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"Been a bit of a storm about him. He was invited to speak at oxford before certain groups intervened pointing out he Is on fact a massive racist and his application has been withdrawn. Whilst I have seen a few of his films I dont know his full history so in mot really sure what he has done. Someone on Twitter has also called for him to be investigated for child abuse as a boy was caned in his film kes. Strange days. " I thought the left didn't have people 'cancelled'? | |||
"Been a bit of a storm about him. He was invited to speak at oxford before certain groups intervened pointing out he Is on fact a massive racist and his application has been withdrawn. Whilst I have seen a few of his films I dont know his full history so in mot really sure what he has done. Someone on Twitter has also called for him to be investigated for child abuse as a boy was caned in his film kes. Strange days. " These attacks are coming from the same sources that attacked Corbyn. | |||
"Been a bit of a storm about him. He was invited to speak at oxford before certain groups intervened pointing out he Is on fact a massive racist and his application has been withdrawn. Whilst I have seen a few of his films I dont know his full history so in mot really sure what he has done. Someone on Twitter has also called for him to be investigated for child abuse as a boy was caned in his film kes. Strange days. I thought the left didn't have people 'cancelled'?" Where's the line between not platforming racists and cancelling people? | |||
"Been a bit of a storm about him. He was invited to speak at oxford before certain groups intervened pointing out he Is on fact a massive racist and his application has been withdrawn. Whilst I have seen a few of his films I dont know his full history so in mot really sure what he has done. Someone on Twitter has also called for him to be investigated for child abuse as a boy was caned in his film kes. Strange days. I thought the left didn't have people 'cancelled'? Where's the line between not platforming racists and cancelling people?" Thanks. So you will admit that the left side also have a racism problem? Being that he's a Corbyn supporter and all. | |||
"Been a bit of a storm about him. He was invited to speak at oxford before certain groups intervened pointing out he Is on fact a massive racist and his application has been withdrawn. Whilst I have seen a few of his films I dont know his full history so in mot really sure what he has done. Someone on Twitter has also called for him to be investigated for child abuse as a boy was caned in his film kes. Strange days. " fuck me I could have dozens of ex teachers investigated for caning me then lol | |||
"Been a bit of a storm about him. He was invited to speak at oxford before certain groups intervened pointing out he Is on fact a massive racist and his application has been withdrawn. Whilst I have seen a few of his films I dont know his full history so in mot really sure what he has done. Someone on Twitter has also called for him to be investigated for child abuse as a boy was caned in his film kes. Strange days. I thought the left didn't have people 'cancelled'? Where's the line between not platforming racists and cancelling people? Thanks. So you will admit that the left side also have a racism problem? Being that he's a Corbyn supporter and all." Huh? I'm not admitting anything. I'm interested in cancel culture and people who accuse others of cancel culture. Also. I'm not "left". | |||
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"Why’s he a racist? Any firm evidence" He said antisemitism was an understandable reaction to Israel's actions. Labour dropped him for antisemitism quotes. | |||
"Been a bit of a storm about him. He was invited to speak at oxford before certain groups intervened pointing out he Is on fact a massive racist and his application has been withdrawn. Whilst I have seen a few of his films I dont know his full history so in mot really sure what he has done. Someone on Twitter has also called for him to be investigated for child abuse as a boy was caned in his film kes. Strange days. I thought the left didn't have people 'cancelled'? Where's the line between not platforming racists and cancelling people? Thanks. So you will admit that the left side also have a racism problem? Being that he's a Corbyn supporter and all. Huh? I'm not admitting anything. I'm interested in cancel culture and people who accuse others of cancel culture. Also. I'm not "left". " Inwas expecting an answer to say he wasn't cancelled. I also, never said 'you' were left. | |||
"Why’s he a racist? Any firm evidence He said antisemitism was an understandable reaction to Israel's actions. Labour dropped him for antisemitism quotes." Ah ok an anti semite. Just been on a Google. | |||
"Been a bit of a storm about him. He was invited to speak at oxford before certain groups intervened pointing out he Is on fact a massive racist and his application has been withdrawn. Whilst I have seen a few of his films I dont know his full history so in mot really sure what he has done. Someone on Twitter has also called for him to be investigated for child abuse as a boy was caned in his film kes. Strange days. I thought the left didn't have people 'cancelled'? Where's the line between not platforming racists and cancelling people? Thanks. So you will admit that the left side also have a racism problem? Being that he's a Corbyn supporter and all." What has he done to be labelled a racist exactly? Because he likes corbyn? | |||
"Why’s he a racist? Any firm evidence He said antisemitism was an understandable reaction to Israel's actions. Labour dropped him for antisemitism quotes. Ah ok an anti semite. Just been on a Google. " should be investigated for child abuse because a kid was caned in his film in the 70s wtf comedy gold lol | |||
"Been a bit of a storm about him. He was invited to speak at oxford before certain groups intervened pointing out he Is on fact a massive racist and his application has been withdrawn. Whilst I have seen a few of his films I dont know his full history so in mot really sure what he has done. Someone on Twitter has also called for him to be investigated for child abuse as a boy was caned in his film kes. Strange days. I thought the left didn't have people 'cancelled'? Where's the line between not platforming racists and cancelling people? Thanks. So you will admit that the left side also have a racism problem? Being that he's a Corbyn supporter and all. Huh? I'm not admitting anything. I'm interested in cancel culture and people who accuse others of cancel culture. Also. I'm not "left". Inwas expecting an answer to say he wasn't cancelled. I also, never said 'you' were left." I'm confused. | |||
"Why’s he a racist? Any firm evidence He said antisemitism was an understandable reaction to Israel's actions. Labour dropped him for antisemitism quotes. Ah ok an anti semite. Just been on a Google. should be investigated for child abuse because a kid was caned in his film in the 70s wtf comedy gold lol" Not seen that bit yet. Think that may be a stretch somewhat. | |||
"Been a bit of a storm about him. He was invited to speak at oxford before certain groups intervened pointing out he Is on fact a massive racist and his application has been withdrawn. Whilst I have seen a few of his films I dont know his full history so in mot really sure what he has done. Someone on Twitter has also called for him to be investigated for child abuse as a boy was caned in his film kes. Strange days. I thought the left didn't have people 'cancelled'? Where's the line between not platforming racists and cancelling people? Thanks. So you will admit that the left side also have a racism problem? Being that he's a Corbyn supporter and all. What has he done to be labelled a racist exactly? Because he likes corbyn?" So you can read when right sided people are racist but not left sided? It's funny how you know all the bad shit about righties but claim to know nothing about lefties  | |||
"Been a bit of a storm about him. He was invited to speak at oxford before certain groups intervened pointing out he Is on fact a massive racist and his application has been withdrawn. Whilst I have seen a few of his films I dont know his full history so in mot really sure what he has done. Someone on Twitter has also called for him to be investigated for child abuse as a boy was caned in his film kes. Strange days. I thought the left didn't have people 'cancelled'? Where's the line between not platforming racists and cancelling people? Thanks. So you will admit that the left side also have a racism problem? Being that he's a Corbyn supporter and all. What has he done to be labelled a racist exactly? Because he likes corbyn? So you can read when right sided people are racist but not left sided? It's funny how you know all the bad shit about righties but claim to know nothing about lefties "Can you just point to where he said anti semitism was fine? Google is letting me down | |||
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"Why’s he a racist? Any firm evidence He said antisemitism was an understandable reaction to Israel's actions. Labour dropped him for antisemitism quotes. Ah ok an anti semite. Just been on a Google. should be investigated for child abuse because a kid was caned in his film in the 70s wtf comedy gold lol Not seen that bit yet. Think that may be a stretch somewhat. " Some crackpot from east enders apparently Tracey ann oberan | |||
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"Why’s he a racist? Any firm evidence He said antisemitism was an understandable reaction to Israel's actions. Labour dropped him for antisemitism quotes. Ah ok an anti semite. Just been on a Google. should be investigated for child abuse because a kid was caned in his film in the 70s wtf comedy gold lol Not seen that bit yet. Think that may be a stretch somewhat. Some crackpot from east enders apparently Tracey ann oberan" I don’t think any of them kids would of been arsed anyway proper ruff as fook lol most whet the even actors an absolute British classic lovvvve it | |||
"He is also a holocaust denier aswell apparently ',,the holocaust is as real as historical event as world war 2" Obvs." He made that statement 'to clarify'
When asked about whether the holocaust happened he replied 'history is there for us all to discuss' live on air.
There is no denying that | |||
"He is also a holocaust denier aswell apparently ',,the holocaust is as real as historical event as world war 2" Obvs. He made that statement 'to clarify'
When asked about whether the holocaust happened he replied 'history is there for us all to discuss' live on air.
There is no denying that "History Is there for all to discuss No argument there. He obviously meant the holocaust didnt happen I still cant believe he got away with saying anti semitism was acceptable. | |||
"He is also a holocaust denier aswell apparently ',,the holocaust is as real as historical event as world war 2" Obvs. He made that statement 'to clarify'
When asked about whether the holocaust happened he replied 'history is there for us all to discuss' live on air.
There is no denying that
History Is there for all to discuss
No argument there.
He obviously meant the holocaust didnt happen
I still cant believe he got away with saying anti semitism was acceptable. "If he meant the opposite why wouldn't he say it? He also denied there was antisemitism within the labour party and called it a 'witchunt'. | |||
"He is also a holocaust denier aswell apparently ',,the holocaust is as real as historical event as world war 2" Obvs. He made that statement 'to clarify'
When asked about whether the holocaust happened he replied 'history is there for us all to discuss' live on air.
There is no denying that
History Is there for all to discuss
No argument there.
He obviously meant the holocaust didnt happen
I still cant believe he got away with saying anti semitism was acceptable. "aw I hate him now iv read this I’ll never wach kes again now | |||
"He is also a holocaust denier aswell apparently ',,the holocaust is as real as historical event as world war 2" Obvs. He made that statement 'to clarify'
When asked about whether the holocaust happened he replied 'history is there for us all to discuss' live on air.
There is no denying that
History Is there for all to discuss
No argument there.
He obviously meant the holocaust didnt happen
I still cant believe he got away with saying anti semitism was acceptable.
If he meant the opposite why wouldn't he say it?
