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By *atEvolution OP Couple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
https://news.sky.com/story/nazanin-zaghari-ratcliffe-uk-to-pay-tehran-400m-to-free-british-iranian-national-state-tv-reports-12293267
"The UK will pay £400m to Tehran to free Iranian-British woman Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe, according to reports on Iranian state TV."
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"https://news.sky.com/story/nazanin-zaghari-ratcliffe-uk-to-pay-tehran-400m-to-free-british-iranian-national-state-tv-reports-12293267
"The UK will pay £400m to Tehran to free Iranian-British woman Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe, according to reports on Iranian state TV."
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Not to pay back the £400 million back in 1979 was utterly ridiculous anyway. |
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By *ammskiMan
over a year ago
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"Let's hope so. Her current situation is just one more thing for the list of Johnson clusterfucks.
Any other time of politics would have seen Boris resign over such a monumental fuck up. "
Don,t think he will last too long |
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By *atEvolution OP Couple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
"https://news.sky.com/story/nazanin-zaghari-ratcliffe-uk-to-pay-tehran-400m-to-free-british-iranian-national-state-tv-reports-12293267
"The UK will pay £400m to Tehran to free Iranian-British woman Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe, according to reports on Iranian state TV."
Not to pay back the £400 million back in 1979 was utterly ridiculous anyway. "
It wasn't quite that simple at the time though. As there was an embargo on anything to Iran including Weapons. Technology and Money.
It should have been sorted many years later however. |
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"Let's hope so. Her current situation is just one more thing for the list of Johnson clusterfucks.
Any other time of politics would have seen Boris resign over such a monumental fuck up. "
Instead just bluster over it and pretend it didnt happen
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
The £400 million owed to Iran, was signed off for repayment by HM Treasury, back in 2002!
EU sanctions meant that it was illegal to pay it but now we no longer part of the EU, then we now can.
However, the situation is further complicated by the upcoming elections in Iran, where the ruling party wish to show a hardline against the West. Once these elections are out of the way, then the money will be handed over and she will be free to return to the UK.
This is all part of a new phenomenon of "hostage diplomacy". Iran, China, North Korea have all taken part and it may become the norm going forward. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"The £400 million owed to Iran, was signed off for repayment by HM Treasury, back in 2002!
EU sanctions meant that it was illegal to pay it but now we no longer part of the EU, then we now can.
However, the situation is further complicated by the upcoming elections in Iran, where the ruling party wish to show a hardline against the West. Once these elections are out of the way, then the money will be handed over and she will be free to return to the UK.
This is all part of a new phenomenon of "hostage diplomacy". Iran, China, North Korea have all taken part and it may become the norm going forward. "
Can’t pay it back at the moment because of the US ban on goods and services with Iran…. If they pay it then in essence no uk company can do any business in the US whatsoever |
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"Let's hope so. Her current situation is just one more thing for the list of Johnson clusterfucks.
Any other time of politics would have seen Boris resign over such a monumental fuck up. Don,t think he will last too long"
To be fair he will probably get reelected as we have no decent opposition |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"The £400 million owed to Iran, was signed off for repayment by HM Treasury, back in 2002!
EU sanctions meant that it was illegal to pay it but now we no longer part of the EU, then we now can.
However, the situation is further complicated by the upcoming elections in Iran, where the ruling party wish to show a hardline against the West. Once these elections are out of the way, then the money will be handed over and she will be free to return to the UK.
This is all part of a new phenomenon of "hostage diplomacy". Iran, China, North Korea have all taken part and it may become the norm going forward.
Can’t pay it back at the moment because of the US ban on goods and services with Iran…. If they pay it then in essence no uk company can do any business in the US whatsoever "
Yet it didn't stop President Obama paying roughly the same sum to Iran!
The release of four Americans held in Iran was purely coincidental.  |
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It's absolutely This Disgustin she went out there knowing the risk She made a choice as a adult now she needs to live with it now the message out there now is if you're broken state and you have opportunity to take prisoners and then black mail the uk government. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Let's hope so. Her current situation is just one more thing for the list of Johnson clusterfucks. "
No it is not she was in prison long before Boris came along stop trying to blame him for everything it is discracefull
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"So basically she has been held on trumped up charges and used as a political negotiation tool, disgracefully "
We do not know that we assume this,when British people get arrested abroad we allways assume they are innocent.
I think she may well be but we should not assume this.
We will do a deal but we will not give them most of the money we owe them as we cannot afford it right now although the Iranians have a good point we have cheated and stolen from them not the right thing to do
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"It's absolutely This Disgustin she went out there knowing the risk She made a choice as a adult now she needs to live with it now the message out there now is if you're broken state and you have opportunity to take prisoners and then black mail the uk government."
Probally churlish to point out she is actually an Iranian-British citizen |
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over a year ago
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"Let's hope so. Her current situation is just one more thing for the list of Johnson clusterfucks. "
im not a boris fan but im struggling to understand why it's is fault did she not go of her own free will which was a stupid idea.
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"Let's hope so. Her current situation is just one more thing for the list of Johnson clusterfucks. im not a boris fan but im struggling to understand why it's is fault did she not go of her own free will which was a stupid idea."
I suggest you do some reading on what the idiot said. |
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"Let's hope so. Her current situation is just one more thing for the list of Johnson clusterfucks. im not a boris fan but im struggling to understand why it's is fault did she not go of her own free will which was a stupid idea.
I suggest you do some reading on what the idiot said."
thanks for your suggestion I do no what he said but she was already there so again why is it his fault I blame her for going in the first place.
