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"https://amp.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2021/feb/14/brexit-britain-eu-covid-vaccination-fiasco?__twitter_impression=true&s=09 Perhaps not." Bet you couldn’t wait for the Guardian to have penned something like this Lionel.  .
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"What’s your opinion of the article ?" That the eu rollout has not been that much of a car crash as the daily mail would like us to believe? He has certainly noticeably been a lot more quiet about being the best in europe. | |||
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"What’s your opinion of the article ? That the eu rollout has not been that much of a car crash as the daily mail would like us to believe? He has certainly noticeably been a lot more quiet about being the best in europe." Your telling me what the article is about, and what the authors opinion is . I asked what is your opinion. | |||
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"What’s your opinion of the article ? That the eu rollout has not been that much of a car crash as the daily mail would like us to believe? He has certainly noticeably been a lot more quiet about being the best in europe. Your telling me what the article is about, and what the authors opinion is . I asked what is your opinion. " My uniformed opinion is that we the roll out has been fairly successful here.They certainly took a gamble on the 1 jab thing ,but it looks to have paid off. My opinion of the eu rollout Is its perhaps not as calatamous that has been suggested. | |||
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"It’s an opinion piece written by someone in Brussels. I would give it the same credence as any jingoistic Daily Mail columnists to be honest. I certainly wouldn’t be blithely believing it or clinging on to it. But that’s just little old objective me "So its total nonsense? | |||
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"It’s an opinion piece written by someone in Brussels. I would give it the same credence as any jingoistic Daily Mail columnists to be honest. I certainly wouldn’t be blithely believing it or clinging on to it. But that’s just little old objective me "Are the figures he provides not correct? | |||
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"It’s an opinion piece written by someone in Brussels. I would give it the same credence as any jingoistic Daily Mail columnists to be honest. I certainly wouldn’t be blithely believing it or clinging on to it. But that’s just little old objective me
So its total nonsense?"It’s certainly going to be partisan. | |||
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"It’s an opinion piece written by someone in Brussels. I would give it the same credence as any jingoistic Daily Mail columnists to be honest. I certainly wouldn’t be blithely believing it or clinging on to it. But that’s just little old objective me
So its total nonsense?
It’s certainly going to be partisan. "The press here print partisan pieces. The brexiteers on here have been creaming themselves silly over them. The papers have been full of how bad the eu has been the last few weeks..should there not be some balance? | |||
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"What’s your opinion of the article ? That the eu rollout has not been that much of a car crash as the daily mail would like us to believe? He has certainly noticeably been a lot more quiet about being the best in europe. Your telling me what the article is about, and what the authors opinion is . I asked what is your opinion. My uniformed opinion is that we the roll out has been fairly successful here.They certainly took a gamble on the 1 jab thing ,but it looks to have paid off. My opinion of the eu rollout Is its perhaps not as calatamous that has been suggested." In what way do you think the EU procurement and roll out is not as calamitous as has been suggested? | |||
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"What’s your opinion of the article ? That the eu rollout has not been that much of a car crash as the daily mail would like us to believe? He has certainly noticeably been a lot more quiet about being the best in europe. Your telling me what the article is about, and what the authors opinion is . I asked what is your opinion. My uniformed opinion is that we the roll out has been fairly successful here.They certainly took a gamble on the 1 jab thing ,but it looks to have paid off. My opinion of the eu rollout Is its perhaps not as calatamous that has been suggested. In what way do you think the EU procurement and roll out is not as calamitous as has been suggested? " You just asked for my opinion and I gave it. I'm going off the figures provided in the article which suggests other countries have vaccinated more people 'fully'than the UK. If those figures are incorrect, I'll stand corrected. | |||
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"It’s an opinion piece written by someone in Brussels. I would give it the same credence as any jingoistic Daily Mail columnists to be honest. I certainly wouldn’t be blithely believing it or clinging on to it. But that’s just little old objective me
So its total nonsense?
It’s certainly going to be partisan.
The press here print partisan pieces. The brexiteers on here have been creaming themselves silly over them.
The papers have been full of how bad the eu has been the last few weeks..should there not be some balance?
"You will use this as a comfort blanket. Cling to it from now on I bet you have already got it copy and pasted ready to deploy. Enjoy the balance. The forums have been brilliant today. | |||
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"What’s your opinion of the article ? That the eu rollout has not been that much of a car crash as the daily mail would like us to believe? He has certainly noticeably been a lot more quiet about being the best in europe. Your telling me what the article is about, and what the authors opinion is . I asked what is your opinion. My uniformed opinion is that we the roll out has been fairly successful here.They certainly took a gamble on the 1 jab thing ,but it looks to have paid off. My opinion of the eu rollout Is its perhaps not as calatamous that has been suggested. In what way do you think the EU procurement and roll out is not as calamitous as has been suggested? You just asked for my opinion and I gave it. I'm going off the figures provided in the article which suggests other countries have vaccinated more people 'fully'than the UK. If those figures are incorrect, I'll stand corrected." So you think it is better to vaccinate fewer people with 2 shots than more people with a single shot? | |||
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"What’s your opinion of the article ? That the eu rollout has not been that much of a car crash as the daily mail would like us to believe? He has certainly noticeably been a lot more quiet about being the best in europe. Your telling me what the article is about, and what the authors opinion is . I asked what is your opinion. My uniformed opinion is that we the roll out has been fairly successful here.They certainly took a gamble on the 1 jab thing ,but it looks to have paid off. My opinion of the eu rollout Is its perhaps not as calatamous that has been suggested. In what way do you think the EU procurement and roll out is not as calamitous as has been suggested? You just asked for my opinion and I gave it. I'm going off the figures provided in the article which suggests other countries have vaccinated more people 'fully'than the UK. If those figures are incorrect, I'll stand corrected. So you think it is better to vaccinate fewer people with 2 shots than more people with a single shot? " Ooh once again just conjuring up things I didnt say. You are getting a dab hand at that. | |||
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political or led by science? i know where my money is. | |||
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"It’s an opinion piece written by someone in Brussels. I would give it the same credence as any jingoistic Daily Mail columnists to be honest. I certainly wouldn’t be blithely believing it or clinging on to it. But that’s just little old objective me
So its total nonsense?
It’s certainly going to be partisan.
The press here print partisan pieces. The brexiteers on here have been creaming themselves silly over them.
The papers have been full of how bad the eu has been the last few weeks..should there not be some balance?
You will use this as a comfort blanket. Cling to it from now on I bet you have already got it copy and pasted ready to deploy. Enjoy the balance.
The forums have been brilliant today. "Literally no idea what you are in about. I've put the link once..why would I put it up again. | |||
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"Nice to see the forum maintaining its using high levels of political debate " You set the standard with so many posts  | |||
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"What’s your opinion of the article ? That the eu rollout has not been that much of a car crash as the daily mail would like us to believe? He has certainly noticeably been a lot more quiet about being the best in europe. Your telling me what the article is about, and what the authors opinion is . I asked what is your opinion. My uniformed opinion is that we the roll out has been fairly successful here.They certainly took a gamble on the 1 jab thing ,but it looks to have paid off. My opinion of the eu rollout Is its perhaps not as calatamous that has been suggested. In what way do you think the EU procurement and roll out is not as calamitous as has been suggested? " The figures calculated for vaccines is different in each country, | |||
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"What’s your opinion of the article ? That the eu rollout has not been that much of a car crash as the daily mail would like us to believe? He has certainly noticeably been a lot more quiet about being the best in europe." Now thats funny typical Gaurdian a comedy comic | |||
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"What’s your opinion of the article ? That the eu rollout has not been that much of a car crash as the daily mail would like us to believe? He has certainly noticeably been a lot more quiet about being the best in europe.Now thats funny typical Gaurdian a comedy comic" The guardian is a comedy comic? | |||
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"What’s your opinion of the article ? That the eu rollout has not been that much of a car crash as the daily mail would like us to believe? He has certainly noticeably been a lot more quiet about being the best in europe.Now thats funny typical Gaurdian a comedy comic" Do you still read The Sun? | |||
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"What’s your opinion of the article ? That the eu rollout has not been that much of a car crash as the daily mail would like us to believe? He has certainly noticeably been a lot more quiet about being the best in europe. Your telling me what the article is about, and what the authors opinion is . I asked what is your opinion. My uniformed opinion is that we the roll out has been fairly successful here.They certainly took a gamble on the 1 jab thing ,but it looks to have paid off. My opinion of the eu rollout Is its perhaps not as calatamous that has been suggested. In what way do you think the EU procurement and roll out is not as calamitous as has been suggested? You just asked for my opinion and I gave it. I'm going off the figures provided in the article which suggests other countries have vaccinated more people 'fully'than the UK. If those figures are incorrect, I'll stand corrected. So you think it is better to vaccinate fewer people with 2 shots than more people with a single shot? Ooh once again just conjuring up things I didnt say. You are getting a dab hand at that." Its a question about what the figures relate to in context.... you seem to suggest your approval for the figures stating that Europe had fully vaccinated/2 shots more people than the Uk. So if you think this is an important measure of the success of the EU vaccine roll out, my question is - do you think it is better to fully vaccinate fewer people than single shot a larger number? | |||
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"Tbf too boris he has been busy swerving meeting with the families of victims who have died asking for an investigation. " And here it is.
