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Brexit UK fisherman

By *rench letter OP Couple over a year ago

Chorley,

Brexit UK fisherman fear losing their homes as the Export ban on shellfish etc they have lost 99% of there business since the 1st of Jan. Am sure they would not have voted for Brexit if they had known this as were promised the earth by Boris and his bunch of clowns.

Brexit is certainly beneficial NOT. Plus the port on Holyhead as lost 50% of its trade another Brexit Bonus.

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By *ackal1Couple over a year ago

Manchester

Wait until people start complaining at the ever increasing costs to ship to Ireland through Holyhead .

The Irish truckers are bypassing the U.K. in bigger and bigger numbers. The few that are left will have a field day once the paperwork shambles on Brexit is dealt with.

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By *ethnmelvCouple over a year ago

Cardiff

"Brexit UK fisherman fear losing their homes as the Export ban on shellfish etc they have lost 99% of there business since the 1st of Jan. Am sure they would not have voted for Brexit if they had known this as were promised the earth by Boris and his bunch of clowns.

Brexit is certainly beneficial NOT. Plus the port on Holyhead as lost 50% of its trade another Brexit Bonus. "

Guess wgo was the UK MEP on the Fisheries Commision when the rules were agreed in 2008...

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By *ebjonnsonMan over a year ago

Maldon

I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish? "

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

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By *ovebjsMan over a year ago

Bristol

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export."

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

There are plants in the UK but apparently not enough. I don't know a great deal about it tbh.

To me, it seems like it's easier to blame someone else than invest in the equipment to make it work. Obviously, it takes time to get these things up and running though, so short term there will always be a hit.

I've said from the start, adapt and overcome. It's what business does.

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By *ackal1Couple over a year ago

Manchester

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

There are plants in the UK but apparently not enough. I don't know a great deal about it tbh.

I've said from the start, adapt and overcome. It's what business does."

If they don’t go out of business first due to lack of sales.

So where was the detail on this in the oven ready deal?

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By *ild_oatsMan over a year ago

the land of saints & sinners

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

Amazon appear to be out of stock of purification shellfish farms.....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

There are plants in the UK but apparently not enough. I don't know a great deal about it tbh.

I've said from the start, adapt and overcome. It's what business does.

If they don’t go out of business first due to lack of sales.

So where was the detail on this in the oven ready deal? "

You may have missed the part where I said there will be a short term hit.

I don't know a great deal about the fishing industry. I stand by my thoughts that businesses adapt. They also come and go for a wide variety of reasons.

I'm not saying Brexit won't be the reason some businesses go under but judging by some on here, it seems like it's the only reason a business has ever struggled.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

There are plants in the UK but apparently not enough. I don't know a great deal about it tbh.

I've said from the start, adapt and overcome. It's what business does.

If they don’t go out of business first due to lack of sales.

So where was the detail on this in the oven ready deal?

You may have missed the part where I said there will be a short term hit.

I don't know a great deal about the fishing industry. I stand by my thoughts that businesses adapt. They also come and go for a wide variety of reasons.

I'm not saying Brexit won't be the reason some businesses go under but judging by some on here, it seems like it's the only reason a business has ever struggled."

The fishing industry was supposed to be one of the main beneficiaries of Brexit and the fact that they are now struggling is scandalous . Farage should be ashamed

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

if the government managed the waters correctly then there would be no problem requiring uv plants to kill off the levels of e-coli.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

There are plants in the UK but apparently not enough. I don't know a great deal about it tbh.

I've said from the start, adapt and overcome. It's what business does.

If they don’t go out of business first due to lack of sales.

So where was the detail on this in the oven ready deal?

You may have missed the part where I said there will be a short term hit.

I don't know a great deal about the fishing industry. I stand by my thoughts that businesses adapt. They also come and go for a wide variety of reasons.

I'm not saying Brexit won't be the reason some businesses go under but judging by some on here, it seems like it's the only reason a business has ever struggled.

The fishing industry was supposed to be one of the main beneficiaries of Brexit and the fact that they are now struggling is scandalous . Farage should be ashamed "

Taking back control of our waters?

As it turns out we now have a bigger portion of those waters and will increase over time. So, isn't that taking back control. The export issue is a separate issue.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"if the government managed the waters correctly then there would be no problem requiring uv plants to kill off the levels of e-coli."

You can lay that claim to all governments then

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

There are plants in the UK but apparently not enough. I don't know a great deal about it tbh.

I've said from the start, adapt and overcome. It's what business does.

If they don’t go out of business first due to lack of sales.

So where was the detail on this in the oven ready deal?

You may have missed the part where I said there will be a short term hit.

I don't know a great deal about the fishing industry. I stand by my thoughts that businesses adapt. They also come and go for a wide variety of reasons.

I'm not saying Brexit won't be the reason some businesses go under but judging by some on here, it seems like it's the only reason a business has ever struggled.

The fishing industry was supposed to be one of the main beneficiaries of Brexit and the fact that they are now struggling is scandalous . Farage should be ashamed

Taking back control of our waters?

As it turns out we now have a bigger portion of those waters and will increase over time. So, isn't that taking back control. The export issue is a separate issue."

The export ‘issue’ is because of Brexit. If you don’t believe me have a read what the fishing industry union is saying

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

There are plants in the UK but apparently not enough. I don't know a great deal about it tbh.

I've said from the start, adapt and overcome. It's what business does.

If they don’t go out of business first due to lack of sales.

So where was the detail on this in the oven ready deal?

You may have missed the part where I said there will be a short term hit.

I don't know a great deal about the fishing industry. I stand by my thoughts that businesses adapt. They also come and go for a wide variety of reasons.

I'm not saying Brexit won't be the reason some businesses go under but judging by some on here, it seems like it's the only reason a business has ever struggled.

The fishing industry was supposed to be one of the main beneficiaries of Brexit and the fact that they are now struggling is scandalous . Farage should be ashamed

Taking back control of our waters?

As it turns out we now have a bigger portion of those waters and will increase over time. So, isn't that taking back control. The export issue is a separate issue.

The export ‘issue’ is because of Brexit. If you don’t believe me have a read what the fishing industry union is saying "

I didn't say it wasn't because of Brexit. It's a separate issue to taking back control though. Both to do with Brexit but separate issues.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

There are plants in the UK but apparently not enough. I don't know a great deal about it tbh.

I've said from the start, adapt and overcome. It's what business does.

If they don’t go out of business first due to lack of sales.

So where was the detail on this in the oven ready deal?

You may have missed the part where I said there will be a short term hit.

I don't know a great deal about the fishing industry. I stand by my thoughts that businesses adapt. They also come and go for a wide variety of reasons.

I'm not saying Brexit won't be the reason some businesses go under but judging by some on here, it seems like it's the only reason a business has ever struggled.

The fishing industry was supposed to be one of the main beneficiaries of Brexit and the fact that they are now struggling is scandalous . Farage should be ashamed "

Anyone who thought Farage gave a fuck about the fishing industry needs to pause and think.

As we all know he showed up out of 42 fisheries committee meetings that he was assigned to.

And now the brexit effect on the industry.

Farage works exclusively in the interests of his sponsors, funders and masters.

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By *d4fun73Man over a year ago

Shipley

The main reason is the export documents that are needed. All this was foreseeable but they and the farmers all voted for it!

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS over a year ago

Stockport

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

Apparently also once the purification process is done, the shellfish go off quicker. So there was a bit more time available to get them to the dinner table in europe when the purification was being done after transport across the channel. The new rules after brexit give the double whammy effect of the treated shellfish going bad sooner, and the transport holdups causing it to take longer to deliver to the continent. Shellfish that start to stink before they reach the table have got zero value.

Another brexit win - a bigger share of fishing that just gives us a product that goes rotten before it can be sold.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

There are plants in the UK but apparently not enough. I don't know a great deal about it tbh.

I've said from the start, adapt and overcome. It's what business does.

If they don’t go out of business first due to lack of sales.

So where was the detail on this in the oven ready deal?

You may have missed the part where I said there will be a short term hit.

I don't know a great deal about the fishing industry. I stand by my thoughts that businesses adapt. They also come and go for a wide variety of reasons.

I'm not saying Brexit won't be the reason some businesses go under but judging by some on here, it seems like it's the only reason a business has ever struggled.

The fishing industry was supposed to be one of the main beneficiaries of Brexit and the fact that they are now struggling is scandalous . Farage should be ashamed

Anyone who thought Farage gave a fuck about the fishing industry needs to pause and think.

As we all know he showed up out of 42 fisheries committee meetings that he was assigned to.

And now the brexit effect on the industry.

Farage works exclusively in the interests of his sponsors, funders and masters."

I know that, you know that, but unfortunately many believed in his bullshit

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By *ovebjsMan over a year ago

Bristol

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

Another brexit win - a bigger share of fishing that just gives us a product that goes rotten before it can be sold."

Ah right that’s something I did not know about the timeline between flushing and freshness

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By *ackal1Couple over a year ago

Manchester

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

There are plants in the UK but apparently not enough. I don't know a great deal about it tbh.

I've said from the start, adapt and overcome. It's what business does.

If they don’t go out of business first due to lack of sales.

So where was the detail on this in the oven ready deal?

You may have missed the part where I said there will be a short term hit.

I don't know a great deal about the fishing industry. I stand by my thoughts that businesses adapt. They also come and go for a wide variety of reasons.

I'm not saying Brexit won't be the reason some businesses go under but judging by some on here, it seems like it's the only reason a business has ever struggled."

Short term hit is a dismissive statement if it’s you going out of business don’t you think?

Business fail all the time but not usually due to increased legislation and government imposed rules and processes.

The fishermen regarding shellfish here are mostly small scale. ( not all) They won’t have financial reserves to survive. Small scale family business rarely do. It’s a lifestyle business in many cases.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

There are plants in the UK but apparently not enough. I don't know a great deal about it tbh.

I've said from the start, adapt and overcome. It's what business does.

If they don’t go out of business first due to lack of sales.

So where was the detail on this in the oven ready deal?

You may have missed the part where I said there will be a short term hit.

I don't know a great deal about the fishing industry. I stand by my thoughts that businesses adapt. They also come and go for a wide variety of reasons.

