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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It’s a state owned building, he’s there only for a limited time, why should he pay?
Do you know if the refurbishments were necessary?
Do you?"
I have no idea |
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By *renzMan
over a year ago
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"It’s a state owned building, he’s there only for a limited time, why should he pay?
Do you know if the refurbishments were necessary?
Do you?
I have no idea "
I doubt many do. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It’s a state owned building, he’s there only for a limited time, why should he pay?
Do you know if the refurbishments were necessary?
Do you?"
What I do know is that he gets £30,000 allowance for refurbishments and he spent £200,000 |
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By *renzMan
over a year ago
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"It’s a state owned building, he’s there only for a limited time, why should he pay?
Do you know if the refurbishments were necessary?
Do you?
What I do know is that he gets £30,000 allowance for refurbishments and he spent £200,000 "
Perhaps he has been saving? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It’s a state owned building, he’s there only for a limited time, why should he pay?
Do you know if the refurbishments were necessary?
Do you?
What I do know is that he gets £30,000 allowance for refurbishments and he spent £200,000
Perhaps he has been saving? "
Maybe, if he wants to spend £200,000 on his flat then that’s up to him, let’s hope he can account for the other £170,000 |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think with what’s going on in the world it’s pathetic that someone has got time to look into this , who really cares ???"
It’s down to honesty and integrity and the ministerial code |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It’s a state owned building, he’s there only for a limited time, why should he pay?
Do you know if the refurbishments were necessary?
Do you?
What I do know is that he gets £30,000 allowance for refurbishments and he spent £200,000
Perhaps he has been saving? "
Do you think the figure has been made up? |
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"I think with what’s going on in the world it’s pathetic that someone has got time to look into this , who really cares ???"
Equally the pm running the country during a pandemic has the time to do a makeover on where is he living. |
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"I think with what’s going on in the world it’s pathetic that someone has got time to look into this , who really cares ???
Equally the pm running the country during a pandemic has the time to do a makeover on where is he living."
For £200,000 |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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"And he's paid for it himself in full. Next story. 
But people think he was given the money first and didn't declare it"
When they prove that 'thinking' then it's a story. Otherwise, 'next story'. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"And he's paid for it himself in full. Next story.
But people think he was given the money first and didn't declare it
When they prove that 'thinking' then it's a story. Otherwise, 'next story'."
Can you prove he ‘paid for it all himself ‘ ? |
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"I think with what’s going on in the world it’s pathetic that someone has got time to look into this , who really cares ???
Equally the pm running the country during a pandemic has the time to do a makeover on where is he living."
He didn’t do it! My mate Stevie was the painter, he’s got a load of paint to move on (cash) if any takers? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"And he's paid for it himself in full. Next story.
Do you know that for a fact?
Yes. And so should you, if you had bothered to get the whole story not just half a headline."
Your basing this ‘fact’ on what information? There is going to be an investigation until then your guessing |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think with what’s going on in the world it’s pathetic that someone has got time to look into this , who really cares ???
Equally the pm running the country during a pandemic has the time to do a makeover on where is he living.
He didn’t do it! My mate Stevie was the painter, he’s got a load of paint to move on (cash) if any takers? "
What colour is it |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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"Boris was worried he couldn't afford a nanny for his baby on his salary as PM. Now a year later he has a spare £200k ?"
Geeesus! More drama to add to it. Did the colour of the ministerial car have an effect on the outcome? |
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"And he's paid for it himself in full. Next story.
Do you know that for a fact?
Yes. And so should you, if you had bothered to get the whole story not just half a headline."
As you know for a fact he paid for it himself you should tell the parliamentary investigators and save them a few weeks of research. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"And he's paid for it himself in full. Next story.
Do you know that for a fact?
Yes. And so should you, if you had bothered to get the whole story not just half a headline.
