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"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely?" Why is the city of Brussels interested in the NI border? Of course, as we all know, there are rules that apply to the border on the island of Ireland as layed out in the international Good Friday agreement. | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely?" Hmm, lets think for a minute. Boris produced a ready to eat Brexit deal that would work for everybody. This was agreed between to entities as the right answer. And now it seems we missed a whole load of stuff and want to renege on the deal. Now if we had perhaps agreed some transition arrangement up front to allow for issues then that might have been a good plan - but Boris follows the 6Ps principle ‘Piss Poor Planning Promotes Poor Performance’. & then unilateraly making decisions that break our Agrement with the EU and the Northern Ireland Accord just shows how useless a Govt we have. I have no doubt they were advised not to do it, but yet again they have not listened to ‘experts’ - this team have previous on this (Gove - “the people of this country have had enough of experts”...) | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? Hmm, lets think for a minute. Boris produced a ready to eat Brexit deal that would work for everybody. This was agreed between to entities as the right answer. And now it seems we missed a whole load of stuff and want to renege on the deal. Now if we had perhaps agreed some transition arrangement up front to allow for issues then that might have been a good plan - but Boris follows the 6Ps principle ‘Piss Poor Planning Promotes Poor Performance’. & then unilateraly making decisions that break our Agrement with the EU and the Northern Ireland Accord just shows how useless a Govt we have. I have no doubt they were advised not to do it, but yet again they have not listened to ‘experts’ - this team have previous on this (Gove - “the people of this country have had enough of experts”...)" So it’s just politics then. Nothing tangible. I suspected as much. | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? Hmm, lets think for a minute. Boris produced a ready to eat Brexit deal that would work for everybody. This was agreed between to entities as the right answer. And now it seems we missed a whole load of stuff and want to renege on the deal. Now if we had perhaps agreed some transition arrangement up front to allow for issues then that might have been a good plan - but Boris follows the 6Ps principle ‘Piss Poor Planning Promotes Poor Performance’. & then unilateraly making decisions that break our Agrement with the EU and the Northern Ireland Accord just shows how useless a Govt we have. I have no doubt they were advised not to do it, but yet again they have not listened to ‘experts’ - this team have previous on this (Gove - “the people of this country have had enough of experts”...) So it’s just politics then. Nothing tangible. I suspected as much." You are deliberately missing the point. It is International Agreements & International Law that is being broken. This doesnot encourage others to trust the UK  | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? Hmm, lets think for a minute. Boris produced a ready to eat Brexit deal that would work for everybody. This was agreed between to entities as the right answer. And now it seems we missed a whole load of stuff and want to renege on the deal. Now if we had perhaps agreed some transition arrangement up front to allow for issues then that might have been a good plan - but Boris follows the 6Ps principle ‘Piss Poor Planning Promotes Poor Performance’. & then unilateraly making decisions that break our Agrement with the EU and the Northern Ireland Accord just shows how useless a Govt we have. I have no doubt they were advised not to do it, but yet again they have not listened to ‘experts’ - this team have previous on this (Gove - “the people of this country have had enough of experts”...) So it’s just politics then. Nothing tangible. I suspected as much. You are deliberately missing the point. It is International Agreements & International Law that is being broken. This doesnot encourage others to trust the UK "what something similar to what UVL is proposing over banning the export of vaccines? | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? Hmm, lets think for a minute. Boris produced a ready to eat Brexit deal that would work for everybody. This was agreed between to entities as the right answer. And now it seems we missed a whole load of stuff and want to renege on the deal. Now if we had perhaps agreed some transition arrangement up front to allow for issues then that might have been a good plan - but Boris follows the 6Ps principle ‘Piss Poor Planning Promotes Poor Performance’. & then unilateraly making decisions that break our Agrement with the EU and the Northern Ireland Accord just shows how useless a Govt we have. I have no doubt they were advised not to do it, but yet again they have not listened to ‘experts’ - this team have previous on this (Gove - “the people of this country have had enough of experts”...) So it’s just politics then. Nothing tangible. I suspected as much. You are deliberately missing the point. It is International Agreements & International Law that is being broken. This doesnot encourage others to trust the UK what something similar to what UVL is proposing over banning the export of vaccines?"Maybe we have set a precedent? | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? Hmm, lets think for a minute. Boris produced a ready to eat Brexit deal that would work for everybody. This was agreed between to entities as the right answer. And now it seems we missed a whole load of stuff and want to renege on the deal. Now if we had perhaps agreed some transition arrangement up front to allow for issues then that might have been a good plan - but Boris follows the 6Ps principle ‘Piss Poor Planning Promotes Poor Performance’. & then unilateraly making decisions that break our Agrement with the EU and the Northern Ireland Accord just shows how useless a Govt we have. I have no doubt they were advised not to do it, but yet again they have not listened to ‘experts’ - this team have previous on this (Gove - “the people of this country have had enough of experts”...) So it’s just politics then. Nothing tangible. I suspected as much. You are deliberately missing the point. It is International Agreements & International Law that is being broken. This doesnot encourage others to trust the UK what something similar to what UVL is proposing over banning the export of vaccines?
Maybe we have set a precedent?"Or maybe they did 1st with their threats the other month.  | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? Hmm, lets think for a minute. Boris produced a ready to eat Brexit deal that would work for everybody. This was agreed between to entities as the right answer. And now it seems we missed a whole load of stuff and want to renege on the deal. Now if we had perhaps agreed some transition arrangement up front to allow for issues then that might have been a good plan - but Boris follows the 6Ps principle ‘Piss Poor Planning Promotes Poor Performance’. & then unilateraly making decisions that break our Agrement with the EU and the Northern Ireland Accord just shows how useless a Govt we have. I have no doubt they were advised not to do it, but yet again they have not listened to ‘experts’ - this team have previous on this (Gove - “the people of this country have had enough of experts”...) So it’s just politics then. Nothing tangible. I suspected as much. You are deliberately missing the point. It is International Agreements & International Law that is being broken. This doesnot encourage others to trust the UK what something similar to what UVL is proposing over banning the export of vaccines?
Maybe we have set a precedent?Or maybe they did 1st with their threats the other month. "A big difference between threatening something & actually going through with 2 breaches. Boris has been threatening stuff for at least 2 years - as you sow, so shall you reap... | |||
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"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? Hmm, lets think for a minute. Boris produced a ready to eat Brexit deal that would work for everybody. This was agreed between to entities as the right answer. And now it seems we missed a whole load of stuff and want to renege on the deal. Now if we had perhaps agreed some transition arrangement up front to allow for issues then that might have been a good plan - but Boris follows the 6Ps principle ‘Piss Poor Planning Promotes Poor Performance’. & then unilateraly making decisions that break our Agrement with the EU and the Northern Ireland Accord just shows how useless a Govt we have. I have no doubt they were advised not to do it, but yet again they have not listened to ‘experts’ - this team have previous on this (Gove - “the people of this country have had enough of experts”...) So it’s just politics then. Nothing tangible. I suspected as much. You are deliberately missing the point. It is International Agreements & International Law that is being broken. This doesnot encourage others to trust the UK what something similar to what UVL is proposing over banning the export of vaccines?
Maybe we have set a precedent?Or maybe they did 1st with their threats the other month.
A big difference between threatening something & actually going through with 2 breaches. Boris has been threatening stuff for at least 2 years - as you sow, so shall you reap... "You're right, the uk threatened to do it first but didnt as we did a deal,the second is a delay to implementation. The EU did enact the order to check goods on the border, it only lasted a few hours but they did enact it, it remains to be seen what happens with their latest tantrum | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? Hmm, lets think for a minute. Boris produced a ready to eat Brexit deal that would work for everybody. This was agreed between to entities as the right answer. And now it seems we missed a whole load of stuff and want to renege on the deal. Now if we had perhaps agreed some transition arrangement up front to allow for issues then that might have been a good plan - but Boris follows the 6Ps principle ‘Piss Poor Planning Promotes Poor Performance’. & then unilateraly making decisions that break our Agrement with the EU and the Northern Ireland Accord just shows how useless a Govt we have. I have no doubt they were advised not to do it, but yet again they have not listened to ‘experts’ - this team have previous on this (Gove - “the people of this country have had enough of experts”...) So it’s just politics then. Nothing tangible. I suspected as much. You are deliberately missing the point. It is International Agreements & International Law that is being broken. This doesnot encourage others to trust the UK what something similar to what UVL is proposing over banning the export of vaccines?
Maybe we have set a precedent?Or maybe they did 1st with their threats the other month.
A big difference between threatening something & actually going through with 2 breaches. Boris has been threatening stuff for at least 2 years - as you sow, so shall you reap...
You're right, the uk threatened to do it first but didnt as we did a deal,the second is a delay to implementation. The EU did enact the order to check goods on the border, it only lasted a few hours but they did enact it, it remains to be seen what happens with their latest tantrum"As i have said before when it comes to the actual leaders of the eu countries i think most of them have the sense to see how damaging it could be for them, UVD will be hung out to dry. The total fuck up of vaccine procurement is an embarrassment and the commission has caused some even to break ranks and go their own way i cant see them backing the eu on this. | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? Hmm, lets think for a minute. Boris produced a ready to eat Brexit deal that would work for everybody. This was agreed between to entities as the right answer. And now it seems we missed a whole load of stuff and want to renege on the deal. Now if we had perhaps agreed some transition arrangement up front to allow for issues then that might have been a good plan - but Boris follows the 6Ps principle ‘Piss Poor Planning Promotes Poor Performance’. & then unilateraly making decisions that break our Agrement with the EU and the Northern Ireland Accord just shows how useless a Govt we have. I have no doubt they were advised not to do it, but yet again they have not listened to ‘experts’ - this team have previous on this (Gove - “the people of this country have had enough of experts”...) So it’s just politics then. Nothing tangible. I suspected as much. You are deliberately missing the point. It is International Agreements & International Law that is being broken. This doesnot encourage others to trust the UK what something similar to what UVL is proposing over banning the export of vaccines?
Maybe we have set a precedent?Or maybe they did 1st with their threats the other month.
A big difference between threatening something & actually going through with 2 breaches. Boris has been threatening stuff for at least 2 years - as you sow, so shall you reap...
You're right, the uk threatened to do it first but didnt as we did a deal,the second is a delay to implementation. The EU did enact the order to check goods on the border, it only lasted a few hours but they did enact it, it remains to be seen what happens with their latest tantrumAs i have said before when it comes to the actual leaders of the eu countries i think most of them have the sense to see how damaging it could be for them, UVD will be hung out to dry. The total fuck up of vaccine procurement is an embarrassment and the commission has caused some even to break ranks and go their own way i cant see them backing the eu on this. "At the rate it’s going it will be a new commission, new French President and new German regime within 3 months anyway. | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely?" The lack of responses I take as a positive that clearly remainers have been given pause for thought about what the “row” is even about.... | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely?" I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working  | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? Hmm, lets think for a minute. Boris produced a ready to eat Brexit deal that would work for everybody. This was agreed between to entities as the right answer. And now it seems we missed a whole load of stuff and want to renege on the deal. Now if we had perhaps agreed some transition arrangement up front to allow for issues then that might have been a good plan - but Boris follows the 6Ps principle ‘Piss Poor Planning Promotes Poor Performance’. & then unilateraly making decisions that break our Agrement with the EU and the Northern Ireland Accord just shows how useless a Govt we have. I have no doubt they were advised not to do it, but yet again they have not listened to ‘experts’ - this team have previous on this (Gove - “the people of this country have had enough of experts”...) So it’s just politics then. Nothing tangible. I suspected as much. You are deliberately missing the point. It is International Agreements & International Law that is being broken. This doesnot encourage others to trust the UK what something similar to what UVL is proposing over banning the export of vaccines?
Maybe we have set a precedent?Or maybe they did 1st with their threats the other month.
A big difference between threatening something & actually going through with 2 breaches. Boris has been threatening stuff for at least 2 years - as you sow, so shall you reap...
You're right, the uk threatened to do it first but didnt as we did a deal,the second is a delay to implementation. The EU did enact the order to check goods on the border, it only lasted a few hours but they did enact it, it remains to be seen what happens with their latest tantrumAs i have said before when it comes to the actual leaders of the eu countries i think most of them have the sense to see how damaging it could be for them, UVD will be hung out to dry. The total fuck up of vaccine procurement is an embarrassment and the commission has caused some even to break ranks and go their own way i cant see them backing the eu on this.
At the rate it’s going it will be a new commission, new French President and new German regime within 3 months anyway."Won’t happen, just like the pound won’t be 1.40 to the Euro by May | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working "There's no shame in admitting you don't know  | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? Hmm, lets think for a minute. Boris produced a ready to eat Brexit deal that would work for everybody. This was agreed between to entities as the right answer. And now it seems we missed a whole load of stuff and want to renege on the deal. Now if we had perhaps agreed some transition arrangement up front to allow for issues then that might have been a good plan - but Boris follows the 6Ps principle ‘Piss Poor Planning Promotes Poor Performance’. & then unilateraly making decisions that break our Agrement with the EU and the Northern Ireland Accord just shows how useless a Govt we have. I have no doubt they were advised not to do it, but yet again they have not listened to ‘experts’ - this team have previous on this (Gove - “the people of this country have had enough of experts”...) So it’s just politics then. Nothing tangible. I suspected as much. You are deliberately missing the point. It is International Agreements & International Law that is being broken. This doesnot encourage others to trust the UK what something similar to what UVL is proposing over banning the export of vaccines?
Maybe we have set a precedent?Or maybe they did 1st with their threats the other month.
A big difference between threatening something & actually going through with 2 breaches. Boris has been threatening stuff for at least 2 years - as you sow, so shall you reap...
You're right, the uk threatened to do it first but didnt as we did a deal,the second is a delay to implementation. The EU did enact the order to check goods on the border, it only lasted a few hours but they did enact it, it remains to be seen what happens with their latest tantrumAs i have said before when it comes to the actual leaders of the eu countries i think most of them have the sense to see how damaging it could be for them, UVD will be hung out to dry. The total fuck up of vaccine procurement is an embarrassment and the commission has caused some even to break ranks and go their own way i cant see them backing the eu on this.
At the rate it’s going it will be a new commission, new French President and new German regime within 3 months anyway."Lets face it UVL is only in the job because they couldnt agree on a president so in typical eu fashion they picked someone nobody wanted for the sake of "unity" and everyone is unhappy but equal. | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
There's no shame in admitting you don't know "I do know, a professor told me that it was done to annoy you and other leave voters, it has definitely worked | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
There's no shame in admitting you don't know
I do know, a professor told me that it was done to annoy you and other leave voters, it has definitely worked "Project gammon trigger?  | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
There's no shame in admitting you don't know
I do know, a professor told me that it was done to annoy you and other leave voters, it has definitely worked
Project gammon trigger? "That’s the one, | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
There's no shame in admitting you don't know
I do know, a professor told me that it was done to annoy you and other leave voters, it has definitely worked
Project gammon trigger? "Have you any thoughts as to whether there is anything tangible to complain about re internal borders checks? Or is it just politics? | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
There's no shame in admitting you don't know
I do know, a professor told me that it was done to annoy you and other leave voters, it has definitely worked
Project gammon trigger?