I'm not saying Brexit won't be the reason some businesses go under but judging by some on here, it seems like it's the only reason a business has ever struggled.

Short term hit is a dismissive statement if it’s you going out of business don’t you think?

Business fail all the time but not usually due to increased legislation and government imposed rules and processes.

A short term hit to the industry as a whole. I've already agreed that some businesses may go under. As sad as that is, it's life. Businesses go under every day.

I've had this discussion on here before about industry and regs. Regs constantly change and some businesses can't adapt. They go under and no one even knows, or cares.

This is only a discussion because of Brexit.

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By *ackal1Couple over a year ago

Manchester

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

There are plants in the UK but apparently not enough. I don't know a great deal about it tbh.

I've said from the start, adapt and overcome. It's what business does.

If they don’t go out of business first due to lack of sales.

So where was the detail on this in the oven ready deal?

You may have missed the part where I said there will be a short term hit.

I don't know a great deal about the fishing industry. I stand by my thoughts that businesses adapt. They also come and go for a wide variety of reasons.

I'm not saying Brexit won't be the reason some businesses go under but judging by some on here, it seems like it's the only reason a business has ever struggled.

The fishing industry was supposed to be one of the main beneficiaries of Brexit and the fact that they are now struggling is scandalous . Farage should be ashamed

Anyone who thought Farage gave a fuck about the fishing industry needs to pause and think.

As we all know he showed up out of 42 fisheries committee meetings that he was assigned to.

And now the brexit effect on the industry.

Farage works exclusively in the interests of his sponsors, funders and masters."

I read through Farage’s record at the EU . When you see what he was doing it’s just shocking. He was being paid look after our interests for years but all he did was complain about absolutely everything like petulant child. He made not one effort to work for the best interests of the U.K.

he was joined by his supporters taking advantage of people’s apathy in voting for MEPs.

He wasted years of membership at our expense and just took his feed at the trough.

The only time he made a statement longer than a four line paragraph was to complain about sea angling which he likes to do.

Not sea fishing or fishermen just rod and line angling.

That guy is a disgrace. How did he get so much support?

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By *ackal1Couple over a year ago

Manchester

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

There are plants in the UK but apparently not enough. I don't know a great deal about it tbh.

I've said from the start, adapt and overcome. It's what business does.

If they don’t go out of business first due to lack of sales.

So where was the detail on this in the oven ready deal?

You may have missed the part where I said there will be a short term hit.

I don't know a great deal about the fishing industry. I stand by my thoughts that businesses adapt. They also come and go for a wide variety of reasons.

I'm not saying Brexit won't be the reason some businesses go under but judging by some on here, it seems like it's the only reason a business has ever struggled.

Short term hit is a dismissive statement if it’s you going out of business don’t you think?

Business fail all the time but not usually due to increased legislation and government imposed rules and processes.

A short term hit to the industry as a whole. I've already agreed that some businesses may go under. As sad as that is, it's life. Businesses go under every day.

I've had this discussion on here before about industry and regs. Regs constantly change and some businesses can't adapt. They go under and no one even knows, or cares.

This is only a discussion because of Brexit."

Rules usually are warned of and noted with lots of notice usually a year. Rules are also for safety or to better society.

These rules weren’t even mentioned never mind warned of. Also where is the benefit to society in the fisherman’s rule changes?

It’s not the same in any way.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

There are plants in the UK but apparently not enough. I don't know a great deal about it tbh.

I've said from the start, adapt and overcome. It's what business does.

If they don’t go out of business first due to lack of sales.

So where was the detail on this in the oven ready deal?

You may have missed the part where I said there will be a short term hit.

I don't know a great deal about the fishing industry. I stand by my thoughts that businesses adapt. They also come and go for a wide variety of reasons.

I'm not saying Brexit won't be the reason some businesses go under but judging by some on here, it seems like it's the only reason a business has ever struggled.

Short term hit is a dismissive statement if it’s you going out of business don’t you think?

Business fail all the time but not usually due to increased legislation and government imposed rules and processes.

A short term hit to the industry as a whole. I've already agreed that some businesses may go under. As sad as that is, it's life. Businesses go under every day.

I've had this discussion on here before about industry and regs. Regs constantly change and some businesses can't adapt. They go under and no one even knows, or cares.

This is only a discussion because of Brexit."

That is because the cause of the disruptive changes was Brexit, something the fishing industry voted for because they were made promises that turned out to be lies .

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

So who on here is eating more shellfish to help the fishermen through this period?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So who on here is eating more shellfish to help the fishermen through this period?"

I know one who regularly chows down on lobster.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

There are plants in the UK but apparently not enough. I don't know a great deal about it tbh.

I've said from the start, adapt and overcome. It's what business does.

If they don’t go out of business first due to lack of sales.

So where was the detail on this in the oven ready deal?

You may have missed the part where I said there will be a short term hit.

I don't know a great deal about the fishing industry. I stand by my thoughts that businesses adapt. They also come and go for a wide variety of reasons.

I'm not saying Brexit won't be the reason some businesses go under but judging by some on here, it seems like it's the only reason a business has ever struggled.

Short term hit is a dismissive statement if it’s you going out of business don’t you think?

Business fail all the time but not usually due to increased legislation and government imposed rules and processes.

A short term hit to the industry as a whole. I've already agreed that some businesses may go under. As sad as that is, it's life. Businesses go under every day.

I've had this discussion on here before about industry and regs. Regs constantly change and some businesses can't adapt. They go under and no one even knows, or cares.

This is only a discussion because of Brexit.

Rules usually are warned of and noted with lots of notice usually a year. Rules are also for safety or to better society.

These rules weren’t even mentioned never mind warned of. Also where is the benefit to society in the fisherman’s rule changes?

It’s not the same in any way. "

It that old 'prepare for the worst' argument again.

The fishing industry knew of the EU regs regards importing fisheries to their bloc. Why they thought we could get some kind of special deal is beyond me, especially as we got closer and closer to no deal.

Why didn't they prepare. You can argue all you like about not having time, but everyone could foresee what would happen without a trade deal so why not prepare for it?

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

There are plants in the UK but apparently not enough. I don't know a great deal about it tbh.

I've said from the start, adapt and overcome. It's what business does.

If they don’t go out of business first due to lack of sales.

So where was the detail on this in the oven ready deal?

You may have missed the part where I said there will be a short term hit.

I don't know a great deal about the fishing industry. I stand by my thoughts that businesses adapt. They also come and go for a wide variety of reasons.

I'm not saying Brexit won't be the reason some businesses go under but judging by some on here, it seems like it's the only reason a business has ever struggled.

The fishing industry was supposed to be one of the main beneficiaries of Brexit and the fact that they are now struggling is scandalous . Farage should be ashamed

Anyone who thought Farage gave a fuck about the fishing industry needs to pause and think.

As we all know he showed up out of 42 fisheries committee meetings that he was assigned to.

And now the brexit effect on the industry.

Farage works exclusively in the interests of his sponsors, funders and masters.

he was joined by his supporters taking advantage of people’s apathy in voting for MEPs.

He wasted years of membership at our expense and just took his feed at the trough.

The only time he made a statement longer than a four line paragraph was to complain about sea angling which he likes to do.

Not sea fishing or fishermen just rod and line angling.

That guy is a disgrace. How did he get so much support? "

Because he is just a normal fella who likes a pint in the boozer.

Get onto his appearance with trump.

He is the david Brent of politics

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

There are plants in the UK but apparently not enough. I don't know a great deal about it tbh.

I've said from the start, adapt and overcome. It's what business does.

If they don’t go out of business first due to lack of sales.

So where was the detail on this in the oven ready deal?

You may have missed the part where I said there will be a short term hit.

I don't know a great deal about the fishing industry. I stand by my thoughts that businesses adapt. They also come and go for a wide variety of reasons.

I'm not saying Brexit won't be the reason some businesses go under but judging by some on here, it seems like it's the only reason a business has ever struggled.

The fishing industry was supposed to be one of the main beneficiaries of Brexit and the fact that they are now struggling is scandalous . Farage should be ashamed

Anyone who thought Farage gave a fuck about the fishing industry needs to pause and think.

As we all know he showed up out of 42 fisheries committee meetings that he was assigned to.

And now the brexit effect on the industry.

Farage works exclusively in the interests of his sponsors, funders and masters.

he was joined by his supporters taking advantage of people’s apathy in voting for MEPs.

He wasted years of membership at our expense and just took his feed at the trough.

The only time he made a statement longer than a four line paragraph was to complain about sea angling which he likes to do.

Not sea fishing or fishermen just rod and line angling.

That guy is a disgrace. How did he get so much support?

Because he is just a normal fella who likes a pint in the boozer.

Get onto his appearance with trump.

He is the david Brent of politics

Have a look on Farage's Twitter today for some top notch comedy. I predict.

A. You'll never be able to guess what he's announced.

B. It will make you laugh.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

prepare for a wrose case scenario? worse case scenario is going out of business. what a ridiculous suggestion.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"prepare for a wrose case scenario? worse case scenario is going out of business. what a ridiculous suggestion."

They did warn people to prepare for a worst case scenario. Then people voted for said scenario.

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By *untwolancashireCouple over a year ago

Preston

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

There are plants in the UK but apparently not enough. I don't know a great deal about it tbh.

I've said from the start, adapt and overcome. It's what business does.

If they don’t go out of business first due to lack of sales.

So where was the detail on this in the oven ready deal?

You may have missed the part where I said there will be a short term hit.

I don't know a great deal about the fishing industry. I stand by my thoughts that businesses adapt. They also come and go for a wide variety of reasons.

I'm not saying Brexit won't be the reason some businesses go under but judging by some on here, it seems like it's the only reason a business has ever struggled.

The fishing industry was supposed to be one of the main beneficiaries of Brexit and the fact that they are now struggling is scandalous . Farage should be ashamed

Anyone who thought Farage gave a fuck about the fishing industry needs to pause and think.

As we all know he showed up out of 42 fisheries committee meetings that he was assigned to.

And now the brexit effect on the industry.

Farage works exclusively in the interests of his sponsors, funders and masters.

he was joined by his supporters taking advantage of people’s apathy in voting for MEPs.

