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"Good grief is there no depths to which Brussels won’t stoop? Now they are wading into our marbles. Ridiculous, up yours Delors! “Politicians from 12 EU countries have called on Boris Johnson to return the Elgin Marbles to Greece as a sign of its intent to build a positive relationship with the EU27 after Brexit. In a letter to the Prime Minister, seen by i, 30 MEPs “respectfully” request the UK amend the law to allow the British Museum, where they presently reside, to return the marbles. The artefacts, taken from Athens’s Acropolis by Lord Elgin early in the 19th century when Greece was under Ottoman rule, have been the subject of a a long-running dispute over their residence in London since they were first put on permanent display in 1817.“"  | |||
"Good grief is there no depths to which Brussels won’t stoop? Now they are wading into our marbles. Ridiculous, up yours Delors! “Politicians from 12 EU countries have called on Boris Johnson to return the Elgin Marbles to Greece as a sign of its intent to build a positive relationship with the EU27 after Brexit. In a letter to the Prime Minister, seen by i, 30 MEPs “respectfully” request the UK amend the law to allow the British Museum, where they presently reside, to return the marbles. The artefacts, taken from Athens’s Acropolis by Lord Elgin early in the 19th century when Greece was under Ottoman rule, have been the subject of a a long-running dispute over their residence in London since they were first put on permanent display in 1817.“" It looks like you lost your marbles long time ago. Will you also demand for them to be returned? | |||
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"We should refer to them as the Parthenon marbles so as not to glorify the vandal who stole them" 
Agree that is their proper name.
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"Good grief is there no depths to which Brussels won’t stoop? Now they are wading into our marbles. Ridiculous, up yours Delors! “Politicians from 12 EU countries have called on Boris Johnson to return the Elgin Marbles to Greece as a sign of its intent to build a positive relationship with the EU27 after Brexit. In a letter to the Prime Minister, seen by i, 30 MEPs “respectfully” request the UK amend the law to allow the British Museum, where they presently reside, to return the marbles. The artefacts, taken from Athens’s Acropolis by Lord Elgin early in the 19th century when Greece was under Ottoman rule, have been the subject of a a long-running dispute over their residence in London since they were first put on permanent display in 1817.“" Man in permanent state of outrage now outraged at being requested to return stolen goods. | |||
"There is no reason why they couldn’t be 3D laser scanned & printed, the originals could then be sent back, but then where will this stop, will everything be sent back to it place of origin, or just the things those countries want to claim back. It’s just we have shit loads of nuclear waste belonging to other countries & I wouldn’t mind sending that back too x" If you steal stuff, you give it back. It’s just civilised. | |||
"There is no reason why they couldn’t be 3D laser scanned & printed, the originals could then be sent back, but then where will this stop, will everything be sent back to it place of origin, or just the things those countries want to claim back. It’s just we have shit loads of nuclear waste belonging to other countries & I wouldn’t mind sending that back too x" You do realise (probably not) that we agreed to take in and reprocess that nuclear fuel as part of a commercial contract? We are the legal owner. As opposed to stealing it. | |||
"There is no reason why they couldn’t be 3D laser scanned & printed, the originals could then be sent back, but then where will this stop, will everything be sent back to it place of origin, or just the things those countries want to claim back. It’s just we have shit loads of nuclear waste belonging to other countries & I wouldn’t mind sending that back too x If you steal stuff, you give it back. It’s just civilised." I’m not disputing that x but there’s been plenty of stuff stolen by different people over the millennia’s, where do we stop. With this it’s easy, like I say 3D scanned & printed, the originals sent back, there is no logical argument for them not to go back on permanent public display in Greece as they where before 1817. But that’s not so easy with other things x | |||
"There is no reason why they couldn’t be 3D laser scanned & printed, the originals could then be sent back, but then where will this stop, will everything be sent back to it place of origin, or just the things those countries want to claim back. It’s just we have shit loads of nuclear waste belonging to other countries & I wouldn’t mind sending that back too x You do realise (probably not) that we agreed to take in and reprocess that nuclear fuel as part of a commercial contract? We are the legal owner. As opposed to stealing it." You do realise those countries are delaying taking their waste back by not building their own storage facilities as part of said contract (no not at all obviously) x | |||
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"There is no reason why they couldn’t be 3D laser scanned & printed, the originals could then be sent back, but then where will this stop, will everything be sent back to it place of origin, or just the things those countries want to claim back. It’s just we have shit loads of nuclear waste belonging to other countries & I wouldn’t mind sending that back too x You do realise (probably not) that we agreed to take in and reprocess that nuclear fuel as part of a commercial contract? We are the legal owner. As opposed to stealing it." This may be a little bit over your head as it’s not from the Guardian x https://www.energylivenews.com/2020/09/28/uk-to-return-high-level-nuclear-waste-to-germany/ X | |||
"There is no reason why they couldn’t be 3D laser scanned & printed, the originals could then be sent back, but then where will this stop, will everything be sent back to it place of origin, or just the things those countries want to claim back. It’s just we have shit loads of nuclear waste belonging to other countries & I wouldn’t mind sending that back too x You do realise (probably not) that we agreed to take in and reprocess that nuclear fuel as part of a commercial contract? We are the legal owner. As opposed to stealing it. This may be a little bit over your head as it’s not from the Guardian x https://www.energylivenews.com/2020/09/28/uk-to-return-high-level-nuclear-waste-to-germany/ X" This will definitely be over your head; If the commercial contract says it is to be returned, it will be returned. Can you point me in the direction of the commercial contract for the marbles stolen from Greece? | |||