As you know for a fact he paid for it himself you should tell the parliamentary investigators and save them a few weeks of research. "
Exactly, save time and money on an investigation |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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"And he's paid for it himself in full. Next story.
Do you know that for a fact?
Yes. And so should you, if you had bothered to get the whole story not just half a headline.
Your basing this ‘fact’ on what information? There is going to be an investigation until then your guessing "
Read what I wrote again.
"Yes. And so should you, if you had bothered to get the whole story not just half a headline."
I'm not your nanny go find the info' for yourself. Then you won't be guessing any more. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"And he's paid for it himself in full. Next story.
Do you know that for a fact?
Yes. And so should you, if you had bothered to get the whole story not just half a headline.
Your basing this ‘fact’ on what information? There is going to be an investigation until then your guessing
Read what I wrote again.
"Yes. And so should you, if you had bothered to get the whole story not just half a headline."
I'm not your nanny go find the info' for yourself. Then you won't be guessing any more."
So you don’t know for a fact then? |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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"And he's paid for it himself in full. Next story.
Do you know that for a fact?
Yes. And so should you, if you had bothered to get the whole story not just half a headline.
As you know for a fact he paid for it himself you should tell the parliamentary investigators and save them a few weeks of research. "
They are not investigating if he's paid for it, they are investigating the process by which it was paid for.
But when all said and done it has been paid for by the PM. |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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"And he's paid for it himself in full. Next story.
Do you know that for a fact?
Yes. And so should you, if you had bothered to get the whole story not just half a headline.
Your basing this ‘fact’ on what information? There is going to be an investigation until then your guessing
Read what I wrote again.
"Yes. And so should you, if you had bothered to get the whole story not just half a headline."
I'm not your nanny go find the info' for yourself. Then you won't be guessing any more.
So you don’t know for a fact then? "
Yes. I do, and you should know to if you got the whole story and not half a drama headline.
Next. |
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"And he's paid for it himself in full. Next story.
But people think he was given the money first and didn't declare it
When they prove that 'thinking' then it's a story. Otherwise, 'next story'."
Of course he could sort it by releasing what information is required as per ministerial codes etc but as we've seen with other issues he will deny, film flam, deflect and lie before the facts are squeezed out..
He's a serial liar, that people actually trust a person with his track record is a sign of the mess we have in our politics ..
He has lied on umpteen occasions from the despatch box, it's now normal for him to lie and it be fact checked by independent bodies and yet it's left on the record ..
That's the level of the mire..
They all make mistakes and embellish in that office but we do seem to be at a new low.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"And he's paid for it himself in full. Next story.
Do you know that for a fact?
Yes. And so should you, if you had bothered to get the whole story not just half a headline.
Your basing this ‘fact’ on what information? There is going to be an investigation until then your guessing
Read what I wrote again.
"Yes. And so should you, if you had bothered to get the whole story not just half a headline."
I'm not your nanny go find the info' for yourself. Then you won't be guessing any more.
So you don’t know for a fact then?
Yes. I do, and you should know to if you got the whole story and not half a drama headline.
Next."
No point in an investigation then because you know for a ‘fact’ what a waste of time . |
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"200,000 is such a round figure. Difficult to do I would imagine."
Lol
I imagine it's one of those "real figure is £124,875 but if we deny its 200,000 we will have to give the real figure" type situations.
All rather rubbish journalism, Bill Deedes and the old titans of Fleet Street are turning in their graves. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If someone gives me a pound and says treat yourself to a Grab Bag of Monster Munch and I hand the pound to the shopkeeper, who has actually paid for the Monster Munch ? "
Difficult one to answer, we’re you given the pound by Tory party donors ? |
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Difficult one to answer, we’re you given the pound by Tory party donors ? "
Yes and the terms of my contract of employment say I should declare every pound given to me and I didn't. Surely I can just say it was an honest oversight ? |
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"I honestly don’t care where the money came from. (Within reason) our Prime minister should live in a bit of comfort.