Have you any thoughts as to whether there is anything tangible to complain about re internal borders checks? Or is it just politics? "It is the UK breaking an International Treaty. That isn’t Politics, it is fact. Any sensible Govt would have (1) put something in the agreement to protect the Good Friday Agreement, (2) Honoured it, (3) had a mechanism in place to adjust things if not quite right. ..but we don’t have a sensible Govt sadly. So not Politicsm stupidity | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
There's no shame in admitting you don't know
I do know, a professor told me that it was done to annoy you and other leave voters, it has definitely worked
Project gammon trigger?
Have you any thoughts as to whether there is anything tangible to complain about re internal borders checks? Or is it just politics?
It is the UK breaking an International Treaty. That isn’t Politics, it is fact. Any sensible Govt would have (1) put something in the agreement to protect the Good Friday Agreement, (2) Honoured it, (3) had a mechanism in place to adjust things if not quite right.
..but we don’t have a sensible Govt sadly. So not Politicsm stupidity "Yes, sorry, I don't want to sound like a broken record or anything, but Has it cost Brussels money? Will Brussels lose out in any way whatsoever, or is this a fight about nothing? | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
There's no shame in admitting you don't know
I do know, a professor told me that it was done to annoy you and other leave voters, it has definitely worked
Project gammon trigger?
Have you any thoughts as to whether there is anything tangible to complain about re internal borders checks? Or is it just politics?
It is the UK breaking an International Treaty. That isn’t Politics, it is fact. Any sensible Govt would have (1) put something in the agreement to protect the Good Friday Agreement, (2) Honoured it, (3) had a mechanism in place to adjust things if not quite right.
..but we don’t have a sensible Govt sadly. So not Politicsm stupidity
Yes, sorry, I don't want to sound like a broken record or anything, but
Has it cost Brussels money? Will Brussels lose out in any way whatsoever, or is this a fight about nothing? "...it is an International Treaty that we signed. It doesn’t play to your ‘improving Britain’s soft power’ agenda. It is idiotic & is down to this Govt making a complete mess of the Brexit Agreement. | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working "If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate "****************************** | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate "Anything.... Tangible..... Makes you think doesn't it? | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
There's no shame in admitting you don't know
I do know, a professor told me that it was done to annoy you and other leave voters, it has definitely worked
Project gammon trigger?
Have you any thoughts as to whether there is anything tangible to complain about re internal borders checks? Or is it just politics? "It is good for environment, they are looking at a way to harness ‘gammon rage’ and turn into useable electricity . I have spoken to a professor who states this is a ‘game changer’ | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it? "I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent. | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent. "International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing. Look at Climate accords for example, laughable. | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent.
International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing.
Look at Climate accords for example, laughable. "Paris climate accord is not comparable to the good Friday agreement. There are steps taken for countries that break international law. Plus the country loses trust in the eyes of the international community. Which would be important to avoid for any country desperate for some international trade agreements. Can you think of any country that just binned all their trade agreements and is desperate to sign some more, and who would be looking to appear trustworthy to the international community? | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent.
International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing.
Look at Climate accords for example, laughable.
Paris climate accord is not comparable to the good Friday agreement.
There are steps taken for countries that break international law. Plus the country loses trust in the eyes of the international community. Which would be important to avoid for any country desperate for some international trade agreements.
Can you think of any country that just binned all their trade agreements and is desperate to sign some more, and who would be looking to appear trustworthy to the international community?
"All of them do, I stand by what I said, treaties are just international jollies for bibulous cretins. As you can see with China, Burma, Saudi, even Venezuela for gods sake, trade takes place when there is money to be made. Not when governments sign treaties. | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent.
International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing.
Look at Climate accords for example, laughable.
Paris climate accord is not comparable to the good Friday agreement.
There are steps taken for countries that break international law. Plus the country loses trust in the eyes of the international community. Which would be important to avoid for any country desperate for some international trade agreements.
Can you think of any country that just binned all their trade agreements and is desperate to sign some more, and who would be looking to appear trustworthy to the international community?
All of them do, I stand by what I said, treaties are just international jollies for bibulous cretins.
As you can see with China, Burma, Saudi, even Venezuela for gods sake, trade takes place when there is money to be made. Not when governments sign treaties. "I can see why you voted for Brexit , | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent.
International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing.
Look at Climate accords for example, laughable.
Paris climate accord is not comparable to the good Friday agreement.
There are steps taken for countries that break international law. Plus the country loses trust in the eyes of the international community. Which would be important to avoid for any country desperate for some international trade agreements.
Can you think of any country that just binned all their trade agreements and is desperate to sign some more, and who would be looking to appear trustworthy to the international community?
All of them do, I stand by what I said, treaties are just international jollies for bibulous cretins.
As you can see with China, Burma, Saudi, even Venezuela for gods sake, trade takes place when there is money to be made. Not when governments sign treaties.
I can see why you voted for Brexit , "Glad I've given you pause for thought | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent.
International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing.
Look at Climate accords for example, laughable.
Paris climate accord is not comparable to the good Friday agreement.
There are steps taken for countries that break international law. Plus the country loses trust in the eyes of the international community. Which would be important to avoid for any country desperate for some international trade agreements.
Can you think of any country that just binned all their trade agreements and is desperate to sign some more, and who would be looking to appear trustworthy to the international community?
All of them do, I stand by what I said, treaties are just international jollies for bibulous cretins.
As you can see with China, Burma, Saudi, even Venezuela for gods sake, trade takes place when there is money to be made. Not when governments sign treaties.
I can see why you voted for Brexit ,
Glad I've given you pause for thought "I didn’t need to pause, | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent.
International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing.
Look at Climate accords for example, laughable.
Paris climate accord is not comparable to the good Friday agreement.
There are steps taken for countries that break international law. Plus the country loses trust in the eyes of the international community. Which would be important to avoid for any country desperate for some international trade agreements.
Can you think of any country that just binned all their trade agreements and is desperate to sign some more, and who would be looking to appear trustworthy to the international community?
All of them do, I stand by what I said, treaties are just international jollies for bibulous cretins.
As you can see with China, Burma, Saudi, even Venezuela for gods sake, trade takes place when there is money to be made. Not when governments sign treaties.
I can see why you voted for Brexit , "I know this is a jibe. But I think the one thing we've learned over the past few years, the general public haven't got the slightest notion about how things like breaking the GFA would have impact trade negotiations. As an example. If people are going to be invited to vote of things like Brexit that have wide ranging consequences. Maybe we need a better educated population. | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent.
International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing.
Look at Climate accords for example, laughable.
Paris climate accord is not comparable to the good Friday agreement.
There are steps taken for countries that break international law. Plus the country loses trust in the eyes of the international community. Which would be important to avoid for any country desperate for some international trade agreements.
Can you think of any country that just binned all their trade agreements and is desperate to sign some more, and who would be looking to appear trustworthy to the international community?
All of them do, I stand by what I said, treaties are just international jollies for bibulous cretins.
As you can see with China, Burma, Saudi, even Venezuela for gods sake, trade takes place when there is money to be made. Not when governments sign treaties.
I can see why you voted for Brexit ,
I know this is a jibe. But I think the one thing we've learned over the past few years, the general public haven't got the slightest notion about how things like breaking the GFA would have impact trade negotiations. As an example.
If people are going to be invited to vote of things like Brexit that have wide ranging consequences. Maybe we need a better educated population."True, it is no coincidence that the less educated voted for Brexit . | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent.
International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing.
Look at Climate accords for example, laughable.
Paris climate accord is not comparable to the good Friday agreement.
There are steps taken for countries that break international law. Plus the country loses trust in the eyes of the international community. Which would be important to avoid for any country desperate for some international trade agreements.
Can you think of any country that just binned all their trade agreements and is desperate to sign some more, and who would be looking to appear trustworthy to the international community?
All of them do, I stand by what I said, treaties are just international jollies for bibulous cretins.
As you can see with China, Burma, Saudi, even Venezuela for gods sake, trade takes place when there is money to be made. Not when governments sign treaties.
I can see why you voted for Brexit ,
I know this is a jibe. But I think the one thing we've learned over the past few years, the general public haven't got the slightest notion about how things like breaking the GFA would have impact trade negotiations. As an example.
If people are going to be invited to vote of things like Brexit that have wide ranging consequences. Maybe we need a better educated population."I dispute the Brexit voters are thick argument. Speaking for myself I'm known as being pretty clever and I voted for Brexit. | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent.
International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing.
Look at Climate accords for example, laughable.
Paris climate accord is not comparable to the good Friday agreement.
There are steps taken for countries that break international law. Plus the country loses trust in the eyes of the international community. Which would be important to avoid for any country desperate for some international trade agreements.
Can you think of any country that just binned all their trade agreements and is desperate to sign some more, and who would be looking to appear trustworthy to the international community?
All of them do, I stand by what I said, treaties are just international jollies for bibulous cretins.
As you can see with China, Burma, Saudi, even Venezuela for gods sake, trade takes place when there is money to be made. Not when governments sign treaties.
I can see why you voted for Brexit ,
I know this is a jibe. But I think the one thing we've learned over the past few years, the general public haven't got the slightest notion about how things like breaking the GFA would have impact trade negotiations. As an example.
If people are going to be invited to vote of things like Brexit that have wide ranging consequences. Maybe we need a better educated population.
I dispute the Brexit voters are thick argument.
Speaking for myself I'm known as being pretty clever and I voted for Brexit. "Brexit voters aren’t thick, they are just less educated than remain voters. | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent.
International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing.
Look at Climate accords for example, laughable.
Paris climate accord is not comparable to the good Friday agreement.
There are steps taken for countries that break international law. Plus the country loses trust in the eyes of the international community. Which would be important to avoid for any country desperate for some international trade agreements.
Can you think of any country that just binned all their trade agreements and is desperate to sign some more, and who would be looking to appear trustworthy to the international community?
All of them do, I stand by what I said, treaties are just international jollies for bibulous cretins.
As you can see with China, Burma, Saudi, even Venezuela for gods sake, trade takes place when there is money to be made. Not when governments sign treaties.
I can see why you voted for Brexit ,
I know this is a jibe. But I think the one thing we've learned over the past few years, the general public haven't got the slightest notion about how things like breaking the GFA would have impact trade negotiations. As an example.
If people are going to be invited to vote of things like Brexit that have wide ranging consequences. Maybe we need a better educated population."Because the GFA was always bollocks as I've explained. Brexiteers stand on the shoulders of giants. | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent.
International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing.
Look at Climate accords for example, laughable.
Paris climate accord is not comparable to the good Friday agreement.
There are steps taken for countries that break international law. Plus the country loses trust in the eyes of the international community. Which would be important to avoid for any country desperate for some international trade agreements.
Can you think of any country that just binned all their trade agreements and is desperate to sign some more, and who would be looking to appear trustworthy to the international community?
All of them do, I stand by what I said, treaties are just international jollies for bibulous cretins.
As you can see with China, Burma, Saudi, even Venezuela for gods sake, trade takes place when there is money to be made. Not when governments sign treaties.
I can see why you voted for Brexit ,
I know this is a jibe. But I think the one thing we've learned over the past few years, the general public haven't got the slightest notion about how things like breaking the GFA would have impact trade negotiations. As an example.
If people are going to be invited to vote of things like Brexit that have wide ranging consequences. Maybe we need a better educated population.
Because the GFA was always bollocks as I've explained. Brexiteers stand on the shoulders of giants. "Less educated, fact | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent.
International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing.
Look at Climate accords for example, laughable.
Paris climate accord is not comparable to the good Friday agreement.
There are steps taken for countries that break international law. Plus the country loses trust in the eyes of the international community. Which would be important to avoid for any country desperate for some international trade agreements.
Can you think of any country that just binned all their trade agreements and is desperate to sign some more, and who would be looking to appear trustworthy to the international community?
All of them do, I stand by what I said, treaties are just international jollies for bibulous cretins.
As you can see with China, Burma, Saudi, even Venezuela for gods sake, trade takes place when there is money to be made. Not when governments sign treaties.
I can see why you voted for Brexit ,
I know this is a jibe. But I think the one thing we've learned over the past few years, the general public haven't got the slightest notion about how things like breaking the GFA would have impact trade negotiations. As an example.
If people are going to be invited to vote of things like Brexit that have wide ranging consequences. Maybe we need a better educated population.
Because the GFA was always bollocks as I've explained. Brexiteers stand on the shoulders of giants.
Less educated, fact "It's true that many media studies graduates voted remain, I check with them as I go in the drive through. | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent.
International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing.
Look at Climate accords for example, laughable.
Paris climate accord is not comparable to the good Friday agreement.
There are steps taken for countries that break international law. Plus the country loses trust in the eyes of the international community. Which would be important to avoid for any country desperate for some international trade agreements.
Can you think of any country that just binned all their trade agreements and is desperate to sign some more, and who would be looking to appear trustworthy to the international community?
All of them do, I stand by what I said, treaties are just international jollies for bibulous cretins.
As you can see with China, Burma, Saudi, even Venezuela for gods sake, trade takes place when there is money to be made. Not when governments sign treaties.
I can see why you voted for Brexit ,
I know this is a jibe. But I think the one thing we've learned over the past few years, the general public haven't got the slightest notion about how things like breaking the GFA would have impact trade negotiations. As an example.
If people are going to be invited to vote of things like Brexit that have wide ranging consequences. Maybe we need a better educated population.
I dispute the Brexit voters are thick argument.
Speaking for myself I'm known as being pretty clever and I voted for Brexit. "No one said you're thick. I was just using the example you provided, about your lack of understanding around breaking the GFA, and how this would impact the UK. Lots of people don't have this understanding. My point is that most people don't understand the implications of something as complicated as the UK leaning the EU. | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent.
International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing.
Look at Climate accords for example, laughable.
Paris climate accord is not comparable to the good Friday agreement.
There are steps taken for countries that break international law. Plus the country loses trust in the eyes of the international community. Which would be important to avoid for any country desperate for some international trade agreements.
Can you think of any country that just binned all their trade agreements and is desperate to sign some more, and who would be looking to appear trustworthy to the international community?
