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"I wonder what we will find in there, so to speak, he is back and wont sit down, he said this is just the start, what will his next move be you reckon? I heard that he is starting his own party, it will be interesting to see how that goes " I’m sure he will find some gullible rich folks to scam out of cash | |||
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"The scenario is not good for the republicans because whatever he does will cause their voting base to split. If they keep backing trump, then they will lose the moderates - and more importantly, lose a lot of the corporate money. He's certainly not going to stand down himself then put his support to other republicans, unless it's members of his own family standing. Basically trump doesn't give a fuck about the republican party as such, or any of the values they stand for, they have only ever just been a way for him to promote himself and his family. And he's not even that keen on his family, if he can't be the power. If he starts his own party, that will just steal so much of the vote that it'll destroy the republicans. Really, I cannot understand why the GOPs didn't convict him when they had a chance, their best route to regaining power in the shortest period possible would be to crush trump so hard that he loses his entire vote base. A plan that might have worked would be impeach & find guilty, then push some of the criminal cases forwards to get him into jail, revive the russian investigation and get him labelled as a traitor, use the opportunity to witch-hunt through the entire party and wipe out trumpism for good. The only reason I can see for the republican senate still supporting him is that they are probably all up to the neck in the corruption themselves, and any properly conducted investigation would bring down not just trump but many of the top senators..." I think the dems played it perfectly. Every time the Republicans bring up law and order now,they simply wont have a leg to stand on. As for trump isnt he also going to be investigated for that Georgia telephone call isnt he? 1 of the many things I could never understand is,clearly, blatantly, he literally couldnt give a fuck about anyone else.He would happily have seen the country burn ,if it meant he got another 4 years. Yet so many Americans buy into that.. he is doing it for us nonsense. | |||
"The scenario is not good for the republicans because whatever he does will cause their voting base to split. If they keep backing trump, then they will lose the moderates - and more importantly, lose a lot of the corporate money. He's certainly not going to stand down himself then put his support to other republicans, unless it's members of his own family standing. Basically trump doesn't give a fuck about the republican party as such, or any of the values they stand for, they have only ever just been a way for him to promote himself and his family. And he's not even that keen on his family, if he can't be the power. If he starts his own party, that will just steal so much of the vote that it'll destroy the republicans. Really, I cannot understand why the GOPs didn't convict him when they had a chance, their best route to regaining power in the shortest period possible would be to crush trump so hard that he loses his entire vote base. A plan that might have worked would be impeach & find guilty, then push some of the criminal cases forwards to get him into jail, revive the russian investigation and get him labelled as a traitor, use the opportunity to witch-hunt through the entire party and wipe out trumpism for good. The only reason I can see for the republican senate still supporting him is that they are probably all up to the neck in the corruption themselves, and any properly conducted investigation would bring down not just trump but many of the top senators... I think the dems played it perfectly. Every time the Republicans bring up law and order now,they simply wont have a leg to stand on. As for trump isnt he also going to be investigated for that Georgia telephone call isnt he? 1 of the many things I could never understand is,clearly, blatantly, he literally couldnt give a fuck about anyone else.He would happily have seen the country burn ,if it meant he got another 4 years. Yet so many Americans buy into that.. he is doing it for us nonsense." There will be alot more violence this year. Nothing changed the far right emboldened now. Kind of like the left did in the past. | |||
"The scenario is not good for the republicans because whatever he does will cause their voting base to split. If they keep backing trump, then they will lose the moderates - and more importantly, lose a lot of the corporate money. He's certainly not going to stand down himself then put his support to other republicans, unless it's members of his own family standing. Basically trump doesn't give a fuck about the republican party as such, or any of the values they stand for, they have only ever just been a way for him to promote himself and his family. And he's not even that keen on his family, if he can't be the power. If he starts his own party, that will just steal so much of the vote that it'll destroy the republicans. Really, I cannot understand why the GOPs didn't convict him when they had a chance, their best route to regaining power in the shortest period possible would be to crush trump so hard that he loses his entire vote base. A plan that might have worked would be impeach & find guilty, then push some of the criminal cases forwards to get him into jail, revive the russian investigation and get him labelled as a traitor, use the opportunity to witch-hunt through the entire party and wipe out trumpism for good. The only reason I can see for the republican senate still supporting him is that they are probably all up to the neck in the corruption themselves, and any properly conducted investigation would bring down not just trump but many of the top senators... I think the dems played it perfectly. Every time the Republicans bring up law and order now,they simply wont have a leg to stand on. As for trump isnt he also going to be investigated for that Georgia telephone call isnt he? 1 of the many things I could never understand is,clearly, blatantly, he literally couldnt give a fuck about anyone else.He would happily have seen the country burn ,if it meant he got another 4 years. Yet so many Americans buy into that.. he is doing it for us nonsense. There will be alot more violence this year. Nothing changed the far right emboldened now. Kind of like the left did in the past." When did the left storm the Capitol? | |||
"The scenario is not good for the republicans because whatever he does will cause their voting base to split. If they keep backing trump, then they will lose the moderates - and more importantly, lose a lot of the corporate money. He's certainly not going to stand down himself then put his support to other republicans, unless it's members of his own family standing. Basically trump doesn't give a fuck about the republican party as such, or any of the values they stand for, they have only ever just been a way for him to promote himself and his family. And he's not even that keen on his family, if he can't be the power. If he starts his own party, that will just steal so much of the vote that it'll destroy the republicans. Really, I cannot understand why the GOPs didn't convict him when they had a chance, their best route to regaining power in the shortest period possible would be to crush trump so hard that he loses his entire vote base. A plan that might have worked would be impeach & find guilty, then push some of the criminal cases forwards to get him into jail, revive the russian investigation and get him labelled as a traitor, use the opportunity to witch-hunt through the entire party and wipe out trumpism for good. The only reason I can see for the republican senate still supporting him is that they are probably all up to the neck in the corruption themselves, and any properly conducted investigation would bring down not just trump but many of the top senators... I think the dems played it perfectly. Every time the Republicans bring up law and order now,they simply wont have a leg to stand on. As for trump isnt he also going to be investigated for that Georgia telephone call isnt he? 1 of the many things I could never understand is,clearly, blatantly, he literally couldnt give a fuck about anyone else.He would happily have seen the country burn ,if it meant he got another 4 years. Yet so many Americans buy into that.. he is doing it for us nonsense. There will be alot more violence this year. Nothing changed the far right emboldened now. Kind of like the left did in the past. When did the left storm the Capitol? " They just bombed it in 1983 is all guess that was ok . Violence in the 70s. It's a political cycle. Guess it's the far right turn. | |||
"The scenario is not good for the republicans because whatever he does will cause their voting base to split. If they keep backing trump, then they will lose the moderates - and more importantly, lose a lot of the corporate money. He's certainly not going to stand down himself then put his support to other republicans, unless it's members of his own family standing. Basically trump doesn't give a fuck about the republican party as such, or any of the values they stand for, they have only ever just been a way for him to promote himself and his family. And he's not even that keen on his family, if he can't be the power. If he starts his own party, that will just steal so much of the vote that it'll destroy the republicans. Really, I cannot understand why the GOPs didn't convict him when they had a chance, their best route to regaining power in the shortest period possible would be to crush trump so hard that he loses his entire vote base. A plan that might have worked would be impeach & find guilty, then push some of the criminal cases forwards to get him into jail, revive the russian investigation and get him labelled as a traitor, use the opportunity to witch-hunt through the entire party and wipe out trumpism for good. The only reason I can see for the republican senate still supporting him is that they are probably all up to the neck in the corruption themselves, and any properly conducted investigation would bring down not just trump but many of the top senators... I think the dems played it perfectly. Every time the Republicans bring up law and order now,they simply wont have a leg to stand on. As for trump isnt he also going to be investigated for that Georgia telephone call isnt he? 1 of the many things I could never understand is,clearly, blatantly, he literally couldnt give a fuck about anyone else.He would happily have seen the country burn ,if it meant he got another 4 years. Yet so many Americans buy into that.. he is doing it for us nonsense. There will be alot more violence this year. Nothing changed the far right emboldened now. Kind of like the left did in the past. When did the left storm the Capitol? They just bombed it in 1983 is all guess that was ok . Violence in the 70s. It's a political cycle. Guess it's the far right turn. " I hadn't heard of the bombing in '83 until a few weeks ago. A radicalised section of the population is never a positive. | |||
"The scenario is not good for the republicans because whatever he does will cause their voting base to split. If they keep backing trump, then they will lose the moderates - and more importantly, lose a lot of the corporate money. He's certainly not going to stand down himself then put his support to other republicans, unless it's members of his own family standing. Basically trump doesn't give a fuck about the republican party as such, or any of the values they stand for, they have only ever just been a way for him to promote himself and his family. And he's not even that keen on his family, if he can't be the power. If he starts his own party, that will just steal so much of the vote that it'll destroy the republicans. Really, I cannot understand why the GOPs didn't convict him when they had a chance, their best route to regaining power in the shortest period possible would be to crush trump so hard that he loses his entire vote base. A plan that might have worked would be impeach & find guilty, then push some of the criminal cases forwards to get him into jail, revive the russian investigation and get him labelled as a traitor, use the opportunity to witch-hunt through the entire party and wipe out trumpism for good. The only reason I can see for the republican senate still supporting him is that they are probably all up to the neck in the corruption themselves, and any properly conducted investigation would bring down not just trump but many of the top senators... I think the dems played it perfectly. Every time the Republicans bring up law and order now,they simply wont have a leg to stand on. As for trump isnt he also going to be investigated for that Georgia telephone call isnt he? 1 of the many things I could never understand is,clearly, blatantly, he literally couldnt give a fuck about anyone else.He would happily have seen the country burn ,if it meant he got another 4 years. Yet so many Americans buy into that.. he is doing it for us nonsense. There will be alot more violence this year. Nothing changed the far right emboldened now. Kind of like the left did in the past. When did the left storm the Capitol? They just bombed it in 1983 is all guess that was ok . Violence in the 70s. It's a political cycle. Guess it's the far right turn. " 1983? Did anyone die? What were they protesting about | |||
"The scenario is not good for the republicans because whatever he does will cause their voting base to split. If they keep backing trump, then they will lose the moderates - and more importantly, lose a lot of the corporate money. He's certainly not going to stand down himself then put his support to other republicans, unless it's members of his own family standing. Basically trump doesn't give a fuck about the republican party as such, or any of the values they stand for, they have only ever just been a way for him to promote himself and his family. And he's not even that keen on his family, if he can't be the power. If he starts his own party, that will just steal so much of the vote that it'll destroy the republicans. Really, I cannot understand why the GOPs didn't convict him when they had a chance, their best route to regaining power in the shortest period possible would be to crush trump so hard that he loses his entire vote base. A plan that might have worked would be impeach & find guilty, then push some of the criminal cases forwards to get him into jail, revive the russian investigation and get him labelled as a traitor, use the opportunity to witch-hunt through the entire party and wipe out trumpism for good. The only reason I can see for the republican senate still supporting him is that they are probably all up to the neck in the corruption themselves, and any properly conducted investigation would bring down not just trump but many of the top senators... I think the dems played it perfectly. Every time the Republicans bring up law and order now,they simply wont have a leg to stand on. As for trump isnt he also going to be investigated for that Georgia telephone call isnt he? 1 of the many things I could never understand is,clearly, blatantly, he literally couldnt give a fuck about anyone else.He would happily have seen the country burn ,if it meant he got another 4 years. Yet so many Americans buy into that.. he is doing it for us nonsense. There will be alot more violence this year. Nothing changed the far right emboldened now. Kind of like the left did in the past. When did the left storm the Capitol? They just bombed it in 1983 is all guess that was ok . Violence in the 70s. It's a political cycle. Guess it's the far right turn. 1983? Did anyone die? What were they protesting about " You already know those answers don't you | |||
"The scenario is not good for the republicans because whatever he does will cause their voting base to split. If they keep backing trump, then they will lose the moderates - and more importantly, lose a lot of the corporate money. He's certainly not going to stand down himself then put his support to other republicans, unless it's members of his own family standing. Basically trump doesn't give a fuck about the republican party as such, or any of the values they stand for, they have only ever just been a way for him to promote himself and his family. And he's not even that keen on his family, if he can't be the power. If he starts his own party, that will just steal so much of the vote that it'll destroy the republicans. Really, I cannot understand why the GOPs didn't convict him when they had a chance, their best route to regaining power in the shortest period possible would be to crush trump so hard that he loses his entire vote base. A plan that might have worked would be impeach & find guilty, then push some of the criminal cases forwards to get him into jail, revive the russian investigation and get him labelled as a traitor, use the opportunity to witch-hunt through the entire party and wipe out trumpism for good. The only reason I can see for the republican senate still supporting him is that they are probably all up to the neck in the corruption themselves, and any properly conducted investigation would bring down not just trump but many of the top senators... I think the dems played it perfectly. Every time the Republicans bring up law and order now,they simply wont have a leg to stand on. As for trump isnt he also going to be investigated for that Georgia telephone call isnt he? 1 of the many things I could never understand is,clearly, blatantly, he literally couldnt give a fuck about anyone else.He would happily have seen the country burn ,if it meant he got another 4 years. Yet so many Americans buy into that.. he is doing it for us nonsense. There will be alot more violence this year. Nothing changed the far right emboldened now. Kind of like the left did in the past. When did the left storm the Capitol? They just bombed it in 1983 is all guess that was ok . Violence in the 70s. It's a political cycle. Guess it's the far right turn. 1983? Did anyone die? What were they protesting about You already know those answers don't you " Was away for 10 minutes googling | |||