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"Tbf too boris he has been busy swerving meeting with the families of victims who have died asking for an investigation. " He said that he had already met them  | |||
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"What’s your opinion of the article ? That the eu rollout has not been that much of a car crash as the daily mail would like us to believe? He has certainly noticeably been a lot more quiet about being the best in europe. Your telling me what the article is about, and what the authors opinion is . I asked what is your opinion. My uniformed opinion is that we the roll out has been fairly successful here.They certainly took a gamble on the 1 jab thing ,but it looks to have paid off. My opinion of the eu rollout Is its perhaps not as calatamous that has been suggested. In what way do you think the EU procurement and roll out is not as calamitous as has been suggested? You just asked for my opinion and I gave it. I'm going off the figures provided in the article which suggests other countries have vaccinated more people 'fully'than the UK. If those figures are incorrect, I'll stand corrected. So you think it is better to vaccinate fewer people with 2 shots than more people with a single shot? Ooh once again just conjuring up things I didnt say. You are getting a dab hand at that. Its a question about what the figures relate to in context.... you seem to suggest your approval for the figures stating that Europe had fully vaccinated/2 shots more people than the Uk. So if you think this is an important measure of the success of the EU vaccine roll out, my question is - do you think it is better to fully vaccinate fewer people than single shot a larger number? " I think it's obviously better to vaccinate people fully. However given time constants and the nature of the pandemic ,the gmnt decided to gamble on giving more people 1 shot. It looks like this gamble has paid off. | |||
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"Tbf too boris he has been busy swerving meeting with the families of victims who have died asking for an investigation. He said that he had already met them "Well you know what his memory is like. Quite forgetful is our boris. | |||
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"What’s your opinion of the article ? That the eu rollout has not been that much of a car crash as the daily mail would like us to believe? He has certainly noticeably been a lot more quiet about being the best in europe. Your telling me what the article is about, and what the authors opinion is . I asked what is your opinion. My uniformed opinion is that we the roll out has been fairly successful here.They certainly took a gamble on the 1 jab thing ,but it looks to have paid off. My opinion of the eu rollout Is its perhaps not as calatamous that has been suggested. In what way do you think the EU procurement and roll out is not as calamitous as has been suggested? You just asked for my opinion and I gave it. I'm going off the figures provided in the article which suggests other countries have vaccinated more people 'fully'than the UK. If those figures are incorrect, I'll stand corrected. So you think it is better to vaccinate fewer people with 2 shots than more people with a single shot? Ooh once again just conjuring up things I didnt say. You are getting a dab hand at that. Its a question about what the figures relate to in context.... you seem to suggest your approval for the figures stating that Europe had fully vaccinated/2 shots more people than the Uk. So if you think this is an important measure of the success of the EU vaccine roll out, my question is - do you think it is better to fully vaccinate fewer people than single shot a larger number? I think it's obviously better to vaccinate people fully. However given time constants and the nature of the pandemic ,the gmnt decided to gamble on giving more people 1 shot. It looks like this gamble has paid off." Of course, everyone will be fully vaccinated. And the Uk governments bold decision to follow a single shot a larger number of people at the moment appears to be working So is your reply suggesting that you do in fact think the single shot plan is a better option, in which case the Eu claiming they have fully vaccinated more people doesn't vindicate the claim in the article that the Eu roll out plan hasn't been calamitous ? | |||
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"What’s your opinion of the article ? That the eu rollout has not been that much of a car crash as the daily mail would like us to believe? He has certainly noticeably been a lot more quiet about being the best in europe. Your telling me what the article is about, and what the authors opinion is . I asked what is your opinion. My uniformed opinion is that we the roll out has been fairly successful here.They certainly took a gamble on the 1 jab thing ,but it looks to have paid off. My opinion of the eu rollout Is its perhaps not as calatamous that has been suggested. In what way do you think the EU procurement and roll out is not as calamitous as has been suggested? You just asked for my opinion and I gave it. I'm going off the figures provided in the article which suggests other countries have vaccinated more people 'fully'than the UK. If those figures are incorrect, I'll stand corrected. So you think it is better to vaccinate fewer people with 2 shots than more people with a single shot? Ooh once again just conjuring up things I didnt say. You are getting a dab hand at that. Its a question about what the figures relate to in context.... you seem to suggest your approval for the figures stating that Europe had fully vaccinated/2 shots more people than the Uk. So if you think this is an important measure of the success of the EU vaccine roll out, my question is - do you think it is better to fully vaccinate fewer people than single shot a larger number? I think it's obviously better to vaccinate people fully. However given time constants and the nature of the pandemic ,the gmnt decided to gamble on giving more people 1 shot. It looks like this gamble has paid off. Of course, everyone will be fully vaccinated. And the Uk governments bold decision to follow a single shot a larger number of people at the moment appears to be working So is your reply suggesting that you do in fact think the single shot plan is a better option, in which case the Eu claiming they have fully vaccinated more people doesn't vindicate the claim in the article that the Eu roll out plan hasn't been calamitous ?" Clearly not as some countries have fully vaccinated a higher proportion of the population. How can that be described as a calamity? | |||
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"As of yesterday, the total numbers of people to have received all doses as prescribed by the vaccination protocol are as follows: Germany 1.41M Italy 1.28M Spain. 1.00M Poland 641K France 634K UK 538K However, the numbers who have received one dose makes different reading: UK. 15.06M Germany. 2.74M France. 2.25M Italy. 1.71M Poland 1.47M Spain. 1.42M" Which is basically what the article was saying. | |||
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"What’s your opinion of the article ? That the eu rollout has not been that much of a car crash as the daily mail would like us to believe? He has certainly noticeably been a lot more quiet about being the best in europe. Your telling me what the article is about, and what the authors opinion is . I asked what is your opinion. My uniformed opinion is that we the roll out has been fairly successful here.They certainly took a gamble on the 1 jab thing ,but it looks to have paid off. My opinion of the eu rollout Is its perhaps not as calatamous that has been suggested. In what way do you think the EU procurement and roll out is not as calamitous as has been suggested? You just asked for my opinion and I gave it. I'm going off the figures provided in the article which suggests other countries have vaccinated more people 'fully'than the UK. If those figures are incorrect, I'll stand corrected." The figures are being portrayed to show the EU is doing well if you choose to show how many people have had at least 1 jab UK will be well ahead of any other | |||
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"As of yesterday, the total numbers of people to have received all doses as prescribed by the vaccination protocol are as follows: Germany 1.41M Italy 1.28M Spain. 1.00M Poland 641K France 634K UK 538K However, the numbers who have received one dose makes different reading: UK. 15.06M Germany. 2.74M France. 2.25M Italy. 1.71M Poland 1.47M Spain. 1.42M Which is basically what the article was saying." I know which country I’d rather be in! | |||
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"As of yesterday, the total numbers of people to have received all doses as prescribed by the vaccination protocol are as follows: Germany 1.41M Italy 1.28M Spain. 1.00M Poland 641K France 634K UK 538K However, the numbers who have received one dose makes different reading: UK. 15.06M Germany. 2.74M France. 2.25M Italy. 1.71M Poland 1.47M Spain. 1.42M Which is basically what the article was saying. I know which country I’d rather be in!" Mongolia? | |||
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"As of yesterday, the total numbers of people to have received all doses as prescribed by the vaccination protocol are as follows: Germany 1.41M Italy 1.28M Spain. 1.00M Poland 641K France 634K UK 538K However, the numbers who have received one dose makes different reading: UK. 15.06M Germany. 2.74M France. 2.25M Italy. 1.71M Poland 1.47M Spain. 1.42M Which is basically what the article was saying." Does it say what age group the EU has vaccinated because we know the UK has stated with the most vulnerable. | |||
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"As of yesterday, the total numbers of people to have received all doses as prescribed by the vaccination protocol are as follows: Germany 1.41M Italy 1.28M Spain. 1.00M Poland 641K France 634K UK 538K However, the numbers who have received one dose makes different reading: UK. 15.06M Germany. 2.74M France. 2.25M Italy. 1.71M Poland 1.47M Spain. 1.42M Which is basically what the article was saying. Does it say what age group the EU has vaccinated because we know the UK has stated with the most vulnerable." Started* | |||
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"Denmark and France are mentioned in the article " France has 3.4% of population having received a vaccination - of which 0.9% of these are fully vaccinated. 96.6% of France is not protected with any vaccine Uk has 22.7% of population has received a vaccination - of which 0.8% of these are fully vaccinated. 77.3% of Uk is not protected with any vaccine. | |||
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"As of yesterday, the total numbers of people to have received all doses as prescribed by the vaccination protocol are as follows: Germany 1.41M Italy 1.28M Spain. 1.00M Poland 641K France 634K UK 538K However, the numbers who have received one dose makes different reading: UK. 15.06M Germany. 2.74M France. 2.25M Italy. 1.71M Poland 1.47M Spain. 1.42M Which is basically what the article was saying. I know which country I’d rather be in! Mongolia?" Well it’s probably very safe there, considering how sparsely populated it is  | |||
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"As of yesterday, the total numbers of people to have received all doses as prescribed by the vaccination protocol are as follows: Germany 1.41M Italy 1.28M Spain. 1.00M Poland 641K France 634K UK 538K However, the numbers who have received one dose makes different reading: UK. 15.06M Germany. 2.74M France. 2.25M Italy. 1.71M Poland 1.47M Spain. 1.42M Which is basically what the article was saying. I know which country I’d rather be in! Mongolia? Well it’s probably very safe there, considering how sparsely populated it is "North Dakota is sparse they might have hit herd immunity. | |||
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"We should be ramping up second vaccines by middle of next month, as they become due. " Dont spoil his perceived moment of glory with government strategy. | |||
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"We should be ramping up second vaccines by middle of next month, as they become due. Dont spoil his perceived moment of glory with government strategy. "If Boris came and gave the vaccine personally in a golden syringe I think some people would moan it’s in the wrong arm. | |||
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"We should be ramping up second vaccines by middle of next month, as they become due. Dont spoil his perceived moment of glory with government strategy.
If Boris came and gave the vaccine personally in a golden syringe I think some people would moan it’s in the wrong arm. " | |||
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"Denmark and France are mentioned in the article France has 3.4% of population having received a vaccination - of which 0.9% of these are fully vaccinated. 96.6% of France is not protected with any vaccine Uk has 22.7% of population has received a vaccination - of which 0.8% of these are fully vaccinated. 77.3% of Uk is not protected with any vaccine. " Do we know how affective one dose of the vaccine is? I realise it’s better to have one than none but is there a big difference between have 2 and 1 ? | |||
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"We should be ramping up second vaccines by middle of next month, as they become due. Dont spoil his perceived moment of glory with government strategy. "By April, we should be doing several hundreds of thousands of second doses daily, as well as several hundred of thousands of first doses per day. | |||
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"I notice he's not emphasising the countries in the EU who are being left behind and their is a few" I read a piece which stated a lot of the smaller countries were very happy as left on their own, they would have been at the back of the queue. | |||
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"Denmark and France are mentioned in the article France has 3.4% of population having received a vaccination - of which 0.9% of these are fully vaccinated. 96.6% of France is not protected with any vaccine Uk has 22.7% of population has received a vaccination - of which 0.8% of these are fully vaccinated. 77.3% of Uk is not protected with any vaccine. Do we know how affective one dose of the vaccine is? I realise it’s better to have one than none but is there a big difference between have 2 and 1 ? " Pfizer 89% after one and 92% after two. AZ 64% after one and 70% after two. I believe | |||
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"Denmark and France are mentioned in the article France has 3.4% of population having received a vaccination - of which 0.9% of these are fully vaccinated. 96.6% of France is not protected with any vaccine Uk has 22.7% of population has received a vaccination - of which 0.8% of these are fully vaccinated. 77.3% of Uk is not protected with any vaccine. Do we know how affective one dose of the vaccine is? I realise it’s better to have one than none but is there a big difference between have 2 and 1 ? Pfizer 89% after one and 92% after two. AZ 64% after one and 70% after two. I believe" Although Pfizer said it's 52% afer one | |||
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"Denmark and France are mentioned in the article France has 3.4% of population having received a vaccination - of which 0.9% of these are fully vaccinated. 96.6% of France is not protected with any vaccine Uk has 22.7% of population has received a vaccination - of which 0.8% of these are fully vaccinated. 77.3% of Uk is not protected with any vaccine. Do we know how affective one dose of the vaccine is? I realise it’s better to have one than none but is there a big difference between have 2 and 1 ? " Depends on the vaccine being administered and the person receiving it. For example the AstraZeneca vaccine offers 64% protection after one dose compared with 70% after the second dose - with only a very small variation in these percentages for age range up to 70 years old and age range over 70 years old. | |||
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"I notice he's not emphasising the countries in the EU who are being left behind and their is a few I read a piece which stated a lot of the smaller countries were very happy as left on their own, they would have been at the back of the queue." Of course you did
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"I notice he's not emphasising the countries in the EU who are being left behind and their is a few I read a piece which stated a lot of the smaller countries were very happy as left on their own, they would have been at the back of the queue. Of course you did
I don't think you'd be so happy if you lived in one of those countries"Why not? The women in eastern Europe are amazing. | |||
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"Denmark and France are mentioned in the article France has 3.4% of population having received a vaccination - of which 0.9% of these are fully vaccinated. 96.6% of France is not protected with any vaccine Uk has 22.7% of population has received a vaccination - of which 0.8% of these are fully vaccinated. 77.3% of Uk is not protected with any vaccine. Do we know how affective one dose of the vaccine is? I realise it’s better to have one than none but is there a big difference between have 2 and 1 ? Depends on the vaccine being administered and the person receiving it. For example the AstraZeneca vaccine offers 64% protection after one dose compared with 70% after the second dose - with only a very small variation in these percentages for age range up to 70 years old and age range over 70 years old. " Ah right, so there isn’t that much difference between the 2 doses, 64% protection is quite low though | |||
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"I notice he's not emphasising the countries in the EU who are being left behind and their is a few I read a piece which stated a lot of the smaller countries were very happy as left on their own, they would have been at the back of the queue. Of course you did
I don't think you'd be so happy if you lived in one of those countries
Why not?
The women in eastern Europe are amazing."Not all of em i can assure you but lets keep on topic we're talking about the vaccine | |||
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"Denmark and France are mentioned in the article France has 3.4% of population having received a vaccination - of which 0.9% of these are fully vaccinated. 96.6% of France is not protected with any vaccine Uk has 22.7% of population has received a vaccination - of which 0.8% of these are fully vaccinated. 77.3% of Uk is not protected with any vaccine. Do we know how affective one dose of the vaccine is? I realise it’s better to have one than none but is there a big difference between have 2 and 1 ? Depends on the vaccine being administered and the person receiving it. For example the AstraZeneca vaccine offers 64% protection after one dose compared with 70% after the second dose - with only a very small variation in these percentages for age range up to 70 years old and age range over 70 years old. Ah right, so there isn’t that much difference between the 2 doses, 64% protection is quite low though " In theory anything above 40-50% efficacy will make a huge difference. All it's doing is speeding up the process of achieving immunity within the population. | |||
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"I notice he's not emphasising the countries in the EU who are being left behind and their is a few I read a piece which stated a lot of the smaller countries were very happy as left on their own, they would have been at the back of the queue. Of course you did
I don't think you'd be so happy if you lived in one of those countries
Why not?
The women in eastern Europe are amazing.
Not all of em i can assure you but lets keep on topic we're talking about the vaccine"You were the one who suggested moving? | |||
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"I notice he's not emphasising the countries in the EU who are being left behind and their is a few I read a piece which stated a lot of the smaller countries were very happy as left on their own, they would have been at the back of the queue. Of course you did
I don't think you'd be so happy if you lived in one of those countries
Why not?
The women in eastern Europe are amazing.