He also denied there was antisemitism within the labour party and called it a 'witchunt'."I'll ask again Can you help.me find the exact quote of him saying..anti semitism is acceptable? I cant seem to find it. Cheers. | |||
"He is also a holocaust denier aswell apparently ',,the holocaust is as real as historical event as world war 2" Obvs. He made that statement 'to clarify'
When asked about whether the holocaust happened he replied 'history is there for us all to discuss' live on air.
There is no denying that
History Is there for all to discuss
No argument there.
He obviously meant the holocaust didnt happen
I still cant believe he got away with saying anti semitism was acceptable.
If he meant the opposite why wouldn't he say it?
He also denied there was antisemitism within the labour party and called it a 'witchunt'.
I'll ask again
Can you help.me find the exact quote of him saying..anti semitism is acceptable?
I cant seem to find it.
Cheers."Ask anyone who has been a victim of racism. Someone doesn't actually have to say an exact quote to show their intention. The guy thinks the holocaust is open for discussion and denies there's racism within the labour party. Even if he hasn't actually said an exact quote himself, he clearly supports it. That makes him racist at worst, and just as bad at least. | |||
"He is also a holocaust denier aswell apparently ',,the holocaust is as real as historical event as world war 2" Obvs. He made that statement 'to clarify'
When asked about whether the holocaust happened he replied 'history is there for us all to discuss' live on air.
There is no denying that
History Is there for all to discuss
No argument there.
He obviously meant the holocaust didnt happen
I still cant believe he got away with saying anti semitism was acceptable.
If he meant the opposite why wouldn't he say it?
He also denied there was antisemitism within the labour party and called it a 'witchunt'.
I'll ask again
Can you help.me find the exact quote of him saying..anti semitism is acceptable?
I cant seem to find it.
Cheers.
Ask anyone who has been a victim of racism. Someone doesn't actually have to say an exact quote to show their intention.
The guy thinks the holocaust is open for discussion and denies there's racism within the labour party.
Even if he hasn't actually said an exact quote himself, he clearly supports it. That makes him racist at worst, and just as bad at least."He said the holocaust happened Its there In black and white. If he is a holocaust denier he isnt very consistent. | |||
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"He is also a holocaust denier aswell apparently ',,the holocaust is as real as historical event as world war 2" Obvs. He made that statement 'to clarify'
When asked about whether the holocaust happened he replied 'history is there for us all to discuss' live on air.
There is no denying that
History Is there for all to discuss
No argument there.
He obviously meant the holocaust didnt happen
I still cant believe he got away with saying anti semitism was acceptable.
If he meant the opposite why wouldn't he say it?
He also denied there was antisemitism within the labour party and called it a 'witchunt'.
I'll ask again
Can you help.me find the exact quote of him saying..anti semitism is acceptable?
I cant seem to find it.
Cheers.
Ask anyone who has been a victim of racism. Someone doesn't actually have to say an exact quote to show their intention.
The guy thinks the holocaust is open for discussion and denies there's racism within the labour party.
Even if he hasn't actually said an exact quote himself, he clearly supports it. That makes him racist at worst, and just as bad at least.
He said the holocaust happened
Its there In black and white.
If he is a holocaust denier he isnt very consistent."As I've stated he said that 'to clarify' after the backlash. Come on Lionel, we know how you support Corbyn and anyone linked to him but even you can't deny this one | |||
"He is also a holocaust denier aswell apparently ',,the holocaust is as real as historical event as world war 2" Obvs. He made that statement 'to clarify'
When asked about whether the holocaust happened he replied 'history is there for us all to discuss' live on air.
There is no denying that
History Is there for all to discuss
No argument there.
He obviously meant the holocaust didnt happen
I still cant believe he got away with saying anti semitism was acceptable.
If he meant the opposite why wouldn't he say it?
He also denied there was antisemitism within the labour party and called it a 'witchunt'.
I'll ask again
Can you help.me find the exact quote of him saying..anti semitism is acceptable?
I cant seem to find it.
Cheers.
Ask anyone who has been a victim of racism. Someone doesn't actually have to say an exact quote to show their intention.
The guy thinks the holocaust is open for discussion and denies there's racism within the labour party.
Even if he hasn't actually said an exact quote himself, he clearly supports it. That makes him racist at worst, and just as bad at least.
He said the holocaust happened
Its there In black and white.
If he is a holocaust denier he isnt very consistent.
As I've stated he said that 'to clarify' after the backlash.
Come on Lionel, we know how you support Corbyn and anyone linked to him but even you can't deny this one "I don't have to. Like I said in the OP I'm not an expert on him apart from watching a few films. According to you he is a holocaust denier because he made some vague quote about looking at history. And then categorically stated the holocaust happened. | |||
"He is also a holocaust denier aswell apparently ',,the holocaust is as real as historical event as world war 2" Obvs. He made that statement 'to clarify'
When asked about whether the holocaust happened he replied 'history is there for us all to discuss' live on air.
There is no denying that
History Is there for all to discuss
No argument there.
He obviously meant the holocaust didnt happen
I still cant believe he got away with saying anti semitism was acceptable.
If he meant the opposite why wouldn't he say it?
He also denied there was antisemitism within the labour party and called it a 'witchunt'.
I'll ask again
Can you help.me find the exact quote of him saying..anti semitism is acceptable?
I cant seem to find it.
Cheers.
Ask anyone who has been a victim of racism. Someone doesn't actually have to say an exact quote to show their intention.
The guy thinks the holocaust is open for discussion and denies there's racism within the labour party.
Even if he hasn't actually said an exact quote himself, he clearly supports it. That makes him racist at worst, and just as bad at least.
He said the holocaust happened
Its there In black and white.
If he is a holocaust denier he isnt very consistent.
As I've stated he said that 'to clarify' after the backlash.
Come on Lionel, we know how you support Corbyn and anyone linked to him but even you can't deny this one
I don't have to.
Like I said in the OP I'm not an expert on him apart from watching a few films.
According to you he is a holocaust denier because he made some vague quote about looking at history.
And then categorically stated the holocaust happened."standard | |||
"He is also a holocaust denier aswell apparently ',,the holocaust is as real as historical event as world war 2" Obvs. He made that statement 'to clarify'
When asked about whether the holocaust happened he replied 'history is there for us all to discuss' live on air.
There is no denying that
History Is there for all to discuss
No argument there.
He obviously meant the holocaust didnt happen
I still cant believe he got away with saying anti semitism was acceptable.
If he meant the opposite why wouldn't he say it?
He also denied there was antisemitism within the labour party and called it a 'witchunt'.
I'll ask again
Can you help.me find the exact quote of him saying..anti semitism is acceptable?
I cant seem to find it.
Cheers.
Ask anyone who has been a victim of racism. Someone doesn't actually have to say an exact quote to show their intention.
The guy thinks the holocaust is open for discussion and denies there's racism within the labour party.
Even if he hasn't actually said an exact quote himself, he clearly supports it. That makes him racist at worst, and just as bad at least.
He said the holocaust happened
Its there In black and white.
If he is a holocaust denier he isnt very consistent.
As I've stated he said that 'to clarify' after the backlash.
Come on Lionel, we know how you support Corbyn and anyone linked to him but even you can't deny this one
I don't have to.
Like I said in the OP I'm not an expert on him apart from watching a few films.
According to you he is a holocaust denier because he made some vague quote about looking at history.
And then categorically stated the holocaust happened.standard "Bog standard I think is the saying  | |||
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"I don’t really understand this claim of anti-semitism . As far as I can understand, saying you don’t support Israel because of its treatment of Palestine is a statement that brands you as being against a religion? Sometimes it feels that people are called out wrongly for being anti-Semitic or racist but the stigma and backlash destroys their lives or at least changes them for the worse. And the groups howling for blood are too powerful for an individual to resist or fight." I'm struggling to think of anyone who has publicly criticized isarel and not been labelled a racist. | |||
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"He is also a holocaust denier aswell apparently ',,the holocaust is as real as historical event as world war 2" Obvs. He made that statement 'to clarify'
When asked about whether the holocaust happened he replied 'history is there for us all to discuss' live on air.
There is no denying that
History Is there for all to discuss
No argument there.
He obviously meant the holocaust didnt happen
I still cant believe he got away with saying anti semitism was acceptable.
If he meant the opposite why wouldn't he say it?
He also denied there was antisemitism within the labour party and called it a 'witchunt'.
I'll ask again
Can you help.me find the exact quote of him saying..anti semitism is acceptable?
I cant seem to find it.
Cheers.
Ask anyone who has been a victim of racism. Someone doesn't actually have to say an exact quote to show their intention.
The guy thinks the holocaust is open for discussion and denies there's racism within the labour party.
Even if he hasn't actually said an exact quote himself, he clearly supports it. That makes him racist at worst, and just as bad at least.
He said the holocaust happened
Its there In black and white.
If he is a holocaust denier he isnt very consistent.
As I've stated he said that 'to clarify' after the backlash.
Come on Lionel, we know how you support Corbyn and anyone linked to him but even you can't deny this one " | |||
"He is also a holocaust denier aswell apparently ',,the holocaust is as real as historical event as world war 2" Obvs. He made that statement 'to clarify'
When asked about whether the holocaust happened he replied 'history is there for us all to discuss' live on air.
There is no denying that
History Is there for all to discuss
No argument there.
He obviously meant the holocaust didnt happen
I still cant believe he got away with saying anti semitism was acceptable.
If he meant the opposite why wouldn't he say it?
He also denied there was antisemitism within the labour party and called it a 'witchunt'.
I'll ask again
Can you help.me find the exact quote of him saying..anti semitism is acceptable?
I cant seem to find it.
Cheers.
Ask anyone who has been a victim of racism. Someone doesn't actually have to say an exact quote to show their intention.
The guy thinks the holocaust is open for discussion and denies there's racism within the labour party.
Even if he hasn't actually said an exact quote himself, he clearly supports it. That makes him racist at worst, and just as bad at least.
He said the holocaust happened
Its there In black and white.
If he is a holocaust denier he isnt very consistent.
As I've stated he said that 'to clarify' after the backlash.
Come on Lionel, we know how you support Corbyn and anyone linked to him but even you can't deny this one "#notocsesed | |||
"He is also a holocaust denier aswell apparently ',,the holocaust is as real as historical event as world war 2" Obvs. He made that statement 'to clarify'
When asked about whether the holocaust happened he replied 'history is there for us all to discuss' live on air.
