life.

Maybe you can list some off the many pogroms against Jews across the Middle East,there is plenty to chose from as far back as 1912...or maybe you attended the pro Palestinian protest today in London were the chants off F##K the Jews R##E their daughters could be heard....il go on a limb and guess you'll tell me that's just another peaceful pro Palestinian protest "

I can list plenty about the pograms if you need me to.

1821 1881-84 1903 -1906

What was chanted today about Jewish people

was in fact dispicable .

Its as despicable an act as an israeli man interviewd by media

Near to Where an Israeli was killed be a palestinian missile, the man interviewed called for the Israeli Governemnt to wipe out Gaza Completely .

Do you not understand

Killing people is not a deterent .

It just inspired more people to fight & despise

The enemy , whichever side 9f the fence you are on .

It just encourages more to join up to the

abuses caused by humans on humans .

Israeli to Palestinian or Palestinian to Israeli .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I read in the comments above stating that Israel is showing great restraint? They do it because if they push any harder they will be destroyed. Look who is on their borders, and who surround those countries or who ally with Palestine. Some of these are top 20 for Military might

Indonesia 19th

Egypt 12th

Pakistan 11th and nuclear

Turkey 10th

Russia 2nd.

And with a population of around 10 million surounded by countries who don’t support you how long do you think they would last?

So it isn’t restraint on humanitarian grounds for Palestinians, it’s self-preservation

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I read in the comments above stating that Israel is showing great restraint? They do it because if they push any harder they will be destroyed. Look who is on their borders, and who surround those countries or who ally with Palestine. Some of these are top 20 for Military might

Indonesia 19th

Egypt 12th

Pakistan 11th and nuclear

Turkey 10th

Russia 2nd.

And with a population of around 10 million surounded by countries who don’t support you how long do you think they would last?

So it isn’t restraint on humanitarian grounds for Palestinians, it’s self-preservation

"

Was that why Yitzhak Rabin was murdered ?

Because he was close to peace with the PLO ?

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"I read in the comments above stating that Israel is showing great restraint? They do it because if they push any harder they will be destroyed. Look who is on their borders, and who surround those countries or who ally with Palestine. Some of these are top 20 for Military might

Indonesia 19th

Egypt 12th

Pakistan 11th and nuclear

Turkey 10th

Russia 2nd.

And with a population of around 10 million surounded by countries who don’t support you how long do you think they would last?

So it isn’t restraint on humanitarian grounds for Palestinians, it’s self-preservation

"

A dr was killed today in Palestine with 5 of his children

Would you like to explain how that constitutes self preservation?

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By *exy couple128Couple  over a year ago

Scarborough

Got you a present. Two weeks holiday in Palestine.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The fact that there were programs over 100 years ago is completely relevant to israel killing kids in 2021,if you think about it."

UK supported Fatah along with US. Hamas take over everyone is like nah. Because it's a bad idea. Yet Hamas harasses Israel constantly with Iranian support and everything is fine for Hamas let's support Hamas. Hypocrisy. Make your damn minds up.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool

Yep its always amusing to make cracks about kids getting wiped out.

Super lols

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By *exy couple128Couple  over a year ago

Scarborough

Have you got over Hartlepool yet?

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"The fact that there were programs over 100 years ago is completely relevant to israel killing kids in 2021,if you think about it.

UK supported Fatah along with US. Hamas take over everyone is like nah. Because it's a bad idea. Yet Hamas harasses Israel constantly with Iranian support and everything is fine for Hamas let's support Hamas. Hypocrisy. Make your damn minds up. "

Beimg concerned about people being blown to pieces with weapons supplied by the west ,is not really hypocrisy tbh.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I read in the comments above stating that Israel is showing great restraint? They do it because if they push any harder they will be destroyed. Look who is on their borders, and who surround those countries or who ally with Palestine. Some of these are top 20 for Military might

Indonesia 19th

Egypt 12th

Pakistan 11th and nuclear

Turkey 10th

Russia 2nd.

And with a population of around 10 million surounded by countries who don’t support you how long do you think they would last?

So it isn’t restraint on humanitarian grounds for Palestinians, it’s self-preservation

A dr was killed today in Palestine with 5 of his children

Would you like to explain how that constitutes self preservation?"