"There is no reason why they couldn’t be 3D laser scanned & printed, the originals could then be sent back, but then where will this stop, will everything be sent back to it place of origin, or just the things those countries want to claim back. It’s just we have shit loads of nuclear waste belonging to other countries & I wouldn’t mind sending that back too x If you steal stuff, you give it back. It’s just civilised. I’m not disputing that x but there’s been plenty of stuff stolen by different people over the millennia’s, where do we stop. With this it’s easy, like I say 3D scanned & printed, the originals sent back, there is no logical argument for them not to go back on permanent public display in Greece as they where before 1817. But that’s not so easy with other things x" "Where do we stop" is the wrong question. Every time something like this comes up it needs to be dealt with as an individual request. In this instance, the stolen relief needs to be returned. | |||
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"There is no reason why they couldn’t be 3D laser scanned & printed, the originals could then be sent back, but then where will this stop, will everything be sent back to it place of origin, or just the things those countries want to claim back. It’s just we have shit loads of nuclear waste belonging to other countries & I wouldn’t mind sending that back too x You do realise (probably not) that we agreed to take in and reprocess that nuclear fuel as part of a commercial contract? We are the legal owner. As opposed to stealing it. This may be a little bit over your head as it’s not from the Guardian x https://www.energylivenews.com/2020/09/28/uk-to-return-high-level-nuclear-waste-to-germany/ X This will definitely be over your head; If the commercial contract says it is to be returned, it will be returned. Can you point me in the direction of the commercial contract for the marbles stolen from Greece?" I have already stated that the marbles should be given back, I have stated that they could be 3D scanned & printed & the originals sent back, I have also stated that they could be put back on permanent public display in Greece as they was prior to 1817. You stated that the nuclear FUEL (not waste), belongs to us as part of a contract you obviously knew nothing about.As it’s about reprocessing waste, in our facilities x Now you’ve read a little you now try to make out you knew what you was talking about all the time lol. Try reading what people say, not just wanting to attack them because you just don’t like them x TBH I don’t really give a shit about the marble carvings from Greece, I’ve never seen them accept on TV/ photo & don’t think I ever will no matter where they are. X | |||
"There is no reason why they couldn’t be 3D laser scanned & printed, the originals could then be sent back, but then where will this stop, will everything be sent back to it place of origin, or just the things those countries want to claim back. It’s just we have shit loads of nuclear waste belonging to other countries & I wouldn’t mind sending that back too x You do realise (probably not) that we agreed to take in and reprocess that nuclear fuel as part of a commercial contract? We are the legal owner. As opposed to stealing it. This may be a little bit over your head as it’s not from the Guardian x https://www.energylivenews.com/2020/09/28/uk-to-return-high-level-nuclear-waste-to-germany/ X This will definitely be over your head; If the commercial contract says it is to be returned, it will be returned. Can you point me in the direction of the commercial contract for the marbles stolen from Greece? I have already stated that the marbles should be given back, I have stated that they could be 3D scanned & printed & the originals sent back, I have also stated that they could be put back on permanent public display in Greece as they was prior to 1817. You stated that the nuclear FUEL (not waste), belongs to us as part of a contract you obviously knew nothing about.As it’s about reprocessing waste, in our facilities x Now you’ve read a little you now try to make out you knew what you was talking about all the time lol. Try reading what people say, not just wanting to attack them because you just don’t like them x TBH I don’t really give a shit about the marble carvings from Greece, I’ve never seen them accept on TV/ photo & don’t think I ever will no matter where they are. X" As I said, completely over your head. By the way, saying you don't give a shit about them, then commenting on a post about them, seems just a bit contradictory. | |||
"May aswell just shut down the British Museum. Just about everything in there is stolen. Oh and whilst we're at it we should give the land we sit on back to their rightful owners. I think should redress the imbalance between superpowers and smaller nations." So returning one stolen set of artifacts equates to shutting down the British museum! Do you not think they should be returned? | |||
"May aswell just shut down the British Museum. Just about everything in there is stolen. Oh and whilst we're at it we should give the land we sit on back to their rightful owners. I think should redress the imbalance between superpowers and smaller nations. So returning one stolen set of artifacts equates to shutting down the British museum! Do you not think they should be returned?" There are countless other stolen items inside that museum. Return them or don't. I'm not that arsed. | |||
"May aswell just shut down the British Museum. Just about everything in there is stolen. Oh and whilst we're at it we should give the land we sit on back to their rightful owners. I think should redress the imbalance between superpowers and smaller nations. So returning one stolen set of artifacts equates to shutting down the British museum! Do you not think they should be returned? There are countless other stolen items inside that museum. Return them or don't. I'm not that arsed." | |||
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"There is no reason why they couldn’t be 3D laser scanned & printed, the originals could then be sent back, but then where will this stop, will everything be sent back to it place of origin, or just the things those countries want to claim back. It’s just we have shit loads of nuclear waste belonging to other countries & I wouldn’t mind sending that back too x You do realise (probably not) that we agreed to take in and reprocess that nuclear fuel as part of a commercial contract? We are the legal owner. As opposed to stealing it. This may be a little bit over your head as it’s not from the Guardian x https://www.energylivenews.com/2020/09/28/uk-to-return-high-level-nuclear-waste-to-germany/ X This will definitely be over your head; If the commercial contract says it is to be returned, it will be returned. Can you point me in the direction of the commercial contract for the marbles stolen from Greece? I have already stated that the marbles should be given back, I have stated that they could be 3D scanned & printed & the originals sent back, I have also stated that they could be put back on permanent public display in Greece as they was prior to 1817. You stated that the nuclear FUEL (not waste), belongs to us as part of a contract you obviously knew nothing about.As it’s about reprocessing waste, in our facilities x Now you’ve read a little you now try to make out