Not all of em i can assure you but lets keep on topic we're talking about the vaccine
You were the one who suggested moving?"I said you wouldn't be happy living in one of the EU countries who have very very minimal vaccine | |||
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"I notice he's not emphasising the countries in the EU who are being left behind and their is a few I read a piece which stated a lot of the smaller countries were very happy as left on their own, they would have been at the back of the queue. Of course you did
I don't think you'd be so happy if you lived in one of those countries
Why not?
The women in eastern Europe are amazing.
Not all of em i can assure you but lets keep on topic we're talking about the vaccine
You were the one who suggested moving?
I said you wouldn't be happy living in one of the EU countries who have very very minimal vaccine"Why.do I have to move there? | |||
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"I notice he's not emphasising the countries in the EU who are being left behind and their is a few I read a piece which stated a lot of the smaller countries were very happy as left on their own, they would have been at the back of the queue. Of course you did
I don't think you'd be so happy if you lived in one of those countries
Why not?
The women in eastern Europe are amazing.
Not all of em i can assure you but lets keep on topic we're talking about the vaccine
You were the one who suggested moving?
I said you wouldn't be happy living in one of the EU countries who have very very minimal vaccine
Why.do I have to move there?"No, please don't just be happy with BoJo looking after you and feeding you hand to mouth every month | |||
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"I notice he's not emphasising the countries in the EU who are being left behind and their is a few I read a piece which stated a lot of the smaller countries were very happy as left on their own, they would have been at the back of the queue. Of course you did
I don't think you'd be so happy if you lived in one of those countries
Why not?
The women in eastern Europe are amazing.
Not all of em i can assure you but lets keep on topic we're talking about the vaccine
You were the one who suggested moving?
I said you wouldn't be happy living in one of the EU countries who have very very minimal vaccine
Why.do I have to move there?
No, please don't just be happy with BoJo looking after you and feeding you hand to mouth every month" | |||
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"I notice he's not emphasising the countries in the EU who are being left behind and their is a few I read a piece which stated a lot of the smaller countries were very happy as left on their own, they would have been at the back of the queue. Of course you did
I don't think you'd be so happy if you lived in one of those countries
Why not?
The women in eastern Europe are amazing.
Not all of em i can assure you but lets keep on topic we're talking about the vaccine
You were the one who suggested moving?
I said you wouldn't be happy living in one of the EU countries who have very very minimal vaccine
Why.do I have to move there?
No, please don't just be happy with BoJo looking after you and feeding you hand to mouth every month"Good point I could do with shedding a few pounds. | |||
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"I notice he's not emphasising the countries in the EU who are being left behind and their is a few I read a piece which stated a lot of the smaller countries were very happy as left on their own, they would have been at the back of the queue. Of course you did
I don't think you'd be so happy if you lived in one of those countries
Why not?
The women in eastern Europe are amazing.
Not all of em i can assure you but lets keep on topic we're talking about the vaccine
You were the one who suggested moving?
I said you wouldn't be happy living in one of the EU countries who have very very minimal vaccine
Why.do I have to move there?
No, please don't just be happy with BoJo looking after you and feeding you hand to mouth every month
Good point
I could do with shedding a few pounds." well now that you've mentioned it | |||
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"Denmark and France are mentioned in the article " well France have done amazing they only had 2.4 million done last week | |||
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"A lot of this race people seem to be obsessed with, is going to be very pointless if we don’t wake up to the need for vaccines to be made available to the rest of the world. Scientist are now claiming if we don’t vaccinate the poorer parts of world fairly and just keep the vaccine for ourselves we may be in big trouble. Covid as we know can mutate quickly and the theory is, if we let it run riot in poorer countries it will have free reign to mutate over and over. Result our precious me first vaccine attitude won’t work as the mutations will have moved to many times for scientists to keep up. Back to square one. " Did you know that Canada has been drawing on Covax vacccine supplies? | |||
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"You cant look after others if you dont look after yourself 1st as they say in the plane demo put your mask on before helping others. "that’s a fact | |||
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"A lot of this race people seem to be obsessed with, is going to be very pointless if we don’t wake up to the need for vaccines to be made available to the rest of the world. Scientist are now claiming if we don’t vaccinate the poorer parts of world fairly and just keep the vaccine for ourselves we may be in big trouble. Covid as we know can mutate quickly and the theory is, if we let it run riot in poorer countries it will have free reign to mutate over and over. Result our precious me first vaccine attitude won’t work as the mutations will have moved to many times for scientists to keep up. Back to square one. " According to the stats there is more virus in the developed countries so in a way if it's cleared in those quickly and efficiently it's actually gonna help the spread surely? | |||
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"A lot of this race people seem to be obsessed with, is going to be very pointless if we don’t wake up to the need for vaccines to be made available to the rest of the world. Scientist are now claiming if we don’t vaccinate the poorer parts of world fairly and just keep the vaccine for ourselves we may be in big trouble. Covid as we know can mutate quickly and the theory is, if we let it run riot in poorer countries it will have free reign to mutate over and over. Result our precious me first vaccine attitude won’t work as the mutations will have moved to many times for scientists to keep up. Back to square one. Did you know that Canada has been drawing on Covax vacccine supplies? " Is that the scheme the uk put £548 million in and the whole of the eu only e500 million? | |||
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"Denmark and France are mentioned in the article France has 3.4% of population having received a vaccination - of which 0.9% of these are fully vaccinated. 96.6% of France is not protected with any vaccine Uk has 22.7% of population has received a vaccination - of which 0.8% of these are fully vaccinated. 77.3% of Uk is not protected with any vaccine. Do we know how affective one dose of the vaccine is? I realise it’s better to have one than none but is there a big difference between have 2 and 1 ? Depends on the vaccine being administered and the person receiving it. For example the AstraZeneca vaccine offers 64% protection after one dose compared with 70% after the second dose - with only a very small variation in these percentages for age range up to 70 years old and age range over 70 years old. Ah right, so there isn’t that much difference between the 2 doses, 64% protection is quite low though In theory anything above 40-50% efficacy will make a huge difference. All it's doing is speeding up the process of achieving immunity within the population. " True, I am not sure how only having just one dose will effect us in the long term but it is looking promising | |||
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"A lot of this race people seem to be obsessed with, is going to be very pointless if we don’t wake up to the need for vaccines to be made available to the rest of the world. Scientist are now claiming if we don’t vaccinate the poorer parts of world fairly and just keep the vaccine for ourselves we may be in big trouble. Covid as we know can mutate quickly and the theory is, if we let it run riot in poorer countries it will have free reign to mutate over and over. Result our precious me first vaccine attitude won’t work as the mutations will have moved to many times for scientists to keep up. Back to square one. Did you know that Canada has been drawing on Covax vacccine supplies? Is that the scheme the uk put £548 million in and the whole of the eu only e500 million?" Who agreed to that? | |||
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"You cant look after others if you dont look after yourself 1st as they say in the plane demo put your mask on before helping others. "As far as I know the Covid outbreak isn’t a falling plane and oxygen masks don’t behave the same way as a virus. Or perhaps you could look at your way, at the front of the plane is the New Zealand all blacks rugby team and their masks aren’t working whilst yours are they may just walk back and kick the shit out of you for being so selfish and not sharing the masks. | |||
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"Denmark and France are mentioned in the article France has 3.4% of population having received a vaccination - of which 0.9% of these are fully vaccinated. 96.6% of France is not protected with any vaccine Uk has 22.7% of population has received a vaccination - of which 0.8% of these are fully vaccinated. 77.3% of Uk is not protected with any vaccine. Do we know how affective one dose of the vaccine is? I realise it’s better to have one than none but is there a big difference between have 2 and 1 ? Depends on the vaccine being administered and the person receiving it. For example the AstraZeneca vaccine offers 64% protection after one dose compared with 70% after the second dose - with only a very small variation in these percentages for age range up to 70 years old and age range over 70 years old. Ah right, so there isn’t that much difference between the 2 doses, 64% protection is quite low though In theory anything above 40-50% efficacy will make a huge difference. All it's doing is speeding up the process of achieving immunity within the population. True, I am not sure how only having just one dose will effect us in the long term but it is looking promising " like you say you trust the experts rather than people on fab and the experts seem to think it’s a good idea mate | |||
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"You cant look after others if you dont look after yourself 1st as they say in the plane demo put your mask on before helping others.
As far as I know the Covid outbreak isn’t a falling plane and oxygen masks don’t behave the same way as a virus.
Or perhaps you could look at your way, at the front of the plane is the New Zealand all blacks rugby team and their masks aren’t working whilst yours are they may just walk back and kick the shit out of you for being so selfish and not sharing the masks.
"Missed the point entirely i see. | |||
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"You cant look after others if you dont look after yourself 1st as they say in the plane demo put your mask on before helping others.
As far as I know the Covid outbreak isn’t a falling plane and oxygen masks don’t behave the same way as a virus.
Or perhaps you could look at your way, at the front of the plane is the New Zealand all blacks rugby team and their masks aren’t working whilst yours are they may just walk back and kick the shit out of you for being so selfish and not sharing the masks.
"so if you and yr wife and kids are offered the vaccine are you going to take it up or offer it to someone else ? | |||
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"Denmark and France are mentioned in the article France has 3.4% of population having received a vaccination - of which 0.9% of these are fully vaccinated. 96.6% of France is not protected with any vaccine Uk has 22.7% of population has received a vaccination - of which 0.8% of these are fully vaccinated. 77.3% of Uk is not protected with any vaccine. Do we know how affective one dose of the vaccine is? I realise it’s better to have one than none but is there a big difference between have 2 and 1 ? Depends on the vaccine being administered and the person receiving it. For example the AstraZeneca vaccine offers 64% protection after one dose compared with 70% after the second dose - with only a very small variation in these percentages for age range up to 70 years old and age range over 70 years old. Ah right, so there isn’t that much difference between the 2 doses, 64% protection is quite low though In theory anything above 40-50% efficacy will make a huge difference. All it's doing is speeding up the process of achieving immunity within the population. True, I am not sure how only having just one dose will effect us in the long term but it is looking promising " | |||
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"You cant look after others if you dont look after yourself 1st as they say in the plane demo put your mask on before helping others.
As far as I know the Covid outbreak isn’t a falling plane and oxygen masks don’t behave the same way as a virus.
Or perhaps you could look at your way, at the front of the plane is the New Zealand all blacks rugby team and their masks aren’t working whilst yours are they may just walk back and kick the shit out of you for being so selfish and not sharing the masks.
so if you and yr wife and kids are offered the vaccine are you going to take it up or offer it to someone else ?"Using the current system , you will only get the vaccine when everyone who is more venerable gets theirs, | |||
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"You cant look after others if you dont look after yourself 1st as they say in the plane demo put your mask on before helping others.
As far as I know the Covid outbreak isn’t a falling plane and oxygen masks don’t behave the same way as a virus.
Or perhaps you could look at your way, at the front of the plane is the New Zealand all blacks rugby team and their masks aren’t working whilst yours are they may just walk back and kick the shit out of you for being so selfish and not sharing the masks.
Missed the point entirely i see. "Not at all The time and vaccines wasted giving under 60 year olds would be better spent spreading the vaccine around the world limiting the virus’ chance to mutate. To purely concentrate on ourselves would be wasted if the virus has had the chance to mutate over and over. It will risk Covid becoming a new disease. | |||
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"You cant look after others if you dont look after yourself 1st as they say in the plane demo put your mask on before helping others.
As far as I know the Covid outbreak isn’t a falling plane and oxygen masks don’t behave the same way as a virus.
Or perhaps you could look at your way, at the front of the plane is the New Zealand all blacks rugby team and their masks aren’t working whilst yours are they may just walk back and kick the shit out of you for being so selfish and not sharing the masks.
so if you and yr wife and kids are offered the vaccine are you going to take it up or offer it to someone else ?
Using the current system , you will only get the vaccine when everyone who is more venerable gets theirs, "The wise and respected to get the vaccine first ?? | |||
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"You cant look after others if you dont look after yourself 1st as they say in the plane demo put your mask on before helping others.
As far as I know the Covid outbreak isn’t a falling plane and oxygen masks don’t behave the same way as a virus.
Or perhaps you could look at your way, at the front of the plane is the New Zealand all blacks rugby team and their masks aren’t working whilst yours are they may just walk back and kick the shit out of you for being so selfish and not sharing the masks.
Missed the point entirely i see.