There is no denying that
History Is there for all to discuss
No argument there.
He obviously meant the holocaust didnt happen
I still cant believe he got away with saying anti semitism was acceptable.
If he meant the opposite why wouldn't he say it?
He also denied there was antisemitism within the labour party and called it a 'witchunt'.
I'll ask again
Can you help.me find the exact quote of him saying..anti semitism is acceptable?
I cant seem to find it.
Cheers.
Ask anyone who has been a victim of racism. Someone doesn't actually have to say an exact quote to show their intention.
The guy thinks the holocaust is open for discussion and denies there's racism within the labour party.
Even if he hasn't actually said an exact quote himself, he clearly supports it. That makes him racist at worst, and just as bad at least.
He said the holocaust happened
Its there In black and white.
If he is a holocaust denier he isnt very consistent.
As I've stated he said that 'to clarify' after the backlash.
Come on Lionel, we know how you support Corbyn and anyone linked to him but even you can't deny this one
#notocsesed"Eh? | |||
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"I don’t really understand this claim of anti-semitism . As far as I can understand, saying you don’t support Israel because of its treatment of Palestine is a statement that brands you as being against a religion? Sometimes it feels that people are called out wrongly for being anti-Semitic or racist but the stigma and backlash destroys their lives or at least changes them for the worse. And the groups howling for blood are too powerful for an individual to resist or fight." That's all there is to say about it. | |||
"I don’t really understand this claim of anti-semitism . As far as I can understand, saying you don’t support Israel because of its treatment of Palestine is a statement that brands you as being against a religion? Sometimes it feels that people are called out wrongly for being anti-Semitic or racist but the stigma and backlash destroys their lives or at least changes them for the worse. And the groups howling for blood are too powerful for an individual to resist or fight. That's all there is to say about it." So long as you're left wing yep | |||
"Of anti-Semitic. Was that not why there was the issue with the Labour Party?" The big issue was the defeniton of the word. The irha wanted to label critiscm of israel as anti semitic.2 of the examples used mentioned isreal without referencing jewish people. When labour challenged this, they were obviously labelled as massive racists. | |||
"Of anti-Semitic. Was that not why there was the issue with the Labour Party? The big issue was the defeniton of the word. The irha wanted to label critiscm of israel as anti semitic.2 of the examples used mentioned isreal without referencing jewish people. When labour challenged this, they were obviously labelled as massive racists. " I don't think Luciana Berger or Margaret Hodge took their abuse as criticism of Israel. Seemed a bit more personal than that. | |||
"Of anti-Semitic. Was that not why there was the issue with the Labour Party? The big issue was the defeniton of the word. The irha wanted to label critiscm of israel as anti semitic.2 of the examples used mentioned isreal without referencing jewish people. When labour challenged this, they were obviously labelled as massive racists. I don't think Luciana Berger or Margaret Hodge took their abuse as criticism of Israel. Seemed a bit more personal than that. " Margaret hodge alleged 200 cases of anti semitism. Upon investigation it was revealed 90% were not from labour party members. | |||
"Of anti-Semitic. Was that not why there was the issue with the Labour Party? The big issue was the defeniton of the word. The irha wanted to label critiscm of israel as anti semitic.2 of the examples used mentioned isreal without referencing jewish people. When labour challenged this, they were obviously labelled as massive racists. I don't think Luciana Berger or Margaret Hodge took their abuse as criticism of Israel. Seemed a bit more personal than that. Margaret hodge alleged 200 cases of anti semitism. Upon investigation it was revealed 90% were not from labour party members." The EHRC report says 220 complaints were identified of which it analysed in detail 70 complaints. It refers to "tip of the iceberg" on page 8. | |||
"Of anti-Semitic. Was that not why there was the issue with the Labour Party? The big issue was the defeniton of the word. The irha wanted to label critiscm of israel as anti semitic.2 of the examples used mentioned isreal without referencing jewish people. When labour challenged this, they were obviously labelled as massive racists. I don't think Luciana Berger or Margaret Hodge took their abuse as criticism of Israel. Seemed a bit more personal than that. Margaret hodge alleged 200 cases of anti semitism. Upon investigation it was revealed 90% were not from labour party members. The EHRC report says 220 complaints were identified of which it analysed in detail 70 complaints. It refers to "tip of the iceberg" on page 8." Rebecca long bailey lost her job because she retweeted an article which correctly stated that some Israelie police were coached in tactics by American law enforcement. When someone who's family went out on the streets to fight facism is compared to Hitler any sense of rational discourse has gone out of the window. | |||
"Of anti-Semitic. Was that not why there was the issue with the Labour Party? The big issue was the defeniton of the word. The irha wanted to label critiscm of israel as anti semitic.2 of the examples used mentioned isreal without referencing jewish people. When labour challenged this, they were obviously labelled as massive racists. I don't think Luciana Berger or Margaret Hodge took their abuse as criticism of Israel. Seemed a bit more personal than that. Margaret hodge alleged 200 cases of anti semitism. Upon investigation it was revealed 90% were not from labour party members. The EHRC report says 220 complaints were identified of which it analysed in detail 70 complaints. It refers to "tip of the iceberg" on page 8." And it found 2 people guilty. | |||
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"Of anti-Semitic. Was that not why there was the issue with the Labour Party? The big issue was the defeniton of the word. The irha wanted to label critiscm of israel as anti semitic.2 of the examples used mentioned isreal without referencing jewish people. When labour challenged this, they were obviously labelled as massive racists. I don't think Luciana Berger or Margaret Hodge took their abuse as criticism of Israel. Seemed a bit more personal than that. Margaret hodge alleged 200 cases of anti semitism. Upon investigation it was revealed 90% were not from labour party members. The EHRC report says 220 complaints were identified of which it analysed in detail 70 complaints. It refers to "tip of the iceberg" on page 8. And it found 2 people guilty." It found 2 officers of the Labour Party guilty, identified 18 more borderline cases, and refers to the tip of the iceberg. None of this was over political criticism of Israel. I don't have any specific interest in internal labour party machinations, but I've said before the total failure of the leadership to deal with straightforward discrimination damaged their vote and hence damaged democracy. | |||
"Of anti-Semitic. Was that not why there was the issue with the Labour Party? The big issue was the defeniton of the word. The irha wanted to label critiscm of israel as anti semitic.2 of the examples used mentioned isreal without referencing jewish people. When labour challenged this, they were obviously labelled as massive racists. I don't think Luciana Berger or Margaret Hodge took their abuse as criticism of Israel. Seemed a bit more personal than that. Margaret hodge alleged 200 cases of anti semitism. Upon investigation it was revealed 90% were not from labour party members. The EHRC report says 220 complaints were identified of which it analysed in detail 70 complaints. It refers to "tip of the iceberg" on page 8. And it found 2 people guilty. It found 2 officers of the Labour Party guilty, identified 18 more borderline cases, and refers to the tip of the iceberg. None of this was over political criticism of Israel. I don't have any specific interest in internal labour party machinations, but I've said before the total failure of the leadership to deal with straightforward discrimination damaged their vote and hence damaged democracy. " What do you think borderline is? The 18 cases were probslly related to critism of Israel as per the IRha definition. | |||
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"Of anti-Semitic. Was that not why there was the issue with the Labour Party? The big issue was the defeniton of the word. The irha wanted to label critiscm of israel as anti semitic.2 of the examples used mentioned isreal without referencing jewish people. When labour challenged this, they were obviously labelled as massive racists. I don't think Luciana Berger or Margaret Hodge took their abuse as criticism of Israel. Seemed a bit more personal than that. Margaret hodge alleged 200 cases of anti semitism. Upon investigation it was revealed 90% were not from labour party members. The EHRC report says 220 complaints were identified of which it analysed in detail 70 complaints. It refers to "tip of the iceberg" on page 8. And it found 2 people guilty. It found 2 officers of the Labour Party guilty, identified 18 more borderline cases, and refers to the tip of the iceberg. None of this was over political criticism of Israel. I don't have any specific interest in internal labour party machinations, but I've said before the total failure of the leadership to deal with straightforward discrimination damaged their vote and hence damaged democracy. What do you think borderline is? The 18 cases were probslly related to critism of Israel as per the IRha definition." Examples given (page 86) include holocaust denial, antisemitic conspiracies, and rosthschild conspiracies. | |||
"Of anti-Semitic. Was that not why there was the issue with the Labour Party? The big issue was the defeniton of the word. The irha wanted to label critiscm of israel as anti semitic.2 of the examples used mentioned isreal without referencing jewish people. When labour challenged this, they were obviously labelled as massive racists. I don't think Luciana Berger or Margaret Hodge took their abuse as criticism of Israel. Seemed a bit more personal than that. Margaret hodge alleged 200 cases of anti semitism. Upon investigation it was revealed 90% were not from labour party members. The EHRC report says 220 complaints were identified of which it analysed in detail 70 complaints. It refers to "tip of the iceberg" on page 8. And it found 2 people guilty. It found 2 officers of the Labour Party guilty, identified 18 more borderline cases, and refers to the tip of the iceberg. None of this was over political criticism of Israel. I don't have any specific interest in internal labour party machinations, but I've said before the total failure of the leadership to deal with straightforward discrimination damaged their vote and hence damaged democracy. What do you think borderline is? The 18 cases were probslly related to critism of Israel as per the IRha definition. Examples given (page 86) include holocaust denial, antisemitic conspiracies, and rosthschild conspiracies. " So lets get this straight. Rlb lost her job because of an article which was mildy critical isreal and an depth report found holocaust denial was "borderline? | |||
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"Of anti-Semitic. Was that not why there was the issue with the Labour Party? The big issue was the defeniton of the word. The irha wanted to label critiscm of israel as anti semitic.2 of the examples used mentioned isreal without referencing jewish people. When labour challenged this, they were obviously labelled as massive racists. I don't think Luciana Berger or Margaret Hodge took their abuse as criticism of Israel. Seemed a bit more personal than that. Margaret hodge alleged 200 cases of anti semitism. Upon investigation it was revealed 90% were not from labour party members. The EHRC report says 220 complaints were identified of which it analysed in detail 70 complaints. It refers to "tip of the iceberg" on page 8. And it found 2 people guilty. It found 2 officers of the Labour Party guilty, identified 18 more borderline cases, and refers to the tip of the iceberg. None of this was over political criticism of Israel. I don't have any specific interest in internal labour party machinations, but I've said before the total failure of the leadership to deal with straightforward discrimination damaged their vote and hence damaged democracy. What do you think borderline is? The 18 cases were probslly related to critism of Israel as per the IRha definition. Examples given (page 86) include holocaust denial, antisemitic conspiracies, and rosthschild conspiracies. So lets get this straight. Rlb lost her job because of an article which was mildy critical isreal and an depth report found holocaust denial was "borderline?" Rlb lost her job because she stupidly forwarded a false claim about Israel teaching kneeling on neck tactics to American police. Lack of judgement to say the least. That was all after the report was published. Again I've no interest in internal labour arguments but it's about having a credible disciplined opposition that doesn't come across as having obsessions with faraway countries that have little relevance to UK voters. | |||
