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"I always thought they did!!!! I just hope they fly them the right way up ... nothing more off putting when you see them the wrong g way round!! R xx" Yes I agree, not many people know how to fly it the correct way. So annoying. | |||
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"Great news this morning. The government have outlined plans to have the Union flag flying on Government buildings every day - not just special days. About time! Our flag represents freedom, tolerance but most of all, the union between all the countries that make the UK." I wonder what the BBC will think of this  | |||
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"Great news this morning. The government have outlined plans to have the Union flag flying on Government buildings every day - not just special days. " They havent updated the Government website to reflect this change | |||
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" leave as youre just a turd in a swimming pool. " A turd can't leave a swimming pool. It has to be scooped out | |||
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"I wouldn’t describe the UK as a swimming pool. " More of a cess pit ? | |||
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"Standby for those who do nothing but hate this country and its flag but oddly enough,never leave. If you hate your flag then you're a hypocrite at best and dangerous at worse. leave as youre just a turd in a swimming pool. " Sorry, turd in a swimming pool really made me laugh  | |||
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"Standby for those who do nothing but hate this country and its flag but oddly enough,never leave. If you hate your flag then you're a hypocrite at best and dangerous at worse. leave as youre just a turd in a swimming pool. "  | |||
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"I’m not sure I could care less...in fact I wish they would get on with trying to fix the many problems in the country, for instance the promise they made to house 3000 rough sleepers that they seem to have forgotten about" Exactly. During this third lockdown the number of rough sleepers has increased by 36% | |||
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"Standby for those who do nothing but hate this country and its flag but oddly enough,never leave. If you hate your flag then you're a hypocrite at best and dangerous at worse. leave as youre just a turd in a swimming pool. " The Union Flag represents four countries. | |||
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Is it the most pressing matter on the table, no. But I doubt its held all of west minster up this week and other things have been discussed. | |||
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"Can't bloody win can they. People moaning were not proud of this great Isle any more so they do something that many other proud nations do and get accused of division
Is it the most pressing matter on the table, no. But I doubt its held all of west minster up this week and other things have been discussed. "Will you stop being sensible in political threads on Fab ? Its unnerving. | |||
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"Can't bloody win can they. People moaning were not proud of this great Isle any more so they do something that many other proud nations do and get accused of division
Is it the most pressing matter on the table, no. But I doubt its held all of west minster up this week and other things have been discussed.
Will you stop being sensible in political threads on Fab ? Its unnerving. "Oh.... OK! Fucking fuckers flying a fucking flag! | |||
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"I’m not sure I could care less...in fact I wish they would get on with trying to fix the many problems in the country, for instance the promise they made to house 3000 rough sleepers that they seem to have forgotten about Exactly. During this third lockdown the number of rough sleepers has increased by 36%" Exactly this. Forever hearing that we should “look after our own” and we actually make it worse for those that live here | |||
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"Can't bloody win can they. People moaning were not proud of this great Isle any more so they do something that many other proud nations do and get accused of division
Is it the most pressing matter on the table, no. But I doubt its held all of west minster up this week and other things have been discussed.
Will you stop being sensible in political threads on Fab ? Its unnerving.
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"I wouldn’t describe the UK as a swimming pool. More of a cess pit ?" You can always leave.im sure other better nations require your...erm..contribution. | |||
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"Great news this morning. The government have outlined plans to have the Union flag flying on Government buildings every day - not just special days. About time! Our flag represents freedom, tolerance but most of all, the union between all the countries that make the UK." Then why can I not say I'm English | |||
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"I wouldn’t describe the UK as a swimming pool. More of a cess pit ? You can always leave.im sure other better nations require your...erm..contribution." what about the ‘tolerance’ bit? | |||
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"But now the homeless will be able to look up at the town hall with pride every day as they see the Union Flag fluttering. " Doubt it. There's probably a it tough sleeping devices deployed. Why do people insist on polarising arguments? So because they're flying flags they're doing nothing for homelessness? Really? | |||
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"Great news this morning. The government have outlined plans to have the Union flag flying on Government buildings every day - not just special days. About time! Our flag represents freedom, tolerance but most of all, the union between all the countries that make the UK. Then why can I not say I'm English " Who says you can't? | |||
