See Arlene foster has been forced out of the leadership of the dup and also as first minister of northern Ireland,
Who will miss her,
Which, even more sectarian, racist, homophobic bigot will replace her, |
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"See Arlene foster has been forced out of the leadership of the dup and also as first minister of northern Ireland,
Who will miss her,
Which, even more sectarian, racist, homophobic bigot will replace her, "
You personally may not miss her but she will be fondly remembered by all members of the DUP who unto recently held more seats than any other party. So in answer to your question a very significant portion of the electorate in Northern Ireland. That is why Arlene and the DUP were elected in the first instance. |
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"See Arlene foster has been forced out of the leadership of the dup and also as first minister of northern Ireland,
Who will miss her,
Which, even more sectarian, racist, homophobic bigot will replace her, You personally may not miss her but she will be fondly remembered by all members of the DUP who unto recently held more seats than any other party. So in answer to your question a very significant portion of the electorate in Northern Ireland. That is why Arlene and the DUP were elected in the first instance. "
Will all those who signed the no confidence motion remember her fondly?
Her own party ..
This is directly down to the mess that Boris has implemented in the protocol, the worry for all has to be that more radical elements will come to the fore and exploit the feeling that unionists have been dealt a poor hand by Westminster.. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
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"See Arlene foster has been forced out of the leadership of the dup and also as first minister of northern Ireland,
Who will miss her,
Which, even more sectarian, racist, homophobic bigot will replace her, You personally may not miss her but she will be fondly remembered by all members of the DUP who unto recently held more seats than any other party. So in answer to your question a very significant portion of the electorate in Northern Ireland. That is why Arlene and the DUP were elected in the first instance.
Will all those who signed the no confidence motion remember her fondly?
Her own party ..
This is directly down to the mess that Boris has implemented in the protocol, the worry for all has to be that more radical elements will come to the fore and exploit the feeling that unionists have been dealt a poor hand by Westminster.."
Nothing to do with Boris it is far more complex than blaming him |
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"See Arlene foster has been forced out of the leadership of the dup and also as first minister of northern Ireland,
Who will miss her,
Which, even more sectarian, racist, homophobic bigot will replace her, You personally may not miss her but she will be fondly remembered by all members of the DUP who unto recently held more seats than any other party. So in answer to your question a very significant portion of the electorate in Northern Ireland. That is why Arlene and the DUP were elected in the first instance.
Will all those who signed the no confidence motion remember her fondly?
Her own party ..
This is directly down to the mess that Boris has implemented in the protocol, the worry for all has to be that more radical elements will come to the fore and exploit the feeling that unionists have been dealt a poor hand by Westminster..Nothing to do with Boris it is far more complex than blaming him"
Take your head out if the sand Emma, before the protocol Boris said no border in the sea then he signed off on one and the falling out in the DUP stems from that..
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"See Arlene foster has been forced out of the leadership of the dup and also as first minister of northern Ireland,
Who will miss her,
Which, even more sectarian, racist, homophobic bigot will replace her, You personally may not miss her but she will be fondly remembered by all members of the DUP who unto recently held more seats than any other party. So in answer to your question a very significant portion of the electorate in Northern Ireland. That is why Arlene and the DUP were elected in the first instance.
Will all those who signed the no confidence motion remember her fondly?
Her own party ..
This is directly down to the mess that Boris has implemented in the protocol, the worry for all has to be that more radical elements will come to the fore and exploit the feeling that unionists have been dealt a poor hand by Westminster..Nothing to do with Boris it is far more complex than blaming him"
That idiot hopefully he will have to resign then we can have a party. |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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"See Arlene foster has been forced out of the leadership of the dup and also as first minister of northern Ireland,
Who will miss her,
Which, even more sectarian, racist, homophobic bigot will replace her, You personally may not miss her but she will be fondly remembered by all members of the DUP who unto recently held more seats than any other party. So in answer to your question a very significant portion of the electorate in Northern Ireland. That is why Arlene and the DUP were elected in the first instance.
Will all those who signed the no confidence motion remember her fondly?
Her own party ..
This is directly down to the mess that Boris has implemented in the protocol, the worry for all has to be that more radical elements will come to the fore and exploit the feeling that unionists have been dealt a poor hand by Westminster..Nothing to do with Boris it is far more complex than blaming him"
This has everything to do with Boris because Foster has been accused of being naive with the Conservatives and allowing Johnson to dupe her and the DUP into believing that they would be rewarded for supporting his Brexit.
Still what matters next could be very, very significant if - as seems more likely than not, a harder line DUP Leader emerges. A more robust opposition to the NI Protocol and to Johnson will give the U.K. Government a major problem. |
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"See Arlene foster has been forced out of the leadership of the dup and also as first minister of northern Ireland,
Who will miss her,
Which, even more sectarian, racist, homophobic bigot will replace her, You personally may not miss her but she will be fondly remembered by all members of the DUP who unto recently held more seats than any other party. So in answer to your question a very significant portion of the electorate in Northern Ireland. That is why Arlene and the DUP were elected in the first instance.
Will all those who signed the no confidence motion remember her fondly?
Her own party ..
This is directly down to the mess that Boris has implemented in the protocol, the worry for all has to be that more radical elements will come to the fore and exploit the feeling that unionists have been dealt a poor hand by Westminster..Nothing to do with Boris it is far more complex than blaming him
This has everything to do with Boris because Foster has been accused of being naive with the Conservatives and allowing Johnson to dupe her and the DUP into believing that they would be rewarded for supporting his Brexit.
Still what matters next could be very, very significant if - as seems more likely than not, a harder line DUP Leader emerges. A more robust opposition to the NI Protocol and to Johnson will give the U.K. Government a major problem."
Agreed..
A less pragmatic leader prepared to work with all the other parties will be an issue in many areas.. |
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"See Arlene foster has been forced out of the leadership of the dup and also as first minister of northern Ireland,
Who will miss her,
Which, even more sectarian, racist, homophobic bigot will replace her, "
Iris Robinson maybe?
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"See Arlene foster has been forced out of the leadership of the dup and also as first minister of northern Ireland,
Who will miss her,
Which, even more sectarian, racist, homophobic bigot will replace her, "
Politics pundits are saying the DUP are hoping to elect a moderate as leader. Someone who thinks homosexuals should be burned at the stake but that the fuel used to burn them must be renewable.
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"See Arlene foster has been forced out of the leadership of the dup and also as first minister of northern Ireland,
Who will miss her,
Which, even more sectarian, racist, homophobic bigot will replace her,
Politics pundits are saying the DUP are hoping to elect a moderate as leader. Someone who thinks homosexuals should be burned at the stake but that the fuel used to burn them must be renewable.
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I understand the sentiments about the DUP but when the other side is SinnFein the political wing of the IRA . I know where my thoughts go......i am old enough to remember the barbaric acts of this so called army. |
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"I understand the sentiments about the DUP but when the other side is SinnFein the political wing of the IRA . I know where my thoughts go......i am old enough to remember the barbaric acts of this so called army."
All sides and that includes the state have blood in their hands, it was a dirty war across the board..
That's not excusing any side at all..
The ongoing issue and the fight worth having is to maintain my the GFA and not allow the narrow minded minority of to take things back to those dark days .. |
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"I understand the sentiments about the DUP but when the other side is SinnFein the political wing of the IRA . I know where my thoughts go......i am old enough to remember the barbaric acts of this so called army."
The DUP have strong links with loyalist paramilitary groups too. They're more than just a bunch of racist homophobes.
Thankfully NI has other parties for people to choose from that are neither DUP or SF. |
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"I understand the sentiments about the DUP but when the other side is SinnFein the political wing of the IRA . I know where my thoughts go......i am old enough to remember the barbaric acts of this so called army.
The DUP have strong links with loyalist paramilitary groups too. They're more than just a bunch of racist homophobes.
Thankfully NI has other parties for people to choose from that are neither DUP or SF."
It's to these other parties that the younger generations are going, the ones not brainwashed by the radicals that is..
The DUP either wake up to the long term prospect of such or they will whither and end up on the fringes..
A professor of Irish studies said last night that joining the current DUP is like buying a black and white television.. |
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"I understand the sentiments about the DUP but when the other side is SinnFein the political wing of the IRA . I know where my thoughts go......i am old enough to remember the barbaric acts of this so called army."
Sadly a lot of people for reasons unknown ard prepared to overlook this.
I will never forget the actions of a cowardly organisation who were prepared to kill innocent people and children for simply doing their jobs. The intimidation and threats suffered by building contractors was a disgracefull and cowardly act. One local roofinh contractor was murdered.
Civil servants travelling to work had to take different routes to work ever day and check their cars for potential bombs before they could even start them . In some areas even speaking to a member of the security forces could result in intimidation or even a death sentence.
The harsh reality is that the terrorist organisation concerned only had the support of a very small minority and consequently could only promote their agenda by violence, intimidation and a sustained bombing campaign. If they had policies that were popular they would have achieved election success.
Whilst the GFA may have achieved peace , it is entirely wrong that many terrorists were never convicted of many totally repulsive offences . |
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"I understand the sentiments about the DUP but when the other side is SinnFein the political wing of the IRA . I know where my thoughts go......i am old enough to remember the barbaric acts of this so called army. Sadly a lot of people for reasons unknown ard prepared to overlook this.
I will never forget the actions of a cowardly organisation who were prepared to kill innocent people and children for simply doing their jobs. The intimidation and threats suffered by building contractors was a disgracefull and cowardly act. One local roofinh contractor was murdered.
Civil servants travelling to work had to take different routes to work ever day and check their cars for potential bombs before they could even start them . In some areas even speaking to a member of the security forces could result in intimidation or even a death sentence.
The harsh reality is that the terrorist organisation concerned only had the support of a very small minority and consequently could only promote their agenda by violence, intimidation and a sustained bombing campaign. If they had policies that were popular they would have achieved election success.
Whilst the GFA may have achieved peace , it is entirely wrong that many terrorists were never convicted of many totally repulsive offences ."
Pat the same can be applied to the UVF and others on the unionist side, and whilst I too have direct reasons about forgiveness etc in relation to such times it's not the way forward..
To not accept it was both sides that carried out such acts against innocent people is to distort the reality of the time, to not acknowledge the hurt caused to all only serves to ignore the pain of one side and is not the way.. |
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"I understand the sentiments about the DUP but when the other side is SinnFein the political wing of the IRA . I know where my thoughts go......i am old enough to remember the barbaric acts of this so called army. Sadly a lot of people for reasons unknown ard prepared to overlook this.
I will never forget the actions of a cowardly organisation who were prepared to kill innocent people and children for simply doing their jobs. The intimidation and threats suffered by building contractors was a disgracefull and cowardly act. One local roofinh contractor was murdered.
Civil servants travelling to work had to take different routes to work ever day and check their cars for potential bombs before they could even start them . In some areas even speaking to a member of the security forces could result in intimidation or even a death sentence.
The harsh reality is that the terrorist organisation concerned only had the support of a very small minority and consequently could only promote their agenda by violence, intimidation and a sustained bombing campaign. If they had policies that were popular they would have achieved election success.
Whilst the GFA may have achieved peace , it is entirely wrong that many terrorists were never convicted of many totally repulsive offences ."
I don't think anyone is forgetting or overlooking the actions of the paramilitaries or the British army.
It was a trade off, a bitter pill to swallow for a lot of people. But they have peace at moment. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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Biggest mistake that Arlene made was supporting leave in the brexit referendum in Northern Ireland rather than remaining neutral….. she was smart enough to know what was coming and boris basically still shafted them!
She overplayed the hand when may was pm.. and it came back to bite them hard |
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"I understand the sentiments about the DUP but when the other side is SinnFein the political wing of the IRA . I know where my thoughts go......i am old enough to remember the barbaric acts of this so called army."
Foster has had no issue with meeting the reps of the likes of UDA/UVF either both in public or private either
Wouldn’t meet the Chief Constable,called for his sacking and yet could meet the leadership of these terrorist organisations.
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"I understand the sentiments about the DUP but when the other side is SinnFein the political wing of the IRA . I know where my thoughts go......i am old enough to remember the barbaric acts of this so called army. Sadly a lot of people for reasons unknown ard prepared to overlook this.
I will never forget the actions of a cowardly organisation who were prepared to kill innocent people and children for simply doing their jobs. The intimidation and threats suffered by building contractors was a disgracefull and cowardly act. One local roofinh contractor was murdered.
Civil servants travelling to work had to take different routes to work ever day and check their cars for potential bombs before they could even start them . In some areas even speaking to a member of the security forces could result in intimidation or even a death sentence.
The harsh reality is that the terrorist organisation concerned only had the support of a very small minority and consequently could only promote their agenda by violence, intimidation and a sustained bombing campaign. If they had policies that were popular they would have achieved election success.
Whilst the GFA may have achieved peace , it is entirely wrong that many terrorists were never convicted of many totally repulsive offences ."
There has been barbarity and brutality on all sides
Yesterday was the anniversary of the mount street massacre in Dublin
When the British rounded up 15 innocent civilians
Bayonetted them to death
And then tried to cover it up by hiding their bodies in the rubble of buildings
No one can claim the high moral ground in what’s happened on the island of Ireland |
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"I understand the sentiments about the DUP but when the other side is SinnFein the political wing of the IRA . I know where my thoughts go......i am old enough to remember the barbaric acts of this so called army."
Do you know who Emma Little-Pengelly's Father was & why he was nailed ?
Nigell Doods ex dup mp & His roll in Ulster Resistance
The money that was raised to buy VZ58s which were used in the murders of about 70 people .
Peter Robinson Ex MP Ian Paisley Snr Current DUP Mp Sammy wilson.
All at the Original Ulster Resistance meetings .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/27/troubled-past-the-paramilitary-connection-that-still-haunts-the-dup
BTW you do know rhat Dublins ruling government parties FF& FG
Were born out od the political wings of the IRA/ SF as they were back then .
As the song goes
And you dare to call me a terrorist
While you look down your gun
When I think of all the deeds that you have done
You have plundered many nations, divided many lands
You have terrorized their peoples
You ruled with an iron hand
And you brought this reign of terror to my land
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"I understand the sentiments about the DUP but when the other side is SinnFein the political wing of the IRA . I know where my thoughts go......i am old enough to remember the barbaric acts of this so called army.
Do you know who Emma Little-Pengelly's Father was & why he was nailed ?
Nigell Doods ex dup mp & His roll in Ulster Resistance
The money that was raised to buy VZ58s which were used in the murders of about 70 people .
Peter Robinson Ex MP Ian Paisley Snr Current DUP Mp Sammy wilson.
