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"Brexit as a concept was understandable. However the delivery has been an absolute farce, littered with lies, half-truths and incompetence. Whilst any agreement is full of pros and cons, we seem to be stumbling into a con at every turn. " Inevitable though. There was never going to be a deal as good as being in the EU. | |||
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"Brexit as a concept was understandable." The problem was that everyone understood something different. It wasn't a choice of option A vs option B. It was a choice of option A, which we know changes slowly and the best option B that you can imagine in the best of all possible worlds. Campaigning against all the option Bs was impossible. | |||
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"Brexit as a concept was understandable. However the delivery has been an absolute farce, littered with lies, half-truths and incompetence. Whilst any agreement is full of pros and cons, we seem to be stumbling into a con at every turn. " Not littered with lies but the deal was not a good one and hopefully will change ver the years. The problem I believe was trying to keep the promise of the deadline when we leave this need to be more flexible to get the right deal whatever that is. No lies where made just statements of intent that have not yet been delivered and might not be for years due to covid | |||
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"Brexit as a concept was understandable. However the delivery has been an absolute farce, littered with lies, half-truths and incompetence. Whilst any agreement is full of pros and cons, we seem to be stumbling into a con at every turn. Inevitable though. There was never going to be a deal as good as being in the EU." We are better off out of the failing EU you will know this in time we should never have joined | |||
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"Brexit as a concept was understandable. However the delivery has been an absolute farce, littered with lies, half-truths and incompetence. Whilst any agreement is full of pros and cons, we seem to be stumbling into a con at every turn. Inevitable though. There was never going to be a deal as good as being in the EU."  | |||
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"Brexit as a concept was understandable. However the delivery has been an absolute farce, littered with lies, half-truths and incompetence. Whilst any agreement is full of pros and cons, we seem to be stumbling into a con at every turn. Inevitable though. There was never going to be a deal as good as being in the EU.We are better off out of the failing EU you will know this in time we should never have joined" In what way are we better Emma? | |||
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"Brexit as a concept was understandable. However the delivery has been an absolute farce, littered with lies, half-truths and incompetence. Whilst any agreement is full of pros and cons, we seem to be stumbling into a con at every turn. Inevitable though. There was never going to be a deal as good as being in the EU." Of course there wasn't. Not with the EU. That was obvious to the majority. I don't think the majority had a problem trading with the EU. It's just all the other crap that went with it! | |||
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"Brexit as a concept was understandable. However the delivery has been an absolute farce, littered with lies, half-truths and incompetence. Whilst any agreement is full of pros and cons, we seem to be stumbling into a con at every turn. Not littered with lies but the deal was not a good one and hopefully will change ver the years. The problem I believe was trying to keep the promise of the deadline when we leave this need to be more flexible to get the right deal whatever that is. No lies where made just statements of intent that have not yet been delivered and might not be for years due to covid" No lies! I can only guess you've not seen any news since 2014 then  | |||
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"Bollocks! "We know what we voted for" Why would the Brexiteers want to revisit this? Surely the "World Beating" deal along with sovereignty and the chance to rebuild the Empire has been achieved. Without trying to put words into the mouths of those who voted to leave the EU, I would assume that the less the UK had to do with the EU, the happier they would be. So what if businesses in the EU have found other companies to replace items that the UK previously supplied, what does it matter that exports to the EU are in trouble? The opportunities with the trade deals to Japan, Australia etc. are there to more than make up for short term losses - or so the Brexit mantra would have us all believe. New jobs have been created to more than make up for businesses that have moved their base to the EU and unemployment is still relatively low in comparison to other similar countries in the EU so surely the UK is in a strong position? Where does the BBC dredge up this rubbish? BBC News - Pressure mounts to reopen Brexit deal https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-56931396 ...or do they have a point?" Your assumption that people who voted for brexit wanted less to do with Europe is wrong. They just don't want to be in the EU club which is not the same thing at all. We still trade with Europe just not as a member state. People on here often say we have lost all trade with Europe in favour of other regions where in reality we still trade with Europe just in a different way. Looking at the graphs on the BBC the imports and exports have dropped under covid understandably. The gap between the two is much the same, if anything the gap has narrowed though not easy to say until restrictions are lifted here and in Europe | |||
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"Brexit negotiations will never end. For some people the energy being wasted on attempting to stay “distant” and “better” is seemingly preferable than having a fixed set of rules that everyone adheres to. As another poster said on another thread, this nonsense will likely continue for years until people simply tire of Brexit not being done and continuous “fury” and “outrage” stories in the paper. At that time we will likely settle into some kind of existing trading framework that already exists (EEA). " If the UK govt gets their way, Brexit will be never ending. It's of too much value to point to bullying Brussels bureaucrats stopping the UK achieve full potential. Welcome to the eternal Brexit. And the other thing that has to pointed out, Brexit is an entirely self inflicted wound. It didn't have to be like this but here we are. | |||
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"Bollocks! "We know what we voted for" Why would the Brexiteers want to revisit this? Surely the "World Beating" deal along with sovereignty and the chance to rebuild the Empire has been achieved. Without trying to put words into the mouths of those who voted to leave the EU, I would assume that the less the UK had to do with the EU, the happier they would be. So what if businesses in the EU have found other companies to replace items that the UK previously supplied, what does it matter that exports to the EU are in trouble? The opportunities with the trade deals to Japan, Australia etc. are there to more than make up for short term losses - or so the Brexit mantra would have us all believe. New jobs have been created to more than make up for businesses that have moved their base to the EU and unemployment is still relatively low in comparison to other similar countries in the EU so surely the UK is in a strong position? Where does the BBC dredge up this rubbish? BBC News - Pressure mounts to reopen Brexit deal https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-56931396 ...or do they have a point? Your assumption that people who voted for brexit wanted less to do with Europe is wrong. They just don't want to be in the EU club which is not the same thing at all. We still trade with Europe just not as a member state. People on here often say we have lost all trade with Europe in favour of other regions where in reality we still trade with Europe just in a different way. Looking at the graphs on the BBC the imports and exports have dropped under covid understandably. The gap between the two is much the same, if anything the gap has narrowed though not easy to say until restrictions are lifted here and in Europe" The UK saw much, much more damage both to its imports and to its exports than any of the EU's other main trading partners did. The UK has one of the worst trading deficits with the EU over the last year. This is in comparison with all the main trading partners with only the US being worse. The UK is down about €23billion. After this is Switzerland at €6.6bn, Turkey at €0.8bn, and the rest apart from China and Russia coming out about even. Both Russia and China saw increased trade with tue EU. These figures take Covid out of the equation and show the Brexit impact. Full report and table can be downloaded from the links below. https://t.co/paONG6zo4o https://t.co/CyNUnMUO0H | |||
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"Brexit as a concept was understandable. However the delivery has been an absolute farce, littered with lies, half-truths and incompetence. Whilst any agreement is full of pros and cons, we seem to be stumbling into a con at every turn. Not littered with lies but the deal was not a good one and hopefully will change ver the years. The problem I believe was trying to keep the promise of the deadline when we leave this need to be more flexible to get the right deal whatever that is. No lies where made just statements of intent that have not yet been delivered and might not be for years due to covid" So the deadline was the issue? Why vote Tory then, you knew it was whatever was negotiated by the 31st of Dec 2020, deal or no deal. If you voted Tory, you are responsible for enabling it. | |||
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"Brexit as a concept was understandable. However the delivery has been an absolute farce, littered with lies, half-truths and incompetence. Whilst any agreement is full of pros and cons, we seem to be stumbling into a con at every turn. Inevitable though. There was never going to be a deal as good as being in the EU. Of course there wasn't. Not with the EU. That was obvious to the majority. I don't think the majority had a problem trading with the EU. It's just all the other crap that went with it!" Good to find agreement that were worse off out of the EU. As for the "other crap", every single person has problems with the EU. Those problems still exist, we still contribute to them and the EU decisions impact the UK. So we are worse off, and don't have a say in these decisions. All for some meaningless rhetoric. | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. " Bollocks What utter crap - same old same old Yawn | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. " Maybe because they aren't a member of the "I'm alright Jack" squad and don't have to personally be affected to highlite that many many people are being negatively affected by Brexit. I've always voted on the lines of what or who I think will benefit the country as a whole, not just me personally. | |||
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"Bollocks! "We know what we voted for" Why would the Brexiteers want to revisit this? Surely the "World Beating" deal along with sovereignty and the chance to rebuild the Empire has been achieved. Without trying to put words into the mouths of those who voted to leave the EU, I would assume that the less the UK had to do with the EU, the happier they would be. So what if businesses in the EU have found other companies to replace items that the UK previously supplied, what does it matter that exports to the EU are in trouble? The opportunities with the trade deals to Japan, Australia etc. are there to more than make up for short term losses - or so the Brexit mantra would have us all believe. New jobs have been created to more than make up for businesses that have moved their base to the EU and unemployment is still relatively low in comparison to other similar countries in the EU so surely the UK is in a strong position? Where does the BBC dredge up this rubbish? BBC News - Pressure mounts to reopen Brexit deal https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-56931396 ...or do they have a point? Your assumption that people who voted for brexit wanted less to do with Europe is wrong. They just don't want to be in the EU club which is not the same thing at all. We still trade with Europe just not as a member state. People on here often say we have lost all trade with Europe in favour of other regions where in reality we still trade with Europe just in a different way. Looking at the graphs on the BBC the imports and exports have dropped under covid understandably. The gap between the two is much the same, if anything the gap has narrowed though not easy to say until restrictions are lifted here and in Europe The UK saw much, much more damage both to its imports and to its exports than any of the EU's other main trading partners did. The UK has one of the worst trading deficits with the EU over the last year. This is in comparison with all the main trading partners with only the US being worse. The UK is down about €23billion. After this is Switzerland at €6.6bn, Turkey at €0.8bn, and the rest apart from China and Russia coming out about even. Both Russia and China saw increased trade with tue EU. These figures take Covid out of the equation and show the Brexit impact. Full report and table can be downloaded from the links below. https://t.co/paONG6zo4o https://t.co/CyNUnMUO0H " As said we still trade with Europe but just on different terms.What was the trade deficit when we were full EU members? If the reductions is all about brexit as you say what will the improvements be down too? Cant be covid recovery as you say thats already factored in. | |||
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" If the reductions is all about brexit as you say what will the improvements be down too? Cant be covid recovery as you say thats already factored in. " The figures I quoted are trade with the EU and show the comparison with the major trading trading partners of the EU. For the UK figures to improve they would have to export more with the EU and import less. The UK must (and is) look elsewhere to make up this deficit. To make it up with the EU would be more costly than when the UK was part of the EU so it would defeat the purpose of leaving. Only time will tell but the trading deficit is not due to Covid which was my point. | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. Bollocks What utter crap - same old same old Yawn " One of the many, many things remainers fail to realise, is that less than 10% of British businesses export anything at all. That will now improve. We are also now going to have cheaper tariff free Australian wine to enjoy. I shall be enjoying a Torbreck Runrig Shiraz myself later, £18 cheaper than it was last year. | |||
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"I love the fact that people thought they would get all the benefits of being in the club without being a member of the club…. Awww and then complained when they didn’t in essence get their cake and eat it…. Bless! " almost all the complaints on here about brexit are from remainers and you can count yourself in that lol | |||
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"I love the fact that people thought they would get all the benefits of being in the club without being a member of the club…. Awww and then complained when they didn’t in essence get their cake and eat it…. Bless! almost all the complaints on here about brexit are from remainers and you can count yourself in that lol" 100% of complaints about the EU on here are from Brexiteers. I thought the UK left the EU and had a great deal! What is the fixation with the EU if the deal is so good? We hold all the cards.. Sure you do. | |||
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"I love the fact that people thought they would get all the benefits of being in the club without being a member of the club…. Awww and then complained when they didn’t in essence get their cake and eat it…. Bless! almost all the complaints on here about brexit are from remainers and you can count yourself in that lol 100% of complaints about the EU on here are from Brexiteers. I thought the UK left the EU and had a great deal! What is the fixation with the EU if the deal is so good? We hold all the cards.. Sure you do. " | |||
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"I love the fact that people thought they would get all the benefits of being in the club without being a member of the club…. Awww and then complained when they didn’t in essence get their cake and eat it…. Bless! almost all the complaints on here about brexit are from remainers and you can count yourself in that lol 100% of complaints about the EU on here are from Brexiteers. I thought the UK left the EU and had a great deal! What is the fixation with the EU if the deal is so good? We hold all the cards.. Sure you do. " im a leaver and I never mentioned the eu I said brexit I think it’s you who’s fixated on the eu lol | |||
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"In or out it won't make much difference if any in the long term however our masters are no longer based in Brussels, which I believe is what we all wanted" They never were. The fact that you are still saying this speaks volumes. | |||
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"I love the fact that people thought they would get all the benefits of being in the club without being a member of the club…. Awww and then complained when they didn’t in essence get their cake and eat it…. Bless! almost all the complaints on here about brexit are from remainers and you can count yourself in that lol 100% of complaints about the EU on here are from Brexiteers. I thought the UK left the EU and had a great deal! What is the fixation with the EU if the deal is so good? We hold all the cards.. Sure you do. im a leaver and I never mentioned the eu I said brexit I think it’s you who’s fixated on the eu lol" Read the post properly before replying - I said 100% of complaints on here about the EU. Tell me where I was referring directly to your post? | |||
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"I love the fact that people thought they would get all the benefits of being in the club without being a member of the club…. Awww and then complained when they didn’t in essence get their cake and eat it…. Bless! almost all the complaints on here about brexit are from remainers and you can count yourself in that lol 100% of complaints about the EU on here are from Brexiteers. I thought the UK left the EU and had a great deal! What is the fixation with the EU if the deal is so good? We hold all the cards.. Sure you do. im a leaver and I never mentioned the eu I said brexit I think it’s you who’s fixated on the eu lol Read the post properly before replying - I said 100% of complaints on here about the EU. Tell me where I was referring directly to your post? " the thread is about brexit I don’t think iv ever posted anything about the eu before | |||
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"I love the fact that people thought they would get all the benefits of being in the club without being a member of the club…. Awww and then complained when they didn’t in essence get their cake and eat it…. Bless! almost all the complaints on here about brexit are from remainers and you can count yourself in that lol 100% of complaints about the EU on here are from Brexiteers. I thought the UK left the EU and had a great deal! What is the fixation with the EU if the deal is so good? We hold all the cards.. Sure you do. im a leaver and I never mentioned the eu I said brexit I think it’s you who’s fixated on the eu lol Read the post properly before replying - I said 100% of complaints on here about the EU. Tell me where I was referring directly to your post? the thread is about brexit I don’t think iv ever posted anything about the eu before " Perhaps you did not realise and in that case I now understand why you voted to leave but, Brexit was about leaving the EU. The two things are quite intricately linked as, to help you understand, without the EU, you could not have had Brexit. There Does that make it easier for you to understand? | |||
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"I love the fact that people thought they would get all the benefits of being in the club without being a member of the club…. Awww and then complained when they didn’t in essence get their cake and eat it…. Bless! almost all the complaints on here about brexit are from remainers and you can count yourself in that lol 100% of complaints about the EU on here are from Brexiteers. I thought the UK left the EU and had a great deal! What is the fixation with the EU if the deal is so good? We hold all the cards.. Sure you do. im a leaver and I never mentioned the eu I said brexit I think it’s you who’s fixated on the eu lol Read the post properly before replying - I said 100% of complaints on here about the EU. Tell me where I was referring directly to your post? the thread is about brexit I don’t think iv ever posted anything about the eu before Perhaps you did not realise and in that case I now understand why you voted to leave but, Brexit was about leaving the EU. The two things are quite intricately linked as, to help you understand, without the EU, you could not have had Brexit. There Does that make it easier for you to understand? " aw thank you so much I’m not confused now and if it helps read the posts from remainers complaining about brexit I think you will find there’s a lot and thank you again for the education I feel as clever as you now lol | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. " I have repeatedly so please stop saying that Chris. | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. Bollocks What utter crap - same old same old Yawn One of the many, many things remainers fail to realise, is that less than 10% of British businesses export anything at all. That will now improve. We are also now going to have cheaper tariff free Australian wine to enjoy. I shall be enjoying a Torbreck Runrig Shiraz myself later, £18 cheaper than it was last year. " I find all Australian wine horrid to my palate, I would rather drink the cheapest French wine I can find | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. Bollocks What utter crap - same old same old Yawn One of the many, many things remainers fail to realise, is that less than 10% of British businesses export anything at all. That will now improve. We are also now going to have cheaper tariff free Australian wine to enjoy. I shall be enjoying a Torbreck Runrig Shiraz myself later, £18 cheaper than it was last year. " Those 10% employ a lot of people. So fuck them I'm alright Jack! The U.K. had the biggest micro online business exporting in Europe by a country mile. That is now disappearing fast. So instead of growing they are shrinking. So at both ends of the spectrum business is losing. | |||
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"I love the fact that people thought they would get all the benefits of being in the club without being a member of the club…. Awww and then complained when they didn’t in essence get their cake and eat it…. Bless! " I never once thought we'd get any benefits. Why would we? We wanted to leave. I stopped paying my golf club membership a few years back because I didn't have time to use the benefits it offered, at no point did I think I would still be entitled to those benefits without paying again. | |||
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"In or out it won't make much difference if any in the long term however our masters are no longer based in Brussels, which I believe is what we all wanted" This is an excellent example of how powerful the anti-EU propaganda has been for the last couple of decades. The government has successfully pushed the blame for everything that's wrong is in the country into the EU. On a side note we've left and they're still blaming the EU, or remainers, and people are still buying it. It's unbelievable really. | |||
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" If the reductions is all about brexit as you say what will the improvements be down too? Cant be covid recovery as you say thats already factored in. The figures I quoted are trade with the EU and show the comparison with the major trading trading partners of the EU. For the UK figures to improve they would have to export more with the EU and import less. The UK must (and is) look elsewhere to make up this deficit. To make it up with the EU would be more costly than when the UK was part of the EU so it would defeat the purpose of leaving. Only time will tell but the trading deficit is not due to Covid which was my point. " I understand the figures you quote and that you say they are purely down to brexit. As said that means if the figures improve it cannot be due to covid recovery based on what you have said. The gap between imports and exports is closer than it used to be. As others here have said the imports are not being held up like the exports so the true gap would be even closer. | |||
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"I love the fact that people thought they would get all the benefits of being in the club without being a member of the club…. Awww and then complained when they didn’t in essence get their cake and eat it…. Bless! " I have not read of anyone on here that claimed that. | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. I have repeatedly so please stop saying that Chris. " I do include you in that, I’ve read many times your minor paperwork complaints. Far as I can see A) you’re being kept busy, which is good. Busy is good from a job point of view B) you have a job, probably doing overtime, so you’re better off. I say again, and it’s a a repetitive point I know... no one has shown how they, personally, are worse off. And you’re better off. Riddle me that. | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. I have repeatedly so please stop saying that Chris. I do include you in that, I’ve read many times your minor paperwork complaints. Far as I can see A) you’re being kept busy, which is good. Busy is good from a job point of view B) you have a job, probably doing overtime, so you’re better off. I say again, and it’s a a repetitive point I know... no one has shown how they, personally, are worse off. And you’re better off. Riddle me that." Wow... King of Spin.  | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. I have repeatedly so please stop saying that Chris. I do include you in that, I’ve read many times your minor paperwork complaints. Far as I can see A) you’re being kept busy, which is good. Busy is good from a job point of view B) you have a job, probably doing overtime, so you’re better off. I say again, and it’s a a repetitive point I know... no one has shown how they, personally, are worse off. And you’re better off. Riddle me that. Wow... King of Spin. "Which part is not true? | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. I have repeatedly so please stop saying that Chris. I do include you in that, I’ve read many times your minor paperwork complaints. Far as I can see A) you’re being kept busy, which is good. Busy is good from a job point of view B) you have a job, probably doing overtime, so you’re better off. I say again, and it’s a a repetitive point I know... no one has shown how they, personally, are worse off. And you’re better off. Riddle me that. Wow... King of Spin.
Which part is not true?"You’ve made assumptions. You don’t know if the overtime is a result of extra business or extra complications. You’ve also dismissed their concerns to paint a picture which may not be accurate. Is that not spin? | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. I have repeatedly so please stop saying that Chris. I do include you in that, I’ve read many times your minor paperwork complaints. Far as I can see A) you’re being kept busy, which is good. Busy is good from a job point of view B) you have a job, probably doing overtime, so you’re better off. I say again, and it’s a a repetitive point I know... no one has shown how they, personally, are worse off. And you’re better off. Riddle me that. Wow... King of Spin.