All of them do, I stand by what I said, treaties are just international jollies for bibulous cretins.
As you can see with China, Burma, Saudi, even Venezuela for gods sake, trade takes place when there is money to be made. Not when governments sign treaties.
I can see why you voted for Brexit ,
I know this is a jibe. But I think the one thing we've learned over the past few years, the general public haven't got the slightest notion about how things like breaking the GFA would have impact trade negotiations. As an example.
If people are going to be invited to vote of things like Brexit that have wide ranging consequences. Maybe we need a better educated population.
Because the GFA was always bollocks as I've explained. Brexiteers stand on the shoulders of giants.
Less educated, fact
It's true that many media studies graduates voted remain, I check with them as I go in the drive through. "You have rubbished the GFA , says it all really | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent.
International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing.
Look at Climate accords for example, laughable.
Paris climate accord is not comparable to the good Friday agreement.
There are steps taken for countries that break international law. Plus the country loses trust in the eyes of the international community. Which would be important to avoid for any country desperate for some international trade agreements.
Can you think of any country that just binned all their trade agreements and is desperate to sign some more, and who would be looking to appear trustworthy to the international community?
All of them do, I stand by what I said, treaties are just international jollies for bibulous cretins.
As you can see with China, Burma, Saudi, even Venezuela for gods sake, trade takes place when there is money to be made. Not when governments sign treaties.
I can see why you voted for Brexit ,
I know this is a jibe. But I think the one thing we've learned over the past few years, the general public haven't got the slightest notion about how things like breaking the GFA would have impact trade negotiations. As an example.
If people are going to be invited to vote of things like Brexit that have wide ranging consequences. Maybe we need a better educated population.
Because the GFA was always bollocks as I've explained. Brexiteers stand on the shoulders of giants.
Less educated, fact
It's true that many media studies graduates voted remain, I check with them as I go in the drive through.
You have rubbished the GFA , says it all really "Plenty of intelligent people have rubbished the GFA | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent.
International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing.
Look at Climate accords for example, laughable.
Paris climate accord is not comparable to the good Friday agreement.
There are steps taken for countries that break international law. Plus the country loses trust in the eyes of the international community. Which would be important to avoid for any country desperate for some international trade agreements.
Can you think of any country that just binned all their trade agreements and is desperate to sign some more, and who would be looking to appear trustworthy to the international community?
All of them do, I stand by what I said, treaties are just international jollies for bibulous cretins.
As you can see with China, Burma, Saudi, even Venezuela for gods sake, trade takes place when there is money to be made. Not when governments sign treaties.
I can see why you voted for Brexit ,
I know this is a jibe. But I think the one thing we've learned over the past few years, the general public haven't got the slightest notion about how things like breaking the GFA would have impact trade negotiations. As an example.
If people are going to be invited to vote of things like Brexit that have wide ranging consequences. Maybe we need a better educated population.
Because the GFA was always bollocks as I've explained. Brexiteers stand on the shoulders of giants.
Less educated, fact
It's true that many media studies graduates voted remain, I check with them as I go in the drive through.
You have rubbished the GFA , says it all really
Plenty of intelligent people have rubbished the GFA "Only those with an agenda. Ask the majority of people from NI what they think, your lack of understanding on this matter does you no favours. | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent.
International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing.
Look at Climate accords for example, laughable.
Paris climate accord is not comparable to the good Friday agreement.
There are steps taken for countries that break international law. Plus the country loses trust in the eyes of the international community. Which would be important to avoid for any country desperate for some international trade agreements.
Can you think of any country that just binned all their trade agreements and is desperate to sign some more, and who would be looking to appear trustworthy to the international community?
All of them do, I stand by what I said, treaties are just international jollies for bibulous cretins.
As you can see with China, Burma, Saudi, even Venezuela for gods sake, trade takes place when there is money to be made. Not when governments sign treaties.
I can see why you voted for Brexit ,
I know this is a jibe. But I think the one thing we've learned over the past few years, the general public haven't got the slightest notion about how things like breaking the GFA would have impact trade negotiations. As an example.
If people are going to be invited to vote of things like Brexit that have wide ranging consequences. Maybe we need a better educated population.
Because the GFA was always bollocks as I've explained. Brexiteers stand on the shoulders of giants.
Less educated, fact
It's true that many media studies graduates voted remain, I check with them as I go in the drive through.
You have rubbished the GFA , says it all really
Plenty of intelligent people have rubbished the GFA
Only those with an agenda. Ask the majority of people from NI what they think, your lack of understanding on this matter does you no favours."You know my views on the GFA. To gently prod us back on topic, it's internal borders we are discussing, and one international border that never functioned as a customs border anyway. So what in the Sam Hill is the argument even about. It seems ridiculous. | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent.
International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing.
Look at Climate accords for example, laughable.
Paris climate accord is not comparable to the good Friday agreement.
There are steps taken for countries that break international law. Plus the country loses trust in the eyes of the international community. Which would be important to avoid for any country desperate for some international trade agreements.
Can you think of any country that just binned all their trade agreements and is desperate to sign some more, and who would be looking to appear trustworthy to the international community?
All of them do, I stand by what I said, treaties are just international jollies for bibulous cretins.
As you can see with China, Burma, Saudi, even Venezuela for gods sake, trade takes place when there is money to be made. Not when governments sign treaties.
I can see why you voted for Brexit ,
I know this is a jibe. But I think the one thing we've learned over the past few years, the general public haven't got the slightest notion about how things like breaking the GFA would have impact trade negotiations. As an example.
If people are going to be invited to vote of things like Brexit that have wide ranging consequences. Maybe we need a better educated population.
Because the GFA was always bollocks as I've explained. Brexiteers stand on the shoulders of giants.
Less educated, fact
It's true that many media studies graduates voted remain, I check with them as I go in the drive through.
You have rubbished the GFA , says it all really
Plenty of intelligent people have rubbished the GFA
Only those with an agenda. Ask the majority of people from NI what they think, your lack of understanding on this matter does you no favours.
You know my views on the GFA.
To gently prod us back on topic, it's internal borders we are discussing, and one international border that never functioned as a customs border anyway.
So what in the Sam Hill is the argument even about. It seems ridiculous. "Brexit is done, the agreement has been signed, get on with it | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent.
International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing.
Look at Climate accords for example, laughable.
Paris climate accord is not comparable to the good Friday agreement.
There are steps taken for countries that break international law. Plus the country loses trust in the eyes of the international community. Which would be important to avoid for any country desperate for some international trade agreements.
Can you think of any country that just binned all their trade agreements and is desperate to sign some more, and who would be looking to appear trustworthy to the international community?
All of them do, I stand by what I said, treaties are just international jollies for bibulous cretins.
As you can see with China, Burma, Saudi, even Venezuela for gods sake, trade takes place when there is money to be made. Not when governments sign treaties.
I can see why you voted for Brexit ,
I know this is a jibe. But I think the one thing we've learned over the past few years, the general public haven't got the slightest notion about how things like breaking the GFA would have impact trade negotiations. As an example.
If people are going to be invited to vote of things like Brexit that have wide ranging consequences. Maybe we need a better educated population.
Because the GFA was always bollocks as I've explained. Brexiteers stand on the shoulders of giants.
Less educated, fact
It's true that many media studies graduates voted remain, I check with them as I go in the drive through.
You have rubbished the GFA , says it all really
Plenty of intelligent people have rubbished the GFA
Only those with an agenda. Ask the majority of people from NI what they think, your lack of understanding on this matter does you no favours.
You know my views on the GFA.
To gently prod us back on topic, it's internal borders we are discussing, and one international border that never functioned as a customs border anyway.
So what in the Sam Hill is the argument even about. It seems ridiculous. "So you're saying Brexit is a ridiculous pointless waste of time and money, and that it creates problems with the border between Ireland and Northern Ireland. If only there was some way of knowing this prior to the referendum.  | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent.
International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing.
Look at Climate accords for example, laughable.
Paris climate accord is not comparable to the good Friday agreement.
There are steps taken for countries that break international law. Plus the country loses trust in the eyes of the international community. Which would be important to avoid for any country desperate for some international trade agreements.
Can you think of any country that just binned all their trade agreements and is desperate to sign some more, and who would be looking to appear trustworthy to the international community?
All of them do, I stand by what I said, treaties are just international jollies for bibulous cretins.
As you can see with China, Burma, Saudi, even Venezuela for gods sake, trade takes place when there is money to be made. Not when governments sign treaties.
I can see why you voted for Brexit ,
I know this is a jibe. But I think the one thing we've learned over the past few years, the general public haven't got the slightest notion about how things like breaking the GFA would have impact trade negotiations. As an example.
If people are going to be invited to vote of things like Brexit that have wide ranging consequences. Maybe we need a better educated population.
Because the GFA was always bollocks as I've explained. Brexiteers stand on the shoulders of giants.
Less educated, fact
It's true that many media studies graduates voted remain, I check with them as I go in the drive through.
You have rubbished the GFA , says it all really
Plenty of intelligent people have rubbished the GFA
Only those with an agenda. Ask the majority of people from NI what they think, your lack of understanding on this matter does you no favours.
You know my views on the GFA.
To gently prod us back on topic, it's internal borders we are discussing, and one international border that never functioned as a customs border anyway.
So what in the Sam Hill is the argument even about. It seems ridiculous.
So you're saying Brexit is a ridiculous pointless waste of time and money, and that it creates problems with the border between Ireland and Northern Ireland.
If only there was some way of knowing this prior to the referendum. "Don't know how you make that connection, Brexit was about saving 9 billion a year paying into a self perpetuating ridiculous bureaucracy. | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent.
International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing.
Look at Climate accords for example, laughable.
Paris climate accord is not comparable to the good Friday agreement.
There are steps taken for countries that break international law. Plus the country loses trust in the eyes of the international community. Which would be important to avoid for any country desperate for some international trade agreements.
Can you think of any country that just binned all their trade agreements and is desperate to sign some more, and who would be looking to appear trustworthy to the international community?
All of them do, I stand by what I said, treaties are just international jollies for bibulous cretins.
As you can see with China, Burma, Saudi, even Venezuela for gods sake, trade takes place when there is money to be made. Not when governments sign treaties.
I can see why you voted for Brexit ,
I know this is a jibe. But I think the one thing we've learned over the past few years, the general public haven't got the slightest notion about how things like breaking the GFA would have impact trade negotiations. As an example.
If people are going to be invited to vote of things like Brexit that have wide ranging consequences. Maybe we need a better educated population.
Because the GFA was always bollocks as I've explained. Brexiteers stand on the shoulders of giants.
Less educated, fact
It's true that many media studies graduates voted remain, I check with them as I go in the drive through.
You have rubbished the GFA , says it all really
Plenty of intelligent people have rubbished the GFA
Only those with an agenda. Ask the majority of people from NI what they think, your lack of understanding on this matter does you no favours.
You know my views on the GFA.
To gently prod us back on topic, it's internal borders we are discussing, and one international border that never functioned as a customs border anyway.
So what in the Sam Hill is the argument even about. It seems ridiculous.
So you're saying Brexit is a ridiculous pointless waste of time and money, and that it creates problems with the border between Ireland and Northern Ireland.
If only there was some way of knowing this prior to the referendum.
Don't know how you make that connection, Brexit was about saving 9 billion a year paying into a self perpetuating ridiculous bureaucracy. "Lolz. I have to say, of your various personas, the confused about Brexit guy, is my favourite. | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent.
International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing.
Look at Climate accords for example, laughable.
Paris climate accord is not comparable to the good Friday agreement.
There are steps taken for countries that break international law. Plus the country loses trust in the eyes of the international community. Which would be important to avoid for any country desperate for some international trade agreements.
Can you think of any country that just binned all their trade agreements and is desperate to sign some more, and who would be looking to appear trustworthy to the international community?
All of them do, I stand by what I said, treaties are just international jollies for bibulous cretins.
As you can see with China, Burma, Saudi, even Venezuela for gods sake, trade takes place when there is money to be made. Not when governments sign treaties.
I can see why you voted for Brexit ,
I know this is a jibe. But I think the one thing we've learned over the past few years, the general public haven't got the slightest notion about how things like breaking the GFA would have impact trade negotiations. As an example.
If people are going to be invited to vote of things like Brexit that have wide ranging consequences. Maybe we need a better educated population.
Because the GFA was always bollocks as I've explained. Brexiteers stand on the shoulders of giants.
Less educated, fact
It's true that many media studies graduates voted remain, I check with them as I go in the drive through.
You have rubbished the GFA , says it all really
Plenty of intelligent people have rubbished the GFA
Only those with an agenda. Ask the majority of people from NI what they think, your lack of understanding on this matter does you no favours.
You know my views on the GFA.
To gently prod us back on topic, it's internal borders we are discussing, and one international border that never functioned as a customs border anyway.
So what in the Sam Hill is the argument even about. It seems ridiculous.
So you're saying Brexit is a ridiculous pointless waste of time and money, and that it creates problems with the border between Ireland and Northern Ireland.
If only there was some way of knowing this prior to the referendum.
Don't know how you make that connection, Brexit was about saving 9 billion a year paying into a self perpetuating ridiculous bureaucracy.
Lolz.
I have to say, of your various personas, the confused about Brexit guy, is my favourite." | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent.
International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing.
Look at Climate accords for example, laughable.
Paris climate accord is not comparable to the good Friday agreement.
There are steps taken for countries that break international law. Plus the country loses trust in the eyes of the international community. Which would be important to avoid for any country desperate for some international trade agreements.
Can you think of any country that just binned all their trade agreements and is desperate to sign some more, and who would be looking to appear trustworthy to the international community?
All of them do, I stand by what I said, treaties are just international jollies for bibulous cretins.
As you can see with China, Burma, Saudi, even Venezuela for gods sake, trade takes place when there is money to be made. Not when governments sign treaties.
I can see why you voted for Brexit ,
I know this is a jibe. But I think the one thing we've learned over the past few years, the general public haven't got the slightest notion about how things like breaking the GFA would have impact trade negotiations. As an example.
If people are going to be invited to vote of things like Brexit that have wide ranging consequences. Maybe we need a better educated population.
Because the GFA was always bollocks as I've explained. Brexiteers stand on the shoulders of giants.
Less educated, fact
It's true that many media studies graduates voted remain, I check with them as I go in the drive through.
You have rubbished the GFA , says it all really
Plenty of intelligent people have rubbished the GFA
Only those with an agenda. Ask the majority of people from NI what they think, your lack of understanding on this matter does you no favours.
You know my views on the GFA.
To gently prod us back on topic, it's internal borders we are discussing, and one international border that never functioned as a customs border anyway.
So what in the Sam Hill is the argument even about. It seems ridiculous.
