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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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£2,607,767.67 On a new press briefing room.
£1.8 million for the “main works” (comfy chair for Laura Kuensberg?)
£200,000 for “long lead items”
£33,000 for “broadband equipment” (expensive router that)
£100,000 (around) a year for the press secretary, a former journalist (surprise surprise) Allegra Stratton.
Yep, we are going full on USA style briefings.
And nurses are getting a pay rise of how much? |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
bournemouth |
Government and public body costs are always stupidly high, there can be a number of reasons for this, 1 the people responsible for agreeing costs are absolutely useless and companies escalate the cost of the materials and labour or 2 those responsible are taking bribes from companies. Two of my oldest friends were in the building trade one told me one of his larger builds had two extra one bed houses added by giving a bribe and the other who spent time as a site agent for a large national builder told me his company did work for planners and building control inspectors free of charge.
When you see details of some of the pfi deals and the cost of replacing light bulbs etc you see why stuff costs so much.
Of course it's easier to blame the government than the civil servant responsible |
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"Government and public body costs are always stupidly high, there can be a number of reasons for this, 1 the people responsible for agreeing costs are absolutely useless and companies escalate the cost of the materials and labour or 2 those responsible are taking bribes from companies. Two of my oldest friends were in the building trade one told me one of his larger builds had two extra one bed houses added by giving a bribe and the other who spent time as a site agent for a large national builder told me his company did work for planners and building control inspectors free of charge.
When you see details of some of the pfi deals and the cost of replacing light bulbs etc you see why stuff costs so much.
Of course it's easier to blame the government than the civil servant responsible "
I'm presuming the exorbitant cost of refurbishing no 10 is also someone's else's fault,
Can I ask a question?
What are the gmnt actually paid to do?
Are they actually responsible for anything?
Its just that for you and the rest of the fan club there is a seemingly never ending supply of people who takes accountability.
The civil service,nhs trusts,the media, the eu.
Do you think there will ever come a point when something will happen and you will actually hold them responsible? |
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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago
Manchester |
"Government and public body costs are always stupidly high, there can be a number of reasons for this, 1 the people responsible for agreeing costs are absolutely useless and companies escalate the cost of the materials and labour or 2 those responsible are taking bribes from companies. Two of my oldest friends were in the building trade one told me one of his larger builds had two extra one bed houses added by giving a bribe and the other who spent time as a site agent for a large national builder told me his company did work for planners and building control inspectors free of charge.
When you see details of some of the pfi deals and the cost of replacing light bulbs etc you see why stuff costs so much.
Of course it's easier to blame the government than the civil servant responsible
I'm presuming the exorbitant cost of refurbishing no 10 is also someone's else's fault,
Can I ask a question?
What are the gmnt actually paid to do?
Are they actually responsible for anything?
Its just that for you and the rest of the fan club there is a seemingly never ending supply of people who takes accountability.
The civil service,nhs trusts,the media, the eu.
Do you think there will ever come a point when something will happen and you will actually hold them responsible?"
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I would rather the government had what they need to deliver effective briefings in times of crisis. This pandemic has highlighted that.
I would also rather Nurses and Carers got a pay rise.
I see an emotive link and bad timing.
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"I would rather the government had what they need to deliver effective briefings in times of crisis. This pandemic has highlighted that.
Why have they waited a year to set one up ? "
Because they are a shit government. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Government and public body costs are always stupidly high, there can be a number of reasons for this, 1 the people responsible for agreeing costs are absolutely useless and companies escalate the cost of the materials and labour or 2 those responsible are taking bribes from companies. Two of my oldest friends were in the building trade one told me one of his larger builds had two extra one bed houses added by giving a bribe and the other who spent time as a site agent for a large national builder told me his company did work for planners and building control inspectors free of charge.
When you see details of some of the pfi deals and the cost of replacing light bulbs etc you see why stuff costs so much.
Of course it's easier to blame the government than the civil servant responsible "
At which point then do Governments shoulder the responsibility? What’s the point otherwise? Do away with Government altogether and just have a paid for Civil Service thats unelected.
Governments quickly take plaudits as the current incumbents have done with a very successful vaccine roll out, the gamble to go with giving as many one dose before the recommended second dose has so far seemed to have worked out.
Finalisation of Brexit probably resulted in the UK not getting dragged into the Astra Zeneca debacle in Europe thus resulting in the UK still using it on the over 65’s and thus saving more lives.