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"But now the homeless will be able to look up at the town hall with pride every day as they see the Union Flag fluttering. " Idiot comment. How is not flying the flag going to help them? We should be proud of the flag that represents the Union, freedom, tolerance and so much. It's about time people realised what a great country this really is. | |||
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"Fuck flags. Just something to divide us" If a flag offends people they need to seriously give their head a wobble. | |||
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"But now the homeless will be able to look up at the town hall with pride every day as they see the Union Flag fluttering. Idiot comment. How is not flying the flag going to help them? We should be proud of the flag that represents the Union, freedom, tolerance and so much. It's about time people realised what a great country this really is." Then why are some people suggesting that if people don’t like the flag they should leave the country if the flag represents freedom and tolerance? | |||
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"But now the homeless will be able to look up at the town hall with pride every day as they see the Union Flag fluttering. Doubt it. There's probably a it tough sleeping devices deployed. Why do people insist on polarising arguments? So because they're flying flags they're doing nothing for homelessness? Really? " Until recently I worked in social housing and there was a huge amount of work and money put into getting people off the streets during lockdown. Unfortunately a minority are complex cases who are very difficult to house. Also the figures quoted are based on public reports of rough sleepers rather than accurate recording. | |||
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"But now the homeless will be able to look up at the town hall with pride every day as they see the Union Flag fluttering. Idiot comment. How is not flying the flag going to help them? We should be proud of the flag that represents the Union, freedom, tolerance and so much. It's about time people realised what a great country this really is. Then why are some people suggesting that if people don’t like the flag they should leave the country if the flag represents freedom and tolerance? " Why does a thread about a flag turn into this when no one on this thread even made such a comment apart from you? | |||
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"But now the homeless will be able to look up at the town hall with pride every day as they see the Union Flag fluttering. Idiot comment. How is not flying the flag going to help them? We should be proud of the flag that represents the Union, freedom, tolerance and so much. It's about time people realised what a great country this really is. Then why are some people suggesting that if people don’t like the flag they should leave the country if the flag represents freedom and tolerance? Why does a thread about a flag turn into this when no one on this thread even made such a comment apart from you? " no I didn’t! Read above. | |||
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" Idiot comment. We should be proud of the flag that represents the Union, freedom, tolerance and so much. " Where is your tolerance ? | |||
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"Why do people love the flag? Genuinely asking. Surely there are more serious actions to be taken if you’re a patriotic person than hanging a flag? I don’t think we are taught enough about the history of our country enough in schools and we just sort of go about thinking that we are the world war champions and that should be enough for us as a nation to be respected. There is so much that people from these isles have achieved that you can be proud of without needing to fly the Union Jack which to me, represents elitism and division. " Other Nations are proud to display their emblems and celebrate their National days, but when we do it, it is wrong or elitism....why..., Our past is our past, no better, no worse than every other Nation. It is only a " Jack " when it is flown from the bow of one of Her Majesty's Warships. If you are going to slag it off, you might as well get it right. | |||
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"But now the homeless will be able to look up at the town hall with pride every day as they see the Union Flag fluttering. Doubt it. There's probably a it tough sleeping devices deployed. Why do people insist on polarising arguments? So because they're flying flags they're doing nothing for homelessness? Really? " Because the same people keep insisting that we start looking after our own but when the rough sleepers, the hungry kids, the overworked scared nurses et al ask for help they're ignored and the fake patriotism is hidden behind a soon to be obsolete flag. Any criticism is then met with the old favourite" if you don't like it you can leave" quote despite that right having been removed from 27 countries. Anyone who criticses the ridiculous priorities of this government doesn't mean they love their country any less than someone who loves hanging a bit of cloth from a flagpole! | |||
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"But now the homeless will be able to look up at the town hall with pride every day as they see the Union Flag fluttering. Idiot comment. How is not flying the flag going to help them? We should be proud of the flag that represents the Union, freedom, tolerance and so much. It's about time people realised what a great country this really is. Then why are some people suggesting that if people don’t like the flag they should leave the country if the flag represents freedom and tolerance? Why does a thread about a flag turn into this when no one on this thread even made such a comment apart from you? no I didn’t! Read above. " I have read the the whole thread. But it's been turned into something negative about people being told to leave the country, when no one on this thread has even said anyone should leave the country. You have stated something that no one has even said. | |||
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"Not my flag! Welsh Not British" And I'm sure the Welsh assembly will fly the Welsh flag, what exactly is your point here? | |||