So you're saying Brexit is a ridiculous pointless waste of time and money, and that it creates problems with the border between Ireland and Northern Ireland.
If only there was some way of knowing this prior to the referendum.
Don't know how you make that connection, Brexit was about saving 9 billion a year paying into a self
perpetuating ridiculous bureaucracy. "Why do you keep moaning about ‘Brussels’? Brexit is done, signed, great deal, get on with it and stop moaning | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent.
International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing.
Look at Climate accords for example, laughable.
Paris climate accord is not comparable to the good Friday agreement.
There are steps taken for countries that break international law. Plus the country loses trust in the eyes of the international community. Which would be important to avoid for any country desperate for some international trade agreements.
Can you think of any country that just binned all their trade agreements and is desperate to sign some more, and who would be looking to appear trustworthy to the international community?
All of them do, I stand by what I said, treaties are just international jollies for bibulous cretins.
As you can see with China, Burma, Saudi, even Venezuela for gods sake, trade takes place when there is money to be made. Not when governments sign treaties.
I can see why you voted for Brexit ,
I know this is a jibe. But I think the one thing we've learned over the past few years, the general public haven't got the slightest notion about how things like breaking the GFA would have impact trade negotiations. As an example.
If people are going to be invited to vote of things like Brexit that have wide ranging consequences. Maybe we need a better educated population.
Because the GFA was always bollocks as I've explained. Brexiteers stand on the shoulders of giants.
Less educated, fact
It's true that many media studies graduates voted remain, I check with them as I go in the drive through.
You have rubbished the GFA , says it all really
Plenty of intelligent people have rubbished the GFA
Only those with an agenda. Ask the majority of people from NI what they think, your lack of understanding on this matter does you no favours.
You know my views on the GFA.
To gently prod us back on topic, it's internal borders we are discussing, and one international border that never functioned as a customs border anyway.
So what in the Sam Hill is the argument even about. It seems ridiculous.
So you're saying Brexit is a ridiculous pointless waste of time and money, and that it creates problems with the border between Ireland and Northern Ireland.
If only there was some way of knowing this prior to the referendum.
Don't know how you make that connection, Brexit was about saving 9 billion a year paying into a self
perpetuating ridiculous bureaucracy.
Why do you keep moaning about ‘Brussels’? Brexit is done, signed, great deal, get on with it and stop moaning " | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent.
International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing.
Look at Climate accords for example, laughable.
Paris climate accord is not comparable to the good Friday agreement.
There are steps taken for countries that break international law. Plus the country loses trust in the eyes of the international community. Which would be important to avoid for any country desperate for some international trade agreements.
Can you think of any country that just binned all their trade agreements and is desperate to sign some more, and who would be looking to appear trustworthy to the international community?
All of them do, I stand by what I said, treaties are just international jollies for bibulous cretins.
As you can see with China, Burma, Saudi, even Venezuela for gods sake, trade takes place when there is money to be made. Not when governments sign treaties.
I can see why you voted for Brexit ,
I know this is a jibe. But I think the one thing we've learned over the past few years, the general public haven't got the slightest notion about how things like breaking the GFA would have impact trade negotiations. As an example.
If people are going to be invited to vote of things like Brexit that have wide ranging consequences. Maybe we need a better educated population.
Because the GFA was always bollocks as I've explained. Brexiteers stand on the shoulders of giants.
Less educated, fact
It's true that many media studies graduates voted remain, I check with them as I go in the drive through.
You have rubbished the GFA , says it all really
Plenty of intelligent people have rubbished the GFA
Only those with an agenda. Ask the majority of people from NI what they think, your lack of understanding on this matter does you no favours.
You know my views on the GFA.
To gently prod us back on topic, it's internal borders we are discussing, and one international border that never functioned as a customs border anyway.
So what in the Sam Hill is the argument even about. It seems ridiculous.
So you're saying Brexit is a ridiculous pointless waste of time and money, and that it creates problems with the border between Ireland and Northern Ireland.
If only there was some way of knowing this prior to the referendum.
Don't know how you make that connection, Brexit was about saving 9 billion a year paying into a self
perpetuating ridiculous bureaucracy.
Why do you keep moaning about ‘Brussels’? Brexit is done, signed, great deal, get on with it and stop moaning
"How about yourself, any tangible border issues as per the OP? | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent.
International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing.
Look at Climate accords for example, laughable.
Paris climate accord is not comparable to the good Friday agreement.
There are steps taken for countries that break international law. Plus the country loses trust in the eyes of the international community. Which would be important to avoid for any country desperate for some international trade agreements.
Can you think of any country that just binned all their trade agreements and is desperate to sign some more, and who would be looking to appear trustworthy to the international community?
All of them do, I stand by what I said, treaties are just international jollies for bibulous cretins.
As you can see with China, Burma, Saudi, even Venezuela for gods sake, trade takes place when there is money to be made. Not when governments sign treaties.
I can see why you voted for Brexit ,
I know this is a jibe. But I think the one thing we've learned over the past few years, the general public haven't got the slightest notion about how things like breaking the GFA would have impact trade negotiations. As an example.
If people are going to be invited to vote of things like Brexit that have wide ranging consequences. Maybe we need a better educated population.
Because the GFA was always bollocks as I've explained. Brexiteers stand on the shoulders of giants.
Less educated, fact
It's true that many media studies graduates voted remain, I check with them as I go in the drive through.
You have rubbished the GFA , says it all really
Plenty of intelligent people have rubbished the GFA
Only those with an agenda. Ask the majority of people from NI what they think, your lack of understanding on this matter does you no favours.
You know my views on the GFA.
To gently prod us back on topic, it's internal borders we are discussing, and one international border that never functioned as a customs border anyway.
So what in the Sam Hill is the argument even about. It seems ridiculous.
So you're saying Brexit is a ridiculous pointless waste of time and money, and that it creates problems with the border between Ireland and Northern Ireland.
If only there was some way of knowing this prior to the referendum.
Don't know how you make that connection, Brexit was about saving 9 billion a year paying into a self
perpetuating ridiculous bureaucracy.
Why do you keep moaning about ‘Brussels’? Brexit is done, signed, great deal, get on with it and stop moaning
How about yourself, any tangible border issues as per the OP? "Get on with Brexit Chris, you knew what you voted for, it’s done, signed, over , moaning and crying about Brussels solves nothing . I have given you a tangible benefit, ‘gammon rage ‘ it’s the same as ‘salty tears’ and ‘irking remoaners’ so you will appreciate it’s validity | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent.
International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing.
Look at Climate accords for example, laughable.
Paris climate accord is not comparable to the good Friday agreement.
There are steps taken for countries that break international law. Plus the country loses trust in the eyes of the international community. Which would be important to avoid for any country desperate for some international trade agreements.
Can you think of any country that just binned all their trade agreements and is desperate to sign some more, and who would be looking to appear trustworthy to the international community?
All of them do, I stand by what I said, treaties are just international jollies for bibulous cretins.
As you can see with China, Burma, Saudi, even Venezuela for gods sake, trade takes place when there is money to be made. Not when governments sign treaties.
I can see why you voted for Brexit ,
I know this is a jibe. But I think the one thing we've learned over the past few years, the general public haven't got the slightest notion about how things like breaking the GFA would have impact trade negotiations. As an example.
If people are going to be invited to vote of things like Brexit that have wide ranging consequences. Maybe we need a better educated population.
Because the GFA was always bollocks as I've explained. Brexiteers stand on the shoulders of giants.
Less educated, fact
It's true that many media studies graduates voted remain, I check with them as I go in the drive through.
You have rubbished the GFA , says it all really
Plenty of intelligent people have rubbished the GFA
Only those with an agenda. Ask the majority of people from NI what they think, your lack of understanding on this matter does you no favours.
You know my views on the GFA.
To gently prod us back on topic, it's internal borders we are discussing, and one international border that never functioned as a customs border anyway.
So what in the Sam Hill is the argument even about. It seems ridiculous.
So you're saying Brexit is a ridiculous pointless waste of time and money, and that it creates problems with the border between Ireland and Northern Ireland.
If only there was some way of knowing this prior to the referendum.
Don't know how you make that connection, Brexit was about saving 9 billion a year paying into a self
perpetuating ridiculous bureaucracy.
Why do you keep moaning about ‘Brussels’? Brexit is done, signed, great deal, get on with it and stop moaning
How about yourself, any tangible border issues as per the OP? "seems not. | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent.
International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing.
Look at Climate accords for example, laughable.
Paris climate accord is not comparable to the good Friday agreement.
There are steps taken for countries that break international law. Plus the country loses trust in the eyes of the international community. Which would be important to avoid for any country desperate for some international trade agreements.
Can you think of any country that just binned all their trade agreements and is desperate to sign some more, and who would be looking to appear trustworthy to the international community?
All of them do, I stand by what I said, treaties are just international jollies for bibulous cretins.
As you can see with China, Burma, Saudi, even Venezuela for gods sake, trade takes place when there is money to be made. Not when governments sign treaties.
I can see why you voted for Brexit ,
I know this is a jibe. But I think the one thing we've learned over the past few years, the general public haven't got the slightest notion about how things like breaking the GFA would have impact trade negotiations. As an example.
If people are going to be invited to vote of things like Brexit that have wide ranging consequences. Maybe we need a better educated population.
Because the GFA was always bollocks as I've explained. Brexiteers stand on the shoulders of giants.
Less educated, fact
It's true that many media studies graduates voted remain, I check with them as I go in the drive through.
You have rubbished the GFA , says it all really
Plenty of intelligent people have rubbished the GFA
Only those with an agenda. Ask the majority of people from NI what they think, your lack of understanding on this matter does you no favours.
You know my views on the GFA.
To gently prod us back on topic, it's internal borders we are discussing, and one international border that never functioned as a customs border anyway.
So what in the Sam Hill is the argument even about. It seems ridiculous.
So you're saying Brexit is a ridiculous pointless waste of time and money, and that it creates problems with the border between Ireland and Northern Ireland.
If only there was some way of knowing this prior to the referendum.
Don't know how you make that connection, Brexit was about saving 9 billion a year paying into a self
perpetuating ridiculous bureaucracy.
Why do you keep moaning about ‘Brussels’? Brexit is done, signed, great deal, get on with it and stop moaning
How about yourself, any tangible border issues as per the OP?
Get on with Brexit Chris, you knew what you voted for, it’s done, signed, over , moaning and crying about Brussels solves nothing . I have given you a tangible benefit, ‘gammon rage ‘ it’s the same as ‘salty tears’ and ‘irking remoaners’ so you will appreciate it’s validity "I see it more in terms of everyone knows there's nothing tangible for the EU to complain about re internal borders so the situation probably will drag on a bit until better IT systems are in place, and no one will lose out. The EU has got more pressing matters to solve for its citizens. | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent.
International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing.
Look at Climate accords for example, laughable.
Paris climate accord is not comparable to the good Friday agreement.
There are steps taken for countries that break international law. Plus the country loses trust in the eyes of the international community. Which would be important to avoid for any country desperate for some international trade agreements.
Can you think of any country that just binned all their trade agreements and is desperate to sign some more, and who would be looking to appear trustworthy to the international community?
All of them do, I stand by what I said, treaties are just international jollies for bibulous cretins.
As you can see with China, Burma, Saudi, even Venezuela for gods sake, trade takes place when there is money to be made. Not when governments sign treaties.
I can see why you voted for Brexit ,
I know this is a jibe. But I think the one thing we've learned over the past few years, the general public haven't got the slightest notion about how things like breaking the GFA would have impact trade negotiations. As an example.
If people are going to be invited to vote of things like Brexit that have wide ranging consequences. Maybe we need a better educated population.
Because the GFA was always bollocks as I've explained. Brexiteers stand on the shoulders of giants.
Less educated, fact
It's true that many media studies graduates voted remain, I check with them as I go in the drive through.
You have rubbished the GFA , says it all really
Plenty of intelligent people have rubbished the GFA
Only those with an agenda. Ask the majority of people from NI what they think, your lack of understanding on this matter does you no favours.
You know my views on the GFA.
To gently prod us back on topic, it's internal borders we are discussing, and one international border that never functioned as a customs border anyway.
So what in the Sam Hill is the argument even about. It seems ridiculous.
So you're saying Brexit is a ridiculous pointless waste of time and money, and that it creates problems with the border between Ireland and Northern Ireland.
If only there was some way of knowing this prior to the referendum.
Don't know how you make that connection, Brexit was about saving 9 billion a year paying into a self
perpetuating ridiculous bureaucracy.
Why do you keep moaning about ‘Brussels’? Brexit is done, signed, great deal, get on with it and stop moaning
How about yourself, any tangible border issues as per the OP?
Get on with Brexit Chris, you knew what you voted for, it’s done, signed, over , moaning and crying about Brussels solves nothing . I have given you a tangible benefit, ‘gammon rage ‘ it’s the same as ‘salty tears’ and ‘irking remoaners’ so you will appreciate it’s validity
I see it more in terms of everyone knows there's nothing tangible for the EU to complain about re internal borders so the situation probably will drag on a bit until better IT systems are in place, and no one will lose out.
The EU has got more pressing matters to solve for its citizens. "I am not sure if you can read but ‘gammon rage ‘ is a tangible benefit. The heat and steam produced can be used to heat and power homes, hook yourself up to the grid, you could save a few quid | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent.
International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing.
Look at Climate accords for example, laughable.
Paris climate accord is not comparable to the good Friday agreement.
There are steps taken for countries that break international law. Plus the country loses trust in the eyes of the international community. Which would be important to avoid for any country desperate for some international trade agreements.
Can you think of any country that just binned all their trade agreements and is desperate to sign some more, and who would be looking to appear trustworthy to the international community?
All of them do, I stand by what I said, treaties are just international jollies for bibulous cretins.
As you can see with China, Burma, Saudi, even Venezuela for gods sake, trade takes place when there is money to be made. Not when governments sign treaties.
I can see why you voted for Brexit ,
I know this is a jibe. But I think the one thing we've learned over the past few years, the general public haven't got the slightest notion about how things like breaking the GFA would have impact trade negotiations. As an example.
If people are going to be invited to vote of things like Brexit that have wide ranging consequences. Maybe we need a better educated population.
Because the GFA was always bollocks as I've explained. Brexiteers stand on the shoulders of giants.
Less educated, fact
It's true that many media studies graduates voted remain, I check with them as I go in the drive through.
You have rubbished the GFA , says it all really
Plenty of intelligent people have rubbished the GFA
Only those with an agenda. Ask the majority of people from NI what they think, your lack of understanding on this matter does you no favours.
You know my views on the GFA.
