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"What a stupid question! This isn't a football match, its a lose-lose situation, where many people will lose lives. " And yet, there are plenty who pick one side. Or you just choose to ignore that fact? | |||
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"What a stupid question! This isn't a football match, its a lose-lose situation, where many people will lose lives. " Yup And the people who will lose out the most are the ones who don't want anything to do with thier stupid religious wars and politics  | |||
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"So who do you support? " I support the end to the violence. | |||
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"So who do you support? " I support them to stop inflicting pain and suffer on each each other. I support them to return to the time where they lived peacefully together before British involvement. | |||
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"I agree with your comments, but would have to add the Iranian regime who are supplying Hamas with the heavy artillery in an attempt to further destabilise the Middle East at the cost of innocent live are as guilty as the others you identified. " Yes, and the usa for zupplying heavy weapons to Israel | |||
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"Firstly I don’t support the violence from any side but I tend to blame the US for supporting Israel while turning a blind eye to the evictions and land grabbing regime. If France suddenly started evicting people in Kent and moving in French citizens would we sit and say “oh ok we’ll move out”? The Jewish lobbying the US holds too much sway in this horrific mess. "  | |||
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"It's not good and its looks like it going to get worse. I'm not sure anyone is blameless but quite how isreal act they way they do and are somehow painted as the 'good guys'certainly doesnt help." But neither are Hamas the poor put upon innocents they try and portray. As long as they are both trying to be the only ones there at the expense of the other, they are just as bad as one another. | |||
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"It's not good and its looks like it going to get worse. I'm not sure anyone is blameless but quite how isreal act they way they do and are somehow painted as the 'good guys'certainly doesnt help. But neither are Hamas the poor put upon innocents they try and portray. As long as they are both trying to be the only ones there at the expense of the other, they are just as bad as one another." I'm.not sure the comparable death figures would back that up | |||
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"It's not good and its looks like it going to get worse. I'm not sure anyone is blameless but quite how isreal act they way they do and are somehow painted as the 'good guys'certainly doesnt help." I saw your mate Jeremy was at an anti Israel demo in London a couple of days ago.  | |||
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"It's not good and its looks like it going to get worse. I'm not sure anyone is blameless but quite how isreal act they way they do and are somehow painted as the 'good guys'certainly doesnt help. But neither are Hamas the poor put upon innocents they try and portray. As long as they are both trying to be the only ones there at the expense of the other, they are just as bad as one another. I'm.not sure the comparable death figures would back that up" 1 or 100 is irrelevant. Any is too many. | |||
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"I agree with your comments, but would have to add the Iranian regime who are supplying Hamas with the heavy artillery in an attempt to further destabilise the Middle East at the cost of innocent live are as guilty as the others you identified. " Agree with you but I’m thinking the are evening the balance. It’s just adding to the violence but if Israel stopped evicting and respected the Palestinians then the fighting would stop, you would hope. | |||
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"Firstly I don’t support the violence from any side but I tend to blame the US for supporting Israel while turning a blind eye to the evictions and land grabbing regime. If France suddenly started evicting people in Kent and moving in French citizens would we sit and say “oh ok we’ll move out”? The Jewish lobbying the US holds too much sway in this horrific mess. " We support alot of countries including Europe. Here is a novel idea maybe NATO should get involved. We not the only ones exporting arms to Israel. | |||
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"Firstly I don’t support the violence from any side but I tend to blame the US for supporting Israel while turning a blind eye to the evictions and land grabbing regime. If France suddenly started evicting people in Kent and moving in French citizens would we sit and say “oh ok we’ll move out”? The Jewish lobbying the US holds too much sway in this horrific mess. We support alot of countries including Europe. Here is a novel idea maybe NATO should get involved. We not the only ones exporting arms to Israel. " Thats ok then. | |||
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"It's not good and its looks like it going to get worse. I'm not sure anyone is blameless but quite how isreal act they way they do and are somehow painted as the 'good guys'certainly doesnt help.I saw your mate Jeremy was at an anti Israel demo in London a couple of days ago. "The pro Palestinian demo? | |||
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"I have to admit the iron dome is impressive." At $40,000 a missile expensive too. | |||
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"I have to admit the iron dome is impressive. At $40,000 a missile expensive too." After that impressive showing I sure Israel arms industry can offset those costs with exporting that system. | |||
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"It's not good and its looks like it going to get worse. I'm not sure anyone is blameless but quite how isreal act they way they do and are somehow painted as the 'good guys'certainly doesnt help.I saw your mate Jeremy was at an anti Israel demo in London a couple of days ago.
The pro Palestinian demo? "Apparently demonstrating against genocide isnt the done thing | |||
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"What a stupid question! This isn't a football match, its a lose-lose situation, where many people will lose lives. And yet, there are plenty who pick one side. Or you just choose to ignore that fact?" Plenty of people I'd rather not associate with then....no one with any decency would pick sides | |||
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"It's not good and its looks like it going to get worse. I'm not sure anyone is blameless but quite how isreal act they way they do and are somehow painted as the 'good guys'certainly doesnt help.I saw your mate Jeremy was at an anti Israel demo in London a couple of days ago.
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Apparently demonstrating against genocide isnt the done thing"Apparently, | |||
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"I have to admit the iron dome is impressive. At $40,000 a missile expensive too. After that impressive showing I sure Israel arms industry can offset those costs with exporting that system." American system! | |||
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"I have to admit the iron dome is impressive. At $40,000 a missile expensive too. After that impressive showing I sure Israel arms industry can offset those costs with exporting that system." Wow, you see missiles killing people and that is your first thought | |||
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"I have to admit the iron dome is impressive. At $40,000 a missile expensive too. After that impressive showing I sure Israel arms industry can offset those costs with exporting that system. American system!" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Dome Israel made it. | |||
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"I have to admit the iron dome is impressive. At $40,000 a missile expensive too. After that impressive showing I sure Israel arms industry can offset those costs with exporting that system. Wow, you see missiles killing people and that is your first thought " Imagine if they did not have it. Lives were saved because of that defensive system. | |||
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"I have to admit the iron dome is impressive. At $40,000 a missile expensive too. After that impressive showing I sure Israel arms industry can offset those costs with exporting that system. Wow, you see missiles killing people and that is your first thought Imagine if they did not have it. Lives were saved because of that defensive system." Like I said, above, just wow | |||
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"I have to admit the iron dome is impressive. At $40,000 a missile expensive too. After that impressive showing I sure Israel arms industry can offset those costs with exporting that system. Wow, you see missiles killing people and that is your first thought Imagine if they did not have it. Lives were saved because of that defensive system." Yep. If there is one thing isreal of known for..its saving lives | |||
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"Firstly I don’t support the violence from any side but I tend to blame the US for supporting Israel while turning a blind eye to the evictions and land grabbing regime. If France suddenly started evicting people in Kent and moving in French citizens would we sit and say “oh ok we’ll move out”? The Jewish lobbying the US holds too much sway in this horrific mess. We support alot of countries including Europe. Here is a novel idea maybe NATO should get involved. We not the only ones exporting arms to Israel. " US sell $1bn per year in hardware. The UK sells. £100k in ammunition and comms equipment. Not really in the same league. | |||
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"Firstly I don’t support the violence from any side but I tend to blame the US for supporting Israel while turning a blind eye to the evictions and land grabbing regime. If France suddenly started evicting people in Kent and moving in French citizens would we sit and say “oh ok we’ll move out”? The Jewish lobbying the US holds too much sway in this horrific mess. We support alot of countries including Europe. Here is a novel idea maybe NATO should get involved. We not the only ones exporting arms to Israel. US sell $1bn per year in hardware. The UK sells. £100k in ammunition and comms equipment. Not really in the same league." True Most of ours goes to saudi Another great bunch of lads. | |||
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"Firstly I don’t support the violence from any side but I tend to blame the US for supporting Israel while turning a blind eye to the evictions and land grabbing regime. If France suddenly started evicting people in Kent and moving in French citizens would we sit and say “oh ok we’ll move out”? The Jewish lobbying the US holds too much sway in this horrific mess. We support alot of countries including Europe. Here is a novel idea maybe NATO should get involved. We not the only ones exporting arms to Israel. US sell $1bn per year in hardware. The UK sells. £100k in ammunition and comms equipment. Not really in the same league." We also sell UK military hardware and other countries guess we should stop selling those too. You can buy the Chinese versions. | |||
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"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2-m3YNPXuQ&lc=UgwQOnJhmBrnaDEjeJd4AaABAg . How would we feel if people chase us out of our home? Doesn't these people's lives matters as well?" And apparently if you think that isnt cricket..there is something wrong with you? | |||
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"I have to admit the iron dome is impressive. At $40,000 a missile expensive too. After that impressive showing I sure Israel arms industry can offset those costs with exporting that system. Wow, you see missiles killing people and that is your first thought Imagine if they did not have it. Lives were saved because of that defensive system. Yep. If there is one thing isreal of known for..its saving lives " Well, Israel have saved the lives of many LGBTQ+ Palestinian citizens by giving them safe asylum. In Palestine, homosexuality is illegal and is legitimately punishable by torture and execution. | |||
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"Firstly I don’t support the violence from any side but I tend to blame the US for supporting Israel while turning a blind eye to the evictions and land grabbing regime. If France suddenly started evicting people in Kent and moving in French citizens would we sit and say “oh ok we’ll move out”? The Jewish lobbying the US holds too much sway in this horrific mess. We support alot of countries including Europe. Here is a novel idea maybe NATO should get involved. We not the only ones exporting arms to Israel. US sell $1bn per year in hardware. The UK sells. £100k in ammunition and comms equipment. Not really in the same league. We also sell UK military hardware and other countries guess we should stop selling those too. You can buy the Chinese versions." Tbf it's not just the weapons, You fully support a country who have been investigated for war crimes. Not a great look. | |||
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"I have to admit the iron dome is impressive. At $40,000 a missile expensive too. After that impressive showing I sure Israel arms industry can offset those costs with exporting that system. Wow, you see missiles killing people and that is your first thought Imagine if they did not have it. Lives were saved because of that defensive system. Yep. If there is one thing isreal of known for..its saving lives Well, Israel have saved the lives of many LGBTQ+ Palestinian citizens by giving them safe asylum. In Palestine, homosexuality is illegal and is legitimately punishable by torture and execution." Presumably these are not the ones they shoot in the head? | |||
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"I have to admit the iron dome is impressive. At $40,000 a missile expensive too. After that impressive showing I sure Israel arms industry can offset those costs with exporting that system. Wow, you see missiles killing people and that is your first thought Imagine if they did not have it. Lives were saved because of that defensive system. Yep. If there is one thing isreal of known for..its saving lives Well, Israel have saved the lives of many LGBTQ+ Palestinian citizens by giving them safe asylum. In Palestine, homosexuality is illegal and is legitimately punishable by torture and execution." That’s ok then, carry on with killing others with missile strikes | |||
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"I have to admit the iron dome is impressive. At $40,000 a missile expensive too. After that impressive showing I sure Israel arms industry can offset those costs with exporting that system. Wow, you see missiles killing people and that is your first thought Imagine if they did not have it. Lives were saved because of that defensive system. Yep. If there is one thing isreal of known for..its saving lives Well, Israel have saved the lives of many LGBTQ+ Palestinian citizens by giving them safe asylum. In Palestine, homosexuality is illegal and is legitimately punishable by torture and execution. That’s ok then, carry on with killing others with missile strikes " Yep seems fair enough to me. | |||
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"I have to admit the iron dome is impressive. At $40,000 a missile expensive too. After that impressive showing I sure Israel arms industry can offset those costs with exporting that system. Wow, you see missiles killing people and that is your first thought Imagine if they did not have it. Lives were saved because of that defensive system. Yep. If there is one thing isreal of known for..its saving lives Well, Israel have saved the lives of many LGBTQ+ Palestinian citizens by giving them safe asylum. In Palestine, homosexuality is illegal and is legitimately punishable by torture and execution. That’s ok then, carry on with killing others with missile strikes " The Israelis target legitimate military installations only, the Palestinians target residential areas. The non-military death toll is because Palestine sites it's mobile launchers in residential areas whereas Israel doesn't. The Israelis use their rockets to shield their children, the Palestinians use their children to shield their rockets. | |||
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"I have to admit the iron dome is impressive. At $40,000 a missile expensive too. After that impressive showing I sure Israel arms industry can offset those costs with exporting that system. Wow, you see missiles killing people and that is your first thought Imagine if they did not have it. Lives were saved because of that defensive system. Yep. If there is one thing isreal of known for..its saving lives " you said you don’t support one side Lionel but you only criticism is of Israel I’d say you’ve picked ye side mate | |||
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"I have to admit the iron dome is impressive. At $40,000 a missile expensive too. After that impressive showing I sure Israel arms industry can offset those costs with exporting that system. Wow, you see missiles killing people and that is your first thought Imagine if they did not have it. Lives were saved because of that defensive system. Yep. If there is one thing isreal of known for..its saving lives you said you don’t support one side Lionel but you only criticism is of Israel I’d say you’ve picked ye side mate " Both sides should be condemned, if this doesn’t get resolved it will be carnage | |||
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"I have to admit the iron dome is impressive. At $40,000 a missile expensive too. After that impressive showing I sure Israel arms industry can offset those costs with exporting that system. Wow, you see missiles killing people and that is your first thought Imagine if they did not have it. Lives were saved because of that defensive system. Yep. If there is one thing isreal of known for..its saving lives Well, Israel have saved the lives of many LGBTQ+ Palestinian citizens by giving them safe asylum. In Palestine, homosexuality is illegal and is legitimately punishable by torture and execution. That’s ok then, carry on with killing others with missile strikes The Israelis target legitimate military installations only, the Palestinians target residential areas. The non-military death toll is because Palestine sites it's mobile launchers in residential areas whereas Israel doesn't. The Israelis use their rockets to shield their children, the Palestinians use their children to shield their rockets." Apparently a protest is now a legitimate military target https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/15/israeli-forces-shoot-16-palestinian-protesters-at-gaza-frontier | |||
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"I have to admit the iron dome is impressive. At $40,000 a missile expensive too. After that impressive showing I sure Israel arms industry can offset those costs with exporting that system. Wow, you see missiles killing people and that is your first thought Imagine if they did not have it. Lives were saved because of that defensive system. Yep. If there is one thing isreal of known for..its saving lives you said you don’t support one side Lionel but you only criticism is of Israel I’d say you’ve picked ye side mate Both sides should be condemned, if this doesn’t get resolved it will be carnage " Never going to be resolved, we're not going to be able to help the situation, we should stay out of it. Guarantee in two years time they will hand out a few joke Nobel peace prizes on both sides to try and keep a lid on it. Plus ca change, plus la meme chose. | |||
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"I have to admit the iron dome is impressive. At $40,000 a missile expensive too. After that impressive showing I sure Israel arms industry can offset those costs with exporting that system. Wow, you see missiles killing people and that is your first thought Imagine if they did not have it. Lives were saved because of that defensive system. Yep. If there is one thing isreal of known for..its saving lives you said you don’t support one side Lionel but you only criticism is of Israel I’d say you’ve picked ye side mate " Because israel are the ones bulldozing people out of their homes,shooting dead protesters and attacking people in mosques. Hamas are not innocent but do you expect them to just sit there and do nothing.? | |||
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"I have to admit the iron dome is impressive. At $40,000 a missile expensive too. After that impressive showing I sure Israel arms industry can offset those costs with exporting that system. Wow, you see missiles killing people and that is your first thought Imagine if they did not have it. Lives were saved because of that defensive system. Yep. If there is one thing isreal of known for..its saving lives Well, Israel have saved the lives of many LGBTQ+ Palestinian citizens by giving them safe asylum. In Palestine, homosexuality is illegal and is legitimately punishable by torture and execution. That’s ok then, carry on with killing others with missile strikes The Israelis target legitimate military installations only, the Palestinians target residential areas. The non-military death toll is because Palestine sites it's mobile launchers in residential areas whereas Israel doesn't. The Israelis use their rockets to shield their children, the Palestinians use their children to shield their rockets." Hamas rockets have killed 17 Palestinians as they have fallen short of their Israeli targets. | |||