Just tell the truth that’s the issue here. Too much obsfucation.
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This..
It's what's going on behind it all which has led to this and the other stories and whatever comes next.. |
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"And he's paid for it himself in full. Next story.
Do you know that for a fact?
Yes. And so should you, if you had bothered to get the whole story not just half a headline.
Your basing this ‘fact’ on what information? There is going to be an investigation until then your guessing
Read what I wrote again.
"Yes. And so should you, if you had bothered to get the whole story not just half a headline."
I'm not your nanny go find the info' for yourself. Then you won't be guessing any more.
So you don’t know for a fact then?
Yes. I do, and you should know to if you got the whole story and not half a drama headline.
Next.
No point in an investigation then because you know for a ‘fact’ what a waste of time . "
Unless my memory is playing tricks on me ,I distinctly remember a full thread on sturgeon being accused of something similar.
Obviously however, in this instance, it's a non story. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Difficult one to answer, we’re you given the pound by Tory party donors ?
Yes and the terms of my contract of employment say I should declare every pound given to me and I didn't. Surely I can just say it was an honest oversight ?"
Maybe, it doesn’t look good though, do you hold a position that requires the utmost honesty and integrity? For example a government minister or the PM |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"And he's paid for it himself in full. Next story.
Do you know that for a fact?
Yes. And so should you, if you had bothered to get the whole story not just half a headline.
Your basing this ‘fact’ on what information? There is going to be an investigation until then your guessing
Read what I wrote again.
"Yes. And so should you, if you had bothered to get the whole story not just half a headline."
I'm not your nanny go find the info' for yourself. Then you won't be guessing any more.
So you don’t know for a fact then?
Yes. I do, and you should know to if you got the whole story and not half a drama headline.
Next.
No point in an investigation then because you know for a ‘fact’ what a waste of time .
Unless my memory is playing tricks on me ,I distinctly remember a full thread on sturgeon being accused of something similar.
Obviously however, in this instance, it's a non story."
Indeed, I remember the same, i should have a look into the archives, there is no place for hypocrisy on here  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Just a thought, as the PM has paid for the work for himself, he must be planning to be in the flat for some time to come.
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He had to do the refurb because Princess Nut Nuts wasn’t happy with the old decor, |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Just a thought, as the PM has paid for the work for himself, he must be planning to be in the flat for some time to come.
Well if the papers are anything to go by,he could be in for a shock."
Tbh, he isn’t the brightest |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"He said the John Lewis furniture wasn't good enough.
He's NOT allowed to have personal preferences. What is this Communist China.?"
Who said he wasn’t allowed ‘personal preferences’? |
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By *renzMan
over a year ago
Between Chichester and Havant |
"It’s a state owned building, he’s there only for a limited time, why should he pay?
Do you know if the refurbishments were necessary?
Do you?
What I do know is that he gets £30,000 allowance for refurbishments and he spent £200,000
Perhaps he has been saving?
Do you think the figure has been made up? "
I do. To get the spending spot on 200,000 would be difficult to do. |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"It’s a state owned building, he’s there only for a limited time, why should he pay?
Do you know if the refurbishments were necessary?
Do you?
What I do know is that he gets £30,000 allowance for refurbishments and he spent £200,000 "
Maybe he thought it was PPE?? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It’s a state owned building, he’s there only for a limited time, why should he pay?
Do you know if the refurbishments were necessary?
Do you?
What I do know is that he gets £30,000 allowance for refurbishments and he spent £200,000
Perhaps he has been saving?
Do you think the figure has been made up?
I do. To get the spending spot on 200,000 would be difficult to do."
Maybe they rounded it up? If that’s the case then the story is obviously false, bloody idiots rounding up numbers |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"He said the John Lewis furniture wasn't good enough.
He's NOT allowed to have personal preferences. What is this Communist China.?"
I actually think no!!
He should take the office of PM and if it’s a suitable flat then suck it up!! If it needs a repaint fine but £30 k each PM that’s nuts!!