To gently prod us back on topic, it's internal borders we are discussing, and one international border that never functioned as a customs border anyway.
So what in the Sam Hill is the argument even about. It seems ridiculous.
So you're saying Brexit is a ridiculous pointless waste of time and money, and that it creates problems with the border between Ireland and Northern Ireland.
If only there was some way of knowing this prior to the referendum.
Don't know how you make that connection, Brexit was about saving 9 billion a year paying into a self
perpetuating ridiculous bureaucracy.
Why do you keep moaning about ‘Brussels’? Brexit is done, signed, great deal, get on with it and stop moaning
How about yourself, any tangible border issues as per the OP?
Get on with Brexit Chris, you knew what you voted for, it’s done, signed, over , moaning and crying about Brussels solves nothing . I have given you a tangible benefit, ‘gammon rage ‘ it’s the same as ‘salty tears’ and ‘irking remoaners’ so you will appreciate it’s validity
I see it more in terms of everyone knows there's nothing tangible for the EU to complain about re internal borders so the situation probably will drag on a bit until better IT systems are in place, and no one will lose out.
The EU has got more pressing matters to solve for its citizens. "I’ll help you with this Chris in terms you will understand. If I use your skill set to the full and agree to let you clean my car for a tenner we have an agreement. Call it a Contract if you like. If you then only clean half my car you are then in breach of that contract. I will be the first to complain about how you’ve not fulfilled your agreement so won’t be paying you the tenner. Actually I’m more worried about all this rioting in the UK since we left the EU. Looks like the fabric of our society is disintegrating Chris. If it continues we’ll be asking EU members to come over as peacekeepers. Who’d have thought? So sad to witness this meltdown but what else did we expect from a country in terminal decline . | |||
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"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent.
International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing.
Look at Climate accords for example, laughable.
Paris climate accord is not comparable to the good Friday agreement.
There are steps taken for countries that break international law. Plus the country loses trust in the eyes of the international community. Which would be important to avoid for any country desperate for some international trade agreements.
Can you think of any country that just binned all their trade agreements and is desperate to sign some more, and who would be looking to appear trustworthy to the international community?
All of them do, I stand by what I said, treaties are just international jollies for bibulous cretins.
As you can see with China, Burma, Saudi, even Venezuela for gods sake, trade takes place when there is money to be made. Not when governments sign treaties.
I can see why you voted for Brexit ,
I know this is a jibe. But I think the one thing we've learned over the past few years, the general public haven't got the slightest notion about how things like breaking the GFA would have impact trade negotiations. As an example.
If people are going to be invited to vote of things like Brexit that have wide ranging consequences. Maybe we need a better educated population.
Because the GFA was always bollocks as I've explained. Brexiteers stand on the shoulders of giants.
Less educated, fact
It's true that many media studies graduates voted remain, I check with them as I go in the drive through.
You have rubbished the GFA , says it all really
Plenty of intelligent people have rubbished the GFA
Only those with an agenda. Ask the majority of people from NI what they think, your lack of understanding on this matter does you no favours.
You know my views on the GFA.
To gently prod us back on topic, it's internal borders we are discussing, and one international border that never functioned as a customs border anyway.
So what in the Sam Hill is the argument even about. It seems ridiculous.
So you're saying Brexit is a ridiculous pointless waste of time and money, and that it creates problems with the border between Ireland and Northern Ireland.
If only there was some way of knowing this prior to the referendum.
Don't know how you make that connection, Brexit was about saving 9 billion a year paying into a self
perpetuating ridiculous bureaucracy.
Why do you keep moaning about ‘Brussels’? Brexit is done, signed, great deal, get on with it and stop moaning
How about yourself, any tangible border issues as per the OP?
Get on with Brexit Chris, you knew what you voted for, it’s done, signed, over , moaning and crying about Brussels solves nothing . I have given you a tangible benefit, ‘gammon rage ‘ it’s the same as ‘salty tears’ and ‘irking remoaners’ so you will appreciate it’s validity
I see it more in terms of everyone knows there's nothing tangible for the EU to complain about re internal borders so the situation probably will drag on a bit until better IT systems are in place, and no one will lose out.
The EU has got more pressing matters to solve for its citizens.
I’ll help you with this Chris in terms you will understand.
If I use your skill set to the full and agree to let you clean my car for a tenner we have an agreement. Call it a Contract if you like. If you then only clean half my car you are then in breach of that contract.
I will be the first to complain about how you’ve not fulfilled your agreement so won’t be paying you the tenner.
Actually I’m more worried about all this rioting in the UK since we left the EU. Looks like the fabric of our society is disintegrating Chris.
If it continues we’ll be asking EU members to come over as peacekeepers. Who’d have thought? So sad to witness this meltdown but what else did we expect from a country in terminal decline . "Are you actually trying to associate brexit with the riots now? ive heard it all now .What about the riots in Holland,Germany and poland are they all down to brexit too and in terminal decline? | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent.
International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing.
Look at Climate accords for example, laughable.
Paris climate accord is not comparable to the good Friday agreement.
There are steps taken for countries that break international law. Plus the country loses trust in the eyes of the international community. Which would be important to avoid for any country desperate for some international trade agreements.
Can you think of any country that just binned all their trade agreements and is desperate to sign some more, and who would be looking to appear trustworthy to the international community?
All of them do, I stand by what I said, treaties are just international jollies for bibulous cretins.
As you can see with China, Burma, Saudi, even Venezuela for gods sake, trade takes place when there is money to be made. Not when governments sign treaties.
I can see why you voted for Brexit ,
I know this is a jibe. But I think the one thing we've learned over the past few years, the general public haven't got the slightest notion about how things like breaking the GFA would have impact trade negotiations. As an example.
If people are going to be invited to vote of things like Brexit that have wide ranging consequences. Maybe we need a better educated population.
Because the GFA was always bollocks as I've explained. Brexiteers stand on the shoulders of giants.
Less educated, fact
It's true that many media studies graduates voted remain, I check with them as I go in the drive through.
You have rubbished the GFA , says it all really
Plenty of intelligent people have rubbished the GFA
Only those with an agenda. Ask the majority of people from NI what they think, your lack of understanding on this matter does you no favours.
You know my views on the GFA.
To gently prod us back on topic, it's internal borders we are discussing, and one international border that never functioned as a customs border anyway.
So what in the Sam Hill is the argument even about. It seems ridiculous.
So you're saying Brexit is a ridiculous pointless waste of time and money, and that it creates problems with the border between Ireland and Northern Ireland.
If only there was some way of knowing this prior to the referendum.
Don't know how you make that connection, Brexit was about saving 9 billion a year paying into a self
perpetuating ridiculous bureaucracy.
Why do you keep moaning about ‘Brussels’? Brexit is done, signed, great deal, get on with it and stop moaning
How about yourself, any tangible border issues as per the OP?
Get on with Brexit Chris, you knew what you voted for, it’s done, signed, over , moaning and crying about Brussels solves nothing . I have given you a tangible benefit, ‘gammon rage ‘ it’s the same as ‘salty tears’ and ‘irking remoaners’ so you will appreciate it’s validity
I see it more in terms of everyone knows there's nothing tangible for the EU to complain about re internal borders so the situation probably will drag on a bit until better IT systems are in place, and no one will lose out.
The EU has got more pressing matters to solve for its citizens.
I’ll help you with this Chris in terms you will understand.
If I use your skill set to the full and agree to let you clean my car for a tenner we have an agreement. Call it a Contract if you like. If you then only clean half my car you are then in breach of that contract.
I will be the first to complain about how you’ve not fulfilled your agreement so won’t be paying you the tenner.
Actually I’m more worried about all this rioting in the UK since we left the EU. Looks like the fabric of our society is disintegrating Chris.
If it continues we’ll be asking EU members to come over as peacekeepers. Who’d have thought? So sad to witness this meltdown but what else did we expect from a country in terminal decline . Are you actually trying to associate brexit with the riots now? ive heard it all now .What about the riots in Holland,Germany and poland are they all down to brexit too and in terminal decline? "iv noticed the remainers are getting a bit carried away lately as I predicted lol | |||
"^^^^^ I dream of a world where people make their own Bon Mots rather than borrow mine So breaking some obscure administrative point about an internal border even the EU doesn’t care about is equivalent to a half washed car? Weird take " I’m amusing myself by ridiculing your comments on the decline of each member of the EU . Thought you'd appreciate the compliment Chris. If you don’t understand the comparison of cleaning my car I do have crayons available to help. | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent.
International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing.
Look at Climate accords for example, laughable.
Paris climate accord is not comparable to the good Friday agreement.
There are steps taken for countries that break international law. Plus the country loses trust in the eyes of the international community. Which would be important to avoid for any country desperate for some international trade agreements.
Can you think of any country that just binned all their trade agreements and is desperate to sign some more, and who would be looking to appear trustworthy to the international community?
All of them do, I stand by what I said, treaties are just international jollies for bibulous cretins.
As you can see with China, Burma, Saudi, even Venezuela for gods sake, trade takes place when there is money to be made. Not when governments sign treaties.
I can see why you voted for Brexit ,
I know this is a jibe. But I think the one thing we've learned over the past few years, the general public haven't got the slightest notion about how things like breaking the GFA would have impact trade negotiations. As an example.
If people are going to be invited to vote of things like Brexit that have wide ranging consequences. Maybe we need a better educated population.
Because the GFA was always bollocks as I've explained. Brexiteers stand on the shoulders of giants.
Less educated, fact
It's true that many media studies graduates voted remain, I check with them as I go in the drive through.
You have rubbished the GFA , says it all really
Plenty of intelligent people have rubbished the GFA
Only those with an agenda. Ask the majority of people from NI what they think, your lack of understanding on this matter does you no favours.
You know my views on the GFA.
To gently prod us back on topic, it's internal borders we are discussing, and one international border that never functioned as a customs border anyway.
So what in the Sam Hill is the argument even about. It seems ridiculous.
So you're saying Brexit is a ridiculous pointless waste of time and money, and that it creates problems with the border between Ireland and Northern Ireland.
If only there was some way of knowing this prior to the referendum.
Don't know how you make that connection, Brexit was about saving 9 billion a year paying into a self
perpetuating ridiculous bureaucracy.
Why do you keep moaning about ‘Brussels’? Brexit is done, signed, great deal, get on with it and stop moaning
How about yourself, any tangible border issues as per the OP?
Get on with Brexit Chris, you knew what you voted for, it’s done, signed, over , moaning and crying about Brussels solves nothing . I have given you a tangible benefit, ‘gammon rage ‘ it’s the same as ‘salty tears’ and ‘irking remoaners’ so you will appreciate it’s validity
I see it more in terms of everyone knows there's nothing tangible for the EU to complain about re internal borders so the situation probably will drag on a bit until better IT systems are in place, and no one will lose out.
The EU has got more pressing matters to solve for its citizens.
I’ll help you with this Chris in terms you will understand.
If I use your skill set to the full and agree to let you clean my car for a tenner we have an agreement. Call it a Contract if you like. If you then only clean half my car you are then in breach of that contract.
I will be the first to complain about how you’ve not fulfilled your agreement so won’t be paying you the tenner.
Actually I’m more worried about all this rioting in the UK since we left the EU. Looks like the fabric of our society is disintegrating Chris.
If it continues we’ll be asking EU members to come over as peacekeepers. Who’d have thought? So sad to witness this meltdown but what else did we expect from a country in terminal decline . Are you actually trying to associate brexit with the riots now? ive heard it all now .What about the riots in Holland,Germany and poland are they all down to brexit too and in terminal decline? "Surprising Chris got my tongue in cheek but never mind . | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent.
International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing.
Look at Climate accords for example, laughable.
Paris climate accord is not comparable to the good Friday agreement.
There are steps taken for countries that break international law. Plus the country loses trust in the eyes of the international community. Which would be important to avoid for any country desperate for some international trade agreements.
Can you think of any country that just binned all their trade agreements and is desperate to sign some more, and who would be looking to appear trustworthy to the international community?
All of them do, I stand by what I said, treaties are just international jollies for bibulous cretins.
As you can see with China, Burma, Saudi, even Venezuela for gods sake, trade takes place when there is money to be made. Not when governments sign treaties.
I can see why you voted for Brexit ,
I know this is a jibe. But I think the one thing we've learned over the past few years, the general public haven't got the slightest notion about how things like breaking the GFA would have impact trade negotiations. As an example.
If people are going to be invited to vote of things like Brexit that have wide ranging consequences. Maybe we need a better educated population.
Because the GFA was always bollocks as I've explained. Brexiteers stand on the shoulders of giants.
Less educated, fact
It's true that many media studies graduates voted remain, I check with them as I go in the drive through.
You have rubbished the GFA , says it all really
Plenty of intelligent people have rubbished the GFA
Only those with an agenda. Ask the majority of people from NI what they think, your lack of understanding on this matter does you no favours.
You know my views on the GFA.
To gently prod us back on topic, it's internal borders we are discussing, and one international border that never functioned as a customs border anyway.
So what in the Sam Hill is the argument even about. It seems ridiculous.
So you're saying Brexit is a ridiculous pointless waste of time and money, and that it creates problems with the border between Ireland and Northern Ireland.
If only there was some way of knowing this prior to the referendum.
Don't know how you make that connection, Brexit was about saving 9 billion a year paying into a self
perpetuating ridiculous bureaucracy.
Why do you keep moaning about ‘Brussels’? Brexit is done, signed, great deal, get on with it and stop moaning
How about yourself, any tangible border issues as per the OP?
Get on with Brexit Chris, you knew what you voted for, it’s done, signed, over , moaning and crying about Brussels solves nothing . I have given you a tangible benefit, ‘gammon rage ‘ it’s the same as ‘salty tears’ and ‘irking remoaners’ so you will appreciate it’s validity
I see it more in terms of everyone knows there's nothing tangible for the EU to complain about re internal borders so the situation probably will drag on a bit until better IT systems are in place, and no one will lose out.
The EU has got more pressing matters to solve for its citizens.
I’ll help you with this Chris in terms you will understand.
If I use your skill set to the full and agree to let you clean my car for a tenner we have an agreement. Call it a Contract if you like. If you then only clean half my car you are then in breach of that contract.
I will be the first to complain about how you’ve not fulfilled your agreement so won’t be paying you the tenner.
Actually I’m more worried about all this rioting in the UK since we left the EU. Looks like the fabric of our society is disintegrating Chris.