He wasted years of membership at our expense and just took his feed at the trough.

The only time he made a statement longer than a four line paragraph was to complain about sea angling which he likes to do.

Not sea fishing or fishermen just rod and line angling.

That guy is a disgrace. How did he get so much support?

Because he is just a normal fella who likes a pint in the boozer.

Get onto his appearance with trump.

He is the david Brent of politics

Have a look on Farage's Twitter today for some top notch comedy. I predict.

A. You'll never be able to guess what he's announced.

B. It will make you laugh."

I will take your word for it pal, I don’t have time for twatter, or the twatty faced weasel either x

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

"So who on here is eating more shellfish to help the fishermen through this period?

I know one who regularly chows down on lobster. "
They don't count its only bivalve molluscs that are affected they are still accepted by the eu.I mean those quaffing champagne and lobster at the tax payers expense are not going to inconvenience themselves are they?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"prepare for a wrose case scenario? worse case scenario is going out of business. what a ridiculous suggestion."

Worst case in terms of no trade deal, but you know what I meant. You just choose to be facetious instead.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So who on here is eating more shellfish to help the fishermen through this period?

I know one who regularly chows down on lobster. They don't count its only bivalve molluscs that are affected they are still accepted by the eu.I mean those quaffing champagne and lobster at the tax payers expense are not going to inconvenience themselves are they?"

So Capt. lobster needs to switch his celebration lobster to different shellfish?

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

"So who on here is eating more shellfish to help the fishermen through this period?

So Capt. lobster needs to switch his celebration lobster to different shellfish?"
Have you been posting all this time and dont know what they accept and what they dont?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

There are plants in the UK but apparently not enough. I don't know a great deal about it tbh.

I've said from the start, adapt and overcome. It's what business does.

If they don’t go out of business first due to lack of sales.

So where was the detail on this in the oven ready deal?

You may have missed the part where I said there will be a short term hit.

I don't know a great deal about the fishing industry. I stand by my thoughts that businesses adapt. They also come and go for a wide variety of reasons.

I'm not saying Brexit won't be the reason some businesses go under but judging by some on here, it seems like it's the only reason a business has ever struggled.

The fishing industry was supposed to be one of the main beneficiaries of Brexit and the fact that they are now struggling is scandalous . Farage should be ashamed

Anyone who thought Farage gave a fuck about the fishing industry needs to pause and think.

As we all know he showed up out of 42 fisheries committee meetings that he was assigned to.

And now the brexit effect on the industry.

Farage works exclusively in the interests of his sponsors, funders and masters.

he was joined by his supporters taking advantage of people’s apathy in voting for MEPs.

He wasted years of membership at our expense and just took his feed at the trough.

The only time he made a statement longer than a four line paragraph was to complain about sea angling which he likes to do.

Not sea fishing or fishermen just rod and line angling.

That guy is a disgrace. How did he get so much support?

Because he is just a normal fella who likes a pint in the boozer.

Get onto his appearance with trump.

He is the david Brent of politics

Have a look on Farage's Twitter today for some top notch comedy. I predict.

A. You'll never be able to guess what he's announced.

B. It will make you laugh."

He is now blaming everything on China?

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By *ackal1Couple over a year ago

Manchester

"So who on here is eating more shellfish to help the fishermen through this period?

I know one who regularly chows down on lobster. "

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

There are plants in the UK but apparently not enough. I don't know a great deal about it tbh.

I've said from the start, adapt and overcome. It's what business does.

If they don’t go out of business first due to lack of sales.

So where was the detail on this in the oven ready deal?

You may have missed the part where I said there will be a short term hit.

I don't know a great deal about the fishing industry. I stand by my thoughts that businesses adapt. They also come and go for a wide variety of reasons.

I'm not saying Brexit won't be the reason some businesses go under but judging by some on here, it seems like it's the only reason a business has ever struggled.

The fishing industry was supposed to be one of the main beneficiaries of Brexit and the fact that they are now struggling is scandalous . Farage should be ashamed

Anyone who thought Farage gave a fuck about the fishing industry needs to pause and think.

As we all know he showed up out of 42 fisheries committee meetings that he was assigned to.

And now the brexit effect on the industry.

Farage works exclusively in the interests of his sponsors, funders and masters.

he was joined by his supporters taking advantage of people’s apathy in voting for MEPs.

He wasted years of membership at our expense and just took his feed at the trough.

The only time he made a statement longer than a four line paragraph was to complain about sea angling which he likes to do.

Not sea fishing or fishermen just rod and line angling.

That guy is a disgrace. How did he get so much support?

Because he is just a normal fella who likes a pint in the boozer.

Get onto his appearance with trump.

He is the david Brent of politics

Have a look on Farage's Twitter today for some top notch comedy. I predict.

A. You'll never be able to guess what he's announced.

B. It will make you laugh.

He is now blaming everything on China? "

Yep the communists are taking over our schools

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

There are plants in the UK but apparently not enough. I don't know a great deal about it tbh.

I've said from the start, adapt and overcome. It's what business does.

If they don’t go out of business first due to lack of sales.

So where was the detail on this in the oven ready deal?

You may have missed the part where I said there will be a short term hit.

I don't know a great deal about the fishing industry. I stand by my thoughts that businesses adapt. They also come and go for a wide variety of reasons.

I'm not saying Brexit won't be the reason some businesses go under but judging by some on here, it seems like it's the only reason a business has ever struggled.

The fishing industry was supposed to be one of the main beneficiaries of Brexit and the fact that they are now struggling is scandalous . Farage should be ashamed

Anyone who thought Farage gave a fuck about the fishing industry needs to pause and think.

As we all know he showed up out of 42 fisheries committee meetings that he was assigned to.

And now the brexit effect on the industry.

Farage works exclusively in the interests of his sponsors, funders and masters.

he was joined by his supporters taking advantage of people’s apathy in voting for MEPs.

He wasted years of membership at our expense and just took his feed at the trough.

The only time he made a statement longer than a four line paragraph was to complain about sea angling which he likes to do.

Not sea fishing or fishermen just rod and line angling.

That guy is a disgrace. How did he get so much support?

Because he is just a normal fella who likes a pint in the boozer.

Get onto his appearance with trump.

He is the david Brent of politics

Have a look on Farage's Twitter today for some top notch comedy. I predict.

A. You'll never be able to guess what he's announced.

B. It will make you laugh.

He is now blaming everything on China? "
Why has the post turned to farage ? i dont remember him having any say in the negotiations.Not a fan of him myself but i cant see how he has any input into any agreement.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So who on here is eating more shellfish to help the fishermen through this period?

So Capt. lobster needs to switch his celebration lobster to different shellfish?Have you been posting all this time and dont know what they accept and what they dont?

What Capt Lobster?

All I know is, he likes to eat lobster.

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

"So who on here is eating more shellfish to help the fishermen through this period?

So Capt. lobster needs to switch his celebration lobster to different shellfish?Have you been posting all this time and dont know what they accept and what they dont?

What Capt Lobster?

All I know is, he likes to eat lobster. "
I take that as a no then i guessed so.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So who on here is eating more shellfish to help the fishermen through this period?

So Capt. lobster needs to switch his celebration lobster to different shellfish?Have you been posting all this time and dont know what they accept and what they dont?

What Capt Lobster?

All I know is, he likes to eat lobster. I take that as a no then i guessed so.

I don't know what point you're trying to make.

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By *ackal1Couple over a year ago

Manchester

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

There are plants in the UK but apparently not enough. I don't know a great deal about it tbh.

I've said from the start, adapt and overcome. It's what business does.

If they don’t go out of business first due to lack of sales.

So where was the detail on this in the oven ready deal?

You may have missed the part where I said there will be a short term hit.

I don't know a great deal about the fishing industry. I stand by my thoughts that businesses adapt. They also come and go for a wide variety of reasons.

I'm not saying Brexit won't be the reason some businesses go under but judging by some on here, it seems like it's the only reason a business has ever struggled.

The fishing industry was supposed to be one of the main beneficiaries of Brexit and the fact that they are now struggling is scandalous . Farage should be ashamed

Anyone who thought Farage gave a fuck about the fishing industry needs to pause and think.

As we all know he showed up out of 42 fisheries committee meetings that he was assigned to.

And now the brexit effect on the industry.

Farage works exclusively in the interests of his sponsors, funders and masters.

he was joined by his supporters taking advantage of people’s apathy in voting for MEPs.

He wasted years of membership at our expense and just took his feed at the trough.

The only time he made a statement longer than a four line paragraph was to complain about sea angling which he likes to do.

Not sea fishing or fishermen just rod and line angling.

That guy is a disgrace. How did he get so much support?

Because he is just a normal fella who likes a pint in the boozer.

Get onto his appearance with trump.

He is the david Brent of politics

Have a look on Farage's Twitter today for some top notch comedy. I predict.

A. You'll never be able to guess what he's announced.

B. It will make you laugh.

He is now blaming everything on China? Why has the post turned to farage ? i dont remember him having any say in the negotiations.Not a fan of him myself but i cant see how he has any input into any agreement."

So Farage didn’t lead the charge for Brexit?

That’s like Blair saying don’t blame me for invading Iraq I wasn’t there and didn’t plan it.

Farage’s years of sabotaging our relationship with the EU helped bring us to this mess.

To then look away whistling while the fishermen go bust is not allowed.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

There are plants in the UK but apparently not enough. I don't know a great deal about it tbh.

I've said from the start, adapt and overcome. It's what business does.

If they don’t go out of business first due to lack of sales.

So where was the detail on this in the oven ready deal?

You may have missed the part where I said there will be a short term hit.

I don't know a great deal about the fishing industry. I stand by my thoughts that businesses adapt. They also come and go for a wide variety of reasons.

I'm not saying Brexit won't be the reason some businesses go under but judging by some on here, it seems like it's the only reason a business has ever struggled.

The fishing industry was supposed to be one of the main beneficiaries of Brexit and the fact that they are now struggling is scandalous . Farage should be ashamed

Anyone who thought Farage gave a fuck about the fishing industry needs to pause and think.

As we all know he showed up out of 42 fisheries committee meetings that he was assigned to.

And now the brexit effect on the industry.