The state should maintain the flat and he should have no say. It’s bloody free!! ( tax excepted) |
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"It’s a state owned building, he’s there only for a limited time, why should he pay?
Do you know if the refurbishments were necessary?
Do you?
What I do know is that he gets £30,000 allowance for refurbishments and he spent £200,000
Maybe he thought it was PPE?? "
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By *renzMan
over a year ago
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"It’s a state owned building, he’s there only for a limited time, why should he pay?
Do you know if the refurbishments were necessary?
Do you?
What I do know is that he gets £30,000 allowance for refurbishments and he spent £200,000
Perhaps he has been saving?
Do you think the figure has been made up?
I do. To get the spending spot on 200,000 would be difficult to do.
Maybe they rounded it up? If that’s the case then the story is obviously false, bloody idiots rounding up numbers "
Rounding it up from what though? 199,999? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It’s a state owned building, he’s there only for a limited time, why should he pay?
Do you know if the refurbishments were necessary?
Do you?
What I do know is that he gets £30,000 allowance for refurbishments and he spent £200,000
Perhaps he has been saving?
Do you think the figure has been made up?
I do. To get the spending spot on 200,000 would be difficult to do.
Maybe they rounded it up? If that’s the case then the story is obviously false, bloody idiots rounding up numbers
Rounding it up from what though? 199,999?"
I have no idea |
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"It’s a state owned building, he’s there only for a limited time, why should he pay?
Do you know if the refurbishments were necessary?
Do you?
What I do know is that he gets £30,000 allowance for refurbishments and he spent £200,000
Perhaps he has been saving?
Do you think the figure has been made up?
I do. To get the spending spot on 200,000 would be difficult to do.
Maybe they rounded it up? If that’s the case then the story is obviously false, bloody idiots rounding up numbers
Rounding it up from what though? 199,999?"
From what I have seen reported the cost was 60k for the refurbishments, where does the 200k figure come from? That seems a bit of a high figure for a refurb, even a posh one surely. |
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"It’s a state owned building, he’s there only for a limited time, why should he pay?
Do you know if the refurbishments were necessary?
Do you?
What I do know is that he gets £30,000 allowance for refurbishments and he spent £200,000
Perhaps he has been saving?
Do you think the figure has been made up?
I do. To get the spending spot on 200,000 would be difficult to do.
Maybe they rounded it up? If that’s the case then the story is obviously false, bloody idiots rounding up numbers
Rounding it up from what though? 199,999?
From what I have seen reported the cost was 60k for the refurbishments, where does the 200k figure come from? That seems a bit of a high figure for a refurb, even a posh one surely."
There have been numerous sources for the 200k
Didnt they hire some top designer? |
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Just done some digging and it seems this 200k is just what some journalists are speculating it may have cost, not a actual amount,so guess until the true figures get published or disclosed then nobody knows. |
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"It’s a state owned building, he’s there only for a limited time, why should he pay?
Do you know if the refurbishments were necessary?
Do you?
What I do know is that he gets £30,000 allowance for refurbishments and he spent £200,000
Perhaps he has been saving?
Do you think the figure has been made up?
I do. To get the spending spot on 200,000 would be difficult to do.
Maybe they rounded it up? If that’s the case then the story is obviously false, bloody idiots rounding up numbers
Rounding it up from what though? 199,999?
From what I have seen reported the cost was 60k for the refurbishments, where does the 200k figure come from? That seems a bit of a high figure for a refurb, even a posh one surely.
There have been numerous sources for the 200k
Didnt they hire some top designer?"
Yes apparently so, and yes there are lots of sources but it is still a speculated figure and not a factual one at this time. |
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"Just done some digging and it seems this 200k is just what some journalists are speculating it may have cost, not a actual amount,so guess until the true figures get published or disclosed then nobody knows."