If it continues we’ll be asking EU members to come over as peacekeepers. Who’d have thought? So sad to witness this meltdown but what else did we expect from a country in terminal decline . Are you actually trying to associate brexit with the riots now? ive heard it all now .What about the riots in Holland,Germany and poland are they all down to brexit too and in terminal decline? iv noticed the remainers are getting a bit carried away lately as I predicted lol"I refer to my last post . | |||
"^^^^^ I dream of a world where people make their own Bon Mots rather than borrow mine So breaking some obscure administrative point about an internal border even the EU doesn’t care about is equivalent to a half washed car? Weird take " Why do you keep moaning about Brussels, I thought you were happy at the way Brexit has turned out? | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent.
International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing.
Look at Climate accords for example, laughable.
Paris climate accord is not comparable to the good Friday agreement.
There are steps taken for countries that break international law. Plus the country loses trust in the eyes of the international community. Which would be important to avoid for any country desperate for some international trade agreements.
Can you think of any country that just binned all their trade agreements and is desperate to sign some more, and who would be looking to appear trustworthy to the international community?
All of them do, I stand by what I said, treaties are just international jollies for bibulous cretins.
As you can see with China, Burma, Saudi, even Venezuela for gods sake, trade takes place when there is money to be made. Not when governments sign treaties.
I can see why you voted for Brexit ,
I know this is a jibe. But I think the one thing we've learned over the past few years, the general public haven't got the slightest notion about how things like breaking the GFA would have impact trade negotiations. As an example.
If people are going to be invited to vote of things like Brexit that have wide ranging consequences. Maybe we need a better educated population.
Because the GFA was always bollocks as I've explained. Brexiteers stand on the shoulders of giants.
Less educated, fact
It's true that many media studies graduates voted remain, I check with them as I go in the drive through.
You have rubbished the GFA , says it all really
Plenty of intelligent people have rubbished the GFA
Only those with an agenda. Ask the majority of people from NI what they think, your lack of understanding on this matter does you no favours.
You know my views on the GFA.
To gently prod us back on topic, it's internal borders we are discussing, and one international border that never functioned as a customs border anyway.
So what in the Sam Hill is the argument even about. It seems ridiculous.
So you're saying Brexit is a ridiculous pointless waste of time and money, and that it creates problems with the border between Ireland and Northern Ireland.
If only there was some way of knowing this prior to the referendum.
Don't know how you make that connection, Brexit was about saving 9 billion a year paying into a self
perpetuating ridiculous bureaucracy.
Why do you keep moaning about ‘Brussels’? Brexit is done, signed, great deal, get on with it and stop moaning
How about yourself, any tangible border issues as per the OP?
Get on with Brexit Chris, you knew what you voted for, it’s done, signed, over , moaning and crying about Brussels solves nothing . I have given you a tangible benefit, ‘gammon rage ‘ it’s the same as ‘salty tears’ and ‘irking remoaners’ so you will appreciate it’s validity
I see it more in terms of everyone knows there's nothing tangible for the EU to complain about re internal borders so the situation probably will drag on a bit until better IT systems are in place, and no one will lose out.
The EU has got more pressing matters to solve for its citizens.
I’ll help you with this Chris in terms you will understand.
If I use your skill set to the full and agree to let you clean my car for a tenner we have an agreement. Call it a Contract if you like. If you then only clean half my car you are then in breach of that contract.
I will be the first to complain about how you’ve not fulfilled your agreement so won’t be paying you the tenner.
Actually I’m more worried about all this rioting in the UK since we left the EU. Looks like the fabric of our society is disintegrating Chris.
If it continues we’ll be asking EU members to come over as peacekeepers. Who’d have thought? So sad to witness this meltdown but what else did we expect from a country in terminal decline . Are you actually trying to associate brexit with the riots now? ive heard it all now .What about the riots in Holland,Germany and poland are they all down to brexit too and in terminal decline? iv noticed the remainers are getting a bit carried away lately as I predicted lol"Is that because A. Brexit is a fantastic success. Or B. Brexit is a massive shit sandwich as expected? | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent.
International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing.
Look at Climate accords for example, laughable.
Paris climate accord is not comparable to the good Friday agreement.
There are steps taken for countries that break international law. Plus the country loses trust in the eyes of the international community. Which would be important to avoid for any country desperate for some international trade agreements.
Can you think of any country that just binned all their trade agreements and is desperate to sign some more, and who would be looking to appear trustworthy to the international community?
All of them do, I stand by what I said, treaties are just international jollies for bibulous cretins.
As you can see with China, Burma, Saudi, even Venezuela for gods sake, trade takes place when there is money to be made. Not when governments sign treaties.
I can see why you voted for Brexit ,
I know this is a jibe. But I think the one thing we've learned over the past few years, the general public haven't got the slightest notion about how things like breaking the GFA would have impact trade negotiations. As an example.
If people are going to be invited to vote of things like Brexit that have wide ranging consequences. Maybe we need a better educated population.
Because the GFA was always bollocks as I've explained. Brexiteers stand on the shoulders of giants.
Less educated, fact
It's true that many media studies graduates voted remain, I check with them as I go in the drive through.
You have rubbished the GFA , says it all really
Plenty of intelligent people have rubbished the GFA
Only those with an agenda. Ask the majority of people from NI what they think, your lack of understanding on this matter does you no favours.
You know my views on the GFA.
To gently prod us back on topic, it's internal borders we are discussing, and one international border that never functioned as a customs border anyway.
So what in the Sam Hill is the argument even about. It seems ridiculous.
So you're saying Brexit is a ridiculous pointless waste of time and money, and that it creates problems with the border between Ireland and Northern Ireland.
If only there was some way of knowing this prior to the referendum.
Don't know how you make that connection, Brexit was about saving 9 billion a year paying into a self
perpetuating ridiculous bureaucracy.
Why do you keep moaning about ‘Brussels’? Brexit is done, signed, great deal, get on with it and stop moaning
How about yourself, any tangible border issues as per the OP?
Get on with Brexit Chris, you knew what you voted for, it’s done, signed, over , moaning and crying about Brussels solves nothing . I have given you a tangible benefit, ‘gammon rage ‘ it’s the same as ‘salty tears’ and ‘irking remoaners’ so you will appreciate it’s validity
I see it more in terms of everyone knows there's nothing tangible for the EU to complain about re internal borders so the situation probably will drag on a bit until better IT systems are in place, and no one will lose out.
The EU has got more pressing matters to solve for its citizens.
I’ll help you with this Chris in terms you will understand.
If I use your skill set to the full and agree to let you clean my car for a tenner we have an agreement. Call it a Contract if you like. If you then only clean half my car you are then in breach of that contract.
I will be the first to complain about how you’ve not fulfilled your agreement so won’t be paying you the tenner.
Actually I’m more worried about all this rioting in the UK since we left the EU. Looks like the fabric of our society is disintegrating Chris.
If it continues we’ll be asking EU members to come over as peacekeepers. Who’d have thought? So sad to witness this meltdown but what else did we expect from a country in terminal decline . Are you actually trying to associate brexit with the riots now? ive heard it all now .What about the riots in Holland,Germany and poland are they all down to brexit too and in terminal decline? "To explain it was Chris referring to those riots you mention on the continent being down to the EU and Brexit triggering them that I was mentioning the U.K. riots. I’m so glad you realise it’s utter nonsense too. Make sure you tell Chris next time he mentions it! | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent.
International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing.
Look at Climate accords for example, laughable.
Paris climate accord is not comparable to the good Friday agreement.
There are steps taken for countries that break international law. Plus the country loses trust in the eyes of the international community. Which would be important to avoid for any country desperate for some international trade agreements.
Can you think of any country that just binned all their trade agreements and is desperate to sign some more, and who would be looking to appear trustworthy to the international community?
All of them do, I stand by what I said, treaties are just international jollies for bibulous cretins.
As you can see with China, Burma, Saudi, even Venezuela for gods sake, trade takes place when there is money to be made. Not when governments sign treaties.
I can see why you voted for Brexit ,
I know this is a jibe. But I think the one thing we've learned over the past few years, the general public haven't got the slightest notion about how things like breaking the GFA would have impact trade negotiations. As an example.
If people are going to be invited to vote of things like Brexit that have wide ranging consequences. Maybe we need a better educated population.
Because the GFA was always bollocks as I've explained. Brexiteers stand on the shoulders of giants.
Less educated, fact
It's true that many media studies graduates voted remain, I check with them as I go in the drive through.
You have rubbished the GFA , says it all really
Plenty of intelligent people have rubbished the GFA
Only those with an agenda. Ask the majority of people from NI what they think, your lack of understanding on this matter does you no favours.
You know my views on the GFA.
To gently prod us back on topic, it's internal borders we are discussing, and one international border that never functioned as a customs border anyway.
So what in the Sam Hill is the argument even about. It seems ridiculous.
So you're saying Brexit is a ridiculous pointless waste of time and money, and that it creates problems with the border between Ireland and Northern Ireland.
If only there was some way of knowing this prior to the referendum.
Don't know how you make that connection, Brexit was about saving 9 billion a year paying into a self
perpetuating ridiculous bureaucracy.
Why do you keep moaning about ‘Brussels’? Brexit is done, signed, great deal, get on with it and stop moaning
How about yourself, any tangible border issues as per the OP?
Get on with Brexit Chris, you knew what you voted for, it’s done, signed, over , moaning and crying about Brussels solves nothing . I have given you a tangible benefit, ‘gammon rage ‘ it’s the same as ‘salty tears’ and ‘irking remoaners’ so you will appreciate it’s validity
I see it more in terms of everyone knows there's nothing tangible for the EU to complain about re internal borders so the situation probably will drag on a bit until better IT systems are in place, and no one will lose out.
The EU has got more pressing matters to solve for its citizens.
I’ll help you with this Chris in terms you will understand.
If I use your skill set to the full and agree to let you clean my car for a tenner we have an agreement. Call it a Contract if you like. If you then only clean half my car you are then in breach of that contract.
I will be the first to complain about how you’ve not fulfilled your agreement so won’t be paying you the tenner.
Actually I’m more worried about all this rioting in the UK since we left the EU. Looks like the fabric of our society is disintegrating Chris.
If it continues we’ll be asking EU members to come over as peacekeepers. Who’d have thought? So sad to witness this meltdown but what else did we expect from a country in terminal decline . Are you actually trying to associate brexit with the riots now? ive heard it all now .What about the riots in Holland,Germany and poland are they all down to brexit too and in terminal decline? iv noticed the remainers are getting a bit carried away lately as I predicted lol
Is that because A. Brexit is a fantastic success. Or B. Brexit is a massive shit sandwich as expected?"I wasn’t expecting an overnight success tho seems your judging things a bit to early as always mate | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent.
International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing.
Look at Climate accords for example, laughable.
Paris climate accord is not comparable to the good Friday agreement.
There are steps taken for countries that break international law. Plus the country loses trust in the eyes of the international community. Which would be important to avoid for any country desperate for some international trade agreements.
Can you think of any country that just binned all their trade agreements and is desperate to sign some more, and who would be looking to appear trustworthy to the international community?
All of them do, I stand by what I said, treaties are just international jollies for bibulous cretins.
As you can see with China, Burma, Saudi, even Venezuela for gods sake, trade takes place when there is money to be made. Not when governments sign treaties.
I can see why you voted for Brexit ,
I know this is a jibe. But I think the one thing we've learned over the past few years, the general public haven't got the slightest notion about how things like breaking the GFA would have impact trade negotiations. As an example.
If people are going to be invited to vote of things like Brexit that have wide ranging consequences. Maybe we need a better educated population.
Because the GFA was always bollocks as I've explained. Brexiteers stand on the shoulders of giants.
Less educated, fact
It's true that many media studies graduates voted remain, I check with them as I go in the drive through.
You have rubbished the GFA , says it all really
Plenty of intelligent people have rubbished the GFA
Only those with an agenda. Ask the majority of people from NI what they think, your lack of understanding on this matter does you no favours.
You know my views on the GFA.
To gently prod us back on topic, it's internal borders we are discussing, and one international border that never functioned as a customs border anyway.
So what in the Sam Hill is the argument even about. It seems ridiculous.
So you're saying Brexit is a ridiculous pointless waste of time and money, and that it creates problems with the border between Ireland and Northern Ireland.
If only there was some way of knowing this prior to the referendum.
Don't know how you make that connection, Brexit was about saving 9 billion a year paying into a self
perpetuating ridiculous bureaucracy.
Why do you keep moaning about ‘Brussels’? Brexit is done, signed, great deal, get on with it and stop moaning
How about yourself, any tangible border issues as per the OP?
Get on with Brexit Chris, you knew what you voted for, it’s done, signed, over , moaning and crying about Brussels solves nothing . I have given you a tangible benefit, ‘gammon rage ‘ it’s the same as ‘salty tears’ and ‘irking remoaners’ so you will appreciate it’s validity
I see it more in terms of everyone knows there's nothing tangible for the EU to complain about re internal borders so the situation probably will drag on a bit until better IT systems are in place, and no one will lose out.
The EU has got more pressing matters to solve for its citizens.
I’ll help you with this Chris in terms you will understand.
If I use your skill set to the full and agree to let you clean my car for a tenner we have an agreement. Call it a Contract if you like. If you then only clean half my car you are then in breach of that contract.
I will be the first to complain about how you’ve not fulfilled your agreement so won’t be paying you the tenner.
Actually I’m more worried about all this rioting in the UK since we left the EU. Looks like the fabric of our society is disintegrating Chris.
If it continues we’ll be asking EU members to come over as peacekeepers. Who’d have thought? So sad to witness this meltdown but what else did we expect from a country in terminal decline . Are you actually trying to associate brexit with the riots now? ive heard it all now .What about the riots in Holland,Germany and poland are they all down to brexit too and in terminal decline? iv noticed the remainers are getting a bit carried away lately as I predicted lol
Is that because A. Brexit is a fantastic success. Or B. Brexit is a massive shit sandwich as expected?I wasn’t expecting an overnight success tho seems your judging things a bit to early as always mate "We had four years between the referendum and leaving. We've had a year and 3 months since we left. We were told it would be an immediate success, with no downsides. So far we've had only downsides. And no news of any upsides. They're now saying might take ten years. If it's still a shit sandwich then, will you still be arguing that brexit is a good idea? | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent.
International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing.
Look at Climate accords for example, laughable.
Paris climate accord is not comparable to the good Friday agreement.
There are steps taken for countries that break international law. Plus the country loses trust in the eyes of the international community. Which would be important to avoid for any country desperate for some international trade agreements.
Can you think of any country that just binned all their trade agreements and is desperate to sign some more, and who would be looking to appear trustworthy to the international community?
All of them do, I stand by what I said, treaties are just international jollies for bibulous cretins.
As you can see with China, Burma, Saudi, even Venezuela for gods sake, trade takes place when there is money to be made. Not when governments sign treaties.
I can see why you voted for Brexit ,
I know this is a jibe. But I think the one thing we've learned over the past few years, the general public haven't got the slightest notion about how things like breaking the GFA would have impact trade negotiations. As an example.
