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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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How did the UK get it so very wrong?
https://www.euronews.com/2021/03/31/brexit-three-months-on-uk-eu-trade-trouble-deeper-than-teething-problems-say-producers
Never mind, as has been said numerous times, it take 10 to 20 years before the UK might see any benifit from leaving the EU so...
..in reality
Loss of exports across the board is really things going to plan
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION. Stoke. |
"The impact has been felt by both people and businesses -- although it has sometimes been hard to distinguish from the overwhelming impact of the pandemic."
We are in a Pandemic? Who knew? And who knew that it affects exports? Well particularly when so many businesses are CLOSED in the EU so not many businesses are buying.
So. Hardly much of a surprise really.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"And I'll also add that hundreds of businesses had been stockpiling before Brexit, so that had a slowdown on exports too.
Easy to find - But ONLY if you want to of course. "
Meanwhile in the Real World life goes on...
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"And I'll also add that hundreds of businesses had been stockpiling before Brexit, so that had a slowdown on exports too.
Easy to find - But ONLY if you want to of course.
Meanwhile in the Real World life goes on...
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It certainly does. Maybe you should listen to yourself and stop being so miserable about Brexit |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION. Stoke. |
"And I'll also add that hundreds of businesses had been stockpiling before Brexit, so that had a slowdown on exports too.
Easy to find - But ONLY if you want to of course.
Meanwhile in the Real World life goes on...
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I would answer, but you didn't actually say anything. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"And I'll also add that hundreds of businesses had been stockpiling before Brexit, so that had a slowdown on exports too.
Easy to find - But ONLY if you want to of course.
Meanwhile in the Real World life goes on...
I would answer, but you didn't actually say anything."
That made laugh |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION. Stoke. |
"And I'll also add that hundreds of businesses had been stockpiling before Brexit, so that had a slowdown on exports too.
Easy to find - But ONLY if you want to of course.
Meanwhile in the Real World life goes on...
I would answer, but you didn't actually say anything.
That made laugh "
See. Proof that you can be happy and carefree and look to the future with hope. Whatever you believe has happened it's happened. Now it's time to get behind the wheel and push with the rest of us. |
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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago
milton keynes |
"And I'll also add that hundreds of businesses had been stockpiling before Brexit, so that had a slowdown on exports too.
Easy to find - But ONLY if you want to of course.
Meanwhile in the Real World life goes on...
I would answer, but you didn't actually say anything.
That made laugh
See. Proof that you can be happy and carefree and look to the future with hope. Whatever you believe has happened it's happened. Now it's time to get behind the wheel and push with the rest of us. "
In the spirit of happiness its worth pointing out the report in the OP is out of date and latest news on the BBC is:
EU imports are now lower than non EU countries as businesses shift away from the EU. The trade deficit is reduced by 8.4 billion |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"And I'll also add that hundreds of businesses had been stockpiling before Brexit, so that had a slowdown on exports too.
Easy to find - But ONLY if you want to of course.
Meanwhile in the Real World life goes on...
I would answer, but you didn't actually say anything.
That made laugh
See. Proof that you can be happy and carefree and look to the future with hope. Whatever you believe has happened it's happened. Now it's time to get behind the wheel and push with the rest of us.
In the spirit of happiness its worth pointing out the report in the OP is out of date and latest news on the BBC is:
EU imports are now lower than non EU countries as businesses shift away from the EU. The trade deficit is reduced by 8.4 billion" Dont burst his bubble he is on a roll but you would think not being allowed out at night he would have plenty of time to get the latest facts. |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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"And I'll also add that hundreds of businesses had been stockpiling before Brexit, so that had a slowdown on exports too.
Easy to find - But ONLY if you want to of course. "
Let’s say that was partially, mostly, or even wholly true - which we all know it isn’t.
We do all know that there will be good news stories that some part of the population will mark as “proof” that Brexit is going to be a great success. By the same token, there will be stories (like this one) where part of the population will mark as proof that Brexit is an unfolding disaster.
I personally think that posting these individual stories on either side is becoming pointless (especially on this site).
We need to look at the underlying trajectory and underlying economic movements to try to understand the bigger picture than individual stories like this one.
My belief that Brexit would not be in the UK’s best interest still remains the same and something that I think illustrates that is that despite the Conservative Party’s huge successes in the recent elections, GBP has barely moved against the Euro.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"And I'll also add that hundreds of businesses had been stockpiling before Brexit, so that had a slowdown on exports too.
Easy to find - But ONLY if you want to of course.
Meanwhile in the Real World life goes on...
I would answer, but you didn't actually say anything.
That made laugh
See. Proof that you can be happy and carefree and look to the future with hope. Whatever you believe has happened it's happened. Now it's time to get behind the wheel and push with the rest of us. "
Is that what those who were against EU membership from 1987 did ?
Farage certainly didnt .
Bit arrogant to say everyone should push when he obviously didnt .
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION. Stoke. |
"And I'll also add that hundreds of businesses had been stockpiling before Brexit, so that had a slowdown on exports too.
Easy to find - But ONLY if you want to of course.
Let’s say that was partially, mostly, or even wholly true - which we all know it isn’t.
"
Which it is:
"KPMG said intense stockpiling in December 2020 had brought some trade flows ahead of the Brexit deadline.
The ONS said companies may have been using up that stock instead of buying new goods in January." |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"And I'll also add that hundreds of businesses had been stockpiling before Brexit, so that had a slowdown on exports too.
Easy to find - But ONLY if you want to of course.
Meanwhile in the Real World life goes on...
I would answer, but you didn't actually say anything.
That made laugh
See. Proof that you can be happy and carefree and look to the future with hope. Whatever you believe has happened it's happened. Now it's time to get behind the wheel and push with the rest of us.