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You’ve made assumptions. You don’t know if the overtime is a result of extra business or extra complications. You’ve also dismissed their concerns to paint a picture which may not be accurate. Is that not spin? "Not at all. I have consistently asked the straightforward question for anyone to show how they, personally, have been negatively affected by Brexit. This is a very simple and precise question posed in my usual forensic fashion. Answer there has been none. | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. I have repeatedly so please stop saying that Chris. I do include you in that, I’ve read many times your minor paperwork complaints. Far as I can see A) you’re being kept busy, which is good. Busy is good from a job point of view B) you have a job, probably doing overtime, so you’re better off. I say again, and it’s a a repetitive point I know... no one has shown how they, personally, are worse off. And you’re better off. Riddle me that. Wow... King of Spin.
Which part is not true?
You’ve made assumptions. You don’t know if the overtime is a result of extra business or extra complications. You’ve also dismissed their concerns to paint a picture which may not be accurate. Is that not spin?
Not at all. I have consistently asked the straightforward question for anyone to show how they, personally, have been negatively affected by Brexit.
This is a very simple and precise question posed in my usual forensic fashion.
Answer there has been none. "Maybe ask some fishermen Or someone in northern Ireland Or someone in Cornwall. | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. I have repeatedly so please stop saying that Chris. I do include you in that, I’ve read many times your minor paperwork complaints. Far as I can see A) you’re being kept busy, which is good. Busy is good from a job point of view B) you have a job, probably doing overtime, so you’re better off. I say again, and it’s a a repetitive point I know... no one has shown how they, personally, are worse off. And you’re better off. Riddle me that. Wow... King of Spin.
Which part is not true?
You’ve made assumptions. You don’t know if the overtime is a result of extra business or extra complications. You’ve also dismissed their concerns to paint a picture which may not be accurate. Is that not spin?
Not at all. I have consistently asked the straightforward question for anyone to show how they, personally, have been negatively affected by Brexit.
This is a very simple and precise question posed in my usual forensic fashion.
Answer there has been none. "I could tell you how it's affected me and lots of people I know, but instead I'll tell one way how it's affected you and nearly everyone else in the UK. The UK imports most of it's food. Since the 2016 referendum, sterling has fallen considerably in value. This means the cost of food has gone up for the UK shopper. I would call paying more for the same a negative impact, and a widespread impact at that. | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. I have repeatedly so please stop saying that Chris. I do include you in that, I’ve read many times your minor paperwork complaints. Far as I can see A) you’re being kept busy, which is good. Busy is good from a job point of view B) you have a job, probably doing overtime, so you’re better off. I say again, and it’s a a repetitive point I know... no one has shown how they, personally, are worse off. And you’re better off. Riddle me that. Wow... King of Spin.
Which part is not true?
You’ve made assumptions. You don’t know if the overtime is a result of extra business or extra complications. You’ve also dismissed their concerns to paint a picture which may not be accurate. Is that not spin?
Not at all. I have consistently asked the straightforward question for anyone to show how they, personally, have been negatively affected by Brexit.
This is a very simple and precise question posed in my usual forensic fashion.
Answer there has been none.
I could tell you how it's affected me and lots of people I know, but instead I'll tell one way how it's affected you and nearly everyone else in the UK. The UK imports most of it's food. Since the 2016 referendum, sterling has fallen considerably in value. This means the cost of food has gone up for the UK shopper. I would call paying more for the same a negative impact, and a widespread impact at that. "Sorry but that's rubbish We do not import "most of our food" We are actually able to be self sufficient, except that consumers want mangoes in February etc Wheat production for example has increased from 6 tonnes a hectare after the war to 14 now. There have been no food inflation figures published at all that show any basket increases. Plus we get tariff free products from the rest of the world - South African oranges - cheaper than we got before. | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. I have repeatedly so please stop saying that Chris. I do include you in that, I’ve read many times your minor paperwork complaints. Far as I can see A) you’re being kept busy, which is good. Busy is good from a job point of view B) you have a job, probably doing overtime, so you’re better off. I say again, and it’s a a repetitive point I know... no one has shown how they, personally, are worse off. And you’re better off. Riddle me that. Wow... King of Spin.
Which part is not true?
You’ve made assumptions. You don’t know if the overtime is a result of extra business or extra complications. You’ve also dismissed their concerns to paint a picture which may not be accurate. Is that not spin?
Not at all. I have consistently asked the straightforward question for anyone to show how they, personally, have been negatively affected by Brexit.
This is a very simple and precise question posed in my usual forensic fashion.
Answer there has been none.
I could tell you how it's affected me and lots of people I know, but instead I'll tell one way how it's affected you and nearly everyone else in the UK. The UK imports most of it's food. Since the 2016 referendum, sterling has fallen considerably in value. This means the cost of food has gone up for the UK shopper. I would call paying more for the same a negative impact, and a widespread impact at that.
Sorry but that's rubbish
We do not import "most of our food"
We are actually able to be self sufficient, except that consumers want mangoes in February etc
Wheat production for example has increased from 6 tonnes a hectare after the war to 14 now.
There have been no food inflation figures published at all that show any basket increases.
Plus we get tariff free products from the rest of the world - South African oranges - cheaper than we got before. "Why can’t I have Mangos in February? | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. I have repeatedly so please stop saying that Chris. I do include you in that, I’ve read many times your minor paperwork complaints. Far as I can see A) you’re being kept busy, which is good. Busy is good from a job point of view B) you have a job, probably doing overtime, so you’re better off. I say again, and it’s a a repetitive point I know... no one has shown how they, personally, are worse off. And you’re better off. Riddle me that. Wow... King of Spin.
Which part is not true?
You’ve made assumptions. You don’t know if the overtime is a result of extra business or extra complications. You’ve also dismissed their concerns to paint a picture which may not be accurate. Is that not spin?
Not at all. I have consistently asked the straightforward question for anyone to show how they, personally, have been negatively affected by Brexit.
This is a very simple and precise question posed in my usual forensic fashion.
Answer there has been none.
I could tell you how it's affected me and lots of people I know, but instead I'll tell one way how it's affected you and nearly everyone else in the UK. The UK imports most of it's food. Since the 2016 referendum, sterling has fallen considerably in value. This means the cost of food has gone up for the UK shopper. I would call paying more for the same a negative impact, and a widespread impact at that.
Sorry but that's rubbish
We do not import "most of our food"
We are actually able to be self sufficient, except that consumers want mangoes in February etc
Wheat production for example has increased from 6 tonnes a hectare after the war to 14 now.
There have been no food inflation figures published at all that show any basket increases.
Plus we get tariff free products from the rest of the world - South African oranges - cheaper than we got before.
Why can’t I have Mangos in February? "You wouldn't if you care for the environment | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. I have repeatedly so please stop saying that Chris. I do include you in that, I’ve read many times your minor paperwork complaints. Far as I can see A) you’re being kept busy, which is good. Busy is good from a job point of view B) you have a job, probably doing overtime, so you’re better off. I say again, and it’s a a repetitive point I know... no one has shown how they, personally, are worse off. And you’re better off. Riddle me that. Wow... King of Spin.
Which part is not true?
You’ve made assumptions. You don’t know if the overtime is a result of extra business or extra complications. You’ve also dismissed their concerns to paint a picture which may not be accurate. Is that not spin?
Not at all. I have consistently asked the straightforward question for anyone to show how they, personally, have been negatively affected by Brexit.
This is a very simple and precise question posed in my usual forensic fashion.
Answer there has been none.
I could tell you how it's affected me and lots of people I know, but instead I'll tell one way how it's affected you and nearly everyone else in the UK. The UK imports most of it's food. Since the 2016 referendum, sterling has fallen considerably in value. This means the cost of food has gone up for the UK shopper. I would call paying more for the same a negative impact, and a widespread impact at that.
Sorry but that's rubbish
We do not import "most of our food"
We are actually able to be self sufficient, except that consumers want mangoes in February etc
Wheat production for example has increased from 6 tonnes a hectare after the war to 14 now.
There have been no food inflation figures published at all that show any basket increases.
Plus we get tariff free products from the rest of the world - South African oranges - cheaper than we got before.
Why can’t I have Mangos in February?
You wouldn't if you care for the environment "So importing oranges from South Africa rather than Spain is good for the environment? , so what fruit do the UK produce in winter? | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. I have repeatedly so please stop saying that Chris. I do include you in that, I’ve read many times your minor paperwork complaints. Far as I can see A) you’re being kept busy, which is good. Busy is good from a job point of view B) you have a job, probably doing overtime, so you’re better off. I say again, and it’s a a repetitive point I know... no one has shown how they, personally, are worse off. And you’re better off. Riddle me that. Wow... King of Spin.
Which part is not true?
You’ve made assumptions. You don’t know if the overtime is a result of extra business or extra complications. You’ve also dismissed their concerns to paint a picture which may not be accurate. Is that not spin?
Not at all. I have consistently asked the straightforward question for anyone to show how they, personally, have been negatively affected by Brexit.
This is a very simple and precise question posed in my usual forensic fashion.
Answer there has been none.
I could tell you how it's affected me and lots of people I know, but instead I'll tell one way how it's affected you and nearly everyone else in the UK. The UK imports most of it's food. Since the 2016 referendum, sterling has fallen considerably in value. This means the cost of food has gone up for the UK shopper. I would call paying more for the same a negative impact, and a widespread impact at that.
Sorry but that's rubbish
We do not import "most of our food"
We are actually able to be self sufficient, except that consumers want mangoes in February etc
Wheat production for example has increased from 6 tonnes a hectare after the war to 14 now.
There have been no food inflation figures published at all that show any basket increases.
Plus we get tariff free products from the rest of the world - South African oranges - cheaper than we got before.
Why can’t I have Mangos in February?
You wouldn't if you care for the environment
So importing oranges from South Africa rather than Spain is good for the environment? , so what fruit do the UK produce in winter? "Carrots are now grown year round in the UK | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. I have repeatedly so please stop saying that Chris. I do include you in that, I’ve read many times your minor paperwork complaints. Far as I can see A) you’re being kept busy, which is good. Busy is good from a job point of view B) you have a job, probably doing overtime, so you’re better off. I say again, and it’s a a repetitive point I know... no one has shown how they, personally, are worse off. And you’re better off. Riddle me that. Wow... King of Spin.
Which part is not true?
You’ve made assumptions. You don’t know if the overtime is a result of extra business or extra complications. You’ve also dismissed their concerns to paint a picture which may not be accurate. Is that not spin?
Not at all. I have consistently asked the straightforward question for anyone to show how they, personally, have been negatively affected by Brexit.
This is a very simple and precise question posed in my usual forensic fashion.
Answer there has been none.
I could tell you how it's affected me and lots of people I know, but instead I'll tell one way how it's affected you and nearly everyone else in the UK. The UK imports most of it's food. Since the 2016 referendum, sterling has fallen considerably in value. This means the cost of food has gone up for the UK shopper. I would call paying more for the same a negative impact, and a widespread impact at that.
Sorry but that's rubbish
We do not import "most of our food"
We are actually able to be self sufficient, except that consumers want mangoes in February etc
Wheat production for example has increased from 6 tonnes a hectare after the war to 14 now.
There have been no food inflation figures published at all that show any basket increases.
Plus we get tariff free products from the rest of the world - South African oranges - cheaper than we got before.
Why can’t I have Mangos in February?
You wouldn't if you care for the environment
So importing oranges from South Africa rather than Spain is good for the environment? , so what fruit do the UK produce in winter?
Carrots are now grown year round in the UK"Carrots are not a fruit, nice try though | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. I have repeatedly so please stop saying that Chris. I do include you in that, I’ve read many times your minor paperwork complaints. Far as I can see A) you’re being kept busy, which is good. Busy is good from a job point of view B) you have a job, probably doing overtime, so you’re better off. I say again, and it’s a a repetitive point I know... no one has shown how they, personally, are worse off. And you’re better off. Riddle me that. Wow... King of Spin.
Which part is not true?
You’ve made assumptions. You don’t know if the overtime is a result of extra business or extra complications. You’ve also dismissed their concerns to paint a picture which may not be accurate. Is that not spin?
Not at all. I have consistently asked the straightforward question for anyone to show how they, personally, have been negatively affected by Brexit.
This is a very simple and precise question posed in my usual forensic fashion.
Answer there has been none.
I could tell you how it's affected me and lots of people I know, but instead I'll tell one way how it's affected you and nearly everyone else in the UK. The UK imports most of it's food. Since the 2016 referendum, sterling has fallen considerably in value. This means the cost of food has gone up for the UK shopper. I would call paying more for the same a negative impact, and a widespread impact at that.
Sorry but that's rubbish
We do not import "most of our food"
We are actually able to be self sufficient, except that consumers want mangoes in February etc
Wheat production for example has increased from 6 tonnes a hectare after the war to 14 now.
There have been no food inflation figures published at all that show any basket increases.
Plus we get tariff free products from the rest of the world - South African oranges - cheaper than we got before.
Why can’t I have Mangos in February?
You wouldn't if you care for the environment
So importing oranges from South Africa rather than Spain is good for the environment? , so what fruit do the UK produce in winter?
Carrots are now grown year round in the UK
Carrots are not a fruit, nice try though "Didn't say they were, although you can make jam from them. | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. I have repeatedly so please stop saying that Chris. I do include you in that, I’ve read many times your minor paperwork complaints. Far as I can see A) you’re being kept busy, which is good. Busy is good from a job point of view B) you have a job, probably doing overtime, so you’re better off. I say again, and it’s a a repetitive point I know... no one has shown how they, personally, are worse off. And you’re better off. Riddle me that. Wow... King of Spin.
Which part is not true?
You’ve made assumptions. You don’t know if the overtime is a result of extra business or extra complications. You’ve also dismissed their concerns to paint a picture which may not be accurate. Is that not spin?
Not at all. I have consistently asked the straightforward question for anyone to show how they, personally, have been negatively affected by Brexit.
This is a very simple and precise question posed in my usual forensic fashion.
Answer there has been none.
I could tell you how it's affected me and lots of people I know, but instead I'll tell one way how it's affected you and nearly everyone else in the UK. The UK imports most of it's food. Since the 2016 referendum, sterling has fallen considerably in value. This means the cost of food has gone up for the UK shopper. I would call paying more for the same a negative impact, and a widespread impact at that.
Sorry but that's rubbish
We do not import "most of our food"
We are actually able to be self sufficient, except that consumers want mangoes in February etc
Wheat production for example has increased from 6 tonnes a hectare after the war to 14 now.
There have been no food inflation figures published at all that show any basket increases.
Plus we get tariff free products from the rest of the world - South African oranges - cheaper than we got before.
Why can’t I have Mangos in February?
You wouldn't if you care for the environment
So importing oranges from South Africa rather than Spain is good for the environment? , so what fruit do the UK produce in winter?
Carrots are now grown year round in the UK
Carrots are not a fruit, nice try though
Didn't say they were, although you can make jam from them. "I asked for fruits, you gave me carrots, good effort | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. I have repeatedly so please stop saying that Chris. I do include you in that, I’ve read many times your minor paperwork complaints. Far as I can see A) you’re being kept busy, which is good. Busy is good from a job point of view B) you have a job, probably doing overtime, so you’re better off. I say again, and it’s a a repetitive point I know... no one has shown how they, personally, are worse off. And you’re better off. Riddle me that. Wow... King of Spin.
Which part is not true?
You’ve made assumptions. You don’t know if the overtime is a result of extra business or extra complications. You’ve also dismissed their concerns to paint a picture which may not be accurate. Is that not spin?
Not at all. I have consistently asked the straightforward question for anyone to show how they, personally, have been negatively affected by Brexit.
This is a very simple and precise question posed in my usual forensic fashion.
Answer there has been none.
I could tell you how it's affected me and lots of people I know, but instead I'll tell one way how it's affected you and nearly everyone else in the UK. The UK imports most of it's food. Since the 2016 referendum, sterling has fallen considerably in value. This means the cost of food has gone up for the UK shopper. I would call paying more for the same a negative impact, and a widespread impact at that.
Sorry but that's rubbish
We do not import "most of our food"
We are actually able to be self sufficient, except that consumers want mangoes in February etc
Wheat production for example has increased from 6 tonnes a hectare after the war to 14 now.
There have been no food inflation figures published at all that show any basket increases.
Plus we get tariff free products from the rest of the world - South African oranges - cheaper than we got before.
Why can’t I have Mangos in February?
You wouldn't if you care for the environment
So importing oranges from South Africa rather than Spain is good for the environment? , so what fruit do the UK produce in winter? "Oranges do not grow year round in Spain just two crops a year so we and the eu have always imported oranges from S Africa. I love the way since we have left its all about environment as an argument, i didnt see the same people moaning that we were importing millions of bottles of WATER from the eu when you could get it from your tap. | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. I have repeatedly so please stop saying that Chris. I do include you in that, I’ve read many times your minor paperwork complaints. Far as I can see A) you’re being kept busy, which is good. Busy is good from a job point of view B) you have a job, probably doing overtime, so you’re better off. I say again, and it’s a a repetitive point I know... no one has shown how they, personally, are worse off. And you’re better off. Riddle me that. Wow... King of Spin.
Which part is not true?
You’ve made assumptions. You don’t know if the overtime is a result of extra business or extra complications. You’ve also dismissed their concerns to paint a picture which may not be accurate. Is that not spin?
Not at all. I have consistently asked the straightforward question for anyone to show how they, personally, have been negatively affected by Brexit.
This is a very simple and precise question posed in my usual forensic fashion.
Answer there has been none.
I could tell you how it's affected me and lots of people I know, but instead I'll tell one way how it's affected you and nearly everyone else in the UK. The UK imports most of it's food. Since the 2016 referendum, sterling has fallen considerably in value. This means the cost of food has gone up for the UK shopper. I would call paying more for the same a negative impact, and a widespread impact at that.
Sorry but that's rubbish
We do not import "most of our food"
We are actually able to be self sufficient, except that consumers want mangoes in February etc
Wheat production for example has increased from 6 tonnes a hectare after the war to 14 now.
There have been no food inflation figures published at all that show any basket increases.
Plus we get tariff free products from the rest of the world - South African oranges - cheaper than we got before.
Why can’t I have Mangos in February?
You wouldn't if you care for the environment
So importing oranges from South Africa rather than Spain is good for the environment? , so what fruit do the UK produce in winter?
Carrots are now grown year round in the UK
Carrots are not a fruit, nice try though
Didn't say they were, although you can make jam from them.
I asked for fruits, you gave me carrots, good effort "Pears, squash, blackberries, cherries, all sorts. | |||
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" I asked for fruits, you gave me carrots, good effort "If this helps: I have grown strawberries on my kitchen window ledge for years. The used to be EU strawberries as I tried to grow them all to the same size shape and weight. Since liberation day - I can now enjoy a full crop as I don't need to throw half of them away any more.   | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. I have repeatedly so please stop saying that Chris. I do include you in that, I’ve read many times your minor paperwork complaints. Far as I can see A) you’re being kept busy, which is good. Busy is good from a job point of view B) you have a job, probably doing overtime, so you’re better off. I say again, and it’s a a repetitive point I know... no one has shown how they, personally, are worse off. And you’re better off. Riddle me that. Wow... King of Spin.
Which part is not true?
You’ve made assumptions. You don’t know if the overtime is a result of extra business or extra complications. You’ve also dismissed their concerns to paint a picture which may not be accurate. Is that not spin?
Not at all. I have consistently asked the straightforward question for anyone to show how they, personally, have been negatively affected by Brexit.
This is a very simple and precise question posed in my usual forensic fashion.
Answer there has been none.
I could tell you how it's affected me and lots of people I know, but instead I'll tell one way how it's affected you and nearly everyone else in the UK. The UK imports most of it's food. Since the 2016 referendum, sterling has fallen considerably in value. This means the cost of food has gone up for the UK shopper. I would call paying more for the same a negative impact, and a widespread impact at that.
Sorry but that's rubbish
We do not import "most of our food"
We are actually able to be self sufficient, except that consumers want mangoes in February etc
Wheat production for example has increased from 6 tonnes a hectare after the war to 14 now.
There have been no food inflation figures published at all that show any basket increases.
Plus we get tariff free products from the rest of the world - South African oranges - cheaper than we got before.
Why can’t I have Mangos in February?
You wouldn't if you care for the environment
So importing oranges from South Africa rather than Spain is good for the environment? , so what fruit do the UK produce in winter?
Carrots are now grown year round in the UK
Carrots are not a fruit, nice try though
Didn't say they were, although you can make jam from them.
I asked for fruits, you gave me carrots, good effort
Pears, squash, blackberries, cherries, all sorts. "Wow, they are all grown in winter? Naturally,? Where do I buy these British grown in winter fruits from? | |||
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" I asked for fruits, you gave me carrots, good effort
If this helps: I have grown strawberries on my kitchen window ledge for years. The used to be EU strawberries as I tried to grow them all to the same size shape and weight.
Since liberation day - I can now enjoy a full crop as I don't need to throw half of them away any more.