Farage works exclusively in the interests of his sponsors, funders and masters.

he was joined by his supporters taking advantage of people’s apathy in voting for MEPs.

He wasted years of membership at our expense and just took his feed at the trough.

The only time he made a statement longer than a four line paragraph was to complain about sea angling which he likes to do.

Not sea fishing or fishermen just rod and line angling.

That guy is a disgrace. How did he get so much support?

Because he is just a normal fella who likes a pint in the boozer.

Get onto his appearance with trump.

He is the david Brent of politics

Have a look on Farage's Twitter today for some top notch comedy. I predict.

A. You'll never be able to guess what he's announced.

B. It will make you laugh.

He was a member of the EUs fishing committee, he attended only 1 out of 42 meetings . He is a cunt

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

Is he still going to the coast with his binoculars?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Is he still going to the coast with his binoculars?"

Yeah, he waves his fists at the passing boats, the sad cunt

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

There are plants in the UK but apparently not enough. I don't know a great deal about it tbh.

I've said from the start, adapt and overcome. It's what business does.

If they don’t go out of business first due to lack of sales.

So where was the detail on this in the oven ready deal?

You may have missed the part where I said there will be a short term hit.

I don't know a great deal about the fishing industry. I stand by my thoughts that businesses adapt. They also come and go for a wide variety of reasons.

I'm not saying Brexit won't be the reason some businesses go under but judging by some on here, it seems like it's the only reason a business has ever struggled.

The fishing industry was supposed to be one of the main beneficiaries of Brexit and the fact that they are now struggling is scandalous . Farage should be ashamed

Anyone who thought Farage gave a fuck about the fishing industry needs to pause and think.

As we all know he showed up out of 42 fisheries committee meetings that he was assigned to.

And now the brexit effect on the industry.

Farage works exclusively in the interests of his sponsors, funders and masters.

he was joined by his supporters taking advantage of people’s apathy in voting for MEPs.

He wasted years of membership at our expense and just took his feed at the trough.

The only time he made a statement longer than a four line paragraph was to complain about sea angling which he likes to do.

Not sea fishing or fishermen just rod and line angling.

That guy is a disgrace. How did he get so much support?

Because he is just a normal fella who likes a pint in the boozer.

Get onto his appearance with trump.

He is the david Brent of politics

Have a look on Farage's Twitter today for some top notch comedy. I predict.

A. You'll never be able to guess what he's announced.

B. It will make you laugh.

So Farage didn’t lead the charge for Brexit?

That’s like Blair saying don’t blame me for invading Iraq I wasn’t there and didn’t plan it.

Farage’s years of sabotaging our relationship with the EU helped bring us to this mess.

To then look away whistling while the fishermen go bust is not allowed.

It's almost like saying Blair didn't campaign for us to leave the EU for years and promise us an EU referendum if he got elected

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By *untwolancashireCouple over a year ago

Preston

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

There are plants in the UK but apparently not enough. I don't know a great deal about it tbh.

I've said from the start, adapt and overcome. It's what business does.

If they don’t go out of business first due to lack of sales.

So where was the detail on this in the oven ready deal?

You may have missed the part where I said there will be a short term hit.

I don't know a great deal about the fishing industry. I stand by my thoughts that businesses adapt. They also come and go for a wide variety of reasons.

I'm not saying Brexit won't be the reason some businesses go under but judging by some on here, it seems like it's the only reason a business has ever struggled.

The fishing industry was supposed to be one of the main beneficiaries of Brexit and the fact that they are now struggling is scandalous . Farage should be ashamed

Anyone who thought Farage gave a fuck about the fishing industry needs to pause and think.

As we all know he showed up out of 42 fisheries committee meetings that he was assigned to.

And now the brexit effect on the industry.

Farage works exclusively in the interests of his sponsors, funders and masters.

he was joined by his supporters taking advantage of people’s apathy in voting for MEPs.

He wasted years of membership at our expense and just took his feed at the trough.

The only time he made a statement longer than a four line paragraph was to complain about sea angling which he likes to do.

Not sea fishing or fishermen just rod and line angling.

That guy is a disgrace. How did he get so much support?

Because he is just a normal fella who likes a pint in the boozer.

Get onto his appearance with trump.

He is the david Brent of politics

Have a look on Farage's Twitter today for some top notch comedy. I predict.

A. You'll never be able to guess what he's announced.

B. It will make you laugh.

He is now blaming everything on China? "

Why bother to listen, I don’t believe in cancel culture as you know, but it’s you who listens to his crap, just choose not to listen, then once enough don’t listen to his shit he becomes irrelevant anyway. He has to keep in the limelight somehow, & whilst he is he will spread division, it’s what his type of politics thrives on. & yes there will always be oddballs who believe him but there aren’t that many. But if we keep letting him & others like him under our skin then we as a country can never heal x

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Is he still going to the coast with his binoculars?

Yeah, he waves his fists at the passing boats, the sad cunt

Ha ha..imagine pinning all your faith on him?

Embarassing.

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

There are plants in the UK but apparently not enough. I don't know a great deal about it tbh.

I've said from the start, adapt and overcome. It's what business does.

If they don’t go out of business first due to lack of sales.

So where was the detail on this in the oven ready deal?

You may have missed the part where I said there will be a short term hit.

I don't know a great deal about the fishing industry. I stand by my thoughts that businesses adapt. They also come and go for a wide variety of reasons.

I'm not saying Brexit won't be the reason some businesses go under but judging by some on here, it seems like it's the only reason a business has ever struggled.

The fishing industry was supposed to be one of the main beneficiaries of Brexit and the fact that they are now struggling is scandalous . Farage should be ashamed

Anyone who thought Farage gave a fuck about the fishing industry needs to pause and think.

As we all know he showed up out of 42 fisheries committee meetings that he was assigned to.

And now the brexit effect on the industry.

Farage works exclusively in the interests of his sponsors, funders and masters.

he was joined by his supporters taking advantage of people’s apathy in voting for MEPs.

He wasted years of membership at our expense and just took his feed at the trough.

The only time he made a statement longer than a four line paragraph was to complain about sea angling which he likes to do.

Not sea fishing or fishermen just rod and line angling.

That guy is a disgrace. How did he get so much support?

Because he is just a normal fella who likes a pint in the boozer.

Get onto his appearance with trump.

He is the david Brent of politics

Have a look on Farage's Twitter today for some top notch comedy. I predict.

A. You'll never be able to guess what he's announced.

B. It will make you laugh.

He is now blaming everything on China?

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

The man who was one of the prime movers behind Brexit is now apparently nothing to do with it.

He wont be best pleased.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS over a year ago

Horsham

Surely the shellfish industry knew what would happen after Brexit, didn't they?

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By *oi_LucyCouple over a year ago

Barbados

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

Another brexit win - a bigger share of fishing that just gives us a product that goes rotten before it can be sold.

Ah right that’s something I did not know about the timeline between flushing and freshness

So many times I’ve seen brexiteers make the argument of “why don’t we make/grow/do it here?”. Be it growing grapes or training nurses. If it was “better” (however you want to define that) to make/grow/do whatever it is here in the U.K., then likely we already would. The reason we make/grow/do something over in the EU is because for whatever reason it is “better”. Either is is cheaper, more viable, quicker, etc. So by moving that process here to the U.K. most likely is “less good” in some way. Slower, more expensive, less viable etc.

-Matt

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By *untwolancashireCouple over a year ago

Preston

"The man who was one of the prime movers behind Brexit is now apparently nothing to do with it.

He wont be best pleased."

Yes he was, but the only thing he has to do with it now is what your allowing to go on by paying attention to him. He is no longer a MEP that stopped on the 31st January 2020, he is not an MP in Westminster he is not even a local councillor. He’s an agitator don’t let them divide us anymore, let’s rise above it. X

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

Another brexit win - a bigger share of fishing that just gives us a product that goes rotten before it can be sold.

Ah right that’s something I did not know about the timeline between flushing and freshness

-Matt"

I'm not sure common sense was a prominent feature of the leave campaign.

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By *ust some cock suckerMan over a year ago

Preston

"So who on here is eating more shellfish to help the fishermen through this period?"

No chance

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The man who was one of the prime movers behind Brexit is now apparently nothing to do with it.

He wont be best pleased.

If it wasn’t for Farage Brexit would never have happened, he will tell you that himself

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

Another brexit win - a bigger share of fishing that just gives us a product that goes rotten before it can be sold.

Ah right that’s something I did not know about the timeline between flushing and freshness

-Matt"

Listen, if I want British oranges I will bloody well have British oranges,

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By *or Fox SakeCouple over a year ago

Thornaby

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

There are plants in the UK but apparently not enough. I don't know a great deal about it tbh.

I've said from the start, adapt and overcome. It's what business does.

If they don’t go out of business first due to lack of sales.

So where was the detail on this in the oven ready deal?

You may have missed the part where I said there will be a short term hit.

I don't know a great deal about the fishing industry. I stand by my thoughts that businesses adapt. They also come and go for a wide variety of reasons.

I'm not saying Brexit won't be the reason some businesses go under but judging by some on here, it seems like it's the only reason a business has ever struggled.

Short term hit is a dismissive statement if it’s you going out of business don’t you think?

Business fail all the time but not usually due to increased legislation and government imposed rules and processes.

A short term hit to the industry as a whole. I've already agreed that some businesses may go under. As sad as that is, it's life. Businesses go under every day.

I've had this discussion on here before about industry and regs. Regs constantly change and some businesses can't adapt. They go under and no one even knows, or cares.

This is only a discussion because of Brexit."

can you advise how long the short term hit wil;l last, as every day it goes on, alternative suppliers step in.

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By *or Fox SakeCouple over a year ago

Thornaby

"Surely the shellfish industry knew what would happen after Brexit, didn't they?"

they were, all industries, that this would not end well, howver the "project fear" slogan was bandied about

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

There are plants in the UK but apparently not enough. I don't know a great deal about it tbh.

I've said from the start, adapt and overcome. It's what business does.

If they don’t go out of business first due to lack of sales.

So where was the detail on this in the oven ready deal?

You may have missed the part where I said there will be a short term hit.

I don't know a great deal about the fishing industry. I stand by my thoughts that businesses adapt. They also come and go for a wide variety of reasons.