Is that what those who were against EU membership from 1987 did ?
Farage certainly didnt .
Bit arrogant to say everyone should push when he obviously didnt .
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You have remember that crying, moaning whining and obstruction whilst we were in the EU was ok, any dissent after we have left, not ok |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION. Stoke. |
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See. Proof that you can be happy and carefree and look to the future with hope. Whatever you believe has happened it's happened. Now it's time to get behind the wheel and push with the rest of us.
Is that what those who were against EU membership from 1987 did ?
Farage certainly didnt .
Bit arrogant to say everyone should push when he obviously didnt .
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You can have your own conversation with yourself about Farage if you like, but I was actually talking to the OP. lmao. |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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"And I'll also add that hundreds of businesses had been stockpiling before Brexit, so that had a slowdown on exports too.
Easy to find - But ONLY if you want to of course.
Let’s say that was partially, mostly, or even wholly true - which we all know it isn’t.
Which it is:
"KPMG said intense stockpiling in December 2020 had brought some trade flows ahead of the Brexit deadline.
The ONS said companies may have been using up that stock instead of buying new goods in January.""
That may have been true for month one, but the OP has linked to a report covering the first three months.
Let’s look again in July, when Q2 figures are in and let’s also remember that the U.K. has not yet implemented its side of the deal for fear of food shortages.
I would much prefer Brexit supporters who say they knew what they were voting for to at least admit that they knew that border friction would occur, they knew that the consequential drop in exports would be damaging and they knew that there was a potential for a reduction in imports and exports would harm the economy.
Why not just admit that you voted for economic harm because it was a price worth paying for Brexit? At least it would make you honest.
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By *I TwoCouple
over a year ago
PDI 12-26th Nov 24 |
"And I'll also add that hundreds of businesses had been stockpiling before Brexit, so that had a slowdown on exports too.
Easy to find - But ONLY if you want to of course.
Meanwhile in the Real World life goes on...
I would answer, but you didn't actually say anything.
That made laugh
See. Proof that you can be happy and carefree and look to the future with hope. Whatever you believe has happened it's happened. Now it's time to get behind the wheel and push with the rest of us. "
And therein lies the problem
There's no point pushing when there's nobody behind the wheel. |
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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago
milton keynes |
"And I'll also add that hundreds of businesses had been stockpiling before Brexit, so that had a slowdown on exports too.
Easy to find - But ONLY if you want to of course.
Let’s say that was partially, mostly, or even wholly true - which we all know it isn’t.
Which it is:
"KPMG said intense stockpiling in December 2020 had brought some trade flows ahead of the Brexit deadline.
The ONS said companies may have been using up that stock instead of buying new goods in January."
That may have been true for month one, but the OP has linked to a report covering the first three months.
Let’s look again in July, when Q2 figures are in and let’s also remember that the U.K. has not yet implemented its side of the deal for fear of food shortages.
I would much prefer Brexit supporters who say they knew what they were voting for to at least admit that they knew that border friction would occur, they knew that the consequential drop in exports would be damaging and they knew that there was a potential for a reduction in imports and exports would harm the economy.
Why not just admit that you voted for economic harm because it was a price worth paying for Brexit? At least it would make you honest.
"
As said the latest figures on the BBC show an improving picture as pre stock piled goods run down and businesses are starting to favour non EU countries over EU countries. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"And I'll also add that hundreds of businesses had been stockpiling before Brexit, so that had a slowdown on exports too.
Easy to find - But ONLY if you want to of course.
Let’s say that was partially, mostly, or even wholly true - which we all know it isn’t.
Which it is:
"KPMG said intense stockpiling in December 2020 had brought some trade flows ahead of the Brexit deadline.
The ONS said companies may have been using up that stock instead of buying new goods in January."
That may have been true for month one, but the OP has linked to a report covering the first three months.
Let’s look again in July, when Q2 figures are in and let’s also remember that the U.K. has not yet implemented its side of the deal for fear of food shortages.
I would much prefer Brexit supporters who say they knew what they were voting for to at least admit that they knew that border friction would occur, they knew that the consequential drop in exports would be damaging and they knew that there was a potential for a reduction in imports and exports would harm the economy.
Why not just admit that you voted for economic harm because it was a price worth paying for Brexit? At least it would make you honest.
As said the latest figures on the BBC show an improving picture as pre stock piled goods run down and businesses are starting to favour non EU countries over EU countries. "
Favour? They don’t have a choice, |
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By *andy 1Couple
over a year ago
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"And I'll also add that hundreds of businesses had been stockpiling before Brexit, so that had a slowdown on exports too.
Easy to find - But ONLY if you want to of course.
Meanwhile in the Real World life goes on...
I would answer, but you didn't actually say anything." |
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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago
milton keynes |
"And I'll also add that hundreds of businesses had been stockpiling before Brexit, so that had a slowdown on exports too.
Easy to find - But ONLY if you want to of course.
Let’s say that was partially, mostly, or even wholly true - which we all know it isn’t.
Which it is:
"KPMG said intense stockpiling in December 2020 had brought some trade flows ahead of the Brexit deadline.
The ONS said companies may have been using up that stock instead of buying new goods in January."
That may have been true for month one, but the OP has linked to a report covering the first three months.
Let’s look again in July, when Q2 figures are in and let’s also remember that the U.K. has not yet implemented its side of the deal for fear of food shortages.
I would much prefer Brexit supporters who say they knew what they were voting for to at least admit that they knew that border friction would occur, they knew that the consequential drop in exports would be damaging and they knew that there was a potential for a reduction in imports and exports would harm the economy.
Why not just admit that you voted for economic harm because it was a price worth paying for Brexit? At least it would make you honest.