"Why were they on your kitchen window and not in the garden? We’re these strawberries for selling? Presuming this is a true story why would you ‘throw half of them away ‘ | |||
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" Wow, they are all grown in winter? Naturally,? Where do I buy these British grown in winter fruits from? " 1 Mansfield Farms Group. Kent. Turnover: £60m — estimate based on hectarage and fruit production. ... 2 AC Goatham & Son. Kent. Turnover: £50m — estimate based on hectarage and fruit production. ... 4 Winterwood Farms. Kent. Turnover £47.8m. ... 4 Haygrove. Herefordshire. Turnover £44.7m. ... 5 Wilkin & Sons. Turnover £41.3m. Try here as most are 'undercover' growers. | |||
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" I asked for fruits, you gave me carrots, good effort
If this helps: I have grown strawberries on my kitchen window ledge for years. The used to be EU strawberries as I tried to grow them all to the same size shape and weight.
Since liberation day - I can now enjoy a full crop as I don't need to throw half of them away any more.
Why were they on your kitchen window and not in the garden? We’re these strawberries for selling? Presuming this is a true story why would you ‘throw half of them away ‘ "Oh dear - do read my paragraphs properly please. The EU doesn't allow for odd shape or sizes, everyone knows that, so when I grew mine I kept those rules and threw those ones away. Since Liberation Day I can keep them all. Miss-shapes Petite ones. Large ones !!! Doubled my crop. | |||
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" Wow, they are all grown in winter? Naturally,? Where do I buy these British grown in winter fruits from? 1 Mansfield Farms Group. Kent. Turnover: £60m — estimate based on hectarage and fruit production. ... 2 AC Goatham & Son. Kent. Turnover: £50m — estimate based on hectarage and fruit production. ... 4 Winterwood Farms. Kent. Turnover £47.8m. ... 4 Haygrove. Herefordshire. Turnover £44.7m. ... 5 Wilkin & Sons. Turnover £41.3m. Try here as most are 'undercover' growers." They grow them in the winter? Wow, that is impressive, | |||
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" I asked for fruits, you gave me carrots, good effort
If this helps: I have grown strawberries on my kitchen window ledge for years. The used to be EU strawberries as I tried to grow them all to the same size shape and weight.
Since liberation day - I can now enjoy a full crop as I don't need to throw half of them away any more.
Why were they on your kitchen window and not in the garden? We’re these strawberries for selling? Presuming this is a true story why would you ‘throw half of them away ‘
Oh dear - do read my paragraphs properly please. The EU doesn't allow for odd shape or sizes, everyone knows that, so when I grew mine I kept those rules and threw those ones away. Since Liberation Day I can keep them all. Miss-shapes Petite ones. Large ones !!! Doubled my crop."Why did you throw them away? We’re they for personal consumption? | |||
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" I asked for fruits, you gave me carrots, good effort
If this helps: I have grown strawberries on my kitchen window ledge for years. The used to be EU strawberries as I tried to grow them all to the same size shape and weight.
Since liberation day - I can now enjoy a full crop as I don't need to throw half of them away any more.
Why were they on your kitchen window and not in the garden? We’re these strawberries for selling? Presuming this is a true story why would you ‘throw half of them away ‘
Oh dear - do read my paragraphs properly please. The EU doesn't allow for odd shape or sizes, everyone knows that, so when I grew mine I kept those rules and threw those ones away. Since Liberation Day I can keep them all. Miss-shapes Petite ones. Large ones !!! Doubled my crop.
Why did you throw them away? We’re they for personal consumption? "Well I was a member of the EU at the time. And as the EU like to sue people for rule breaking I wasn't going to take that risk. | |||
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" I asked for fruits, you gave me carrots, good effort
If this helps: I have grown strawberries on my kitchen window ledge for years. The used to be EU strawberries as I tried to grow them all to the same size shape and weight.
Since liberation day - I can now enjoy a full crop as I don't need to throw half of them away any more.
"It was worse for me trying to grow bananas at home, could never get the curvature to match EU regulation 2257/94, from wiki: “Commission Regulation (EC) No. 2257/94 of 16 September 1994 laying down quality standards for bananas, sometimes referred to in the media as the bendy banana law, is a European Union regulation specifying classification standards for bananas, which took effect on 1 January 1995.[1] It was replaced by Commission Implementing Regulation (EU) No 1333/2011 of 19 December 2011 laying down marketing standards for bananas, rules on the verification of compliance with those marketing standards and requirements for notifications in the banana sector with effect as of 9 January 2012.[2]“ | |||
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" I asked for fruits, you gave me carrots, good effort
If this helps: I have grown strawberries on my kitchen window ledge for years. The used to be EU strawberries as I tried to grow them all to the same size shape and weight.
Since liberation day - I can now enjoy a full crop as I don't need to throw half of them away any more.
Why were they on your kitchen window and not in the garden? We’re these strawberries for selling? Presuming this is a true story why would you ‘throw half of them away ‘
Oh dear - do read my paragraphs properly please. The EU doesn't allow for odd shape or sizes, everyone knows that, so when I grew mine I kept those rules and threw those ones away. Since Liberation Day I can keep them all. Miss-shapes Petite ones. Large ones !!! Doubled my crop.
Why did you throw them away? We’re they for personal consumption?
Well I was a member of the EU at the time. And as the EU like to sue people for rule breaking I wasn't going to take that risk.
"That makes no sense, can you show me the EU rule that states you have to throw fruit away that is grown for personal consumption? | |||
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" I asked for fruits, you gave me carrots, good effort
If this helps: I have grown strawberries on my kitchen window ledge for years. The used to be EU strawberries as I tried to grow them all to the same size shape and weight.
Since liberation day - I can now enjoy a full crop as I don't need to throw half of them away any more.
It was worse for me trying to grow bananas at home, could never get the curvature to match EU regulation 2257/94, from wiki:
“Commission Regulation (EC) No. 2257/94 of 16 September 1994 laying down quality standards for bananas, sometimes referred to in the media as the bendy banana law, is a European Union regulation specifying classification standards for bananas, which took effect on 1 January 1995.[1] It was replaced by Commission Implementing Regulation (EU) No 1333/2011 of 19 December 2011 laying down marketing standards for bananas, rules on the verification of compliance with those marketing standards and requirements for notifications in the banana sector with effect as of 9 January 2012.[2]“"Where did you try to grow your bananas ? | |||
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" I asked for fruits, you gave me carrots, good effort
If this helps: I have grown strawberries on my kitchen window ledge for years. The used to be EU strawberries as I tried to grow them all to the same size shape and weight.
Since liberation day - I can now enjoy a full crop as I don't need to throw half of them away any more.
It was worse for me trying to grow bananas at home, could never get the curvature to match EU regulation 2257/94, from wiki:
“Commission Regulation (EC) No. 2257/94 of 16 September 1994 laying down quality standards for bananas, sometimes referred to in the media as the bendy banana law, is a European Union regulation specifying classification standards for bananas, which took effect on 1 January 1995.[1] It was replaced by Commission Implementing Regulation (EU) No 1333/2011 of 19 December 2011 laying down marketing standards for bananas, rules on the verification of compliance with those marketing standards and requirements for notifications in the banana sector with effect as of 9 January 2012.[2]“"Lol. I was using a Spaghetti portion measure at the time. You know the ones with the holes in, Size 4 and 1 were rejects.  | |||
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" I asked for fruits, you gave me carrots, good effort
If this helps: I have grown strawberries on my kitchen window ledge for years. The used to be EU strawberries as I tried to grow them all to the same size shape and weight.
Since liberation day - I can now enjoy a full crop as I don't need to throw half of them away any more.
Why were they on your kitchen window and not in the garden? We’re these strawberries for selling? Presuming this is a true story why would you ‘throw half of them away ‘
Oh dear - do read my paragraphs properly please. The EU doesn't allow for odd shape or sizes, everyone knows that, so when I grew mine I kept those rules and threw those ones away. Since Liberation Day I can keep them all. Miss-shapes Petite ones. Large ones !!! Doubled my crop.
Why did you throw them away? We’re they for personal consumption?
Well I was a member of the EU at the time. And as the EU like to sue people for rule breaking I wasn't going to take that risk.
That makes no sense, can you show me the EU rule that states you have to throw fruit away that is grown for personal consumption? "Oh Dear, you voted to stay, and you didn't know the rules? Shocking !!! "According to an EU-regulation (EC No 843/2002 May 21 2002) it is illegal to sell strawberries measuring less than 18 mm in diameter. The detailed EU-rules applies to strawberries sold in shops and in local markets. It is possible to sell strawberries with a smaller diameter for industrial production of jam." | |||
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"Don't make the mistake that the eu grow all their bananas they import tons from the Caribbean, S America and Africa along with lots of other winter fruits. If people were so worried about climate change they would only eat seasonal fruit and veg. " That’s true, I don’t fancy eating carrots and potatoes throughout winter though | |||
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" I asked for fruits, you gave me carrots, good effort
If this helps: I have grown strawberries on my kitchen window ledge for years. The used to be EU strawberries as I tried to grow them all to the same size shape and weight.
Since liberation day - I can now enjoy a full crop as I don't need to throw half of them away any more.
Why were they on your kitchen window and not in the garden? We’re these strawberries for selling? Presuming this is a true story why would you ‘throw half of them away ‘
Oh dear - do read my paragraphs properly please. The EU doesn't allow for odd shape or sizes, everyone knows that, so when I grew mine I kept those rules and threw those ones away. Since Liberation Day I can keep them all. Miss-shapes Petite ones. Large ones !!! Doubled my crop.
Why did you throw them away? We’re they for personal consumption?
Well I was a member of the EU at the time. And as the EU like to sue people for rule breaking I wasn't going to take that risk.
That makes no sense, can you show me the EU rule that states you have to throw fruit away that is grown for personal consumption?
Oh Dear, you voted to stay, and you didn't know the rules? Shocking !!!
"According to an EU-regulation (EC No 843/2002 May 21 2002) it is illegal to sell strawberries measuring less than 18 mm in diameter. The detailed EU-rules applies to strawberries sold in shops and in local markets. It is possible to sell strawberries with a smaller diameter for industrial production of jam."
"‘For personal consumption’ ? | |||
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" I asked for fruits, you gave me carrots, good effort
If this helps: I have grown strawberries on my kitchen window ledge for years. The used to be EU strawberries as I tried to grow them all to the same size shape and weight.
Since liberation day - I can now enjoy a full crop as I don't need to throw half of them away any more.
Why were they on your kitchen window and not in the garden? We’re these strawberries for selling? Presuming this is a true story why would you ‘throw half of them away ‘
Oh dear - do read my paragraphs properly please. The EU doesn't allow for odd shape or sizes, everyone knows that, so when I grew mine I kept those rules and threw those ones away. Since Liberation Day I can keep them all. Miss-shapes Petite ones. Large ones !!! Doubled my crop.
Why did you throw them away? We’re they for personal consumption?
Well I was a member of the EU at the time. And as the EU like to sue people for rule breaking I wasn't going to take that risk.
That makes no sense, can you show me the EU rule that states you have to throw fruit away that is grown for personal consumption?
Oh Dear, you voted to stay, and you didn't know the rules? Shocking !!!
"According to an EU-regulation (EC No 843/2002 May 21 2002) it is illegal to sell strawberries measuring less than 18 mm in diameter. The detailed EU-rules applies to strawberries sold in shops and in local markets. It is possible to sell strawberries with a smaller diameter for industrial production of jam."
‘For personal consumption’ ? "Who said that they were all personally consumed? | |||
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" I asked for fruits, you gave me carrots, good effort
If this helps: I have grown strawberries on my kitchen window ledge for years. The used to be EU strawberries as I tried to grow them all to the same size shape and weight.
Since liberation day - I can now enjoy a full crop as I don't need to throw half of them away any more.
Why were they on your kitchen window and not in the garden? We’re these strawberries for selling? Presuming this is a true story why would you ‘throw half of them away ‘
Oh dear - do read my paragraphs properly please. The EU doesn't allow for odd shape or sizes, everyone knows that, so when I grew mine I kept those rules and threw those ones away. Since Liberation Day I can keep them all. Miss-shapes Petite ones. Large ones !!! Doubled my crop.
Why did you throw them away? We’re they for personal consumption?
Well I was a member of the EU at the time. And as the EU like to sue people for rule breaking I wasn't going to take that risk.
That makes no sense, can you show me the EU rule that states you have to throw fruit away that is grown for personal consumption?
Oh Dear, you voted to stay, and you didn't know the rules? Shocking !!!
"According to an EU-regulation (EC No 843/2002 May 21 2002) it is illegal to sell strawberries measuring less than 18 mm in diameter. The detailed EU-rules applies to strawberries sold in shops and in local markets. It is possible to sell strawberries with a smaller diameter for industrial production of jam."
‘For personal consumption’ ?
Who said that they were all personally
consumed?"So you grew the strawberries on your window ledge to sell. You must have been devastated you couldn’t sell them, you must have lost out on £1 even £2 in revenue . Sad times | |||
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" I asked for fruits, you gave me carrots, good effort
If this helps: I have grown strawberries on my kitchen window ledge for years. The used to be EU strawberries as I tried to grow them all to the same size shape and weight.
Since liberation day - I can now enjoy a full crop as I don't need to throw half of them away any more.
Why were they on your kitchen window and not in the garden? We’re these strawberries for selling? Presuming this is a true story why would you ‘throw half of them away ‘
Oh dear - do read my paragraphs properly please. The EU doesn't allow for odd shape or sizes, everyone knows that, so when I grew mine I kept those rules and threw those ones away. Since Liberation Day I can keep them all. Miss-shapes Petite ones. Large ones !!! Doubled my crop.
Why did you throw them away? We’re they for personal consumption?
Well I was a member of the EU at the time. And as the EU like to sue people for rule breaking I wasn't going to take that risk.
That makes no sense, can you show me the EU rule that states you have to throw fruit away that is grown for personal consumption?
Oh Dear, you voted to stay, and you didn't know the rules? Shocking !!!
"According to an EU-regulation (EC No 843/2002 May 21 2002) it is illegal to sell strawberries measuring less than 18 mm in diameter. The detailed EU-rules applies to strawberries sold in shops and in local markets. It is possible to sell strawberries with a smaller diameter for industrial production of jam."
‘For personal consumption’ ?
Who said that they were all personally
consumed?
So you grew the strawberries on your window ledge to sell. You must have been devastated you couldn’t sell them, you must have lost out on £1 even £2 in revenue . Sad times "Now scale that up to any and all Veg/Fruit Producers anywhere in the EU, and now you are getting the SIZE (pun intended) of the problem with waste and loss of revenue. Sometimes to have to go around the little trees to really see the big ones. | |||
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" I asked for fruits, you gave me carrots, good effort
If this helps: I have grown strawberries on my kitchen window ledge for years. The used to be EU strawberries as I tried to grow them all to the same size shape and weight.
Since liberation day - I can now enjoy a full crop as I don't need to throw half of them away any more.
Why were they on your kitchen window and not in the garden? We’re these strawberries for selling? Presuming this is a true story why would you ‘throw half of them away ‘
Oh dear - do read my paragraphs properly please. The EU doesn't allow for odd shape or sizes, everyone knows that, so when I grew mine I kept those rules and threw those ones away. Since Liberation Day I can keep them all. Miss-shapes Petite ones. Large ones !!! Doubled my crop.
Why did you throw them away? We’re they for personal consumption?
Well I was a member of the EU at the time. And as the EU like to sue people for rule breaking I wasn't going to take that risk.
That makes no sense, can you show me the EU rule that states you have to throw fruit away that is grown for personal consumption?
Oh Dear, you voted to stay, and you didn't know the rules? Shocking !!!
"According to an EU-regulation (EC No 843/2002 May 21 2002) it is illegal to sell strawberries measuring less than 18 mm in diameter. The detailed EU-rules applies to strawberries sold in shops and in local markets. It is possible to sell strawberries with a smaller diameter for industrial production of jam."
‘For personal consumption’ ?
Who said that they were all personally
consumed?
So you grew the strawberries on your window ledge to sell. You must have been devastated you couldn’t sell them, you must have lost out on £1 even £2 in revenue . Sad times
Now scale that up to any and all Veg/Fruit Producers anywhere in the EU, and now you are getting the SIZE (pun intended) of the problem with waste and loss of revenue.
Sometimes to have to go around the little trees to really see the big ones.
"All those people growing strawberries on their window ledges must have been furious, at least they could turn into jam, no need to throw them away. | |||
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" I asked for fruits, you gave me carrots, good effort
If this helps: I have grown strawberries on my kitchen window ledge for years. The used to be EU strawberries as I tried to grow them all to the same size shape and weight.
Since liberation day - I can now enjoy a full crop as I don't need to throw half of them away any more.
Why were they on your kitchen window and not in the garden? We’re these strawberries for selling? Presuming this is a true story why would you ‘throw half of them away ‘
Oh dear - do read my paragraphs properly please. The EU doesn't allow for odd shape or sizes, everyone knows that, so when I grew mine I kept those rules and threw those ones away. Since Liberation Day I can keep them all. Miss-shapes Petite ones. Large ones !!! Doubled my crop.
Why did you throw them away? We’re they for personal consumption?
Well I was a member of the EU at the time. And as the EU like to sue people for rule breaking I wasn't going to take that risk.
That makes no sense, can you show me the EU rule that states you have to throw fruit away that is grown for personal consumption?
Oh Dear, you voted to stay, and you didn't know the rules? Shocking !!!
"According to an EU-regulation (EC No 843/2002 May 21 2002) it is illegal to sell strawberries measuring less than 18 mm in diameter. The detailed EU-rules applies to strawberries sold in shops and in local markets. It is possible to sell strawberries with a smaller diameter for industrial production of jam."
‘For personal consumption’ ?
Who said that they were all personally
consumed?
So you grew the strawberries on your window ledge to sell. You must have been devastated you couldn’t sell them, you must have lost out on £1 even £2 in revenue . Sad times
Now scale that up to any and all Veg/Fruit Producers anywhere in the EU, and now you are getting the SIZE (pun intended) of the problem with waste and loss of revenue.
Sometimes to have to go around the little trees to really see the big ones.
All those people growing strawberries on their window ledges must have been furious, at least they could turn into jam, no need to throw them away. "Or you could recognise what I said above | |||
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" I asked for fruits, you gave me carrots, good effort
If this helps: I have grown strawberries on my kitchen window ledge for years. The used to be EU strawberries as I tried to grow them all to the same size shape and weight.
Since liberation day - I can now enjoy a full crop as I don't need to throw half of them away any more.
Why were they on your kitchen window and not in the garden? We’re these strawberries for selling? Presuming this is a true story why would you ‘throw half of them away ‘
Oh dear - do read my paragraphs properly please. The EU doesn't allow for odd shape or sizes, everyone knows that, so when I grew mine I kept those rules and threw those ones away. Since Liberation Day I can keep them all. Miss-shapes Petite ones. Large ones !!! Doubled my crop.
Why did you throw them away? We’re they for personal consumption?
Well I was a member of the EU at the time. And as the EU like to sue people for rule breaking I wasn't going to take that risk.
That makes no sense, can you show me the EU rule that states you have to throw fruit away that is grown for personal consumption?
Oh Dear, you voted to stay, and you didn't know the rules? Shocking !!!
"According to an EU-regulation (EC No 843/2002 May 21 2002) it is illegal to sell strawberries measuring less than 18 mm in diameter. The detailed EU-rules applies to strawberries sold in shops and in local markets. It is possible to sell strawberries with a smaller diameter for industrial production of jam."
‘For personal consumption’ ?
Who said that they were all personally
consumed?
So you grew the strawberries on your window ledge to sell. You must have been devastated you couldn’t sell them, you must have lost out on £1 even £2 in revenue . Sad times
Now scale that up to any and all Veg/Fruit Producers anywhere in the EU, and now you are getting the SIZE (pun intended) of the problem with waste and loss of revenue.
Sometimes to have to go around the little trees to really see the big ones.
All those people growing strawberries on their window ledges must have been furious, at least they could turn into jam, no need to throw them away.