I'm not saying Brexit won't be the reason some businesses go under but judging by some on here, it seems like it's the only reason a business has ever struggled.

Short term hit is a dismissive statement if it’s you going out of business don’t you think?

Business fail all the time but not usually due to increased legislation and government imposed rules and processes.

A short term hit to the industry as a whole. I've already agreed that some businesses may go under. As sad as that is, it's life. Businesses go under every day.

I've had this discussion on here before about industry and regs. Regs constantly change and some businesses can't adapt. They go under and no one even knows, or cares.

This is only a discussion because of Brexit.

can you advise how long the short term hit wil;l last, as every day it goes on, alternative suppliers step in."

The short term hit will be between 5 & 50 years

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

There are plants in the UK but apparently not enough. I don't know a great deal about it tbh.

I've said from the start, adapt and overcome. It's what business does.

If they don’t go out of business first due to lack of sales.

So where was the detail on this in the oven ready deal?

You may have missed the part where I said there will be a short term hit.

I don't know a great deal about the fishing industry. I stand by my thoughts that businesses adapt. They also come and go for a wide variety of reasons.

I'm not saying Brexit won't be the reason some businesses go under but judging by some on here, it seems like it's the only reason a business has ever struggled.

Short term hit is a dismissive statement if it’s you going out of business don’t you think?

Business fail all the time but not usually due to increased legislation and government imposed rules and processes.

A short term hit to the industry as a whole. I've already agreed that some businesses may go under. As sad as that is, it's life. Businesses go under every day.

I've had this discussion on here before about industry and regs. Regs constantly change and some businesses can't adapt. They go under and no one even knows, or cares.

This is only a discussion because of Brexit.

can you advise how long the short term hit wil;l last, as every day it goes on, alternative suppliers step in."

No. I can't advise. I'm not qualified to.

Where were you all when the fishing industry was losing half of it's force over the last 15 years?

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By *uliaChrisCouple over a year ago

westerham

"So who on here is eating more shellfish to help the fishermen through this period?

So Capt. lobster needs to switch his celebration lobster to different shellfish?"

Lol

I wager ten Greek Drachmas no remainer on this thread has ever eaten a bivalve mollusc or would recognise one if it bit them on the nose.

The trade is absolutely tiny and the only thing the fisherman are being asked to do is not poison people by making them safe for sale.

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By *uliaChrisCouple over a year ago

westerham

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

Another brexit win - a bigger share of fishing that just gives us a product that goes rotten before it can be sold.

Ah right that’s something I did not know about the timeline between flushing and freshness

-Matt"

No, it’s usually because of :

1) Ridiculous taxpayer funded subsidies to inefficient EU producers

2) Ridiculous poverty creating EU tariffs on goods being imported from the rest of the world

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So who on here is eating more shellfish to help the fishermen through this period?

So Capt. lobster needs to switch his celebration lobster to different shellfish?

Lol

I wager ten Greek Drachmas no remainer on this thread has ever eaten a bivalve mollusc or would recognise one if it bit them on the nose.

The trade is absolutely tiny and the only thing the fisherman are being asked to do is not poison people by making them safe for sale."

Greek Drachmas are no longer legal tender, sorry about that Chris , I thought you might have known that

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Surely the shellfish industry knew what would happen after Brexit, didn't they?"

This is the leaver paradox.

"We knew what we voted for".

"We didn't vote for job losses".

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By *uliaChrisCouple over a year ago

westerham

"So who on here is eating more shellfish to help the fishermen through this period?

So Capt. lobster needs to switch his celebration lobster to different shellfish?

Lol

I wager ten Greek Drachmas no remainer on this thread has ever eaten a bivalve mollusc or would recognise one if it bit them on the nose.

The trade is absolutely tiny and the only thing the fisherman are being asked to do is not poison people by making them safe for sale.

Greek Drachmas are no longer legal tender, sorry about that Chris , I thought you might have known that "

I know the Eurozone is collapsing and national currencies are coming back. Bet you another ten Drachma it happens with Greece within two years.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So who on here is eating more shellfish to help the fishermen through this period?

So Capt. lobster needs to switch his celebration lobster to different shellfish?

Lol

I wager ten Greek Drachmas no remainer on this thread has ever eaten a bivalve mollusc or would recognise one if it bit them on the nose.

The trade is absolutely tiny and the only thing the fisherman are being asked to do is not poison people by making them safe for sale.

Greek Drachmas are no longer legal tender, sorry about that Chris , I thought you might have known that

I know the Eurozone is collapsing and national currencies are coming back. Bet you another ten Drachma it happens with Greece within two years."

I will only bet using legal tender, Chris. I thought a man like yourself would have realised that Greece uses the Euro . I am glad I have educated you today

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By *uliaChrisCouple over a year ago

westerham

"So who on here is eating more shellfish to help the fishermen through this period?

So Capt. lobster needs to switch his celebration lobster to different shellfish?

Lol

I wager ten Greek Drachmas no remainer on this thread has ever eaten a bivalve mollusc or would recognise one if it bit them on the nose.

The trade is absolutely tiny and the only thing the fisherman are being asked to do is not poison people by making them safe for sale.

Greek Drachmas are no longer legal tender, sorry about that Chris , I thought you might have known that

I know the Eurozone is collapsing and national currencies are coming back. Bet you another ten Drachma it happens with Greece within two years.

I will only bet using legal tender, Chris. I thought a man like yourself would have realised that Greece uses the Euro . I am glad I have educated you today "

Yet I’ve been bang on with my currency predictions as per previous threads. It’s about credible sources of information.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So who on here is eating more shellfish to help the fishermen through this period?

So Capt. lobster needs to switch his celebration lobster to different shellfish?

Lol

I wager ten Greek Drachmas no remainer on this thread has ever eaten a bivalve mollusc or would recognise one if it bit them on the nose.

The trade is absolutely tiny and the only thing the fisherman are being asked to do is not poison people by making them safe for sale.

Greek Drachmas are no longer legal tender, sorry about that Chris , I thought you might have known that

I know the Eurozone is collapsing and national currencies are coming back. Bet you another ten Drachma it happens with Greece within two years.

I will only bet using legal tender, Chris. I thought a man like yourself would have realised that Greece uses the Euro . I am glad I have educated you today

Yet I’ve been bang on with my currency predictions as per previous threads. It’s about credible sources of information."

What is the value of the pound against the Greek Drachma ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So who on here is eating more shellfish to help the fishermen through this period?

So Capt. lobster needs to switch his celebration lobster to different shellfish?

Lol

I wager ten Greek Drachmas no remainer on this thread has ever eaten a bivalve mollusc or would recognise one if it bit them on the nose.

The trade is absolutely tiny and the only thing the fisherman are being asked to do is not poison people by making them safe for sale.

Greek Drachmas are no longer legal tender, sorry about that Chris , I thought you might have known that

I know the Eurozone is collapsing and national currencies are coming back. Bet you another ten Drachma it happens with Greece within two years.

I will only bet using legal tender, Chris. I thought a man like yourself would have realised that Greece uses the Euro . I am glad I have educated you today

Yet I’ve been bang on with my currency predictions as per previous threads. It’s about credible sources of information."

As you've said yourself, always so modest, and accurate and the voice of reason on here.

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By *ackal1Couple over a year ago

Manchester

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

There are plants in the UK but apparently not enough. I don't know a great deal about it tbh.

I've said from the start, adapt and overcome. It's what business does.

If they don’t go out of business first due to lack of sales.

So where was the detail on this in the oven ready deal?

You may have missed the part where I said there will be a short term hit.

I don't know a great deal about the fishing industry. I stand by my thoughts that businesses adapt. They also come and go for a wide variety of reasons.

I'm not saying Brexit won't be the reason some businesses go under but judging by some on here, it seems like it's the only reason a business has ever struggled.

The fishing industry was supposed to be one of the main beneficiaries of Brexit and the fact that they are now struggling is scandalous . Farage should be ashamed

Anyone who thought Farage gave a fuck about the fishing industry needs to pause and think.

As we all know he showed up out of 42 fisheries committee meetings that he was assigned to.

And now the brexit effect on the industry.

Farage works exclusively in the interests of his sponsors, funders and masters.

he was joined by his supporters taking advantage of people’s apathy in voting for MEPs.

He wasted years of membership at our expense and just took his feed at the trough.

The only time he made a statement longer than a four line paragraph was to complain about sea angling which he likes to do.

Not sea fishing or fishermen just rod and line angling.

That guy is a disgrace. How did he get so much support?

Because he is just a normal fella who likes a pint in the boozer.

Get onto his appearance with trump.

He is the david Brent of politics

Have a look on Farage's Twitter today for some top notch comedy. I predict.

A. You'll never be able to guess what he's announced.

B. It will make you laugh.

So Farage didn’t lead the charge for Brexit?

That’s like Blair saying don’t blame me for invading Iraq I wasn’t there and didn’t plan it.

Farage’s years of sabotaging our relationship with the EU helped bring us to this mess.

To then look away whistling while the fishermen go bust is not allowed.

It's almost like saying Blair didn't campaign for us to leave the EU for years and promise us an EU referendum if he got elected "

Exactly the same and both are responsible so we agree.

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

Quite interesting how brexiteers are now seeking to pin.the responsibility of brexit on a man who was pm over a decade ago.

Its almost like they are already trying to shift the blame from boris,nigel and co

Strange.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Quite interesting how brexiteers are now seeking to pin.the responsibility of brexit on a man who was pm over a decade ago.

Its almost like they are already trying to shift the blame from boris,nigel and co

Strange."

Was the statement not factually correct?

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Quite interesting how brexiteers are now seeking to pin.the responsibility of brexit on a man who was pm over a decade ago.

Its almost like they are already trying to shift the blame from boris,nigel and co

Strange.

Was the statement not factually correct?"

Which statement?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Quite interesting how brexiteers are now seeking to pin.the responsibility of brexit on a man who was pm over a decade ago.

Its almost like they are already trying to shift the blame from boris,nigel and co

Strange.

Was the statement not factually correct?

Which statement?"