Israel knows it can kill Palestinians because the world is silent. Where it messed up the most was stun-grenading and firing rubber bullets at Palestinians in Al-Aqsa mosque. That’s what fired up the rest of the world.

To quote Golda Meir former PM of Israel

“When we burnt al-aqsa mosque we did not sleep for fear of being attacked by arab nations, however when the sun rose I knew we could do anything for we are facing nations that are asleep”

Yes human life is precious and should be preserved yet, but what good are niceities if neither side can acknowledge the other?

As someone said above, peace talks took place between Egypt and Israel, how can you have peace without involving the Palestinians?

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Have you got over Hartlepool yet?"

Another relevant post

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"I read in the comments above stating that Israel is showing great restraint? They do it because if they push any harder they will be destroyed. Look who is on their borders, and who surround those countries or who ally with Palestine. Some of these are top 20 for Military might

Indonesia 19th

Egypt 12th

Pakistan 11th and nuclear

Turkey 10th

Russia 2nd.

And with a population of around 10 million surounded by countries who don’t support you how long do you think they would last?

So it isn’t restraint on humanitarian grounds for Palestinians, it’s self-preservation

A dr was killed today in Palestine with 5 of his children

Would you like to explain how that constitutes self preservation?

Israel knows it can kill Palestinians because the world is silent. Where it messed up the most was stun-grenading and firing rubber bullets at Palestinians in Al-Aqsa mosque. That’s what fired up the rest of the world.

To quote Golda Meir former PM of Israel

“When we burnt al-aqsa mosque we did not sleep for fear of being attacked by arab nations, however when the sun rose I knew we could do anything for we are facing nations that are asleep”

Yes human life is precious and should be preserved yet, but what good are niceities if neither side can acknowledge the other?

As someone said above, peace talks took place between Egypt and Israel, how can you have peace without involving the Palestinians?"

Didnt The orange one not invite the Palestinians?

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By *exy couple128Couple  over a year ago

Scarborough

Orange one? That's a bit racist isn't it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The fact that there were programs over 100 years ago is completely relevant to israel killing kids in 2021,if you think about it.

UK supported Fatah along with US. Hamas take over everyone is like nah. Because it's a bad idea. Yet Hamas harasses Israel constantly with Iranian support and everything is fine for Hamas let's support Hamas. Hypocrisy. Make your damn minds up. "

Hamas are elected, whether you agree with them or not they have been chosen by those people. The fact that you mention Hamas and Fatah should tell you that Palestinians don’t have an army or an airforce or a navy, they have a split country with two different governments and no unity (orchestrated by the Israelis in a divide and conquer technique) Hamas was also originally funded by Israel as they thought it would be easier to control and deal with than Fatah or the previous PLO led by Yasser Arafat

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I read in the comments above stating that Israel is showing great restraint? They do it because if they push any harder they will be destroyed. Look who is on their borders, and who surround those countries or who ally with Palestine. Some of these are top 20 for Military might

Indonesia 19th

Egypt 12th

Pakistan 11th and nuclear

Turkey 10th

Russia 2nd.

And with a population of around 10 million surounded by countries who don’t support you how long do you think they would last?

So it isn’t restraint on humanitarian grounds for Palestinians, it’s self-preservation

A dr was killed today in Palestine with 5 of his children

Would you like to explain how that constitutes self preservation?

Israel knows it can kill Palestinians because the world is silent. Where it messed up the most was stun-grenading and firing rubber bullets at Palestinians in Al-Aqsa mosque. That’s what fired up the rest of the world.

To quote Golda Meir former PM of Israel

“When we burnt al-aqsa mosque we did not sleep for fear of being attacked by arab nations, however when the sun rose I knew we could do anything for we are facing nations that are asleep”

Yes human life is precious and should be preserved yet, but what good are niceities if neither side can acknowledge the other?

As someone said above, peace talks took place between Egypt and Israel, how can you have peace without involving the Palestinians?

Didnt The orange one not invite the Palestinians?"

If you find a source for that I will be amazed. All I saw were other Arab nations agreeing to a peace deal, but no one Palestinian at the table

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By *ERRIBLE TWOSUMCouple  over a year ago

Suck mammys strap-on


"Orange one? That's a bit racist isn't it."

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By *estriancdtopTV/TS  over a year ago

chester

Not a pissed as biden is !