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"Of anti-Semitic. Was that not why there was the issue with the Labour Party? The big issue was the defeniton of the word. The irha wanted to label critiscm of israel as anti semitic.2 of the examples used mentioned isreal without referencing jewish people. When labour challenged this, they were obviously labelled as massive racists. I don't think Luciana Berger or Margaret Hodge took their abuse as criticism of Israel. Seemed a bit more personal than that. Margaret hodge alleged 200 cases of anti semitism. Upon investigation it was revealed 90% were not from labour party members. The EHRC report says 220 complaints were identified of which it analysed in detail 70 complaints. It refers to "tip of the iceberg" on page 8. And it found 2 people guilty. It found 2 officers of the Labour Party guilty, identified 18 more borderline cases, and refers to the tip of the iceberg. None of this was over political criticism of Israel. I don't have any specific interest in internal labour party machinations, but I've said before the total failure of the leadership to deal with straightforward discrimination damaged their vote and hence damaged democracy. What do you think borderline is? The 18 cases were probslly related to critism of Israel as per the IRha definition. Examples given (page 86) include holocaust denial, antisemitic conspiracies, and rosthschild conspiracies. So lets get this straight. Rlb lost her job because of an article which was mildy critical isreal and an depth report found holocaust denial was "borderline? Rlb lost her job because she stupidly forwarded a false claim about Israel teaching kneeling on neck tactics to American police. Lack of judgement to say the least. That was all after the report was published. Again I've no interest in internal labour arguments but it's about having a credible disciplined opposition that doesn't come across as having obsessions with faraway countries that have little relevance to UK voters. " She lost her job because it was ridiculously linked to anti semitism https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-53183085 | |||
"Of anti-Semitic. Was that not why there was the issue with the Labour Party? The big issue was the defeniton of the word. The irha wanted to label critiscm of israel as anti semitic.2 of the examples used mentioned isreal without referencing jewish people. When labour challenged this, they were obviously labelled as massive racists. I don't think Luciana Berger or Margaret Hodge took their abuse as criticism of Israel. Seemed a bit more personal than that. Margaret hodge alleged 200 cases of anti semitism. Upon investigation it was revealed 90% were not from labour party members. The EHRC report says 220 complaints were identified of which it analysed in detail 70 complaints. It refers to "tip of the iceberg" on page 8. And it found 2 people guilty. It found 2 officers of the Labour Party guilty, identified 18 more borderline cases, and refers to the tip of the iceberg. None of this was over political criticism of Israel. I don't have any specific interest in internal labour party machinations, but I've said before the total failure of the leadership to deal with straightforward discrimination damaged their vote and hence damaged democracy. What do you think borderline is? The 18 cases were probslly related to critism of Israel as per the IRha definition. Examples given (page 86) include holocaust denial, antisemitic conspiracies, and rosthschild conspiracies. So lets get this straight. Rlb lost her job because of an article which was mildy critical isreal and an depth report found holocaust denial was "borderline? Rlb lost her job because she stupidly forwarded a false claim about Israel teaching kneeling on neck tactics to American police. Lack of judgement to say the least. That was all after the report was published. Again I've no interest in internal labour arguments but it's about having a credible disciplined opposition that doesn't come across as having obsessions with faraway countries that have little relevance to UK voters. She lost her job because it was ridiculously linked to anti semitism https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-53183085" OK you think it was SKS revenge on her. Fine. You know my view, firstly it was stupid to retweet something without checking the contents. Secondly from a purely political point of view, how ridiculous to tweet anything at all about Israel which had nothing to do with her shadow position. Voters have no interest or respect for politicians personal hobby horses. | |||
"Of anti-Semitic. Was that not why there was the issue with the Labour Party? The big issue was the defeniton of the word. The irha wanted to label critiscm of israel as anti semitic.2 of the examples used mentioned isreal without referencing jewish people. When labour challenged this, they were obviously labelled as massive racists. I don't think Luciana Berger or Margaret Hodge took their abuse as criticism of Israel. Seemed a bit more personal than that. Margaret hodge alleged 200 cases of anti semitism. Upon investigation it was revealed 90% were not from labour party members. The EHRC report says 220 complaints were identified of which it analysed in detail 70 complaints. It refers to "tip of the iceberg" on page 8. And it found 2 people guilty. It found 2 officers of the Labour Party guilty, identified 18 more borderline cases, and refers to the tip of the iceberg. None of this was over political criticism of Israel. I don't have any specific interest in internal labour party machinations, but I've said before the total failure of the leadership to deal with straightforward discrimination damaged their vote and hence damaged democracy. What do you think borderline is? The 18 cases were probslly related to critism of Israel as per the IRha definition. Examples given (page 86) include holocaust denial, antisemitic conspiracies, and rosthschild conspiracies. So lets get this straight. Rlb lost her job because of an article which was mildy critical isreal and an depth report found holocaust denial was "borderline? Rlb lost her job because she stupidly forwarded a false claim about Israel teaching kneeling on neck tactics to American police. Lack of judgement to say the least. That was all after the report was published. Again I've no interest in internal labour arguments but it's about having a credible disciplined opposition that doesn't come across as having obsessions with faraway countries that have little relevance to UK voters. She lost her job because it was ridiculously linked to anti semitism https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-53183085 OK you think it was SKS revenge on her. Fine. You know my view, firstly it was stupid to retweet something without checking the contents. Secondly from a purely political point of view, how ridiculous to tweet anything at all about Israel which had nothing to do with her shadow position. Voters have no interest or respect for politicians personal hobby horses. " So people are not allowed to even refer to isreal now. Sort of proving my point. | |||
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"Of anti-Semitic. Was that not why there was the issue with the Labour Party? The big issue was the defeniton of the word. The irha wanted to label critiscm of israel as anti semitic.2 of the examples used mentioned isreal without referencing jewish people. When labour challenged this, they were obviously labelled as massive racists. I don't think Luciana Berger or Margaret Hodge took their abuse as criticism of Israel. Seemed a bit more personal than that. Margaret hodge alleged 200 cases of anti semitism. Upon investigation it was revealed 90% were not from labour party members. The EHRC report says 220 complaints were identified of which it analysed in detail 70 complaints. It refers to "tip of the iceberg" on page 8. And it found 2 people guilty. It found 2 officers of the Labour Party guilty, identified 18 more borderline cases, and refers to the tip of the iceberg. None of this was over political criticism of Israel. I don't have any specific interest in internal labour party machinations, but I've said before the total failure of the leadership to deal with straightforward discrimination damaged their vote and hence damaged democracy. What do you think borderline is? The 18 cases were probslly related to critism of Israel as per the IRha definition. Examples given (page 86) include holocaust denial, antisemitic conspiracies, and rosthschild conspiracies. So lets get this straight. Rlb lost her job because of an article which was mildy critical isreal and an depth report found holocaust denial was "borderline? Rlb lost her job because she stupidly forwarded a false claim about Israel teaching kneeling on neck tactics to American police. Lack of judgement to say the least. That was all after the report was published. Again I've no interest in internal labour arguments but it's about having a credible disciplined opposition that doesn't come across as having obsessions with faraway countries that have little relevance to UK voters. She lost her job because it was ridiculously linked to anti semitism https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-53183085 OK you think it was SKS revenge on her. Fine. You know my view, firstly it was stupid to retweet something without checking the contents. Secondly from a purely political point of view, how ridiculous to tweet anything at all about Israel which had nothing to do with her shadow position. Voters have no interest or respect for politicians personal hobby horses. So people are not allowed to even refer to isreal now. Sort of proving my point." It's a political dead end however strongly you feel about it. There are no votes in it and it can only do you political damage, as Labour have prooved. | |||
"I don’t really understand this claim of anti-semitism . As far as I can understand, saying you don’t support Israel because of its treatment of Palestine is a statement that brands you as being against a religion? Sometimes it feels that people are called out wrongly for being anti-Semitic or racist but the stigma and backlash destroys their lives or at least changes them for the worse. And the groups howling for blood are too powerful for an individual to resist or fight. That's all there is to say about it. So long as you're left wing yep" It’s not about right and left for goodness sake. It’s about much more than that! | |||
"Of anti-Semitic. Was that not why there was the issue with the Labour Party? The big issue was the defeniton of the word. The irha wanted to label critiscm of israel as anti semitic.2 of the examples used mentioned isreal without referencing jewish people. When labour challenged this, they were obviously labelled as massive racists. " the more you defend labour on this Lionel the worse you look mate | |||
"I don’t really understand this claim of anti-semitism . As far as I can understand, saying you don’t support Israel because of its treatment of Palestine is a statement that brands you as being against a religion? Sometimes it feels that people are called out wrongly for being anti-Semitic or racist but the stigma and backlash destroys their lives or at least changes them for the worse. And the groups howling for blood are too powerful for an individual to resist or fight. That's all there is to say about it. So long as you're left wing yep It’s not about right and left for goodness sake. It’s about much more than that!" I was saying if you're left wing you've got a chance to apologise and come back. No chance if you're right wing. I don't consider myself either left or right BTW. | |||
"I don’t really understand this claim of anti-semitism . As far as I can understand, saying you don’t support Israel because of its treatment of Palestine is a statement that brands you as being against a religion? Sometimes it feels that people are called out wrongly for being anti-Semitic or racist but the stigma and backlash destroys their lives or at least changes them for the worse. And the groups howling for blood are too powerful for an individual to resist or fight. That's all there is to say about it. So long as you're left wing yep It’s not about right and left for goodness sake. It’s about much more than that! I was saying if you're left wing you've got a chance to apologise and come back. No chance if you're right wing. I don't consider myself either left or right BTW. " Yep those racist comments boris certainly crippled his career. | |||
"I don’t really understand this claim of anti-semitism . As far as I can understand, saying you don’t support Israel because of its treatment of Palestine is a statement that brands you as being against a religion? Sometimes it feels that people are called out wrongly for being anti-Semitic or racist but the stigma and backlash destroys their lives or at least changes them for the worse. And the groups howling for blood are too powerful for an individual to resist or fight. That's all there is to say about it. So long as you're left wing yep It’s not about right and left for goodness sake. It’s about much more than that! I was saying if you're left wing you've got a chance to apologise and come back. No chance if you're right wing. I don't consider myself either left or right BTW. Yep those racist comments boris certainly crippled his career." Boris is not remotely right wing. He probably doesn't even put himself on the spectrum, but he certainly wouldn't say he was right wing. | |||
"I don’t really understand this claim of anti-semitism . As far as I can understand, saying you don’t support Israel because of its treatment of Palestine is a statement that brands you as being against a religion? Sometimes it feels that people are called out wrongly for being anti-Semitic or racist but the stigma and backlash destroys their lives or at least changes them for the worse. And the groups howling for blood are too powerful for an individual to resist or fight. That's all there is to say about it. So long as you're left wing yep It’s not about right and left for goodness sake. It’s about much more than that! I was saying if you're left wing you've got a chance to apologise and come back. No chance if you're right wing. I don't consider myself either left or right BTW. Yep those racist comments boris certainly crippled his career. Boris is not remotely right wing. He probably doesn't even put himself on the spectrum, but he certainly wouldn't say he was right wing. " 
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"I don’t really understand this claim of anti-semitism . As far as I can understand, saying you don’t support Israel because of its treatment of Palestine is a statement that brands you as being against a religion? Sometimes it feels that people are called out wrongly for being anti-Semitic or racist but the stigma and backlash destroys their lives or at least changes them for the worse. And the groups howling for blood are too powerful for an individual to resist or fight. That's all there is to say about it. So long as you're left wing yep It’s not about right and left for goodness sake. It’s about much more than that! I was saying if you're left wing you've got a chance to apologise and come back. No chance if you're right wing. I don't consider myself either left or right BTW. Yep those racist comments boris certainly crippled his career. Boris is not remotely right wing. He probably doesn't even put himself on the spectrum, but he certainly wouldn't say he was right wing.