you knew what you was talking about all the time lol. Try reading what people say, not just wanting to attack them because you just don’t like them x TBH I don’t really give a shit about the marble carvings from Greece, I’ve never seen them accept on TV/ photo & don’t think I ever will no matter where they are. X As I said, completely over your head. By the way, saying you don't give a shit about them, then commenting on a post about them, seems just a bit contradictory." No you attack someone making a point with your usual uninformed volley of none facts, you get pulled on it, obviously it’s not over my head, as I pulled you on your none facts. You repeat the left mantra of deny & repeat the lie over & over till you believe it’s true. But the reality is it’s not over my head it’s over yours x The fact I don’t give a shit about them could mean that’s why I think they should go back, if I gave a shit I’d want to be a dick & keep them for no logical reason. I have no connection to them I’ve never been to see them, apart from some guy nicking them, that is the only connection any of us have to them unless we have some Greek heritage, but that is my opinion x | |||
"Why is Brussels getting involved? Nothing to do with them. Greece isn’t even a proper member. They need to keep out of our business now. " Why is Capt Lobster getting involved? Nothing to do with him. Greece isn’t even the country he's from. He need to keep out of their business now. | |||
"Why is Brussels getting involved? Nothing to do with them. Greece isn’t even a proper member. They need to keep out of our business now. " There is no logical reason not to return them, just my opinion x You do realise I’m getting pulled for disagreeing with you, imagine what I’d be getting if I dared to agree   lol x | |||
"Why is Brussels getting involved? Nothing to do with them. Greece isn’t even a proper member. They need to keep out of our business now. " Here's captain Lobster. | |||
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"Brussels should be thanking us for rescuing the marbles in the first place. The Turkish were using the place as a fort for Gods sake and three quarters of the Parthenon had been destroyed by the time Elgin stepped in. The sculptures that remained at the Parthenon after Elgin, if they weren’t taken for building materials were pretty much destroyed by local air pollution. " 30 minutes ago you said "Why is Brussels getting involved? Nothing to do with them. Greece isn’t even a proper member. They need to keep out of our business now." Now you say you want "Brussels" to get involved? Which is it? | |||
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"Good grief is there no depths to which Brussels won’t stoop? Now they are wading into our marbles. Ridiculous, up yours Delors! “Politicians from 12 EU countries have called on Boris Johnson to return the Elgin Marbles to Greece as a sign of its intent to build a positive relationship with the EU27 after Brexit. In a letter to the Prime Minister, seen by i, 30 MEPs “respectfully” request the UK amend the law to allow the British Museum, where they presently reside, to return the marbles. The artefacts, taken from Athens’s Acropolis by Lord Elgin early in the 19th century when Greece was under Ottoman rule, have been the subject of a a long-running dispute over their residence in London since they were first put on permanent display in 1817.“" This has nothing to do with Brussels it is to between us and Greece and they should be returned but not an EU matter. I love Greece so want such a great country to leave the EU they deserve better | |||
"Brussels should be thanking us for rescuing the marbles in the first place. The Turkish were using the place as a fort for Gods sake and three quarters of the Parthenon had been destroyed by the time Elgin stepped in. The sculptures that remained at the Parthenon after Elgin, if they weren’t taken for building materials were pretty much destroyed by local air pollution. 30 minutes ago you said "Why is Brussels getting involved? Nothing to do with them. Greece isn’t even a proper member. They need to keep out of our business now." Now you say you want "Brussels" to get involved? Which is it?" Any foreign governmental body, no matter how trumped up or silly we might find it, is allowed to pay tribute to the previous gracious actions of His Britannia Majesty’s Glorious Empire. They are not entitled to stick their nose in when it’s nothing to do with them. | |||
"Brussels should be thanking us for rescuing the marbles in the first place. The Turkish were using the place as a fort for Gods sake and three quarters of the Parthenon had been destroyed by the time Elgin stepped in. The sculptures that remained at the Parthenon after Elgin, if they weren’t taken for building materials were pretty much destroyed by local air pollution. 30 minutes ago you said "Why is Brussels getting involved? Nothing to do with them. Greece isn’t even a proper member. They need to keep out of our business now." Now you say you want "Brussels" to get involved? Which is it? Any foreign governmental body, no matter how trumped up or silly we might find it, is allowed to pay tribute to the previous gracious actions of His Britannia Majesty’s Glorious Empire. They are not entitled to stick their nose in when it’s nothing to do with them." You might want to reread that | |||
"May aswell just shut down the British Museum. Just about everything in there is stolen. Oh and whilst we're at it we should give the land we sit on back to their rightful owners. I think should redress the imbalance between superpowers and smaller nations." Yep! Think the OP needs to leave this one alone as not to open a can of worms. | |||
"May aswell just shut down the British Museum. Just about everything in there is stolen. Oh and whilst we're at it we should give the land we sit on back to their rightful owners. I think should redress the imbalance between superpowers and smaller nations. Yep! Think the OP needs to leave this one alone as not to open a can of worms. " I think that was being said sarcastically | |||
"Brussels should be thanking us for rescuing the marbles in the first place. The Turkish were using the place as a fort for Gods sake and three quarters of the Parthenon had been destroyed by the time Elgin stepped in. The sculptures that remained at the Parthenon after Elgin, if they weren’t taken for building materials were pretty much destroyed by local air pollution. 30 minutes ago you said "Why is Brussels getting involved? Nothing to do with them. Greece isn’t even a proper member. They need to keep out of our business now." Now you say you want "Brussels" to get involved? Which is it? Any foreign governmental body, no matter how trumped up or silly we might find it, is allowed to pay tribute to the previous gracious actions of His Britannia Majesty’s Glorious Empire. They are not entitled to stick their nose in when it’s nothing to do with them." So yes, and no, and some waffle about your empire fantasies. | |||