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"I can't say I'm fussed about flags. The Union flag will mean different things to different people. A government can run a country well or badly with or without flags. I'm much more interested in what happens in the country than what symbols we attach to it. Luke" This | |||
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"Not my flag! Welsh Not British" Do you hold a Welsh passport? If not, and you hold a British one instead. Then you ARE British. | |||
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"But now the homeless will be able to look up at the town hall with pride every day as they see the Union Flag fluttering. Idiot comment. How is not flying the flag going to help them? We should be proud of the flag that represents the Union, freedom, tolerance and so much. It's about time people realised what a great country this really is. Then why are some people suggesting that if people don’t like the flag they should leave the country if the flag represents freedom and tolerance? Why does a thread about a flag turn into this when no one on this thread even made such a comment apart from you? no I didn’t! Read above. I have read the the whole thread. But it's been turned into something negative about people being told to leave the country, when no one on this thread has even said anyone should leave the country. You have stated something that no one has even said. " Who said this?...” You can always leave.im sure other better nations require your...erm..contribution...” Not me. | |||
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"Not my flag! Welsh Not British And I'm sure the Welsh assembly will fly the Welsh flag, what exactly is your point here? " Are you European? | |||
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"Standby for those who do nothing but hate this country and its flag but oddly enough,never leave. If you hate your flag then you're a hypocrite at best and dangerous at worse. leave as youre just a turd in a swimming pool. " Hate? Why do you assume that someone who dislikes patriotism and nationalism hates anything, least of all the country they live in? Personally I have deep mistrust for and dislike of any form of nationalism but I don't hate anyone or anything. Every single person on this planet is no more or less important than every other, if their 'worth' needs deciding it should be on the basis of their actions not the location of their birth (or any other arbitrary grouping). The physical geography of the UK is no more or less special than that of anywhere else in the planet (or indeed the universe). The social history likewise. Historical happenstance and coincidence did indeed lead to the UK being 'in the lead' during the industrial revolution but that in no way implies we are 'Great' anything nor that we have a higher quotient of intelligence, kindness, humanity or indeed a lower quotient of cruelty, selfishness or bigotry. I personally see no reason to celebrate my nationality and wish that others put a much emphasis on promoting humanity and kindness as they do the belief that an arbitrary line on a map has any meaning whatsoever. Feel free to call me a turd if you will. Mr | |||
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"The problem I have with the Union Flag is its links to the National Front and the BNP. " The union flag has been around a lot longer than the idiotic BNP | |||
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"The problem I have with the Union Flag is its links to the National Front and the BNP. " So because bad people use something we should not have a national identity unlike the rest of the world who have a flag? | |||
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"The problem I have with the Union Flag is its links to the National Front and the BNP. " So should we change our flag? Or take it back? | |||
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"Why do people love the flag? Genuinely asking. Surely there are more serious actions to be taken if you’re a patriotic person than hanging a flag? I don’t think we are taught enough about the history of our country enough in schools and we just sort of go about thinking that we are the world war champions and that should be enough for us as a nation to be respected. There is so much that people from these isles have achieved that you can be proud of without needing to fly the Union Jack which to me, represents elitism and division. Other Nations are proud to display their emblems and celebrate their National days, but when we do it, it is wrong or elitism....why..., Our past is our past, no better, no worse than every other Nation. It is only a " Jack " when it is flown from the bow of one of Her Majesty's Warships. If you are going to slag it off, you might as well get it right." No better or no worse than any other nation. Tell that to Indians, Kenyans and the Irish. Let’s not forget about the windrush generation. You can be proud of lots of this nations history but completely ignoring some of the worst atrocities simply isn’t good enough. Would also argue that this is too nuanced a debate for a swinging website. So for that reason I’ll leave it and let those that want to, shag the flag | |||
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"An excellent post Mr Nicebutverynaughty" | |||
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"Not my flag! Welsh Not British And I'm sure the Welsh assembly will fly the Welsh flag, what exactly is your point here? Are you European? " Have i posted twice that I'm not? Is this thread about the European flag? Is there even one of those? | |||
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"Not my flag! Welsh Not British" But isn’t Wales part of the uk? | |||
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"Not my flag! Welsh Not British And I'm sure the Welsh assembly will fly the Welsh flag, what exactly is your point here? Are you European? Have i posted twice that I'm not? Is this thread about the European flag? Is there even one of those? " 
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"Not my flag! Welsh Not British And I'm sure the Welsh assembly will fly the Welsh flag, what exactly is your point here? Are you European? Have i posted twice that I'm not? Is this thread about the European flag? Is there even one of those?