All at the Original Ulster Resistance meetings .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/27/troubled-past-the-paramilitary-connection-that-still-haunts-the-dup
BTW you do know rhat Dublins ruling government parties FF& FG
Were born out od the political wings of the IRA/ SF as they were back then .
As the song goes
And you dare to call me a terrorist
While you look down your gun
When I think of all the deeds that you have done
You have plundered many nations, divided many lands
You have terrorized their peoples
You ruled with an iron hand
And you brought this reign of terror to my land
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"The Irish also offered succour to the Germans during WW1 and burned their own people out of their homes for fighting the fascists in WW2.....So no lessons on morality from the Irish..."
They said I was ruthless, daring, savage, blood thirsty, even heartless. The clergy called me and my comrades murderers; but the British were met with their own weapons. They had gone in the mire to destroy us and our nation and down after them we had to go.
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
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"See Arlene foster has been forced out of the leadership of the dup and also as first minister of northern Ireland,
Who will miss her,
Which, even more sectarian, racist, homophobic bigot will replace her, You personally may not miss her but she will be fondly remembered by all members of the DUP who unto recently held more seats than any other party. So in answer to your question a very significant portion of the electorate in Northern Ireland. That is why Arlene and the DUP were elected in the first instance. "
Lol, thats selectively delusional. Arlene has done more to bring about a united Ireland that 40 years of armed conflict
Arlene will be remembered as the Unionist leader that brought about the first loss of the unionist political majority since 1921. In the 2019 GE the DUP lost seats to SF, SDLP and Alliance beat them in a seat they expected to take, they barely held east belfast. The voters of belfast north chose to represented by an absentee MP. John Finnucane whose father was murdered in front of him with the aid, knowledge and assistance of the British state.
Then we'll talk about the RHI scheme, aka cash for ash where participants got £1.60 for every £1 spent.
Now to Brexit, the DUP wanted a return to the good old days of a land border, instead thanks to Arlene refusing to back May's deal (3 times), they ended up shafted by Boris and the Sea Border. Fuck about and find out, they found out.
Then we should address the repeated vetoing of same sex marriage and the DUP's opposition to a woman's right to choose. I could go on but... |
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"See Arlene foster has been forced out of the leadership of the dup and also as first minister of northern Ireland,
Who will miss her,
Which, even more sectarian, racist, homophobic bigot will replace her, You personally may not miss her but she will be fondly remembered by all members of the DUP who unto recently held more seats than any other party. So in answer to your question a very significant portion of the electorate in Northern Ireland. That is why Arlene and the DUP were elected in the first instance.
Lol, thats selectively delusional. Arlene has done more to bring about a united Ireland that 40 years of armed conflict
Arlene will be remembered as the Unionist leader that brought about the first loss of the unionist political majority since 1921. In the 2019 GE the DUP lost seats to SF, SDLP and Alliance beat them in a seat they expected to take, they barely held east belfast. The voters of belfast north chose to represented by an absentee MP. John Finnucane whose father was murdered in front of him with the aid, knowledge and assistance of the British state.
Then we'll talk about the RHI scheme, aka cash for ash where participants got £1.60 for every £1 spent.
Now to Brexit, the DUP wanted a return to the good old days of a land border, instead thanks to Arlene refusing to back May's deal (3 times), they ended up shafted by Boris and the Sea Border. Fuck about and find out, they found out.
Then we should address the repeated vetoing of same sex marriage and the DUP's opposition to a woman's right to choose. I could go on but..."
A Finnucane taking the Seat of Deputy leader of the DUP
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I will never forget the actions of a cowardly organisation who were prepared to kill innocent people and children for simply doing their jobs. The intimidation and threats suffered by building contractors was a disgracefull and cowardly act. One local roofinh contractor was murdered.
Civil servants travelling to work had to take different routes to work ever day and check their cars for potential bombs before they could even start them . In some areas even speaking to a member of the security forces could result in intimidation or even a death sentence.
The harsh reality is that the terrorist organisation concerned only had the support of a very small minority and consequently could only promote their agenda by violence, intimidation and a sustained bombing campaign. If they had policies that were popular they would have achieved election success.
Whilst the GFA may have achieved peace , it is entirely wrong that many terrorists were never convicted of many totally repulsive offences .
There has been barbarity and brutality on all sides
Yesterday was the anniversary of the mount street massacre in Dublin
When the British rounded up 15 innocent civilians
Bayonetted them to death
And then tried to cover it up by hiding their bodies in the rubble of buildings
No one can claim the high moral ground in what’s happened on the island of Ireland "
I think you might find the note below a slightly more accurate version of events
British troops of the Sherwood Foresters regiment landed at Dún Laoghaire and just after noon on Wednesday entered Northumberland Road. Malone and Volunteer Jim Grace held them at bay for hours but were unable to prevent the final assault. Malone was driven to the top of the house where he was shot dead. Grace managed to escape.
Clanwilliam House was occupied by seven Volunteers. They poured rifle fire on advancing British troops, causing numerous casualties. But fire from the overwhelming number of British troops was devastating and Clanwilliam House was set ablaze. The bodies of three fallen Volunteers were consumed in the flames.
Four Volunteers were killed in the Battle of Mount Street Bridge. On the British side there were 17 killed and over 200 wounded, many seriously, their highest losses in the Rising.
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"See Arlene foster has been forced out of the leadership of the dup and also as first minister of northern Ireland,
Who will miss her,
Which, even more sectarian, racist, homophobic bigot will replace her, "
As Gerry might Say
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"I understand the sentiments about the DUP but when the other side is SinnFein the political wing of the IRA . I know where my thoughts go......i am old enough to remember the barbaric acts of this so called army. Sadly a lot of people for reasons unknown ard prepared to overlook this.
I will never forget the actions of a cowardly organisation who were prepared to kill innocent people and children for simply doing their jobs. The intimidation and threats suffered by building contractors was a disgracefull and cowardly act. One local roofinh contractor was murdered.
Civil servants travelling to work had to take different routes to work ever day and check their cars for potential bombs before they could even start them . In some areas even speaking to a member of the security forces could result in intimidation or even a death sentence.
The harsh reality is that the terrorist organisation concerned only had the support of a very small minority and consequently could only promote their agenda by violence, intimidation and a sustained bombing campaign. If they had policies that were popular they would have achieved election success.
Whilst the GFA may have achieved peace , it is entirely wrong that many terrorists were never convicted of many totally repulsive offences .
There has been barbarity and brutality on all sides
Yesterday was the anniversary of the mount street massacre in Dublin
When the British rounded up 15 innocent civilians
Bayonetted them to death
And then tried to cover it up by hiding their bodies in the rubble of buildings
No one can claim the high moral ground in what’s happened on the island of Ireland
I think you might find the note below a slightly more accurate version of events
British troops of the Sherwood Foresters regiment landed at Dún Laoghaire and just after noon on Wednesday entered Northumberland Road. Malone and Volunteer Jim Grace held them at bay for hours but were unable to prevent the final assault. Malone was driven to the top of the house where he was shot dead. Grace managed to escape.
Clanwilliam House was occupied by seven Volunteers. They poured rifle fire on advancing British troops, causing numerous casualties. But fire from the overwhelming number of British troops was devastating and Clanwilliam House was set ablaze. The bodies of three fallen Volunteers were consumed in the flames.
Four Volunteers were killed in the Battle of Mount Street Bridge. On the British side there were 17 killed and over 200 wounded, many seriously, their highest losses in the Rising.
City Hall "
The aftermath of the battle of mount street
“Infuriated with the losses they had suffered, on late Friday evening and early Saturday morning, the troops broke into the homes of the locals and shot or bayoneted 15 civilian men whom they accused of being rebels. They killed three men at 170 North Kings Street whose dead bodies were found to have bayonet wounds, then broke into number 172 and killed two men. In number 174 two more were shot dead. Two more civilian men were killed at number 177 and in 27 North King Street another four men, who all worked there at the Louth Dairy were found dead in a basement and one more man was killed at number 91. The fifteenth James Moore was shot dead on adjoining Little Britain Street by the British troops”
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"See Arlene foster has been forced out of the leadership of the dup and also as first minister of northern Ireland,
Who will miss her,
Which, even more sectarian, racist, homophobic bigot will replace her, You personally may not miss her but she will be fondly remembered by all members of the DUP who unto recently held more seats than any other party. So in answer to your question a very significant portion of the electorate in Northern Ireland. That is why Arlene and the DUP were elected in the first instance.
Lol, thats selectively delusional. Arlene has done more to bring about a united Ireland that 40 years of armed conflict
Arlene will be remembered as the Unionist leader that brought about the first loss of the unionist political majority since 1921. In the 2019 GE the DUP lost seats to SF, SDLP and Alliance beat them in a seat they expected to take, they barely held east belfast. The voters of belfast north chose to represented by an absentee MP. John Finnucane whose father was murdered in front of him with the aid, knowledge and assistance of the British state.
Then we'll talk about the RHI scheme, aka cash for ash where participants got £1.60 for every £1 spent.
Now to Brexit, the DUP wanted a return to the good old days of a land border, instead thanks to Arlene refusing to back May's deal (3 times), they ended up shafted by Boris and the Sea Border. Fuck about and find out, they found out.
Then we should address the repeated vetoing of same sex marriage and the DUP's opposition to a woman's right to choose. I could go on but..."
Currently all excited over Boris and his redecorating
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"The Irish also offered succour to the Germans during WW1 and burned their own people out of their homes for fighting the fascists in WW2.....So no lessons on morality from the Irish..."
I think you’ll find it was the Unionists who imported weapons from Germany into Larne in 1914
And it’s bollocks to say that any Irish houses were burnt in such manner in WW2
When we had seen our second city Cork burnt 20 years previously by the British army
Elected Mayors murdered
2 in a row in Limerick to be clear
Men women and children as young as 12 machine gunned watching a football match in croke park
Systematic r ape and torture of women
People working in the fields used as target practice
Priests and all denominations of clergy tortured and their bodies burnt
Maybe in some parallel universe if the Irish had done all that to GB
Your no need for lessons in morality from the Irish might hold some water
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By *uietbloke67Man
over a year ago
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"I understand the sentiments about the DUP but when the other side is SinnFein the political wing of the IRA . I know where my thoughts go......i am old enough to remember the barbaric acts of this so called army."
Aye and I could quote you some horror stories that criminals dressed in and soiling a british army uniform did to innocent Irish but you know what I wont, because the Irish people want to move on...so why dont you.
Your Scottish ffs whats Ireland got to do with you and 95% of the english comments on the subject? |
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By *innMan
over a year ago
edinburgh |
You have little idea why the IRA took to the streets in NI. It wasn’t a political point. It was because loyalists were killing and physically attacking catholics.
In the late 60s early 70’s they blatantly advertised jobs with the statement catholic’s need not apply.
They would physically attack catholics without fear of punishment or being arrested - because the police were all Protestants and would not follow up with arrests or criminal charges. Therefore the loyalists went on a violent spree when ever the mood took them. In one instance a group of men with bats snd clubs went into a factory on the falls road and beat every catholic they could find - it was a clothing manufacturing factory - 90% of the employees were women and they beat them mercilessly with clubs. They had locked all the doors so the women could not get out.
Read the story of the shankle butchers.
The violence that erupted in the 70’s and 80’s didn’t just arise out of a political desire for a free Ireland. It was the direct result of violence on the minority catholic populace.
There were civil rights marches at the start of the conflict. Yes - civil rights matches by catholics because they were living in fear.
The NI problem stems from the violence perpetrated on catholics. It’s very simple. |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
North West |
"You have little idea why the IRA took to the streets in NI. It wasn’t a political point. It was because loyalists were killing and physically attacking catholics.
In the late 60s early 70’s they blatantly advertised jobs with the statement catholic’s need not apply.
They would physically attack catholics without fear of punishment or being arrested - because the police were all Protestants and would not follow up with arrests or criminal charges. Therefore the loyalists went on a violent spree when ever the mood took them. In one instance a group of men with bats snd clubs went into a factory on the falls road and beat every catholic they could find - it was a clothing manufacturing factory - 90% of the employees were women and they beat them mercilessly with clubs. They had locked all the doors so the women could not get out.
Read the story of the shankle butchers.
The violence that erupted in the 70’s and 80’s didn’t just arise out of a political desire for a free Ireland. It was the direct result of violence on the minority catholic populace.
There were civil rights marches at the start of the conflict. Yes - civil rights matches by catholics because they were living in fear.
The NI problem stems from the violence perpetrated on catholics. It’s very simple. "
Correct... And with great irony the British Army were initially sent in to protect Catholics. |
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"You have little idea why the IRA took to the streets in NI. It wasn’t a political point. It was because loyalists were killing and physically attacking catholics.
In the late 60s early 70’s they blatantly advertised jobs with the statement catholic’s need not apply.
They would physically attack catholics without fear of punishment or being arrested - because the police were all Protestants and would not follow up with arrests or criminal charges. Therefore the loyalists went on a violent spree when ever the mood took them. In one instance a group of men with bats snd clubs went into a factory on the falls road and beat every catholic they could find - it was a clothing manufacturing factory - 90% of the employees were women and they beat them mercilessly with clubs. They had locked all the doors so the women could not get out.
Read the story of the shankle butchers.
The violence that erupted in the 70’s and 80’s didn’t just arise out of a political desire for a free Ireland. It was the direct result of violence on the minority catholic populace.
There were civil rights marches at the start of the conflict. Yes - civil rights matches by catholics because they were living in fear.
The NI problem stems from the violence perpetrated on catholics. It’s very simple.
Correct... And with great irony the British Army were initially sent in to protect Catholics."
Even greater Irony
The 1st soldier killed, was by killed by loyalists .
You just have to look at the creggan development to se the
Scandolous gerrymandering that allowed protestant unionism to inflict Its will on Catholics in the 6 counties .
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By *aid backMan
over a year ago
by a lake with my rod out |
"The Irish also offered succour to the Germans during WW1 and burned their own people out of their homes for fighting the fascists in WW2.....So no lessons on morality from the Irish..."
Is it crack that you are smoking ? Or are you just anti Irish, |
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By *uietbloke67Man
over a year ago
outside your bedroom window ;-) |
"The Irish also offered succour to the Germans during WW1 and burned their own people out of their homes for fighting the fascists in WW2.....So no lessons on morality from the Irish...
Is it crack that you are smoking ? Or are you just anti Irish, "
Think yourself lucky mate, Ive got to share a country with these crackpots.... |
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"You have little idea why the IRA took to the streets in NI. It wasn’t a political point. It was because loyalists were killing and physically attacking catholics.
In the late 60s early 70’s they blatantly advertised jobs with the statement catholic’s need not apply.
