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"Well Brexit certainly doesn’t mean Brexit just yet. Turns out import checks from the EU may now not happen until 2022. I thought deal done and Brexit meant Brexit? The problem is the border service and customs aren’t ready at all. 30k vacancies still to be filled in the U.K. Private customs agents have no spare capacity to process paperwork as they can’t cope with just exports already. So they must be a lot of paperwork then! Remember the cutting of paperwork burden promised as a benefit of Brexit? So can I ask was Gove telling the truth when he said we are ready and it’s businesses fault? Or was he as lying when he said this is just teething problems and everything was flowing smoothly? Imports are only flowing smoothly because we haven’t had Brexit yet! FFS Just so this is clear British exporters have to pay extra costs to export both for customs certifications health and security checks and subsequent delays. Exporters from the EU to the U.K. do not have any customs to worry about for another year. What kind of level playing field has Boris constructed here? Is it on a ski slope? When he said seamless trade was it just for the EU but not the U.K.? What a complete and utter fucking mess! Lies, lies and yet more lies. Apologies for the repeat. iPad issue. " What you slag Boris off and you can't even run you own ipad! What a fucking joke, who's running your tech dept? You and you can't mange yourself, laughable!  (I am joking x) | |||
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"Well Brexit certainly doesn’t mean Brexit just yet. Turns out import checks from the EU may now not happen until 2022. I thought deal done and Brexit meant Brexit? The problem is the border service and customs aren’t ready at all. 30k vacancies still to be filled in the U.K. Private customs agents have no spare capacity to process paperwork as they can’t cope with just exports already. So they must be a lot of paperwork then! Remember the cutting of paperwork burden promised as a benefit of Brexit? So can I ask was Gove telling the truth when he said we are ready and it’s businesses fault? Or was he as lying when he said this is just teething problems and everything was flowing smoothly? Imports are only flowing smoothly because we haven’t had Brexit yet! FFS Just so this is clear British exporters have to pay extra costs to export both for customs certifications health and security checks and subsequent delays. Exporters from the EU to the U.K. do not have any customs to worry about for another year. What kind of level playing field has Boris constructed here? Is it on a ski slope? When he said seamless trade was it just for the EU but not the U.K.? What a complete and utter fucking mess! Lies, lies and yet more lies. Apologies for the repeat. iPad issue. What you slag Boris off and you can't even run you own ipad! What a fucking joke, who's running your tech dept? You and you can't mange yourself, laughable! (I am joking x)" I’m a bit slow!!  | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want." I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. " What, like talented remainers you mean? Lol that ship has sailed. OP says "promised less paperwork", well that's not true is it. We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet. The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks. | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. What, like talented remainers you mean? Lol that ship has sailed. OP says "promised less paperwork", well that's not true is it. We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet. The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks. " Please provide an example of vote leaving saying that there will be a rise in paperwork Even if the private sector steps in, who picks up the bill for that? Your statement that in two weeks there will be a private sector solution is noted and will be brought back up. | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. What, like talented remainers you mean? Lol that ship has sailed. OP says "promised less paperwork", well that's not true is it. We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet. The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks. Please provide an example of vote leaving saying that there will be a rise in paperwork Even if the private sector steps in, who picks up the bill for that? Your statement that in two weeks there will be a private sector solution is noted and will be brought back up." Only 8 posts for the old switcheroo to come in lol OP claimed we were promised less paperwork. I've picked you up on it, you now accept that's not true, not sure why we should therefore be inclined to assist you with answers to falsehoods. | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. What, like talented remainers you mean? Lol that ship has sailed. OP says "promised less paperwork", well that's not true is it. We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet. The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks. Please provide an example of vote leaving saying that there will be a rise in paperwork Even if the private sector steps in, who picks up the bill for that? Your statement that in two weeks there will be a private sector solution is noted and will be brought back up. Only 8 posts for the old switcheroo to come in lol OP claimed we were promised less paperwork. I've picked you up on it, you now accept that's not true, not sure why we should therefore be inclined to assist you with answers to falsehoods. " we were prmised no additional paper work, zip, nada, none, remember Boris in a meeting saying if theres any new paperwork, bring it to me and I'll throw it in the bin. You have now said that there would be minimal new paperwork, and the private sector would step in. In a matter of weeks. You are making stuff up. Again. | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. What, like talented remainers you mean? Lol that ship has sailed. OP says "promised less paperwork", well that's not true is it. We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet. The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks. Please provide an example of vote leaving saying that there will be a rise in paperwork Even if the private sector steps in, who picks up the bill for that? Your statement that in two weeks there will be a private sector solution is noted and will be brought back up. Only 8 posts for the old switcheroo to come in lol OP claimed we were promised less paperwork. I've picked you up on it, you now accept that's not true, not sure why we should therefore be inclined to assist you with answers to falsehoods. we were prmised no additional paper work, zip, nada, none, remember Boris in a meeting saying if theres any new paperwork, bring it to me and I'll throw it in the bin. You have now said that there would be minimal new paperwork, and the private sector would step in. In a matter of weeks. You are making stuff up. Again." Fake news | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. What, like talented remainers you mean? Lol that ship has sailed. OP says "promised less paperwork", well that's not true is it. We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet. The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks. Please provide an example of vote leaving saying that there will be a rise in paperwork Even if the private sector steps in, who picks up the bill for that? Your statement that in two weeks there will be a private sector solution is noted and will be brought back up. Only 8 posts for the old switcheroo to come in lol OP claimed we were promised less paperwork. I've picked you up on it, you now accept that's not true, not sure why we should therefore be inclined to assist you with answers to falsehoods. we were prmised no additional paper work, zip, nada, none, remember Boris in a meeting saying if theres any new paperwork, bring it to me and I'll throw it in the bin. You have now said that there would be minimal new paperwork, and the private sector would step in. In a matter of weeks. You are making stuff up. Again." No, he said that about UK Northern Ireland. Can't we just stick to factual stuff to debate rather than made up waffle? | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. What, like talented remainers you mean? Lol that ship has sailed. OP says "promised less paperwork", well that's not true is it. We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet. The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks. Please provide an example of vote leaving saying that there will be a rise in paperwork Even if the private sector steps in, who picks up the bill for that? Your statement that in two weeks there will be a private sector solution is noted and will be brought back up. Only 8 posts for the old switcheroo to come in lol OP claimed we were promised less paperwork. I've picked you up on it, you now accept that's not true, not sure why we should therefore be inclined to assist you with answers to falsehoods. we were prmised no additional paper work, zip, nada, none, remember Boris in a meeting saying if theres any new paperwork, bring it to me and I'll throw it in the bin. You have now said that there would be minimal new paperwork, and the private sector would step in. In a matter of weeks. You are making stuff up. Again. No, he said that about UK Northern Ireland. Can't we just stick to factual stuff to debate rather than made up waffle? " Here is the original quote "Well Brexit certainly doesn’t mean Brexit just yet. Turns out import checks from the EU may now not happen until 2022. I thought deal done and Brexit meant Brexit? The problem is the border service and customs aren’t ready at all. 30k vacancies still to be filled in the U.K. Private customs agents have no spare capacity to process paperwork as they can’t cope with just exports already. So they must be a lot of paperwork then! Remember the cutting of paperwork burden promised as a benefit of Brexit? So can I ask was Gove telling the truth when he said we are ready and it’s businesses fault? Or was he as lying when he said this is just teething problems and everything was flowing smoothly? Imports are only flowing smoothly because we haven’t had Brexit yet! FFS Just so this is clear British exporters have to pay extra costs to export both for customs certifications health and security checks and subsequent delays. Exporters from the EU to the U.K. do not have any customs to worry about for another year. What kind of level playing field has Boris constructed here? Is it on a ski slope? When he said seamless trade was it just for the EU but not the U.K.? What a complete and utter fucking mess! Lies, lies and yet more lies. Apologies for the repeat. iPad issue." No reference to NI | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. What, like talented remainers you mean? Lol that ship has sailed. OP says "promised less paperwork", well that's not true is it. We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet. The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks. " Your first line makes no sense so I’ll ignore that. Red tape cutting was a major selling factor by Boris for leave. Fact The loss of trade so far is just about to equal the fees of our total 40 year membership . Going forward the loss of tax revenue from banking funds moving out now equates to the annual fee so again certainly no better off there. Which professors told you within a few weeks IT I’m curious?? The fact that HMRC don’t have their system working means the private sector can’t create their systems to work with the HMRC . Curious to know how your solution will be working in a few weeks. Government have said next year now so you must be in a secret fast track somewhere. | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. What, like talented remainers you mean? Lol that ship has sailed. OP says "promised less paperwork", well that's not true is it. We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet. The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks. Please provide an example of vote leaving saying that there will be a rise in paperwork Even if the private sector steps in, who picks up the bill for that? Your statement that in two weeks there will be a private sector solution is noted and will be brought back up. Only 8 posts for the old switcheroo to come in lol OP claimed we were promised less paperwork. I've picked you up on it, you now accept that's not true, not sure why we should therefore be inclined to assist you with answers to falsehoods. we were prmised no additional paper work, zip, nada, none, remember Boris in a meeting saying if theres any new paperwork, bring it to me and I'll throw it in the bin. You have now said that there would be minimal new paperwork, and the private sector would step in. In a matter of weeks. You are making stuff up. Again. No, he said that about UK Northern Ireland. Can't we just stick to factual stuff to debate rather than made up waffle? Here is the original quote "Well Brexit certainly doesn’t mean Brexit just yet. Turns out import checks from the EU may now not happen until 2022. I thought deal done and Brexit meant Brexit? The problem is the border service and customs aren’t ready at all. 30k vacancies still to be filled in the U.K. Private customs agents have no spare capacity to process paperwork as they can’t cope with just exports already. So they must be a lot of paperwork then! Remember the cutting of paperwork burden promised as a benefit of Brexit? So can I ask was Gove telling the truth when he said we are ready and it’s businesses fault? Or was he as lying when he said this is just teething problems and everything was flowing smoothly? Imports are only flowing smoothly because we haven’t had Brexit yet! FFS Just so this is clear British exporters have to pay extra costs to export both for customs certifications health and security checks and subsequent delays. Exporters from the EU to the U.K. do not have any customs to worry about for another year. What kind of level playing field has Boris constructed here? Is it on a ski slope? When he said seamless trade was it just for the EU but not the U.K.? What a complete and utter fucking mess! Lies, lies and yet more lies. Apologies for the repeat. iPad issue." No reference to NI" I was referring to the Boris quote you have deliberately misquoted as you know | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. What, like talented remainers you mean? Lol that ship has sailed. OP says "promised less paperwork", well that's not true is it. We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet. The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks. Your first line makes no sense so I’ll ignore that. Red tape cutting was a major selling factor by Boris for leave. Fact The loss of trade so far is just about to equal the fees of our total 40 year membership . Going forward the loss of tax revenue from banking funds moving out now equates to the annual fee so again certainly no better off there. Which professors told you within a few weeks IT I’m curious?? The fact that HMRC don’t have their system working means the private sector can’t create their systems to work with the HMRC . Curious to know how your solution will be working in a few weeks. Government have said next year now so you must be in a secret fast track somewhere. " If you're going to claim facts then let's have a source. Even lefty salty remainer website politico doesn't claim a reduction in paperwork as a Brexit promise out of 15 promises it says were made. | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. What, like talented remainers you mean? Lol that ship has sailed. OP says "promised less paperwork", well that's not true is it. We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet. The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks. Please provide an example of vote leaving saying that there will be a rise in paperwork Even if the private sector steps in, who picks up the bill for that? Your statement that in two weeks there will be a private sector solution is noted and will be brought back up. Only 8 posts for the old switcheroo to come in lol OP claimed we were promised less paperwork. I've picked you up on it, you now accept that's not true, not sure why we should therefore be inclined to assist you with answers to falsehoods. we were prmised no additional paper work, zip, nada, none, remember Boris in a meeting saying if theres any new paperwork, bring it to me and I'll throw it in the bin. You have now said that there would be minimal new paperwork, and the private sector would step in. In a matter of weeks. You are making stuff up. Again. No, he said that about UK Northern Ireland. Can't we just stick to factual stuff to debate rather than made up waffle? Here is the original quote "Well Brexit certainly doesn’t mean Brexit just yet. Turns out import checks from the EU may now not happen until 2022. I thought deal done and Brexit meant Brexit? The problem is the border service and customs aren’t ready at all. 30k vacancies still to be filled in the U.K. Private customs agents have no spare capacity to process paperwork as they can’t cope with just exports already. So they must be a lot of paperwork then! Remember the cutting of paperwork burden promised as a benefit of Brexit? So can I ask was Gove telling the truth when he said we are ready and it’s businesses fault? Or was he as lying when he said this is just teething problems and everything was flowing smoothly? Imports are only flowing smoothly because we haven’t had Brexit yet! FFS Just so this is clear British exporters have to pay extra costs to export both for customs certifications health and security checks and subsequent delays. Exporters from the EU to the U.K. do not have any customs to worry about for another year. What kind of level playing field has Boris constructed here? Is it on a ski slope? When he said seamless trade was it just for the EU but not the U.K.? What a complete and utter fucking mess! Lies, lies and yet more lies. Apologies for the repeat. iPad issue." No reference to NI I was referring to the Boris quote you have deliberately misquoted as you know "Heres what you said and how I responded ===== We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet. The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks. ====== Please provide an example of vote leaving saying that there will be a rise in paperwork Even if the private sector steps in, who picks up the bill for that? Your statement that in two weeks there will be a private sector solution is noted and will be brought back up ===== So again, back up your statement with facts | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. What, like talented remainers you mean? Lol that ship has sailed. OP says "promised less paperwork", well that's not true is it. We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet. The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks. Please provide an example of vote leaving saying that there will be a rise in paperwork Even if the private sector steps in, who picks up the bill for that? Your statement that in two weeks there will be a private sector solution is noted and will be brought back up. Only 8 posts for the old switcheroo to come in lol OP claimed we were promised less paperwork. I've picked you up on it, you now accept that's not true, not sure why we should therefore be inclined to assist you with answers to falsehoods. we were prmised no additional paper work, zip, nada, none, remember Boris in a meeting saying if theres any new paperwork, bring it to me and I'll throw it in the bin. You have now said that there would be minimal new paperwork, and the private sector would step in. In a matter of weeks. You are making stuff up. Again. No, he said that about UK Northern Ireland. Can't we just stick to factual stuff to debate rather than made up waffle? Here is the original quote "Well Brexit certainly doesn’t mean Brexit just yet. Turns out import checks from the EU may now not happen until 2022. I thought deal done and Brexit meant Brexit? The problem is the border service and customs aren’t ready at all. 30k vacancies still to be filled in the U.K. Private customs agents have no spare capacity to process paperwork as they can’t cope with just exports already. So they must be a lot of paperwork then! Remember the cutting of paperwork burden promised as a benefit of Brexit? So can I ask was Gove telling the truth when he said we are ready and it’s businesses fault? Or was he as lying when he said this is just teething problems and everything was flowing smoothly? Imports are only flowing smoothly because we haven’t had Brexit yet! FFS Just so this is clear British exporters have to pay extra costs to export both for customs certifications health and security checks and subsequent delays. Exporters from the EU to the U.K. do not have any customs to worry about for another year. What kind of level playing field has Boris constructed here? Is it on a ski slope? When he said seamless trade was it just for the EU but not the U.K.? What a complete and utter fucking mess! Lies, lies and yet more lies. Apologies for the repeat. iPad issue." No reference to NI I was referring to the Boris quote you have deliberately misquoted as you know
Heres what you said and how I responded
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We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet.