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Orange one? That's a bit racist isn't it."

No because people with a tan are not a race

Happy to help

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"I read in the comments above stating that Israel is showing great restraint? They do it because if they push any harder they will be destroyed. Look who is on their borders, and who surround those countries or who ally with Palestine. Some of these are top 20 for Military might

Indonesia 19th

Egypt 12th

Pakistan 11th and nuclear

Turkey 10th

Russia 2nd.

And with a population of around 10 million surounded by countries who don’t support you how long do you think they would last?

So it isn’t restraint on humanitarian grounds for Palestinians, it’s self-preservation

A dr was killed today in Palestine with 5 of his children

Would you like to explain how that constitutes self preservation?

Israel knows it can kill Palestinians because the world is silent. Where it messed up the most was stun-grenading and firing rubber bullets at Palestinians in Al-Aqsa mosque. That’s what fired up the rest of the world.

To quote Golda Meir former PM of Israel

“When we burnt al-aqsa mosque we did not sleep for fear of being attacked by arab nations, however when the sun rose I knew we could do anything for we are facing nations that are asleep”

Yes human life is precious and should be preserved yet, but what good are niceities if neither side can acknowledge the other?

As someone said above, peace talks took place between Egypt and Israel, how can you have peace without involving the Palestinians?

Didnt The orange one not invite the Palestinians?

If you find a source for that I will be amazed. All I saw were other Arab nations agreeing to a peace deal, but no one Palestinian at the table"

There was a documentary a while ago and I may be mistaken but I thought it said they were not invited?

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By *ERRIBLE TWOSUMCouple  over a year ago

Suck mammys strap-on


"I read in the comments above stating that Israel is showing great restraint? They do it because if they push any harder they will be destroyed. Look who is on their borders, and who surround those countries or who ally with Palestine. Some of these are top 20 for Military might

Indonesia 19th

Egypt 12th

Pakistan 11th and nuclear

Turkey 10th

Russia 2nd.

And with a population of around 10 million surounded by countries who don’t support you how long do you think they would last?

So it isn’t restraint on humanitarian grounds for Palestinians, it’s self-preservation

"

Your on to something with Russia but as for the rest...il go a big no...also Israel has nuclear capabilities so not sure Pakistan is relevant.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I read in the comments above stating that Israel is showing great restraint? They do it because if they push any harder they will be destroyed. Look who is on their borders, and who surround those countries or who ally with Palestine. Some of these are top 20 for Military might

Indonesia 19th

Egypt 12th

Pakistan 11th and nuclear

Turkey 10th

Russia 2nd.

And with a population of around 10 million surounded by countries who don’t support you how long do you think they would last?

So it isn’t restraint on humanitarian grounds for Palestinians, it’s self-preservation

A dr was killed today in Palestine with 5 of his children

Would you like to explain how that constitutes self preservation?

Israel knows it can kill Palestinians because the world is silent. Where it messed up the most was stun-grenading and firing rubber bullets at Palestinians in Al-Aqsa mosque. That’s what fired up the rest of the world.

To quote Golda Meir former PM of Israel

“When we burnt al-aqsa mosque we did not sleep for fear of being attacked by arab nations, however when the sun rose I knew we could do anything for we are facing nations that are asleep”

Yes human life is precious and should be preserved yet, but what good are niceities if neither side can acknowledge the other?

As someone said above, peace talks took place between Egypt and Israel, how can you have peace without involving the Palestinians?

Didnt The orange one not invite the Palestinians?

If you find a source for that I will be amazed. All I saw were other Arab nations agreeing to a peace deal, but no one Palestinian at the table

There was a documentary a while ago and I may be mistaken but I thought it said they were not invited?"

Yeah from what I know the Palestinians were not invited to the peace talks

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I read in the comments above stating that Israel is showing great restraint? They do it because if they push any harder they will be destroyed. Look who is on their borders, and who surround those countries or who ally with Palestine. Some of these are top 20 for Military might

Indonesia 19th

Egypt 12th

Pakistan 11th and nuclear

Turkey 10th

Russia 2nd.

And with a population of around 10 million surounded by countries who don’t support you how long do you think they would last?

So it isn’t restraint on humanitarian grounds for Palestinians, it’s self-preservation

A dr was killed today in Palestine with 5 of his children

Would you like to explain how that constitutes self preservation?