Not at all
The time and vaccines wasted giving under 60 year olds would be better spent spreading the vaccine around the world limiting the virus’ chance to mutate. To purely concentrate on ourselves would be wasted if the virus has had the chance to mutate over and over. It will risk Covid becoming a new disease. "Are you saying it's the over 60's who are spreading the virus? I thought they where the ones in danger of dying if younger family members visited or not? | |||
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"A lot of this race people seem to be obsessed with, is going to be very pointless if we don’t wake up to the need for vaccines to be made available to the rest of the world. Scientist are now claiming if we don’t vaccinate the poorer parts of world fairly and just keep the vaccine for ourselves we may be in big trouble. Covid as we know can mutate quickly and the theory is, if we let it run riot in poorer countries it will have free reign to mutate over and over. Result our precious me first vaccine attitude won’t work as the mutations will have moved to many times for scientists to keep up. Back to square one. " They had a thread in the virus forum along the lines of shall we help out the eu. The overwhelming majority was fuck em. | |||
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"You cant look after others if you dont look after yourself 1st as they say in the plane demo put your mask on before helping others.
As far as I know the Covid outbreak isn’t a falling plane and oxygen masks don’t behave the same way as a virus.
Or perhaps you could look at your way, at the front of the plane is the New Zealand all blacks rugby team and their masks aren’t working whilst yours are they may just walk back and kick the shit out of you for being so selfish and not sharing the masks.
Missed the point entirely i see.
Not at all
The time and vaccines wasted giving under 60 year olds would be better spent spreading the vaccine around the world limiting the virus’ chance to mutate. To purely concentrate on ourselves would be wasted if the virus has had the chance to mutate over and over. It will risk Covid becoming a new disease. "so you dont think that uk citizens under 60 should have the vaccine then.As i said before the uk has put £548 million into covax thats helping the poorer nations. | |||
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"You cant look after others if you dont look after yourself 1st as they say in the plane demo put your mask on before helping others.
As far as I know the Covid outbreak isn’t a falling plane and oxygen masks don’t behave the same way as a virus.
Or perhaps you could look at your way, at the front of the plane is the New Zealand all blacks rugby team and their masks aren’t working whilst yours are they may just walk back and kick the shit out of you for being so selfish and not sharing the masks.
so if you and yr wife and kids are offered the vaccine are you going to take it up or offer it to someone else ?"Is that a real question? 99% of under 50 year old just get a bad cold. Wouldn’t it be better to vaccinate the worlds vulnerable who may die? So if they said my kids or an older lady in Africa. The older lady gets it. Not a difficult decision really. Looking at the pics of my wife she’s fit enough for me not to worry. It’s not about the individual though is it it’s about how greedy and selfish we are, as the rich always want more than the poor even though we already have more. | |||
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"A lot of this race people seem to be obsessed with, is going to be very pointless if we don’t wake up to the need for vaccines to be made available to the rest of the world. Scientist are now claiming if we don’t vaccinate the poorer parts of world fairly and just keep the vaccine for ourselves we may be in big trouble. Covid as we know can mutate quickly and the theory is, if we let it run riot in poorer countries it will have free reign to mutate over and over. Result our precious me first vaccine attitude won’t work as the mutations will have moved to many times for scientists to keep up. Back to square one. They had a thread in the virus forum along the lines of shall we help out the eu. The overwhelming majority was fuck em." Well they did threaten to block deliveries to the UK eh | |||
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"You cant look after others if you dont look after yourself 1st as they say in the plane demo put your mask on before helping others.
As far as I know the Covid outbreak isn’t a falling plane and oxygen masks don’t behave the same way as a virus.
Or perhaps you could look at your way, at the front of the plane is the New Zealand all blacks rugby team and their masks aren’t working whilst yours are they may just walk back and kick the shit out of you for being so selfish and not sharing the masks.
Missed the point entirely i see.
Not at all
The time and vaccines wasted giving under 60 year olds would be better spent spreading the vaccine around the world limiting the virus’ chance to mutate. To purely concentrate on ourselves would be wasted if the virus has had the chance to mutate over and over. It will risk Covid becoming a new disease.
Are you saying it's the over 60's who are spreading the virus? I thought they where the ones in danger of dying if younger family members visited or not?"If you vaccinate the old antidote vulnerable it eases the pressure on the NHS. Makes perfect sense. | |||
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"You cant look after others if you dont look after yourself 1st as they say in the plane demo put your mask on before helping others.
As far as I know the Covid outbreak isn’t a falling plane and oxygen masks don’t behave the same way as a virus.
Or perhaps you could look at your way, at the front of the plane is the New Zealand all blacks rugby team and their masks aren’t working whilst yours are they may just walk back and kick the shit out of you for being so selfish and not sharing the masks.
Missed the point entirely i see.
Not at all
The time and vaccines wasted giving under 60 year olds would be better spent spreading the vaccine around the world limiting the virus’ chance to mutate. To purely concentrate on ourselves would be wasted if the virus has had the chance to mutate over and over. It will risk Covid becoming a new disease. so you dont think that uk citizens under 60 should have the vaccine then.As i said before the uk has put £548 million into covax thats helping the poorer nations."I’ve not criticised that in any way but availability is still not fairly shared no matter how many pound notes we give away. We should be giving it for free to those country’s less well off. | |||
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" They had a thread in the virus forum along the lines of shall we help out the eu. The overwhelming majority was fuck em." While I believe in all kinds of Aid (where it concerns the wellbeing of people) There really does come a time when you say: 'Charity begins at home'. | |||
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"You cant look after others if you dont look after yourself 1st as they say in the plane demo put your mask on before helping others.
As far as I know the Covid outbreak isn’t a falling plane and oxygen masks don’t behave the same way as a virus.
Or perhaps you could look at your way, at the front of the plane is the New Zealand all blacks rugby team and their masks aren’t working whilst yours are they may just walk back and kick the shit out of you for being so selfish and not sharing the masks.
Missed the point entirely i see.
Not at all
The time and vaccines wasted giving under 60 year olds would be better spent spreading the vaccine around the world limiting the virus’ chance to mutate. To purely concentrate on ourselves would be wasted if the virus has had the chance to mutate over and over. It will risk Covid becoming a new disease.
Are you saying it's the over 60's who are spreading the virus? I thought they where the ones in danger of dying if younger family members visited or not?"Read the post again . Stick and wrong end of come to mind. | |||
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" They had a thread in the virus forum along the lines of shall we help out the eu. The overwhelming majority was fuck em. While I believe in all kinds of Aid (where it concerns the wellbeing of people) There really does come a time when you say: 'Charity begins at home'." No it doesn’t that’s just a saying not reality. Like trade if your trading partner has nothing you don’t have a customer so you go hungry just the same. | |||
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"You cant look after others if you dont look after yourself 1st as they say in the plane demo put your mask on before helping others.
As far as I know the Covid outbreak isn’t a falling plane and oxygen masks don’t behave the same way as a virus.
Or perhaps you could look at your way, at the front of the plane is the New Zealand all blacks rugby team and their masks aren’t working whilst yours are they may just walk back and kick the shit out of you for being so selfish and not sharing the masks.
so if you and yr wife and kids are offered the vaccine are you going to take it up or offer it to someone else ?
Is that a real question? 99% of under 50 year old just get a bad cold. Wouldn’t it be better to vaccinate the worlds vulnerable who may die? So if they said my kids or an older lady in Africa. The older lady gets it. Not a difficult decision really. Looking at the pics of my wife she’s fit enough for me not to worry.
It’s not about the individual though is it it’s about how greedy and selfish we are, as the rich always want more than the poor even though we already have more. "well me and the wife have had ours and we are well under 60 amd fit but it’s not just about ourselves it’s about spreading it to others ain’t that why we all wear a mask | |||
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"You cant look after others if you dont look after yourself 1st as they say in the plane demo put your mask on before helping others.
As far as I know the Covid outbreak isn’t a falling plane and oxygen masks don’t behave the same way as a virus.
Or perhaps you could look at your way, at the front of the plane is the New Zealand all blacks rugby team and their masks aren’t working whilst yours are they may just walk back and kick the shit out of you for being so selfish and not sharing the masks.
so if you and yr wife and kids are offered the vaccine are you going to take it up or offer it to someone else ?
Is that a real question? 99% of under 50 year old just get a bad cold. Wouldn’t it be better to vaccinate the worlds vulnerable who may die? So if they said my kids or an older lady in Africa. The older lady gets it. Not a difficult decision really. Looking at the pics of my wife she’s fit enough for me not to worry.
It’s not about the individual though is it it’s about how greedy and selfish we are, as the rich always want more than the poor even though we already have more. "Yes im sure that would go down well with the British public no one under 60 is going to get a vaccine until the uk has made sure all of Africa has. | |||
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"You cant look after others if you dont look after yourself 1st as they say in the plane demo put your mask on before helping others.
As far as I know the Covid outbreak isn’t a falling plane and oxygen masks don’t behave the same way as a virus.
Or perhaps you could look at your way, at the front of the plane is the New Zealand all blacks rugby team and their masks aren’t working whilst yours are they may just walk back and kick the shit out of you for being so selfish and not sharing the masks.
so if you and yr wife and kids are offered the vaccine are you going to take it up or offer it to someone else ?
Using the current system , you will only get the vaccine when everyone who is more venerable gets theirs,
The wise and respected to get the vaccine first ?? "That is me at the bottom of the list | |||
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" They had a thread in the virus forum along the lines of shall we help out the eu. The overwhelming majority was fuck em. While I believe in all kinds of Aid (where it concerns the wellbeing of people) There really does come a time when you say: 'Charity begins at home'. No it doesn’t that’s just a saying not reality. Like trade if your trading partner has nothing you don’t have a customer so you go hungry just the same. " Of course charity begins at home. I mean just look at the school meals situation. | |||
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" They had a thread in the virus forum along the lines of shall we help out the eu. The overwhelming majority was fuck em. While I believe in all kinds of Aid (where it concerns the wellbeing of people) There really does come a time when you say: 'Charity begins at home'. No it doesn’t that’s just a saying not reality. Like trade if your trading partner has nothing you don’t have a customer so you go hungry just the same. " Actually yes it does - sort out the shit at your own front door before you try to sort it at someone elses. | |||
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"You cant look after others if you dont look after yourself 1st as they say in the plane demo put your mask on before helping others.
As far as I know the Covid outbreak isn’t a falling plane and oxygen masks don’t behave the same way as a virus.
Or perhaps you could look at your way, at the front of the plane is the New Zealand all blacks rugby team and their masks aren’t working whilst yours are they may just walk back and kick the shit out of you for being so selfish and not sharing the masks.
so if you and yr wife and kids are offered the vaccine are you going to take it up or offer it to someone else ?
Using the current system , you will only get the vaccine when everyone who is more venerable gets theirs,
The wise and respected to get the vaccine first ??
That is me at the bottom of the list "Same here  | |||
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"You cant look after others if you dont look after yourself 1st as they say in the plane demo put your mask on before helping others.
As far as I know the Covid outbreak isn’t a falling plane and oxygen masks don’t behave the same way as a virus.
Or perhaps you could look at your way, at the front of the plane is the New Zealand all blacks rugby team and their masks aren’t working whilst yours are they may just walk back and kick the shit out of you for being so selfish and not sharing the masks.
so if you and yr wife and kids are offered the vaccine are you going to take it up or offer it to someone else ?
Using the current system , you will only get the vaccine when everyone who is more venerable gets theirs,
The wise and respected to get the vaccine first ?? Glad you have finally realised.
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"You cant look after others if you dont look after yourself 1st as they say in the plane demo put your mask on before helping others.
As far as I know the Covid outbreak isn’t a falling plane and oxygen masks don’t behave the same way as a virus.
Or perhaps you could look at your way, at the front of the plane is the New Zealand all blacks rugby team and their masks aren’t working whilst yours are they may just walk back and kick the shit out of you for being so selfish and not sharing the masks.
so if you and yr wife and kids are offered the vaccine are you going to take it up or offer it to someone else ?
Is that a real question? 99% of under 50 year old just get a bad cold. Wouldn’t it be better to vaccinate the worlds vulnerable who may die? So if they said my kids or an older lady in Africa. The older lady gets it. Not a difficult decision really. Looking at the pics of my wife she’s fit enough for me not to worry.