"Brussels should be thanking us for rescuing the marbles in the first place. The Turkish were using the place as a fort for Gods sake and three quarters of the Parthenon had been destroyed by the time Elgin stepped in. The sculptures that remained at the Parthenon after Elgin, if they weren’t taken for building materials were pretty much destroyed by local air pollution. 30 minutes ago you said "Why is Brussels getting involved? Nothing to do with them. Greece isn’t even a proper member. They need to keep out of our business now." Now you say you want "Brussels" to get involved? Which is it? Any foreign governmental body, no matter how trumped up or silly we might find it, is allowed to pay tribute to the previous gracious actions of His Britannia Majesty’s Glorious Empire. They are not entitled to stick their nose in when it’s nothing to do with them. You might want to reread that "In 1817 George IV was His Britannic Majesty. He was a man, unless you know better. | |||
"Brussels should be thanking us for rescuing the marbles in the first place. The Turkish were using the place as a fort for Gods sake and three quarters of the Parthenon had been destroyed by the time Elgin stepped in. The sculptures that remained at the Parthenon after Elgin, if they weren’t taken for building materials were pretty much destroyed by local air pollution. 30 minutes ago you said "Why is Brussels getting involved? Nothing to do with them. Greece isn’t even a proper member. They need to keep out of our business now." Now you say you want "Brussels" to get involved? Which is it? Any foreign governmental body, no matter how trumped up or silly we might find it, is allowed to pay tribute to the previous gracious actions of His Britannia Majesty’s Glorious Empire. They are not entitled to stick their nose in when it’s nothing to do with them. You might want to reread that
In 1817 George IV was His Britannic Majesty. He was a man, unless you know better."So Captain lobster, arch protagonist of the "new British empire", is banning countries from paying tribute to the empire? | |||
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"Even if Britain tried to give them back the EU would probably ban the export. "Probably | |||
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"maybe we should charge them for storage and security. "Congrats on yesterday ... some help from the ref of course
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"british history mostly celebrates how the country stole things from other countries over the last 500 years" So what's your opinion on the USA, Australia, NZ etc they stole the whole country, should they give it back, how about taking all the decendants of sla.ves back to their country of origin ? | |||
"british history mostly celebrates how the country stole things from other countries over the last 500 years" yep and what a great past it is | |||
"british history mostly celebrates how the country stole things from other countries over the last 500 yearsyep and what a great past it is " yes it is, while some nations were looking at the horizon we were building boats and sailing over it, discovering plants, remedies, mapping the world, building bridges...writing books... of course we could have just stayed on the shore, eating sand and living in caves but we didnt, that is called evolution lol | |||
"british history mostly celebrates how the country stole things from other countries over the last 500 years So what's your opinion on the USA, Australia, NZ etc they stole the whole country, should they give it back, how about taking all the decendants of sla.ves back to their country of origin ? " exactly, everyone in america except the native americans should fuck off and go live in? Hawaii lol coz they nicked that to! | |||
"british history mostly celebrates how the country stole things from other countries over the last 500 yearsyep and what a great past it is yes it is, while some nations were looking at the horizon we were building boats and sailing over it, discovering plants, remedies, mapping the world, building bridges...writing books... of course we could have just stayed on the shore, eating sand and living in caves but we didnt, that is called evolution lol "Your post is, to say the least, bonkers  | |||
"british history mostly celebrates how the country stole things from other countries over the last 500 yearsyep and what a great past it is yes it is, while some nations were looking at the horizon we were building boats and sailing over it, discovering plants, remedies, mapping the world, building bridges...writing books... of course we could have just stayed on the shore, eating sand and living in caves but we didnt, that is called evolution lol
Your post is, to say the least, bonkers "why? please explain | |||
"british history mostly celebrates how the country stole things from other countries over the last 500 years" Thats put an end to any further debate on Gibralter then. | |||
"Good grief is there no depths to which Brussels won’t stoop? Now they are wading into our marbles. Ridiculous, up yours Delors! “Politicians from 12 EU countries have called on Boris Johnson to return the Elgin Marbles to Greece as a sign of its intent to build a positive relationship with the EU27 after Brexit. In a letter to the Prime Minister, seen by i, 30 MEPs “respectfully” request the UK amend the law to allow the British Museum, where they presently reside, to return the marbles. The artefacts, taken from Athens’s Acropolis by Lord Elgin early in the 19th century when Greece was under Ottoman rule, have been the subject of a a long-running dispute over their residence in London since they were first put on permanent display in 1817.“" Maybe we should ask for Calais, Normandy, Brittany & Bordeaux in exchange | |||
"british history mostly celebrates how the country stole things from other countries over the last 500 yearsyep and what a great past it is yes it is, while some nations were looking at the horizon we were building boats and sailing over it, discovering plants, remedies, mapping the world, building bridges...writing books... of course we could have just stayed on the shore, eating sand and living in caves but we didnt, that is called evolution lol
Your post is, to say the least, bonkers
why? please explain "Ok When we were living in caves, eating "sand" well we weren't going out mapping the world ( that being said international connections were well established). Evolution is the way in which living organisms adapt to exploit an environmental niche to prosper. It's nothing to do with empire building. As for the looking at the horizon bit You might want to look at the history of Spain, Portugal, Italy. So in a nutshell your post tries to link things that are not linked whilst demonstrating a fairly fundamental lack of historical knowledge. | |||