"The scenario is not good for the republicans because whatever he does will cause their voting base to split. If they keep backing trump, then they will lose the moderates - and more importantly, lose a lot of the corporate money. He's certainly not going to stand down himself then put his support to other republicans, unless it's members of his own family standing. Basically trump doesn't give a fuck about the republican party as such, or any of the values they stand for, they have only ever just been a way for him to promote himself and his family. And he's not even that keen on his family, if he can't be the power. If he starts his own party, that will just steal so much of the vote that it'll destroy the republicans. Really, I cannot understand why the GOPs didn't convict him when they had a chance, their best route to regaining power in the shortest period possible would be to crush trump so hard that he loses his entire vote base. A plan that might have worked would be impeach & find guilty, then push some of the criminal cases forwards to get him into jail, revive the russian investigation and get him labelled as a traitor, use the opportunity to witch-hunt through the entire party and wipe out trumpism for good. The only reason I can see for the republican senate still supporting him is that they are probably all up to the neck in the corruption themselves, and any properly conducted investigation would bring down not just trump but many of the top senators... I think the dems played it perfectly. Every time the Republicans bring up law and order now,they simply wont have a leg to stand on. As for trump isnt he also going to be investigated for that Georgia telephone call isnt he? 1 of the many things I could never understand is,clearly, blatantly, he literally couldnt give a fuck about anyone else.He would happily have seen the country burn ,if it meant he got another 4 years. Yet so many Americans buy into that.. he is doing it for us nonsense. There will be alot more violence this year. Nothing changed the far right emboldened now. Kind of like the left did in the past. When did the left storm the Capitol? They just bombed it in 1983 is all guess that was ok . Violence in the 70s. It's a political cycle. Guess it's the far right turn. 1983? Did anyone die? What were they protesting about You already know those answers don't you " I don’t | |||
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"The scenario is not good for the republicans because whatever he does will cause their voting base to split. If they keep backing trump, then they will lose the moderates - and more importantly, lose a lot of the corporate money. He's certainly not going to stand down himself then put his support to other republicans, unless it's members of his own family standing. Basically trump doesn't give a fuck about the republican party as such, or any of the values they stand for, they have only ever just been a way for him to promote himself and his family. And he's not even that keen on his family, if he can't be the power. If he starts his own party, that will just steal so much of the vote that it'll destroy the republicans. Really, I cannot understand why the GOPs didn't convict him when they had a chance, their best route to regaining power in the shortest period possible would be to crush trump so hard that he loses his entire vote base. A plan that might have worked would be impeach & find guilty, then push some of the criminal cases forwards to get him into jail, revive the russian investigation and get him labelled as a traitor, use the opportunity to witch-hunt through the entire party and wipe out trumpism for good. The only reason I can see for the republican senate still supporting him is that they are probably all up to the neck in the corruption themselves, and any properly conducted investigation would bring down not just trump but many of the top senators... I think the dems played it perfectly. Every time the Republicans bring up law and order now,they simply wont have a leg to stand on. As for trump isnt he also going to be investigated for that Georgia telephone call isnt he? 1 of the many things I could never understand is,clearly, blatantly, he literally couldnt give a fuck about anyone else.He would happily have seen the country burn ,if it meant he got another 4 years. Yet so many Americans buy into that.. he is doing it for us nonsense. There will be alot more violence this year. Nothing changed the far right emboldened now. Kind of like the left did in the past. When did the left storm the Capitol? They just bombed it in 1983 is all guess that was ok . Violence in the 70s. It's a political cycle. Guess it's the far right turn. 1983? Did anyone die? What were they protesting about You already know those answers don't you I don’t " If you don't know, how did you know it was a 'protest bombing'? | |||
"The scenario is not good for the republicans because whatever he does will cause their voting base to split. If they keep backing trump, then they will lose the moderates - and more importantly, lose a lot of the corporate money. He's certainly not going to stand down himself then put his support to other republicans, unless it's members of his own family standing. Basically trump doesn't give a fuck about the republican party as such, or any of the values they stand for, they have only ever just been a way for him to promote himself and his family. And he's not even that keen on his family, if he can't be the power. If he starts his own party, that will just steal so much of the vote that it'll destroy the republicans. Really, I cannot understand why the GOPs didn't convict him when they had a chance, their best route to regaining power in the shortest period possible would be to crush trump so hard that he loses his entire vote base. A plan that might have worked would be impeach & find guilty, then push some of the criminal cases forwards to get him into jail, revive the russian investigation and get him labelled as a traitor, use the opportunity to witch-hunt through the entire party and wipe out trumpism for good. The only reason I can see for the republican senate still supporting him is that they are probably all up to the neck in the corruption themselves, and any properly conducted investigation would bring down not just trump but many of the top senators... I think the dems played it perfectly. Every time the Republicans bring up law and order now,they simply wont have a leg to stand on. As for trump isnt he also going to be investigated for that Georgia telephone call isnt he? 1 of the many things I could never understand is,clearly, blatantly, he literally couldnt give a fuck about anyone else.He would happily have seen the country burn ,if it meant he got another 4 years. Yet so many Americans buy into that.. he is doing it for us nonsense. There will be alot more violence this year. Nothing changed the far right emboldened now. Kind of like the left did in the past. When did the left storm the Capitol? They just bombed it in 1983 is all guess that was ok . Violence in the 70s. It's a political cycle. Guess it's the far right turn. 1983? Did anyone die? What were they protesting about You already know those answers don't you I don’t If you don't know, how did you know it was a 'protest bombing'?" I guessed, what else would it have been? | |||
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"The scenario is not good for the republicans because whatever he does will cause their voting base to split. If they keep backing trump, then they will lose the moderates - and more importantly, lose a lot of the corporate money. He's certainly not going to stand down himself then put his support to other republicans, unless it's members of his own family standing. Basically trump doesn't give a fuck about the republican party as such, or any of the values they stand for, they have only ever just been a way for him to promote himself and his family. And he's not even that keen on his family, if he can't be the power. If he starts his own party, that will just steal so much of the vote that it'll destroy the republicans. Really, I cannot understand why the GOPs didn't convict him when they had a chance, their best route to regaining power in the shortest period possible would be to crush trump so hard that he loses his entire vote base. A plan that might have worked would be impeach & find guilty, then push some of the criminal cases forwards to get him into jail, revive the russian investigation and get him labelled as a traitor, use the opportunity to witch-hunt through the entire party and wipe out trumpism for good. The only reason I can see for the republican senate still supporting him is that they are probably all up to the neck in the corruption themselves, and any properly conducted investigation would bring down not just trump but many of the top senators... I think the dems played it perfectly. Every time the Republicans bring up law and order now,they simply wont have a leg to stand on. As for trump isnt he also going to be investigated for that Georgia telephone call isnt he? 1 of the many things I could never understand is,clearly, blatantly, he literally couldnt give a fuck about anyone else.He would happily have seen the country burn ,if it meant he got another 4 years. Yet so many Americans buy into that.. he is doing it for us nonsense. There will be alot more violence this year. Nothing changed the far right emboldened now. Kind of like the left did in the past. When did the left storm the Capitol? They just bombed it in 1983 is all guess that was ok . Violence in the 70s. It's a political cycle. Guess it's the far right turn. 1983? Did anyone die? What were they protesting about You already know those answers don't you I don’t If you don't know, how did you know it was a 'protest bombing'? I guessed, what else would it have been? " So because it's a left sided attack you automatically assume protest? | |||
"The scenario is not good for the republicans because whatever he does will cause their voting base to split. If they keep backing trump, then they will lose the moderates - and more importantly, lose a lot of the corporate money. He's certainly not going to stand down himself then put his support to other republicans, unless it's members of his own family standing. Basically trump doesn't give a fuck about the republican party as such, or any of the values they stand for, they have only ever just been a way for him to promote himself and his family. And he's not even that keen on his family, if he can't be the power. If he starts his own party, that will just steal so much of the vote that it'll destroy the republicans. Really, I cannot understand why the GOPs didn't convict him when they had a chance, their best route to regaining power in the shortest period possible would be to crush trump so hard that he loses his entire vote base. A plan that might have worked would be impeach & find guilty, then push some of the criminal cases forwards to get him into jail, revive the russian investigation and get him labelled as a traitor, use the opportunity to witch-hunt through the entire party and wipe out trumpism for good. The only reason I can see for the republican senate still supporting him is that they are probably all up to the neck in the corruption themselves, and any properly conducted investigation would bring down not just trump but many of the top senators... I think the dems played it perfectly. Every time the Republicans bring up law and order now,they simply wont have a leg to stand on. As for trump isnt he also going to be investigated for that Georgia telephone call isnt he? 1 of the many things I could never understand is,clearly, blatantly, he literally couldnt give a fuck about anyone else.He would happily have seen the country burn ,if it meant he got another 4 years. Yet so many Americans buy into that.. he is doing it for us nonsense. There will be alot more violence this year. Nothing changed the far right emboldened now. Kind of like the left did in the past. When did the left storm the Capitol? They just bombed it in 1983 is all guess that was ok . Violence in the 70s. It's a political cycle. Guess it's the far right turn. 1983? Did anyone die? What were they protesting about You already know those answers don't you I don’t If you don't know, how did you know it was a 'protest bombing'? I guessed, what else would it have been? So because it's a left sided attack you automatically assume protest?" Was it ? | |||
"The scenario is not good for the republicans because whatever he does will cause their voting base to split. If they keep backing trump, then they will lose the moderates - and more importantly, lose a lot of the corporate money. He's certainly not going to stand down himself then put his support to other republicans, unless it's members of his own family standing. Basically trump doesn't give a fuck about the republican party as such, or any of the values they stand for, they have only ever just been a way for him to promote himself and his family. And he's not even that keen on his family, if he can't be the power. If he starts his own party, that will just steal so much of the vote that it'll destroy the republicans. Really, I cannot understand why the GOPs didn't convict him when they had a chance, their best route to regaining power in the shortest period possible would be to crush trump so hard that he loses his entire vote base. A plan that might have worked would be impeach & find guilty, then push some of the criminal cases forwards to get him into jail, revive the russian investigation and get him labelled as a traitor, use the opportunity to witch-hunt through the entire party and wipe out trumpism for good. The only reason I can see for the republican senate still supporting him is that they are probably all up to the neck in the corruption themselves, and any properly conducted investigation would bring down not just trump but many of the top senators... I think the dems played it perfectly. Every time the Republicans bring up law and order now,they simply wont have a leg to stand on. As for trump isnt he also going to be investigated for that Georgia telephone call isnt he? 1 of the many things I could never understand is,clearly, blatantly, he literally couldnt give a fuck about anyone else.He would happily have seen the country burn ,if it meant he got another 4 years. Yet so many Americans buy into that.. he is doing it for us nonsense. There will be alot more violence this year. Nothing changed the far right emboldened now. Kind of like the left did in the past. When did the left storm the Capitol? They just bombed it in 1983 is all guess that was ok . Violence in the 70s. It's a political cycle. Guess it's the far right turn. 1983? Did anyone die? What were they protesting about You already know those answers don't you I don’t If you don't know, how did you know it was a 'protest bombing'? I guessed, what else would it have been? So because it's a left sided attack you automatically assume protest? Was it ? " Supposedly yeah. Although most terrorist organisations are 'protesting' about something | |||
"The scenario is not good for the republicans because whatever he does will cause their voting base to split. If they keep backing trump, then they will lose the moderates - and more importantly, lose a lot of the corporate money. He's certainly not going to stand down himself then put his support to other republicans, unless it's members of his own family standing. Basically trump doesn't give a fuck about the republican party as such, or any of the values they stand for, they have only ever just been a way for him to promote himself and his family. And he's not even that keen on his family, if he can't be the power. If he starts his own party, that will just steal so much of the vote that it'll destroy the republicans. Really, I cannot understand why the GOPs didn't convict him when they had a chance, their best route to regaining power in the shortest period possible would be to crush trump so hard that he loses his entire vote base. A plan that might have worked would be impeach & find guilty, then push some of the criminal cases forwards to get him into jail, revive the russian investigation and get him labelled as a traitor, use the opportunity to witch-hunt through the entire party and wipe out trumpism for good. The only reason I can see for the republican senate still supporting him is that they are probably all up to the neck in the corruption themselves, and any properly conducted investigation would bring down not just trump but many of the top senators... I think the dems played it perfectly. Every time the Republicans bring up law and order now,they simply wont have a leg to stand on. As for trump isnt he also going to be investigated for that Georgia telephone call isnt he? 1 of the many things I could never understand is,clearly, blatantly, he literally couldnt give a fuck about anyone else.He would happily have seen the country burn ,if it meant he got another 4 years. Yet so many Americans buy into that.. he is doing it for us nonsense. There will be alot more violence this year. Nothing changed the far right emboldened now. Kind of like the left did in the past. When did the left storm the Capitol? They just bombed it in 1983 is all guess that was ok . Violence in the 70s. It's a political cycle. Guess it's the far right turn. 1983? Did anyone die? What were they protesting about You already know those answers don't you I don’t If you don't know, how did you know it was a 'protest bombing'? I guessed, what else would it have been? So because it's a left sided attack you automatically assume protest? Was it ? Supposedly yeah. Although most terrorist organisations are 'protesting' about something" Indeed they are | |||
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"The scenario is not good for the republicans because whatever he does will cause their voting base to split. If they keep backing trump, then they will lose the moderates - and more importantly, lose a lot of the corporate money. He's certainly not going to stand down himself then put his support to other republicans, unless it's members of his own family standing. Basically trump doesn't give a fuck about the republican party as such, or any of the values they stand for, they have only ever just been a way for him to promote himself and his family. And he's not even that keen on his family, if he can't be the power. If he starts his own party, that will just steal so much of the vote that it'll destroy the republicans. Really, I cannot understand why the GOPs didn't convict him when they had a chance, their best route to regaining power in the shortest period possible would be to crush trump so hard that he loses his entire vote base. A plan that might have worked would be impeach & find guilty, then push some of the criminal cases forwards to get him into jail, revive the russian investigation and get him labelled as a traitor, use the opportunity to witch-hunt through the entire party and wipe out trumpism for good. The only reason I can see for the republican senate still supporting him is that they are probably all up to the neck in the corruption themselves, and any properly conducted investigation would bring down not just trump but many of the top senators... I think the dems played it perfectly. Every time the Republicans bring up law and order now,they simply wont have a leg to stand on. As for trump isnt he also going to be investigated for that Georgia telephone call isnt he? 1 of the many things I could never understand is,clearly, blatantly, he literally couldnt give a fuck about anyone else.He would happily have seen the country burn ,if it meant he got another 4 years. Yet so many Americans buy into that.. he is doing it for us nonsense. There will be alot more violence this year. Nothing changed the far right emboldened now. Kind of like the left did in the past. When did the left storm the Capitol? They just bombed it in 1983 is all guess that was ok . Violence in the 70s. It's a political cycle. Guess it's the far right turn. 1983? Did anyone die? What were they protesting about You already know those answers don't you I don’t If you don't know, how did you know it was a 'protest bombing'? I guessed, what else would it have been? So because it's a left sided attack you automatically assume protest? Was it ? Supposedly yeah. Although most terrorist organisations are 'protesting' about something Indeed they are " So what is the point in your questions? I'm genuinely surprised that you didn't know, you know all about the far right attacks. | |||