The Current Government will take the credit or should that also be given to those in the back room and further down the food chain? |
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"Government and public body costs are always stupidly high, there can be a number of reasons for this, 1 the people responsible for agreeing costs are absolutely useless and companies escalate the cost of the materials and labour or 2 those responsible are taking bribes from companies. Two of my oldest friends were in the building trade one told me one of his larger builds had two extra one bed houses added by giving a bribe and the other who spent time as a site agent for a large national builder told me his company did work for planners and building control inspectors free of charge.
When you see details of some of the pfi deals and the cost of replacing light bulbs etc you see why stuff costs so much.
Of course it's easier to blame the government than the civil servant responsible
At which point then do Governments shoulder the responsibility? What’s the point otherwise? Do away with Government altogether and just have a paid for Civil Service thats unelected.
Governments quickly take plaudits as the current incumbents have done with a very successful vaccine roll out, the gamble to go with giving as many one dose before the recommended second dose has so far seemed to have worked out.
Finalisation of Brexit probably resulted in the UK not getting dragged into the Astra Zeneca debacle in Europe thus resulting in the UK still using it on the over 65’s and thus saving more lives.
The Current Government will take the credit or should that also be given to those in the back room and further down the food chain?"
Its absolutely comical.
They are literally not responsible for anything.
It always someone's else's fault.
I wonder where they get it from. |
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"I would rather the government had what they need to deliver effective briefings in times of crisis. This pandemic has highlighted that.
Why have they waited a year to set one up ?
Because they are a shit government. "
To be fair they are the only government to have opened up their communications in this way.
It is part of much wider overhaul being undertaken - the cornerstone of which is the televising of the press briefings which will now allow an unfiltered account of what they are up to  .
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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago
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Why do we suddenly need this room? It seems to me we have managed up until now without it. The covid press conferences were ok for giving information and getting questions once people learnt how to turn their mics on and off |
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"I would rather the government had what they need to deliver effective briefings in times of crisis. This pandemic has highlighted that.
Why have they waited a year to set one up ?
Because they are a shit government.
To be fair they are the only government to have opened up their communications in this way.
It is part of much wider overhaul being undertaken - the cornerstone of which is the televising of the press briefings which will now allow an unfiltered account of what they are up to .
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The inomy of daily briefings from a pm who hasn't answered a single question in the last 12 months is almost too rich.
Are they still going to try to ban anyone to critical? |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"£2,607,767.67 On a new press briefing room.
£1.8 million for the “main works” (comfy chair for Laura Kuensberg?)
£200,000 for “long lead items”
£33,000 for “broadband equipment” (expensive router that)
£100,000 (around) a year for the press secretary, a former journalist (surprise surprise) Allegra Stratton.
Yep, we are going full on USA style briefings.
And nurses are getting a pay rise of how much?"
What a waste of money just following America pathetic and discracefull |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Why do we suddenly need this room? It seems to me we have managed up until now without it. The covid press conferences were ok for giving information and getting questions once people learnt how to turn their mics on and off"
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"I would rather the government had what they need to deliver effective briefings in times of crisis. This pandemic has highlighted that.
Why have they waited a year to set one up ?
Because they are a shit government.
To be fair they are the only government to have opened up their communications in this way.
It is part of much wider overhaul being undertaken - the cornerstone of which is the televising of the press briefings which will now allow an unfiltered account of what they are up to .
The inomy of daily briefings from a pm who hasn't answered a single question in the last 12 months is almost too rich.
Are they still going to try to ban anyone to critical?"
Ask yourself this, would you rather read about what the government has briefed the press on, filtered and adjusted by your preferred choice publication, or be able to see and hear exactly what they have said?
The daily press briefing has always been a thing, and should not be confused with the current covid briefings we have been receiving.
The difference going forward will be the live access we will have to what goes on behind previously closed doors.
You shouldn't be complaining about it, welcome it with open arms - no longer will you need to google and link Guardian stories and face a barrage of replies bemoaning your bias. There will be clips and direct quotes that prove exactly what the government action is for all manner of policy and announcements  |
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"I would rather the government had what they need to deliver effective briefings in times of crisis. This pandemic has highlighted that.
Why have they waited a year to set one up ?
Because they are a shit government.
To be fair they are the only government to have opened up their communications in this way.