Or you could recognise what I said above "I did, 1 It is irrelevant because we are no longer in the EU 2 It is irrelevant because you were growing a very small number of strawberries on a window ledge 3 the minimum size 18 mm, that is tiny, if you can’t grow strawberries bigger than that to sell then your doing something wrong 4 you could turn them into jam 5 where can I now now buy strawberries smaller than 18 mm | |||
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"There you go with that irrelevant, irrelevant word again. Can't find an answer - just answer 'irrelevant'. "Where can I buy these tiny (less than 18 mm in diameter ) strawberries from? | |||
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" Where can I buy these tiny (less than 18 mm in diameter ) strawberries from? " 1. Irrelevant. To what is being said. | |||
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" Where can I buy these tiny (less than 18 mm in diameter ) strawberries from? 1. Irrelevant. To what is being said." But I want to buy some of these tiny strawberries that were ‘banned by the EU ‘ now that we aren’t in the EU, there must be millions of these tiny beauties somewhere ? | |||
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" 1. Irrelevant. To what is being said. But I want to buy some of these tiny strawberries that were ‘banned by the EU ‘ now that we aren’t in the EU, there must be millions of these tiny beauties somewhere ? " Sorry. I don't do personal-shopper, but you can look online for one. Remember, Google is your friend. | |||
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" 1. Irrelevant. To what is being said. But I want to buy some of these tiny strawberries that were ‘banned by the EU ‘ now that we aren’t in the EU, there must be millions of these tiny beauties somewhere ? Sorry. I don't do personal-shopper, but you can look online for one. Remember, Google is your friend. "I think this can be used to entice tourists into the UK.’ Brexit Britain the place where you can buy (legally ) tiny strawberries ‘ | |||
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" 1. Irrelevant. To what is being said. But I want to buy some of these tiny strawberries that were ‘banned by the EU ‘ now that we aren’t in the EU, there must be millions of these tiny beauties somewhere ? Sorry. I don't do personal-shopper, but you can look online for one. Remember, Google is your friend. "Have you stopped growing strawberries on your ‘kitchen ledge’ ? | |||
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" 1. Irrelevant. To what is being said. But I want to buy some of these tiny strawberries that were ‘banned by the EU ‘ now that we aren’t in the EU, there must be millions of these tiny beauties somewhere ? Sorry. I don't do personal-shopper, but you can look online for one. Remember, Google is your friend.
I think this can be used to entice tourists into the UK.’ Brexit Britain the place where you can buy (legally ) tiny strawberries ‘ "Also add the misshapen ones to your poster too. Make it colourful, kids in particular like faces drawn on fruit. - remember to that 'if you open it they will come'. Good luck with your new venture. Enterprising UK is good for business. | |||
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" 1. Irrelevant. To what is being said. But I want to buy some of these tiny strawberries that were ‘banned by the EU ‘ now that we aren’t in the EU, there must be millions of these tiny beauties somewhere ? Sorry. I don't do personal-shopper, but you can look online for one. Remember, Google is your friend.
I think this can be used to entice tourists into the UK.’ Brexit Britain the place where you can buy (legally ) tiny strawberries ‘
Also add the misshapen ones to your poster too. Make it colourful, kids in particular like faces drawn on fruit. - remember to that 'if you open it they will come'.
Good luck with your new venture. Enterprising UK is good for business.
"I will let you know when and where we can buy these tiny, misshapen strawberries . I just hope they don’t all sell out before I get to the shops, the public must be desperate to buy them | |||
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" 1. Irrelevant. To what is being said. But I want to buy some of these tiny strawberries that were ‘banned by the EU ‘ now that we aren’t in the EU, there must be millions of these tiny beauties somewhere ? Sorry. I don't do personal-shopper, but you can look online for one. Remember, Google is your friend.
I think this can be used to entice tourists into the UK.’ Brexit Britain the place where you can buy (legally ) tiny strawberries ‘
Also add the misshapen ones to your poster too. Make it colourful, kids in particular like faces drawn on fruit. - remember to that 'if you open it they will come'.
Good luck with your new venture. Enterprising UK is good for business.
I will let you know when and where we can buy these tiny, misshapen strawberries . I just hope they don’t all sell out before I get to the shops, the public must be desperate to buy them "You've probably never even tried a straight banana either | |||
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" 1. Irrelevant. To what is being said. But I want to buy some of these tiny strawberries that were ‘banned by the EU ‘ now that we aren’t in the EU, there must be millions of these tiny beauties somewhere ? Sorry. I don't do personal-shopper, but you can look online for one. Remember, Google is your friend.
I think this can be used to entice tourists into the UK.’ Brexit Britain the place where you can buy (legally ) tiny strawberries ‘
Also add the misshapen ones to your poster too. Make it colourful, kids in particular like faces drawn on fruit. - remember to that 'if you open it they will come'.
Good luck with your new venture. Enterprising UK is good for business.
I will let you know when and where we can buy these tiny, misshapen strawberries . I just hope they don’t all sell out before I get to the shops, the public must be desperate to buy them
You've probably never even tried a straight banana either "No, but I bet you have ? Where do I get these delicacies from? They just be selling them everywhere? | |||
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" 1. Irrelevant. To what is being said. But I want to buy some of these tiny strawberries that were ‘banned by the EU ‘ now that we aren’t in the EU, there must be millions of these tiny beauties somewhere ? Sorry. I don't do personal-shopper, but you can look online for one. Remember, Google is your friend.
I think this can be used to entice tourists into the UK.’ Brexit Britain the place where you can buy (legally ) tiny strawberries ‘
Also add the misshapen ones to your poster too. Make it colourful, kids in particular like faces drawn on fruit. - remember to that 'if you open it they will come'.
Good luck with your new venture. Enterprising UK is good for business.
I will let you know when and where we can buy these tiny, misshapen strawberries . I just hope they don’t all sell out before I get to the shops, the public must be desperate to buy them
You've probably never even tried a straight banana either
No, but I bet you have ? Where do I get these delicacies from? They just be selling them everywhere? "Must | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. I have repeatedly so please stop saying that Chris. I do include you in that, I’ve read many times your minor paperwork complaints. Far as I can see A) you’re being kept busy, which is good. Busy is good from a job point of view B) you have a job, probably doing overtime, so you’re better off. I say again, and it’s a a repetitive point I know... no one has shown how they, personally, are worse off. And you’re better off. Riddle me that. Wow... King of Spin.
Which part is not true?
You’ve made assumptions. You don’t know if the overtime is a result of extra business or extra complications. You’ve also dismissed their concerns to paint a picture which may not be accurate. Is that not spin?
Not at all. I have consistently asked the straightforward question for anyone to show how they, personally, have been negatively affected by Brexit.
This is a very simple and precise question posed in my usual forensic fashion.
Answer there has been none.
I could tell you how it's affected me and lots of people I know, but instead I'll tell one way how it's affected you and nearly everyone else in the UK. The UK imports most of it's food. Since the 2016 referendum, sterling has fallen considerably in value. This means the cost of food has gone up for the UK shopper. I would call paying more for the same a negative impact, and a widespread impact at that.
Sorry but that's rubbish
We do not import "most of our food"
We are actually able to be self sufficient, except that consumers want mangoes in February etc
Wheat production for example has increased from 6 tonnes a hectare after the war to 14 now.
There have been no food inflation figures published at all that show any basket increases.
Plus we get tariff free products from the rest of the world - South African oranges - cheaper than we got before. "According to Global Food Security, the UK cross-government programme on food security research, we import around 48% of total food consumed. Think I'm going to start a thread. | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. I have repeatedly so please stop saying that Chris. I do include you in that, I’ve read many times your minor paperwork complaints. Far as I can see A) you’re being kept busy, which is good. Busy is good from a job point of view B) you have a job, probably doing overtime, so you’re better off. I say again, and it’s a a repetitive point I know... no one has shown how they, personally, are worse off. And you’re better off. Riddle me that. Wow... King of Spin.
Which part is not true?
You’ve made assumptions. You don’t know if the overtime is a result of extra business or extra complications. You’ve also dismissed their concerns to paint a picture which may not be accurate. Is that not spin?
Not at all. I have consistently asked the straightforward question for anyone to show how they, personally, have been negatively affected by Brexit.
This is a very simple and precise question posed in my usual forensic fashion.
Answer there has been none.
I could tell you how it's affected me and lots of people I know, but instead I'll tell one way how it's affected you and nearly everyone else in the UK. The UK imports most of it's food. Since the 2016 referendum, sterling has fallen considerably in value. This means the cost of food has gone up for the UK shopper. I would call paying more for the same a negative impact, and a widespread impact at that.
Sorry but that's rubbish
We do not import "most of our food"
We are actually able to be self sufficient, except that consumers want mangoes in February etc
Wheat production for example has increased from 6 tonnes a hectare after the war to 14 now.
There have been no food inflation figures published at all that show any basket increases.
Plus we get tariff free products from the rest of the world - South African oranges - cheaper than we got before.
According to Global Food Security, the UK cross-government programme on food security research, we import around 48% of total food consumed.
Think I'm going to start a thread. "Yeah but, if we just stick to carrots, potatoes and leeks we would be ok | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. I have repeatedly so please stop saying that Chris. I do include you in that, I’ve read many times your minor paperwork complaints. Far as I can see A) you’re being kept busy, which is good. Busy is good from a job point of view B) you have a job, probably doing overtime, so you’re better off. I say again, and it’s a a repetitive point I know... no one has shown how they, personally, are worse off. And you’re better off. Riddle me that. Wow... King of Spin.
Which part is not true?
You’ve made assumptions. You don’t know if the overtime is a result of extra business or extra complications. You’ve also dismissed their concerns to paint a picture which may not be accurate. Is that not spin?
Not at all. I have consistently asked the straightforward question for anyone to show how they, personally, have been negatively affected by Brexit.
This is a very simple and precise question posed in my usual forensic fashion.
Answer there has been none.
I could tell you how it's affected me and lots of people I know, but instead I'll tell one way how it's affected you and nearly everyone else in the UK. The UK imports most of it's food. Since the 2016 referendum, sterling has fallen considerably in value. This means the cost of food has gone up for the UK shopper. I would call paying more for the same a negative impact, and a widespread impact at that.
Sorry but that's rubbish
We do not import "most of our food"
We are actually able to be self sufficient, except that consumers want mangoes in February etc
Wheat production for example has increased from 6 tonnes a hectare after the war to 14 now.
There have been no food inflation figures published at all that show any basket increases.
Plus we get tariff free products from the rest of the world - South African oranges - cheaper than we got before.
According to Global Food Security, the UK cross-government programme on food security research, we import around 48% of total food consumed.
Think I'm going to start a thread.
Yeah but, if we just stick to carrots, potatoes and leeks we would be ok "The people who know, have given you all the information you need to make informed judgement ITT. Or you can carry on just talking the country down as usual. | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. I have repeatedly so please stop saying that Chris. I do include you in that, I’ve read many times your minor paperwork complaints. Far as I can see A) you’re being kept busy, which is good. Busy is good from a job point of view B) you have a job, probably doing overtime, so you’re better off. I say again, and it’s a a repetitive point I know... no one has shown how they, personally, are worse off. And you’re better off. Riddle me that. Wow... King of Spin.
Which part is not true?
You’ve made assumptions. You don’t know if the overtime is a result of extra business or extra complications. You’ve also dismissed their concerns to paint a picture which may not be accurate. Is that not spin?
Not at all. I have consistently asked the straightforward question for anyone to show how they, personally, have been negatively affected by Brexit.
This is a very simple and precise question posed in my usual forensic fashion.
Answer there has been none.
I could tell you how it's affected me and lots of people I know, but instead I'll tell one way how it's affected you and nearly everyone else in the UK. The UK imports most of it's food. Since the 2016 referendum, sterling has fallen considerably in value. This means the cost of food has gone up for the UK shopper. I would call paying more for the same a negative impact, and a widespread impact at that.
Sorry but that's rubbish
We do not import "most of our food"
We are actually able to be self sufficient, except that consumers want mangoes in February etc
Wheat production for example has increased from 6 tonnes a hectare after the war to 14 now.
There have been no food inflation figures published at all that show any basket increases.
Plus we get tariff free products from the rest of the world - South African oranges - cheaper than we got before.
According to Global Food Security, the UK cross-government programme on food security research, we import around 48% of total food consumed.
Think I'm going to start a thread.
Yeah but, if we just stick to carrots, potatoes and leeks we would be ok
The people who know, have given you all the information you need to make informed judgement ITT.
Or you can carry on just talking the country down as usual. "Why should I have to eat carrots in the winter when I want Mangos? You brought these vegetables and fruits onto the thread, not me . | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. I have repeatedly so please stop saying that Chris. I do include you in that, I’ve read many times your minor paperwork complaints. Far as I can see A) you’re being kept busy, which is good. Busy is good from a job point of view B) you have a job, probably doing overtime, so you’re better off. I say again, and it’s a a repetitive point I know... no one has shown how they, personally, are worse off. And you’re better off. Riddle me that. Wow... King of Spin.
Which part is not true?
You’ve made assumptions. You don’t know if the overtime is a result of extra business or extra complications. You’ve also dismissed their concerns to paint a picture which may not be accurate. Is that not spin?
Not at all. I have consistently asked the straightforward question for anyone to show how they, personally, have been negatively affected by Brexit.
This is a very simple and precise question posed in my usual forensic fashion.
Answer there has been none.
I could tell you how it's affected me and lots of people I know, but instead I'll tell one way how it's affected you and nearly everyone else in the UK. The UK imports most of it's food. Since the 2016 referendum, sterling has fallen considerably in value. This means the cost of food has gone up for the UK shopper. I would call paying more for the same a negative impact, and a widespread impact at that.
Sorry but that's rubbish
We do not import "most of our food"
We are actually able to be self sufficient, except that consumers want mangoes in February etc
Wheat production for example has increased from 6 tonnes a hectare after the war to 14 now.
There have been no food inflation figures published at all that show any basket increases.
Plus we get tariff free products from the rest of the world - South African oranges - cheaper than we got before.
According to Global Food Security, the UK cross-government programme on food security research, we import around 48% of total food consumed.
Think I'm going to start a thread.
Yeah but, if we just stick to carrots, potatoes and leeks we would be ok
The people who know, have given you all the information you need to make informed judgement ITT.
Or you can carry on just talking the country down as usual.
Why should I have to eat carrots in the winter when I want Mangos? You brought these vegetables and fruits onto the thread, not me . "My crew has given you a load of British grown year round fruit options. | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. I have repeatedly so please stop saying that Chris. I do include you in that, I’ve read many times your minor paperwork complaints. Far as I can see A) you’re being kept busy, which is good. Busy is good from a job point of view B) you have a job, probably doing overtime, so you’re better off. I say again, and it’s a a repetitive point I know... no one has shown how they, personally, are worse off. And you’re better off. Riddle me that. Wow... King of Spin.
Which part is not true?
You’ve made assumptions. You don’t know if the overtime is a result of extra business or extra complications. You’ve also dismissed their concerns to paint a picture which may not be accurate. Is that not spin?
Not at all. I have consistently asked the straightforward question for anyone to show how they, personally, have been negatively affected by Brexit.
This is a very simple and precise question posed in my usual forensic fashion.
Answer there has been none.
I could tell you how it's affected me and lots of people I know, but instead I'll tell one way how it's affected you and nearly everyone else in the UK. The UK imports most of it's food. Since the 2016 referendum, sterling has fallen considerably in value. This means the cost of food has gone up for the UK shopper. I would call paying more for the same a negative impact, and a widespread impact at that.
Sorry but that's rubbish
We do not import "most of our food"
We are actually able to be self sufficient, except that consumers want mangoes in February etc
Wheat production for example has increased from 6 tonnes a hectare after the war to 14 now.
There have been no food inflation figures published at all that show any basket increases.
Plus we get tariff free products from the rest of the world - South African oranges - cheaper than we got before.
According to Global Food Security, the UK cross-government programme on food security research, we import around 48% of total food consumed.
Think I'm going to start a thread.
Yeah but, if we just stick to carrots, potatoes and leeks we would be ok
The people who know, have given you all the information you need to make informed judgement ITT.
Or you can carry on just talking the country down as usual.
Why should I have to eat carrots in the winter when I want Mangos? You brought these vegetables and fruits onto the thread, not me .
My crew has given you a load of British grown year round fruit options. "You don’t have a crew. I want mangos , why should I settle for midget strawberries grown on a window ledge ? | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. I have repeatedly so please stop saying that Chris. I do include you in that, I’ve read many times your minor paperwork complaints. Far as I can see A) you’re being kept busy, which is good. Busy is good from a job point of view B) you have a job, probably doing overtime, so you’re better off. I say again, and it’s a a repetitive point I know... no one has shown how they, personally, are worse off. And you’re better off. Riddle me that. Wow... King of Spin.
Which part is not true?
You’ve made assumptions. You don’t know if the overtime is a result of extra business or extra complications. You’ve also dismissed their concerns to paint a picture which may not be accurate. Is that not spin?
Not at all. I have consistently asked the straightforward question for anyone to show how they, personally, have been negatively affected by Brexit.
This is a very simple and precise question posed in my usual forensic fashion.
Answer there has been none.
I could tell you how it's affected me and lots of people I know, but instead I'll tell one way how it's affected you and nearly everyone else in the UK. The UK imports most of it's food. Since the 2016 referendum, sterling has fallen considerably in value. This means the cost of food has gone up for the UK shopper. I would call paying more for the same a negative impact, and a widespread impact at that.
Sorry but that's rubbish
We do not import "most of our food"
We are actually able to be self sufficient, except that consumers want mangoes in February etc
Wheat production for example has increased from 6 tonnes a hectare after the war to 14 now.
There have been no food inflation figures published at all that show any basket increases.
Plus we get tariff free products from the rest of the world - South African oranges - cheaper than we got before.
According to Global Food Security, the UK cross-government programme on food security research, we import around 48% of total food consumed.
Think I'm going to start a thread.
Yeah but, if we just stick to carrots, potatoes and leeks we would be ok
The people who know, have given you all the information you need to make informed judgement ITT.
Or you can carry on just talking the country down as usual.
Why should I have to eat carrots in the winter when I want Mangos? You brought these vegetables and fruits onto the thread, not me .
My crew has given you a load of British grown year round fruit options. "Who?  | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. I have repeatedly so please stop saying that Chris. I do include you in that, I’ve read many times your minor paperwork complaints. Far as I can see A) you’re being kept busy, which is good. Busy is good from a job point of view B) you have a job, probably doing overtime, so you’re better off. I say again, and it’s a a repetitive point I know... no one has shown how they, personally, are worse off. And you’re better off. Riddle me that. Wow... King of Spin.
Which part is not true?
You’ve made assumptions. You don’t know if the overtime is a result of extra business or extra complications. You’ve also dismissed their concerns to paint a picture which may not be accurate. Is that not spin?
Not at all. I have consistently asked the straightforward question for anyone to show how they, personally, have been negatively affected by Brexit.
This is a very simple and precise question posed in my usual forensic fashion.
Answer there has been none.
I could tell you how it's affected me and lots of people I know, but instead I'll tell one way how it's affected you and nearly everyone else in the UK. The UK imports most of it's food. Since the 2016 referendum, sterling has fallen considerably in value. This means the cost of food has gone up for the UK shopper. I would call paying more for the same a negative impact, and a widespread impact at that.
Sorry but that's rubbish
We do not import "most of our food"
We are actually able to be self sufficient, except that consumers want mangoes in February etc
Wheat production for example has increased from 6 tonnes a hectare after the war to 14 now.
There have been no food inflation figures published at all that show any basket increases.
Plus we get tariff free products from the rest of the world - South African oranges - cheaper than we got before.
According to Global Food Security, the UK cross-government programme on food security research, we import around 48% of total food consumed.
Think I'm going to start a thread. "About 1/3 of all food produced in the UK or imported is wasted according to scientists at Loughborough University. That only leave around 15% difference | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. I have repeatedly so please stop saying that Chris. I do include you in that, I’ve read many times your minor paperwork complaints. Far as I can see A) you’re being kept busy, which is good. Busy is good from a job point of view B) you have a job, probably doing overtime, so you’re better off. I say again, and it’s a a repetitive point I know... no one has shown how they, personally, are worse off. And you’re better off. Riddle me that. Wow... King of Spin.
Which part is not true?
You’ve made assumptions. You don’t know if the overtime is a result of extra business or extra complications. You’ve also dismissed their concerns to paint a picture which may not be accurate. Is that not spin?
Not at all. I have consistently asked the straightforward question for anyone to show how they, personally, have been negatively affected by Brexit.
This is a very simple and precise question posed in my usual forensic fashion.
Answer there has been none.
I could tell you how it's affected me and lots of people I know, but instead I'll tell one way how it's affected you and nearly everyone else in the UK. The UK imports most of it's food. Since the 2016 referendum, sterling has fallen considerably in value. This means the cost of food has gone up for the UK shopper. I would call paying more for the same a negative impact, and a widespread impact at that.
Sorry but that's rubbish
We do not import "most of our food"
We are actually able to be self sufficient, except that consumers want mangoes in February etc
Wheat production for example has increased from 6 tonnes a hectare after the war to 14 now.
There have been no food inflation figures published at all that show any basket increases.
Plus we get tariff free products from the rest of the world - South African oranges - cheaper than we got before.
According to Global Food Security, the UK cross-government programme on food security research, we import around 48% of total food consumed.
Think I'm going to start a thread.
About 1/3 of all food produced in the UK or imported is wasted according to scientists at Loughborough University.
That only leave around 15% difference "No it doesn’t. Flawed logic. That would only be the case if only the imported food was wasted. | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. I have repeatedly so please stop saying that Chris. I do include you in that, I’ve read many times your minor paperwork complaints. Far as I can see A) you’re being kept busy, which is good. Busy is good from a job point of view B) you have a job, probably doing overtime, so you’re better off. I say again, and it’s a a repetitive point I know... no one has shown how they, personally, are worse off. And you’re better off. Riddle me that. Wow... King of Spin.