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"I have to admit the iron dome is impressive. At $40,000 a missile expensive too. After that impressive showing I sure Israel arms industry can offset those costs with exporting that system. Wow, you see missiles killing people and that is your first thought Imagine if they did not have it. Lives were saved because of that defensive system. Yep. If there is one thing isreal of known for..its saving lives Well, Israel have saved the lives of many LGBTQ+ Palestinian citizens by giving them safe asylum. In Palestine, homosexuality is illegal and is legitimately punishable by torture and execution. That’s ok then, carry on with killing others with missile strikes The Israelis target legitimate military installations only, the Palestinians target residential areas. The non-military death toll is because Palestine sites it's mobile launchers in residential areas whereas Israel doesn't. The Israelis use their rockets to shield their children, the Palestinians use their children to shield their rockets. Apparently a protest is now a legitimate military target https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/15/israeli-forces-shoot-16-palestinian-protesters-at-gaza-frontier" When "protesters" throw molotov cocktails and cans of petrol floated on kites over the heads at the security forces, what do you expect them to do? Ask nicely for them to stop? | |||
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"I have to admit the iron dome is impressive. At $40,000 a missile expensive too. After that impressive showing I sure Israel arms industry can offset those costs with exporting that system. Wow, you see missiles killing people and that is your first thought Imagine if they did not have it. Lives were saved because of that defensive system. Yep. If there is one thing isreal of known for..its saving lives Well, Israel have saved the lives of many LGBTQ+ Palestinian citizens by giving them safe asylum. In Palestine, homosexuality is illegal and is legitimately punishable by torture and execution. That’s ok then, carry on with killing others with missile strikes The Israelis target legitimate military installations only, the Palestinians target residential areas. The non-military death toll is because Palestine sites it's mobile launchers in residential areas whereas Israel doesn't. The Israelis use their rockets to shield their children, the Palestinians use their children to shield their rockets. Apparently a protest is now a legitimate military target https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/15/israeli-forces-shoot-16-palestinian-protesters-at-gaza-frontier When "protesters" throw molotov cocktails and cans of petrol floated on kites over the heads at the security forces, what do you expect them to do? Ask nicely for them to stop?" Yeah but it was mostly peaceful | |||
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"I have to admit the iron dome is impressive. At $40,000 a missile expensive too. After that impressive showing I sure Israel arms industry can offset those costs with exporting that system. Wow, you see missiles killing people and that is your first thought Imagine if they did not have it. Lives were saved because of that defensive system. Yep. If there is one thing isreal of known for..its saving lives Well, Israel have saved the lives of many LGBTQ+ Palestinian citizens by giving them safe asylum. In Palestine, homosexuality is illegal and is legitimately punishable by torture and execution. That’s ok then, carry on with killing others with missile strikes The Israelis target legitimate military installations only, the Palestinians target residential areas. The non-military death toll is because Palestine sites it's mobile launchers in residential areas whereas Israel doesn't. The Israelis use their rockets to shield their children, the Palestinians use their children to shield their rockets. Apparently a protest is now a legitimate military target https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/15/israeli-forces-shoot-16-palestinian-protesters-at-gaza-frontier When "protesters" throw molotov cocktails and cans of petrol floated on kites over the heads at the security forces, what do you expect them to do? Ask nicely for them to stop?" https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/02/28/israeli-snipers-targeted-children-health-workers-journalists/amp/ This should be good...were the health workers throwing Bombs too? | |||
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"I have to admit the iron dome is impressive. At $40,000 a missile expensive too. After that impressive showing I sure Israel arms industry can offset those costs with exporting that system. Wow, you see missiles killing people and that is your first thought Imagine if they did not have it. Lives were saved because of that defensive system. Yep. If there is one thing isreal of known for..its saving lives Well, Israel have saved the lives of many LGBTQ+ Palestinian citizens by giving them safe asylum. In Palestine, homosexuality is illegal and is legitimately punishable by torture and execution. That’s ok then, carry on with killing others with missile strikes The Israelis target legitimate military installations only, the Palestinians target residential areas. The non-military death toll is because Palestine sites it's mobile launchers in residential areas whereas Israel doesn't. The Israelis use their rockets to shield their children, the Palestinians use their children to shield their rockets. Apparently a protest is now a legitimate military target https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/15/israeli-forces-shoot-16-palestinian-protesters-at-gaza-frontier When "protesters" throw molotov cocktails and cans of petrol floated on kites over the heads at the security forces, what do you expect them to do? Ask nicely for them to stop?" And by that logic. When a protest turns violent here..we shall except the police to shoot them dead? | |||
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"In Palestine, 11 year old female children are "sold" into marriage to men 5 times their age. Women can be legitimately murdered under the guise of "honour killings" if they transgress from what their male masters consider to be the true path of Islam. Women are denied education and punished if they try. Israel has many notable females - scientists, doctors even Noble prize winners. Even their first female Prime Minister was 6 years before the UK. The Israelis don't want what the Palestinians are selling, who would?" Yep ..that's completely,revelant to the subject in hand. I'll ask again. When a protest turns violent..its ok for the police to indiscriminately open fire? | |||
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"I have to admit the iron dome is impressive. At $40,000 a missile expensive too. After that impressive showing I sure Israel arms industry can offset those costs with exporting that system. Wow, you see missiles killing people and that is your first thought Imagine if they did not have it. Lives were saved because of that defensive system. Yep. If there is one thing isreal of known for..its saving lives Well, Israel have saved the lives of many LGBTQ+ Palestinian citizens by giving them safe asylum. In Palestine, homosexuality is illegal and is legitimately punishable by torture and execution. That’s ok then, carry on with killing others with missile strikes The Israelis target legitimate military installations only, the Palestinians target residential areas. The non-military death toll is because Palestine sites it's mobile launchers in residential areas whereas Israel doesn't. The Israelis use their rockets to shield their children, the Palestinians use their children to shield their rockets. Apparently a protest is now a legitimate military target https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/15/israeli-forces-shoot-16-palestinian-protesters-at-gaza-frontier When "protesters" throw molotov cocktails and cans of petrol floated on kites over the heads at the security forces, what do you expect them to do? Ask nicely for them to stop? And by that logic. When a protest turns violent here..we shall except the police to shoot them dead?" If that violence involves genuine threat of death to those trying to keep order, yes. Have you ever had a petrol bomb thrown at you? Almost impossible to avoid serious harm and/or death in agony. | |||
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"I have to admit the iron dome is impressive. At $40,000 a missile expensive too. After that impressive showing I sure Israel arms industry can offset those costs with exporting that system. Wow, you see missiles killing people and that is your first thought Imagine if they did not have it. Lives were saved because of that defensive system. Yep. If there is one thing isreal of known for..its saving lives Well, Israel have saved the lives of many LGBTQ+ Palestinian citizens by giving them safe asylum. In Palestine, homosexuality is illegal and is legitimately punishable by torture and execution. That’s ok then, carry on with killing others with missile strikes The Israelis target legitimate military installations only, the Palestinians target residential areas. The non-military death toll is because Palestine sites it's mobile launchers in residential areas whereas Israel doesn't. The Israelis use their rockets to shield their children, the Palestinians use their children to shield their rockets. Apparently a protest is now a legitimate military target https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/15/israeli-forces-shoot-16-palestinian-protesters-at-gaza-frontier When "protesters" throw molotov cocktails and cans of petrol floated on kites over the heads at the security forces, what do you expect them to do? Ask nicely for them to stop? And by that logic. When a protest turns violent here..we shall except the police to shoot them dead? If that violence involves genuine threat of death to those trying to keep order, yes. Have you ever had a petrol bomb thrown at you? Almost impossible to avoid serious harm and/or death in agony." No , and neither have you | |||
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"In Palestine, 11 year old female children are "sold" into marriage to men 5 times their age. Women can be legitimately murdered under the guise of "honour killings" if they transgress from what their male masters consider to be the true path of Islam. Women are denied education and punished if they try. Israel has many notable females - scientists, doctors even Noble prize winners. Even their first female Prime Minister was 6 years before the UK. The Israelis don't want what the Palestinians are selling, who would?" ...and how does that justify the attacks? | |||
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"In Palestine, 11 year old female children are "sold" into marriage to men 5 times their age. Women can be legitimately murdered under the guise of "honour killings" if they transgress from what their male masters consider to be the true path of Islam. Women are denied education and punished if they try. Israel has many notable females - scientists, doctors even Noble prize winners. Even their first female Prime Minister was 6 years before the UK. The Israelis don't want what the Palestinians are selling, who would? Yep ..that's completely,revelant to the subject in hand. I'll ask again. When a protest turns violent..its ok for the police to indiscriminately open fire?" Only irrelevant to a die-hard anti-Semitic racist Corbynite. Not to decent people. | |||
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"In Palestine, 11 year old female children are "sold" into marriage to men 5 times their age. Women can be legitimately murdered under the guise of "honour killings" if they transgress from what their male masters consider to be the true path of Islam. Women are denied education and punished if they try. Israel has many notable females - scientists, doctors even Noble prize winners. Even their first female Prime Minister was 6 years before the UK. The Israelis don't want what the Palestinians are selling, who would? ...and how does that justify the attacks?" By attacks, do you mean the over 1000 rockets launched against Israel by Palestine in recent weeks, mainly targeted at residential areas? | |||
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"I have to admit the iron dome is impressive. At $40,000 a missile expensive too. After that impressive showing I sure Israel arms industry can offset those costs with exporting that system. Wow, you see missiles killing people and that is your first thought Imagine if they did not have it. Lives were saved because of that defensive system. Yep. If there is one thing isreal of known for..its saving lives Well, Israel have saved the lives of many LGBTQ+ Palestinian citizens by giving them safe asylum. In Palestine, homosexuality is illegal and is legitimately punishable by torture and execution. That’s ok then, carry on with killing others with missile strikes The Israelis target legitimate military installations only, the Palestinians target residential areas. The non-military death toll is because Palestine sites it's mobile launchers in residential areas whereas Israel doesn't. The Israelis use their rockets to shield their children, the Palestinians use their children to shield their rockets. Apparently a protest is now a legitimate military target https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/15/israeli-forces-shoot-16-palestinian-protesters-at-gaza-frontier When "protesters" throw molotov cocktails and cans of petrol floated on kites over the heads at the security forces, what do you expect them to do? Ask nicely for them to stop? And by that logic. When a protest turns violent here..we shall except the police to shoot them dead? If that violence involves genuine threat of death to those trying to keep order, yes. Have you ever had a petrol bomb thrown at you? Almost impossible to avoid serious harm and/or death in agony." Right just so I know.. so we can fully expect there to be multiple deaths the next time there is trouble in northern Ireland? And for the record As you seemed to ignore it..its fine and dandy for isreal to fire at children,journalists and health workers.? | |||
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"I have to admit the iron dome is impressive. At $40,000 a missile expensive too. After that impressive showing I sure Israel arms industry can offset those costs with exporting that system. Wow, you see missiles killing people and that is your first thought Imagine if they did not have it. Lives were saved because of that defensive system. Yep. If there is one thing isreal of known for..its saving lives Well, Israel have saved the lives of many LGBTQ+ Palestinian citizens by giving them safe asylum. In Palestine, homosexuality is illegal and is legitimately punishable by torture and execution. That’s ok then, carry on with killing others with missile strikes The Israelis target legitimate military installations only, the Palestinians target residential areas. The non-military death toll is because Palestine sites it's mobile launchers in residential areas whereas Israel doesn't. The Israelis use their rockets to shield their children, the Palestinians use their children to shield their rockets. Apparently a protest is now a legitimate military target https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/15/israeli-forces-shoot-16-palestinian-protesters-at-gaza-frontier When "protesters" throw molotov cocktails and cans of petrol floated on kites over the heads at the security forces, what do you expect them to do? Ask nicely for them to stop? And by that logic. When a protest turns violent here..we shall except the police to shoot them dead? If that violence involves genuine threat of death to those trying to keep order, yes. Have you ever had a petrol bomb thrown at you? Almost impossible to avoid serious harm and/or death in agony. No , and neither have you " Oh yes I have big guy - you know nothing about me and where I come from. | |||
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"In Palestine, 11 year old female children are "sold" into marriage to men 5 times their age. Women can be legitimately murdered under the guise of "honour killings" if they transgress from what their male masters consider to be the true path of Islam. Women are denied education and punished if they try. Israel has many notable females - scientists, doctors even Noble prize winners. Even their first female Prime Minister was 6 years before the UK. The Israelis don't want what the Palestinians are selling, who would? Yep ..that's completely,revelant to the subject in hand. I'll ask again. When a protest turns violent..its ok for the police to indiscriminately open fire? Only irrelevant to a die-hard anti-Semitic racist Corbynite. Not to decent people." Standard insult I'm done here | |||
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"I have to admit the iron dome is impressive. At $40,000 a missile expensive too. After that impressive showing I sure Israel arms industry can offset those costs with exporting that system. Wow, you see missiles killing people and that is your first thought Imagine if they did not have it. Lives were saved because of that defensive system. Yep. If there is one thing isreal of known for..its saving lives Well, Israel have saved the lives of many LGBTQ+ Palestinian citizens by giving them safe asylum. In Palestine, homosexuality is illegal and is legitimately punishable by torture and execution. That’s ok then, carry on with killing others with missile strikes The Israelis target legitimate military installations only, the Palestinians target residential areas. The non-military death toll is because Palestine sites it's mobile launchers in residential areas whereas Israel doesn't. The Israelis use their rockets to shield their children, the Palestinians use their children to shield their rockets. Apparently a protest is now a legitimate military target https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/15/israeli-forces-shoot-16-palestinian-protesters-at-gaza-frontier When "protesters" throw molotov cocktails and cans of petrol floated on kites over the heads at the security forces, what do you expect them to do? Ask nicely for them to stop? And by that logic. When a protest turns violent here..we shall except the police to shoot them dead? If that violence involves genuine threat of death to those trying to keep order, yes. Have you ever had a petrol bomb thrown at you? Almost impossible to avoid serious harm and/or death in agony. No , and neither have you Oh yes I have big guy - you know nothing about me and where I come from. " So you say, I have my doubts, | |||
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"I have to admit the iron dome is impressive. At $40,000 a missile expensive too. After that impressive showing I sure Israel arms industry can offset those costs with exporting that system. Wow, you see missiles killing people and that is your first thought Imagine if they did not have it. Lives were saved because of that defensive system. Yep. If there is one thing isreal of known for..its saving lives Well, Israel have saved the lives of many LGBTQ+ Palestinian citizens by giving them safe asylum. In Palestine, homosexuality is illegal and is legitimately punishable by torture and execution. That’s ok then, carry on with killing others with missile strikes The Israelis target legitimate military installations only, the Palestinians target residential areas. The non-military death toll is because Palestine sites it's mobile launchers in residential areas whereas Israel doesn't. The Israelis use their rockets to shield their children, the Palestinians use their children to shield their rockets. Apparently a protest is now a legitimate military target https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/15/israeli-forces-shoot-16-palestinian-protesters-at-gaza-frontier When "protesters" throw molotov cocktails and cans of petrol floated on kites over the heads at the security forces, what do you expect them to do? Ask nicely for them to stop? And by that logic. When a protest turns violent here..we shall except the police to shoot them dead? If that violence involves genuine threat of death to those trying to keep order, yes. Have you ever had a petrol bomb thrown at you? Almost impossible to avoid serious harm and/or death in agony. Right just so I know.. so we can fully expect there to be multiple deaths the next time there is trouble in northern Ireland? And for the record As you seemed to ignore it..its fine and dandy for isreal to fire at children,journalists and health workers.?" It's Israel, not isreal. Is it ok for Palestine to hide their launchers in residential areas? | |||
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"I have to admit the iron dome is impressive. At $40,000 a missile expensive too. After that impressive showing I sure Israel arms industry can offset those costs with exporting that system. Wow, you see missiles killing people and that is your first thought Imagine if they did not have it. Lives were saved because of that defensive system. Yep. If there is one thing isreal of known for..its saving lives Well, Israel have saved the lives of many LGBTQ+ Palestinian citizens by giving them safe asylum. In Palestine, homosexuality is illegal and is legitimately punishable by torture and execution. That’s ok then, carry on with killing others with missile strikes The Israelis target legitimate military installations only, the Palestinians target residential areas. The non-military death toll is because Palestine sites it's mobile launchers in residential areas whereas Israel doesn't. The Israelis use their rockets to shield their children, the Palestinians use their children to shield their rockets. Apparently a protest is now a legitimate military target https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/15/israeli-forces-shoot-16-palestinian-protesters-at-gaza-frontier When "protesters" throw molotov cocktails and cans of petrol floated on kites over the heads at the security forces, what do you expect them to do? Ask nicely for them to stop? And by that logic. When a protest turns violent here..we shall except the police to shoot them dead? If that violence involves genuine threat of death to those trying to keep order, yes. Have you ever had a petrol bomb thrown at you? Almost impossible to avoid serious harm and/or death in agony. No , and neither have you Oh yes I have big guy - you know nothing about me and where I come from. So you say, I have my doubts, " Well, unless you have proof - shut it, and only open it again to cram in more doughnuts, eh? | |||