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"The scenario is not good for the republicans because whatever he does will cause their voting base to split. If they keep backing trump, then they will lose the moderates - and more importantly, lose a lot of the corporate money. He's certainly not going to stand down himself then put his support to other republicans, unless it's members of his own family standing. Basically trump doesn't give a fuck about the republican party as such, or any of the values they stand for, they have only ever just been a way for him to promote himself and his family. And he's not even that keen on his family, if he can't be the power. If he starts his own party, that will just steal so much of the vote that it'll destroy the republicans. Really, I cannot understand why the GOPs didn't convict him when they had a chance, their best route to regaining power in the shortest period possible would be to crush trump so hard that he loses his entire vote base. A plan that might have worked would be impeach & find guilty, then push some of the criminal cases forwards to get him into jail, revive the russian investigation and get him labelled as a traitor, use the opportunity to witch-hunt through the entire party and wipe out trumpism for good. The only reason I can see for the republican senate still supporting him is that they are probably all up to the neck in the corruption themselves, and any properly conducted investigation would bring down not just trump but many of the top senators... I think the dems played it perfectly. Every time the Republicans bring up law and order now,they simply wont have a leg to stand on. As for trump isnt he also going to be investigated for that Georgia telephone call isnt he? 1 of the many things I could never understand is,clearly, blatantly, he literally couldnt give a fuck about anyone else.He would happily have seen the country burn ,if it meant he got another 4 years. Yet so many Americans buy into that.. he is doing it for us nonsense. There will be alot more violence this year. Nothing changed the far right emboldened now. Kind of like the left did in the past. When did the left storm the Capitol? They just bombed it in 1983 is all guess that was ok . Violence in the 70s. It's a political cycle. Guess it's the far right turn. 1983? Did anyone die? What were they protesting about You already know those answers don't you I don’t If you don't know, how did you know it was a 'protest bombing'? I guessed, what else would it have been? So because it's a left sided attack you automatically assume protest? Was it ? Supposedly yeah. Although most terrorist organisations are 'protesting' about something Indeed they are So what is the point in your questions? I'm genuinely surprised that you didn't know, you know all about the far right attacks." It was a question, thanks for answering it | |||
"The scenario is not good for the republicans because whatever he does will cause their voting base to split. If they keep backing trump, then they will lose the moderates - and more importantly, lose a lot of the corporate money. He's certainly not going to stand down himself then put his support to other republicans, unless it's members of his own family standing. Basically trump doesn't give a fuck about the republican party as such, or any of the values they stand for, they have only ever just been a way for him to promote himself and his family. And he's not even that keen on his family, if he can't be the power. If he starts his own party, that will just steal so much of the vote that it'll destroy the republicans. Really, I cannot understand why the GOPs didn't convict him when they had a chance, their best route to regaining power in the shortest period possible would be to crush trump so hard that he loses his entire vote base. A plan that might have worked would be impeach & find guilty, then push some of the criminal cases forwards to get him into jail, revive the russian investigation and get him labelled as a traitor, use the opportunity to witch-hunt through the entire party and wipe out trumpism for good. The only reason I can see for the republican senate still supporting him is that they are probably all up to the neck in the corruption themselves, and any properly conducted investigation would bring down not just trump but many of the top senators... I think the dems played it perfectly. Every time the Republicans bring up law and order now,they simply wont have a leg to stand on. As for trump isnt he also going to be investigated for that Georgia telephone call isnt he? 1 of the many things I could never understand is,clearly, blatantly, he literally couldnt give a fuck about anyone else.He would happily have seen the country burn ,if it meant he got another 4 years. Yet so many Americans buy into that.. he is doing it for us nonsense. There will be alot more violence this year. Nothing changed the far right emboldened now. Kind of like the left did in the past. When did the left storm the Capitol? They just bombed it in 1983 is all guess that was ok . Violence in the 70s. It's a political cycle. Guess it's the far right turn. 1983? Did anyone die? What were they protesting about You already know those answers don't you I don’t If you don't know, how did you know it was a 'protest bombing'? I guessed, what else would it have been? So because it's a left sided attack you automatically assume protest? Was it ? Supposedly yeah. Although most terrorist organisations are 'protesting' about something Indeed they are So what is the point in your questions? I'm genuinely surprised that you didn't know, you know all about the far right attacks. It was a question, thanks for answering it " Is it ok because they were protesting against war in Lebanon? | |||
"The scenario is not good for the republicans because whatever he does will cause their voting base to split. If they keep backing trump, then they will lose the moderates - and more importantly, lose a lot of the corporate money. He's certainly not going to stand down himself then put his support to other republicans, unless it's members of his own family standing. Basically trump doesn't give a fuck about the republican party as such, or any of the values they stand for, they have only ever just been a way for him to promote himself and his family. And he's not even that keen on his family, if he can't be the power. If he starts his own party, that will just steal so much of the vote that it'll destroy the republicans. Really, I cannot understand why the GOPs didn't convict him when they had a chance, their best route to regaining power in the shortest period possible would be to crush trump so hard that he loses his entire vote base. A plan that might have worked would be impeach & find guilty, then push some of the criminal cases forwards to get him into jail, revive the russian investigation and get him labelled as a traitor, use the opportunity to witch-hunt through the entire party and wipe out trumpism for good. The only reason I can see for the republican senate still supporting him is that they are probably all up to the neck in the corruption themselves, and any properly conducted investigation would bring down not just trump but many of the top senators... I think the dems played it perfectly. Every time the Republicans bring up law and order now,they simply wont have a leg to stand on. As for trump isnt he also going to be investigated for that Georgia telephone call isnt he? 1 of the many things I could never understand is,clearly, blatantly, he literally couldnt give a fuck about anyone else.He would happily have seen the country burn ,if it meant he got another 4 years. Yet so many Americans buy into that.. he is doing it for us nonsense. There will be alot more violence this year. Nothing changed the far right emboldened now. Kind of like the left did in the past. When did the left storm the Capitol? They just bombed it in 1983 is all guess that was ok . Violence in the 70s. It's a political cycle. Guess it's the far right turn. 1983? Did anyone die? What were they protesting about You already know those answers don't you I don’t If you don't know, how did you know it was a 'protest bombing'? I guessed, what else would it have been? So because it's a left sided attack you automatically assume protest? Was it ? Supposedly yeah. Although most terrorist organisations are 'protesting' about something Indeed they are So what is the point in your questions? I'm genuinely surprised that you didn't know, you know all about the far right attacks. It was a question, thanks for answering it Is it ok because they were protesting against war in Lebanon? " No, it’s never ok to use bombs, where did I say it was? | |||
"The scenario is not good for the republicans because whatever he does will cause their voting base to split. If they keep backing trump, then they will lose the moderates - and more importantly, lose a lot of the corporate money. He's certainly not going to stand down himself then put his support to other republicans, unless it's members of his own family standing. Basically trump doesn't give a fuck about the republican party as such, or any of the values they stand for, they have only ever just been a way for him to promote himself and his family. And he's not even that keen on his family, if he can't be the power. If he starts his own party, that will just steal so much of the vote that it'll destroy the republicans. Really, I cannot understand why the GOPs didn't convict him when they had a chance, their best route to regaining power in the shortest period possible would be to crush trump so hard that he loses his entire vote base. A plan that might have worked would be impeach & find guilty, then push some of the criminal cases forwards to get him into jail, revive the russian investigation and get him labelled as a traitor, use the opportunity to witch-hunt through the entire party and wipe out trumpism for good. The only reason I can see for the republican senate still supporting him is that they are probably all up to the neck in the corruption themselves, and any properly conducted investigation would bring down not just trump but many of the top senators... I think the dems played it perfectly. Every time the Republicans bring up law and order now,they simply wont have a leg to stand on. As for trump isnt he also going to be investigated for that Georgia telephone call isnt he? 1 of the many things I could never understand is,clearly, blatantly, he literally couldnt give a fuck about anyone else.He would happily have seen the country burn ,if it meant he got another 4 years. Yet so many Americans buy into that.. he is doing it for us nonsense. There will be alot more violence this year. Nothing changed the far right emboldened now. Kind of like the left did in the past. When did the left storm the Capitol? They just bombed it in 1983 is all guess that was ok . Violence in the 70s. It's a political cycle. Guess it's the far right turn. 1983? Did anyone die? What were they protesting about You already know those answers don't you I don’t If you don't know, how did you know it was a 'protest bombing'? I guessed, what else would it have been? So because it's a left sided attack you automatically assume protest? Was it ? Supposedly yeah. Although most terrorist organisations are 'protesting' about something Indeed they are So what is the point in your questions? I'm genuinely surprised that you didn't know, you know all about the far right attacks. It was a question, thanks for answering it Is it ok because they were protesting against war in Lebanon? No, it’s never ok to use bombs, where did I say it was? " So why the questions? It would be way quicker to Google. BTW, as a side note, did you know that one of those convicted terrorists sits on the board of a BLM fundraising arm? | |||
"The scenario is not good for the republicans because whatever he does will cause their voting base to split. If they keep backing trump, then they will lose the moderates - and more importantly, lose a lot of the corporate money. He's certainly not going to stand down himself then put his support to other republicans, unless it's members of his own family standing. Basically trump doesn't give a fuck about the republican party as such, or any of the values they stand for, they have only ever just been a way for him to promote himself and his family. And he's not even that keen on his family, if he can't be the power. If he starts his own party, that will just steal so much of the vote that it'll destroy the republicans. Really, I cannot understand why the GOPs didn't convict him when they had a chance, their best route to regaining power in the shortest period possible would be to crush trump so hard that he loses his entire vote base. A plan that might have worked would be impeach & find guilty, then push some of the criminal cases forwards to get him into jail, revive the russian investigation and get him labelled as a traitor, use the opportunity to witch-hunt through the entire party and wipe out trumpism for good. The only reason I can see for the republican senate still supporting him is that they are probably all up to the neck in the corruption themselves, and any properly conducted investigation would bring down not just trump but many of the top senators... I think the dems played it perfectly. Every time the Republicans bring up law and order now,they simply wont have a leg to stand on. As for trump isnt he also going to be investigated for that Georgia telephone call isnt he? 1 of the many things I could never understand is,clearly, blatantly, he literally couldnt give a fuck about anyone else.He would happily have seen the country burn ,if it meant he got another 4 years. Yet so many Americans buy into that.. he is doing it for us nonsense. There will be alot more violence this year. Nothing changed the far right emboldened now. Kind of like the left did in the past. When did the left storm the Capitol? They just bombed it in 1983 is all guess that was ok . Violence in the 70s. It's a political cycle. Guess it's the far right turn. 1983? Did anyone die? What were they protesting about You already know those answers don't you I don’t If you don't know, how did you know it was a 'protest bombing'? I guessed, what else would it have been? So because it's a left sided attack you automatically assume protest? Was it ? Supposedly yeah. Although most terrorist organisations are 'protesting' about something Indeed they are So what is the point in your questions? I'm genuinely surprised that you didn't know, you know all about the far right attacks. It was a question, thanks for answering it Is it ok because they were protesting against war in Lebanon? No, it’s never ok to use bombs, where did I say it was? So why the questions? It would be way quicker to Google. BTW, as a side note, did you know that one of those convicted terrorists sits on the board of a BLM fundraising arm?" I didn’t know that, that is fascinating | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/the-greatest-threat-to-donald-trump-now-is-probably-the-law-12218599 He has still got a whole load of doo doo to come." Trump is finished , people who think he will run for president in 2024 are deluded | |||
"The scenario is not good for the republicans because whatever he does will cause their voting base to split. If they keep backing trump, then they will lose the moderates - and more importantly, lose a lot of the corporate money. He's certainly not going to stand down himself then put his support to other republicans, unless it's members of his own family standing. Basically trump doesn't give a fuck about the republican party as such, or any of the values they stand for, they have only ever just been a way for him to promote himself and his family. And he's not even that keen on his family, if he can't be the power. If he starts his own party, that will just steal so much of the vote that it'll destroy the republicans. Really, I cannot understand why the GOPs didn't convict him when they had a chance, their best route to regaining power in the shortest period possible would be to crush trump so hard that he loses his entire vote base. A plan that might have worked would be impeach & find guilty, then push some of the criminal cases forwards to get him into jail, revive the russian investigation and get him labelled as a traitor, use the opportunity to witch-hunt through the entire party and wipe out trumpism for good. The only reason I can see for the republican senate still supporting him is that they are probably all up to the neck in the corruption themselves, and any properly conducted investigation would bring down not just trump but many of the top senators... I think the dems played it perfectly. Every time the Republicans bring up law and order now,they simply wont have a leg to stand on. As for trump isnt he also going to be investigated for that Georgia telephone call isnt he? 1 of the many things I could never understand is,clearly, blatantly, he literally couldnt give a fuck about anyone else.He would happily have seen the country burn ,if it meant he got another 4 years. Yet so many Americans buy into that.. he is doing it for us nonsense. There will be alot more violence this year. Nothing changed the far right emboldened now. Kind of like the left did in the past. When did the left storm the Capitol? They just bombed it in 1983 is all guess that was ok . Violence in the 70s. It's a political cycle. Guess it's the far right turn. 1983? Did anyone die? What were they protesting about You already know those answers don't you I don’t If you don't know, how did you know it was a 'protest bombing'? I guessed, what else would it have been? So because it's a left sided attack you automatically assume protest? Was it ? Supposedly yeah. Although most terrorist organisations are 'protesting' about something Indeed they are So what is the point in your questions? I'm genuinely surprised that you didn't know, you know all about the far right attacks. It was a question, thanks for answering it Is it ok because they were protesting against war in Lebanon? No, it’s never ok to use bombs, where did I say it was? So why the questions? It would be way quicker to Google. BTW, as a side note, did you know that one of those convicted terrorists sits on the board of a BLM fundraising arm? I didn’t know that, that is fascinating " It's all good though, there's really no such thing as a left wing terrorist | |||