I doubt they have just plucked the figure from nowhere
If he has nothing to hide, why doesnt he just disclose the amount and where he got it from? |
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"Just done some digging and it seems this 200k is just what some journalists are speculating it may have cost, not a actual amount,so guess until the true figures get published or disclosed then nobody knows.
I doubt they have just plucked the figure from nowhere
If he has nothing to hide, why doesnt he just disclose the amount and where he got it from?"
I am sure he will be forced to in the end, why he hasn't already done so if he has nothing to hide i have no idea. Going back to the figure, it seems it has just been plucked from the air, every source I have seen including the BBC all say its speculated. |
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"Just done some digging and it seems this 200k is just what some journalists are speculating it may have cost, not a actual amount,so guess until the true figures get published or disclosed then nobody knows.
I doubt they have just plucked the figure from nowhere
If he has nothing to hide, why doesnt he just disclose the amount and where he got it from?"
The ‘money was just resting in my account’ Father Ted style |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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"Just done some digging and it seems this 200k is just what some journalists are speculating it may have cost, not a actual amount,so guess until the true figures get published or disclosed then nobody knows.
I doubt they have just plucked the figure from nowhere
If he has nothing to hide, why doesnt he just disclose the amount and where he got it from?"
Seriously? Journalists just picking a random number? Yea that's got mileage. Imagine them doing that? |
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"Just done some digging and it seems this 200k is just what some journalists are speculating it may have cost, not a actual amount,so guess until the true figures get published or disclosed then nobody knows.
I doubt they have just plucked the figure from nowhere
If he has nothing to hide, why doesnt he just disclose the amount and where he got it from?
Seriously? Journalists just picking a random number? Yea that's got mileage. Imagine them doing that?"
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By *renzMan
over a year ago
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"It’s a state owned building, he’s there only for a limited time, why should he pay?
Do you know if the refurbishments were necessary?
Do you?
What I do know is that he gets £30,000 allowance for refurbishments and he spent £200,000
Perhaps he has been saving?
Do you think the figure has been made up?
I do. To get the spending spot on 200,000 would be difficult to do.
Maybe they rounded it up? If that’s the case then the story is obviously false, bloody idiots rounding up numbers
Rounding it up from what though? 199,999?
I have no idea "
But all the way through this thread, you've quoted £200,000.
Throws your integrity into doubt. |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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He knew the rules and he knew the budget allowance.
What this story really articulates is just how entitled he and Carrie think they are by spending tens of thousands over the allowance on a place they don’t own and are only likely to be residing for 5 (maybe 10) years.
I actually think Johnson didn’t give a monkeys about the refurb, but he just let Carrie rip through it and is now paying the price in more ways than one. |
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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago
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"It’s a state owned building, he’s there only for a limited time, why should he pay? "
my council flat is a state owned building when we moved in we got a £200 allowance to re decorate if we wanted to spend more guess what it came out of our pocket .his choice to spend over his £30k alowance if he ain't got it he should "live within his means" to qoute the Tory mantra
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"He knew the rules and he knew the budget allowance.
What this story really articulates is just how entitled he and Carrie think they are by spending tens of thousands over the allowance on a place they don’t own and are only likely to be residing for 5 (maybe 10) years.
I actually think Johnson didn’t give a monkeys about the refurb, but he just let Carrie rip through it and is now paying the price in more ways than one."
Yes I agree with the entitled comment.
What will be amusing is after the nightmare of his Brexit deal , the huge number of unnecessary deaths with Covid then the billions given to his friends on PPE his downfall might be a few chippies and some painters giving his temporary flat a makeover! Bizarre.
Looks like he’s broken the law and lied about it.
Then again he doesn’t give a toss about law or morals. The sooner this embarrassment goes the better. Please not Gove though. |
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"Its not the story that kills you, just the cover-up. "
This..
If Starmer or anyone has any sort of proof then he's in a spot..