Israel knows it can kill Palestinians because the world is silent. Where it messed up the most was stun-grenading and firing rubber bullets at Palestinians in Al-Aqsa mosque. That’s what fired up the rest of the world.

To quote Golda Meir former PM of Israel

“When we burnt al-aqsa mosque we did not sleep for fear of being attacked by arab nations, however when the sun rose I knew we could do anything for we are facing nations that are asleep”

Yes human life is precious and should be preserved yet, but what good are niceities if neither side can acknowledge the other?

As someone said above, peace talks took place between Egypt and Israel, how can you have peace without involving the Palestinians?

Didnt The orange one not invite the Palestinians?

If you find a source for that I will be amazed. All I saw were other Arab nations agreeing to a peace deal, but no one Palestinian at the table

There was a documentary a while ago and I may be mistaken but I thought it said they were not invited?

Yeah from what I know the Palestinians were not invited to the peace talks"

Oslo accords ?

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"I read in the comments above stating that Israel is showing great restraint? They do it because if they push any harder they will be destroyed. Look who is on their borders, and who surround those countries or who ally with Palestine. Some of these are top 20 for Military might

Indonesia 19th

Egypt 12th

Pakistan 11th and nuclear

Turkey 10th

Russia 2nd.

And with a population of around 10 million surounded by countries who don’t support you how long do you think they would last?

So it isn’t restraint on humanitarian grounds for Palestinians, it’s self-preservation

A dr was killed today in Palestine with 5 of his children

Would you like to explain how that constitutes self preservation?

Israel knows it can kill Palestinians because the world is silent. Where it messed up the most was stun-grenading and firing rubber bullets at Palestinians in Al-Aqsa mosque. That’s what fired up the rest of the world.

To quote Golda Meir former PM of Israel

“When we burnt al-aqsa mosque we did not sleep for fear of being attacked by arab nations, however when the sun rose I knew we could do anything for we are facing nations that are asleep”

Yes human life is precious and should be preserved yet, but what good are niceities if neither side can acknowledge the other?

As someone said above, peace talks took place between Egypt and Israel, how can you have peace without involving the Palestinians?

Didnt The orange one not invite the Palestinians?

If you find a source for that I will be amazed. All I saw were other Arab nations agreeing to a peace deal, but no one Palestinian at the table

There was a documentary a while ago and I may be mistaken but I thought it said they were not invited?

Yeah from what I know the Palestinians were not invited to the peace talks

Oslo accords ?"

Nah it was after that.

I think it was when trump visited Saudi and that.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The fact that there were programs over 100 years ago is completely relevant to israel killing kids in 2021,if you think about it.

UK supported Fatah along with US. Hamas take over everyone is like nah. Because it's a bad idea. Yet Hamas harasses Israel constantly with Iranian support and everything is fine for Hamas let's support Hamas. Hypocrisy. Make your damn minds up.

Beimg concerned about people being blown to pieces with weapons supplied by the west ,is not really hypocrisy tbh."

yet weapons supplied from Iranian and other influence even tho it's is outdated an prismatic compared to the latter. Still designed to kill is perfectly fine. Let's Hamas launch thier weapons have no effect. Until Israel runs out of ammo for their defense of thier population. So does Israel sit back and wait for that outcome or go on the offense to prevent that scenario? Technically offense operation is going to save lives than waiting for the inevitable. Like it or not it's a correct military Operation. Strike while you can instead of waiting for the latter carnage.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"The fact that there were programs over 100 years ago is completely relevant to israel killing kids in 2021,if you think about it.

UK supported Fatah along with US. Hamas take over everyone is like nah. Because it's a bad idea. Yet Hamas harasses Israel constantly with Iranian support and everything is fine for Hamas let's support Hamas. Hypocrisy. Make your damn minds up.

Beimg concerned about people being blown to pieces with weapons supplied by the west ,is not really hypocrisy tbh. yet weapons supplied from Iranian and other influence even tho it's is outdated an prismatic compared to the latter. Still designed to kill is perfectly fine. Let's Hamas launch thier weapons have no effect. Until Israel runs out of ammo for their defense of thier population. So does Israel sit back and wait for that outcome or go on the offense to prevent that scenario? Technically offense operation is going to save lives than waiting for the inevitable. Like it or not it's a correct military Operation. Strike while you can instead of waiting for the latter carnage."