"Chris is on form today. Some more class A comedy. | |||
"I don’t really understand this claim of anti-semitism . As far as I can understand, saying you don’t support Israel because of its treatment of Palestine is a statement that brands you as being against a religion? Sometimes it feels that people are called out wrongly for being anti-Semitic or racist but the stigma and backlash destroys their lives or at least changes them for the worse. And the groups howling for blood are too powerful for an individual to resist or fight. That's all there is to say about it. So long as you're left wing yep It’s not about right and left for goodness sake. It’s about much more than that! I was saying if you're left wing you've got a chance to apologise and come back. No chance if you're right wing. I don't consider myself either left or right BTW. Yep those racist comments boris certainly crippled his career. Boris is not remotely right wing. He probably doesn't even put himself on the spectrum, but he certainly wouldn't say he was right wing.
Chris is on form today. Some more class A comedy."Superb | |||
"I don’t really understand this claim of anti-semitism . As far as I can understand, saying you don’t support Israel because of its treatment of Palestine is a statement that brands you as being against a religion? Sometimes it feels that people are called out wrongly for being anti-Semitic or racist but the stigma and backlash destroys their lives or at least changes them for the worse. And the groups howling for blood are too powerful for an individual to resist or fight. That's all there is to say about it. So long as you're left wing yep It’s not about right and left for goodness sake. It’s about much more than that! I was saying if you're left wing you've got a chance to apologise and come back. No chance if you're right wing. I don't consider myself either left or right BTW. Yep those racist comments boris certainly crippled his career. Boris is not remotely right wing. He probably doesn't even put himself on the spectrum, but he certainly wouldn't say he was right wing.
Chris is on form today. Some more class A comedy.
Superb "Oh do come along even his biggest critics call him a shape shifter who doesn't believe in anything. Surely you've got a better example of a forgiven right winger? | |||
"I don’t really understand this claim of anti-semitism . As far as I can understand, saying you don’t support Israel because of its treatment of Palestine is a statement that brands you as being against a religion? Sometimes it feels that people are called out wrongly for being anti-Semitic or racist but the stigma and backlash destroys their lives or at least changes them for the worse. And the groups howling for blood are too powerful for an individual to resist or fight. That's all there is to say about it. So long as you're left wing yep It’s not about right and left for goodness sake. It’s about much more than that! I was saying if you're left wing you've got a chance to apologise and come back. No chance if you're right wing. I don't consider myself either left or right BTW. Yep those racist comments boris certainly crippled his career. Boris is not remotely right wing. He probably doesn't even put himself on the spectrum, but he certainly wouldn't say he was right wing.
Chris is on form today. Some more class A comedy.
Superb
Oh do come along even his biggest critics call him a shape shifter who doesn't believe in anything. Surely you've got a better example of a forgiven right winger? "He sure does like fattening his and his friends wallets. | |||
"I don’t really understand this claim of anti-semitism . As far as I can understand, saying you don’t support Israel because of its treatment of Palestine is a statement that brands you as being against a religion? Sometimes it feels that people are called out wrongly for being anti-Semitic or racist but the stigma and backlash destroys their lives or at least changes them for the worse. And the groups howling for blood are too powerful for an individual to resist or fight. That's all there is to say about it. So long as you're left wing yep It’s not about right and left for goodness sake. It’s about much more than that! I was saying if you're left wing you've got a chance to apologise and come back. No chance if you're right wing. I don't consider myself either left or right BTW. Yep those racist comments boris certainly crippled his career. Boris is not remotely right wing. He probably doesn't even put himself on the spectrum, but he certainly wouldn't say he was right wing.
Chris is on form today. Some more class A comedy.
Superb
Oh do come along even his biggest critics call him a shape shifter who doesn't believe in anything. Surely you've got a better example of a forgiven right winger?
He sure does like fattening his and his friends wallets. "is that right wing ? | |||
"I don’t really understand this claim of anti-semitism . As far as I can understand, saying you don’t support Israel because of its treatment of Palestine is a statement that brands you as being against a religion? Sometimes it feels that people are called out wrongly for being anti-Semitic or racist but the stigma and backlash destroys their lives or at least changes them for the worse. And the groups howling for blood are too powerful for an individual to resist or fight. That's all there is to say about it. So long as you're left wing yep It’s not about right and left for goodness sake. It’s about much more than that! I was saying if you're left wing you've got a chance to apologise and come back. No chance if you're right wing. I don't consider myself either left or right BTW. Yep those racist comments boris certainly crippled his career. Boris is not remotely right wing. He probably doesn't even put himself on the spectrum, but he certainly wouldn't say he was right wing.
Chris is on form today. Some more class A comedy.
Superb
Oh do come along even his biggest critics call him a shape shifter who doesn't believe in anything. Surely you've got a better example of a forgiven right winger?
He sure does like fattening his and his friends wallets. is that right wing ?"Famous leftie Chukka Umana who called for transparency from banks on their city salaries has just stated at JP Morgan on a rumoured half million a year... Although he won't confirm the figure lol | |||
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"I don’t really understand this claim of anti-semitism . As far as I can understand, saying you don’t support Israel because of its treatment of Palestine is a statement that brands you as being against a religion? Sometimes it feels that people are called out wrongly for being anti-Semitic or racist but the stigma and backlash destroys their lives or at least changes them for the worse. And the groups howling for blood are too powerful for an individual to resist or fight. That's all there is to say about it. So long as you're left wing yep It’s not about right and left for goodness sake. It’s about much more than that! I was saying if you're left wing you've got a chance to apologise and come back. No chance if you're right wing. I don't consider myself either left or right BTW. Yep those racist comments boris certainly crippled his career. Boris is not remotely right wing. He probably doesn't even put himself on the spectrum, but he certainly wouldn't say he was right wing.
Chris is on form today. Some more class A comedy.
Superb
Oh do come along even his biggest critics call him a shape shifter who doesn't believe in anything. Surely you've got a better example of a forgiven right winger?
He sure does like fattening his and his friends wallets. is that right wing ?"Yep. Profit before people. Siphoning public money into rich people's accounts. Normally they're more subtle about it. But the Tories know they can do what they want and people will keep voting them in regardless. | |||
"I don’t really understand this claim of anti-semitism . As far as I can understand, saying you don’t support Israel because of its treatment of Palestine is a statement that brands you as being against a religion? Sometimes it feels that people are called out wrongly for being anti-Semitic or racist but the stigma and backlash destroys their lives or at least changes them for the worse. And the groups howling for blood are too powerful for an individual to resist or fight. That's all there is to say about it. So long as you're left wing yep It’s not about right and left for goodness sake. It’s about much more than that! I was saying if you're left wing you've got a chance to apologise and come back. No chance if you're right wing. I don't consider myself either left or right BTW. Yep those racist comments boris certainly crippled his career. Boris is not remotely right wing. He probably doesn't even put himself on the spectrum, but he certainly wouldn't say he was right wing.
Chris is on form today. Some more class A comedy.
Superb
Oh do come along even his biggest critics call him a shape shifter who doesn't believe in anything. Surely you've got a better example of a forgiven right winger?
He sure does like fattening his and his friends wallets. is that right wing ?
Yep. Profit before people.