If people are going to be invited to vote of things like Brexit that have wide ranging consequences. Maybe we need a better educated population.
Because the GFA was always bollocks as I've explained. Brexiteers stand on the shoulders of giants.
Less educated, fact
It's true that many media studies graduates voted remain, I check with them as I go in the drive through.
You have rubbished the GFA , says it all really
Plenty of intelligent people have rubbished the GFA
Only those with an agenda. Ask the majority of people from NI what they think, your lack of understanding on this matter does you no favours.
You know my views on the GFA.
To gently prod us back on topic, it's internal borders we are discussing, and one international border that never functioned as a customs border anyway.
So what in the Sam Hill is the argument even about. It seems ridiculous.
So you're saying Brexit is a ridiculous pointless waste of time and money, and that it creates problems with the border between Ireland and Northern Ireland.
If only there was some way of knowing this prior to the referendum.
Don't know how you make that connection, Brexit was about saving 9 billion a year paying into a self
perpetuating ridiculous bureaucracy.
Why do you keep moaning about ‘Brussels’? Brexit is done, signed, great deal, get on with it and stop moaning
How about yourself, any tangible border issues as per the OP?
Get on with Brexit Chris, you knew what you voted for, it’s done, signed, over , moaning and crying about Brussels solves nothing . I have given you a tangible benefit, ‘gammon rage ‘ it’s the same as ‘salty tears’ and ‘irking remoaners’ so you will appreciate it’s validity
I see it more in terms of everyone knows there's nothing tangible for the EU to complain about re internal borders so the situation probably will drag on a bit until better IT systems are in place, and no one will lose out.
The EU has got more pressing matters to solve for its citizens.
I’ll help you with this Chris in terms you will understand.
If I use your skill set to the full and agree to let you clean my car for a tenner we have an agreement. Call it a Contract if you like. If you then only clean half my car you are then in breach of that contract.
I will be the first to complain about how you’ve not fulfilled your agreement so won’t be paying you the tenner.
Actually I’m more worried about all this rioting in the UK since we left the EU. Looks like the fabric of our society is disintegrating Chris.
If it continues we’ll be asking EU members to come over as peacekeepers. Who’d have thought? So sad to witness this meltdown but what else did we expect from a country in terminal decline . Are you actually trying to associate brexit with the riots now? ive heard it all now .What about the riots in Holland,Germany and poland are they all down to brexit too and in terminal decline? iv noticed the remainers are getting a bit carried away lately as I predicted lol
Is that because A. Brexit is a fantastic success. Or B. Brexit is a massive shit sandwich as expected?I wasn’t expecting an overnight success tho seems your judging things a bit to early as always mate
We had four years between the referendum and leaving. We've had a year and 3 months since we left.
We were told it would be an immediate success, with no downsides.
So far we've had only downsides. And no news of any upsides.
They're now saying might take ten years. If it's still a shit sandwich then, will you still be arguing that brexit is a good idea?"arguing is that what I’m doing lol Okies bud if it’s shit in ten yrs il say it is and I’ll give you that apology you been calling for is that ok with you ? | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent.
International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing.
Look at Climate accords for example, laughable.
Paris climate accord is not comparable to the good Friday agreement.
There are steps taken for countries that break international law. Plus the country loses trust in the eyes of the international community. Which would be important to avoid for any country desperate for some international trade agreements.
Can you think of any country that just binned all their trade agreements and is desperate to sign some more, and who would be looking to appear trustworthy to the international community?
All of them do, I stand by what I said, treaties are just international jollies for bibulous cretins.
As you can see with China, Burma, Saudi, even Venezuela for gods sake, trade takes place when there is money to be made. Not when governments sign treaties.
I can see why you voted for Brexit ,
I know this is a jibe. But I think the one thing we've learned over the past few years, the general public haven't got the slightest notion about how things like breaking the GFA would have impact trade negotiations. As an example.
If people are going to be invited to vote of things like Brexit that have wide ranging consequences. Maybe we need a better educated population.
Because the GFA was always bollocks as I've explained. Brexiteers stand on the shoulders of giants.
Less educated, fact
It's true that many media studies graduates voted remain, I check with them as I go in the drive through.
You have rubbished the GFA , says it all really
Plenty of intelligent people have rubbished the GFA
Only those with an agenda. Ask the majority of people from NI what they think, your lack of understanding on this matter does you no favours.
You know my views on the GFA.
To gently prod us back on topic, it's internal borders we are discussing, and one international border that never functioned as a customs border anyway.
So what in the Sam Hill is the argument even about. It seems ridiculous.
So you're saying Brexit is a ridiculous pointless waste of time and money, and that it creates problems with the border between Ireland and Northern Ireland.
If only there was some way of knowing this prior to the referendum.
Don't know how you make that connection, Brexit was about saving 9 billion a year paying into a self
perpetuating ridiculous bureaucracy.
Why do you keep moaning about ‘Brussels’? Brexit is done, signed, great deal, get on with it and stop moaning
How about yourself, any tangible border issues as per the OP?
Get on with Brexit Chris, you knew what you voted for, it’s done, signed, over , moaning and crying about Brussels solves nothing . I have given you a tangible benefit, ‘gammon rage ‘ it’s the same as ‘salty tears’ and ‘irking remoaners’ so you will appreciate it’s validity
I see it more in terms of everyone knows there's nothing tangible for the EU to complain about re internal borders so the situation probably will drag on a bit until better IT systems are in place, and no one will lose out.
The EU has got more pressing matters to solve for its citizens.
I’ll help you with this Chris in terms you will understand.
If I use your skill set to the full and agree to let you clean my car for a tenner we have an agreement. Call it a Contract if you like. If you then only clean half my car you are then in breach of that contract.
I will be the first to complain about how you’ve not fulfilled your agreement so won’t be paying you the tenner.
Actually I’m more worried about all this rioting in the UK since we left the EU. Looks like the fabric of our society is disintegrating Chris.
If it continues we’ll be asking EU members to come over as peacekeepers. Who’d have thought? So sad to witness this meltdown but what else did we expect from a country in terminal decline . Are you actually trying to associate brexit with the riots now? ive heard it all now .What about the riots in Holland,Germany and poland are they all down to brexit too and in terminal decline? iv noticed the remainers are getting a bit carried away lately as I predicted lol
Is that because A. Brexit is a fantastic success. Or B. Brexit is a massive shit sandwich as expected?I wasn’t expecting an overnight success tho seems your judging things a bit to early as always mate
We had four years between the referendum and leaving. We've had a year and 3 months since we left.
We were told it would be an immediate success, with no downsides.
So far we've had only downsides. And no news of any upsides.
They're now saying might take ten years. If it's still a shit sandwich then, will you still be arguing that brexit is a good idea?arguing is that what I’m doing lol Okies bud if it’s shit in ten yrs il say it is and I’ll give you that apology you been calling for is that ok with you ?"Don't need an apology. And I'm not blaming you. Just frustrating that we haven't learned anything. People still say that brexit is a good idea. What can you do eh! | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent.
International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing.
Look at Climate accords for example, laughable.
Paris climate accord is not comparable to the good Friday agreement.
There are steps taken for countries that break international law. Plus the country loses trust in the eyes of the international community. Which would be important to avoid for any country desperate for some international trade agreements.
Can you think of any country that just binned all their trade agreements and is desperate to sign some more, and who would be looking to appear trustworthy to the international community?
All of them do, I stand by what I said, treaties are just international jollies for bibulous cretins.
As you can see with China, Burma, Saudi, even Venezuela for gods sake, trade takes place when there is money to be made. Not when governments sign treaties.
I can see why you voted for Brexit ,
I know this is a jibe. But I think the one thing we've learned over the past few years, the general public haven't got the slightest notion about how things like breaking the GFA would have impact trade negotiations. As an example.
If people are going to be invited to vote of things like Brexit that have wide ranging consequences. Maybe we need a better educated population.
Because the GFA was always bollocks as I've explained. Brexiteers stand on the shoulders of giants.
Less educated, fact
It's true that many media studies graduates voted remain, I check with them as I go in the drive through.
You have rubbished the GFA , says it all really
Plenty of intelligent people have rubbished the GFA
Only those with an agenda. Ask the majority of people from NI what they think, your lack of understanding on this matter does you no favours.
You know my views on the GFA.
To gently prod us back on topic, it's internal borders we are discussing, and one international border that never functioned as a customs border anyway.
So what in the Sam Hill is the argument even about. It seems ridiculous.
So you're saying Brexit is a ridiculous pointless waste of time and money, and that it creates problems with the border between Ireland and Northern Ireland.
If only there was some way of knowing this prior to the referendum.
Don't know how you make that connection, Brexit was about saving 9 billion a year paying into a self
perpetuating ridiculous bureaucracy.
Why do you keep moaning about ‘Brussels’? Brexit is done, signed, great deal, get on with it and stop moaning
How about yourself, any tangible border issues as per the OP?
Get on with Brexit Chris, you knew what you voted for, it’s done, signed, over , moaning and crying about Brussels solves nothing . I have given you a tangible benefit, ‘gammon rage ‘ it’s the same as ‘salty tears’ and ‘irking remoaners’ so you will appreciate it’s validity
I see it more in terms of everyone knows there's nothing tangible for the EU to complain about re internal borders so the situation probably will drag on a bit until better IT systems are in place, and no one will lose out.
The EU has got more pressing matters to solve for its citizens.
I’ll help you with this Chris in terms you will understand.
If I use your skill set to the full and agree to let you clean my car for a tenner we have an agreement. Call it a Contract if you like. If you then only clean half my car you are then in breach of that contract.
I will be the first to complain about how you’ve not fulfilled your agreement so won’t be paying you the tenner.
Actually I’m more worried about all this rioting in the UK since we left the EU. Looks like the fabric of our society is disintegrating Chris.
If it continues we’ll be asking EU members to come over as peacekeepers. Who’d have thought? So sad to witness this meltdown but what else did we expect from a country in terminal decline . Are you actually trying to associate brexit with the riots now? ive heard it all now .What about the riots in Holland,Germany and poland are they all down to brexit too and in terminal decline? iv noticed the remainers are getting a bit carried away lately as I predicted lol
Is that because A. Brexit is a fantastic success. Or B. Brexit is a massive shit sandwich as expected?I wasn’t expecting an overnight success tho seems your judging things a bit to early as always mate
We had four years between the referendum and leaving. We've had a year and 3 months since we left.
We were told it would be an immediate success, with no downsides.
So far we've had only downsides. And no news of any upsides.
They're now saying might take ten years. If it's still a shit sandwich then, will you still be arguing that brexit is a good idea?arguing is that what I’m doing lol Okies bud if it’s shit in ten yrs il say it is and I’ll give you that apology you been calling for is that ok with you ?
Don't need an apology. And I'm not blaming you.
Just frustrating that we haven't learned anything. People still say that brexit is a good idea. What can you do eh!"like I keep saying tho what do you want from leave voters to all say it’s shit if they do does that make it better ? People on both sides constantly fighting does that make brexit work | |||
"like I keep saying tho what do you want from leave voters to all say it’s shit if they do does that make it better ? People on both sides constantly fighting does that make brexit work " ******************************* Maybe we ought to have a whip-round for them where everyone chucks in a hastily scribbled ...."OK you win, it's sh*t".... note.... Then hand 'em the collection tin and see if that settles their hash, eh.....??! | |||
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"I was doing my best to avoid it turning into yet another salty tears thread. Seems like even those educated folks with a couple of GCSEs can’t put their finger on a tangible problem with internal border arrangements." ************************** As we all know, salt can be very corrosive....(!) | |||
"I was doing my best to avoid it turning into yet another salty tears thread. Seems like even those educated folks with a couple of GCSEs can’t put their finger on a tangible problem with internal border arrangements." It’s breach of contract Chris. Your professors can explain it to you. No salty tears just a fact of contract law. | |||
"I was doing my best to avoid it turning into yet another salty tears thread. Seems like even those educated folks with a couple of GCSEs can’t put their finger on a tangible problem with internal border arrangements. It’s breach of contract Chris. Your professors can explain it to you. No salty tears just a fact of contract law. " Ah good, we are onto the subject of contract law, which I know rather a lot about - What is the ‘valuable consideration’ on offer to Brussels with the UK internal border treaty? | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent.
International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing.
Look at Climate accords for example, laughable.
Paris climate accord is not comparable to the good Friday agreement.
There are steps taken for countries that break international law. Plus the country loses trust in the eyes of the international community. Which would be important to avoid for any country desperate for some international trade agreements.
Can you think of any country that just binned all their trade agreements and is desperate to sign some more, and who would be looking to appear trustworthy to the international community?
All of them do, I stand by what I said, treaties are just international jollies for bibulous cretins.
As you can see with China, Burma, Saudi, even Venezuela for gods sake, trade takes place when there is money to be made. Not when governments sign treaties.
I can see why you voted for Brexit ,
I know this is a jibe. But I think the one thing we've learned over the past few years, the general public haven't got the slightest notion about how things like breaking the GFA would have impact trade negotiations. As an example.
If people are going to be invited to vote of things like Brexit that have wide ranging consequences. Maybe we need a better educated population.
Because the GFA was always bollocks as I've explained. Brexiteers stand on the shoulders of giants.
Less educated, fact
It's true that many media studies graduates voted remain, I check with them as I go in the drive through.
You have rubbished the GFA , says it all really
Plenty of intelligent people have rubbished the GFA
Only those with an agenda. Ask the majority of people from NI what they think, your lack of understanding on this matter does you no favours.
You know my views on the GFA.
To gently prod us back on topic, it's internal borders we are discussing, and one international border that never functioned as a customs border anyway.
So what in the Sam Hill is the argument even about. It seems ridiculous.
So you're saying Brexit is a ridiculous pointless waste of time and money, and that it creates problems with the border between Ireland and Northern Ireland.
If only there was some way of knowing this prior to the referendum.
Don't know how you make that connection, Brexit was about saving 9 billion a year paying into a self
perpetuating ridiculous bureaucracy.
Why do you keep moaning about ‘Brussels’? Brexit is done, signed, great deal, get on with it and stop moaning
How about yourself, any tangible border issues as per the OP?
Get on with Brexit Chris, you knew what you voted for, it’s done, signed, over , moaning and crying about Brussels solves nothing . I have given you a tangible benefit, ‘gammon rage ‘ it’s the same as ‘salty tears’ and ‘irking remoaners’ so you will appreciate it’s validity
I see it more in terms of everyone knows there's nothing tangible for the EU to complain about re internal borders so the situation probably will drag on a bit until better IT systems are in place, and no one will lose out.