Killing children is now considered self defence.

You cant really argue with that.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The fact that there were programs over 100 years ago is completely relevant to israel killing kids in 2021,if you think about it.

UK supported Fatah along with US. Hamas take over everyone is like nah. Because it's a bad idea. Yet Hamas harasses Israel constantly with Iranian support and everything is fine for Hamas let's support Hamas. Hypocrisy. Make your damn minds up.

Beimg concerned about people being blown to pieces with weapons supplied by the west ,is not really hypocrisy tbh. yet weapons supplied from Iranian and other influence even tho it's is outdated an prismatic compared to the latter. Still designed to kill is perfectly fine. Let's Hamas launch thier weapons have no effect. Until Israel runs out of ammo for their defense of thier population. So does Israel sit back and wait for that outcome or go on the offense to prevent that scenario? Technically offense operation is going to save lives than waiting for the inevitable. Like it or not it's a correct military Operation. Strike while you can instead of waiting for the latter carnage.

Killing children is now considered self defence.

You cant really argue with that."

so you saying screw Israel and their iron dome I hope those rockets get through teach the Jews a lesson on what is considered righteousness. Let Hamas have their carnage or respond with force to stop a inevitable situation. Choices it is all yours make it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I read in the comments above stating that Israel is showing great restraint? They do it because if they push any harder they will be destroyed. Look who is on their borders, and who surround those countries or who ally with Palestine. Some of these are top 20 for Military might

Indonesia 19th

Egypt 12th

Pakistan 11th and nuclear

Turkey 10th

Russia 2nd.

And with a population of around 10 million surounded by countries who don’t support you how long do you think they would last?

So it isn’t restraint on humanitarian grounds for Palestinians, it’s self-preservation

A dr was killed today in Palestine with 5 of his children

Would you like to explain how that constitutes self preservation?

Israel knows it can kill Palestinians because the world is silent. Where it messed up the most was stun-grenading and firing rubber bullets at Palestinians in Al-Aqsa mosque. That’s what fired up the rest of the world.

To quote Golda Meir former PM of Israel

“When we burnt al-aqsa mosque we did not sleep for fear of being attacked by arab nations, however when the sun rose I knew we could do anything for we are facing nations that are asleep”

Yes human life is precious and should be preserved yet, but what good are niceities if neither side can acknowledge the other?

As someone said above, peace talks took place between Egypt and Israel, how can you have peace without involving the Palestinians?

Didnt The orange one not invite the Palestinians?

If you find a source for that I will be amazed. All I saw were other Arab nations agreeing to a peace deal, but no one Palestinian at the table

There was a documentary a while ago and I may be mistaken but I thought it said they were not invited?

Yeah from what I know the Palestinians were not invited to the peace talks

Oslo accords ?"

1995 was a while back, and if you look at a map of what palestine was in 1995 and what it has today ( through Gaza, East Jerusalem and the West Bank) can you really say Israel adhered to it?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The fact that there were programs over 100 years ago is completely relevant to israel killing kids in 2021,if you think about it.

UK supported Fatah along with US. Hamas take over everyone is like nah. Because it's a bad idea. Yet Hamas harasses Israel constantly with Iranian support and everything is fine for Hamas let's support Hamas. Hypocrisy. Make your damn minds up.

Beimg concerned about people being blown to pieces with weapons supplied by the west ,is not really hypocrisy tbh. yet weapons supplied from Iranian and other influence even tho it's is outdated an prismatic compared to the latter. Still designed to kill is perfectly fine. Let's Hamas launch thier weapons have no effect. Until Israel runs out of ammo for their defense of thier population. So does Israel sit back and wait for that outcome or go on the offense to prevent that scenario? Technically offense operation is going to save lives than waiting for the inevitable. Like it or not it's a correct military Operation. Strike while you can instead of waiting for the latter carnage.

Killing children is now considered self defence.

You cant really argue with that. so you saying screw Israel and their iron dome I hope those rockets get through teach the Jews a lesson on what is considered righteousness. Let Hamas have their carnage or respond with force to stop a inevitable situation. Choices it is all yours make it."

Or you know, Israel could withdraw to it's 1967 borders, leave the occupied land and peace might occur?