The question wasn't to you Evie, it was to the man who said he wasn't British he was Welsh. "Oh, OK sorry lol just you quoted my reoly so got confused | |||
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"our Government in Cardiff is now called Senedd a Parliment! Point is We in Yes Cymru and Yes Scotland have 39% and 54% who desire not to have the Butchers apron flag anymore! We wish for our independance from this dead Union!" That does sound very divisive. | |||
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"I honestly couldn't care less, it's just a flag
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"I honestly couldn't care less, it's just a flag
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"our Government in Cardiff is now called Senedd a Parliment! Point is We in Yes Cymru and Yes Scotland have 39% and 54% who desire not to have the Butchers apron flag anymore! We wish for our independance from this dead Union!" Are you speaking on behalf of every citizen of Wales then ?? | |||
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"I honestly couldn't care less, it's just a flag
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Nice arse."Thanks Jim. Grew it myself | |||
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"our Government in Cardiff is now called Senedd a Parliment! Point is We in Yes Cymru and Yes Scotland have 39% and 54% who desire not to have the Butchers apron flag anymore! We wish for our independance from this dead Union! Are you speaking on behalf of every citizen of Wales then ??" No.... Just 39% of them | |||
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"our Government in Cardiff is now called Senedd a Parliment! Point is We in Yes Cymru and Yes Scotland have 39% and 54% who desire not to have the Butchers apron flag anymore! We wish for our independance from this dead Union!" Well I'm Welsh and no one asked me this question, so how can that be a sure and certain true percentage of what people want if they aren't asking everyone? Do we really need more division? The world is going mental with division. I want the world to just hold steady for a bit now more than ever. | |||
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"Not for long! Our Independance Yes Cymru is growing fast " Is wales lining up for wexit then? | |||
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"Why do people love the flag? Genuinely asking. Surely there are more serious actions to be taken if you’re a patriotic person than hanging a flag? I don’t think we are taught enough about the history of our country enough in schools and we just sort of go about thinking that we are the world war champions and that should be enough for us as a nation to be respected. There is so much that people from these isles have achieved that you can be proud of without needing to fly the Union Jack which to me, represents elitism and division. Other Nations are proud to display their emblems and celebrate their National days, but when we do it, it is wrong or elitism....why..., Our past is our past, no better, no worse than every other Nation. It is only a " Jack " when it is flown from the bow of one of Her Majesty's Warships. If you are going to slag it off, you might as well get it right. No better or no worse than any other nation. Tell that to Indians, Kenyans and the Irish. Let’s not forget about the windrush generation. You can be proud of lots of this nations history but completely ignoring some of the worst atrocities simply isn’t good enough. Would also argue that this is too nuanced a debate for a swinging website. So for that reason I’ll leave it and let those that want to, shag the flag" You missed the Romans, the Vikings, the Nazis, All the genocides going on in some African states even now. The Middle East fighting.. But we shouldn't mention anything about them, should we...it just doesn't suit does it. Let's just gang up on Britain | |||
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"Not for long! Our Independance Yes Cymru is growing fast Is wales lining up for wexit then?" Brexit, Wexit, Scexit, the reunification of Ireland... its all happening! | |||
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"Not for long! Our Independance Yes Cymru is growing fast Is wales lining up for wexit then? Brexit, Wexit, Scexit, the reunification of Ireland... its all happening!" | |||
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"Not for long! Our Independance Yes Cymru is growing fast Is wales lining up for wexit then? Brexit, Wexit, Scexit, the reunification of Ireland... its all happening! " All we will need is rebuilding Hadrian’s wall an offas dyke and then having guards at the frontiers. It sounds like a lovely future. | |||
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"Yes 100% Yes Cymru 39% and growing fast Wales and Scotland do not want your Butchers Apron anymore " Oh bore off and start your own thread for Christ's sake. This is about flying the Union Flag on government buildings. No ones asking you to wear one as a towel. | |||
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"Yes 100% Yes Cymru 39% and growing fast Wales and Scotland do not want your Butchers Apron anymore " Are these Financially viable though? ( I’m not saying they are not as I don’t know and am asking) | |||
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"Ireland will never be unified. Scotland wont vote for independence and wales doesnt really matter. Let's be honest, I could run wales on my tea break. The Union is exactly that and if you feel it creates division then you're not obliged to stay in it. " Ireland will be, maybe not soon but it will be. As for the rest, I dont care , Scotland already bad their chance and blew it. | |||
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"Standby for those who do nothing but hate this country and its flag but oddly enough,never leave. If you hate your flag then you're a hypocrite at best and dangerous at worse. leave as youre just a turd in a swimming pool. " What a lovely sentiment  | |||
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"Standby for those who do nothing but hate this country and its flag but oddly enough,never leave. If you hate your flag then you're a hypocrite at best and dangerous at worse. leave as youre just a turd in a swimming pool. " I refuse to leave. Up to you if you want to stay in the pool with turds floating around | |||
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"You should all be proud of where you originate and whatever flag that country may bare. " I'm a bit of a mixed bag. Can I have a few flags?  | |||
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"You should all be proud of where you originate and whatever flag that country may bare. I'm a bit of a mixed bag. Can I have a few flags? "You can have as many as you like  | |||
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"You should all be proud of where you originate and whatever flag that country may bare. I'm a bit of a mixed bag. Can I have a few flags?