As said the latest figures on the BBC show an improving picture as pre stock piled goods run down and businesses are starting to favour non EU countries over EU countries.
Favour? They don’t have a choice, "
Of course they have a choice as the fact that companies still buy stuff from the EU proves but at the moment they are no longer the go to place |
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over a year ago
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"And I'll also add that hundreds of businesses had been stockpiling before Brexit, so that had a slowdown on exports too.
Easy to find - But ONLY if you want to of course.
Meanwhile in the Real World life goes on...
I would answer, but you didn't actually say anything. "
6 thumbs, must have been good |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"And I'll also add that hundreds of businesses had been stockpiling before Brexit, so that had a slowdown on exports too.
Easy to find - But ONLY if you want to of course.
Let’s say that was partially, mostly, or even wholly true - which we all know it isn’t.
Which it is:
"KPMG said intense stockpiling in December 2020 had brought some trade flows ahead of the Brexit deadline.
The ONS said companies may have been using up that stock instead of buying new goods in January."
That may have been true for month one, but the OP has linked to a report covering the first three months.
Let’s look again in July, when Q2 figures are in and let’s also remember that the U.K. has not yet implemented its side of the deal for fear of food shortages.
I would much prefer Brexit supporters who say they knew what they were voting for to at least admit that they knew that border friction would occur, they knew that the consequential drop in exports would be damaging and they knew that there was a potential for a reduction in imports and exports would harm the economy.
Why not just admit that you voted for economic harm because it was a price worth paying for Brexit? At least it would make you honest.
As said the latest figures on the BBC show an improving picture as pre stock piled goods run down and businesses are starting to favour non EU countries over EU countries.
Favour? They don’t have a choice,
Of course they have a choice as the fact that companies still buy stuff from the EU proves but at the moment they are no longer the go to place"
Obviously they aren’t due to the terrible deal we signed , exporting to the EU is far more difficult now . Do you know which countries are now in favour ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"And I'll also add that hundreds of businesses had been stockpiling before Brexit, so that had a slowdown on exports too.
Easy to find - But ONLY if you want to of course.
Let’s say that was partially, mostly, or even wholly true - which we all know it isn’t.
Which it is:
"KPMG said intense stockpiling in December 2020 had brought some trade flows ahead of the Brexit deadline.
The ONS said companies may have been using up that stock instead of buying new goods in January."
That may have been true for month one, but the OP has linked to a report covering the first three months.
Let’s look again in July, when Q2 figures are in and let’s also remember that the U.K. has not yet implemented its side of the deal for fear of food shortages.
I would much prefer Brexit supporters who say they knew what they were voting for to at least admit that they knew that border friction would occur, they knew that the consequential drop in exports would be damaging and they knew that there was a potential for a reduction in imports and exports would harm the economy.
Why not just admit that you voted for economic harm because it was a price worth paying for Brexit? At least it would make you honest.
As said the latest figures on the BBC show an improving picture as pre stock piled goods run down and businesses are starting to favour non EU countries over EU countries.
Favour? They don’t have a choice,
Of course they have a choice as the fact that companies still buy stuff from the EU proves but at the moment they are no longer the go to place
Obviously they aren’t due to the terrible deal we signed , exporting to the EU is far more difficult now . Do you know which countries are now in favour ? "
It's no more difficult than any other country though. More difficult than before though, granted. |
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"And I'll also add that hundreds of businesses had been stockpiling before Brexit, so that had a slowdown on exports too.
Easy to find - But ONLY if you want to of course.
Let’s say that was partially, mostly, or even wholly true - which we all know it isn’t.
Which it is:
"KPMG said intense stockpiling in December 2020 had brought some trade flows ahead of the Brexit deadline.
The ONS said companies may have been using up that stock instead of buying new goods in January."
That may have been true for month one, but the OP has linked to a report covering the first three months.
Let’s look again in July, when Q2 figures are in and let’s also remember that the U.K. has not yet implemented its side of the deal for fear of food shortages.
I would much prefer Brexit supporters who say they knew what they were voting for to at least admit that they knew that border friction would occur, they knew that the consequential drop in exports would be damaging and they knew that there was a potential for a reduction in imports and exports would harm the economy.
Why not just admit that you voted for economic harm because it was a price worth paying for Brexit? At least it would make you honest.
As said the latest figures on the BBC show an improving picture as pre stock piled goods run down and businesses are starting to favour non EU countries over EU countries.
Favour? They don’t have a choice,
Of course they have a choice as the fact that companies still buy stuff from the EU proves but at the moment they are no longer the go to place
Obviously they aren’t due to the terrible deal we signed , exporting to the EU is far more difficult now . Do you know which countries are now in favour ?
It's no more difficult than any other country though. More difficult than before though, granted."
That’s my point, once the pandemic is over we will get a true reflection on export numbers, we still haven’t signed any ‘improved’ trade deals |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"And I'll also add that hundreds of businesses had been stockpiling before Brexit, so that had a slowdown on exports too.
Easy to find - But ONLY if you want to of course.
Let’s say that was partially, mostly, or even wholly true - which we all know it isn’t.
Which it is:
"KPMG said intense stockpiling in December 2020 had brought some trade flows ahead of the Brexit deadline.
The ONS said companies may have been using up that stock instead of buying new goods in January."
That may have been true for month one, but the OP has linked to a report covering the first three months.
Let’s look again in July, when Q2 figures are in and let’s also remember that the U.K. has not yet implemented its side of the deal for fear of food shortages.
I would much prefer Brexit supporters who say they knew what they were voting for to at least admit that they knew that border friction would occur, they knew that the consequential drop in exports would be damaging and they knew that there was a potential for a reduction in imports and exports would harm the economy.