They would physically attack catholics without fear of punishment or being arrested - because the police were all Protestants and would not follow up with arrests or criminal charges. Therefore the loyalists went on a violent spree when ever the mood took them. In one instance a group of men with bats snd clubs went into a factory on the falls road and beat every catholic they could find - it was a clothing manufacturing factory - 90% of the employees were women and they beat them mercilessly with clubs. They had locked all the doors so the women could not get out.
Read the story of the shankle butchers.
The violence that erupted in the 70’s and 80’s didn’t just arise out of a political desire for a free Ireland. It was the direct result of violence on the minority catholic populace.
There were civil rights marches at the start of the conflict. Yes - civil rights matches by catholics because they were living in fear.
The NI problem stems from the violence perpetrated on catholics. It’s very simple.
Correct... And with great irony the British Army were initially sent in to protect Catholics.
Even greater Irony
The 1st soldier killed, was by killed by loyalists .
You just have to look at the creggan development to se the
Scandolous gerrymandering that allowed protestant unionism to inflict Its will on Catholics in the 6 counties .
"
Your post appears to lack any accuracy. The first soldier killed was Gunner Curtis and the provisional IRA were held responsible for it . If the IRA has any valid campaign points they would have found these through the ballot box . Instead an organisation. supported by only a small minority fought a campaign based on vicious intimidation of local residents and sustained attacks on innocent people including civil servants, building contractors and members of the security forces who were simply doing their jobs . |
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By *uietbloke67Man
over a year ago
outside your bedroom window ;-) |
"You have little idea why the IRA took to the streets in NI. It wasn’t a political point. It was because loyalists were killing and physically attacking catholics.
In the late 60s early 70’s they blatantly advertised jobs with the statement catholic’s need not apply.
They would physically attack catholics without fear of punishment or being arrested - because the police were all Protestants and would not follow up with arrests or criminal charges. Therefore the loyalists went on a violent spree when ever the mood took them. In one instance a group of men with bats snd clubs went into a factory on the falls road and beat every catholic they could find - it was a clothing manufacturing factory - 90% of the employees were women and they beat them mercilessly with clubs. They had locked all the doors so the women could not get out.
Read the story of the shankle butchers.
The violence that erupted in the 70’s and 80’s didn’t just arise out of a political desire for a free Ireland. It was the direct result of violence on the minority catholic populace.
There were civil rights marches at the start of the conflict. Yes - civil rights matches by catholics because they were living in fear.
The NI problem stems from the violence perpetrated on catholics. It’s very simple.
Correct... And with great irony the British Army were initially sent in to protect Catholics.
Even greater Irony
The 1st soldier killed, was by killed by loyalists .
You just have to look at the creggan development to se the
Scandolous gerrymandering that allowed protestant unionism to inflict Its will on Catholics in the 6 counties .
Your post appears to lack any accuracy. The first soldier killed was Gunner Curtis and the provisional IRA were held responsible for it . If the IRA has any valid campaign points they would have found these through the ballot box . Instead an organisation. supported by only a small minority fought a campaign based on vicious intimidation of local residents and sustained attacks on innocent people including civil servants, building contractors and members of the security forces who were simply doing their jobs . "
I worked a guy who took great delight in telling you he took great delight in sticking his gun to kids heads when in night patrol..."some would even piss themselves with fear" he would laugh joyfully.
Just me careful mate when you support the masses and dont know the detail.
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The guy in general was a wee prick. |
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"You have little idea why the IRA took to the streets in NI. It wasn’t a political point. It was because loyalists were killing and physically attacking catholics.
In the late 60s early 70’s they blatantly advertised jobs with the statement catholic’s need not apply.
They would physically attack catholics without fear of punishment or being arrested - because the police were all Protestants and would not follow up with arrests or criminal charges. Therefore the loyalists went on a violent spree when ever the mood took them. In one instance a group of men with bats snd clubs went into a factory on the falls road and beat every catholic they could find - it was a clothing manufacturing factory - 90% of the employees were women and they beat them mercilessly with clubs. They had locked all the doors so the women could not get out.
Read the story of the shankle butchers.
The violence that erupted in the 70’s and 80’s didn’t just arise out of a political desire for a free Ireland. It was the direct result of violence on the minority catholic populace.
There were civil rights marches at the start of the conflict. Yes - civil rights matches by catholics because they were living in fear.
The NI problem stems from the violence perpetrated on catholics. It’s very simple.
Correct... And with great irony the British Army were initially sent in to protect Catholics.
Even greater Irony
The 1st soldier killed, was by killed by loyalists .
You just have to look at the creggan development to se the
Scandolous gerrymandering that allowed protestant unionism to inflict Its will on Catholics in the 6 counties .
Your post appears to lack any accuracy. The first soldier killed was Gunner Curtis and the provisional IRA were held responsible for it . If the IRA has any valid campaign points they would have found these through the ballot box . Instead an organisation. supported by only a small minority fought a campaign based on vicious intimidation of local residents and sustained attacks on innocent people including civil servants, building contractors and members of the security forces who were simply doing their jobs . "
Your post appears to lack any accuracy.
The Military reaction force were terrorist plain clothes British soldiers in the 70's who would indiscriminately shoot innocent civilans in the North of Ireland to spark sectarian conflict. Paid for by the British taxpayer. To say that the soldiers and RUC members of the day were just going about their business doing their jobs sounds like the tweet of a Tory who is delighted the queen is about to announce said MRF will not face any action for indiscriminate slaughter of civilians not involved in anyway in the war.
The idea behind this was to force the mobilisation of the newly formed IRA in greater numbers then allowing the British government to have a solid reason to base military forces on the island of Ireland.
The actions of the MRF directly put unionist and nationalist civil servants in the cross hairs of the IRA. As stated in British government documents there would be collateral damage (civil servants) but it was necessary to create a pretence for the need for a military presence. But you probably didn't know any of this did you ? Can I ask if any of the colonial history of Ireland/Britain is thought in schools ? |
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"You have little idea why the IRA took to the streets in NI. It wasn’t a political point. It was because loyalists were killing and physically attacking catholics.
In the late 60s early 70’s they blatantly advertised jobs with the statement catholic’s need not apply.
They would physically attack catholics without fear of punishment or being arrested - because the police were all Protestants and would not follow up with arrests or criminal charges. Therefore the loyalists went on a violent spree when ever the mood took them. In one instance a group of men with bats snd clubs went into a factory on the falls road and beat every catholic they could find - it was a clothing manufacturing factory - 90% of the employees were women and they beat them mercilessly with clubs. They had locked all the doors so the women could not get out.
Read the story of the shankle butchers.
The violence that erupted in the 70’s and 80’s didn’t just arise out of a political desire for a free Ireland. It was the direct result of violence on the minority catholic populace.
There were civil rights marches at the start of the conflict. Yes - civil rights matches by catholics because they were living in fear.
The NI problem stems from the violence perpetrated on catholics. It’s very simple.
Correct... And with great irony the British Army were initially sent in to protect Catholics.
Even greater Irony
The 1st soldier killed, was by killed by loyalists .
You just have to look at the creggan development to se the
Scandolous gerrymandering that allowed protestant unionism to inflict Its will on Catholics in the 6 counties .
Your post appears to lack any accuracy. The first soldier killed was Gunner Curtis and the provisional IRA were held responsible for it . If the IRA has any valid campaign points they would have found these through the ballot box . Instead an organisation. supported by only a small minority fought a campaign based on vicious intimidation of local residents and sustained attacks on innocent people including civil servants, building contractors and members of the security forces who were simply doing their jobs .
Your post appears to lack any accuracy.
The Military reaction force were terrorist plain clothes British soldiers in the 70's who would indiscriminately shoot innocent civilans in the North of Ireland to spark sectarian conflict. Paid for by the British taxpayer. To say that the soldiers and RUC members of the day were just going about their business doing their jobs sounds like the tweet of a Tory who is delighted the queen is about to announce said MRF will not face any action for indiscriminate slaughter of civilians not involved in anyway in the war.
The idea behind this was to force the mobilisation of the newly formed IRA in greater numbers then allowing the British government to have a solid reason to base military forces on the island of Ireland.
The actions of the MRF directly put unionist and nationalist civil servants in the cross hairs of the IRA. As stated in British government documents there would be collateral damage (civil servants) but it was necessary to create a pretence for the need for a military presence. But you probably didn't know any of this did you ? Can I ask if any of the colonial history of Ireland/Britain is thought in schools ?"
We didn't learn about Irish history at school but then again this country doesnt seem to keen on confronting some of the dodgy shit we got upto in the past.
I'd say a big chunk of the population are fairly ignorant on british historical actions in ireland. |
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"You have little idea why the IRA took to the streets in NI. It wasn’t a political point. It was because loyalists were killing and physically attacking catholics.
In the late 60s early 70’s they blatantly advertised jobs with the statement catholic’s need not apply.
They would physically attack catholics without fear of punishment or being arrested - because the police were all Protestants and would not follow up with arrests or criminal charges. Therefore the loyalists went on a violent spree when ever the mood took them. In one instance a group of men with bats snd clubs went into a factory on the falls road and beat every catholic they could find - it was a clothing manufacturing factory - 90% of the employees were women and they beat them mercilessly with clubs. They had locked all the doors so the women could not get out.
Read the story of the shankle butchers.
The violence that erupted in the 70’s and 80’s didn’t just arise out of a political desire for a free Ireland. It was the direct result of violence on the minority catholic populace.
There were civil rights marches at the start of the conflict. Yes - civil rights matches by catholics because they were living in fear.
The NI problem stems from the violence perpetrated on catholics. It’s very simple.
Correct... And with great irony the British Army were initially sent in to protect Catholics.
Even greater Irony
The 1st soldier killed, was by killed by loyalists .
You just have to look at the creggan development to se the
Scandolous gerrymandering that allowed protestant unionism to inflict Its will on Catholics in the 6 counties .
Your post appears to lack any accuracy. The first soldier killed was Gunner Curtis and the provisional IRA were held responsible for it . If the IRA has any valid campaign points they would have found these through the ballot box . Instead an organisation. supported by only a small minority fought a campaign based on vicious intimidation of local residents and sustained attacks on innocent people including civil servants, building contractors and members of the security forces who were simply doing their jobs .
Your post appears to lack any accuracy.
The Military reaction force were terrorist plain clothes British soldiers in the 70's who would indiscriminately shoot innocent civilans in the North of Ireland to spark sectarian conflict. Paid for by the British taxpayer. To say that the soldiers and RUC members of the day were just going about their business doing their jobs sounds like the tweet of a Tory who is delighted the queen is about to announce said MRF will not face any action for indiscriminate slaughter of civilians not involved in anyway in the war.
The idea behind this was to force the mobilisation of the newly formed IRA in greater numbers then allowing the British government to have a solid reason to base military forces on the island of Ireland.
The actions of the MRF directly put unionist and nationalist civil servants in the cross hairs of the IRA. As stated in British government documents there would be collateral damage (civil servants) but it was necessary to create a pretence for the need for a military presence. But you probably didn't know any of this did you ? Can I ask if any of the colonial history of Ireland/Britain is thought in schools ?
We didn't learn about Irish history at school but then again this country doesnt seem to keen on confronting some of the dodgy shit we got upto in the past.
I'd say a big chunk of the population are fairly ignorant on british historical actions in ireland."
I can understand why any country wouldn't want to drag up old crimes, we are no different and the IRA and splinter groups had their fair share of abhorrent crimes. Context is everything and every aspect of the troubles has deep historical hatred at its base. Simple facts like the setting up of the military reaction force and how fucked up they are were. The MRF were directly inspired by British Army "suppression" of the Mau Mau in Kenya. There they created actual concentration camps filled with 1000s of innocent people. Barack Obamas grandfather was sexually tortured by British Soldiers in one and because it was successful at suppressing any hint of civil normality in Kenya the same playbook was used by the same generals in northern Ireland. In a 100 years it will hopefully be a fascinating history lesson but right now it is still a part of an on going war of identities |
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"You have little idea why the IRA took to the streets in NI. It wasn’t a political point. It was because loyalists were killing and physically attacking catholics.
In the late 60s early 70’s they blatantly advertised jobs with the statement catholic’s need not apply.
They would physically attack catholics without fear of punishment or being arrested - because the police were all Protestants and would not follow up with arrests or criminal charges. Therefore the loyalists went on a violent spree when ever the mood took them. In one instance a group of men with bats snd clubs went into a factory on the falls road and beat every catholic they could find - it was a clothing manufacturing factory - 90% of the employees were women and they beat them mercilessly with clubs. They had locked all the doors so the women could not get out.
Read the story of the shankle butchers.
The violence that erupted in the 70’s and 80’s didn’t just arise out of a political desire for a free Ireland. It was the direct result of violence on the minority catholic populace.
There were civil rights marches at the start of the conflict. Yes - civil rights matches by catholics because they were living in fear.
The NI problem stems from the violence perpetrated on catholics. It’s very simple.
Correct... And with great irony the British Army were initially sent in to protect Catholics.
Even greater Irony
The 1st soldier killed, was by killed by loyalists .
You just have to look at the creggan development to se the
Scandolous gerrymandering that allowed protestant unionism to inflict Its will on Catholics in the 6 counties .
Your post appears to lack any accuracy. The first soldier killed was Gunner Curtis and the provisional IRA were held responsible for it . If the IRA has any valid campaign points they would have found these through the ballot box . Instead an organisation. supported by only a small minority fought a campaign based on vicious intimidation of local residents and sustained attacks on innocent people including civil servants, building contractors and members of the security forces who were simply doing their jobs . "
I think youll find that Curtis was the 1st shot by the IRA .
The 1st soldier killed
Was 1 Hugh McCabe 2 years before Curtis .
That doesnt fit a British propaganda Story though.
You will find the 1st RUC man shot dead by para militaries was a man called Victor Arbuckle .
Shot by the Ulster Volunteer Force.
Ballot Box in Ulster .
Wind yer neck in fella .
Bombay street had no involvement other than loyalists walked in & burnt catholics out of there homes ,
Only to work on those houses round the clock for protestant families to be rehoused within a fortnight
.
The RUC & The British goverment via your precious ballot box stood by & watched it happen .
Hatred comes from being abused continuously.
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"Maybe their logic is,if we teach kids how appealing we have behaved in Ireland, less people will sign up to go and fight over there?"
Hopefully logic will prevail and they might cop onto the fact that the fighting doesn't need to happen at all but I won't hold my breath. |
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"You have little idea why the IRA took to the streets in NI. It wasn’t a political point. It was because loyalists were killing and physically attacking catholics.
In the late 60s early 70’s they blatantly advertised jobs with the statement catholic’s need not apply.