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"Welsh not British!" Okay. | |||
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"Welsh not British!" Not many of those flags flying this morning then | |||
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"You should all be proud of where you originate and whatever flag that country may bare. " You're right I love the Welsh flag I fly one on a pole in my front garden, although it is at half mast this morning after last night's defeat | |||
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"Cymru will be free" You could be the leader when it is free. You could be the Prince..Oops sorry an Englishman has already got that Title. | |||
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"Yea we lost because the English ref" No we didn't We lost because of our own lack of discipline Pearce is one of the best refs in the world We were the masters of our own downfall I'm afraid | |||
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"Cymru will be free" The support for Welsh Independence is gathering momentum I am certain we will achieve independence in my lifetime | |||
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"No one even wants us "You’re always welcome at mine  | |||
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"No one even wants us "I'll take you! | |||
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"You should all be proud of where you originate and whatever flag that country may bare. I'm a bit of a mixed bag. Can I have a few flags? "I can give you a pole? | |||
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"Yes Prince of Wales is fake title stole from Llywelyn ap Gruffudd at Cilmeri 11 of December in the year 1282" All titles are just made up throughout history. | |||
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"Hopefully Wales and Scotland vote for independence, save England a fortune in subsidies!, Both would be bankrupt in a couple of years" can we come back in pleeeeeeease we’re skint | |||
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"Hopefully Wales and Scotland vote for independence, save England a fortune in subsidies!, Both would be bankrupt in a couple of years can we come back in pleeeeeeease we’re skint "No more free prescriptions! | |||
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"It's bizarre how the English get so offended at the thought of Wales and Scotland leaving the UK "I honestly couldn't care less. | |||
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"Standby for those who do nothing but hate this country and its flag but oddly enough,never leave. If you hate your flag then you're a hypocrite at best and dangerous at worse. leave as youre just a turd in a swimming pool. The Union Flag represents four countries. "Which part of it is Welsh | |||
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"About time. But it should be enforced at all schools, businesses as well " Why ? | |||
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"Great news this morning. The government have outlined plans to have the Union flag flying on Government buildings every day - not just special days. About time! Our flag represents freedom, tolerance but most of all, the union between all the countries that make the UK." Yes it’s great news, and each nation should 100% feel proud to fly their own flag. However, let’s not kid ourselves knowing the history of the formation of the United Kingdom, and how the ultimate end of four nations: England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland is on the brink of separatism. | |||
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"Standby for those who do nothing but hate this country and its flag but oddly enough,never leave. If you hate your flag then you're a hypocrite at best and dangerous at worse. leave as youre just a turd in a swimming pool. Hate? Why do you assume that someone who dislikes patriotism and nationalism hates anything, least of all the country they live in? Personally I have deep mistrust for and dislike of any form of nationalism but I don't hate anyone or anything. Every single person on this planet is no more or less important than every other, if their 'worth' needs deciding it should be on the basis of their actions not the location of their birth (or any other arbitrary grouping). The physical geography of the UK is no more or less special than that of anywhere else in the planet (or indeed the universe). The social history likewise. Historical happenstance and coincidence did indeed lead to the UK being 'in the lead' during the industrial revolution but that in no way implies we are 'Great' anything nor that we have a higher quotient of intelligence, kindness, humanity or indeed a lower quotient of cruelty, selfishness or bigotry. I personally see no reason to celebrate my nationality and wish that others put a much emphasis on promoting humanity and kindness as they do the belief that an arbitrary line on a map has any meaning whatsoever. Feel free to call me a turd if you will. Mr" Well said | |||
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"About time. But it should be enforced at all schools, businesses as well Like in America the flag is found everywhere" In case we forget which country we're in or something? | |||
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"Can't bloody win can they. People moaning were not proud of this great Isle any more so they do something that many other proud nations do and get accused of division
Is it the most pressing matter on the table, no. But I doubt its held all of west minster up this week and other things have been discussed. " | |||
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"Wales and Scotland free like Eire! Cymru Am Byth! Alba Gu Brath! Eire Bo Bragh!" Ha ha free at last free at last blo baa bop di da blodwin ping pong!!!! A flag is a flag is a flag.!!! T | |||
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"About time. But it should be enforced at all schools, businesses as well Like in America the flag is found everywhere In case we forget which country we're in or something? " To remind ourselves we’re a united nation | |||
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"It's bizarre how the English get so offended at the thought of Wales and Scotland leaving the UK
I honestly couldn't care less. "That's refreshing | |||
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"Standby for those who do nothing but hate this country and its flag but oddly enough,never leave. If you hate your flag then you're a hypocrite at best and dangerous at worse. leave as youre just a turd in a swimming pool. The Union Flag represents four countries.