Siphoning public money into rich people's accounts. Normally they're more subtle about it. But the Tories know they can do what they want and people will keep voting them in regardless. "so fattening you wallets and your freinds is right wing that will include bill gates Elon musk Warren Buffett Richard Branson all dragons den I could go on lol | |||
"I don’t really understand this claim of anti-semitism . As far as I can understand, saying you don’t support Israel because of its treatment of Palestine is a statement that brands you as being against a religion? Sometimes it feels that people are called out wrongly for being anti-Semitic or racist but the stigma and backlash destroys their lives or at least changes them for the worse. And the groups howling for blood are too powerful for an individual to resist or fight. That's all there is to say about it. So long as you're left wing yep It’s not about right and left for goodness sake. It’s about much more than that! I was saying if you're left wing you've got a chance to apologise and come back. No chance if you're right wing. I don't consider myself either left or right BTW. Yep those racist comments boris certainly crippled his career. Boris is not remotely right wing. He probably doesn't even put himself on the spectrum, but he certainly wouldn't say he was right wing.
Chris is on form today. Some more class A comedy.
Superb
Oh do come along even his biggest critics call him a shape shifter who doesn't believe in anything. Surely you've got a better example of a forgiven right winger?
He sure does like fattening his and his friends wallets. is that right wing ?
Yep. Profit before people.
Siphoning public money into rich people's accounts. Normally they're more subtle about it. But the Tories know they can do what they want and people will keep voting them in regardless. so fattening you wallets and your freinds is right wing that will include bill gates Elon musk Warren Buffett Richard Branson all dragons den I could go on lol"You could argue that those people are right wing. Obviously there's more to it than that. But it's certainly the central tenant. All the other stuff, anti-immigration, anti-poor people etc are all tools of control, and although used primarily by the right wing, aren't inherently the point. | |||
"I don’t really understand this claim of anti-semitism . As far as I can understand, saying you don’t support Israel because of its treatment of Palestine is a statement that brands you as being against a religion? Sometimes it feels that people are called out wrongly for being anti-Semitic or racist but the stigma and backlash destroys their lives or at least changes them for the worse. And the groups howling for blood are too powerful for an individual to resist or fight. That's all there is to say about it. So long as you're left wing yep It’s not about right and left for goodness sake. It’s about much more than that! I was saying if you're left wing you've got a chance to apologise and come back. No chance if you're right wing. I don't consider myself either left or right BTW. Yep those racist comments boris certainly crippled his career. Boris is not remotely right wing. He probably doesn't even put himself on the spectrum, but he certainly wouldn't say he was right wing.
Chris is on form today. Some more class A comedy.
Superb
Oh do come along even his biggest critics call him a shape shifter who doesn't believe in anything. Surely you've got a better example of a forgiven right winger?
He sure does like fattening his and his friends wallets. is that right wing ?
Yep. Profit before people.
Siphoning public money into rich people's accounts. Normally they're more subtle about it. But the Tories know they can do what they want and people will keep voting them in regardless. so fattening you wallets and your freinds is right wing that will include bill gates Elon musk Warren Buffett Richard Branson all dragons den I could go on lol
You could argue that those people are right wing.
Obviously there's more to it than that. But it's certainly the central tenant. All the other stuff, anti-immigration, anti-poor people etc are all tools of control, and although used primarily by the right wing, aren't inherently the point."im fucked if I’m waching dragons den again lol just a bit of craic mate | |||
"I don’t really understand this claim of anti-semitism . As far as I can understand, saying you don’t support Israel because of its treatment of Palestine is a statement that brands you as being against a religion? Sometimes it feels that people are called out wrongly for being anti-Semitic or racist but the stigma and backlash destroys their lives or at least changes them for the worse. And the groups howling for blood are too powerful for an individual to resist or fight. That's all there is to say about it. So long as you're left wing yep It’s not about right and left for goodness sake. It’s about much more than that! I was saying if you're left wing you've got a chance to apologise and come back. No chance if you're right wing. I don't consider myself either left or right BTW. Yep those racist comments boris certainly crippled his career. Boris is not remotely right wing. He probably doesn't even put himself on the spectrum, but he certainly wouldn't say he was right wing.
Chris is on form today. Some more class A comedy.
Superb
Oh do come along even his biggest critics call him a shape shifter who doesn't believe in anything. Surely you've got a better example of a forgiven right winger?
He sure does like fattening his and his friends wallets. is that right wing ?
Yep. Profit before people.
Siphoning public money into rich people's accounts. Normally they're more subtle about it. But the Tories know they can do what they want and people will keep voting them in regardless. so fattening you wallets and your freinds is right wing that will include bill gates Elon musk Warren Buffett Richard Branson all dragons den I could go on lol"Making sure the rich stay right and widening the gap between rich and poor,doesnt feature heavily in socialist principle | |||
"I don’t really understand this claim of anti-semitism . As far as I can understand, saying you don’t support Israel because of its treatment of Palestine is a statement that brands you as being against a religion? Sometimes it feels that people are called out wrongly for being anti-Semitic or racist but the stigma and backlash destroys their lives or at least changes them for the worse. And the groups howling for blood are too powerful for an individual to resist or fight. That's all there is to say about it. So long as you're left wing yep It’s not about right and left for goodness sake. It’s about much more than that! I was saying if you're left wing you've got a chance to apologise and come back. No chance if you're right wing. I don't consider myself either left or right BTW. Yep those racist comments boris certainly crippled his career. Boris is not remotely right wing. He probably doesn't even put himself on the spectrum, but he certainly wouldn't say he was right wing.
Chris is on form today. Some more class A comedy.
Superb
Oh do come along even his biggest critics call him a shape shifter who doesn't believe in anything. Surely you've got a better example of a forgiven right winger?
He sure does like fattening his and his friends wallets. is that right wing ?
Yep. Profit before people.
Siphoning public money into rich people's accounts. Normally they're more subtle about it. But the Tories know they can do what they want and people will keep voting them in regardless. so fattening you wallets and your freinds is right wing that will include bill gates Elon musk Warren Buffett Richard Branson all dragons den I could go on lol
You could argue that those people are right wing.
Obviously there's more to it than that. But it's certainly the central tenant. All the other stuff, anti-immigration, anti-poor people etc are all tools of control, and although used primarily by the right wing, aren't inherently the point.im fucked if I’m waching dragons den again lol just a bit of craic mate "It's a pretty boring show anyway. Except the hot sauce guy episode. | |||
"I don’t really understand this claim of anti-semitism . As far as I can understand, saying you don’t support Israel because of its treatment of Palestine is a statement that brands you as being against a religion? Sometimes it feels that people are called out wrongly for being anti-Semitic or racist but the stigma and backlash destroys their lives or at least changes them for the worse. And the groups howling for blood are too powerful for an individual to resist or fight. That's all there is to say about it. So long as you're left wing yep It’s not about right and left for goodness sake. It’s about much more than that! I was saying if you're left wing you've got a chance to apologise and come back. No chance if you're right wing. I don't consider myself either left or right BTW. Yep those racist comments boris certainly crippled his career. Boris is not remotely right wing. He probably doesn't even put himself on the spectrum, but he certainly wouldn't say he was right wing.
Chris is on form today. Some more class A comedy.
Superb
Oh do come along even his biggest critics call him a shape shifter who doesn't believe in anything. Surely you've got a better example of a forgiven right winger?
He sure does like fattening his and his friends wallets. is that right wing ?
Yep. Profit before people.
Siphoning public money into rich people's accounts. Normally they're more subtle about it. But the Tories know they can do what they want and people will keep voting them in regardless. so fattening you wallets and your freinds is right wing that will include bill gates Elon musk Warren Buffett Richard Branson all dragons den I could go on lol
You could argue that those people are right wing.