They would physically attack catholics without fear of punishment or being arrested - because the police were all Protestants and would not follow up with arrests or criminal charges. Therefore the loyalists went on a violent spree when ever the mood took them. In one instance a group of men with bats snd clubs went into a factory on the falls road and beat every catholic they could find - it was a clothing manufacturing factory - 90% of the employees were women and they beat them mercilessly with clubs. They had locked all the doors so the women could not get out.
Read the story of the shankle butchers.
The violence that erupted in the 70’s and 80’s didn’t just arise out of a political desire for a free Ireland. It was the direct result of violence on the minority catholic populace.
There were civil rights marches at the start of the conflict. Yes - civil rights matches by catholics because they were living in fear.
The NI problem stems from the violence perpetrated on catholics. It’s very simple.
Correct... And with great irony the British Army were initially sent in to protect Catholics.
Even greater Irony
The 1st soldier killed, was by killed by loyalists .
You just have to look at the creggan development to se the
Scandolous gerrymandering that allowed protestant unionism to inflict Its will on Catholics in the 6 counties .
Your post appears to lack any accuracy. The first soldier killed was Gunner Curtis and the provisional IRA were held responsible for it . If the IRA has any valid campaign points they would have found these through the ballot box . Instead an organisation. supported by only a small minority fought a campaign based on vicious intimidation of local residents and sustained attacks on innocent people including civil servants, building contractors and members of the security forces who were simply doing their jobs .
I think youll find that Curtis was the 1st shot by the IRA .
The 1st soldier killed
Was 1 Hugh McCabe 2 years before Curtis .
That doesnt fit a British propaganda Story though.
You will find the 1st RUC man shot dead by para militaries was a man called Victor Arbuckle .
Shot by the Ulster Volunteer Force.
Ballot Box in Ulster .
Wind yer neck in fella .
Bombay street had no involvement other than loyalists walked in & burnt catholics out of there homes ,
Only to work on those houses round the clock for protestant families to be rehoused within a fortnight
.
The RUC & The British goverment via your precious ballot box stood by & watched it happen .
Hatred comes from being abused continuously.
Still you keep believing your FALSE HISTORY ."
However I do not thi k that that electorate of NI would agree with the version of history that you wish to publicise .
a. The electorate in NI have always been very greatfull of the substantial financial support from the UK.
b. There is a system of democracy in NI and most people respect it. As things stand parties that support the Union and in the majority and there is no fin evidence that a majority would support a United Ireland
c. Instead of accepting reality and recognising how little support they had the IRA resorted to a vicious campaign of violence , murder and intimidation. These people were simply cowards and criminals .
d. The British Forces in Northern Ireland were there to protect innocent people regardless of religion or political sympathies. Unlike the IRA , the Uk armed forces and police were fully accountable for everything that they did. |
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"You have little idea why the IRA took to the streets in NI. It wasn’t a political point. It was because loyalists were killing and physically attacking catholics.
In the late 60s early 70’s they blatantly advertised jobs with the statement catholic’s need not apply.
They would physically attack catholics without fear of punishment or being arrested - because the police were all Protestants and would not follow up with arrests or criminal charges. Therefore the loyalists went on a violent spree when ever the mood took them. In one instance a group of men with bats snd clubs went into a factory on the falls road and beat every catholic they could find - it was a clothing manufacturing factory - 90% of the employees were women and they beat them mercilessly with clubs. They had locked all the doors so the women could not get out.
Read the story of the shankle butchers.
The violence that erupted in the 70’s and 80’s didn’t just arise out of a political desire for a free Ireland. It was the direct result of violence on the minority catholic populace.
There were civil rights marches at the start of the conflict. Yes - civil rights matches by catholics because they were living in fear.
The NI problem stems from the violence perpetrated on catholics. It’s very simple.
Correct... And with great irony the British Army were initially sent in to protect Catholics.
Even greater Irony
The 1st soldier killed, was by killed by loyalists .
You just have to look at the creggan development to se the
Scandolous gerrymandering that allowed protestant unionism to inflict Its will on Catholics in the 6 counties .
Your post appears to lack any accuracy. The first soldier killed was Gunner Curtis and the provisional IRA were held responsible for it . If the IRA has any valid campaign points they would have found these through the ballot box . Instead an organisation. supported by only a small minority fought a campaign based on vicious intimidation of local residents and sustained attacks on innocent people including civil servants, building contractors and members of the security forces who were simply doing their jobs .
I think youll find that Curtis was the 1st shot by the IRA .
The 1st soldier killed
Was 1 Hugh McCabe 2 years before Curtis .
That doesnt fit a British propaganda Story though.
You will find the 1st RUC man shot dead by para militaries was a man called Victor Arbuckle .
Shot by the Ulster Volunteer Force.
Ballot Box in Ulster .
Wind yer neck in fella .
Bombay street had no involvement other than loyalists walked in & burnt catholics out of there homes ,
Only to work on those houses round the clock for protestant families to be rehoused within a fortnight
.
The RUC & The British goverment via your precious ballot box stood by & watched it happen .
Hatred comes from being abused continuously.
Still you keep believing your FALSE HISTORY . However I do not thi k that that electorate of NI would agree with the version of history that you wish to publicise .
a. The electorate in NI have always been very greatfull of the substantial financial support from the UK.
b. There is a system of democracy in NI and most people respect it. As things stand parties that support the Union and in the majority and there is no fin evidence that a majority would support a United Ireland
c. Instead of accepting reality and recognising how little support they had the IRA resorted to a vicious campaign of violence , murder and intimidation. These people were simply cowards and criminals .
d. The British Forces in Northern Ireland were there to protect innocent people regardless of religion or political sympathies. Unlike the IRA , the Uk armed forces and police were fully accountable for everything that they did. "
Oh you are a deluded soul arent you .
A. How can a voting system be right when a nationalist majority
In Derry had no voting power in the gerrymandered constituency ?
B. People do not respect government that abuses its powers .
C. The Provisionals & Sinn Fein had huge support .
You just have to look at the numbers of people who voted for Robert Sands MP & attended his funeral to see that .
D. The British armed forces were sent to the 6 counties
To proteft the Catholic community & then they stood by &
Watched the abuse . Hence why a para military force emerged to protect innocent people .
E. There will be a United Ireland & It IS coming Quicker than you think .
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"You have little idea why the IRA took to the streets in NI. It wasn’t a political point. It was because loyalists were killing and physically attacking catholics.
In the late 60s early 70’s they blatantly advertised jobs with the statement catholic’s need not apply.
They would physically attack catholics without fear of punishment or being arrested - because the police were all Protestants and would not follow up with arrests or criminal charges. Therefore the loyalists went on a violent spree when ever the mood took them. In one instance a group of men with bats snd clubs went into a factory on the falls road and beat every catholic they could find - it was a clothing manufacturing factory - 90% of the employees were women and they beat them mercilessly with clubs. They had locked all the doors so the women could not get out.
Read the story of the shankle butchers.
The violence that erupted in the 70’s and 80’s didn’t just arise out of a political desire for a free Ireland. It was the direct result of violence on the minority catholic populace.
There were civil rights marches at the start of the conflict. Yes - civil rights matches by catholics because they were living in fear.
The NI problem stems from the violence perpetrated on catholics. It’s very simple.
Correct... And with great irony the British Army were initially sent in to protect Catholics.
Even greater Irony
The 1st soldier killed, was by killed by loyalists .
You just have to look at the creggan development to se the
Scandolous gerrymandering that allowed protestant unionism to inflict Its will on Catholics in the 6 counties .
Your post appears to lack any accuracy. The first soldier killed was Gunner Curtis and the provisional IRA were held responsible for it . If the IRA has any valid campaign points they would have found these through the ballot box . Instead an organisation. supported by only a small minority fought a campaign based on vicious intimidation of local residents and sustained attacks on innocent people including civil servants, building contractors and members of the security forces who were simply doing their jobs .
I think youll find that Curtis was the 1st shot by the IRA .
The 1st soldier killed
Was 1 Hugh McCabe 2 years before Curtis .
That doesnt fit a British propaganda Story though.
You will find the 1st RUC man shot dead by para militaries was a man called Victor Arbuckle .
Shot by the Ulster Volunteer Force.
Ballot Box in Ulster .
Wind yer neck in fella .
Bombay street had no involvement other than loyalists walked in & burnt catholics out of there homes ,
Only to work on those houses round the clock for protestant families to be rehoused within a fortnight
.
The RUC & The British goverment via your precious ballot box stood by & watched it happen .
Hatred comes from being abused continuously.
Still you keep believing your FALSE HISTORY . However I do not thi k that that electorate of NI would agree with the version of history that you wish to publicise .
a. The electorate in NI have always been very greatfull of the substantial financial support from the UK.
b. There is a system of democracy in NI and most people respect it. As things stand parties that support the Union and in the majority and there is no fin evidence that a majority would support a United Ireland
c. Instead of accepting reality and recognising how little support they had the IRA resorted to a vicious campaign of violence , murder and intimidation. These people were simply cowards and criminals .
d. The British Forces in Northern Ireland were there to protect innocent people regardless of religion or political sympathies. Unlike the IRA , the Uk armed forces and police were fully accountable for everything that they did.
Oh you are a deluded soul arent you .
A. How can a voting system be right when a nationalist majority
In Derry had no voting power in the gerrymandered constituency ?
B. People do not respect government that abuses its powers .
C. The Provisionals & Sinn Fein had huge support .
You just have to look at the numbers of people who voted for Robert Sands MP & attended his funeral to see that .
D. The British armed forces were sent to the 6 counties
To proteft the Catholic community & then they stood by &
Watched the abuse . Hence why a para military force emerged to protect innocent people .
E. There will be a United Ireland & It IS coming Quicker than you think .
"
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"You have little idea why the IRA took to the streets in NI. It wasn’t a political point. It was because loyalists were killing and physically attacking catholics.
In the late 60s early 70’s they blatantly advertised jobs with the statement catholic’s need not apply.
They would physically attack catholics without fear of punishment or being arrested - because the police were all Protestants and would not follow up with arrests or criminal charges. Therefore the loyalists went on a violent spree when ever the mood took them. In one instance a group of men with bats snd clubs went into a factory on the falls road and beat every catholic they could find - it was a clothing manufacturing factory - 90% of the employees were women and they beat them mercilessly with clubs. They had locked all the doors so the women could not get out.
Read the story of the shankle butchers.
The violence that erupted in the 70’s and 80’s didn’t just arise out of a political desire for a free Ireland. It was the direct result of violence on the minority catholic populace.
There were civil rights marches at the start of the conflict. Yes - civil rights matches by catholics because they were living in fear.
The NI problem stems from the violence perpetrated on catholics. It’s very simple.
Correct... And with great irony the British Army were initially sent in to protect Catholics.
Even greater Irony
The 1st soldier killed, was by killed by loyalists .
You just have to look at the creggan development to se the
Scandolous gerrymandering that allowed protestant unionism to inflict Its will on Catholics in the 6 counties .
Your post appears to lack any accuracy. The first soldier killed was Gunner Curtis and the provisional IRA were held responsible for it . If the IRA has any valid campaign points they would have found these through the ballot box . Instead an organisation. supported by only a small minority fought a campaign based on vicious intimidation of local residents and sustained attacks on innocent people including civil servants, building contractors and members of the security forces who were simply doing their jobs .
I think youll find that Curtis was the 1st shot by the IRA .
The 1st soldier killed
Was 1 Hugh McCabe 2 years before Curtis .
That doesnt fit a British propaganda Story though.
You will find the 1st RUC man shot dead by para militaries was a man called Victor Arbuckle .
Shot by the Ulster Volunteer Force.
Ballot Box in Ulster .
Wind yer neck in fella .
Bombay street had no involvement other than loyalists walked in & burnt catholics out of there homes ,
Only to work on those houses round the clock for protestant families to be rehoused within a fortnight
.
The RUC & The British goverment via your precious ballot box stood by & watched it happen .
Hatred comes from being abused continuously.
Still you keep believing your FALSE HISTORY . However I do not thi k that that electorate of NI would agree with the version of history that you wish to publicise .
a. The electorate in NI have always been very greatfull of the substantial financial support from the UK.
b. There is a system of democracy in NI and most people respect it. As things stand parties that support the Union and in the majority and there is no fin evidence that a majority would support a United Ireland
c. Instead of accepting reality and recognising how little support they had the IRA resorted to a vicious campaign of violence , murder and intimidation. These people were simply cowards and criminals .
d. The British Forces in Northern Ireland were there to protect innocent people regardless of religion or political sympathies. Unlike the IRA , the Uk armed forces and police were fully accountable for everything that they did.
Oh you are a deluded soul arent you .
A. How can a voting system be right when a nationalist majority
In Derry had no voting power in the gerrymandered constituency ?
B. People do not respect government that abuses its powers .
C. The Provisionals & Sinn Fein had huge support .
You just have to look at the numbers of people who voted for Robert Sands MP & attended his funeral to see that .
D. The British armed forces were sent to the 6 counties
To proteft the Catholic community & then they stood by &
Watched the abuse . Hence why a para military force emerged to protect innocent people .
E. There will be a United Ireland & It IS coming Quicker than you think .
. Hello . I would much rather be considered to be deluded and support the forces of law and order than sympathise with terrorists. "
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"You have little idea why the IRA took to the streets in NI. It wasn’t a political point. It was because loyalists were killing and physically attacking catholics.
In the late 60s early 70’s they blatantly advertised jobs with the statement catholic’s need not apply.
They would physically attack catholics without fear of punishment or being arrested - because the police were all Protestants and would not follow up with arrests or criminal charges. Therefore the loyalists went on a violent spree when ever the mood took them. In one instance a group of men with bats snd clubs went into a factory on the falls road and beat every catholic they could find - it was a clothing manufacturing factory - 90% of the employees were women and they beat them mercilessly with clubs. They had locked all the doors so the women could not get out.
Read the story of the shankle butchers.
The violence that erupted in the 70’s and 80’s didn’t just arise out of a political desire for a free Ireland. It was the direct result of violence on the minority catholic populace.
There were civil rights marches at the start of the conflict. Yes - civil rights matches by catholics because they were living in fear.
The NI problem stems from the violence perpetrated on catholics. It’s very simple.
Correct... And with great irony the British Army were initially sent in to protect Catholics.
Even greater Irony
The 1st soldier killed, was by killed by loyalists .
You just have to look at the creggan development to se the
Scandolous gerrymandering that allowed protestant unionism to inflict Its will on Catholics in the 6 counties .