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"In Palestine, 11 year old female children are "sold" into marriage to men 5 times their age. Women can be legitimately murdered under the guise of "honour killings" if they transgress from what their male masters consider to be the true path of Islam. Women are denied education and punished if they try. Israel has many notable females - scientists, doctors even Noble prize winners. Even their first female Prime Minister was 6 years before the UK. The Israelis don't want what the Palestinians are selling, who would? Yep ..that's completely,revelant to the subject in hand. I'll ask again. When a protest turns violent..its ok for the police to indiscriminately open fire? Only irrelevant to a die-hard anti-Semitic racist Corbynite. Not to decent people." Do you have a hatred of Arabs or the people of Palestine? | |||
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"I have to admit the iron dome is impressive. At $40,000 a missile expensive too. After that impressive showing I sure Israel arms industry can offset those costs with exporting that system. Wow, you see missiles killing people and that is your first thought Imagine if they did not have it. Lives were saved because of that defensive system. Yep. If there is one thing isreal of known for..its saving lives Well, Israel have saved the lives of many LGBTQ+ Palestinian citizens by giving them safe asylum. In Palestine, homosexuality is illegal and is legitimately punishable by torture and execution. That’s ok then, carry on with killing others with missile strikes The Israelis target legitimate military installations only, the Palestinians target residential areas. The non-military death toll is because Palestine sites it's mobile launchers in residential areas whereas Israel doesn't. The Israelis use their rockets to shield their children, the Palestinians use their children to shield their rockets. Apparently a protest is now a legitimate military target https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/15/israeli-forces-shoot-16-palestinian-protesters-at-gaza-frontier When "protesters" throw molotov cocktails and cans of petrol floated on kites over the heads at the security forces, what do you expect them to do? Ask nicely for them to stop? And by that logic. When a protest turns violent here..we shall except the police to shoot them dead? If that violence involves genuine threat of death to those trying to keep order, yes. Have you ever had a petrol bomb thrown at you? Almost impossible to avoid serious harm and/or death in agony. No , and neither have you Oh yes I have big guy - you know nothing about me and where I come from. So you say, I have my doubts, Well, unless you have proof - shut it, and only open it again to cram in more doughnuts, eh?" You have zero proof that it happened, so until then I have my doubts. What is with all the insults? | |||
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" You can twist it any way you like, but you are still an anti-Semitic racist and a Corbynite. What you say has no value on that basis alone." Isn't Palestinians Semites as well? | |||
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" You can twist it any way you like, but you are still an anti-Semitic racist and a Corbynite. What you say has no value on that basis alone. Isn't Palestinians Semites as well? " Aren't (not isn't) | |||
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"Apparently only decent people think it's acceptable to shoot children and if you disagree you are a violent racist. Who knew? You can twist it any way you like, but you are still an anti-Semitic racist and a Corbynite. What you say has no value on that basis alone." Tsk tsk | |||
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"I have to admit the iron dome is impressive. At $40,000 a missile expensive too. After that impressive showing I sure Israel arms industry can offset those costs with exporting that system. Wow, you see missiles killing people and that is your first thought Imagine if they did not have it. Lives were saved because of that defensive system. Yep. If there is one thing isreal of known for..its saving lives you said you don’t support one side Lionel but you only criticism is of Israel I’d say you’ve picked ye side mate Because israel are the ones bulldozing people out of their homes,shooting dead protesters and attacking people in mosques. Hamas are not innocent but do you expect them to just sit there and do nothing.?" well dont say you don’t pick a side when you clearly do and no I don’t expect them to do nothing | |||
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"I have to admit the iron dome is impressive. At $40,000 a missile expensive too. After that impressive showing I sure Israel arms industry can offset those costs with exporting that system. Wow, you see missiles killing people and that is your first thought Imagine if they did not have it. Lives were saved because of that defensive system. Yep. If there is one thing isreal of known for..its saving lives you said you don’t support one side Lionel but you only criticism is of Israel I’d say you’ve picked ye side mate Because israel are the ones bulldozing people out of their homes,shooting dead protesters and attacking people in mosques. Hamas are not innocent but do you expect them to just sit there and do nothing.?well dont say you don’t pick a side when you clearly do and no I don’t expect them to do nothing " Did you miss the bit where I said hamas were not innocent? | |||
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"That corner of the world would be a lot better without the terror group Hamas. You will not have peace with Israel while the population are under the yoke of that group that want nothing more than Genocide themselves. You will not have peace with Gaza unless Israel gives up its settlement “rights”. Remember that Egypt is also blockading Gaza as well. The best thing would be to bulldoze the entirety of Jerusalem flat and turn it into a car park. Be nothing to fight over then. " And then Sunni Shia wars break out over the territory. | |||
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"I have to admit the iron dome is impressive. At $40,000 a missile expensive too. After that impressive showing I sure Israel arms industry can offset those costs with exporting that system. Wow, you see missiles killing people and that is your first thought Imagine if they did not have it. Lives were saved because of that defensive system. Yep. If there is one thing isreal of known for..its saving lives Well, Israel have saved the lives of many LGBTQ+ Palestinian citizens by giving them safe asylum. In Palestine, homosexuality is illegal and is legitimately punishable by torture and execution. That’s ok then, carry on with killing others with missile strikes " like Hamas does.....or do you think the missiles hamas launch are love letters...just curious | |||
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"I have to admit the iron dome is impressive. At $40,000 a missile expensive too. After that impressive showing I sure Israel arms industry can offset those costs with exporting that system. Wow, you see missiles killing people and that is your first thought Imagine if they did not have it. Lives were saved because of that defensive system. Yep. If there is one thing isreal of known for..its saving lives Well, Israel have saved the lives of many LGBTQ+ Palestinian citizens by giving them safe asylum. In Palestine, homosexuality is illegal and is legitimately punishable by torture and execution. That’s ok then, carry on with killing others with missile strikes like Hamas does.....or do you think the missiles hamas launch are love letters...just curious " They are both equally horrendous, | |||
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"Apparently only decent people think it's acceptable to shoot children and if you disagree you are a violent racist. Who knew?" I'm guessing you think it only matters when Palestinians die,any Israeli deaths are irrelevant...sure go one step further and admit you think that part off the middle east should be Juden Frie | |||
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"I have to admit the iron dome is impressive. At $40,000 a missile expensive too. After that impressive showing I sure Israel arms industry can offset those costs with exporting that system. Wow, you see missiles killing people and that is your first thought Imagine if they did not have it. Lives were saved because of that defensive system. Yep. If there is one thing isreal of known for..its saving lives you said you don’t support one side Lionel but you only criticism is of Israel I’d say you’ve picked ye side mate Because israel are the ones bulldozing people out of their homes,shooting dead protesters and attacking people in mosques. Hamas are not innocent but do you expect them to just sit there and do nothing.?well dont say you don’t pick a side when you clearly do and no I don’t expect them to do nothing Did you miss the bit where I said hamas were not innocent?" Hamas are not innocent... Israel are doing blah blah blah, time and time again... You see why people think you take a side? Just fucking say you support Hamas and people may actually have a bit of respect for your opinions | |||
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"Apparently only decent people think it's acceptable to shoot children and if you disagree you are a violent racist. Who knew?I'm guessing you think it only matters when Palestinians die,any Israeli deaths are irrelevant...sure go one step further and admit you think that part off the middle east should be Juden Frie " Ha ha ha...lols Are we allowed personal insults now? | |||
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"I have to admit the iron dome is impressive. At $40,000 a missile expensive too. After that impressive showing I sure Israel arms industry can offset those costs with exporting that system. Wow, you see missiles killing people and that is your first thought Imagine if they did not have it. Lives were saved because of that defensive system. Yep. If there is one thing isreal of known for..its saving lives you said you don’t support one side Lionel but you only criticism is of Israel I’d say you’ve picked ye side mate Because israel are the ones bulldozing people out of their homes,shooting dead protesters and attacking people in mosques. Hamas are not innocent but do you expect them to just sit there and do nothing.?well dont say you don’t pick a side when you clearly do and no I don’t expect them to do nothing Did you miss the bit where I said hamas were not innocent? Hamas are not innocent... Israel are doing blah blah blah, time and time again... You see why people think you take a side? Just fucking say you support Hamas and people may actually have a bit of respect for your opinions "Tbh if someone calls me a nazi/racist for saying isreal are being a bit over zealous..I'm not going to lose sleep over their 'respect ' | |||
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"Apparently only decent people think it's acceptable to shoot children and if you disagree you are a violent racist. Who knew?I'm guessing you think it only matters when Palestinians die,any Israeli deaths are irrelevant...sure go one step further and admit you think that part off the middle east should be Juden Frie Ha ha ha...lols Are we allowed personal insults now?" nope not an insult..a question yes,so do you think the lives off one side matter more then the other | |||
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"Apparently only decent people think it's acceptable to shoot children and if you disagree you are a violent racist. Who knew?I'm guessing you think it only matters when Palestinians die,any Israeli deaths are irrelevant...sure go one step further and admit you think that part off the middle east should be Juden Frie Ha ha ha...lols Are we allowed personal insults now?nope not an insult..a question yes,so do you think the lives off one side matter more then the other " Nope I dont. | |||
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"In Palestine, 11 year old female children are "sold" into marriage to men 5 times their age. Women can be legitimately murdered under the guise of "honour killings" if they transgress from what their male masters consider to be the true path of Islam. Women are denied education and punished if they try. Israel has many notable females - scientists, doctors even Noble prize winners. Even their first female Prime Minister was 6 years before the UK. The Israelis don't want what the Palestinians are selling, who would?" Maybe get your own house in order?? A nonprofit called Unchained at Last compiled statistics for marriages from 2000 to 2012. They discovered that in 38 states, more than 167,000 children — almost all of them girls, some as young as 12 — were married during that period, mostly to men 18 or older. It is estimated that the total number of children wed in America between 2000 and 2010 was nearly 248,000. At least 31 percent were married to a spouse age 21 or older, although the actual number is probably higher, as some states did not provide spousal ages. These marriages occurred even in states that have statutory r4pe | |||
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"Smarter people wouldn’t start a fight from the front door of their schools, religious places or cultural centers for fear that the retaliation might effect those very places. Mobile rocket launchers don’t accidentally get positioned in these places. The non combatant Palestinians should be outraged that Hamas chooses their neighborhood to start a fight, knowing that retaliatory strikes will be inevitable. Just imagine if one Hamas multiple launch rocket system exploded without firing one shot and leveled a school it was parked in front of. Would those innocent deaths be the fault of Israel or the fault of the dildo who ordered it to be employed there?" You realise israel are bulldozing people out of their homes? | |||
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""If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more ?violence. If the Jews put ?down their weapons ?today, there would be no? ?more Israel'? Benjamin Netanyahu " So he is ignoring Palestine altogether. Is that as in a state or a Historical place ? | |||
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"I do, and it’s horrible. " I think if a few here listened to Mosab Hassan Yousef they might not see Hamas through the rose tinted glass that has them as some sort off freedom fighters.....proxys for Iran definitely...freedom fighters not so much. | |||
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"I do, and it’s horrible. I think if a few here listened to Mosab Hassan Yousef they might not see Hamas through the rose tinted glass that has them as some sort off freedom fighters.....proxys for Iran definitely...freedom fighters not so much." They are a proxy of Sunni Iran. | |||
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"I have to admit the iron dome is impressive. At $40,000 a missile expensive too. After that impressive showing I sure Israel arms industry can offset those costs with exporting that system. Wow, you see missiles killing people and that is your first thought Imagine if they did not have it. Lives were saved because of that defensive system. Like I said, above, just wow " We she is right. It is indeed an impressive system. just like the Merkava 4 She is also right in the fact it has probably saved tens if not hundreds of lives the last few days from the impact of 1000+ missles. With arround 20% of rockets fired by Hamas actually fall back on Palastine anyway Whats happening is shit, but if it wasn't for the Iron Dome lots more lives would have been lost. But I would guess you dont care about Jew and Arab lives in Israel from your respone | |||
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"I do, and it’s horrible. I think if a few here listened to Mosab Hassan Yousef they might not see Hamas through the rose tinted glass that has them as some sort off freedom fighters.....proxys for Iran definitely...freedom fighters not so much. They are a proxy of Sunni Iran." hench me using the sentence proxys off iran  | |||
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"I have to admit the iron dome is impressive. At $40,000 a missile expensive too. After that impressive showing I sure Israel arms industry can offset those costs with exporting that system. Wow, you see missiles killing people and that is your first thought Imagine if they did not have it. Lives were saved because of that defensive system. Like I said, above, just wow We she is right. It is indeed an impressive system. just like the Merkava 4 She is also right in the fact it has probably saved tens if not hundreds of lives the last few days from the impact of 1000+ missles. With arround 20% of rockets fired by Hamas actually fall back on Palastine anyway Whats happening is shit, but if it wasn't for the Iron Dome lots more lives would have been lost. But I would guess you dont care about Jew and Arab lives in Israel from your respone" You guessed wrong, | |||
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"I have to admit the iron dome is impressive. At $40,000 a missile expensive too. After that impressive showing I sure Israel arms industry can offset those costs with exporting that system. Wow, you see missiles killing people and that is your first thought Imagine if they did not have it. Lives were saved because of that defensive system. Yep. If there is one thing isreal of known for..its saving lives you said you don’t support one side Lionel but you only criticism is of Israel I’d say you’ve picked ye side mate Because israel are the ones bulldozing people out of their homes,shooting dead protesters and attacking people in mosques. Hamas are not innocent but do you expect them to just sit there and do nothing.?well dont say you don’t pick a side when you clearly do and no I don’t expect them to do nothing Did you miss the bit where I said hamas were not innocent?" yer mate seen that but that’s all you did say before all ye Israel posts funny that lol | |||
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" You realise israel are bulldozing people out of their homes?" . I guess it's acceptable as they are fulfilling their biblical prophecies. They have to make space for millions of immigrants coming over the years. . If they protest against the dispossessions, just attack the people praying in the mosques and then put the blame totally on them for retaliating. | |||
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" You realise israel are bulldozing people out of their homes? . I guess it's acceptable as they are fulfilling their biblical prophecies. They have to make space for millions of immigrants coming over the years. . If they protest against the dispossessions, just attack the people praying in the mosques and then put the blame totally on them for retaliating. " Sounds like a plan | |||
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" You realise israel are bulldozing people out of their homes? . I guess it's acceptable as they are fulfilling their biblical prophecies. They have to make space for millions of immigrants coming over the years. . If they protest against the dispossessions, just attack the people praying in the mosques and then put the blame totally on them for retaliating. " sure let's just load all the Jews and send them off to Madagascar,that's bound to make everyone happy | |||
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"What a stupid question! This isn't a football match, its a lose-lose situation, where many people will lose lives. And yet, there are plenty who pick one side. Or you just choose to ignore that fact?" Not people with brains | |||
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"It's not about picking a side. It's about recognising that one side is a people who are being brutalised, having their homes, their livelihoods, their water supply, their food stolen from them daily. Having their villages torn down. Houses that their family have lived in for generations stolen. Living in an open air prison, with virtually no rights, and who occasionally dare to fight back. It's about recognising that one is a brutal, murderous, colonist settler state, brutalising the people of Palestine. It's not a conflict. It's not a war. It's apartheid. It's ethnic cleansing." So your fine with Israel not existing and just let Sharia take over. | |||
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"It's not about picking a side. It's about recognising that one side is a people who are being brutalised, having their homes, their livelihoods, their water supply, their food stolen from them daily. Having their villages torn down. Houses that their family have lived in for generations stolen. Living in an open air prison, with virtually no rights, and who occasionally dare to fight back. It's about recognising that one is a brutal, murderous, colonist settler state, brutalising the people of Palestine. It's not a conflict. It's not a war. It's apartheid. It's ethnic cleansing." Bit confused. You start by saying it's not about choosing sides and then proceed to do just that | |||
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"It's not about picking a side. It's about recognising that one side is a people who are being brutalised, having their homes, their livelihoods, their water supply, their food stolen from them daily. Having their villages torn down. Houses that their family have lived in for generations stolen. Living in an open air prison, with virtually no rights, and who occasionally dare to fight back. It's about recognising that one is a brutal, murderous, colonist settler state, brutalising the people of Palestine. It's not a conflict. It's not a war. It's apartheid. It's ethnic cleansing. Bit confused. You start by saying it's not about choosing sides and then proceed to do just that" Because its possible to say there isnt a good or a bad side but you can clearly state Israel have more on the debit side. | |||
