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By *ackal1 OP Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
A House of Lords security review highlights yet another flaw in this wonderful oven ready deal.
Lord Ricketts stated “ Specifically the report draws attention to the UK's loss of access to the EU's criminal database - the Schengen Information System (SIS II).
Leaving the system meant the UK lost access to 40,000 alerts about investigations in other European countries.
The committee said this represented a "most significant gap" for law enforcement and that the SIS II replacement meant information was available in "a matter of hours, not seconds".
It also warned that data sharing between the sides meant the EU would hold the UK to "higher standards" on data protection and could suspend any agreement "if the UK chooses not to stay aligned with EU data protection rules in the future".
Government response ... “we are one of the safest countries in the world”. Hmm yes, but not as safe as we were then?
This deal with its horrific lack of detailed scrutiny just keeps on giving. Where are the wins? Oh wait tax haven status stays... off course how naive of me. |
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By *ackal1 OP Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
Well that’s sums up a real truth that we all recognise. You can’t defend the indefensible.
My work here is done. Even Boris supporters can’t spin this into a positive.
It must be crap being a government spokesman right now. They have to try and defend this nonsense whilst the journalist must just listen and snigger Then again they also have to print what their owners tell them so they must thinking why waste their time. . |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Well that’s sums up a real truth that we all recognise. You can’t defend the indefensible.
My work here is done. Even Boris supporters can’t spin this into a positive.
It must be crap being a government spokesman right now. They have to try and defend this nonsense whilst the journalist must just listen and snigger Then again they also have to print what their owners tell them so they must thinking why waste their time. . "
The Brexit fanatics can’t defend the indefensible, another shocking Brexit failure |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Where could they be? Usually jumping all over the truth...  "
They might join in later with the usual ‘it’s a non start’ ‘it is the EUs fault ‘ type of response |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I covered this in detail two months ago including comment from top law enforcement.
Top law enforcement.
Complete non story, was debunked."
We have a winner. Wrong Chris , this is worrying trend |
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By *ackal1 OP Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"I covered this in detail two months ago including comment from top law enforcement.
Top law enforcement.
Complete non story, was debunked."
Ha ha. Well that’s the House of Lords for you!!
Strange how we have actually left the update system but don’t let that fact get in the way of your agenda. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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A House of Lords security review highlights yet another flaw in this wonderful oven ready deal.
Lord Ricketts stated “ Specifically the report draws attention to the UK's loss of access to the EU's criminal database - the Schengen Information System (SIS II).
Leaving the system meant the UK lost access to 40,000 alerts about investigations in other European countries.
The committee said this represented a "most significant gap" for law enforcement and that the SIS II replacement meant information was available in "a matter of hours, not seconds".
It also warned that data sharing between the sides meant the EU would hold the UK to "higher standards" on data protection and could suspend any agreement "if the UK chooses not to stay aligned with EU data protection rules in the future".
Government response ... “we are one of the safest countries in the world”. Hmm yes, but not as safe as we were then?
This deal with its horrific lack of detailed scrutiny just keeps on giving. Where are the wins? Oh wait tax haven status stays... off course how naive of me. "
Cynical crap |
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By (user no longer on site)
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A House of Lords security review highlights yet another flaw in this wonderful oven ready deal.
Lord Ricketts stated “ Specifically the report draws attention to the UK's loss of access to the EU's criminal database - the Schengen Information System (SIS II).
Leaving the system meant the UK lost access to 40,000 alerts about investigations in other European countries.
The committee said this represented a "most significant gap" for law enforcement and that the SIS II replacement meant information was available in "a matter of hours, not seconds".
It also warned that data sharing between the sides meant the EU would hold the UK to "higher standards" on data protection and could suspend any agreement "if the UK chooses not to stay aligned with EU data protection rules in the future".
Government response ... “we are one of the safest countries in the world”. Hmm yes, but not as safe as we were then?
This deal with its horrific lack of detailed scrutiny just keeps on giving. Where are the wins? Oh wait tax haven status stays... off course how naive of me. Cynical crap"
Do you ever provide a counter argument ? Or do you just swear and insult? |
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By *ackal1 OP Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
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A House of Lords security review highlights yet another flaw in this wonderful oven ready deal.
Lord Ricketts stated “ Specifically the report draws attention to the UK's loss of access to the EU's criminal database - the Schengen Information System (SIS II).
Leaving the system meant the UK lost access to 40,000 alerts about investigations in other European countries.
The committee said this represented a "most significant gap" for law enforcement and that the SIS II replacement meant information was available in "a matter of hours, not seconds".
It also warned that data sharing between the sides meant the EU would hold the UK to "higher standards" on data protection and could suspend any agreement "if the UK chooses not to stay aligned with EU data protection rules in the future".