The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks.
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Please provide an example of vote leaving saying that there will be a rise in paperwork
Even if the private sector steps in, who picks up the bill for that?
Your statement that in two weeks there will be a private sector solution is noted and will be brought back up
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So again, back up your statement with facts
"I asked you to provide sources for your claims, a reply of no you have to first is as usual hilarious. Because I'm such a good sport, and might and right is on my side, here we go, off the salty website, claim 1: "Trade with the EU will be tariff-free and involve minimal bureaucracy" So... Some bureaucracy exactly as I said. Nobody claimed a reduction. Please apologise. | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. What, like talented remainers you mean? Lol that ship has sailed. OP says "promised less paperwork", well that's not true is it. We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet. The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks. Please provide an example of vote leaving saying that there will be a rise in paperwork Even if the private sector steps in, who picks up the bill for that? Your statement that in two weeks there will be a private sector solution is noted and will be brought back up. Only 8 posts for the old switcheroo to come in lol OP claimed we were promised less paperwork. I've picked you up on it, you now accept that's not true, not sure why we should therefore be inclined to assist you with answers to falsehoods. we were prmised no additional paper work, zip, nada, none, remember Boris in a meeting saying if theres any new paperwork, bring it to me and I'll throw it in the bin. You have now said that there would be minimal new paperwork, and the private sector would step in. In a matter of weeks. You are making stuff up. Again. No, he said that about UK Northern Ireland. Can't we just stick to factual stuff to debate rather than made up waffle? Here is the original quote "Well Brexit certainly doesn’t mean Brexit just yet. Turns out import checks from the EU may now not happen until 2022. I thought deal done and Brexit meant Brexit? The problem is the border service and customs aren’t ready at all. 30k vacancies still to be filled in the U.K. Private customs agents have no spare capacity to process paperwork as they can’t cope with just exports already. So they must be a lot of paperwork then! Remember the cutting of paperwork burden promised as a benefit of Brexit? So can I ask was Gove telling the truth when he said we are ready and it’s businesses fault? Or was he as lying when he said this is just teething problems and everything was flowing smoothly? Imports are only flowing smoothly because we haven’t had Brexit yet! FFS Just so this is clear British exporters have to pay extra costs to export both for customs certifications health and security checks and subsequent delays. Exporters from the EU to the U.K. do not have any customs to worry about for another year. What kind of level playing field has Boris constructed here? Is it on a ski slope? When he said seamless trade was it just for the EU but not the U.K.? What a complete and utter fucking mess! Lies, lies and yet more lies. Apologies for the repeat. iPad issue." No reference to NI I was referring to the Boris quote you have deliberately misquoted as you know
Heres what you said and how I responded
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We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet.
The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks.
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Please provide an example of vote leaving saying that there will be a rise in paperwork
Even if the private sector steps in, who picks up the bill for that?
Your statement that in two weeks there will be a private sector solution is noted and will be brought back up
=====
So again, back up your statement with facts
I asked you to provide sources for your claims, a reply of no you have to first is as usual hilarious.
Because I'm such a good sport, and might and right is on my side, here we go, off the salty website, claim 1:
"Trade with the EU will be tariff-free and involve minimal bureaucracy"
So... Some bureaucracy exactly as I said. Nobody claimed a reduction.
Please apologise.
"why, it's you making stuff up? Part of your usual diversionary tactics I think you have become a little befuddled.  | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. What, like talented remainers you mean? Lol that ship has sailed. OP says "promised less paperwork", well that's not true is it. We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet. The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks. Please provide an example of vote leaving saying that there will be a rise in paperwork Even if the private sector steps in, who picks up the bill for that? Your statement that in two weeks there will be a private sector solution is noted and will be brought back up. Only 8 posts for the old switcheroo to come in lol OP claimed we were promised less paperwork. I've picked you up on it, you now accept that's not true, not sure why we should therefore be inclined to assist you with answers to falsehoods. we were prmised no additional paper work, zip, nada, none, remember Boris in a meeting saying if theres any new paperwork, bring it to me and I'll throw it in the bin. You have now said that there would be minimal new paperwork, and the private sector would step in. In a matter of weeks. You are making stuff up. Again. No, he said that about UK Northern Ireland. Can't we just stick to factual stuff to debate rather than made up waffle? Here is the original quote "Well Brexit certainly doesn’t mean Brexit just yet. Turns out import checks from the EU may now not happen until 2022. I thought deal done and Brexit meant Brexit? The problem is the border service and customs aren’t ready at all. 30k vacancies still to be filled in the U.K. Private customs agents have no spare capacity to process paperwork as they can’t cope with just exports already. So they must be a lot of paperwork then! Remember the cutting of paperwork burden promised as a benefit of Brexit? So can I ask was Gove telling the truth when he said we are ready and it’s businesses fault? Or was he as lying when he said this is just teething problems and everything was flowing smoothly? Imports are only flowing smoothly because we haven’t had Brexit yet! FFS Just so this is clear British exporters have to pay extra costs to export both for customs certifications health and security checks and subsequent delays. Exporters from the EU to the U.K. do not have any customs to worry about for another year. What kind of level playing field has Boris constructed here? Is it on a ski slope? When he said seamless trade was it just for the EU but not the U.K.? What a complete and utter fucking mess! Lies, lies and yet more lies. Apologies for the repeat. iPad issue." No reference to NI I was referring to the Boris quote you have deliberately misquoted as you know
Heres what you said and how I responded
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We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet.
The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks.
======
Please provide an example of vote leaving saying that there will be a rise in paperwork
Even if the private sector steps in, who picks up the bill for that?
Your statement that in two weeks there will be a private sector solution is noted and will be brought back up
=====
So again, back up your statement with facts
I asked you to provide sources for your claims, a reply of no you have to first is as usual hilarious.
Because I'm such a good sport, and might and right is on my side, here we go, off the salty website, claim 1:
"Trade with the EU will be tariff-free and involve minimal bureaucracy"
So... Some bureaucracy exactly as I said. Nobody claimed a reduction.
Please apologise.
why, it's you making stuff up? Part of your usual diversionary tactics
I think you have become a little befuddled. "Oh come on at least have a go at keeping the game going. You can't just give up after one feeble attempt at trying to prove I've said anything remotely contradictory. | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. What, like talented remainers you mean? Lol that ship has sailed. OP says "promised less paperwork", well that's not true is it. We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet. The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks. Please provide an example of vote leaving saying that there will be a rise in paperwork Even if the private sector steps in, who picks up the bill for that? Your statement that in two weeks there will be a private sector solution is noted and will be brought back up. Only 8 posts for the old switcheroo to come in lol OP claimed we were promised less paperwork. I've picked you up on it, you now accept that's not true, not sure why we should therefore be inclined to assist you with answers to falsehoods. we were prmised no additional paper work, zip, nada, none, remember Boris in a meeting saying if theres any new paperwork, bring it to me and I'll throw it in the bin. You have now said that there would be minimal new paperwork, and the private sector would step in. In a matter of weeks. You are making stuff up. Again. No, he said that about UK Northern Ireland. Can't we just stick to factual stuff to debate rather than made up waffle? Here is the original quote "Well Brexit certainly doesn’t mean Brexit just yet. Turns out import checks from the EU may now not happen until 2022. I thought deal done and Brexit meant Brexit? The problem is the border service and customs aren’t ready at all. 30k vacancies still to be filled in the U.K. Private customs agents have no spare capacity to process paperwork as they can’t cope with just exports already. So they must be a lot of paperwork then! Remember the cutting of paperwork burden promised as a benefit of Brexit? So can I ask was Gove telling the truth when he said we are ready and it’s businesses fault? Or was he as lying when he said this is just teething problems and everything was flowing smoothly? Imports are only flowing smoothly because we haven’t had Brexit yet! FFS Just so this is clear British exporters have to pay extra costs to export both for customs certifications health and security checks and subsequent delays. Exporters from the EU to the U.K. do not have any customs to worry about for another year. What kind of level playing field has Boris constructed here? Is it on a ski slope? When he said seamless trade was it just for the EU but not the U.K.? What a complete and utter fucking mess! Lies, lies and yet more lies. Apologies for the repeat. iPad issue." No reference to NI I was referring to the Boris quote you have deliberately misquoted as you know
Heres what you said and how I responded
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We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet.
The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks.
======
Please provide an example of vote leaving saying that there will be a rise in paperwork
Even if the private sector steps in, who picks up the bill for that?
Your statement that in two weeks there will be a private sector solution is noted and will be brought back up
=====
So again, back up your statement with facts
I asked you to provide sources for your claims, a reply of no you have to first is as usual hilarious.
Because I'm such a good sport, and might and right is on my side, here we go, off the salty website, claim 1:
"Trade with the EU will be tariff-free and involve minimal bureaucracy"
So... Some bureaucracy exactly as I said. Nobody claimed a reduction.
Please apologise.
why, it's you making stuff up? Part of your usual diversionary tactics
I think you have become a little befuddled.
Oh come on at least have a go at keeping the game going. You can't just give up after one feeble attempt at trying to prove I've said anything remotely contradictory.
"you lost the plot awhile back, you see things that aren't there and make stuff up. I genuinely worry. | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. What, like talented remainers you mean? Lol that ship has sailed. OP says "promised less paperwork", well that's not true is it. We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet. The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks. Your first line makes no sense so I’ll ignore that. Red tape cutting was a major selling factor by Boris for leave. Fact The loss of trade so far is just about to equal the fees of our total 40 year membership . Going forward the loss of tax revenue from banking funds moving out now equates to the annual fee so again certainly no better off there. Which professors told you within a few weeks IT I’m curious?? The fact that HMRC don’t have their system working means the private sector can’t create their systems to work with the HMRC . Curious to know how your solution will be working in a few weeks. Government have said next year now so you must be in a secret fast track somewhere. If you're going to claim facts then let's have a source. Even lefty salty remainer website politico doesn't claim a reduction in paperwork as a Brexit promise out of 15 promises it says were made. " Given Boris is on record as lying over 100 times the list was probably too long to print! Quotes “With less red tape for business and a more competitive tax environment it has been persuasively argued the British GBP would grow by 1.1% “ Ha ha “Put a bonfire to red tape to help UK firms tender for UK procurement contracts once free of EU regulations “ . Looking at the PPE procurement he’s really gone for that !! Not sure an American jeweller is U.K. business though. So now show me the IT solution . You make claims on a solution. I’m also interested are the software programs free and is HMRC process now going to be free and will HMRC pay for the increase in haulage costs? Sunlit uplands . | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. What, like talented remainers you mean? Lol that ship has sailed. OP says "promised less paperwork", well that's not true is it. We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet. The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks. Please provide an example of vote leaving saying that there will be a rise in paperwork Even if the private sector steps in, who picks up the bill for that? Your statement that in two weeks there will be a private sector solution is noted and will be brought back up. Only 8 posts for the old switcheroo to come in lol OP claimed we were promised less paperwork. I've picked you up on it, you now accept that's not true, not sure why we should therefore be inclined to assist you with answers to falsehoods. we were prmised no additional paper work, zip, nada, none, remember Boris in a meeting saying if theres any new paperwork, bring it to me and I'll throw it in the bin. You have now said that there would be minimal new paperwork, and the private sector would step in. In a matter of weeks. You are making stuff up. Again. No, he said that about UK Northern Ireland. Can't we just stick to factual stuff to debate rather than made up waffle? Here is the original quote "Well Brexit certainly doesn’t mean Brexit just yet. Turns out import checks from the EU may now not happen until 2022. I thought deal done and Brexit meant Brexit? The problem is the border service and customs aren’t ready at all. 30k vacancies still to be filled in the U.K. Private customs agents have no spare capacity to process paperwork as they can’t cope with just exports already. So they must be a lot of paperwork then! Remember the cutting of paperwork burden promised as a benefit of Brexit? So can I ask was Gove telling the truth when he said we are ready and it’s businesses fault? Or was he as lying when he said this is just teething problems and everything was flowing smoothly? Imports are only flowing smoothly because we haven’t had Brexit yet! FFS Just so this is clear British exporters have to pay extra costs to export both for customs certifications health and security checks and subsequent delays. Exporters from the EU to the U.K. do not have any customs to worry about for another year. What kind of level playing field has Boris constructed here? Is it on a ski slope? When he said seamless trade was it just for the EU but not the U.K.? What a complete and utter fucking mess! Lies, lies and yet more lies. Apologies for the repeat. iPad issue." No reference to NI I was referring to the Boris quote you have deliberately misquoted as you know
Heres what you said and how I responded
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We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet.
The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks.
======
Please provide an example of vote leaving saying that there will be a rise in paperwork
Even if the private sector steps in, who picks up the bill for that?
Your statement that in two weeks there will be a private sector solution is noted and will be brought back up
=====
So again, back up your statement with facts
I asked you to provide sources for your claims, a reply of no you have to first is as usual hilarious.
Because I'm such a good sport, and might and right is on my side, here we go, off the salty website, claim 1:
"Trade with the EU will be tariff-free and involve minimal bureaucracy"
So... Some bureaucracy exactly as I said. Nobody claimed a reduction.
Please apologise.