The one you've replied to Lionel. Stop playing games and answer the question.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Quite interesting how brexiteers are now seeking to pin.the responsibility of brexit on a man who was pm over a decade ago.

Its almost like they are already trying to shift the blame from boris,nigel and co

Strange.

Was the statement not factually correct?"

The point is, it's not relevant.

There are several subspecies of Canadian Geese. It's true. But has nothing to do with Brexit, whose fault it is or the impact of Brexit on the UK fisheries.

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Quite interesting how brexiteers are now seeking to pin.the responsibility of brexit on a man who was pm over a decade ago.

Its almost like they are already trying to shift the blame from boris,nigel and co

Strange.

Was the statement not factually correct?

Which statement?

The one you've replied to Lionel. Stop playing games and answer the question.

I wasnt replying to any statement

The clue probally lies in the fact that I didnt actually quote anyone.

Like i said I find it interesting that the likes of tony Blair are somehow being dragged into the Brexit shitstorm.

The responsibility for Brexit lies squarely at the door of the leave campaign.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Quite interesting how brexiteers are now seeking to pin.the responsibility of brexit on a man who was pm over a decade ago.

Its almost like they are already trying to shift the blame from boris,nigel and co

Strange.

Was the statement not factually correct?

The point is, it's not relevant.

There are several subspecies of Canadian Geese. It's true. But has nothing to do with Brexit, whose fault it is or the impact of Brexit on the UK fisheries.

I'd disagree. Blair campaigned for Brexit and promised a referendum. To say he had nothing to do with Brexit is not true

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Quite interesting how brexiteers are now seeking to pin.the responsibility of brexit on a man who was pm over a decade ago.

Its almost like they are already trying to shift the blame from boris,nigel and co

Strange.

Was the statement not factually correct?

Which statement?

The one you've replied to Lionel. Stop playing games and answer the question.

I wasnt replying to any statement

The clue probally lies in the fact that I didnt actually quote anyone.

Like i said I find it interesting that the likes of tony Blair are somehow being dragged into the Brexit shitstorm.

The responsibility for Brexit lies squarely at the door of the leave campaign. "

If that's the case why do you drag up '45 years of lies'? Surely only the campaign matters?

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

banal logic??!!!?

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Quite interesting how brexiteers are now seeking to pin.the responsibility of brexit on a man who was pm over a decade ago.

Its almost like they are already trying to shift the blame from boris,nigel and co

Strange.

Was the statement not factually correct?

Which statement?

The one you've replied to Lionel. Stop playing games and answer the question.

I wasnt replying to any statement

The clue probally lies in the fact that I didnt actually quote anyone.

Like i said I find it interesting that the likes of tony Blair are somehow being dragged into the Brexit shitstorm.

The responsibility for Brexit lies squarely at the door of the leave campaign.

If that's the case why do you drag up '45 years of lies'? Surely only the campaign matters?"

Because the campaign fed into 30 years of anti eu headlines.

The responsibility of Brexit lies with the leave campaign

Is that false?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Quite interesting how brexiteers are now seeking to pin.the responsibility of brexit on a man who was pm over a decade ago.

Its almost like they are already trying to shift the blame from boris,nigel and co

Strange.

Was the statement not factually correct?

Which statement?

The one you've replied to Lionel. Stop playing games and answer the question.

I wasnt replying to any statement

The clue probally lies in the fact that I didnt actually quote anyone.

Like i said I find it interesting that the likes of tony Blair are somehow being dragged into the Brexit shitstorm.

The responsibility for Brexit lies squarely at the door of the leave campaign.

If that's the case why do you drag up '45 years of lies'? Surely only the campaign matters?

Because the campaign fed into 30 years of anti eu headlines.

The responsibility of Brexit lies with the leave campaign

Is that false?"

And Tony Balir was part of those years.

Are we only allowed to mention people/media that sits ok with you?

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

"Quite interesting how brexiteers are now seeking to pin.the responsibility of brexit on a man who was pm over a decade ago.

Its almost like they are already trying to shift the blame from boris,nigel and co

Strange.

Was the statement not factually correct?

Which statement?

The one you've replied to Lionel. Stop playing games and answer the question.

I wasnt replying to any statement

The clue probally lies in the fact that I didnt actually quote anyone.

Like i said I find it interesting that the likes of tony Blair are somehow being dragged into the Brexit shitstorm.

The responsibility for Brexit lies squarely at the door of the leave campaign.

If that's the case why do you drag up '45 years of lies'? Surely only the campaign matters?"
Because only remainers are allowed double standards.

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Quite interesting how brexiteers are now seeking to pin.the responsibility of brexit on a man who was pm over a decade ago.

Its almost like they are already trying to shift the blame from boris,nigel and co

Strange.

Was the statement not factually correct?

Which statement?

The one you've replied to Lionel. Stop playing games and answer the question.

I wasnt replying to any statement

The clue probally lies in the fact that I didnt actually quote anyone.

Like i said I find it interesting that the likes of tony Blair are somehow being dragged into the Brexit shitstorm.

The responsibility for Brexit lies squarely at the door of the leave campaign.

If that's the case why do you drag up '45 years of lies'? Surely only the campaign matters?

Because the campaign fed into 30 years of anti eu headlines.

The responsibility of Brexit lies with the leave campaign

Is that false?

And Tony Balir was part of those years.

Are we only allowed to mention people/media that sits ok with you?"

I'm hugely confused

When we left the eu the liked of the mail. Farage,Johnson where in celebratory mood..yet for the life of me, I cant recall them thanking tony Blair.

Did he campaign with ukip?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Quite interesting how brexiteers are now seeking to pin.the responsibility of brexit on a man who was pm over a decade ago.

Its almost like they are already trying to shift the blame from boris,nigel and co

Strange.

Was the statement not factually correct?

Which statement?

The one you've replied to Lionel. Stop playing games and answer the question.

I wasnt replying to any statement

The clue probally lies in the fact that I didnt actually quote anyone.

Like i said I find it interesting that the likes of tony Blair are somehow being dragged into the Brexit shitstorm.

The responsibility for Brexit lies squarely at the door of the leave campaign.

If that's the case why do you drag up '45 years of lies'? Surely only the campaign matters?

Because the campaign fed into 30 years of anti eu headlines.

The responsibility of Brexit lies with the leave campaign

Is that false?

And Tony Balir was part of those years.

Are we only allowed to mention people/media that sits ok with you?

I'm hugely confused

When we left the eu the liked of the mail. Farage,Johnson where in celebratory mood..yet for the life of me, I cant recall them thanking tony Blair.

Did he campaign with ukip?"

Did they? You obviously read the Mail more than me because I missed that.

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Quite interesting how brexiteers are now seeking to pin.the responsibility of brexit on a man who was pm over a decade ago.

Its almost like they are already trying to shift the blame from boris,nigel and co

Strange.

Was the statement not factually correct?

Which statement?

The one you've replied to Lionel. Stop playing games and answer the question.

I wasnt replying to any statement

The clue probally lies in the fact that I didnt actually quote anyone.

Like i said I find it interesting that the likes of tony Blair are somehow being dragged into the Brexit shitstorm.

The responsibility for Brexit lies squarely at the door of the leave campaign.

If that's the case why do you drag up '45 years of lies'? Surely only the campaign matters?

Because the campaign fed into 30 years of anti eu headlines.

The responsibility of Brexit lies with the leave campaign

Is that false?

And Tony Balir was part of those years.

Are we only allowed to mention people/media that sits ok with you?

I'm hugely confused

When we left the eu the liked of the mail. Farage,Johnson where in celebratory mood..yet for the life of me, I cant recall them thanking tony Blair.

Did he campaign with ukip?

Did they? You obviously read the Mail more than me because I missed that.

Did blair campaign with ukip or the brexit party?

It's a simple question.

Yes or no.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Quite interesting how brexiteers are now seeking to pin.the responsibility of brexit on a man who was pm over a decade ago.

Its almost like they are already trying to shift the blame from boris,nigel and co

Strange.

Was the statement not factually correct?

Which statement?

The one you've replied to Lionel. Stop playing games and answer the question.

I wasnt replying to any statement

The clue probally lies in the fact that I didnt actually quote anyone.

Like i said I find it interesting that the likes of tony Blair are somehow being dragged into the Brexit shitstorm.

The responsibility for Brexit lies squarely at the door of the leave campaign.

If that's the case why do you drag up '45 years of lies'? Surely only the campaign matters?

Because the campaign fed into 30 years of anti eu headlines.

The responsibility of Brexit lies with the leave campaign

Is that false?

And Tony Balir was part of those years.

Are we only allowed to mention people/media that sits ok with you?

I'm hugely confused

When we left the eu the liked of the mail. Farage,Johnson where in celebratory mood..yet for the life of me, I cant recall them thanking tony Blair.

Did he campaign with ukip?

Did they? You obviously read the Mail more than me because I missed that.

Did blair campaign with ukip or the brexit party?

It's a simple question.

Yes or no."

Those parties don't matter according to you're own standards. Only the Leave Campaign matters

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By *andy 1Couple over a year ago

northeast

"Quite interesting how brexiteers are now seeking to pin.the responsibility of brexit on a man who was pm over a decade ago.

Its almost like they are already trying to shift the blame from boris,nigel and co

Strange.

Was the statement not factually correct?

Which statement?

The one you've replied to Lionel. Stop playing games and answer the question.

I wasnt replying to any statement

The clue probally lies in the fact that I didnt actually quote anyone.

Like i said I find it interesting that the likes of tony Blair are somehow being dragged into the Brexit shitstorm.

The responsibility for Brexit lies squarely at the door of the leave campaign.

If that's the case why do you drag up '45 years of lies'? Surely only the campaign matters?"

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Quite interesting how brexiteers are now seeking to pin.the responsibility of brexit on a man who was pm over a decade ago.

Its almost like they are already trying to shift the blame from boris,nigel and co

Strange.

Was the statement not factually correct?

Which statement?

The one you've replied to Lionel. Stop playing games and answer the question.

I wasnt replying to any statement

The clue probally lies in the fact that I didnt actually quote anyone.

Like i said I find it interesting that the likes of tony Blair are somehow being dragged into the Brexit shitstorm.

The responsibility for Brexit lies squarely at the door of the leave campaign.