The EU has got more pressing matters to solve for its citizens.
I’ll help you with this Chris in terms you will understand.
If I use your skill set to the full and agree to let you clean my car for a tenner we have an agreement. Call it a Contract if you like. If you then only clean half my car you are then in breach of that contract.
I will be the first to complain about how you’ve not fulfilled your agreement so won’t be paying you the tenner.
Actually I’m more worried about all this rioting in the UK since we left the EU. Looks like the fabric of our society is disintegrating Chris.
If it continues we’ll be asking EU members to come over as peacekeepers. Who’d have thought? So sad to witness this meltdown but what else did we expect from a country in terminal decline . Are you actually trying to associate brexit with the riots now? ive heard it all now .What about the riots in Holland,Germany and poland are they all down to brexit too and in terminal decline? iv noticed the remainers are getting a bit carried away lately as I predicted lol
Is that because A. Brexit is a fantastic success. Or B. Brexit is a massive shit sandwich as expected?I wasn’t expecting an overnight success tho seems your judging things a bit to early as always mate
We had four years between the referendum and leaving. We've had a year and 3 months since we left.
We were told it would be an immediate success, with no downsides.
So far we've had only downsides. And no news of any upsides.
They're now saying might take ten years. If it's still a shit sandwich then, will you still be arguing that brexit is a good idea?arguing is that what I’m doing lol Okies bud if it’s shit in ten yrs il say it is and I’ll give you that apology you been calling for is that ok with you ?
Don't need an apology. And I'm not blaming you.
Just frustrating that we haven't learned anything. People still say that brexit is a good idea. What can you do eh!like I keep saying tho what do you want from leave voters to all say it’s shit if they do does that make it better ? People on both sides constantly fighting does that make brexit work "I don't want leave voters to say anything. Why do you think I do? Well I agree. But while people refuse to acknowledge that brexit is the problem. What hope have we got to try to mitigate! | |||
"I was doing my best to avoid it turning into yet another salty tears thread. Seems like even those educated folks with a couple of GCSEs can’t put their finger on a tangible problem with internal border arrangements." It started and looks like finishing as a gammon rage thread, which is not good for your blood pressure . | |||
"I was doing my best to avoid it turning into yet another salty tears thread. Seems like even those educated folks with a couple of GCSEs can’t put their finger on a tangible problem with internal border arrangements. It’s breach of contract Chris. Your professors can explain it to you. No salty tears just a fact of contract law. Ah good, we are onto the subject of contract law, which I know rather a lot about - What is the ‘valuable consideration’ on offer to Brussels with the UK internal border treaty?" I know this ^^^ is the real meat and potatoes question, no one gonna have a crack at it ? | |||
"I was doing my best to avoid it turning into yet another salty tears thread. Seems like even those educated folks with a couple of GCSEs can’t put their finger on a tangible problem with internal border arrangements. It’s breach of contract Chris. Your professors can explain it to you. No salty tears just a fact of contract law. Ah good, we are onto the subject of contract law, which I know rather a lot about - What is the ‘valuable consideration’ on offer to Brussels with the UK internal border treaty?" Oh Chris you’re an expert in contract law now. Does this go with your expertise on customs whereby you run the governments own computer system., as you “prefer” that one? | |||
"I was doing my best to avoid it turning into yet another salty tears thread. Seems like even those educated folks with a couple of GCSEs can’t put their finger on a tangible problem with internal border arrangements. It’s breach of contract Chris. Your professors can explain it to you. No salty tears just a fact of contract law. Ah good, we are onto the subject of contract law, which I know rather a lot about - What is the ‘valuable consideration’ on offer to Brussels with the UK internal border treaty? I know this ^^^ is the real meat and potatoes question, no one gonna have a crack at it ?" You’re looking for a Google joust on the law of consideration. Really? It’s too time consuming and deflects from the debate. It would expose the governments intent on promise and undertaking for the purpose of the agreement showing they are in breach of contract. This is why court is being threatened. The consideration doesn’t in itself have definable value so it’s not a fair question is it Chris. You do love to look up long words to provoke don’t you. | |||
"I was doing my best to avoid it turning into yet another salty tears thread. Seems like even those educated folks with a couple of GCSEs can’t put their finger on a tangible problem with internal border arrangements. It’s breach of contract Chris. Your professors can explain it to you. No salty tears just a fact of contract law. Ah good, we are onto the subject of contract law, which I know rather a lot about - What is the ‘valuable consideration’ on offer to Brussels with the UK internal border treaty? I know this ^^^ is the real meat and potatoes question, no one gonna have a crack at it ? You’re looking for a Google joust on the law of consideration. Really? It’s too time consuming and deflects from the debate. It would expose the governments intent on promise and undertaking for the purpose of the agreement showing they are in breach of contract. This is why court is being threatened. The consideration doesn’t in itself have definable value so it’s not a fair question is it Chris. You do love to look up long words to provoke don’t you. " Not an uninteresting answer tbf. So there’s no valuable consideration on offer, I think that’s pretty clear, but does that poison the tree of contractual intent? Good question. | |||
"I was doing my best to avoid it turning into yet another salty tears thread. Seems like even those educated folks with a couple of GCSEs can’t put their finger on a tangible problem with internal border arrangements. It’s breach of contract Chris. Your professors can explain it to you. No salty tears just a fact of contract law. Ah good, we are onto the subject of contract law, which I know rather a lot about - What is the ‘valuable consideration’ on offer to Brussels with the UK internal border treaty? I know this ^^^ is the real meat and potatoes question, no one gonna have a crack at it ? You’re looking for a Google joust on the law of consideration. Really? It’s too time consuming and deflects from the debate. It would expose the governments intent on promise and undertaking for the purpose of the agreement showing they are in breach of contract. This is why court is being threatened. The consideration doesn’t in itself have definable value so it’s not a fair question is it Chris. You do love to look up long words to provoke don’t you. Not an uninteresting answer tbf. So there’s no valuable consideration on offer, I think that’s pretty clear, but does that poison the tree of contractual intent? Good question. " It’s 7.00 am and your still moaning about Brussels, worrying trend | |||
"I was doing my best to avoid it turning into yet another salty tears thread. Seems like even those educated folks with a couple of GCSEs can’t put their finger on a tangible problem with internal border arrangements. It’s breach of contract Chris. Your professors can explain it to you. No salty tears just a fact of contract law. Ah good, we are onto the subject of contract law, which I know rather a lot about - What is the ‘valuable consideration’ on offer to Brussels with the UK internal border treaty? I know this ^^^ is the real meat and potatoes question, no one gonna have a crack at it ? You’re looking for a Google joust on the law of consideration. Really? It’s too time consuming and deflects from the debate. It would expose the governments intent on promise and undertaking for the purpose of the agreement showing they are in breach of contract. This is why court is being threatened. The consideration doesn’t in itself have definable value so it’s not a fair question is it Chris. You do love to look up long words to provoke don’t you. Not an uninteresting answer tbf. So there’s no valuable consideration on offer, I think that’s pretty clear, but does that poison the tree of contractual intent? Good question. It’s 7.00 am and your still moaning about Brussels, worrying trend " It's OK men talk about tort law dont worry yourself about it | |||
"I was doing my best to avoid it turning into yet another salty tears thread. Seems like even those educated folks with a couple of GCSEs can’t put their finger on a tangible problem with internal border arrangements. It’s breach of contract Chris. Your professors can explain it to you. No salty tears just a fact of contract law. Ah good, we are onto the subject of contract law, which I know rather a lot about - What is the ‘valuable consideration’ on offer to Brussels with the UK internal border treaty? I know this ^^^ is the real meat and potatoes question, no one gonna have a crack at it ? You’re looking for a Google joust on the law of consideration. Really? It’s too time consuming and deflects from the debate. It would expose the governments intent on promise and undertaking for the purpose of the agreement showing they are in breach of contract. This is why court is being threatened. The consideration doesn’t in itself have definable value so it’s not a fair question is it Chris. You do love to look up long words to provoke don’t you. Not an uninteresting answer tbf. So there’s no valuable consideration on offer, I think that’s pretty clear, but does that poison the tree of contractual intent? Good question. It’s 7.00 am and your still moaning about Brussels, worrying trend It's OK men talk about tort law dont worry yourself about it "Only men? Moaning about Brussels won’t improve Brexit | |||
"I was doing my best to avoid it turning into yet another salty tears thread. Seems like even those educated folks with a couple of GCSEs can’t put their finger on a tangible problem with internal border arrangements. It’s breach of contract Chris. Your professors can explain it to you. No salty tears just a fact of contract law. Ah good, we are onto the subject of contract law, which I know rather a lot about - What is the ‘valuable consideration’ on offer to Brussels with the UK internal border treaty? I know this ^^^ is the real meat and potatoes question, no one gonna have a crack at it ? You’re looking for a Google joust on the law of consideration. Really? It’s too time consuming and deflects from the debate. It would expose the governments intent on promise and undertaking for the purpose of the agreement showing they are in breach of contract. This is why court is being threatened. The consideration doesn’t in itself have definable value so it’s not a fair question is it Chris. You do love to look up long words to provoke don’t you. Not an uninteresting answer tbf. So there’s no valuable consideration on offer, I think that’s pretty clear, but does that poison the tree of contractual intent? Good question. " Just for the record Tort law is nothing to do with this discussion. However your question has an interesting point because if the intent hasn’t been let’s say operated in full so there is a question over the contract being exercised. I would think the U.K. would hide behind their non action but given the agreement and confirmation in writing it would be a hard position to defend and therefore the EU would be in my humble opinion entitled to compensation whether that would monetary I’m not 100%. as it would be hard to prove individual financial loss. The intent to have a legal relationship was clear and confirmed in writing. | |||
"I was doing my best to avoid it turning into yet another salty tears thread. Seems like even those educated folks with a couple of GCSEs can’t put their finger on a tangible problem with internal border arrangements. It’s breach of contract Chris. Your professors can explain it to you. No salty tears just a fact of contract law. Ah good, we are onto the subject of contract law, which I know rather a lot about - What is the ‘valuable consideration’ on offer to Brussels with the UK internal border treaty? I know this ^^^ is the real meat and potatoes question, no one gonna have a crack at it ? You’re looking for a Google joust on the law of consideration. Really? It’s too time consuming and deflects from the debate. It would expose the governments intent on promise and undertaking for the purpose of the agreement showing they are in breach of contract. This is why court is being threatened. The consideration doesn’t in itself have definable value so it’s not a fair question is it Chris. You do love to look up long words to provoke don’t you. Not an uninteresting answer tbf. So there’s no valuable consideration on offer, I think that’s pretty clear, but does that poison the tree of contractual intent? Good question. Just for the record Tort law is nothing to do with this discussion. However your question has an interesting point because if the intent hasn’t been let’s say operated in full so there is a question over the contract being exercised. I would think the U.K. would hide behind their non action but given the agreement and confirmation in writing it would be a hard position to defend and therefore the EU would be in my humble opinion entitled to compensation whether that would monetary I’m not 100%. as it would be hard to prove individual financial loss. The intent to have a legal relationship was clear and confirmed in writing. " Any competent arbitration would have consideration of loss as a starting point. No legal process would continue without some prospect of reparation, most likely worst case is that both parties would be instructed to renogiate the internal border element and clarify a joint position. | |||
"I was doing my best to avoid it turning into yet another salty tears thread. Seems like even those educated folks with a couple of GCSEs can’t put their finger on a tangible problem with internal border arrangements. It’s breach of contract Chris. Your professors can explain it to you. No salty tears just a fact of contract law. Ah good, we are onto the subject of contract law, which I know rather a lot about - What is the ‘valuable consideration’ on offer to Brussels with the UK internal border treaty? I know this ^^^ is the real meat and potatoes question, no one gonna have a crack at it ? You’re looking for a Google joust on the law of consideration. Really? It’s too time consuming and deflects from the debate. It would expose the governments intent on promise and undertaking for the purpose of the agreement showing they are in breach of contract. This is why court is being threatened. The consideration doesn’t in itself have definable value so it’s not a fair question is it Chris. You do love to look up long words to provoke don’t you. Not an uninteresting answer tbf. So there’s no valuable consideration on offer, I think that’s pretty clear, but does that poison the tree of contractual intent? Good question. Just for the record Tort law is nothing to do with this discussion. However your question has an interesting point because if the intent hasn’t been let’s say operated in full so there is a question over the contract being exercised. I would think the U.K. would hide behind their non action but given the agreement and confirmation in writing it would be a hard position to defend and therefore the EU would be in my humble opinion entitled to compensation whether that would monetary I’m not 100%. as it would be hard to prove individual financial loss. The intent to have a legal relationship was clear and confirmed in writing. Any competent arbitration would have consideration of loss as a starting point. No legal process would continue without some prospect of reparation, most likely worst case is that both parties would be instructed to renogiate the internal border element and clarify a joint position. " No your missing the additional cost for importation which the EU are paying at their borders but the U.K. are not. There is an argument for compensation for monies paid during the undertaking to secure borders . That’s a big bill. Ask our export customs. Interestingly this week Border force has moved hundreds of staff to check trailers from Ireland and the U.K. as it’s “rumoured” the route is being exploited for smuggling non duty paid items such as alcohol and cigarettes . The cargo will move to containers as the border force don’t have enough staff to watch everything now. Must be rife in the East coast ports as non of our import trucks are being stopped . Illegal migrants must be having a ball . Brexit means taking back control !
The control seems to be in the hands of the drug and people smugglers at the moment. | |||
"Can anyone explain what the actual practical real problem is with delaying internal NI border checks? Why are Brussels so uppity about it? Is Brussels missing money because of it? Is there any unfair competitive advantage because of it? There must be something tangible, can’t just be politics surely? I think they are doing it to annoy you Chris, seems to be working
If there is something sensible posted by a sensible forum member then more people may be inclined to participate
Anything.... Tangible.....
Makes you think doesn't it?
I did post something tangible. The problem is that when people do put real facts up you just go off at a tangent.
International treaties? They haven't been worth anything since at least Molentov Ribbentrop don't know why that's even a thing.
Look at Climate accords for example, laughable.
Paris climate accord is not comparable to the good Friday agreement.
There are steps taken for countries that break international law. Plus the country loses trust in the eyes of the international community. Which would be important to avoid for any country desperate for some international trade agreements.
Can you think of any country that just binned all their trade agreements and is desperate to sign some more, and who would be looking to appear trustworthy to the international community?
All of them do, I stand by what I said, treaties are just international jollies for bibulous cretins.
As you can see with China, Burma, Saudi, even Venezuela for gods sake, trade takes place when there is money to be made. Not when governments sign treaties. "So our Peers used to be Democracies & now they are Dictatorships - interesting where you are going with Brexit... | |||