Mind you let's be honest his record on lying at the the despatch box is already apparently not an issue so what's several more.. |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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I have a house that really didn't need decorating - but I did it anyway. I also got to choose what I decided to buy and what not to too. Not only that, but I also chose what level of spend it would get.
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"I have a house that really didn't need decorating - but I did it anyway. I also got to choose what I decided to buy and what not to too. Not only that, but I also chose what level of spend it would get.
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And then you paid for it yourself. Simple. |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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"I have a house that really didn't need decorating - but I did it anyway. I also got to choose what I decided to buy and what not to too. Not only that, but I also chose what level of spend it would get.
And then you paid for it yourself. Simple. "
Just like Boris did. |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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The questions for the investigation are if the process of declaration was done in the appropriate required time - not whether that Boris has paid the amount in full. It's already accepted that Boris has now paid the amount in full.
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"Its not the story that kills you, just the cover-up.
This..
If Starmer or anyone has any sort of proof then he's in a spot..
Mind you let's be honest his record on lying at the the despatch box is already apparently not an issue so what's several more.."
Yesterday certainly seemed like a gotcha moment though I suspect that may be more due to the dead bodies comment which he flatly denied.
Still its nice to see the story vanishing from the headlines.
Jackal makes a good point though, the pandemic has been handled appallingly with an horrific death rate, yet its potentially soft furnishings which could be his downfall |
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Jackal makes a good point though, the pandemic has been handled appallingly with an horrific death rate, yet its potentially soft furnishings which could be his downfall"
Proves what a buffoon Boris is. |
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"If Boris paid it all himself, what needs to be declared ? Where is Lord Brownlow's £58,000 now ?"
Its who paid for it initially...that's what he was asked 3 times yesterday and he refused to answer.
Starmers I'll make it easy for you and make it multiple choice was very good.
Boris really needs to watch that blood pressure if his,cant be too healthy getting worked up like that. |
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All the info is out there lol. Go read it. 
Why is the Electoral Commission investigating and why has Lord Geidt been appointed if all the info is already out there ?"
Boris still has the final say.
Its laughable. |
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"I think with what’s going on in the world it’s pathetic that someone has got time to look into this , who really cares ???"
With everything going on in the world, why don't you care. This goes to the very core of his character, abusing the system, taking all he can, despite his own vast personal wealth. Let's not forget people can be jailed for being too poor to pay council tax. |
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"I think with what’s going on in the world it’s pathetic that someone has got time to look into this , who really cares ???"
. I am certain most people would agree with you apart from a small but highly vocal minority . If the pm has lead a world leading vaccination programme and fulfilled the wishes of the electorate by negotiating a successfull Brexit Deal I fail to see why anyone would care. The vocal minority must have few successes in their own policies if this is the only fault that they can find.
It might make the electorate commission feel important but again who has any real interest in what they do. |
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"I think with what’s going on in the world it’s pathetic that someone has got time to look into this , who really cares ???. I am certain most people would agree with you apart from a small but highly vocal minority . If the pm has lead a world leading vaccination programme and fulfilled the wishes of the electorate by negotiating a successfull Brexit Deal I fail to see why anyone would care. The vocal minority must have few successes in their own policies if this is the only fault that they can find.
It might make the electorate commission feel important but again who has any real interest in what they do. "
We all should pat unless your happy to accept the checks and balances required to ensure our democracy is as clean as it can be is not necessary..
Which would suggest gross naivety or an acceptance that corruption is ok in a democratic system..
It goes to the core of what a free functioning democracy is..
Those of you on the right are always screaming about the donations from the trade unions..
Ironic when you consider those donations are voluntary, accounted for and open to scrutiny..
Yet happy it seems to not want the same scrutiny for Boris..
Hypocrisy is one word.. |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
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Boris is hoping that semantics will get him off the hook.
Kier Starmer was very forensic yesterday, offering BJ many avenues to go up. If Kier Starmer already has the proof, the secret emails etc about the flat costs, then he's holding onto it.