"Chris don't forget to apologise to me and others for 1. 10million solar panelled homes 2. Tower farms taking of over all most agriculture 3. 33% budget lie Stop asking for apologies if you refuse to offer them . I do when proven wrong or shown to be out of order. You either stop posting deflect or say oh you’re just talking soup now or another is all you can hear is noise , both of which are rude . So when it comes to manners you should get your own house in order first . | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. What, like talented remainers you mean? Lol that ship has sailed. OP says "promised less paperwork", well that's not true is it. We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet. The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks. Your first line makes no sense so I’ll ignore that. Red tape cutting was a major selling factor by Boris for leave. Fact The loss of trade so far is just about to equal the fees of our total 40 year membership . Going forward the loss of tax revenue from banking funds moving out now equates to the annual fee so again certainly no better off there. Which professors told you within a few weeks IT I’m curious?? The fact that HMRC don’t have their system working means the private sector can’t create their systems to work with the HMRC . Curious to know how your solution will be working in a few weeks. Government have said next year now so you must be in a secret fast track somewhere. If you're going to claim facts then let's have a source. Even lefty salty remainer website politico doesn't claim a reduction in paperwork as a Brexit promise out of 15 promises it says were made. Given Boris is on record as lying over 100 times the list was probably too long to print! Quotes “With less red tape for business and a more competitive tax environment it has been persuasively argued the British GBP would grow by 1.1% “ Ha ha “Put a bonfire to red tape to help UK firms tender for UK procurement contracts once free of EU regulations “ . Looking at the PPE procurement he’s really gone for that !! Not sure an American jeweller is U.K. business though. So now show me the IT solution . You make claims on a solution. I’m also interested are the software programs free and is HMRC process now going to be free and will HMRC pay for the increase in haulage costs? Sunlit uplands . " I've just Googled that first quote and nothing comes up... You arent making stuff up are you? | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. What, like talented remainers you mean? Lol that ship has sailed. OP says "promised less paperwork", well that's not true is it. We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet. The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks. Your first line makes no sense so I’ll ignore that. Red tape cutting was a major selling factor by Boris for leave. Fact The loss of trade so far is just about to equal the fees of our total 40 year membership . Going forward the loss of tax revenue from banking funds moving out now equates to the annual fee so again certainly no better off there. Which professors told you within a few weeks IT I’m curious?? The fact that HMRC don’t have their system working means the private sector can’t create their systems to work with the HMRC . Curious to know how your solution will be working in a few weeks. Government have said next year now so you must be in a secret fast track somewhere. If you're going to claim facts then let's have a source. Even lefty salty remainer website politico doesn't claim a reduction in paperwork as a Brexit promise out of 15 promises it says were made. Given Boris is on record as lying over 100 times the list was probably too long to print! Quotes “With less red tape for business and a more competitive tax environment it has been persuasively argued the British GBP would grow by 1.1% “ Ha ha “Put a bonfire to red tape to help UK firms tender for UK procurement contracts once free of EU regulations “ . Looking at the PPE procurement he’s really gone for that !! Not sure an American jeweller is U.K. business though. So now show me the IT solution . You make claims on a solution. I’m also interested are the software programs free and is HMRC process now going to be free and will HMRC pay for the increase in haulage costs? Sunlit uplands . I've just Googled that first quote and nothing comes up... You arent making stuff up are you? " ‘No downsides to Brexit ‘ | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. What, like talented remainers you mean? Lol that ship has sailed. OP says "promised less paperwork", well that's not true is it. We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet. The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks. Please provide an example of vote leaving saying that there will be a rise in paperwork Even if the private sector steps in, who picks up the bill for that? Your statement that in two weeks there will be a private sector solution is noted and will be brought back up. Only 8 posts for the old switcheroo to come in lol OP claimed we were promised less paperwork. I've picked you up on it, you now accept that's not true, not sure why we should therefore be inclined to assist you with answers to falsehoods. we were prmised no additional paper work, zip, nada, none, remember Boris in a meeting saying if theres any new paperwork, bring it to me and I'll throw it in the bin. You have now said that there would be minimal new paperwork, and the private sector would step in. In a matter of weeks. You are making stuff up. Again. No, he said that about UK Northern Ireland. Can't we just stick to factual stuff to debate rather than made up waffle? Here is the original quote "Well Brexit certainly doesn’t mean Brexit just yet. Turns out import checks from the EU may now not happen until 2022. I thought deal done and Brexit meant Brexit? The problem is the border service and customs aren’t ready at all. 30k vacancies still to be filled in the U.K. Private customs agents have no spare capacity to process paperwork as they can’t cope with just exports already. So they must be a lot of paperwork then! Remember the cutting of paperwork burden promised as a benefit of Brexit? So can I ask was Gove telling the truth when he said we are ready and it’s businesses fault? Or was he as lying when he said this is just teething problems and everything was flowing smoothly? Imports are only flowing smoothly because we haven’t had Brexit yet! FFS Just so this is clear British exporters have to pay extra costs to export both for customs certifications health and security checks and subsequent delays. Exporters from the EU to the U.K. do not have any customs to worry about for another year. What kind of level playing field has Boris constructed here? Is it on a ski slope? When he said seamless trade was it just for the EU but not the U.K.? What a complete and utter fucking mess! Lies, lies and yet more lies. Apologies for the repeat. iPad issue." No reference to NI I was referring to the Boris quote you have deliberately misquoted as you know
Heres what you said and how I responded
=====
We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet.
The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks.
======
Please provide an example of vote leaving saying that there will be a rise in paperwork
Even if the private sector steps in, who picks up the bill for that?
Your statement that in two weeks there will be a private sector solution is noted and will be brought back up
=====
So again, back up your statement with facts
I asked you to provide sources for your claims, a reply of no you have to first is as usual hilarious.
Because I'm such a good sport, and might and right is on my side, here we go, off the salty website, claim 1:
"Trade with the EU will be tariff-free and involve minimal bureaucracy"
So... Some bureaucracy exactly as I said. Nobody claimed a reduction.
Please apologise.
Chris don't forget to apologise to me and others for
1. 10million solar panelled homes
2. Tower farms taking of over all most agriculture
3. 33% budget lie
Stop asking for apologies if you refuse to offer them . I do when proven wrong or shown to be out of order. You either stop posting deflect or say oh you’re just talking soup now or another is all you can hear is noise , both of which are rude .
So when it comes to manners you should get your own house in order first .
"I'm flattered you keep a spreadsheet on me, I stand by all my claims. I'm an expert on agriculture and speak to many top farmers on this sort of thing. Actually I spoke to a customer about hydroponics this morning, discussed Peripumps if you want to look them up
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"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. What, like talented remainers you mean? Lol that ship has sailed. OP says "promised less paperwork", well that's not true is it. We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet. The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks. Your first line makes no sense so I’ll ignore that. Red tape cutting was a major selling factor by Boris for leave. Fact The loss of trade so far is just about to equal the fees of our total 40 year membership . Going forward the loss of tax revenue from banking funds moving out now equates to the annual fee so again certainly no better off there. Which professors told you within a few weeks IT I’m curious?? The fact that HMRC don’t have their system working means the private sector can’t create their systems to work with the HMRC . Curious to know how your solution will be working in a few weeks. Government have said next year now so you must be in a secret fast track somewhere. If you're going to claim facts then let's have a source. Even lefty salty remainer website politico doesn't claim a reduction in paperwork as a Brexit promise out of 15 promises it says were made. Given Boris is on record as lying over 100 times the list was probably too long to print! Quotes “With less red tape for business and a more competitive tax environment it has been persuasively argued the British GBP would grow by 1.1% “ Ha ha “Put a bonfire to red tape to help UK firms tender for UK procurement contracts once free of EU regulations “ . Looking at the PPE procurement he’s really gone for that !! Not sure an American jeweller is U.K. business though. So now show me the IT solution . You make claims on a solution. I’m also interested are the software programs free and is HMRC process now going to be free and will HMRC pay for the increase in haulage costs? Sunlit uplands . I've just Googled that first quote and nothing comes up... You arent making stuff up are you? " First quote guardian I’ve closed it now but I seem to think 2017 . Second is Daily Express just because I wanted to be sure you can verify with a paper you may read. This quote 2019 so very recent claim . | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. What, like talented remainers you mean? Lol that ship has sailed. OP says "promised less paperwork", well that's not true is it. We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet. The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks. Please provide an example of vote leaving saying that there will be a rise in paperwork Even if the private sector steps in, who picks up the bill for that? Your statement that in two weeks there will be a private sector solution is noted and will be brought back up. Only 8 posts for the old switcheroo to come in lol OP claimed we were promised less paperwork. I've picked you up on it, you now accept that's not true, not sure why we should therefore be inclined to assist you with answers to falsehoods. we were prmised no additional paper work, zip, nada, none, remember Boris in a meeting saying if theres any new paperwork, bring it to me and I'll throw it in the bin. You have now said that there would be minimal new paperwork, and the private sector would step in. In a matter of weeks. You are making stuff up. Again. No, he said that about UK Northern Ireland. Can't we just stick to factual stuff to debate rather than made up waffle? Here is the original quote "Well Brexit certainly doesn’t mean Brexit just yet. Turns out import checks from the EU may now not happen until 2022. I thought deal done and Brexit meant Brexit? The problem is the border service and customs aren’t ready at all. 30k vacancies still to be filled in the U.K. Private customs agents have no spare capacity to process paperwork as they can’t cope with just exports already. So they must be a lot of paperwork then! Remember the cutting of paperwork burden promised as a benefit of Brexit? So can I ask was Gove telling the truth when he said we are ready and it’s businesses fault? Or was he as lying when he said this is just teething problems and everything was flowing smoothly? Imports are only flowing smoothly because we haven’t had Brexit yet! FFS Just so this is clear British exporters have to pay extra costs to export both for customs certifications health and security checks and subsequent delays. Exporters from the EU to the U.K. do not have any customs to worry about for another year. What kind of level playing field has Boris constructed here? Is it on a ski slope? When he said seamless trade was it just for the EU but not the U.K.? What a complete and utter fucking mess! Lies, lies and yet more lies. Apologies for the repeat. iPad issue." No reference to NI I was referring to the Boris quote you have deliberately misquoted as you know
Heres what you said and how I responded
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We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet.
The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks.
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Please provide an example of vote leaving saying that there will be a rise in paperwork
Even if the private sector steps in, who picks up the bill for that?
Your statement that in two weeks there will be a private sector solution is noted and will be brought back up
=====
So again, back up your statement with facts
I asked you to provide sources for your claims, a reply of no you have to first is as usual hilarious.
Because I'm such a good sport, and might and right is on my side, here we go, off the salty website, claim 1:
"Trade with the EU will be tariff-free and involve minimal bureaucracy"
So... Some bureaucracy exactly as I said. Nobody claimed a reduction.
Please apologise.
Chris don't forget to apologise to me and others for
1. 10million solar panelled homes
2. Tower farms taking of over all most agriculture
3. 33% budget lie
Stop asking for apologies if you refuse to offer them . I do when proven wrong or shown to be out of order. You either stop posting deflect or say oh you’re just talking soup now or another is all you can hear is noise , both of which are rude .
So when it comes to manners you should get your own house in order first .
I'm flattered you keep a spreadsheet on me, I stand by all my claims. I'm an expert on agriculture and speak to many top farmers on this sort of thing. Actually I spoke to a customer about hydroponics this morning, discussed Peripumps if you want to look them up
" | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. What, like talented remainers you mean? Lol that ship has sailed. OP says "promised less paperwork", well that's not true is it. We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet. The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks. Please provide an example of vote leaving saying that there will be a rise in paperwork Even if the private sector steps in, who picks up the bill for that? Your statement that in two weeks there will be a private sector solution is noted and will be brought back up. Only 8 posts for the old switcheroo to come in lol OP claimed we were promised less paperwork. I've picked you up on it, you now accept that's not true, not sure why we should therefore be inclined to assist you with answers to falsehoods. we were prmised no additional paper work, zip, nada, none, remember Boris in a meeting saying if theres any new paperwork, bring it to me and I'll throw it in the bin. You have now said that there would be minimal new paperwork, and the private sector would step in. In a matter of weeks. You are making stuff up. Again. No, he said that about UK Northern Ireland. Can't we just stick to factual stuff to debate rather than made up waffle? Here is the original quote "Well Brexit certainly doesn’t mean Brexit just yet. Turns out import checks from the EU may now not happen until 2022. I thought deal done and Brexit meant Brexit? The problem is the border service and customs aren’t ready at all. 30k vacancies still to be filled in the U.K. Private customs agents have no spare capacity to process paperwork as they can’t cope with just exports already. So they must be a lot of paperwork then! Remember the cutting of paperwork burden promised as a benefit of Brexit? So can I ask was Gove telling the truth when he said we are ready and it’s businesses fault? Or was he as lying when he said this is just teething problems and everything was flowing smoothly? Imports are only flowing smoothly because we haven’t had Brexit yet! FFS Just so this is clear British exporters have to pay extra costs to export both for customs certifications health and security checks and subsequent delays. Exporters from the EU to the U.K. do not have any customs to worry about for another year. What kind of level playing field has Boris constructed here? Is it on a ski slope? When he said seamless trade was it just for the EU but not the U.K.? What a complete and utter fucking mess! Lies, lies and yet more lies. Apologies for the repeat. iPad issue." No reference to NI I was referring to the Boris quote you have deliberately misquoted as you know
Heres what you said and how I responded
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We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet.
The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks.
======
Please provide an example of vote leaving saying that there will be a rise in paperwork
Even if the private sector steps in, who picks up the bill for that?
Your statement that in two weeks there will be a private sector solution is noted and will be brought back up
=====
So again, back up your statement with facts
I asked you to provide sources for your claims, a reply of no you have to first is as usual hilarious.
Because I'm such a good sport, and might and right is on my side, here we go, off the salty website, claim 1:
"Trade with the EU will be tariff-free and involve minimal bureaucracy"
So... Some bureaucracy exactly as I said. Nobody claimed a reduction.
Please apologise.
Chris don't forget to apologise to me and others for
1. 10million solar panelled homes
2. Tower farms taking of over all most agriculture
3. 33% budget lie
Stop asking for apologies if you refuse to offer them . I do when proven wrong or shown to be out of order. You either stop posting deflect or say oh you’re just talking soup now or another is all you can hear is noise , both of which are rude .
So when it comes to manners you should get your own house in order first .
I'm flattered you keep a spreadsheet on me, I stand by all my claims. I'm an expert on agriculture and speak to many top farmers on this sort of thing. Actually I spoke to a customer about hydroponics this morning, discussed Peripumps if you want to look them up
"No spreadsheet Chris just a good memory for when you get your facts wrong or are rude . Some people call it blatant lies and ignorance but I’m not like some people .
Now yet again please advise of IT solution!
Or are you going to once again confirm you’re making it up?? Tut tut | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. What, like talented remainers you mean? Lol that ship has sailed. OP says "promised less paperwork", well that's not true is it. We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet. The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks. Your first line makes no sense so I’ll ignore that. Red tape cutting was a major selling factor by Boris for leave. Fact The loss of trade so far is just about to equal the fees of our total 40 year membership . Going forward the loss of tax revenue from banking funds moving out now equates to the annual fee so again certainly no better off there. Which professors told you within a few weeks IT I’m curious?? The fact that HMRC don’t have their system working means the private sector can’t create their systems to work with the HMRC . Curious to know how your solution will be working in a few weeks. Government have said next year now so you must be in a secret fast track somewhere. If you're going to claim facts then let's have a source. Even lefty salty remainer website politico doesn't claim a reduction in paperwork as a Brexit promise out of 15 promises it says were made. Given Boris is on record as lying over 100 times the list was probably too long to print! Quotes “With less red tape for business and a more competitive tax environment it has been persuasively argued the British GBP would grow by 1.1% “ Ha ha “Put a bonfire to red tape to help UK firms tender for UK procurement contracts once free of EU regulations “ . Looking at the PPE procurement he’s really gone for that !! Not sure an American jeweller is U.K. business though. So now show me the IT solution . You make claims on a solution. I’m also interested are the software programs free and is HMRC process now going to be free and will HMRC pay for the increase in haulage costs? Sunlit uplands . I've just Googled that first quote and nothing comes up... You arent making stuff up are you? First quote guardian I’ve closed it now but I seem to think 2017 . Second is Daily Express just because I wanted to be sure you can verify with a paper you may read. This quote 2019 so very recent claim . " Bahahaha I've now found the similar first quote from Boris, BBC website, he actually said it in August 2014 ahead of David Cameron's attempted renegotiation lol. Utterly irrelevant when that renegotiation failed. Pathetic frankly. | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. What, like talented remainers you mean? Lol that ship has sailed. OP says "promised less paperwork", well that's not true is it. We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet. The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks. Please provide an example of vote leaving saying that there will be a rise in paperwork Even if the private sector steps in, who picks up the bill for that? Your statement that in two weeks there will be a private sector solution is noted and will be brought back up. Only 8 posts for the old switcheroo to come in lol OP claimed we were promised less paperwork. I've picked you up on it, you now accept that's not true, not sure why we should therefore be inclined to assist you with answers to falsehoods. we were prmised no additional paper work, zip, nada, none, remember Boris in a meeting saying if theres any new paperwork, bring it to me and I'll throw it in the bin. You have now said that there would be minimal new paperwork, and the private sector would step in. In a matter of weeks. You are making stuff up. Again. No, he said that about UK Northern Ireland. Can't we just stick to factual stuff to debate rather than made up waffle? Here is the original quote "Well Brexit certainly doesn’t mean Brexit just yet. Turns out import checks from the EU may now not happen until 2022. I thought deal done and Brexit meant Brexit? The problem is the border service and customs aren’t ready at all. 30k vacancies still to be filled in the U.K. Private customs agents have no spare capacity to process paperwork as they can’t cope with just exports already. So they must be a lot of paperwork then! Remember the cutting of paperwork burden promised as a benefit of Brexit? So can I ask was Gove telling the truth when he said we are ready and it’s businesses fault? Or was he as lying when he said this is just teething problems and everything was flowing smoothly? Imports are only flowing smoothly because we haven’t had Brexit yet! FFS Just so this is clear British exporters have to pay extra costs to export both for customs certifications health and security checks and subsequent delays. Exporters from the EU to the U.K. do not have any customs to worry about for another year. What kind of level playing field has Boris constructed here? Is it on a ski slope? When he said seamless trade was it just for the EU but not the U.K.? What a complete and utter fucking mess! Lies, lies and yet more lies. Apologies for the repeat. iPad issue." No reference to NI I was referring to the Boris quote you have deliberately misquoted as you know
Heres what you said and how I responded
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We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet.