Which part of it is Welsh "None of it But we're quite happy with our flag | |||
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"Standby for those who do nothing but hate this country and its flag but oddly enough,never leave. If you hate your flag then you're a hypocrite at best and dangerous at worse. leave as youre just a turd in a swimming pool. The Union Flag represents four countries.
Which part of it is Welsh
None of it
But we're quite happy with our flag "Technically the Welsh are English , goes back to the 12th century | |||
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"About time. But it should be enforced at all schools, businesses as well Like in America the flag is found everywhere In case we forget which country we're in or something? To remind ourselves we’re a united nation "Maybe encouraging more unity might be a better start than flying bits of fabric. | |||
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"About time. But it should be enforced at all schools, businesses as well Why ?" Because of course America is an international symbol of democracy and freedom not bigotry corruption and politicians bought and paid for by corporations and we should all strive to be more like them ... 
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"About time. But it should be enforced at all schools, businesses as well Why ? Because of course America is an international symbol of democracy and freedom not bigotry corruption and politicians bought and paid for by corporations and we should all strive to be more like them ...
I really don't much like humans.
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"It's bizarre how the English get so offended at the thought of Wales and Scotland leaving the UK
I honestly couldn't care less.
That's refreshing "I think you'll find that this is a fairly common sentiment in England. 20 odd years ago when I moved down here I was amazed at the level of feeling about the English who from my experience largely couldn't give a fig one way or the other. It was a bit like finding out a bloke living down the road who you'd vaguely recognise as a neighbour has a wall in his house covered in photos of you with pins in their eyes
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"Standby for those who do nothing but hate this country and its flag but oddly enough,never leave. If you hate your flag then you're a hypocrite at best and dangerous at worse. leave as youre just a turd in a swimming pool. The Union Flag represents four countries.
Which part of it is Welsh
None of it
But we're quite happy with our flag
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"It's bizarre how the English get so offended at the thought of Wales and Scotland leaving the UK
I honestly couldn't care less.
That's refreshing
I think you'll find that this is a fairly common sentiment in England. 20 odd years ago when I moved down here I was amazed at the level of feeling about the English who from my experience largely couldn't give a fig one way or the other. It was a bit like finding out a bloke living down the road who you'd vaguely recognise as a neighbour has a wall in his house covered in photos of you with pins in their eyes
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"Standby for those who do nothing but hate this country and its flag but oddly enough,never leave. If you hate your flag then you're a hypocrite at best and dangerous at worse. leave as youre just a turd in a swimming pool. The Union Flag represents four countries.
Which part of it is Welsh
None of it
But we're quite happy with our flag "To be fair, its got a dragon, so who wouldnt be | |||
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"Standby for those who do nothing but hate this country and its flag but oddly enough,never leave. If you hate your flag then you're a hypocrite at best and dangerous at worse. leave as youre just a turd in a swimming pool. The Union Flag represents four countries.
Which part of it is Welsh
None of it
But we're quite happy with our flag
To be fair, its got a dragon, so who wouldnt be "It's fabulous I've never been bothered by not being represented on the Union flag one bit | |||
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"There’s a difference between hating the country and holding the government accountable btw. I love this country but our government are incompetent and are letting us all down majorly" Absolutely this. I love this country and the flag and all the great things that come with it, but the government right now as you say are incompetent. I made a similar comment online and was told “Well if you don’t like it here you should go back to your own country” they didn’t respond when I let them know I was born here... | |||
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"About time. But it should be enforced at all schools, businesses as well Why ? Because of course America is an international symbol of democracy and freedom not bigotry corruption and politicians bought and paid for by corporations and we should all strive to be more like them ...
I really don't much like humans.
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This flying it everywhere and enforced seems a bit brainwashy to me..."Indeed. Perhaps we should all be made to salute it every day too and chant some crap about ruling the world - what could possibly go wrong? Mr | |||
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"I honestly couldn't care less, it's just a flag
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"You should all be proud of where you originate and whatever flag that country may bare. I'm a bit of a mixed bag. Can I have a few flags? "Yes you can! I fly the Jamaica & U.K. flag, and some can’t stand it, but I couldn’t care less. | |||
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"About time. But it should be enforced at all schools, businesses as well Like in America the flag is found everywhere In case we forget which country we're in or something? To remind ourselves we’re a united nation
Maybe encouraging more unity might be a better start than flying bits of fabric."Flying bits of fabric is a great way to start! Think of the fortunes companies spend to advertise products, to give you a visual image and set your mind thinking........ | |||
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"Standby for those who do nothing but hate this country and its flag but oddly enough,never leave. If you hate your flag then you're a hypocrite at best and dangerous at worse. leave as youre just a turd in a swimming pool. The Union Flag represents four countries.