Which part is not true?
You’ve made assumptions. You don’t know if the overtime is a result of extra business or extra complications. You’ve also dismissed their concerns to paint a picture which may not be accurate. Is that not spin?
Not at all. I have consistently asked the straightforward question for anyone to show how they, personally, have been negatively affected by Brexit.
This is a very simple and precise question posed in my usual forensic fashion.
Answer there has been none.
I could tell you how it's affected me and lots of people I know, but instead I'll tell one way how it's affected you and nearly everyone else in the UK. The UK imports most of it's food. Since the 2016 referendum, sterling has fallen considerably in value. This means the cost of food has gone up for the UK shopper. I would call paying more for the same a negative impact, and a widespread impact at that.
Sorry but that's rubbish
We do not import "most of our food"
We are actually able to be self sufficient, except that consumers want mangoes in February etc
Wheat production for example has increased from 6 tonnes a hectare after the war to 14 now.
There have been no food inflation figures published at all that show any basket increases.
Plus we get tariff free products from the rest of the world - South African oranges - cheaper than we got before.
According to Global Food Security, the UK cross-government programme on food security research, we import around 48% of total food consumed.
Think I'm going to start a thread.
About 1/3 of all food produced in the UK or imported is wasted according to scientists at Loughborough University.
That only leave around 15% difference
No it doesn’t. Flawed logic. That would only be the case if only the imported food was wasted. "I understand it's flawed but would we as a nation waste so much if we didn't have such variety? I don't think we would. | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. I have repeatedly so please stop saying that Chris. I do include you in that, I’ve read many times your minor paperwork complaints. Far as I can see A) you’re being kept busy, which is good. Busy is good from a job point of view B) you have a job, probably doing overtime, so you’re better off. I say again, and it’s a a repetitive point I know... no one has shown how they, personally, are worse off. And you’re better off. Riddle me that. Wow... King of Spin.
Which part is not true?
You’ve made assumptions. You don’t know if the overtime is a result of extra business or extra complications. You’ve also dismissed their concerns to paint a picture which may not be accurate. Is that not spin?
Not at all. I have consistently asked the straightforward question for anyone to show how they, personally, have been negatively affected by Brexit.
This is a very simple and precise question posed in my usual forensic fashion.
Answer there has been none.
I could tell you how it's affected me and lots of people I know, but instead I'll tell one way how it's affected you and nearly everyone else in the UK. The UK imports most of it's food. Since the 2016 referendum, sterling has fallen considerably in value. This means the cost of food has gone up for the UK shopper. I would call paying more for the same a negative impact, and a widespread impact at that.
Sorry but that's rubbish
We do not import "most of our food"
We are actually able to be self sufficient, except that consumers want mangoes in February etc
Wheat production for example has increased from 6 tonnes a hectare after the war to 14 now.
There have been no food inflation figures published at all that show any basket increases.
Plus we get tariff free products from the rest of the world - South African oranges - cheaper than we got before.
According to Global Food Security, the UK cross-government programme on food security research, we import around 48% of total food consumed.
Think I'm going to start a thread.
About 1/3 of all food produced in the UK or imported is wasted according to scientists at Loughborough University.
That only leave around 15% difference
No it doesn’t. Flawed logic. That would only be the case if only the imported food was wasted.
I understand it's flawed but would we as a nation waste so much if we didn't have such variety?
I don't think we would."it’s because it’s cheap that’s why easy to waste | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. " | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. " Yeah, hoping and praying the EU collapses is the last hope for brexiteers to justify their vote. I don't think most of them realise this would also have a detrimental effect on the UK economy, which is already suffering. | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. Yeah, hoping and praying the EU collapses is the last hope for brexiteers to justify their vote. I don't think most of them realise this would also have a detrimental effect on the UK economy, which is already suffering." Brexit is a cult. Everything is explainable away by more fantasies, more lies and lots and lots of wishful thinking. | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. Yeah, hoping and praying the EU collapses is the last hope for brexiteers to justify their vote. I don't think most of them realise this would also have a detrimental effect on the UK economy, which is already suffering. Brexit is a cult. Everything is explainable away by more fantasies, more lies and lots and lots of wishful thinking." Drink in those salty remainer tears lol | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. Yeah, hoping and praying the EU collapses is the last hope for brexiteers to justify their vote. I don't think most of them realise this would also have a detrimental effect on the UK economy, which is already suffering. Brexit is a cult. Everything is explainable away by more fantasies, more lies and lots and lots of wishful thinking. Drink in those salty remainer tears lol" Why do you equate having a gasp on reality with crying? And why would you celebrate someone who is in tears? | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. Yeah, hoping and praying the EU collapses is the last hope for brexiteers to justify their vote. I don't think most of them realise this would also have a detrimental effect on the UK economy, which is already suffering. Brexit is a cult. Everything is explainable away by more fantasies, more lies and lots and lots of wishful thinking. Drink in those salty remainer tears lol" Ah, the ‘salty remainer tears’ quote, a sure sign that you have lost the argument, is that all you have | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. " The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left " How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left " Now who's dreaming lol | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left Now who's dreaming lol" Of course it will, let’s be honest, if the EU doesn’t fail Brexit has failed, that’s all you have left to justify your vote hence your obsession with posting anything negative about them. They don’t care about you Chris, | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already" No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left Now who's dreaming lol Of course it will, let’s be honest, if the EU doesn’t fail Brexit has failed, that’s all you have left to justify your vote hence your obsession with posting anything negative about them. They don’t care about you Chris, "Brexit hasn't failed if the EU doesn't fail. I only speak for myself but i want the EU to flourish,or singular nations (whichever those EU states decide) with the UK alongside them. It’s the only way it can be a great success. Until everyone stops with the pettiness though, that isn't gonna happen. | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change " I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit" Remainers appeasing Brussels bear a lot of responsibility for Brexit | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit" And that was their biggest mistake, but let’s behonest, there were people (Farage) that would never have accepted any changes and works have pushed to leave anyway | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit Remainers appeasing Brussels bear a lot of responsibility for Brexit " I thought Brexit was great? Why should they ‘bear responsibility’ for Brexit ? Shouldn’t you be thanking them instead | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit Remainers appeasing Brussels bear a lot of responsibility for Brexit I thought Brexit was great? Why should they ‘bear responsibility’ for Brexit ? Shouldn’t you be thanking them instead " I didn't say anything negative there, funny how you read what fits your prejudices. I'm thanking you in fact. Cheers. | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left Now who's dreaming lol Of course it will, let’s be honest, if the EU doesn’t fail Brexit has failed, that’s all you have left to justify your vote hence your obsession with posting anything negative about them. They don’t care about you Chris,
Brexit hasn't failed if the EU doesn't fail.
I only speak for myself but i want the EU to flourish,or singular nations (whichever those EU states decide) with the UK alongside them. It’s the only way it can be a great success. Until everyone stops with the pettiness though, that isn't gonna happen.
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit Remainers appeasing Brussels bear a lot of responsibility for Brexit I thought Brexit was great? Why should they ‘bear responsibility’ for Brexit ? Shouldn’t you be thanking them instead I didn't say anything negative there, funny how you read what fits your prejudices. I'm thanking you in fact. Cheers. "Glad I can help, but let’s be honest, the only true Brexit was a no deal, your left with a crappy compromise | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit And that was their biggest mistake, but let’s behonest, there were people (Farage) that would never have accepted any changes and works have pushed to leave anyway " Just as there are people in all walks of life who never accept things. I mean we only have to look at this very subject to see that. | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit And that was their biggest mistake, but let’s behonest, there were people (Farage) that would never have accepted any changes and works have pushed to leave anyway Just as there are people in all walks of life who never accept things. I mean we only have to look at this very subject to see that." Why should all remain voters accept what is happening ? | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit And that was their biggest mistake, but let’s behonest, there were people (Farage) that would never have accepted any changes and works have pushed to leave anyway Just as there are people in all walks of life who never accept things. I mean we only have to look at this very subject to see that. Why should all remain voters accept what is happening ? " I didn't say they should. You brought up the fact that some people will never accept change. You want people to accept change unless it doesn't suit? That a very insular viewpoint | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit And that was their biggest mistake, but let’s behonest, there were people (Farage) that would never have accepted any changes and works have pushed to leave anyway Just as there are people in all walks of life who never accept things. I mean we only have to look at this very subject to see that. Why should all remain voters accept what is happening ? I didn't say they should. You brought up the fact that some people will never accept change. You want people to accept change unless it doesn't suit? That a very insular viewpoint " No I don’t, you can’t please everyone. If we want to rejoin the EU we need to follow what Farage and his ‘partys’ did , create division, obstruct, moan etc etc | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit And that was their biggest mistake, but let’s behonest, there were people (Farage) that would never have accepted any changes and works have pushed to leave anyway Just as there are people in all walks of life who never accept things. I mean we only have to look at this very subject to see that. Why should all remain voters accept what is happening ? I didn't say they should. You brought up the fact that some people will never accept change. You want people to accept change unless it doesn't suit? That a very insular viewpoint No I don’t, you can’t please everyone. If we want to rejoin the EU we need to follow what Farage and his ‘partys’ did , create division, obstruct, moan etc etc " Well we have 40 years of that to look forward to. As long as you can rest in peace knowing you've bitched about Britain for the rest of your days, you'll be good | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit And that was their biggest mistake, but let’s behonest, there were people (Farage) that would never have accepted any changes and works have pushed to leave anyway Just as there are people in all walks of life who never accept things. I mean we only have to look at this very subject to see that. Why should all remain voters accept what is happening ? I didn't say they should. You brought up the fact that some people will never accept change. You want people to accept change unless it doesn't suit? That a very insular viewpoint No I don’t, you can’t please everyone. If we want to rejoin the EU we need to follow what Farage and his ‘partys’ did , create division, obstruct, moan etc etc Well we have 40 years of that to look forward to. As long as you can rest in peace knowing you've bitched about Britain for the rest of your days, you'll be good "Like Farage and his supporters did? Moaned, obstructed, demonised immigrants etc it’s a shitty tactic but it worked | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit And that was their biggest mistake, but let’s behonest, there were people (Farage) that would never have accepted any changes and works have pushed to leave anyway Just as there are people in all walks of life who never accept things. I mean we only have to look at this very subject to see that. Why should all remain voters accept what is happening ? I didn't say they should. You brought up the fact that some people will never accept change. You want people to accept change unless it doesn't suit? That a very insular viewpoint No I don’t, you can’t please everyone. If we want to rejoin the EU we need to follow what Farage and his ‘partys’ did , create division, obstruct, moan etc etc " Good luck with that, meanwhile i shall be enjoying my life free from the eu. | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit And that was their biggest mistake, but let’s behonest, there were people (Farage) that would never have accepted any changes and works have pushed to leave anyway Just as there are people in all walks of life who never accept things. I mean we only have to look at this very subject to see that. Why should all remain voters accept what is happening ? I didn't say they should. You brought up the fact that some people will never accept change. You want people to accept change unless it doesn't suit? That a very insular viewpoint " Remainers problem all over there ^^^^ Liberal woke tolerance live and let live let's all get along happy clappy... Unless we disagree with your opinions lol | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit And that was their biggest mistake, but let’s behonest, there were people (Farage) that would never have accepted any changes and works have pushed to leave anyway Just as there are people in all walks of life who never accept things. I mean we only have to look at this very subject to see that. Why should all remain voters accept what is happening ? I didn't say they should. You brought up the fact that some people will never accept change. You want people to accept change unless it doesn't suit? That a very insular viewpoint No I don’t, you can’t please everyone. If we want to rejoin the EU we need to follow what Farage and his ‘partys’ did , create division, obstruct, moan etc etc Good luck with that, meanwhile i shall be enjoying my life free from the eu. "In what ways did the EU curtail your freedom? | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit And that was their biggest mistake, but let’s behonest, there were people (Farage) that would never have accepted any changes and works have pushed to leave anyway Just as there are people in all walks of life who never accept things. I mean we only have to look at this very subject to see that. Why should all remain voters accept what is happening ? I didn't say they should. You brought up the fact that some people will never accept change. You want people to accept change unless it doesn't suit? That a very insular viewpoint No I don’t, you can’t please everyone. If we want to rejoin the EU we need to follow what Farage and his ‘partys’ did , create division, obstruct, moan etc etc Well we have 40 years of that to look forward to. As long as you can rest in peace knowing you've bitched about Britain for the rest of your days, you'll be good
Like Farage and his supporters did? Moaned, obstructed, demonised immigrants etc it’s a shitty tactic but it worked "I'm very surprised that you seem to hold Farage in such high regard that you want to emulate him | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit And that was their biggest mistake, but let’s behonest, there were people (Farage) that would never have accepted any changes and works have pushed to leave anyway Just as there are people in all walks of life who never accept things. I mean we only have to look at this very subject to see that. Why should all remain voters accept what is happening ? I didn't say they should. You brought up the fact that some people will never accept change. You want people to accept change unless it doesn't suit? That a very insular viewpoint No I don’t, you can’t please everyone. If we want to rejoin the EU we need to follow what Farage and his ‘partys’ did , create division, obstruct, moan etc etc Good luck with that, meanwhile i shall be enjoying my life free from the eu.
In what ways did the EU curtail your freedom?
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit And that was their biggest mistake, but let’s behonest, there were people (Farage) that would never have accepted any changes and works have pushed to leave anyway Just as there are people in all walks of life who never accept things. I mean we only have to look at this very subject to see that. Why should all remain voters accept what is happening ? I didn't say they should. You brought up the fact that some people will never accept change. You want people to accept change unless it doesn't suit? That a very insular viewpoint No I don’t, you can’t please everyone. If we want to rejoin the EU we need to follow what Farage and his ‘partys’ did , create division, obstruct, moan etc etc Good luck with that, meanwhile i shall be enjoying my life free from the eu.
In what ways did the EU curtail your freedom?
Who said they did ?"You implied it when you said "meanwhile i shall be enjoying my life free from the eu". Surely this wasn't just meaningless rhetoric!?! | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit And that was their biggest mistake, but let’s behonest, there were people (Farage) that would never have accepted any changes and works have pushed to leave anyway Just as there are people in all walks of life who never accept things. I mean we only have to look at this very subject to see that. Why should all remain voters accept what is happening ? I didn't say they should. You brought up the fact that some people will never accept change. You want people to accept change unless it doesn't suit? That a very insular viewpoint No I don’t, you can’t please everyone. If we want to rejoin the EU we need to follow what Farage and his ‘partys’ did , create division, obstruct, moan etc etc Good luck with that, meanwhile i shall be enjoying my life free from the eu.
In what ways did the EU curtail your freedom?
Who said they did ?
You implied it when you said "meanwhile i shall be enjoying my life free from the eu".
Surely this wasn't just meaningless rhetoric!?! "You have never heard of that phrase? it implies no such thing only your interpretation of it. For instance it could mean free from having to pay into it anymore or free from the rules they impose. I consider myself free from the self elected elite of brussels now and im enjoying it. | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit And that was their biggest mistake, but let’s behonest, there were people (Farage) that would never have accepted any changes and works have pushed to leave anyway Just as there are people in all walks of life who never accept things. I mean we only have to look at this very subject to see that. Why should all remain voters accept what is happening ? I didn't say they should. You brought up the fact that some people will never accept change. You want people to accept change unless it doesn't suit? That a very insular viewpoint No I don’t, you can’t please everyone. If we want to rejoin the EU we need to follow what Farage and his ‘partys’ did , create division, obstruct, moan etc etc Good luck with that, meanwhile i shall be enjoying my life free from the eu. "How was your life whilst we were in the EU? | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit And that was their biggest mistake, but let’s behonest, there were people (Farage) that would never have accepted any changes and works have pushed to leave anyway Just as there are people in all walks of life who never accept things. I mean we only have to look at this very subject to see that. Why should all remain voters accept what is happening ? I didn't say they should. You brought up the fact that some people will never accept change. You want people to accept change unless it doesn't suit? That a very insular viewpoint No I don’t, you can’t please everyone. If we want to rejoin the EU we need to follow what Farage and his ‘partys’ did , create division, obstruct, moan etc etc Well we have 40 years of that to look forward to. As long as you can rest in peace knowing you've bitched about Britain for the rest of your days, you'll be good
Like Farage and his supporters did? Moaned, obstructed, demonised immigrants etc it’s a shitty tactic but it worked
I'm very surprised that you seem to hold Farage in such high regard that you want to emulate him "He is a cunt, but he helped get Brexit, being a lying racist cunt gets results, apparently | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit And that was their biggest mistake, but let’s behonest, there were people (Farage) that would never have accepted any changes and works have pushed to leave anyway Just as there are people in all walks of life who never accept things. I mean we only have to look at this very subject to see that. Why should all remain voters accept what is happening ? I didn't say they should. You brought up the fact that some people will never accept change. You want people to accept change unless it doesn't suit? That a very insular viewpoint Remainers problem all over there ^^^^ Liberal woke tolerance live and let live let's all get along happy clappy... Unless we disagree with your opinions lol" What is a ‘liberal woke’ ? | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit And that was their biggest mistake, but let’s behonest, there were people (Farage) that would never have accepted any changes and works have pushed to leave anyway Just as there are people in all walks of life who never accept things. I mean we only have to look at this very subject to see that. Why should all remain voters accept what is happening ? I didn't say they should. You brought up the fact that some people will never accept change. You want people to accept change unless it doesn't suit? That a very insular viewpoint No I don’t, you can’t please everyone. If we want to rejoin the EU we need to follow what Farage and his ‘partys’ did , create division, obstruct, moan etc etc Well we have 40 years of that to look forward to. As long as you can rest in peace knowing you've bitched about Britain for the rest of your days, you'll be good
Like Farage and his supporters did? Moaned, obstructed, demonised immigrants etc it’s a shitty tactic but it worked
I'm very surprised that you seem to hold Farage in such high regard that you want to emulate him
He is a cunt, but he helped get Brexit, being a lying racist cunt gets results, apparently "Did you see him get pranked? | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit And that was their biggest mistake, but let’s behonest, there were people (Farage) that would never have accepted any changes and works have pushed to leave anyway Just as there are people in all walks of life who never accept things. I mean we only have to look at this very subject to see that. Why should all remain voters accept what is happening ? I didn't say they should. You brought up the fact that some people will never accept change. You want people to accept change unless it doesn't suit? That a very insular viewpoint No I don’t, you can’t please everyone. If we want to rejoin the EU we need to follow what Farage and his ‘partys’ did , create division, obstruct, moan etc etc Good luck with that, meanwhile i shall be enjoying my life free from the eu.
How was your life whilst we were in the EU? "My life has always been good thanks as the saying goes life is what you make it. | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit And that was their biggest mistake, but let’s behonest, there were people (Farage) that would never have accepted any changes and works have pushed to leave anyway Just as there are people in all walks of life who never accept things. I mean we only have to look at this very subject to see that. Why should all remain voters accept what is happening ? I didn't say they should. You brought up the fact that some people will never accept change. You want people to accept change unless it doesn't suit? That a very insular viewpoint No I don’t, you can’t please everyone. If we want to rejoin the EU we need to follow what Farage and his ‘partys’ did , create division, obstruct, moan etc etc Good luck with that, meanwhile i shall be enjoying my life free from the eu.
How was your life whilst we were in the EU? My life has always been good thanks as the saying goes life is what you make it. "That’s good, thank goodness being in the EU hasn’t cause you any problems | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit And that was their biggest mistake, but let’s behonest, there were people (Farage) that would never have accepted any changes and works have pushed to leave anyway Just as there are people in all walks of life who never accept things. I mean we only have to look at this very subject to see that. Why should all remain voters accept what is happening ? I didn't say they should. You brought up the fact that some people will never accept change. You want people to accept change unless it doesn't suit? That a very insular viewpoint No I don’t, you can’t please everyone. If we want to rejoin the EU we need to follow what Farage and his ‘partys’ did , create division, obstruct, moan etc etc Well we have 40 years of that to look forward to. As long as you can rest in peace knowing you've bitched about Britain for the rest of your days, you'll be good
Like Farage and his supporters did? Moaned, obstructed, demonised immigrants etc it’s a shitty tactic but it worked
I'm very surprised that you seem to hold Farage in such high regard that you want to emulate him
He is a cunt, but he helped get Brexit, being a lying racist cunt gets results, apparently
Did you see him get pranked? "Again? Is this a new or old prank? I know he is now selling personal messages on some site, | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit And that was their biggest mistake, but let’s behonest, there were people (Farage) that would never have accepted any changes and works have pushed to leave anyway Just as there are people in all walks of life who never accept things. I mean we only have to look at this very subject to see that. Why should all remain voters accept what is happening ? I didn't say they should. You brought up the fact that some people will never accept change. You want people to accept change unless it doesn't suit? That a very insular viewpoint No I don’t, you can’t please everyone. If we want to rejoin the EU we need to follow what Farage and his ‘partys’ did , create division, obstruct, moan etc etc Good luck with that, meanwhile i shall be enjoying my life free from the eu.