The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks.
======
Please provide an example of vote leaving saying that there will be a rise in paperwork
Even if the private sector steps in, who picks up the bill for that?
Your statement that in two weeks there will be a private sector solution is noted and will be brought back up
=====
So again, back up your statement with facts
I asked you to provide sources for your claims, a reply of no you have to first is as usual hilarious.
Because I'm such a good sport, and might and right is on my side, here we go, off the salty website, claim 1:
"Trade with the EU will be tariff-free and involve minimal bureaucracy"
So... Some bureaucracy exactly as I said. Nobody claimed a reduction.
Please apologise.
Chris don't forget to apologise to me and others for
1. 10million solar panelled homes
2. Tower farms taking of over all most agriculture
3. 33% budget lie
Stop asking for apologies if you refuse to offer them . I do when proven wrong or shown to be out of order. You either stop posting deflect or say oh you’re just talking soup now or another is all you can hear is noise , both of which are rude .
So when it comes to manners you should get your own house in order first .
"What's "33% budget lie" a reference to BTW, can't place it? | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. What, like talented remainers you mean? Lol that ship has sailed. OP says "promised less paperwork", well that's not true is it. We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet. The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks. Your first line makes no sense so I’ll ignore that. Red tape cutting was a major selling factor by Boris for leave. Fact The loss of trade so far is just about to equal the fees of our total 40 year membership . Going forward the loss of tax revenue from banking funds moving out now equates to the annual fee so again certainly no better off there. Which professors told you within a few weeks IT I’m curious?? The fact that HMRC don’t have their system working means the private sector can’t create their systems to work with the HMRC . Curious to know how your solution will be working in a few weeks. Government have said next year now so you must be in a secret fast track somewhere. If you're going to claim facts then let's have a source. Even lefty salty remainer website politico doesn't claim a reduction in paperwork as a Brexit promise out of 15 promises it says were made. Given Boris is on record as lying over 100 times the list was probably too long to print! Quotes “With less red tape for business and a more competitive tax environment it has been persuasively argued the British GBP would grow by 1.1% “ Ha ha “Put a bonfire to red tape to help UK firms tender for UK procurement contracts once free of EU regulations “ . Looking at the PPE procurement he’s really gone for that !! Not sure an American jeweller is U.K. business though. So now show me the IT solution . You make claims on a solution. I’m also interested are the software programs free and is HMRC process now going to be free and will HMRC pay for the increase in haulage costs? Sunlit uplands . I've just Googled that first quote and nothing comes up... You arent making stuff up are you? First quote guardian I’ve closed it now but I seem to think 2017 . Second is Daily Express just because I wanted to be sure you can verify with a paper you may read. This quote 2019 so very recent claim . Bahahaha I've now found the similar first quote from Boris, BBC website, he actually said it in August 2014 ahead of David Cameron's attempted renegotiation lol. Utterly irrelevant when that renegotiation failed. Pathetic frankly. " So Boris didn’t claim less paperwork whilst he was In government ? Are you saying because he changed sides he didn’t make the claim.? Did the express confirm in 2019 or is that just me making stuff up? I’m working so when I have time I’ll good for it properly for you. And for the third time of asking again pleases how the IT improvements ! Come on Chris you call others out for lying IT please reference it! | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. What, like talented remainers you mean? Lol that ship has sailed. OP says "promised less paperwork", well that's not true is it. We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet. The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks. Please provide an example of vote leaving saying that there will be a rise in paperwork Even if the private sector steps in, who picks up the bill for that? Your statement that in two weeks there will be a private sector solution is noted and will be brought back up. Only 8 posts for the old switcheroo to come in lol OP claimed we were promised less paperwork. I've picked you up on it, you now accept that's not true, not sure why we should therefore be inclined to assist you with answers to falsehoods. we were prmised no additional paper work, zip, nada, none, remember Boris in a meeting saying if theres any new paperwork, bring it to me and I'll throw it in the bin. You have now said that there would be minimal new paperwork, and the private sector would step in. In a matter of weeks. You are making stuff up. Again. No, he said that about UK Northern Ireland. Can't we just stick to factual stuff to debate rather than made up waffle? Here is the original quote "Well Brexit certainly doesn’t mean Brexit just yet. Turns out import checks from the EU may now not happen until 2022. I thought deal done and Brexit meant Brexit? The problem is the border service and customs aren’t ready at all. 30k vacancies still to be filled in the U.K. Private customs agents have no spare capacity to process paperwork as they can’t cope with just exports already. So they must be a lot of paperwork then! Remember the cutting of paperwork burden promised as a benefit of Brexit? So can I ask was Gove telling the truth when he said we are ready and it’s businesses fault? Or was he as lying when he said this is just teething problems and everything was flowing smoothly? Imports are only flowing smoothly because we haven’t had Brexit yet! FFS Just so this is clear British exporters have to pay extra costs to export both for customs certifications health and security checks and subsequent delays. Exporters from the EU to the U.K. do not have any customs to worry about for another year. What kind of level playing field has Boris constructed here? Is it on a ski slope? When he said seamless trade was it just for the EU but not the U.K.? What a complete and utter fucking mess! Lies, lies and yet more lies. Apologies for the repeat. iPad issue." No reference to NI I was referring to the Boris quote you have deliberately misquoted as you know
Heres what you said and how I responded
=====
We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet.
The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks.
======
Please provide an example of vote leaving saying that there will be a rise in paperwork
Even if the private sector steps in, who picks up the bill for that?
Your statement that in two weeks there will be a private sector solution is noted and will be brought back up
=====
So again, back up your statement with facts
I asked you to provide sources for your claims, a reply of no you have to first is as usual hilarious.
Because I'm such a good sport, and might and right is on my side, here we go, off the salty website, claim 1:
"Trade with the EU will be tariff-free and involve minimal bureaucracy"
So... Some bureaucracy exactly as I said. Nobody claimed a reduction.
Please apologise.
Chris don't forget to apologise to me and others for
1. 10million solar panelled homes
2. Tower farms taking of over all most agriculture
3. 33% budget lie
Stop asking for apologies if you refuse to offer them . I do when proven wrong or shown to be out of order. You either stop posting deflect or say oh you’re just talking soup now or another is all you can hear is noise , both of which are rude .
So when it comes to manners you should get your own house in order first .
What's "33% budget lie" a reference to BTW, can't place it? "You don’t keep a spreadsheet I’m gutted !! | |||
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"Also Chris I noticed you aren’t challenging my original post?! Is it too much or is it fact and you can’t deal with the facts ? Shortage of customs staff Extra costs Seamless trade . The only thing that’s debatable is when customs will eventually be introduced for imports . We had four trucks arrive today and none of them stopped . Brilliant for illegal imigrants. You want to debate what dates Boris said less red tape . Amazing priorities . " The Brexiteers' grasp on facts is, and always has been, tenuous. And is becoming increasingly more so as we go on, it would seem. | |||
"Also Chris I noticed you aren’t challenging my original post?! Is it too much or is it fact and you can’t deal with the facts ? Shortage of customs staff Extra costs Seamless trade . The only thing that’s debatable is when customs will eventually be introduced for imports . We had four trucks arrive today and none of them stopped . Brilliant for illegal imigrants. You want to debate what dates Boris said less red tape . Amazing priorities . " Well you put quotes in front of me so I double check them, sorry if that's inconvenient or makes it awkward for you. Claiming a quote is from 2017 when it's actually from 2014 is particularly egregious when it comes to Brexit matters. There are currently minor bureaucratic hurdles on imports that everyone expected. If Brussels wants to write letters about it then Ballyhoo good for them just makes them look even sillier to European citizens. I've discussed software with Cambridge C/S PhD students and there are plenty of practical solutions coming in the next few weeks. Great isn't it | |||
"Also Chris I noticed you aren’t challenging my original post?! Is it too much or is it fact and you can’t deal with the facts ? Shortage of customs staff Extra costs Seamless trade . The only thing that’s debatable is when customs will eventually be introduced for imports . We had four trucks arrive today and none of them stopped . Brilliant for illegal imigrants. You want to debate what dates Boris said less red tape . Amazing priorities . Well you put quotes in front of me so I double check them, sorry if that's inconvenient or makes it awkward for you. Claiming a quote is from 2017 when it's actually from 2014 is particularly egregious when it comes to Brexit matters. There are currently minor bureaucratic hurdles on imports that everyone expected. If Brussels wants to write letters about it then Ballyhoo good for them just makes them look even sillier to European citizens. I've discussed software with Cambridge C/S PhD students and there are plenty of practical solutions coming in the next few weeks. Great isn't it "more made up nonsense | |||
"Also Chris I noticed you aren’t challenging my original post?! Is it too much or is it fact and you can’t deal with the facts ? Shortage of customs staff Extra costs Seamless trade . The only thing that’s debatable is when customs will eventually be introduced for imports . We had four trucks arrive today and none of them stopped . Brilliant for illegal imigrants. You want to debate what dates Boris said less red tape . Amazing priorities . Well you put quotes in front of me so I double check them, sorry if that's inconvenient or makes it awkward for you. Claiming a quote is from 2017 when it's actually from 2014 is particularly egregious when it comes to Brexit matters. There are currently minor bureaucratic hurdles on imports that everyone expected. If Brussels wants to write letters about it then Ballyhoo good for them just makes them look even sillier to European citizens. I've discussed software with Cambridge C/S PhD students and there are plenty of practical solutions coming in the next few weeks. Great isn't it
more made up nonsense"Getting the date massively wrong on a Brexit quote is utterly contemptible | |||
"Also Chris I noticed you aren’t challenging my original post?! Is it too much or is it fact and you can’t deal with the facts ? Shortage of customs staff Extra costs Seamless trade . The only thing that’s debatable is when customs will eventually be introduced for imports . We had four trucks arrive today and none of them stopped . Brilliant for illegal imigrants. You want to debate what dates Boris said less red tape . Amazing priorities . Well you put quotes in front of me so I double check them, sorry if that's inconvenient or makes it awkward for you. Claiming a quote is from 2017 when it's actually from 2014 is particularly egregious when it comes to Brexit matters. There are currently minor bureaucratic hurdles on imports that everyone expected. If Brussels wants to write letters about it then Ballyhoo good for them just makes them look even sillier to European citizens. I've discussed software with Cambridge C/S PhD students and there are plenty of practical solutions coming in the next few weeks. Great isn't it "There are no import checks and no sign until next year now. so nonsense There are however a huge amount of paperwork processes for exporters right now and they cost . Regarding your software claim .As a matter of interest which software are they updating? You should obviously know this talking to professors ? | |||
"Also Chris I noticed you aren’t challenging my original post?! Is it too much or is it fact and you can’t deal with the facts ? Shortage of customs staff Extra costs Seamless trade . The only thing that’s debatable is when customs will eventually be introduced for imports . We had four trucks arrive today and none of them stopped . Brilliant for illegal imigrants. You want to debate what dates Boris said less red tape . Amazing priorities . Well you put quotes in front of me so I double check them, sorry if that's inconvenient or makes it awkward for you. Claiming a quote is from 2017 when it's actually from 2014 is particularly egregious when it comes to Brexit matters. There are currently minor bureaucratic hurdles on imports that everyone expected. If Brussels wants to write letters about it then Ballyhoo good for them just makes them look even sillier to European citizens. I've discussed software with Cambridge C/S PhD students and there are plenty of practical solutions coming in the next few weeks. Great isn't it
There are no import checks and no sign until next year now. so nonsense
There are however a huge amount of paperwork processes for exporters right now and they cost .
Regarding your software claim .As a matter of interest which software are they updating?
You should obviously know this talking to professors ?
"I prefer the Chief software from AEB although it's handling of some duty deferment accounts can be problematic depending on the bank. | |||
"Also Chris I noticed you aren’t challenging my original post?! Is it too much or is it fact and you can’t deal with the facts ? Shortage of customs staff Extra costs Seamless trade . The only thing that’s debatable is when customs will eventually be introduced for imports . We had four trucks arrive today and none of them stopped . Brilliant for illegal imigrants. You want to debate what dates Boris said less red tape . Amazing priorities . Well you put quotes in front of me so I double check them, sorry if that's inconvenient or makes it awkward for you. Claiming a quote is from 2017 when it's actually from 2014 is particularly egregious when it comes to Brexit matters. There are currently minor bureaucratic hurdles on imports that everyone expected. If Brussels wants to write letters about it then Ballyhoo good for them just makes them look even sillier to European citizens. I've discussed software with Cambridge C/S PhD students and there are plenty of practical solutions coming in the next few weeks. Great isn't it
There are no import checks and no sign until next year now. so nonsense
There are however a huge amount of paperwork processes for exporters right now and they cost .
Regarding your software claim .As a matter of interest which software are they updating?
You should obviously know this talking to professors ?
I prefer the Chief software from AEB although it's handling of some duty deferment accounts can be problematic depending on the bank. "Oh dear Chris you need to speak with real professors not those in your head. You’ve obviously googled that or asked a friend not a professor as they would know the following. The old system is Chief and its memory has been expanded but is not being developed . The new system is called CDS. It has been in development for 5 years and no end in sight. Software developers wil not work on anything relating to chief as it’s will soon be redundant. They cannot work on software relating to CDS as it doesn’t work yet! You’re not much of an exporter really are you. | |||
"Also Chris I noticed you aren’t challenging my original post?! Is it too much or is it fact and you can’t deal with the facts ? Shortage of customs staff Extra costs Seamless trade . The only thing that’s debatable is when customs will eventually be introduced for imports . We had four trucks arrive today and none of them stopped . Brilliant for illegal imigrants. You want to debate what dates Boris said less red tape . Amazing priorities . Well you put quotes in front of me so I double check them, sorry if that's inconvenient or makes it awkward for you. Claiming a quote is from 2017 when it's actually from 2014 is particularly egregious when it comes to Brexit matters. There are currently minor bureaucratic hurdles on imports that everyone expected. If Brussels wants to write letters about it then Ballyhoo good for them just makes them look even sillier to European citizens. I've discussed software with Cambridge C/S PhD students and there are plenty of practical solutions coming in the next few weeks. Great isn't it
There are no import checks and no sign until next year now. so nonsense
There are however a huge amount of paperwork processes for exporters right now and they cost .