If that's the case why do you drag up '45 years of lies'? Surely only the campaign matters?

Because the campaign fed into 30 years of anti eu headlines.

The responsibility of Brexit lies with the leave campaign

Is that false?

And Tony Balir was part of those years.

Are we only allowed to mention people/media that sits ok with you?

I'm hugely confused

When we left the eu the liked of the mail. Farage,Johnson where in celebratory mood..yet for the life of me, I cant recall them thanking tony Blair.

Did he campaign with ukip?

Did they? You obviously read the Mail more than me because I missed that.

Did blair campaign with ukip or the brexit party?

It's a simple question.

Yes or no.

Those parties don't matter according to you're own standards. Only the Leave Campaign matters

I'll take that as a no.

I'm genuinely confused.

Less than 2 months ago there were loads of well done boris type threads.

And now it looks like they are been to pass the credit onto Blair.

Like I said

Strange.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Quite interesting how brexiteers are now seeking to pin.the responsibility of brexit on a man who was pm over a decade ago.

Its almost like they are already trying to shift the blame from boris,nigel and co

Strange.

Was the statement not factually correct?

Which statement?

The one you've replied to Lionel. Stop playing games and answer the question.

I wasnt replying to any statement

The clue probally lies in the fact that I didnt actually quote anyone.

Like i said I find it interesting that the likes of tony Blair are somehow being dragged into the Brexit shitstorm.

The responsibility for Brexit lies squarely at the door of the leave campaign.

If that's the case why do you drag up '45 years of lies'? Surely only the campaign matters?

Because the campaign fed into 30 years of anti eu headlines.

The responsibility of Brexit lies with the leave campaign

Is that false?

And Tony Balir was part of those years.

Are we only allowed to mention people/media that sits ok with you?

I'm hugely confused

When we left the eu the liked of the mail. Farage,Johnson where in celebratory mood..yet for the life of me, I cant recall them thanking tony Blair.

Did he campaign with ukip?

Did they? You obviously read the Mail more than me because I missed that.

Did blair campaign with ukip or the brexit party?

It's a simple question.

Yes or no.

Those parties don't matter according to you're own standards. Only the Leave Campaign matters

I'll take that as a no.

I'm genuinely confused.

Less than 2 months ago there were loads of well done boris type threads.

And now it looks like they are been to pass the credit onto Blair.

Like I said

Strange. "

I think you are genuinely confused because no one has passed any credit. I think you need to go read again

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By *ackal1Couple over a year ago

Manchester

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

There are plants in the UK but apparently not enough. I don't know a great deal about it tbh.

I've said from the start, adapt and overcome. It's what business does.

If they don’t go out of business first due to lack of sales.

So where was the detail on this in the oven ready deal?

You may have missed the part where I said there will be a short term hit.

I don't know a great deal about the fishing industry. I stand by my thoughts that businesses adapt. They also come and go for a wide variety of reasons.

I'm not saying Brexit won't be the reason some businesses go under but judging by some on here, it seems like it's the only reason a business has ever struggled."

Yes so when their houses are repossessed I’m sure they will be comforted by it being a short term hit.

They do indeed go bust for various reasons . In this case the sole reason is Brexit and this was brought about by our own incompetent government.

Yet again Boris lied about Brexit and didn’t do the details. Signing a deal with a week to go? Where was the scrutiny?

The blame lies firmly with him.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

There are plants in the UK but apparently not enough. I don't know a great deal about it tbh.

I've said from the start, adapt and overcome. It's what business does.

If they don’t go out of business first due to lack of sales.

So where was the detail on this in the oven ready deal?

You may have missed the part where I said there will be a short term hit.

I don't know a great deal about the fishing industry. I stand by my thoughts that businesses adapt. They also come and go for a wide variety of reasons.

I'm not saying Brexit won't be the reason some businesses go under but judging by some on here, it seems like it's the only reason a business has ever struggled.

Yes so when their houses are repossessed I’m sure they will be comforted by it being a short term hit.

They do indeed go bust for various reasons . In this case the sole reason is Brexit and this was brought about by our own incompetent government.

Yet again Boris lied about Brexit and didn’t do the details. Signing a deal with a week to go? Where was the scrutiny?

The blame lies firmly with him. "

According to others here and elsewhere this is not the blame of the government but a collective of governement, campaigners, electorate, media.

I still do not understand why those businesses didn't invest in the plant to purify in the UK.

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By *or Fox SakeCouple over a year ago

Thornaby

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

There are plants in the UK but apparently not enough. I don't know a great deal about it tbh.

I've said from the start, adapt and overcome. It's what business does.

If they don’t go out of business first due to lack of sales.

So where was the detail on this in the oven ready deal?

You may have missed the part where I said there will be a short term hit.

I don't know a great deal about the fishing industry. I stand by my thoughts that businesses adapt. They also come and go for a wide variety of reasons.

I'm not saying Brexit won't be the reason some businesses go under but judging by some on here, it seems like it's the only reason a business has ever struggled.

Short term hit is a dismissive statement if it’s you going out of business don’t you think?

Business fail all the time but not usually due to increased legislation and government imposed rules and processes.

A short term hit to the industry as a whole. I've already agreed that some businesses may go under. As sad as that is, it's life. Businesses go under every day.

I've had this discussion on here before about industry and regs. Regs constantly change and some businesses can't adapt. They go under and no one even knows, or cares.

This is only a discussion because of Brexit.

can you advise how long the short term hit wil;l last, as every day it goes on, alternative suppliers step in.

No. I can't advise. I'm not qualified to.

Where were you all when the fishing industry was losing half of it's force over the last 15 years?"

Sat at home watching fishermen sell their licences. But if that's the route you want to go down where was Farage, he sat on the fishing commission if memory serves.

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS over a year ago

Stockport

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

There are plants in the UK but apparently not enough. I don't know a great deal about it tbh.

I've said from the start, adapt and overcome. It's what business does.

If they don’t go out of business first due to lack of sales.

So where was the detail on this in the oven ready deal?

You may have missed the part where I said there will be a short term hit.

I don't know a great deal about the fishing industry. I stand by my thoughts that businesses adapt. They also come and go for a wide variety of reasons.

I'm not saying Brexit won't be the reason some businesses go under but judging by some on here, it seems like it's the only reason a business has ever struggled.

Short term hit is a dismissive statement if it’s you going out of business don’t you think?

Business fail all the time but not usually due to increased legislation and government imposed rules and processes.

A short term hit to the industry as a whole. I've already agreed that some businesses may go under. As sad as that is, it's life. Businesses go under every day.

I've had this discussion on here before about industry and regs. Regs constantly change and some businesses can't adapt. They go under and no one even knows, or cares.

This is only a discussion because of Brexit.

Rules usually are warned of and noted with lots of notice usually a year. Rules are also for safety or to better society.

These rules weren’t even mentioned never mind warned of. Also where is the benefit to society in the fisherman’s rule changes?

It’s not the same in any way.

It that old 'prepare for the worst' argument again.

Why didn't they prepare. You can argue all you like about not having time, but everyone could foresee what would happen without a trade deal so why not prepare for it?"

Because right until after it had even happened, boris kept promising every day that the deal would be wonderful, that it was the greatest thing ever, that nobody would suffer because of it.

Why would a fisherman running his business on a razor thin margin spend thousands and thousands on preparations, when every time he turns on the telly the prime minister is reassuring his industry that they were going to be looked after. When on Christmas day the PM makes a statement that he's done this magnificent deal, that he's taken a personal hand in it, that he's gone the extra mile solely to look after the fisheries?

And what preparations could they make? The fishermen didn't know what was in the deal until after it had been done. For God's sake, the fisheries minister didn't know what was in the deal until after it was done because she didn't bother reading the text!! And at every step the word coming from the very top of government was "this is a great deal, it's an oven ready deal, it's taking the fish off the nasty EU and giving it to our brave plucky UK fishermen".

When you say "they should have made preparations", I would think it should be sufficient preparations to ask the man who is doing the deal what you needed to do, and when he says "it's going to be great" expect that it's not going to actually send you bankrupt.

Because if six months ago boris had said "Fishermen, prepare to lose everything. Farmers, you're not going to be able to get meat to europe. Flower growers, tough shit. Cheesemakers - don't build that extension to your dairy, you're going to have to lay off your staff in Cheshire, and move your entire operation to Belgium - only you can't because you're not allowed to work in the EU any more. Lorry drivers - forget it, you're going to need a permit, but there's only going to be enough permits for one tenth of you." Then people could have made preparations for the worst. Though somehow I suspect those preparation might have included saying "hold on now, this doesn't seem like a good deal, it actually looks like the worst deal in history, why are we doing this again?".

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

There are plants in the UK but apparently not enough. I don't know a great deal about it tbh.

I've said from the start, adapt and overcome. It's what business does.

If they don’t go out of business first due to lack of sales.

So where was the detail on this in the oven ready deal?

You may have missed the part where I said there will be a short term hit.

I don't know a great deal about the fishing industry. I stand by my thoughts that businesses adapt. They also come and go for a wide variety of reasons.

I'm not saying Brexit won't be the reason some businesses go under but judging by some on here, it seems like it's the only reason a business has ever struggled.

Short term hit is a dismissive statement if it’s you going out of business don’t you think?

Business fail all the time but not usually due to increased legislation and government imposed rules and processes.

A short term hit to the industry as a whole. I've already agreed that some businesses may go under. As sad as that is, it's life. Businesses go under every day.

I've had this discussion on here before about industry and regs. Regs constantly change and some businesses can't adapt. They go under and no one even knows, or cares.

This is only a discussion because of Brexit.

can you advise how long the short term hit wil;l last, as every day it goes on, alternative suppliers step in.

No. I can't advise. I'm not qualified to.

Where were you all when the fishing industry was losing half of it's force over the last 15 years?

Sat at home watching fishermen sell their licences. But if that's the route you want to go down where was Farage, he sat on the fishing commission if memory serves."

I'm not having a conversation with Farage. But if I was I'd ask him the same thing

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS over a year ago

Stockport

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

There are plants in the UK but apparently not enough. I don't know a great deal about it tbh.

I've said from the start, adapt and overcome. It's what business does.