Which part of it is Welsh
None of it
But we're quite happy with our flag
Technically the Welsh are English , goes back to the 12th century
Someone really doesn't like the Welsh do they?? "I love all , but technically it is true | |||
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"I honestly couldn't care less, it's just a flag
LvM
^^^This. There are way more urgent and important things for the Govt to worry itself about."“Morning Boris! A few of us have been talking, and we think flying the Union Flag every day on all Government buildings would be a great way to show our solidarity and support of the Union. What do you think?” “Great idea! Get it sorted guys! Right, what’s next?” ............ | |||
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"It's bizarre how the English get so offended at the thought of Wales and Scotland leaving the UK
I honestly couldn't care less.
That's refreshing
I think you'll find that this is a fairly common sentiment in England. 20 odd years ago when I moved down here I was amazed at the level of feeling about the English who from my experience largely couldn't give a fig one way or the other. It was a bit like finding out a bloke living down the road who you'd vaguely recognise as a neighbour has a wall in his house covered in photos of you with pins in their eyes
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It's probably just a vocal minority who stand out "That'd be that other weird neighbour with a massive union jack on a flagpole in his garden and a smelly slobbery bulldog that he thinks looks 'ard even though the poor inbred deformed creature can barely breath enough to get off the sofa - there's something so compelling about symbolic animals huh?
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"It's bizarre how the English get so offended at the thought of Wales and Scotland leaving the UK
I honestly couldn't care less.
That's refreshing
I think you'll find that this is a fairly common sentiment in England. 20 odd years ago when I moved down here I was amazed at the level of feeling about the English who from my experience largely couldn't give a fig one way or the other. It was a bit like finding out a bloke living down the road who you'd vaguely recognise as a neighbour has a wall in his house covered in photos of you with pins in their eyes
Mr
It's probably just a vocal minority who stand out
That'd be that other weird neighbour with a massive union jack on a flagpole in his garden and a smelly slobbery bulldog that he thinks looks 'ard even though the poor inbred deformed creature can barely breath enough to get off the sofa - there's something so compelling about symbolic animals huh?
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"About time. But it should be enforced at all schools, businesses as well Like in America the flag is found everywhere In case we forget which country we're in or something? To remind ourselves we’re a united nation
Maybe encouraging more unity might be a better start than flying bits of fabric.
Flying bits of fabric is a great way to start! Think of the fortunes companies spend to advertise products, to give you a visual image and set your mind thinking........"Think of the fortunes that companies spend ensuring their trademarks are not associated with concepts or products that are not their own. Sadly, what a flag advertises to is not the same as what it advertises to me or anyone else and no amount of believing, or indeed wishing, that a flag is only a symbol of unity will make it so. Mr | |||
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"About time. But it should be enforced at all schools, businesses as well Like in America the flag is found everywhere In case we forget which country we're in or something? To remind ourselves we’re a united nation
Maybe encouraging more unity might be a better start than flying bits of fabric.
Flying bits of fabric is a great way to start! Think of the fortunes companies spend to advertise products, to give you a visual image and set your mind thinking........
Think of the fortunes that companies spend ensuring their trademarks are not associated with concepts or products that are not their own. Sadly, what a flag advertises to is not the same as what it advertises to me or anyone else and no amount of believing, or indeed wishing, that a flag is only a symbol of unity will make it so.
Mr"Agreed. We need to actually show ourselves to be these things - only then will our flag represent what we are. Asserting it loudly will not make it so. Think about any country you don't like, what they claim to be, and ask if their flag represents their claims. You'll probably say no. Sadly, work is hard and shouting while waving flags is easy. | |||
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"Yes 100% Yes Cymru 39% and growing fast Wales and Scotland do not want your Butchers Apron anymore Oh bore off and start your own thread for Christ's sake. This is about flying the Union Flag on government buildings. No ones asking you to wear one as a towel. " | |||
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"I honestly couldn't care less, it's just a flag
LvM
^^^This. There are way more urgent and important things for the Govt to worry itself about.
“Morning Boris! A few of us have been talking, and we think flying the Union Flag every day on all Government buildings would be a great way to show our solidarity and support of the Union. What do you think?”
“Great idea! Get it sorted guys! Right, what’s next?”