Regarding your software claim .As a matter of interest which software are they updating?
You should obviously know this talking to professors ?
I prefer the Chief software from AEB although it's handling of some duty deferment accounts can be problematic depending on the bank.
Oh dear Chris you need to speak with real professors not those in your head.
You’ve obviously googled that or asked a friend not a professor as they would know the following.
The old system is Chief and its memory has been expanded but is not being developed .
The new system is called CDS. It has been in development for 5 years and no end in sight.
Software developers wil not work on anything relating to chief as it’s will soon be redundant.
They cannot work on software relating to CDS as it doesn’t work yet!
You’re not much of an exporter really are you. "eBay not count? | |||
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"Google is not Chris’ friend today! "I'm shocked given the IT support he gets | |||
"Well Brexit certainly doesn’t mean Brexit just yet. Turns out import checks from the EU may now not happen until 2022. I thought deal done and Brexit meant Brexit? The problem is the border service and customs aren’t ready at all. 30k vacancies still to be filled in the U.K. Private customs agents have no spare capacity to process paperwork as they can’t cope with just exports already. So they must be a lot of paperwork then! Remember the cutting of paperwork burden promised as a benefit of Brexit? So can I ask was Gove telling the truth when he said we are ready and it’s businesses fault? Or was he as lying when he said this is just teething problems and everything was flowing smoothly? Imports are only flowing smoothly because we haven’t had Brexit yet! FFS Just so this is clear British exporters have to pay extra costs to export both for customs certifications health and security checks and subsequent delays. Exporters from the EU to the U.K. do not have any customs to worry about for another year. What kind of level playing field has Boris constructed here? Is it on a ski slope? When he said seamless trade was it just for the EU but not the U.K.? What a complete and utter fucking mess! Lies, lies and yet more lies. Apologies for the repeat. iPad issue. " With a few exceptions most exporters have simply adopted to changing circumstances and carried carried on as before with a small amount of extra paperwork . I have yet to hear of many companies either laying off workers or closing down because of this issue . Boris Johnson negotiated the best possible deal in the circumstances so we can hardly blame him for any issues which exporters may have Things would be very different if those who choose to obstruct Brexit at every opportunity had instead accepted the result of the referendum and devoted their resources to obtaining the best possible deal for the UK . Those who choose to obstruct Brexit are resonsible for not allowing the uk sufficient time to prepare for the post Brexit regime . Considering that a deal was only struck on Christmas eve , the transition has gone very well in the circumstances . | |||
"Well Brexit certainly doesn’t mean Brexit just yet. Turns out import checks from the EU may now not happen until 2022. I thought deal done and Brexit meant Brexit? The problem is the border service and customs aren’t ready at all. 30k vacancies still to be filled in the U.K. Private customs agents have no spare capacity to process paperwork as they can’t cope with just exports already. So they must be a lot of paperwork then! Remember the cutting of paperwork burden promised as a benefit of Brexit? So can I ask was Gove telling the truth when he said we are ready and it’s businesses fault? Or was he as lying when he said this is just teething problems and everything was flowing smoothly? Imports are only flowing smoothly because we haven’t had Brexit yet! FFS Just so this is clear British exporters have to pay extra costs to export both for customs certifications health and security checks and subsequent delays. Exporters from the EU to the U.K. do not have any customs to worry about for another year. What kind of level playing field has Boris constructed here? Is it on a ski slope? When he said seamless trade was it just for the EU but not the U.K.? What a complete and utter fucking mess! Lies, lies and yet more lies. Apologies for the repeat. iPad issue. With a few exceptions most exporters have simply adopted to changing circumstances and carried carried on as before with a small amount of extra paperwork . I have yet to hear of many companies either laying off workers or closing down because of this issue . Boris Johnson negotiated the best possible deal in the circumstances so we can hardly blame him for any issues which exporters may have Things would be very different if those who choose to obstruct Brexit at every opportunity had instead accepted the result of the referendum and devoted their resources to obtaining the best possible deal for the UK . Those who choose to obstruct Brexit are resonsible for not allowing the uk sufficient time to prepare for the post Brexit regime . Considering that a deal was only struck on Christmas eve , the transition has gone very well in the circumstances . " Its amazing it is how easy it is to just rewrite history and invent stuff up that never happened. | |||
"Also Chris I noticed you aren’t challenging my original post?! Is it too much or is it fact and you can’t deal with the facts ? Shortage of customs staff Extra costs Seamless trade . The only thing that’s debatable is when customs will eventually be introduced for imports . We had four trucks arrive today and none of them stopped . Brilliant for illegal imigrants. You want to debate what dates Boris said less red tape . Amazing priorities . Well you put quotes in front of me so I double check them, sorry if that's inconvenient or makes it awkward for you. Claiming a quote is from 2017 when it's actually from 2014 is particularly egregious when it comes to Brexit matters. There are currently minor bureaucratic hurdles on imports that everyone expected. If Brussels wants to write letters about it then Ballyhoo good for them just makes them look even sillier to European citizens. I've discussed software with Cambridge C/S PhD students and there are plenty of practical solutions coming in the next few weeks. Great isn't it
There are no import checks and no sign until next year now. so nonsense
There are however a huge amount of paperwork processes for exporters right now and they cost .
Regarding your software claim .As a matter of interest which software are they updating?
You should obviously know this talking to professors ?
I prefer the Chief software from AEB although it's handling of some duty deferment accounts can be problematic depending on the bank.
Oh dear Chris you need to speak with real professors not those in your head.
You’ve obviously googled that or asked a friend not a professor as they would know the following.
The old system is Chief and its memory has been expanded but is not being developed .
The new system is called CDS. It has been in development for 5 years and no end in sight.
Software developers wil not work on anything relating to chief as it’s will soon be redundant.
They cannot work on software relating to CDS as it doesn’t work yet!
You’re not much of an exporter really are you. "I’m well aware of CDS thanks I know a couple of the top coders involved with it. Your info on Chief development is wrong there’s plenty of ongoing development I won’t bore you with it. | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. What, like talented remainers you mean? Lol that ship has sailed. OP says "promised less paperwork", well that's not true is it. We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet. The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks. Your first line makes no sense so I’ll ignore that. Red tape cutting was a major selling factor by Boris for leave. Fact The loss of trade so far is just about to equal the fees of our total 40 year membership . Going forward the loss of tax revenue from banking funds moving out now equates to the annual fee so again certainly no better off there. Which professors told you within a few weeks IT I’m curious?? The fact that HMRC don’t have their system working means the private sector can’t create their systems to work with the HMRC . Curious to know how your solution will be working in a few weeks. Government have said next year now so you must be in a secret fast track somewhere. " However to make any meaningfull analysis of the loss of trade we would need to adjust it for various seasonal factors such as stocking up before Xmas and the impact of Covid . Did we sell to other countries outside the EU intead ? . Have any companies closed because of this or laid workers off . ? I am assuming that any progressive company will simply accept the change of circumstances , adapt and carry on as normal . When we refer to loss of trade are we referring to the gross value or the operating margin on the trade concerned . The stock market has risen strongly this year , so we can probably conclude that those investing money do not agree with the merchants of doom and gloom . | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. What, like talented remainers you mean? Lol that ship has sailed. OP says "promised less paperwork", well that's not true is it. We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet. The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks. Your first line makes no sense so I’ll ignore that. Red tape cutting was a major selling factor by Boris for leave. Fact The loss of trade so far is just about to equal the fees of our total 40 year membership . Going forward the loss of tax revenue from banking funds moving out now equates to the annual fee so again certainly no better off there. Which professors told you within a few weeks IT I’m curious?? The fact that HMRC don’t have their system working means the private sector can’t create their systems to work with the HMRC . Curious to know how your solution will be working in a few weeks. Government have said next year now so you must be in a secret fast track somewhere. However to make any meaningfull analysis of the loss of trade we would need to adjust it for various seasonal factors such as stocking up before Xmas and the impact of Covid . Did we sell to other countries outside the EU intead ? . Have any companies closed because of this or laid workers off . ? I am assuming that any progressive company will simply accept the change of circumstances , adapt and carry on as normal . When we refer to loss of trade are we referring to the gross value or the operating margin on the trade concerned . The stock market has risen strongly this year , so we can probably conclude that those investing money do not agree with the merchants of doom and gloom . " Pat’s back - another new profile. | |||
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"Also Chris I noticed you aren’t challenging my original post?! Is it too much or is it fact and you can’t deal with the facts ? Shortage of customs staff Extra costs Seamless trade . The only thing that’s debatable is when customs will eventually be introduced for imports . We had four trucks arrive today and none of them stopped . Brilliant for illegal imigrants. You want to debate what dates Boris said less red tape . Amazing priorities . Well you put quotes in front of me so I double check them, sorry if that's inconvenient or makes it awkward for you. Claiming a quote is from 2017 when it's actually from 2014 is particularly egregious when it comes to Brexit matters. There are currently minor bureaucratic hurdles on imports that everyone expected. If Brussels wants to write letters about it then Ballyhoo good for them just makes them look even sillier to European citizens. I've discussed software with Cambridge C/S PhD students and there are plenty of practical solutions coming in the next few weeks. Great isn't it
There are no import checks and no sign until next year now. so nonsense
There are however a huge amount of paperwork processes for exporters right now and they cost .
Regarding your software claim .As a matter of interest which software are they updating?
You should obviously know this talking to professors ?
I prefer the Chief software from AEB although it's handling of some duty deferment accounts can be problematic depending on the bank.
Oh dear Chris you need to speak with real professors not those in your head.
You’ve obviously googled that or asked a friend not a professor as they would know the following.
The old system is Chief and its memory has been expanded but is not being developed .
The new system is called CDS. It has been in development for 5 years and no end in sight.
Software developers wil not work on anything relating to chief as it’s will soon be redundant.
They cannot work on software relating to CDS as it doesn’t work yet!
You’re not much of an exporter really are you.
I’m well aware of CDS thanks I know a couple of the top coders involved with it. Your info on Chief development is wrong there’s plenty of ongoing development I won’t bore you with it." your comment the you “prefer” chief said it all Chris. Keep googling. | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. What, like talented remainers you mean? Lol that ship has sailed. OP says "promised less paperwork", well that's not true is it. We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet. The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks. Your first line makes no sense so I’ll ignore that. Red tape cutting was a major selling factor by Boris for leave. Fact The loss of trade so far is just about to equal the fees of our total 40 year membership . Going forward the loss of tax revenue from banking funds moving out now equates to the annual fee so again certainly no better off there. Which professors told you within a few weeks IT I’m curious?? The fact that HMRC don’t have their system working means the private sector can’t create their systems to work with the HMRC . Curious to know how your solution will be working in a few weeks. Government have said next year now so you must be in a secret fast track somewhere. However to make any meaningfull analysis of the loss of trade we would need to adjust it for various seasonal factors such as stocking up before Xmas and the impact of Covid . Did we sell to other countries outside the EU intead ? . Have any companies closed because of this or laid workers off . ? I am assuming that any progressive company will simply accept the change of circumstances , adapt and carry on as normal . When we refer to loss of trade are we referring to the gross value or the operating margin on the trade concerned . The stock market has risen strongly this year , so we can probably conclude that those investing money do not agree with the merchants of doom and gloom . " The loss of GDP is a publicly available figure so I don’t need to justify it. Accepting losses and additional cost then move on?.. are you serious? You do know business exist to make a profit don’t you? I agree January figures are pretty confusing so would never claim the loss of exports is all Brexit as stockpiling did occur. Investors and the pound are a reflection of the U.K. having a better vaccine roll out. Basically a safer bet in the short term. Once the EU catch up on vaccines the balance will be redressed. We have laid off workers and moved their roles to Belgium and Italy. Some of our clients do not want supplying from the U.K. due to their can’t be arsed with customs attitude. Other I know have done similar. Loss of trade refers to total loss of income due to unavailable logistics resulting in the client sourcing elsewhere. Seeing as 45% of our trade is with the EU your suggestion that trade with other areas of the world could have increased we would need to see a rise of 25% . I’m pretty sure that would have made a lot of headlines. It didn’t happen. | |||
"Well Brexit certainly doesn’t mean Brexit just yet. Turns out import checks from the EU may now not happen until 2022. I thought deal done and Brexit meant Brexit? The problem is the border service and customs aren’t ready at all. 30k vacancies still to be filled in the U.K. Private customs agents have no spare capacity to process paperwork as they can’t cope with just exports already. So they must be a lot of paperwork then! Remember the cutting of paperwork burden promised as a benefit of Brexit? So can I ask was Gove telling the truth when he said we are ready and it’s businesses fault? Or was he as lying when he said this is just teething problems and everything was flowing smoothly? Imports are only flowing smoothly because we haven’t had Brexit yet! FFS Just so this is clear British exporters have to pay extra costs to export both for customs certifications health and security checks and subsequent delays. Exporters from the EU to the U.K. do not have any customs to worry about for another year. What kind of level playing field has Boris constructed here? Is it on a ski slope? When he said seamless trade was it just for the EU but not the U.K.? What a complete and utter fucking mess! Lies, lies and yet more lies. Apologies for the repeat. iPad issue. With a few exceptions most exporters have simply adopted to changing circumstances and carried carried on as before with a small amount of extra paperwork . I have yet to hear of many companies either laying off workers or closing down because of this issue . Boris Johnson negotiated the best possible deal in the circumstances so we can hardly blame him for any issues which exporters may have Things would be very different if those who choose to obstruct Brexit at every opportunity had instead accepted the result of the referendum and devoted their resources to obtaining the best possible deal for the UK . Those who choose to obstruct Brexit are resonsible for not allowing the uk sufficient time to prepare for the post Brexit regime . Considering that a deal was only struck on Christmas eve , the transition has gone very well in the circumstances . " How do you prepare for a deal that gives you two weeks notice? Please enlighten me? | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. What, like talented remainers you mean? Lol that ship has sailed. OP says "promised less paperwork", well that's not true is it. We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet. The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks. Please provide an example of vote leaving saying that there will be a rise in paperwork Even if the private sector steps in, who picks up the bill for that? Your statement that in two weeks there will be a private sector solution is noted and will be brought back up. Only 8 posts for the old switcheroo to come in lol OP claimed we were promised less paperwork. I've picked you up on it, you now accept that's not true, not sure why we should therefore be inclined to assist you with answers to falsehoods. we were prmised no additional paper work, zip, nada, none, remember Boris in a meeting saying if theres any new paperwork, bring it to me and I'll throw it in the bin. You have now said that there would be minimal new paperwork, and the private sector would step in. In a matter of weeks. You are making stuff up. Again. No, he said that about UK Northern Ireland. Can't we just stick to factual stuff to debate rather than made up waffle? Here is the original quote "Well Brexit certainly doesn’t mean Brexit just yet. Turns out import checks from the EU may now not happen until 2022. I thought deal done and Brexit meant Brexit? The problem is the border service and customs aren’t ready at all. 30k vacancies still to be filled in the U.K. Private customs agents have no spare capacity to process paperwork as they can’t cope with just exports already. So they must be a lot of paperwork then! Remember the cutting of paperwork burden promised as a benefit of Brexit? So can I ask was Gove telling the truth when he said we are ready and it’s businesses fault? Or was he as lying when he said this is just teething problems and everything was flowing smoothly? Imports are only flowing smoothly because we haven’t had Brexit yet! FFS Just so this is clear British exporters have to pay extra costs to export both for customs certifications health and security checks and subsequent delays. Exporters from the EU to the U.K. do not have any customs to worry about for another year. What kind of level playing field has Boris constructed here? Is it on a ski slope? When he said seamless trade was it just for the EU but not the U.K.? What a complete and utter fucking mess! Lies, lies and yet more lies. Apologies for the repeat. iPad issue." No reference to NI I was referring to the Boris quote you have deliberately misquoted as you know
Heres what you said and how I responded
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We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet.