It’s not about the individual though is it it’s about how greedy and selfish we are, as the rich always want more than the poor even though we already have more. Yes im sure that would go down well with the British public no one under 60 is going to get a vaccine until the uk has made sure all of Africa has. "And what happens if the virus mutates (to an extent that it bypasses the current vaccines) in another country where there has been none or very few vaccines . We are all back to square one again, it is a global pandemic that requires the world to be vaccinated | |||
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" They had a thread in the virus forum along the lines of shall we help out the eu. The overwhelming majority was fuck em. While I believe in all kinds of Aid (where it concerns the wellbeing of people) There really does come a time when you say: 'Charity begins at home'." Love it when people roll out the "charity begins at home" line. Yet don't give a fuck that the government won't help starving children right here. Meanwhile also don't care when the government gives £20+ billion to rich knob friends and neighbors of the Tories for crappy PPE. | |||
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" They had a thread in the virus forum along the lines of shall we help out the eu. The overwhelming majority was fuck em. While I believe in all kinds of Aid (where it concerns the wellbeing of people) There really does come a time when you say: 'Charity begins at home'. Love it when people roll out the "charity begins at home" line. Yet don't give a fuck that the government won't help starving children right here. Meanwhile also don't care when the government gives £20+ billion to rich knob friends and neighbors of the Tories for crappy PPE." It's a standard right wing trope. The money we give in overseas aid is the reason we have homelessness etc Absolute grade a bollocks. Its simply another way of blogging someone else for the problems we cause. | |||
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"You cant look after others if you dont look after yourself 1st as they say in the plane demo put your mask on before helping others.
As far as I know the Covid outbreak isn’t a falling plane and oxygen masks don’t behave the same way as a virus.
Or perhaps you could look at your way, at the front of the plane is the New Zealand all blacks rugby team and their masks aren’t working whilst yours are they may just walk back and kick the shit out of you for being so selfish and not sharing the masks.
so if you and yr wife and kids are offered the vaccine are you going to take it up or offer it to someone else ?
Is that a real question? 99% of under 50 year old just get a bad cold. Wouldn’t it be better to vaccinate the worlds vulnerable who may die? So if they said my kids or an older lady in Africa. The older lady gets it. Not a difficult decision really. Looking at the pics of my wife she’s fit enough for me not to worry.
It’s not about the individual though is it it’s about how greedy and selfish we are, as the rich always want more than the poor even though we already have more. Yes im sure that would go down well with the British public no one under 60 is going to get a vaccine until the uk has made sure all of Africa has. "Did I say all of Africa? | |||
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" They had a thread in the virus forum along the lines of shall we help out the eu. The overwhelming majority was fuck em. While I believe in all kinds of Aid (where it concerns the wellbeing of people) There really does come a time when you say: 'Charity begins at home'. Love it when people roll out the "charity begins at home" line. Yet don't give a fuck that the government won't help starving children right here. Meanwhile also don't care when the government gives £20+ billion to rich knob friends and neighbors of the Tories for crappy PPE." aw I think we all give a fuck mate but can I ask this is to anyone if you and your family are offered the vaccine who would turn it dow to offer it to some one else | |||
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"You cant look after others if you dont look after yourself 1st as they say in the plane demo put your mask on before helping others.
As far as I know the Covid outbreak isn’t a falling plane and oxygen masks don’t behave the same way as a virus.
Or perhaps you could look at your way, at the front of the plane is the New Zealand all blacks rugby team and their masks aren’t working whilst yours are they may just walk back and kick the shit out of you for being so selfish and not sharing the masks.
so if you and yr wife and kids are offered the vaccine are you going to take it up or offer it to someone else ?
Is that a real question? 99% of under 50 year old just get a bad cold. Wouldn’t it be better to vaccinate the worlds vulnerable who may die? So if they said my kids or an older lady in Africa. The older lady gets it. Not a difficult decision really. Looking at the pics of my wife she’s fit enough for me not to worry.
It’s not about the individual though is it it’s about how greedy and selfish we are, as the rich always want more than the poor even though we already have more. Yes im sure that would go down well with the British public no one under 60 is going to get a vaccine until the uk has made sure all of Africa has.
And what happens if the virus mutates (to an extent that it bypasses the current vaccines) in another country where there has been none or very few vaccines . We are all back to square one again, it is a global pandemic that requires the world to be vaccinated "Luckily the boffins are already working on that one. And so far all the variants are covered by what we currently have. | |||
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"You cant look after others if you dont look after yourself 1st as they say in the plane demo put your mask on before helping others.
As far as I know the Covid outbreak isn’t a falling plane and oxygen masks don’t behave the same way as a virus.
Or perhaps you could look at your way, at the front of the plane is the New Zealand all blacks rugby team and their masks aren’t working whilst yours are they may just walk back and kick the shit out of you for being so selfish and not sharing the masks.
so if you and yr wife and kids are offered the vaccine are you going to take it up or offer it to someone else ?
Is that a real question? 99% of under 50 year old just get a bad cold. Wouldn’t it be better to vaccinate the worlds vulnerable who may die? So if they said my kids or an older lady in Africa. The older lady gets it. Not a difficult decision really. Looking at the pics of my wife she’s fit enough for me not to worry.
It’s not about the individual though is it it’s about how greedy and selfish we are, as the rich always want more than the poor even though we already have more. Yes im sure that would go down well with the British public no one under 60 is going to get a vaccine until the uk has made sure all of Africa has.
And what happens if the virus mutates (to an extent that it bypasses the current vaccines) in another country where there has been none or very few vaccines . We are all back to square one again, it is a global pandemic that requires the world to be vaccinated "The interesting part of the the U.K.s global contribution to tackling covid is it doesn’t just extend to vaccines and money. The U.K., as a world leader in genome identification and tracking is opening up its facilities to poorer nations thereby giving them the ability to identify new variants and act much quicker . This benefits the country but also can help prevent the variants spreading. | |||
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" They had a thread in the virus forum along the lines of shall we help out the eu. The overwhelming majority was fuck em. While I believe in all kinds of Aid (where it concerns the wellbeing of people) There really does come a time when you say: 'Charity begins at home'. No it doesn’t that’s just a saying not reality. Like trade if your trading partner has nothing you don’t have a customer so you go hungry just the same. Actually yes it does - sort out the shit at your own front door before you try to sort it at someone elses." So why do we still have homeless and families living in shit hotels due to the lack of housing. Tell me again where the charity money for that went. PPE for some chums is a good start. For us to vaccinate the world would cost less that we’ve wasted on PPE | |||
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"You cant look after others if you dont look after yourself 1st as they say in the plane demo put your mask on before helping others.
As far as I know the Covid outbreak isn’t a falling plane and oxygen masks don’t behave the same way as a virus.
Or perhaps you could look at your way, at the front of the plane is the New Zealand all blacks rugby team and their masks aren’t working whilst yours are they may just walk back and kick the shit out of you for being so selfish and not sharing the masks.
Missed the point entirely i see.
Not at all
The time and vaccines wasted giving under 60 year olds would be better spent spreading the vaccine around the world limiting the virus’ chance to mutate. To purely concentrate on ourselves would be wasted if the virus has had the chance to mutate over and over. It will risk Covid becoming a new disease.
Are you saying it's the over 60's who are spreading the virus? I thought they where the ones in danger of dying if younger family members visited or not?
If you vaccinate the old antidote vulnerable it eases the pressure on the NHS.
Makes perfect sense."Doesn't help the poor countries, stay with us | |||
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" They had a thread in the virus forum along the lines of shall we help out the eu. The overwhelming majority was fuck em. While I believe in all kinds of Aid (where it concerns the wellbeing of people) There really does come a time when you say: 'Charity begins at home'. Love it when people roll out the "charity begins at home" line. Yet don't give a fuck that the government won't help starving children right here. Meanwhile also don't care when the government gives £20+ billion to rich knob friends and neighbors of the Tories for crappy PPE.aw I think we all give a fuck mate but can I ask this is to anyone if you and your family are offered the vaccine who would turn it dow to offer it to some one else " Loads of people come on here and all over the places saying shit like "the parents shouldn't buy cigarettes" etc. Those people don't give a fuck. Anyway, I would be in favour of helping families here with starving kids. And I would be in favour of rolling out the vaccine as quickly and efficiently here while offering to help any countries that are in dire need. If it helps save lives. Worthwhile. | |||
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" They had a thread in the virus forum along the lines of shall we help out the eu. The overwhelming majority was fuck em. While I believe in all kinds of Aid (where it concerns the wellbeing of people) There really does come a time when you say: 'Charity begins at home'. Love it when people roll out the "charity begins at home" line. Yet don't give a fuck that the government won't help starving children right here. Meanwhile also don't care when the government gives £20+ billion to rich knob friends and neighbors of the Tories for crappy PPE." Hence the term: "Charity begins at home". Also - you really don't know just what I ive a fuck about. | |||
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"You cant look after others if you dont look after yourself 1st as they say in the plane demo put your mask on before helping others.
As far as I know the Covid outbreak isn’t a falling plane and oxygen masks don’t behave the same way as a virus.
Or perhaps you could look at your way, at the front of the plane is the New Zealand all blacks rugby team and their masks aren’t working whilst yours are they may just walk back and kick the shit out of you for being so selfish and not sharing the masks.
Missed the point entirely i see.
Not at all
The time and vaccines wasted giving under 60 year olds would be better spent spreading the vaccine around the world limiting the virus’ chance to mutate. To purely concentrate on ourselves would be wasted if the virus has had the chance to mutate over and over. It will risk Covid becoming a new disease.
Are you saying it's the over 60's who are spreading the virus? I thought they where the ones in danger of dying if younger family members visited or not?
Read the post again . Stick and wrong end of come to mind. "But it's the younger ones who are spreading it not the older ones | |||
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" They had a thread in the virus forum along the lines of shall we help out the eu. The overwhelming majority was fuck em. While I believe in all kinds of Aid (where it concerns the wellbeing of people) There really does come a time when you say: 'Charity begins at home'. No it doesn’t that’s just a saying not reality. Like trade if your trading partner has nothing you don’t have a customer so you go hungry just the same. Actually yes it does - sort out the shit at your own front door before you try to sort it at someone elses. So why do we still have homeless and families living in shit hotels due to the lack of housing. Tell me again where the charity money for that went. PPE for some chums is a good start. For us to vaccinate the world would cost less that we’ve wasted on PPE " Why is it up to the poor little uk to do it i thought your mighty powerhouse of eu could after all they have all the clout in doing deals apparently? | |||
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" They had a thread in the virus forum along the lines of shall we help out the eu. The overwhelming majority was fuck em. While I believe in all kinds of Aid (where it concerns the wellbeing of people) There really does come a time when you say: 'Charity begins at home'. Love it when people roll out the "charity begins at home" line. Yet don't give a fuck that the government won't help starving children right here. Meanwhile also don't care when the government gives £20+ billion to rich knob friends and neighbors of the Tories for crappy PPE.aw I think we all give a fuck mate but can I ask this is to anyone if you and your family are offered the vaccine who would turn it dow to offer it to some one else Loads of people come on here and all over the places saying shit like "the parents shouldn't buy cigarettes" etc. Those people don't give a fuck. Anyway, I would be in favour of helping families here with starving kids. And I would be in favour of rolling out the vaccine as quickly and efficiently here while offering to help any countries that are in dire need. If it helps save lives. Worthwhile." but would you turn it down for you and your family and offer it to someone else tho ? | |||
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"You cant look after others if you dont look after yourself 1st as they say in the plane demo put your mask on before helping others.
As far as I know the Covid outbreak isn’t a falling plane and oxygen masks don’t behave the same way as a virus.
Or perhaps you could look at your way, at the front of the plane is the New Zealand all blacks rugby team and their masks aren’t working whilst yours are they may just walk back and kick the shit out of you for being so selfish and not sharing the masks.
so if you and yr wife and kids are offered the vaccine are you going to take it up or offer it to someone else ?
Is that a real question? 99% of under 50 year old just get a bad cold. Wouldn’t it be better to vaccinate the worlds vulnerable who may die? So if they said my kids or an older lady in Africa. The older lady gets it. Not a difficult decision really. Looking at the pics of my wife she’s fit enough for me not to worry.
It’s not about the individual though is it it’s about how greedy and selfish we are, as the rich always want more than the poor even though we already have more. Yes im sure that would go down well with the British public no one under 60 is going to get a vaccine until the uk has made sure all of Africa has.
And what happens if the virus mutates (to an extent that it bypasses the current vaccines) in another country where there has been none or very few vaccines . We are all back to square one again, it is a global pandemic that requires the world to be vaccinated
The interesting part of the the U.K.s global contribution to tackling covid is it doesn’t just extend to vaccines and money.
The U.K., as a world leader in genome identification and tracking is opening up its facilities to poorer nations thereby giving them the ability to identify new variants and act much quicker . This benefits the country but also can help prevent the variants spreading.