"https://news.sky.com/story/the-greatest-threat-to-donald-trump-now-is-probably-the-law-12218599 He has still got a whole load of doo doo to come. Trump is finished , people who think he will run for president in 2024 are deluded " Agreed 100% | |||
"The scenario is not good for the republicans because whatever he does will cause their voting base to split. If they keep backing trump, then they will lose the moderates - and more importantly, lose a lot of the corporate money. He's certainly not going to stand down himself then put his support to other republicans, unless it's members of his own family standing. Basically trump doesn't give a fuck about the republican party as such, or any of the values they stand for, they have only ever just been a way for him to promote himself and his family. And he's not even that keen on his family, if he can't be the power. If he starts his own party, that will just steal so much of the vote that it'll destroy the republicans. Really, I cannot understand why the GOPs didn't convict him when they had a chance, their best route to regaining power in the shortest period possible would be to crush trump so hard that he loses his entire vote base. A plan that might have worked would be impeach & find guilty, then push some of the criminal cases forwards to get him into jail, revive the russian investigation and get him labelled as a traitor, use the opportunity to witch-hunt through the entire party and wipe out trumpism for good. The only reason I can see for the republican senate still supporting him is that they are probably all up to the neck in the corruption themselves, and any properly conducted investigation would bring down not just trump but many of the top senators... I think the dems played it perfectly. Every time the Republicans bring up law and order now,they simply wont have a leg to stand on. As for trump isnt he also going to be investigated for that Georgia telephone call isnt he? 1 of the many things I could never understand is,clearly, blatantly, he literally couldnt give a fuck about anyone else.He would happily have seen the country burn ,if it meant he got another 4 years. Yet so many Americans buy into that.. he is doing it for us nonsense. There will be alot more violence this year. Nothing changed the far right emboldened now. Kind of like the left did in the past. When did the left storm the Capitol? They just bombed it in 1983 is all guess that was ok . Violence in the 70s. It's a political cycle. Guess it's the far right turn. 1983? Did anyone die? What were they protesting about You already know those answers don't you I don’t If you don't know, how did you know it was a 'protest bombing'? I guessed, what else would it have been? So because it's a left sided attack you automatically assume protest? Was it ? Supposedly yeah. Although most terrorist organisations are 'protesting' about something Indeed they are So what is the point in your questions? I'm genuinely surprised that you didn't know, you know all about the far right attacks. It was a question, thanks for answering it Is it ok because they were protesting against war in Lebanon? No, it’s never ok to use bombs, where did I say it was? So why the questions? It would be way quicker to Google. BTW, as a side note, did you know that one of those convicted terrorists sits on the board of a BLM fundraising arm? I didn’t know that, that is fascinating It's all good though, there's really no such thing as a left wing terrorist " Who told you that? | |||
"The scenario is not good for the republicans because whatever he does will cause their voting base to split. If they keep backing trump, then they will lose the moderates - and more importantly, lose a lot of the corporate money. He's certainly not going to stand down himself then put his support to other republicans, unless it's members of his own family standing. Basically trump doesn't give a fuck about the republican party as such, or any of the values they stand for, they have only ever just been a way for him to promote himself and his family. And he's not even that keen on his family, if he can't be the power. If he starts his own party, that will just steal so much of the vote that it'll destroy the republicans. Really, I cannot understand why the GOPs didn't convict him when they had a chance, their best route to regaining power in the shortest period possible would be to crush trump so hard that he loses his entire vote base. A plan that might have worked would be impeach & find guilty, then push some of the criminal cases forwards to get him into jail, revive the russian investigation and get him labelled as a traitor, use the opportunity to witch-hunt through the entire party and wipe out trumpism for good. The only reason I can see for the republican senate still supporting him is that they are probably all up to the neck in the corruption themselves, and any properly conducted investigation would bring down not just trump but many of the top senators... I think the dems played it perfectly. Every time the Republicans bring up law and order now,they simply wont have a leg to stand on. As for trump isnt he also going to be investigated for that Georgia telephone call isnt he? 1 of the many things I could never understand is,clearly, blatantly, he literally couldnt give a fuck about anyone else.He would happily have seen the country burn ,if it meant he got another 4 years. Yet so many Americans buy into that.. he is doing it for us nonsense. There will be alot more violence this year. Nothing changed the far right emboldened now. Kind of like the left did in the past. When did the left storm the Capitol? They just bombed it in 1983 is all guess that was ok . Violence in the 70s. It's a political cycle. Guess it's the far right turn. 1983? Did anyone die? What were they protesting about You already know those answers don't you I don’t If you don't know, how did you know it was a 'protest bombing'? I guessed, what else would it have been? So because it's a left sided attack you automatically assume protest? Was it ? Supposedly yeah. Although most terrorist organisations are 'protesting' about something Indeed they are So what is the point in your questions? I'm genuinely surprised that you didn't know, you know all about the far right attacks. It was a question, thanks for answering it Is it ok because they were protesting against war in Lebanon? No, it’s never ok to use bombs, where did I say it was? So why the questions? It would be way quicker to Google. BTW, as a side note, did you know that one of those convicted terrorists sits on the board of a BLM fundraising arm? I didn’t know that, that is fascinating It's all good though, there's really no such thing as a left wing terrorist " Both sides are still here it's just a repeatedly constant. My view your view violence Violence.Pretty much sums it up. | |||
"The scenario is not good for the republicans because whatever he does will cause their voting base to split. If they keep backing trump, then they will lose the moderates - and more importantly, lose a lot of the corporate money. He's certainly not going to stand down himself then put his support to other republicans, unless it's members of his own family standing. Basically trump doesn't give a fuck about the republican party as such, or any of the values they stand for, they have only ever just been a way for him to promote himself and his family. And he's not even that keen on his family, if he can't be the power. If he starts his own party, that will just steal so much of the vote that it'll destroy the republicans. Really, I cannot understand why the GOPs didn't convict him when they had a chance, their best route to regaining power in the shortest period possible would be to crush trump so hard that he loses his entire vote base. A plan that might have worked would be impeach & find guilty, then push some of the criminal cases forwards to get him into jail, revive the russian investigation and get him labelled as a traitor, use the opportunity to witch-hunt through the entire party and wipe out trumpism for good. The only reason I can see for the republican senate still supporting him is that they are probably all up to the neck in the corruption themselves, and any properly conducted investigation would bring down not just trump but many of the top senators... I think the dems played it perfectly. Every time the Republicans bring up law and order now,they simply wont have a leg to stand on. As for trump isnt he also going to be investigated for that Georgia telephone call isnt he? 1 of the many things I could never understand is,clearly, blatantly, he literally couldnt give a fuck about anyone else.He would happily have seen the country burn ,if it meant he got another 4 years. Yet so many Americans buy into that.. he is doing it for us nonsense. There will be alot more violence this year. Nothing changed the far right emboldened now. Kind of like the left did in the past. When did the left storm the Capitol? They just bombed it in 1983 is all guess that was ok . Violence in the 70s. It's a political cycle. Guess it's the far right turn. 1983? Did anyone die? What were they protesting about You already know those answers don't you I don’t If you don't know, how did you know it was a 'protest bombing'? I guessed, what else would it have been? So because it's a left sided attack you automatically assume protest? Was it ? Supposedly yeah. Although most terrorist organisations are 'protesting' about something Indeed they are So what is the point in your questions? I'm genuinely surprised that you didn't know, you know all about the far right attacks. It was a question, thanks for answering it Is it ok because they were protesting against war in Lebanon? No, it’s never ok to use bombs, where did I say it was? So why the questions? It would be way quicker to Google. BTW, as a side note, did you know that one of those convicted terrorists sits on the board of a BLM fundraising arm? I didn’t know that, that is fascinating It's all good though, there's really no such thing as a left wing terrorist Both sides are still here it's just a repeatedly constant. My view your view violence Violence.Pretty much sums it up. " Do the trump fanatics still think the election was stolen? | |||
"The scenario is not good for the republicans because whatever he does will cause their voting base to split. If they keep backing trump, then they will lose the moderates - and more importantly, lose a lot of the corporate money. He's certainly not going to stand down himself then put his support to other republicans, unless it's members of his own family standing. Basically trump doesn't give a fuck about the republican party as such, or any of the values they stand for, they have only ever just been a way for him to promote himself and his family. And he's not even that keen on his family, if he can't be the power. If he starts his own party, that will just steal so much of the vote that it'll destroy the republicans. Really, I cannot understand why the GOPs didn't convict him when they had a chance, their best route to regaining power in the shortest period possible would be to crush trump so hard that he loses his entire vote base. A plan that might have worked would be impeach & find guilty, then push some of the criminal cases forwards to get him into jail, revive the russian investigation and get him labelled as a traitor, use the opportunity to witch-hunt through the entire party and wipe out trumpism for good. The only reason I can see for the republican senate still supporting him is that they are probably all up to the neck in the corruption themselves, and any properly conducted investigation would bring down not just trump but many of the top senators... I think the dems played it perfectly. Every time the Republicans bring up law and order now,they simply wont have a leg to stand on. As for trump isnt he also going to be investigated for that Georgia telephone call isnt he? 1 of the many things I could never understand is,clearly, blatantly, he literally couldnt give a fuck about anyone else.He would happily have seen the country burn ,if it meant he got another 4 years. Yet so many Americans buy into that.. he is doing it for us nonsense. There will be alot more violence this year. Nothing changed the far right emboldened now. Kind of like the left did in the past. When did the left storm the Capitol? They just bombed it in 1983 is all guess that was ok . Violence in the 70s. It's a political cycle. Guess it's the far right turn. 1983? Did anyone die? What were they protesting about You already know those answers don't you I don’t If you don't know, how did you know it was a 'protest bombing'? I guessed, what else would it have been? So because it's a left sided attack you automatically assume protest? Was it ? Supposedly yeah. Although most terrorist organisations are 'protesting' about something Indeed they are So what is the point in your questions? I'm genuinely surprised that you didn't know, you know all about the far right attacks. It was a question, thanks for answering it Is it ok because they were protesting against war in Lebanon? No, it’s never ok to use bombs, where did I say it was? So why the questions? It would be way quicker to Google. BTW, as a side note, did you know that one of those convicted terrorists sits on the board of a BLM fundraising arm? I didn’t know that, that is fascinating It's all good though, there's really no such thing as a left wing terrorist Who told you that?" It's been said here quite often lately. You don't agree with that? | |||
" Do the trump fanatics still think the election was stolen? " lol. Most Americans believe that if you don't understand, it you should shoot it. | |||
"The scenario is not good for the republicans because whatever he does will cause their voting base to split. If they keep backing trump, then they will lose the moderates - and more importantly, lose a lot of the corporate money. He's certainly not going to stand down himself then put his support to other republicans, unless it's members of his own family standing. Basically trump doesn't give a fuck about the republican party as such, or any of the values they stand for, they have only ever just been a way for him to promote himself and his family. And he's not even that keen on his family, if he can't be the power. If he starts his own party, that will just steal so much of the vote that it'll destroy the republicans. Really, I cannot understand why the GOPs didn't convict him when they had a chance, their best route to regaining power in the shortest period possible would be to crush trump so hard that he loses his entire vote base. A plan that might have worked would be impeach & find guilty, then push some of the criminal cases forwards to get him into jail, revive the russian investigation and get him labelled as a traitor, use the opportunity to witch-hunt through the entire party and wipe out trumpism for good. The only reason I can see for the republican senate still supporting him is that they are probably all up to the neck in the corruption themselves, and any properly conducted investigation would bring down not just trump but many of the top senators... I think the dems played it perfectly. Every time the Republicans bring up law and order now,they simply wont have a leg to stand on. As for trump isnt he also going to be investigated for that Georgia telephone call isnt he? 1 of the many things I could never understand is,clearly, blatantly, he literally couldnt give a fuck about anyone else.He would happily have seen the country burn ,if it meant he got another 4 years. Yet so many Americans buy into that.. he is doing it for us nonsense. There will be alot more violence this year. Nothing changed the far right emboldened now. Kind of like the left did in the past. When did the left storm the Capitol? They just bombed it in 1983 is all guess that was ok . Violence in the 70s. It's a political cycle. Guess it's the far right turn. 1983? Did anyone die? What were they protesting about You already know those answers don't you I don’t If you don't know, how did you know it was a 'protest bombing'? I guessed, what else would it have been? So because it's a left sided attack you automatically assume protest? Was it ? Supposedly yeah. Although most terrorist organisations are 'protesting' about something Indeed they are So what is the point in your questions? I'm genuinely surprised that you didn't know, you know all about the far right attacks. It was a question, thanks for answering it Is it ok because they were protesting against war in Lebanon? No, it’s never ok to use bombs, where did I say it was? So why the questions? It would be way quicker to Google. BTW, as a side note, did you know that one of those convicted terrorists sits on the board of a BLM fundraising arm? I didn’t know that, that is fascinating It's all good though, there's really no such thing as a left wing terrorist Both sides are still here it's just a repeatedly constant. My view your view violence Violence.Pretty much sums it up. Do the trump fanatics still think the election was stolen? " Some still do doubt that is going to change. That is why national guard is staying in DC for awhile. | |||