The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks.
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Please provide an example of vote leaving saying that there will be a rise in paperwork
Even if the private sector steps in, who picks up the bill for that?
Your statement that in two weeks there will be a private sector solution is noted and will be brought back up
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So again, back up your statement with facts
I asked you to provide sources for your claims, a reply of no you have to first is as usual hilarious.
Because I'm such a good sport, and might and right is on my side, here we go, off the salty website, claim 1:
"Trade with the EU will be tariff-free and involve minimal bureaucracy"
So... Some bureaucracy exactly as I said. Nobody claimed a reduction.
Please apologise.
Chris don't forget to apologise to me and others for
1. 10million solar panelled homes
2. Tower farms taking of over all most agriculture
3. 33% budget lie
Stop asking for apologies if you refuse to offer them . I do when proven wrong or shown to be out of order. You either stop posting deflect or say oh you’re just talking soup now or another is all you can hear is noise , both of which are rude .
So when it comes to manners you should get your own house in order first .
What's "33% budget lie" a reference to BTW, can't place it?
You don’t keep a spreadsheet I’m gutted !!
"I still want to know what the "33% budget lie" thing is about, or did you make it up, surely not? | |||
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"Well Brexit certainly doesn’t mean Brexit just yet. Turns out import checks from the EU may now not happen until 2022. I thought deal done and Brexit meant Brexit? The problem is the border service and customs aren’t ready at all. 30k vacancies still to be filled in the U.K. Private customs agents have no spare capacity to process paperwork as they can’t cope with just exports already. So they must be a lot of paperwork then! Remember the cutting of paperwork burden promised as a benefit of Brexit? So can I ask was Gove telling the truth when he said we are ready and it’s businesses fault? Or was he as lying when he said this is just teething problems and everything was flowing smoothly? Imports are only flowing smoothly because we haven’t had Brexit yet! FFS Just so this is clear British exporters have to pay extra costs to export both for customs certifications health and security checks and subsequent delays. Exporters from the EU to the U.K. do not have any customs to worry about for another year. What kind of level playing field has Boris constructed here? Is it on a ski slope? When he said seamless trade was it just for the EU but not the U.K.? What a complete and utter fucking mess! Lies, lies and yet more lies. Apologies for the repeat. iPad issue. With a few exceptions most exporters have simply adopted to changing circumstances and carried carried on as before with a small amount of extra paperwork . I have yet to hear of many companies either laying off workers or closing down because of this issue . Boris Johnson negotiated the best possible deal in the circumstances so we can hardly blame him for any issues which exporters may have Things would be very different if those who choose to obstruct Brexit at every opportunity had instead accepted the result of the referendum and devoted their resources to obtaining the best possible deal for the UK . Those who choose to obstruct Brexit are resonsible for not allowing the uk sufficient time to prepare for the post Brexit regime . Considering that a deal was only struck on Christmas eve , the transition has gone very well in the circumstances . Its amazing it is how easy it is to just rewrite history and invent stuff up that never happened." As for "Those who choose to obstruct Brexit are resonsible for not allowing the uk sufficient time to prepare for the post Brexit regime", why am I not surprised about Brexiteers placing the blame for its failure elsewhere? It was always going to be thus, and now there's also a convenient pandemic to blame. | |||
"Well Brexit certainly doesn’t mean Brexit just yet. Turns out import checks from the EU may now not happen until 2022. I thought deal done and Brexit meant Brexit? The problem is the border service and customs aren’t ready at all. 30k vacancies still to be filled in the U.K. Private customs agents have no spare capacity to process paperwork as they can’t cope with just exports already. So they must be a lot of paperwork then! Remember the cutting of paperwork burden promised as a benefit of Brexit? So can I ask was Gove telling the truth when he said we are ready and it’s businesses fault? Or was he as lying when he said this is just teething problems and everything was flowing smoothly? Imports are only flowing smoothly because we haven’t had Brexit yet! FFS Just so this is clear British exporters have to pay extra costs to export both for customs certifications health and security checks and subsequent delays. Exporters from the EU to the U.K. do not have any customs to worry about for another year. What kind of level playing field has Boris constructed here? Is it on a ski slope? When he said seamless trade was it just for the EU but not the U.K.? What a complete and utter fucking mess! Lies, lies and yet more lies. Apologies for the repeat. iPad issue. With a few exceptions most exporters have simply adopted to changing circumstances and carried carried on as before with a small amount of extra paperwork . I have yet to hear of many companies either laying off workers or closing down because of this issue . Boris Johnson negotiated the best possible deal in the circumstances so we can hardly blame him for any issues which exporters may have Things would be very different if those who choose to obstruct Brexit at every opportunity had instead accepted the result of the referendum and devoted their resources to obtaining the best possible deal for the UK . Those who choose to obstruct Brexit are resonsible for not allowing the uk sufficient time to prepare for the post Brexit regime . Considering that a deal was only struck on Christmas eve , the transition has gone very well in the circumstances . Its amazing it is how easy it is to just rewrite history and invent stuff up that never happened. As for "Those who choose to obstruct Brexit are resonsible for not allowing the uk sufficient time to prepare for the post Brexit regime", why am I not surprised about Brexiteers placing the blame for its failure elsewhere? It was always going to be thus, and now there's also a convenient pandemic to blame." The pandemic was a brexit distraction beyond the Tories wildest wet dreams. And is the absolute optimal scapegoat for brexit. It adds just enough doubt into any economic issue, business closure, job lost. And then as you said there's always the old reliable of blaming the EU and Remainers. | |||
"Well Brexit certainly doesn’t mean Brexit just yet. Turns out import checks from the EU may now not happen until 2022. I thought deal done and Brexit meant Brexit? The problem is the border service and customs aren’t ready at all. 30k vacancies still to be filled in the U.K. Private customs agents have no spare capacity to process paperwork as they can’t cope with just exports already. So they must be a lot of paperwork then! Remember the cutting of paperwork burden promised as a benefit of Brexit? So can I ask was Gove telling the truth when he said we are ready and it’s businesses fault? Or was he as lying when he said this is just teething problems and everything was flowing smoothly? Imports are only flowing smoothly because we haven’t had Brexit yet! FFS Just so this is clear British exporters have to pay extra costs to export both for customs certifications health and security checks and subsequent delays. Exporters from the EU to the U.K. do not have any customs to worry about for another year. What kind of level playing field has Boris constructed here? Is it on a ski slope? When he said seamless trade was it just for the EU but not the U.K.? What a complete and utter fucking mess! Lies, lies and yet more lies. Apologies for the repeat. iPad issue. With a few exceptions most exporters have simply adopted to changing circumstances and carried carried on as before with a small amount of extra paperwork . I have yet to hear of many companies either laying off workers or closing down because of this issue . Boris Johnson negotiated the best possible deal in the circumstances so we can hardly blame him for any issues which exporters may have Things would be very different if those who choose to obstruct Brexit at every opportunity had instead accepted the result of the referendum and devoted their resources to obtaining the best possible deal for the UK . Those who choose to obstruct Brexit are resonsible for not allowing the uk sufficient time to prepare for the post Brexit regime . Considering that a deal was only struck on Christmas eve , the transition has gone very well in the circumstances . Its amazing it is how easy it is to just rewrite history and invent stuff up that never happened. As for "Those who choose to obstruct Brexit are resonsible for not allowing the uk sufficient time to prepare for the post Brexit regime", why am I not surprised about Brexiteers placing the blame for its failure elsewhere? It was always going to be thus, and now there's also a convenient pandemic to blame. The pandemic was a brexit distraction beyond the Tories wildest wet dreams. And is the absolute optimal scapegoat for brexit. It adds just enough doubt into any economic issue, business closure, job lost. And then as you said there's always the old reliable of blaming the EU and Remainers. " Painful to think how much better off we would be if remainers had accepted the result 5 years ago and got behind the country. Who'd have thought millions of shrieking hysterics could cause so much damage. | |||
"Well Brexit certainly doesn’t mean Brexit just yet. Turns out import checks from the EU may now not happen until 2022. I thought deal done and Brexit meant Brexit? The problem is the border service and customs aren’t ready at all. 30k vacancies still to be filled in the U.K. Private customs agents have no spare capacity to process paperwork as they can’t cope with just exports already. So they must be a lot of paperwork then! Remember the cutting of paperwork burden promised as a benefit of Brexit? So can I ask was Gove telling the truth when he said we are ready and it’s businesses fault? Or was he as lying when he said this is just teething problems and everything was flowing smoothly? Imports are only flowing smoothly because we haven’t had Brexit yet! FFS Just so this is clear British exporters have to pay extra costs to export both for customs certifications health and security checks and subsequent delays. Exporters from the EU to the U.K. do not have any customs to worry about for another year. What kind of level playing field has Boris constructed here? Is it on a ski slope? When he said seamless trade was it just for the EU but not the U.K.? What a complete and utter fucking mess! Lies, lies and yet more lies. Apologies for the repeat. iPad issue. With a few exceptions most exporters have simply adopted to changing circumstances and carried carried on as before with a small amount of extra paperwork . I have yet to hear of many companies either laying off workers or closing down because of this issue . Boris Johnson negotiated the best possible deal in the circumstances so we can hardly blame him for any issues which exporters may have Things would be very different if those who choose to obstruct Brexit at every opportunity had instead accepted the result of the referendum and devoted their resources to obtaining the best possible deal for the UK . Those who choose to obstruct Brexit are resonsible for not allowing the uk sufficient time to prepare for the post Brexit regime . Considering that a deal was only struck on Christmas eve , the transition has gone very well in the circumstances . Its amazing it is how easy it is to just rewrite history and invent stuff up that never happened. As for "Those who choose to obstruct Brexit are resonsible for not allowing the uk sufficient time to prepare for the post Brexit regime", why am I not surprised about Brexiteers placing the blame for its failure elsewhere? It was always going to be thus, and now there's also a convenient pandemic to blame. The pandemic was a brexit distraction beyond the Tories wildest wet dreams. And is the absolute optimal scapegoat for brexit. It adds just enough doubt into any economic issue, business closure, job lost. And then as you said there's always the old reliable of blaming the EU and Remainers. Painful to think how much better off we would be if remainers had accepted the result 5 years ago and got behind the country. Who'd have thought millions of shrieking hysterics could cause so much damage. " How much better off we'd be if they'd honestly said it wasn't actually an advisory referendum and they would be doing as little work as possible on the withdrawal. | |||
"Well Brexit certainly doesn’t mean Brexit just yet. Turns out import checks from the EU may now not happen until 2022. I thought deal done and Brexit meant Brexit? The problem is the border service and customs aren’t ready at all. 30k vacancies still to be filled in the U.K. Private customs agents have no spare capacity to process paperwork as they can’t cope with just exports already. So they must be a lot of paperwork then! Remember the cutting of paperwork burden promised as a benefit of Brexit? So can I ask was Gove telling the truth when he said we are ready and it’s businesses fault? Or was he as lying when he said this is just teething problems and everything was flowing smoothly? Imports are only flowing smoothly because we haven’t had Brexit yet! FFS Just so this is clear British exporters have to pay extra costs to export both for customs certifications health and security checks and subsequent delays. Exporters from the EU to the U.K. do not have any customs to worry about for another year. What kind of level playing field has Boris constructed here? Is it on a ski slope? When he said seamless trade was it just for the EU but not the U.K.? What a complete and utter fucking mess! Lies, lies and yet more lies. Apologies for the repeat. iPad issue. With a few exceptions most exporters have simply adopted to changing circumstances and carried carried on as before with a small amount of extra paperwork . I have yet to hear of many companies either laying off workers or closing down because of this issue . Boris Johnson negotiated the best possible deal in the circumstances so we can hardly blame him for any issues which exporters may have Things would be very different if those who choose to obstruct Brexit at every opportunity had instead accepted the result of the referendum and devoted their resources to obtaining the best possible deal for the UK . Those who choose to obstruct Brexit are resonsible for not allowing the uk sufficient time to prepare for the post Brexit regime . Considering that a deal was only struck on Christmas eve , the transition has gone very well in the circumstances . Its amazing it is how easy it is to just rewrite history and invent stuff up that never happened. As for "Those who choose to obstruct Brexit are resonsible for not allowing the uk sufficient time to prepare for the post Brexit regime", why am I not surprised about Brexiteers placing the blame for its failure elsewhere? It was always going to be thus, and now there's also a convenient pandemic to blame. The pandemic was a brexit distraction beyond the Tories wildest wet dreams. And is the absolute optimal scapegoat for brexit. It adds just enough doubt into any economic issue, business closure, job lost. And then as you said there's always the old reliable of blaming the EU and Remainers. Painful to think how much better off we would be if remainers had accepted the result 5 years ago and got behind the country. Who'd have thought millions of shrieking hysterics could cause so much damage. " Why didn’t the likes of Farage & the ERG get behind the country before the referendum? It appears that shrieking, moaning and disruption gets results, get used to it Chris, | |||
"Well Brexit certainly doesn’t mean Brexit just yet. Turns out import checks from the EU may now not happen until 2022. I thought deal done and Brexit meant Brexit? The problem is the border service and customs aren’t ready at all. 30k vacancies still to be filled in the U.K. Private customs agents have no spare capacity to process paperwork as they can’t cope with just exports already. So they must be a lot of paperwork then! Remember the cutting of paperwork burden promised as a benefit of Brexit? So can I ask was Gove telling the truth when he said we are ready and it’s businesses fault? Or was he as lying when he said this is just teething problems and everything was flowing smoothly? Imports are only flowing smoothly because we haven’t had Brexit yet! FFS Just so this is clear British exporters have to pay extra costs to export both for customs certifications health and security checks and subsequent delays. Exporters from the EU to the U.K. do not have any customs to worry about for another year. What kind of level playing field has Boris constructed here? Is it on a ski slope? When he said seamless trade was it just for the EU but not the U.K.? What a complete and utter fucking mess! Lies, lies and yet more lies. Apologies for the repeat. iPad issue. With a few exceptions most exporters have simply adopted to changing circumstances and carried carried on as before with a small amount of extra paperwork . I have yet to hear of many companies either laying off workers or closing down because of this issue . Boris Johnson negotiated the best possible deal in the circumstances so we can hardly blame him for any issues which exporters may have Things would be very different if those who choose to obstruct Brexit at every opportunity had instead accepted the result of the referendum and devoted their resources to obtaining the best possible deal for the UK . Those who choose to obstruct Brexit are resonsible for not allowing the uk sufficient time to prepare for the post Brexit regime . Considering that a deal was only struck on Christmas eve , the transition has gone very well in the circumstances . Its amazing it is how easy it is to just rewrite history and invent stuff up that never happened. As for "Those who choose to obstruct Brexit are resonsible for not allowing the uk sufficient time to prepare for the post Brexit regime", why am I not surprised about Brexiteers placing the blame for its failure elsewhere? It was always going to be thus, and now there's also a convenient pandemic to blame. The pandemic was a brexit distraction beyond the Tories wildest wet dreams. And is the absolute optimal scapegoat for brexit. It adds just enough doubt into any economic issue, business closure, job lost. And then as you said there's always the old reliable of blaming the EU and Remainers. Painful to think how much better off we would be if remainers had accepted the result 5 years ago and got behind the country. Who'd have thought millions of shrieking hysterics could cause so much damage. " It was even more painful and costly to discover the architects of Brexit didn’t really understand what they were talking about as has been proven with the resulting mess. The EU waited patiently for the oven ready deal. Given that the deal was oven ready we should surely have known it months before not the last week before. To be fair Downing Street is old and maybe the oven was on the blink. | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. What, like talented remainers you mean? Lol that ship has sailed. OP says "promised less paperwork", well that's not true is it. We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet. The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks. " What turns you on: 1) Fartage in nickers singing Rule Britannia. 2) Defending an apocalyptic Brexit. 3) being part of an orgy with several hot couples keen to swing with you in Cap dagde. You can only pick one choice. | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. What, like talented remainers you mean? Lol that ship has sailed. OP says "promised less paperwork", well that's not true is it. We voted that a marginal increase in paperwork was worth saving 9 billion a year funding Barnier's whisky cabinet. The private sector will step in with largely automated systems and fill the gap, I reckon within a few weeks. What turns you on: 1) Fartage in nickers singing Rule Britannia. 2) Defending an apocalyptic Brexit. 3) being part of an orgy with several hot couples keen to swing with you in Cap dagde. You can only pick one choice." Can we have Farage in a vulcanised rubber thong like Alan Partridge? | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. " its not worked in america, oxford cambridge = yale harvard.. old money is old money.. networks/mates/connections are made already, doesnt matter if theyre a queen or a crime boss! trying to break into an established area is always going to be tough. There are villages in britain and if your grandad and dad werent born there, even if youve lived there 30 years, your still not a local, still not one of them lol | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. its not worked in america, oxford cambridge = yale harvard.. old money is old money.. networks/mates/connections are made already, doesnt matter if theyre a queen or a crime boss! trying to break into an established area is always going to be tough. There are villages in britain and if your grandad and dad werent born there, even if youve lived there 30 years, your still not a local, still not one of them lol "There is privilege everywhere but it’s the structure of the U.K.. Not all presidents come from Yale or Harvard ( they are picked by those who do). But in the U.K. how can so many PM’s come from Eaton. That’s a pathway cleared for them all. On law of averages that would never happen. It’s not the best school either so that’s not it. It alone being the source of so many leaders shows we don’t have democracy. | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. its not worked in america, oxford cambridge = yale harvard.. old money is old money.. networks/mates/connections are made already, doesnt matter if theyre a queen or a crime boss! trying to break into an established area is always going to be tough. There are villages in britain and if your grandad and dad werent born there, even if youve lived there 30 years, your still not a local, still not one of them lol "id move village rather than been seen as one of them lol | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. its not worked in america, oxford cambridge = yale harvard.. old money is old money.. networks/mates/connections are made already, doesnt matter if theyre a queen or a crime boss! trying to break into an established area is always going to be tough. There are villages in britain and if your grandad and dad werent born there, even if youve lived there 30 years, your still not a local, still not one of them lol
There is privilege everywhere but it’s the structure of the U.K..