"Good grief is there no depths to which Brussels won’t stoop? Now they are wading into our marbles. Ridiculous, up yours Delors! “Politicians from 12 EU countries have called on Boris Johnson to return the Elgin Marbles to Greece as a sign of its intent to build a positive relationship with the EU27 after Brexit. In a letter to the Prime Minister, seen by i, 30 MEPs “respectfully” request the UK amend the law to allow the British Museum, where they presently reside, to return the marbles. The artefacts, taken from Athens’s Acropolis by Lord Elgin early in the 19th century when Greece was under Ottoman rule, have been the subject of a a long-running dispute over their residence in London since they were first put on permanent display in 1817.“ Maybe we should ask for Calais, Normandy, Brittany & Bordeaux in exchange "we could ask for australia that was ours 200 years ago lol infact didnt we rule a large section of the world then, come on guys cough up we owned it in 1800 lol think of all those bridges and hospitals we left behind lol | |||
"Good grief is there no depths to which Brussels won’t stoop? Now they are wading into our marbles. Ridiculous, up yours Delors! “Politicians from 12 EU countries have called on Boris Johnson to return the Elgin Marbles to Greece as a sign of its intent to build a positive relationship with the EU27 after Brexit. In a letter to the Prime Minister, seen by i, 30 MEPs “respectfully” request the UK amend the law to allow the British Museum, where they presently reside, to return the marbles. The artefacts, taken from Athens’s Acropolis by Lord Elgin early in the 19th century when Greece was under Ottoman rule, have been the subject of a a long-running dispute over their residence in London since they were first put on permanent display in 1817.“ Maybe we should ask for Calais, Normandy, Brittany & Bordeaux in exchange
we could ask for australia that was ours 200 years ago lol infact didnt we rule a large section of the world then, come on guys cough up we owned it in 1800 lol think of all those bridges and hospitals we left behind lol "No we didn't "own" Australia, we occupied it. And in the process had a good go at exterminating the indigenous population. | |||
"british history mostly celebrates how the country stole things from other countries over the last 500 yearsyep and what a great past it is yes it is, while some nations were looking at the horizon we were building boats and sailing over it, discovering plants, remedies, mapping the world, building bridges...writing books... of course we could have just stayed on the shore, eating sand and living in caves but we didnt, that is called evolution lol
Your post is, to say the least, bonkers
why? please explain
Ok
When we were living in caves, eating "sand" well we weren't going out mapping the world ( that being said international connections were well established).
Evolution is the way in which living organisms adapt to exploit an environmental niche to prosper. It's nothing to do with empire building.
As for the looking at the horizon bit
You might want to look at the history of Spain, Portugal, Italy.
So in a nutshell your post tries to link things that are not linked whilst demonstrating a fairly fundamental lack of historical knowledge."wrong wrong wrong lol stones, arrows swords guns... we had evolved to that point via iron age etc, a lot of europe is obviously loosely connected, so europe progressed around the same pace... while other nations still didnt know if the earth was round or flat, im not sure native americans even considered that fact in 1700? where as the europeans were already mapping the solar system.... this is evolution, evolution isnt just animals and plants lol .... i could go on but i wont, read a book lol | |||
"british history mostly celebrates how the country stole things from other countries over the last 500 yearsyep and what a great past it is yes it is, while some nations were looking at the horizon we were building boats and sailing over it, discovering plants, remedies, mapping the world, building bridges...writing books... of course we could have just stayed on the shore, eating sand and living in caves but we didnt, that is called evolution lol
Your post is, to say the least, bonkers
why? please explain
Ok
When we were living in caves, eating "sand" well we weren't going out mapping the world ( that being said international connections were well established).
Evolution is the way in which living organisms adapt to exploit an environmental niche to prosper. It's nothing to do with empire building.
As for the looking at the horizon bit
You might want to look at the history of Spain, Portugal, Italy.
So in a nutshell your post tries to link things that are not linked whilst demonstrating a fairly fundamental lack of historical knowledge.
wrong wrong wrong lol stones, arrows swords guns... we had evolved to that point via iron age etc, a lot of europe is obviously loosely connected, so europe progressed around the same pace... while other nations still didnt know if the earth was round or flat, im not sure native americans even considered that fact in 1700? where as the europeans were already mapping the solar system.... this is evolution, evolution isnt just animals and plants lol .... i could go on but i wont, read a book lol "Your post is embarrassing. Gunpowder came from China, the most advanced bows and arrows came from the far East. The earth was proved to be round by the ancient Greeks before Copernicus developed a model of the solar system, he was Polish. As I've just explained to you, evolution is about species. Frankly, you just don't know what you are posting about. | |||
"british history mostly celebrates how the country stole things from other countries over the last 500 yearsyep and what a great past it is yes it is, while some nations were looking at the horizon we were building boats and sailing over it, discovering plants, remedies, mapping the world, building bridges...writing books... of course we could have just stayed on the shore, eating sand and living in caves but we didnt, that is called evolution lol
Your post is, to say the least, bonkers
why? please explain
Ok
When we were living in caves, eating "sand" well we weren't going out mapping the world ( that being said international connections were well established).
Evolution is the way in which living organisms adapt to exploit an environmental niche to prosper. It's nothing to do with empire building.
As for the looking at the horizon bit
You might want to look at the history of Spain, Portugal, Italy.
So in a nutshell your post tries to link things that are not linked whilst demonstrating a fairly fundamental lack of historical knowledge.
wrong wrong wrong lol stones, arrows swords guns... we had evolved to that point via iron age etc, a lot of europe is obviously loosely connected, so europe progressed around the same pace... while other nations still didnt know if the earth was round or flat, im not sure native americans even considered that fact in 1700? where as the europeans were already mapping the solar system.... this is evolution, evolution isnt just animals and plants lol .... i could go on but i wont, read a book lol
Your post is embarrassing.
Gunpowder came from China, the most advanced bows and arrows came from the far East.
The earth was proved to be round by the ancient Greeks before Copernicus developed a model of the solar system, he was Polish.
As I've just explained to you, evolution is about species.