Your post appears to lack any accuracy. The first soldier killed was Gunner Curtis and the provisional IRA were held responsible for it . If the IRA has any valid campaign points they would have found these through the ballot box . Instead an organisation. supported by only a small minority fought a campaign based on vicious intimidation of local residents and sustained attacks on innocent people including civil servants, building contractors and members of the security forces who were simply doing their jobs .
I think youll find that Curtis was the 1st shot by the IRA .
The 1st soldier killed
Was 1 Hugh McCabe 2 years before Curtis .
That doesnt fit a British propaganda Story though.
You will find the 1st RUC man shot dead by para militaries was a man called Victor Arbuckle .
Shot by the Ulster Volunteer Force.
Ballot Box in Ulster .
Wind yer neck in fella .
Bombay street had no involvement other than loyalists walked in & burnt catholics out of there homes ,
Only to work on those houses round the clock for protestant families to be rehoused within a fortnight
.
The RUC & The British goverment via your precious ballot box stood by & watched it happen .
Hatred comes from being abused continuously.
Still you keep believing your FALSE HISTORY . However I do not thi k that that electorate of NI would agree with the version of history that you wish to publicise .
a. The electorate in NI have always been very greatfull of the substantial financial support from the UK.
b. There is a system of democracy in NI and most people respect it. As things stand parties that support the Union and in the majority and there is no fin evidence that a majority would support a United Ireland
c. Instead of accepting reality and recognising how little support they had the IRA resorted to a vicious campaign of violence , murder and intimidation. These people were simply cowards and criminals .
d. The British Forces in Northern Ireland were there to protect innocent people regardless of religion or political sympathies. Unlike the IRA , the Uk armed forces and police were fully accountable for everything that they did.
Oh you are a deluded soul arent you .
A. How can a voting system be right when a nationalist majority
In Derry had no voting power in the gerrymandered constituency ?
B. People do not respect government that abuses its powers .
C. The Provisionals & Sinn Fein had huge support .
You just have to look at the numbers of people who voted for Robert Sands MP & attended his funeral to see that .
D. The British armed forces were sent to the 6 counties
To proteft the Catholic community & then they stood by &
Watched the abuse . Hence why a para military force emerged to protect innocent people .
E. There will be a United Ireland & It IS coming Quicker than you think .
. Hello . I would much rather be considered to be deluded and support the forces of law and order than sympathise with terrorists.
Which terrorists in particular, the state sponsored ones, or the other ones?"
The ones not on our side obvs |
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"You have little idea why the IRA took to the streets in NI. It wasn’t a political point. It was because loyalists were killing and physically attacking catholics.
In the late 60s early 70’s they blatantly advertised jobs with the statement catholic’s need not apply.
They would physically attack catholics without fear of punishment or being arrested - because the police were all Protestants and would not follow up with arrests or criminal charges. Therefore the loyalists went on a violent spree when ever the mood took them. In one instance a group of men with bats snd clubs went into a factory on the falls road and beat every catholic they could find - it was a clothing manufacturing factory - 90% of the employees were women and they beat them mercilessly with clubs. They had locked all the doors so the women could not get out.
Read the story of the shankle butchers.
The violence that erupted in the 70’s and 80’s didn’t just arise out of a political desire for a free Ireland. It was the direct result of violence on the minority catholic populace.
There were civil rights marches at the start of the conflict. Yes - civil rights matches by catholics because they were living in fear.
The NI problem stems from the violence perpetrated on catholics. It’s very simple.
Correct... And with great irony the British Army were initially sent in to protect Catholics.
Even greater Irony
The 1st soldier killed, was by killed by loyalists .
You just have to look at the creggan development to se the
Scandolous gerrymandering that allowed protestant unionism to inflict Its will on Catholics in the 6 counties .
Your post appears to lack any accuracy. The first soldier killed was Gunner Curtis and the provisional IRA were held responsible for it . If the IRA has any valid campaign points they would have found these through the ballot box . Instead an organisation. supported by only a small minority fought a campaign based on vicious intimidation of local residents and sustained attacks on innocent people including civil servants, building contractors and members of the security forces who were simply doing their jobs .
I think youll find that Curtis was the 1st shot by the IRA .
The 1st soldier killed
Was 1 Hugh McCabe 2 years before Curtis .
That doesnt fit a British propaganda Story though.
You will find the 1st RUC man shot dead by para militaries was a man called Victor Arbuckle .
Shot by the Ulster Volunteer Force.
Ballot Box in Ulster .
Wind yer neck in fella .
Bombay street had no involvement other than loyalists walked in & burnt catholics out of there homes ,
Only to work on those houses round the clock for protestant families to be rehoused within a fortnight
.
The RUC & The British goverment via your precious ballot box stood by & watched it happen .
Hatred comes from being abused continuously.
Still you keep believing your FALSE HISTORY . However I do not thi k that that electorate of NI would agree with the version of history that you wish to publicise .
a. The electorate in NI have always been very greatfull of the substantial financial support from the UK.
b. There is a system of democracy in NI and most people respect it. As things stand parties that support the Union and in the majority and there is no fin evidence that a majority would support a United Ireland
c. Instead of accepting reality and recognising how little support they had the IRA resorted to a vicious campaign of violence , murder and intimidation. These people were simply cowards and criminals .
d. The British Forces in Northern Ireland were there to protect innocent people regardless of religion or political sympathies. Unlike the IRA , the Uk armed forces and police were fully accountable for everything that they did. "
Am ex military Pat, two tours in the province of and I can tell you categorically beyond any doubt that your last sentence about fully accountable is a complete and utter falsehood.. |
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"You have little idea why the IRA took to the streets in NI. It wasn’t a political point. It was because loyalists were killing and physically attacking catholics.
In the late 60s early 70’s they blatantly advertised jobs with the statement catholic’s need not apply.
They would physically attack catholics without fear of punishment or being arrested - because the police were all Protestants and would not follow up with arrests or criminal charges. Therefore the loyalists went on a violent spree when ever the mood took them. In one instance a group of men with bats snd clubs went into a factory on the falls road and beat every catholic they could find - it was a clothing manufacturing factory - 90% of the employees were women and they beat them mercilessly with clubs. They had locked all the doors so the women could not get out.
Read the story of the shankle butchers.
The violence that erupted in the 70’s and 80’s didn’t just arise out of a political desire for a free Ireland. It was the direct result of violence on the minority catholic populace.
There were civil rights marches at the start of the conflict. Yes - civil rights matches by catholics because they were living in fear.
The NI problem stems from the violence perpetrated on catholics. It’s very simple.
Correct... And with great irony the British Army were initially sent in to protect Catholics.
Even greater Irony
The 1st soldier killed, was by killed by loyalists .
You just have to look at the creggan development to se the
Scandolous gerrymandering that allowed protestant unionism to inflict Its will on Catholics in the 6 counties .
Your post appears to lack any accuracy. The first soldier killed was Gunner Curtis and the provisional IRA were held responsible for it . If the IRA has any valid campaign points they would have found these through the ballot box . Instead an organisation. supported by only a small minority fought a campaign based on vicious intimidation of local residents and sustained attacks on innocent people including civil servants, building contractors and members of the security forces who were simply doing their jobs .
I think youll find that Curtis was the 1st shot by the IRA .
The 1st soldier killed
Was 1 Hugh McCabe 2 years before Curtis .
That doesnt fit a British propaganda Story though.
You will find the 1st RUC man shot dead by para militaries was a man called Victor Arbuckle .
Shot by the Ulster Volunteer Force.
Ballot Box in Ulster .
Wind yer neck in fella .
Bombay street had no involvement other than loyalists walked in & burnt catholics out of there homes ,
Only to work on those houses round the clock for protestant families to be rehoused within a fortnight
.
The RUC & The British goverment via your precious ballot box stood by & watched it happen .
Hatred comes from being abused continuously.
Still you keep believing your FALSE HISTORY . However I do not thi k that that electorate of NI would agree with the version of history that you wish to publicise .
a. The electorate in NI have always been very greatfull of the substantial financial support from the UK.
b. There is a system of democracy in NI and most people respect it. As things stand parties that support the Union and in the majority and there is no fin evidence that a majority would support a United Ireland
c. Instead of accepting reality and recognising how little support they had the IRA resorted to a vicious campaign of violence , murder and intimidation. These people were simply cowards and criminals .
d. The British Forces in Northern Ireland were there to protect innocent people regardless of religion or political sympathies. Unlike the IRA , the Uk armed forces and police were fully accountable for everything that they did.
Oh you are a deluded soul arent you .
A. How can a voting system be right when a nationalist majority
In Derry had no voting power in the gerrymandered constituency ?
B. People do not respect government that abuses its powers .
C. The Provisionals & Sinn Fein had huge support .
You just have to look at the numbers of people who voted for Robert Sands MP & attended his funeral to see that .
D. The British armed forces were sent to the 6 counties
To proteft the Catholic community & then they stood by &
Watched the abuse . Hence why a para military force emerged to protect innocent people .
E. There will be a United Ireland & It IS coming Quicker than you think .
. Hello . I would much rather be considered to be deluded and support the forces of law and order than sympathise with terrorists. "
Your talking tripe, to recognise historical wrongs by a nation state is in no way to symphasise with any terrorist in the case in question be they green or orange..
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"You have little idea why the IRA took to the streets in NI. It wasn’t a political point. It was because loyalists were killing and physically attacking catholics.
In the late 60s early 70’s they blatantly advertised jobs with the statement catholic’s need not apply.
They would physically attack catholics without fear of punishment or being arrested - because the police were all Protestants and would not follow up with arrests or criminal charges. Therefore the loyalists went on a violent spree when ever the mood took them. In one instance a group of men with bats snd clubs went into a factory on the falls road and beat every catholic they could find - it was a clothing manufacturing factory - 90% of the employees were women and they beat them mercilessly with clubs. They had locked all the doors so the women could not get out.
Read the story of the shankle butchers.
The violence that erupted in the 70’s and 80’s didn’t just arise out of a political desire for a free Ireland. It was the direct result of violence on the minority catholic populace.
There were civil rights marches at the start of the conflict. Yes - civil rights matches by catholics because they were living in fear.
The NI problem stems from the violence perpetrated on catholics. It’s very simple.
Correct... And with great irony the British Army were initially sent in to protect Catholics.
Even greater Irony
The 1st soldier killed, was by killed by loyalists .
You just have to look at the creggan development to se the
Scandolous gerrymandering that allowed protestant unionism to inflict Its will on Catholics in the 6 counties .
Your post appears to lack any accuracy. The first soldier killed was Gunner Curtis and the provisional IRA were held responsible for it . If the IRA has any valid campaign points they would have found these through the ballot box . Instead an organisation. supported by only a small minority fought a campaign based on vicious intimidation of local residents and sustained attacks on innocent people including civil servants, building contractors and members of the security forces who were simply doing their jobs .
I think youll find that Curtis was the 1st shot by the IRA .
The 1st soldier killed
Was 1 Hugh McCabe 2 years before Curtis .
That doesnt fit a British propaganda Story though.
You will find the 1st RUC man shot dead by para militaries was a man called Victor Arbuckle .
Shot by the Ulster Volunteer Force.
Ballot Box in Ulster .
Wind yer neck in fella .
Bombay street had no involvement other than loyalists walked in & burnt catholics out of there homes ,
Only to work on those houses round the clock for protestant families to be rehoused within a fortnight
.
The RUC & The British goverment via your precious ballot box stood by & watched it happen .
Hatred comes from being abused continuously.
Still you keep believing your FALSE HISTORY . However I do not thi k that that electorate of NI would agree with the version of history that you wish to publicise .
a. The electorate in NI have always been very greatfull of the substantial financial support from the UK.
b. There is a system of democracy in NI and most people respect it. As things stand parties that support the Union and in the majority and there is no fin evidence that a majority would support a United Ireland
c. Instead of accepting reality and recognising how little support they had the IRA resorted to a vicious campaign of violence , murder and intimidation. These people were simply cowards and criminals .
d. The British Forces in Northern Ireland were there to protect innocent people regardless of religion or political sympathies. Unlike the IRA , the Uk armed forces and police were fully accountable for everything that they did. "
Are you just trolling now ? As the queen prepares a statement as we speak to give soldiers and RUC members immunity from prosecution for the slaughter of innocent civilians. Held accountable lol, no British army abroad has ever been held accountable for war crimes by its own government. |
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"You have little idea why the IRA took to the streets in NI. It wasn’t a political point. It was because loyalists were killing and physically attacking catholics.
In the late 60s early 70’s they blatantly advertised jobs with the statement catholic’s need not apply.
They would physically attack catholics without fear of punishment or being arrested - because the police were all Protestants and would not follow up with arrests or criminal charges. Therefore the loyalists went on a violent spree when ever the mood took them. In one instance a group of men with bats snd clubs went into a factory on the falls road and beat every catholic they could find - it was a clothing manufacturing factory - 90% of the employees were women and they beat them mercilessly with clubs. They had locked all the doors so the women could not get out.
Read the story of the shankle butchers.
The violence that erupted in the 70’s and 80’s didn’t just arise out of a political desire for a free Ireland. It was the direct result of violence on the minority catholic populace.
There were civil rights marches at the start of the conflict. Yes - civil rights matches by catholics because they were living in fear.
The NI problem stems from the violence perpetrated on catholics. It’s very simple.
Correct... And with great irony the British Army were initially sent in to protect Catholics.
Even greater Irony
The 1st soldier killed, was by killed by loyalists .
You just have to look at the creggan development to se the
Scandolous gerrymandering that allowed protestant unionism to inflict Its will on Catholics in the 6 counties .
Your post appears to lack any accuracy. The first soldier killed was Gunner Curtis and the provisional IRA were held responsible for it . If the IRA has any valid campaign points they would have found these through the ballot box . Instead an organisation. supported by only a small minority fought a campaign based on vicious intimidation of local residents and sustained attacks on innocent people including civil servants, building contractors and members of the security forces who were simply doing their jobs .
I think youll find that Curtis was the 1st shot by the IRA .
The 1st soldier killed
Was 1 Hugh McCabe 2 years before Curtis .
That doesnt fit a British propaganda Story though.
You will find the 1st RUC man shot dead by para militaries was a man called Victor Arbuckle .
Shot by the Ulster Volunteer Force.
Ballot Box in Ulster .
Wind yer neck in fella .
Bombay street had no involvement other than loyalists walked in & burnt catholics out of there homes ,
Only to work on those houses round the clock for protestant families to be rehoused within a fortnight
.
The RUC & The British goverment via your precious ballot box stood by & watched it happen .
Hatred comes from being abused continuously.