............ "But you know that's not how the Govt makes decisions. It'll have been discussed at some committees and by the Cabinet and it'll be presented in Parliament etc. Time wasting. Fly the flag, I really am ambivalent, but let's focus on what's important right now, eh? | |||
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"I honestly couldn't care less, it's just a flag
LvM
^^^This. There are way more urgent and important things for the Govt to worry itself about.
“Morning Boris! A few of us have been talking, and we think flying the Union Flag every day on all Government buildings would be a great way to show our solidarity and support of the Union. What do you think?”
“Great idea! Get it sorted guys! Right, what’s next?”
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But you know that's not how the Govt makes decisions. It'll have been discussed at some committees and by the Cabinet and it'll be presented in Parliament etc. Time wasting. Fly the flag, I really am ambivalent, but let's focus on what's important right now, eh?"I think this is a profound waste of time and a distraction. | |||
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"You should all be proud of where you originate and whatever flag that country may bare. I'm a bit of a mixed bag. Can I have a few flags?
Yes you can!
I fly the Jamaica & U.K. flag, and some can’t stand it, but I couldn’t care less. "Same. I'm born here, Parents are from Jamaica. Happily both!
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"You should all be proud of where you originate and whatever flag that country may bare. I'm a bit of a mixed bag. Can I have a few flags?
Yes you can!
I fly the Jamaica & U.K. flag, and some can’t stand it, but I couldn’t care less.
Same. I'm born here, Parents are from Jamaica. Happily both!
Doesn't mean that they're both above criticism though. As it's been pointed out, you don't love a country any less for calling out its flaws. "Absolutely! No country is perfect and I truly believe that one who can point out their counties flaws and wants to change them lives their country more than those who claim it’s flawless. | |||
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"I thought government buildings have been allowed to do this for years. I'm sure my local council building was doing it but not looked for ages. I remember several years ago there was a big argument when the council refused to fly it stating some law but eventually changed. Anyway good that it can be done. Not sure many countries would not fly their flags" Rest assured I will be checking Commonwealth countries buildings for compliance also when travel is allowed | |||
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"About time. But it should be enforced at all schools, businesses as well Like in America the flag is found everywhere In case we forget which country we're in or something? To remind ourselves we’re a united nation
Maybe encouraging more unity might be a better start than flying bits of fabric.
Flying bits of fabric is a great way to start! Think of the fortunes companies spend to advertise products, to give you a visual image and set your mind thinking........
Think of the fortunes that companies spend ensuring their trademarks are not associated with concepts or products that are not their own. Sadly, what a flag advertises to is not the same as what it advertises to me or anyone else and no amount of believing, or indeed wishing, that a flag is only a symbol of unity will make it so.
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Agreed.
We need to actually show ourselves to be these things - only then will our flag represent what we are.
Asserting it loudly will not make it so. Think about any country you don't like, what they claim to be, and ask if their flag represents their claims. You'll probably say no.
Sadly, work is hard and shouting while waving flags is easy."Inaswingdress - Im going to have to put you on my favourites list | |||
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"Dunno what we should fly. The country of my birth isn't represented on the Union Jack (Wales). I'm part Dutch Jew... Perhaps I'll design my own "I'm happy to accept the partial flag of my country of birth | |||
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"Standby for those who do nothing but hate this country and its flag but oddly enough,never leave. If you hate your flag then you're a hypocrite at best and dangerous at worse. leave as youre just a turd in a swimming pool. The Union Flag represents four countries.
Which part of it is Welsh "The Union flag Represents 3 Countries England,( St George cross) Scotland (St Andrews cross) Ireland,(St Patrick's cross) Wales is not represented as it is not a Sovereign state and not recognised by the UN. Wales was a principality of England when the Union Flag was formed. | |||
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"Standby for those who do nothing but hate this country and its flag but oddly enough,never leave. If you hate your flag then you're a hypocrite at best and dangerous at worse. leave as youre just a turd in a swimming pool. The Union Flag represents four countries.
Which part of it is Welsh
The Union flag Represents 3 Countries England,( St George cross) Scotland (St Andrews cross) Ireland,(St Patrick's cross)
Wales is not represented as it is not a Sovereign state and not recognised by the UN.
Wales was a principality of England when the Union Flag was formed."England had conquered Wales so the St.Georges Cross represents England and Wales. | |||
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"Great news this morning. The government have outlined plans to have the Union flag flying on Government buildings every day - not just special days. About time! Our flag represents freedom, tolerance but most of all, the union between all the countries that make the UK." Well I quite like the idea of flying the flag more often - I'm half French, My husband half Boise Idahoan. But I'm proud to be British first and English second. | |||
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