Frankly, you just don't know what you are posting about."i know all that lol im not claiming britain developed every system and every find! but we used them all to great effect while others didnt, we were talking about could we be proud of our history, i say we can, we didnt just steal stuff like is being suggested! Shipping routes werent given away! watch the terror on tv now, lots of british sailors died mapping the world, its you thats embarrassing as you seem unable to put it altogether, do you now admit its called evolution lol | |||
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"Evolution (biology) the gradual development of plants, animals, etc. over many years as they adapt to changes in their environment the gradual development of something i.e anything can evolve, your grasp of the english language for example!" As you put it "Evolution (biology)" Thanks for proving yourself wrong. Again. | |||
"Evolution (biology) the gradual development of plants, animals, etc. over many years as they adapt to changes in their environment the gradual development of something i.e anything can evolve, your grasp of the english language for example! As you put it "Evolution (biology)" Thanks for proving yourself wrong. Again." Lol yes it applies to biology obviously But second line! It applies in many ways, ref gradule change, guess it doesn't apply to your grasp of English though as that's not evolving anytime soon lol | |||
"Even if Britain tried to give them back the EU would probably ban the export.
Probably " stuff filling out the export forms for shipping them back to Greece | |||
"Evolution (biology) the gradual development of plants, animals, etc. over many years as they adapt to changes in their environment the gradual development of something i.e anything can evolve, your grasp of the english language for example! As you put it "Evolution (biology)" Thanks for proving yourself wrong. Again. Lol yes it applies to biology obviously But second line! It applies in many ways, ref gradule change, guess it doesn't apply to your grasp of English though as that's not evolving anytime soon lol "Says the individual who claims people eat sand in caves Hilarious | |||
"Evolution (biology) the gradual development of plants, animals, etc. over many years as they adapt to changes in their environment the gradual development of something i.e anything can evolve, your grasp of the english language for example! As you put it "Evolution (biology)" Thanks for proving yourself wrong. Again." So are you stating categorically that the earth has not evolved from its conception? That it’s exactly the same as when it first formed millions of years ago? No volcanic eruptions or earth quakes have had any effect on the planet? No meteor showers, or solar storms? The ice ages of the past didn’t have any effect on the evolution of the planet earth? Wow I really hope your teaching future generations about your new ideas about the evolution of the earth & solar system x Stephen Hawkins would be thinking he’d wasted his life if he was still alive, he could of just listened to you & saved his time x | |||
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"Evolution (biology) the gradual development of plants, animals, etc. over many years as they adapt to changes in their environment the gradual development of something i.e anything can evolve, your grasp of the english language for example! As you put it "Evolution (biology)" Thanks for proving yourself wrong. Again. Lol yes it applies to biology obviously But second line! It applies in many ways, ref gradule change, guess it doesn't apply to your grasp of English though as that's not evolving anytime soon lol
Says the individual who claims people eat sand in caves
Hilarious"why cant you just accept your own country has achieved many great things throughout history? why knock your own country? it doesnt give you any kudos. the british have shaped the world in lots of ways for the better | |||
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"like when we saved the elgin marbles lol" True, but now we should do the right thing & return them x | |||
"Evolution (biology) the gradual development of plants, animals, etc. over many years as they adapt to changes in their environment the gradual development of something i.e anything can evolve, your grasp of the english language for example! As you put it "Evolution (biology)" Thanks for proving yourself wrong. Again. Lol yes it applies to biology obviously But second line! It applies in many ways, ref gradule change, guess it doesn't apply to your grasp of English though as that's not evolving anytime soon lol
Says the individual who claims people eat sand in caves
Hilarious
why cant you just accept your own country has achieved many great things throughout history? why knock your own country? it doesnt give you any kudos.
the british have shaped the world in lots of ways for the better "Here's a hint for you, just because you stick a flag on something doesn't make it better. It is what it is. | |||
"Evolution (biology) the gradual development of plants, animals, etc. over many years as they adapt to changes in their environment the gradual development of something i.e anything can evolve, your grasp of the english language for example! As you put it "Evolution (biology)" Thanks for proving yourself wrong. Again. Lol yes it applies to biology obviously But second line! It applies in many ways, ref gradule change, guess it doesn't apply to your grasp of English though as that's not evolving anytime soon lol
Says the individual who claims people eat sand in caves
Hilarious
why cant you just accept your own country has achieved many great things throughout history? why knock your own country? it doesnt give you any kudos.
the british have shaped the world in lots of ways for the better
Here's a hint for you, just because you stick a flag on something doesn't make it better.
It is what it is.
"Depends on the flag The Empires improvement of the world is beyond compare | |||
"Evolution (biology) the gradual development of plants, animals, etc. over many years as they adapt to changes in their environment the gradual development of something i.e anything can evolve, your grasp of the english language for example! As you put it "Evolution (biology)" Thanks for proving yourself wrong. Again. Lol yes it applies to biology obviously But second line! It applies in many ways, ref gradule change, guess it doesn't apply to your grasp of English though as that's not evolving anytime soon lol
Says the individual who claims people eat sand in caves
Hilarious
why cant you just accept your own country has achieved many great things throughout history? why knock your own country? it doesnt give you any kudos.
the british have shaped the world in lots of ways for the better
Here's a hint for you, just because you stick a flag on something doesn't make it better.
It is what it is.
Depends on the flag
The Empires improvement of the world is beyond compare"
Tell us more. | |||
"Evolution (biology) the gradual development of plants, animals, etc. over many years as they adapt to changes in their environment the gradual development of something i.e anything can evolve, your grasp of the english language for example! As you put it "Evolution (biology)" Thanks for proving yourself wrong. Again. Lol yes it applies to biology obviously But second line! It applies in many ways, ref gradule change, guess it doesn't apply to your grasp of English though as that's not evolving anytime soon lol
Says the individual who claims people eat sand in caves
Hilarious
why cant you just accept your own country has achieved many great things throughout history? why knock your own country? it doesnt give you any kudos.
the british have shaped the world in lots of ways for the better
Here's a hint for you, just because you stick a flag on something doesn't make it better.