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"It's not about picking a side. It's about recognising that one side is a people who are being brutalised, having their homes, their livelihoods, their water supply, their food stolen from them daily. Having their villages torn down. Houses that their family have lived in for generations stolen. Living in an open air prison, with virtually no rights, and who occasionally dare to fight back. It's about recognising that one is a brutal, murderous, colonist settler state, brutalising the people of Palestine. It's not a conflict. It's not a war. It's apartheid. It's ethnic cleansing. So your fine with Israel not existing and just let Sharia take over." Literally no one on the entire thread has said anything resembling israel shouldnt exist. | |||
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"It's not about picking a side. It's about recognising that one side is a people who are being brutalised, having their homes, their livelihoods, their water supply, their food stolen from them daily. Having their villages torn down. Houses that their family have lived in for generations stolen. Living in an open air prison, with virtually no rights, and who occasionally dare to fight back. It's about recognising that one is a brutal, murderous, colonist settler state, brutalising the people of Palestine. It's not a conflict. It's not a war. It's apartheid. It's ethnic cleansing. Bit confused. You start by saying it's not about choosing sides and then proceed to do just that Because its possible to say there isnt a good or a bad side but you can clearly state Israel have more on the debit side." Well guess that answers my previous question on this thread then from your perspective | |||
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"I'm against any apartheid state" Is Hamas supported by Iran. Yes they are. Aka. Sunni aka. Sharia. So you stating wipe Israel off the map to satisfy more injustice. The colon heights are a critical zone for Israel to secure. Who ever controls the high ground dictates. | |||
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"It's not about picking a side. It's about recognising that one side is a people who are being brutalised, having their homes, their livelihoods, their water supply, their food stolen from them daily. Having their villages torn down. Houses that their family have lived in for generations stolen. Living in an open air prison, with virtually no rights, and who occasionally dare to fight back. It's about recognising that one is a brutal, murderous, colonist settler state, brutalising the people of Palestine. It's not a conflict. It's not a war. It's apartheid. It's ethnic cleansing. Bit confused. You start by saying it's not about choosing sides and then proceed to do just that Because its possible to say there isnt a good or a bad side but you can clearly state Israel have more on the debit side. Well guess that answers my previous question on this thread then from your perspective" What question? | |||
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"I'm against any apartheid state Is Hamas supported by Iran. Yes they are. Aka. Sunni aka. Sharia. So you stating wipe Israel off the map to satisfy more injustice. The colon heights are a critical zone for Israel to secure. Who ever controls the high ground dictates." golon | |||
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"It's not about picking a side. It's about recognising that one side is a people who are being brutalised, having their homes, their livelihoods, their water supply, their food stolen from them daily. Having their villages torn down. Houses that their family have lived in for generations stolen. Living in an open air prison, with virtually no rights, and who occasionally dare to fight back. It's about recognising that one is a brutal, murderous, colonist settler state, brutalising the people of Palestine. It's not a conflict. It's not a war. It's apartheid. It's ethnic cleansing. Bit confused. You start by saying it's not about choosing sides and then proceed to do just that Because its possible to say there isnt a good or a bad side but you can clearly state Israel have more on the debit side. Well guess that answers my previous question on this thread then from your perspective What question? " Little bit up this thread. | |||
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"It's not about picking a side. It's about recognising that one side is a people who are being brutalised, having their homes, their livelihoods, their water supply, their food stolen from them daily. Having their villages torn down. Houses that their family have lived in for generations stolen. Living in an open air prison, with virtually no rights, and who occasionally dare to fight back. It's about recognising that one is a brutal, murderous, colonist settler state, brutalising the people of Palestine. It's not a conflict. It's not a war. It's apartheid. It's ethnic cleansing. Bit confused. You start by saying it's not about choosing sides and then proceed to do just that Because its possible to say there isnt a good or a bad side but you can clearly state Israel have more on the debit side. Well guess that answers my previous question on this thread then from your perspective What question? Little bit up this thread." right raining missle attacks in the name of sharia law is perfectly fine. Israel responds bad Israel. | |||
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"It's not about picking a side. It's about recognising that one side is a people who are being brutalised, having their homes, their livelihoods, their water supply, their food stolen from them daily. Having their villages torn down. Houses that their family have lived in for generations stolen. Living in an open air prison, with virtually no rights, and who occasionally dare to fight back. It's about recognising that one is a brutal, murderous, colonist settler state, brutalising the people of Palestine. It's not a conflict. It's not a war. It's apartheid. It's ethnic cleansing. Bit confused. You start by saying it's not about choosing sides and then proceed to do just that Because its possible to say there isnt a good or a bad side but you can clearly state Israel have more on the debit side. Well guess that answers my previous question on this thread then from your perspective What question? Little bit up this thread." Israel are definitely more.. active..in doing shitty things but who is responsible? I've no idea. | |||
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"It's not about picking a side. It's about recognising that one side is a people who are being brutalised, having their homes, their livelihoods, their water supply, their food stolen from them daily. Having their villages torn down. Houses that their family have lived in for generations stolen. Living in an open air prison, with virtually no rights, and who occasionally dare to fight back. It's about recognising that one is a brutal, murderous, colonist settler state, brutalising the people of Palestine. It's not a conflict. It's not a war. It's apartheid. It's ethnic cleansing. Bit confused. You start by saying it's not about choosing sides and then proceed to do just that" What I'm saying is that you don't pick sides when it's a genocide, or an ethnic cleansing. You stand with the oppressed peoples against the brutal apartheid state. As Mandela said, "our freedom is incomplete without the freedom of the Palestinians." | |||
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"It's not about picking a side. It's about recognising that one side is a people who are being brutalised, having their homes, their livelihoods, their water supply, their food stolen from them daily. Having their villages torn down. Houses that their family have lived in for generations stolen. Living in an open air prison, with virtually no rights, and who occasionally dare to fight back. It's about recognising that one is a brutal, murderous, colonist settler state, brutalising the people of Palestine. It's not a conflict. It's not a war. It's apartheid. It's ethnic cleansing. Bit confused. You start by saying it's not about choosing sides and then proceed to do just that Because its possible to say there isnt a good or a bad side but you can clearly state Israel have more on the debit side. Well guess that answers my previous question on this thread then from your perspective What question? Little bit up this thread. right raining missle attacks in the name of sharia law is perfectly fine. Israel responds bad Israel." Was this after they starting bulldozing people out of their homes and shooting dead protestors? | |||
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"It's not about picking a side. It's about recognising that one side is a people who are being brutalised, having their homes, their livelihoods, their water supply, their food stolen from them daily. Having their villages torn down. Houses that their family have lived in for generations stolen. Living in an open air prison, with virtually no rights, and who occasionally dare to fight back. It's about recognising that one is a brutal, murderous, colonist settler state, brutalising the people of Palestine. It's not a conflict. It's not a war. It's apartheid. It's ethnic cleansing. Bit confused. You start by saying it's not about choosing sides and then proceed to do just that Because its possible to say there isnt a good or a bad side but you can clearly state Israel have more on the debit side. Well guess that answers my previous question on this thread then from your perspective What question? Little bit up this thread. right raining missle attacks in the name of sharia law is perfectly fine. Israel responds bad Israel. Was this after they starting bulldozing people out of their homes and shooting dead protestors?" Is Israel constantly under attack because a religious sect does not like them existing? Security is paramount so are saying nope they should not exist. Let's play this Palestine theory. WHO are controlling Hamas. If you are fine with that your mind is warped. | |||
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"It's not about picking a side. It's about recognising that one side is a people who are being brutalised, having their homes, their livelihoods, their water supply, their food stolen from them daily. Having their villages torn down. Houses that their family have lived in for generations stolen. Living in an open air prison, with virtually no rights, and who occasionally dare to fight back. It's about recognising that one is a brutal, murderous, colonist settler state, brutalising the people of Palestine. It's not a conflict. It's not a war. It's apartheid. It's ethnic cleansing. Bit confused. You start by saying it's not about choosing sides and then proceed to do just that Because its possible to say there isnt a good or a bad side but you can clearly state Israel have more on the debit side. Well guess that answers my previous question on this thread then from your perspective What question? Little bit up this thread. right raining missle attacks in the name of sharia law is perfectly fine. Israel responds bad Israel. Was this after they starting bulldozing people out of their homes and shooting dead protestors? Is Israel constantly under attack because a religious sect does not like them existing? Security is paramount so are saying nope they should not exist. Let's play this Palestine theory. WHO are controlling Hamas. If you are fine with that your mind is warped." I'll ask a simple question. What is the justification in bulldozing people out of their homes? | |||
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"It's not about picking a side. It's about recognising that one side is a people who are being brutalised, having their homes, their livelihoods, their water supply, their food stolen from them daily. Having their villages torn down. Houses that their family have lived in for generations stolen. Living in an open air prison, with virtually no rights, and who occasionally dare to fight back. It's about recognising that one is a brutal, murderous, colonist settler state, brutalising the people of Palestine. It's not a conflict. It's not a war. It's apartheid. It's ethnic cleansing. Bit confused. You start by saying it's not about choosing sides and then proceed to do just that Because its possible to say there isnt a good or a bad side but you can clearly state Israel have more on the debit side. Well guess that answers my previous question on this thread then from your perspective What question? Little bit up this thread. right raining missle attacks in the name of sharia law is perfectly fine. Israel responds bad Israel. Was this after they starting bulldozing people out of their homes and shooting dead protestors? Is Israel constantly under attack because a religious sect does not like them existing? Security is paramount so are saying nope they should not exist. Let's play this Palestine theory. WHO are controlling Hamas. If you are fine with that your mind is warped." Is Israel a colonialist settler state. Are they stealing land, homes, water off the people who have lived there for centuries? Do they shoot protestors in the head. Do they lock up Palestinian children in prisons. Do they shell hospitals, schools, children on the beach? Do the Arabic schools in Israel get only 1/3 of the funding as Israeli schools? Is this an apartheid state in every conceivable way? If you are fine with this your mind is warped. | |||
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"It's not about picking a side. It's about recognising that one side is a people who are being brutalised, having their homes, their livelihoods, their water supply, their food stolen from them daily. Having their villages torn down. Houses that their family have lived in for generations stolen. Living in an open air prison, with virtually no rights, and who occasionally dare to fight back. It's about recognising that one is a brutal, murderous, colonist settler state, brutalising the people of Palestine. It's not a conflict. It's not a war. It's apartheid. It's ethnic cleansing. Bit confused. You start by saying it's not about choosing sides and then proceed to do just that Because its possible to say there isnt a good or a bad side but you can clearly state Israel have more on the debit side. Well guess that answers my previous question on this thread then from your perspective What question? Little bit up this thread. right raining missle attacks in the name of sharia law is perfectly fine. Israel responds bad Israel. Was this after they starting bulldozing people out of their homes and shooting dead protestors? Is Israel constantly under attack because a religious sect does not like them existing? Security is paramount so are saying nope they should not exist. Let's play this Palestine theory. WHO are controlling Hamas. If you are fine with that your mind is warped. Is Israel a colonialist settler state. Are they stealing land, homes, water off the people who have lived there for centuries? Do they shoot protestors in the head. Do they lock up Palestinian children in prisons. Do they shell hospitals, schools, children on the beach? Do the Arabic schools in Israel get only 1/3 of the funding as Israeli schools? Is this an apartheid state in every conceivable way? If you are fine with this your mind is warped." Been to the middle east served along with my husband. Let me know if bacha Bazi is your inclination of what is right. Your so skewed. Tell that to multiple victims I had to dustoff because of a religious belief. | |||
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" You realise israel are bulldozing people out of their homes? . I guess it's acceptable as they are fulfilling their biblical prophecies. They have to make space for millions of immigrants coming over the years. . If they protest against the dispossessions, just attack the people praying in the mosques and then put the blame totally on them for retaliating. sure let's just load all the Jews and send them off to Madagascar,that's bound to make everyone happy "Doesn't make sense. 1. No one says they can't immigrate there. Surely they can just like any immigration. 2. Some people just don't agree the dispossession process. 3. I'm sure, sending them to Madagascar will make the local people there unhappy if they start dispossessing the locals' land as well. | |||
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"It's not about picking a side. It's about recognising that one side is a people who are being brutalised, having their homes, their livelihoods, their water supply, their food stolen from them daily. Having their villages torn down. Houses that their family have lived in for generations stolen. Living in an open air prison, with virtually no rights, and who occasionally dare to fight back. It's about recognising that one is a brutal, murderous, colonist settler state, brutalising the people of Palestine. It's not a conflict. It's not a war. It's apartheid. It's ethnic cleansing. Bit confused. You start by saying it's not about choosing sides and then proceed to do just that Because its possible to say there isnt a good or a bad side but you can clearly state Israel have more on the debit side. Well guess that answers my previous question on this thread then from your perspective What question? Little bit up this thread. right raining missle attacks in the name of sharia law is perfectly fine. Israel responds bad Israel. Was this after they starting bulldozing people out of their homes and shooting dead protestors? Is Israel constantly under attack because a religious sect does not like them existing? Security is paramount so are saying nope they should not exist. Let's play this Palestine theory. WHO are controlling Hamas. If you are fine with that your mind is warped. Is Israel a colonialist settler state. Are they stealing land, homes, water off the people who have lived there for centuries? Do they shoot protestors in the head. Do they lock up Palestinian children in prisons. Do they shell hospitals, schools, children on the beach? Do the Arabic schools in Israel get only 1/3 of the funding as Israeli schools? Is this an apartheid state in every conceivable way? If you are fine with this your mind is warped. Been to the middle east served along with my husband. Let me know if bacha Bazi is your inclination of what is right. Your so skewed. Tell that to multiple victims I had to dustoff because of a religious belief." It's not like you even try to hide your complete racism. Not even worth the debate here if this is the argument you choose to make. Ridiculous. Also, I suppose I should expect that if you've served in imperialist wars in the middle east you'd probably have a soft spot for colonialist settler states. | |||
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"It's not about picking a side. It's about recognising that one side is a people who are being brutalised, having their homes, their livelihoods, their water supply, their food stolen from them daily. Having their villages torn down. Houses that their family have lived in for generations stolen. Living in an open air prison, with virtually no rights, and who occasionally dare to fight back. It's about recognising that one is a brutal, murderous, colonist settler state, brutalising the people of Palestine. It's not a conflict. It's not a war. It's apartheid. It's ethnic cleansing. So your fine with Israel not existing and just let Sharia take over. Literally no one on the entire thread has said anything resembling israel shouldnt exist." . . They have to attack you personally (accusing you of taking sides) to justify agreeing to the attack and in hope that you agree with them. | |||
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"It's not about picking a side. It's about recognising that one side is a people who are being brutalised, having their homes, their livelihoods, their water supply, their food stolen from them daily. Having their villages torn down. Houses that their family have lived in for generations stolen. Living in an open air prison, with virtually no rights, and who occasionally dare to fight back. It's about recognising that one is a brutal, murderous, colonist settler state, brutalising the people of Palestine. It's not a conflict. It's not a war. It's apartheid. It's ethnic cleansing. Bit confused. You start by saying it's not about choosing sides and then proceed to do just that Because its possible to say there isnt a good or a bad side but you can clearly state Israel have more on the debit side. Well guess that answers my previous question on this thread then from your perspective What question? Little bit up this thread. right raining missle attacks in the name of sharia law is perfectly fine. Israel responds bad Israel. Was this after they starting bulldozing people out of their homes and shooting dead protestors? Is Israel constantly under attack because a religious sect does not like them existing? Security is paramount so are saying nope they should not exist. Let's play this Palestine theory. WHO are controlling Hamas. If you are fine with that your mind is warped. Is Israel a colonialist settler state. Are they stealing land, homes, water off the people who have lived there for centuries? Do they shoot protestors in the head. Do they lock up Palestinian children in prisons. Do they shell hospitals, schools, children on the beach? Do the Arabic schools in Israel get only 1/3 of the funding as Israeli schools? Is this an apartheid state in every conceivable way? If you are fine with this your mind is warped. Been to the middle east served along with my husband. Let me know if bacha Bazi is your inclination of what is right. Your so skewed. Tell that to multiple victims I had to dustoff because of a religious belief. It's not like you even try to hide your complete racism. Not even worth the debate here if this is the argument you choose to make. Ridiculous. Also, I suppose I should expect that if you've served in imperialist wars in the middle east you'd probably have a soft spot for colonialist settler states." Aww this is comming from a country with the most imperialism known to mankind. No racism I bleed camoflage just like my sisters and brothers. But I don't expect you to understand what true evil is like I said skewed. Not your fault military intervention is a necessary evil. If you are fine with women buried up to their necks and stoned for minor infractions. Well I choose to be the competent one. | |||