Still you keep believing your FALSE HISTORY . However I do not thi k that that electorate of NI would agree with the version of history that you wish to publicise .
a. The electorate in NI have always been very greatfull of the substantial financial support from the UK.
b. There is a system of democracy in NI and most people respect it. As things stand parties that support the Union and in the majority and there is no fin evidence that a majority would support a United Ireland
c. Instead of accepting reality and recognising how little support they had the IRA resorted to a vicious campaign of violence , murder and intimidation. These people were simply cowards and criminals .
d. The British Forces in Northern Ireland were there to protect innocent people regardless of religion or political sympathies. Unlike the IRA , the Uk armed forces and police were fully accountable for everything that they did.
Am ex military Pat, two tours in the province of and I can tell you categorically beyond any doubt that your last sentence about fully accountable is a complete and utter falsehood.."
. If you witnessed first hand events that in your opinion were unlawfully or unacceptable did you report it and if so what action was taken. ? Presumably you did not resign from your post . |
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"You have little idea why the IRA took to the streets in NI. It wasn’t a political point. It was because loyalists were killing and physically attacking catholics.
In the late 60s early 70’s they blatantly advertised jobs with the statement catholic’s need not apply.
They would physically attack catholics without fear of punishment or being arrested - because the police were all Protestants and would not follow up with arrests or criminal charges. Therefore the loyalists went on a violent spree when ever the mood took them. In one instance a group of men with bats snd clubs went into a factory on the falls road and beat every catholic they could find - it was a clothing manufacturing factory - 90% of the employees were women and they beat them mercilessly with clubs. They had locked all the doors so the women could not get out.
Read the story of the shankle butchers.
The violence that erupted in the 70’s and 80’s didn’t just arise out of a political desire for a free Ireland. It was the direct result of violence on the minority catholic populace.
There were civil rights marches at the start of the conflict. Yes - civil rights matches by catholics because they were living in fear.
The NI problem stems from the violence perpetrated on catholics. It’s very simple.
Correct... And with great irony the British Army were initially sent in to protect Catholics.
Even greater Irony
The 1st soldier killed, was by killed by loyalists .
You just have to look at the creggan development to se the
Scandolous gerrymandering that allowed protestant unionism to inflict Its will on Catholics in the 6 counties .
Your post appears to lack any accuracy. The first soldier killed was Gunner Curtis and the provisional IRA were held responsible for it . If the IRA has any valid campaign points they would have found these through the ballot box . Instead an organisation. supported by only a small minority fought a campaign based on vicious intimidation of local residents and sustained attacks on innocent people including civil servants, building contractors and members of the security forces who were simply doing their jobs .
I think youll find that Curtis was the 1st shot by the IRA .
The 1st soldier killed
Was 1 Hugh McCabe 2 years before Curtis .
That doesnt fit a British propaganda Story though.
You will find the 1st RUC man shot dead by para militaries was a man called Victor Arbuckle .
Shot by the Ulster Volunteer Force.
Ballot Box in Ulster .
Wind yer neck in fella .
Bombay street had no involvement other than loyalists walked in & burnt catholics out of there homes ,
Only to work on those houses round the clock for protestant families to be rehoused within a fortnight
.
The RUC & The British goverment via your precious ballot box stood by & watched it happen .
Hatred comes from being abused continuously.
Still you keep believing your FALSE HISTORY . However I do not thi k that that electorate of NI would agree with the version of history that you wish to publicise .
a. The electorate in NI have always been very greatfull of the substantial financial support from the UK.
b. There is a system of democracy in NI and most people respect it. As things stand parties that support the Union and in the majority and there is no fin evidence that a majority would support a United Ireland
c. Instead of accepting reality and recognising how little support they had the IRA resorted to a vicious campaign of violence , murder and intimidation. These people were simply cowards and criminals .
d. The British Forces in Northern Ireland were there to protect innocent people regardless of religion or political sympathies. Unlike the IRA , the Uk armed forces and police were fully accountable for everything that they did.
Are you just trolling now ? As the queen prepares a statement as we speak to give soldiers and RUC members immunity from prosecution for the slaughter of innocent civilians. Held accountable lol, no British army abroad has ever been held accountable for war crimes by its own government."
Maybe you should provide some evidence that the forces of law and order slaughtered innocent people. It looks like some people would like to re write history. The security forces were simply trying to preserve law and order The IRA were too cowardly to fight their campaign via a ballot box and simply ran a sustained terrorist campaign against innocent people and those doing their job. |
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"You have little idea why the IRA took to the streets in NI. It wasn’t a political point. It was because loyalists were killing and physically attacking catholics.
In the late 60s early 70’s they blatantly advertised jobs with the statement catholic’s need not apply.
They would physically attack catholics without fear of punishment or being arrested - because the police were all Protestants and would not follow up with arrests or criminal charges. Therefore the loyalists went on a violent spree when ever the mood took them. In one instance a group of men with bats snd clubs went into a factory on the falls road and beat every catholic they could find - it was a clothing manufacturing factory - 90% of the employees were women and they beat them mercilessly with clubs. They had locked all the doors so the women could not get out.
Read the story of the shankle butchers.
The violence that erupted in the 70’s and 80’s didn’t just arise out of a political desire for a free Ireland. It was the direct result of violence on the minority catholic populace.
There were civil rights marches at the start of the conflict. Yes - civil rights matches by catholics because they were living in fear.
The NI problem stems from the violence perpetrated on catholics. It’s very simple.
Correct... And with great irony the British Army were initially sent in to protect Catholics.
Even greater Irony
The 1st soldier killed, was by killed by loyalists .
You just have to look at the creggan development to se the
Scandolous gerrymandering that allowed protestant unionism to inflict Its will on Catholics in the 6 counties .
Your post appears to lack any accuracy. The first soldier killed was Gunner Curtis and the provisional IRA were held responsible for it . If the IRA has any valid campaign points they would have found these through the ballot box . Instead an organisation. supported by only a small minority fought a campaign based on vicious intimidation of local residents and sustained attacks on innocent people including civil servants, building contractors and members of the security forces who were simply doing their jobs .
I think youll find that Curtis was the 1st shot by the IRA .
The 1st soldier killed
Was 1 Hugh McCabe 2 years before Curtis .
That doesnt fit a British propaganda Story though.
You will find the 1st RUC man shot dead by para militaries was a man called Victor Arbuckle .
Shot by the Ulster Volunteer Force.
Ballot Box in Ulster .
Wind yer neck in fella .
Bombay street had no involvement other than loyalists walked in & burnt catholics out of there homes ,
Only to work on those houses round the clock for protestant families to be rehoused within a fortnight
.
The RUC & The British goverment via your precious ballot box stood by & watched it happen .
Hatred comes from being abused continuously.
Still you keep believing your FALSE HISTORY . However I do not thi k that that electorate of NI would agree with the version of history that you wish to publicise .
a. The electorate in NI have always been very greatfull of the substantial financial support from the UK.
b. There is a system of democracy in NI and most people respect it. As things stand parties that support the Union and in the majority and there is no fin evidence that a majority would support a United Ireland
c. Instead of accepting reality and recognising how little support they had the IRA resorted to a vicious campaign of violence , murder and intimidation. These people were simply cowards and criminals .
d. The British Forces in Northern Ireland were there to protect innocent people regardless of religion or political sympathies. Unlike the IRA , the Uk armed forces and police were fully accountable for everything that they did.
Oh you are a deluded soul arent you .
A. How can a voting system be right when a nationalist majority
In Derry had no voting power in the gerrymandered constituency ?
B. People do not respect government that abuses its powers .
C. The Provisionals & Sinn Fein had huge support .
You just have to look at the numbers of people who voted for Robert Sands MP & attended his funeral to see that .
D. The British armed forces were sent to the 6 counties
To proteft the Catholic community & then they stood by &
Watched the abuse . Hence why a para military force emerged to protect innocent people .
E. There will be a United Ireland & It IS coming Quicker than you think .
. Hello . I would much rather be considered to be deluded and support the forces of law and order than sympathise with terrorists.
Your talking tripe, to recognise historical wrongs by a nation state is in no way to symphasise with any terrorist in the case in question be they green or orange..
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. I would much prefer to be ( to use your terminology) considered to be talking tripe and condemn without reservation the various terrorist groups involved in the troubles. I would be surprised if the IRA kept detailed logs of the movements of their members and how they spent their days.
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"You have little idea why the IRA took to the streets in NI. It wasn’t a political point. It was because loyalists were killing and physically attacking catholics.
In the late 60s early 70’s they blatantly advertised jobs with the statement catholic’s need not apply.
They would physically attack catholics without fear of punishment or being arrested - because the police were all Protestants and would not follow up with arrests or criminal charges. Therefore the loyalists went on a violent spree when ever the mood took them. In one instance a group of men with bats snd clubs went into a factory on the falls road and beat every catholic they could find - it was a clothing manufacturing factory - 90% of the employees were women and they beat them mercilessly with clubs. They had locked all the doors so the women could not get out.
Read the story of the shankle butchers.
The violence that erupted in the 70’s and 80’s didn’t just arise out of a political desire for a free Ireland. It was the direct result of violence on the minority catholic populace.
There were civil rights marches at the start of the conflict. Yes - civil rights matches by catholics because they were living in fear.
The NI problem stems from the violence perpetrated on catholics. It’s very simple.
Correct... And with great irony the British Army were initially sent in to protect Catholics.
Even greater Irony
The 1st soldier killed, was by killed by loyalists .
You just have to look at the creggan development to se the
Scandolous gerrymandering that allowed protestant unionism to inflict Its will on Catholics in the 6 counties .
Your post appears to lack any accuracy. The first soldier killed was Gunner Curtis and the provisional IRA were held responsible for it . If the IRA has any valid campaign points they would have found these through the ballot box . Instead an organisation. supported by only a small minority fought a campaign based on vicious intimidation of local residents and sustained attacks on innocent people including civil servants, building contractors and members of the security forces who were simply doing their jobs .
I think youll find that Curtis was the 1st shot by the IRA .
The 1st soldier killed
Was 1 Hugh McCabe 2 years before Curtis .
That doesnt fit a British propaganda Story though.
You will find the 1st RUC man shot dead by para militaries was a man called Victor Arbuckle .
Shot by the Ulster Volunteer Force.
Ballot Box in Ulster .
Wind yer neck in fella .
Bombay street had no involvement other than loyalists walked in & burnt catholics out of there homes ,
Only to work on those houses round the clock for protestant families to be rehoused within a fortnight
.
The RUC & The British goverment via your precious ballot box stood by & watched it happen .
Hatred comes from being abused continuously.
Still you keep believing your FALSE HISTORY . However I do not thi k that that electorate of NI would agree with the version of history that you wish to publicise .
a. The electorate in NI have always been very greatfull of the substantial financial support from the UK.
b. There is a system of democracy in NI and most people respect it. As things stand parties that support the Union and in the majority and there is no fin evidence that a majority would support a United Ireland
c. Instead of accepting reality and recognising how little support they had the IRA resorted to a vicious campaign of violence , murder and intimidation. These people were simply cowards and criminals .
d. The British Forces in Northern Ireland were there to protect innocent people regardless of religion or political sympathies. Unlike the IRA , the Uk armed forces and police were fully accountable for everything that they did.
Oh you are a deluded soul arent you .
A. How can a voting system be right when a nationalist majority
In Derry had no voting power in the gerrymandered constituency ?
B. People do not respect government that abuses its powers .
C. The Provisionals & Sinn Fein had huge support .
You just have to look at the numbers of people who voted for Robert Sands MP & attended his funeral to see that .
D. The British armed forces were sent to the 6 counties
To proteft the Catholic community & then they stood by &
Watched the abuse . Hence why a para military force emerged to protect innocent people .
E. There will be a United Ireland & It IS coming Quicker than you think .
. Hello . I would much rather be considered to be deluded and support the forces of law and order than sympathise with terrorists. "
Take it from My Grand Father who served as A Catholic in the RUC
He later resigned as his complaints were never taken seriously as A Catholic Officer .
You talk about following Law & Order & yet
In Northern Ireland Law & Order had to have Special Category status , with Diplock Courts , with Special Category laws
To be able to lock up so called terrorists .
Some were then denied Special Category status in those
Prisons built specifically to hold them & they refused Clothing.
Hunger strikes followed & a Conflict that was ending messily soon had a New Violent Future .
In the U.K 3 trials were overturned as Injust because of
The purity of Law & Order .
The Guilford 4
The Birmingham Six &
Judith Ward .
There have been a number of Cases where some of those jailed
Have worked tirelessly to correct injustice by bringing to
Light the misdeeds of those who convicted innocent people .
The BridgeWater 4 also Engin Raghip and Mark Braithwaite
Wrongly convicted by a corrupt Law & order that you blindly follow .
However if it turns to Bodge Johnson & Law breaking or
Other Tory Scandal im not so sure you would voice up
With your Law & Order Cry .
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"You have little idea why the IRA took to the streets in NI. It wasn’t a political point. It was because loyalists were killing and physically attacking catholics.
In the late 60s early 70’s they blatantly advertised jobs with the statement catholic’s need not apply.
They would physically attack catholics without fear of punishment or being arrested - because the police were all Protestants and would not follow up with arrests or criminal charges. Therefore the loyalists went on a violent spree when ever the mood took them. In one instance a group of men with bats snd clubs went into a factory on the falls road and beat every catholic they could find - it was a clothing manufacturing factory - 90% of the employees were women and they beat them mercilessly with clubs. They had locked all the doors so the women could not get out.
Read the story of the shankle butchers.
The violence that erupted in the 70’s and 80’s didn’t just arise out of a political desire for a free Ireland. It was the direct result of violence on the minority catholic populace.
There were civil rights marches at the start of the conflict. Yes - civil rights matches by catholics because they were living in fear.
The NI problem stems from the violence perpetrated on catholics. It’s very simple.
Correct... And with great irony the British Army were initially sent in to protect Catholics.
Even greater Irony
The 1st soldier killed, was by killed by loyalists .
You just have to look at the creggan development to se the
Scandolous gerrymandering that allowed protestant unionism to inflict Its will on Catholics in the 6 counties .
Your post appears to lack any accuracy. The first soldier killed was Gunner Curtis and the provisional IRA were held responsible for it . If the IRA has any valid campaign points they would have found these through the ballot box . Instead an organisation. supported by only a small minority fought a campaign based on vicious intimidation of local residents and sustained attacks on innocent people including civil servants, building contractors and members of the security forces who were simply doing their jobs .
I think youll find that Curtis was the 1st shot by the IRA .
The 1st soldier killed
Was 1 Hugh McCabe 2 years before Curtis .
That doesnt fit a British propaganda Story though.
You will find the 1st RUC man shot dead by para militaries was a man called Victor Arbuckle .
Shot by the Ulster Volunteer Force.
Ballot Box in Ulster .
Wind yer neck in fella .