It is what it is.
Depends on the flag
The Empires improvement of the world is beyond compare
Tell us more."Go on then, name another country that’s had such a positive influence. | |||
"Evolution (biology) the gradual development of plants, animals, etc. over many years as they adapt to changes in their environment the gradual development of something i.e anything can evolve, your grasp of the english language for example! As you put it "Evolution (biology)" Thanks for proving yourself wrong. Again. Lol yes it applies to biology obviously But second line! It applies in many ways, ref gradule change, guess it doesn't apply to your grasp of English though as that's not evolving anytime soon lol
Says the individual who claims people eat sand in caves
Hilarious
why cant you just accept your own country has achieved many great things throughout history? why knock your own country? it doesnt give you any kudos.
the british have shaped the world in lots of ways for the better
Here's a hint for you, just because you stick a flag on something doesn't make it better.
It is what it is.
Depends on the flag
The Empires improvement of the world is beyond compare
Tell us more.
Go on then, name another country that’s had such a positive influence. "As positive as what? I've got no clue what your current empire fantasy is about. I'm just here for the comedy. | |||
"Good grief is there no depths to which Brussels won’t stoop? Now they are wading into our marbles. Ridiculous, up yours Delors! “Politicians from 12 EU countries have called on Boris Johnson to return the Elgin Marbles to Greece as a sign of its intent to build a positive relationship with the EU27 after Brexit. In a letter to the Prime Minister, seen by i, 30 MEPs “respectfully” request the UK amend the law to allow the British Museum, where they presently reside, to return the marbles. The artefacts, taken from Athens’s Acropolis by Lord Elgin early in the 19th century when Greece was under Ottoman rule, have been the subject of a a long-running dispute over their residence in London since they were first put on permanent display in 1817.“" Errrrrmm they're not 'ours'. If my great-grandfather stole a item from your family and it was written in history that he took it, wouldn't you want them back? Problem with us Brits, we don't teach our real history. | |||
"Evolution (biology) the gradual development of plants, animals, etc. over many years as they adapt to changes in their environment the gradual development of something i.e anything can evolve, your grasp of the english language for example! As you put it "Evolution (biology)" Thanks for proving yourself wrong. Again. Lol yes it applies to biology obviously But second line! It applies in many ways, ref gradule change, guess it doesn't apply to your grasp of English though as that's not evolving anytime soon lol
Says the individual who claims people eat sand in caves
Hilarious
why cant you just accept your own country has achieved many great things throughout history? why knock your own country? it doesnt give you any kudos.
the british have shaped the world in lots of ways for the better
Here's a hint for you, just because you stick a flag on something doesn't make it better.
It is what it is.
Depends on the flag
The Empires improvement of the world is beyond compare
Tell us more.
Go on then, name another country that’s had such a positive influence. "France, yunno that entire enlightenment thing Roman Republic, kind of did the empire thing, along with Macedonia Portugal, kind of discovered America, opened up the far East to Europe China, too many things to mention Vikings, not really a nation but kind of got everywhere | |||
"Even if Britain tried to give them back the EU would probably ban the export. "Or they would get stuck at Dover port with all the red tape,  What the government should be doing is paying Iran all that money that is owed to them so poor Nazarine can be released at last...  | |||
"Evolution (biology) the gradual development of plants, animals, etc. over many years as they adapt to changes in their environment the gradual development of something i.e anything can evolve, your grasp of the english language for example! As you put it "Evolution (biology)" Thanks for proving yourself wrong. Again. Lol yes it applies to biology obviously But second line! It applies in many ways, ref gradule change, guess it doesn't apply to your grasp of English though as that's not evolving anytime soon lol
Says the individual who claims people eat sand in caves
Hilarious
why cant you just accept your own country has achieved many great things throughout history? why knock your own country? it doesnt give you any kudos.
the british have shaped the world in lots of ways for the better
Here's a hint for you, just because you stick a flag on something doesn't make it better.
It is what it is.
Depends on the flag
The Empires improvement of the world is beyond compare
Tell us more.
Go on then, name another country that’s had such a positive influence.
France, yunno that entire enlightenment thing
Roman Republic, kind of did the empire thing, along with Macedonia
Portugal, kind of discovered America, opened up the far East to Europe
China, too many things to mention
Vikings, not really a nation but kind of got everywhere
"Seems its you that's embarrassing, vikings famously couldn't get everywhere coz they had shit boats lol im not giving you a history lesson, I've already given you one in English, but there was a British empire for a reason, the biggest empire in history and it wasn't that we had a lot of flags lol | |||
"Evolution (biology) the gradual development of plants, animals, etc. over many years as they adapt to changes in their environment the gradual development of something i.e anything can evolve, your grasp of the english language for example! As you put it "Evolution (biology)" Thanks for proving yourself wrong. Again. Lol yes it applies to biology obviously But second line! It applies in many ways, ref gradule change, guess it doesn't apply to your grasp of English though as that's not evolving anytime soon lol
Says the individual who claims people eat sand in caves
Hilarious
why cant you just accept your own country has achieved many great things throughout history? why knock your own country? it doesnt give you any kudos.
the british have shaped the world in lots of ways for the better
Here's a hint for you, just because you stick a flag on something doesn't make it better.
It is what it is.
Depends on the flag
The Empires improvement of the world is beyond compare
Tell us more.
Go on then, name another country that’s had such a positive influence.