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"It's not about picking a side. It's about recognising that one side is a people who are being brutalised, having their homes, their livelihoods, their water supply, their food stolen from them daily. Having their villages torn down. Houses that their family have lived in for generations stolen. Living in an open air prison, with virtually no rights, and who occasionally dare to fight back. It's about recognising that one is a brutal, murderous, colonist settler state, brutalising the people of Palestine. It's not a conflict. It's not a war. It's apartheid. It's ethnic cleansing. So your fine with Israel not existing and just let Sharia take over. Literally no one on the entire thread has said anything resembling israel shouldnt exist. . . They have to attack you personally (accusing you of taking sides) to justify agreeing to the attack and in hope that you agree with them." Seems to be that way. I remember corbyn getting slated for saying if you criticise israel you are a racist..yet that's exactly where we are. | |||
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"It's not about picking a side. It's about recognising that one side is a people who are being brutalised, having their homes, their livelihoods, their water supply, their food stolen from them daily. Having their villages torn down. Houses that their family have lived in for generations stolen. Living in an open air prison, with virtually no rights, and who occasionally dare to fight back. It's about recognising that one is a brutal, murderous, colonist settler state, brutalising the people of Palestine. It's not a conflict. It's not a war. It's apartheid. It's ethnic cleansing. Bit confused. You start by saying it's not about choosing sides and then proceed to do just that Because its possible to say there isnt a good or a bad side but you can clearly state Israel have more on the debit side. Well guess that answers my previous question on this thread then from your perspective What question? Little bit up this thread. right raining missle attacks in the name of sharia law is perfectly fine. Israel responds bad Israel. Was this after they starting bulldozing people out of their homes and shooting dead protestors? Is Israel constantly under attack because a religious sect does not like them existing? Security is paramount so are saying nope they should not exist. Let's play this Palestine theory. WHO are controlling Hamas. If you are fine with that your mind is warped. Is Israel a colonialist settler state. Are they stealing land, homes, water off the people who have lived there for centuries? Do they shoot protestors in the head. Do they lock up Palestinian children in prisons. Do they shell hospitals, schools, children on the beach? Do the Arabic schools in Israel get only 1/3 of the funding as Israeli schools? Is this an apartheid state in every conceivable way? If you are fine with this your mind is warped. Been to the middle east served along with my husband. Let me know if bacha Bazi is your inclination of what is right. Your so skewed. Tell that to multiple victims I had to dustoff because of a religious belief. It's not like you even try to hide your complete racism. Not even worth the debate here if this is the argument you choose to make. Ridiculous. Also, I suppose I should expect that if you've served in imperialist wars in the middle east you'd probably have a soft spot for colonialist settler states. Aww this is comming from a country with the most imperialism known to mankind. No racism I bleed camoflage just like my sisters and brothers. But I don't expect you to understand what true evil is like I said skewed. Not your fault military intervention is a necessary evil. If you are fine with women buried up to their necks and stoned for minor infractions. Well I choose to be the competent one." The logic doesn't even make sense though. If it were actually humanitarian wars, which you seem to indicate, then why do the US pick and choose? Iran = bad. Except for all those years when you funded and armed them. Afghanistan = bad. Except for all those years that you funded and armed them, and helped to train the muhahadeen. Saudi Arabia (who treat their women horrendously and are bombing civilians in Yemen). They are good are they? US and UK still arming them? The logic doesn't make sense at all. The Palestinian people are being brutalised, murdered, ethnically cleansed from their own lands. How can anybody support this? | |||
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"It's not about picking a side. It's about recognising that one side is a people who are being brutalised, having their homes, their livelihoods, their water supply, their food stolen from them daily. Having their villages torn down. Houses that their family have lived in for generations stolen. Living in an open air prison, with virtually no rights, and who occasionally dare to fight back. It's about recognising that one is a brutal, murderous, colonist settler state, brutalising the people of Palestine. It's not a conflict. It's not a war. It's apartheid. It's ethnic cleansing. Bit confused. You start by saying it's not about choosing sides and then proceed to do just that Because its possible to say there isnt a good or a bad side but you can clearly state Israel have more on the debit side. Well guess that answers my previous question on this thread then from your perspective What question? Little bit up this thread. right raining missle attacks in the name of sharia law is perfectly fine. Israel responds bad Israel. Was this after they starting bulldozing people out of their homes and shooting dead protestors? Is Israel constantly under attack because a religious sect does not like them existing? Security is paramount so are saying nope they should not exist. Let's play this Palestine theory. WHO are controlling Hamas. If you are fine with that your mind is warped. Is Israel a colonialist settler state. Are they stealing land, homes, water off the people who have lived there for centuries? Do they shoot protestors in the head. Do they lock up Palestinian children in prisons. Do they shell hospitals, schools, children on the beach? Do the Arabic schools in Israel get only 1/3 of the funding as Israeli schools? Is this an apartheid state in every conceivable way? If you are fine with this your mind is warped. Been to the middle east served along with my husband. Let me know if bacha Bazi is your inclination of what is right. Your so skewed. Tell that to multiple victims I had to dustoff because of a religious belief. It's not like you even try to hide your complete racism. Not even worth the debate here if this is the argument you choose to make. Ridiculous. Also, I suppose I should expect that if you've served in imperialist wars in the middle east you'd probably have a soft spot for colonialist settler states. Aww this is comming from a country with the most imperialism known to mankind. No racism I bleed camoflage just like my sisters and brothers. But I don't expect you to understand what true evil is like I said skewed. Not your fault military intervention is a necessary evil. If you are fine with women buried up to their necks and stoned for minor infractions. Well I choose to be the competent one." Epic levels of whatabouttery. Israel are shooting protesters dead because of the way women are treated in Palestine. Bizarre. Funny they have attitudes like that to women in Saudi and Britain and America dont seem too bothered about that? | |||
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"It's not about picking a side. It's about recognising that one side is a people who are being brutalised, having their homes, their livelihoods, their water supply, their food stolen from them daily. Having their villages torn down. Houses that their family have lived in for generations stolen. Living in an open air prison, with virtually no rights, and who occasionally dare to fight back. It's about recognising that one is a brutal, murderous, colonist settler state, brutalising the people of Palestine. It's not a conflict. It's not a war. It's apartheid. It's ethnic cleansing. Bit confused. You start by saying it's not about choosing sides and then proceed to do just that Because its possible to say there isnt a good or a bad side but you can clearly state Israel have more on the debit side. Well guess that answers my previous question on this thread then from your perspective What question? Little bit up this thread. right raining missle attacks in the name of sharia law is perfectly fine. Israel responds bad Israel. Was this after they starting bulldozing people out of their homes and shooting dead protestors? Is Israel constantly under attack because a religious sect does not like them existing? Security is paramount so are saying nope they should not exist. Let's play this Palestine theory. WHO are controlling Hamas. If you are fine with that your mind is warped. Is Israel a colonialist settler state. Are they stealing land, homes, water off the people who have lived there for centuries? Do they shoot protestors in the head. Do they lock up Palestinian children in prisons. Do they shell hospitals, schools, children on the beach? Do the Arabic schools in Israel get only 1/3 of the funding as Israeli schools? Is this an apartheid state in every conceivable way? If you are fine with this your mind is warped. Been to the middle east served along with my husband. Let me know if bacha Bazi is your inclination of what is right. Your so skewed. Tell that to multiple victims I had to dustoff because of a religious belief. It's not like you even try to hide your complete racism. Not even worth the debate here if this is the argument you choose to make. Ridiculous. Also, I suppose I should expect that if you've served in imperialist wars in the middle east you'd probably have a soft spot for colonialist settler states. Aww this is comming from a country with the most imperialism known to mankind. No racism I bleed camoflage just like my sisters and brothers. But I don't expect you to understand what true evil is like I said skewed. Not your fault military intervention is a necessary evil. If you are fine with women buried up to their necks and stoned for minor infractions. Well I choose to be the competent one." True Evil ? Allowing guns to be sold legally Even after How many mass School kilings now ? 
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"It's not about picking a side. It's about recognising that one side is a people who are being brutalised, having their homes, their livelihoods, their water supply, their food stolen from them daily. Having their villages torn down. Houses that their family have lived in for generations stolen. Living in an open air prison, with virtually no rights, and who occasionally dare to fight back. It's about recognising that one is a brutal, murderous, colonist settler state, brutalising the people of Palestine. It's not a conflict. It's not a war. It's apartheid. It's ethnic cleansing. Bit confused. You start by saying it's not about choosing sides and then proceed to do just that Because its possible to say there isnt a good or a bad side but you can clearly state Israel have more on the debit side. Well guess that answers my previous question on this thread then from your perspective What question? Little bit up this thread. right raining missle attacks in the name of sharia law is perfectly fine. Israel responds bad Israel. Was this after they starting bulldozing people out of their homes and shooting dead protestors? Is Israel constantly under attack because a religious sect does not like them existing? Security is paramount so are saying nope they should not exist. Let's play this Palestine theory. WHO are controlling Hamas. If you are fine with that your mind is warped. Is Israel a colonialist settler state. Are they stealing land, homes, water off the people who have lived there for centuries? Do they shoot protestors in the head. Do they lock up Palestinian children in prisons. Do they shell hospitals, schools, children on the beach? Do the Arabic schools in Israel get only 1/3 of the funding as Israeli schools? Is this an apartheid state in every conceivable way? If you are fine with this your mind is warped. Been to the middle east served along with my husband. Let me know if bacha Bazi is your inclination of what is right. Your so skewed. Tell that to multiple victims I had to dustoff because of a religious belief. It's not like you even try to hide your complete racism. Not even worth the debate here if this is the argument you choose to make. Ridiculous. Also, I suppose I should expect that if you've served in imperialist wars in the middle east you'd probably have a soft spot for colonialist settler states. Aww this is comming from a country with the most imperialism known to mankind. No racism I bleed camoflage just like my sisters and brothers. But I don't expect you to understand what true evil is like I said skewed. Not your fault military intervention is a necessary evil. If you are fine with women buried up to their necks and stoned for minor infractions. Well I choose to be the competent one. The logic doesn't even make sense though. If it were actually humanitarian wars, which you seem to indicate, then why do the US pick and choose? Iran = bad. Except for all those years when you funded and armed them. Afghanistan = bad. Except for all those years that you funded and armed them, and helped to train the muhahadeen. Saudi Arabia (who treat their women horrendously and are bombing civilians in Yemen). They are good are they? US and UK still arming them? The logic doesn't make sense at all. The Palestinian people are being brutalised, murdered, ethnically cleansed from their own lands. How can anybody support this?"
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"It's not about picking a side. It's about recognising that one side is a people who are being brutalised, having their homes, their livelihoods, their water supply, their food stolen from them daily. Having their villages torn down. Houses that their family have lived in for generations stolen. Living in an open air prison, with virtually no rights, and who occasionally dare to fight back. It's about recognising that one is a brutal, murderous, colonist settler state, brutalising the people of Palestine. It's not a conflict. It's not a war. It's apartheid. It's ethnic cleansing. Bit confused. You start by saying it's not about choosing sides and then proceed to do just that Because its possible to say there isnt a good or a bad side but you can clearly state Israel have more on the debit side. Well guess that answers my previous question on this thread then from your perspective What question? Little bit up this thread. right raining missle attacks in the name of sharia law is perfectly fine. Israel responds bad Israel. Was this after they starting bulldozing people out of their homes and shooting dead protestors? Is Israel constantly under attack because a religious sect does not like them existing? Security is paramount so are saying nope they should not exist. Let's play this Palestine theory. WHO are controlling Hamas. If you are fine with that your mind is warped. Is Israel a colonialist settler state. Are they stealing land, homes, water off the people who have lived there for centuries? Do they shoot protestors in the head. Do they lock up Palestinian children in prisons. Do they shell hospitals, schools, children on the beach? Do the Arabic schools in Israel get only 1/3 of the funding as Israeli schools? Is this an apartheid state in every conceivable way? If you are fine with this your mind is warped. Been to the middle east served along with my husband. Let me know if bacha Bazi is your inclination of what is right. Your so skewed. Tell that to multiple victims I had to dustoff because of a religious belief. It's not like you even try to hide your complete racism. Not even worth the debate here if this is the argument you choose to make. Ridiculous. Also, I suppose I should expect that if you've served in imperialist wars in the middle east you'd probably have a soft spot for colonialist settler states. Aww this is comming from a country with the most imperialism known to mankind. No racism I bleed camoflage just like my sisters and brothers. But I don't expect you to understand what true evil is like I said skewed. Not your fault military intervention is a necessary evil. If you are fine with women buried up to their necks and stoned for minor infractions. Well I choose to be the competent one. The logic doesn't even make sense though. If it were actually humanitarian wars, which you seem to indicate, then why do the US pick and choose? Iran = bad. Except for all those years when you funded and armed them. Afghanistan = bad. Except for all those years that you funded and armed them, and helped to train the muhahadeen. Saudi Arabia (who treat their women horrendously and are bombing civilians in Yemen). They are good are they? US and UK still arming them? The logic doesn't make sense at all. The Palestinian people are being brutalised, murdered, ethnically cleansed from their own lands. How can anybody support this?" I ask again if you are 100 % for Sharia law. Even though Israel is the only democracy hope in the middle east for women children and a better way of life. If you pick the local laws well I not going to hold that against you it is your finality. Hamas is and will be Sharia that's a undestbuted fact. | |||
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"It's not about picking a side. It's about recognising that one side is a people who are being brutalised, having their homes, their livelihoods, their water supply, their food stolen from them daily. Having their villages torn down. Houses that their family have lived in for generations stolen. Living in an open air prison, with virtually no rights, and who occasionally dare to fight back. It's about recognising that one is a brutal, murderous, colonist settler state, brutalising the people of Palestine. It's not a conflict. It's not a war. It's apartheid. It's ethnic cleansing. Bit confused. You start by saying it's not about choosing sides and then proceed to do just that Because its possible to say there isnt a good or a bad side but you can clearly state Israel have more on the debit side. Well guess that answers my previous question on this thread then from your perspective What question? Little bit up this thread. right raining missle attacks in the name of sharia law is perfectly fine. Israel responds bad Israel. Was this after they starting bulldozing people out of their homes and shooting dead protestors? Is Israel constantly under attack because a religious sect does not like them existing? Security is paramount so are saying nope they should not exist. Let's play this Palestine theory. WHO are controlling Hamas. If you are fine with that your mind is warped. Is Israel a colonialist settler state. Are they stealing land, homes, water off the people who have lived there for centuries? Do they shoot protestors in the head. Do they lock up Palestinian children in prisons. Do they shell hospitals, schools, children on the beach? Do the Arabic schools in Israel get only 1/3 of the funding as Israeli schools? Is this an apartheid state in every conceivable way? If you are fine with this your mind is warped. Been to the middle east served along with my husband. Let me know if bacha Bazi is your inclination of what is right. Your so skewed. Tell that to multiple victims I had to dustoff because of a religious belief. It's not like you even try to hide your complete racism. Not even worth the debate here if this is the argument you choose to make. Ridiculous. Also, I suppose I should expect that if you've served in imperialist wars in the middle east you'd probably have a soft spot for colonialist settler states. Aww this is comming from a country with the most imperialism known to mankind. No racism I bleed camoflage just like my sisters and brothers. But I don't expect you to understand what true evil is like I said skewed. Not your fault military intervention is a necessary evil. If you are fine with women buried up to their necks and stoned for minor infractions. Well I choose to be the competent one. The logic doesn't even make sense though. If it were actually humanitarian wars, which you seem to indicate, then why do the US pick and choose? Iran = bad. Except for all those years when you funded and armed them. Afghanistan = bad. Except for all those years that you funded and armed them, and helped to train the muhahadeen. Saudi Arabia (who treat their women horrendously and are bombing civilians in Yemen). They are good are they? US and UK still arming them? The logic doesn't make sense at all. The Palestinian people are being brutalised, murdered, ethnically cleansed from their own lands. How can anybody support this? I ask again if you are 100 % for Sharia law. Even though Israel is the only democracy hope in the middle east for women children and a better way of life. If you pick the local laws well I not going to hold that against you it is your finality. Hamas is and will be Sharia that's a undestbuted fact. " How can you even call Israel a democracy when they don't give Palestinians equal voting rights. Is it any wonder people turn to Hamas when they are put under such attacks for decades and decades. In the same way that people looked to armed struggle through the ANC when faced with apartheid in South Africa, people in Palestine are fighting for their lives and their rights. I stand 100% with them. | |||
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" The Palestinian people are being brutalised, murdered, ethnically cleansed from their own lands. How can anybody support this?