"The scenario is not good for the republicans because whatever he does will cause their voting base to split. If they keep backing trump, then they will lose the moderates - and more importantly, lose a lot of the corporate money. He's certainly not going to stand down himself then put his support to other republicans, unless it's members of his own family standing. Basically trump doesn't give a fuck about the republican party as such, or any of the values they stand for, they have only ever just been a way for him to promote himself and his family. And he's not even that keen on his family, if he can't be the power. If he starts his own party, that will just steal so much of the vote that it'll destroy the republicans. Really, I cannot understand why the GOPs didn't convict him when they had a chance, their best route to regaining power in the shortest period possible would be to crush trump so hard that he loses his entire vote base. A plan that might have worked would be impeach & find guilty, then push some of the criminal cases forwards to get him into jail, revive the russian investigation and get him labelled as a traitor, use the opportunity to witch-hunt through the entire party and wipe out trumpism for good. The only reason I can see for the republican senate still supporting him is that they are probably all up to the neck in the corruption themselves, and any properly conducted investigation would bring down not just trump but many of the top senators... I think the dems played it perfectly. Every time the Republicans bring up law and order now,they simply wont have a leg to stand on. As for trump isnt he also going to be investigated for that Georgia telephone call isnt he? 1 of the many things I could never understand is,clearly, blatantly, he literally couldnt give a fuck about anyone else.He would happily have seen the country burn ,if it meant he got another 4 years. Yet so many Americans buy into that.. he is doing it for us nonsense. There will be alot more violence this year. Nothing changed the far right emboldened now. Kind of like the left did in the past. When did the left storm the Capitol? They just bombed it in 1983 is all guess that was ok . Violence in the 70s. It's a political cycle. Guess it's the far right turn. 1983? Did anyone die? What were they protesting about You already know those answers don't you I don’t If you don't know, how did you know it was a 'protest bombing'? I guessed, what else would it have been? So because it's a left sided attack you automatically assume protest? Was it ? Supposedly yeah. Although most terrorist organisations are 'protesting' about something Indeed they are So what is the point in your questions? I'm genuinely surprised that you didn't know, you know all about the far right attacks. It was a question, thanks for answering it Is it ok because they were protesting against war in Lebanon? No, it’s never ok to use bombs, where did I say it was? So why the questions? It would be way quicker to Google. BTW, as a side note, did you know that one of those convicted terrorists sits on the board of a BLM fundraising arm? I didn’t know that, that is fascinating It's all good though, there's really no such thing as a left wing terrorist Who told you that? It's been said here quite often lately. You don't agree with that?" Agree with what? | |||
"The scenario is not good for the republicans because whatever he does will cause their voting base to split. If they keep backing trump, then they will lose the moderates - and more importantly, lose a lot of the corporate money. He's certainly not going to stand down himself then put his support to other republicans, unless it's members of his own family standing. Basically trump doesn't give a fuck about the republican party as such, or any of the values they stand for, they have only ever just been a way for him to promote himself and his family. And he's not even that keen on his family, if he can't be the power. If he starts his own party, that will just steal so much of the vote that it'll destroy the republicans. Really, I cannot understand why the GOPs didn't convict him when they had a chance, their best route to regaining power in the shortest period possible would be to crush trump so hard that he loses his entire vote base. A plan that might have worked would be impeach & find guilty, then push some of the criminal cases forwards to get him into jail, revive the russian investigation and get him labelled as a traitor, use the opportunity to witch-hunt through the entire party and wipe out trumpism for good. The only reason I can see for the republican senate still supporting him is that they are probably all up to the neck in the corruption themselves, and any properly conducted investigation would bring down not just trump but many of the top senators... I think the dems played it perfectly. Every time the Republicans bring up law and order now,they simply wont have a leg to stand on. As for trump isnt he also going to be investigated for that Georgia telephone call isnt he? 1 of the many things I could never understand is,clearly, blatantly, he literally couldnt give a fuck about anyone else.He would happily have seen the country burn ,if it meant he got another 4 years. Yet so many Americans buy into that.. he is doing it for us nonsense. There will be alot more violence this year. Nothing changed the far right emboldened now. Kind of like the left did in the past. When did the left storm the Capitol? They just bombed it in 1983 is all guess that was ok . Violence in the 70s. It's a political cycle. Guess it's the far right turn. 1983? Did anyone die? What were they protesting about You already know those answers don't you I don’t If you don't know, how did you know it was a 'protest bombing'? I guessed, what else would it have been? So because it's a left sided attack you automatically assume protest? Was it ? Supposedly yeah. Although most terrorist organisations are 'protesting' about something Indeed they are So what is the point in your questions? I'm genuinely surprised that you didn't know, you know all about the far right attacks. It was a question, thanks for answering it Is it ok because they were protesting against war in Lebanon? No, it’s never ok to use bombs, where did I say it was? So why the questions? It would be way quicker to Google. BTW, as a side note, did you know that one of those convicted terrorists sits on the board of a BLM fundraising arm? I didn’t know that, that is fascinating It's all good though, there's really no such thing as a left wing terrorist Both sides are still here it's just a repeatedly constant. My view your view violence Violence.Pretty much sums it up. Do the trump fanatics still think the election was stolen? Some still do doubt that is going to change. That is why national guard is staying in DC for awhile." That is so sad, it must be terrible to be so deluded , | |||
"The scenario is not good for the republicans because whatever he does will cause their voting base to split. If they keep backing trump, then they will lose the moderates - and more importantly, lose a lot of the corporate money. He's certainly not going to stand down himself then put his support to other republicans, unless it's members of his own family standing. Basically trump doesn't give a fuck about the republican party as such, or any of the values they stand for, they have only ever just been a way for him to promote himself and his family. And he's not even that keen on his family, if he can't be the power. If he starts his own party, that will just steal so much of the vote that it'll destroy the republicans. Really, I cannot understand why the GOPs didn't convict him when they had a chance, their best route to regaining power in the shortest period possible would be to crush trump so hard that he loses his entire vote base. A plan that might have worked would be impeach & find guilty, then push some of the criminal cases forwards to get him into jail, revive the russian investigation and get him labelled as a traitor, use the opportunity to witch-hunt through the entire party and wipe out trumpism for good. The only reason I can see for the republican senate still supporting him is that they are probably all up to the neck in the corruption themselves, and any properly conducted investigation would bring down not just trump but many of the top senators... I think the dems played it perfectly. Every time the Republicans bring up law and order now,they simply wont have a leg to stand on. As for trump isnt he also going to be investigated for that Georgia telephone call isnt he? 1 of the many things I could never understand is,clearly, blatantly, he literally couldnt give a fuck about anyone else.He would happily have seen the country burn ,if it meant he got another 4 years. Yet so many Americans buy into that.. he is doing it for us nonsense. There will be alot more violence this year. Nothing changed the far right emboldened now. Kind of like the left did in the past. When did the left storm the Capitol? They just bombed it in 1983 is all guess that was ok . Violence in the 70s. It's a political cycle. Guess it's the far right turn. 1983? Did anyone die? What were they protesting about You already know those answers don't you I don’t If you don't know, how did you know it was a 'protest bombing'? I guessed, what else would it have been? So because it's a left sided attack you automatically assume protest? Was it ? Supposedly yeah. Although most terrorist organisations are 'protesting' about something Indeed they are So what is the point in your questions? I'm genuinely surprised that you didn't know, you know all about the far right attacks. It was a question, thanks for answering it Is it ok because they were protesting against war in Lebanon? No, it’s never ok to use bombs, where did I say it was? So why the questions? It would be way quicker to Google. BTW, as a side note, did you know that one of those convicted terrorists sits on the board of a BLM fundraising arm? I didn’t know that, that is fascinating It's all good though, there's really no such thing as a left wing terrorist Who told you that? It's been said here quite often lately. You don't agree with that? Agree with what? " Do you agree that there is no such things as a left sided terrorist? | |||
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"Some serious Trump obsession in here. " The thread is about Trump | |||
"Some serious Trump obsession in here. The thread is about Trump " It ok to talk about him ? | |||
"Some serious Trump obsession in here. The thread is about Trump It ok to talk about him ? " Who? | |||
"Some serious Trump obsession in here. The thread is about Trump It ok to talk about him ? " Yeah, | |||
"Some serious Trump obsession in here. The thread is about Trump It ok to talk about him ? Yeah, " He has gone why should it bother you isnt this your usual response to anyone mentioning anything about the eu? | |||
"Some serious Trump obsession in here. The thread is about Trump It ok to talk about him ? Yeah, He has gone why should it bother you isnt this your usual response to anyone mentioning anything about the eu? " Yea he has gone, what is your point ? | |||
"Some serious Trump obsession in here. The thread is about Trump It ok to talk about him ? Yeah, He has gone why should it bother you isnt this your usual response to anyone mentioning anything about the eu? Yea he has gone, what is your point ? " I think you see my point but choose not to pot and kettle spring to mind. | |||
"Some serious Trump obsession in here. The thread is about Trump It ok to talk about him ? Yeah, He has gone why should it bother you isnt this your usual response to anyone mentioning anything about the eu? Yea he has gone, what is your point ? I think you see my point but choose not to pot and kettle spring to mind. " Not at all, I am interested in Trump and what he tries to do next, I couldn’t care less about the EU | |||
" I couldn’t care less about the EU " . . . au contraire! | |||
"Some serious Trump obsession in here. The thread is about Trump It ok to talk about him ? Yeah, He has gone why should it bother you isnt this your usual response to anyone mentioning anything about the eu? Yea he has gone, what is your point ? I think you see my point but choose not to pot and kettle spring to mind. Not at all, I am interested in Trump and what he tries to do next, I couldn’t care less about the EU " ok great so next time you ask me i only have to say im interested in what the eu are doing.Thanks thats cleared that up. | |||
"Some serious Trump obsession in here. The thread is about Trump It ok to talk about him ? Yeah, He has gone why should it bother you isnt this your usual response to anyone mentioning anything about the eu? Yea he has gone, what is your point ? I think you see my point but choose not to pot and kettle spring to mind. Not at all, I am interested in Trump and what he tries to do next, I couldn’t care less about the EU " You care enough to comment on EU posts everyday BTW, care to answer the question I asked you? | |||
"Some serious Trump obsession in here. The thread is about Trump It ok to talk about him ? Yeah, He has gone why should it bother you isnt this your usual response to anyone mentioning anything about the eu? Yea he has gone, what is your point ? I think you see my point but choose not to pot and kettle spring to mind. Not at all, I am interested in Trump and what he tries to do next, I couldn’t care less about the EU ok great so next time you ask me i only have to say im interested in what the eu are doing.Thanks thats cleared that up. " Of course , that is your prerogative, I think it will take a while before your interest in the EU starts to decline | |||
"Some serious Trump obsession in here. The thread is about Trump It ok to talk about him ? Yeah, He has gone why should it bother you isnt this your usual response to anyone mentioning anything about the eu? Yea he has gone, what is your point ? I think you see my point but choose not to pot and kettle spring to mind. Not at all, I am interested in Trump and what he tries to do next, I couldn’t care less about the EU You care enough to comment on EU posts everyday BTW, care to answer the question I asked you?" he only answers easy ones mate l | |||
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"Some serious Trump obsession in here. The thread is about Trump It ok to talk about him ? Yeah, He has gone why should it bother you isnt this your usual response to anyone mentioning anything about the eu? Yea he has gone, what is your point ? I think you see my point but choose not to pot and kettle spring to mind. Not at all, I am interested in Trump and what he tries to do next, I couldn’t care less about the EU You care enough to comment on EU posts everyday BTW, care to answer the question I asked you?" What question? I haven’t commented directly on EU threads, my question is always why leave voters care , I am more concerned with Brexit and how it effects the UK | |||
"Some serious Trump obsession in here. The thread is about Trump It ok to talk about him ? Yeah, He has gone why should it bother you isnt this your usual response to anyone mentioning anything about the eu? Yea he has gone, what is your point ? I think you see my point but choose not to pot and kettle spring to mind. Not at all, I am interested in Trump and what he tries to do next, I couldn’t care less about the EU You care enough to comment on EU posts everyday BTW, care to answer the question I asked you? What question? I haven’t commented directly on EU threads, my question is always why leave voters care , I am more concerned with Brexit and how it effects the UK " | |||
"Some serious Trump obsession in here. The thread is about Trump It ok to talk about him ? Yeah, He has gone why should it bother you isnt this your usual response to anyone mentioning anything about the eu? Yea he has gone, what is your point ? " You are duly obligated to menton/blame the eu thread under the sun It's in the small print. | |||
"Some serious Trump obsession in here. " Probally something to do with him inciting a riot and being the only president to be impeached twice. | |||
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"But everybody should be interested in every country around the World, after all we are one World. Most countries affect their closest neighbours - some countries affect the whole World. To pretend we live in isolation is the first mistake of fight club - the second mistake of fight club is to pretend there is no fight club." We should be interested in our own country first and matters that effect this country | |||
"But everybody should be interested in every country around the World, after all we are one World. Most countries affect their closest neighbours - some countries affect the whole World. To pretend we live in isolation is the first mistake of fight club - the second mistake of fight club is to pretend there is no fight club.We should be interested in our own country first and matters that effect this country" Some of us do not want to effect your country but yet here we are arguing US effects on other countries. | |||
"Some serious Trump obsession in here. Probally something to do with him inciting a riot and being the only president to be impeached twice." And not found guilty twice, hence did not incite! And now entitled to claim witch hunt lol if the police arrested you twice and both times you walked away you could quite rightly start to feel a victim! | |||
"Some serious Trump obsession in here. Probally something to do with him inciting a riot and being the only president to be impeached twice. And not found guilty twice, hence did not incite! And now entitled to claim witch hunt lol if the police arrested you twice and both times you walked away you could quite rightly start to feel a victim! " Maga means now. My Ass Got Aquittal 2 time reigning champ.lol | |||
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"The Republican Party is becoming unelectable. The main take aways from this entire situation is this: 1. The Republicans appear to be soft on Crime. 2. Instead of being a fully inclusive party they are being held captive by the far right and cannot regain the centre right. 3. There are many Republicans trying to become the new trump and courting him to make them appealing to his base. 4. They are losing corporate support considering they are supposed to be a party of business. 5. There is an internal civil war in the Republican Party between moderates and extremists. 6. Money is haemorrhaging from its coffers, which would be used to campaign for 2022 From the outside it looks like the Republicans are heading to the political wilderness. They need a great deal of reflection on how they want to appeal to the electorate, because at this present time they ain’t going nowhere. Until they can provide a way to " Alot of democratic governors are swaying the vote the other way. 2 of the biggest election states. Not worried at all. Dead elderly are far more important than a attack on the Capitol. Incoming more lies from the other side | |||
" Do the trump fanatics still think the election was stolen? lol. Most Americans believe that if you don't understand, it you should shoot it." It’s really easy to dismiss a lot of Trumps supporters as fanatics and lunatics but I think people do that at their own peril. MAGA isn’t going anywhere that much is clear, and he still got over 75 million votes (largely on polling day). I also think after an embarrassing impeachment trial, as well as the Time Magazine article, theres going to be little in the diminishment of support for if it’s Trump, then MAGA as it’s own movement itself. | |||
"Will people who I have blocked please refrain from answering my posts on here otherwise they will get banned, thanks " What does this mean? People who you’ve blocked are not allowed to answer a public post you’ve put in a public forum? | |||
" Do the trump fanatics still think the election was stolen? lol. Most Americans believe that if you don't understand, it you should shoot it. It’s really easy to dismiss a lot of Trumps supporters as fanatics and lunatics but I think people do that at their own peril. MAGA isn’t going anywhere that much is clear, and he still got over 75 million votes (largely on polling day). I also think after an embarrassing impeachment trial, as well as the Time Magazine article, theres going to be little in the diminishment of support for if it’s Trump, then MAGA as it’s own movement itself. " So is qanon | |||