I think he's hoping for a big bang moment next week, where he can have BJ bang to rights, on both the flat and the remarks. To do that though, he needs hard evidence, not just "sources said". |
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"Boris is hoping that semantics will get him off the hook.
Kier Starmer was very forensic yesterday, offering BJ many avenues to go up. If Kier Starmer already has the proof, the secret emails etc about the flat costs, then he's holding onto it.
I think he's hoping for a big bang moment next week, where he can have BJ bang to rights, on both the flat and the remarks. To do that though, he needs hard evidence, not just "sources said". "
He's either bluffing or he knows someone else has something which will blow massive holes in what Boris stated on the record four times?
The issue is if there is something then Boris will ignore it and refuse to accept..
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I thought the telling point was where he said if you lie at the dispatch box it's a sacking offence.
Without a doubt he has something on him.
I think its quite telling the likes of the mail and the Express are not letting it go. |
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The issue is if there is something then Boris will ignore it and refuse to accept..
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Sadly I disagree. Increasingly the issue is that people don't care. Public standards, and the reputation of our country in the eyes of the world, is now something that over 50% of the voting public don't care about. |
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The issue is if there is something then Boris will ignore it and refuse to accept..
Sadly I disagree. Increasingly the issue is that people don't care. Public standards, and the reputation of our country in the eyes of the world, is now something that over 50% of the voting public don't care about."
I think this is where the power of the media comes into play.
When a story is hammered over and over again, it does become an "issue' |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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"I think with what’s going on in the world it’s pathetic that someone has got time to look into this , who really cares ???. I am certain most people would agree with you apart from a small but highly vocal minority . If the pm has lead a world leading vaccination programme and fulfilled the wishes of the electorate by negotiating a successfull Brexit Deal I fail to see why anyone would care. The vocal minority must have few successes in their own policies if this is the only fault that they can find.
It might make the electorate commission feel important but again who has any real interest in what they do. "
It’s true...
Mere Plebs like you and I have been born and nurtured to accept that the aristocracy and those bon into wealth and privilege have the right to be treated to different rules to the rest of us. We, after all need keeping in our place and know absolutely that the Eton class and those of that ilk are just born superior to us and therefore should be allowed to get away with anything. No-one has the right to complain that Boris expects others to fund £850 rolls of wallpaper and only pay himself... if he gets caught.
Labour politicians though!!! Fuck them for legitimately claiming a few thousand here and there in expenses. Damn thieves.
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
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"I thought the telling point was where he said if you lie at the dispatch box it's a sacking offence.
Without a doubt he has something on him.
I think its quite telling the likes of the mail and the Express are not letting it go."
And in this instance, I think there is a small but increasing amount of Conservatives that now want him out.
And you may be sure that the DUP are going to start making demands of him. |
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"Jackal makes a good point though, the pandemic has been handled appallingly with an horrific death rate, yet its potentially soft furnishings which could be his downfall"
Indeed. Boris is a lying, incompetent, indecisive toff who has the deaths of well over 100,000 people on his hands; and, now, it's all about his fucking decorating bill?
That tells you all you need to know about how fucked the UK is.
As for those who will not criticise Boris for anything, under any circumstance; they have no more integrity than he does.
Which is why they are able to vote Tory, of course. |
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I thought it was quite interesting to see that blundering buffoon facade drop yesterday aswell.He doesnt get mad with over 100,000 dead or hungry school kids but accuse him of publically spending party funds,and he hits the roof. |
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"If Boris paid it all himself, what needs to be declared ? Where is Lord Brownlow's £58,000 now ?
All the info is out there lol. Go read it. "
No it isn’t |
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"I thought it was quite interesting to see that blundering buffoon facade drop yesterday aswell.He doesnt get mad with over 100,000 dead or hungry school kids but accuse him of publically spending party funds,and he hits the roof."