In what ways did the EU curtail your freedom?
Who said they did ?
You implied it when you said "meanwhile i shall be enjoying my life free from the eu".
Surely this wasn't just meaningless rhetoric!?! You have never heard of that phrase? it implies no such thing only your interpretation of it. For instance it could mean free from having to pay into it anymore or free from the rules they impose. I consider myself free from the self elected elite of brussels now and im enjoying it."Fair play to you. Shame you had to drag the whole country down just to feel good about yourself though. If only there had been an easier way. | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit And that was their biggest mistake, but let’s behonest, there were people (Farage) that would never have accepted any changes and works have pushed to leave anyway Just as there are people in all walks of life who never accept things. I mean we only have to look at this very subject to see that. Why should all remain voters accept what is happening ? I didn't say they should. You brought up the fact that some people will never accept change. You want people to accept change unless it doesn't suit? That a very insular viewpoint No I don’t, you can’t please everyone. If we want to rejoin the EU we need to follow what Farage and his ‘partys’ did , create division, obstruct, moan etc etc Well we have 40 years of that to look forward to. As long as you can rest in peace knowing you've bitched about Britain for the rest of your days, you'll be good
Like Farage and his supporters did? Moaned, obstructed, demonised immigrants etc it’s a shitty tactic but it worked
I'm very surprised that you seem to hold Farage in such high regard that you want to emulate him
He is a cunt, but he helped get Brexit, being a lying racist cunt gets results, apparently
Did you see him get pranked?
Again? Is this a new or old prank? I know he is now selling personal messages on some site, "Yeah he is resorting to sending birthday messages out and he did one for a hugh jass | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit And that was their biggest mistake, but let’s behonest, there were people (Farage) that would never have accepted any changes and works have pushed to leave anyway Just as there are people in all walks of life who never accept things. I mean we only have to look at this very subject to see that. Why should all remain voters accept what is happening ? I didn't say they should. You brought up the fact that some people will never accept change. You want people to accept change unless it doesn't suit? That a very insular viewpoint No I don’t, you can’t please everyone. If we want to rejoin the EU we need to follow what Farage and his ‘partys’ did , create division, obstruct, moan etc etc Well we have 40 years of that to look forward to. As long as you can rest in peace knowing you've bitched about Britain for the rest of your days, you'll be good
Like Farage and his supporters did? Moaned, obstructed, demonised immigrants etc it’s a shitty tactic but it worked
I'm very surprised that you seem to hold Farage in such high regard that you want to emulate him
He is a cunt, but he helped get Brexit, being a lying racist cunt gets results, apparently
Did you see him get pranked?
Again? Is this a new or old prank? I know he is now selling personal messages on some site,
Yeah he is resorting to sending birthday messages out and he did one for a hugh jass "Ha, what bell end, imagine being one of the idiots who fell for his lies | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit And that was their biggest mistake, but let’s behonest, there were people (Farage) that would never have accepted any changes and works have pushed to leave anyway Just as there are people in all walks of life who never accept things. I mean we only have to look at this very subject to see that. Why should all remain voters accept what is happening ? I didn't say they should. You brought up the fact that some people will never accept change. You want people to accept change unless it doesn't suit? That a very insular viewpoint No I don’t, you can’t please everyone. If we want to rejoin the EU we need to follow what Farage and his ‘partys’ did , create division, obstruct, moan etc etc Well we have 40 years of that to look forward to. As long as you can rest in peace knowing you've bitched about Britain for the rest of your days, you'll be good
Like Farage and his supporters did? Moaned, obstructed, demonised immigrants etc it’s a shitty tactic but it worked
I'm very surprised that you seem to hold Farage in such high regard that you want to emulate him
He is a cunt, but he helped get Brexit, being a lying racist cunt gets results, apparently
Did you see him get pranked?
Again? Is this a new or old prank? I know he is now selling personal messages on some site,
Yeah he is resorting to sending birthday messages out and he did one for a hugh jass
Ha, what bell end, imagine being one of the idiots who fell for his lies "Here we go... Woke opinion is that Brexit voters are thick... | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit And that was their biggest mistake, but let’s behonest, there were people (Farage) that would never have accepted any changes and works have pushed to leave anyway Just as there are people in all walks of life who never accept things. I mean we only have to look at this very subject to see that. Why should all remain voters accept what is happening ? I didn't say they should. You brought up the fact that some people will never accept change. You want people to accept change unless it doesn't suit? That a very insular viewpoint No I don’t, you can’t please everyone. If we want to rejoin the EU we need to follow what Farage and his ‘partys’ did , create division, obstruct, moan etc etc Well we have 40 years of that to look forward to. As long as you can rest in peace knowing you've bitched about Britain for the rest of your days, you'll be good
Like Farage and his supporters did? Moaned, obstructed, demonised immigrants etc it’s a shitty tactic but it worked
I'm very surprised that you seem to hold Farage in such high regard that you want to emulate him
He is a cunt, but he helped get Brexit, being a lying racist cunt gets results, apparently
Did you see him get pranked?
Again? Is this a new or old prank? I know he is now selling personal messages on some site,
Yeah he is resorting to sending birthday messages out and he did one for a hugh jass
Ha, what bell end, imagine being one of the idiots who fell for his lies
Here we go... Woke opinion is that Brexit voters are thick... "What is ‘woke opinion ‘ ? Did you believe Farage? | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit And that was their biggest mistake, but let’s behonest, there were people (Farage) that would never have accepted any changes and works have pushed to leave anyway Just as there are people in all walks of life who never accept things. I mean we only have to look at this very subject to see that. Why should all remain voters accept what is happening ? I didn't say they should. You brought up the fact that some people will never accept change. You want people to accept change unless it doesn't suit? That a very insular viewpoint No I don’t, you can’t please everyone. If we want to rejoin the EU we need to follow what Farage and his ‘partys’ did , create division, obstruct, moan etc etc Well we have 40 years of that to look forward to. As long as you can rest in peace knowing you've bitched about Britain for the rest of your days, you'll be good
Like Farage and his supporters did? Moaned, obstructed, demonised immigrants etc it’s a shitty tactic but it worked
I'm very surprised that you seem to hold Farage in such high regard that you want to emulate him
He is a cunt, but he helped get Brexit, being a lying racist cunt gets results, apparently
Did you see him get pranked?
Again? Is this a new or old prank? I know he is now selling personal messages on some site,
Yeah he is resorting to sending birthday messages out and he did one for a hugh jass
Ha, what bell end, imagine being one of the idiots who fell for his lies
Here we go... Woke opinion is that Brexit voters are thick... "Non-racists think brexit voters are thick?!? This place gets weirder and weirder. | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit And that was their biggest mistake, but let’s behonest, there were people (Farage) that would never have accepted any changes and works have pushed to leave anyway Just as there are people in all walks of life who never accept things. I mean we only have to look at this very subject to see that. Why should all remain voters accept what is happening ? I didn't say they should. You brought up the fact that some people will never accept change. You want people to accept change unless it doesn't suit? That a very insular viewpoint No I don’t, you can’t please everyone. If we want to rejoin the EU we need to follow what Farage and his ‘partys’ did , create division, obstruct, moan etc etc Well we have 40 years of that to look forward to. As long as you can rest in peace knowing you've bitched about Britain for the rest of your days, you'll be good
Like Farage and his supporters did? Moaned, obstructed, demonised immigrants etc it’s a shitty tactic but it worked
I'm very surprised that you seem to hold Farage in such high regard that you want to emulate him
He is a cunt, but he helped get Brexit, being a lying racist cunt gets results, apparently
Did you see him get pranked?
Again? Is this a new or old prank? I know he is now selling personal messages on some site,
Yeah he is resorting to sending birthday messages out and he did one for a hugh jass
Ha, what bell end, imagine being one of the idiots who fell for his lies
Here we go... Woke opinion is that Brexit voters are thick...
Non-racists think brexit voters are thick?!?
This place gets weirder and weirder."Apparently | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit And that was their biggest mistake, but let’s behonest, there were people (Farage) that would never have accepted any changes and works have pushed to leave anyway Just as there are people in all walks of life who never accept things. I mean we only have to look at this very subject to see that. Why should all remain voters accept what is happening ? I didn't say they should. You brought up the fact that some people will never accept change. You want people to accept change unless it doesn't suit? That a very insular viewpoint No I don’t, you can’t please everyone. If we want to rejoin the EU we need to follow what Farage and his ‘partys’ did , create division, obstruct, moan etc etc Well we have 40 years of that to look forward to. As long as you can rest in peace knowing you've bitched about Britain for the rest of your days, you'll be good
Like Farage and his supporters did? Moaned, obstructed, demonised immigrants etc it’s a shitty tactic but it worked
I'm very surprised that you seem to hold Farage in such high regard that you want to emulate him
He is a cunt, but he helped get Brexit, being a lying racist cunt gets results, apparently
Did you see him get pranked?
Again? Is this a new or old prank? I know he is now selling personal messages on some site,
Yeah he is resorting to sending birthday messages out and he did one for a hugh jass
Ha, what bell end, imagine being one of the idiots who fell for his lies
Here we go... Woke opinion is that Brexit voters are thick...
What is ‘woke opinion ‘ ? Did you believe Farage? "Nope, I don't "believe" anyone, including you. I talk to top people and use verified independent facts to form my opinions. You get yours off the back of a cereal packet. | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit And that was their biggest mistake, but let’s behonest, there were people (Farage) that would never have accepted any changes and works have pushed to leave anyway Just as there are people in all walks of life who never accept things. I mean we only have to look at this very subject to see that. Why should all remain voters accept what is happening ? I didn't say they should. You brought up the fact that some people will never accept change. You want people to accept change unless it doesn't suit? That a very insular viewpoint No I don’t, you can’t please everyone. If we want to rejoin the EU we need to follow what Farage and his ‘partys’ did , create division, obstruct, moan etc etc Well we have 40 years of that to look forward to. As long as you can rest in peace knowing you've bitched about Britain for the rest of your days, you'll be good
Like Farage and his supporters did? Moaned, obstructed, demonised immigrants etc it’s a shitty tactic but it worked
I'm very surprised that you seem to hold Farage in such high regard that you want to emulate him
He is a cunt, but he helped get Brexit, being a lying racist cunt gets results, apparently
Did you see him get pranked?
Again? Is this a new or old prank? I know he is now selling personal messages on some site,
Yeah he is resorting to sending birthday messages out and he did one for a hugh jass
Ha, what bell end, imagine being one of the idiots who fell for his lies
Here we go... Woke opinion is that Brexit voters are thick...
What is ‘woke opinion ‘ ? Did you believe Farage?
Nope, I don't "believe" anyone, including you.
I talk to top people and use verified independent facts to form my opinions.
You get yours off the back of a cereal packet. "How come you don't listen to any of these "top people"? | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) | |||
"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit And that was their biggest mistake, but let’s behonest, there were people (Farage) that would never have accepted any changes and works have pushed to leave anyway Just as there are people in all walks of life who never accept things. I mean we only have to look at this very subject to see that. Why should all remain voters accept what is happening ? I didn't say they should. You brought up the fact that some people will never accept change. You want people to accept change unless it doesn't suit? That a very insular viewpoint No I don’t, you can’t please everyone. If we want to rejoin the EU we need to follow what Farage and his ‘partys’ did , create division, obstruct, moan etc etc Well we have 40 years of that to look forward to. As long as you can rest in peace knowing you've bitched about Britain for the rest of your days, you'll be good
Like Farage and his supporters did? Moaned, obstructed, demonised immigrants etc it’s a shitty tactic but it worked
I'm very surprised that you seem to hold Farage in such high regard that you want to emulate him
He is a cunt, but he helped get Brexit, being a lying racist cunt gets results, apparently
Did you see him get pranked?
Again? Is this a new or old prank? I know he is now selling personal messages on some site,
Yeah he is resorting to sending birthday messages out and he did one for a hugh jass
Ha, what bell end, imagine being one of the idiots who fell for his lies
Here we go... Woke opinion is that Brexit voters are thick...
What is ‘woke opinion ‘ ? Did you believe Farage?
Nope, I don't "believe" anyone, including you.
I talk to top people and use verified independent facts to form my opinions.
You get yours off the back of a cereal packet.
How come you don't listen to any of these "top people"?
"Top... People.... Not run of the mill gob on a stick woke echo chamber commentators you see in the media. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) | |||
"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit And that was their biggest mistake, but let’s behonest, there were people (Farage) that would never have accepted any changes and works have pushed to leave anyway Just as there are people in all walks of life who never accept things. I mean we only have to look at this very subject to see that. Why should all remain voters accept what is happening ? I didn't say they should. You brought up the fact that some people will never accept change. You want people to accept change unless it doesn't suit? That a very insular viewpoint No I don’t, you can’t please everyone. If we want to rejoin the EU we need to follow what Farage and his ‘partys’ did , create division, obstruct, moan etc etc Well we have 40 years of that to look forward to. As long as you can rest in peace knowing you've bitched about Britain for the rest of your days, you'll be good
Like Farage and his supporters did? Moaned, obstructed, demonised immigrants etc it’s a shitty tactic but it worked
I'm very surprised that you seem to hold Farage in such high regard that you want to emulate him
He is a cunt, but he helped get Brexit, being a lying racist cunt gets results, apparently
Did you see him get pranked?
Again? Is this a new or old prank? I know he is now selling personal messages on some site,
Yeah he is resorting to sending birthday messages out and he did one for a hugh jass
Ha, what bell end, imagine being one of the idiots who fell for his lies
Here we go... Woke opinion is that Brexit voters are thick...
What is ‘woke opinion ‘ ? Did you believe Farage?
Nope, I don't "believe" anyone, including you.
I talk to top people and use verified independent facts to form my opinions.
You get yours off the back of a cereal packet.
How come you don't listen to any of these "top people"?
Top... People....
Not run of the mill gob on a stick woke echo chamber commentators you see in the media. "Are these "top people" as terrified of non-racists as you? What's their reasoning for this seemingly irrational fear. A phobia if you will. | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit And that was their biggest mistake, but let’s behonest, there were people (Farage) that would never have accepted any changes and works have pushed to leave anyway Just as there are people in all walks of life who never accept things. I mean we only have to look at this very subject to see that. Why should all remain voters accept what is happening ? I didn't say they should. You brought up the fact that some people will never accept change. You want people to accept change unless it doesn't suit? That a very insular viewpoint No I don’t, you can’t please everyone. If we want to rejoin the EU we need to follow what Farage and his ‘partys’ did , create division, obstruct, moan etc etc Well we have 40 years of that to look forward to. As long as you can rest in peace knowing you've bitched about Britain for the rest of your days, you'll be good
Like Farage and his supporters did? Moaned, obstructed, demonised immigrants etc it’s a shitty tactic but it worked
I'm very surprised that you seem to hold Farage in such high regard that you want to emulate him
He is a cunt, but he helped get Brexit, being a lying racist cunt gets results, apparently
Did you see him get pranked?
Again? Is this a new or old prank? I know he is now selling personal messages on some site,
Yeah he is resorting to sending birthday messages out and he did one for a hugh jass
Ha, what bell end, imagine being one of the idiots who fell for his lies
Here we go... Woke opinion is that Brexit voters are thick...
What is ‘woke opinion ‘ ? Did you believe Farage?
Nope, I don't "believe" anyone, including you.
I talk to top people and use verified independent facts to form my opinions.
You get yours off the back of a cereal packet.
How come you don't listen to any of these "top people"?
Top... People....
Not run of the mill gob on a stick woke echo chamber commentators you see in the media.
Are these "top people" as terrified of non-racists as you? What's their reasoning for this seemingly irrational fear. A phobia if you will.
"Who's terrified? Despair. That's a good word. An appropriate word. I despair at the virtue signalling. | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit And that was their biggest mistake, but let’s behonest, there were people (Farage) that would never have accepted any changes and works have pushed to leave anyway Just as there are people in all walks of life who never accept things. I mean we only have to look at this very subject to see that. Why should all remain voters accept what is happening ? I didn't say they should. You brought up the fact that some people will never accept change. You want people to accept change unless it doesn't suit? That a very insular viewpoint No I don’t, you can’t please everyone. If we want to rejoin the EU we need to follow what Farage and his ‘partys’ did , create division, obstruct, moan etc etc Well we have 40 years of that to look forward to. As long as you can rest in peace knowing you've bitched about Britain for the rest of your days, you'll be good
Like Farage and his supporters did? Moaned, obstructed, demonised immigrants etc it’s a shitty tactic but it worked
I'm very surprised that you seem to hold Farage in such high regard that you want to emulate him
He is a cunt, but he helped get Brexit, being a lying racist cunt gets results, apparently
Did you see him get pranked?
Again? Is this a new or old prank? I know he is now selling personal messages on some site,
Yeah he is resorting to sending birthday messages out and he did one for a hugh jass
Ha, what bell end, imagine being one of the idiots who fell for his lies
Here we go... Woke opinion is that Brexit voters are thick...
What is ‘woke opinion ‘ ? Did you believe Farage?
Nope, I don't "believe" anyone, including you.
I talk to top people and use verified independent facts to form my opinions.
You get yours off the back of a cereal packet. "What is this ‘woke opinion’ that you speak off? | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit And that was their biggest mistake, but let’s behonest, there were people (Farage) that would never have accepted any changes and works have pushed to leave anyway Just as there are people in all walks of life who never accept things. I mean we only have to look at this very subject to see that. Why should all remain voters accept what is happening ? I didn't say they should. You brought up the fact that some people will never accept change. You want people to accept change unless it doesn't suit? That a very insular viewpoint No I don’t, you can’t please everyone. If we want to rejoin the EU we need to follow what Farage and his ‘partys’ did , create division, obstruct, moan etc etc Well we have 40 years of that to look forward to. As long as you can rest in peace knowing you've bitched about Britain for the rest of your days, you'll be good
Like Farage and his supporters did? Moaned, obstructed, demonised immigrants etc it’s a shitty tactic but it worked
I'm very surprised that you seem to hold Farage in such high regard that you want to emulate him
He is a cunt, but he helped get Brexit, being a lying racist cunt gets results, apparently
Did you see him get pranked?
Again? Is this a new or old prank? I know he is now selling personal messages on some site,
Yeah he is resorting to sending birthday messages out and he did one for a hugh jass
Ha, what bell end, imagine being one of the idiots who fell for his lies
Here we go... Woke opinion is that Brexit voters are thick...
What is ‘woke opinion ‘ ? Did you believe Farage?
Nope, I don't "believe" anyone, including you.
I talk to top people and use verified independent facts to form my opinions.
You get yours off the back of a cereal packet.
How come you don't listen to any of these "top people"?
Top... People....
Not run of the mill gob on a stick woke echo chamber commentators you see in the media.
Are these "top people" as terrified of non-racists as you? What's their reasoning for this seemingly irrational fear. A phobia if you will.
Who's terrified?
Despair. That's a good word. An appropriate word. I despair at the virtue signalling. "I assumed you are terrified. You start a lot of threads blaming non-racists for all kinds of bizarre things. You seem to have a real genuine phobia of people who aren't racist, it crops up in nearly every thread you post in. | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit And that was their biggest mistake, but let’s behonest, there were people (Farage) that would never have accepted any changes and works have pushed to leave anyway Just as there are people in all walks of life who never accept things. I mean we only have to look at this very subject to see that. Why should all remain voters accept what is happening ? I didn't say they should. You brought up the fact that some people will never accept change. You want people to accept change unless it doesn't suit? That a very insular viewpoint No I don’t, you can’t please everyone. If we want to rejoin the EU we need to follow what Farage and his ‘partys’ did , create division, obstruct, moan etc etc Well we have 40 years of that to look forward to. As long as you can rest in peace knowing you've bitched about Britain for the rest of your days, you'll be good
Like Farage and his supporters did? Moaned, obstructed, demonised immigrants etc it’s a shitty tactic but it worked
I'm very surprised that you seem to hold Farage in such high regard that you want to emulate him
He is a cunt, but he helped get Brexit, being a lying racist cunt gets results, apparently
Did you see him get pranked?
Again? Is this a new or old prank? I know he is now selling personal messages on some site,
Yeah he is resorting to sending birthday messages out and he did one for a hugh jass
Ha, what bell end, imagine being one of the idiots who fell for his lies
Here we go... Woke opinion is that Brexit voters are thick...
What is ‘woke opinion ‘ ? Did you believe Farage?
Nope, I don't "believe" anyone, including you.
I talk to top people and use verified independent facts to form my opinions.
You get yours off the back of a cereal packet.
How come you don't listen to any of these "top people"?
Top... People....
Not run of the mill gob on a stick woke echo chamber commentators you see in the media.
Are these "top people" as terrified of non-racists as you? What's their reasoning for this seemingly irrational fear. A phobia if you will.
Who's terrified?