Why not just admit that you voted for economic harm because it was a price worth paying for Brexit? At least it would make you honest.
As said the latest figures on the BBC show an improving picture as pre stock piled goods run down and businesses are starting to favour non EU countries over EU countries.
Favour? They don’t have a choice,
Of course they have a choice as the fact that companies still buy stuff from the EU proves but at the moment they are no longer the go to place
Obviously they aren’t due to the terrible deal we signed , exporting to the EU is far more difficult now . Do you know which countries are now in favour ?
It's no more difficult than any other country though. More difficult than before though, granted.
That’s my point, once the pandemic is over we will get a true reflection on export numbers, we still haven’t signed any ‘improved’ trade deals "
Haven't loads of been saying since the start that we won't know until the pandemic is over? |
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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago
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"And I'll also add that hundreds of businesses had been stockpiling before Brexit, so that had a slowdown on exports too.
Easy to find - But ONLY if you want to of course.
Let’s say that was partially, mostly, or even wholly true - which we all know it isn’t.
Which it is:
"KPMG said intense stockpiling in December 2020 had brought some trade flows ahead of the Brexit deadline.
The ONS said companies may have been using up that stock instead of buying new goods in January."
That may have been true for month one, but the OP has linked to a report covering the first three months.
Let’s look again in July, when Q2 figures are in and let’s also remember that the U.K. has not yet implemented its side of the deal for fear of food shortages.
I would much prefer Brexit supporters who say they knew what they were voting for to at least admit that they knew that border friction would occur, they knew that the consequential drop in exports would be damaging and they knew that there was a potential for a reduction in imports and exports would harm the economy.
Why not just admit that you voted for economic harm because it was a price worth paying for Brexit? At least it would make you honest.
As said the latest figures on the BBC show an improving picture as pre stock piled goods run down and businesses are starting to favour non EU countries over EU countries.
Favour? They don’t have a choice,
Of course they have a choice as the fact that companies still buy stuff from the EU proves but at the moment they are no longer the go to place
Obviously they aren’t due to the terrible deal we signed , exporting to the EU is far more difficult now . Do you know which countries are now in favour ? "
You said they don't have a choice which is factually incorrect. Companies do still trade with the EU. If they did not have a choice how is it still happening. As for the other countries the article only says EU and non EU so can't be more specific |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"And I'll also add that hundreds of businesses had been stockpiling before Brexit, so that had a slowdown on exports too.
Easy to find - But ONLY if you want to of course.
Let’s say that was partially, mostly, or even wholly true - which we all know it isn’t.
Which it is:
"KPMG said intense stockpiling in December 2020 had brought some trade flows ahead of the Brexit deadline.
The ONS said companies may have been using up that stock instead of buying new goods in January."
That may have been true for month one, but the OP has linked to a report covering the first three months.
Let’s look again in July, when Q2 figures are in and let’s also remember that the U.K. has not yet implemented its side of the deal for fear of food shortages.
I would much prefer Brexit supporters who say they knew what they were voting for to at least admit that they knew that border friction would occur, they knew that the consequential drop in exports would be damaging and they knew that there was a potential for a reduction in imports and exports would harm the economy.
Why not just admit that you voted for economic harm because it was a price worth paying for Brexit? At least it would make you honest.
As said the latest figures on the BBC show an improving picture as pre stock piled goods run down and businesses are starting to favour non EU countries over EU countries.
Favour? They don’t have a choice,
Of course they have a choice as the fact that companies still buy stuff from the EU proves but at the moment they are no longer the go to place
Obviously they aren’t due to the terrible deal we signed , exporting to the EU is far more difficult now . Do you know which countries are now in favour ?
It's no more difficult than any other country though. More difficult than before though, granted.
That’s my point, once the pandemic is over we will get a true reflection on export numbers, we still haven’t signed any ‘improved’ trade deals
Haven't loads of been saying since the start that we won't know until the pandemic is over?"
I am sure they have, |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"And I'll also add that hundreds of businesses had been stockpiling before Brexit, so that had a slowdown on exports too.
Easy to find - But ONLY if you want to of course.
Let’s say that was partially, mostly, or even wholly true - which we all know it isn’t.
Which it is:
"KPMG said intense stockpiling in December 2020 had brought some trade flows ahead of the Brexit deadline.
The ONS said companies may have been using up that stock instead of buying new goods in January."
That may have been true for month one, but the OP has linked to a report covering the first three months.
Let’s look again in July, when Q2 figures are in and let’s also remember that the U.K. has not yet implemented its side of the deal for fear of food shortages.
I would much prefer Brexit supporters who say they knew what they were voting for to at least admit that they knew that border friction would occur, they knew that the consequential drop in exports would be damaging and they knew that there was a potential for a reduction in imports and exports would harm the economy.
Why not just admit that you voted for economic harm because it was a price worth paying for Brexit? At least it would make you honest.
As said the latest figures on the BBC show an improving picture as pre stock piled goods run down and businesses are starting to favour non EU countries over EU countries.
Favour? They don’t have a choice,
Of course they have a choice as the fact that companies still buy stuff from the EU proves but at the moment they are no longer the go to place
Obviously they aren’t due to the terrible deal we signed , exporting to the EU is far more difficult now . Do you know which countries are now in favour ?
You said they don't have a choice which is factually incorrect. Companies do still trade with the EU. If they did not have a choice how is it still happening. As for the other countries the article only says EU and non EU so can't be more specific"
True, they do have a choice but trading with the EU has become more difficult so in truth less appealing . Like I said , we still haven’t signed an improved trade deal |
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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago
milton keynes |
"And I'll also add that hundreds of businesses had been stockpiling before Brexit, so that had a slowdown on exports too.