Not all presidents come from Yale or Harvard ( they are picked by those who do). But in the U.K. how can so many PM’s come from Eaton. That’s a pathway cleared for them all. On law of averages that would never happen. It’s not the best school either so that’s not it. It alone being the source of so many leaders shows we don’t have democracy.
"Show me the child I'll show you the man, then every 7 years they did.... think it plays a huge role, ambition of thought! Not breaking free.. | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. its not worked in america, oxford cambridge = yale harvard.. old money is old money.. networks/mates/connections are made already, doesnt matter if theyre a queen or a crime boss! trying to break into an established area is always going to be tough. There are villages in britain and if your grandad and dad werent born there, even if youve lived there 30 years, your still not a local, still not one of them lol id move village rather than been seen as one of them lol"Lots of areas are like it, 5th generation of..... lol | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. its not worked in america, oxford cambridge = yale harvard.. old money is old money.. networks/mates/connections are made already, doesnt matter if theyre a queen or a crime boss! trying to break into an established area is always going to be tough. There are villages in britain and if your grandad and dad werent born there, even if youve lived there 30 years, your still not a local, still not one of them lol id move village rather than been seen as one of them lol"Lots of pit villages are like this - you can move there and be in the place for long time - still considered an outsider | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. its not worked in america, oxford cambridge = yale harvard.. old money is old money.. networks/mates/connections are made already, doesnt matter if theyre a queen or a crime boss! trying to break into an established area is always going to be tough. There are villages in britain and if your grandad and dad werent born there, even if youve lived there 30 years, your still not a local, still not one of them lol id move village rather than been seen as one of them lol
Lots of pit villages are like this - you can move there and be in the place for long time - still considered an outsider "well fuck me ya learn sumit new everyday pit villages wtf | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. its not worked in america, oxford cambridge = yale harvard.. old money is old money.. networks/mates/connections are made already, doesnt matter if theyre a queen or a crime boss! trying to break into an established area is always going to be tough. There are villages in britain and if your grandad and dad werent born there, even if youve lived there 30 years, your still not a local, still not one of them lol
There is privilege everywhere but it’s the structure of the U.K..
Not all presidents come from Yale or Harvard ( they are picked by those who do). But in the U.K. how can so many PM’s come from Eaton. That’s a pathway cleared for them all. On law of averages that would never happen. It’s not the best school either so that’s not it. It alone being the source of so many leaders shows we don’t have democracy.
Show me the child I'll show you the man, then every 7 years they did.... think it plays a huge role, ambition of thought! Not breaking free.. "The men were not worthy. They were shoe horned into position. The entitlement was the foremost emotion. Which by default means they view others as less. Boris being sacked so often having adopted the scarecrow look to make himself more interesting shows the merit of this guy. I don’t want it to be about Boris but he’s a good example of pathway ploughed for the entitled. | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. its not worked in america, oxford cambridge = yale harvard.. old money is old money.. networks/mates/connections are made already, doesnt matter if theyre a queen or a crime boss! trying to break into an established area is always going to be tough. There are villages in britain and if your grandad and dad werent born there, even if youve lived there 30 years, your still not a local, still not one of them lol id move village rather than been seen as one of them lol
Lots of pit villages are like this - you can move there and be in the place for long time - still considered an outsider well fuck me ya learn sumit new everyday pit villages wtf "Farming, pits... law... every bloody thing lol including owning big houses for 400 years lol | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. its not worked in america, oxford cambridge = yale harvard.. old money is old money.. networks/mates/connections are made already, doesnt matter if theyre a queen or a crime boss! trying to break into an established area is always going to be tough. There are villages in britain and if your grandad and dad werent born there, even if youve lived there 30 years, your still not a local, still not one of them lol
There is privilege everywhere but it’s the structure of the U.K..
Not all presidents come from Yale or Harvard ( they are picked by those who do). But in the U.K. how can so many PM’s come from Eaton. That’s a pathway cleared for them all. On law of averages that would never happen. It’s not the best school either so that’s not it. It alone being the source of so many leaders shows we don’t have democracy.
Show me the child I'll show you the man, then every 7 years they did.... think it plays a huge role, ambition of thought! Not breaking free..
The men were not worthy. They were shoe horned into position. The entitlement was the foremost emotion. Which by default means they view others as less.
Boris being sacked so often having adopted the scarecrow look to make himself more interesting shows the merit of this guy. I don’t want it to be about Boris but he’s a good example of pathway ploughed for the entitled. "there’s a few on here who view others as less tho lol | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. its not worked in america, oxford cambridge = yale harvard.. old money is old money.. networks/mates/connections are made already, doesnt matter if theyre a queen or a crime boss! trying to break into an established area is always going to be tough. There are villages in britain and if your grandad and dad werent born there, even if youve lived there 30 years, your still not a local, still not one of them lol
There is privilege everywhere but it’s the structure of the U.K..
Not all presidents come from Yale or Harvard ( they are picked by those who do). But in the U.K. how can so many PM’s come from Eaton. That’s a pathway cleared for them all. On law of averages that would never happen. It’s not the best school either so that’s not it. It alone being the source of so many leaders shows we don’t have democracy.
Show me the child I'll show you the man, then every 7 years they did.... think it plays a huge role, ambition of thought! Not breaking free..
The men were not worthy. They were shoe horned into position. The entitlement was the foremost emotion. Which by default means they view others as less.
Boris being sacked so often having adopted the scarecrow look to make himself more interesting shows the merit of this guy. I don’t want it to be about Boris but he’s a good example of pathway ploughed for the entitled. "Army officers cut from same cloth, born to lead lol but to some extent they are! I don't mean I know my place sir, doff cap, I mean they have been groomed early, like a Chinese pianist lol while Doris was kicking a football Boris was learning famous battle strategy! I'm sure you get my point | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. its not worked in america, oxford cambridge = yale harvard.. old money is old money.. networks/mates/connections are made already, doesnt matter if theyre a queen or a crime boss! trying to break into an established area is always going to be tough. There are villages in britain and if your grandad and dad werent born there, even if youve lived there 30 years, your still not a local, still not one of them lol
There is privilege everywhere but it’s the structure of the U.K..
Not all presidents come from Yale or Harvard ( they are picked by those who do). But in the U.K. how can so many PM’s come from Eaton. That’s a pathway cleared for them all. On law of averages that would never happen. It’s not the best school either so that’s not it. It alone being the source of so many leaders shows we don’t have democracy.
Show me the child I'll show you the man, then every 7 years they did.... think it plays a huge role, ambition of thought! Not breaking free..
The men were not worthy. They were shoe horned into position. The entitlement was the foremost emotion. Which by default means they view others as less.
Boris being sacked so often having adopted the scarecrow look to make himself more interesting shows the merit of this guy. I don’t want it to be about Boris but he’s a good example of pathway ploughed for the entitled.
Army officers cut from same cloth, born to lead lol but to some extent they are! I don't mean I know my place sir, doff cap, I mean they have been groomed early, like a Chinese pianist lol while Doris was kicking a football Boris was learning famous battle strategy! I'm sure you get my point " | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. its not worked in america, oxford cambridge = yale harvard.. old money is old money.. networks/mates/connections are made already, doesnt matter if theyre a queen or a crime boss! trying to break into an established area is always going to be tough. There are villages in britain and if your grandad and dad werent born there, even if youve lived there 30 years, your still not a local, still not one of them lol
There is privilege everywhere but it’s the structure of the U.K..
Not all presidents come from Yale or Harvard ( they are picked by those who do). But in the U.K. how can so many PM’s come from Eaton. That’s a pathway cleared for them all. On law of averages that would never happen. It’s not the best school either so that’s not it. It alone being the source of so many leaders shows we don’t have democracy.
Show me the child I'll show you the man, then every 7 years they did.... think it plays a huge role, ambition of thought! Not breaking free..
The men were not worthy. They were shoe horned into position. The entitlement was the foremost emotion. Which by default means they view others as less.
Boris being sacked so often having adopted the scarecrow look to make himself more interesting shows the merit of this guy. I don’t want it to be about Boris but he’s a good example of pathway ploughed for the entitled.
Army officers cut from same cloth, born to lead lol but to some extent they are! I don't mean I know my place sir, doff cap, I mean they have been groomed early, like a Chinese pianist lol while Doris was kicking a football Boris was learning famous battle strategy! I'm sure you get my point "The same army officers that told the poor bastards at the Somme to walk across to the Germans. | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. its not worked in america, oxford cambridge = yale harvard.. old money is old money.. networks/mates/connections are made already, doesnt matter if theyre a queen or a crime boss! trying to break into an established area is always going to be tough. There are villages in britain and if your grandad and dad werent born there, even if youve lived there 30 years, your still not a local, still not one of them lol
There is privilege everywhere but it’s the structure of the U.K..
Not all presidents come from Yale or Harvard ( they are picked by those who do). But in the U.K. how can so many PM’s come from Eaton. That’s a pathway cleared for them all. On law of averages that would never happen. It’s not the best school either so that’s not it. It alone being the source of so many leaders shows we don’t have democracy.
Show me the child I'll show you the man, then every 7 years they did.... think it plays a huge role, ambition of thought! Not breaking free..
The men were not worthy. They were shoe horned into position. The entitlement was the foremost emotion. Which by default means they view others as less.
Boris being sacked so often having adopted the scarecrow look to make himself more interesting shows the merit of this guy. I don’t want it to be about Boris but he’s a good example of pathway ploughed for the entitled.
Army officers cut from same cloth, born to lead lol but to some extent they are! I don't mean I know my place sir, doff cap, I mean they have been groomed early, like a Chinese pianist lol while Doris was kicking a football Boris was learning famous battle strategy! I'm sure you get my point
The same army officers that told the poor bastards at the Somme to walk across to the Germans. "Yeah, I'm not defending it, I'm just saying why I think it is, | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. its not worked in america, oxford cambridge = yale harvard.. old money is old money.. networks/mates/connections are made already, doesnt matter if theyre a queen or a crime boss! trying to break into an established area is always going to be tough. There are villages in britain and if your grandad and dad werent born there, even if youve lived there 30 years, your still not a local, still not one of them lol
There is privilege everywhere but it’s the structure of the U.K..
Not all presidents come from Yale or Harvard ( they are picked by those who do). But in the U.K. how can so many PM’s come from Eaton. That’s a pathway cleared for them all. On law of averages that would never happen. It’s not the best school either so that’s not it. It alone being the source of so many leaders shows we don’t have democracy.
Show me the child I'll show you the man, then every 7 years they did.... think it plays a huge role, ambition of thought! Not breaking free..
The men were not worthy. They were shoe horned into position. The entitlement was the foremost emotion. Which by default means they view others as less.
Boris being sacked so often having adopted the scarecrow look to make himself more interesting shows the merit of this guy. I don’t want it to be about Boris but he’s a good example of pathway ploughed for the entitled.
Army officers cut from same cloth, born to lead lol but to some extent they are! I don't mean I know my place sir, doff cap, I mean they have been groomed early, like a Chinese pianist lol while Doris was kicking a football Boris was learning famous battle strategy! I'm sure you get my point
The same army officers that told the poor bastards at the Somme to walk across to the Germans.
Yeah, I'm not defending it, I'm just saying why I think it is, "Sorry I didn’t mean you were . It just galls me that because if birth we still have a system that gives privilege to some who certainly don’t have the ability. 90% of the population know their their place it seems as we never question the status quo. I’m generalising so don’t anyone take it personal. Our leaders are not out for us they are out for themselves . Cronyism is rife across parliament. If it isn’t why do we have so many in the lords? Why do we need 650MPs far more than USA and India who have vastly larger populations. | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. its not worked in america, oxford cambridge = yale harvard.. old money is old money.. networks/mates/connections are made already, doesnt matter if theyre a queen or a crime boss! trying to break into an established area is always going to be tough. There are villages in britain and if your grandad and dad werent born there, even if youve lived there 30 years, your still not a local, still not one of them lol
There is privilege everywhere but it’s the structure of the U.K..
Not all presidents come from Yale or Harvard ( they are picked by those who do). But in the U.K. how can so many PM’s come from Eaton. That’s a pathway cleared for them all. On law of averages that would never happen. It’s not the best school either so that’s not it. It alone being the source of so many leaders shows we don’t have democracy.