It is part of much wider overhaul being undertaken - the cornerstone of which is the televising of the press briefings which will now allow an unfiltered account of what they are up to .
The inomy of daily briefings from a pm who hasn't answered a single question in the last 12 months is almost too rich.
Are they still going to try to ban anyone to critical?
Ask yourself this, would you rather read about what the government has briefed the press on, filtered and adjusted by your preferred choice publication, or be able to see and hear exactly what they have said?
The daily press briefing has always been a thing, and should not be confused with the current covid briefings we have been receiving.
The difference going forward will be the live access we will have to what goes on behind previously closed doors.
You shouldn't be complaining about it, welcome it with open arms - no longer will you need to google and link Guardian stories and face a barrage of replies bemoaning your bias. There will be clips and direct quotes that prove exactly what the government action is for all manner of policy and announcements "
I'm not complaining at all..but I thought he had hired a spokesmen so he doesnt have to even pretend at answering questions now? |
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"I would rather the government had what they need to deliver effective briefings in times of crisis. This pandemic has highlighted that.
Why have they waited a year to set one up ?
Because they are a shit government.
To be fair they are the only government to have opened up their communications in this way.
It is part of much wider overhaul being undertaken - the cornerstone of which is the televising of the press briefings which will now allow an unfiltered account of what they are up to .
The inomy of daily briefings from a pm who hasn't answered a single question in the last 12 months is almost too rich.
Are they still going to try to ban anyone to critical?
Ask yourself this, would you rather read about what the government has briefed the press on, filtered and adjusted by your preferred choice publication, or be able to see and hear exactly what they have said?
The daily press briefing has always been a thing, and should not be confused with the current covid briefings we have been receiving.
The difference going forward will be the live access we will have to what goes on behind previously closed doors.
You shouldn't be complaining about it, welcome it with open arms - no longer will you need to google and link Guardian stories and face a barrage of replies bemoaning your bias. There will be clips and direct quotes that prove exactly what the government action is for all manner of policy and announcements
I'm not complaining at all..but I thought he had hired a spokesmen so he doesnt have to even pretend at answering questions now?"
Ok, thats on record - you are not complaining about it |
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"I would rather the government had what they need to deliver effective briefings in times of crisis. This pandemic has highlighted that.
Why have they waited a year to set one up ?
Because they are a shit government.
To be fair they are the only government to have opened up their communications in this way.
It is part of much wider overhaul being undertaken - the cornerstone of which is the televising of the press briefings which will now allow an unfiltered account of what they are up to .
The inomy of daily briefings from a pm who hasn't answered a single question in the last 12 months is almost too rich.
Are they still going to try to ban anyone to critical?
Ask yourself this, would you rather read about what the government has briefed the press on, filtered and adjusted by your preferred choice publication, or be able to see and hear exactly what they have said?
The daily press briefing has always been a thing, and should not be confused with the current covid briefings we have been receiving.
The difference going forward will be the live access we will have to what goes on behind previously closed doors.
You shouldn't be complaining about it, welcome it with open arms - no longer will you need to google and link Guardian stories and face a barrage of replies bemoaning your bias. There will be clips and direct quotes that prove exactly what the government action is for all manner of policy and announcements
I'm not complaining at all..but I thought he had hired a spokesmen so he doesnt have to even pretend at answering questions now?
Ok, thats on record - you are not complaining about it "
Give Lionel a chance, I'm sure there with be loads of things that Lionel will be moaning about.
Most of it will have nothing whatsoever to be about what the original post was about though! |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
bournemouth |
"Government and public body costs are always stupidly high, there can be a number of reasons for this, 1 the people responsible for agreeing costs are absolutely useless and companies escalate the cost of the materials and labour or 2 those responsible are taking bribes from companies. Two of my oldest friends were in the building trade one told me one of his larger builds had two extra one bed houses added by giving a bribe and the other who spent time as a site agent for a large national builder told me his company did work for planners and building control inspectors free of charge.
When you see details of some of the pfi deals and the cost of replacing light bulbs etc you see why stuff costs so much.
Of course it's easier to blame the government than the civil servant responsible
I'm presuming the exorbitant cost of refurbishing no 10 is also someone's else's fault,
Can I ask a question?
What are the gmnt actually paid to do?
Are they actually responsible for anything?
Its just that for you and the rest of the fan club there is a seemingly never ending supply of people who takes accountability.