Bombay street had no involvement other than loyalists walked in & burnt catholics out of there homes ,
Only to work on those houses round the clock for protestant families to be rehoused within a fortnight
.
The RUC & The British goverment via your precious ballot box stood by & watched it happen .
Hatred comes from being abused continuously.
Still you keep believing your FALSE HISTORY . However I do not thi k that that electorate of NI would agree with the version of history that you wish to publicise .
a. The electorate in NI have always been very greatfull of the substantial financial support from the UK.
b. There is a system of democracy in NI and most people respect it. As things stand parties that support the Union and in the majority and there is no fin evidence that a majority would support a United Ireland
c. Instead of accepting reality and recognising how little support they had the IRA resorted to a vicious campaign of violence , murder and intimidation. These people were simply cowards and criminals .
d. The British Forces in Northern Ireland were there to protect innocent people regardless of religion or political sympathies. Unlike the IRA , the Uk armed forces and police were fully accountable for everything that they did.
Oh you are a deluded soul arent you .
A. How can a voting system be right when a nationalist majority
In Derry had no voting power in the gerrymandered constituency ?
B. People do not respect government that abuses its powers .
C. The Provisionals & Sinn Fein had huge support .
You just have to look at the numbers of people who voted for Robert Sands MP & attended his funeral to see that .
D. The British armed forces were sent to the 6 counties
To proteft the Catholic community & then they stood by &
Watched the abuse . Hence why a para military force emerged to protect innocent people .
E. There will be a United Ireland & It IS coming Quicker than you think .
. Hello . I would much rather be considered to be deluded and support the forces of law and order than sympathise with terrorists.
Take it from My Grand Father who served as A Catholic in the RUC
He later resigned as his complaints were never taken seriously as A Catholic Officer .
You talk about following Law & Order & yet
In Northern Ireland Law & Order had to have Special Category status , with Diplock Courts , with Special Category laws
To be able to lock up so called terrorists .
Some were then denied Special Category status in those
Prisons built specifically to hold them & they refused Clothing.
Hunger strikes followed & a Conflict that was ending messily soon had a New Violent Future .
In the U.K 3 trials were overturned as Injust because of
The purity of Law & Order .
The Guilford 4
The Birmingham Six &
Judith Ward .
There have been a number of Cases where some of those jailed
Have worked tirelessly to correct injustice by bringing to
Light the misdeeds of those who convicted innocent people .
The BridgeWater 4 also Engin Raghip and Mark Braithwaite
Wrongly convicted by a corrupt Law & order that you blindly follow .
However if it turns to Bodge Johnson & Law breaking or
Other Tory Scandal im not so sure you would voice up
With your Law & Order Cry .
"
What you fail to mention in any of these posts is that none of these miscarriages of justices would have happened had the IRA not carried out a sustained bombing campaign . Those responsible for the miscarriage of justice are the IRA in that while they knew who committed all these offences were still happy to see innocent people sent to prison. Did any IRA supporters step forward and advise the CPS that they were charging the wrong people. The IRA were happy to see the lives of innocent people destroyed provided they ( the IRA ) got off scott free . |
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"You have little idea why the IRA took to the streets in NI. It wasn’t a political point. It was because loyalists were killing and physically attacking catholics.
In the late 60s early 70’s they blatantly advertised jobs with the statement catholic’s need not apply.
They would physically attack catholics without fear of punishment or being arrested - because the police were all Protestants and would not follow up with arrests or criminal charges. Therefore the loyalists went on a violent spree when ever the mood took them. In one instance a group of men with bats snd clubs went into a factory on the falls road and beat every catholic they could find - it was a clothing manufacturing factory - 90% of the employees were women and they beat them mercilessly with clubs. They had locked all the doors so the women could not get out.
Read the story of the shankle butchers.
The violence that erupted in the 70’s and 80’s didn’t just arise out of a political desire for a free Ireland. It was the direct result of violence on the minority catholic populace.
There were civil rights marches at the start of the conflict. Yes - civil rights matches by catholics because they were living in fear.
The NI problem stems from the violence perpetrated on catholics. It’s very simple.
Correct... And with great irony the British Army were initially sent in to protect Catholics.
Even greater Irony
The 1st soldier killed, was by killed by loyalists .
You just have to look at the creggan development to se the
Scandolous gerrymandering that allowed protestant unionism to inflict Its will on Catholics in the 6 counties .
Your post appears to lack any accuracy. The first soldier killed was Gunner Curtis and the provisional IRA were held responsible for it . If the IRA has any valid campaign points they would have found these through the ballot box . Instead an organisation. supported by only a small minority fought a campaign based on vicious intimidation of local residents and sustained attacks on innocent people including civil servants, building contractors and members of the security forces who were simply doing their jobs .
I think youll find that Curtis was the 1st shot by the IRA .
The 1st soldier killed
Was 1 Hugh McCabe 2 years before Curtis .
That doesnt fit a British propaganda Story though.
You will find the 1st RUC man shot dead by para militaries was a man called Victor Arbuckle .
Shot by the Ulster Volunteer Force.
Ballot Box in Ulster .
Wind yer neck in fella .
Bombay street had no involvement other than loyalists walked in & burnt catholics out of there homes ,
Only to work on those houses round the clock for protestant families to be rehoused within a fortnight
.
The RUC & The British goverment via your precious ballot box stood by & watched it happen .
Hatred comes from being abused continuously.
Still you keep believing your FALSE HISTORY . However I do not thi k that that electorate of NI would agree with the version of history that you wish to publicise .
a. The electorate in NI have always been very greatfull of the substantial financial support from the UK.
b. There is a system of democracy in NI and most people respect it. As things stand parties that support the Union and in the majority and there is no fin evidence that a majority would support a United Ireland
c. Instead of accepting reality and recognising how little support they had the IRA resorted to a vicious campaign of violence , murder and intimidation. These people were simply cowards and criminals .
d. The British Forces in Northern Ireland were there to protect innocent people regardless of religion or political sympathies. Unlike the IRA , the Uk armed forces and police were fully accountable for everything that they did.
Oh you are a deluded soul arent you .
A. How can a voting system be right when a nationalist majority
In Derry had no voting power in the gerrymandered constituency ?
B. People do not respect government that abuses its powers .
C. The Provisionals & Sinn Fein had huge support .
You just have to look at the numbers of people who voted for Robert Sands MP & attended his funeral to see that .
D. The British armed forces were sent to the 6 counties
To proteft the Catholic community & then they stood by &
Watched the abuse . Hence why a para military force emerged to protect innocent people .
E. There will be a United Ireland & It IS coming Quicker than you think .
. Hello . I would much rather be considered to be deluded and support the forces of law and order than sympathise with terrorists.
Take it from My Grand Father who served as A Catholic in the RUC
He later resigned as his complaints were never taken seriously as A Catholic Officer .
You talk about following Law & Order & yet
In Northern Ireland Law & Order had to have Special Category status , with Diplock Courts , with Special Category laws
To be able to lock up so called terrorists .
Some were then denied Special Category status in those
Prisons built specifically to hold them & they refused Clothing.
Hunger strikes followed & a Conflict that was ending messily soon had a New Violent Future .
In the U.K 3 trials were overturned as Injust because of
The purity of Law & Order .
The Guilford 4
The Birmingham Six &
Judith Ward .
There have been a number of Cases where some of those jailed
Have worked tirelessly to correct injustice by bringing to
Light the misdeeds of those who convicted innocent people .
The BridgeWater 4 also Engin Raghip and Mark Braithwaite
Wrongly convicted by a corrupt Law & order that you blindly follow .
However if it turns to Bodge Johnson & Law breaking or
Other Tory Scandal im not so sure you would voice up
With your Law & Order Cry .
What you fail to mention in any of these posts is that none of these miscarriages of justices would have happened had the IRA not carried out a sustained bombing campaign . Those responsible for the miscarriage of justice are the IRA in that while they knew who committed all these offences were still happy to see innocent people sent to prison. Did any IRA supporters step forward and advise the CPS that they were charging the wrong people. The IRA were happy to see the lives of innocent people destroyed provided they ( the IRA ) got off scott free . "
What you Fail to Accept is had the British kept there Noses out of Ireland , There woukd never have been an IRA .
Official , Provisional , Real or Continuity .
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And Yes IRA members were arrested & the Identity of the
Real bombers was known as early as late 1973 early 1974 .
Again More Injustice bought to Ireland by the Terrorism of the British Empire ! |
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"And Yes IRA members were arrested & the Identity of the
Real bombers was known as early as late 1973 early 1974 .
Again More Injustice bought to Ireland by the Terrorism of the British Empire !"
The identity of the killers of 14 year old Phillip Rafferty who was abducted hooded beaten and shot several times by the loyalist UDA. The murders were named locally at the time but because of protections to those loyal to the British flag no action was taken by the RUC.
The night before, the same UDA gang had shot and killed another teenager, Peter Watterson. These were children not terrorist's.
I think you badly misread the reaction here to the historical prosecutions or lack of. The vast majority want those from all side guilty of murder to be held accountable. While on the Irish side we are still working hard to do so the British government now as it has done since its first venture into Irish soil had given British forces impunity to murder without fear of prosecution. There seems to be a misguided view that the IRA was welcomed by locals or those in the south, they certainly were not but simply put...what choice did they have after 70 years of trying for political reforms failed and Catholics were murdered for fun. Would you take that on the streets of London ? I think not |
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"And Yes IRA members were arrested & the Identity of the
Real bombers was known as early as late 1973 early 1974 .
Again More Injustice bought to Ireland by the Terrorism of the British Empire !
The identity of the killers of 14 year old Phillip Rafferty who was abducted hooded beaten and shot several times by the loyalist UDA. The murders were named locally at the time but because of protections to those loyal to the British flag no action was taken by the RUC.
The night before, the same UDA gang had shot and killed another teenager, Peter Watterson. These were children not terrorist's.
I think you badly misread the reaction here to the historical prosecutions or lack of. The vast majority want those from all side guilty of murder to be held accountable. While on the Irish side we are still working hard to do so the British government now as it has done since its first venture into Irish soil had given British forces impunity to murder without fear of prosecution. There seems to be a misguided view that the IRA was welcomed by locals or those in the south, they certainly were not but simply put...what choice did they have after 70 years of trying for political reforms failed and Catholics were murdered for fun. Would you take that on the streets of London ? I think not"
Being born in Belfast & being a non practicing Catholic
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"And Yes IRA members were arrested & the Identity of the
Real bombers was known as early as late 1973 early 1974 .
Again More Injustice bought to Ireland by the Terrorism of the British Empire !
The identity of the killers of 14 year old Phillip Rafferty who was abducted hooded beaten and shot several times by the loyalist UDA. The murders were named locally at the time but because of protections to those loyal to the British flag no action was taken by the RUC.
The night before, the same UDA gang had shot and killed another teenager, Peter Watterson. These were children not terrorist's.
I think you badly misread the reaction here to the historical prosecutions or lack of. The vast majority want those from all side guilty of murder to be held accountable. While on the Irish side we are still working hard to do so the British government now as it has done since its first venture into Irish soil had given British forces impunity to murder without fear of prosecution. There seems to be a misguided view that the IRA was welcomed by locals or those in the south, they certainly were not but simply put...what choice did they have after 70 years of trying for political reforms failed and Catholics were murdered for fun. Would you take that on the streets of London ? I think not
Being born in Belfast & being a non practicing Catholic
You really needed to explain any of that to me ?"
Slip of the finger there. The above reply was meant for "Ploughing the land". |
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"And Yes IRA members were arrested & the Identity of the
Real bombers was known as early as late 1973 early 1974 .
Again More Injustice bought to Ireland by the Terrorism of the British Empire !
The identity of the killers of 14 year old Phillip Rafferty who was abducted hooded beaten and shot several times by the loyalist UDA. The murders were named locally at the time but because of protections to those loyal to the British flag no action was taken by the RUC.
The night before, the same UDA gang had shot and killed another teenager, Peter Watterson. These were children not terrorist's.
I think you badly misread the reaction here to the historical prosecutions or lack of. The vast majority want those from all side guilty of murder to be held accountable. While on the Irish side we are still working hard to do so the British government now as it has done since its first venture into Irish soil had given British forces impunity to murder without fear of prosecution. There seems to be a misguided view that the IRA was welcomed by locals or those in the south, they certainly were not but simply put...what choice did they have after 70 years of trying for political reforms failed and Catholics were murdered for fun. Would you take that on the streets of London ? I think not
Being born in Belfast & being a non practicing Catholic
You really needed to explain any of that to me ?"
Also in my experience those from the area are as blind to the views of other side's involved in the conflict as those with no knowledge at all. Your attitude reflects this |
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"And Yes IRA members were arrested & the Identity of the
Real bombers was known as early as late 1973 early 1974 .
Again More Injustice bought to Ireland by the Terrorism of the British Empire !
The identity of the killers of 14 year old Phillip Rafferty who was abducted hooded beaten and shot several times by the loyalist UDA. The murders were named locally at the time but because of protections to those loyal to the British flag no action was taken by the RUC.
The night before, the same UDA gang had shot and killed another teenager, Peter Watterson. These were children not terrorist's.
I think you badly misread the reaction here to the historical prosecutions or lack of. The vast majority want those from all side guilty of murder to be held accountable. While on the Irish side we are still working hard to do so the British government now as it has done since its first venture into Irish soil had given British forces impunity to murder without fear of prosecution. There seems to be a misguided view that the IRA was welcomed by locals or those in the south, they certainly were not but simply put...what choice did they have after 70 years of trying for political reforms failed and Catholics were murdered for fun. Would you take that on the streets of London ? I think not"
. Despite what you state , it appears that only one side can be prosecuted. Many terrorists have letters from the government stating that they cannot be prosecuted , yet we are still pursuing members of the armed forces who were simply doing their jobs in very difficult circumstances.
Unlike the IRA , neither the RUC , UDR or the army spent every day trying to murder, threaten or intimidate innocent people .
Unable to gain any legitimate support , the IRA simply resorted to violence and intimidation. |
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"And Yes IRA members were arrested & the Identity of the
Real bombers was known as early as late 1973 early 1974 .
Again More Injustice bought to Ireland by the Terrorism of the British Empire !
The identity of the killers of 14 year old Phillip Rafferty who was abducted hooded beaten and shot several times by the loyalist UDA. The murders were named locally at the time but because of protections to those loyal to the British flag no action was taken by the RUC.
The night before, the same UDA gang had shot and killed another teenager, Peter Watterson. These were children not terrorist's.