Easy to find - But ONLY if you want to of course.
Let’s say that was partially, mostly, or even wholly true - which we all know it isn’t.
Which it is:
"KPMG said intense stockpiling in December 2020 had brought some trade flows ahead of the Brexit deadline.
The ONS said companies may have been using up that stock instead of buying new goods in January."
That may have been true for month one, but the OP has linked to a report covering the first three months.
Let’s look again in July, when Q2 figures are in and let’s also remember that the U.K. has not yet implemented its side of the deal for fear of food shortages.
I would much prefer Brexit supporters who say they knew what they were voting for to at least admit that they knew that border friction would occur, they knew that the consequential drop in exports would be damaging and they knew that there was a potential for a reduction in imports and exports would harm the economy.
Why not just admit that you voted for economic harm because it was a price worth paying for Brexit? At least it would make you honest.
As said the latest figures on the BBC show an improving picture as pre stock piled goods run down and businesses are starting to favour non EU countries over EU countries.
Favour? They don’t have a choice,
Of course they have a choice as the fact that companies still buy stuff from the EU proves but at the moment they are no longer the go to place
Obviously they aren’t due to the terrible deal we signed , exporting to the EU is far more difficult now . Do you know which countries are now in favour ?
You said they don't have a choice which is factually incorrect. Companies do still trade with the EU. If they did not have a choice how is it still happening. As for the other countries the article only says EU and non EU so can't be more specific
True, they do have a choice but trading with the EU has become more difficult so in truth less appealing . Like I said , we still haven’t signed an improved trade deal "
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"And I'll also add that hundreds of businesses had been stockpiling before Brexit, so that had a slowdown on exports too.
Easy to find - But ONLY if you want to of course.
Let’s say that was partially, mostly, or even wholly true - which we all know it isn’t.
Which it is:
"KPMG said intense stockpiling in December 2020 had brought some trade flows ahead of the Brexit deadline.
The ONS said companies may have been using up that stock instead of buying new goods in January."
That may have been true for month one, but the OP has linked to a report covering the first three months.
Let’s look again in July, when Q2 figures are in and let’s also remember that the U.K. has not yet implemented its side of the deal for fear of food shortages.
I would much prefer Brexit supporters who say they knew what they were voting for to at least admit that they knew that border friction would occur, they knew that the consequential drop in exports would be damaging and they knew that there was a potential for a reduction in imports and exports would harm the economy.
Why not just admit that you voted for economic harm because it was a price worth paying for Brexit? At least it would make you honest.
As said the latest figures on the BBC show an improving picture as pre stock piled goods run down and businesses are starting to favour non EU countries over EU countries.
Favour? They don’t have a choice,
Of course they have a choice as the fact that companies still buy stuff from the EU proves but at the moment they are no longer the go to place
Obviously they aren’t due to the terrible deal we signed , exporting to the EU is far more difficult now . Do you know which countries are now in favour ?
You said they don't have a choice which is factually incorrect. Companies do still trade with the EU. If they did not have a choice how is it still happening. As for the other countries the article only says EU and non EU so can't be more specific
True, they do have a choice but trading with the EU has become more difficult so in truth less appealing . Like I said , we still haven’t signed an improved trade deal
Thanks for acknowledging you were wrong. "
Yes I was wrong, I get things wrong all the time, luckily it’s only a sex site forum
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"And I'll also add that hundreds of businesses had been stockpiling before Brexit, so that had a slowdown on exports too.
Easy to find - But ONLY if you want to of course.
Let’s say that was partially, mostly, or even wholly true - which we all know it isn’t.
Which it is:
"KPMG said intense stockpiling in December 2020 had brought some trade flows ahead of the Brexit deadline.
The ONS said companies may have been using up that stock instead of buying new goods in January."
That may have been true for month one, but the OP has linked to a report covering the first three months.
Let’s look again in July, when Q2 figures are in and let’s also remember that the U.K. has not yet implemented its side of the deal for fear of food shortages.
I would much prefer Brexit supporters who say they knew what they were voting for to at least admit that they knew that border friction would occur, they knew that the consequential drop in exports would be damaging and they knew that there was a potential for a reduction in imports and exports would harm the economy.
Why not just admit that you voted for economic harm because it was a price worth paying for Brexit? At least it would make you honest.
As said the latest figures on the BBC show an improving picture as pre stock piled goods run down and businesses are starting to favour non EU countries over EU countries.
Favour? They don’t have a choice,
Of course they have a choice as the fact that companies still buy stuff from the EU proves but at the moment they are no longer the go to place
Obviously they aren’t due to the terrible deal we signed , exporting to the EU is far more difficult now . Do you know which countries are now in favour ?
You said they don't have a choice which is factually incorrect. Companies do still trade with the EU. If they did not have a choice how is it still happening. As for the other countries the article only says EU and non EU so can't be more specific
True, they do have a choice but trading with the EU has become more difficult so in truth less appealing . Like I said , we still haven’t signed an improved trade deal
Thanks for acknowledging you were wrong.
Yes I was wrong, I get things wrong all the time, luckily it’s only a sex site forum
anyway, when are we going to sign an ‘improved ‘ trade deal?? " Its nice to know that you have faith in the government and that you are disappointed they haven't signed any new deals in the last four months during a pandemic which the eu usually take decades to sign.Keep up the positive vibs. |
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"And I'll also add that hundreds of businesses had been stockpiling before Brexit, so that had a slowdown on exports too.
Easy to find - But ONLY if you want to of course.
Let’s say that was partially, mostly, or even wholly true - which we all know it isn’t.
Which it is:
"KPMG said intense stockpiling in December 2020 had brought some trade flows ahead of the Brexit deadline.