The civil service,nhs trusts,the media, the eu.
Do you think there will ever come a point when something will happen and you will actually hold them responsible?"
I doubt very much number ten needed much spent on it, obviously its needs to be at an acceptable standard for visiting heads of state etc but 200 grand is a ridiculous amount I agree.
However despite what you may claim it's not possible for ministers to do everything in their dept, thsts what civil servants are paid to do and I doubt many MPs have any idea what it costs to build stuff anymore than the civil service appears to, however it is the job of the civil service to know and then advise their minister, it's a problem throughout the public sector and beyond, we have a holiday flat and some of the costs are ridiculously high yet are accepted by some as they have no idea
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
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"Government and public body costs are always stupidly high, there can be a number of reasons for this, 1 the people responsible for agreeing costs are absolutely useless and companies escalate the cost of the materials and labour or 2 those responsible are taking bribes from companies. Two of my oldest friends were in the building trade one told me one of his larger builds had two extra one bed houses added by giving a bribe and the other who spent time as a site agent for a large national builder told me his company did work for planners and building control inspectors free of charge.
When you see details of some of the pfi deals and the cost of replacing light bulbs etc you see why stuff costs so much.
Of course it's easier to blame the government than the civil servant responsible
At which point then do Governments shoulder the responsibility? What’s the point otherwise? Do away with Government altogether and just have a paid for Civil Service thats unelected.
Governments quickly take plaudits as the current incumbents have done with a very successful vaccine roll out, the gamble to go with giving as many one dose before the recommended second dose has so far seemed to have worked out.
Finalisation of Brexit probably resulted in the UK not getting dragged into the Astra Zeneca debacle in Europe thus resulting in the UK still using it on the over 65’s and thus saving more lives.
The Current Government will take the credit or should that also be given to those in the back room and further down the food chain?"
The government is there to take decisions and create policy, many blame them for a delay in lockdown so therefore they should be credited for the vaccine decision, lionel blames the government for everything yet credits the nhs for the vaccine rollout, have they made mistakes of course, as have all governments, at the end of this year or next we can have a full inquiry to learn lessons and if necessary apportion blame and credit |
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By *andy 1Couple
over a year ago
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"I would rather the government had what they need to deliver effective briefings in times of crisis. This pandemic has highlighted that.
Why have they waited a year to set one up ?
Because they are a shit government.
To be fair they are the only government to have opened up their communications in this way.
It is part of much wider overhaul being undertaken - the cornerstone of which is the televising of the press briefings which will now allow an unfiltered account of what they are up to .
The inomy of daily briefings from a pm who hasn't answered a single question in the last 12 months is almost too rich.
Are they still going to try to ban anyone to critical?
Ask yourself this, would you rather read about what the government has briefed the press on, filtered and adjusted by your preferred choice publication, or be able to see and hear exactly what they have said?
The daily press briefing has always been a thing, and should not be confused with the current covid briefings we have been receiving.
The difference going forward will be the live access we will have to what goes on behind previously closed doors.
You shouldn't be complaining about it, welcome it with open arms - no longer will you need to google and link Guardian stories and face a barrage of replies bemoaning your bias. There will be clips and direct quotes that prove exactly what the government action is for all manner of policy and announcements
I'm not complaining at all..but I thought he had hired a spokesmen so he doesnt have to even pretend at answering questions now?
Ok, thats on record - you are not complaining about it
Give Lionel a chance, I'm sure there with be loads of things that Lionel will be moaning about.
Most of it will have nothing whatsoever to be about what the original post was about though! "
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"I would rather the government had what they need to deliver effective briefings in times of crisis. This pandemic has highlighted that.
Why have they waited a year to set one up ?
Because they are a shit government.
To be fair they are the only government to have opened up their communications in this way.
It is part of much wider overhaul being undertaken - the cornerstone of which is the televising of the press briefings which will now allow an unfiltered account of what they are up to .
The inomy of daily briefings from a pm who hasn't answered a single question in the last 12 months is almost too rich.
Are they still going to try to ban anyone to critical?
Ask yourself this, would you rather read about what the government has briefed the press on, filtered and adjusted by your preferred choice publication, or be able to see and hear exactly what they have said?
The daily press briefing has always been a thing, and should not be confused with the current covid briefings we have been receiving.
The difference going forward will be the live access we will have to what goes on behind previously closed doors.