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"It's not about picking a side. It's about recognising that one side is a people who are being brutalised, having their homes, their livelihoods, their water supply, their food stolen from them daily. Having their villages torn down. Houses that their family have lived in for generations stolen. Living in an open air prison, with virtually no rights, and who occasionally dare to fight back. It's about recognising that one is a brutal, murderous, colonist settler state, brutalising the people of Palestine. It's not a conflict. It's not a war. It's apartheid. It's ethnic cleansing. Bit confused. You start by saying it's not about choosing sides and then proceed to do just that Because its possible to say there isnt a good or a bad side but you can clearly state Israel have more on the debit side. Well guess that answers my previous question on this thread then from your perspective What question? Little bit up this thread. right raining missle attacks in the name of sharia law is perfectly fine. Israel responds bad Israel. Was this after they starting bulldozing people out of their homes and shooting dead protestors? Is Israel constantly under attack because a religious sect does not like them existing? Security is paramount so are saying nope they should not exist. Let's play this Palestine theory. WHO are controlling Hamas. If you are fine with that your mind is warped. Is Israel a colonialist settler state. Are they stealing land, homes, water off the people who have lived there for centuries? Do they shoot protestors in the head. Do they lock up Palestinian children in prisons. Do they shell hospitals, schools, children on the beach? Do the Arabic schools in Israel get only 1/3 of the funding as Israeli schools? Is this an apartheid state in every conceivable way? If you are fine with this your mind is warped. Been to the middle east served along with my husband. Let me know if bacha Bazi is your inclination of what is right. Your so skewed. Tell that to multiple victims I had to dustoff because of a religious belief. It's not like you even try to hide your complete racism. Not even worth the debate here if this is the argument you choose to make. Ridiculous. Also, I suppose I should expect that if you've served in imperialist wars in the middle east you'd probably have a soft spot for colonialist settler states. Aww this is comming from a country with the most imperialism known to mankind. No racism I bleed camoflage just like my sisters and brothers. But I don't expect you to understand what true evil is like I said skewed. Not your fault military intervention is a necessary evil. If you are fine with women buried up to their necks and stoned for minor infractions. Well I choose to be the competent one. The logic doesn't even make sense though. If it were actually humanitarian wars, which you seem to indicate, then why do the US pick and choose? Iran = bad. Except for all those years when you funded and armed them. Afghanistan = bad. Except for all those years that you funded and armed them, and helped to train the muhahadeen. Saudi Arabia (who treat their women horrendously and are bombing civilians in Yemen). They are good are they? US and UK still arming them? The logic doesn't make sense at all. The Palestinian people are being brutalised, murdered, ethnically cleansed from their own lands. How can anybody support this? I ask again if you are 100 % for Sharia law. Even though Israel is the only democracy hope in the middle east for women children and a better way of life. If you pick the local laws well I not going to hold that against you it is your finality. Hamas is and will be Sharia that's a undestbuted fact. How can you even call Israel a democracy when they don't give Palestinians equal voting rights. Is it any wonder people turn to Hamas when they are put under such attacks for decades and decades. In the same way that people looked to armed struggle through the ANC when faced with apartheid in South Africa, people in Palestine are fighting for their lives and their rights. I stand 100% with them." Is Israel a democracy ? Who supports Hamas and thier Military wing of Palestine ? If you are fine with not fighting for equality well that is a different issue. But that is just my point of view from being in the middle east. Burkas and all because I had to be politically correct. | |||
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"I have to admit the iron dome is impressive. At $40,000 a missile expensive too. After that impressive showing I sure Israel arms industry can offset those costs with exporting that system. Wow, you see missiles killing people and that is your first thought Imagine if they did not have it. Lives were saved because of that defensive system. Yep. If there is one thing isreal of known for..its saving lives Well, Israel have saved the lives of many LGBTQ+ Palestinian citizens by giving them safe asylum. In Palestine, homosexuality is illegal and is legitimately punishable by torture and execution. That’s ok then, carry on with killing others with missile strikes The Israelis target legitimate military installations only, the Palestinians target residential areas. The non-military death toll is because Palestine sites it's mobile launchers in residential areas whereas Israel doesn't. The Israelis use their rockets to shield their children, the Palestinians use their children to shield their rockets. Apparently a protest is now a legitimate military target https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/15/israeli-forces-shoot-16-palestinian-protesters-at-gaza-frontier When "protesters" throw molotov cocktails and cans of petrol floated on kites over the heads at the security forces, what do you expect them to do? Ask nicely for them to stop? And by that logic. When a protest turns violent here..we shall except the police to shoot them dead? If that violence involves genuine threat of death to those trying to keep order, yes. Have you ever had a petrol bomb thrown at you? Almost impossible to avoid serious harm and/or death in agony. No , and neither have you Oh yes I have big guy - you know nothing about me and where I come from. So you say, I have my doubts, " Quick to judge as usual | |||
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"I have to admit the iron dome is impressive. At $40,000 a missile expensive too. After that impressive showing I sure Israel arms industry can offset those costs with exporting that system. Wow, you see missiles killing people and that is your first thought Imagine if they did not have it. Lives were saved because of that defensive system. Yep. If there is one thing isreal of known for..its saving lives Well, Israel have saved the lives of many LGBTQ+ Palestinian citizens by giving them safe asylum. In Palestine, homosexuality is illegal and is legitimately punishable by torture and execution. That’s ok then, carry on with killing others with missile strikes The Israelis target legitimate military installations only, the Palestinians target residential areas. The non-military death toll is because Palestine sites it's mobile launchers in residential areas whereas Israel doesn't. The Israelis use their rockets to shield their children, the Palestinians use their children to shield their rockets. Apparently a protest is now a legitimate military target https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/15/israeli-forces-shoot-16-palestinian-protesters-at-gaza-frontier When "protesters" throw molotov cocktails and cans of petrol floated on kites over the heads at the security forces, what do you expect them to do? Ask nicely for them to stop? And by that logic. When a protest turns violent here..we shall except the police to shoot them dead? If that violence involves genuine threat of death to those trying to keep order, yes. Have you ever had a petrol bomb thrown at you? Almost impossible to avoid serious harm and/or death in agony. No , and neither have you Oh yes I have big guy - you know nothing about me and where I come from. So you say, I have my doubts, Well, unless you have proof - shut it, and only open it again to cram in more doughnuts, eh? You have zero proof that it happened, so until then I have my doubts. What is with all the insults? " And you have ZERO proof that it didnt | |||
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"Well who supports militarily the armed wing of the Israeli state? A state which poses far more danger to the world than Iran, however oppressive they are. How can you argue it is fighting for equality when what the Israeli state is trying to do is to remove completely the Arab population from their Palestinian lands. Its the strangest form of equality I've seen." Majority is done by Israel we did not develope thier weapons . The merkava the iron dome all Israel. So I guess the F 35s sitting on the UKs newly commissioned aircraft carrier are a perfect example of apartheid involvement. | |||
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"Well who supports militarily the armed wing of the Israeli state? A state which poses far more danger to the world than Iran, however oppressive they are. How can you argue it is fighting for equality when what the Israeli state is trying to do is to remove completely the Arab population from their Palestinian lands. Its the strangest form of equality I've seen. Majority is done by Israel we did not develope thier weapons . The merkava the iron dome all Israel. So I guess the F 35s sitting on the UKs newly commissioned aircraft carrier are a perfect example of apartheid involvement." But it's ok to upgrade challenger tanks to the tune of 800 million. But not Israel sovereign rights to exist. | |||
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"Well who supports militarily the armed wing of the Israeli state? A state which poses far more danger to the world than Iran, however oppressive they are. How can you argue it is fighting for equality when what the Israeli state is trying to do is to remove completely the Arab population from their Palestinian lands. Its the strangest form of equality I've seen. Majority is done by Israel we did not develope thier weapons . The merkava the iron dome all Israel. So I guess the F 35s sitting on the UKs newly commissioned aircraft carrier are a perfect example of apartheid involvement. But it's ok to upgrade challenger tanks to the tune of 800 million. But not Israel sovereign rights to exist." So enjoy that upgrade at your taxpayers expense just to stay competitive in real world conflicts. | |||
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"It's not about picking a side. It's about recognising that one side is a people who are being brutalised, having their homes, their livelihoods, their water supply, their food stolen from them daily. Having their villages torn down. Houses that their family have lived in for generations stolen. Living in an open air prison, with virtually no rights, and who occasionally dare to fight back. It's about recognising that one is a brutal, murderous, colonist settler state, brutalising the people of Palestine. It's not a conflict. It's not a war. It's apartheid. It's ethnic cleansing. Bit confused. You start by saying it's not about choosing sides and then proceed to do just that Because its possible to say there isnt a good or a bad side but you can clearly state Israel have more on the debit side. Well guess that answers my previous question on this thread then from your perspective What question? Little bit up this thread. right raining missle attacks in the name of sharia law is perfectly fine. Israel responds bad Israel. Was this after they starting bulldozing people out of their homes and shooting dead protestors? Is Israel constantly under attack because a religious sect does not like them existing? Security is paramount so are saying nope they should not exist. Let's play this Palestine theory. WHO are controlling Hamas. If you are fine with that your mind is warped. Is Israel a colonialist settler state. Are they stealing land, homes, water off the people who have lived there for centuries? Do they shoot protestors in the head. Do they lock up Palestinian children in prisons. Do they shell hospitals, schools, children on the beach? Do the Arabic schools in Israel get only 1/3 of the funding as Israeli schools? Is this an apartheid state in every conceivable way? If you are fine with this your mind is warped. Been to the middle east served along with my husband. Let me know if bacha Bazi is your inclination of what is right. Your so skewed. Tell that to multiple victims I had to dustoff because of a religious belief. It's not like you even try to hide your complete racism. Not even worth the debate here if this is the argument you choose to make. Ridiculous. Also, I suppose I should expect that if you've served in imperialist wars in the middle east you'd probably have a soft spot for colonialist settler states. Aww this is comming from a country with the most imperialism known to mankind. No racism I bleed camoflage just like my sisters and brothers. But I don't expect you to understand what true evil is like I said skewed. Not your fault military intervention is a necessary evil. If you are fine with women buried up to their necks and stoned for minor infractions. Well I choose to be the competent one. The logic doesn't even make sense though. If it were actually humanitarian wars, which you seem to indicate, then why do the US pick and choose? Iran = bad. Except for all those years when you funded and armed them. Afghanistan = bad. Except for all those years that you funded and armed them, and helped to train the muhahadeen. Saudi Arabia (who treat their women horrendously and are bombing civilians in Yemen). They are good are they? US and UK still arming them? The logic doesn't make sense at all. The Palestinian people are being brutalised, murdered, ethnically cleansed from their own lands. How can anybody support this? I ask again if you are 100 % for Sharia law. Even though Israel is the only democracy hope in the middle east for women children and a better way of life. If you pick the local laws well I not going to hold that against you it is your finality. Hamas is and will be Sharia that's a undestbuted fact. " You know Sharia law is finding out things Like how to bury a child or parent ( maybe after a us built jet has knocked Down a building ) How to borrow money & Own a house . Its not just the " bad stuff " as you might call it America seems happy that out of 119 Palestinians Killed in the last few days 31 were chdrej 19 were women The rest were men young & old . Fortunately Jewish people are not burying close to as many . | |||
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"It's not about picking a side. It's about recognising that one side is a people who are being brutalised, having their homes, their livelihoods, their water supply, their food stolen from them daily. Having their villages torn down. Houses that their family have lived in for generations stolen. Living in an open air prison, with virtually no rights, and who occasionally dare to fight back. It's about recognising that one is a brutal, murderous, colonist settler state, brutalising the people of Palestine. It's not a conflict. It's not a war. It's apartheid. It's ethnic cleansing. Bit confused. You start by saying it's not about choosing sides and then proceed to do just that What I'm saying is that you don't pick sides when it's a genocide, or an ethnic cleansing. You stand with the oppressed peoples against the brutal apartheid state. As Mandela said, "our freedom is incomplete without the freedom of the Palestinians."" By choosing to stand with one side or the other is obviously your right but you are by definition choosing sides. | |||
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"It's not about picking a side. It's about recognising that one side is a people who are being brutalised, having their homes, their livelihoods, their water supply, their food stolen from them daily. Having their villages torn down. Houses that their family have lived in for generations stolen. Living in an open air prison, with virtually no rights, and who occasionally dare to fight back. It's about recognising that one is a brutal, murderous, colonist settler state, brutalising the people of Palestine. It's not a conflict. It's not a war. It's apartheid. It's ethnic cleansing. Bit confused. You start by saying it's not about choosing sides and then proceed to do just that What I'm saying is that you don't pick sides when it's a genocide, or an ethnic cleansing. You stand with the oppressed peoples against the brutal apartheid state. As Mandela said, "our freedom is incomplete without the freedom of the Palestinians." By choosing to stand with one side or the other is obviously your right but you are by definition choosing sides." As Britain did 80 years ago when Jewish People were being Wiped off of the face of the Earth . Why are Israelis on News programs telling its Country to wipe a Country off of the Face of the Earth ? The UN designed a Boarder . That has continuously been ignored . | |||
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"It's not about picking a side. It's about recognising that one side is a people who are being brutalised, having their homes, their livelihoods, their water supply, their food stolen from them daily. Having their villages torn down. Houses that their family have lived in for generations stolen. Living in an open air prison, with virtually no rights, and who occasionally dare to fight back. It's about recognising that one is a brutal, murderous, colonist settler state, brutalising the people of Palestine. It's not a conflict. It's not a war. It's apartheid. It's ethnic cleansing. Bit confused. You start by saying it's not about choosing sides and then proceed to do just that Because its possible to say there isnt a good or a bad side but you can clearly state Israel have more on the debit side. Well guess that answers my previous question on this thread then from your perspective What question? Little bit up this thread. right raining missle attacks in the name of sharia law is perfectly fine. Israel responds bad Israel. Was this after they starting bulldozing people out of their homes and shooting dead protestors? Is Israel constantly under attack because a religious sect does not like them existing? Security is paramount so are saying nope they should not exist. Let's play this Palestine theory. WHO are controlling Hamas. If you are fine with that your mind is warped. Is Israel a colonialist settler state. Are they stealing land, homes, water off the people who have lived there for centuries? Do they shoot protestors in the head. Do they lock up Palestinian children in prisons. Do they shell hospitals, schools, children on the beach? Do the Arabic schools in Israel get only 1/3 of the funding as Israeli schools? Is this an apartheid state in every conceivable way? If you are fine with this your mind is warped. Been to the middle east served along with my husband. Let me know if bacha Bazi is your inclination of what is right. Your so skewed. Tell that to multiple victims I had to dustoff because of a religious belief. It's not like you even try to hide your complete racism. Not even worth the debate here if this is the argument you choose to make. Ridiculous. Also, I suppose I should expect that if you've served in imperialist wars in the middle east you'd probably have a soft spot for colonialist settler states. Aww this is comming from a country with the most imperialism known to mankind. No racism I bleed camoflage just like my sisters and brothers. But I don't expect you to understand what true evil is like I said skewed. Not your fault military intervention is a necessary evil. If you are fine with women buried up to their necks and stoned for minor infractions. Well I choose to be the competent one. The logic doesn't even make sense though. If it were actually humanitarian wars, which you seem to indicate, then why do the US pick and choose? Iran = bad. Except for all those years when you funded and armed them. Afghanistan = bad. Except for all those years that you funded and armed them, and helped to train the muhahadeen. Saudi Arabia (who treat their women horrendously and are bombing civilians in Yemen). They are good are they? US and UK still arming them? The logic doesn't make sense at all. The Palestinian people are being brutalised, murdered, ethnically cleansed from their own lands. How can anybody support this? I ask again if you are 100 % for Sharia law. Even though Israel is the only democracy hope in the middle east for women children and a better way of life. If you pick the local laws well I not going to hold that against you it is your finality. Hamas is and will be Sharia that's a undestbuted fact. You know Sharia law is finding out things Like how to bury a child or parent ( maybe after a us built jet has knocked Down a building ) How to borrow money & Own a house . Its not just the " bad stuff " as you might call it America seems happy that out of 119 Palestinians Killed in the last few days 31 were chdrej 19 were women The rest were men young & old . Fortunately Jewish people are not burying close to as many . " And yet the UK is upgrading everything in their arsenal for what ? Protecting the London bridge ?or a global projection prospect.If you think that upgrading you military hardware is wrong call your politicians and complain. Just like Israel protecting their interests. It is all about protection. | |||