He know he is in the Shit and Starmer knows which buttons to press, I thought Major Sleaze was going to start crying |
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"I thought it was quite interesting to see that blundering buffoon facade drop yesterday aswell.He doesnt get mad with over 100,000 dead or hungry school kids but accuse him of publically spending party funds,and he hits the roof.
He know he is in the Shit and Starmer knows which buttons to press, I thought Major Sleaze was going to start crying "
And its now Thursday afternoon and... He's still there
He's not going anywhere
Get used to it |
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"I thought it was quite interesting to see that blundering buffoon facade drop yesterday aswell.He doesnt get mad with over 100,000 dead or hungry school kids but accuse him of publically spending party funds,and he hits the roof.
He know he is in the Shit and Starmer knows which buttons to press, I thought Major Sleaze was going to start crying
And its now Thursday afternoon and... He's still there
He's not going anywhere
Get used to it "
Better tell boris that.
He was awfully worked up yesterday. |
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By *oo hotCouple
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"I thought it was quite interesting to see that blundering buffoon facade drop yesterday aswell.He doesnt get mad with over 100,000 dead or hungry school kids but accuse him of publically spending party funds,and he hits the roof.
He know he is in the Shit and Starmer knows which buttons to press, I thought Major Sleaze was going to start crying "
I have to say though, I was expecting some kind breaking news yesterday after Starmer asked him about the piles of bodies quote and then saying he would leave that point there for now and reminded Johnson of the consequences of misleading the House.
The inference was that Starmer had the evidence that would refute Johnson’s assertion - nothing has been made public yet though. |
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"I thought it was quite interesting to see that blundering buffoon facade drop yesterday aswell.He doesnt get mad with over 100,000 dead or hungry school kids but accuse him of publically spending party funds,and he hits the roof.
He know he is in the Shit and Starmer knows which buttons to press, I thought Major Sleaze was going to start crying
And its now Thursday afternoon and... He's still there
He's not going anywhere
Get used to it "
He will be gone this year, I hope you can get over it |
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"I thought it was quite interesting to see that blundering buffoon facade drop yesterday aswell.He doesnt get mad with over 100,000 dead or hungry school kids but accuse him of publically spending party funds,and he hits the roof.
He know he is in the Shit and Starmer knows which buttons to press, I thought Major Sleaze was going to start crying
I have to say though, I was expecting some kind breaking news yesterday after Starmer asked him about the piles of bodies quote and then saying he would leave that point there for now and reminded Johnson of the consequences of misleading the House.
The inference was that Starmer had the evidence that would refute Johnson’s assertion - nothing has been made public yet though."
He is laying traps. Ultimately, Boris will probably survive these latest allegations but more will come, the media are after him, that will worry the Tories |
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"If someone gives me a pound and says treat yourself to a Grab Bag of Monster Munch and I hand the pound to the shopkeeper, who has actually paid for the Monster Munch ? "
Does the Shop have rules that clearly state
Only a Person who wants the Monster Munch
is allowed to pay for them from there own money ?
If not it doesn't Matter . |
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By *oo hotCouple
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It is astonishing just how many people are prepared to turn a blind eye to this issue.
At best, it is a case of vulgar Exceptionalism. Johnson simply expected someone else to carry the can for his (her) re-decorating cost without the slightest care of the cost.
At worst, if he expected a Tory donor to pay - what was the donor getting in return?
We can’t complain generally about standards in public office if we don’t hold everyone who is in public office to the standards and rules which are in existence. |
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Does the Shop have rules that clearly state
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is allowed to pay for them from there own money ?
If not it doesn't Matter ."
It does matter because my contract of employment says I have to tell my boss if someone gives me more than 50p. |
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At worst, if he expected a Tory donor to pay - what was the donor getting in return?
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The donor gave £58k to Boris plus £3 million to the Conservatives. In return, since 2017 he has received £127 million in publically funded contracts. |
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