You shouldn't be complaining about it, welcome it with open arms - no longer will you need to google and link Guardian stories and face a barrage of replies bemoaning your bias. There will be clips and direct quotes that prove exactly what the government action is for all manner of policy and announcements
I'm not complaining at all..but I thought he had hired a spokesmen so he doesnt have to even pretend at answering questions now?
Ok, thats on record - you are not complaining about it
Give Lionel a chance, I'm sure there with be loads of things that Lionel will be moaning about.
Most of it will have nothing whatsoever to be about what the original post was about though! "
Can you do us a favour?
Could you go and obsess over someone else please?
Its freaking me out a bit if in honest and you are really not my type.
There are plenty other people on here.
Asking nicely
Cheers
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"I would rather the government had what they need to deliver effective briefings in times of crisis. This pandemic has highlighted that.
Why have they waited a year to set one up ?
Because they are a shit government.
To be fair they are the only government to have opened up their communications in this way.
It is part of much wider overhaul being undertaken - the cornerstone of which is the televising of the press briefings which will now allow an unfiltered account of what they are up to .
The inomy of daily briefings from a pm who hasn't answered a single question in the last 12 months is almost too rich.
Are they still going to try to ban anyone to critical?
Ask yourself this, would you rather read about what the government has briefed the press on, filtered and adjusted by your preferred choice publication, or be able to see and hear exactly what they have said?
The daily press briefing has always been a thing, and should not be confused with the current covid briefings we have been receiving.
The difference going forward will be the live access we will have to what goes on behind previously closed doors.
You shouldn't be complaining about it, welcome it with open arms - no longer will you need to google and link Guardian stories and face a barrage of replies bemoaning your bias. There will be clips and direct quotes that prove exactly what the government action is for all manner of policy and announcements
I'm not complaining at all..but I thought he had hired a spokesmen so he doesnt have to even pretend at answering questions now?
Ok, thats on record - you are not complaining about it
Give Lionel a chance, I'm sure there with be loads of things that Lionel will be moaning about.
Most of it will have nothing whatsoever to be about what the original post was about though!
Can you do us a favour?
Could you go and obsess over someone else please?
Its freaking me out a bit if in honest and you are really not my type.
There are plenty other people on here.
Asking nicely
Cheers
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Fair point don't want to freak you out!
But please do us all a favour.
When asked a question please give an answer and not another question.
Stop saying the Conservatives have been in Government since 2010. That was a Coalition Government.
And please think about what you are posting before you post it.
Hash tag one worders are really becoming annoying. |
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"I would rather the government had what they need to deliver effective briefings in times of crisis. This pandemic has highlighted that.
Why have they waited a year to set one up ?
Because they are a shit government.
To be fair they are the only government to have opened up their communications in this way.
It is part of much wider overhaul being undertaken - the cornerstone of which is the televising of the press briefings which will now allow an unfiltered account of what they are up to .
The inomy of daily briefings from a pm who hasn't answered a single question in the last 12 months is almost too rich.
Are they still going to try to ban anyone to critical?
Ask yourself this, would you rather read about what the government has briefed the press on, filtered and adjusted by your preferred choice publication, or be able to see and hear exactly what they have said?
The daily press briefing has always been a thing, and should not be confused with the current covid briefings we have been receiving.
The difference going forward will be the live access we will have to what goes on behind previously closed doors.
You shouldn't be complaining about it, welcome it with open arms - no longer will you need to google and link Guardian stories and face a barrage of replies bemoaning your bias. There will be clips and direct quotes that prove exactly what the government action is for all manner of policy and announcements
I'm not complaining at all..but I thought he had hired a spokesmen so he doesnt have to even pretend at answering questions now?
Ok, thats on record - you are not complaining about it
Give Lionel a chance, I'm sure there with be loads of things that Lionel will be moaning about.
Most of it will have nothing whatsoever to be about what the original post was about though!
Can you do us a favour?
Could you go and obsess over someone else please?
Its freaking me out a bit if in honest and you are really not my type.
There are plenty other people on here.
Asking nicely
Cheers
Fair point don't want to freak you out!
But please do us all a favour.
When asked a question please give an answer and not another question.
Stop saying the Conservatives have been in Government since 2010. That was a Coalition Government.
And please think about what you are posting before you post it.
Hash tag one worders are really becoming annoying."
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