" Do the trump fanatics still think the election was stolen? lol. Most Americans believe that if you don't understand, it you should shoot it. It’s really easy to dismiss a lot of Trumps supporters as fanatics and lunatics but I think people do that at their own peril. MAGA isn’t going anywhere that much is clear, and he still got over 75 million votes (largely on polling day). I also think after an embarrassing impeachment trial, as well as the Time Magazine article, theres going to be little in the diminishment of support for if it’s Trump, then MAGA as it’s own movement itself. " Why was the impeachment trial embarrassing? No one thought it was going to get a conviction. The purpose was to highlight Republican hypocrisy. I agree that Trump isn't a cause of, he's more of a symptom. And there is a genuine concern that another lunatic conspiracy theorist could come in and pick up where he left off. But that's more of a worry for the Republicans than it is for anyone else. | |||
" Do the trump fanatics still think the election was stolen? lol. Most Americans believe that if you don't understand, it you should shoot it. It’s really easy to dismiss a lot of Trumps supporters as fanatics and lunatics but I think people do that at their own peril. MAGA isn’t going anywhere that much is clear, and he still got over 75 million votes (largely on polling day). I also think after an embarrassing impeachment trial, as well as the Time Magazine article, theres going to be little in the diminishment of support for if it’s Trump, then MAGA as it’s own movement itself. Why was the impeachment trial embarrassing? No one thought it was going to get a conviction. The purpose was to highlight Republican hypocrisy. I agree that Trump isn't a cause of, he's more of a symptom. And there is a genuine concern that another lunatic conspiracy theorist could come in and pick up where he left off. But that's more of a worry for the Republicans than it is for anyone else. " It seems people to try to overthrow electins shouod be above the law. | |||
" Do the trump fanatics still think the election was stolen? lol. Most Americans believe that if you don't understand, it you should shoot it. It’s really easy to dismiss a lot of Trumps supporters as fanatics and lunatics but I think people do that at their own peril. MAGA isn’t going anywhere that much is clear, and he still got over 75 million votes (largely on polling day). I also think after an embarrassing impeachment trial, as well as the Time Magazine article, theres going to be little in the diminishment of support for if it’s Trump, then MAGA as it’s own movement itself. Why was the impeachment trial embarrassing? No one thought it was going to get a conviction. The purpose was to highlight Republican hypocrisy. I agree that Trump isn't a cause of, he's more of a symptom. And there is a genuine concern that another lunatic conspiracy theorist could come in and pick up where he left off. But that's more of a worry for the Republicans than it is for anyone else. It seems people to try to overthrow electins shouod be above the law." Well, he is ultra wealthy. So can do what he likes, consequence free. | |||
" Do the trump fanatics still think the election was stolen? lol. Most Americans believe that if you don't understand, it you should shoot it. It’s really easy to dismiss a lot of Trumps supporters as fanatics and lunatics but I think people do that at their own peril. MAGA isn’t going anywhere that much is clear, and he still got over 75 million votes (largely on polling day). I also think after an embarrassing impeachment trial, as well as the Time Magazine article, theres going to be little in the diminishment of support for if it’s Trump, then MAGA as it’s own movement itself. Why was the impeachment trial embarrassing? No one thought it was going to get a conviction. The purpose was to highlight Republican hypocrisy. I agree that Trump isn't a cause of, he's more of a symptom. And there is a genuine concern that another lunatic conspiracy theorist could come in and pick up where he left off. But that's more of a worry for the Republicans than it is for anyone else. " Because the double standards were exposed when the defence made their case. A 20 minute video of Dems telling people to ‘fight’ and claiming election rigging going back to 2001 exposed a lot of hypocrisy in their prosecution case. Came across as hysterical nonsense and a waste of time and money to me. I’m sure there’s plenty of Americans feel the same. | |||
" Do the trump fanatics still think the election was stolen? lol. Most Americans believe that if you don't understand, it you should shoot it. It’s really easy to dismiss a lot of Trumps supporters as fanatics and lunatics but I think people do that at their own peril. MAGA isn’t going anywhere that much is clear, and he still got over 75 million votes (largely on polling day). I also think after an embarrassing impeachment trial, as well as the Time Magazine article, theres going to be little in the diminishment of support for if it’s Trump, then MAGA as it’s own movement itself. Why was the impeachment trial embarrassing? No one thought it was going to get a conviction. The purpose was to highlight Republican hypocrisy. I agree that Trump isn't a cause of, he's more of a symptom. And there is a genuine concern that another lunatic conspiracy theorist could come in and pick up where he left off. But that's more of a worry for the Republicans than it is for anyone else. Because the double standards were exposed when the defence made their case. A 20 minute video of Dems telling people to ‘fight’ and claiming election rigging going back to 2001 exposed a lot of hypocrisy in their prosecution case. Came across as hysterical nonsense and a waste of time and money to me. I’m sure there’s plenty of Americans feel the same. " I don't remember anyone attacking the Congress on the instructions of the democrats in 2001. And it wasn't relevant to want happened with the recent attack. In anycase, people will see what the want from the proceedings. The democrats had one reason to impeach trump. To score points against the republicans. Job done. Personally, I don't think it will make any difference. People were happy to vote for the pussy grabbing, self serving racist, so they're not going to give a fuck about some bog standard hypocrisy. | |||
" Do the trump fanatics still think the election was stolen? lol. Most Americans believe that if you don't understand, it you should shoot it. It’s really easy to dismiss a lot of Trumps supporters as fanatics and lunatics but I think people do that at their own peril. MAGA isn’t going anywhere that much is clear, and he still got over 75 million votes (largely on polling day). I also think after an embarrassing impeachment trial, as well as the Time Magazine article, theres going to be little in the diminishment of support for if it’s Trump, then MAGA as it’s own movement itself. Why was the impeachment trial embarrassing? No one thought it was going to get a conviction. The purpose was to highlight Republican hypocrisy. I agree that Trump isn't a cause of, he's more of a symptom. And there is a genuine concern that another lunatic conspiracy theorist could come in and pick up where he left off. But that's more of a worry for the Republicans than it is for anyone else. Because the double standards were exposed when the defence made their case. A 20 minute video of Dems telling people to ‘fight’ and claiming election rigging going back to 2001 exposed a lot of hypocrisy in their prosecution case. Came across as hysterical nonsense and a waste of time and money to me. I’m sure there’s plenty of Americans feel the same. I don't remember anyone attacking the Congress on the instructions of the democrats in 2001. And it wasn't relevant to want happened with the recent attack. In anycase, people will see what the want from the proceedings. The democrats had one reason to impeach trump. To score points against the republicans. Job done. Personally, I don't think it will make any difference. People were happy to vote for the pussy grabbing, self serving racist, so they're not going to give a fuck about some bog standard hypocrisy. " Well I disagree. It’s relevant when they’ve built a case on Trumps rhetoric and inflammatory language as the cause for the riot and their whole reason for impeachment. Especially given the summer riots. But his supporters won’t give a fuck, it’s just more fuel for the fire to them and yet more evidence that the Dems have ‘lost the plot’. They were caught doctoring their evidence too. It’s not a good look. | |||
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"Trying to overthrow a gmnt A violent insurrection with armed protestors. 4 dead including A policeman killed Headlines all around the world All incited by the president Hysterical nonsense. Wow. Just wow." A summer of rioting By a group already responsible for the murder of several police officers 27 dead in one Summer Children shot by armed ‘security’ in autonomous zones set up by said group. Democratic politicians and governors cheering it on. Wow. Just wow. Can do this all day Lionel. Their arguments were hysterical and hypocritical. One rule for thee and another for me. | |||
" Do the trump fanatics still think the election was stolen? lol. Most Americans believe that if you don't understand, it you should shoot it. It’s really easy to dismiss a lot of Trumps supporters as fanatics and lunatics but I think people do that at their own peril. MAGA isn’t going anywhere that much is clear, and he still got over 75 million votes (largely on polling day). I also think after an embarrassing impeachment trial, as well as the Time Magazine article, theres going to be little in the diminishment of support for if it’s Trump, then MAGA as it’s own movement itself. Why was the impeachment trial embarrassing? No one thought it was going to get a conviction. The purpose was to highlight Republican hypocrisy. I agree that Trump isn't a cause of, he's more of a symptom. And there is a genuine concern that another lunatic conspiracy theorist could come in and pick up where he left off. But that's more of a worry for the Republicans than it is for anyone else. Because the double standards were exposed when the defence made their case. A 20 minute video of Dems telling people to ‘fight’ and claiming election rigging going back to 2001 exposed a lot of hypocrisy in their prosecution case. Came across as hysterical nonsense and a waste of time and money to me. I’m sure there’s plenty of Americans feel the same. I don't remember anyone attacking the Congress on the instructions of the democrats in 2001. And it wasn't relevant to want happened with the recent attack. In anycase, people will see what the want from the proceedings. The democrats had one reason to impeach trump. To score points against the republicans. Job done. Personally, I don't think it will make any difference. People were happy to vote for the pussy grabbing, self serving racist, so they're not going to give a fuck about some bog standard hypocrisy. Well I disagree. It’s relevant when they’ve built a case on Trumps rhetoric and inflammatory language as the cause for the riot and their whole reason for impeachment. Especially given the summer riots. But his supporters won’t give a fuck, it’s just more fuel for the fire to them and yet more evidence that the Dems have ‘lost the plot’. They were caught doctoring their evidence too. It’s not a good look. " Fair enough. People can take what they want. If they want to continue supporting Trump, this will have made zero difference to them. If they supported the Republicans or Democrats, I suspect it will make very little difference to them either. And the undecided voters will have four years of bullshit to absorb between now and the next election. Or two years for their half term whatevers. So I don't think it will make much difference their either. I have even less faith in their corporate driven system of government than ours. | |||
"Trying to overthrow a gmnt A violent insurrection with armed protestors. 4 dead including A policeman killed Headlines all around the world All incited by the president Hysterical nonsense. Wow. Just wow. A summer of rioting By a group already responsible for the murder of several police officers 27 dead in one Summer Children shot by armed ‘security’ in autonomous zones set up by said group. Democratic politicians and governors cheering it on. Wow. Just wow. Can do this all day Lionel. Their arguments were hysterical and hypocritical. One rule for thee and another for me. " I wonder if its possible to actually view completely disparate events as not actually related to each other? | |||
"Trying to overthrow a gmnt A violent insurrection with armed protestors. 4 dead including A policeman killed Headlines all around the world All incited by the president Hysterical nonsense. Wow. Just wow. A summer of rioting By a group already responsible for the murder of several police officers 27 dead in one Summer Children shot by armed ‘security’ in autonomous zones set up by said group. Democratic politicians and governors cheering it on. Wow. Just wow. Can do this all day Lionel. Their arguments were hysterical and hypocritical. One rule for thee and another for me. " Can you also provide a link where Democrats have cheered kids being shot? Cheers | |||
" Do the trump fanatics still think the election was stolen? lol. Most Americans believe that if you don't understand, it you should shoot it. It’s really easy to dismiss a lot of Trumps supporters as fanatics and lunatics but I think people do that at their own peril. MAGA isn’t going anywhere that much is clear, and he still got over 75 million votes (largely on polling day). I also think after an embarrassing impeachment trial, as well as the Time Magazine article, theres going to be little in the diminishment of support for if it’s Trump, then MAGA as it’s own movement itself. Why was the impeachment trial embarrassing? No one thought it was going to get a conviction. The purpose was to highlight Republican hypocrisy. I agree that Trump isn't a cause of, he's more of a symptom. And there is a genuine concern that another lunatic conspiracy theorist could come in and pick up where he left off. But that's more of a worry for the Republicans than it is for anyone else. Because the double standards were exposed when the defence made their case. A 20 minute video of Dems telling people to ‘fight’ and claiming election rigging going back to 2001 exposed a lot of hypocrisy in their prosecution case. Came across as hysterical nonsense and a waste of time and money to me. I’m sure there’s plenty of Americans feel the same. I don't remember anyone attacking the Congress on the instructions of the democrats in 2001. And it wasn't relevant to want happened with the recent attack. In anycase, people will see what the want from the proceedings. The democrats had one reason to impeach trump. To score points against the republicans. Job done. Personally, I don't think it will make any difference. People were happy to vote for the pussy grabbing, self serving racist, so they're not going to give a fuck about some bog standard hypocrisy. Well I disagree. It’s relevant when they’ve built a case on Trumps rhetoric and inflammatory language as the cause for the riot and their whole reason for impeachment. Especially given the summer riots. But his supporters won’t give a fuck, it’s just more fuel for the fire to them and yet more evidence that the Dems have ‘lost the plot’. They were caught doctoring their evidence too. It’s not a good look. " A failed case... There's a woman on a sex site Having sex with men she's not married to Showing all she has, displaying intimate parts to anyone looking .....I could say more.... She must be a whore? Yet she claims to be a swinger, bullshit! Let's impeach her, all the evidence is there, we lose the impeachment but you still call her a whore? lol | |||
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"Trying to overthrow a gmnt A violent insurrection with armed protestors. 4 dead including A policeman killed Headlines all around the world All incited by the president Hysterical nonsense. Wow. Just wow. A summer of rioting By a group already responsible for the murder of several police officers 27 dead in one Summer Children shot by armed ‘security’ in autonomous zones set up by said group. Democratic politicians and governors cheering it on. Wow. Just wow. Can do this all day Lionel. Their arguments were hysterical and hypocritical. One rule for thee and another for me. Can you also provide a link where Democrats have cheered kids being shot? Cheers " I’m not your politics and current affairs teacher Lionel. Mayor Durkans support of the autonomous zone is a matter of record. It’s in the Guardian. I know you like the Guardian. The accusation is rhetoric caused the Capitol Hill riot. The counter argument is why didn’t the ‘fiery rhetoric’ of democrats incite the rioting in the summer? Or previous violent disorders? Why does the accusation fit one side and not the other? This is my point - hypocrisy and hysteria when the boots on the other foot. I’m not arguing with you, I just disagree with your perception of it all at its most base level. | |||
"Trying to overthrow a gmnt A violent insurrection with armed protestors. 4 dead including A policeman killed Headlines all around the world All incited by the president Hysterical nonsense. Wow. Just wow. A summer of rioting By a group already responsible for the murder of several police officers 27 dead in one Summer Children shot by armed ‘security’ in autonomous zones set up by said group. Democratic politicians and governors cheering it on. Wow. Just wow. Can do this all day Lionel. Their arguments were hysterical and hypocritical. One rule for thee and another for me. Can you also provide a link where Democrats have cheered kids being shot? Cheers I’m not your politics and current affairs teacher Lionel. Mayor Durkans support of the autonomous zone is a matter of record. It’s in the Guardian. I know you like the Guardian. The accusation is rhetoric caused the Capitol Hill riot. The counter argument is why didn’t the ‘fiery rhetoric’ of democrats incite the rioting in the summer? Or previous violent disorders? Why does the accusation fit one side and not the other? This is my point - hypocrisy and hysteria when the boots on the other foot. I’m not arguing with you, I just disagree with your perception of it all at its most base level. " Translation.. it never happened. Because its pointless. Each incident should be judged independently. Trump should face the consequences of his actions. Similarly if there are violent 'left wing 'protests thet should also be addressed Saying..but what about..everytime the storming of the Capitol is brought up is utterly futile. | |||