If they don’t go out of business first due to lack of sales.

So where was the detail on this in the oven ready deal?

You may have missed the part where I said there will be a short term hit.

I don't know a great deal about the fishing industry. I stand by my thoughts that businesses adapt. They also come and go for a wide variety of reasons.

I'm not saying Brexit won't be the reason some businesses go under but judging by some on here, it seems like it's the only reason a business has ever struggled.

Yes so when their houses are repossessed I’m sure they will be comforted by it being a short term hit.

They do indeed go bust for various reasons . In this case the sole reason is Brexit and this was brought about by our own incompetent government.

Yet again Boris lied about Brexit and didn’t do the details. Signing a deal with a week to go? Where was the scrutiny?

The blame lies firmly with him. "

A deal where the fisheries minister didn't even read the fisheries section. Because she was too busy doing carol singing or some such activities that were absolutely vital to the economic security of the United Kingdom.

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By *ackal1Couple over a year ago

Manchester

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

There are plants in the UK but apparently not enough. I don't know a great deal about it tbh.

I've said from the start, adapt and overcome. It's what business does.

If they don’t go out of business first due to lack of sales.

So where was the detail on this in the oven ready deal?

You may have missed the part where I said there will be a short term hit.

I don't know a great deal about the fishing industry. I stand by my thoughts that businesses adapt. They also come and go for a wide variety of reasons.

I'm not saying Brexit won't be the reason some businesses go under but judging by some on here, it seems like it's the only reason a business has ever struggled.

Yes so when their houses are repossessed I’m sure they will be comforted by it being a short term hit.

They do indeed go bust for various reasons . In this case the sole reason is Brexit and this was brought about by our own incompetent government.

Yet again Boris lied about Brexit and didn’t do the details. Signing a deal with a week to go? Where was the scrutiny?

The blame lies firmly with him.

According to others here and elsewhere this is not the blame of the government but a collective of governement, campaigners, electorate, media.

I still do not understand why those businesses didn't invest in the plant to purify in the UK. "

Boris had the chance to let parliament and industry scrutinise the deal for these minefields but insisted on rushing his deal through. He has to take the blame for the appalling deal.

Campaigners can take the blame for us leaving the EU.

Washing Explained - cost, so investment needed and who’s paying? Freshness - I didn’t know this before but they stay fresh for transport if not washed . Washing makes them decay quicker so less attractive for buyers. Every days a learning day. With fish it’s the other way around. If you don’t gut and rinse them before packing in ice they rot quicker. And smell really bad!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

There are plants in the UK but apparently not enough. I don't know a great deal about it tbh.

I've said from the start, adapt and overcome. It's what business does.

If they don’t go out of business first due to lack of sales.

So where was the detail on this in the oven ready deal?

You may have missed the part where I said there will be a short term hit.

I don't know a great deal about the fishing industry. I stand by my thoughts that businesses adapt. They also come and go for a wide variety of reasons.

I'm not saying Brexit won't be the reason some businesses go under but judging by some on here, it seems like it's the only reason a business has ever struggled.

Yes so when their houses are repossessed I’m sure they will be comforted by it being a short term hit.

They do indeed go bust for various reasons . In this case the sole reason is Brexit and this was brought about by our own incompetent government.

Yet again Boris lied about Brexit and didn’t do the details. Signing a deal with a week to go? Where was the scrutiny?

The blame lies firmly with him.

According to others here and elsewhere this is not the blame of the government but a collective of governement, campaigners, electorate, media.

I still do not understand why those businesses didn't invest in the plant to purify in the UK.

Boris had the chance to let parliament and industry scrutinise the deal for these minefields but insisted on rushing his deal through. He has to take the blame for the appalling deal.

Campaigners can take the blame for us leaving the EU.

For me, I'd be looking at subsidies for equipment but I'm not chancellor.

I also, wasn't aware until today re. freshness when it was posted here. I don't know if it's true but I'm happy to take the posters word on it.

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By *ackal1Couple over a year ago

Manchester

"I’ve missed the background to this, why have the EU banned UK shellfish?

They haven't. The issue is around unpurified shellfish.

The UK don't have enough plants apparently and whilst we were in the EU they could be purified on the other side of the water.

Now, that is not the case. They must be purified before export.

So then why is someone not doing it here then?

There are plants in the UK but apparently not enough. I don't know a great deal about it tbh.

I've said from the start, adapt and overcome. It's what business does.

If they don’t go out of business first due to lack of sales.

So where was the detail on this in the oven ready deal?

You may have missed the part where I said there will be a short term hit.

I don't know a great deal about the fishing industry. I stand by my thoughts that businesses adapt. They also come and go for a wide variety of reasons.

I'm not saying Brexit won't be the reason some businesses go under but judging by some on here, it seems like it's the only reason a business has ever struggled.

Yes so when their houses are repossessed I’m sure they will be comforted by it being a short term hit.

They do indeed go bust for various reasons . In this case the sole reason is Brexit and this was brought about by our own incompetent government.

Yet again Boris lied about Brexit and didn’t do the details. Signing a deal with a week to go? Where was the scrutiny?

The blame lies firmly with him.

According to others here and elsewhere this is not the blame of the government but a collective of governement, campaigners, electorate, media.

I still do not understand why those businesses didn't invest in the plant to purify in the UK.

Boris had the chance to let parliament and industry scrutinise the deal for these minefields but insisted on rushing his deal through. He has to take the blame for the appalling deal.

Campaigners can take the blame for us leaving the EU.

For me, I'd be looking at subsidies for equipment but I'm not chancellor.

I also, wasn't aware until today re. freshness when it was posted here. I don't know if it's true but I'm happy to take the posters word on it.

I suspect it’s not just the ban it’s more problematic than that.

A lot of these fishermen are small set ups and they consolidate their exports . If say they only sell £500 worth of shellfish they have to pay their share of the transport but now their individual customs which could push £80+ depending on number of types etc. and then try to claim VAT back if the receiver isn’t interested in a DAP deal. It’s making it hard to turn a profit even without the ban.

It’s why those small online firms are complaining. The OSS set up in July will help small retail sales but still cost and probably not help wholesale business.

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By *untwolancashireCouple over a year ago

Preston

Here’s a thought why not bring back the traditional Friday fish day or no meat on a Friday, (if you don’t like fish you can always have a butter pie mmmm) we can all support the UK fishing industry & eat healthy at the same time. X

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Here’s a thought why not bring back the traditional Friday fish day or no meat on a Friday, (if you don’t like fish you can always have a butter pie mmmm) we can all support the UK fishing industry & eat healthy at the same time. X"

That was only good Friday wasmt it?

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By *ust some cock suckerMan over a year ago

Preston

I'll leave the people who put the fishing industry in this mess to support them

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan over a year ago

Hastings

Probably cos we all most want cod and chips in Hastings they buy th he cod at London markets as there is none left of the coast hear but it will get better if stocks are managed.

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS over a year ago

Stockport

That was only good Friday wasmt it?"

Traditional Christian thing, originally catholic but carried over to most denominations. Fish not meat, every Friday.

If the aim is to help out the fishing industry, it'll have to be fish every day. Waiting until Friday would mean that the fish arriving Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday would be off by Friday. The only day we don't want to be eating fish is Monday (because the boats don't come home Saturday or Sunday, no fresh fish landing at the weekend, so all fish on Monday has been lying around since at least Friday...).

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS over a year ago

Stockport

I'll leave the people who put the fishing industry in this mess to support them

That's a good idea. It should be carried over to all that have been adversely affected by brexit. Everyone that voted to leave, get your wallets open and start supporting.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan over a year ago

Hastings

That was only good Friday wasmt it?

Traditional Christian thing, originally catholic but carried over to most denominations. Fish not meat, every Friday.

Don't know the Hastings boats where out to day and at high tide the stalls where stocked

But it's skate, sole and plaice. Mainly some Huss

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By *ostafunMan over a year ago

near ipswich

That was only good Friday wasmt it?

Traditional Christian thing, originally catholic but carried over to most denominations. Fish not meat, every Friday.

"
Dont know about all markets but billingsgate doesn't open on sundays thats why the fresh fish shops are closed around here.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan over a year ago

Hastings

That was only good Friday wasmt it?

Traditional Christian thing, originally catholic but carried over to most denominations. Fish not meat, every Friday.

Dont know about all markets but billingsgate doesn't open on sundays thats why the fresh fish shops are closed around here."

Hastings sell on the beach but it can't be gutted

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By *ovebjsMan over a year ago

Bristol

Surely if the price of fish in the U.K. was not kept artificially high more people would eat it here ?

And would be a lot more healthier too

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By *rystal DreamtimeTV/TS over a year ago

horsham

Artificially high ? 5 quid for a piece of Cod . That a group of blokes had to get a big boat put diesel in it , go out in the middle of the ocean for a few days . Work like fuck , to bring it back . Then another bloke has to sell it , ship it to the shop where you get to buy it ..

So what do you want to pay for it ? Half a quid ?

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By *uliaChrisCouple over a year ago

westerham

"Artificially high ? 5 quid for a piece of Cod . That a group of blokes had to get a big boat put diesel in it , go out in the middle of the ocean for a few days . Work like fuck , to bring it back . Then another bloke has to sell it , ship it to the shop where you get to buy it ..

So what do you want to pay for it ? Half a quid ? "

It does seem pricey for something that has grown in the sea with no human input or investment at all.

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By *ovebjsMan over a year ago

Bristol

So what do you want to pay for it ? Half a quid ? "

Are you saying that a group of blokes fished for a piece of cod worth £5 ?

They fish in tones not pieces.

And fish can be farmed you know

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By *ovebjsMan over a year ago

Bristol

Typed in a rush last time

But meant to say that the prices that the fishermen get is a million miles away from what we have to pay as consumers

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By *ethnmelvCouple over a year ago

Cardiff

So what do you want to pay for it ? Half a quid ?

It does seem pricey for something that has grown in the sea with no human input or investment at all. "

What a Brexit opportunity for you to get in there and make a fortune. It isn’t dangerous in the slightest. The fish just leap into your nets, or onto your hooks. You never get by catch you have to throw away, or fish that are too small/young. I wonder if you drink mineral water as well, now that is pricey

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