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"Let's hope so. Her current situation is just one more thing for the list of Johnson clusterfucks. im not a boris fan but im struggling to understand why it's is fault did she not go of her own free will which was a stupid idea.
I suggest you do some reading on what the idiot said. thanks for your suggestion I do no what he said but she was already there so again why is it his fault I blame her for going in the first place.
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She is an Iranian British citizen. |
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over a year ago
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"Let's hope so. Her current situation is just one more thing for the list of Johnson clusterfucks. im not a boris fan but im struggling to understand why it's is fault did she not go of her own free will which was a stupid idea.
I suggest you do some reading on what the idiot said. thanks for your suggestion I do no what he said but she was already there so again why is it his fault I blame her for going in the first place.
She is an Iranian British citizen."
and if she's iranian then nothing to do with us if british I still say her fault for going can't have best of both. |
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"Let's hope so. Her current situation is just one more thing for the list of Johnson clusterfucks. im not a boris fan but im struggling to understand why it's is fault did she not go of her own free will which was a stupid idea.
I suggest you do some reading on what the idiot said. thanks for your suggestion I do no what he said but she was already there so again why is it his fault I blame her for going in the first place.
She is an Iranian British citizen.and if she's iranian then nothing to do with us if british I still say her fault for going can't have best of both."
So a person cannot visit her own country? |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"The £400 million owed to Iran, was signed off for repayment by HM Treasury, back in 2002!
EU sanctions meant that it was illegal to pay it but now we no longer part of the EU, then we now can.
However, the situation is further complicated by the upcoming elections in Iran, where the ruling party wish to show a hardline against the West. Once these elections are out of the way, then the money will be handed over and she will be free to return to the UK.
This is all part of a new phenomenon of "hostage diplomacy". Iran, China, North Korea have all taken part and it may become the norm going forward.
Can’t pay it back at the moment because of the US ban on goods and services with Iran…. If they pay it then in essence no uk company can do any business in the US whatsoever
Yet it didn't stop President Obama paying roughly the same sum to Iran!
The release of four Americans held in Iran was purely coincidental. "
Actually ironically it was for the same reason… it was the money owned to Iran for military sales in 1979 for equipment that never arrived….
It was removed as part of the JCPOA agreement….
It was the trump administration that not only put on the ban when they withdrew from the agreement… they explicitly warned people they would do this if anyone traded with Iran… which is why french oil magnate Total had to pull out of big deals they had for oil drilling |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Let's hope so. Her current situation is just one more thing for the list of Johnson clusterfucks. im not a boris fan but im struggling to understand why it's is fault did she not go of her own free will which was a stupid idea.
I suggest you do some reading on what the idiot said. thanks for your suggestion I do no what he said but she was already there so again why is it his fault I blame her for going in the first place.
She is an Iranian British citizen.and if she's iranian then nothing to do with us if british I still say her fault for going can't have best of both."
Erm…. She lived in Britain married to a British guy … she took her daughter out there to see her grandparents…. Nothing more! |
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"Let's hope so. Her current situation is just one more thing for the list of Johnson clusterfucks. im not a boris fan but im struggling to understand why it's is fault did she not go of her own free will which was a stupid idea.
I suggest you do some reading on what the idiot said. thanks for your suggestion I do no what he said but she was already there so again why is it his fault I blame her for going in the first place.
She is an Iranian British citizen.and if she's iranian then nothing to do with us if british I still say her fault for going can't have best of both.
So a person cannot visit her own country?"
yes ov course they can but as she married a english man then what did she expect from such a backward county she put her self in the firing line so for me no one else to blame not saying what they have done to her is correct but she put herself in the situation so no one else to blame. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Let's hope so. Her current situation is just one more thing for the list of Johnson clusterfucks. im not a boris fan but im struggling to understand why it's is fault did she not go of her own free will which was a stupid idea.
I suggest you do some reading on what the idiot said. thanks for your suggestion I do no what he said but she was already there so again why is it his fault I blame her for going in the first place.
She is an Iranian British citizen.and if she's iranian then nothing to do with us if british I still say her fault for going can't have best of both.
Erm…. She lived in Britain married to a British guy … she took her daughter out there to see her grandparents…. Nothing more! "
yes _abio correct but how silly of her to go knowing how much they ate the west what did she expect from these idiots. |
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The comments from boris before were certainly crass and did not do her case any favors, but what he said is not reason she has been held or is still being held prisoner at all and like someone else said going back to historic tank debt we have been prevented from paying the money to Iran due to sanctions that would have been imposed on us. The Iranians have been disgraceful using a innocent woman as a political bargaining tool. |
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"The comments from boris before were certainly crass and did not do her case any favors, but what he said is not reason she has been held or is still being held prisoner at all and like someone else said going back to historic tank debt we have been prevented from paying the money to Iran due to sanctions that would have been imposed on us. The Iranians have been disgraceful using a innocent woman as a political bargaining tool."
Crass is a slight understatement.
He was foreign secretary at the time and his comments were utterly astonishing. |
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"The comments from boris before were certainly crass and did not do her case any favors, but what he said is not reason she has been held or is still being held prisoner at all and like someone else said going back to historic tank debt we have been prevented from paying the money to Iran due to sanctions that would have been imposed on us. The Iranians have been disgraceful using a innocent woman as a political bargaining tool.
Crass is a slight understatement.
He was foreign secretary at the time and his comments were utterly astonishing."
Lol ok guess my wording was not strong enough for you, yes they were astonishing for someone in that position I totally agree, my point was more that the reason she is still being detained is not to do with what someone said or didn’t, as I said she is being used as a political tool by the Iranians which is totally wrong. |
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