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"It's not about picking a side. It's about recognising that one side is a people who are being brutalised, having their homes, their livelihoods, their water supply, their food stolen from them daily. Having their villages torn down. Houses that their family have lived in for generations stolen. Living in an open air prison, with virtually no rights, and who occasionally dare to fight back. It's about recognising that one is a brutal, murderous, colonist settler state, brutalising the people of Palestine. It's not a conflict. It's not a war. It's apartheid. It's ethnic cleansing. Bit confused. You start by saying it's not about choosing sides and then proceed to do just that Because its possible to say there isnt a good or a bad side but you can clearly state Israel have more on the debit side. Well guess that answers my previous question on this thread then from your perspective What question? Little bit up this thread. right raining missle attacks in the name of sharia law is perfectly fine. Israel responds bad Israel. Was this after they starting bulldozing people out of their homes and shooting dead protestors? Is Israel constantly under attack because a religious sect does not like them existing? Security is paramount so are saying nope they should not exist. Let's play this Palestine theory. WHO are controlling Hamas. If you are fine with that your mind is warped. Is Israel a colonialist settler state. Are they stealing land, homes, water off the people who have lived there for centuries? Do they shoot protestors in the head. Do they lock up Palestinian children in prisons. Do they shell hospitals, schools, children on the beach? Do the Arabic schools in Israel get only 1/3 of the funding as Israeli schools? Is this an apartheid state in every conceivable way? If you are fine with this your mind is warped. Been to the middle east served along with my husband. Let me know if bacha Bazi is your inclination of what is right. Your so skewed. Tell that to multiple victims I had to dustoff because of a religious belief. It's not like you even try to hide your complete racism. Not even worth the debate here if this is the argument you choose to make. Ridiculous. Also, I suppose I should expect that if you've served in imperialist wars in the middle east you'd probably have a soft spot for colonialist settler states. Aww this is comming from a country with the most imperialism known to mankind. No racism I bleed camoflage just like my sisters and brothers. But I don't expect you to understand what true evil is like I said skewed. Not your fault military intervention is a necessary evil. If you are fine with women buried up to their necks and stoned for minor infractions. Well I choose to be the competent one. The logic doesn't even make sense though. If it were actually humanitarian wars, which you seem to indicate, then why do the US pick and choose? Iran = bad. Except for all those years when you funded and armed them. Afghanistan = bad. Except for all those years that you funded and armed them, and helped to train the muhahadeen. Saudi Arabia (who treat their women horrendously and are bombing civilians in Yemen). They are good are they? US and UK still arming them? The logic doesn't make sense at all. The Palestinian people are being brutalised, murdered, ethnically cleansed from their own lands. How can anybody support this? I ask again if you are 100 % for Sharia law. Even though Israel is the only democracy hope in the middle east for women children and a better way of life. If you pick the local laws well I not going to hold that against you it is your finality. Hamas is and will be Sharia that's a undestbuted fact. You know Sharia law is finding out things Like how to bury a child or parent ( maybe after a us built jet has knocked Down a building ) How to borrow money & Own a house . Its not just the " bad stuff " as you might call it America seems happy that out of 119 Palestinians Killed in the last few days 31 were chdrej 19 were women The rest were men young & old . Fortunately Jewish people are not burying close to as many . And yet the UK is upgrading everything in their arsenal for what ? Protecting the London bridge ?or a global projection prospect.If you think that upgrading you military hardware is wrong call your politicians and complain. Just like Israel protecting their interests. It is all about protection." I.dont care about the UK I only live here ! Your Obsession with things that end Life Really is quite bizarre . | |||
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"It's not about picking a side. It's about recognising that one side is a people who are being brutalised, having their homes, their livelihoods, their water supply, their food stolen from them daily. Having their villages torn down. Houses that their family have lived in for generations stolen. Living in an open air prison, with virtually no rights, and who occasionally dare to fight back. It's about recognising that one is a brutal, murderous, colonist settler state, brutalising the people of Palestine. It's not a conflict. It's not a war. It's apartheid. It's ethnic cleansing. Bit confused. You start by saying it's not about choosing sides and then proceed to do just that Because its possible to say there isnt a good or a bad side but you can clearly state Israel have more on the debit side. Well guess that answers my previous question on this thread then from your perspective What question? Little bit up this thread. right raining missle attacks in the name of sharia law is perfectly fine. Israel responds bad Israel. Was this after they starting bulldozing people out of their homes and shooting dead protestors? Is Israel constantly under attack because a religious sect does not like them existing? Security is paramount so are saying nope they should not exist. Let's play this Palestine theory. WHO are controlling Hamas. If you are fine with that your mind is warped. Is Israel a colonialist settler state. Are they stealing land, homes, water off the people who have lived there for centuries? Do they shoot protestors in the head. Do they lock up Palestinian children in prisons. Do they shell hospitals, schools, children on the beach? Do the Arabic schools in Israel get only 1/3 of the funding as Israeli schools? Is this an apartheid state in every conceivable way? If you are fine with this your mind is warped. Been to the middle east served along with my husband. Let me know if bacha Bazi is your inclination of what is right. Your so skewed. Tell that to multiple victims I had to dustoff because of a religious belief. It's not like you even try to hide your complete racism. Not even worth the debate here if this is the argument you choose to make. Ridiculous. Also, I suppose I should expect that if you've served in imperialist wars in the middle east you'd probably have a soft spot for colonialist settler states. Aww this is comming from a country with the most imperialism known to mankind. No racism I bleed camoflage just like my sisters and brothers. But I don't expect you to understand what true evil is like I said skewed. Not your fault military intervention is a necessary evil. If you are fine with women buried up to their necks and stoned for minor infractions. Well I choose to be the competent one. The logic doesn't even make sense though. If it were actually humanitarian wars, which you seem to indicate, then why do the US pick and choose? Iran = bad. Except for all those years when you funded and armed them. Afghanistan = bad. Except for all those years that you funded and armed them, and helped to train the muhahadeen. Saudi Arabia (who treat their women horrendously and are bombing civilians in Yemen). They are good are they? US and UK still arming them? The logic doesn't make sense at all. The Palestinian people are being brutalised, murdered, ethnically cleansed from their own lands. How can anybody support this? I ask again if you are 100 % for Sharia law. Even though Israel is the only democracy hope in the middle east for women children and a better way of life. If you pick the local laws well I not going to hold that against you it is your finality. Hamas is and will be Sharia that's a undestbuted fact. You know Sharia law is finding out things Like how to bury a child or parent ( maybe after a us built jet has knocked Down a building ) How to borrow money & Own a house . Its not just the " bad stuff " as you might call it America seems happy that out of 119 Palestinians Killed in the last few days 31 were chdrej 19 were women The rest were men young & old . Fortunately Jewish people are not burying close to as many . And yet the UK is upgrading everything in their arsenal for what ? Protecting the London bridge ?or a global projection prospect.If you think that upgrading you military hardware is wrong call your politicians and complain. Just like Israel protecting their interests. It is all about protection." So to condemn the Israelites for wanting and securing the life and rights that they want when everyone is securing the same by upgrading the very same intentions on how to kill better. Maybe the need is to look into why. No the method of how to. | |||
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"It's not about picking a side. It's about recognising that one side is a people who are being brutalised, having their homes, their livelihoods, their water supply, their food stolen from them daily. Having their villages torn down. Houses that their family have lived in for generations stolen. Living in an open air prison, with virtually no rights, and who occasionally dare to fight back. It's about recognising that one is a brutal, murderous, colonist settler state, brutalising the people of Palestine. It's not a conflict. It's not a war. It's apartheid. It's ethnic cleansing. Bit confused. You start by saying it's not about choosing sides and then proceed to do just that Because its possible to say there isnt a good or a bad side but you can clearly state Israel have more on the debit side. Well guess that answers my previous question on this thread then from your perspective What question? Little bit up this thread. right raining missle attacks in the name of sharia law is perfectly fine. Israel responds bad Israel. Was this after they starting bulldozing people out of their homes and shooting dead protestors? Is Israel constantly under attack because a religious sect does not like them existing? Security is paramount so are saying nope they should not exist. Let's play this Palestine theory. WHO are controlling Hamas. If you are fine with that your mind is warped. Is Israel a colonialist settler state. Are they stealing land, homes, water off the people who have lived there for centuries? Do they shoot protestors in the head. Do they lock up Palestinian children in prisons. Do they shell hospitals, schools, children on the beach? Do the Arabic schools in Israel get only 1/3 of the funding as Israeli schools? Is this an apartheid state in every conceivable way? If you are fine with this your mind is warped. Been to the middle east served along with my husband. Let me know if bacha Bazi is your inclination of what is right. Your so skewed. Tell that to multiple victims I had to dustoff because of a religious belief. It's not like you even try to hide your complete racism. Not even worth the debate here if this is the argument you choose to make. Ridiculous. Also, I suppose I should expect that if you've served in imperialist wars in the middle east you'd probably have a soft spot for colonialist settler states. Aww this is comming from a country with the most imperialism known to mankind. No racism I bleed camoflage just like my sisters and brothers. But I don't expect you to understand what true evil is like I said skewed. Not your fault military intervention is a necessary evil. If you are fine with women buried up to their necks and stoned for minor infractions. Well I choose to be the competent one. The logic doesn't even make sense though. If it were actually humanitarian wars, which you seem to indicate, then why do the US pick and choose? Iran = bad. Except for all those years when you funded and armed them. Afghanistan = bad. Except for all those years that you funded and armed them, and helped to train the muhahadeen. Saudi Arabia (who treat their women horrendously and are bombing civilians in Yemen). They are good are they? US and UK still arming them? The logic doesn't make sense at all. The Palestinian people are being brutalised, murdered, ethnically cleansed from their own lands. How can anybody support this? I ask again if you are 100 % for Sharia law. Even though Israel is the only democracy hope in the middle east for women children and a better way of life. If you pick the local laws well I not going to hold that against you it is your finality. Hamas is and will be Sharia that's a undestbuted fact. You know Sharia law is finding out things Like how to bury a child or parent ( maybe after a us built jet has knocked Down a building ) How to borrow money & Own a house . Its not just the " bad stuff " as you might call it America seems happy that out of 119 Palestinians Killed in the last few days 31 were chdrej 19 were women The rest were men young & old . Fortunately Jewish people are not burying close to as many . And yet the UK is upgrading everything in their arsenal for what ? Protecting the London bridge ?or a global projection prospect.If you think that upgrading you military hardware is wrong call your politicians and complain. Just like Israel protecting their interests. It is all about protection. So to condemn the Israelites for wanting and securing the life and rights that they want when everyone is securing the same by upgrading the very same intentions on how to kill better. Maybe the need is to look into why. No the method of how to. " They managed to stop butchering each other In the North of Ireland after a Peace treaty In 1997 . Its holding quite well , there are wobbles & People get anxious , but fortunately its hasnt Broken the peace yet . Talk about not killing & the killing begins to stop . Stop the killing & the Killing helps to create A space , the space helps to bring peace . Its a simple concept . It saves billions as well & everyone gets to eat Not literally but in the sense that we all get our bit. | |||
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"It's not about picking a side. It's about recognising that one side is a people who are being brutalised, having their homes, their livelihoods, their water supply, their food stolen from them daily. Having their villages torn down. Houses that their family have lived in for generations stolen. Living in an open air prison, with virtually no rights, and who occasionally dare to fight back. It's about recognising that one is a brutal, murderous, colonist settler state, brutalising the people of Palestine. It's not a conflict. It's not a war. It's apartheid. It's ethnic cleansing. Bit confused. You start by saying it's not about choosing sides and then proceed to do just that Because its possible to say there isnt a good or a bad side but you can clearly state Israel have more on the debit side. Well guess that answers my previous question on this thread then from your perspective What question? Little bit up this thread. right raining missle attacks in the name of sharia law is perfectly fine. Israel responds bad Israel. Was this after they starting bulldozing people out of their homes and shooting dead protestors? Is Israel constantly under attack because a religious sect does not like them existing? Security is paramount so are saying nope they should not exist. Let's play this Palestine theory. WHO are controlling Hamas. If you are fine with that your mind is warped. Is Israel a colonialist settler state. Are they stealing land, homes, water off the people who have lived there for centuries? Do they shoot protestors in the head. Do they lock up Palestinian children in prisons. Do they shell hospitals, schools, children on the beach? Do the Arabic schools in Israel get only 1/3 of the funding as Israeli schools? Is this an apartheid state in every conceivable way? If you are fine with this your mind is warped. Been to the middle east served along with my husband. Let me know if bacha Bazi is your inclination of what is right. Your so skewed. Tell that to multiple victims I had to dustoff because of a religious belief. It's not like you even try to hide your complete racism. Not even worth the debate here if this is the argument you choose to make. Ridiculous. Also, I suppose I should expect that if you've served in imperialist wars in the middle east you'd probably have a soft spot for colonialist settler states. Aww this is comming from a country with the most imperialism known to mankind. No racism I bleed camoflage just like my sisters and brothers. But I don't expect you to understand what true evil is like I said skewed. Not your fault military intervention is a necessary evil. If you are fine with women buried up to their necks and stoned for minor infractions. Well I choose to be the competent one. The logic doesn't even make sense though. If it were actually humanitarian wars, which you seem to indicate, then why do the US pick and choose? Iran = bad. Except for all those years when you funded and armed them. Afghanistan = bad. Except for all those years that you funded and armed them, and helped to train the muhahadeen. Saudi Arabia (who treat their women horrendously and are bombing civilians in Yemen). They are good are they? US and UK still arming them? The logic doesn't make sense at all. The Palestinian people are being brutalised, murdered, ethnically cleansed from their own lands. How can anybody support this? I ask again if you are 100 % for Sharia law. Even though Israel is the only democracy hope in the middle east for women children and a better way of life. If you pick the local laws well I not going to hold that against you it is your finality. Hamas is and will be Sharia that's a undestbuted fact. You know Sharia law is finding out things Like how to bury a child or parent ( maybe after a us built jet has knocked Down a building ) How to borrow money & Own a house . Its not just the " bad stuff " as you might call it America seems happy that out of 119 Palestinians Killed in the last few days 31 were chdrej 19 were women The rest were men young & old . Fortunately Jewish people are not burying close to as many . And yet the UK is upgrading everything in their arsenal for what ? Protecting the London bridge ?or a global projection prospect.If you think that upgrading you military hardware is wrong call your politicians and complain. Just like Israel protecting their interests. It is all about protection. I.dont care about the UK I only live here ! Your Obsession with things that end Life Really is quite bizarre . " No it's is truthful. It's not bizarre if you experienced it . I find it bizzare that everyone complains about other countries yet to they are just as guilty of wanting to protect their right to exist and protect their homeland for a righteous cause. But maybe I am wrong maybe you can enlightened me. Is it ok for Hamas and Iranian rule? Maybe the UK should divest in their military and help the Iranian cause in your eyes it would be best. | |||
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" I ask again if you are 100 % for Sharia law. Even though Israel is the only democracy hope in the middle east for women children and a better way of life. If you pick the local laws well I not going to hold that against you it is your finality. Hamas is and will be Sharia that's a undestbuted fact. You know Sharia law is finding out things Like how to bury a child or parent ( maybe after a us built jet has knocked Down a building ) How to borrow money & Own a house . Its not just the " bad stuff " as you might call it America seems happy that out of 119 Palestinians Killed in the last few days 31 were chdrej 19 were women The rest were men young & old . Fortunately Jewish people are not burying close to as many . And yet the UK is upgrading everything in their arsenal for what ? Protecting the London bridge ?or a global projection prospect.If you think that upgrading you military hardware is wrong call your politicians and complain. Just like Israel protecting their interests. It is all about protection. I.dont care about the UK I only live here ! Your Obsession with things that end Life Really is quite bizarre . No it's is truthful. It's not bizarre if you experienced it . I find it bizzare that everyone complains about other countries yet to they are just as guilty of wanting to protect their right to exist and protect their homeland for a righteous cause. But maybe I am wrong maybe you can enlightened me. Is it ok for Hamas and Iranian rule? Maybe the UK should divest in their military and help the Iranian cause in your eyes it would be best. "Truthful ? What was Truthful about America going after Saddam Hussein Whilst telling the world they were to blame for 9/11 ? Are you sure you lot over there know what truthful is ? Iran isnt trying to rule anywhere as far as i can see . As fir Hamas , They won an Election . Bit like Trump did . See what happens when people vote . This bigoted view of places like Iran & Palestine are quite suprising . Personally i hope the tragic events in Palestine & Israel Conclude very soon . But then im not a blood thirsty Ghoul like some seem to be | |||
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" I ask again if you are 100 % for Sharia law. Even though Israel is the only democracy hope in the middle east for women children and a better way of life. If you pick the local laws well I not going to hold that against you it is your finality. Hamas is and will be Sharia that's a undestbuted fact. You know Sharia law is finding out things Like how to bury a child or parent ( maybe after a us built jet has knocked Down a building ) How to borrow money & Own a house . Its not just the " bad stuff " as you might call it America seems happy that out of 119 Palestinians Killed in the last few days 31 were chdrej 19 were women The rest were men young & old . Fortunately Jewish people are not burying close to as many . And yet the UK is upgrading everything in their arsenal for what ? Protecting the London bridge ?or a global projection prospect.If you think that upgrading you military hardware is wrong call your politicians and complain. Just like Israel protecting their interests. It is all about protection. I.dont care about the UK I only live here ! Your Obsession with things that end Life Really is quite bizarre . No it's is truthful. It's not bizarre if you experienced it . I find it bizzare that everyone complains about other countries yet to they are just as guilty of wanting to protect their right to exist and protect their homeland for a righteous cause. But maybe I am wrong maybe you can enlightened me. Is it ok for Hamas and Iranian rule? Maybe the UK should divest in their military and help the Iranian cause in your eyes it would be best.