"You’re absolutely right we do leas the world in the genome programmes. My point is using that knowledge to knock out the virus globally to those who are vulnerable. I’m pointing the finger at the western world in general. We are a bigger version of Israel. Millions of vaccines for their population . A few thousand for the lands they occupy. How proud will we be to have survived. Fuck everyone else. | |||
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" They had a thread in the virus forum along the lines of shall we help out the eu. The overwhelming majority was fuck em. While I believe in all kinds of Aid (where it concerns the wellbeing of people) There really does come a time when you say: 'Charity begins at home'. Love it when people roll out the "charity begins at home" line. Yet don't give a fuck that the government won't help starving children right here. Meanwhile also don't care when the government gives £20+ billion to rich knob friends and neighbors of the Tories for crappy PPE.aw I think we all give a fuck mate but can I ask this is to anyone if you and your family are offered the vaccine who would turn it dow to offer it to some one else Loads of people come on here and all over the places saying shit like "the parents shouldn't buy cigarettes" etc. Those people don't give a fuck. Anyway, I would be in favour of helping families here with starving kids. And I would be in favour of rolling out the vaccine as quickly and efficiently here while offering to help any countries that are in dire need. If it helps save lives. Worthwhile. but would you turn it down for you and your family and offer it to someone else tho ?" Do you think under 50s here need it more than over 60s in the Sudan? | |||
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" They had a thread in the virus forum along the lines of shall we help out the eu. The overwhelming majority was fuck em. While I believe in all kinds of Aid (where it concerns the wellbeing of people) There really does come a time when you say: 'Charity begins at home'. Love it when people roll out the "charity begins at home" line. Yet don't give a fuck that the government won't help starving children right here. Meanwhile also don't care when the government gives £20+ billion to rich knob friends and neighbors of the Tories for crappy PPE. Hence the term: "Charity begins at home". Also - you really don't know just what I ive a fuck about. " Not aimed at you. Just I. General. People who say things like "charity begins at home" are often the same people who don't want the government to feed starving kids. I guess for the Tories charity begins with their rich neighbors. So it's close to home. | |||
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" They had a thread in the virus forum along the lines of shall we help out the eu. The overwhelming majority was fuck em. While I believe in all kinds of Aid (where it concerns the wellbeing of people) There really does come a time when you say: 'Charity begins at home'. Love it when people roll out the "charity begins at home" line. Yet don't give a fuck that the government won't help starving children right here. Meanwhile also don't care when the government gives £20+ billion to rich knob friends and neighbors of the Tories for crappy PPE.aw I think we all give a fuck mate but can I ask this is to anyone if you and your family are offered the vaccine who would turn it dow to offer it to some one else Loads of people come on here and all over the places saying shit like "the parents shouldn't buy cigarettes" etc. Those people don't give a fuck. Anyway, I would be in favour of helping families here with starving kids. And I would be in favour of rolling out the vaccine as quickly and efficiently here while offering to help any countries that are in dire need. If it helps save lives. Worthwhile. but would you turn it down for you and your family and offer it to someone else tho ?" Probably not. But maybe if it was someone on dire need. | |||
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" They had a thread in the virus forum along the lines of shall we help out the eu. The overwhelming majority was fuck em. While I believe in all kinds of Aid (where it concerns the wellbeing of people) There really does come a time when you say: 'Charity begins at home'. Love it when people roll out the "charity begins at home" line. Yet don't give a fuck that the government won't help starving children right here. Meanwhile also don't care when the government gives £20+ billion to rich knob friends and neighbors of the Tories for crappy PPE.aw I think we all give a fuck mate but can I ask this is to anyone if you and your family are offered the vaccine who would turn it dow to offer it to some one else Loads of people come on here and all over the places saying shit like "the parents shouldn't buy cigarettes" etc. Those people don't give a fuck. Anyway, I would be in favour of helping families here with starving kids. And I would be in favour of rolling out the vaccine as quickly and efficiently here while offering to help any countries that are in dire need. If it helps save lives. Worthwhile. but would you turn it down for you and your family and offer it to someone else tho ? Do you think under 50s here need it more than over 60s in the Sudan? " No. | |||
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" They had a thread in the virus forum along the lines of shall we help out the eu. The overwhelming majority was fuck em. While I believe in all kinds of Aid (where it concerns the wellbeing of people) There really does come a time when you say: 'Charity begins at home'. Love it when people roll out the "charity begins at home" line. Yet don't give a fuck that the government won't help starving children right here. Meanwhile also don't care when the government gives £20+ billion to rich knob friends and neighbors of the Tories for crappy PPE. Hence the term: "Charity begins at home". Also - you really don't know just what I ive a fuck about. Not aimed at you. Just I. General. People who say things like "charity begins at home" are often the same people who don't want the government to feed starving kids. I guess for the Tories charity begins with their rich neighbors. So it's close to home. " The term 'Charity begins at home' actually means 'FEED OUR CITIZENS FIRST'. So. They actually do give a fuck. | |||
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"You cant look after others if you dont look after yourself 1st as they say in the plane demo put your mask on before helping others.
As far as I know the Covid outbreak isn’t a falling plane and oxygen masks don’t behave the same way as a virus.
Or perhaps you could look at your way, at the front of the plane is the New Zealand all blacks rugby team and their masks aren’t working whilst yours are they may just walk back and kick the shit out of you for being so selfish and not sharing the masks.
so if you and yr wife and kids are offered the vaccine are you going to take it up or offer it to someone else ?
Is that a real question? 99% of under 50 year old just get a bad cold. Wouldn’t it be better to vaccinate the worlds vulnerable who may die? So if they said my kids or an older lady in Africa. The older lady gets it. Not a difficult decision really. Looking at the pics of my wife she’s fit enough for me not to worry.
It’s not about the individual though is it it’s about how greedy and selfish we are, as the rich always want more than the poor even though we already have more. Yes im sure that would go down well with the British public no one under 60 is going to get a vaccine until the uk has made sure all of Africa has.
And what happens if the virus mutates (to an extent that it bypasses the current vaccines) in another country where there has been none or very few vaccines . We are all back to square one again, it is a global pandemic that requires the world to be vaccinated
The interesting part of the the U.K.s global contribution to tackling covid is it doesn’t just extend to vaccines and money.
The U.K., as a world leader in genome identification and tracking is opening up its facilities to poorer nations thereby giving them the ability to identify new variants and act much quicker . This benefits the country but also can help prevent the variants spreading.
"Unfortunately that didn’t work very well with the Kent variant. The pandemic will only be under control when the world is sufficiently vaccinated, | |||
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" They had a thread in the virus forum along the lines of shall we help out the eu. The overwhelming majority was fuck em. While I believe in all kinds of Aid (where it concerns the wellbeing of people) There really does come a time when you say: 'Charity begins at home'. Love it when people roll out the "charity begins at home" line. Yet don't give a fuck that the government won't help starving children right here. Meanwhile also don't care when the government gives £20+ billion to rich knob friends and neighbors of the Tories for crappy PPE.aw I think we all give a fuck mate but can I ask this is to anyone if you and your family are offered the vaccine who would turn it dow to offer it to some one else Loads of people come on here and all over the places saying shit like "the parents shouldn't buy cigarettes" etc. Those people don't give a fuck. Anyway, I would be in favour of helping families here with starving kids. And I would be in favour of rolling out the vaccine as quickly and efficiently here while offering to help any countries that are in dire need. If it helps save lives. Worthwhile. but would you turn it down for you and your family and offer it to someone else tho ? Do you think under 50s here need it more than over 60s in the Sudan? " I don’t know do the under 50s have elderly or sick relatives it’s not just about protecting yourself it’s about killing of the spread lots of people say things like feed the world but would always feed there kids first it’s a lovely thing to say but bollocks really when me amd the wife got the vaccine we didn’t give Africa a second thought and most people who say they will are talking out there fucking arse | |||
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"You cant look after others if you dont look after yourself 1st as they say in the plane demo put your mask on before helping others.
As far as I know the Covid outbreak isn’t a falling plane and oxygen masks don’t behave the same way as a virus.
Or perhaps you could look at your way, at the front of the plane is the New Zealand all blacks rugby team and their masks aren’t working whilst yours are they may just walk back and kick the shit out of you for being so selfish and not sharing the masks.
so if you and yr wife and kids are offered the vaccine are you going to take it up or offer it to someone else ?
Is that a real question? 99% of under 50 year old just get a bad cold. Wouldn’t it be better to vaccinate the worlds vulnerable who may die? So if they said my kids or an older lady in Africa. The older lady gets it. Not a difficult decision really. Looking at the pics of my wife she’s fit enough for me not to worry.
It’s not about the individual though is it it’s about how greedy and selfish we are, as the rich always want more than the poor even though we already have more. Yes im sure that would go down well with the British public no one under 60 is going to get a vaccine until the uk has made sure all of Africa has.
And what happens if the virus mutates (to an extent that it bypasses the current vaccines) in another country where there has been none or very few vaccines . We are all back to square one again, it is a global pandemic that requires the world to be vaccinated
The interesting part of the the U.K.s global contribution to tackling covid is it doesn’t just extend to vaccines and money.
The U.K., as a world leader in genome identification and tracking is opening up its facilities to poorer nations thereby giving them the ability to identify new variants and act much quicker . This benefits the country but also can help prevent the variants spreading.
Unfortunately that didn’t work very well with the Kent variant. The pandemic will only be under control when the world is sufficiently vaccinated, "And while we can't vaccinate citizens of another country - let's do our best to get on with vaccinating our own. And maybe - just maybe - say well done so far. | |||
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" They had a thread in the virus forum along the lines of shall we help out the eu. The overwhelming majority was fuck em. While I believe in all kinds of Aid (where it concerns the wellbeing of people) There really does come a time when you say: 'Charity begins at home'. Love it when people roll out the "charity begins at home" line. Yet don't give a fuck that the government won't help starving children right here. Meanwhile also don't care when the government gives £20+ billion to rich knob friends and neighbors of the Tories for crappy PPE. Hence the term: "Charity begins at home". Also - you really don't know just what I ive a fuck about. Not aimed at you. Just I. General. People who say things like "charity begins at home" are often the same people who don't want the government to feed starving kids. I guess for the Tories charity begins with their rich neighbors. So it's close to home. The term 'Charity begins at home' actually means 'FEED OUR CITIZENS FIRST'. So. They actually do give a fuck. " I agree with your first part. But in reality, the same people who say want to cut foreign aid to spend the money here also hound the shit out of anyone that suggests Rashford had a point about feeding starving kids. | |||
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" They had a thread in the virus forum along the lines of shall we help out the eu. The overwhelming majority was fuck em. While I believe in all kinds of Aid (where it concerns the wellbeing of people) There really does come a time when you say: 'Charity begins at home'. No it doesn’t that’s just a saying not reality. Like trade if your trading partner has nothing you don’t have a customer so you go hungry just the same. Actually yes it does - sort out the shit at your own front door before you try to sort it at someone elses. So why do we still have homeless and families living in shit hotels due to the lack of housing. Tell me again where the charity money for that went. PPE for some chums is a good start. For us to vaccinate the world would cost less that we’ve wasted on PPE Why is it up to the poor little uk to do it i thought your mighty powerhouse of eu could after all they have all the clout in doing deals apparently?" Not sure what the EU has to do with any of my points as I’ve not mentioned them. You must stop this obsession. As I said the money wasted on PPE would vaccinate most of the world. So when you walk down the street and you see person raising charity for say the local hospice do you stop and interrogate them on how much everyone else has given before you decide whether to give or not? Strange charitable view | |||
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"You cant look after others if you dont look after yourself 1st as they say in the plane demo put your mask on before helping others.
As far as I know the Covid outbreak isn’t a falling plane and oxygen masks don’t behave the same way as a virus.
Or perhaps you could look at your way, at the front of the plane is the New Zealand all blacks rugby team and their masks aren’t working whilst yours are they may just walk back and kick the shit out of you for being so selfish and not sharing the masks.
so if you and yr wife and kids are offered the vaccine are you going to take it up or offer it to someone else ?
Is that a real question? 99% of under 50 year old just get a bad cold. Wouldn’t it be better to vaccinate the worlds vulnerable who may die? So if they said my kids or an older lady in Africa. The older lady gets it. Not a difficult decision really. Looking at the pics of my wife she’s fit enough for me not to worry.
It’s not about the individual though is it it’s about how greedy and selfish we are, as the rich always want more than the poor even though we already have more. Yes im sure that would go down well with the British public no one under 60 is going to get a vaccine until the uk has made sure all of Africa has.