Obviously there's more to it than that. But it's certainly the central tenant. All the other stuff, anti-immigration, anti-poor people etc are all tools of control, and although used primarily by the right wing, aren't inherently the point.im fucked if I’m waching dragons den again lol just a bit of craic mate
It's a pretty boring show anyway. Except the hot sauce guy episode."debra meeding can’t be right wing she wears the queens cast of clothes the scruffy mare lol | |||
"Been a bit of a storm about him. He was invited to speak at oxford before certain groups intervened pointing out he Is on fact a massive racist and his application has been withdrawn. Whilst I have seen a few of his films I dont know his full history so in mot really sure what he has done. Someone on Twitter has also called for him to be investigated for child abuse as a boy was caned in his film kes. Strange days. I thought the left didn't have people 'cancelled'? Where's the line between not platforming racists and cancelling people? Thanks. So you will admit that the left side also have a racism problem? Being that he's a Corbyn supporter and all. Huh? I'm not admitting anything. I'm interested in cancel culture and people who accuse others of cancel culture. Also. I'm not "left". " People read cancel culture and assume that someone has to be wiped from all existence for it to be the case. Have a look at what's happened to Gina carano. Better yet, have a look at the calls for Jk Rowling to lose her publishers and be pulled off twitter, the death threats etc. There is a culture coming from the left (has been there for years) ,that's been supported in social media traditional media and politics that enables this idea that if someone doesn't say what you want to hear or offends you or your group (identity politics), that you can put pressure on companies to drop them, whether that be social media, their job, their sponsors, agents etc. And everytime it happens the margin for tolerance gets smaller and smaller. I'm sure we have spoken about Jonathan pie calling this all out. | |||
"Been a bit of a storm about him. He was invited to speak at oxford before certain groups intervened pointing out he Is on fact a massive racist and his application has been withdrawn. Whilst I have seen a few of his films I dont know his full history so in mot really sure what he has done. Someone on Twitter has also called for him to be investigated for child abuse as a boy was caned in his film kes. Strange days. I thought the left didn't have people 'cancelled'? Where's the line between not platforming racists and cancelling people? Thanks. So you will admit that the left side also have a racism problem? Being that he's a Corbyn supporter and all. Huh? I'm not admitting anything. I'm interested in cancel culture and people who accuse others of cancel culture. Also. I'm not "left". People read cancel culture and assume that someone has to be wiped from all existence for it to be the case. Have a look at what's happened to Gina carano. Better yet, have a look at the calls for Jk Rowling to lose her publishers and be pulled off twitter, the death threats etc. There is a culture coming from the left (has been there for years) ,that's been supported in social media traditional media and politics that enables this idea that if someone doesn't say what you want to hear or offends you or your group (identity politics), that you can put pressure on companies to drop them, whether that be social media, their job, their sponsors, agents etc. And everytime it happens the margin for tolerance gets smaller and smaller. I'm sure we have spoken about Jonathan pie calling this all out. " Doxing too.  | |||
"Been a bit of a storm about him. He was invited to speak at oxford before certain groups intervened pointing out he Is on fact a massive racist and his application has been withdrawn. Whilst I have seen a few of his films I dont know his full history so in mot really sure what he has done. Someone on Twitter has also called for him to be investigated for child abuse as a boy was caned in his film kes. Strange days. I thought the left didn't have people 'cancelled'? Where's the line between not platforming racists and cancelling people? Thanks. So you will admit that the left side also have a racism problem? Being that he's a Corbyn supporter and all. Huh? I'm not admitting anything. I'm interested in cancel culture and people who accuse others of cancel culture. Also. I'm not "left". People read cancel culture and assume that someone has to be wiped from all existence for it to be the case. Have a look at what's happened to Gina carano. Better yet, have a look at the calls for Jk Rowling to lose her publishers and be pulled off twitter, the death threats etc. There is a culture coming from the left (has been there for years) ,that's been supported in social media traditional media and politics that enables this idea that if someone doesn't say what you want to hear or offends you or your group (identity politics), that you can put pressure on companies to drop them, whether that be social media, their job, their sponsors, agents etc. And everytime it happens the margin for tolerance gets smaller and smaller. I'm sure we have spoken about Jonathan pie calling this all out. " You really should read up about why people are upset with JK Rowling. As you keep using her. The problem of cancel culture is minor compared to the problem of people spreading hate. Yet it's very easy for Piers Morgan, Donald Trump etc to call "cancel culture" every five minutes (when these two are actually masters at cancelling people). I'm not saying it doesn't happen. But it's over egged. Plus we all have the right to express our thoughts. Free speech isn't only for people who spout hate. It's for normal people too. I will read about Gina Carano. As I don't know this case. | |||
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"Been a bit of a storm about him. He was invited to speak at oxford before certain groups intervened pointing out he Is on fact a massive racist and his application has been withdrawn. Whilst I have seen a few of his films I dont know his full history so in mot really sure what he has done. Someone on Twitter has also called for him to be investigated for child abuse as a boy was caned in his film kes. Strange days. I thought the left didn't have people 'cancelled'? Where's the line between not platforming racists and cancelling people? Thanks. So you will admit that the left side also have a racism problem? Being that he's a Corbyn supporter and all. Huh? I'm not admitting anything. I'm interested in cancel culture and people who accuse others of cancel culture. Also. I'm not "left". People read cancel culture and assume that someone has to be wiped from all existence for it to be the case. Have a look at what's happened to Gina carano. Better yet, have a look at the calls for Jk Rowling to lose her publishers and be pulled off twitter, the death threats etc. There is a culture coming from the left (has been there for years) ,that's been supported in social media traditional media and politics that enables this idea that if someone doesn't say what you want to hear or offends you or your group (identity politics), that you can put pressure on companies to drop them, whether that be social media, their job, their sponsors, agents etc. And everytime it happens the margin for tolerance gets smaller and smaller. I'm sure we have spoken about Jonathan pie calling this all out. You really should read up about why people are upset with JK Rowling. As you keep using her. The problem of cancel culture is minor compared to the problem of people spreading hate. Yet it's very easy for Piers Morgan, Donald Trump etc to call "cancel culture" every five minutes (when these two are actually masters at cancelling people). I'm not saying it doesn't happen. But it's over egged. Plus we all have the right to express our thoughts. Free speech isn't only for people who spout hate. It's for normal people too. I will read about Gina Carano. As I don't know this case. " I disagree that it is minor, having the power to move the goalposts on what is offensive and not based on the ideals off the group you are part of and having companies desperately trying to follow suit to protect their public image directly impacts freedom of speech. And its a weapon that is wielded far too often. And yes, I completely agree with you on your last point, free speech is for everyone. But one side of the sphere labels anything they don't agree or that doesn't resonate with their group identity with personally as hate speech and lumps that in with genuine hate speech. Even genuine criticism or just simple queries, which is where genuine antisemitism, islamophobia, homophobia, transphobia, racism etc get blurred into the same realm as simple criticism or debate.... | |||
"Why’s he a racist? Any firm evidence He said antisemitism was an understandable reaction to Israel's actions. Labour dropped him for antisemitism quotes. Ah ok an anti semite. Just been on a Google. should be investigated for child abuse because a kid was caned in his film in the 70s wtf comedy gold lol" Has there been a divide line drawn somewhere lol the olympic Japan guy, 80 yrs old says women talk too much, don't all old guys say that sort of thing lol so he has to resign.... is it bullying old people or progressive thinking? It's certainly not very inclusive lol  | |||
"Been a bit of a storm about him. He was invited to speak at oxford before certain groups intervened pointing out he Is on fact a massive racist and his application has been withdrawn. Whilst I have seen a few of his films I dont know his full history so in mot really sure what he has done. Someone on Twitter has also called for him to be investigated for child abuse as a boy was caned in his film kes. Strange days. I thought the left didn't have people 'cancelled'? Where's the line between not platforming racists and cancelling people? Thanks. So you will admit that the left side also have a racism problem? Being that he's a Corbyn supporter and all. Huh? I'm not admitting anything. I'm interested in cancel culture and people who accuse others of cancel culture. Also. I'm not "left". People read cancel culture and assume that someone has to be wiped from all existence for it to be the case. Have a look at what's happened to Gina carano. Better yet, have a look at the calls for Jk Rowling to lose her publishers and be pulled off twitter, the death threats etc. There is a culture coming from the left (has been there for years) ,that's been supported in social media traditional media and politics that enables this idea that if someone doesn't say what you want to hear or offends you or your group (identity politics), that you can put pressure on companies to drop them, whether that be social media, their job, their sponsors, agents etc. And everytime it happens the margin for tolerance gets smaller and smaller. I'm sure we have spoken about Jonathan pie calling this all out. You really should read up about why people are upset with JK Rowling. As you keep using her. The problem of cancel culture is minor compared to the problem of people spreading hate. Yet it's very easy for Piers Morgan, Donald Trump etc to call "cancel culture" every five minutes (when these two are actually masters at cancelling people). I'm not saying it doesn't happen. But it's over egged. Plus we all have the right to express our thoughts. Free speech isn't only for people who spout hate. It's for normal people too. I will read about Gina Carano. As I don't know this case. I disagree that it is minor, having the power to move the goalposts on what is offensive and not based on the ideals off the group you are part of and having companies desperately trying to follow suit to protect their public image directly impacts freedom of speech. And its a weapon that is wielded far too often. And yes, I completely agree with you on your last point, free speech is for everyone. But one side of the sphere labels anything they don't agree or that doesn't resonate with their group identity with personally as hate speech and lumps that in with genuine hate speech. Even genuine criticism or just simple queries, which is where genuine antisemitism, islamophobia, homophobia, transphobia, racism etc get blurred into the same realm as simple criticism or debate.... " Exactly | |||
"Been a bit of a storm about him. He was invited to speak at oxford before certain groups intervened pointing out he Is on fact a massive racist and his application has been withdrawn. Whilst I have seen a few of his films I dont know his full history so in mot really sure what he has done. Someone on Twitter has also called for him to be investigated for child abuse as a boy was caned in his film kes. Strange days. I thought the left didn't have people 'cancelled'? Where's the line between not platforming racists and cancelling people? Thanks. So you will admit that the left side also have a racism problem? Being that he's a Corbyn supporter and all. Huh? I'm not admitting anything. I'm interested in cancel culture and people who accuse others of cancel culture. Also. I'm not "left". People read cancel culture and assume that someone has to be wiped from all existence for it to be the case. Have a look at what's happened to Gina carano. Better yet, have a look at the calls for Jk Rowling to lose her publishers and be pulled off twitter, the death threats etc. There is a culture coming from the left (has been there for years) ,that's been supported in social media traditional media and politics that enables this idea that if someone doesn't say what you want to hear or offends you or your group (identity politics), that you can put pressure on companies to drop them, whether that be social media, their job, their sponsors, agents etc. And everytime it happens the margin for tolerance gets smaller and smaller. I'm sure we have spoken about Jonathan pie calling this all out. You really should read up about why people are upset with JK Rowling. As you keep using her. The problem of cancel culture is minor compared to the problem of people spreading hate. Yet it's very easy for Piers Morgan, Donald Trump etc to call "cancel culture" every five minutes (when these two are actually masters at cancelling people). I'm not saying it doesn't happen. But it's over egged. Plus we all have the right to express our thoughts. Free speech isn't only for people who spout hate. It's for normal people too. I will read about Gina Carano. As I don't know this case. I disagree that it is minor, having the power to move the goalposts on what is offensive and not based on the ideals off the group you are part of and having companies desperately trying to follow suit to protect their public image directly impacts freedom of speech. And its a weapon that is wielded far too often. And yes, I completely agree with you on your last point, free speech is for everyone. But one side of the sphere labels anything they don't agree or that doesn't resonate with their group identity with personally as hate speech and lumps that in with genuine hate speech. Even genuine criticism or just simple queries, which is where genuine antisemitism, islamophobia, homophobia, transphobia, racism etc get blurred into the same realm as simple criticism or debate.... " I mean, seems to be quite often that people are say horrifically transphobic things. Like JK Rowling, then when people call her out, everyone screams "cancel culture". Personally I don't agree with anything beyond personal boycotting of her movies and what not, for people who choose to do that. And for it to be discussed openly. I support her right to have and express her abhorrent opinions. It's up to her publishers and the people she works with if they want to keep her on or not. Writing to them and telling them to drop her is rediculous. I don't know if anyone did, but as an example. | |||