"Trying to overthrow a gmnt A violent insurrection with armed protestors. 4 dead including A policeman killed Headlines all around the world All incited by the president Hysterical nonsense. Wow. Just wow. A summer of rioting By a group already responsible for the murder of several police officers 27 dead in one Summer Children shot by armed ‘security’ in autonomous zones set up by said group. Democratic politicians and governors cheering it on. Wow. Just wow. Can do this all day Lionel. Their arguments were hysterical and hypocritical. One rule for thee and another for me. Can you also provide a link where Democrats have cheered kids being shot? Cheers I’m not your politics and current affairs teacher Lionel. Mayor Durkans support of the autonomous zone is a matter of record. It’s in the Guardian. I know you like the Guardian. The accusation is rhetoric caused the Capitol Hill riot. The counter argument is why didn’t the ‘fiery rhetoric’ of democrats incite the rioting in the summer? Or previous violent disorders? Why does the accusation fit one side and not the other? This is my point - hypocrisy and hysteria when the boots on the other foot. I’m not arguing with you, I just disagree with your perception of it all at its most base level. Translation.. it never happened. Because its pointless. Each incident should be judged independently. Trump should face the consequences of his actions. Similarly if there are violent 'left wing 'protests thet should also be addressed Saying..but what about..everytime the storming of the Capitol is brought up is utterly futile." Mmmm no, she definitely supported the chop. I just refuse to get drawn into midwittery of ‘source?’ over and over. Look for yourself. But generally I agree with your point. And all I want is consistency. Which were never going to get. But if Trump is guilty of inciting violence with his speech in DC, then so are the Dems for using the exact same language and rhetoric in the Summer. This is what I find ‘hysterical’. | |||
"Trying to overthrow a gmnt A violent insurrection with armed protestors. 4 dead including A policeman killed Headlines all around the world All incited by the president Hysterical nonsense. Wow. Just wow. A summer of rioting By a group already responsible for the murder of several police officers 27 dead in one Summer Children shot by armed ‘security’ in autonomous zones set up by said group. Democratic politicians and governors cheering it on. Wow. Just wow. Can do this all day Lionel. Their arguments were hysterical and hypocritical. One rule for thee and another for me. Can you also provide a link where Democrats have cheered kids being shot? Cheers I’m not your politics and current affairs teacher Lionel. Mayor Durkans support of the autonomous zone is a matter of record. It’s in the Guardian. I know you like the Guardian. The accusation is rhetoric caused the Capitol Hill riot. The counter argument is why didn’t the ‘fiery rhetoric’ of democrats incite the rioting in the summer? Or previous violent disorders? Why does the accusation fit one side and not the other? This is my point - hypocrisy and hysteria when the boots on the other foot. I’m not arguing with you, I just disagree with your perception of it all at its most base level. Translation.. it never happened. Because its pointless. Each incident should be judged independently. Trump should face the consequences of his actions. Similarly if there are violent 'left wing 'protests thet should also be addressed Saying..but what about..everytime the storming of the Capitol is brought up is utterly futile." It might be futile, but it works. You see loads of people using it as a diversion tactic. | |||
"Trying to overthrow a gmnt A violent insurrection with armed protestors. 4 dead including A policeman killed Headlines all around the world All incited by the president Hysterical nonsense. Wow. Just wow. A summer of rioting By a group already responsible for the murder of several police officers 27 dead in one Summer Children shot by armed ‘security’ in autonomous zones set up by said group. Democratic politicians and governors cheering it on. Wow. Just wow. Can do this all day Lionel. Their arguments were hysterical and hypocritical. One rule for thee and another for me. Can you also provide a link where Democrats have cheered kids being shot? Cheers I’m not your politics and current affairs teacher Lionel. Mayor Durkans support of the autonomous zone is a matter of record. It’s in the Guardian. I know you like the Guardian. The accusation is rhetoric caused the Capitol Hill riot. The counter argument is why didn’t the ‘fiery rhetoric’ of democrats incite the rioting in the summer? Or previous violent disorders? Why does the accusation fit one side and not the other? This is my point - hypocrisy and hysteria when the boots on the other foot. I’m not arguing with you, I just disagree with your perception of it all at its most base level. Translation.. it never happened. Because its pointless. Each incident should be judged independently. Trump should face the consequences of his actions. Similarly if there are violent 'left wing 'protests thet should also be addressed Saying..but what about..everytime the storming of the Capitol is brought up is utterly futile. Mmmm no, she definitely supported the chop. I just refuse to get drawn into midwittery of ‘source?’ over and over. Look for yourself. But generally I agree with your point. And all I want is consistency. Which were never going to get. But if Trump is guilty of inciting violence with his speech in DC, then so are the Dems for using the exact same language and rhetoric in the Summer. This is what I find ‘hysterical’. " He didnt just incite violent he wanted to see the democratic process completely undone and overthrow the election. But he seems to be venting his spleen on the republics which hopefully will see them split in 2. | |||
" It might be futile, but it works. You see loads of people using it as a diversion tactic." Whataboutism is difficult to deal with, but you could start here: https://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/16001/how-can-i-respond-to-whataboutism | |||
"Trying to overthrow a gmnt A violent insurrection with armed protestors. 4 dead including A policeman killed Headlines all around the world All incited by the president Hysterical nonsense. Wow. Just wow. A summer of rioting By a group already responsible for the murder of several police officers 27 dead in one Summer Children shot by armed ‘security’ in autonomous zones set up by said group. Democratic politicians and governors cheering it on. Wow. Just wow. Can do this all day Lionel. Their arguments were hysterical and hypocritical. One rule for thee and another for me. Can you also provide a link where Democrats have cheered kids being shot? Cheers I’m not your politics and current affairs teacher Lionel. Mayor Durkans support of the autonomous zone is a matter of record. It’s in the Guardian. I know you like the Guardian. The accusation is rhetoric caused the Capitol Hill riot. The counter argument is why didn’t the ‘fiery rhetoric’ of democrats incite the rioting in the summer? Or previous violent disorders? Why does the accusation fit one side and not the other? This is my point - hypocrisy and hysteria when the boots on the other foot. I’m not arguing with you, I just disagree with your perception of it all at its most base level. Translation.. it never happened. Because its pointless. Each incident should be judged independently. Trump should face the consequences of his actions. Similarly if there are violent 'left wing 'protests thet should also be addressed Saying..but what about..everytime the storming of the Capitol is brought up is utterly futile. Mmmm no, she definitely supported the chop. I just refuse to get drawn into midwittery of ‘source?’ over and over. Look for yourself. But generally I agree with your point. And all I want is consistency. Which were never going to get. But if Trump is guilty of inciting violence with his speech in DC, then so are the Dems for using the exact same language and rhetoric in the Summer. This is what I find ‘hysterical’. He didnt just incite violent he wanted to see the democratic process completely undone and overthrow the election. But he seems to be venting his spleen on the republics which hopefully will see them split in 2. " But he didn’t incite violence. That’s been proven in court I think he still believes he has been legitimately cheated out of a second term. As I said in my first post in here the Time Magazine article hasn’t really done anything to help the Dems claim of legitimacy, or do anything to silence critics of the election process. Openly saying there was a ‘conspiracy’ by a ‘powerful cabal’ to ensure a ‘proper’ result for the election isn’t great optics. Neither is saying ‘in a way, Trump was right, there was a conspiracy at work’. Feeding the nutters. It’ll be an interesting 4 years for sure. | |||
"Trying to overthrow a gmnt A violent insurrection with armed protestors. 4 dead including A policeman killed Headlines all around the world All incited by the president Hysterical nonsense. Wow. Just wow. A summer of rioting By a group already responsible for the murder of several police officers 27 dead in one Summer Children shot by armed ‘security’ in autonomous zones set up by said group. Democratic politicians and governors cheering it on. Wow. Just wow. Can do this all day Lionel. Their arguments were hysterical and hypocritical. One rule for thee and another for me. Can you also provide a link where Democrats have cheered kids being shot? Cheers I’m not your politics and current affairs teacher Lionel. Mayor Durkans support of the autonomous zone is a matter of record. It’s in the Guardian. I know you like the Guardian. The accusation is rhetoric caused the Capitol Hill riot. The counter argument is why didn’t the ‘fiery rhetoric’ of democrats incite the rioting in the summer? Or previous violent disorders? Why does the accusation fit one side and not the other? This is my point - hypocrisy and hysteria when the boots on the other foot. I’m not arguing with you, I just disagree with your perception of it all at its most base level. Translation.. it never happened. Because its pointless. Each incident should be judged independently. Trump should face the consequences of his actions. Similarly if there are violent 'left wing 'protests thet should also be addressed Saying..but what about..everytime the storming of the Capitol is brought up is utterly futile. Mmmm no, she definitely supported the chop. I just refuse to get drawn into midwittery of ‘source?’ over and over. Look for yourself. But generally I agree with your point. And all I want is consistency. Which were never going to get. But if Trump is guilty of inciting violence with his speech in DC, then so are the Dems for using the exact same language and rhetoric in the Summer. This is what I find ‘hysterical’. He didnt just incite violent he wanted to see the democratic process completely undone and overthrow the election. But he seems to be venting his spleen on the republics which hopefully will see them split in 2. But he didn’t incite violence. That’s been proven in court I think he still believes he has been legitimately cheated out of a second term. As I said in my first post in here the Time Magazine article hasn’t really done anything to help the Dems claim of legitimacy, or do anything to silence critics of the election process. Openly saying there was a ‘conspiracy’ by a ‘powerful cabal’ to ensure a ‘proper’ result for the election isn’t great optics. Neither is saying ‘in a way, Trump was right, there was a conspiracy at work’. Feeding the nutters. It’ll be an interesting 4 years for sure. " Hah! "Proven in court", actually "proven" in the Senate, where the majority of them voted him guilty. In any case, it was all political. Personally, I don't know he incited the riots, I think he created the atmosphere and situation that lead to the riot, and he absolutely egged them on. Not to say I don't think he contributed to the loss of life. But legally he would have had to be proved beyond doubt that this was his intention. I don't think he thought enough about what he was saying. Anyway pointing at something else that happened in a different situation and claiming it's the exact same, isn't useful. It wasn't the exact same, democrats didn't say the same things, and hadn't created the situation themselves. | |||
"Trying to overthrow a gmnt A violent insurrection with armed protestors. 4 dead including A policeman killed Headlines all around the world All incited by the president Hysterical nonsense. Wow. Just wow. A summer of rioting By a group already responsible for the murder of several police officers 27 dead in one Summer Children shot by armed ‘security’ in autonomous zones set up by said group. Democratic politicians and governors cheering it on. Wow. Just wow. Can do this all day Lionel. Their arguments were hysterical and hypocritical. One rule for thee and another for me. Can you also provide a link where Democrats have cheered kids being shot? Cheers I’m not your politics and current affairs teacher Lionel. Mayor Durkans support of the autonomous zone is a matter of record. It’s in the Guardian. I know you like the Guardian. The accusation is rhetoric caused the Capitol Hill riot. The counter argument is why didn’t the ‘fiery rhetoric’ of democrats incite the rioting in the summer? Or previous violent disorders? Why does the accusation fit one side and not the other? This is my point - hypocrisy and hysteria when the boots on the other foot. I’m not arguing with you, I just disagree with your perception of it all at its most base level. Translation.. it never happened. Because its pointless. Each incident should be judged independently. Trump should face the consequences of his actions. Similarly if there are violent 'left wing 'protests thet should also be addressed Saying..but what about..everytime the storming of the Capitol is brought up is utterly futile. Mmmm no, she definitely supported the chop. I just refuse to get drawn into midwittery of ‘source?’ over and over. Look for yourself. But generally I agree with your point. And all I want is consistency. Which were never going to get. But if Trump is guilty of inciting violence with his speech in DC, then so are the Dems for using the exact same language and rhetoric in the Summer. This is what I find ‘hysterical’. He didnt just incite violent he wanted to see the democratic process completely undone and overthrow the election. But he seems to be venting his spleen on the republics which hopefully will see them split in 2. But he didn’t incite violence. That’s been proven in court I think he still believes he has been legitimately cheated out of a second term. As I said in my first post in here the Time Magazine article hasn’t really done anything to help the Dems claim of legitimacy, or do anything to silence critics of the election process. Openly saying there was a ‘conspiracy’ by a ‘powerful cabal’ to ensure a ‘proper’ result for the election isn’t great optics. Neither is saying ‘in a way, Trump was right, there was a conspiracy at work’. Feeding the nutters. It’ll be an interesting 4 years for sure. Hah! "Proven in court", actually "proven" in the Senate, where the majority of them voted him guilty. In any case, it was all political. Personally, I don't know he incited the riots, I think he created the atmosphere and situation that lead to the riot, and he absolutely egged them on. Not to say I don't think he contributed to the loss of life. But legally he would have had to be proved beyond doubt that this was his intention. I don't think he thought enough about what he was saying. Anyway pointing at something else that happened in a different situation and claiming it's the exact same, isn't useful. It wasn't the exact same, democrats didn't say the same things, and hadn't created the situation themselves." Apologies, yes, the senate. One of the key points of the defence was the doctoring of evidence by the prosecution, and pointing out that of it were an actual court, then it would’ve been thrown out immediately, with the prosecution likely punished by the court for it. Im not saying all the events were exactly the same, but they were of a similar enough nature (with the political rhetoric and in the resultant violence especially) to be considered to be setting a precedent - especially if the prosecutions case hinges entirely on the presumption that Trump knew, or should have known, that his words would lead to violence. We might see it as whataboutery in a back and forth debate, but in law, precedence matters. I think in this instance, what was said previously does matter regardless, and I believe any criminal court would agree with me. | |||
"Trying to overthrow a gmnt A violent insurrection with armed protestors. 4 dead including A policeman killed Headlines all around the world All incited by the president Hysterical nonsense. Wow. Just wow. A summer of rioting By a group already responsible for the murder of several police officers 27 dead in one Summer Children shot by armed ‘security’ in autonomous zones set up by said group. Democratic politicians and governors cheering it on. Wow. Just wow. Can do this all day Lionel. Their arguments were hysterical and hypocritical. One rule for thee and another for me. Can you also provide a link where Democrats have cheered kids being shot? Cheers I’m not your politics and current affairs teacher Lionel. Mayor Durkans support of the autonomous zone is a matter of record. It’s in the Guardian. I know you like the Guardian. The accusation is rhetoric caused the Capitol Hill riot. The counter argument is why didn’t the ‘fiery rhetoric’ of democrats incite the rioting in the summer? Or previous violent disorders? Why does the accusation fit one side and not the other? This is my point - hypocrisy and hysteria when the boots on the other foot. I’m not arguing with you, I just disagree with your perception of it all at its most base level. Translation.. it never happened. Because its pointless. Each incident should be judged independently. Trump should face the consequences of his actions. Similarly if there are violent 'left wing 'protests thet should also be addressed Saying..but what about..everytime the storming of the Capitol is brought up is utterly futile. Mmmm no, she definitely supported the chop. I just refuse to get drawn into midwittery of ‘source?’ over and over. Look for yourself. But generally I agree with your point. And all I want is consistency. Which were never going to get. But if Trump is guilty of inciting violence with his speech in DC, then so are the Dems for using the exact same language and rhetoric in the Summer. This is what I find ‘hysterical’. He didnt just incite violent he wanted to see the democratic process completely undone and overthrow the election. But he seems to be venting his spleen on the republics which hopefully will see them split in 2. But he didn’t incite violence. That’s been proven in court I think he still believes he has been legitimately cheated out of a second term. As I said in my first post in here the Time Magazine article hasn’t really done anything to help the Dems claim of legitimacy, or do anything to silence critics of the election process. Openly saying there was a ‘conspiracy’ by a ‘powerful cabal’ to ensure a ‘proper’ result for the election isn’t great optics. Neither is saying ‘in a way, Trump was right, there was a conspiracy at work’. Feeding the nutters. It’ll be an interesting 4 years for sure. Hah! "Proven in court", actually "proven" in the Senate, where the majority of them voted him guilty. In any case, it was all political. Personally, I don't know he incited the riots, I think he created the atmosphere and situation that lead to the riot, and he absolutely egged them on. Not to say I don't think he contributed to the loss of life. But legally he would have had to be proved beyond doubt that this was his intention. I don't think he thought enough about what he was saying. Anyway pointing at something else that happened in a different situation and claiming it's the exact same, isn't useful. It wasn't the exact same, democrats didn't say the same things, and hadn't created the situation themselves. Apologies, yes, the senate. One of the key points of the defence was the doctoring of evidence by the prosecution, and pointing out that of it were an actual court, then it would’ve been thrown out immediately, with the prosecution likely punished by the court for it. Im not saying all the events were exactly the same, but they were of a similar enough nature (with the political rhetoric and in the resultant violence especially) to be considered to be setting a precedent - especially if the prosecutions case hinges entirely on the presumption that Trump knew, or should have known, that his words would lead to violence. We might see it as whataboutery in a back and forth debate, but in law, precedence matters. I think in this instance, what was said previously does matter regardless, and I believe any criminal court would agree with me. " Yeah all fair. I'm in favour of people being held accountable for the things they say and do. In the legal framework, even if it's a flawed framework. I guess my point is that the latest impeachment was purely political, and played out as expected. The democrats achieved what they wanted to achieve. But my opinion is that it won't make any difference. | |||