Also stop this idea that a Jew from anywhere in the world can go and settle there yet a Palestinian who has been there for 1000 years can't?

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By *tophateMan  over a year ago

leeds

What crap

More anti Israel ant Jewish racist crap

Why is it the Jewish people are not allowed a free country on there land

But everyone else is

Gaza is Egypt not Israel

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By *tophateMan  over a year ago

leeds

What crap you talk

Only say something if you can back it up with facts not racist lies

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By *tophateMan  over a year ago

leeds

Thank you xxxx

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By *tophateMan  over a year ago

leeds

But the news never says if Israel hit terrorist !!

Fun that !!!

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By *tophateMan  over a year ago

leeds

It’s Jewish land ... fact

Look out Jordan annex to Israel after 1967 in Their peace deal

Facts

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By *tophateMan  over a year ago

leeds

That what Hama is trying to do kill children

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What crap you talk

Only say something if you can back it up with facts not racist lies "

https://www.google.com/search?q=palestine+israel+map&sxsrf=ALeKk01U7G_dcxN5D6QxFjafl2q1VFHrfg:1621206534785&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=73WUeH0c5VDiQM%252Cr5dEbyxYEHnW2M%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kSw_JkTxSSbQfWhTdIcbctwvAvNmQ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjAzPP8qM_wAhUeBmMBHQN5CUoQ9QF6BAgQEAE&biw=1536&bih=754#imgrc=AMd0yrILCsTNwM

facts enough? Just look at that map

look at 3.8 billion dollars of us aid to Israel. Want more facts?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What crap

More anti Israel ant Jewish racist crap

Why is it the Jewish people are not allowed a free country on there land

But everyone else is

Gaza is Egypt not Israel "

what have I said that is anti jewish?

And with 10 million people there now, it's not going anywhere, but to blame Palestinians who live having to use id cards that are colour co-ordinated based on where they are from, who had their media tower destroyed so the world can't hear their voice anymore, whose electric and water are controlled by Israel what do you expect them to do?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What crap

More anti Israel ant Jewish racist crap

Why is it the Jewish people are not allowed a free country on there land

But everyone else is

Gaza is Egypt not Israel "

exactly . People forget Fatah but when Itb comes to the situation right now they are willing and able to let the reign of Hamas and Iranian dictatorship take over. Choices suck I choose the righteousness. Like it or not. My opinion. Guess our governments are completely and udderly stupid to that fact . Trust government you say. They always right unless it does not apply to your world views on a grand scale.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I read in the comments above stating that Israel is showing great restraint? They do it because if they push any harder they will be destroyed. Look who is on their borders, and who surround those countries or who ally with Palestine. Some of these are top 20 for Military might

Indonesia 19th

Egypt 12th

Pakistan 11th and nuclear

Turkey 10th

Russia 2nd.

And with a population of around 10 million surounded by countries who don’t support you how long do you think they would last?

So it isn’t restraint on humanitarian grounds for Palestinians, it’s self-preservation

A dr was killed today in Palestine with 5 of his children

Would you like to explain how that constitutes self preservation?

Israel knows it can kill Palestinians because the world is silent. Where it messed up the most was stun-grenading and firing rubber bullets at Palestinians in Al-Aqsa mosque. That’s what fired up the rest of the world.

To quote Golda Meir former PM of Israel

“When we burnt al-aqsa mosque we did not sleep for fear of being attacked by arab nations, however when the sun rose I knew we could do anything for we are facing nations that are asleep”

Yes human life is precious and should be preserved yet, but what good are niceities if neither side can acknowledge the other?

As someone said above, peace talks took place between Egypt and Israel, how can you have peace without involving the Palestinians?

Didnt The orange one not invite the Palestinians?

If you find a source for that I will be amazed. All I saw were other Arab nations agreeing to a peace deal, but no one Palestinian at the table

There was a documentary a while ago and I may be mistaken but I thought it said they were not invited?

Yeah from what I know the Palestinians were not invited to the peace talks

Oslo accords ?

1995 was a while back, and if you look at a map of what palestine was in 1995 and what it has today ( through Gaza, East Jerusalem and the West Bank) can you really say Israel adhered to it?"

Of course not

As ive said Rabin was assisnated so any hope of

Palestine Israel peace pact is dead in the water .