And what happens if the virus mutates (to an extent that it bypasses the current vaccines) in another country where there has been none or very few vaccines . We are all back to square one again, it is a global pandemic that requires the world to be vaccinated
The interesting part of the the U.K.s global contribution to tackling covid is it doesn’t just extend to vaccines and money.
The U.K., as a world leader in genome identification and tracking is opening up its facilities to poorer nations thereby giving them the ability to identify new variants and act much quicker . This benefits the country but also can help prevent the variants spreading.
Unfortunately that didn’t work very well with the Kent variant. The pandemic will only be under control when the world is sufficiently vaccinated, "Well it did as the uk identified it very quickly informed the world and about 40 countries put a travel ban on.It would have spread much further and quicker if they had not been so quick. | |||
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"You cant look after others if you dont look after yourself 1st as they say in the plane demo put your mask on before helping others.
As far as I know the Covid outbreak isn’t a falling plane and oxygen masks don’t behave the same way as a virus.
Or perhaps you could look at your way, at the front of the plane is the New Zealand all blacks rugby team and their masks aren’t working whilst yours are they may just walk back and kick the shit out of you for being so selfish and not sharing the masks.
so if you and yr wife and kids are offered the vaccine are you going to take it up or offer it to someone else ?
Is that a real question? 99% of under 50 year old just get a bad cold. Wouldn’t it be better to vaccinate the worlds vulnerable who may die? So if they said my kids or an older lady in Africa. The older lady gets it. Not a difficult decision really. Looking at the pics of my wife she’s fit enough for me not to worry.
It’s not about the individual though is it it’s about how greedy and selfish we are, as the rich always want more than the poor even though we already have more. Yes im sure that would go down well with the British public no one under 60 is going to get a vaccine until the uk has made sure all of Africa has.
And what happens if the virus mutates (to an extent that it bypasses the current vaccines) in another country where there has been none or very few vaccines . We are all back to square one again, it is a global pandemic that requires the world to be vaccinated
The interesting part of the the U.K.s global contribution to tackling covid is it doesn’t just extend to vaccines and money.
The U.K., as a world leader in genome identification and tracking is opening up its facilities to poorer nations thereby giving them the ability to identify new variants and act much quicker . This benefits the country but also can help prevent the variants spreading.
Unfortunately that didn’t work very well with the Kent variant. The pandemic will only be under control when the world is sufficiently vaccinated, "so are you and your family going to turn it down if offered then ? | |||
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" They had a thread in the virus forum along the lines of shall we help out the eu. The overwhelming majority was fuck em. While I believe in all kinds of Aid (where it concerns the wellbeing of people) There really does come a time when you say: 'Charity begins at home'. No it doesn’t that’s just a saying not reality. Like trade if your trading partner has nothing you don’t have a customer so you go hungry just the same. Actually yes it does - sort out the shit at your own front door before you try to sort it at someone elses. So why do we still have homeless and families living in shit hotels due to the lack of housing. Tell me again where the charity money for that went. PPE for some chums is a good start. For us to vaccinate the world would cost less that we’ve wasted on PPE Why is it up to the poor little uk to do it i thought your mighty powerhouse of eu could after all they have all the clout in doing deals apparently? Not sure what the EU has to do with any of my points as I’ve not mentioned them. You must stop this obsession. As I said the money wasted on PPE would vaccinate most of the world. So when you walk down the street and you see person raising charity for say the local hospice do you stop and interrogate them on how much everyone else has given before you decide whether to give or not? Strange charitable view " | |||
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" They had a thread in the virus forum along the lines of shall we help out the eu. The overwhelming majority was fuck em. While I believe in all kinds of Aid (where it concerns the wellbeing of people) There really does come a time when you say: 'Charity begins at home'. Love it when people roll out the "charity begins at home" line. Yet don't give a fuck that the government won't help starving children right here. Meanwhile also don't care when the government gives £20+ billion to rich knob friends and neighbors of the Tories for crappy PPE. Hence the term: "Charity begins at home". Also - you really don't know just what I ive a fuck about. Not aimed at you. Just I. General. People who say things like "charity begins at home" are often the same people who don't want the government to feed starving kids. I guess for the Tories charity begins with their rich neighbors. So it's close to home. The term 'Charity begins at home' actually means 'FEED OUR CITIZENS FIRST'. So. They actually do give a fuck. I agree with your first part. But in reality, the same people who say want to cut foreign aid to spend the money here also hound the shit out of anyone that suggests Rashford had a point about feeding starving kids. " It's your opinion that people are saying that - you provide no proof - you just reeled out the sentence with no back-up. Easy to say and nothing to back it up. Show me just ONE name of a real livinf person that says 'charity begins at home' and then says 'fuck those who need our foodbanks'? | |||
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"You cant look after others if you dont look after yourself 1st as they say in the plane demo put your mask on before helping others.
As far as I know the Covid outbreak isn’t a falling plane and oxygen masks don’t behave the same way as a virus.
Or perhaps you could look at your way, at the front of the plane is the New Zealand all blacks rugby team and their masks aren’t working whilst yours are they may just walk back and kick the shit out of you for being so selfish and not sharing the masks.
so if you and yr wife and kids are offered the vaccine are you going to take it up or offer it to someone else ?
Is that a real question? 99% of under 50 year old just get a bad cold. Wouldn’t it be better to vaccinate the worlds vulnerable who may die? So if they said my kids or an older lady in Africa. The older lady gets it. Not a difficult decision really. Looking at the pics of my wife she’s fit enough for me not to worry.
It’s not about the individual though is it it’s about how greedy and selfish we are, as the rich always want more than the poor even though we already have more. Yes im sure that would go down well with the British public no one under 60 is going to get a vaccine until the uk has made sure all of Africa has.
And what happens if the virus mutates (to an extent that it bypasses the current vaccines) in another country where there has been none or very few vaccines . We are all back to square one again, it is a global pandemic that requires the world to be vaccinated
The interesting part of the the U.K.s global contribution to tackling covid is it doesn’t just extend to vaccines and money.
The U.K., as a world leader in genome identification and tracking is opening up its facilities to poorer nations thereby giving them the ability to identify new variants and act much quicker . This benefits the country but also can help prevent the variants spreading.
Unfortunately that didn’t work very well with the Kent variant. The pandemic will only be under control when the world is sufficiently vaccinated,
And while we can't vaccinate citizens of another country - let's do our best to get on with vaccinating our own.
And maybe - just maybe - say well done so far."Yes, well done so far, and when the whole country is vaccinated I am sure we will have most of our ‘freedoms’ back . We can’t get complacent though, it is a global pandemic | |||
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" They had a thread in the virus forum along the lines of shall we help out the eu. The overwhelming majority was fuck em. While I believe in all kinds of Aid (where it concerns the wellbeing of people) There really does come a time when you say: 'Charity begins at home'. Love it when people roll out the "charity begins at home" line. Yet don't give a fuck that the government won't help starving children right here. Meanwhile also don't care when the government gives £20+ billion to rich knob friends and neighbors of the Tories for crappy PPE. Hence the term: "Charity begins at home". Also - you really don't know just what I ive a fuck about. Not aimed at you. Just I. General. People who say things like "charity begins at home" are often the same people who don't want the government to feed starving kids. I guess for the Tories charity begins with their rich neighbors. So it's close to home. The term 'Charity begins at home' actually means 'FEED OUR CITIZENS FIRST'. So. They actually do give a fuck. I agree with your first part. But in reality, the same people who say want to cut foreign aid to spend the money here also hound the shit out of anyone that suggests Rashford had a point about feeding starving kids. It's your opinion that people are saying that - you provide no proof - you just reeled out the sentence with no back-up. Easy to say and nothing to back it up. Show me just ONE name of a real livinf person that says 'charity begins at home' and then says 'fuck those who need our foodbanks'? " ‘Charity begins at home’ is taken from a 1642 book and if you read the entire verse it doesn’t mean what you think it does , but that is a debate for another time | |||
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" They had a thread in the virus forum along the lines of shall we help out the eu. The overwhelming majority was fuck em. While I believe in all kinds of Aid (where it concerns the wellbeing of people) There really does come a time when you say: 'Charity begins at home'. Love it when people roll out the "charity begins at home" line. Yet don't give a fuck that the government won't help starving children right here. Meanwhile also don't care when the government gives £20+ billion to rich knob friends and neighbors of the Tories for crappy PPE. Hence the term: "Charity begins at home". Also - you really don't know just what I ive a fuck about. Not aimed at you. Just I. General. People who say things like "charity begins at home" are often the same people who don't want the government to feed starving kids. I guess for the Tories charity begins with their rich neighbors. So it's close to home. The term 'Charity begins at home' actually means 'FEED OUR CITIZENS FIRST'. So. They actually do give a fuck. I agree with your first part. But in reality, the same people who say want to cut foreign aid to spend the money here also hound the shit out of anyone that suggests Rashford had a point about feeding starving kids. It's your opinion that people are saying that - you provide no proof - you just reeled out the sentence with no back-up. Easy to say and nothing to back it up. Show me just ONE name of a real livinf person that says 'charity begins at home' and then says 'fuck those who need our foodbanks'? " Lowest common denominator argument. You know full well this is a standard Tory viewpoint. Rees Mogg has both those view points. | |||
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"Still no one saying them or there family would turn down the vaccine to give to someone else " Of course they won't - righteous politics (the power of sounding good but not real) wouldn't allow them too lol. | |||
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" They had a thread in the virus forum along the lines of shall we help out the eu. The overwhelming majority was fuck em. While I believe in all kinds of Aid (where it concerns the wellbeing of people) There really does come a time when you say: 'Charity begins at home'. Love it when people roll out the "charity begins at home" line. Yet don't give a fuck that the government won't help starving children right here. Meanwhile also don't care when the government gives £20+ billion to rich knob friends and neighbors of the Tories for crappy PPE. Hence the term: "Charity begins at home". Also - you really don't know just what I ive a fuck about. Not aimed at you. Just I. General. People who say things like "charity begins at home" are often the same people who don't want the government to feed starving kids. I guess for the Tories charity begins with their rich neighbors. So it's close to home. The term 'Charity begins at home' actually means 'FEED OUR CITIZENS FIRST'. So. They actually do give a fuck. I agree with your first part. But in reality, the same people who say want to cut foreign aid to spend the money here also hound the shit out of anyone that suggests Rashford had a point about feeding starving kids. It's your opinion that people are saying that - you provide no proof - you just reeled out the sentence with no back-up. Easy to say and nothing to back it up. Show me just ONE name of a real livinf person that says 'charity begins at home' and then says 'fuck those who need our foodbanks'? Lowest common denominator argument. You know full well this is a standard Tory viewpoint. Rees Mogg has both those view points. " In your opinion - No Facts however? | |||
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"Still no one saying them or there family would turn down the vaccine to give to someone else " Would you ? Would you give money to charity that could be spent on your kids? Would you give your time to help others that could be given to your family and friends? Would you have the vaccine if it prevented an elderly or vulnerable person from having it? I know I would , and my friend and family would do the same | |||
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" They had a thread in the virus forum along the lines of shall we help out the eu. The overwhelming majority was fuck em. While I believe in all kinds of Aid (where it concerns the wellbeing of people) There really does come a time when you say: 'Charity begins at home'. Love it when people roll out the "charity begins at home" line. Yet don't give a fuck that the government won't help starving children right here. Meanwhile also don't care when the government gives £20+ billion to rich knob friends and neighbors of the Tories for crappy PPE. Hence the term: "Charity begins at home". Also - you really don't know just what I ive a fuck about. Not aimed at you. Just I. General. People who say things like "charity begins at home" are often the same people who don't want the government to feed starving kids. I guess for the Tories charity begins with their rich neighbors. So it's close to home. The term 'Charity begins at home' actually means 'FEED OUR CITIZENS FIRST'. So. They actually do give a fuck. I agree with your first part. But in reality, the same people who say want to cut foreign aid to spend the money here also hound the shit out of anyone that suggests Rashford had a point about feeding starving kids. It's your opinion that people are saying that - you provide no proof - you just reeled out the sentence with no back-up. Easy to say and nothing to back it up. Show me just ONE name of a real livinf person that says 'charity begins at home' and then says 'fuck those who need our foodbanks'? ‘Charity begins at home’ is taken from a 1642 book and if you read the entire verse it doesn’t mean what you think it does , but that is a debate for another time "You sure?? | |||