The ONS said companies may have been using up that stock instead of buying new goods in January."
That may have been true for month one, but the OP has linked to a report covering the first three months.
Let’s look again in July, when Q2 figures are in and let’s also remember that the U.K. has not yet implemented its side of the deal for fear of food shortages.
I would much prefer Brexit supporters who say they knew what they were voting for to at least admit that they knew that border friction would occur, they knew that the consequential drop in exports would be damaging and they knew that there was a potential for a reduction in imports and exports would harm the economy.
Why not just admit that you voted for economic harm because it was a price worth paying for Brexit? At least it would make you honest.
As said the latest figures on the BBC show an improving picture as pre stock piled goods run down and businesses are starting to favour non EU countries over EU countries.
Favour? They don’t have a choice,
Of course they have a choice as the fact that companies still buy stuff from the EU proves but at the moment they are no longer the go to place
Obviously they aren’t due to the terrible deal we signed , exporting to the EU is far more difficult now . Do you know which countries are now in favour ?
You said they don't have a choice which is factually incorrect. Companies do still trade with the EU. If they did not have a choice how is it still happening. As for the other countries the article only says EU and non EU so can't be more specific
True, they do have a choice but trading with the EU has become more difficult so in truth less appealing . Like I said , we still haven’t signed an improved trade deal
Thanks for acknowledging you were wrong.
Yes I was wrong, I get things wrong all the time, luckily it’s only a sex site forum
anyway, when are we going to sign an ‘improved ‘ trade deal?? Its nice to know that you have faith in the government and that you are disappointed they haven't signed any new deals in the last four months during a pandemic which the eu usually take decades to sign.Keep up the positive vibs. "
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"Actually the very best thing about Brexit is it saves so much time deciding who we are never under any circumstances going to have sex with. " Thats very true its about having fun and some on here seem no fun at all. |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
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"And I'll also add that hundreds of businesses had been stockpiling before Brexit, so that had a slowdown on exports too.
Easy to find - But ONLY if you want to of course.
Let’s say that was partially, mostly, or even wholly true - which we all know it isn’t.
Which it is:
"KPMG said intense stockpiling in December 2020 had brought some trade flows ahead of the Brexit deadline.
The ONS said companies may have been using up that stock instead of buying new goods in January."
That may have been true for month one, but the OP has linked to a report covering the first three months.
Let’s look again in July, when Q2 figures are in and let’s also remember that the U.K. has not yet implemented its side of the deal for fear of food shortages.
I would much prefer Brexit supporters who say they knew what they were voting for to at least admit that they knew that border friction would occur, they knew that the consequential drop in exports would be damaging and they knew that there was a potential for a reduction in imports and exports would harm the economy.
Why not just admit that you voted for economic harm because it was a price worth paying for Brexit? At least it would make you honest.
As said the latest figures on the BBC show an improving picture as pre stock piled goods run down and businesses are starting to favour non EU countries over EU countries.
Favour? They don’t have a choice,
Of course they have a choice as the fact that companies still buy stuff from the EU proves but at the moment they are no longer the go to place
Obviously they aren’t due to the terrible deal we signed , exporting to the EU is far more difficult now . Do you know which countries are now in favour ?
It's no more difficult than any other country though. More difficult than before though, granted."
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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago
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"And I'll also add that hundreds of businesses had been stockpiling before Brexit, so that had a slowdown on exports too.
Easy to find - But ONLY if you want to of course.
Let’s say that was partially, mostly, or even wholly true - which we all know it isn’t.
Which it is:
"KPMG said intense stockpiling in December 2020 had brought some trade flows ahead of the Brexit deadline.
The ONS said companies may have been using up that stock instead of buying new goods in January."
That may have been true for month one, but the OP has linked to a report covering the first three months.
Let’s look again in July, when Q2 figures are in and let’s also remember that the U.K. has not yet implemented its side of the deal for fear of food shortages.
I would much prefer Brexit supporters who say they knew what they were voting for to at least admit that they knew that border friction would occur, they knew that the consequential drop in exports would be damaging and they knew that there was a potential for a reduction in imports and exports would harm the economy.
Why not just admit that you voted for economic harm because it was a price worth paying for Brexit? At least it would make you honest.
As said the latest figures on the BBC show an improving picture as pre stock piled goods run down and businesses are starting to favour non EU countries over EU countries.
Favour? They don’t have a choice,
Of course they have a choice as the fact that companies still buy stuff from the EU proves but at the moment they are no longer the go to place
Obviously they aren’t due to the terrible deal we signed , exporting to the EU is far more difficult now . Do you know which countries are now in favour ?
It's no more difficult than any other country though. More difficult than before though, granted.
Procedures are different . It is more difficult "
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"And I'll also add that hundreds of businesses had been stockpiling before Brexit, so that had a slowdown on exports too.
Easy to find - But ONLY if you want to of course.
Let’s say that was partially, mostly, or even wholly true - which we all know it isn’t.
Which it is:
"KPMG said intense stockpiling in December 2020 had brought some trade flows ahead of the Brexit deadline.
The ONS said companies may have been using up that stock instead of buying new goods in January."
That may have been true for month one, but the OP has linked to a report covering the first three months.
Let’s look again in July, when Q2 figures are in and let’s also remember that the U.K. has not yet implemented its side of the deal for fear of food shortages.
I would much prefer Brexit supporters who say they knew what they were voting for to at least admit that they knew that border friction would occur, they knew that the consequential drop in exports would be damaging and they knew that there was a potential for a reduction in imports and exports would harm the economy.
Why not just admit that you voted for economic harm because it was a price worth paying for Brexit? At least it would make you honest.
As said the latest figures on the BBC show an improving picture as pre stock piled goods run down and businesses are starting to favour non EU countries over EU countries.