"Trying to overthrow a gmnt A violent insurrection with armed protestors. 4 dead including A policeman killed Headlines all around the world All incited by the president Hysterical nonsense. Wow. Just wow. A summer of rioting By a group already responsible for the murder of several police officers 27 dead in one Summer Children shot by armed ‘security’ in autonomous zones set up by said group. Democratic politicians and governors cheering it on. Wow. Just wow. Can do this all day Lionel. Their arguments were hysterical and hypocritical. One rule for thee and another for me. Can you also provide a link where Democrats have cheered kids being shot? Cheers I’m not your politics and current affairs teacher Lionel. Mayor Durkans support of the autonomous zone is a matter of record. It’s in the Guardian. I know you like the Guardian. The accusation is rhetoric caused the Capitol Hill riot. The counter argument is why didn’t the ‘fiery rhetoric’ of democrats incite the rioting in the summer? Or previous violent disorders? Why does the accusation fit one side and not the other? This is my point - hypocrisy and hysteria when the boots on the other foot. I’m not arguing with you, I just disagree with your perception of it all at its most base level. Translation.. it never happened. Because its pointless. Each incident should be judged independently. Trump should face the consequences of his actions. Similarly if there are violent 'left wing 'protests thet should also be addressed Saying..but what about..everytime the storming of the Capitol is brought up is utterly futile. Mmmm no, she definitely supported the chop. I just refuse to get drawn into midwittery of ‘source?’ over and over. Look for yourself. But generally I agree with your point. And all I want is consistency. Which were never going to get. But if Trump is guilty of inciting violence with his speech in DC, then so are the Dems for using the exact same language and rhetoric in the Summer. This is what I find ‘hysterical’. He didnt just incite violent he wanted to see the democratic process completely undone and overthrow the election. But he seems to be venting his spleen on the republics which hopefully will see them split in 2. But he didn’t incite violence. That’s been proven in court I think he still believes he has been legitimately cheated out of a second term. As I said in my first post in here the Time Magazine article hasn’t really done anything to help the Dems claim of legitimacy, or do anything to silence critics of the election process. Openly saying there was a ‘conspiracy’ by a ‘powerful cabal’ to ensure a ‘proper’ result for the election isn’t great optics. Neither is saying ‘in a way, Trump was right, there was a conspiracy at work’. Feeding the nutters. It’ll be an interesting 4 years for sure. Hah! "Proven in court", actually "proven" in the Senate, where the majority of them voted him guilty. In any case, it was all political. Personally, I don't know he incited the riots, I think he created the atmosphere and situation that lead to the riot, and he absolutely egged them on. Not to say I don't think he contributed to the loss of life. But legally he would have had to be proved beyond doubt that this was his intention. I don't think he thought enough about what he was saying. Anyway pointing at something else that happened in a different situation and claiming it's the exact same, isn't useful. It wasn't the exact same, democrats didn't say the same things, and hadn't created the situation themselves." i think the political system has provoked the riots/situation, lying cheating self interested politicians world wide thinking they can act with impunity forever more... many are! trump just happens to be in the middle of it as the storm brews. I dont know if they cheated, i think its possible, anyone watch the wire? sums it all up, back scratching from top to bottom... im not surprised there are lots of angry people world wide | |||
"Trying to overthrow a gmnt A violent insurrection with armed protestors. 4 dead including A policeman killed Headlines all around the world All incited by the president Hysterical nonsense. Wow. Just wow. A summer of rioting By a group already responsible for the murder of several police officers 27 dead in one Summer Children shot by armed ‘security’ in autonomous zones set up by said group. Democratic politicians and governors cheering it on. Wow. Just wow. Can do this all day Lionel. Their arguments were hysterical and hypocritical. One rule for thee and another for me. Can you also provide a link where Democrats have cheered kids being shot? Cheers I’m not your politics and current affairs teacher Lionel. Mayor Durkans support of the autonomous zone is a matter of record. It’s in the Guardian. I know you like the Guardian. The accusation is rhetoric caused the Capitol Hill riot. The counter argument is why didn’t the ‘fiery rhetoric’ of democrats incite the rioting in the summer? Or previous violent disorders? Why does the accusation fit one side and not the other? This is my point - hypocrisy and hysteria when the boots on the other foot. I’m not arguing with you, I just disagree with your perception of it all at its most base level. Translation.. it never happened. Because its pointless. Each incident should be judged independently. Trump should face the consequences of his actions. Similarly if there are violent 'left wing 'protests thet should also be addressed Saying..but what about..everytime the storming of the Capitol is brought up is utterly futile. Mmmm no, she definitely supported the chop. I just refuse to get drawn into midwittery of ‘source?’ over and over. Look for yourself. But generally I agree with your point. And all I want is consistency. Which were never going to get. But if Trump is guilty of inciting violence with his speech in DC, then so are the Dems for using the exact same language and rhetoric in the Summer. This is what I find ‘hysterical’. He didnt just incite violent he wanted to see the democratic process completely undone and overthrow the election. But he seems to be venting his spleen on the republics which hopefully will see them split in 2. But he didn’t incite violence. That’s been proven in court I think he still believes he has been legitimately cheated out of a second term. As I said in my first post in here the Time Magazine article hasn’t really done anything to help the Dems claim of legitimacy, or do anything to silence critics of the election process. Openly saying there was a ‘conspiracy’ by a ‘powerful cabal’ to ensure a ‘proper’ result for the election isn’t great optics. Neither is saying ‘in a way, Trump was right, there was a conspiracy at work’. Feeding the nutters. It’ll be an interesting 4 years for sure. Hah! "Proven in court", actually "proven" in the Senate, where the majority of them voted him guilty. In any case, it was all political. Personally, I don't know he incited the riots, I think he created the atmosphere and situation that lead to the riot, and he absolutely egged them on. Not to say I don't think he contributed to the loss of life. But legally he would have had to be proved beyond doubt that this was his intention. I don't think he thought enough about what he was saying. Anyway pointing at something else that happened in a different situation and claiming it's the exact same, isn't useful. It wasn't the exact same, democrats didn't say the same things, and hadn't created the situation themselves. Apologies, yes, the senate. One of the key points of the defence was the doctoring of evidence by the prosecution, and pointing out that of it were an actual court, then it would’ve been thrown out immediately, with the prosecution likely punished by the court for it. Im not saying all the events were exactly the same, but they were of a similar enough nature (with the political rhetoric and in the resultant violence especially) to be considered to be setting a precedent - especially if the prosecutions case hinges entirely on the presumption that Trump knew, or should have known, that his words would lead to violence. We might see it as whataboutery in a back and forth debate, but in law, precedence matters. I think in this instance, what was said previously does matter regardless, and I believe any criminal court would agree with me. Yeah all fair. I'm in favour of people being held accountable for the things they say and do. In the legal framework, even if it's a flawed framework. I guess my point is that the latest impeachment was purely political, and played out as expected. The democrats achieved what they wanted to achieve. But my opinion is that it won't make any difference." Oh it was point scoring for sure. It won’t have shifted anyone anywhere. Dems will get more angry that he’s been acquitted, MAGA supporters will be more angry that they even tried to impeach him on such a weak case. All a little bit pointless and a waste of tax payers money. | |||
"Trying to overthrow a gmnt A violent insurrection with armed protestors. 4 dead including A policeman killed Headlines all around the world All incited by the president Hysterical nonsense. Wow. Just wow. A summer of rioting By a group already responsible for the murder of several police officers 27 dead in one Summer Children shot by armed ‘security’ in autonomous zones set up by said group. Democratic politicians and governors cheering it on. Wow. Just wow. Can do this all day Lionel. Their arguments were hysterical and hypocritical. One rule for thee and another for me. Can you also provide a link where Democrats have cheered kids being shot? Cheers I’m not your politics and current affairs teacher Lionel. Mayor Durkans support of the autonomous zone is a matter of record. It’s in the Guardian. I know you like the Guardian. The accusation is rhetoric caused the Capitol Hill riot. The counter argument is why didn’t the ‘fiery rhetoric’ of democrats incite the rioting in the summer? Or previous violent disorders? Why does the accusation fit one side and not the other? This is my point - hypocrisy and hysteria when the boots on the other foot. I’m not arguing with you, I just disagree with your perception of it all at its most base level. Translation.. it never happened. Because its pointless. Each incident should be judged independently. Trump should face the consequences of his actions. Similarly if there are violent 'left wing 'protests thet should also be addressed Saying..but what about..everytime the storming of the Capitol is brought up is utterly futile. Mmmm no, she definitely supported the chop. I just refuse to get drawn into midwittery of ‘source?’ over and over. Look for yourself. But generally I agree with your point. And all I want is consistency. Which were never going to get. But if Trump is guilty of inciting violence with his speech in DC, then so are the Dems for using the exact same language and rhetoric in the Summer. This is what I find ‘hysterical’. He didnt just incite violent he wanted to see the democratic process completely undone and overthrow the election. But he seems to be venting his spleen on the republics which hopefully will see them split in 2. But he didn’t incite violence. That’s been proven in court I think he still believes he has been legitimately cheated out of a second term. As I said in my first post in here the Time Magazine article hasn’t really done anything to help the Dems claim of legitimacy, or do anything to silence critics of the election process. Openly saying there was a ‘conspiracy’ by a ‘powerful cabal’ to ensure a ‘proper’ result for the election isn’t great optics. Neither is saying ‘in a way, Trump was right, there was a conspiracy at work’. Feeding the nutters. It’ll be an interesting 4 years for sure. Hah! "Proven in court", actually "proven" in the Senate, where the majority of them voted him guilty. In any case, it was all political. Personally, I don't know he incited the riots, I think he created the atmosphere and situation that lead to the riot, and he absolutely egged them on. Not to say I don't think he contributed to the loss of life. But legally he would have had to be proved beyond doubt that this was his intention. I don't think he thought enough about what he was saying. Anyway pointing at something else that happened in a different situation and claiming it's the exact same, isn't useful. It wasn't the exact same, democrats didn't say the same things, and hadn't created the situation themselves. Apologies, yes, the senate. One of the key points of the defence was the doctoring of evidence by the prosecution, and pointing out that of it were an actual court, then it would’ve been thrown out immediately, with the prosecution likely punished by the court for it. Im not saying all the events were exactly the same, but they were of a similar enough nature (with the political rhetoric and in the resultant violence especially) to be considered to be setting a precedent - especially if the prosecutions case hinges entirely on the presumption that Trump knew, or should have known, that his words would lead to violence. We might see it as whataboutery in a back and forth debate, but in law, precedence matters. I think in this instance, what was said previously does matter regardless, and I believe any criminal court would agree with me. Yeah all fair. I'm in favour of people being held accountable for the things they say and do. In the legal framework, even if it's a flawed framework. I guess my point is that the latest impeachment was purely political, and played out as expected. The democrats achieved what they wanted to achieve. But my opinion is that it won't make any difference. Oh it was point scoring for sure. It won’t have shifted anyone anywhere. Dems will get more angry that he’s been acquitted, MAGA supporters will be more angry that they even tried to impeach him on such a weak case. All a little bit pointless and a waste of tax payers money. " Everything should have been investigated prior to the rush for impeachment.Too many questions that could not be answered. | |||
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"its made the dems look worse than the reps in my eyes and biden was on news today saying that some voters were deranged! not misguided or being fed false promises.... petrol fire! " Me too | |||
"its made the dems look worse than the reps in my eyes and biden was on news today saying that some voters were deranged! not misguided or being fed false promises.... petrol fire! Me too " https://news.yahoo.com/times-corrects-record-officer-sicknick-204024018.html Oops they made a mistake. This is going over well. | |||
"The Republican Party is becoming unelectable. The main take aways from this entire situation is this: 1. The Republicans appear to be soft on Crime. 2. Instead of being a fully inclusive party they are being held captive by the far right and cannot regain the centre right. 3. There are many Republicans trying to become the new trump and courting him to make them appealing to his base. 4. They are losing corporate support considering they are supposed to be a party of business. 5. There is an internal civil war in the Republican Party between moderates and extremists. 6. Money is haemorrhaging from its coffers, which would be used to campaign for 2022 From the outside it looks like the Republicans are heading to the political wilderness. They need a great deal of reflection on how they want to appeal to the electorate, because at this present time they ain’t going nowhere. Until they can provide a way to Alot of democratic governors are swaying the vote the other way. 2 of the biggest election states. Not worried at all. Dead elderly are far more important than a attack on the Capitol. Incoming more lies from the other side " Huh? | |||
"The Republican Party is becoming unelectable. The main take aways from this entire situation is this: 1. The Republicans appear to be soft on Crime. 2. Instead of being a fully inclusive party they are being held captive by the far right and cannot regain the centre right. 3. There are many Republicans trying to become the new trump and courting him to make them appealing to his base. 4. They are losing corporate support considering they are supposed to be a party of business. 5. There is an internal civil war in the Republican Party between moderates and extremists. 6. Money is haemorrhaging from its coffers, which would be used to campaign for 2022 From the outside it looks like the Republicans are heading to the political wilderness. They need a great deal of reflection on how they want to appeal to the electorate, because at this present time they ain’t going nowhere. Until they can provide a way to Alot of democratic governors are swaying the vote the other way. 2 of the biggest election states. Not worried at all. Dead elderly are far more important than a attack on the Capitol. Incoming more lies from the other side Huh?" Cuomo new York and Newsome and maybe wolf. | |||
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