Government response ... “we are one of the safest countries in the world”. Hmm yes, but not as safe as we were then?
This deal with its horrific lack of detailed scrutiny just keeps on giving. Where are the wins? Oh wait tax haven status stays... off course how naive of me. Cynical crap"
Another intellectual contribution. Do you get a headache thinking your posts up? It must be exhausting! |
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"Has anyone any information where this has led to a lack of security in the uk and what cases could have been stopped if we were still in? just asking  "
So we're not allowed to criticise poor trade figures because it's too soon after the vote, but we also can't discuss our new lack of security because there's been plenty of time for a terrorist attack since January 1st? |
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By *ackal1 OP Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"Has anyone any information where this has led to a lack of security in the uk and what cases could have been stopped if we were still in? just asking "
Cant see the police sharing anything where they have failed. Given the complaint is from a former government security advisor I think the report of it being a negative is credit worthy.
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A House of Lords security review highlights yet another flaw in this wonderful oven ready deal.
Lord Ricketts stated “ Specifically the report draws attention to the UK's loss of access to the EU's criminal database - the Schengen Information System (SIS II).
Leaving the system meant the UK lost access to 40,000 alerts about investigations in other European countries.
The committee said this represented a "most significant gap" for law enforcement and that the SIS II replacement meant information was available in "a matter of hours, not seconds".
It also warned that data sharing between the sides meant the EU would hold the UK to "higher standards" on data protection and could suspend any agreement "if the UK chooses not to stay aligned with EU data protection rules in the future".
Government response ... “we are one of the safest countries in the world”. Hmm yes, but not as safe as we were then?
This deal with its horrific lack of detailed scrutiny just keeps on giving. Where are the wins? Oh wait tax haven status stays... off course how naive of me. Cynical crap
Do you ever provide a counter argument ? Or do you just swear and insult? "
And yet they are the first to cry foul of personal attacks and name calling.
Go figure... |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"Has anyone any information where this has led to a lack of security in the uk and what cases could have been stopped if we were still in? just asking
So we're not allowed to criticise poor trade figures because it's too soon after the vote, but we also can't discuss our new lack of security because there's been plenty of time for a terrorist attack since January 1st? "
whos stopping you ? i was asking a question, if you cant answer it just say so, why so defensive ? |
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By *ackal1 OP Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"Has anyone any information where this has led to a lack of security in the uk and what cases could have been stopped if we were still in? just asking
So we're not allowed to criticise poor trade figures because it's too soon after the vote, but we also can't discuss our new lack of security because there's been plenty of time for a terrorist attack since January 1st? whos stopping you ? i was asking a question, if you cant answer it just say so, why so defensive ? "
On a serious note the customs and border force are way too stretched at the min so lack of info and more than normal vehicles arriving without checks is a bad combination. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Has anyone any information where this has led to a lack of security in the uk and what cases could have been stopped if we were still in? just asking
So we're not allowed to criticise poor trade figures because it's too soon after the vote, but we also can't discuss our new lack of security because there's been plenty of time for a terrorist attack since January 1st? whos stopping you ? i was asking a question, if you cant answer it just say so, why so defensive ?
On a serious note the customs and border force are way too stretched at the min so lack of info and more than normal vehicles arriving without checks is a bad combination. "
Yeah but, you can’t criticise or raise concerns until something bad has happened , |
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By *ackal1 OP Couple
over a year ago
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"Has anyone any information where this has led to a lack of security in the uk and what cases could have been stopped if we were still in? just asking
So we're not allowed to criticise poor trade figures because it's too soon after the vote, but we also can't discuss our new lack of security because there's been plenty of time for a terrorist attack since January 1st? whos stopping you ? i was asking a question, if you cant answer it just say so, why so defensive ?
On a serious note the customs and border force are way too stretched at the min so lack of info and more than normal vehicles arriving without checks is a bad combination.
Yeah but, you can’t criticise or raise concerns until something bad has happened , "
Something bad already has .. it’s called Brexit!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Has anyone any information where this has led to a lack of security in the uk and what cases could have been stopped if we were still in? just asking
So we're not allowed to criticise poor trade figures because it's too soon after the vote, but we also can't discuss our new lack of security because there's been plenty of time for a terrorist attack since January 1st? whos stopping you ? i was asking a question, if you cant answer it just say so, why so defensive ?
On a serious note the customs and border force are way too stretched at the min so lack of info and more than normal vehicles arriving without checks is a bad combination.
Yeah but, you can’t criticise or raise concerns until something bad has happened ,
Something bad already has .. it’s called Brexit!! "
You can’t say that,  |
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