Favour? They don’t have a choice,
Of course they have a choice as the fact that companies still buy stuff from the EU proves but at the moment they are no longer the go to place
Obviously they aren’t due to the terrible deal we signed , exporting to the EU is far more difficult now . Do you know which countries are now in favour ?
It's no more difficult than any other country though. More difficult than before though, granted.
Procedures are different . It is more difficult "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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See. Proof that you can be happy and carefree and look to the future with hope. Whatever you believe has happened it's happened. Now it's time to get behind the wheel and push with the rest of us.
Is that what those who were against EU membership from 1987 did ?
Farage certainly didnt .
Bit arrogant to say everyone should push when he obviously didnt .
You can have your own conversation with yourself about Farage if you like, but I was actually talking to the OP. lmao. "
Yes you were
You made a statement we should all push etc .
Hence why i responded with Farage & 1 or 2 on here
Using the phrase not since 1987
Still as was said .
Pre brexit.its not ok for everyone
Post brexit , everyone is supposed to
be pushing .
Hence why should we
if you lot werent ?
ROTFLMAO
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"And I'll also add that hundreds of businesses had been stockpiling before Brexit, so that had a slowdown on exports too.
Easy to find - But ONLY if you want to of course.
Meanwhile in the Real World life goes on...
I would answer, but you didn't actually say anything.
That made laugh
See. Proof that you can be happy and carefree and look to the future with hope. Whatever you believe has happened it's happened. Now it's time to get behind the wheel and push with the rest of us.
Is that what those who were against EU membership from 1987 did ?
Farage certainly didnt .
Bit arrogant to say everyone should push when he obviously didnt .
You have remember that crying, moaning whining and obstruction whilst we were in the EU was ok, any dissent after we have left, not ok "
I very much do
They bitched about it for just shy of 30 years
1987-2016
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"And I'll also add that hundreds of businesses had been stockpiling before Brexit, so that had a slowdown on exports too.
Easy to find - But ONLY if you want to of course.
Meanwhile in the Real World life goes on...
I would answer, but you didn't actually say anything.
That made laugh
See. Proof that you can be happy and carefree and look to the future with hope. Whatever you believe has happened it's happened. Now it's time to get behind the wheel and push with the rest of us.
And therein lies the problem
There's no point pushing when there's nobody behind the wheel."
Oh there is pushing ,
Its Just off the cliff as there is nobody steering the wheel
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"And I'll also add that hundreds of businesses had been stockpiling before Brexit, so that had a slowdown on exports too.
Easy to find - But ONLY if you want to of course.
Let’s say that was partially, mostly, or even wholly true - which we all know it isn’t.
Which it is:
"KPMG said intense stockpiling in December 2020 had brought some trade flows ahead of the Brexit deadline.
The ONS said companies may have been using up that stock instead of buying new goods in January."
That may have been true for month one, but the OP has linked to a report covering the first three months.
Let’s look again in July, when Q2 figures are in and let’s also remember that the U.K. has not yet implemented its side of the deal for fear of food shortages.
I would much prefer Brexit supporters who say they knew what they were voting for to at least admit that they knew that border friction would occur, they knew that the consequential drop in exports would be damaging and they knew that there was a potential for a reduction in imports and exports would harm the economy.
Why not just admit that you voted for economic harm because it was a price worth paying for Brexit? At least it would make you honest.
As said the latest figures on the BBC show an improving picture as pre stock piled goods run down and businesses are starting to favour non EU countries over EU countries.
Favour? They don’t have a choice,
Of course they have a choice as the fact that companies still buy stuff from the EU proves but at the moment they are no longer the go to place
Obviously they aren’t due to the terrible deal we signed , exporting to the EU is far more difficult now . Do you know which countries are now in favour ?
It's no more difficult than any other country though. More difficult than before though, granted.
That’s my point, once the pandemic is over we will get a true reflection on export numbers, we still haven’t signed any ‘improved’ trade deals "
7 just so ya know
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
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"And I'll also add that hundreds of businesses had been stockpiling before Brexit, so that had a slowdown on exports too.
Easy to find - But ONLY if you want to of course.
Let’s say that was partially, mostly, or even wholly true - which we all know it isn’t.
Which it is:
"KPMG said intense stockpiling in December 2020 had brought some trade flows ahead of the Brexit deadline.
The ONS said companies may have been using up that stock instead of buying new goods in January."
That may have been true for month one, but the OP has linked to a report covering the first three months.
Let’s look again in July, when Q2 figures are in and let’s also remember that the U.K. has not yet implemented its side of the deal for fear of food shortages.
I would much prefer Brexit supporters who say they knew what they were voting for to at least admit that they knew that border friction would occur, they knew that the consequential drop in exports would be damaging and they knew that there was a potential for a reduction in imports and exports would harm the economy.
Why not just admit that you voted for economic harm because it was a price worth paying for Brexit? At least it would make you honest.
As said the latest figures on the BBC show an improving picture as pre stock piled goods run down and businesses are starting to favour non EU countries over EU countries.
Favour? They don’t have a choice,
Of course they have a choice as the fact that companies still buy stuff from the EU proves but at the moment they are no longer the go to place
Obviously they aren’t due to the terrible deal we signed , exporting to the EU is far more difficult now . Do you know which countries are now in favour ?
It's no more difficult than any other country though. More difficult than before though, granted.
Procedures are different . It is more difficult
Of course procedures are different. They are for all. What specifically makes trading with the EU more difficult?"
I’ve bored everyone to death with this. So I won’t repeat myself. Our deep sea exports are far simpler and cheaper to execute than exports to the EU.