"Been a bit of a storm about him. He was invited to speak at oxford before certain groups intervened pointing out he Is on fact a massive racist and his application has been withdrawn. Whilst I have seen a few of his films I dont know his full history so in mot really sure what he has done. Someone on Twitter has also called for him to be investigated for child abuse as a boy was caned in his film kes. Strange days. I thought the left didn't have people 'cancelled'? Where's the line between not platforming racists and cancelling people? Thanks. So you will admit that the left side also have a racism problem? Being that he's a Corbyn supporter and all. Huh? I'm not admitting anything. I'm interested in cancel culture and people who accuse others of cancel culture. Also. I'm not "left". People read cancel culture and assume that someone has to be wiped from all existence for it to be the case. Have a look at what's happened to Gina carano. Better yet, have a look at the calls for Jk Rowling to lose her publishers and be pulled off twitter, the death threats etc. There is a culture coming from the left (has been there for years) ,that's been supported in social media traditional media and politics that enables this idea that if someone doesn't say what you want to hear or offends you or your group (identity politics), that you can put pressure on companies to drop them, whether that be social media, their job, their sponsors, agents etc. And everytime it happens the margin for tolerance gets smaller and smaller. I'm sure we have spoken about Jonathan pie calling this all out. You really should read up about why people are upset with JK Rowling. As you keep using her. The problem of cancel culture is minor compared to the problem of people spreading hate. Yet it's very easy for Piers Morgan, Donald Trump etc to call "cancel culture" every five minutes (when these two are actually masters at cancelling people). I'm not saying it doesn't happen. But it's over egged. Plus we all have the right to express our thoughts. Free speech isn't only for people who spout hate. It's for normal people too. I will read about Gina Carano. As I don't know this case. I disagree that it is minor, having the power to move the goalposts on what is offensive and not based on the ideals off the group you are part of and having companies desperately trying to follow suit to protect their public image directly impacts freedom of speech. And its a weapon that is wielded far too often. And yes, I completely agree with you on your last point, free speech is for everyone. But one side of the sphere labels anything they don't agree or that doesn't resonate with their group identity with personally as hate speech and lumps that in with genuine hate speech. Even genuine criticism or just simple queries, which is where genuine antisemitism, islamophobia, homophobia, transphobia, racism etc get blurred into the same realm as simple criticism or debate.... I mean, seems to be quite often that people are say horrifically transphobic things. Like JK Rowling, then when people call her out, everyone screams "cancel culture". Personally I don't agree with anything beyond personal boycotting of her movies and what not, for people who choose to do that. And for it to be discussed openly. I support her right to have and express her abhorrent opinions. It's up to her publishers and the people she works with if they want to keep her on or not. Writing to them and telling them to drop her is rediculous. I don't know if anyone did, but as an example. " J.K. Rowling @jk_rowling If sex isn’t real, there’s no same-sex attraction. If sex isn’t real, the lived reality of women globally is erased. I know and love trans people, but erasing the concept of sex removes the ability of many to meaningfully discuss their lives. It isn’t hate to speak the truth. These comments? or the one about menstruation ? I don't hate her, I'd question her truth, I never really thought boy girl I just thought beautiful person.. ugly person.... I don't mean looks. Think some of her thinking is dated. But she is right not everyone can menstrate lol would I boycott her, I don't need to as I hate Harry Potter franchise! I think the majority ultimately decide how the world rolls. | |||
"I find it strange how any critiscm of isreal now means you are an anti semite. " exactly ..its called the holocaust industry . Isreal defects critism for its atrocities by mobilising sympathy for the past. Of course critics of isreal does not constitute anti semetism. | |||
"Been a bit of a storm about him. He was invited to speak at oxford before certain groups intervened pointing out he Is on fact a massive racist and his application has been withdrawn. Whilst I have seen a few of his films I dont know his full history so in mot really sure what he has done. Someone on Twitter has also called for him to be investigated for child abuse as a boy was caned in his film kes. Strange days. I thought the left didn't have people 'cancelled'? Where's the line between not platforming racists and cancelling people? Thanks. So you will admit that the left side also have a racism problem? Being that he's a Corbyn supporter and all. Huh? I'm not admitting anything. I'm interested in cancel culture and people who accuse others of cancel culture. Also. I'm not "left". People read cancel culture and assume that someone has to be wiped from all existence for it to be the case. Have a look at what's happened to Gina carano. Better yet, have a look at the calls for Jk Rowling to lose her publishers and be pulled off twitter, the death threats etc. There is a culture coming from the left (has been there for years) ,that's been supported in social media traditional media and politics that enables this idea that if someone doesn't say what you want to hear or offends you or your group (identity politics), that you can put pressure on companies to drop them, whether that be social media, their job, their sponsors, agents etc. And everytime it happens the margin for tolerance gets smaller and smaller. I'm sure we have spoken about Jonathan pie calling this all out. You really should read up about why people are upset with JK Rowling. As you keep using her. The problem of cancel culture is minor compared to the problem of people spreading hate. Yet it's very easy for Piers Morgan, Donald Trump etc to call "cancel culture" every five minutes (when these two are actually masters at cancelling people). I'm not saying it doesn't happen. But it's over egged. Plus we all have the right to express our thoughts. Free speech isn't only for people who spout hate. It's for normal people too. I will read about Gina Carano. As I don't know this case. I disagree that it is minor, having the power to move the goalposts on what is offensive and not based on the ideals off the group you are part of and having companies desperately trying to follow suit to protect their public image directly impacts freedom of speech. And its a weapon that is wielded far too often. And yes, I completely agree with you on your last point, free speech is for everyone. But one side of the sphere labels anything they don't agree or that doesn't resonate with their group identity with personally as hate speech and lumps that in with genuine hate speech. Even genuine criticism or just simple queries, which is where genuine antisemitism, islamophobia, homophobia, transphobia, racism etc get blurred into the same realm as simple criticism or debate.... I mean, seems to be quite often that people are say horrifically transphobic things. Like JK Rowling, then when people call her out, everyone screams "cancel culture". Personally I don't agree with anything beyond personal boycotting of her movies and what not, for people who choose to do that. And for it to be discussed openly. I support her right to have and express her abhorrent opinions. It's up to her publishers and the people she works with if they want to keep her on or not. Writing to them and telling them to drop her is rediculous. I don't know if anyone did, but as an example. J.K. Rowling @jk_rowling If sex isn’t real, there’s no same-sex attraction. If sex isn’t real, the lived reality of women globally is erased. I know and love trans people, but erasing the concept of sex removes the ability of many to meaningfully discuss their lives. It isn’t hate to speak the truth. These comments? or the one about menstruation ? I don't hate her, I'd question her truth, I never really thought boy girl I just thought beautiful person.. ugly person.... I don't mean looks. Think some of her thinking is dated. But she is right not everyone can menstrate lol would I boycott her, I don't need to as I hate Harry Potter franchise! I think the majority ultimately decide how the world rolls. "Her confusion between "sex" and "gender" is but the tip of the iceberg. She's written extensively about her transphobia. | |||
"Been a bit of a storm about him. He was invited to speak at oxford before certain groups intervened pointing out he Is on fact a massive racist and his application has been withdrawn. Whilst I have seen a few of his films I dont know his full history so in mot really sure what he has done. Someone on Twitter has also called for him to be investigated for child abuse as a boy was caned in his film kes. Strange days. I thought the left didn't have people 'cancelled'? Where's the line between not platforming racists and cancelling people? Thanks. So you will admit that the left side also have a racism problem? Being that he's a Corbyn supporter and all. Huh? I'm not admitting anything. I'm interested in cancel culture and people who accuse others of cancel culture. Also. I'm not "left". People read cancel culture and assume that someone has to be wiped from all existence for it to be the case. Have a look at what's happened to Gina carano. Better yet, have a look at the calls for Jk Rowling to lose her publishers and be pulled off twitter, the death threats etc. There is a culture coming from the left (has been there for years) ,that's been supported in social media traditional media and politics that enables this idea that if someone doesn't say what you want to hear or offends you or your group (identity politics), that you can put pressure on companies to drop them, whether that be social media, their job, their sponsors, agents etc. And everytime it happens the margin for tolerance gets smaller and smaller. I'm sure we have spoken about Jonathan pie calling this all out. You really should read up about why people are upset with JK Rowling. As you keep using her. The problem of cancel culture is minor compared to the problem of people spreading hate. Yet it's very easy for Piers Morgan, Donald Trump etc to call "cancel culture" every five minutes (when these two are actually masters at cancelling people). I'm not saying it doesn't happen. But it's over egged. Plus we all have the right to express our thoughts. Free speech isn't only for people who spout hate. It's for normal people too. I will read about Gina Carano. As I don't know this case. I disagree that it is minor, having the power to move the goalposts on what is offensive and not based on the ideals off the group you are part of and having companies desperately trying to follow suit to protect their public image directly impacts freedom of speech. And its a weapon that is wielded far too often. And yes, I completely agree with you on your last point, free speech is for everyone. But one side of the sphere labels anything they don't agree or that doesn't resonate with their group identity with personally as hate speech and lumps that in with genuine hate speech. Even genuine criticism or just simple queries, which is where genuine antisemitism, islamophobia, homophobia, transphobia, racism etc get blurred into the same realm as simple criticism or debate.... I mean, seems to be quite often that people are say horrifically transphobic things. Like JK Rowling, then when people call her out, everyone screams "cancel culture". Personally I don't agree with anything beyond personal boycotting of her movies and what not, for people who choose to do that. And for it to be discussed openly. I support her right to have and express her abhorrent opinions. It's up to her publishers and the people she works with if they want to keep her on or not. Writing to them and telling them to drop her is rediculous. I don't know if anyone did, but as an example. J.K. Rowling @jk_rowling If sex isn’t real, there’s no same-sex attraction. If sex isn’t real, the lived reality of women globally is erased. I know and love trans people, but erasing the concept of sex removes the ability of many to meaningfully discuss their lives. It isn’t hate to speak the truth. These comments? or the one about menstruation ? I don't hate her, I'd question her truth, I never really thought boy girl I just thought beautiful person.. ugly person.... I don't mean looks. Think some of her thinking is dated. But she is right not everyone can menstrate lol would I boycott her, I don't need to as I hate Harry Potter franchise! I think the majority ultimately decide how the world rolls.
Her confusion between "sex" and "gender" is but the tip of the iceberg. She's written extensively about her transphobia."Think we're on same page, everyone should get to talk so it can be tackled.. I wonder how big her wand is lol ill take a quick look but not using too much of my trans time! | |||
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"Ken Loach left when blair was in charge, he came back when corbyn came in, its fitting that he is out because starmer is in. It’s the 80’s again like when kinnock was in, he fought the militants and won. Labour needs a good purge to get them back to power." Agreed. They should purge away. | |||
"Ken Loach left when blair was in charge, he came back when corbyn came in, its fitting that he is out because starmer is in. It’s the 80’s again like when kinnock was in, he fought the militants and won. Labour needs a good purge to get them back to power." | |||
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