Show me the child I'll show you the man, then every 7 years they did.... think it plays a huge role, ambition of thought! Not breaking free..
The men were not worthy. They were shoe horned into position. The entitlement was the foremost emotion. Which by default means they view others as less.
Boris being sacked so often having adopted the scarecrow look to make himself more interesting shows the merit of this guy. I don’t want it to be about Boris but he’s a good example of pathway ploughed for the entitled.
Army officers cut from same cloth, born to lead lol but to some extent they are! I don't mean I know my place sir, doff cap, I mean they have been groomed early, like a Chinese pianist lol while Doris was kicking a football Boris was learning famous battle strategy! I'm sure you get my point
The same army officers that told the poor bastards at the Somme to walk across to the Germans.
Yeah, I'm not defending it, I'm just saying why I think it is,
Sorry I didn’t mean you were .
It just galls me that because if birth we still have a system that gives privilege to some who certainly don’t have the ability.
90% of the population know their their place it seems as we never question the status quo.
I’m generalising so don’t anyone take it personal.
Our leaders are not out for us they are out for themselves . Cronyism is rife across parliament.
If it isn’t why do we have so many in the lords?
Why do we need 650MPs far more than USA and India who have vastly larger populations. "trouble is it is very hard to be in charge of someone with more money than you! hence rich fuckers get a commission as of right. They own cornwall, of course they run it, you might be shit as a daddy but theyre your kids so theyve got you! fair? its how it works lol I also can think of examples where supposedly talented individuals are clowns! Gordon brown comes to mind lol | |||
" Army officers cut from same cloth, born to lead lol but to some extent they are! I don't mean I know my place sir, doff cap, I mean they have been groomed early, like a Chinese pianist lol while Doris was kicking a football Boris was learning famous battle strategy! I'm sure you get my point
The same army officers that told the poor bastards at the Somme to walk across to the Germans. "I went to Sandhurst and I didn’t go to Eton. The debacles of WW1 and the legacy of Lions led by Donkeys was taught there. That situation would never happen again. I was there in the early 1980’s and at that time at least 80% of the Cadets were not from Eton or other private schools. That said, around 20% were and some had no concept of ordinary life. Many were maintaining a long aristocratic tradition of serving in a Guards or Cavalry regiment prior to a life of wealthy hobnobbing. | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. its not worked in america, oxford cambridge = yale harvard.. old money is old money.. networks/mates/connections are made already, doesnt matter if theyre a queen or a crime boss! trying to break into an established area is always going to be tough. There are villages in britain and if your grandad and dad werent born there, even if youve lived there 30 years, your still not a local, still not one of them lol
There is privilege everywhere but it’s the structure of the U.K..
Not all presidents come from Yale or Harvard ( they are picked by those who do). But in the U.K. how can so many PM’s come from Eaton. That’s a pathway cleared for them all. On law of averages that would never happen. It’s not the best school either so that’s not it. It alone being the source of so many leaders shows we don’t have democracy.
Show me the child I'll show you the man, then every 7 years they did.... think it plays a huge role, ambition of thought! Not breaking free..
The men were not worthy. They were shoe horned into position. The entitlement was the foremost emotion. Which by default means they view others as less.
Boris being sacked so often having adopted the scarecrow look to make himself more interesting shows the merit of this guy. I don’t want it to be about Boris but he’s a good example of pathway ploughed for the entitled.
Army officers cut from same cloth, born to lead lol but to some extent they are! I don't mean I know my place sir, doff cap, I mean they have been groomed early, like a Chinese pianist lol while Doris was kicking a football Boris was learning famous battle strategy! I'm sure you get my point
The same army officers that told the poor bastards at the Somme to walk across to the Germans.
Yeah, I'm not defending it, I'm just saying why I think it is,
Sorry I didn’t mean you were .
It just galls me that because if birth we still have a system that gives privilege to some who certainly don’t have the ability.
90% of the population know their their place it seems as we never question the status quo.
I’m generalising so don’t anyone take it personal.
Our leaders are not out for us they are out for themselves . Cronyism is rife across parliament.
If it isn’t why do we have so many in the lords?
Why do we need 650MPs far more than USA and India who have vastly larger populations.
trouble is it is very hard to be in charge of someone with more money than you! hence rich fuckers get a commission as of right. They own cornwall, of course they run it, you might be shit as a daddy but theyre your kids so theyve got you! fair? its how it works lol
I also can think of examples where supposedly talented individuals are clowns! Gordon brown comes to mind lol
"History is a cunt. Gordon Brown was Chancellor the very last time that U.K. PLC was operating at a profit. Since then, the U.K. has operated on a significant deficit year on year. | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. its not worked in america, oxford cambridge = yale harvard.. old money is old money.. networks/mates/connections are made already, doesnt matter if theyre a queen or a crime boss! trying to break into an established area is always going to be tough. There are villages in britain and if your grandad and dad werent born there, even if youve lived there 30 years, your still not a local, still not one of them lol
There is privilege everywhere but it’s the structure of the U.K..
Not all presidents come from Yale or Harvard ( they are picked by those who do). But in the U.K. how can so many PM’s come from Eaton. That’s a pathway cleared for them all. On law of averages that would never happen. It’s not the best school either so that’s not it. It alone being the source of so many leaders shows we don’t have democracy.
Show me the child I'll show you the man, then every 7 years they did.... think it plays a huge role, ambition of thought! Not breaking free..
The men were not worthy. They were shoe horned into position. The entitlement was the foremost emotion. Which by default means they view others as less.
Boris being sacked so often having adopted the scarecrow look to make himself more interesting shows the merit of this guy. I don’t want it to be about Boris but he’s a good example of pathway ploughed for the entitled.
Army officers cut from same cloth, born to lead lol but to some extent they are! I don't mean I know my place sir, doff cap, I mean they have been groomed early, like a Chinese pianist lol while Doris was kicking a football Boris was learning famous battle strategy! I'm sure you get my point
The same army officers that told the poor bastards at the Somme to walk across to the Germans.
Yeah, I'm not defending it, I'm just saying why I think it is,
Sorry I didn’t mean you were .
It just galls me that because if birth we still have a system that gives privilege to some who certainly don’t have the ability.
90% of the population know their their place it seems as we never question the status quo.
I’m generalising so don’t anyone take it personal.
Our leaders are not out for us they are out for themselves . Cronyism is rife across parliament.
If it isn’t why do we have so many in the lords?
Why do we need 650MPs far more than USA and India who have vastly larger populations.
trouble is it is very hard to be in charge of someone with more money than you! hence rich fuckers get a commission as of right. They own cornwall, of course they run it, you might be shit as a daddy but theyre your kids so theyve got you! fair? its how it works lol
I also can think of examples where supposedly talented individuals are clowns! Gordon brown comes to mind lol
History is a cunt.
Gordon Brown was Chancellor the very last time that U.K. PLC was operating at a profit. Since then, the U.K. has operated on a significant deficit year on year."Great Britain has run a budget deficit every single year from 2001 to present. Brown was chancellor for ten years from 1997 to 2007. So I'd say he started the rot. | |||
" Gordon Brown was Chancellor the very last time that U.K. PLC was operating at a profit. Since then, the U.K. has operated on a significant deficit year on year. Great Britain has run a budget deficit every single year from 2001 to present. Brown was chancellor for ten years from 1997 to 2007. So I'd say he started the rot. " " Since 1970/71, the government has had a surplus (spent less than it received in revenues) in only six years. " Hardly something to pin on Gordon now is it. | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. its not worked in america, oxford cambridge = yale harvard.. old money is old money.. networks/mates/connections are made already, doesnt matter if theyre a queen or a crime boss! trying to break into an established area is always going to be tough. There are villages in britain and if your grandad and dad werent born there, even if youve lived there 30 years, your still not a local, still not one of them lol
There is privilege everywhere but it’s the structure of the U.K..
Not all presidents come from Yale or Harvard ( they are picked by those who do). But in the U.K. how can so many PM’s come from Eaton. That’s a pathway cleared for them all. On law of averages that would never happen. It’s not the best school either so that’s not it. It alone being the source of so many leaders shows we don’t have democracy.
Show me the child I'll show you the man, then every 7 years they did.... think it plays a huge role, ambition of thought! Not breaking free..
The men were not worthy. They were shoe horned into position. The entitlement was the foremost emotion. Which by default means they view others as less.
Boris being sacked so often having adopted the scarecrow look to make himself more interesting shows the merit of this guy. I don’t want it to be about Boris but he’s a good example of pathway ploughed for the entitled.
Army officers cut from same cloth, born to lead lol but to some extent they are! I don't mean I know my place sir, doff cap, I mean they have been groomed early, like a Chinese pianist lol while Doris was kicking a football Boris was learning famous battle strategy! I'm sure you get my point
The same army officers that told the poor bastards at the Somme to walk across to the Germans.
Yeah, I'm not defending it, I'm just saying why I think it is,
Sorry I didn’t mean you were .
It just galls me that because if birth we still have a system that gives privilege to some who certainly don’t have the ability.
90% of the population know their their place it seems as we never question the status quo.
I’m generalising so don’t anyone take it personal.
Our leaders are not out for us they are out for themselves . Cronyism is rife across parliament.
If it isn’t why do we have so many in the lords?
Why do we need 650MPs far more than USA and India who have vastly larger populations. "We are a country of serfs. | |||
" Gordon Brown was Chancellor the very last time that U.K. PLC was operating at a profit. Since then, the U.K. has operated on a significant deficit year on year. Great Britain has run a budget deficit every single year from 2001 to present. Brown was chancellor for ten years from 1997 to 2007. So I'd say he started the rot. Since 1970/71, the government has had a surplus (spent less than it received in revenues) in only six years. Hardly something to pin on Gordon now is it. " As you know, I was responding to the claim that Gordon was better when in reality he was as feckless as everyone else | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. its not worked in america, oxford cambridge = yale harvard.. old money is old money.. networks/mates/connections are made already, doesnt matter if theyre a queen or a crime boss! trying to break into an established area is always going to be tough. There are villages in britain and if your grandad and dad werent born there, even if youve lived there 30 years, your still not a local, still not one of them lol
There is privilege everywhere but it’s the structure of the U.K..
Not all presidents come from Yale or Harvard ( they are picked by those who do). But in the U.K. how can so many PM’s come from Eaton. That’s a pathway cleared for them all. On law of averages that would never happen. It’s not the best school either so that’s not it. It alone being the source of so many leaders shows we don’t have democracy.
Show me the child I'll show you the man, then every 7 years they did.... think it plays a huge role, ambition of thought! Not breaking free..
The men were not worthy. They were shoe horned into position. The entitlement was the foremost emotion. Which by default means they view others as less.
Boris being sacked so often having adopted the scarecrow look to make himself more interesting shows the merit of this guy. I don’t want it to be about Boris but he’s a good example of pathway ploughed for the entitled.
Army officers cut from same cloth, born to lead lol but to some extent they are! I don't mean I know my place sir, doff cap, I mean they have been groomed early, like a Chinese pianist lol while Doris was kicking a football Boris was learning famous battle strategy! I'm sure you get my point
The same army officers that told the poor bastards at the Somme to walk across to the Germans.
Yeah, I'm not defending it, I'm just saying why I think it is,
Sorry I didn’t mean you were .
It just galls me that because if birth we still have a system that gives privilege to some who certainly don’t have the ability.
90% of the population know their their place it seems as we never question the status quo.
I’m generalising so don’t anyone take it personal.
Our leaders are not out for us they are out for themselves . Cronyism is rife across parliament.
If it isn’t why do we have so many in the lords?
Why do we need 650MPs far more than USA and India who have vastly larger populations.
trouble is it is very hard to be in charge of someone with more money than you! hence rich fuckers get a commission as of right. They own cornwall, of course they run it, you might be shit as a daddy but theyre your kids so theyve got you! fair? its how it works lol
I also can think of examples where supposedly talented individuals are clowns! Gordon brown comes to mind lol
History is a cunt.
Gordon Brown was Chancellor the very last time that U.K. PLC was operating at a profit. Since then, the U.K. has operated on a significant deficit year on year."Gordon Brown sold off shit loads of gold at a historic low ! Genius! Yes the army officers is obviously a generalisation, its hard doing sound bite posts, but if you've served you'll know you would have never obtain certain ranks, the queen holds the top one lol | |||
"Third time lucky, but of course you are exactly right. As a wave approaches land, it becomes steeper and more dangerous. Pretty soon Brexit reality will set in - but of course others will be to blame. And don’t forget that pain, discomfort and hardship is character building. It is essential that U.K. citizens have less social mobility, less opportunities and more restrictions than our European counterparts - because we are British. We love it that the rich get richer whilst removing the opportunities for ordinary people to improve to their lives. Being ruled by true British Elites is what we absolutely want. I don’t think people realise how little difference our votes make . It’s been the same for a hundred years. The old school network has to be stopped. I’m a fan of the Queen but after she’s gone maybe doing away with the royal family will dent the class system a bit and break down some barriers for talented people to be succeed whatever their background. its not worked in america, oxford cambridge = yale harvard.. old money is old money.. networks/mates/connections are made already, doesnt matter if theyre a queen or a crime boss! trying to break into an established area is always going to be tough. There are villages in britain and if your grandad and dad werent born there, even if youve lived there 30 years, your still not a local, still not one of them lol
There is privilege everywhere but it’s the structure of the U.K..
Not all presidents come from Yale or Harvard ( they are picked by those who do). But in the U.K. how can so many PM’s come from Eaton. That’s a pathway cleared for them all. On law of averages that would never happen. It’s not the best school either so that’s not it. It alone being the source of so many leaders shows we don’t have democracy.
Show me the child I'll show you the man, then every 7 years they did.... think it plays a huge role, ambition of thought! Not breaking free..
The men were not worthy. They were shoe horned into position. The entitlement was the foremost emotion. Which by default means they view others as less.
Boris being sacked so often having adopted the scarecrow look to make himself more interesting shows the merit of this guy. I don’t want it to be about Boris but he’s a good example of pathway ploughed for the entitled.
Army officers cut from same cloth, born to lead lol but to some extent they are! I don't mean I know my place sir, doff cap, I mean they have been groomed early, like a Chinese pianist lol while Doris was kicking a football Boris was learning famous battle strategy! I'm sure you get my point
The same army officers that told the poor bastards at the Somme to walk across to the Germans.
Yeah, I'm not defending it, I'm just saying why I think it is,
Sorry I didn’t mean you were .
It just galls me that because if birth we still have a system that gives privilege to some who certainly don’t have the ability.
90% of the population know their their place it seems as we never question the status quo.
I’m generalising so don’t anyone take it personal.
Our leaders are not out for us they are out for themselves . Cronyism is rife across parliament.
If it isn’t why do we have so many in the lords?
Why do we need 650MPs far more than USA and India who have vastly larger populations.
trouble is it is very hard to be in charge of someone with more money than you! hence rich fuckers get a commission as of right. They own cornwall, of course they run it, you might be shit as a daddy but theyre your kids so theyve got you! fair? its how it works lol
I also can think of examples where supposedly talented individuals are clowns! Gordon brown comes to mind lol
History is a cunt.
Gordon Brown was Chancellor the very last time that U.K. PLC was operating at a profit. Since then, the U.K. has operated on a significant deficit year on year."Gordon Brown had the magic PFI credit card though! | |||