And for the record there are no divert costs or additional procedures for the EU exports to the U.K. only raising of documents. No stops are made on imports as HMRC aren’t ready until 2022. Why else do we have the delay?
Gove said government was ready.. oh hang on can we have another year? U.K. Business should be so lucky. Lies and more lies on top.
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
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"And I'll also add that hundreds of businesses had been stockpiling before Brexit, so that had a slowdown on exports too.
Easy to find - But ONLY if you want to of course.
Let’s say that was partially, mostly, or even wholly true - which we all know it isn’t.
Which it is:
"KPMG said intense stockpiling in December 2020 had brought some trade flows ahead of the Brexit deadline.
The ONS said companies may have been using up that stock instead of buying new goods in January."
That may have been true for month one, but the OP has linked to a report covering the first three months.
Let’s look again in July, when Q2 figures are in and let’s also remember that the U.K. has not yet implemented its side of the deal for fear of food shortages.
I would much prefer Brexit supporters who say they knew what they were voting for to at least admit that they knew that border friction would occur, they knew that the consequential drop in exports would be damaging and they knew that there was a potential for a reduction in imports and exports would harm the economy.
Why not just admit that you voted for economic harm because it was a price worth paying for Brexit? At least it would make you honest.
As said the latest figures on the BBC show an improving picture as pre stock piled goods run down and businesses are starting to favour non EU countries over EU countries.
Favour? They don’t have a choice,
Of course they have a choice as the fact that companies still buy stuff from the EU proves but at the moment they are no longer the go to place
Obviously they aren’t due to the terrible deal we signed , exporting to the EU is far more difficult now . Do you know which countries are now in favour ?
It's no more difficult than any other country though. More difficult than before though, granted.
That’s my point, once the pandemic is over we will get a true reflection on export numbers, we still haven’t signed any ‘improved’ trade deals
7 just so ya know
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"And I'll also add that hundreds of businesses had been stockpiling before Brexit, so that had a slowdown on exports too.
Easy to find - But ONLY if you want to of course.
Let’s say that was partially, mostly, or even wholly true - which we all know it isn’t.
Which it is:
"KPMG said intense stockpiling in December 2020 had brought some trade flows ahead of the Brexit deadline.
The ONS said companies may have been using up that stock instead of buying new goods in January."
That may have been true for month one, but the OP has linked to a report covering the first three months.
Let’s look again in July, when Q2 figures are in and let’s also remember that the U.K. has not yet implemented its side of the deal for fear of food shortages.
I would much prefer Brexit supporters who say they knew what they were voting for to at least admit that they knew that border friction would occur, they knew that the consequential drop in exports would be damaging and they knew that there was a potential for a reduction in imports and exports would harm the economy.
Why not just admit that you voted for economic harm because it was a price worth paying for Brexit? At least it would make you honest.
As said the latest figures on the BBC show an improving picture as pre stock piled goods run down and businesses are starting to favour non EU countries over EU countries.
Favour? They don’t have a choice,
Of course they have a choice as the fact that companies still buy stuff from the EU proves but at the moment they are no longer the go to place
Obviously they aren’t due to the terrible deal we signed , exporting to the EU is far more difficult now . Do you know which countries are now in favour ?
It's no more difficult than any other country though. More difficult than before though, granted.
That’s my point, once the pandemic is over we will get a true reflection on export numbers, we still haven’t signed any ‘improved’ trade deals
7 just so ya know
Interesting to know how they’ve improved on that which we had before though?. "
We havent improved
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By (user no longer on site)
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"How did the UK get it so very wrong?
https://www.euronews.com/2021/03/31/brexit-three-months-on-uk-eu-trade-trouble-deeper-than-teething-problems-say-producers
Never mind, as has been said numerous times, it take 10 to 20 years before the UK might see any benifit from leaving the EU so...
..in reality
Loss of exports across the board is really things going to plan
"Carry on Believing""
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"And I'll also add that hundreds of businesses had been stockpiling before Brexit, so that had a slowdown on exports too.
Easy to find - But ONLY if you want to of course.
Let’s say that was partially, mostly, or even wholly true - which we all know it isn’t.
Which it is:
"KPMG said intense stockpiling in December 2020 had brought some trade flows ahead of the Brexit deadline.
The ONS said companies may have been using up that stock instead of buying new goods in January."
That may have been true for month one, but the OP has linked to a report covering the first three months.
Let’s look again in July, when Q2 figures are in and let’s also remember that the U.K. has not yet implemented its side of the deal for fear of food shortages.
I would much prefer Brexit supporters who say they knew what they were voting for to at least admit that they knew that border friction would occur, they knew that the consequential drop in exports would be damaging and they knew that there was a potential for a reduction in imports and exports would harm the economy.
Why not just admit that you voted for economic harm because it was a price worth paying for Brexit? At least it would make you honest.
As said the latest figures on the BBC show an improving picture as pre stock piled goods run down and businesses are starting to favour non EU countries over EU countries.
Favour? They don’t have a choice,
Of course they have a choice as the fact that companies still buy stuff from the EU proves but at the moment they are no longer the go to place
Obviously they aren’t due to the terrible deal we signed , exporting to the EU is far more difficult now . Do you know which countries are now in favour ?
It's no more difficult than any other country though. More difficult than before though, granted.
That’s my point, once the pandemic is over we will get a true reflection on export numbers, we still haven’t signed any ‘improved’ trade deals
7 just so ya know
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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"https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/may/13/eu-citizens-arriving-in-uk-being-locked-up-and-expelled
Yayy..go us."
At least we don't beat them up . . .
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2021/may/05/revealed-2000-refugee-deaths-linked-to-eu-pushbacks
"A Guardian analysis finds EU countries used brutal tactics to stop nearly 40,000 asylum seekers crossing borders" |
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