Truthful ?
What was Truthful about America going after Saddam Hussein
Whilst telling the world they were to blame for 9/11 ?
Are you sure you lot over there know what truthful is ?
Iran isnt trying to rule anywhere as far as i can see .
As fir Hamas , They won an Election .
Bit like Trump did .
See what happens when people vote .
This bigoted view of places like Iran & Palestine
are quite suprising .
Personally i hope the tragic events in Palestine & Israel
Conclude very soon .
But then im not a blood thirsty Ghoul like some seem to be
"Hate the US all you want. Does Israel have a right to exist in your eyes yes or no ? Simple question. Iran is a better option in your eyes. Since clearly they are sponsoring the opposition or are you that blind to that fact. Sharia law or democracy ? Apparently you choose the previous. | |||
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" I ask again if you are 100 % for Sharia law. Even though Israel is the only democracy hope in the middle east for women children and a better way of life. If you pick the local laws well I not going to hold that against you it is your finality. Hamas is and will be Sharia that's a undestbuted fact. You know Sharia law is finding out things Like how to bury a child or parent ( maybe after a us built jet has knocked Down a building ) How to borrow money & Own a house . Its not just the " bad stuff " as you might call it America seems happy that out of 119 Palestinians Killed in the last few days 31 were chdrej 19 were women The rest were men young & old . Fortunately Jewish people are not burying close to as many . And yet the UK is upgrading everything in their arsenal for what ? Protecting the London bridge ?or a global projection prospect.If you think that upgrading you military hardware is wrong call your politicians and complain. Just like Israel protecting their interests. It is all about protection. I.dont care about the UK I only live here ! Your Obsession with things that end Life Really is quite bizarre . No it's is truthful. It's not bizarre if you experienced it . I find it bizzare that everyone complains about other countries yet to they are just as guilty of wanting to protect their right to exist and protect their homeland for a righteous cause. But maybe I am wrong maybe you can enlightened me. Is it ok for Hamas and Iranian rule? Maybe the UK should divest in their military and help the Iranian cause in your eyes it would be best.
Truthful ?
What was Truthful about America going after Saddam Hussein
Whilst telling the world they were to blame for 9/11 ?
Are you sure you lot over there know what truthful is ?
Iran isnt trying to rule anywhere as far as i can see .
As fir Hamas , They won an Election .
Bit like Trump did .
See what happens when people vote .
This bigoted view of places like Iran & Palestine
are quite suprising .
Personally i hope the tragic events in Palestine & Israel
Conclude very soon .
But then im not a blood thirsty Ghoul like some seem to be
Hate the US all you want. Does Israel have a right to exist in your eyes yes or no ? Simple question. Iran is a better option in your eyes. Since clearly they are sponsoring the opposition or are you that blind to that fact. Sharia law or democracy ? Apparently you choose the previous."Who hates the U.S ? I just think they're young pups in the International world. What are you claiming about its right to exist for ? Israel exists Iran Exists The U.S exists Russia exists England exists Scotland Wales France New Zealand Poland China Colombia India All exist . Im really puzzled by any points you are trying to make . This is about tragedy in 2 Nation States Israel & Palestine Lots of death by fellow Human beings . With the mess of the world with covid Dont you think enough death has been dealt to Humanity in the last 18 months ? Or has your need to Fight encompassed you completely & Deprived you of any Human empathy completely ? | |||
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" I ask again if you are 100 % for Sharia law. Even though Israel is the only democracy hope in the middle east for women children and a better way of life. If you pick the local laws well I not going to hold that against you it is your finality. Hamas is and will be Sharia that's a undestbuted fact. You know Sharia law is finding out things Like how to bury a child or parent ( maybe after a us built jet has knocked Down a building ) How to borrow money & Own a house . Its not just the " bad stuff " as you might call it America seems happy that out of 119 Palestinians Killed in the last few days 31 were chdrej 19 were women The rest were men young & old . Fortunately Jewish people are not burying close to as many . And yet the UK is upgrading everything in their arsenal for what ? Protecting the London bridge ?or a global projection prospect.If you think that upgrading you military hardware is wrong call your politicians and complain. Just like Israel protecting their interests. It is all about protection. I.dont care about the UK I only live here ! Your Obsession with things that end Life Really is quite bizarre . No it's is truthful. It's not bizarre if you experienced it . I find it bizzare that everyone complains about other countries yet to they are just as guilty of wanting to protect their right to exist and protect their homeland for a righteous cause. But maybe I am wrong maybe you can enlightened me. Is it ok for Hamas and Iranian rule? Maybe the UK should divest in their military and help the Iranian cause in your eyes it would be best.
Truthful ?
What was Truthful about America going after Saddam Hussein
Whilst telling the world they were to blame for 9/11 ?
Are you sure you lot over there know what truthful is ?
Iran isnt trying to rule anywhere as far as i can see .
As fir Hamas , They won an Election .
Bit like Trump did .
See what happens when people vote .
This bigoted view of places like Iran & Palestine
are quite suprising .
Personally i hope the tragic events in Palestine & Israel
Conclude very soon .
But then im not a blood thirsty Ghoul like some seem to be
Hate the US all you want. Does Israel have a right to exist in your eyes yes or no ? Simple question. Iran is a better option in your eyes. Since clearly they are sponsoring the opposition or are you that blind to that fact. Sharia law or democracy ? Apparently you choose the previous."Just to add my two-pence : - http://iblagh.com/en/us-military-bases-around-iran/ https://www.google.com/search?q=Israel+Palestine+Map&sxsrf=ALeKk02oqJkCWrc1kd06XYUMuYY66f3qCw:1621048608069&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=73WUeH0c5VDiQM%252Cr5dEbyxYEHnW2M%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kQEqdDfObXgcblYXY1DhKzTuWOBbQ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwix7snT3MrwAhWGmRQKHUwuC34Q9QF6BAgSEAE&biw=1536&bih=754#imgrc=73WUeH0c5VDiQM so who is oppressing who? If you virtue signal that you are better than someone else then hold yourself to those high ideals and not lower yourself to the value of your opposition. Over and above if you see the national anthem of israel translated it starts with "a land without people for a people without land" Is this not similar to America with Native Americans and Australia with it's aboriginal population? Was the land really without people? | |||
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" I ask again if you are 100 % for Sharia law. Even though Israel is the only democracy hope in the middle east for women children and a better way of life. If you pick the local laws well I not going to hold that against you it is your finality. Hamas is and will be Sharia that's a undestbuted fact. You know Sharia law is finding out things Like how to bury a child or parent ( maybe after a us built jet has knocked Down a building ) How to borrow money & Own a house . Its not just the " bad stuff " as you might call it America seems happy that out of 119 Palestinians Killed in the last few days 31 were chdrej 19 were women The rest were men young & old . Fortunately Jewish people are not burying close to as many . And yet the UK is upgrading everything in their arsenal for what ? Protecting the London bridge ?or a global projection prospect.If you think that upgrading you military hardware is wrong call your politicians and complain. Just like Israel protecting their interests. It is all about protection. I.dont care about the UK I only live here ! Your Obsession with things that end Life Really is quite bizarre . No it's is truthful. It's not bizarre if you experienced it . I find it bizzare that everyone complains about other countries yet to they are just as guilty of wanting to protect their right to exist and protect their homeland for a righteous cause. But maybe I am wrong maybe you can enlightened me. Is it ok for Hamas and Iranian rule? Maybe the UK should divest in their military and help the Iranian cause in your eyes it would be best.
Truthful ?
What was Truthful about America going after Saddam Hussein
Whilst telling the world they were to blame for 9/11 ?
Are you sure you lot over there know what truthful is ?
Iran isnt trying to rule anywhere as far as i can see .
As fir Hamas , They won an Election .
Bit like Trump did .
See what happens when people vote .
This bigoted view of places like Iran & Palestine
are quite suprising .
Personally i hope the tragic events in Palestine & Israel
Conclude very soon .
But then im not a blood thirsty Ghoul like some seem to be
Hate the US all you want. Does Israel have a right to exist in your eyes yes or no ? Simple question. Iran is a better option in your eyes. Since clearly they are sponsoring the opposition or are you that blind to that fact. Sharia law or democracy ? Apparently you choose the previous."You keep bringing sharia in this topic. But Israel and Palestine is not fighting now because of sharia? It may be one of the reasons in the background , religions etc, but the fighting is because Israel is colonising Palestine. I understand that Israel sees Palestine as a threat, but where they are going to stop? By wiping out palestinians? Because it seems that Israel doesn't want just to stick to their side of the border. Hamas is a threat and will always be. So what is the solution? Most people want for them to have peace and just sit at their side of the border, but not you. So can you answer the question? Should Israel wipe out Palestine? | |||
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"It's not good and its looks like it going to get worse. I'm not sure anyone is blameless but quite how isreal act they way they do and are somehow painted as the 'good guys'certainly doesnt help. But neither are Hamas the poor put upon innocents they try and portray. As long as they are both trying to be the only ones there at the expense of the other, they are just as bad as one another. I'm.not sure the comparable death figures would back that up" Palestinias throwing stones and fireworks Israelis respond with live rounds says it all really !! | |||
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"Will probably regret jumping in to this thread, but a few points. If a petrol bomb is thrown at you, it is perfectly legal to use lethal force to prevent that lethal threat being thrown at you. £40000 is not massively expensive for a missile. The javelin anti tank missile costs £60-70k I believe for example. Israel is a de facto nuclear armed state, that has fought several wars to defend itself against annihilation- ie it’s not going anywhere. It’s current behaviour is reprehensible and not far from that that led to its creation after World War Two. Hamas is the elected government of Palestine that has the destruction of the state of Israel as its aim. While neither side is willing to compromise, innocents on either side will die. " Excellent post | |||
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"It's not good and its looks like it going to get worse. I'm not sure anyone is blameless but quite how isreal act they way they do and are somehow painted as the 'good guys'certainly doesnt help. But neither are Hamas the poor put upon innocents they try and portray. As long as they are both trying to be the only ones there at the expense of the other, they are just as bad as one another. I'm.not sure the comparable death figures would back that up Palestinias throwing stones and fireworks Israelis respond with live rounds says it all really !!" Seems to be an acceptable response apparently | |||
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"I'm against any apartheid state" So you want to see the destruction off Israel and the Jews in that region is what your saying...your just hiding it behind apartheid | |||
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"It's not about picking a side. It's about recognising that one side is a people who are being brutalised, having their homes, their livelihoods, their water supply, their food stolen from them daily. Having their villages torn down. Houses that their family have lived in for generations stolen. Living in an open air prison, with virtually no rights, and who occasionally dare to fight back. It's about recognising that one is a brutal, murderous, colonist settler state, brutalising the people of Palestine. It's not a conflict. It's not a war. It's apartheid. It's ethnic cleansing. Bit confused. You start by saying it's not about choosing sides and then proceed to do just that" just like Lionel does lol | |||
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"It's not about picking a side. It's about recognising that one side is a people who are being brutalised, having their homes, their livelihoods, their water supply, their food stolen from them daily. Having their villages torn down. Houses that their family have lived in for generations stolen. Living in an open air prison, with virtually no rights, and who occasionally dare to fight back. It's about recognising that one is a brutal, murderous, colonist settler state, brutalising the people of Palestine. It's not a conflict. It's not a war. It's apartheid. It's ethnic cleansing. Bit confused. You start by saying it's not about choosing sides and then proceed to do just that just like Lionel does lol" Do.you think in any conflict 1 side can be more culpable than.another? | |||
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"I'm against any apartheid stateSo you want to see the destruction off Israel and the Jews in that region is what your saying...your just hiding it behind apartheid "Thank you for proving my poimt | |||
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"I'm against any apartheid stateSo you want to see the destruction off Israel and the Jews in that region is what your saying...your just hiding it behind apartheid "It's nothing about the Jews. It's about apartheid by the Israeli government. Please spend few minutes to watch this youtube video. . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5LWAAHpkyE | |||
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" Do.you think in any conflict 1 side can be more culpable than.another?" I can understand now why the issue will never resolve. Even in the forum, many refuse to look at the root of the problem - the actual cause of the problem, despite being given chance to gather the knowledge. I think the Native American should repossess all lands in the US and chase out the Americans, the Aborigines do the same on the Australians, ' - then only they can understand. | |||
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" Do.you think in any conflict 1 side can be more culpable than.another? I can understand now why the issue will never resolve. Even in the forum, many refuse to look at the root of the problem - the actual cause of the problem, despite being given chance to gather the knowledge. I think the Native American should repossess all lands in the US and chase out the Americans, the Aborigines do the same on the Australians, ' - then only they can understand. " Its just bizarre. Does this happen in any other conflict? If you think ,for example,that the IRA were more culpable than the protestant gangs in Ireland, you are wrong to have such an opinion and want all Catholics wiped from the earth? Any rational discourse is just impossible. | |||
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"I'm against any apartheid stateSo you want to see the destruction off Israel and the Jews in that region is what your saying...your just hiding it behind apartheid
It's nothing about the Jews.
It's about apartheid by the Israeli government.
Please spend few minutes to watch this youtube video.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5LWAAHpkyE"If it’s in YouTube it doesn’t count as evidence and is therefore irrelevant. Regardless of the subject matter of the vid. | |||
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" Do.you think in any conflict 1 side can be more culpable than.another? I can understand now why the issue will never resolve. Even in the forum, many refuse to look at the root of the problem - the actual cause of the problem, despite being given chance to gather the knowledge. I think the Native American should repossess all lands in the US and chase out the Americans, the Aborigines do the same on the Australians, ' - then only they can understand. " If the American Indian's ( to use your example )..own the title deeds to that piece off land,morally speaking they were it's original inhabitants...why don't the Jews by the same standard own the title deeds to the land in which they were the original inhabitants...or are Jews just different | |||
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