France, yunno that entire enlightenment thing
Roman Republic, kind of did the empire thing, along with Macedonia
Portugal, kind of discovered America, opened up the far East to Europe
China, too many things to mention
Vikings, not really a nation but kind of got everywhere
"Nonsense. Enlightenment started with Newton and Bacon. Roman Empire nowhere near the size of the British Empire. Portugal one of the founders of the the people trade and mass genocide of the Native Americans. China, gunpowder and er that’s it Vikings what uh laughable | |||
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"Evolution (biology) the gradual development of plants, animals, etc. over many years as they adapt to changes in their environment the gradual development of something i.e anything can evolve, your grasp of the english language for example! As you put it "Evolution (biology)" Thanks for proving yourself wrong. Again. Lol yes it applies to biology obviously But second line! It applies in many ways, ref gradule change, guess it doesn't apply to your grasp of English though as that's not evolving anytime soon lol
Says the individual who claims people eat sand in caves
Hilarious
why cant you just accept your own country has achieved many great things throughout history? why knock your own country? it doesnt give you any kudos.
the british have shaped the world in lots of ways for the better
Here's a hint for you, just because you stick a flag on something doesn't make it better.
It is what it is.
Depends on the flag
The Empires improvement of the world is beyond compare
Tell us more.
Go on then, name another country that’s had such a positive influence.
France, yunno that entire enlightenment thing
Roman Republic, kind of did the empire thing, along with Macedonia
Portugal, kind of discovered America, opened up the far East to Europe
China, too many things to mention
Vikings, not really a nation but kind of got everywhere
Nonsense.
Enlightenment started with Newton and Bacon.
Roman Empire nowhere near the size of the British Empire.
Portugal one of the founders of the the people trade and mass genocide of the Native Americans.
China, gunpowder and er that’s it
Vikings what uh laughable "The Vikings just asked me to tell you, that your empire fantasies are also laughable. | |||
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"It’s not like Greece haven’t been asking for the marbles back for the last 30 years... but heck... timing suits you... Bit like India asking for the coronation diamond back... but what the hell... hmmmm" It’s Brussels that have started the fuss again this time, I’m just reporting it | |||
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"Evolution (biology) the gradual development of plants, animals, etc. over many years as they adapt to changes in their environment the gradual development of something i.e anything can evolve, your grasp of the english language for example! As you put it "Evolution (biology)" Thanks for proving yourself wrong. Again. Lol yes it applies to biology obviously But second line! It applies in many ways, ref gradule change, guess it doesn't apply to your grasp of English though as that's not evolving anytime soon lol
Says the individual who claims people eat sand in caves
Hilarious
why cant you just accept your own country has achieved many great things throughout history? why knock your own country? it doesnt give you any kudos.
the british have shaped the world in lots of ways for the better
Here's a hint for you, just because you stick a flag on something doesn't make it better.
It is what it is.
Depends on the flag
The Empires improvement of the world is beyond compare
Tell us more.
Go on then, name another country that’s had such a positive influence.
France, yunno that entire enlightenment thing
Roman Republic, kind of did the empire thing, along with Macedonia
Portugal, kind of discovered America, opened up the far East to Europe
China, too many things to mention
Vikings, not really a nation but kind of got everywhere
Seems its you that's embarrassing, vikings famously couldn't get everywhere coz they had shit boats lol im not giving you a history lesson, I've already given you one in English, but there was a British empire for a reason, the biggest empire in history and it wasn't that we had a lot of flags lol "Frankly you are laughable wrong Vikings, from Norway to Constantinople in "shit boats" North Africa Caucasus Built states in Sicily France Ireland Biggest empire in history, take a look at China and Mongolia Seriously, go to school | |||
"Evolution (biology) the gradual development of plants, animals, etc. over many years as they adapt to changes in their environment the gradual development of something i.e anything can evolve, your grasp of the english language for example! As you put it "Evolution (biology)" Thanks for proving yourself wrong. Again. Lol yes it applies to biology obviously But second line! It applies in many ways, ref gradule change, guess it doesn't apply to your grasp of English though as that's not evolving anytime soon lol
Says the individual who claims people eat sand in caves
Hilarious
why cant you just accept your own country has achieved many great things throughout history? why knock your own country? it doesnt give you any kudos.
the british have shaped the world in lots of ways for the better
Here's a hint for you, just because you stick a flag on something doesn't make it better.
It is what it is.
Depends on the flag
The Empires improvement of the world is beyond compare
Tell us more.
Go on then, name another country that’s had such a positive influence.
France, yunno that entire enlightenment thing
Roman Republic, kind of did the empire thing, along with Macedonia
Portugal, kind of discovered America, opened up the far East to Europe
China, too many things to mention
Vikings, not really a nation but kind of got everywhere
Nonsense.
Enlightenment started with Newton and Bacon.
Roman Empire nowhere near the size of the British Empire.
Portugal one of the founders of the the people trade and mass genocide of the Native Americans.
China, gunpowder and er that’s it
Vikings what uh laughable "Utter nonsense The enlightenment started in 1453 with Byzantine scholars fleeing to the city states if Italy. Your comments about the mass genocide are frankly, potty, go Google the importation of diseases to north America. China, your legendary lack of knowledge comes shining through. Go stick a flag in a tree, you can then claim it's an English tree, and happier for it. | |||
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"Even if Britain tried to give them back the EU would probably ban the export.
Or they would get stuck at Dover port with all the red tape, What the government should be doing is paying Iran all that money that is owed to them so poor Nazarine can be released at last... "Pay them or dont pay them wont make a bit of difference to when the let her go.dont get me wrong i dont think she has done anything wrong but if you think they will let her go if we pay a debt your wrong | |||
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If they want them back then they can send someone over with the necessary gear trucks crates ect and they can come take them back.
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"Even if Britain tried to give them back the EU would probably ban the export.
Or they would get stuck at Dover port with all the red tape, What the government should be doing is paying Iran all that money that is owed to them so poor Nazarine can be released at last... "That’s a different thread | |||