I think you badly misread the reaction here to the historical prosecutions or lack of. The vast majority want those from all side guilty of murder to be held accountable. While on the Irish side we are still working hard to do so the British government now as it has done since its first venture into Irish soil had given British forces impunity to murder without fear of prosecution. There seems to be a misguided view that the IRA was welcomed by locals or those in the south, they certainly were not but simply put...what choice did they have after 70 years of trying for political reforms failed and Catholics were murdered for fun. Would you take that on the streets of London ? I think not. Despite what you state , it appears that only one side can be prosecuted. Many terrorists have letters from the government stating that they cannot be prosecuted , yet we are still pursuing members of the armed forces who were simply doing their jobs in very difficult circumstances.
Unlike the IRA , neither the RUC , UDR or the army spent every day trying to murder, threaten or intimidate innocent people .
Unable to gain any legitimate support , the IRA simply resorted to violence and intimidation. "
The last statement you made makes me doubt you have spent any time at all in the north. The IRA had support to the point of being supplied with arms by members of the Irish government the Spanish and various other states.
Member's of the British army murdered civilians in cold blood.
The Ballymurphy massacre was a series of incidents between 9 and 11 August 1971, in which the 1st Battalion, Parachute Regiment of the British Army killed eleven civilians in Ballymurphy as part of Operation Demetrius (internment without trial). But if you were from the north you would know this and many of the other civilian murders arranged carried out and covered up by the British army and the RUC
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"And Yes IRA members were arrested & the Identity of the
Real bombers was known as early as late 1973 early 1974 .
Again More Injustice bought to Ireland by the Terrorism of the British Empire !
The identity of the killers of 14 year old Phillip Rafferty who was abducted hooded beaten and shot several times by the loyalist UDA. The murders were named locally at the time but because of protections to those loyal to the British flag no action was taken by the RUC.
The night before, the same UDA gang had shot and killed another teenager, Peter Watterson. These were children not terrorist's.
I think you badly misread the reaction here to the historical prosecutions or lack of. The vast majority want those from all side guilty of murder to be held accountable. While on the Irish side we are still working hard to do so the British government now as it has done since its first venture into Irish soil had given British forces impunity to murder without fear of prosecution. There seems to be a misguided view that the IRA was welcomed by locals or those in the south, they certainly were not but simply put...what choice did they have after 70 years of trying for political reforms failed and Catholics were murdered for fun. Would you take that on the streets of London ? I think not. Despite what you state , it appears that only one side can be prosecuted. Many terrorists have letters from the government stating that they cannot be prosecuted , yet we are still pursuing members of the armed forces who were simply doing their jobs in very difficult circumstances.
Unlike the IRA , neither the RUC , UDR or the army spent every day trying to murder, threaten or intimidate innocent people .
Unable to gain any legitimate support , the IRA simply resorted to violence and intimidation.
The last statement you made makes me doubt you have spent any time at all in the north. The IRA had support to the point of being supplied with arms by members of the Irish government the Spanish and various other states.
Member's of the British army murdered civilians in cold blood.
The Ballymurphy massacre was a series of incidents between 9 and 11 August 1971, in which the 1st Battalion, Parachute Regiment of the British Army killed eleven civilians in Ballymurphy as part of Operation Demetrius (internment without trial). But if you were from the north you would know this and many of the other civilian murders arranged carried out and covered up by the British army and the RUC
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"And Yes IRA members were arrested & the Identity of the
Real bombers was known as early as late 1973 early 1974 .
Again More Injustice bought to Ireland by the Terrorism of the British Empire !
The identity of the killers of 14 year old Phillip Rafferty who was abducted hooded beaten and shot several times by the loyalist UDA. The murders were named locally at the time but because of protections to those loyal to the British flag no action was taken by the RUC.
The night before, the same UDA gang had shot and killed another teenager, Peter Watterson. These were children not terrorist's.
I think you badly misread the reaction here to the historical prosecutions or lack of. The vast majority want those from all side guilty of murder to be held accountable. While on the Irish side we are still working hard to do so the British government now as it has done since its first venture into Irish soil had given British forces impunity to murder without fear of prosecution. There seems to be a misguided view that the IRA was welcomed by locals or those in the south, they certainly were not but simply put...what choice did they have after 70 years of trying for political reforms failed and Catholics were murdered for fun. Would you take that on the streets of London ? I think not. Despite what you state , it appears that only one side can be prosecuted. Many terrorists have letters from the government stating that they cannot be prosecuted , yet we are still pursuing members of the armed forces who were simply doing their jobs in very difficult circumstances.
Unlike the IRA , neither the RUC , UDR or the army spent every day trying to murder, threaten or intimidate innocent people .
Unable to gain any legitimate support , the IRA simply resorted to violence and intimidation.
The last statement you made makes me doubt you have spent any time at all in the north. The IRA had support to the point of being supplied with arms by members of the Irish government the Spanish and various other states.
Member's of the British army murdered civilians in cold blood.
The Ballymurphy massacre was a series of incidents between 9 and 11 August 1971, in which the 1st Battalion, Parachute Regiment of the British Army killed eleven civilians in Ballymurphy as part of Operation Demetrius (internment without trial). But if you were from the north you would know this and many of the other civilian murders arranged carried out and covered up by the British army and the RUC
What makes your think that I am not from the North or have not experienced first hand the dangers presented from the IRA and their supporters ? "
What makes you think that law abiding citizens were not
Murdered abused by british backed & supported organisations ?
Still denying the role of Britain poking its nose
Into buisness they had no right to .
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"And Yes IRA members were arrested & the Identity of the
Real bombers was known as early as late 1973 early 1974 .
Again More Injustice bought to Ireland by the Terrorism of the British Empire !
The identity of the killers of 14 year old Phillip Rafferty who was abducted hooded beaten and shot several times by the loyalist UDA. The murders were named locally at the time but because of protections to those loyal to the British flag no action was taken by the RUC.
The night before, the same UDA gang had shot and killed another teenager, Peter Watterson. These were children not terrorist's.
I think you badly misread the reaction here to the historical prosecutions or lack of. The vast majority want those from all side guilty of murder to be held accountable. While on the Irish side we are still working hard to do so the British government now as it has done since its first venture into Irish soil had given British forces impunity to murder without fear of prosecution. There seems to be a misguided view that the IRA was welcomed by locals or those in the south, they certainly were not but simply put...what choice did they have after 70 years of trying for political reforms failed and Catholics were murdered for fun. Would you take that on the streets of London ? I think not. Despite what you state , it appears that only one side can be prosecuted. Many terrorists have letters from the government stating that they cannot be prosecuted , yet we are still pursuing members of the armed forces who were simply doing their jobs in very difficult circumstances.
Unlike the IRA , neither the RUC , UDR or the army spent every day trying to murder, threaten or intimidate innocent people .
Unable to gain any legitimate support , the IRA simply resorted to violence and intimidation.
The last statement you made makes me doubt you have spent any time at all in the north. The IRA had support to the point of being supplied with arms by members of the Irish government the Spanish and various other states.
Member's of the British army murdered civilians in cold blood.
The Ballymurphy massacre was a series of incidents between 9 and 11 August 1971, in which the 1st Battalion, Parachute Regiment of the British Army killed eleven civilians in Ballymurphy as part of Operation Demetrius (internment without trial). But if you were from the north you would know this and many of the other civilian murders arranged carried out and covered up by the British army and the RUC
What makes your think that I am not from the North or have not experienced first hand the dangers presented from the IRA and their supporters ?
What makes you think that law abiding citizens were not
Murdered abused by british backed & supported organisations ?
Still denying the role of Britain poking its nose
Into buisness they had no right to .
Go on Home "
If you took a slightly more objective approach you might find that the majority of the population in NI supported the forces of law and order who were only doing a job in trying to protect lives . |
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"And Yes IRA members were arrested & the Identity of the
Real bombers was known as early as late 1973 early 1974 .
Again More Injustice bought to Ireland by the Terrorism of the British Empire !
The identity of the killers of 14 year old Phillip Rafferty who was abducted hooded beaten and shot several times by the loyalist UDA. The murders were named locally at the time but because of protections to those loyal to the British flag no action was taken by the RUC.
The night before, the same UDA gang had shot and killed another teenager, Peter Watterson. These were children not terrorist's.
I think you badly misread the reaction here to the historical prosecutions or lack of. The vast majority want those from all side guilty of murder to be held accountable. While on the Irish side we are still working hard to do so the British government now as it has done since its first venture into Irish soil had given British forces impunity to murder without fear of prosecution. There seems to be a misguided view that the IRA was welcomed by locals or those in the south, they certainly were not but simply put...what choice did they have after 70 years of trying for political reforms failed and Catholics were murdered for fun. Would you take that on the streets of London ? I think not. Despite what you state , it appears that only one side can be prosecuted. Many terrorists have letters from the government stating that they cannot be prosecuted , yet we are still pursuing members of the armed forces who were simply doing their jobs in very difficult circumstances.
Unlike the IRA , neither the RUC , UDR or the army spent every day trying to murder, threaten or intimidate innocent people .
Unable to gain any legitimate support , the IRA simply resorted to violence and intimidation.
The last statement you made makes me doubt you have spent any time at all in the north. The IRA had support to the point of being supplied with arms by members of the Irish government the Spanish and various other states.
Member's of the British army murdered civilians in cold blood.
The Ballymurphy massacre was a series of incidents between 9 and 11 August 1971, in which the 1st Battalion, Parachute Regiment of the British Army killed eleven civilians in Ballymurphy as part of Operation Demetrius (internment without trial). But if you were from the north you would know this and many of the other civilian murders arranged carried out and covered up by the British army and the RUC
What makes your think that I am not from the North or have not experienced first hand the dangers presented from the IRA and their supporters ?
What makes you think that law abiding citizens were not
Murdered abused by british backed & supported organisations ?
Still denying the role of Britain poking its nose
Into buisness they had no right to .
Go on Home If you took a slightly more objective approach you might find that the majority of the population in NI supported the forces of law and order who were only doing a job in trying to protect lives . "
The Majority in The 6 counties is now Catholic .
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"And Yes IRA members were arrested & the Identity of the
Real bombers was known as early as late 1973 early 1974 .
Again More Injustice bought to Ireland by the Terrorism of the British Empire !
The identity of the killers of 14 year old Phillip Rafferty who was abducted hooded beaten and shot several times by the loyalist UDA. The murders were named locally at the time but because of protections to those loyal to the British flag no action was taken by the RUC.
The night before, the same UDA gang had shot and killed another teenager, Peter Watterson. These were children not terrorist's.
I think you badly misread the reaction here to the historical prosecutions or lack of. The vast majority want those from all side guilty of murder to be held accountable. While on the Irish side we are still working hard to do so the British government now as it has done since its first venture into Irish soil had given British forces impunity to murder without fear of prosecution. There seems to be a misguided view that the IRA was welcomed by locals or those in the south, they certainly were not but simply put...what choice did they have after 70 years of trying for political reforms failed and Catholics were murdered for fun. Would you take that on the streets of London ? I think not. Despite what you state , it appears that only one side can be prosecuted. Many terrorists have letters from the government stating that they cannot be prosecuted , yet we are still pursuing members of the armed forces who were simply doing their jobs in very difficult circumstances.
Unlike the IRA , neither the RUC , UDR or the army spent every day trying to murder, threaten or intimidate innocent people .
Unable to gain any legitimate support , the IRA simply resorted to violence and intimidation.
The last statement you made makes me doubt you have spent any time at all in the north. The IRA had support to the point of being supplied with arms by members of the Irish government the Spanish and various other states.
Member's of the British army murdered civilians in cold blood.
The Ballymurphy massacre was a series of incidents between 9 and 11 August 1971, in which the 1st Battalion, Parachute Regiment of the British Army killed eleven civilians in Ballymurphy as part of Operation Demetrius (internment without trial). But if you were from the north you would know this and many of the other civilian murders arranged carried out and covered up by the British army and the RUC
What makes your think that I am not from the North or have not experienced first hand the dangers presented from the IRA and their supporters ?
What makes you think that law abiding citizens were not
Murdered abused by british backed & supported organisations ?
Still denying the role of Britain poking its nose
Into buisness they had no right to .
Go on Home If you took a slightly more objective approach you might find that the majority of the population in NI supported the forces of law and order who were only doing a job in trying to protect lives . "
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"And Yes IRA members were arrested & the Identity of the
Real bombers was known as early as late 1973 early 1974 .
Again More Injustice bought to Ireland by the Terrorism of the British Empire !
The identity of the killers of 14 year old Phillip Rafferty who was abducted hooded beaten and shot several times by the loyalist UDA. The murders were named locally at the time but because of protections to those loyal to the British flag no action was taken by the RUC.
The night before, the same UDA gang had shot and killed another teenager, Peter Watterson. These were children not terrorist's.
I think you badly misread the reaction here to the historical prosecutions or lack of. The vast majority want those from all side guilty of murder to be held accountable. While on the Irish side we are still working hard to do so the British government now as it has done since its first venture into Irish soil had given British forces impunity to murder without fear of prosecution. There seems to be a misguided view that the IRA was welcomed by locals or those in the south, they certainly were not but simply put...what choice did they have after 70 years of trying for political reforms failed and Catholics were murdered for fun. Would you take that on the streets of London ? I think not. Despite what you state , it appears that only one side can be prosecuted. Many terrorists have letters from the government stating that they cannot be prosecuted , yet we are still pursuing members of the armed forces who were simply doing their jobs in very difficult circumstances.
Unlike the IRA , neither the RUC , UDR or the army spent every day trying to murder, threaten or intimidate innocent people .
Unable to gain any legitimate support , the IRA simply resorted to violence and intimidation.
The last statement you made makes me doubt you have spent any time at all in the north. The IRA had support to the point of being supplied with arms by members of the Irish government the Spanish and various other states.
Member's of the British army murdered civilians in cold blood.
The Ballymurphy massacre was a series of incidents between 9 and 11 August 1971, in which the 1st Battalion, Parachute Regiment of the British Army killed eleven civilians in Ballymurphy as part of Operation Demetrius (internment without trial). But if you were from the north you would know this and many of the other civilian murders arranged carried out and covered up by the British army and the RUC
What makes your think that I am not from the North or have not experienced first hand the dangers presented from the IRA and their supporters ?
What makes you think that law abiding citizens were not
Murdered abused by british backed & supported organisations ?
Still denying the role of Britain poking its nose
Into buisness they had no right to .
Go on Home If you took a slightly more objective approach you might find that the majority of the population in NI supported the forces of law and order who were only doing a job in trying to protect lives .
The Majority in The 6 counties is now Catholic .
Are you sure you know what you are talking about ?"
. It is difficult to see what possible relevance religion has as to whether you support the forces of law and order. Religion and politics are not necessary related concepts. |
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