Despair. That's a good word. An appropriate word. I despair at the virtue signalling.
I assumed you are terrified. You start a lot of threads blaming non-racists for all kinds of bizarre things.
You seem to have a real genuine phobia of people who aren't racist, it crops up in nearly every thread you post in."I am hoping it’s down to confusion rather than something more sinister | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit And that was their biggest mistake, but let’s behonest, there were people (Farage) that would never have accepted any changes and works have pushed to leave anyway Just as there are people in all walks of life who never accept things. I mean we only have to look at this very subject to see that. Why should all remain voters accept what is happening ? I didn't say they should. You brought up the fact that some people will never accept change. You want people to accept change unless it doesn't suit? That a very insular viewpoint No I don’t, you can’t please everyone. If we want to rejoin the EU we need to follow what Farage and his ‘partys’ did , create division, obstruct, moan etc etc Well we have 40 years of that to look forward to. As long as you can rest in peace knowing you've bitched about Britain for the rest of your days, you'll be good
Like Farage and his supporters did? Moaned, obstructed, demonised immigrants etc it’s a shitty tactic but it worked
I'm very surprised that you seem to hold Farage in such high regard that you want to emulate him
He is a cunt, but he helped get Brexit, being a lying racist cunt gets results, apparently
Did you see him get pranked?
Again? Is this a new or old prank? I know he is now selling personal messages on some site,
Yeah he is resorting to sending birthday messages out and he did one for a hugh jass
Ha, what bell end, imagine being one of the idiots who fell for his lies
Here we go... Woke opinion is that Brexit voters are thick...
What is ‘woke opinion ‘ ? Did you believe Farage?
Nope, I don't "believe" anyone, including you.
I talk to top people and use verified independent facts to form my opinions.
You get yours off the back of a cereal packet.
How come you don't listen to any of these "top people"?
Top... People....
Not run of the mill gob on a stick woke echo chamber commentators you see in the media.
Are these "top people" as terrified of non-racists as you? What's their reasoning for this seemingly irrational fear. A phobia if you will.
Who's terrified?
Despair. That's a good word. An appropriate word. I despair at the virtue signalling.
I assumed you are terrified. You start a lot of threads blaming non-racists for all kinds of bizarre things.
You seem to have a real genuine phobia of people who aren't racist, it crops up in nearly every thread you post in.
I am hoping it’s down to confusion rather than something more sinister "Or that it's all an act. | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit And that was their biggest mistake, but let’s behonest, there were people (Farage) that would never have accepted any changes and works have pushed to leave anyway Just as there are people in all walks of life who never accept things. I mean we only have to look at this very subject to see that. Why should all remain voters accept what is happening ? I didn't say they should. You brought up the fact that some people will never accept change. You want people to accept change unless it doesn't suit? That a very insular viewpoint No I don’t, you can’t please everyone. If we want to rejoin the EU we need to follow what Farage and his ‘partys’ did , create division, obstruct, moan etc etc Well we have 40 years of that to look forward to. As long as you can rest in peace knowing you've bitched about Britain for the rest of your days, you'll be good
Like Farage and his supporters did? Moaned, obstructed, demonised immigrants etc it’s a shitty tactic but it worked
I'm very surprised that you seem to hold Farage in such high regard that you want to emulate him
He is a cunt, but he helped get Brexit, being a lying racist cunt gets results, apparently
Did you see him get pranked?
Again? Is this a new or old prank? I know he is now selling personal messages on some site,
Yeah he is resorting to sending birthday messages out and he did one for a hugh jass
Ha, what bell end, imagine being one of the idiots who fell for his lies
Here we go... Woke opinion is that Brexit voters are thick...
What is ‘woke opinion ‘ ? Did you believe Farage?
Nope, I don't "believe" anyone, including you.
I talk to top people and use verified independent facts to form my opinions.
You get yours off the back of a cereal packet.
How come you don't listen to any of these "top people"?
Top... People....
Not run of the mill gob on a stick woke echo chamber commentators you see in the media.
Are these "top people" as terrified of non-racists as you? What's their reasoning for this seemingly irrational fear. A phobia if you will.
Who's terrified?
Despair. That's a good word. An appropriate word. I despair at the virtue signalling.
I assumed you are terrified. You start a lot of threads blaming non-racists for all kinds of bizarre things.
You seem to have a real genuine phobia of people who aren't racist, it crops up in nearly every thread you post in.
I am hoping it’s down to confusion rather than something more sinister
Or that it's all an act."Are churches woke? C of E? Could they, should they, do more to be woke? | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit And that was their biggest mistake, but let’s behonest, there were people (Farage) that would never have accepted any changes and works have pushed to leave anyway Just as there are people in all walks of life who never accept things. I mean we only have to look at this very subject to see that. Why should all remain voters accept what is happening ? I didn't say they should. You brought up the fact that some people will never accept change. You want people to accept change unless it doesn't suit? That a very insular viewpoint No I don’t, you can’t please everyone. If we want to rejoin the EU we need to follow what Farage and his ‘partys’ did , create division, obstruct, moan etc etc Well we have 40 years of that to look forward to. As long as you can rest in peace knowing you've bitched about Britain for the rest of your days, you'll be good
Like Farage and his supporters did? Moaned, obstructed, demonised immigrants etc it’s a shitty tactic but it worked
I'm very surprised that you seem to hold Farage in such high regard that you want to emulate him
He is a cunt, but he helped get Brexit, being a lying racist cunt gets results, apparently
Did you see him get pranked?
Again? Is this a new or old prank? I know he is now selling personal messages on some site,
Yeah he is resorting to sending birthday messages out and he did one for a hugh jass
Ha, what bell end, imagine being one of the idiots who fell for his lies
Here we go... Woke opinion is that Brexit voters are thick...
What is ‘woke opinion ‘ ? Did you believe Farage?
Nope, I don't "believe" anyone, including you.
I talk to top people and use verified independent facts to form my opinions.
You get yours off the back of a cereal packet.
How come you don't listen to any of these "top people"?
Top... People....
Not run of the mill gob on a stick woke echo chamber commentators you see in the media.
Are these "top people" as terrified of non-racists as you? What's their reasoning for this seemingly irrational fear. A phobia if you will.
Who's terrified?
Despair. That's a good word. An appropriate word. I despair at the virtue signalling.
I assumed you are terrified. You start a lot of threads blaming non-racists for all kinds of bizarre things.
You seem to have a real genuine phobia of people who aren't racist, it crops up in nearly every thread you post in.
I am hoping it’s down to confusion rather than something more sinister
Or that it's all an act.
Are churches woke? C of E? Could they, should they, do more to be woke?"I don't attend church services, so I can't answer this. What has this got to do with your phobia? | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. I have repeatedly so please stop saying that Chris. I do include you in that, I’ve read many times your minor paperwork complaints. Far as I can see A) you’re being kept busy, which is good. Busy is good from a job point of view B) you have a job, probably doing overtime, so you’re better off. I say again, and it’s a a repetitive point I know... no one has shown how they, personally, are worse off. And you’re better off. Riddle me that. Wow... King of Spin.
Which part is not true?
You’ve made assumptions. You don’t know if the overtime is a result of extra business or extra complications. You’ve also dismissed their concerns to paint a picture which may not be accurate. Is that not spin?
Not at all. I have consistently asked the straightforward question for anyone to show how they, personally, have been negatively affected by Brexit.
This is a very simple and precise question posed in my usual forensic fashion.
Answer there has been none. "Forensic implies precise and with intellect but I'm struggling to grasp that concept from someone who claims to use the government’s own software system to export a few pallets a year. Its like having the DVLA computer installed at home to buy a bike at Halfords. So you were making stuff up again and we’ve established that as fact!! Minor paperwork you claim? Given your proven lack of knowledge on the subject we can deduct you don’t understand the issues being discussed. Those minor paperwork issues run into seven figure costs each year for my business so across U.K. industry the figure will be billions. I’m paid a salary by the company so overtime not something of benefit to me. The company has increased costs due to customs costs and physical procedures which result in higher transport and shipping costs. . So increases across the board. Increased costs means lower margin. You following?? This reduction in margin results in lower profits. Lower profits means less jobs and less spare cash for me to take and re-invest. Maths not your strong point?? Busy is good hmmm so if I pay a guy £10 to hammer nails in at 100 nails an hour he is going to be delighted when I tell him to hammer in 200 per hour for the same rate because as you say busy is positive for his job!! Interesting economic benefit. We do more work for less money!!! I’m beginning to see a pro Brexit voter pattern here. You must start listening the those professors rather than you doing all the talking. They can maybe help strengthen your wind up posts with some facts to at least make them look slightly credible. Or maybe not, as making factually positive Brexit claims is a big ask. | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. I have repeatedly so please stop saying that Chris. I do include you in that, I’ve read many times your minor paperwork complaints. Far as I can see A) you’re being kept busy, which is good. Busy is good from a job point of view B) you have a job, probably doing overtime, so you’re better off. I say again, and it’s a a repetitive point I know... no one has shown how they, personally, are worse off. And you’re better off. Riddle me that. Wow... King of Spin.
Which part is not true?
You’ve made assumptions. You don’t know if the overtime is a result of extra business or extra complications. You’ve also dismissed their concerns to paint a picture which may not be accurate. Is that not spin?
Not at all. I have consistently asked the straightforward question for anyone to show how they, personally, have been negatively affected by Brexit.
This is a very simple and precise question posed in my usual forensic fashion.
Answer there has been none.
Forensic implies precise and with intellect but I'm struggling to grasp that concept from someone who claims to use the government’s own software system to export a few pallets a year.
Its like having the DVLA computer installed at home to buy a bike at Halfords. So you were making stuff up again and we’ve established that as fact!!
Minor paperwork you claim? Given your proven lack of knowledge on the subject we can deduct you don’t understand the issues being discussed.
Those minor paperwork issues run into seven figure costs each year for my business so across U.K. industry the figure will be billions.
I’m paid a salary by the company so overtime not something of benefit to me.
The company has increased costs due to customs costs and physical procedures which result in higher transport and shipping costs. . So increases across the board.
Increased costs means lower margin. You following??
This reduction in margin results in lower profits.
Lower profits means less jobs and less spare cash for me to take and re-invest.
Maths not your strong point??
Busy is good hmmm so if I pay a guy £10 to hammer nails in at 100 nails an hour he is going to be delighted when I tell him to hammer in 200 per hour for the same rate because as you say busy is positive for his job!! Interesting economic benefit. We do more work for less money!!! I’m beginning to see a pro Brexit voter pattern here.
You must start listening the those professors rather than you doing all the talking. They can maybe help strengthen your wind up posts with some facts to at least make them look slightly credible. Or maybe not, as making factually positive Brexit claims is a big ask.
". Maybe to keep the issue in context it would be helpfull to indicate what % age of your total costs the extra administration is. If you are moving full loads I would have thought that it is negligible or hardly noticeable. I am assuming that all your competitors incur similar costs . Most businnesses have adapted and simply moved on. You have previously indicated that you run a very successfull and profitable businness. I think you also said that you had sufficient resources to open up production facilities abroad. In this case I fail to understand your concerns about a small amount of extra paperwork. You even said that you were prepared to pay more income or corporation tax so maybe just consider the extra paperwork as helping the civil service employ more people . If you are an export business surely your biggest concern would be currency movements. Currency movements have been very favourable to exporters in recent years . | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. I have repeatedly so please stop saying that Chris. I do include you in that, I’ve read many times your minor paperwork complaints. Far as I can see A) you’re being kept busy, which is good. Busy is good from a job point of view B) you have a job, probably doing overtime, so you’re better off. I say again, and it’s a a repetitive point I know... no one has shown how they, personally, are worse off. And you’re better off. Riddle me that. Wow... King of Spin.
Which part is not true?
You’ve made assumptions. You don’t know if the overtime is a result of extra business or extra complications. You’ve also dismissed their concerns to paint a picture which may not be accurate. Is that not spin?
Not at all. I have consistently asked the straightforward question for anyone to show how they, personally, have been negatively affected by Brexit.
This is a very simple and precise question posed in my usual forensic fashion.
Answer there has been none.
Forensic implies precise and with intellect but I'm struggling to grasp that concept from someone who claims to use the government’s own software system to export a few pallets a year.
Its like having the DVLA computer installed at home to buy a bike at Halfords. So you were making stuff up again and we’ve established that as fact!!
Minor paperwork you claim? Given your proven lack of knowledge on the subject we can deduct you don’t understand the issues being discussed.
Those minor paperwork issues run into seven figure costs each year for my business so across U.K. industry the figure will be billions.
I’m paid a salary by the company so overtime not something of benefit to me.
The company has increased costs due to customs costs and physical procedures which result in higher transport and shipping costs. . So increases across the board.
Increased costs means lower margin. You following??
This reduction in margin results in lower profits.
Lower profits means less jobs and less spare cash for me to take and re-invest.
Maths not your strong point??
Busy is good hmmm so if I pay a guy £10 to hammer nails in at 100 nails an hour he is going to be delighted when I tell him to hammer in 200 per hour for the same rate because as you say busy is positive for his job!! Interesting economic benefit. We do more work for less money!!! I’m beginning to see a pro Brexit voter pattern here.
You must start listening the those professors rather than you doing all the talking. They can maybe help strengthen your wind up posts with some facts to at least make them look slightly credible. Or maybe not, as making factually positive Brexit claims is a big ask.
. Maybe to keep the issue in context it would be helpfull to indicate what % age of your total costs the extra administration is. If you are moving full loads I would have thought that it is negligible or hardly noticeable. I am assuming that all your competitors incur similar costs .
Most businnesses have adapted and simply moved on.
You have previously indicated that you run a very successfull and profitable businness. I think you also said that you had sufficient resources to open up production facilities abroad. In this case I fail to understand your concerns about a small amount of extra paperwork. You even said that you were prepared to pay more income or corporation tax so maybe just consider the extra paperwork as helping the civil service employ more people .
If you are an export business surely your biggest concern would be currency movements. Currency movements have been very favourable to exporters in recent years .
"What he said^^^^^ | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. I have repeatedly so please stop saying that Chris. I do include you in that, I’ve read many times your minor paperwork complaints. Far as I can see A) you’re being kept busy, which is good. Busy is good from a job point of view B) you have a job, probably doing overtime, so you’re better off. I say again, and it’s a a repetitive point I know... no one has shown how they, personally, are worse off. And you’re better off. Riddle me that. Wow... King of Spin.
Which part is not true?
You’ve made assumptions. You don’t know if the overtime is a result of extra business or extra complications. You’ve also dismissed their concerns to paint a picture which may not be accurate. Is that not spin?
Not at all. I have consistently asked the straightforward question for anyone to show how they, personally, have been negatively affected by Brexit.
This is a very simple and precise question posed in my usual forensic fashion.
Answer there has been none.
Forensic implies precise and with intellect but I'm struggling to grasp that concept from someone who claims to use the government’s own software system to export a few pallets a year.
Its like having the DVLA computer installed at home to buy a bike at Halfords. So you were making stuff up again and we’ve established that as fact!!
Minor paperwork you claim? Given your proven lack of knowledge on the subject we can deduct you don’t understand the issues being discussed.
Those minor paperwork issues run into seven figure costs each year for my business so across U.K. industry the figure will be billions.
I’m paid a salary by the company so overtime not something of benefit to me.
The company has increased costs due to customs costs and physical procedures which result in higher transport and shipping costs. . So increases across the board.
Increased costs means lower margin. You following??
This reduction in margin results in lower profits.
Lower profits means less jobs and less spare cash for me to take and re-invest.
Maths not your strong point??
Busy is good hmmm so if I pay a guy £10 to hammer nails in at 100 nails an hour he is going to be delighted when I tell him to hammer in 200 per hour for the same rate because as you say busy is positive for his job!! Interesting economic benefit. We do more work for less money!!! I’m beginning to see a pro Brexit voter pattern here.
You must start listening the those professors rather than you doing all the talking. They can maybe help strengthen your wind up posts with some facts to at least make them look slightly credible. Or maybe not, as making factually positive Brexit claims is a big ask.
. Maybe to keep the issue in context it would be helpfull to indicate what % age of your total costs the extra administration is. If you are moving full loads I would have thought that it is negligible or hardly noticeable. I am assuming that all your competitors incur similar costs .
Most businnesses have adapted and simply moved on.
You have previously indicated that you run a very successfull and profitable businness. I think you also said that you had sufficient resources to open up production facilities abroad. In this case I fail to understand your concerns about a small amount of extra paperwork. You even said that you were prepared to pay more income or corporation tax so maybe just consider the extra paperwork as helping the civil service employ more people .
If you are an export business surely your biggest concern would be currency movements. Currency movements have been very favourable to exporters in recent years .
"You should do far more homework on transport costs as you are blatantly ignorant of the increases. Unilever are paying upwards or €2-300 per truck and their buying power is far greater than mine. The figure we are paying is in excess of 7 figures do you know how many people I could employ on a average wage for that?? That is a loss to the U.K. economy as most of those costs are paid to European based business not the civil service. My European competitors have no additional costs. If we were like a lot of companies solely U.K. based then we would risk losing market share. My argument is we are taking a financial hit. It’s a loss of margin . Do you understand that concept?. I’ll try to explain. If I had an ice cream van and my council licence price was put up my wages would be less. If the ice cream van next door didn’t have those additional licence costs he can either sell at the same price and keep his profits or drop his prices and increase his sales at my expense. Because we trade globally we have a currency trading operation which we make profits on. So currency of no major concern. We make money on Sterling against the euro which is why major traders make millions and you lose every time you go on holiday. Thee tax I’m paying in the U.K. will now be drastically reduced due to our trading becoming European centric. We have no choice due to vat rules and to avoid the 25% corporation rate to be introduced. I’m not paying that as it will cost yet more jobs to support a government who fail to claim tax off their donors and friends . | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. I have repeatedly so please stop saying that Chris. I do include you in that, I’ve read many times your minor paperwork complaints. Far as I can see A) you’re being kept busy, which is good. Busy is good from a job point of view B) you have a job, probably doing overtime, so you’re better off. I say again, and it’s a a repetitive point I know... no one has shown how they, personally, are worse off. And you’re better off. Riddle me that. Wow... King of Spin.
Which part is not true?
You’ve made assumptions. You don’t know if the overtime is a result of extra business or extra complications. You’ve also dismissed their concerns to paint a picture which may not be accurate. Is that not spin?
Not at all. I have consistently asked the straightforward question for anyone to show how they, personally, have been negatively affected by Brexit.
This is a very simple and precise question posed in my usual forensic fashion.
Answer there has been none.
Forensic implies precise and with intellect but I'm struggling to grasp that concept from someone who claims to use the government’s own software system to export a few pallets a year.
Its like having the DVLA computer installed at home to buy a bike at Halfords. So you were making stuff up again and we’ve established that as fact!!
Minor paperwork you claim? Given your proven lack of knowledge on the subject we can deduct you don’t understand the issues being discussed.
Those minor paperwork issues run into seven figure costs each year for my business so across U.K. industry the figure will be billions.
I’m paid a salary by the company so overtime not something of benefit to me.
The company has increased costs due to customs costs and physical procedures which result in higher transport and shipping costs. . So increases across the board.
Increased costs means lower margin. You following??
This reduction in margin results in lower profits.
Lower profits means less jobs and less spare cash for me to take and re-invest.
Maths not your strong point??
Busy is good hmmm so if I pay a guy £10 to hammer nails in at 100 nails an hour he is going to be delighted when I tell him to hammer in 200 per hour for the same rate because as you say busy is positive for his job!! Interesting economic benefit. We do more work for less money!!! I’m beginning to see a pro Brexit voter pattern here.
You must start listening the those professors rather than you doing all the talking. They can maybe help strengthen your wind up posts with some facts to at least make them look slightly credible. Or maybe not, as making factually positive Brexit claims is a big ask.
. Maybe to keep the issue in context it would be helpfull to indicate what % age of your total costs the extra administration is. If you are moving full loads I would have thought that it is negligible or hardly noticeable. I am assuming that all your competitors incur similar costs .
Most businnesses have adapted and simply moved on.
You have previously indicated that you run a very successfull and profitable businness. I think you also said that you had sufficient resources to open up production facilities abroad. In this case I fail to understand your concerns about a small amount of extra paperwork. You even said that you were prepared to pay more income or corporation tax so maybe just consider the extra paperwork as helping the civil service employ more people .
If you are an export business surely your biggest concern would be currency movements. Currency movements have been very favourable to exporters in recent years .
What he said^^^^^"Answered him and your inability to respond with a valid argument exposes your complete ignorance of the issues facing business and leads me to believe you are a a Brexit supporter who has no concept of the actual reality of the negatives involved across the U.K. Having no intelligent reply is telling. Blue passports made in Poland and cries of Empire supporting the jingoism of the tabloid press shows us your professors are the lead commentators in the said tabloids. . Your experience is chronically limited and the embarrassing exposure of your complete lack of customs exporting knowledge has just confirmed my belief that you are full of drivel! | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. I have repeatedly so please stop saying that Chris. I do include you in that, I’ve read many times your minor paperwork complaints. Far as I can see A) you’re being kept busy, which is good. Busy is good from a job point of view B) you have a job, probably doing overtime, so you’re better off. I say again, and it’s a a repetitive point I know... no one has shown how they, personally, are worse off. And you’re better off. Riddle me that. Wow... King of Spin.