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" They had a thread in the virus forum along the lines of shall we help out the eu. The overwhelming majority was fuck em. While I believe in all kinds of Aid (where it concerns the wellbeing of people) There really does come a time when you say: 'Charity begins at home'. Love it when people roll out the "charity begins at home" line. Yet don't give a fuck that the government won't help starving children right here. Meanwhile also don't care when the government gives £20+ billion to rich knob friends and neighbors of the Tories for crappy PPE. Hence the term: "Charity begins at home". Also - you really don't know just what I ive a fuck about. Not aimed at you. Just I. General. People who say things like "charity begins at home" are often the same people who don't want the government to feed starving kids. I guess for the Tories charity begins with their rich neighbors. So it's close to home. The term 'Charity begins at home' actually means 'FEED OUR CITIZENS FIRST'. So. They actually do give a fuck. I agree with your first part. But in reality, the same people who say want to cut foreign aid to spend the money here also hound the shit out of anyone that suggests Rashford had a point about feeding starving kids. It's your opinion that people are saying that - you provide no proof - you just reeled out the sentence with no back-up. Easy to say and nothing to back it up. Show me just ONE name of a real livinf person that says 'charity begins at home' and then says 'fuck those who need our foodbanks'? ‘Charity begins at home’ is taken from a 1642 book and if you read the entire verse it doesn’t mean what you think it does , but that is a debate for another time "In common usage it means to get your own shit sorted before you fix someone elses. | |||
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" They had a thread in the virus forum along the lines of shall we help out the eu. The overwhelming majority was fuck em. While I believe in all kinds of Aid (where it concerns the wellbeing of people) There really does come a time when you say: 'Charity begins at home'. Love it when people roll out the "charity begins at home" line. Yet don't give a fuck that the government won't help starving children right here. Meanwhile also don't care when the government gives £20+ billion to rich knob friends and neighbors of the Tories for crappy PPE. Hence the term: "Charity begins at home". Also - you really don't know just what I ive a fuck about. Not aimed at you. Just I. General. People who say things like "charity begins at home" are often the same people who don't want the government to feed starving kids. I guess for the Tories charity begins with their rich neighbors. So it's close to home. The term 'Charity begins at home' actually means 'FEED OUR CITIZENS FIRST'. So. They actually do give a fuck. I agree with your first part. But in reality, the same people who say want to cut foreign aid to spend the money here also hound the shit out of anyone that suggests Rashford had a point about feeding starving kids. It's your opinion that people are saying that - you provide no proof - you just reeled out the sentence with no back-up. Easy to say and nothing to back it up. Show me just ONE name of a real livinf person that says 'charity begins at home' and then says 'fuck those who need our foodbanks'? Lowest common denominator argument. You know full well this is a standard Tory viewpoint. Rees Mogg has both those view points. In your opinion - No Facts however?" Apart from the Rees Mogg example. Your view is your opinion. No facts however. | |||
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"Still no one saying them or there family would turn down the vaccine to give to someone else Of course they won't - righteous politics (the power of sounding good but not real) wouldn't allow them too lol. Do you ever give your money or your time to charity? " | |||
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"charity begins at home phrase of charity proverb a person's first responsibility is for the needs of their own family and friends." It was taken from a verse , it’s true meaning has been altered | |||
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"Still no one saying them or there family would turn down the vaccine to give to someone else Of course they won't - righteous politics (the power of sounding good but not real) wouldn't allow them too lol. Do you ever give your money or your time to charity? "Maybe you should ask - have I ever not. | |||
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"Still no one saying them or there family would turn down the vaccine to give to someone else " Because it's not a valid comparison | |||
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"charity begins at home phrase of charity proverb a person's first responsibility is for the needs of their own family and friends. It was taken from a verse , it’s true meaning has been altered " Again - it's current use is to mean: (and as I don't currently live in the 1600's) charity begins at home phrase of charity proverb a person's first responsibility is for the needs of their own family and friends. | |||
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"Still no one saying them or there family would turn down the vaccine to give to someone else Because it's not a valid comparison " Then give it one for us Lionel? | |||
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"Still no one saying them or there family would turn down the vaccine to give to someone else Because it's not a valid comparison Then give it one for us Lionel?" I wasnt the one making the comparison | |||
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"charity begins at home phrase of charity proverb a person's first responsibility is for the needs of their own family and friends. It was taken from a verse , it’s true meaning has been altered Again - it's current use is to mean: (and as I don't currently live in the 1600's) charity begins at home phrase of charity proverb a person's first responsibility is for the needs of their own family and friends." Well you camt deny the gmnt are good are that | |||
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"Still no one saying them or there family would turn down the vaccine to give to someone else Because it's not a valid comparison Then give it one for us Lionel? I wasnt the one making the comparison" Yet you wanted to answer it? | |||
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"Still no one saying them or there family would turn down the vaccine to give to someone else Would you ? Would you give money to charity that could be spent on your kids? Would you give your time to help others that could be given to your family and friends? Would you have the vaccine if it prevented an elderly or vulnerable person from having it? I know I would , and my friend and family would do the same " we’ve had the vaccine buddy if you’ve read the posts lol soon you would then amd your family would turn it down good for yous very righteous of you I only asked you one question got 4 back wonder why you got so upset must of been a harder question to answer than I thought lol | |||
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"charity begins at home phrase of charity proverb a person's first responsibility is for the needs of their own family and friends. It was taken from a verse , it’s true meaning has been altered Again - it's current use is to mean: (and as I don't currently live in the 1600's) charity begins at home phrase of charity proverb a person's first responsibility is for the needs of their own family and friends. Well you camt deny the gmnt are good are that " Useful sentence. 15 million people vaccinated - all tories I guess? | |||
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" They had a thread in the virus forum along the lines of shall we help out the eu. The overwhelming majority was fuck em. While I believe in all kinds of Aid (where it concerns the wellbeing of people) There really does come a time when you say: 'Charity begins at home'. Love it when people roll out the "charity begins at home" line. Yet don't give a fuck that the government won't help starving children right here. Meanwhile also don't care when the government gives £20+ billion to rich knob friends and neighbors of the Tories for crappy PPE.aw I think we all give a fuck mate but can I ask this is to anyone if you and your family are offered the vaccine who would turn it dow to offer it to some one else Loads of people come on here and all over the places saying shit like "the parents shouldn't buy cigarettes" etc. Those people don't give a fuck. Anyway, I would be in favour of helping families here with starving kids. And I would be in favour of rolling out the vaccine as quickly and efficiently here while offering to help any countries that are in dire need. If it helps save lives. Worthwhile. but would you turn it down for you and your family and offer it to someone else tho ? Do you think under 50s here need it more than over 60s in the Sudan? " YES in the Sudan 44m pop and only 27k infected, so less people to spread the virus | |||
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"Still no one saying them or there family would turn down the vaccine to give to someone else Of course they won't - righteous politics (the power of sounding good but not real) wouldn't allow them too lol. Do you ever give your money or your time to charity?
Maybe you should ask - have I ever not."Then you are not following ‘charity begins at home ‘ because in reality , if we all did that the world would be a horrible and selfish place to be | |||
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"Still no one saying them or there family would turn down the vaccine to give to someone else Of course they won't - righteous politics (the power of sounding good but not real) wouldn't allow them too lol. Do you ever give your money or your time to charity?
Maybe you should ask - have I ever not.
Then you are not following ‘charity begins at home ‘ because in reality , if we all did that the world would be a horrible and selfish place to be "Oh how so? I give to UK charities that give to uk outlets. | |||
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"Still no one saying them or there family would turn down the vaccine to give to someone else Of course they won't - righteous politics (the power of sounding good but not real) wouldn't allow them too lol. Do you ever give your money or your time to charity?
Maybe you should ask - have I ever not.
Then you are not following ‘charity begins at home ‘ because in reality , if we all did that the world would be a horrible and selfish place to be "because it’s not already lol | |||
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"Still no one saying them or there family would turn down the vaccine to give to someone else Of course they won't - righteous politics (the power of sounding good but not real) wouldn't allow them too lol. Do you ever give your money or your time to charity?
Maybe you should ask - have I ever not.
Then you are not following ‘charity begins at home ‘ because in reality , if we all did that the world would be a horrible and selfish place to be
Oh how so? I give to UK charities that give to uk outlets."Do they give it to your family and friends? or are you classing the population of the UK as home? | |||
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"Still no one saying them or there family would turn down the vaccine to give to someone else Of course they won't - righteous politics (the power of sounding good but not real) wouldn't allow them too lol. Do you ever give your money or your time to charity?
Maybe you should ask - have I ever not.
Then you are not following ‘charity begins at home ‘ because in reality , if we all did that the world would be a horrible and selfish place to be because it’s not already lol"Depends what ‘world’ you are living in . | |||
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"Still no one saying them or there family would turn down the vaccine to give to someone else Of course they won't - righteous politics (the power of sounding good but not real) wouldn't allow them too lol. Do you ever give your money or your time to charity?
Maybe you should ask - have I ever not.
Then you are not following ‘charity begins at home ‘ because in reality , if we all did that the world would be a horrible and selfish place to be
Oh how so? I give to UK charities that give to uk outlets.
Do they give it to your family and friends? or are you classing the population of the UK as home? "Oh stop being stupid. My HOME is in the UK. Deary me. | |||
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"Still no one saying them or there family would turn down the vaccine to give to someone else Of course they won't - righteous politics (the power of sounding good but not real) wouldn't allow them too lol. Do you ever give your money or your time to charity?
Maybe you should ask - have I ever not.
Then you are not following ‘charity begins at home ‘ because in reality , if we all did that the world would be a horrible and selfish place to be
Oh how so? I give to UK charities that give to uk outlets.
Do they give it to your family and friends? or are you classing the population of the UK as home?
Oh stop being stupid. My HOME is in the UK. Deary me."I was asking an honest question, and I get where your coming from, you class home as the UK and not the specific place where your from . | |||
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"Still no one saying them or there family would turn down the vaccine to give to someone else Of course they won't - righteous politics (the power of sounding good but not real) wouldn't allow them too lol. Do you ever give your money or your time to charity?
Maybe you should ask - have I ever not.
Then you are not following ‘charity begins at home ‘ because in reality , if we all did that the world would be a horrible and selfish place to be because it’s not already lol
Depends what ‘world’ you are living in . "the reall one mate I don’t bullshit like some who say they will turn down the vaccine to give to others atleast I’m honest mate I will always put my family first | |||
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"Still no one saying them or there family would turn down the vaccine to give to someone else Because it's not a valid comparison " And yet there are examples of terminally ill people prepared to pass up their vaccine, in the knowledge it would mean someone else with a life to live, would receive it before them | |||
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"Still no one saying them or there family would turn down the vaccine to give to someone else Of course they won't - righteous politics (the power of sounding good but not real) wouldn't allow them too lol. Do you ever give your money or your time to charity?
Maybe you should ask - have I ever not.
Then you are not following ‘charity begins at home ‘ because in reality , if we all did that the world would be a horrible and selfish place to be because it’s not already lol
Depends what ‘world’ you are living in . the reall one mate I don’t bullshit like some who say they will turn down the vaccine to give to others atleast I’m honest mate I will always put my family first "And that is fair enough, most would do the same , but if we all lived like that the world would be more fucked than it is now | |||
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"Quit being so nationalistic give vaccines to Charity. "Can't really be lectured from a country that doesn't have universal healthcare. | |||
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"As of yesterday, the total numbers of people to have received all doses as prescribed by the vaccination protocol are as follows: Germany 1.41M Italy 1.28M Spain. 1.00M Poland 641K France 634K UK 538K However, the numbers who have received one dose makes different reading: UK. 15.06M Germany. 2.74M France. 2.25M Italy. 1.71M Poland 1.47M Spain. 1.42M Which is basically what the article was saying." The WHO have said that delaying the second jab is not only more effective in that you can protect more people quicker but it makes the vaccines work even better. So the UK getting right again and again. All made possible by our fantastic Health professionals | |||
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"Still no one saying them or there family would turn down the vaccine to give to someone else Would you ? Would you give money to charity that could be spent on your kids? Would you give your time to help others that could be given to your family and friends? Would you have the vaccine if it prevented an elderly or vulnerable person from having it? I know I would , and my friend and family would do the same we’ve had the vaccine buddy if you’ve read the posts lol soon you would then amd your family would turn it down good for yous very righteous of you I only asked you one question got 4 back wonder why you got so upset must of been a harder question to answer than I thought lol" You know me foxy My dads 90 glad he’s had vaccine My kids are twenty’s . Both they and I would give it to someone more vulnerable . I suspect if anyone had the choice and were healthy and in the lower risk groups most people would. I don’t care if anyone believes me or not just for the record. So please keep your opinions to yourselves. | |||
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