Please check all my posts before.responding to me thinking

Im anti palestine or indeed anti semetic .

I am anti annihalation of people by violence of

Miltarian organisations be they governmental or not.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What crap

More anti Israel ant Jewish racist crap

Why is it the Jewish people are not allowed a free country on there land

But everyone else is

Gaza is Egypt not Israel "

Israel is not Judea or Canaan !

Know your history

Be it Religious or otherwise .

Bar-Kokhba merged with roman syria to

become palestinian syria.

Moses was birn in the land of Goshen

You need to read your Torah or Old testament

Genesis , Exodus etc .

P.S Goshen = Egypt

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What crap

More anti Israel ant Jewish racist crap

Why is it the Jewish people are not allowed a free country on there land

But everyone else is

Gaza is Egypt not Israel exactly . People forget Fatah but when Itb comes to the situation right now they are willing and able to let the reign of Hamas and Iranian dictatorship take over. Choices suck I choose the righteousness. Like it or not. My opinion. Guess our governments are completely and udderly stupid to that fact . Trust government you say. They always right unless it does not apply to your world views on a grand scale."

Israel isnt theland of David

Goshen was given to the Hebrews & was in Egypt .

Hebron was where Jacob comes from

Hebron is where ?

Palestine .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What crap

More anti Israel ant Jewish racist crap

Why is it the Jewish people are not allowed a free country on there land

But everyone else is

Gaza is Egypt not Israel exactly . People forget Fatah but when Itb comes to the situation right now they are willing and able to let the reign of Hamas and Iranian dictatorship take over. Choices suck I choose the righteousness. Like it or not. My opinion. Guess our governments are completely and udderly stupid to that fact . Trust government you say. They always right unless it does not apply to your world views on a grand scale.

Israel isnt theland of David

Goshen was given to the Hebrews & was in Egypt .

Hebron was where Jacob comes from

Hebron is where ?

Palestine .

"

You called me pumpkin love you my little squash.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What crap

More anti Israel ant Jewish racist crap

Why is it the Jewish people are not allowed a free country on there land

But everyone else is

Gaza is Egypt not Israel exactly . People forget Fatah but when Itb comes to the situation right now they are willing and able to let the reign of Hamas and Iranian dictatorship take over. Choices suck I choose the righteousness. Like it or not. My opinion. Guess our governments are completely and udderly stupid to that fact . Trust government you say. They always right unless it does not apply to your world views on a grand scale.

Israel isnt theland of David

Goshen was given to the Hebrews & was in Egypt .

Hebron was where Jacob comes from

Hebron is where ?

Palestine .

You called me pumpkin love you my little squash. "

I use it purely to be condescending to lesser intellect

Hope you understand now pumpkin !

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"The fact that there were programs over 100 years ago is completely relevant to israel killing kids in 2021,if you think about it.

UK supported Fatah along with US. Hamas take over everyone is like nah. Because it's a bad idea. Yet Hamas harasses Israel constantly with Iranian support and everything is fine for Hamas let's support Hamas. Hypocrisy. Make your damn minds up.

Beimg concerned about people being blown to pieces with weapons supplied by the west ,is not really hypocrisy tbh. yet weapons supplied from Iranian and other influence even tho it's is outdated an prismatic compared to the latter. Still designed to kill is perfectly fine. Let's Hamas launch thier weapons have no effect. Until Israel runs out of ammo for their defense of thier population. So does Israel sit back and wait for that outcome or go on the offense to prevent that scenario? Technically offense operation is going to save lives than waiting for the inevitable. Like it or not it's a correct military Operation. Strike while you can instead of waiting for the latter carnage.

Killing children is now considered self defence.

You cant really argue with that. so you saying screw Israel and their iron dome I hope those rockets get through teach the Jews a lesson on what is considered righteousness. Let Hamas have their carnage or respond with force to stop a inevitable situation. Choices it is all yours make it."

I thought I was going to get mugged the other day so I killed the mugger and everyone they know just ti be in the safe side.

American foreign policy in s nutshell.

I'll ask again as this question never seems to.be mentioned.

Who are the ones bulldozing people out of their homes?

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"What crap

More anti Israel ant Jewish racist crap

Why is it the Jewish people are not allowed a free country on there land

But everyone else is

Gaza is Egypt not Israel "

If you criticise china,does that mean you are a racist?

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