Which part is not true?
You’ve made assumptions. You don’t know if the overtime is a result of extra business or extra complications. You’ve also dismissed their concerns to paint a picture which may not be accurate. Is that not spin?
Not at all. I have consistently asked the straightforward question for anyone to show how they, personally, have been negatively affected by Brexit.
This is a very simple and precise question posed in my usual forensic fashion.
Answer there has been none.
Forensic implies precise and with intellect but I'm struggling to grasp that concept from someone who claims to use the government’s own software system to export a few pallets a year.
Its like having the DVLA computer installed at home to buy a bike at Halfords. So you were making stuff up again and we’ve established that as fact!!
Minor paperwork you claim? Given your proven lack of knowledge on the subject we can deduct you don’t understand the issues being discussed.
Those minor paperwork issues run into seven figure costs each year for my business so across U.K. industry the figure will be billions.
I’m paid a salary by the company so overtime not something of benefit to me.
The company has increased costs due to customs costs and physical procedures which result in higher transport and shipping costs. . So increases across the board.
Increased costs means lower margin. You following??
This reduction in margin results in lower profits.
Lower profits means less jobs and less spare cash for me to take and re-invest.
Maths not your strong point??
Busy is good hmmm so if I pay a guy £10 to hammer nails in at 100 nails an hour he is going to be delighted when I tell him to hammer in 200 per hour for the same rate because as you say busy is positive for his job!! Interesting economic benefit. We do more work for less money!!! I’m beginning to see a pro Brexit voter pattern here.
You must start listening the those professors rather than you doing all the talking. They can maybe help strengthen your wind up posts with some facts to at least make them look slightly credible. Or maybe not, as making factually positive Brexit claims is a big ask.
. Maybe to keep the issue in context it would be helpfull to indicate what % age of your total costs the extra administration is. If you are moving full loads I would have thought that it is negligible or hardly noticeable. I am assuming that all your competitors incur similar costs .
Most businnesses have adapted and simply moved on.
You have previously indicated that you run a very successfull and profitable businness. I think you also said that you had sufficient resources to open up production facilities abroad. In this case I fail to understand your concerns about a small amount of extra paperwork. You even said that you were prepared to pay more income or corporation tax so maybe just consider the extra paperwork as helping the civil service employ more people .
If you are an export business surely your biggest concern would be currency movements. Currency movements have been very favourable to exporters in recent years .
What he said^^^^^
Answered him and your inability to respond with a valid argument exposes your complete ignorance of the issues facing business and leads me to believe you are a a Brexit supporter who has no concept of the actual reality of the negatives involved across the U.K. Having no intelligent reply is telling.
Blue passports made in Poland and cries of Empire supporting the jingoism of the tabloid press shows us your professors are the lead commentators in the said tabloids. .
Your experience is chronically limited and the embarrassing exposure of your complete lack of customs exporting knowledge has just confirmed my belief that you are full of drivel! " | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. I have repeatedly so please stop saying that Chris. I do include you in that, I’ve read many times your minor paperwork complaints. Far as I can see A) you’re being kept busy, which is good. Busy is good from a job point of view B) you have a job, probably doing overtime, so you’re better off. I say again, and it’s a a repetitive point I know... no one has shown how they, personally, are worse off. And you’re better off. Riddle me that. Wow... King of Spin.
Which part is not true?
You’ve made assumptions. You don’t know if the overtime is a result of extra business or extra complications. You’ve also dismissed their concerns to paint a picture which may not be accurate. Is that not spin?
Not at all. I have consistently asked the straightforward question for anyone to show how they, personally, have been negatively affected by Brexit.
This is a very simple and precise question posed in my usual forensic fashion.
Answer there has been none.
Forensic implies precise and with intellect but I'm struggling to grasp that concept from someone who claims to use the government’s own software system to export a few pallets a year.
Its like having the DVLA computer installed at home to buy a bike at Halfords. So you were making stuff up again and we’ve established that as fact!!
Minor paperwork you claim? Given your proven lack of knowledge on the subject we can deduct you don’t understand the issues being discussed.
Those minor paperwork issues run into seven figure costs each year for my business so across U.K. industry the figure will be billions.
I’m paid a salary by the company so overtime not something of benefit to me.
The company has increased costs due to customs costs and physical procedures which result in higher transport and shipping costs. . So increases across the board.
Increased costs means lower margin. You following??
This reduction in margin results in lower profits.
Lower profits means less jobs and less spare cash for me to take and re-invest.
Maths not your strong point??
Busy is good hmmm so if I pay a guy £10 to hammer nails in at 100 nails an hour he is going to be delighted when I tell him to hammer in 200 per hour for the same rate because as you say busy is positive for his job!! Interesting economic benefit. We do more work for less money!!! I’m beginning to see a pro Brexit voter pattern here.
You must start listening the those professors rather than you doing all the talking. They can maybe help strengthen your wind up posts with some facts to at least make them look slightly credible. Or maybe not, as making factually positive Brexit claims is a big ask.
. Maybe to keep the issue in context it would be helpfull to indicate what % age of your total costs the extra administration is. If you are moving full loads I would have thought that it is negligible or hardly noticeable. I am assuming that all your competitors incur similar costs .
Most businnesses have adapted and simply moved on.
You have previously indicated that you run a very successfull and profitable businness. I think you also said that you had sufficient resources to open up production facilities abroad. In this case I fail to understand your concerns about a small amount of extra paperwork. You even said that you were prepared to pay more income or corporation tax so maybe just consider the extra paperwork as helping the civil service employ more people .
If you are an export business surely your biggest concern would be currency movements. Currency movements have been very favourable to exporters in recent years .
What he said^^^^^
Answered him and your inability to respond with a valid argument exposes your complete ignorance of the issues facing business and leads me to believe you are a a Brexit supporter who has no concept of the actual reality of the negatives involved across the U.K. Having no intelligent reply is telling.
Blue passports made in Poland and cries of Empire supporting the jingoism of the tabloid press shows us your professors are the lead commentators in the said tabloids. .
Your experience is chronically limited and the embarrassing exposure of your complete lack of customs exporting knowledge has just confirmed my belief that you are full of drivel! "Hello. I think the issue that people are trying to identify is what your gross operating margin is and why a few extra bits of paperwork would have any material impact on it. Most companies have adapted and done so very quickly so why should yours be an exception ? | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. I have repeatedly so please stop saying that Chris. I do include you in that, I’ve read many times your minor paperwork complaints. Far as I can see A) you’re being kept busy, which is good. Busy is good from a job point of view B) you have a job, probably doing overtime, so you’re better off. I say again, and it’s a a repetitive point I know... no one has shown how they, personally, are worse off. And you’re better off. Riddle me that. Wow... King of Spin.
Which part is not true?
You’ve made assumptions. You don’t know if the overtime is a result of extra business or extra complications. You’ve also dismissed their concerns to paint a picture which may not be accurate. Is that not spin?
Not at all. I have consistently asked the straightforward question for anyone to show how they, personally, have been negatively affected by Brexit.
This is a very simple and precise question posed in my usual forensic fashion.
Answer there has been none.
Forensic implies precise and with intellect but I'm struggling to grasp that concept from someone who claims to use the government’s own software system to export a few pallets a year.
Its like having the DVLA computer installed at home to buy a bike at Halfords. So you were making stuff up again and we’ve established that as fact!!
Minor paperwork you claim? Given your proven lack of knowledge on the subject we can deduct you don’t understand the issues being discussed.
Those minor paperwork issues run into seven figure costs each year for my business so across U.K. industry the figure will be billions.
I’m paid a salary by the company so overtime not something of benefit to me.
The company has increased costs due to customs costs and physical procedures which result in higher transport and shipping costs. . So increases across the board.
Increased costs means lower margin. You following??
This reduction in margin results in lower profits.
Lower profits means less jobs and less spare cash for me to take and re-invest.
Maths not your strong point??
Busy is good hmmm so if I pay a guy £10 to hammer nails in at 100 nails an hour he is going to be delighted when I tell him to hammer in 200 per hour for the same rate because as you say busy is positive for his job!! Interesting economic benefit. We do more work for less money!!! I’m beginning to see a pro Brexit voter pattern here.
You must start listening the those professors rather than you doing all the talking. They can maybe help strengthen your wind up posts with some facts to at least make them look slightly credible. Or maybe not, as making factually positive Brexit claims is a big ask.
. Maybe to keep the issue in context it would be helpfull to indicate what % age of your total costs the extra administration is. If you are moving full loads I would have thought that it is negligible or hardly noticeable. I am assuming that all your competitors incur similar costs .
Most businnesses have adapted and simply moved on.
You have previously indicated that you run a very successfull and profitable businness. I think you also said that you had sufficient resources to open up production facilities abroad. In this case I fail to understand your concerns about a small amount of extra paperwork. You even said that you were prepared to pay more income or corporation tax so maybe just consider the extra paperwork as helping the civil service employ more people .
If you are an export business surely your biggest concern would be currency movements. Currency movements have been very favourable to exporters in recent years .
What he said^^^^^
Answered him and your inability to respond with a valid argument exposes your complete ignorance of the issues facing business and leads me to believe you are a a Brexit supporter who has no concept of the actual reality of the negatives involved across the U.K. Having no intelligent reply is telling.
Blue passports made in Poland and cries of Empire supporting the jingoism of the tabloid press shows us your professors are the lead commentators in the said tabloids. .
Your experience is chronically limited and the embarrassing exposure of your complete lack of customs exporting knowledge has just confirmed my belief that you are full of drivel! "No, I don’t need to reply when I agree with the points being made, that’s a simple debating concept from the time of Cicero. You bluster and protest “but but but” when we have deduced you do have a European (probably always have had, nothing to do with Brexit) operation, and that, for the third time, you have NOT been PERSONALLY negatively affected by Brexit. You simply list hypothetical absurd situations (ice cream vans on different licence regimes) as if that aids your arguments. As F Murray Abraham once said to me: “be what you are if not you want to be the other, in times of trouble”. Wise words. | |||
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. I have repeatedly so please stop saying that Chris. I do include you in that, I’ve read many times your minor paperwork complaints. Far as I can see A) you’re being kept busy, which is good. Busy is good from a job point of view B) you have a job, probably doing overtime, so you’re better off. I say again, and it’s a a repetitive point I know... no one has shown how they, personally, are worse off. And you’re better off. Riddle me that. Wow... King of Spin.
Which part is not true?
You’ve made assumptions. You don’t know if the overtime is a result of extra business or extra complications. You’ve also dismissed their concerns to paint a picture which may not be accurate. Is that not spin?
Not at all. I have consistently asked the straightforward question for anyone to show how they, personally, have been negatively affected by Brexit.
This is a very simple and precise question posed in my usual forensic fashion.
Answer there has been none.
Forensic implies precise and with intellect but I'm struggling to grasp that concept from someone who claims to use the government’s own software system to export a few pallets a year.
Its like having the DVLA computer installed at home to buy a bike at Halfords. So you were making stuff up again and we’ve established that as fact!!
Minor paperwork you claim? Given your proven lack of knowledge on the subject we can deduct you don’t understand the issues being discussed.
Those minor paperwork issues run into seven figure costs each year for my business so across U.K. industry the figure will be billions.
I’m paid a salary by the company so overtime not something of benefit to me.
The company has increased costs due to customs costs and physical procedures which result in higher transport and shipping costs. . So increases across the board.
Increased costs means lower margin. You following??
This reduction in margin results in lower profits.
Lower profits means less jobs and less spare cash for me to take and re-invest.
Maths not your strong point??
Busy is good hmmm so if I pay a guy £10 to hammer nails in at 100 nails an hour he is going to be delighted when I tell him to hammer in 200 per hour for the same rate because as you say busy is positive for his job!! Interesting economic benefit. We do more work for less money!!! I’m beginning to see a pro Brexit voter pattern here.
You must start listening the those professors rather than you doing all the talking. They can maybe help strengthen your wind up posts with some facts to at least make them look slightly credible. Or maybe not, as making factually positive Brexit claims is a big ask.
. Maybe to keep the issue in context it would be helpfull to indicate what % age of your total costs the extra administration is. If you are moving full loads I would have thought that it is negligible or hardly noticeable. I am assuming that all your competitors incur similar costs .
Most businnesses have adapted and simply moved on.
You have previously indicated that you run a very successfull and profitable businness. I think you also said that you had sufficient resources to open up production facilities abroad. In this case I fail to understand your concerns about a small amount of extra paperwork. You even said that you were prepared to pay more income or corporation tax so maybe just consider the extra paperwork as helping the civil service employ more people .
If you are an export business surely your biggest concern would be currency movements. Currency movements have been very favourable to exporters in recent years .
What he said^^^^^
Answered him and your inability to respond with a valid argument exposes your complete ignorance of the issues facing business and leads me to believe you are a a Brexit supporter who has no concept of the actual reality of the negatives involved across the U.K. Having no intelligent reply is telling.
Blue passports made in Poland and cries of Empire supporting the jingoism of the tabloid press shows us your professors are the lead commentators in the said tabloids. .
Your experience is chronically limited and the embarrassing exposure of your complete lack of customs exporting knowledge has just confirmed my belief that you are full of drivel! ". Hello. I am even more confused by your post now . What you appear to be saying is that a 25 % movement in currency costs ( which would make your exports more expensive by a similar amount ) does not bother you yet a minimal increase in administration costs concerns you deeply. Whilst it may be possible to hedge currency in the short term what you appear to indicate is that you are actually trading currency. In this case surely you could just as easily lose money as make money and in any event I would regard a currency trading side as entirely separate to the main trading organisation. There may be a few teething problems with Brexit for some companies but overall the impact is immaterial . I am sure Unilever have simply adopted to changing circumstances. If there were any serious issues with Brexit the FTSE 250 would hardly be at an all time high and numerous plcs are announcing better than expected results. | |||
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"France, a country where retired generals send a letter to Macron, and 58% of the population agree with them. Germany now seems it has no central control over its regions with each doing it's own covid thing. I see the EU commission looking over their shoulders wondering what is next. The only advantage of staying in the EU is that we would have all started recovering from the same place when the bottom falls out of the EU. If it does not change, it will fail, even the commission can now see it, but seemed scared to ask for ideas to prevent it, 27 different answers and ideas would take some serious voting to get unanimous agreement. The EU will change, and it will change quicker and easier now that the UK have left How quick are we talking? The EU have needed change for years already No idea, it has to change to survive though and the likes of Barnier realise this , the UK leaving has accelerated change I'm glad we agree on something. If only everyone was willing change whilst we were still a member. We may never have had Brexit And that was their biggest mistake, but let’s behonest, there were people (Farage) that would never have accepted any changes and works have pushed to leave anyway Just as there are people in all walks of life who never accept things. I mean we only have to look at this very subject to see that. Why should all remain voters accept what is happening ? I didn't say they should. You brought up the fact that some people will never accept change. You want people to accept change unless it doesn't suit? That a very insular viewpoint No I don’t, you can’t please everyone. If we want to rejoin the EU we need to follow what Farage and his ‘partys’ did , create division, obstruct, moan etc etc Well we have 40 years of that to look forward to. As long as you can rest in peace knowing you've bitched about Britain for the rest of your days, you'll be good
Like Farage and his supporters did? Moaned, obstructed, demonised immigrants etc it’s a shitty tactic but it worked
I'm very surprised that you seem to hold Farage in such high regard that you want to emulate him
He is a cunt, but he helped get Brexit, being a lying racist cunt gets results, apparently
Did you see him get pranked?
Again? Is this a new or old prank? I know he is now selling personal messages on some site,
Yeah he is resorting to sending birthday messages out and he did one for a hugh jass
Ha, what bell end, imagine being one of the idiots who fell for his lies
Here we go... Woke opinion is that Brexit voters are thick...
What is ‘woke opinion ‘ ? Did you believe Farage?
Nope, I don't "believe" anyone, including you.
I talk to top people and use verified independent facts to form my opinions.
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"What a lot of moaning nonsense. We have Brussels right where we want them, on the retreat facing multiple rebellions. Nobody in these threads ever gives any concrete evidence of how they personally have been negatively affected by Brexit. I have repeatedly so please stop saying that Chris. I do include you in that, I’ve read many times your minor paperwork complaints. Far as I can see A) you’re being kept busy, which is good. Busy is good from a job point of view B) you have a job, probably doing overtime, so you’re better off. I say again, and it’s a a repetitive point I know... no one has shown how they, personally, are worse off. And you’re better off. Riddle me that. Wow... King of Spin.
Which part is not true?
You’ve made assumptions. You don’t know if the overtime is a result of extra business or extra complications. You’ve also dismissed their concerns to paint a picture which may not be accurate. Is that not spin?
Not at all. I have consistently asked the straightforward question for anyone to show how they, personally, have been negatively affected by Brexit.
This is a very simple and precise question posed in my usual forensic fashion.
Answer there has been none.
Forensic implies precise and with intellect but I'm struggling to grasp that concept from someone who claims to use the government’s own software system to export a few pallets a year.
Its like having the DVLA computer installed at home to buy a bike at Halfords. So you were making stuff up again and we’ve established that as fact!!
Minor paperwork you claim? Given your proven lack of knowledge on the subject we can deduct you don’t understand the issues being discussed.
Those minor paperwork issues run into seven figure costs each year for my business so across U.K. industry the figure will be billions.
I’m paid a salary by the company so overtime not something of benefit to me.
The company has increased costs due to customs costs and physical procedures which result in higher transport and shipping costs. . So increases across the board.
Increased costs means lower margin. You following??
This reduction in margin results in lower profits.
Lower profits means less jobs and less spare cash for me to take and re-invest.
Maths not your strong point??
Busy is good hmmm so if I pay a guy £10 to hammer nails in at 100 nails an hour he is going to be delighted when I tell him to hammer in 200 per hour for the same rate because as you say busy is positive for his job!! Interesting economic benefit. We do more work for less money!!! I’m beginning to see a pro Brexit voter pattern here.
You must start listening the those professors rather than you doing all the talking. They can maybe help strengthen your wind up posts with some facts to at least make them look slightly credible. Or maybe not, as making factually positive Brexit claims is a big ask.
. Maybe to keep the issue in context it would be helpfull to indicate what % age of your total costs the extra administration is. If you are moving full loads I would have thought that it is negligible or hardly noticeable. I am assuming that all your competitors incur similar costs .
Most businnesses have adapted and simply moved on.
You have previously indicated that you run a very successfull and profitable businness. I think you also said that you had sufficient resources to open up production facilities abroad. In this case I fail to understand your concerns about a small amount of extra paperwork. You even said that you were prepared to pay more income or corporation tax so maybe just consider the extra paperwork as helping the civil service employ more people .
If you are an export business surely your biggest concern would be currency movements. Currency movements have been very favourable to exporters in recent years .
What he said^^^^^
Answered him and your inability to respond with a valid argument exposes your complete ignorance of the issues facing business and leads me to believe you are a a Brexit supporter who has no concept of the actual reality of the negatives involved across the U.K. Having no intelligent reply is telling.
Blue passports made in Poland and cries of Empire supporting the jingoism of the tabloid press shows us your professors are the lead commentators in the said tabloids. .
Your experience is chronically limited and the embarrassing exposure of your complete lack of customs exporting knowledge has just confirmed my belief that you are full of drivel! Hello. I think the issue that people are trying to identify is what your gross operating margin is and why a few extra bits of paperwork would have any material impact on it. Most companies have adapted and done so very quickly so why should yours be an exception ? "We’ve adapted perfectly thanks as we have 30 plus years of customs experience. The competence issue is not with us it’s with the governments processes and the HMRC not being ready to cope with a last min deal. Like all other companies all those additional costs we are incurring will not go away. Brexit has added permanent costs and that is a fact. I had a meeting with directors of one of the biggest ferry operators in Europe this last week. I asked their opinion. Their volumes on unaccompanied have increased due to self drives dropping exports. They and their clients are struggling big time with logistics as drivers from Eastern Europe head home. (Look up RHA comments on this ) The customs office also doesn’t have enough staff to turn around documents so their ferries are suffering delays. . The issue over delays on clearances is also causing congestion at terminals for which they have now introduced punitive charging for parked trailers. This is slowing export bookings and volumes. Their words “the public have no concept of how shift this really is! “ Yes of course I’m going to discus my operating margin on a swingers site. Get a grip! I have first hand knowledge of this shit show and no amount of bullshit or Gove type rhetoric will tell me it’s all ok. The costs eventually will end up on the retail purchaser. Less buying power another benefit I’m sure you will try to disown. | |||
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